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Speaker 4: We don't see the coinage behind us. He's right there
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Speaker 3: star of the show, Mickey Spagnola is now I ever Sinden.
Speaker 3: I'm decked out in black a lot because this is
Speaker 3: my favorite hoodie and I wear it all the time.
Speaker 3: There's a reason Mickey has.
Speaker 5: This is my day after game dress, which is like
Speaker 5: every day every week.
Speaker 6: What a week? That's all I got to say. What
Speaker 6: a week, starting with the loss, previous loss, the commotion
Speaker 6: after the game, just one thing after another after another
Speaker 6: after another, and it made me think that we should
Speaker 6: have known we were in for something really strange this
Speaker 6: year when we're in training camp and one of the
Speaker 6: players room catch on fire. We took like six or
Speaker 6: seven hours to get to Vegas for a preseason game,
Speaker 6: and just all the weird stuff that continued.
Speaker 4: The family get into the accident right in San Francisco.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I almost forgot that one.
Speaker 2: Crazy man.
Speaker 6: Sound nowhere, and then Monday happens and it's like.
Speaker 3: Sheet metal falls from the raft, metal falling from the raft.
Speaker 6: Did you have to dodge it?
Speaker 3: I was at the It was at the opposite end
Speaker 3: of the field from where our live shots were.
Speaker 6: So could you see it?
Speaker 3: I could not know. Okay, no, it was the way
Speaker 3: on the other end of the field. Christie Scale saw it.
Speaker 6: The people that saw it, yeah they so no.
Speaker 2: One got hit, No one got no thank you boy.
Speaker 6: But of course it fell right next to the ESPN's
Speaker 6: stage that they set up on the sideline.
Speaker 2: With Stephen there.
Speaker 4: Dang, but Marcus Spears wasn't.
Speaker 3: Stephen as a friend of the show he's been on
Speaker 3: the show before.
Speaker 2: He's a friend of Jerry Jones. He's not a friend
Speaker 2: of the show.
Speaker 3: Well, he walked into this mix shots.
Speaker 2: Only because you know, I had one, He had one
Speaker 2: coming from me. That's the only reason we got.
Speaker 6: We got asked about that Saturday Sunday afternoon.
Speaker 3: Yes, do not Q and A Okay, one of our
Speaker 3: loyal mix shot fans.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he brought it up. If everyone saw it, right,
Speaker 2: I'm sure everyone saw this at the tail end of
Speaker 2: the right.
Speaker 3: Okay, So Mickey, explain this one.
Speaker 6: Hmmm, where do you start? Here's where I started. It
Speaker 6: could have been and here we go. It could have
Speaker 6: been have been Yeah, four sixteen left in the third quarter,
Speaker 6: and it could have been twenty to thirteen as bad
Speaker 6: as things had been going, Joe Mixon running all over
Speaker 6: the Cowboys. Had they kept the sixty four yard field
Speaker 6: goal or attempted one on fourth and two at the eight,
Speaker 6: it would have been twenty the thirteen game on. But no,
Speaker 6: And it speaks to I think the desperation they have
Speaker 6: to score a touchdown that you go for it and
Speaker 6: you don't get the touchdown, and then what was it
Speaker 6: a possession or two later?
Speaker 2: You get the.
Speaker 6: Fumble, recovery, fumble, scoop and score touchdown.
Speaker 7: Well, there was a scoop and attempt to Goha to advance,
Speaker 7: and then it's twenty seven to ten and basically ball
Speaker 7: games over.
Speaker 6: Just weird stuff continues to happen.
Speaker 2: Well, it's not really weird as much as it's just incompetence.
Speaker 6: Well, that's just because the pressure on the quarterback was
Speaker 6: there the entire game. You had to play it with, which,
Speaker 6: by the way, I don't if there was a bright spot.
Speaker 6: You signed a guy off the practice squad to the
Speaker 6: fifty three man roster and said, Josh Butler, you're starting
Speaker 6: at left corner. I thought he played well, but that's
Speaker 6: the situation they were in at cornerback, not so much
Speaker 6: mcwamu in the slot. I'm sorry to tell you. It's
Speaker 6: it's inexplicable the things that keep happening to this team.
Speaker 6: And maybe it happens to other people that are good
Speaker 6: and they can overcome these little deals. But this team's
Speaker 6: not good enough to overcome that kind of stuff. Well,
Speaker 6: I can tell you you realize, I'm sorry, you realize
Speaker 6: that the Texans only gained three more yards than the Cowboys. Three.
Speaker 6: Cooper rushed through for three fifty four yards.
Speaker 2: Wow, did not know that it was.
Speaker 6: It was nearly one hundred, sixty times fifty five.
Speaker 3: He got sacked five times. He tried to throw it
Speaker 3: sixty times.
Speaker 2: That was that much accumulation, Geordige, I did not know that.
Speaker 2: I did not know.
Speaker 6: He threw for a hundred almost one hundred yards more
Speaker 6: than than Strout. Now it took we had to he
Speaker 6: had yeah, yeah, because they couldn't run the ball.
Speaker 3: That's still just six point four yards in attempt, which
Speaker 3: is below par.
Speaker 4: I'll never go for attempt as much as I go
Speaker 4: for completions. I always go for average yards per completion
Speaker 4: because there are times when your accuracy may not be there.
Speaker 4: But the quality, you know, the quality of those catches,
Speaker 4: the quality of those passes.
Speaker 2: I always go for completions. Average completion yards.
Speaker 6: What was almost twelve per completion?
Speaker 2: That's what I like to look at, because you know,
Speaker 2: you can go that's a higher number. Oh yeah, that's
Speaker 2: why I'm listening. Come on, you know, I'm an optimist.
Speaker 2: I don't get to be where I am without I'm
Speaker 2: supposed to get to be.
Speaker 3: Here's let's just throw out those incompletions. Let's look at
Speaker 3: the completion.
Speaker 4: Don't count in completions, don't count as if you catch
Speaker 4: turping on a ninety yard or whatever. The he I
Speaker 4: thought about fags the whole time, like, there's this boy
Speaker 4: he finally got what he was looking for?
Speaker 3: Is that you pick to click?
Speaker 6: Uh? No, No, I don't think it was.
Speaker 3: He went sixty four yards for touchdown, shot out of
Speaker 3: a cannon, and my pick to click kicked a sixty
Speaker 3: four yard field goal.
Speaker 6: And by the way, after you brought all that up,
Speaker 6: what I made my prediction Monday morning? I said, he's
Speaker 6: gonna kick five field goals in honor of Chris Bone. Yeah,
Speaker 6: and guess what he should have had three and counting
Speaker 6: right if the game was still on the line. Well,
Speaker 6: he can't lift out a forty yard er? How does
Speaker 6: that happen?
Speaker 3: Turn everyone here where you listen to the ESPN broadcast,
Speaker 3: I said before he missed it, that he's missing this
Speaker 3: field goal. Because they were raving about put the graphic
Speaker 3: up saying that he's thirty four out of thirty.
Speaker 2: Everyone wanted to take credit for that credit.
Speaker 3: This was before it ever happened. I said, well, he's
Speaker 3: they better not kick a field goal now because he's
Speaker 3: not making this one.
Speaker 2: And sure enough, even the broadcast booth was like, well,
Speaker 2: you know he hits the up.
Speaker 3: They knew what they were doing. Akman was a part
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 2: No, they immediately like wash their hands like, no, no,
Speaker 2: that's not on me, that's not on me. He and Troy,
Speaker 2: they were both.
Speaker 3: That was the producer. The producer did that. He's a
Speaker 3: huge Deections fan.
Speaker 4: But when you look at the turping, I remember Troy
Speaker 4: but a few weeks ago talked about our wide receivers
Speaker 4: and how they are not getting off the ball fast enough.
Speaker 4: That is the best move I've ever seen any of
Speaker 4: our wide receivers make off the line of scrimmage. When
Speaker 4: you talk about that slant, every slant I've seen quick slant,
Speaker 4: the guys are just kind of going up in the inside.
Speaker 4: They're pressed against the defender hoping that they would have
Speaker 4: room enough for the quarterback to throw it inside. And
Speaker 4: they never create separation. And that's what Troy Hagmann talked about.
Speaker 4: When you saw turpins move. He put a lot into
Speaker 4: that move, which is what you're supposed to do with
Speaker 4: every route.
Speaker 2: That you run.
Speaker 4: He didn't go Okay, I'm just gonna run my way
Speaker 4: through here and it just expect the timing to be there. No,
Speaker 4: this man made one of the best moves I've seen
Speaker 4: any of our receivers make in the last two years
Speaker 4: off the line of scrimmage against a pretty decent defensive.
Speaker 6: Back, especially when you can run twenty two point three.
Speaker 2: Miles an hour the fastest.
Speaker 6: In nine years, they said, in ninety nine years, hurts
Speaker 6: the fastest.
Speaker 3: That's just by a Cowboys ball carrier since twenty sixteen.
Speaker 2: So maybe that's what they've met cowboy in nine years. Yeah.
Speaker 6: When when when I saw him catch it, I said,
Speaker 6: he's gone. They ain't catching him.
Speaker 4: But you have to create that face from off the
Speaker 4: line of scrimmage, and we are not doing that as receivers.
Speaker 2: We are not creating separations. Do you see the separation?
Speaker 4: He was already about three yards he was by the
Speaker 4: time he cut back inside, he was already three yards
Speaker 4: in front of the guy.
Speaker 2: Yep. And that's how you create plays. That's how you
Speaker 2: make plays. We had to see. That's to me, that's
Speaker 2: the best play we've got we've had all year long.
Speaker 3: Beat Jeffrey Okuda out of South Grand Prairie High School,
Speaker 3: who once upon a time was like the third pick
Speaker 3: of the draft out of the house. See that, which,
Speaker 3: by the way, beat him good the first touchdown at
Speaker 3: home since Baltimore, and he scored that one turping.
Speaker 4: And if I'm not mistaken, we had no passes over
Speaker 4: god so many yards.
Speaker 2: I think it was some embarrassing number.
Speaker 4: I don't think we had completed the pass by a
Speaker 4: wide receiver to a wide receiver to a wide receiver.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 4: And how long it was a wild I dare say
Speaker 4: some of my numbers get mixed up. I'm listening to
Speaker 4: it while I'm fussing with my son during the process
Speaker 4: of the game.
Speaker 2: But I thought they said something like.
Speaker 4: We averaged like ten yards to our wide receivers completions
Speaker 4: of ten yards to our wide receivers.
Speaker 6: Well, if you want to know for sure, in the
Speaker 6: Eagles game, the long completion was nineteen yards. In the
Speaker 6: Falcons game, the long was twenty two yards. No, I'm sorry,
Speaker 6: that's a rushing The long was twenty seven yards to
Speaker 6: Jake Ferguson.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm a wide receiver, so the wide.
Speaker 6: Receivers the long that game was Oh Cavante Turpin twenty
Speaker 6: two yards. Again, maybe he should play more. Yeah, San Francisco,
Speaker 6: the long reception was twenty nine yards CD lamb. Detroit
Speaker 6: twenty seven yards CD lamb.
Speaker 2: How was see these numbers last night?
Speaker 6: Eight for ninety three, I believe it was.
Speaker 3: Let me see, yes, eight for ninety three.
Speaker 6: Averaged eleven point six A catch made, a couple of
Speaker 6: spectacular catches. Oh, by the way, so I didn't get
Speaker 6: a chance to go back and look at this. Maybe
Speaker 6: you guys did the interception when Russia has thrown the
Speaker 6: timing route to CD on the slant and the guy
Speaker 6: runs right into.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the pire.
Speaker 6: What happened.
Speaker 2: It's a pre.
Speaker 6: And the official in the booth I heard that, but
Speaker 6: I didn't get to know.
Speaker 2: You heard it.
Speaker 3: What he's saying.
Speaker 6: He said, he said the contact was within five yards.
Speaker 2: He said it was.
Speaker 3: He said it was borderline, yeah, and could have been
Speaker 3: called I think. But the ball was in the air
Speaker 3: and maybe to the point of should have been called.
Speaker 3: If it was in the air, then it.
Speaker 6: And then the next possession they had and some boys
Speaker 6: got called for illegal.
Speaker 3: Count and maybe Buck I don't remember, I guess said
Speaker 3: that the initially before he saw the replay said they're
Speaker 3: not on the same page. And so you see Cooper
Speaker 3: with his hands outstretched. So people are thinking he's upset
Speaker 3: with CD. No, he didn't get the call. Yes exactly.
Speaker 6: The guy just slammed them.
Speaker 2: And the ball was thrown. I don't know what they want.
Speaker 6: It was a timy.
Speaker 4: What else do you want? I don't know what else
Speaker 4: you want. It's like the referees like, we missed that
Speaker 4: with us.
Speaker 6: It should have been like down on the goal line
Speaker 6: when they threw five flags. Oh, big time, let me
Speaker 6: throw my flag.
Speaker 4: To everyone wants to Hey he threw his, I gotta
Speaker 4: thrown my hey. Hey wait wait, I got a flag too.
Speaker 6: Let me you get off set pedal when you get
Speaker 6: four and they get one.
Speaker 3: That oh man, And and the guy didn't.
Speaker 6: Know the rule once again lighting up for.
Speaker 2: The kickoff, and they did.
Speaker 3: They picked up. They picked it up.
Speaker 6: Because the head referee had to go explain to the
Speaker 6: GUYLA guy's making thousands of dollars and he doesn't know
Speaker 6: the rules.
Speaker 2: And this is a new rule. So they went over this. Yes,
Speaker 2: what's the word ad nauseum? Is that one?
Speaker 6: Very good?
Speaker 2: I like it? Yeah, come on, so kind of up
Speaker 2: the game to.
Speaker 6: You think they're going to come up with a new drill.
Speaker 6: You know they do a drill for like the DBS
Speaker 6: or whatever. When they do some of the individual drills
Speaker 6: where they roll the ball out and you practice running
Speaker 6: and picking it up. You're recovering a fumble. They're going
Speaker 6: to have one now for the offensive lineman to dive
Speaker 6: on it, not try to they should.
Speaker 3: I mean we had we had it in curving y
Speaker 3: M c A. The offense Hamilton Park.
Speaker 4: Have the just jump on it, jump on it, just
Speaker 4: because at that time, you remember, we couldn't pick it up.
Speaker 2: We couldn't scoop and score. You always had to just
Speaker 2: jump on it.
Speaker 3: Oh man, that was you couldn't advance a fumble. I
Speaker 3: don't remember where.
Speaker 8: No, no, you just jump on the fumble. They need
Speaker 8: to reinstitute that rule you advanceack then that's what there
Speaker 8: needs to be. The cow Boys need to have a
Speaker 8: rule with their offensive lineman. Just tell him there's there's
Speaker 8: a rule against you. You'll get penalized if you try
Speaker 8: to advance.
Speaker 2: It in his defense. He's like, you know what, I
Speaker 2: just screw it up. There's no defense.
Speaker 4: No, no, no, I'm giving it to him. I just
Speaker 4: screwed up. I'm sorry, guys. I've got to make up
Speaker 4: for it. There it is, there's my redemption right there.
Speaker 2: Boom.
Speaker 6: It's one thing to get you to cause the fumble
Speaker 6: and then you fumble.
Speaker 2: He sees it opening there, it is right there. Oh
Speaker 2: my god. He went back to his t too high.
Speaker 6: His TCU tight end days.
Speaker 9: Is that what it was?
Speaker 2: I don't know. Did he ever right?
Speaker 3: He played h back at TCU. Something gave him going
Speaker 3: to touchdown.
Speaker 2: The notion that he could do this.
Speaker 6: There was nowhere else.
Speaker 2: No, he saw it. We didn't see it.
Speaker 3: He saw something.
Speaker 2: He saw something in front of him.
Speaker 4: He didn't see the black dude in the black uniform
Speaker 4: and just knocked the hell out of it.
Speaker 3: I'm the same guy who forced the original fumble. Score scores,
Speaker 3: and he was also he may have had the biggest
Speaker 3: play of the game for the Texans in the game,
Speaker 3: going back to the sixty four yard field goal, because
Speaker 3: he had the personal foul penalty. Derek Barnett had a
Speaker 3: head slash. Yeah, the personal foul penalty. If that play
Speaker 3: doesn't If that penalty doesn't occur, the Cowboys cut the
Speaker 3: lead to twenty third, three, right right. You know what
Speaker 3: I literally thought at that time, even though the thought
Speaker 3: went through my mind, don't take the.
Speaker 2: Points off the board.
Speaker 4: Off the board, Yeah, they say that used to be
Speaker 4: the thing, never take pots off the board, but it
Speaker 4: was analytics comes around, they changed that, But that used
Speaker 4: to be the thing. Coaches, never take points off the board.
Speaker 3: But then I saw, okay, they're at the thirty one
Speaker 3: yard line, all right, go ahead. Fifteen yard penalty.
Speaker 2: Tough to tell.
Speaker 3: And so now you're at the thirty one and I
Speaker 3: still the thoughts running through my mind, we should take
Speaker 3: and then it gets and then it gets to fourth
Speaker 3: and two.
Speaker 6: Woh man, because you had to feel somewhat fortunate because
Speaker 6: you were backed up to third and twenty at the
Speaker 6: forty six when you made that film. Oh head slap.
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Speaker 3: All right, we should have had that commercial on the air.
Speaker 3: My throat started to hurt.
Speaker 2: From laughing so hard. But you know what, laughing at
Speaker 2: you know what else.
Speaker 6: We forgot on the on the fourth and two that
Speaker 6: they went for, They got a holding pedalty on it. Anyway,
Speaker 6: anyway they would have had fourth and twelve and then
Speaker 6: you would have kicked the field goal.
Speaker 3: Scoonmaker did all right, though, he really did.
Speaker 2: He really did.
Speaker 6: I was thinking what he had six catches. He totaled
Speaker 6: up to that game eight this year and last year
Speaker 6: all he had was eight. He had six, so he
Speaker 6: kind of emerged a little.
Speaker 2: He had to and no funds.
Speaker 6: Spain Ford did, okay, My dude.
Speaker 2: Man, dude, he is huge. Oh my god.
Speaker 4: I saw him in practice the other day. I'm talking
Speaker 4: about how huge he was, and in the game he
Speaker 4: looks even bigger.
Speaker 2: Yeah, oh my god. Is he six seven? Something like
Speaker 2: that he looked, because.
Speaker 4: When you start talking about tight ends, you're gonna go
Speaker 4: six five, you know, maybe six. He's not talking about
Speaker 4: six seven, six eight, my goodness, but he seems.
Speaker 3: Like he's just six six and a half to six.
Speaker 4: He's almost there, six seven and boy good like superman,
Speaker 4: boy man.
Speaker 3: So there was a college free agent find right there
Speaker 3: in Brevan span Ford, and we're gonna probably see more
Speaker 3: of Brevan span Ford handlers Schoonmaker against Washington because Jake
Speaker 3: Ferguson as a concussion. Short week with a concussion, I
Speaker 3: see a bunch of them the next two weeks.
Speaker 6: Jerry didn't sound too encouraged that he'd get back in
Speaker 6: time for the game.
Speaker 2: There was Jake's my dude, man, but boy, he's had
Speaker 2: a rough you he's had a rough.
Speaker 3: Ye.
Speaker 6: All I know is scoon Maker had more catches for
Speaker 6: more yards than Dalton Schultz.
Speaker 2: M hmm. Yeah.
Speaker 9: Yeah.
Speaker 2: We didn't want Dalton to come back in here to
Speaker 2: do something.
Speaker 6: Who led them with five catches?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I think he didn't even throw the ball that.
Speaker 6: Muchut Uh thirty four twenty three of thirty four for
Speaker 6: two fifty seven, only one sack.
Speaker 3: When you compare it to sixty times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's what I was looking.
Speaker 6: So what did you think of how they finished the
Speaker 6: game on the offensive line?
Speaker 2: Not well at all? What are you looking at it?
Speaker 6: So you had awesome three fifths of your starters were missing.
Speaker 2: That's awesome. Get a holding call? Yeah it was.
Speaker 6: Holding too, but Geydon was out the shoulder again. Then
Speaker 6: Zach Martin.
Speaker 3: Goes out with various ailments.
Speaker 6: Yeah, ankle, shoulder age illness, Yeah, yeah, age. And then
Speaker 6: Tyler Smith goes out ankle. So you realized they were
Speaker 6: down to their last offensive linement because brock Hoffman came
Speaker 6: in to play left guard, Richards played left tackle, and
Speaker 6: then t J. Bat Bass played right guard. So one
Speaker 6: more injury.
Speaker 3: And who would have been playing offensive a tight end
Speaker 3: or a defensive lineman.
Speaker 6: Or a defensive lineman, but.
Speaker 2: They wouldn't know it would have been a defensive lineman.
Speaker 2: You gotta go with somebody on the ford.
Speaker 3: He's the only one that would come close to at
Speaker 3: six six and a half.
Speaker 2: To sixty, I take him, put him.
Speaker 6: I was thinking, might discover a right time. Right if
Speaker 6: it was BB that got hurt, brock Hoffman would have
Speaker 6: had the center, and you need a guard, Mazzi. Maybe
Speaker 6: I was thinking Trent Siggs deep snapper, the deep snapper,
Speaker 6: but he's only two forty too small.
Speaker 2: Hey man, you can't be saying too small if you
Speaker 2: have the offensive.
Speaker 3: Well, no, because the change the rules changed on the
Speaker 3: deep snappers where you don't have to be del hellistad
Speaker 3: a snap anymore. Yeah, they can't. They can't hover over.
Speaker 6: Did you watch the end of the Bears game. Yeah,
Speaker 6: they crushed that center and no call.
Speaker 3: Packers on the game.
Speaker 2: And he got through there.
Speaker 6: He got through because he crushed the center. You know
Speaker 6: who the coach was on that Yeah, I was gonna
Speaker 6: say Biachi Pasachia.
Speaker 3: And you Knowson Garrett on Sunday Night Football the pregame
Speaker 3: show said he got a text from Pisacia. Watch this,
Speaker 3: I got something and it turned out he.
Speaker 6: Did, yeah, illegally and who had to point it out
Speaker 6: the next dayber flu.
Speaker 2: So well loves company.
Speaker 6: So who knows the Jets?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: Bill knows me? So well, let's talk about that.
Speaker 6: Geez well, I thought their GM knew everything.
Speaker 3: Douglas, he was the genius right, put that roster together,
Speaker 3: he put together, hired the head.
Speaker 2: Coach without without Aaron mm hmmm.
Speaker 6: So what if I mean, what if these guys on
Speaker 6: the offensive line are injured going forward, like I can't play.
Speaker 3: Well, let's go look at the practice squad.
Speaker 6: So well, let's go, we'll have to play.
Speaker 2: And he's not on the.
Speaker 6: Practice squad, but he's on the roster. Josh Josh wall
Speaker 6: on the practice squad and Tuma. They might have to
Speaker 6: tell him you're healthy to get out there.
Speaker 2: Practice squad. I did not know that.
Speaker 3: I didn't know it either. Was last week and realized,
Speaker 3: oh yeah, Josh is still on the practice.
Speaker 6: And Tuma's twenty one day lead a ramp up had
Speaker 6: already started, and I think he was one of the inactives,
Speaker 6: so he would have to play.
Speaker 2: So, so who do we have this week?
Speaker 3: Washington?
Speaker 2: Washington? Okay, so Washington is good. What is the strength
Speaker 2: of their entire team?
Speaker 3: Jaden Daniels.
Speaker 2: Besides that.
Speaker 3: D line it has been now they rade it away
Speaker 3: and lost, you know, and and Chase Young was there before,
Speaker 3: and they said one of their tackles was out last
Speaker 3: week it was Jonathan Allen or Deron Payne.
Speaker 6: Payne was out serious, Oh, I don't know, but he
Speaker 6: didn't play.
Speaker 2: It's still a culture that.
Speaker 3: They have there, and that's dan Quinn's position there. You go, Well,
Speaker 3: he's going to make sure.
Speaker 6: These know how much culture developed in ten games.
Speaker 4: Well, I think going back to they I thought they've
Speaker 4: always had that simply because that's been their mindset for
Speaker 4: about the last five years.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they've invested first round draft picks in defensive
Speaker 3: tackles and defensive ends.
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is not good. For us.
Speaker 3: Let's see, I'm checking on them Washington. Well, and then
Speaker 3: the second round draft pick this year is uh Is
Speaker 3: Jerson Newton, who is in for Jonathan Allen right now
Speaker 3: as a starter. So it's basically out of Illinois, big
Speaker 3: guy out Illinois.
Speaker 6: Jade and Daniels McLaurin the wide.
Speaker 3: Receiver who was shut down last week.
Speaker 6: Yes, and they've done a decent job running in.
Speaker 3: I've got Dorren's armstrong and not Dey Fowler racking up
Speaker 3: some sack numbers.
Speaker 6: Power has a bunch, did I hear eight?
Speaker 3: They And the other part of it, to your point
Speaker 3: is I really like what they did at the linebacker position,
Speaker 3: not only with Bobby Wagner but with Frankie lou who
Speaker 3: they really upgraded there. But and that's something that the
Speaker 3: offensive line's got to contend with.
Speaker 2: Mm mmm mmmm.
Speaker 6: So I got another bone to pick. So when you
Speaker 6: get beat like that, no one wants to point out
Speaker 6: they're not good enough. Everybody wants to point out, well,
Speaker 6: I don't think they gave enough effort. And I think
Speaker 6: that's a lame excuse to give them for not being
Speaker 6: good enough. Because did Cavante Turpin looked like he wasn't
Speaker 6: given any efforts running his ass off. Josh Butler playing
Speaker 6: his first NFL game, Do you think he was tryan?
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 2: He got a couple of nice hits too, right. He
Speaker 2: got a little excited out there a couple of times.
Speaker 6: Princeton fant has to play his first NFL game. He's
Speaker 6: playing hard, scoon Maker, playing hard.
Speaker 4: You had I can't get his name. It was number
Speaker 4: thirty five's name for us Leapel leaphile. He had to
Speaker 4: play nickel, if I'm not mistaken, didn't I say it?
Speaker 6: Well? They had, they had they they went to jan
Speaker 6: y A. Thomas there for a while on the nickel.
Speaker 2: I saw he was taking the tackle of covering the
Speaker 2: slot man. Yeah. I saw.
Speaker 6: They must have been in zone because you wouldn't.
Speaker 2: He was right there, he was covering the slot man. Yeah,
Speaker 2: number two.
Speaker 3: To make him to get him on it.
Speaker 6: You know those rookies are playing hard right over shown
Speaker 6: Leophile Kendrick says, nine tackles. I don't want to hear
Speaker 6: about this effort thing. That's such a clique. You get
Speaker 6: this book of cliches. When you start losing, well, you
Speaker 6: have any effort. Jerry put a stop to well, when
Speaker 6: he walked off with about four of us after he
Speaker 6: talked for however long, and somebody asked him about the effort,
Speaker 6: and he goes, I think that's overblown.
Speaker 2: It's mistakes. Yes, it's not effort. It's mistakes and everyone's
Speaker 2: making them.
Speaker 6: And a lot of those guys are on the last
Speaker 6: year of their contracts. They're not going to go out
Speaker 6: there in the loaf. Somebody's watching me. I can't put
Speaker 6: bad tape out there if I'm going to be a
Speaker 6: free agent.
Speaker 2: I think the biggest thing is trust.
Speaker 4: I don't think especially defensively, I don't think they trust
Speaker 4: each other because you seem to always have someone that's
Speaker 4: out of position. It's not that he's not trying. The
Speaker 4: effort is there. I don't think they know where to be.
Speaker 4: There are too many guys that are wide open. There
Speaker 4: are too many gaps in your defense to where And
Speaker 4: that's once again I.
Speaker 2: Put that on the coaches. You have to make sure
Speaker 2: that everyone is where they need.
Speaker 4: To be, so it's more preparation. That's what I look at,
Speaker 4: And I know it's tough. You got you got to
Speaker 4: work with all these different guys. Now, these different combinations.
Speaker 4: Half the time, you'll know who's gonna be playing where.
Speaker 4: But that needs to be a universal understanding in the
Speaker 4: locker room. We have to be in place before we
Speaker 4: can do anything well.
Speaker 6: And if you look at remember before the Atlanta game,
Speaker 6: when Will was diagramming the running place Roberts Jean Robinson
Speaker 6: with that cutback, What did you think Nixon was doing.
Speaker 2: In the row?
Speaker 3: The touchdown, the touchdown, I'm talking forty yards. No, I'm
Speaker 3: talking about his second touch or maybe his third touch,
Speaker 3: his free his touchdown where he started up the middle
Speaker 3: and went right.
Speaker 6: Yeah, before that play, I.
Speaker 3: Said, he's going right, He's going right because you could
Speaker 3: tell for the alignment of the defense that is where
Speaker 3: the weakness was.
Speaker 6: And they're cutting back on them.
Speaker 3: And so they started if play was designed to go
Speaker 3: up the middle, and he bounced that outside and nobody
Speaker 3: was in position.
Speaker 4: If you're on the one yard line and you're outside,
Speaker 4: you can't stop a player from getting one yard from
Speaker 4: out here. You have to maintain where you are and
Speaker 4: just be a spectator. You stay where you are, maintain
Speaker 4: and set the edge. You had two guys out of
Speaker 4: position twice in the row.
Speaker 3: And you got and Parsons is lined up as a
Speaker 3: defensive tackle on that play. I mean he had a
Speaker 3: hand on the ground down inside, and I'm like, that's
Speaker 3: one guy who, if he's playing on the edge, can
Speaker 3: run him down and actually bring down Joe Mixon in
Speaker 3: the open field a cornerback.
Speaker 2: They did they did inside was shut off.
Speaker 4: Job well done. You want to flush that out to
Speaker 4: the outside. And then you got little guys like myself
Speaker 4: out looking like he rose. And they had two chances
Speaker 4: to do that.
Speaker 3: And that's why Mixon did this to the Josh Butler
Speaker 3: or whoever it was that was trailing him, like you're
Speaker 3: not tackling it.
Speaker 4: I mean, if you just set the edge, he doesn't
Speaker 4: get up ahead of steam and you just make the tackle.
Speaker 6: I swear I where you miss DeMarcus Lawrence, Marshawn Neeland,
Speaker 6: true defensive ends to play out there.
Speaker 4: I'm looking at the corners. I'm looking at the corner
Speaker 4: of the safety. Those are the two guys that were
Speaker 4: supposed to be out there on that one. I thought
Speaker 4: the ends did their job. They flushed it out. You
Speaker 4: gotta have these two guys out here, and twice in
Speaker 4: the row they made the same mistake. Those are the
Speaker 4: small things that stopped great plays from happening. And I
Speaker 4: wouldn't say great play because I don't know how once
Speaker 4: we win the game, but I will say they would
Speaker 4: be meaningful stops, so where it could make a difference
Speaker 4: in the score, therefore the outcome.
Speaker 2: Of the game.
Speaker 3: Because you're saying that a smaller player, like a corner
Speaker 3: or a safety, if he's setting the edge, he's got
Speaker 3: outside leverage in mixing, can't get outside.
Speaker 2: I can't get outside. First of all, he's spending too
Speaker 2: much time in here.
Speaker 4: He realizes that, so as he bounces outside, Oh, the
Speaker 4: play is already done.
Speaker 3: So you can't get the edge. Can't get sucked in.
Speaker 4: He can't get sucked in. You can't get And he
Speaker 4: doesn't have enough He doesn't have enough steam. He didn't
Speaker 4: build up enough steam to threaten you. If you set
Speaker 4: the edge, it would make it easier for you to
Speaker 4: make that play. He's gonna have to go wider and deeper.
Speaker 2: And now you've got the advantage and chase.
Speaker 4: You can chase and head him off and bring him
Speaker 4: back inside where guys would eventually come that way.
Speaker 2: If he's gonna retreat, which is what he has no
Speaker 2: other choice but to do.
Speaker 3: But if it's just gonna be a foot race to
Speaker 3: the flag, do you realize that they done that first possession.
Speaker 6: They scored two touchdowns the first play of the game.
Speaker 3: You're a guy, Nicole Collins who's doing it. Hey, look
Speaker 3: look over your shoulder. He can talk.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he can talk.
Speaker 3: Look shot right there for those who don't know. Ever
Speaker 3: since in Nico Collins had a speaking engagement in Corpus
Speaker 3: Christy in the office Southstake earlier South Padre and uh
Speaker 3: so we were never supposed to get in to speak,
Speaker 3: and they're supposed to scheduled to speak. So Nico goes first,
Speaker 3: and he took like thirty seconds maybe maybe went and
Speaker 3: sat down.
Speaker 2: Thanks for coming out, good night.
Speaker 3: That was it ever said. Thanks a lot. He's got
Speaker 3: he's got the forty five minutes to fill.
Speaker 2: I don't even think he stayed for my speech. He left.
Speaker 3: Well, he does his work quick as the first play
Speaker 3: of the game called back, all right, so we continue
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Speaker 3: de Marveiana Overshewn.
Speaker 6: The Marion Overshown's trying to stop a run and he's
Speaker 6: diving to get to the running back and they called
Speaker 6: him for a low block.
Speaker 1: Low.
Speaker 6: He's not blocking, He's trying to make a tackle.
Speaker 2: Because where but where was the running backs bag.
Speaker 6: Right behind the two guys he tried to bust through.
Speaker 6: How do you call that? It's just it's amazing some
Speaker 6: of the stuff that those ice come up with.
Speaker 4: I think against the Cowboys. I think that the referees
Speaker 4: field that they're getting paid by degree of difficulty.
Speaker 2: Are must be.
Speaker 4: That's a hard Okay, that's a difficult one. The holding
Speaker 4: on MASI I actually missed that one. Uh tell me
Speaker 4: about that one.
Speaker 2: I wasn't.
Speaker 6: It was the second player of the game, second player
Speaker 6: of the game, and he gets he gets called for
Speaker 6: holding and he's trying to fight off a block and
Speaker 6: he's just kind of moving the guy. It wasn't like
Speaker 6: he grabbed him to pull him out so somebody else
Speaker 6: can make a tackle. It's just amazing, just amazing the
Speaker 6: stuff they.
Speaker 2: Come up with.
Speaker 6: You know, they had Turpin had that that return and
Speaker 6: they got called for holding, right, mclamu, mcclomu. Yeah, you
Speaker 6: just go through the whole game, all right, the fake punt.
Speaker 6: But you know what, and we'll get to the fake punt, ye,
Speaker 6: thank you. Everybody talks about the Cowboys penalties, right, each
Speaker 6: team had nine penalties. Okay, it was a very very
Speaker 6: very equal statistic.
Speaker 4: It was a tacky game. It was just tacky, guys.
Speaker 4: We had a lot of mistakes in that game on
Speaker 4: both sides.
Speaker 3: Okay, but if you go through the stat sheet, it's
Speaker 3: like first downs about equal. Total yards were equal, penalties
Speaker 3: were equal. The only thing that was.
Speaker 6: Was rushing rushing yards by the way, yeah, but everything
Speaker 6: else each team the Cowboys had two turner was they
Speaker 6: had one.
Speaker 3: Cowboys made up for the lack of rushing yards with
Speaker 3: the rush yards the past game passing yards by rush. Right,
Speaker 3: very nice, All right, Can we go to the fake punt?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Can we stop doing this?
Speaker 2: Can we stop faking punts and just the down ball?
Speaker 3: Well, I thought. I thought that the best drives were
Speaker 3: ones that ended in a kick, whether it be an
Speaker 3: extra point, a field goal, or a punt. What happened
Speaker 3: to that? We've had two in the last three games.
Speaker 2: Now. It was just trying to throw you off, man,
Speaker 2: that's how. That's how. He didn't mean that.
Speaker 6: And it was fourth and nine, fourth and nine on
Speaker 6: end of the field and you're thirty three.
Speaker 3: Now, as it turned out, they threw an interception, and
Speaker 3: then the Cowboys threw an interception right now, right eye
Speaker 3: penalty that should have been a penalty play. Yeah, but
Speaker 3: and as it and think about it, the Texans first
Speaker 3: drive of the game, it was like a knife through
Speaker 3: butter to go seventy seven yards for a touchdown. On
Speaker 3: that Positionion Smoke.
Speaker 6: Was tunsled downfield. Sometimes we don't get to see.
Speaker 3: The Yeah, see what he was, Yes, and he was blocking,
Speaker 3: uh or looking for somebody the momentum. No, No, it
Speaker 3: was downfield, definitely. But anyway, on the fake punt, I mean, please,
Speaker 3: it's like trying to do too much because you get
Speaker 3: your backup quarterback in the yes, and I think they
Speaker 3: need to understand that. Let the game play out and
Speaker 3: you're gonna you're gonna be better off by playing a
Speaker 3: field position game.
Speaker 6: And not gambling. And it sounds like who's ever in
Speaker 6: charge out there? If you see something, you got to
Speaker 6: call it off.
Speaker 3: And I think that's what happened on it. Did you
Speaker 3: hear McCarthy's explanation.
Speaker 6: It sounded like it should have been called off because
Speaker 6: they dropped the the.
Speaker 3: Option should not have even been on. Okay, just tell
Speaker 3: them this game, we're not running this okay.
Speaker 6: Because you had to pick up nine? They picked up
Speaker 6: what four? And the guy was right there covering them.
Speaker 6: They snuffed it out. But yeah, okay.
Speaker 3: I had another issue in the late first half. Cowboys
Speaker 3: take over with three to fifty five left and the
Speaker 3: half they run it to Rico for nine yards, Rico
Speaker 3: for three yards, okay, first down at their own thirty
Speaker 3: two completion, Schoonmaker for eight to Rico for five, first
Speaker 3: down at the forty five. Then you had a five
Speaker 3: yard illegal contact penalty. Now you got first down at
Speaker 3: the fifty. Then in completion you get another illegal contact.
Speaker 3: You're first down at the Houston forty five yard line. Okay,
Speaker 3: we're now under two minutes left, and then it goes
Speaker 3: incomplete complete to CD complete two flanoia, a complete toscooed
Speaker 3: maker and there's still one ten left in the game
Speaker 3: in the half. Now you got a first down and
Speaker 3: it's an incomplete pass, and then finally it's a rush
Speaker 3: two yard run and you're still one oh six left.
Speaker 3: My point is understanding the abilities of the players that
Speaker 3: you have with a backup quarterback, you're not going to
Speaker 3: be able to matriculate your way down the field throwing
Speaker 3: the football. Run the clock, or at least make them
Speaker 3: use the timeouts so that they're not going to get
Speaker 3: an opportunity with fifty six seconds left in that Now,
Speaker 3: as it turns out, the Texans through three straight incompletions.
Speaker 3: But I'm talking about clock management in the final two
Speaker 3: minutes of the half, and run the football even though
Speaker 3: you got plenty of time left, plenty of time left,
Speaker 3: you had too much time left. The point is you
Speaker 3: do not want Houston to get the football back with
Speaker 3: a chance to score at the end of the half, right.
Speaker 6: And they ended up calling a time out with one
Speaker 6: minute left before the field goal attempt right which was
Speaker 6: no good, which he slipped on right exactly and he
Speaker 6: got forced. But I just at least make them use
Speaker 6: their timeouts right. But I just think it goes back
Speaker 6: to it's a different This is a different offense without
Speaker 6: Dak Prescott.
Speaker 2: Honey.
Speaker 4: I think our last three games, our defense has played
Speaker 4: well enough to where they deserve to be trusted. Sometimes
Speaker 4: in those situations, we don't trust our defense based on
Speaker 4: what we were doing early on and now these fake
Speaker 4: punts coming out of nowhere and these unnecessary gambles and
Speaker 4: decisions taking points off the board. It's because of what
Speaker 4: our mindset was first five, six, seven games of the season. Defensively,
Speaker 4: we couldn't stop anybody now on where we are defensively,
Speaker 4: even with the injuries we could have in certain situations,
Speaker 4: put the ball in their hands and let them do
Speaker 4: what they have to do. And like you said, play
Speaker 4: the field position game. You can only play a field
Speaker 4: position game if you have a good defense.
Speaker 3: But when you're taking over, you're basically in a four
Speaker 3: minute offense, not a two minute offense. With three fifty
Speaker 3: five left and you ran it twice to start that possession,
Speaker 3: but even once it got under two minutes, you have
Speaker 3: plenty of time to make your way down the field.
Speaker 3: And the one thing you don't want to have happen
Speaker 3: is for Houston to get the football back with their
Speaker 3: timeouts with an opportunity to score again.
Speaker 2: And sometimes that was after we made some unnecessary gamble.
Speaker 3: So it was ten straight past places after and.
Speaker 2: Anyway, and.
Speaker 4: The gambles, the fake punts and things of that nature
Speaker 4: may not have been necessary right now because our defense
Speaker 4: was actually trying to tow the line and.
Speaker 3: It was past place. You're running your two minute offense
Speaker 3: where you're you know, receivers are getting the ball on
Speaker 3: the on the flanks and they're getting out of bound
Speaker 3: and they're stopping the clock.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, ah, you're trying to pick something out. All
Speaker 2: of it is, all of it is is a down.
Speaker 6: I was looking at I was looking at halftime. It's
Speaker 6: seventeen ten. Yeah, you hit the up right on a
Speaker 6: field goal and you took one off the board. The
Speaker 6: total yards Houston two thirty two, Dallas two oh nine.
Speaker 6: The Cowboys only had the ball for twelve minutes.
Speaker 3: I got a double check that it's true.
Speaker 6: Twelve minutes or twenty eight seconds in the first half.
Speaker 2: That's it. And they still you were holding that one,
Speaker 2: then you that's true. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: I write down the stats at half times saying it
Speaker 3: was seventeen thirty two to twelve twenty eight.
Speaker 6: My other staff stat here was it was homecoming for
Speaker 6: the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders. They had two hundred and fifty.
Speaker 3: Former cheerleaders to show up to perform as that on
Speaker 3: they did. Yeah, and they actually Charlotte Jones brought up
Speaker 3: Kelly and Judy before they met at midfield in pregame,
Speaker 3: and we were all in the building. Fans weren't in
Speaker 3: the building yet, and so honoring Kelly for thirty five
Speaker 3: years with the organization in forty years.
Speaker 6: So I was going down after they warmed up or whatever,
Speaker 6: and ran into a couple that recognized me. Oh well,
Speaker 6: judge Mickey, that's.
Speaker 3: Right, you're one of the main raising something to help
Speaker 3: some of them get on Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 2: That's right.
Speaker 3: Well that was the highlight of the night.
Speaker 6: All right, all right?
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