WEBVTT - Draft Show: Getting Aggressive? 0:00:03.040 --> 0:00:05.560 The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:05.559 --> 0:00:13.600 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is the 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:18.759 Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show, your war room for 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:22.880 insider news and trapped analysis from deep within the confines 0:00:22.920 --> 0:00:29.600 of Cowboys headquarters at the Star in Frisco. And now 0:00:30.040 --> 0:00:35.960 your hosts Brian brought us, Jeff Kavanaugh, Kyle Yeomans, and 0:00:36.760 --> 0:00:44.559 David Hellman. It's Thursday, April the fourteenth, twenty two. The 0:00:44.680 --> 0:00:47.360 draft is two weeks away, and we are here to 0:00:47.440 --> 0:00:50.440 get you through the home stretch. I'm David Hellman. I'm 0:00:50.520 --> 0:00:53.480 joined by Jeff, Brian Kyle. Like the Big Voice said, 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.400 Welcome to another episode of the Draft Show, presented by 0:00:56.560 --> 0:01:00.520 Miller Litte, the only beer of the Dallas Cowboys. Guys, 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:06.120 we actually have news, if you want to call it that, 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:09.720 or at least something different to talk about besides arguing 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:14.760 player prospects. Jerry Jones spoke for the first time in 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:19.800 a few weeks. Yesterday Cowboys announced a new corporate partnership 0:01:19.880 --> 0:01:24.000 with Blockchain dot Com. I knew you're gonna say. I 0:01:24.040 --> 0:01:26.120 was gonna say, spare me the joke, please, Jeff. But 0:01:26.200 --> 0:01:30.800 that's okay. You did it anyway? He basically, you know, 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:35.040 he answered a couple questions that weren't about cryptocurrency, one 0:01:35.040 --> 0:01:37.720 of which being his preferences in this draft class. And 0:01:37.800 --> 0:01:43.040 he did say, quote, I would trade up in this 0:01:43.120 --> 0:01:45.399 draft since we're down as low as we are in 0:01:45.440 --> 0:01:48.600 those first two or three rounds. And of course the 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:52.320 internet lost its damn mine, because that's all you really 0:01:52.360 --> 0:01:55.440 can do is overreact to tidbits of information when it 0:01:55.440 --> 0:01:57.440 comes to the draft. I would love to have a 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:01.200 conversation about this, and if we could, we'll just say 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.840 the first three because those are the big, big valuable 0:02:03.880 --> 0:02:07.440 picks in any draft. What do you think that would 0:02:07.480 --> 0:02:10.440 look like in all three of these phases if the 0:02:10.440 --> 0:02:12.480 Cowboys were to try to get aggressive in this trade, 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:13.920 how far do you want to go? I mean, I know, 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.120 I think his up means down because he said like 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:18.120 they trade it up for Travis Frederick, which was a 0:02:18.160 --> 0:02:23.359 trade doll, So he's playing opposite I okay, I understand, 0:02:23.520 --> 0:02:26.040 I understand the confusion there. But he did say we're 0:02:26.160 --> 0:02:28.680 down as low as we are, yeah, which is to 0:02:28.720 --> 0:02:30.920 say you're back in the latter half. I think he 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:34.799 meant going up. Okay, Well, then now let's determine who 0:02:34.840 --> 0:02:38.360 he's going up for. And you really can't just take 0:02:38.400 --> 0:02:41.240 the thirty visit list, but if you want to, you can. 0:02:41.840 --> 0:02:45.120 You know, um, and I know you're captain. Trade down 0:02:45.280 --> 0:02:48.200 or trade back, and that's cool. Jeff made his feelings 0:02:48.200 --> 0:02:51.079 about this. Now no, no, I mean, I'm I understand, 0:02:51.120 --> 0:02:53.600 I understand, but okay, let me ask you. You're not 0:02:53.639 --> 0:02:55.880 comfortable at all going up, But if you had to 0:02:55.960 --> 0:02:58.120 go up, if you had to go up and get 0:02:58.160 --> 0:03:01.600 some in, if you took the thirty visit list, is 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:03.880 Charles Cross the only one you're going for? Or you're 0:03:03.880 --> 0:03:06.520 gonna go try and get one of these receivers. I 0:03:06.560 --> 0:03:10.080 would not move up for a receiver. Okay. I do 0:03:10.160 --> 0:03:12.440 think Charles Cross might be the only name on their 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:14.920 thirty visit list that makes sense as Alloyd, you wouldn't 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:17.200 move up for that's the linebacker. Utah. So okay, now 0:03:17.200 --> 0:03:19.400 we have to determine it might not be somebody on 0:03:19.400 --> 0:03:22.000 their thirty visit list that we're missing out on, which 0:03:22.040 --> 0:03:24.720 I was just talking about this this morning, and it's 0:03:24.720 --> 0:03:27.600 just something I want people to remember, like knowing the 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:30.799 thirty list, knowing the guys they've talked to does help. Yeah, 0:03:30.880 --> 0:03:34.640 and inevitably they target guys that they are familiar with. 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.920 It is not the gospel by any stretch of the imagination, 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:42.400 Like they routinely draft guys that were not I'll tell 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:44.680 you that. Yeah, I'll tell you what Jerry might have done. 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:46.440 He might have thrown the chum in the water to 0:03:46.480 --> 0:03:49.640 tell somebody that they're interested in moving. But also I 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:52.520 think land Zerline did a really good mock draft that 0:03:53.040 --> 0:03:55.160 painted a picture. I know Jeff and Dana and I 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:58.480 talked about this last night, that he had Kansas City 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:02.480 going up ahead of you to draft Chris Olavey. So 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:04.720 all of a sudden, you know, if you're telling people, hey, 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:07.640 we're willing to move, you know, maybe you're you know, 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.480 because sometimes the Cowboys will sit there and people jump them, 0:04:10.880 --> 0:04:13.320 and then all of a sudden they lose opportunity on players, 0:04:13.360 --> 0:04:14.880 you know, and you're like, going, on, Dan, they just 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:17.919 got jumped. But by doing that, by saying that he 0:04:18.040 --> 0:04:22.159 might aggressively go, it's like, now you put some doubt 0:04:22.200 --> 0:04:25.000 in people's at the back of the draft that maybe 0:04:25.080 --> 0:04:27.159 Dallas is going you know, I mean, you got to 0:04:27.160 --> 0:04:29.480 create some kind of well, hey, we got to get 0:04:29.480 --> 0:04:31.320 ahead of Dallas. Well, wait a minute, Dallas is talking 0:04:31.320 --> 0:04:33.560 about going to do we have to do this. I mean, 0:04:33.600 --> 0:04:36.080 you know, so instead instead of just sitting there and 0:04:36.120 --> 0:04:38.479 minding your own business. That's a lot of times you 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:42.560 get jumped doing that. And especially is has we've been 0:04:42.600 --> 0:04:45.760 able to talk about who the Cowboys visits have been, 0:04:46.160 --> 0:04:48.440 and we've done this show for the last four or 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.719 five months of just talking about player by player. If 0:04:51.800 --> 0:04:53.880 you if you follow along what we're talking about or 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.920 follow people that cover this team, they're giving you an 0:04:56.960 --> 0:05:00.880 idea of who the Cowboys are looking at. And maybe that's, 0:05:00.960 --> 0:05:02.960 you know, maybe that's their way of kind of preventing 0:05:03.480 --> 0:05:06.320 teams from thinking about jumping them. Kyle Yeoman's you look 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.240 like you're doing a trade math over. I am doing 0:05:08.279 --> 0:05:11.039 trade math. I was looking because maybe if it's not 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:14.240 in the first round, maybe it's not the Charles Crosses, 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.120 it's not the Jordan davis Is, Maybe it's in the 0:05:16.120 --> 0:05:18.000 second round or the third round. We've talked about that 0:05:18.040 --> 0:05:20.760 as a possibility as well of taking eighty eight and 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:22.760 going and trying to get back in the top seventy 0:05:22.839 --> 0:05:25.680 or seventy five, taking fifty six and trying to turn 0:05:25.760 --> 0:05:27.880 that into a top forty five pick, because that's where 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:30.920 the value of this draft is. Because it is so 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:35.400 jumbled up from picks ten through sixty that there is 0:05:35.720 --> 0:05:38.039 a value to maybe get up and go get a 0:05:38.080 --> 0:05:41.120 guy that you like that maybe if had slipped out 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.720 of that first round territory, it would be tough to 0:05:43.760 --> 0:05:47.520 get from fifty six to forty five. I put forty 0:05:47.560 --> 0:05:49.960 five is just a marker of maybe, hey, we can 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:51.680 get back up in the top forty five picks. It 0:05:51.720 --> 0:05:53.960 would probably take I'll give you a four or fifth 0:05:54.000 --> 0:05:56.560 round picks. Yeah, that's kind of what I was looking at, was, hey, 0:05:56.600 --> 0:05:58.920 that all equals one hundred, then you give him fifty 0:05:58.960 --> 0:06:01.240 six and you can make maybe make it work. I 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.560 don't know if anybody would ever realistically accept that we 0:06:04.600 --> 0:06:08.920 could maybe package two fifth round picks, maybe your fourth 0:06:08.920 --> 0:06:12.239 if you wanted to. But even that doesn't necessarily entice 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:15.159 me enough to move just twelve spots up the board 0:06:15.240 --> 0:06:17.880 or eleven spots up the board, are you saying, because 0:06:17.880 --> 0:06:20.040 I mean in the second round you're two and three, 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.719 would get that done? I think, right? Are you willing 0:06:22.760 --> 0:06:24.480 to give up eighty eight though I'm trying to do it? 0:06:24.520 --> 0:06:27.719 Without giving up AD eight me. No, Yeah, for the 0:06:27.760 --> 0:06:29.960 whole time I've done this. I hate getting rid of picks. 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.240 Is it realistic that they would give up eighty eight? Well, 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.320 we get back in this style. Now we take the 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:38.560 four and the fives to get back to three, and 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.000 we just keep doing that until we run. Ay, and 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:43.200 you only pick in the first four rounds. I just 0:06:43.279 --> 0:06:46.560 think okay with that. Teams like to trade out of 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:48.920 a top fifty pick, you got to give value, and 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:51.400 that's the thing I think. I think people get lost 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.120 where they're like, oh, if we give up our four 0:06:53.160 --> 0:06:55.440 and all of our fifths the values there, and the 0:06:55.440 --> 0:06:58.040 other team's like, no, why would you do that? Want 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:00.440 a top one hundred pick? I don't care about because 0:07:00.440 --> 0:07:02.920 the hit rate is so much better. And that's why 0:07:02.920 --> 0:07:04.560 I don't think that's realistic. Are you going up for 0:07:04.640 --> 0:07:09.279 in the second round? Um? Off the top of my head, 0:07:09.279 --> 0:07:12.600 I would say, first of all, if I'm going up anywhere, 0:07:13.120 --> 0:07:15.760 I'm going up for a premiere position. I'm not going 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:19.200 up for a linebacker or a nose tackle or probably 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:20.840 a safety. But I could go up for a wide 0:07:20.840 --> 0:07:23.080 receiver if they stick around. Okay, So I'm gonna give 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.640 you Zion Johnson is your first pick at twenty four, 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:29.880 go somewhere and talk to me again. I'm gonna be 0:07:30.040 --> 0:07:32.960 tracking if I've taken my offensive lineman, because like Dane 0:07:32.960 --> 0:07:35.720 Brugler did his seven round mock draft on the Athletic 0:07:35.760 --> 0:07:39.440 and it's awesome. Go check it out, and he didn't 0:07:39.440 --> 0:07:41.680 have the Cowboys touch a wide receiver until the fourth 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:45.680 I'm not comfortable with that because this is just a 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:49.000 game I want to play really quickly. Let's say your 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:51.800 number one receiver at the end of the preseason roles 0:07:51.800 --> 0:07:53.200 and ankle and is going to miss a couple weeks 0:07:53.280 --> 0:07:56.679 or something, which you're damn near. Your wide receiver corps 0:07:56.680 --> 0:08:01.040 now to start an NFL football season would be James Washington, 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.920 Noah Brown, and Semi Fihoko. Because Gallop, we think is 0:08:03.920 --> 0:08:05.640 gonna miss a little bit. He's gonna miss a couple 0:08:05.640 --> 0:08:08.640 of games probably. Yeah, I'm not comfortable without one of 0:08:08.760 --> 0:08:12.400 my three best receivers. Not he's not on the roster yet. 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:14.920 So if you tell me I take an offensive lineman, 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.720 then I'm watching the receivers and I want to be 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:22.680 told let's say the first round, because five, six, seven 0:08:22.720 --> 0:08:24.400 of them might go in the first round. Sure, But 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:28.360 what I want to know is where is George Pickens? Yeah, 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:31.360 George Pickens was the name as soon as Brian that question. Yeah, 0:08:31.360 --> 0:08:34.559 that's what I was thinking. To your wide receiver. If 0:08:34.559 --> 0:08:37.800 he's hanging around at around pick forty, get him, then 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:40.319 I would be like, sure, go get him. Would you 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.640 spend your eighty eight to go get a player like 0:08:42.679 --> 0:08:46.400 that and then maybe we can? I think he would. 0:08:46.440 --> 0:08:48.120 I think he would because I don't think he'd like 0:08:48.240 --> 0:08:51.200 to take Sam Williams from from Old Miss so again 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:53.839 using we'll just use Dan's mox since he did seven rounds. 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.040 That's fine. Yeah, Now what you're asking me is what 0:08:56.120 --> 0:08:58.240 I give up Joanni Woods, who I really liked, the 0:08:58.320 --> 0:09:01.240 tight end from Virginia, who Dane gave the Cowboys at 0:09:01.280 --> 0:09:04.680 eighty eight. And Sam Williams, the defensive end who they 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:08.480 pick at fifty six. Yeah, for George Pickens all day, 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:13.520 every day, all day, every day. That's your tight end. One. Yeah, 0:09:13.559 --> 0:09:16.319 and George Pickens is my wide receiver. Three. Though you 0:09:16.400 --> 0:09:19.040 are really high on Sam Williams. I like Sam Way. 0:09:19.520 --> 0:09:21.360 I like him, just not as much as George Pickins. 0:09:21.400 --> 0:09:25.160 Like Sam Williams won't be my favorite player at fifty six. Sure, 0:09:25.160 --> 0:09:28.560 there's no way. And Gelanni Woods could be my favorite 0:09:28.559 --> 0:09:31.280 player at eighty eight, But I'd take George Pickens at 0:09:31.360 --> 0:09:35.400 number twenty four. That's how much I think that he 0:09:35.480 --> 0:09:37.959 is an absolute baller if he didn't tear up a 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:41.600 knee in spring ball Top fifteen pick Maybe let me 0:09:41.600 --> 0:09:44.720 flip this for you guys. Then what if I tell 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.760 you you take Chris O' lobby at twenty four, And 0:09:47.800 --> 0:09:50.280 I know it's not your favorite player, but just say cowboys, 0:09:50.720 --> 0:09:52.920 cowboys take a Lobby at twenty four. Now what are 0:09:52.920 --> 0:09:56.240 we going up for in the second round? Green or Johnson? 0:09:56.280 --> 0:09:59.199 If one of those guys falls out of the first lay, yeah, 0:09:59.240 --> 0:10:00.880 you get a guard. Get a guard in mind you 0:10:01.000 --> 0:10:03.719 you're liking Board and Johnson. Mine, I guess would be 0:10:03.800 --> 0:10:06.840 Darian Kennard. Like I think, I can wait. I can 0:10:06.920 --> 0:10:09.120 wait on that, Okay, So, so it doesn't feel like 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.480 a guy with so if so, if we're trading up 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:13.840 that it sounds like our group thinks if we're trading 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.560 up in the seconds for a wide receiver, that's what 0:10:16.720 --> 0:10:18.840 that's what we that's what they can hear. The value 0:10:18.840 --> 0:10:21.720 there is better right in the picks between thirty three 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:28.000 and fifty, or if some analysts are wrong about how 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.000 much the league loves Central Michigan left tackle Bernard Raymond. 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:33.679 Maybe he's a four an NFL team who thinks that's 0:10:33.720 --> 0:10:36.600 their future left tackle, you'd go up to a number 0:10:36.720 --> 0:10:39.560 forty for that. Yeah. I have him as number five 0:10:40.360 --> 0:10:43.240 on my tackle board. Yeah, he's my fifth tackle als. Yeah, 0:10:43.240 --> 0:10:44.760 but you've probably got the other four going in the 0:10:44.800 --> 0:10:47.240 first round, right, Yeah, I do. He's number five, and 0:10:47.280 --> 0:10:48.960 I kind of when he gets picked by the Cowboys, 0:10:49.000 --> 0:10:50.679 I kind of like, you know, yeah, I think it 0:10:50.679 --> 0:10:52.280 goes at twenty four. I won't like it. Yeah, I 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:55.640 kind of, But see that happening. See that's what I'm saying. 0:10:55.679 --> 0:10:58.800 I first round pick on the visit list. See that's 0:10:58.800 --> 0:11:01.960 what I'm saying. If he gets his If Jerry's going 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:04.280 up for an offensive lineman in the first I think 0:11:04.280 --> 0:11:06.800 it would only be for Cross. I think it would 0:11:06.840 --> 0:11:08.960 only be he might go for Penny. He might try 0:11:09.000 --> 0:11:11.680 and get Penny. You know that might be something you do. 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.680 I think that to me. I'm interested to see where 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:17.200 Cross is going to go. Every mock draft. Where did 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:19.120 Dane have him going? Dane him in the top ten 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.440 when you put me on the spot, I'm sorry, I've 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:24.200 got pulled up. Was it top? Was he inside the 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:31.040 top ten? He was? He was control sixteenth overall? Okay, sixteen. 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:35.199 Now we're talking a little different here, all right now, 0:11:35.200 --> 0:11:37.280 going back to the first round, whoa, all of a sudden, 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:40.760 we see a Charles Cross slide. I'm on the phones, boys, 0:11:40.960 --> 0:11:44.800 is that a slide? Like? I've never seen him outside 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:48.480 the top ten? Never? Okay never? And again, these are 0:11:48.520 --> 0:11:52.280 I'm not just talking about I'm just random mock drafts 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.040 of fans of so and nothing against those, But I'm 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:57.720 telling Daniel Jeremiah mock drafts, Bucky Brooke mocks draps. That's 0:11:57.720 --> 0:12:00.760 what I'm talking about, guys who have been in this league. Okay, 0:12:00.920 --> 0:12:04.840 understanding understanding that trade charts are not a perfect science. 0:12:05.520 --> 0:12:08.400 The Internet says that's a two hundred and sixty point 0:12:08.559 --> 0:12:11.400 difference between twenty four and sixteen. Are we going up 0:12:11.440 --> 0:12:14.079 specifically the sixteen that was the pick that the Saints 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:18.480 kind of finagled from the Eagles to Saints might be taken. 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.240 Are the Saints taken Cross? Yes? Okay, there you go 0:12:21.640 --> 0:12:26.640 see that. Now you might not. That's why they're not 0:12:27.040 --> 0:12:29.199 away from their guy if you exactly. Jeff just gave 0:12:29.240 --> 0:12:31.559 you this the key right there, Like we're talking about 0:12:31.720 --> 0:12:34.480 Kansas City, jump in Dallas for a lobby. You got 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:36.640 to get ahead of the Saints. You know, if the 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:38.360 Eagles are right in front of him, and then it's 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.480 the Ravens at fourteen, Texans at thirteen, and you get 0:12:41.480 --> 0:12:44.560 the Ravens to come off that. You know, I'm looking 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:48.040 at the Ravens picks. They have seen forty five seventy six, 0:12:48.040 --> 0:12:51.400 so they have everybody's got the Ravens taken. The Again, Dane, 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.880 did you have him taken then? Lloyd? Devin Lloyd? That 0:12:55.040 --> 0:12:58.360 come off that to fifteen would be a three hundred 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:02.719 and ten point difference. Yeah, fifty six is worth three 0:13:02.800 --> 0:13:06.040 hundred and forty I'm telling you man. So I mean, 0:13:06.080 --> 0:13:07.839 you get both of those picks and you get a 0:13:07.920 --> 0:13:10.280 tackle of the future. Yeah, how you feel about that? Well, 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.400 I'm playing him at right tackle, and I'm telling I'm 0:13:12.440 --> 0:13:15.880 telling my current right tackle. Listen, you're now the swing dude, 0:13:16.160 --> 0:13:18.200 and we got to figure out something at left guard. 0:13:18.640 --> 0:13:20.840 You know, I mean, do you ride into other season 0:13:21.080 --> 0:13:23.320 saying I'm not saying this is a good idea, but 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:25.800 could cross play guard for a season? Man, I don't. 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:28.079 He's just too good of a tackle. Yeah, I mean 0:13:28.120 --> 0:13:30.400 this is when I kind of see a young Tyrant 0:13:30.480 --> 0:13:33.120 Smith coming out of USC. It's twenty one year old guy. 0:13:33.200 --> 0:13:36.600 You know, it's got really good technique. I mean, to 0:13:36.600 --> 0:13:38.160 be honest with you, kind of feel he's a better 0:13:38.200 --> 0:13:40.000 left tackle than he probably would be a right tackle. 0:13:40.040 --> 0:13:41.640 I agree, he'll have a chance to play some of 0:13:41.640 --> 0:13:43.360 that as well. If I had to guess, see, still 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.760 your top tackle y is yeah, hey, just randomly using 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:48.800 Dane's mock draft because you're talking about who you would 0:13:48.840 --> 0:13:50.480 be going up in the second or somebody else. Well, 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:52.360 so now, yeah, it was I'm looking at if it 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.760 played out this way, the answer for me would be, 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:58.520 you have six wide receivers go in the first round, 0:13:58.640 --> 0:14:01.040 and neither one his name's George Pickens or sky Moore. 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:05.200 Here you go thirty seven, George Pickens goes sky Moore, 0:14:05.360 --> 0:14:09.360 and Bernard Raymond the central Michigan tackle go forty one 0:14:09.480 --> 0:14:13.280 and forty two. So somewhere around pick forty, I'd be like, guys, 0:14:13.320 --> 0:14:15.520 there's two guys where I want to go get who's 0:14:15.559 --> 0:14:18.120 who's my team's at forty one and forty two, Seattle's 0:14:18.160 --> 0:14:21.480 forty one, India's forty two. All right, John's trying to 0:14:21.480 --> 0:14:24.880 rebuild his team. Ballard. Ballard will stand in there at 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.080 pick John Schneider loves a trade back, does it like 0:14:28.960 --> 0:14:31.760 he does. I think he's got multiple twos though. Yeah, 0:14:31.760 --> 0:14:37.520 he's at hease. Matt Corrall and Bernard Raymond is where 0:14:37.520 --> 0:14:40.880 they're going. So yeah, in my world, we're trading. We're 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:43.960 trading up to forty two for Sky Moore. Now that's 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:46.160 the Colt's first pick of the draft. Though they don't 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.360 have that first round pick. Moore apparently have one. It's 0:14:48.640 --> 0:14:50.960 one in the third. Yeah, you can maybe argue that 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:54.560 they want some more draft capital there going back in 0:14:54.640 --> 0:14:56.360 forty two, going back to it, I mean you can, 0:14:56.480 --> 0:14:58.600 you could wait. You could wait if you're Ballard. I 0:14:58.640 --> 0:15:01.040 mean I think they probably they will probably stand in 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:03.520 there and make a pick. Snyder's the one I would target. 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:05.160 Who do we got ahead of Snyder? And some give 0:15:05.200 --> 0:15:07.120 me some other other teams. Give me two three teams 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.680 ahead of Snyder. Chicago's at thirty nine and that's their 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.640 first new GM. He's gonna stand there and pick They 0:15:13.680 --> 0:15:18.800 need picks though. Yeah, they were so tight there that No, 0:15:18.960 --> 0:15:21.000 he's gotta he's gotta make a pick. That's when I 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:24.200 start calling about skies. When somebody takes Christian Watson ahead 0:15:24.200 --> 0:15:26.760 of him, Bears gates time to go. I like Christian 0:15:26.760 --> 0:15:30.360 Watson a lot. Fine. Bears are at third elemental pros 0:15:30.480 --> 0:15:32.600 who's ahead of the Bears. Bears are at thirty nine, 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:35.560 Jets are at thirty eight. Texans are at thirty seven. Okay, Texans, 0:15:36.160 --> 0:15:39.440 we target the Texans again, got two first. Hey, the 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:41.600 Texans are the ones who take Pickens. So if you 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.560 can get to that pick, you can get George Pickens. 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.360 You're also at pick thirty seven. Yeah, let's party. That 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:50.640 is an expensive pick. Give me, so, what what's the 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:54.600 trade value on that? Five thirty? Cowboys second round pick 0:15:54.680 --> 0:16:01.160 is worth three forty find me one hundred and ninety. Man, 0:16:01.720 --> 0:16:05.040 you guys, you guys. I love pickings, man, I really do. 0:16:06.560 --> 0:16:08.200 I would have to, I mean, just take them at twenty. 0:16:08.320 --> 0:16:10.120 You know, I'm Jerry Jones, Stephen Jones. I'm not gonna 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:12.720 lose my job. Let's go. I mean, seriously, if you're 0:16:12.760 --> 0:16:15.560 a general manager that's sitting there thinking about like making 0:16:15.600 --> 0:16:18.560 a massive jump, and you're thinking I'm gonna lose my job. 0:16:18.880 --> 0:16:21.520 You're thinking, well, hell, somebody else's problem. You know that 0:16:21.600 --> 0:16:23.840 kind of deal. Okay, tell me if I'm crazy, if 0:16:23.840 --> 0:16:25.920 I think that's why Jerry should be more aggressive than 0:16:25.960 --> 0:16:28.200 everybody else. They're not gonna lose their jobs. Tell me 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.880 if I'm crazy for thinking this. And I like Pickens, 0:16:31.200 --> 0:16:33.640 I've I mocked him in the seven round mock that 0:16:33.680 --> 0:16:35.960 we did for Dallas Cowboys dot Com the other day. 0:16:36.080 --> 0:16:38.200 But if you're jumping all the way up into the thirties, 0:16:40.000 --> 0:16:43.280 I would rather And again we're just we're trying to 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.960 predict something that's impossible, but and that's we're trying to 0:16:45.960 --> 0:16:49.520 get a range. I'd rather get my receiver at twenty four. Yeah, 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.480 and hope that Zion or Kenyan Greene falls into the 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:56.680 thirties there, because can't you just imagine, and your receiver 0:16:56.760 --> 0:16:59.680 would be trailing Burkes at least most likely he goes 0:16:59.680 --> 0:17:05.280 twenty five. Okay, and I think anyways, Alave goes twenty two, 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:08.639 that's devastating. You could get to thirty seven if we 0:17:08.680 --> 0:17:10.720 wanted to go get George Pickens at thirty seven but 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:13.080 you would have to package fifty six and eighty eight. 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:15.040 That gets you to four hundred and ninety trade points 0:17:15.720 --> 0:17:20.560 more you need, Yeah, you need basically fifty and then 0:17:20.760 --> 0:17:22.760 I would package two of those fifth round picks. We 0:17:23.000 --> 0:17:24.479 can we send him a player? Can we send them 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:26.280 somebody a corner or something like that that we might 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.240 not be able to use. Anthony Brown, You got a 0:17:28.280 --> 0:17:30.600 draft the call, Jordan Lewis something like that. This is 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:32.280 one of those things where you better be right too, 0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.160 because this goes against everything I stand for and everything 0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:39.480 that the day, honestly, honestly, because what this falls into 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:43.560 is just arrogance in your own evaluations. Yeah, is saying that, look, 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:46.520 I'm right, and that guy shouldn't still be here, and 0:17:46.560 --> 0:17:49.560 I'm going to give up four picks because that's the 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:52.480 right guy, and it's an it's a bad idea in 0:17:52.520 --> 0:17:55.119 a vacuum. I'll never right. There's a lot of guys 0:17:55.119 --> 0:17:56.800 and gals that have died on that hill going that 0:17:57.040 --> 0:17:58.880 it's the right guy. I'm not Look, I'm not saying 0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:00.520 they're always right. I'm not saying they would be right. 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:02.119 Wait wait wait, wait, wait, real quick, real quick, I'm 0:18:02.119 --> 0:18:04.919 gonna ask him a question. Then, if you had to 0:18:04.960 --> 0:18:08.240 pick between Pickens and sky Moore, would you pick Skymore 0:18:09.560 --> 0:18:11.240 if we were going up, If we're going up in 0:18:11.240 --> 0:18:13.280 both were on the board, you'd pick Skymarber Pickets, I 0:18:13.359 --> 0:18:16.040 would I think Skymore. And this is I think this 0:18:16.080 --> 0:18:18.320 is what evaluation is. It's all how you personally feel 0:18:18.320 --> 0:18:21.920 about Brian ear Muffett. For me, they're ceiling and their floor. 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.120 Like George Pickens, his ceiling is to be a really 0:18:25.160 --> 0:18:31.040 really good outside wide receiver. And sky Moore, I think 0:18:31.200 --> 0:18:35.520 his floor is as high as almost anybody in the draft. 0:18:36.000 --> 0:18:39.040 Skymore will be a good slot receiver in the NFL, 0:18:39.160 --> 0:18:41.760 I promise. Can he play outside at all? Yes? Which, 0:18:41.840 --> 0:18:43.760 so I was thinking about this last night because again 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:48.160 I've mocked Pickens here a few times. Are we focusing 0:18:48.200 --> 0:18:50.240 too much on a guy that I hate to call 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:53.000 him a one trick pony, but he's like an ex receiver, 0:18:53.240 --> 0:18:55.320 you know, and that you think about this Core has 0:18:55.760 --> 0:18:57.919 CD who can do a little bit of both. I 0:18:57.960 --> 0:19:00.119 think they will get CD out of a slot. That's 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.120 what kind of hearing those whispers they want to get 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:04.800 him out play more outside. So I'm saying, well, Pickens 0:19:04.880 --> 0:19:08.280 isn't gonna play inside probably son't you guys coming around? 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:10.119 I like where, I like where our heads are right now. 0:19:10.160 --> 0:19:14.080 I mean, taking forty shows, sky Moore is now realistically 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.400 in the conversation at you know, he's always in the conversation, 0:19:17.680 --> 0:19:20.919 just realistic because the gentleman's my right. It's less about 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:24.399 it's not a conversation. It's less about skyting investigation of 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:27.439 the sky Morris ability. It's less about sky Moore for 0:19:27.520 --> 0:19:31.359 me and more about does Pickens fit this receiver corps. Okay, 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:34.880 so we've determined you take a guard at twenty four, 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:37.920 you're going up for a receiver. You take, you take 0:19:37.960 --> 0:19:43.159 a receiver at twenty four. You're thinking about whatever offensive 0:19:43.200 --> 0:19:46.800 lineman is hanging there for you, or whatever defensive players there. 0:19:46.840 --> 0:19:49.400 I think, I mean, I understand if it doesn't thrill 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:51.159 Jeff or a lot of other people. I think you 0:19:51.240 --> 0:19:54.080 have to think about Sam Williams there. Because athletic pass 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:57.240 rushers see, don't fall. They're gonna That's that's the thing. 0:19:57.320 --> 0:20:01.200 They've They've given you enough of an indication. And again 0:20:01.240 --> 0:20:04.280 it's steal Bob Seger song. Working on mysteries without any clues. No, 0:20:04.400 --> 0:20:07.280