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Speaker 3: And we are underway. Welcome into the Action Network Podcast

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Speaker 3: presented by Fandel. At last NFL Draft week, we are

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Speaker 3: really excited to give you one last betting update leading

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Speaker 3: up to Thursday nights first round. We have a lot

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Speaker 3: to get to your host today, Brendan Glasheen, joined by

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Speaker 3: the usual suspects for our Wednesday recording, Luke swayin Vegas Refund.

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Speaker 3: You often hear from him during the football season. He's

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Speaker 3: been excellent in our draft coverage here on the pod,

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Speaker 3: and Travis Reed of bet Labs. Also alongside we have

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Speaker 3: Evan Abrams, our director of Research and Media at Action Network.

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Speaker 3: He's here to sprinkle in some data. Our team's making

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Speaker 3: the right call Historically when a certain position goes it

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Speaker 3: a certain pick, how does it fare down the road,

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Speaker 3: and just other phenomenal draft nuggets that we'll have throughout

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Speaker 3: the course of the show, we will dive into audience

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Speaker 3: questions potentially in terms of how markets come and go

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Speaker 3: leading up to Thursday, whether there's value or no value,

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Speaker 3: and we'll find that out as well when we dive

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Speaker 3: into picks. We have plenty of picks coming your way.

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Speaker 3: This is going to be more of a pick show.

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Speaker 3: We've done a lot of rumor mongering, deciphering the rumor mill.

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Speaker 3: Is it smoke? Is it real? We'll dive in and

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Speaker 3: we will begin Luke, We'll do one last kind of

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Speaker 3: market updates, some headline stuff before we dive into picks.

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Speaker 3: Because the Will Levis Reddit thing has caught the attention

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Speaker 3: of many, we'll start with that. Lance Zerline kind of

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Speaker 3: came out and said, like, I think it's a hoax.

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Speaker 3: Houston's gonna bolt to the table or to the podium

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Speaker 3: to take Bryce Young if indeed Levis goes one. But

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Speaker 3: that's a lead off story. Let's bury some of the

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Speaker 3: last minute market updates, your latest developing thoughts on Levis

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Speaker 3: and where he might end up.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I'm honestly resistant to talking about the

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Speaker 1: whole like Levis to number one, where like just delete

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Speaker 1: that from your memory if anything, Like, just take that

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Speaker 1: as one of the hundred examples that we've had this

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Speaker 1: season about how sensitive this market is, where if they're

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Speaker 1: just keep him at fifty to one, forty to one,

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Speaker 1: like that's how you go broke.

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Speaker 2: But they just moved it. They had no idea. It

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Speaker 2: was read a post.

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Speaker 1: I guess that read a post technically could be true,

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Speaker 1: but you want to bend too a market based off

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Speaker 1: some guy on Reddit, Like.

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Speaker 2: That's your problem.

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Speaker 1: But Levis to me right now still feels like the

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Speaker 1: ceiling is four. I was like, give a percentage for

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Speaker 1: the number two pick.

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Speaker 2: I would say.

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Speaker 1: I would rank them Tyree Anderson, Levis, Levis and Anderson

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Speaker 1: probably somewhat tied, but that might just be recency biased

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Speaker 1: for every mock you see has Anderson at number two.

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Speaker 1: But Zerline came out and he had a tweet reply

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Speaker 1: yesterday which was amazing, like he was he's been the

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Speaker 1: to be Stroud, like no, if he contacts behind it,

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Speaker 1: he just said not Stroud that too, which a couple

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Speaker 1: previous one kind of makes it even more relevant. But three,

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Speaker 1: you have some Paris Johnson rumors. Everything down to like

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Speaker 1: Kyler wanting Paris Johnson. You see a couple of moncks,

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Speaker 1: like guys like Charles Davis, who's a pretty good mocker.

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Speaker 1: NFL dot Com even had him there for whatever reason.

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Speaker 1: Kind of buying Paris Johnson at three, Like not totally,

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Speaker 1: but that's also a prime spot for the Cardinals to

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Speaker 1: Paris a Lotvis at Colts still Richardson feels like he's

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Speaker 1: And then Stroud is the mystery. I think Stroud's ceiling

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Speaker 1: everyone else is on like our certainty on being uncertain

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Speaker 1: which gives us a leg up. But Jalen Carter is

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Speaker 1: consensus is everyone's expecting the Seahawks to take Cutter and

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Speaker 1: Carter's under yesterday, which was at six and a half

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Speaker 1: I don't know where that money came from, which usually

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Speaker 2: And it's a move like that, you got to take notice.

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Speaker 1: But the Eagles are also rumored to trade up to five,

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Speaker 1: which would definitely be for Jalen Carter.

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Speaker 2: So there's a lot going on. But yeah, I think

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Speaker 3: A lot to unpack from that. Jalen Carter specifically, I

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Speaker 3: saw a last night on FanDuel plus one forty to

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Speaker 3: So that also connects to see I'm glad you brought

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Speaker 3: up Anthony Richardson. There's a lack of clarity on his

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Speaker 3: there's no Anthony Richardson is not a favorite for any

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Speaker 1: And I will say his overrunner has been four and

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Speaker 1: before we hopped on the show, DraftKings finally moved it

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Speaker 2: Both sides, they literally have no idea, but that is.

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Speaker 1: A legitimate signal that he could fall outside the top ten.

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Speaker 1: And we've been saying it that if there's a guy,

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Speaker 1: So like the scenarios feel like less likely than likely

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Speaker 2: But I just that is like who knows as.

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Speaker 3: Far as a bit of news, And I'll get Travis's

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Speaker 3: thoughts here and then we'll go to Evan John McClain,

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Speaker 3: longtime reporter at the Houston Chronicle. He now writes for

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Speaker 3: sports Radio six'. Ten houston guy connected to The. Texans

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Speaker 3: he was on the radio this morning and, Said houston

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Speaker 3: has no indecision. Whatsoever those are national media. Reports they

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Speaker 3: tight lid on. It with the second, PICK i have

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Speaker 3: them Taking Will levis in my final mock, draft and

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Speaker 3: that's someone who's pretty connected to the. Organization levis at

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Speaker 3: plus two thirty to go number. Two he is the

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Speaker 3: favorite to go fourth overall to The colts as of.

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Speaker 3: Now if The colts stay at four at plus one,

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Speaker 3: Thirty travis a lot there From. LUKE i think he

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Speaker 3: hit the headlines the other One Vjon robinson said he'd

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Speaker 3: want to play With Jalen hurts and The eagles pick a.

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Speaker 3: Ten they want to build a you, know An All

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Speaker 3: Star Skills challenge. Team maybe they should take him a.

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Speaker 3: Ten BUT i think they need help up, front helping the.

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Speaker 3: Trenches But travis, knowing just as we, do one last

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Speaker 3: that's grabbing your attention that you're just messing around with

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Speaker 3: in your head right?

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Speaker 4: Now, yeah the you mentioned The houston that's still the

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Speaker 4: lynchpin in the, draft and he said they are, decided

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Speaker 4: but they're keeping a tight.

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Speaker 3: Lid so like you, said he's he's plugged.

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Speaker 4: In but the fact that he's acknowledging that they're keeping

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Speaker 4: that secret tends to make me think he doesn't know

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Speaker 4: what the pick, is, uh but that he knows that

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Speaker 4: they know what the pick. Is SO i wouldn't take

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Speaker 4: that mock draft to, Say, okay they're definitely Taking levis

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Speaker 4: because he's plugged into The houston. Market SO i still,

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Speaker 4: think you, Know tyree's the favorite in the. Market AND i,

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Speaker 4: think you, know we go back to that very first

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Speaker 4: zero line we call the drunk mock you know. THAT

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Speaker 4: i think that's the most likely outcome Is tyree at

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Speaker 4: two and Then arizona wants to get out at. Three

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Speaker 4: we've known that for a. While they want to trade.

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Speaker 4: Down they need a lot of, pieces but is anybody

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Speaker 4: we're still waiting on. THAT i think yesterday was actually

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Speaker 4: a good day to Buy Bryce young to go. One

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Speaker 4: Have Jay glazer, saying, yeah he's he's the. Pick that's

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Speaker 4: not one hundred, Percent but if that's ninety nine, percent

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Speaker 4: laying minus five hundred minus seven hundred into a market

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Speaker 4: like that is a perfectly reasonable. Price AND i think

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Speaker 4: of this made up news Of levis And leubble reddit.

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Speaker 3: Situation, well the market's moving as we speak on This,

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Speaker 3: wednesday the day before the. Draft Anthony richardson's draft position

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Speaker 3: number is changing as we. Speak we're seeing some seven

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Speaker 3: and a half's out there, now which now reflects What

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Speaker 3: luke just. Discussed if indeed he falls to, seven which

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Speaker 3: is where The Vegas raiders select Or atlanta at. Eight

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Speaker 3: so just we have to break the news that we're

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Speaker 3: coming live on a record. Here you've got to keep people.

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Speaker 3: Updated Evan, abrams we haven't heard from you. Yet what

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Speaker 3: to you has emerged in your research with one day

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Speaker 5: It's Just Anthony, Richardson And i'll go back to that

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Speaker 5: for a few. Reasons it's just the fact that his combine,

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Speaker 5: prospect at the. Time like his numbers were, absurd highest

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Speaker 5: broad jump for any quarterback in the Combine since two,

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Speaker 5: thousand only two quarterbacks have had a vertical jump of

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Speaker 5: forty or more or forty inch or. More like all

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Speaker 5: these things that came out about, HIM i think made

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Speaker 5: everyone realize how big of a prospect he. Is BUT

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Speaker 5: i also think he's a prospect and a, project and

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Speaker 5: that's kind of the reason that he's kind of fallen.

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Speaker 5: Back it's Interesting FanDuel right now Has richardson at plus

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Speaker 5: one hundred to be a top five. Pick i'm really

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Speaker 5: really hope he would they would offer the other side

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Speaker 5: like to bet him not to be a top five,

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Speaker 5: his college, career be the fewest by a first round

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Speaker 5: and then from, THERE i Think richardson's just going to

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Speaker 3: Shot eiterview have thoughts on that With. RICHARDSON i Know,

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Speaker 3: Travis We've luke had thoughts on. Him any developing opinion On.

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Speaker 4: RICHARDSON i Think tennessee would take him at eleven if

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Speaker 4: Letting tannehill maybe play this last year out and then

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Speaker 6: Term, okay let's get into the, picks because we've done

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Speaker 3: Did BUT i think folks at this point now are, Thinking,

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Speaker 3: okay you guys have been given us all this, stuff

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Speaker 3: this but now they're, Like, okay NOW i want to

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Speaker 3: very clear when you give picks or if there's something

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Speaker 3: there's no. Value and, Example, Luke i'm looking at that

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Speaker 3: pick you get out last. WEEK i believe it was

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Speaker 3: course not the actual player. Name you HAD i think

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Speaker 3: it was a defensive line or offensive LINE d, line

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Speaker 3: bet a, game, right you've lose value on the. Line

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Speaker 3: maybe you stay away in not all. Cases i'm just

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Speaker 1: Example, yeah that's it's actually not a bad spot to

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Speaker 1: a month, AGO i gave Out eagles offensive LINE, yep

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Speaker 1: which was like plus four, hundred and Now eagles at

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Speaker 1: at this Point i'm going to go With eagles defensive

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Speaker 1: defensive lines should definitely be. Favored and if you've got

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Speaker 1: a good number On EAGLES o line really the only

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Speaker 1: both of these is going to Be John, robinson which

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Speaker 2: Risk because right now The eagles.

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Speaker 1: Sit at, ten we have the rumors of them trading

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Speaker 1: up to, five which you would assume is For Jalen.

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Speaker 1: CARTER i, MEAN i guess it could be For, vijon

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Speaker 1: which Then evan would win his phenomenal seventy five to one.

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Speaker 1: Debt but let's just assume it's For Jalen carter at

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Speaker 1: five that would be d line or if they stay

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Speaker 1: put the twenty, picks which one of. TWO i really

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Speaker 1: believe In Nolan smith if he gets, there that would

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Speaker 1: be a fantastic pick that you hear everything that they love.

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Speaker 1: Him Van nas is a very trendy, pick which you

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Speaker 1: also hear of. Him but there is a premium, position

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Speaker 1: the first, round on Which oline is definitely still alive

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Speaker 1: if you have a good, number not be laying the.

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Speaker 1: Number Where oline to me at this point feels like

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Speaker 1: a scenario that it would be best available Like, skeronsky

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Speaker 1: where guys Like nolan go. Eight Essential, yeah Like jalen's

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Speaker 1: they would just default To. Scronsky but D line if

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Speaker 1: a fault like there are more scenarios for D line

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Speaker 1: honestly it shouldn't be plus money at this, point WHICH

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Speaker 1: i think is a great. Bet and just, really these

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Speaker 1: odds are available because offensive line got steamed and these.

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Speaker 1: Aren't this is an efficient market and things that should

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Speaker 1: have been favored aren't anymore and are.

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Speaker 2: Just odds you can scoop, up basically.

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Speaker 3: Arbitrage that's a really and and off of, That so

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Speaker 3: to draft D line with their first selection in the,

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Speaker 3: draft so at, ten if they stay at, ten of

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Speaker 3: course if they, move that could but that even if they,

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Speaker 3: they want to move up and Draft carter because that

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Speaker 3: would still fit Your.

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Speaker 1: Yeah the drafting up scenarios where like usually trades are

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Speaker 1: just like they screw everything, up where like the snator

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Speaker 1: jaillen which The seahawks are the very trying to pick

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Speaker 1: to trade back right, now which that is The jalen,

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Speaker 1: jailen or just everything coming out about THE x taking.

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Speaker 1: Him but it could have been coincided about people betting

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Speaker 1: jailing at number five hearing The eagle stuff like who,

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Speaker 3: Want to get a pick From, Travis but just really,

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Speaker 3: instance has brought up his seventy five to one. Ticket

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Speaker 3: is it always? Appropriate are there situations where you don't

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Speaker 3: hedge out meaning Like i'll give you an Example Jackson

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Speaker 3: smith And. JIGBA i took him to go To Green

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Speaker 3: bay at plus four to. Seventy now he's down to

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Speaker 3: plus two ten at. FanDuel BUT i could get The

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Speaker 3: texans at plus four. Hundred DO i just bet The,

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Speaker 3: texans or DO i let it ride and just take

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Speaker 3: My Green bay ticket To. Thursday i'm just, curious are

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Speaker 3: get a very similar value, Number SO i.

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Speaker 2: Wouldn't, HONESTLY i wouldn't say this is a hedge at.

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Speaker 1: All this is kind of just like basically, harbitrage where

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Speaker 3: THE i, mean hedge isn't a great word because it's

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Speaker 1: You're basically raising the percentage of making a profit with

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Speaker 1: two great numbers where, yes better way specific specific, PLAYERS

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Speaker 1: i wouldn't with these. Positions you could over, runners, move

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Speaker 1: you can, middle BUT i WOULD i would say usually

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Speaker 1: most SCENARIOS i would just let it, ride but especially

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Speaker 1: but the scenarios that are like really low in the,

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Speaker 2: Have we have the pool players.

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Speaker 1: That are gonna go top, ten top fifteen in, theory

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Speaker 1: out where they're like the chaos gets in the back

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Speaker 1: end of the, round WHICH i wouldn't be doing that so.

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Speaker 1: Much but unless it's, like, yeah crazy numbers Like Kendon

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Speaker 1: you don't Believe Hendon hooker is even to go in

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Speaker 1: like Ooh, texans like that was. Interesting but, YEAH i

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Speaker 3: That makes, sense that makes. Sense it's not an exact,

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Speaker 3: hedge but if you've got you're just getting two great

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Speaker 3: at two positions for using the team example team to,

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Speaker 3: draft uh what position they draft at their first, pick

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Speaker 3: then perhaps there's an angle. There it's not an exact,

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Speaker 3: hetch but THAT'S i think that's just good to point

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Speaker 3: out just in case there's something, there and, which.

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Speaker 4: By the, way, yeah an example of that we've talked.

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Speaker 4: About i've Had Jackson smith And jigbud to go be first,

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Speaker 4: receiver AND i even have on what she, Hear Zay

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Speaker 4: flowers plus four hundred to be first just.

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Speaker 3: Kind of as a.

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Speaker 4: Hedge, okay just you, know so even you, know us the,

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Speaker 4: experts we kind of question whether or not we should

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Speaker 4: have hedge out of some of this because there is

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Speaker 4: such a wide range of. Outcomes SO i do think

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Speaker 4: and you've kind of been betting ON jsn TO b

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Speaker 4: THAT i think zay at plus four hundreds of fine

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Speaker 4: number to take right.

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Speaker 3: Down, Okay, travis what else you got as far as

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Speaker 3: what you want to give that's fresh and new For Thursday?

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Speaker 2: Night?

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Speaker 4: YEAH i like under one and a half running backs

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Speaker 4: in round. One this is basically just a bet On

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Speaker 4: Jamior gibbs not being a first. Rounder HIS adp is

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Speaker 4: right around, that like that thirty thirty five. Range so

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Speaker 4: really this is more just kind of a gut. Call

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Speaker 4: of those last teams in round, ONE i think are

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Speaker 4: would hope The chiefs learned their lesson From ceh a

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Speaker 4: few years ago and wouldn't make the same mistake of

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Speaker 4: taking a running back in the last pick around. One

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Speaker 4: SO i think Just vijon in the first round as

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Speaker 4: a running. BACK i like under one and a half

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Speaker 3: Round have An, ABRAMS i, think do you have something

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Speaker 5: PICK i was honestly gonna talk about the Two you

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Speaker 5: about the two way. Market it just to, me it's

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Speaker 5: difficult when you have too many, options like you get

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Speaker 5: if you have his example of having flowers as like

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Speaker 5: a backup to his initial, wager that to me's a.

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Speaker 5: Hedge but when you look at like six or seven,

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Speaker 5: TEAMS i could take a, player that's not a. Hedge

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Speaker 5: it's another. Bet it's another. Bet SO i just think

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Speaker 5: the show For Green Dot, daily SO i THINK i

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Speaker 5: did initially disagree with. It but now if you, look

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Speaker 5: that numbers up to like minus three, hundred SO i can.

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Speaker 3: Ease minus two seventy. Five, no pardon, me it's at

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Speaker 5: Vandel, YEAH i could honestly get out of it right

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Speaker 5: now and just take a, profit which is fun BECAUSE

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Speaker 5: i took that much. Earlier AND i think it's possible

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Speaker 5: i could Take gibs to The bengals and probably be

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Speaker 5: happier with the fact that that's like ten to, one

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Speaker 5: even twelve to one in some.

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00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,240
Speaker 3: Places so that just might be my.

434
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,159
Speaker 5: Bet and then if it doesn't go, There i'll make

435
00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,280
Speaker 5: the assumption that he rolls.

436
00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 4: Out, yeah and pricing is, everything you, know at a certain,

437
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:52,520
Speaker 4: Number i'm willing to go over one and a half

438
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 4: running backs as, Well so it's just taking the plus.

439
00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:59,120
Speaker 4: Money whenever these markets move, Around i'm willing to take

440
00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:00,280
Speaker 4: both sides.

441
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 3: And piggybacking off the round one specials. DISCUSSION i know

442
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 3: we just had a brief moment they're talking About Hendon,

443
00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:13,320
Speaker 3: hooker another market that has substantially changed over over under

444
00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,600
Speaker 3: four and a half quarterbacks first round the overs at

445
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:19,879
Speaker 3: minus two seventy. Five, now that probably relates to The

446
00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:22,800
Speaker 3: tennessee quarterback and where he might be at the end

447
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:25,520
Speaker 3: of the first. Round let's go back To luke for another.

448
00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 3: One what else you got for?

449
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:30,440
Speaker 1: Us so my second one going to go With bengals defensive,

450
00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:33,760
Speaker 1: line WHICH i believe right now is plus three, fifty

451
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:37,360
Speaker 1: which this is going to be one where the options

452
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:41,840
Speaker 1: that are favored for defensive line for The bengals are

453
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:48,560
Speaker 1: cornerback tight, end and then it's defensive, line which tight,

454
00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:50,840
Speaker 1: end you would have to assume that probably one of

455
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:51,560
Speaker 1: the two is off the.

456
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 2: Board Michael American.

457
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:57,040
Speaker 1: Kaid If kaid gets to twenty, eight he might be

458
00:22:57,200 --> 00:23:00,760
Speaker 1: following to twenty eight for the reasons that you don't,

459
00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 1: want like the medical red, flags et, cetera which is

460
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: definitely a question, mark and both of them might not

461
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: be there. Either and then when we get to wide,

462
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:13,439
Speaker 1: receiver like the WIDE severer class is, following but they

463
00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,680
Speaker 1: might not even be. There so this is going to

464
00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,560
Speaker 1: be one where like the options that are favored either

465
00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,879
Speaker 1: have a question mark or wider retriever just might not be.

466
00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:24,960
Speaker 1: There and then, quarterback excuse, me quarterback is the other,

467
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,120
Speaker 1: favorite and quarterbacks are. Surging so we have the two

468
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: in the top, ten and we Got, Forbes banks and

469
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 1: Then porter where.

470
00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:35,000
Speaker 2: They all might be.

471
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,199
Speaker 3: Gone so, like well and now kind of speaks that

472
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 3: speaks To travis's pick he gave out earlier in Our

473
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:45,399
Speaker 3: Betting update episodes when he took over five and a

474
00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:50,000
Speaker 3: half defensive backs in the first, round so that correlates.

475
00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 1: Right so like the cornerbacks might be, gone tight ends

476
00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 1: might be, gone and then you get to, like what

477
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:56,159
Speaker 1: are they going to do?

478
00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 2: Next and at the back.

479
00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,960
Speaker 1: End of the first, round that is when the defensive

480
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 1: line edge, guys there are more that can. Fit so

481
00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:10,720
Speaker 1: we got, McDonald The, Breasy Mazzie, smith the two guys'

482
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,440
Speaker 1: NAMES i can't. Pronounce like there's a plethoro defensive line

483
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:18,720
Speaker 1: options that you can make an argument that our first

484
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,199
Speaker 1: round talent and it JUST i, Mean gibbs would be

485
00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:23,800
Speaker 1: like the wild card THAT i can totally see blow this.

486
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 1: Up but which running back odds for The bengals Or gibs.

487
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,240
Speaker 1: Odgs The bengals are fun as, well but this is

488
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,160
Speaker 1: just kind of one where there's VALUE i think based

489
00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 1: off of how potentially the board could, fall and LIKE

490
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 1: i make my own mock drafts AND i get to

491
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: The bengals and SOMETHING i, like literally LIKE i just

492
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:43,800
Speaker 1: default to the defensive line because the tight ends are,

493
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,280
Speaker 1: gone the corners are, gone Like forbes is like going

494
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: in the teens now THAT i just think has value

495
00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: based off of WHAT i what is favored and not

496
00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 1: reaching them and being a premium.

497
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: Scision Nice This.

498
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,400
Speaker 3: Bengals defensive line with their first pick plus three point

499
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 3: fifty and As luke, mentioned The bengals don't select until

500
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,119
Speaker 3: twenty eight end of the first. Round buffalo's just in,

501
00:25:13,160 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 3: front and Then New orleans files in behind after. Them,

502
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:20,919
Speaker 3: Heay travis will go back to. You what do you

503
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 3: got for us on a?

504
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,280
Speaker 4: Pick, Yeah luke mentioned the wide receiver market, falling and

505
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,840
Speaker 4: my pick is That Quinton johnston over twenty six and

506
00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:32,399
Speaker 4: a half is actually plus one point thirty, now AND

507
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:35,960
Speaker 4: i like that value. THERE i, just, YEAH i agree

508
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 4: with what he. Said most of the receivers have just

509
00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:40,520
Speaker 4: kind of fallen back of where we originally thought they

510
00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 4: were going to. Go we've heard a lot of rumors

511
00:25:42,720 --> 00:25:46,720
Speaker 4: that the teams just don't think these receivers should be

512
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 4: as high as a lot of the early mocks were taking.

513
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 4: Them AND i Think quentin was kind of just in

514
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:57,119
Speaker 4: that first group of receivers just, initially but it seems

515
00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,960
Speaker 4: now Like Zay flowers has passed. Them addison seems to

516
00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,400
Speaker 4: have passed him at least looking at the LATEST max

517
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 4: and ADPs and everything like. That So i've seen mox

518
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,080
Speaker 4: where he's not in the first round at. All SO

519
00:26:10,240 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 4: i think getting a plus number, here LIKE i, said

520
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,240
Speaker 4: it's plus one twenty eight a FanDuel right BEFORE i

521
00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,480
Speaker 4: looked at over twenty six and a. HALF i like

522
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 4: Taking Quentin johnson's.

523
00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:24,680
Speaker 1: Over, luke you got a thought on this, one, YEAH

524
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 1: i Mean i've been on The quinton.

525
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: Over that was one of my first bats when they all.

526
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,280
Speaker 3: Was was it twenty six and a?

527
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:32,480
Speaker 2: Half?

528
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:35,440
Speaker 1: Also or did it it was twenty four and a,

529
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 1: half but there was juice on the over which twenty

530
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: six and a half at plus.

531
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,880
Speaker 2: MONEY I i can't argue with. That, okay very.

532
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 3: Good haven't you anything to weigh in on? Here as

533
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:48,720
Speaker 3: we talk about receiver at the bottom of the first,

534
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:49,920
Speaker 3: ROUND i.

535
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:53,040
Speaker 5: Like That quinton. OVER i think based on the fact

536
00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,440
Speaker 5: that you have so many options there and that skill

537
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 5: players tend to not be as valuable in these as

538
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 5: like defensive, lineman's offensive lineman's, like there's certain other areas

539
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 5: most teams tend to reach for, then like the fourth

540
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 5: receiver on the list FOR, US i think that's the right.

541
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,760
Speaker 5: Call and even when you're looking at these mocks like The,

542
00:27:14,920 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 5: CHIEFS i think is interesting if you wanted to lose that,

543
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 5: bet but yet try to pinpoint.

544
00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 3: Where he might.

545
00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 5: GO i see a few people like that at thirty,

546
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 5: one so that might be an, option and even even

547
00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:31,119
Speaker 5: at thirty THREE i think is interesting as. Well but,

548
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 5: YEAH i like, That, Bet i'm good with.

549
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 3: That if you have been a loyal listener to Our

550
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 3: draft update episodes here on The Action network. Podcast we

551
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 3: had the folks From Sports Info solutions join us a

552
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:47,359
Speaker 3: few weeks, back And Quenton johnson was the second ranked,

553
00:27:47,359 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 3: receiver only BEHIND. Jsn they Had flowers Three Josh downs

554
00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,280
Speaker 3: right Behind, flowers But Quentin johnson was high on their

555
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 3: list in terms of their overall wide receiver. Rankings he

556
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:04,680
Speaker 3: Actually Quentin johnson was sixteenth, overall so second among receivers

557
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 3: and sixteenth overall on THEIR uh on their big. Board

558
00:28:08,800 --> 00:28:11,879
Speaker 3: so but we've got we've got a, chance and that

559
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,439
Speaker 3: doesn't correlate necessarily with what teams think. Obviously so the

560
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,720
Speaker 3: guy's like an over twenty six and a. Half luke

561
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 3: got of the twenty four and a, half but still

562
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:22,359
Speaker 3: thinks it's. Playable, Okay, luke let's go back to. You

563
00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 3: we'll keep, Folks we've got The we'll just keep going

564
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 3: till these guys run out OF ammo here as it

565
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,640
Speaker 3: pertains to. Pick so what else you got for Us.

566
00:28:30,200 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 2: Siolet my next, One i'm not.

567
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 1: Sure, Yeah my next one is going to Be bucks

568
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: defensive line first, position WHICH i believe this is plus

569
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 1: two fifty On, Fandel BUT i think there are some

570
00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,320
Speaker 1: better prices out there where this is kind of similar

571
00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: to The, bengals WHERE i think offensive line should be

572
00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,920
Speaker 1: the favorite favorite and THEN i think defensive line should

573
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 1: not be far. Behind or offensive LINE i want to,

574
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: say is like in the Plus LIKE i think it's

575
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:58,720
Speaker 1: like plus one twenty.

576
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: Line plus one seven twenty FIVE d line plus two to.

577
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: Fifty, yeah so in their better, prices where this is

578
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: one where there's like four to five like first round

579
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 1: tackles where we Got Paris, Johnson, Scronski Broderick, darnell and

580
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 1: then the borderline guy who's trending up Is anton and

581
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: there's a very good chance.

582
00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 2: That all five of them might be.

583
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:29,240
Speaker 1: Gone then we get into the eighteen to twenty, range

584
00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:33,120
Speaker 1: which The bucks pick at. Nineteen we have a bunch

585
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: OF d line that should be there where the offensive

586
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:37,640
Speaker 1: line going are going to push the defensive line in

587
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: this range up where we Have Miles. MURPHY i think

588
00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 1: McDonald is live. Here that we have GUYS i can't

589
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: see et cetera where it is a. Preemcision this is

590
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:50,400
Speaker 1: an awful team that needs. Everything B john falls. HERE

591
00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:54,400
Speaker 1: i think they take him as. Well but at plus two,

592
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: fifty Every, buccaneers like expert beat writer has basically been

593
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:03,800
Speaker 1: harping offen of line defensive. Line one of those two,

594
00:30:03,840 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 1: options which is plus two. Fifty it's an easy one

595
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,760
Speaker 1: because it seems like the offensive linemen are trending are

596
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: getting dragged, down especially If paris goes.

597
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,000
Speaker 3: THREE i would imagine too in your, case when you're

598
00:30:16,040 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 3: looking at these team draft specials position of teams first drafted,

599
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,320
Speaker 3: players are beat writers your primary source for that in

600
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 3: terms of just following news or are you looking at

601
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:28,280
Speaker 3: it just from a pure they have holes? Here here's

602
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,600
Speaker 3: WHAT i project will be a.

603
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: Point beat writers for sure for these types of. Bets

604
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: one hundred percent got, it?

605
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 3: Okay and THAT'S i. Mean i'm not trying to take

606
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,320
Speaker 3: away from what you. Do i'm just saying that's attainable

607
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:41,960
Speaker 3: from a. Listener oh, yeah you.

608
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:42,240
Speaker 6: Know what you.

609
00:30:42,280 --> 00:30:46,040
Speaker 1: Mean betting on the draft is one hundred percent taking

610
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 1: information from others and digesting it into betible. Angles like

611
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:54,160
Speaker 1: they aren't writing their articles based off of what bets. Are,

612
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 1: great they're writing them based on whose contracts are, expiring

613
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: what POSITION i need saying the press, conference and you

614
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: just got to take that and recycle it into what

615
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 1: is the best bet based off?

616
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 3: That so you mean that The Tampa Bay times isn't

617
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 3: in business For vegas, refunds betting.

618
00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 2: Interests that's they should be everyone for.

619
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:21,600
Speaker 3: Us, okay very good And tampa along THEIR d Line

620
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 3: Vida veya's, back but they've got some, uh they've got

621
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 3: to get some depth in. THERE i think that makes

622
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 3: sense for their, defense which is their strength of their

623
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 3: team as of right. Now travis will go back to

624
00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 3: you and we'll, uh we'll continue. Here what else you?

625
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 4: Got all? Right so this one's not based in. INFORMATION

626
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,960
Speaker 4: i would say this is more of a gut, CALL

627
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 4: i think than some of my other. Ones but over

628
00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 4: two and a half tight ends in the first, Round

629
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,880
Speaker 4: mayor And kincaid are kind of the guys that we,

630
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,280
Speaker 4: Know so it's really just is it going to Be Darnell,

631
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 4: washington Although i've seen a mock or two that have

632
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 4: Even Luke musgrave sneak into the first, Round and it's

633
00:31:58,680 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 4: really about that kind of, again that back, five, six

634
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 4: seven teams in the first. Round The bengals he, mentioned you,

635
00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 4: know they could reach on the third tight end if

636
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 4: they decide they want to go that. DIRECTION i think

637
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 4: The chiefs with the last pick in the first round

638
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 4: could easily take a tight end With, kelsey you, know getting,

639
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 4: older maybe try to draft his, replacement you, know in

640
00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 4: the first. Round so there's a few, spots and there's

641
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:26,040
Speaker 4: a lot of teams where tight end is a big.

642
00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:30,680
Speaker 4: NEED i, Mean detroit is you know even. Earlier dallas needs,

643
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,120
Speaker 4: one Green bay needs. One there's a lot of teams

644
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 4: where they literally don't have a very good starting tight

645
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,440
Speaker 4: end right. Now if the season started, Tomorrow SO i

646
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 4: think we could see tight end go a little bit

647
00:32:41,480 --> 00:32:44,920
Speaker 4: earlier and then force one of these third guys into

648
00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 4: the first. Round And Don Soucker, CRAFT i, mean obviously

649
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 4: he could do.

650
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,760
Speaker 3: We, needed we Needed Tucker craft. Update.

651
00:32:57,520 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 5: Interesting it's interesting That musgrave is plus six point fifty

652
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 5: to be a first round, pick But washington's plus two.

653
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 5: HUNDRED i think If travis is, On i'd probably just

654
00:33:06,560 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 5: take the plus two hundred On, washington hoping That musgrave

655
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 5: isn't the guy because he's he's been kind of mocked

656
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 5: a little bit lower than, that AND i think if

657
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,720
Speaker 5: he wins his, bet it's Probably.

658
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,719
Speaker 4: Washington so, yeah the only SO i looked at, That

659
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 4: but the odds for the over two and a half

660
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 4: is plus one ninety, eight so it's basically the same,

661
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 4: Beggar So i'm Gonna i'm gonna lose the two cents

662
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 4: on the price there just in case it is Musk.

663
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: Grave so that's, fine that's. Good that's a good, note

664
00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 3: and that's good to point. Out and our Friend Tucker

665
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:39,120
Speaker 3: craft is still at one hundred to one, too no steam.

666
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:43,400
Speaker 3: Yet it's the first tight end. Drafted having anything else

667
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: to weigh in on there from a tight end perspective

668
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,560
Speaker 3: with there's been a lot of, discussion more so not

669
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: as much, lately but very much so early in mock

670
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 3: draft season and a big board.

671
00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,120
Speaker 5: SEASON i think the only thing with tight ends that

672
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 5: really fascinates me is just the range of. Cankd, LIKE

673
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:04,360
Speaker 5: i think people are mocking him in the thirties and

674
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 5: then you see some people talking about the fact that

675
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 5: he could go to Like Green bay at. Thirteen SO

676
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 5: i don't know if there's another player that has like

677
00:34:11,800 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 5: such a wide range of. Outcomes as, HIM i think

678
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 5: the two and a half, though is kind of right

679
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 5: in the sense THAT i think if you looked at

680
00:34:20,200 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 5: that many, DRAFTS i would Say washington And musgrave probably

681
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 5: don't make it into the first round for a number of.

682
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 5: Reasons SO i think the number is probably. Right and

683
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 5: like you, said it was a gut. Call but to,

684
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 5: Me King kaid the most interesting In.

685
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:38,280
Speaker 3: Kaid draft position At fandel the over juice to minus

686
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:41,520
Speaker 3: one thirty twenty four and a. Half mayor is at

687
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 3: twenty one and a, half and as of, now it's

688
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 3: ALL i see for that market At fandel right, Now

689
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 3: so over twenty four and a, half team selecting at twenty,

690
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:58,319
Speaker 3: Three Minnesota jacksonville's at twenty, four and as you guys,

691
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 3: Mentioned Kansas city bottom of the first, Round cincinnati, possibly

692
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:07,719
Speaker 3: but As luke, said he likes defensive Line, DALLAS i,

693
00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 3: mean Is dallas in the we. Talked we talked About

694
00:35:09,920 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 3: dallas quite a, bit the bijon Hype texas Kid Jerry

695
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 3: jones would love. It but a why AM i drawing

696
00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 3: a blank on the tight ends name that they lost

697
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 3: To Houston, Schultz Dalton, schultz thank you very, Much Dalton schultz,

698
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 3: gone Is dallas in the market for a Tight So

699
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 3: i'm trying to figure Out travis based on your bet

700
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 3: over two and a half you Mentioned Kansas. City are

701
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:35,920
Speaker 3: you banking On dallas to be one of those teams

702
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 3: to help fulfill your your needs? Here, YEAH i.

703
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,879
Speaker 4: WOULD i wouldn't say, banking but they're Definitely i'm. Optimistic

704
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 4: that's the. Possibilities, yeah it's. Hard Jerry jones could do

705
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,920
Speaker 4: anything so AND i think he's usually making the final

706
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 4: decision and for a lot of, these so he could

707
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:57,960
Speaker 4: go a bunch of different. Directions he's probably the One

708
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 4: i'm most scared of for the over one half running

709
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 4: backs because he'll just, say screw the, Analytics i'm taking

710
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 4: the GUY i, want so come.

711
00:36:07,160 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 3: On he's got to have learned his LESSON i think

712
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 3: from THE z, contract, RIGHT i would like to, think

713
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:15,640
Speaker 3: BUT i. Don't then, again it's true because you could

714
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,279
Speaker 3: draft him and he's got five years of control and

715
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,680
Speaker 3: it's not THE z, contract so you might Be, yeah

716
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 3: you might be pessimistic in the proper, way but optimistic

717
00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 3: that they take a tight.

718
00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 4: End, yeah but tight ends definitely need for. Them Green

719
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,959
Speaker 4: bay gets mocked tight ends quite a. Bit they're usually

720
00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 4: the first one off the. Board so, yeah there's and

721
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 4: then there's also the wild cards teams that take tight

722
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 4: ends that you did not expect to take a tight

723
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 4: end at. All so we'll see On, thursday there's going

724
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 4: to be a bunch of team needs and then somebody's

725
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 4: going to take one of these players that do not

726
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,400
Speaker 4: fit a team need at all just because they're the

727
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 4: highest graded on their board and they're just going to

728
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 4: take him.

729
00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 3: Anyway so If Green bay decides to take tight end at,

730
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:01,920
Speaker 3: thirteen they're really reaching based on the over unders For

731
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:02,759
Speaker 3: mayor And.

732
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:06,879
Speaker 4: Kaid, yeah and they could be a trade back candidate as,

733
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 4: well but, YEAH.

734
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:14,000
Speaker 3: I wouldn't like that for MY jsn love at. Thirteen

735
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 3: SO i.

736
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 5: Mean Brennan cowboys is a tight end plus one seventy

737
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 5: five favorite right, Now and, Honestly kaid's kind of being

738
00:37:22,880 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 5: mocked there and a lot Of i'm, Sorry mayor's being

739
00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 5: mocked there and a lot of, them AND i think it's,

740
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,880
Speaker 5: possible AND i think that numbers moved a, tons so

741
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 5: even at that, price it's. Interesting but, Yeah.

742
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: Okay so that's it For. Travis his bets are. Done

743
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:40,200
Speaker 3: he's got and he's given. Out if you want to

744
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:42,520
Speaker 3: go back and listen to previous, episodes he's given out other.

745
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,120
Speaker 3: Stuff now, AGAIN i WILL i will caution numbers have,

746
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:49,480
Speaker 3: changed odds have. Changed an EXAMPLE i referenced earlier he

747
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 3: had over five and a half defensive backs in the first.

748
00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:55,560
Speaker 3: Round that number now is significantly juiced at minus one

749
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 3: eighty eight to the Over luke anything else that you

750
00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: want to give out, Here.

751
00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go two. More i'll just go back to.

752
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: Back it was the first, one and this one Is

753
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: Los Angeles rams first, position and this one is just

754
00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,839
Speaker 1: like we're their first picks in the second, round And

755
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 1: i'm gonna go with wide receiver plus eight point, fifty

756
00:38:16,200 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: which you see some things about, them potentially one to

757
00:38:18,760 --> 00:38:21,480
Speaker 1: come up for a wide receiver trade, up WHICH i

758
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 1: really have no idea what they have left to trade up.

759
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 1: With but at eight, fifty, like AND i was, like

760
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,279
Speaker 1: as we were going through the last, PICK i was

761
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: just looking through odds AND i just saw a wide

762
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: Receiver rams eight to fifty and it was a spur

763
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: of the moment pick That i'll be.

764
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:35,960
Speaker 2: Taken we get.

765
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 1: Off but when you're the second, round anything is on the,

766
00:38:39,360 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: table and you have the beat. Writers you have seen

767
00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: rumors about trading up and needing a wide, receiver and

768
00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:48,480
Speaker 1: they Lost Alan, robinson who is washed, anyway did you

769
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 1: ever show up?

770
00:38:49,160 --> 00:38:49,359
Speaker 3: There?

771
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah?

772
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 1: Where, yeah at eight, Fifty i'll go with wide, receiver

773
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,720
Speaker 1: and then my second one is going to Be Miami,

774
00:38:56,760 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 1: dolphins another second. Rounder first. Position i'm gonna go with

775
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: tight end at plus four. Thirty and this is one

776
00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: WHERE i was reading something last night about coaches comments

777
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,359
Speaker 1: and offensive line somewhat being off the table in the second,

778
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,080
Speaker 1: round which the first pick is at fifty, one which

779
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: that is the, favorite and then basically tight end being in,

780
00:39:18,360 --> 00:39:23,480
Speaker 1: need where you Have kiseki on The patriots, now and

781
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: then you have the crop of tight ends that everything

782
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 1: you read is there's five of, them and we got

783
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 1: the top two and then these three that you can

784
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 1: make an argument that they could go in the first

785
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:33,719
Speaker 1: round in any other.

786
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,680
Speaker 2: Draft when we get to fifty, one it's a.

787
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:38,400
Speaker 1: Need you read everything about offensive line not being the,

788
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: case and it just seems like a great value at

789
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 1: plus four thirty in the second. Round that, YEAH i,

790
00:39:45,880 --> 00:39:49,920
Speaker 1: mean it's just on. Fandle these are great odds relative

791
00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,240
Speaker 1: to where it is. Elsewhere So durham is a. Smith

792
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:55,360
Speaker 1: durham smith their.

793
00:39:55,239 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 2: Tight end smith exactly exactly is he their? GUY i,

794
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:02,359
Speaker 2: mean that is exactly why we're making this. Bet.

795
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 3: WELL i guess What i'm getting at is that you've

796
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 3: gathered that they don't think he's the.

797
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: Guy, YEAH i would, hope AND i mean you gotta

798
00:40:11,239 --> 00:40:13,360
Speaker 1: and and you got a team that it just seems

799
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: like they're always trying to add weapons on the offensive,

800
00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: side especially with THE Afc east being where it is.

801
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,240
Speaker 1: Now And yesse was, great but he's gone and.

802
00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,960
Speaker 3: Okay but didn't by the, way it's smithe Isn't that

803
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,880
Speaker 3: Why kasiki left, though because he wasn't utilized in that

804
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 3: Offense With hill And. Waddle they won't get locking tight end,

805
00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,680
Speaker 3: THOUGH i, mean WHICH i guess they could still take

806
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,120
Speaker 3: one that makes, sense, Right, yeah.

807
00:40:39,320 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: Which would be who knows Even washington we're hoping watching

808
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 1: goes in the first but The Porta, musgrave the guy

809
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:52,240
Speaker 1: out Of North Dakota State. Craft there's just a plethora

810
00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: of options to make the case that they could take

811
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: at fifty one unique to this, draft like everyone you see,

812
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 1: says the deepest. Draft so if we get to fifty,

813
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 1: one like being worried about one of the tight ends

814
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 1: being worthy of that pick not being. There it shouldn't

815
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,720
Speaker 1: be the case unless we just go tight, end unless

816
00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 1: there's just a crazy run of tight.

817
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 2: Ends so, yeah.

818
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: All, right haven't you got thoughts there on the potential

819
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: of what receivers might look like early second? Round and

820
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,439
Speaker 3: by the, way The rams do have the fifth pick

821
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,440
Speaker 3: of the second. Round it Goes Pittsburgh. Houston Maybe Hendon

822
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:31,879
Speaker 3: hooker at that spot unless he goes in the first,

823
00:41:31,920 --> 00:41:34,439
Speaker 3: round of, Course Arizona indian and The rams are at thirty.

824
00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 5: Six, yeah let's, say, yeah, perfect got to hit all

825
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 5: of our bets right, now so we could do under

826
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,799
Speaker 5: three and a half wide receivers first. Round we could

827
00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 5: Take quinton the over twenty six and a, half but

828
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 5: Have Quinton land to The rams at sixteen to. ONE

829
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 5: i think he's a type of wide receiver that goes.

830
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 5: LONG i think it's possible they could look at. HIM

831
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 5: i wonder What luke thinks about, that but it's sixteen

832
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 5: to one odds considering they would want a, weapon and

833
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,000
Speaker 5: we think that someone that can fall a little bit

834
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:05,080
Speaker 5: out of the first. ROUND i think it's an interesting.

835
00:42:05,160 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 5: Thought and just to tie a note here, again The

836
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 5: rams haven't had a first round pick Since Jared goff twenty.

837
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,480
Speaker 5: Sixteen unless they make a deal with the first round this,

838
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:16,520
Speaker 5: year they'll become the first team to go seven straight

839
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 5: years without a first round pick Since washington in eighty

840
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 5: four to. Ninety so literally. Insane it's been, Forever AND

841
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 5: i think it makes. Sense you're trying to go for

842
00:42:24,480 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 5: a weapon and the guy could, Fall so at sixteen to,

843
00:42:26,840 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 5: One i'm willing to take a flyer.

844
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 1: There.

845
00:42:29,120 --> 00:42:30,680
Speaker 2: YEAH i THINK i mentioned that on the show last

846
00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 2: week Where quin.

847
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: Was you start to feel That quint was falling and

848
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: looking Into quinn specific team odds which have been there,

849
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: forever which are priced out for him to go in

850
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: the first round to the wide receiver needy. Teams there

851
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: was a ton of value down low based off of

852
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: if he does fall into the second, round second, round

853
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 1: where the teams at the start of the second round

854
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:57,840
Speaker 1: are the teams in the.

855
00:42:56,360 --> 00:42:58,439
Speaker 2: Top ten of the first that they weren't priced out.

856
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:02,080
Speaker 2: For so, YEAH i like.

857
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:06,000
Speaker 3: IT i like it makes some. Sense so And houston

858
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:08,400
Speaker 3: has the same, Odds arizona has the same, odds and

859
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,720
Speaker 3: that those two teams are right right, There houston thirty,

860
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 3: Three arizona thirty, Four.

861
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 5: Pep AND i have The colts to trade The. Hopkins

862
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 5: it could be the whole deal right. There they get

863
00:43:19,840 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 5: rid of, him they go To. QUENTIN i mean, again

864
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 5: either of those three, teams, honestly to, me kind of

865
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Speaker 5: range WHICH i think all three of us agree is

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Speaker 5: probably the case with the other three wide receivers on

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Speaker 5: the other side of.

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Speaker 2: It so.

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Speaker 3: That's our thoughts. AGREED i kind of want The colts

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Speaker 3: to Take Quentin johnston so they can get The Jim, Ursay, Hey,

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Speaker 3: quinton what's?

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Speaker 2: Up? Man like that thing? Again that would just be

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Speaker 2: that would be.

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Speaker 3: Phenomenal but they called it and that's a reference To

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Speaker 3: Quentin nelson when The colts drafted them a couple of years. Ago,

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Speaker 3: okay so let's let's recap THE i feel like we're

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Speaker 3: oh it's. Phenomenal, Okay so here's What luke's. Got luke's

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Speaker 3: got will go right in order of how these guys

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Speaker 3: gave him. Out luke's on The eagles to draft D

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Speaker 3: line with their first. PICK i didn't catch the. Odds

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Speaker 3: you got to the plus money, Though what did you

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Speaker 3: get for the odds for that one for The eagles

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Speaker 3: pick uh?

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Speaker 2: One? Suck SORRY i put you on the spot. There

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Speaker 2: i'd say it's plus one seventy five, now.

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Speaker 3: Okay plus one seventy. Five travis is on under one

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Speaker 3: and a half running backs in the first round at

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Speaker 3: plus one fifty. Eight luke likes The bengals defensive line

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Speaker 3: with their first pick plus three to Fifty. Travis luke's

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Speaker 3: on this. Two travis Got Quentin, johnson the wide receiver

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Speaker 3: out OF tcu over twenty six and a half draft

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Speaker 3: position plus one twenty. Eight luke's on the tip Of

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Speaker 3: Bay buccaneers to take D line with their first. Pick

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Speaker 3: travis is on over two and a half tight ends

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Speaker 3: first round plus one ninety, eight and Then luke's got

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Speaker 3: two more four rams to take a wide receiver with

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Speaker 3: their first pick they're drafting early second. Round that numbers

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Speaker 3: at plus eight point, fifty which is the seventh position

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Speaker 3: in the order of the. Odds so that's A it's

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Speaker 3: a dart, throat BUT i love it makes a lot of,

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Speaker 3: sense and then The luke's got one More dolphins tight

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Speaker 3: end with their first pick at plus four. Thirty all,

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Speaker 3: right any lasting thoughts before we?

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Speaker 2: Go we? Good, well good luck to.

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Speaker 5: Us, yeah that's what it.

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Speaker 2: Is love, It.

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Speaker 3: Travis anything to add before we?

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Speaker 4: GO i wish the draft started like five minutes from,

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Speaker 4: Now Like i'm ready to, go.

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Speaker 3: All right and work everybody more days too? Long one

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Speaker 3: More as a, reminder we will have more draft coverage

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Speaker 3: here on The Action network. Podcast we are going to

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Speaker 3: come out with Some day two coverage Early friday. Morning

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Speaker 3: we're going to get Together thursday night and give you

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Speaker 3: anything we can On day, two, which of course rounds

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Speaker 3: two and three take place On, friday And i'm actually

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Speaker 3: kind of fascinated because of some things hit From thursday.

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Speaker 3: Night then we're going to be riding some stuff Into friday,

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Speaker 3: evening So i'm actually really excited for. That so we'll

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Speaker 3: have a brief episode out For day two. Coverage any

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Speaker 3: picks we can give, out we, will and if, anything

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Speaker 3: they'll just be sort of a reaction episode two to

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Speaker 3: what happened On, thursday but mostly picks For, friday because

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