1 00:00:04,795 --> 00:00:21,915 Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. The 2 00:00:22,235 --> 00:00:25,075 Speaker 1: lock her Up crowd thought they were being very clear 3 00:00:25,115 --> 00:00:28,515 Speaker 1: about this, explicitly clear. They don't know how you got 4 00:00:28,555 --> 00:00:31,075 Speaker 1: it so wrong. They need to speak to the manager. 5 00:00:31,235 --> 00:00:35,915 Speaker 1: They have to talk with Q personally. It's lock her up, 6 00:00:36,035 --> 00:00:40,195 Speaker 1: not lock him up. We're members of the leopards who 7 00:00:40,195 --> 00:00:43,115 Speaker 1: eat people's faces party. The leopard is not permitted to 8 00:00:43,115 --> 00:00:50,595 Speaker 1: eat our faces. The fascist orgasm of naked pusillanimous fear 9 00:00:50,795 --> 00:00:54,195 Speaker 1: over the rumors of Trump's arrest tomorrow, rumors still one 10 00:00:55,075 --> 00:00:59,195 Speaker 1: radiating only from Trump and actually contradicted by many facts 11 00:00:59,195 --> 00:01:04,835 Speaker 1: from other quarters. That fascist orgasm of fear is worth 12 00:01:04,875 --> 00:01:10,475 Speaker 1: it just by its own self. They have all operated 13 00:01:10,595 --> 00:01:14,435 Speaker 1: so long, so illegally, with so much impunity, that for 14 00:01:14,555 --> 00:01:18,795 Speaker 1: many Trump cultists, this is a time so unimaginable that 15 00:01:18,835 --> 00:01:20,995 Speaker 1: most of them expect to wake up and find out 16 00:01:21,035 --> 00:01:25,395 Speaker 1: it was all a terrifying, appalling, inconceivable dream, and that 17 00:01:25,395 --> 00:01:28,435 Speaker 1: that skid mark is just a trick of the light. 18 00:01:30,115 --> 00:01:35,435 Speaker 1: And most importantly, there is their principal response, their repeated threat, 19 00:01:35,515 --> 00:01:39,715 Speaker 1: their dire warning, their primary directive. It is the same 20 00:01:39,755 --> 00:01:43,755 Speaker 1: response from everybody in the never right but never in 21 00:01:43,875 --> 00:01:47,755 Speaker 1: doubt crowd running the gamut from Elon, I have now 22 00:01:47,835 --> 00:01:52,875 Speaker 1: given Twitter an automatic Pooh emoji function. Musk to Kevin. 23 00:01:53,635 --> 00:01:56,355 Speaker 1: Now that you mention it, I guess I am obstructing 24 00:01:56,395 --> 00:02:00,595 Speaker 1: justice by threatening the da McCarthy to MAGA lawyer Joe 25 00:02:00,715 --> 00:02:05,355 Speaker 1: McBride claiming Trump is comparable today to Mark Luther King 26 00:02:05,395 --> 00:02:07,635 Speaker 1: in March nineteen sixty eight, which you really should have 27 00:02:07,675 --> 00:02:10,755 Speaker 1: googled first, because it's a really bad analogy. For drump 28 00:02:11,955 --> 00:02:15,435 Speaker 1: It is the same muted or not so muted or 29 00:02:15,595 --> 00:02:19,875 Speaker 1: explicit violent threat that this will bring blood and war 30 00:02:19,995 --> 00:02:22,795 Speaker 1: and revenge, and we'll crash the economy, and we'll take 31 00:02:22,835 --> 00:02:24,915 Speaker 1: over the Blue States, and we'll surround Trump with a 32 00:02:25,035 --> 00:02:28,235 Speaker 1: human moat so you can't arrest him. And you'll see 33 00:02:28,235 --> 00:02:31,835 Speaker 1: in proud Boys and JFK Junior and military tribunals in 34 00:02:31,995 --> 00:02:35,835 Speaker 1: Jesus and never ending retribution and tyranny and whistleblowers and 35 00:02:35,955 --> 00:02:39,315 Speaker 1: help Bobi wan Kenobi, You're my only hope. And what 36 00:02:39,515 --> 00:02:52,915 Speaker 1: will actually happen is nothing. You heard me. Nothing. Bullies, 37 00:02:53,475 --> 00:02:56,875 Speaker 1: especially bullies who have been getting away with bullying so 38 00:02:56,915 --> 00:02:59,235 Speaker 1: long that they have lost touch with the reality that 39 00:02:59,275 --> 00:03:01,195 Speaker 1: every once in a while, the victim stands up and 40 00:03:01,275 --> 00:03:05,075 Speaker 1: knocks the bully out cold with one punch. Have no 41 00:03:05,195 --> 00:03:08,235 Speaker 1: frame of reference in a world in which Donald Trump 42 00:03:08,355 --> 00:03:13,355 Speaker 1: is arrested, none to the small degree they've actually ever 43 00:03:13,395 --> 00:03:20,195 Speaker 1: thought about it or anything else. Trump to them is inviolable, untouchable, unbeatable. 44 00:03:20,915 --> 00:03:23,795 Speaker 1: They don't know what to do, and they don't know 45 00:03:23,835 --> 00:03:27,795 Speaker 1: how to do it, like most conservatives and thieves, and 46 00:03:27,875 --> 00:03:31,195 Speaker 1: they are conservative thieves after all, The idea has never 47 00:03:31,355 --> 00:03:35,155 Speaker 1: crossed their mind that they could get caught, and the 48 00:03:35,275 --> 00:03:41,195 Speaker 1: few who can think straight today are already realizing the implication. 49 00:03:41,555 --> 00:03:45,035 Speaker 1: If the ringleader can be arrested, that means something much 50 00:03:45,115 --> 00:03:49,355 Speaker 1: much more important. It means they themselves can be arrested. 51 00:03:51,795 --> 00:03:55,635 Speaker 1: Whatever else the Trump cult has accomplished, whatever else the 52 00:03:55,675 --> 00:04:00,035 Speaker 1: Trump cult has destroyed, The Trump cult is not a 53 00:04:00,115 --> 00:04:03,915 Speaker 1: cult of self sacrifice and collective action. This is a 54 00:04:03,955 --> 00:04:07,955 Speaker 1: group of ni hilists who can't spell nihilism and who 55 00:04:07,955 --> 00:04:10,515 Speaker 1: are in it for the grift and the power. It 56 00:04:10,675 --> 00:04:13,995 Speaker 1: is a cult dependent on one tent pole, and one 57 00:04:14,115 --> 00:04:17,435 Speaker 1: tent pole alone. And Trump has always made sure that 58 00:04:17,515 --> 00:04:20,315 Speaker 1: nobody gets to stand too close to him in case 59 00:04:20,315 --> 00:04:23,955 Speaker 1: he loses one one millionth of the credit. And if 60 00:04:24,035 --> 00:04:29,035 Speaker 1: history teaches us anything about one man cults, from Julius 61 00:04:29,075 --> 00:04:34,715 Speaker 1: Caesar to Huey Long to Jim Jones, it is that 62 00:04:34,835 --> 00:04:38,515 Speaker 1: the moment the strong man proves fallible, there is only 63 00:04:38,595 --> 00:04:43,035 Speaker 1: one reaction common to all the subservient figures who survive 64 00:04:43,155 --> 00:04:47,115 Speaker 1: in the cult. They immediately begin the process of denying, 65 00:04:47,195 --> 00:04:49,755 Speaker 1: insisting and absolutely proving that they were never in the cult. 66 00:04:49,755 --> 00:04:52,635 Speaker 1: They were only kidding, They were just monitoring it for violence. 67 00:04:52,675 --> 00:04:55,635 Speaker 1: They were auditing. Ed help me, Obi wan kenobi, You're 68 00:04:55,675 --> 00:05:00,915 Speaker 1: my only hope. Many will disagree with me here and say, 69 00:05:00,955 --> 00:05:03,995 Speaker 1: the threat of violence, I mean, other than the possible 70 00:05:04,075 --> 00:05:07,155 Speaker 1: risk we all run by being trampled by people running 71 00:05:07,195 --> 00:05:10,835 Speaker 1: away from Trump. The risk of violence is a tangible one, 72 00:05:10,915 --> 00:05:13,515 Speaker 1: they say, And I disagree, but I respect that argument. 73 00:05:14,475 --> 00:05:18,635 Speaker 1: But even that argument neglects something larger. The belief that 74 00:05:18,675 --> 00:05:23,395 Speaker 1: Trumps take our nation back threat is he is instigating 75 00:05:23,435 --> 00:05:26,275 Speaker 1: his cult to violence if he really is perp walked 76 00:05:26,355 --> 00:05:29,755 Speaker 1: Tuesday or anytime, neglects the stark reality that for eight 77 00:05:29,835 --> 00:05:33,795 Speaker 1: years he's already been instigating his cult to violence, and 78 00:05:33,835 --> 00:05:36,915 Speaker 1: that he will continue instigating his cult to violence even 79 00:05:36,915 --> 00:05:40,635 Speaker 1: if he isn't arrested. What's the difference. This is the 80 00:05:40,675 --> 00:05:46,795 Speaker 1: creature who instigated January sixth. Somebody is only now considering 81 00:05:46,795 --> 00:05:49,355 Speaker 1: the possibility Trump might try to get his minions to 82 00:05:49,395 --> 00:05:54,115 Speaker 1: act violently on his behalf. That's all they do. Arresting 83 00:05:54,195 --> 00:05:57,115 Speaker 1: him is going to fire up his base. Not arresting 84 00:05:57,195 --> 00:06:01,555 Speaker 1: him is going to fire up his base. The other 85 00:06:01,635 --> 00:06:06,035 Speaker 1: conventional thinking here is also wildly flawed. Depending on the 86 00:06:06,075 --> 00:06:10,715 Speaker 1: amount of cool aid imbibed, it goes this way, and 87 00:06:10,915 --> 00:06:13,355 Speaker 1: arrest of Trump will either guarantee him the nomination or 88 00:06:13,355 --> 00:06:15,915 Speaker 1: guarantee him the nomination and hand him the White House. 89 00:06:16,755 --> 00:06:20,675 Speaker 1: To the first point, he's running for president next year. 90 00:06:21,555 --> 00:06:26,315 Speaker 1: He already said so. And the Republican nominee is thus 91 00:06:26,395 --> 00:06:31,715 Speaker 1: going to be Ron DeSantis, a tiny man in high 92 00:06:31,715 --> 00:06:38,315 Speaker 1: healed shoes in a party persecuting drag queens. Really, it's 93 00:06:38,355 --> 00:06:41,275 Speaker 1: going to be Mike Pence, who yesterday tried to get 94 00:06:41,275 --> 00:06:44,315 Speaker 1: away with saying on national television that the Stormy Daniel's 95 00:06:44,395 --> 00:06:47,395 Speaker 1: payoff happened before he joined the Trump ticket, and then 96 00:06:47,475 --> 00:06:50,675 Speaker 1: John Carl reminded him it happened just two weeks before 97 00:06:50,675 --> 00:06:54,275 Speaker 1: the election. Pence is going to be the nominee Nicky 98 00:06:54,395 --> 00:07:01,835 Speaker 1: Hailey Pompeo. Is anybody actually assuming Trump will not be 99 00:07:01,955 --> 00:07:06,475 Speaker 1: the nominee and say he's not, He will run as 100 00:07:06,515 --> 00:07:10,035 Speaker 1: a third party candidate. He has to his ego, cannot 101 00:07:10,075 --> 00:07:14,915 Speaker 1: let him lose. Whether he's arrested Tuesday or not, getting 102 00:07:15,035 --> 00:07:18,115 Speaker 1: reelected is his only chance of not going to a 103 00:07:18,235 --> 00:07:27,315 Speaker 1: supermax penitentiary and dying there while incarcerated. I appreciate that 104 00:07:27,515 --> 00:07:31,755 Speaker 1: eight years of the abuse of our intelligence, our humanity, 105 00:07:32,035 --> 00:07:35,955 Speaker 1: our sense of history, our common sense, and our ethics 106 00:07:36,115 --> 00:07:38,915 Speaker 1: has worn us down. It has gotten us all thinking 107 00:07:38,955 --> 00:07:42,155 Speaker 1: a little bit like the Trump cultists actually think, wondering 108 00:07:42,195 --> 00:07:48,115 Speaker 1: if they might be right, even a little. But their 109 00:07:48,435 --> 00:07:52,195 Speaker 1: same logic that says Trump getting arrested guarantees he'll be 110 00:07:52,195 --> 00:07:56,715 Speaker 1: elected next year demands that there can be one and 111 00:07:56,835 --> 00:08:00,795 Speaker 1: only one Democratic nominee in twenty twenty four, and that 112 00:08:00,955 --> 00:08:08,115 Speaker 1: man is Hunter Biden. If, as The Guardian reports, it 113 00:08:08,235 --> 00:08:12,235 Speaker 1: is Trump's own idea to make sure he surrenders in person, 114 00:08:12,315 --> 00:08:15,475 Speaker 1: in public to the Manhattan DA and hell, get the 115 00:08:15,555 --> 00:08:19,355 Speaker 1: President and his son, Hunter and his wife, and Vice 116 00:08:19,355 --> 00:08:22,715 Speaker 1: President Harris and her husband and have them all surrenders 117 00:08:22,755 --> 00:08:27,155 Speaker 1: somewhere for something and then attached them like a chain gang. 118 00:08:28,115 --> 00:08:31,755 Speaker 1: They'll all become president. I mean back to the first 119 00:08:31,795 --> 00:08:37,075 Speaker 1: point here, getting arrested means he becomes president. Lock her up? 120 00:08:37,115 --> 00:08:39,795 Speaker 1: Did that get Hillary Clinton elected? And I missed it 121 00:08:39,915 --> 00:08:45,195 Speaker 1: or what owen? By the way, there is little actual 122 00:08:45,315 --> 00:08:48,435 Speaker 1: evidence that Trump will be arrested, at least that he'll 123 00:08:48,475 --> 00:08:51,955 Speaker 1: be arrested tomorrow, because there may be one last witness 124 00:08:52,035 --> 00:08:54,635 Speaker 1: for the Stormy Daniel's grand jury to hear because Trump 125 00:08:54,675 --> 00:08:58,435 Speaker 1: reportedly wants one of his eleventy billion attorneys to impeach 126 00:08:58,475 --> 00:09:01,875 Speaker 1: the credibility of one of his eleventy billion X attorneys. 127 00:09:02,795 --> 00:09:06,315 Speaker 1: Michael Cohen, the bagman in the annuals payoff, discussed hiring 128 00:09:06,355 --> 00:09:09,875 Speaker 1: somebody named Robert J. Costello in twenty eighteen, and a 129 00:09:10,035 --> 00:09:12,795 Speaker 1: pardon was brought up, and then it disappeared, and Cohen 130 00:09:12,835 --> 00:09:15,955 Speaker 1: didn't hire Costello, and Costello sent Cohen a bill, and 131 00:09:16,035 --> 00:09:18,715 Speaker 1: Cohen didn't pay the bill. And in Trump world, not 132 00:09:18,995 --> 00:09:22,195 Speaker 1: paying your bill is the worst crime of all. It's 133 00:09:22,235 --> 00:09:27,075 Speaker 1: worse than murder unless it's Trump who didn't pay the bill. 134 00:09:28,235 --> 00:09:31,555 Speaker 1: And also, oh, by the way, I always end these 135 00:09:31,595 --> 00:09:34,995 Speaker 1: podcasts by saying, arrest Trump now while we still can't 136 00:09:35,115 --> 00:09:39,395 Speaker 1: let me just add something to that. Today, arrest Trump today, 137 00:09:40,075 --> 00:09:46,715 Speaker 1: arrest Trump, tomorrow, arrest Trump forever. But even in that context, 138 00:09:47,515 --> 00:09:51,315 Speaker 1: I don't think this story, or even Trump getting arrested 139 00:09:51,355 --> 00:09:54,915 Speaker 1: in this case tomorrow or otherwise, and then getting arrested 140 00:09:54,915 --> 00:09:57,475 Speaker 1: in ten other cases in the weeks to come, I 141 00:09:57,515 --> 00:10:00,195 Speaker 1: don't think that's the most important story of the moment, 142 00:10:00,235 --> 00:10:02,675 Speaker 1: not even the most important Trump's story of the moment. 143 00:10:03,595 --> 00:10:07,355 Speaker 1: The Evan core Ceran saga is way more important. But 144 00:10:07,475 --> 00:10:10,155 Speaker 1: you may not have heard about it because of all 145 00:10:10,235 --> 00:10:13,635 Speaker 1: the oxygen being long ago sucked out of the room 146 00:10:14,115 --> 00:10:16,835 Speaker 1: by the image of Trump the martyr trying to hammer 147 00:10:16,915 --> 00:10:24,355 Speaker 1: in that last nail himself. Friday was Judge Beryl Howell's 148 00:10:24,435 --> 00:10:26,955 Speaker 1: last day as the top judge in the District of Columbia, 149 00:10:26,995 --> 00:10:30,035 Speaker 1: and boy did she go out with a bang. The 150 00:10:30,195 --> 00:10:33,035 Speaker 1: judge's ruling that the Department of Justice had met the 151 00:10:33,035 --> 00:10:37,435 Speaker 1: threshold to override attorney client privilege and force Evan Corker 152 00:10:37,475 --> 00:10:40,715 Speaker 1: in to testify against Trump in the Marilago Documents, part 153 00:10:40,715 --> 00:10:45,835 Speaker 1: of Special Counsel Jacksmith's investigation. That was expected. What was 154 00:10:45,875 --> 00:10:51,195 Speaker 1: not expected was Judge Howell then handing federal prosecutors attorney 155 00:10:51,195 --> 00:10:56,115 Speaker 1: Corkeran's actual notes about his private communications with his client Trump. 156 00:10:56,675 --> 00:11:04,795 Speaker 1: Here's a recreation of that here. To do that, the 157 00:11:04,875 --> 00:11:07,515 Speaker 1: judge has to have determined that the notes are evidence 158 00:11:07,635 --> 00:11:11,755 Speaker 1: of a crime. The so called crime fraud exception applies here, 159 00:11:12,115 --> 00:11:14,035 Speaker 1: and we all know what the crime has to be, 160 00:11:14,555 --> 00:11:17,395 Speaker 1: and we all know who the fraud is because it 161 00:11:17,435 --> 00:11:20,355 Speaker 1: was Corkran who wrote the document last June that Christina 162 00:11:20,435 --> 00:11:24,275 Speaker 1: Bob signed that indicated that Trump had voluntarily turned over 163 00:11:24,395 --> 00:11:29,235 Speaker 1: all the stolen government classified documents at Marilago. The claim 164 00:11:29,315 --> 00:11:31,955 Speaker 1: was a lie, the document was a lie, and the 165 00:11:32,035 --> 00:11:36,035 Speaker 1: lawyer's notes clearly did something to prove that the lie 166 00:11:36,515 --> 00:11:43,395 Speaker 1: was Trump's keeping classified documents in your house is a crime, 167 00:11:43,995 --> 00:11:48,035 Speaker 1: even for a former president. Knowingly keeping classified documents in 168 00:11:48,075 --> 00:11:53,115 Speaker 1: your house is espionage, and forcing your attorneys to swear 169 00:11:53,275 --> 00:11:56,915 Speaker 1: false witness about it is another crime or two or thirty. 170 00:11:57,795 --> 00:12:01,555 Speaker 1: And frankly, that'll all make Trump's perp walk over Stormy 171 00:12:01,635 --> 00:12:04,475 Speaker 1: Daniels look like a quick dance in the spring rain. 172 00:12:06,995 --> 00:12:10,635 Speaker 1: And lastly, let me circle back to this threat of 173 00:12:10,795 --> 00:12:16,035 Speaker 1: trumpion violence. Something symbolic happened in Manhattan yesterday, and while 174 00:12:16,035 --> 00:12:20,355 Speaker 1: it's a little off the topic. It was just so spectacular. 175 00:12:20,955 --> 00:12:24,755 Speaker 1: It provided just such an amazing slogan or motto perhaps 176 00:12:24,755 --> 00:12:28,075 Speaker 1: for this entire shameful era in American history, that I 177 00:12:28,115 --> 00:12:31,915 Speaker 1: have to play this for you. The Proud Boys decided 178 00:12:31,995 --> 00:12:36,875 Speaker 1: to storm Drag Story Hour in Greenwich Village, as hosted 179 00:12:36,915 --> 00:12:39,955 Speaker 1: not by the New York County DA Alvin Bragg, but 180 00:12:40,115 --> 00:12:44,795 Speaker 1: by the New York State DA or Attorney General Letitia James, 181 00:12:45,275 --> 00:12:50,075 Speaker 1: and the drag queens beat the crap out of them. 182 00:12:51,275 --> 00:12:54,675 Speaker 1: There is a clip on Twitter a video from Freedom 183 00:12:54,715 --> 00:12:58,675 Speaker 1: News TV, a very good follow and the guy you 184 00:12:58,715 --> 00:13:02,035 Speaker 1: will hear speaking in the audio from it is identified 185 00:13:02,075 --> 00:13:04,435 Speaker 1: by Freedom News TV as a member of the Proud 186 00:13:04,475 --> 00:13:07,475 Speaker 1: boy I think they're right. The guy's claiming to be 187 00:13:07,475 --> 00:13:10,115 Speaker 1: an EMT, but he's not wearing any identification as a medic. 188 00:13:10,155 --> 00:13:13,235 Speaker 1: He's just wearing a fatigue cap. And he's being escorted 189 00:13:13,235 --> 00:13:16,595 Speaker 1: by another man in a hoodie with Proud Boys written 190 00:13:16,595 --> 00:13:20,555 Speaker 1: on it in big letters. Oh and this man has 191 00:13:21,155 --> 00:13:26,315 Speaker 1: blood all over his face because the drag Queens beat 192 00:13:26,395 --> 00:13:37,075 Speaker 1: the crap out of him. And there it is the 193 00:13:37,275 --> 00:13:40,195 Speaker 1: rallying cry for the Trump mob if and when he 194 00:13:40,315 --> 00:13:44,595 Speaker 1: is arrested Tuesday or whenever. Quote. I came here to 195 00:13:44,675 --> 00:13:47,675 Speaker 1: help people, not get the shit beat out of me. 196 00:14:01,275 --> 00:14:05,155 Speaker 1: Words to live by still ahead of us. In this 197 00:14:05,315 --> 00:14:07,155 Speaker 1: edition of Countdown, what did I tell you about the 198 00:14:07,195 --> 00:14:10,475 Speaker 1: Tucker Carlson January sixth gaslight video and how he got it? 199 00:14:10,955 --> 00:14:14,235 Speaker 1: Did I tell you Kevin McCarthy and Congressmen Brian's style 200 00:14:14,555 --> 00:14:17,835 Speaker 1: had to have tricked the Capitol Police into setting up 201 00:14:17,835 --> 00:14:19,755 Speaker 1: the viewing station that the cops were told was for 202 00:14:19,875 --> 00:14:23,195 Speaker 1: Congress only turned out it was for Tucker Carlson. Guess 203 00:14:23,355 --> 00:14:26,755 Speaker 1: what the attorney for the Capitol Police has just testified 204 00:14:26,795 --> 00:14:31,395 Speaker 1: to this is a huge story. Next, the media continues 205 00:14:31,435 --> 00:14:34,915 Speaker 1: to carve up CNN boss Chris Licked into Little Chris 206 00:14:34,955 --> 00:14:38,715 Speaker 1: Licked bite sized pieces. The man described last week as 207 00:14:38,795 --> 00:14:42,635 Speaker 1: CNN's captain. Ahab gets trashed again by The New York Times. 208 00:14:42,755 --> 00:14:44,995 Speaker 1: Not by me, but I like to think I got 209 00:14:45,035 --> 00:14:50,755 Speaker 1: this ball started. And Senator Marsha Blackburn speaks, And if 210 00:14:50,755 --> 00:14:52,955 Speaker 1: she's ever sounded to you like she was a refugee 211 00:14:52,995 --> 00:14:57,835 Speaker 1: from QVC or maybe local TV from the eighties, guess what, 212 00:14:58,515 --> 00:15:01,595 Speaker 1: She's a refugee from local TV from the eighties. When 213 00:15:01,675 --> 00:15:04,555 Speaker 1: she used to talk about big Rhyan stones and sequined 214 00:15:04,715 --> 00:15:08,755 Speaker 1: patterns and fun fun things to wear, and fascism is great. 215 00:15:10,035 --> 00:15:20,515 Speaker 1: First person's coming up. That's next. This is countdown. This 216 00:15:20,795 --> 00:15:27,475 Speaker 1: is Countdown with Keith old Woman. Postscripts to the news 217 00:15:27,515 --> 00:15:31,715 Speaker 1: some headlines, some update, some snarks, some predictions. Dateline Washington 218 00:15:31,875 --> 00:15:35,955 Speaker 1: told you so, told you So, told you. Capitol Police 219 00:15:35,995 --> 00:15:39,595 Speaker 1: were not allowed to vet the January sixth video that 220 00:15:39,675 --> 00:15:43,595 Speaker 1: Kevin McCarthy improperly gave to Tucker Carlson, and in fact, 221 00:15:43,675 --> 00:15:48,435 Speaker 1: McCarthy and Congressman Bryan's Style of Wisconsin scammed the Capitol 222 00:15:48,475 --> 00:15:52,075 Speaker 1: Hill Cops into setting up viewing stations the cops thought 223 00:15:52,155 --> 00:15:55,355 Speaker 1: were for members of the House, but were in fact 224 00:15:55,355 --> 00:15:59,235 Speaker 1: for the use of Carlson's little producer minions. Capitol Police 225 00:15:59,275 --> 00:16:02,435 Speaker 1: General Counsel Thomas D. Bass has filed a six page 226 00:16:02,475 --> 00:16:04,995 Speaker 1: document as part of a criminal case, and in it 227 00:16:05,355 --> 00:16:09,235 Speaker 1: he says, of the forty different video clips Carlson used 228 00:16:09,755 --> 00:16:12,515 Speaker 1: emphasized used, most of the clips are just a few 229 00:16:12,515 --> 00:16:15,835 Speaker 1: seconds each. The police got to see one of them 230 00:16:15,875 --> 00:16:19,555 Speaker 1: in advance. The other thirty nine quoting DBAs were never 231 00:16:19,595 --> 00:16:22,915 Speaker 1: shown to me nor anyone else from the Capitol Police, 232 00:16:23,515 --> 00:16:27,435 Speaker 1: and they asked McCarthy and Republicans again and again to 233 00:16:27,635 --> 00:16:30,195 Speaker 1: let them see the video that was going to Fox 234 00:16:30,315 --> 00:16:34,955 Speaker 1: first to assuage security, privacy, and decency concerns, and were 235 00:16:35,195 --> 00:16:39,795 Speaker 1: refused by the Speaker repeatedly. DBAs confirmed that the request 236 00:16:39,875 --> 00:16:43,275 Speaker 1: for access to the footage came first from McCarthy aide, 237 00:16:43,355 --> 00:16:48,435 Speaker 1: Tim Monaghan, and then from McCarthy's rookie henchman, Brian Style 238 00:16:48,475 --> 00:16:52,355 Speaker 1: of Wisconsin, the new chair of the House Administration Committee. Quote. 239 00:16:52,635 --> 00:16:55,355 Speaker 1: At no time was I nor anyone else from the 240 00:16:55,395 --> 00:16:59,115 Speaker 1: Capitol Police informed that anyone other than personnel from the 241 00:16:59,155 --> 00:17:03,395 Speaker 1: House Administration Committee would be reviewing the camera footage. The 242 00:17:03,475 --> 00:17:07,715 Speaker 1: next thing, the Capitol least new House Administration Committee staffers. 243 00:17:08,315 --> 00:17:13,355 Speaker 1: We're escorting Fox quote news unquote staffers to those viewing 244 00:17:13,395 --> 00:17:16,835 Speaker 1: stations set up by the Capitol Hill Police. Obviously it 245 00:17:16,875 --> 00:17:20,515 Speaker 1: will not go anywhere under a GOP majority. But somebody 246 00:17:20,555 --> 00:17:24,835 Speaker 1: needs to file ethics charges against McCarthy and Style, and 247 00:17:24,915 --> 00:17:28,435 Speaker 1: when the Democrats regain the House, drive these men who 248 00:17:28,475 --> 00:17:33,715 Speaker 1: have sold their offices to Rupert Burdock out of office forever. 249 00:17:47,035 --> 00:17:52,595 Speaker 1: This is Sports Center, Wait check that in not anymore. 250 00:17:53,235 --> 00:17:59,595 Speaker 1: This is Countdown with Keith Albermann in Sports. The latest 251 00:17:59,635 --> 00:18:03,955 Speaker 1: from the World Baseball Classic. No players were injured significantly yesterday, 252 00:18:04,035 --> 00:18:07,275 Speaker 1: meaning it's now one consecutive day since the Pennant Races 253 00:18:07,595 --> 00:18:11,475 Speaker 1: have been reshaped by a meaningless exhibition series whose backers 254 00:18:11,515 --> 00:18:16,075 Speaker 1: boast that its key games can sell thirty six thousand tickets. 255 00:18:17,195 --> 00:18:20,395 Speaker 1: On Saturday night, reliever Daniel Bard of the US team 256 00:18:20,475 --> 00:18:24,555 Speaker 1: lost the plate, walked to hit two, buzzed the Astros 257 00:18:24,595 --> 00:18:28,275 Speaker 1: two time MVP Jose Altuve in on his hands, broke 258 00:18:28,355 --> 00:18:31,515 Speaker 1: Altuve's thumb, and took Altube out of the Houston lineup 259 00:18:31,955 --> 00:18:34,835 Speaker 1: until at least June. But it could have happened in 260 00:18:34,875 --> 00:18:38,475 Speaker 1: an exhibition game because lots of pictures with wildness streaks 261 00:18:38,715 --> 00:18:42,075 Speaker 1: try to throw at full speed on March eighteenth, and 262 00:18:42,235 --> 00:18:45,155 Speaker 1: lots of batters who crowd the plate don't back off 263 00:18:45,195 --> 00:18:48,195 Speaker 1: a little until they're confident their timing and reaction speeds 264 00:18:48,195 --> 00:18:51,315 Speaker 1: are up to regular season full strength. And besides which, 265 00:18:51,635 --> 00:18:55,075 Speaker 1: even if there were no World Baseball Classic, Jose al 266 00:18:55,115 --> 00:18:59,955 Speaker 1: Tube could have been hit by lightning in spring training. 267 00:18:59,955 --> 00:19:03,595 Speaker 1: You never thought of that, did you. Jose al Tube 268 00:19:03,715 --> 00:19:06,035 Speaker 1: is out eight to ten weeks, and the star reliever 269 00:19:06,235 --> 00:19:09,515 Speaker 1: Edwin Diaz of the Mets is insisting he will make 270 00:19:09,555 --> 00:19:13,395 Speaker 1: it back before this season ends in September, but the 271 00:19:13,435 --> 00:19:15,955 Speaker 1: odds of that and the odds that he will never 272 00:19:15,995 --> 00:19:19,715 Speaker 1: fully recover from his kneecap tendon tear are about the same. 273 00:19:20,435 --> 00:19:23,275 Speaker 1: A couple of baseball executives I know suggest that while 274 00:19:23,355 --> 00:19:26,595 Speaker 1: media types whose profiles have been amplified by the tournament, 275 00:19:26,915 --> 00:19:29,355 Speaker 1: or who are paid by Major League Baseball to hype 276 00:19:29,395 --> 00:19:32,875 Speaker 1: the damn thing, continue to defend the World Baseball Classic 277 00:19:32,955 --> 00:19:38,075 Speaker 1: with arguments bordering on the irrational, they most players, most fans, 278 00:19:38,435 --> 00:19:40,955 Speaker 1: and most teams are missing the real point of the 279 00:19:41,035 --> 00:19:46,235 Speaker 1: last few days of carnage at the WBC. While appearing 280 00:19:46,355 --> 00:19:49,555 Speaker 1: in the World Baseball Classic, the players are paid by 281 00:19:49,595 --> 00:19:53,155 Speaker 1: their Major League teams. The major league teams only permit 282 00:19:53,235 --> 00:19:56,995 Speaker 1: this because the teams can get insurance against any injury 283 00:19:56,995 --> 00:20:00,075 Speaker 1: that will sideline their players. Just between how two Bay 284 00:20:00,075 --> 00:20:03,275 Speaker 1: and Diaz, the insurers will now pay out something like 285 00:20:03,395 --> 00:20:06,995 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars to the major league clubs. Well, guess 286 00:20:07,035 --> 00:20:09,955 Speaker 1: what insurers do when they suddenly have to pay somebody 287 00:20:10,035 --> 00:20:16,235 Speaker 1: thirty million dollars. Yes, they stop selling them insurance. It 288 00:20:16,355 --> 00:20:19,835 Speaker 1: was suggested to me that before the next WBC scheduled 289 00:20:19,835 --> 00:20:22,115 Speaker 1: for twenty twenty six. Look for Baseball to come up 290 00:20:22,155 --> 00:20:25,115 Speaker 1: with some kind of excuse about how it could get 291 00:20:25,115 --> 00:20:28,155 Speaker 1: an even bigger TV audience if they played the WBC 292 00:20:28,355 --> 00:20:32,195 Speaker 1: on non football nights in November, or how the World 293 00:20:32,195 --> 00:20:35,795 Speaker 1: Baseball Classic could be coordinated with the winter leagues of 294 00:20:35,875 --> 00:20:38,475 Speaker 1: Latin America so they could play in I don't know, 295 00:20:38,595 --> 00:20:41,515 Speaker 1: in Puerto Rico or Venezuela in November. It wouldn't be 296 00:20:41,555 --> 00:20:45,235 Speaker 1: great if the WBC championship game were in Mexico on Christmas, 297 00:20:46,515 --> 00:20:48,555 Speaker 1: and then at least the tournament would stop being this 298 00:20:48,755 --> 00:20:52,875 Speaker 1: March madness, and somebody like josel two bays eight to 299 00:20:52,995 --> 00:20:56,035 Speaker 1: ten week injury would at least put him back on 300 00:20:56,075 --> 00:20:59,355 Speaker 1: the field for the next spring training. This will all 301 00:20:59,435 --> 00:21:02,075 Speaker 1: leak out quietly and slowly, and nobody will say a 302 00:21:02,155 --> 00:21:04,595 Speaker 1: thing about injuries, and they'll move the twenty twenty six 303 00:21:04,675 --> 00:21:09,155 Speaker 1: tournament until late autumn because nobody will insure it in March. 304 00:21:09,395 --> 00:21:14,555 Speaker 1: Ever again, after this, they might not even insure it 305 00:21:14,635 --> 00:21:17,395 Speaker 1: in November either, which raises a point about the fans 306 00:21:17,475 --> 00:21:21,275 Speaker 1: willing to sacrifice other teams, seasons, and even the careers 307 00:21:21,315 --> 00:21:24,515 Speaker 1: of key players for the sake of a supposedly international 308 00:21:24,555 --> 00:21:28,195 Speaker 1: tournament where all the key games ever are always played 309 00:21:28,275 --> 00:21:32,395 Speaker 1: only in the United States, If the major league teams 310 00:21:32,675 --> 00:21:35,755 Speaker 1: couldn't get insurance on their players, and Edwin Diaz had 311 00:21:35,755 --> 00:21:39,475 Speaker 1: to sign a waiver avoiding his hundred million dollar contract 312 00:21:39,515 --> 00:21:42,315 Speaker 1: if he got hurt jumping up and down in a crowd, 313 00:21:42,555 --> 00:21:44,675 Speaker 1: or JOSEL two of a had to agree not to 314 00:21:44,715 --> 00:21:47,675 Speaker 1: be paid much of his twenty six million dollars salary 315 00:21:47,755 --> 00:21:49,515 Speaker 1: this year if he broke his thumb in one of 316 00:21:49,515 --> 00:21:53,395 Speaker 1: the games. How many of these guys would actually play? 317 00:21:54,115 --> 00:21:57,435 Speaker 1: How far are we all willing to take this I'm 318 00:21:57,435 --> 00:22:02,355 Speaker 1: playing for national pride stuff? The answer is obvious. If 319 00:22:02,355 --> 00:22:06,315 Speaker 1: the players had to take the physical and the financial risk, 320 00:22:07,115 --> 00:22:11,155 Speaker 1: the twenty twenty six WBC National rosters would be made 321 00:22:11,195 --> 00:22:14,915 Speaker 1: up of coaches, guys who retired in nineteen ninety eight 322 00:22:14,995 --> 00:22:19,315 Speaker 1: or earlier, and the top competitors from each major league 323 00:22:19,315 --> 00:22:32,395 Speaker 1: team's fantasy camps. Thank you, Nancy Faust. And another controversy 324 00:22:32,475 --> 00:22:35,915 Speaker 1: somehow got worse over the weekend. In sports, James rymer, 325 00:22:36,035 --> 00:22:39,075 Speaker 1: goaltender of the San Jose Sharks, refused to wear a 326 00:22:39,155 --> 00:22:43,475 Speaker 1: warm up uniform Saturday night for fifteen minutes with some 327 00:22:43,555 --> 00:22:46,715 Speaker 1: of the lettering and numbering change to a rainbow pattern 328 00:22:46,835 --> 00:22:50,595 Speaker 1: for San Jose Sharks Pride Night. Nobody asked him to 329 00:22:50,635 --> 00:22:53,275 Speaker 1: carry a flag, Nobody asked him to make a statement. 330 00:22:53,675 --> 00:22:57,075 Speaker 1: Nobody asked him for his endorsement, Nobody asked him anything. 331 00:22:57,155 --> 00:23:02,075 Speaker 1: He's James Rymer. Just wear the shirt, skate around a 332 00:23:02,075 --> 00:23:05,315 Speaker 1: couple of times, go back in the dressing room, change 333 00:23:05,395 --> 00:23:12,595 Speaker 1: the shirt. That's it. But James Reimer made a statement anyway, quote, 334 00:23:12,795 --> 00:23:16,035 Speaker 1: I am choosing not to endorse something that is counter 335 00:23:16,155 --> 00:23:19,195 Speaker 1: to my personal convictions, which are based on the Bible. 336 00:23:19,995 --> 00:23:23,315 Speaker 1: And the initial reactions seemed to be well, at least 337 00:23:23,315 --> 00:23:25,715 Speaker 1: he said something rather than trying to sneak it through 338 00:23:25,835 --> 00:23:30,435 Speaker 1: like the Russians who sabotage Pride Night in Minnesota and 339 00:23:30,595 --> 00:23:33,675 Speaker 1: New York and that guy in Philadelphia who sore has 340 00:23:33,675 --> 00:23:37,235 Speaker 1: said something, even though, as anybody who's read the Bible knows, 341 00:23:37,795 --> 00:23:40,235 Speaker 1: for nine out of ten subjects, you can get almost 342 00:23:40,235 --> 00:23:43,075 Speaker 1: any answer you want out of the Bible, to say 343 00:23:43,075 --> 00:23:45,395 Speaker 1: nothing of advice that's in the Bible that you wouldn't 344 00:23:45,435 --> 00:23:50,155 Speaker 1: follow even if you were Billy Graham. But then James 345 00:23:50,195 --> 00:23:53,755 Speaker 1: Rymer decided for some reason to take this to another level, 346 00:23:53,915 --> 00:23:58,235 Speaker 1: to drag his former teammate Nazim Kadri into this, and 347 00:23:58,355 --> 00:24:01,915 Speaker 1: he therefore lost any standing he might have had. Loved 348 00:24:01,955 --> 00:24:05,035 Speaker 1: him to death, Rhymer told San Jose Media of their 349 00:24:05,075 --> 00:24:08,115 Speaker 1: time together with the Toronto Maple Leafs. I don't know 350 00:24:08,155 --> 00:24:11,555 Speaker 1: exactly the extent of his faith, his Muslim faith, but 351 00:24:11,595 --> 00:24:14,115 Speaker 1: he's a Muslim. I think you could talk to him 352 00:24:14,115 --> 00:24:16,315 Speaker 1: and ask him if I treated him any different. I 353 00:24:16,435 --> 00:24:20,835 Speaker 1: love him the old I can't be a homophobe. One 354 00:24:20,835 --> 00:24:25,235 Speaker 1: of my best friends is a Muslim, defense resuming Rhymer 355 00:24:25,315 --> 00:24:28,715 Speaker 1: as he kept digging, quote, people would understand if I 356 00:24:28,715 --> 00:24:31,395 Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to wear a Muslim jersey and warm 357 00:24:31,475 --> 00:24:35,995 Speaker 1: ups promoting the Muslim faith being a Christian and a 358 00:24:35,995 --> 00:24:39,875 Speaker 1: follower in Christ. Can you still hear me up there 359 00:24:39,915 --> 00:24:45,595 Speaker 1: on the surface. Yeah, that's not exactly the flex Rhymer 360 00:24:45,715 --> 00:24:49,595 Speaker 1: thinks it is. End of the day, he continued, I 361 00:24:49,795 --> 00:24:53,595 Speaker 1: love everyone and the people in this community. If I 362 00:24:53,675 --> 00:24:56,395 Speaker 1: had a gay teammate, I hope I would be the 363 00:24:56,435 --> 00:24:58,875 Speaker 1: first one to shake his hand when he comes in 364 00:24:58,955 --> 00:25:02,155 Speaker 1: and treat him like I would any other teammate unquote, 365 00:25:02,155 --> 00:25:04,995 Speaker 1: except Rhymer made a public statement to underscore that he 366 00:25:05,035 --> 00:25:07,995 Speaker 1: was not supporting that hypothetical teammate. By the way, it 367 00:25:08,035 --> 00:25:12,315 Speaker 1: really isn't hypothetical. Statistically, James Rhymer has already had at 368 00:25:12,395 --> 00:25:14,995 Speaker 1: least one gay teammate. He just doesn't know it because 369 00:25:15,435 --> 00:25:18,675 Speaker 1: no gay NHL player has ever felt comfortable enough to 370 00:25:18,755 --> 00:25:22,555 Speaker 1: reveal his sexuality, in part because of quote friends unquote 371 00:25:22,595 --> 00:25:28,195 Speaker 1: like James freaking Rhymer. By the way, there are two 372 00:25:28,195 --> 00:25:31,235 Speaker 1: punch lines to this story. A hockey writer has pled 373 00:25:31,275 --> 00:25:35,355 Speaker 1: to donate three dollars to an LGBTQ charity for every 374 00:25:35,435 --> 00:25:37,875 Speaker 1: goal James Rhymer gives up the rest of the season, 375 00:25:38,595 --> 00:25:40,755 Speaker 1: which could cost a lot of money, given that, by 376 00:25:40,755 --> 00:25:43,715 Speaker 1: one metric, of the NHLs ninety eight goalies this year, 377 00:25:43,795 --> 00:25:49,115 Speaker 1: Rhymer is the eighty ninth best. The other punchline, sometime 378 00:25:49,195 --> 00:25:52,435 Speaker 1: on Saturday, Rhymers signed a puck for a fan at 379 00:25:52,435 --> 00:25:55,555 Speaker 1: the game in San Jose or at the arena after 380 00:25:55,595 --> 00:25:58,435 Speaker 1: the game, We're not sure when it happened. It was 381 00:25:58,475 --> 00:26:03,355 Speaker 1: a puck with a rainbow design on it. It was 382 00:26:03,395 --> 00:26:10,435 Speaker 1: a Pride Night puck. Evidently James Rhymer never noticed something 383 00:26:10,475 --> 00:26:27,275 Speaker 1: he should consider doing more of still ahead. You have 384 00:26:27,355 --> 00:26:30,595 Speaker 1: heard me saying again and again and again. When we 385 00:26:30,635 --> 00:26:34,115 Speaker 1: worked together at MSNBC, we all thought CNN president Chris 386 00:26:34,155 --> 00:26:39,955 Speaker 1: licked eight paced well. The proverbial glue guy has gotten 387 00:26:39,995 --> 00:26:42,035 Speaker 1: carved up in the newspapers yet again as he and 388 00:26:42,075 --> 00:26:46,755 Speaker 1: the network transformed fully into a punchline. The latest plus 389 00:26:46,795 --> 00:26:49,555 Speaker 1: the original story of Moby lickt when he was Joe 390 00:26:49,595 --> 00:26:53,555 Speaker 1: Scarborough's hatchetman, first time for the daily round up of 391 00:26:53,595 --> 00:26:56,475 Speaker 1: the misgrants, morons and Dunning Krueger Effect specimens who constitute 392 00:26:56,515 --> 00:27:01,915 Speaker 1: today's worst persons in the world. Lebronze, Kaylee MCKININNY, I 393 00:27:02,035 --> 00:27:04,075 Speaker 1: can't play this tape for you, even though I really 394 00:27:04,115 --> 00:27:07,155 Speaker 1: would like to, because it's from Fox, and I'll let 395 00:27:07,195 --> 00:27:09,035 Speaker 1: you in on a little secret. They would find out 396 00:27:09,035 --> 00:27:12,235 Speaker 1: and they would sue me because here's another secret. I 397 00:27:12,315 --> 00:27:15,715 Speaker 1: have from time to time been critical of Fox, actually 398 00:27:15,795 --> 00:27:20,395 Speaker 1: just once really continuously since two thousand and one, any who. 399 00:27:21,155 --> 00:27:24,435 Speaker 1: After her stint lying for money from Trump, mcinenney has 400 00:27:24,475 --> 00:27:26,755 Speaker 1: since moved on to lying for money for Fox, and 401 00:27:26,795 --> 00:27:30,035 Speaker 1: they're now letting her fill in for the actual hosts. Friday, 402 00:27:30,875 --> 00:27:32,915 Speaker 1: she was filling in for Laura Ingram, and her show, 403 00:27:32,995 --> 00:27:36,395 Speaker 1: The ingram Angle. Not it's a dumb name, and it's 404 00:27:36,395 --> 00:27:38,955 Speaker 1: a tongue twister, but still it takes a kind of 405 00:27:38,995 --> 00:27:42,595 Speaker 1: special talent to then say, I'm Kiley mcinenney in for 406 00:27:42,675 --> 00:27:44,915 Speaker 1: Laura Ingram and this is a special edition of the 407 00:27:45,035 --> 00:27:49,675 Speaker 1: ingrill Angam. It's kind of hard to believe someone's life 408 00:27:49,675 --> 00:27:52,435 Speaker 1: could have peaked when they were the associate producer on 409 00:27:52,475 --> 00:27:57,275 Speaker 1: the Mike Huckabee show The ingril Angam. It is now 410 00:27:57,315 --> 00:28:05,555 Speaker 1: and forever the ingrill Am. So Saith the Lord ingril Angam. 411 00:28:05,835 --> 00:28:09,315 Speaker 1: Ron's failed New York Republican nominee, Lee Zelden ran for 412 00:28:09,395 --> 00:28:12,115 Speaker 1: governor after Trump leaked the rumor that he was about 413 00:28:12,155 --> 00:28:15,435 Speaker 1: to be arrested. Zelden tweeted, Alvin Bragg may very well 414 00:28:15,475 --> 00:28:18,635 Speaker 1: be the most dangerous, devisive, incompetent, and compromised district attorney 415 00:28:18,675 --> 00:28:21,795 Speaker 1: in America. On day one, my first action as governor 416 00:28:21,915 --> 00:28:24,795 Speaker 1: would have been to tell Bragg he was being fired. 417 00:28:26,355 --> 00:28:29,355 Speaker 1: Mister Zelden, what you would have done to Bragg if 418 00:28:29,355 --> 00:28:32,955 Speaker 1: you had not lost a blowout to Kathy freaking Hokel. 419 00:28:33,555 --> 00:28:37,555 Speaker 1: It's not exactly the flex you think it is. But 420 00:28:37,675 --> 00:28:40,755 Speaker 1: our winner and let me just let the music die 421 00:28:40,795 --> 00:28:44,995 Speaker 1: out here, because this is the proverbial audio daily double. 422 00:28:45,115 --> 00:28:48,715 Speaker 1: You have to hear this, and hear this clearly. Standby, 423 00:28:48,715 --> 00:28:53,075 Speaker 1: Thank you. Senator Marsha Blackburn of Tennessee speaking at the 424 00:28:53,155 --> 00:28:56,675 Speaker 1: latest Conservative conference. And they have one every weekend. They 425 00:28:56,795 --> 00:28:59,275 Speaker 1: do nothing else. They have to keep busy to avoid 426 00:28:59,315 --> 00:29:02,035 Speaker 1: the small chance that the religion they champion might be 427 00:29:02,115 --> 00:29:04,555 Speaker 1: literally true and they're all going to hell. Any who. 428 00:29:05,395 --> 00:29:09,795 Speaker 1: This is from the Palmetto Family Bible Conference at North Charleston, 429 00:29:09,915 --> 00:29:13,515 Speaker 1: South Carolina. Well, how come it's North Charleston if it's 430 00:29:13,555 --> 00:29:17,515 Speaker 1: in South Carolina? And this is about that nationwide ride 431 00:29:17,635 --> 00:29:22,715 Speaker 1: Friday where we destroyed tens of millions of the Conservatives appliances. 432 00:29:23,955 --> 00:29:26,275 Speaker 1: You missed that when we went everybody's home and just 433 00:29:26,395 --> 00:29:32,355 Speaker 1: burned down their washboards and their washing machines, and Marcia 434 00:29:32,435 --> 00:29:36,435 Speaker 1: thinks it happened. They see an administration trying to take 435 00:29:37,035 --> 00:29:41,475 Speaker 1: and an ideology trying to take total control of their lives, 436 00:29:41,955 --> 00:29:46,595 Speaker 1: whether it's your light bulbs, your toilet flush ors, your showerheads, 437 00:29:47,155 --> 00:29:51,515 Speaker 1: your gas stoves, or this week, your washing machines. That 438 00:29:51,635 --> 00:29:54,395 Speaker 1: was an applause line that got no applause. If Marsha 439 00:29:54,475 --> 00:29:58,235 Speaker 1: Blackburn sometimes sounds to you like one of those fashion 440 00:29:58,315 --> 00:30:02,595 Speaker 1: and style ditzes you still see occasionally on Channel seven 441 00:30:02,715 --> 00:30:06,115 Speaker 1: magazine or two on Town TV, or any of the 442 00:30:06,195 --> 00:30:09,115 Speaker 1: locally produced shows left over from the eighties and the nineties. 443 00:30:09,395 --> 00:30:12,875 Speaker 1: Here's a little known fact. Before becoming first the dumbest 444 00:30:12,875 --> 00:30:15,915 Speaker 1: person in the House of Representatives and then the dumbest 445 00:30:15,915 --> 00:30:18,555 Speaker 1: person in the Senate, and more to the point, before 446 00:30:18,635 --> 00:30:21,635 Speaker 1: she began to look like the crazy, unkempt sister of 447 00:30:21,795 --> 00:30:27,395 Speaker 1: Flow from the Progressive Insurance commercials, Marshall Blackburn was a 448 00:30:27,435 --> 00:30:34,915 Speaker 1: professional image consultant who did TV appearances. No, I'm not kidding. 449 00:30:35,955 --> 00:30:38,835 Speaker 1: She took out an ad once in a Nashville newspaper 450 00:30:38,875 --> 00:30:41,555 Speaker 1: her face with a big headline next to it. Image 451 00:30:41,595 --> 00:30:44,915 Speaker 1: consultants aren't just for the rich. She once offered an 452 00:30:44,915 --> 00:30:49,155 Speaker 1: hour's lecture a ticket to it for fifteen bucks, lunch included. 453 00:30:49,795 --> 00:30:53,155 Speaker 1: I found feature articles on image consulting that quote her 454 00:30:53,435 --> 00:30:56,875 Speaker 1: for United Press International in nineteen eighty one, from Gannette 455 00:30:56,875 --> 00:31:00,555 Speaker 1: Newspapers in nineteen ninety one. There's in nineteen eighty seven Nashville, 456 00:31:00,555 --> 00:31:03,555 Speaker 1: Tennessee an article that quotes her is saying I liked 457 00:31:03,555 --> 00:31:08,235 Speaker 1: it bailed my flare or style with accesories, which I 458 00:31:08,235 --> 00:31:13,835 Speaker 1: believe was also her last campaign slogan. Most importantly, there 459 00:31:13,955 --> 00:31:18,475 Speaker 1: is a quick TV clip origin unknown that they've been 460 00:31:18,475 --> 00:31:20,755 Speaker 1: trying to get rid of off the internet for years, 461 00:31:20,795 --> 00:31:24,275 Speaker 1: but it's out there and it's staying out there. Marsha's 462 00:31:24,315 --> 00:31:28,675 Speaker 1: giant inflatable hair suggests it could be nineteen ninety one, 463 00:31:29,035 --> 00:31:32,795 Speaker 1: or it could be nineteen eighty one. If it weren't 464 00:31:32,795 --> 00:31:34,715 Speaker 1: on video and it was on film, it could be 465 00:31:34,795 --> 00:31:39,555 Speaker 1: nineteen sixty one. Anyway, this is the same Marsha Blackburn 466 00:31:40,275 --> 00:31:45,475 Speaker 1: now United States Senator? Can you dress us up for 467 00:31:45,475 --> 00:31:48,555 Speaker 1: the holidays? Oh? We can dress you better than ever 468 00:31:48,675 --> 00:31:52,035 Speaker 1: this year. You wouldn't believe it. Christmas and holiday wear 469 00:31:52,155 --> 00:31:55,235 Speaker 1: is so exciting and for the first time in many 470 00:31:55,275 --> 00:31:57,315 Speaker 1: of our lives, many young adults, people who are in 471 00:31:57,355 --> 00:32:00,195 Speaker 1: the forty and under bracket, it's the first year we've 472 00:32:00,195 --> 00:32:03,315 Speaker 1: ever gotten the chance to really make a distinctive difference 473 00:32:03,315 --> 00:32:07,035 Speaker 1: in our daytime and evening dressing. How is that changing, Marsha? 474 00:32:07,115 --> 00:32:09,635 Speaker 1: I were seeing so much to glitter and glamor and 475 00:32:09,715 --> 00:32:16,315 Speaker 1: lots of big rhymestones, big fake JEMs, lots of sequence fabrics, 476 00:32:16,315 --> 00:32:20,235 Speaker 1: and just fun, fun things to wear big faked gems. 477 00:32:21,755 --> 00:32:24,755 Speaker 1: Any who, I was watching these two clips that I 478 00:32:24,835 --> 00:32:26,795 Speaker 1: just played you the audio from, and I was thinking, 479 00:32:27,235 --> 00:32:30,155 Speaker 1: I bet you Marsha Blackburn's only had just the one 480 00:32:30,195 --> 00:32:33,475 Speaker 1: thought over the last forty or fifty years, and she 481 00:32:33,595 --> 00:32:37,435 Speaker 1: keeps parceling it out. Portions of it here, portions of it. 482 00:32:37,515 --> 00:32:40,915 Speaker 1: They're in fashion consulting, or in the House, or in 483 00:32:40,955 --> 00:32:45,115 Speaker 1: the Senate, or at her little weekly theocratic conventions. And 484 00:32:45,155 --> 00:32:47,835 Speaker 1: I wondered, well would it sound like if I put 485 00:32:47,835 --> 00:32:50,675 Speaker 1: it all back together again, if I made that one 486 00:32:50,715 --> 00:32:55,235 Speaker 1: thought back into one SoundBite. I call these things, and 487 00:32:55,275 --> 00:32:59,355 Speaker 1: I know nobody else has ever used this term a mashup? 488 00:33:00,195 --> 00:33:04,075 Speaker 1: How is that changing? Marshas they see an administration trying 489 00:33:04,115 --> 00:33:09,675 Speaker 1: to take Big Rhinstone's big fake gem, lots of sequin 490 00:33:09,835 --> 00:33:15,155 Speaker 1: fabric thing, white bulbs, your toilet flushers, your shower heads, 491 00:33:15,315 --> 00:33:18,835 Speaker 1: your gas stoves, or this week your big fake people. 492 00:33:19,275 --> 00:33:21,035 Speaker 1: Can you dress us up for the holidays? Oh, we 493 00:33:21,155 --> 00:33:24,355 Speaker 1: can grass you better than ever this year. You wouldn't 494 00:33:24,355 --> 00:33:28,155 Speaker 1: believe it, As my dad would say, that's somebody that's 495 00:33:28,195 --> 00:33:33,155 Speaker 1: got too much time and too much Big Rhinstone's big 496 00:33:33,235 --> 00:33:38,035 Speaker 1: fake gem, lots of sequin fabrics and just fun, fun 497 00:33:38,155 --> 00:33:45,835 Speaker 1: things to wear. Marcia, No, don't get your glitter and 498 00:33:45,875 --> 00:33:51,315 Speaker 1: glamour and glitz stuck in your toilet flushers. Blackburn two days. 499 00:33:52,355 --> 00:33:55,195 Speaker 1: Oh no wait, I can't resist. I'm sorry. How is that? 500 00:33:55,355 --> 00:34:00,995 Speaker 1: Rings They see an administration trying to take big rhinestones, 501 00:34:01,155 --> 00:34:07,075 Speaker 1: big fake gem, lots of sequin fire light bulbs, your 502 00:34:07,115 --> 00:34:11,795 Speaker 1: toilet flushers, your showerheads, your gas stoves are this week 503 00:34:11,835 --> 00:34:15,515 Speaker 1: your people? Can you dress us up for the holiday? Oh? 504 00:34:15,595 --> 00:34:18,515 Speaker 1: We can dress you better than ever this year. You 505 00:34:18,515 --> 00:34:22,395 Speaker 1: wouldn't believe it, As my dad would say, that's somebody 506 00:34:22,475 --> 00:34:45,755 Speaker 1: that's got Marsha blackburn two days, worst dressed person still ahead. 507 00:34:45,795 --> 00:34:48,595 Speaker 1: Well they've sliced up Chris Lickt of CNN again New 508 00:34:48,635 --> 00:34:52,795 Speaker 1: York Times, noting that the Licht helmed CNN primetime specials 509 00:34:52,835 --> 00:34:56,035 Speaker 1: at nine pm. Quote last week, when the network aired 510 00:34:56,075 --> 00:34:58,595 Speaker 1: the Biden and Zelenski interviews, as well as at town 511 00:34:58,635 --> 00:35:01,595 Speaker 1: hall with Governor Young Ken of Virginia, CNN delivered its 512 00:35:01,595 --> 00:35:05,155 Speaker 1: fourth lowest nine pm weekly ratings in twenty four years. 513 00:35:06,195 --> 00:35:09,955 Speaker 1: Times quotes licts boss David zaslav Is saying ratings be 514 00:35:10,075 --> 00:35:13,035 Speaker 1: damned and let's get a lot wrong in the next year. 515 00:35:13,675 --> 00:35:16,475 Speaker 1: The whole piece reeks of a subtext of when are 516 00:35:16,515 --> 00:35:20,955 Speaker 1: they going to fire this lickt guy and this Zaslav guy. Anyway, 517 00:35:20,995 --> 00:35:23,715 Speaker 1: the original story about when I worked with Chris Licht 518 00:35:23,715 --> 00:35:27,075 Speaker 1: an MSNBC next. First, in each edition of Countdown, we 519 00:35:27,195 --> 00:35:29,395 Speaker 1: feature a dog in need you can help. Every dog 520 00:35:29,475 --> 00:35:33,875 Speaker 1: has its day to Brooklyn and Nacho, a tiny, terrified dog, 521 00:35:33,915 --> 00:35:37,155 Speaker 1: maybe a Yorki Chihuahua mix. For two years he got 522 00:35:37,155 --> 00:35:40,875 Speaker 1: no attention, no affection, no exercise, not enough food. Then 523 00:35:40,875 --> 00:35:42,915 Speaker 1: his human left the country and gave him to an 524 00:35:42,995 --> 00:35:46,515 Speaker 1: elderly aunt, and of course by then Nacho was too 525 00:35:46,515 --> 00:35:49,915 Speaker 1: scared of humans to respond. AMA Animal Rescue is trying 526 00:35:49,915 --> 00:35:53,155 Speaker 1: to help him recover needs our donations. Look for Nacho 527 00:35:53,275 --> 00:35:56,115 Speaker 1: on go fund Me or on my Twitter feeds. I 528 00:35:56,275 --> 00:36:08,635 Speaker 1: thank you, and Nacho thank you. Perhaps the most amazing 529 00:36:08,675 --> 00:36:11,715 Speaker 1: thing about my ten years at MSNBC was the fact 530 00:36:11,995 --> 00:36:16,475 Speaker 1: that Joe Scarborough and his producers, especially his chief henchman, 531 00:36:16,995 --> 00:36:20,915 Speaker 1: ever got their own show on the air. Because nobody 532 00:36:21,035 --> 00:36:24,515 Speaker 1: I have ever worked with in radio or television, in 533 00:36:24,635 --> 00:36:28,035 Speaker 1: sports or news in the twentieth century or the twenty 534 00:36:28,035 --> 00:36:32,595 Speaker 1: first ever spent more time trying to screw with other 535 00:36:32,675 --> 00:36:37,155 Speaker 1: programs on the same network than did Joe Scarborough, And 536 00:36:37,315 --> 00:36:40,115 Speaker 1: until just about the time I left in twenty eleven, 537 00:36:40,435 --> 00:36:42,595 Speaker 1: the guy he sent in to do most of the 538 00:36:42,675 --> 00:36:47,395 Speaker 1: sabotage for him was this henchman guy. The reason this 539 00:36:47,435 --> 00:36:52,075 Speaker 1: should matter to you now is Scarborough's henchman was Chris Licked, 540 00:36:52,555 --> 00:36:55,355 Speaker 1: the new president of CNN. And if they scoured the 541 00:36:55,435 --> 00:36:59,715 Speaker 1: nation to find the worst person to run CNN in 542 00:36:59,795 --> 00:37:03,235 Speaker 1: a time when democracy is threatened by one political party 543 00:37:03,475 --> 00:37:08,675 Speaker 1: and tepidly defended by another, it's Chris Licked. I know, 544 00:37:08,795 --> 00:37:10,675 Speaker 1: I know. You turn on the TV and you see 545 00:37:10,755 --> 00:37:16,035 Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough and you see exactly what I see. A blank, dazed, darting, paranoid, 546 00:37:16,235 --> 00:37:21,435 Speaker 1: no soul, stupid check engine light. Look. But if you 547 00:37:21,435 --> 00:37:26,275 Speaker 1: don't trust me, trust my scars. My Joey Scars behind 548 00:37:26,395 --> 00:37:32,755 Speaker 1: that vapid face is a master saboteur. Early in two 549 00:37:32,795 --> 00:37:34,795 Speaker 1: thousand and eight, the late Tim Russert called me and 550 00:37:34,835 --> 00:37:37,755 Speaker 1: warned me that the GOP had upped its pressure on me. 551 00:37:37,835 --> 00:37:40,275 Speaker 1: He said he had heard from somebody in New York 552 00:37:41,275 --> 00:37:43,475 Speaker 1: that somebody in New York was going into the office 553 00:37:43,475 --> 00:37:46,115 Speaker 1: of the president of NBC News saying that Joe Scarborough 554 00:37:46,115 --> 00:37:49,115 Speaker 1: couldn't get his friend John McCain to come on to 555 00:37:49,235 --> 00:37:53,435 Speaker 1: his new morning show because I was so critical of McCain. 556 00:37:53,635 --> 00:37:56,915 Speaker 1: On Countdown, Tim was not sure it was Scarborough, but 557 00:37:56,995 --> 00:37:59,795 Speaker 1: if it wasn't, who else could have gotten in to 558 00:37:59,955 --> 00:38:03,675 Speaker 1: see the president of NBC News other than Scarborough or 559 00:38:03,715 --> 00:38:08,555 Speaker 1: his executive pretty The evidence for the new CNN president, 560 00:38:08,555 --> 00:38:11,835 Speaker 1: mister Licht, being directly involved in interfering with programming to 561 00:38:11,875 --> 00:38:15,715 Speaker 1: benefit somebody else's friends or political cronies, was vague in 562 00:38:15,755 --> 00:38:18,515 Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, but not at all vague two 563 00:38:18,555 --> 00:38:23,235 Speaker 1: years later. Early in January two ten, the Republican candidate 564 00:38:23,275 --> 00:38:25,595 Speaker 1: to fill the Senate seat of a late Ted Kennedy, 565 00:38:25,955 --> 00:38:30,235 Speaker 1: Scott Brown, the former semi nude model, was at a 566 00:38:30,355 --> 00:38:33,835 Speaker 1: rally when one of his supporters talked about quote, shoving 567 00:38:33,955 --> 00:38:37,675 Speaker 1: a curling iron up the backside of the Democratic Senate 568 00:38:37,715 --> 00:38:41,875 Speaker 1: candidate Martha Cokeley. Scott Brown clearly heard the remark from 569 00:38:41,875 --> 00:38:45,715 Speaker 1: the crowd and responded, quote, we could do that. On 570 00:38:45,795 --> 00:38:48,835 Speaker 1: January eighteenth, on Countdown, I did a brief commentary about 571 00:38:48,835 --> 00:38:51,475 Speaker 1: how unsuitable Brown was for public office. I said he 572 00:38:51,555 --> 00:38:56,875 Speaker 1: was quote an irresponsible, homophobic, racist, reactionary, X nude model 573 00:38:57,195 --> 00:39:01,155 Speaker 1: tea bagging supporter of violence against women and against politicians 574 00:39:01,155 --> 00:39:05,275 Speaker 1: with whom he disagrees. Unt I had quote from Brown, 575 00:39:05,715 --> 00:39:08,955 Speaker 1: I had videotape of him disparaging his minority opponent in 576 00:39:08,995 --> 00:39:12,315 Speaker 1: a local election to her face at a debate. To 577 00:39:12,475 --> 00:39:16,915 Speaker 1: back up what I said. An hour later, Joe Scarborough 578 00:39:16,955 --> 00:39:20,915 Speaker 1: commenced a tweet storm against me. Quote Alberman calls Brown 579 00:39:21,035 --> 00:39:25,555 Speaker 1: a homophobic, racist reactionary who supports violence against women. How 580 00:39:25,635 --> 00:39:29,675 Speaker 1: reckless and how sad. It's no longer enough to simply 581 00:39:29,715 --> 00:39:32,515 Speaker 1: disagree with someone. I'm sorry, I just fell into my 582 00:39:32,515 --> 00:39:36,035 Speaker 1: Scarborough impression. Just as when Beck called a president racist, 583 00:39:36,555 --> 00:39:40,995 Speaker 1: this sort of rhetorical exclaimism must be discouraged. It chapened 584 00:39:40,995 --> 00:39:46,315 Speaker 1: the debate. End quote, end impression. Now there was a 585 00:39:46,355 --> 00:39:50,315 Speaker 1: standing rule at MSNBC. You want to criticize another MSNBC personality, 586 00:39:50,795 --> 00:39:55,515 Speaker 1: go ahead, have a blast, but it must be on 587 00:39:55,675 --> 00:39:58,395 Speaker 1: the air on MSNBC, and the other person must have 588 00:39:58,435 --> 00:40:02,195 Speaker 1: an opportunity to reply in real time, in the same show, 589 00:40:02,355 --> 00:40:04,875 Speaker 1: or in some kind of face to face way. No 590 00:40:05,555 --> 00:40:11,515 Speaker 1: hit and run. Joe Scarborough tweet storms. If you criticize 591 00:40:11,555 --> 00:40:14,995 Speaker 1: them by name or by inference in any other medium newspaper, interview, radio, 592 00:40:15,035 --> 00:40:19,875 Speaker 1: social media, you were to receive an automatic suspension. The 593 00:40:19,915 --> 00:40:22,635 Speaker 1: next day, January nineteenth, I called the president of MSNBC, 594 00:40:22,715 --> 00:40:25,995 Speaker 1: Phil Griffin, and I asked how long Joe Scarborough's automatic 595 00:40:26,035 --> 00:40:30,035 Speaker 1: suspension was going to be. Griffin asked me to come 596 00:40:30,035 --> 00:40:33,075 Speaker 1: into the office a little earlier than usual and to 597 00:40:33,155 --> 00:40:35,835 Speaker 1: go see him. He said he had already had a 598 00:40:35,875 --> 00:40:39,915 Speaker 1: meeting about the tweets that morning with Scarborough's executive producer, 599 00:40:39,995 --> 00:40:45,475 Speaker 1: Chris Licht. Griffin explained that Scarborough, according to Licht, considered 600 00:40:45,475 --> 00:40:50,635 Speaker 1: Scott Brown a friend. More importantly, Chris lickt warned Griffin 601 00:40:50,675 --> 00:40:53,595 Speaker 1: that if Griffin followed through and enforced the suspension rule, 602 00:40:54,235 --> 00:40:56,835 Speaker 1: Scarborough would have no other option than to go to 603 00:40:56,915 --> 00:41:01,115 Speaker 1: the press and tell reporters, especially reporters at right wing 604 00:41:01,195 --> 00:41:06,355 Speaker 1: websites like Tucker Carlson's The Daily Caller, that he Scarborough 605 00:41:06,355 --> 00:41:10,315 Speaker 1: had been suspended because he Scarborough was a conservative, but 606 00:41:10,755 --> 00:41:14,275 Speaker 1: I was a liberal, and that I and not Phil 607 00:41:14,315 --> 00:41:21,435 Speaker 1: Griffin ran MSNBC. What can I do? Griffin was scared. 608 00:41:22,075 --> 00:41:24,715 Speaker 1: I told him he could fire Scarborough and licked because 609 00:41:24,755 --> 00:41:27,555 Speaker 1: they had just tried to blackmail him, and eventually he 610 00:41:27,595 --> 00:41:29,675 Speaker 1: was going to have to fire them both anyway, But 611 00:41:29,755 --> 00:41:31,555 Speaker 1: that I knew he would not do this, and that 612 00:41:31,635 --> 00:41:34,355 Speaker 1: I knew now that he would not suspend Scarborough either, 613 00:41:34,875 --> 00:41:38,955 Speaker 1: and Griffin did not suspend him. Partial score Scarborough's friends 614 00:41:39,155 --> 00:41:45,795 Speaker 1: to MSNBC's rules of behavior nothing but Phil Griffin did 615 00:41:45,915 --> 00:41:48,995 Speaker 1: send out a memo to the entire company insisting that 616 00:41:49,035 --> 00:41:53,195 Speaker 1: anybody who criticized another MSNBC show or host in another 617 00:41:53,235 --> 00:41:57,435 Speaker 1: medium would be suspended, except Scarborough, who had just done 618 00:41:57,475 --> 00:42:02,235 Speaker 1: exactly that and then threatened his own employers. On January 619 00:42:02,235 --> 00:42:05,875 Speaker 1: twenty fifth, Brian Stelter's old blaw TV newser got a 620 00:42:05,915 --> 00:42:09,195 Speaker 1: copy of Griffin's memo. They wondered why Scarborough had not 621 00:42:09,235 --> 00:42:12,515 Speaker 1: been suspended, so they called the MSNBC president and they 622 00:42:12,595 --> 00:42:17,035 Speaker 1: printed quote Griffin responds to TV Newser quote, an important 623 00:42:17,115 --> 00:42:20,195 Speaker 1: rule was broken. I spoke to Keith and he said, 624 00:42:20,195 --> 00:42:23,915 Speaker 1: in the spirit of teamwork and the free flow of ideas, 625 00:42:24,235 --> 00:42:27,475 Speaker 1: he didn't think it warranted punishment or suspension. I also 626 00:42:27,555 --> 00:42:31,315 Speaker 1: talked to Joe and he apologized to me. That's why 627 00:42:31,395 --> 00:42:33,875 Speaker 1: I made the decision that this didn't rise to the 628 00:42:33,955 --> 00:42:36,195 Speaker 1: level of punishment, but I felt it was necessary to 629 00:42:36,235 --> 00:42:41,235 Speaker 1: reiterate my long standing policy one PC bullcrap reiterate my 630 00:42:41,315 --> 00:42:44,155 Speaker 1: long standing policy which I just did not enforce against 631 00:42:44,235 --> 00:42:47,475 Speaker 1: Joe Scarborough. The whole thing was totally fabricated, licked and 632 00:42:47,515 --> 00:42:51,235 Speaker 1: Scarborough had threatened to smear their own bosses in the 633 00:42:51,315 --> 00:42:54,755 Speaker 1: right wing echo chamber. Should have been both fired on 634 00:42:54,795 --> 00:42:59,435 Speaker 1: the spot. In May twenty ten, Scarborough said something on 635 00:42:59,475 --> 00:43:01,675 Speaker 1: the air about a Democrat getting away with not being 636 00:43:01,675 --> 00:43:05,275 Speaker 1: investigated for something. I forget the details. I didn't bother 637 00:43:05,395 --> 00:43:07,995 Speaker 1: to look it up. You can if you want. Then. 638 00:43:08,275 --> 00:43:11,355 Speaker 1: Marcos militzis the editor of the Daily Coast website and 639 00:43:11,435 --> 00:43:14,035 Speaker 1: not just a regular contributor to Countdown, but somebody who 640 00:43:14,075 --> 00:43:17,515 Speaker 1: had been promoting the show and the MSNBC brand on 641 00:43:17,555 --> 00:43:21,715 Speaker 1: that website every day for five years. Marcos sent a 642 00:43:21,795 --> 00:43:26,675 Speaker 1: snarky but legitimate tweet questioning Scarborough's credentials to criticize others 643 00:43:26,675 --> 00:43:30,315 Speaker 1: who had not been investigated for stuff. Marcos invoked the 644 00:43:30,355 --> 00:43:34,835 Speaker 1: staffer who died in an accident in Joe Scarborough's congressional office. 645 00:43:35,435 --> 00:43:39,955 Speaker 1: Scarborough then attacked Melitsus on Twitter inaccurately claiming Melitzus had 646 00:43:39,955 --> 00:43:44,715 Speaker 1: accused Scarborough of murder. A few days after that, I 647 00:43:44,755 --> 00:43:47,435 Speaker 1: got a phone call from the MSNBC president, Phil Griffin. 648 00:43:47,435 --> 00:43:48,875 Speaker 1: And if he got a phone call rather than a 649 00:43:48,915 --> 00:43:51,155 Speaker 1: call to come into his office, you know he was 650 00:43:51,235 --> 00:43:54,635 Speaker 1: really scared. Griffin told me Chris Licked has been in 651 00:43:54,635 --> 00:43:57,075 Speaker 1: to see me. Joe won't put up with having Marcos 652 00:43:57,155 --> 00:44:00,635 Speaker 1: Militzus on his network anymore. Not only that, but Licks 653 00:44:00,715 --> 00:44:04,555 Speaker 1: as many of Joe's friends who also appear in Dayside 654 00:44:04,675 --> 00:44:08,795 Speaker 1: and Primetime won't come on if Marcos Mulitzis is permitted 655 00:44:08,835 --> 00:44:15,075 Speaker 1: to continue. Here, Chris is insisting that Marcos be banned 656 00:44:15,075 --> 00:44:17,915 Speaker 1: from MSNBC immediately. Chris says he's afraid that if we 657 00:44:17,915 --> 00:44:21,875 Speaker 1: don't do that, Joe won't come into work tomorrow. Upon 658 00:44:21,995 --> 00:44:24,835 Speaker 1: hearing that, I laughed and I congratulated Phil Griffin on 659 00:44:24,875 --> 00:44:29,035 Speaker 1: the clear win win he'd just been given. But Phil 660 00:44:29,195 --> 00:44:33,235 Speaker 1: was very bad at enforcing MSNBC's rules, but very good 661 00:44:33,235 --> 00:44:36,515 Speaker 1: at creating new ones on the spot. To protect Joe 662 00:44:36,555 --> 00:44:41,395 Speaker 1: Scarborough and Chris Licht and their friends, I'm banning Mlitzus 663 00:44:41,435 --> 00:44:44,715 Speaker 1: from any further appearances on MSNBC, I said Phil. He's 664 00:44:44,755 --> 00:44:48,635 Speaker 1: a contributor to my show. You are suspending my contributor 665 00:44:48,915 --> 00:44:52,835 Speaker 1: who has driven hundreds of thousands of viewers to Countdown 666 00:44:52,875 --> 00:44:55,875 Speaker 1: at MSNBC, and I don't have any say in it. 667 00:44:56,635 --> 00:45:00,155 Speaker 1: You are owned by Joe Scarborough and Chris Licht. What 668 00:45:00,355 --> 00:45:02,155 Speaker 1: you now have to worry about is whether I tell 669 00:45:02,195 --> 00:45:04,235 Speaker 1: this story on the air tonight or I just wait 670 00:45:04,235 --> 00:45:09,075 Speaker 1: and tell later. Phil now got conciliatory because he was 671 00:45:09,115 --> 00:45:12,275 Speaker 1: scared again and said it could be just a suspension 672 00:45:12,795 --> 00:45:16,875 Speaker 1: if I cooperated. So I called Marcos. He said he 673 00:45:16,955 --> 00:45:20,395 Speaker 1: enjoyed his contributions to Countdown. He also did occasional appearances 674 00:45:20,435 --> 00:45:23,875 Speaker 1: on the old Ed Schultz MSNBC show, and he said 675 00:45:23,875 --> 00:45:26,275 Speaker 1: if there were a chance at resuming them, he'd preferred 676 00:45:26,315 --> 00:45:29,875 Speaker 1: to at least try that. So Marcos and I went 677 00:45:29,875 --> 00:45:33,235 Speaker 1: along with Griffin suspending Marcus Melitzus, and to my knowledge, 678 00:45:33,475 --> 00:45:39,115 Speaker 1: Marcus Melitzus has not been seen on MSNBC since. I 679 00:45:39,195 --> 00:45:41,795 Speaker 1: wish I had better notes on some of my conversations 680 00:45:41,795 --> 00:45:44,675 Speaker 1: from the two thousand and eight, nine, ten eleven era 681 00:45:45,715 --> 00:45:49,035 Speaker 1: about those conversations with the hosts and the producers of 682 00:45:49,035 --> 00:45:51,395 Speaker 1: the other shows like Schultz and Rachel Maddow's show and 683 00:45:51,435 --> 00:45:54,075 Speaker 1: even Chris Matthews and Hardball. I must have heard a 684 00:45:54,155 --> 00:45:56,995 Speaker 1: variation of this statement a dozen times from these people. 685 00:45:57,035 --> 00:45:59,595 Speaker 1: Guess who was in Griffin's office explaining that such and 686 00:45:59,675 --> 00:46:01,715 Speaker 1: such as Joe's friend and Phil really needs to make 687 00:46:01,755 --> 00:46:05,155 Speaker 1: sure we lay off him. Chris licked. It was usually 688 00:46:05,195 --> 00:46:08,315 Speaker 1: an expletive in the middle between Chris and Licht. I 689 00:46:08,315 --> 00:46:10,795 Speaker 1: remember one of my producers at the MSNBC a version 690 00:46:10,795 --> 00:46:13,195 Speaker 1: of Countdown telling me that one of the other producers 691 00:46:13,195 --> 00:46:16,875 Speaker 1: told him that Licht had gone to NBC News president 692 00:46:16,955 --> 00:46:21,275 Speaker 1: Steve Kappus with an actual list of Republicans that Matto 693 00:46:21,395 --> 00:46:24,835 Speaker 1: and Olberman needed to stop criticizing because they were Joe's 694 00:46:25,475 --> 00:46:30,955 Speaker 1: here's the word again friends, and we were hurting morning Joe. 695 00:46:33,395 --> 00:46:36,555 Speaker 1: What's amazing is that, setting aside the issues of unrevealed 696 00:46:36,675 --> 00:46:39,995 Speaker 1: torrid love affairs, when CNN fired its nine PM host 697 00:46:40,115 --> 00:46:44,475 Speaker 1: Chris Cuomo, president Jeff Zucker, and senior vice president Alison Gallist, 698 00:46:44,795 --> 00:46:47,595 Speaker 1: they fired them in essence because they interfered with CNN 699 00:46:47,675 --> 00:46:51,475 Speaker 1: content and practices in order to do favors for people 700 00:46:51,475 --> 00:46:57,395 Speaker 1: who were their friends or, in Cuomo's case, their relatives 701 00:46:58,155 --> 00:47:02,555 Speaker 1: at MSNBC. Interfering with MSNBC content and practices to do 702 00:47:02,635 --> 00:47:06,955 Speaker 1: favors for friends was seemingly the only reason Chris Licked 703 00:47:06,955 --> 00:47:11,595 Speaker 1: had a job. So CNN got rid of left wingers 704 00:47:11,635 --> 00:47:15,355 Speaker 1: for a terrible violation of journalistic ethics, and then hired 705 00:47:15,395 --> 00:47:18,955 Speaker 1: as president a right wing henchman who had committed exactly 706 00:47:18,955 --> 00:47:22,795 Speaker 1: the same journalistic ethical problems, and who, for his act, 707 00:47:23,875 --> 00:47:26,315 Speaker 1: the first one of his career at CNN, killed off 708 00:47:26,355 --> 00:47:30,995 Speaker 1: the only national television show that regularly held up Fox News, 709 00:47:31,075 --> 00:47:35,195 Speaker 1: Newsmax and all the rest to the world to show 710 00:47:35,235 --> 00:47:37,595 Speaker 1: that they were the threats to democracy that they are. 711 00:47:40,715 --> 00:47:57,715 Speaker 1: This is CNN. I've done all the damage I can 712 00:47:57,755 --> 00:48:00,555 Speaker 1: do here. Thank you for listening. Here are the credits. 713 00:48:00,675 --> 00:48:03,075 Speaker 1: Most of the music was arranged, produced and performed by 714 00:48:03,075 --> 00:48:05,795 Speaker 1: Brian Ray and John Philip Channel, who are the Countdown 715 00:48:05,915 --> 00:48:10,675 Speaker 1: musical directors. Orchestration and keyboards by John Fidli Channel, Guitars, 716 00:48:10,715 --> 00:48:13,995 Speaker 1: bass and drums by Brian Ray, produced by Tko Brothers. 717 00:48:14,395 --> 00:48:17,155 Speaker 1: Other Beethoven selections have been arranged and performed by the 718 00:48:17,155 --> 00:48:21,035 Speaker 1: group No Horns Allowed. Sports Music is the Olderman theme 719 00:48:21,115 --> 00:48:23,595 Speaker 1: from ESPN two, and it was written by Mitch Warren 720 00:48:23,675 --> 00:48:28,475 Speaker 1: Davis courtesy of ESPN inc musical comments from Nancy Fauss. 721 00:48:28,515 --> 00:48:31,715 Speaker 1: The best baseball stadium organist ever. Our announcer today was 722 00:48:31,795 --> 00:48:35,035 Speaker 1: Jonathan Banks, and everything else was pretty much my fault. 723 00:48:35,755 --> 00:48:37,955 Speaker 1: So let's countdown for this the eight hundred and fourth 724 00:48:38,035 --> 00:48:41,675 Speaker 1: day since Donald Trump's first attempted coup against the democratically 725 00:48:41,715 --> 00:48:44,835 Speaker 1: elected government of the United States. So now watch for 726 00:48:44,875 --> 00:48:49,755 Speaker 1: the new meaning behind Nick's next phrase, Arrest him now 727 00:48:49,875 --> 00:48:54,395 Speaker 1: while we still can, like tomorrow tomorrow would be a 728 00:48:54,395 --> 00:48:57,955 Speaker 1: good day. Is it too late today? Arrested him today? 729 00:48:58,755 --> 00:49:02,315 Speaker 1: Better yet, arrest him today and then arrest him again tomorrow. 730 00:49:04,155 --> 00:49:07,715 Speaker 1: The next edual countdown is tomorrow. Thank you for bearing 731 00:49:07,755 --> 00:49:11,475 Speaker 1: with me till then. I'm Keith Olerman. Good morning, good afternoon, goodnight, 732 00:49:11,995 --> 00:49:23,395 Speaker 1: and good luck. Countdown with Keith Olreman is a production 733 00:49:23,555 --> 00:49:28,875 Speaker 1: of iHeartRadio. For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, 734 00:49:28,915 --> 00:49:32,315 Speaker 1: Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.