1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Hey Disco's You can listen to an extended version of 2 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: this after party episode by becoming a member of Disgraceland 3 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,360 Speaker 1: All Access. Just go to disgracelandpod dot com slash membership 4 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: for more details and to sign up. Hey guys, welcome 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:17,279 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, which is of course brought to you by 6 00:00:17,360 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: Double Elvis. This week we have a brand new episode 7 00:00:21,079 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: on the writer William S. Burrows that's in our Disgraceland 8 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:27,600 Speaker 1: feed and in our all Access feed for our members 9 00:00:27,760 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: on Patreon and in Apple subscription. We have episodes on Basquiacht, 10 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: Lane Staley, and Hunter S. 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The singer's talk podcast. 21 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,680 Speaker 1: Hey discos, need a little more Disgraceland in your life, 22 00:01:10,040 --> 00:01:11,520 Speaker 1: just to touch to get you through. 23 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, me too. 24 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,839 Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast. Welcome 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: to Disgraceland the after Party. All right, Welcome to the 26 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: Disgraceland bonus episode. This, as you know, is a little 27 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 1: thing that we like to call the after party. This 28 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:41,760 Speaker 1: is the show after the show, the party after the show, 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: the bridge to get you from one full episode of 30 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into the dirt. 31 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: On this episode, we are talking about our new story 32 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: on william S Burrows that hit your feeds this week. 33 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: And of course the sources that we used for this 34 00:01:55,600 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 1: story helped us uncover some wild news about another. 35 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 2: Murder that we did not have the time to include 36 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:03,640 Speaker 2: in this actual episode. 37 00:02:03,760 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: And of course your voicemails and texts and as always, 38 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 1: a whole lot of rosie. All right, this goes, Let's 39 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:27,799 Speaker 1: get into it. I thought I was onto something secret 40 00:02:27,880 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: and dangerous that no other fifteen year old knew about. 41 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: There it was right there, out in the open, on 42 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 1: the bookshelf in the back of the Harvard Square Newbery Comics, 43 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: the very same place that I'd heard the Pixies for 44 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 1: the first time. This is a safe space for me. 45 00:02:41,040 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: This is the very same place where I purchased Jack 46 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 1: Kerouacs on the road. Of course, they would sell this book, 47 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: the one I was sure that no one on the 48 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,480 Speaker 1: planet had even heard about but me. Junkie by william 49 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:53,519 Speaker 1: S Burrows. 50 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 2: And this was before Kirk Cobain had made Burrows known 51 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 2: more widely to my generation, and before I was conscious 52 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: enough to know that other rock and roll luminaries like 53 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:06,560 Speaker 2: David Bowie and Debbie Harry and Madonna and many, many, 54 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:11,080 Speaker 2: many many more had sought out and received some sort 55 00:03:11,080 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: of creative relativism from the beat writer that transcended generations. 56 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: William S Burrows. The book scared me before I even 57 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,239 Speaker 1: opened it. I knew it was about Heroin, of course, 58 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:24,119 Speaker 1: or more to the point, I knew it was about 59 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 1: a person's experience as well addicted to heroin. I was 60 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:29,639 Speaker 1: afraid the book was going to make me want to 61 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: try heroin. 62 00:03:30,639 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: It didn't. 63 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: If anything, it did the opposite. I didn't love the book. 64 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,600 Speaker 1: In fact, I'm not sure I liked it at all. 65 00:03:38,160 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 1: It wasn't enjoyable to read to this day. I can't 66 00:03:40,840 --> 00:03:43,240 Speaker 1: really remember much of it, and what I do remember, 67 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure I might be confusing with Burrows's other book, 68 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 1: Naked Lunch. William S Burrows was considered one of the 69 00:03:49,880 --> 00:03:54,360 Speaker 1: beat writers, and he certainly was, but in retrospect that 70 00:03:55,080 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: label doesn't seem entirely accurate. Sure, Burrows ran with and 71 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: worked with within a circle, I should say, for a 72 00:04:02,720 --> 00:04:06,800 Speaker 1: time within that beat circle, but zoomed out. Now with 73 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: the benefit of historical context, Williams Burrows seems like some 74 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: weird Midwest type of beat mascot. And that's to say 75 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 1: nothing negative about the Midwest. It's more about him and 76 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 1: who he was now. On the other hand, Burrows lived 77 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:25,839 Speaker 1: the life that he wrote about. His addictions defined him 78 00:04:26,400 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: even more than his transgressions, which is kind of saying 79 00:04:28,800 --> 00:04:31,360 Speaker 1: the same thing. But not when you're talking about murder 80 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:36,880 Speaker 1: or manslaughter. As the transgressions go. Is it only manslaughter 81 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:39,000 Speaker 1: when you shoot your wife in the head on accident? 82 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: Not purely by accident, but when playing a game of 83 00:04:42,320 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: William Tell The risk is so monumentally fucking stupid that 84 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:48,920 Speaker 1: it seems like there should be a step up from manslaughter, 85 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: some charge greater than manslaughter that says, this wasn't purely 86 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: an accident, and you didn't really intend on killing your wife, 87 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: but you did know she could very easily die for 88 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: your stupidity. So you're not getting the chair, but you 89 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: are getting twenty five to life something like that. 90 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: WILLIAMS. 91 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,960 Speaker 1: Burrow's got neither. He got off completely pretty much. And 92 00:05:10,120 --> 00:05:12,599 Speaker 1: the fact that he killed his wife isn't even in 93 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: the first half of his Wikipedia, but his addiction is. 94 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,840 Speaker 1: And that addiction, like I mentioned, defines his creative output, 95 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: which now as an adult, is kind of gross to me. 96 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,279 Speaker 1: But why was I so drawn to it as a teenager? 97 00:05:28,360 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: Is it just the moth to the dangerous flame thing? 98 00:05:31,080 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: Is it that simple, the attraction to the illicit? It 99 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,039 Speaker 1: sounds so stupid when I say it out loud, so pointless. 100 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: Then again, WILLIAMS. Burrows was a degenerate junkie and he 101 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: wrote his truth. And the fact that he actually got 102 00:05:44,640 --> 00:05:46,840 Speaker 1: it all down on the page, with of course the 103 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:50,320 Speaker 1: help of his more productive, career minded and generous friends, 104 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 1: Jack carrowac and Allen Ginsburg. The fact that Burrows wrote 105 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 1: anything at all something that many clear minded people try 106 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: to do and never succeed at never mind those with 107 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:03,719 Speaker 1: debilitating drug addictions. The fact that Burrows wrote anything at 108 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: all says something, I guess, But what does it say? 109 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: What does it say about me? Who was enamored of 110 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 1: the myth of william S Burrows when I was fifteen? 111 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:17,880 Speaker 1: Was I just rewarding the effort? I don't think so. 112 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: Was this what Kurt Cobain and the rest of them 113 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 1: were drawn to as well with Burrows? Or was it 114 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 1: the actual writing of william S Burrows. Art is subjective, 115 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:32,600 Speaker 1: so it's hard for anyone to know. But Burrows is writing. 116 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:35,919 Speaker 1: It doesn't breathe the same air as Jack Kerouac's novels 117 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:39,360 Speaker 1: or Alan Ginsberg's poetry, not to me anyway, And there 118 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 1: are worse things I guess to be into as a 119 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: fifteen year old than Junkie on the bubble beat writers. 120 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 1: But then again, I wasn't really into it in retrospect. 121 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: I was just trying on a shirt. I thought it 122 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 1: looked good on the rack, but it turns out it 123 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: didn't fit well, or at least not as well as 124 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,680 Speaker 1: some others that were similar Junkie. The book that I'm 125 00:06:57,680 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: talking about was heavily censored when it was first published 126 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:02,160 Speaker 1: in the nineteen fifties. 127 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 2: When it was. 128 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 1: Republished in the late seventies, it was published in its 129 00:07:06,760 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: original form. That's the edition that I read, the uncensored version. Now, 130 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: censorship in any form is ridiculous. There's a time and 131 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 1: place for everything, sure, and not every child should be 132 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: exposed to everything. That's not what I'm saying. But the 133 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: bookshelf at the Harvard Square Newbury Comics sometime in the 134 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: early nineties seems as good a place as any to 135 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:28,200 Speaker 1: fuck around and find out if junkie authors are your 136 00:07:28,200 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: thing or not. It turns out for me they weren't. 137 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: I don't really think they're anybody's thing. I think william 138 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 1: S Burrows is overrated. There I said it. I think 139 00:07:38,200 --> 00:07:40,880 Speaker 1: Kurt Cobaine, David Bowie, the rest of them. They were 140 00:07:40,920 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 1: chasing an image, a vibe, a myth, some shine off 141 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,480 Speaker 1: of a living icon who'd miraculously outlived as shelf life. 142 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: Which icons, living or dead do you think are overrated? 143 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: It could be anyone, writers, musicians, filmmakers. There are no 144 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 1: sacred cows, Williams Burrows, Beyonce, Quentin Tarantino, Jack White, who 145 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: which giant artist comes out with something new? The Internet 146 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: freaks out and you sit there going I just don't 147 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: get it. Six one seven nine oh six six six 148 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 1: three eight to let me know via voicemail or text. 149 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,880 Speaker 1: Which icons from the world of art, entertainment, history, true crime, 150 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: whatever do you think are overrated. 151 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:47,360 Speaker 2: I'll be back in a flash. All right, we are back. 152 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 1: Let's talk for a minute here about the sources that 153 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: we used for this week's episode on William S Burrows. 154 00:08:52,480 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: If you're a disco you know or you like to know, 155 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: that's the thing, right, I know you guys dive deep. 156 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: You want to know where I'm getting the information for 157 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,600 Speaker 1: the episodes. This is the part of the bonus episode 158 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:05,000 Speaker 1: where we fill you in on these sources. 159 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 2: All right. Of course, there. 160 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,240 Speaker 1: Are books that William S Burrows himself wrote, classics of 161 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: the so called beat generation that I was mentioning before. 162 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: These classics being Junkie and Naked Lunch. Right, those are 163 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,640 Speaker 1: the two Burrows books. You're going to want to read 164 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 1: those if you're curious about this guy's writing, or at 165 00:09:22,600 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: least sample them. Okay, I'm not recommending these books after 166 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:28,240 Speaker 1: I just said the guy was overrated, but you get 167 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:30,720 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. These are the two sort of pillars 168 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 1: of william S Burrows's creative output. There's also a collection 169 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 1: of his letters, a book called The Letters of William S. 170 00:09:37,360 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: Burrows nineteen forty five to nineteen fifty nine, which, as 171 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,080 Speaker 1: you know if you've heard this episode that we just did, 172 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: these letters were super helpful to get inside Burrows's head 173 00:09:48,360 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: for our editorial POV, because a lot of it is 174 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:51,679 Speaker 1: set during this time. 175 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 2: All right. 176 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,959 Speaker 1: There are two primary biographies that we use for our research, 177 00:09:55,080 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: the first being Call Me Burrows, a Life by Barry Miles, 178 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 1: and the second being Gentleman Junkie The Life and Legacy 179 00:10:01,960 --> 00:10:04,920 Speaker 1: of william S Burrows by Graham Caviny. I hope I'm 180 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 1: pronouncing that the correct way. Caviny c ave n e Y. 181 00:10:09,800 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: These books helped us uncover all kinds of wild stories 182 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,560 Speaker 1: about how Willims Burrows left his wife and child behind 183 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: to go hunt for Ohiahuasca in the jungle class Dad 184 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,800 Speaker 1: moved there, About how Burrows fought the Massachusetts Supreme Court 185 00:10:21,840 --> 00:10:24,439 Speaker 1: when his novel Naked Lunch was on trial for obscenity, 186 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: and of course all about how long before WILLIAMS Burrows 187 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,679 Speaker 1: was the literary hero that he became known as he 188 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: fatally shot his wife Joan Volmer in Mexico. We also 189 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: did a lot of searching across the internet to help 190 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:41,280 Speaker 1: us find other stuff that wasn't necessarily in those books, 191 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: whether other information that wasn't necessarily in those books, whether 192 00:10:44,440 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: it's the Kurt Cobaine interview that we reference at the 193 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: top of the episode. Sometimes these stories that come to 194 00:10:50,360 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 1: light after those biographies were published. Perhaps the stories don't 195 00:10:53,559 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: make them into the books for some reason. Sometimes we 196 00:10:56,160 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: need stuff to help fill out our own editorial point 197 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 1: of view, So of course, you know, we hit up 198 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: the articles on the internet, whatever interviews we can find, 199 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: videos with people, etc. One of those that we found 200 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: online was told from Al Jurgensen of the Great Industrial 201 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:16,160 Speaker 1: Group Ministry, who I got to say, there's an Al 202 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 1: Jorgenson episode coming for Disgrace, and at some point, I 203 00:11:18,679 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe it'll be an all access thing. There 204 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,160 Speaker 1: are just so many fucking crazy stories about Al from 205 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: his ministry days, and he's such an unreliable narrator that 206 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: it kind of makes it even more interesting to try 207 00:11:30,040 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: and figure out. Speaking of according to Al Jurgensen, he 208 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: paid a visit to WILLIAMS Burrows at Burrows's place out 209 00:11:36,880 --> 00:11:40,319 Speaker 1: in Lawrence, Kansas at this time. I believe this is 210 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:42,480 Speaker 1: in the early nineties. At this time, Williams Burrows is 211 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: eighty years old, but despite his age, he's still filling 212 00:11:46,440 --> 00:11:49,680 Speaker 1: himself up with heroin and he's shooting heroin with Al Jurgensen, 213 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:53,280 Speaker 1: and apparently, you know, the interesting thing here is he's 214 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:59,000 Speaker 1: using all this antiquated gear to shoot up this huge 215 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: He's got this huge utility belt of syringes and all 216 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: kinds of stuff you would use in the nineteen fifties 217 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,960 Speaker 1: to do heroin he's still using in the nineties. And 218 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: as they're you know, they're getting high. The story goes, 219 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: Williams Burrows is opening a letter from President Bill Clinton 220 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 1: inviting Burrows to come speak at the White House. Nuts, 221 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: just nuts. I want to find out if this is true. 222 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 1: This is according to Al Jurgenson and again unreliable narrator, 223 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: but also according to Jurgensen, Burrows when he's opening the 224 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:31,760 Speaker 1: letter and reading it, he has no idea who Bill 225 00:12:31,800 --> 00:12:35,840 Speaker 1: Clinton is. You know who the president is, who's in Congress, 226 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 1: you know what teams in the Super Bowl that year, 227 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 1: whatever's going on in the news overseas at home. Williams 228 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: Burrows was clueless to it all, just living out his 229 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: own secluded life out there in Kansas being visited by 230 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: nineties rock stars just wild. Do you believe this story? 231 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: Let me know six one seven, nine oh six, six 232 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 1: sixty three eight. A couple of you have already hit 233 00:12:57,000 --> 00:13:00,520 Speaker 1: me up on Instagram. A couple of you from Kansas 234 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: who are old enough to have had run ins with 235 00:13:03,720 --> 00:13:07,280 Speaker 1: William S Burrows back in the day. These are fascinating. 236 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:09,839 Speaker 1: It called me though, you know I got I got 237 00:13:09,840 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: the DMS. 238 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 2: But hit me up. 239 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 1: Six one seven nine oh six six six three eight. 240 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: If you're listening, you know who you are. Hit me up, 241 00:13:14,880 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 1: leave me a voicemail, or send me a text. I'll 242 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: read them here in the after party. Six one seven, 243 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:22,960 Speaker 1: nine oh six six six three eight. Also, of course, 244 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: all you guys, as I just mentioned in the previous block, 245 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 1: I want to hear which icons from the world of arts, entertainment, history, 246 00:13:32,160 --> 00:13:35,959 Speaker 1: et cetera. Which icons do you think are overrated? Let 247 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: me know six one seven, nine oh six six six 248 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,640 Speaker 1: three eight. You can send me a text, or you 249 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: can leave me a voicemail, just like this listener from 250 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: the five eight five. 251 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:46,240 Speaker 3: What up, Jake. 252 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 4: This is Jen from the five eighty five and I'm. 253 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 3: A longtime listener. I love your show so well produced 254 00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 3: you do. That's a great job y'all do. And I 255 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:02,720 Speaker 3: just recently listened to the Adrian Shelley, which I she's 256 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 3: obscure in a way that makes me love you even 257 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: more than I thought I argue did so thank you 258 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 3: so much. I watched the documentary that was about her 259 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 3: and you know, just her so just the harowing demise 260 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: that she had, and it was brilliant. And yours, your 261 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,680 Speaker 3: podcast is great and you did such a good job 262 00:14:25,800 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 3: with the content and with her legacy and everything, and 263 00:14:29,080 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 3: it was just really really moving and did a great 264 00:14:32,000 --> 00:14:35,280 Speaker 3: job and you always do so anyway, I finally wanted 265 00:14:35,280 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: to reach out and. 266 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 4: Just say what up and good job. 267 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 3: And thank you so much for all the wonderful content 268 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 3: and I just love nerding out on all of the 269 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 3: you know, the movies and the music and everything. So 270 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 3: thanks for what you do. 271 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 4: I hope you're doing well. 272 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: Rock A Rola by Jan you were the best. Thank 273 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:56,080 Speaker 1: you so much. I really appreciate you letting me and 274 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 1: the team know. 275 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: Soaked her into that episode. Thank you. Let's check out 276 00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 2: this voicemail from the seven to one to four yo Jake. 277 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:09,000 Speaker 4: Listening up to that episode about a serial killer. I 278 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,040 Speaker 4: think we all know the man has friends and low places. 279 00:15:13,720 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 4: That's the taker trade his career. 280 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: Yo seven one four. Yeah, just just to be clear, 281 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:23,600 Speaker 1: I wasn't actually saying that Garth Brooks is a serial killer. 282 00:15:23,680 --> 00:15:26,120 Speaker 1: I was putting forth a theory by Tom Segurra I 283 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 1: heard from Tom Securo, by the way, on the old 284 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: Instagram after we released that episode. We did a little 285 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: real about it as well, and he shared it, which 286 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: I thought was pretty cool, and he thanked us for 287 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:39,920 Speaker 1: doing the episode, which is awesome. But I asked you 288 00:15:39,960 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: guys in the last after party, which other musicians artists 289 00:15:46,280 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: And this is done in jest. It was a joke, 290 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: which other artist you think could possibly have the persona 291 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: to be uh a serial killer? Who is it? Is 292 00:15:54,680 --> 00:15:56,880 Speaker 1: it Kendrick Lamar? I don't think so, but some people 293 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: are saying so right now. 294 00:15:58,080 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 3: Not me. 295 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 2: I'm not one of them. 296 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: Let me you know. Six seven nine six six six 297 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:05,600 Speaker 1: three eight three one oh comes in with this voicemail. 298 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 3: Hey, this is Ury. 299 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,160 Speaker 4: From this west of the four oh five. I have 300 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 4: been at Garth Brooks fan since I was probably fourteen 301 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:18,720 Speaker 4: years old when his first two albums came out, and 302 00:16:18,880 --> 00:16:21,880 Speaker 4: I loved the show. I thought it was great. I 303 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 4: had never heard this before. I knew that it was, 304 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 4: you know, based off of something else, but I still 305 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 4: thought I had to listen through it all the way 306 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 4: through to the end, and I loved how you took 307 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,760 Speaker 4: it all the way to the end until you told 308 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 4: the story of where it came from. So excellent job. 309 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 4: I really enjoyed it. And you know, as far as 310 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 4: another person who could be a serial killer, I'm gonna 311 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 4: have to go with Wayne Newton, all right. Think about this. 312 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 4: He keeps a low profile and he lives in the desert. 313 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 4: You never see the man leave Bakers Why because bodies 314 00:17:02,800 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 4: don't deteriorate in the desert. That's it. Thanks, man, have 315 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 4: a good one three one zero. 316 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 1: I appreciate the voicemail. I'm a little scared of your 317 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:14,720 Speaker 1: knowledge of what bodies do and don't do in the desert. 318 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:18,239 Speaker 1: In the desert, so you know, lose my number three 319 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:21,560 Speaker 1: one No, No, I'm kidding Wayne Newton. Have you, dude, 320 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:25,040 Speaker 1: have you ever seen pictures of Wayne Newton when he 321 00:17:25,080 --> 00:17:30,240 Speaker 1: was a young artist. Wow, just amazing. I have no words. 322 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:33,000 Speaker 1: I have no words. Anyways, I'm glad the Garth Brooks fans, 323 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 1: Doug the little piss we took out of Garth Brooks 324 00:17:35,960 --> 00:17:38,400 Speaker 1: there in that in that episode. Thank you so much. 325 00:17:38,920 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: Let's do one more here before this topic goes dry. 326 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: This one from the six to so four. 327 00:17:43,560 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 3: Hey, Jake Jeff commenting on who is a serial killer? 328 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: Uh? 329 00:17:49,680 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: In uh? Music industry wise. 330 00:17:53,640 --> 00:18:00,200 Speaker 4: More proved me wrong. He could see the guy just shot. 331 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:01,840 Speaker 1: People. 332 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 4: It's like, oh, fucking creepy, bullshit, pretentious body Dyer. 333 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 3: He's a total serial killer. 334 00:18:10,160 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, six o four Marsy as a serial killer, 335 00:18:13,600 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's not something that strikes me as completely unbelievable. 336 00:18:18,800 --> 00:18:22,560 Speaker 1: And yes, Marcy is completely pretentious. And I spent a 337 00:18:22,560 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: good part of my youth, probably when I was reading 338 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 1: Junkie by William S. Burrows, hating on Marssey. But the 339 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 1: fact of the matter is I fucking love Marsey. I 340 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,760 Speaker 1: love his music. I love his solo music, I love 341 00:18:36,800 --> 00:18:41,080 Speaker 1: the Smiths. I love how pretentious it is. It's it's 342 00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 1: just I don't know, man, I don't know. Give it 343 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 1: another shot, that's all I'll say that's all. I'll say 344 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: six to oh four. Think of it, you know. And 345 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 1: now as I listened to at six oh four, I'm 346 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 1: gonna be listening to it from from Marsey's point of 347 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,400 Speaker 1: view as a serial killer, and I guarantee you it's 348 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:58,239 Speaker 1: gonna make me like it even more, all right, six 349 00:18:58,359 --> 00:19:01,240 Speaker 1: one seven nine oh six, six six three. Voicemail and text. 350 00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: I did a lot of voicemails. Let's do some texts here, 351 00:19:03,600 --> 00:19:05,840 Speaker 1: This one from the three oh three. Hey, maybe Garth 352 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 1: Brooks is not a serial killer. Maybe one of his 353 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: road crew is. Gotta consider all the possibilities. Yes, we do, 354 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: three oh three. That seems like an obvious one. One 355 00:19:13,160 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 1: that would have completely fucked up our story, which is 356 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: why we did not consider it the five three zero rights. 357 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: And Hey, regarding serial killer music artists, here are a few. 358 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,200 Speaker 1: Nick Cave, Britney Spears, Henry Rollins, and Aaron Neville. Okay, 359 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through these first impressions. Nick Cave, No way, 360 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 1: Nick Cave is a god fearing man in his bones. 361 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:38,160 Speaker 1: I believe that Britney Spears. Okay, Okay, you know I'm 362 00:19:38,240 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: pausing and I'm thinking about Britney spears being a serial killer, 363 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: and I just don't think the uh, what is it 364 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: the I'll put it, I'll put it nicely. I don't 365 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:49,600 Speaker 1: think the hard drive is there. If you know what 366 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Henry Rollins too obvious. 367 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 2: Uh huh. 368 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: And I believe Rollins is a good guy at heart. 369 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: Aaron Neville, I don't know what the fuck you're talking 370 00:19:57,200 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 1: about with Aaron Neville. So write me back five three 371 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,080 Speaker 1: ozho and let me know, make the case that Aaron 372 00:20:01,119 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 1: Neville is a serial killer. Lots of people, lots of people, 373 00:20:05,560 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 1: lots of people writing in to say that Marilyn Manson 374 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: is a serial killer. And you know it's a bit 375 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:13,440 Speaker 1: too on the nose. If you're a serial killer, would 376 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 1: you really go through life parading around as Marilyn Manson? 377 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: But then again, maybe you just have insane hubris and 378 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: that's why you go around through life parading yourself as 379 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 1: Marilyn Manson. 380 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:21,679 Speaker 2: I don't know. 381 00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: You might be onto something nine one nine rights saying, hey, 382 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 1: just listen to the Steve McQueen episode, and I agree 383 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: that he is at the pinnacle of cool. One I 384 00:20:28,800 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: would put ahead and before him would have to be 385 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,399 Speaker 1: Humphrey Bogart cool before cool. 386 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 2: Was the word. I love that. I love that take. 387 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 1: It says not sure if McQueen was influenced by Bogey's 388 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: laid back, give a fuck tough guy persona, but can't 389 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: argue that they both had that presence in a fuck you, 390 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 1: it's my world, You're in it mindset. Wow, great take 391 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:52,199 Speaker 1: nine one nine. I absolutely, one hundred percent believe that 392 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: McQueen was influenced by Bogart, especially when it comes to cool. 393 00:20:56,960 --> 00:20:59,600 Speaker 1: And I love what you say there, cool before we 394 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: had a word for it. I get into this that 395 00:21:01,920 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: concept actually in our Miles Davis episodes, and I get 396 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 1: into it in some depth. So you might want to 397 00:21:09,400 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 1: check those out if you haven't already, because it really 398 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:15,080 Speaker 1: deals with the birth of cool, so to speak. All Right, 399 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a quick break. 400 00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 2: I'll be back in a flash. 401 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,159 Speaker 1: All right, everybody, we are back. And I got to 402 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: say that we are missing you. We're missing you like 403 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 1: Mick Jagger missed Keith Richards back in the late seventies. 404 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: In the early eighties, we're missing you, like Frank Sinatra 405 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 1: missed Ava Gardner. We're missing you like like Jake Gillenhall 406 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,639 Speaker 1: missus Taylor Sweat. Okay, maybe not that last one. 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