1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:01,800 Speaker 1: Okay, guys, here are my dates for the High and 2 00:00:01,840 --> 00:00:05,399 Speaker 1: Mighty Tour. In June, I will be in Hyannas, Massachusetts, 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:10,960 Speaker 1: and then two shows in Nantucket. In August, you can 4 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 1: find me in Red Bank, New Jersey, Montclair, New Jersey, 5 00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:14,520 Speaker 1: and Calgary. 6 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 2: That's Canada. 7 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: And September I will be in Santa Barbara, San Diego, 8 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: New York City, Philly, and New Haven, Connecticut. October is Atlanta, Baltimore, Saginaw, Michigan, Pittsburgh, Toronto, Boise, Idaho, 9 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:32,880 Speaker 1: and Spokane. And then in November I'll be in San Francisco. 10 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:36,520 Speaker 1: I'm coming to Salt Lake City, Austin, Houston, Dallas Babies, 11 00:00:36,600 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 1: I'll be there. And then in December I am closing 12 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,879 Speaker 1: out my tour in Denver and Vancouver. So get your 13 00:00:42,880 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 1: tickets at Chelseahandler dot com for the High and Mighty Tour. 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:54,800 Speaker 2: Hello Hi, Chelsea, hiy Hi, what's happening? What is happening? 15 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:56,280 Speaker 1: You have a different makeup on today? 16 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 2: I do. 17 00:00:57,400 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 3: I never do lip gloss, but I did and I 18 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:01,560 Speaker 3: will like I found myself in the car even though 19 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 3: my hair is too short for it to blow into 20 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 3: my lip gloss. 21 00:01:03,640 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 2: I was like leaning away from the window. 22 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 3: I'm like, this is not I don't know. 23 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: I'm not usually lop class. You know how I feel 24 00:01:08,880 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: about lip gloss. 25 00:01:09,840 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: I feel the same way, but I always feel on 26 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 1: I put yeah, yeah. 27 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,280 Speaker 2: Yes, but gloss is like a little. 28 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, lip gloss ends up getting a lot of too, 29 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:19,679 Speaker 1: a lot of other places. 30 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: Other than your lips. 31 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: Yes, unfortunately, yes it tends to I like a map finish. 32 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:27,640 Speaker 2: Is how I feel. That's how I feel about esthetics 33 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:29,240 Speaker 2: in general. I like a map finish. 34 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 3: You like to be glammed up, Like when you're at 35 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 3: like a show, an awards show, are you kind of like. 36 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:35,319 Speaker 2: You could take it or leave it. 37 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: I could take it or leave it. But I do 38 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:38,759 Speaker 1: appreciate when I look like at the Roast, Like I 39 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: loved the way that I. 40 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 2: Looked when I sit and when I saw videos. 41 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: Of that, like I was like, wow, you look really good. 42 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,480 Speaker 1: So when I say myself or like critics' choice, when 43 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,640 Speaker 1: I get really glad, remember once in a while, I'm 44 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: like wow, yeah, you know, like with the hair, they'll 45 00:01:52,040 --> 00:01:54,080 Speaker 1: do something and they add pieces and you look like 46 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: a completely different person or ten years younger. I'm like, 47 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: I think the volume of hair can really take off age. Oh, 48 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,040 Speaker 1: for sure, sakes, you look pressure more vibrant. 49 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: So I like that. 50 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: But I mean, yeah, I'm not really one for sitting 51 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 1: around getting my hair and makeup done. 52 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,639 Speaker 3: You're not like a Chris Jenner is like every morning. 53 00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 2: No, I could never do that. 54 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: But then I look at what I create on my 55 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: own and it's a hot mess. 56 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: So you know, I don't know what. 57 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:17,360 Speaker 4: I don't know. 58 00:02:17,600 --> 00:02:19,200 Speaker 1: I'd like to be on vacation with a little tan 59 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:20,680 Speaker 1: and then I don't have to worry about anything. 60 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 61 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:23,840 Speaker 3: Well you know who did arrive looking on point with 62 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:24,800 Speaker 3: our guests this week? 63 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:26,079 Speaker 2: I listen. 64 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,880 Speaker 3: I have to tell you I was so pleased because 65 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:30,920 Speaker 3: she pulled up in a Bentley And I have a 66 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:32,959 Speaker 3: little bit of a thing of like, if you're driving 67 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:36,880 Speaker 3: your own Bentley, that's like not how it's supposed to work. Like, 68 00:02:36,880 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 3: if you have a Bentley, someone should be driving. 69 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: And somebody was driving her Bentley. 70 00:02:40,560 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 3: She got out of the passenger side and I had 71 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 3: to say, good job, girl. 72 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:44,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, good job. 73 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:48,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a hot mess. Great and her name, well, 74 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: she's an influencer. She's a former MTV mischief maker, and 75 00:02:51,760 --> 00:02:55,440 Speaker 1: her new podcast is called brand Safe, which is out now, 76 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 1: Please welcome Tana Monge. Are we rolling because. 77 00:02:59,480 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 3: I want to? 78 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:04,359 Speaker 2: Is the question? Here's a question question. 79 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:07,200 Speaker 1: I have been mispronouncing this woman's name ever since I 80 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:09,720 Speaker 1: met her, and we're gonna tell her og story because 81 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:15,280 Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. And I've been calling her Tala Mangano, which 82 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: is close to calling her MONGOLOI mang Chelsea. 83 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:21,080 Speaker 2: Can I tell you something? 84 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 5: I feel like if one day you called me and 85 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 5: you were like, well, you wouldn't call me, You'd send 86 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,000 Speaker 5: me a video and you'd be like high in bed. 87 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:29,160 Speaker 5: If you called me and you were like, hey, Tana, 88 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 5: I would be like, what did I do? 89 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 4: Like I. 90 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,320 Speaker 5: Feel in trouble almost right, Well, you would be in 91 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:36,560 Speaker 5: trouble if I called you? 92 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 2: Well yeah, I mean I would I leave you video 93 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 2: which I live. By the way, I've logged to you, 94 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 2: and it's funny because sometimes you'll send me one and I'm. 95 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: Like, you get that microphone a little bit farther away 96 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: from your mouth. 97 00:03:46,600 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 2: You don't. I'm eat it. I'm a star, are you always? 98 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:55,840 Speaker 1: I have a banana on the way Bana allowed to 99 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 1: have one banana per day. 100 00:03:57,040 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 2: Well, yeah, that's kind of what my conservator tells me. 101 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:00,280 Speaker 2: You know I should. 102 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: Okay, let's get your name. It's Tauna. 103 00:04:04,120 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: It's Tanna. It's Tanna. 104 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: But you what I'm saying? 105 00:04:08,280 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 5: I again, I think that if you really hit me 106 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 5: with a Tana, I would be in trouble. 107 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:14,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Why do I think it's Tauna because I just. 108 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,200 Speaker 2: Chelsea, I don't know it's Tana, but she thought it 109 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 2: was just my pronunciation. You know what actually it is, though? 110 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 5: Is that phonetically it is Tauna like Lana l A 111 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 5: n A h A n a would be like right, 112 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 5: right right, you know what I mean? So I my 113 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 5: parents kind of but I you know, they weren't really 114 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 5: phonetic people. 115 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 1: Okay, Well you don't even talk to your parents at all? 116 00:04:35,000 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 5: No, Okay, and if I did, I guess I wouldn't 117 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 5: really lead with phonics. 118 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 2: I have a few more issues to kind of. 119 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: You know that? 120 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:41,640 Speaker 4: Good? 121 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: Okay, So it's Mojo Monjo, Mojo, mojo jo. 122 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: Yes, it's French. 123 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,760 Speaker 5: It's giving face smashed on keyboard for sure. 124 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 2: It's giving a little New Orleans that so deeply French 125 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 2: quarter New Orleans. 126 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 5: Okay, you know take that. I used to really hate 127 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 5: New Orleans, but I've been I don't know. I was 128 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 5: roofed there a lot, like you know. 129 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 2: That'll do it for Yeah, I had I only have fondness. 130 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:10,359 Speaker 1: I mean, well not only, but one of my fond 131 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:13,360 Speaker 1: memories of New Orleans is that was when fifty cent 132 00:05:13,400 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 1: and I accidentally debuted our relationship. 133 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 2: And they're gonna say accidentally dated. I left saying accident. 134 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: Well that was an accident too, So I mean all 135 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: dating is pretty much an accident. 136 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: It really is, honest, until you. 137 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: Get into like the sixth, sixth or seventh week of it, 138 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: and then it becomes intentional. Like when you're meeting someone 139 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 1: and getting to know them, that is kind of accidental 140 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 1: in the beginning initially. 141 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 5: So were you in the accidental stage with fifty in 142 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 5: New Orleans? 143 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, because he was like, I I'll come wherever you are. 144 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: Where are you going to be? And I was like, 145 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 1: I'm going to be in New Orleans. I have a 146 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,640 Speaker 1: show this weekend and you're welcome to come, but like 147 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,840 Speaker 1: you know, I don't I'm not guaranteeing anything. And so 148 00:05:48,920 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: he got a room and he came with his security guard, 149 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: and I said, let's go for a walk on the street. 150 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: And he was like, I can't do that. And I 151 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 1: was like, let's go for a walk in the street, 152 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:04,240 Speaker 1: like you can do it, and he couldn't do that 153 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: because we walked outside and it was a fucking shit show. 154 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:08,920 Speaker 5: It's so fucked up when you tell me a story 155 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:11,000 Speaker 5: because I have to sit and smile like I don't 156 00:06:11,040 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 5: know it, like I'm not a fucking murderer, and I'm like, 157 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 5: oh my god, that's so funny. I totally haven't consumed that, 158 00:06:16,080 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 5: like seventy thousand times. 159 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:20,920 Speaker 1: Let's get to our art, let's get to me, let's 160 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: get to our og story so people understand our dynamic 161 00:06:23,600 --> 00:06:26,039 Speaker 1: because it's abusive. And I just want to say that 162 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 1: I'm abusive to her because she's ridiculous and it's out 163 00:06:29,360 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 1: of love. I wouldn't abuse you if I didn't love you. 164 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 1: I don't know that. I know you know that, but 165 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 1: just explaining to anyone who might be a new listener, Yes. 166 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 5: But I love Like even the other day, I was 167 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:40,039 Speaker 5: talking about that in the car and I was like, 168 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,240 Speaker 5: I find it so sweet obviously that you even take 169 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 5: the time. And then I know that when you love someone, 170 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 5: you'll like give them a little bit of shit. 171 00:06:46,520 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 2: That means you're on the. 172 00:06:47,320 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 5: Good side with you. So it's just I don't know, 173 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 5: it's beautiful. But it did start with me stalking you down. 174 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, well kind of we were on the same but 175 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:55,479 Speaker 2: you weren't stalking me. Yeah. 176 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 5: We I like, actually, I did just book a ticket 177 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 5: on a flight that you were on. But then I 178 00:07:00,440 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 5: got to the airport and I went into psychosis. 179 00:07:03,080 --> 00:07:04,520 Speaker 2: And I think that's important. 180 00:07:04,839 --> 00:07:07,520 Speaker 1: We were at Jet Suite in Vegas because I was 181 00:07:07,560 --> 00:07:09,479 Speaker 1: coming from my show in Vegas and you were in 182 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: We were in the little lounge of Jet Suite. Have 183 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: you flown Jet Sweet No, but the most way to fly. Unfortunately, 184 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:18,240 Speaker 1: they don't fly everywhere. It's more regional right now, but 185 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 1: they do kind of have some flights across country. But 186 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 1: you can bring your dog and you can I'm supposed anyway, 187 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 1: I saw out of the corner of my eye, like 188 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,640 Speaker 1: the age range of a girl that and I saw 189 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: her reaction that. I was like, she was like, I 190 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 1: can tell she is a fan, and I was like, okay, 191 00:07:38,520 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, and I'm right right, and I saw it, 192 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,880 Speaker 1: but I was also, it's Vegas. It's the morning, I'm hungover, 193 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: I'm trying to get out of there. 194 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:46,840 Speaker 2: You're also not going to go up to someone and say, 195 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 2: do you know me? Are you a fan? 196 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: So I just saw it, but I and then she 197 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 1: got up and removed herself from. 198 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 5: Because I had to, like one. I was like, I 199 00:07:57,600 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 5: have to remove myself from this airport right now, or 200 00:07:59,400 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 5: I'm going to at this woman who actually just does 201 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 5: not know me, you know what I mean. I don't 202 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 5: know her, she doesn't know me. I was like assaulting 203 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 5: my boyfriend. I'm grabbing his arm. I was like, let 204 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 5: me just walk outside, let me take a breath, because 205 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,320 Speaker 5: you just when you're leaving Vegas, you're already in a 206 00:08:11,360 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 5: mentality where it's like, get me the fuck out of here. 207 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 5: I feel dirty, I feel gross, like I don't want 208 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 5: to be here. And then I walk into the airport 209 00:08:17,840 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 5: and I just look a mess and I'm like, oh 210 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 5: my god, that's my idol, like just sitting over there, 211 00:08:21,680 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 5: and I was like, I don't know, just freaking the 212 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:24,720 Speaker 5: fuck out. 213 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 2: Well, that's really sweet and cute. 214 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: I don't know what you're doing with your leg, but 215 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: you need to get comfortable because this is like up 216 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:38,840 Speaker 1: here and you community, Okay, I apologize to the scoliosis community. 217 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: It's good to just apologize in the moment I've been learning. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 218 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 2: absolutely ahead of it. 219 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know if that explains you're sitting, 220 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: but okay, we'll go with that. I mean, I don't 221 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:49,360 Speaker 1: even know if I believe you. Quite frankly, well. 222 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 2: I'm speedbawling right now. 223 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 5: Also because whenever I see Chelsea, there is like I 224 00:08:54,760 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 5: have to consume a certain amount of things before I 225 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 5: see you. 226 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 2: What did you take today? I started with a red Bull. 227 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 2: I was like, let mena wake up, let me. I 228 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 2: was watching. 229 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:06,559 Speaker 5: Someone like eleven am too. It's just like Jesus, you. 230 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: Know, that's the only time you would need a red 231 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,280 Speaker 1: Bull to be honest, like, I'm not having a red 232 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: Bull at five o'clock at night. 233 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 5: And also I should be awake by eleven am. I'm 234 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 5: just not a morning part right, okay, you know. And 235 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 5: then the x an x the quarterbar before I see 236 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 5: you every time, and honestly, to be real with you, 237 00:09:20,400 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 5: I could use another one, but it's still not enough. 238 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: I love that you take xanax and are out and about. 239 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:27,040 Speaker 1: Like if I take a xanx I go to bed, it. 240 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 5: Gives me energy, weirdly, which I think says so much 241 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 5: about your Like, what do you mean that I take 242 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:34,600 Speaker 5: ax and I'm like cleaning the house. 243 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: It's like if someone takes an adderall and it doesn't 244 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 1: impact them, it's because. 245 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: Wait, what is the reason I have ADHD? 246 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: If you know, Yeah, if you don't feel anything, you 247 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:47,560 Speaker 1: have ADHD. But if you do feel something, you yeah, 248 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: if you feel up from it, yeah, And that. 249 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 2: Means you're just partying on directly. Yes, do you like adderall? 250 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 2: I don't really I like adderall. 251 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:58,559 Speaker 5: But then sometimes I'm like counting my pores and I'm like, okay. 252 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, like it's it's meth. I don't like to 253 00:10:00,800 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: be amped. But I've been taking a Celsius. I've taken 254 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: to Celia. I love taking Celsius. I've been taking I 255 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:09,440 Speaker 1: wanted to say I've taken too Celsius recently. I have 256 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 1: these little brain energy drinks that I drink that are healthy, 257 00:10:12,440 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 1: and but I've started taking like, instead of one, I've 258 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 1: been taking two or three because my engine is. 259 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,400 Speaker 2: Like really running low right now in this moment. 260 00:10:20,480 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 1: And so I this morning I had a Celsius and 261 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,880 Speaker 1: then I had natural plant based caffeine and so I'm 262 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 1: wide awake but also asleep. 263 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,160 Speaker 2: I call those the sad zoomies. 264 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 5: Uh huh, like where it's like the coffee is coursing 265 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 5: through your veins but you're still sad about it and 266 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 5: it like still kind of hurts. 267 00:10:38,200 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 2: My eyes hurt. Yeah, I do. My eyes hurt. My 268 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 2: eyes always hurt. 269 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 4: I don't. 270 00:10:42,080 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 5: I don't think I like being awake, but you just 271 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 5: point blank myrious, like my favorite pastime is sleeping. 272 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:51,000 Speaker 1: Let me give you some background on Tana. 273 00:10:51,000 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: This is what I know. 274 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 1: She is a She is the definition of an influencer. 275 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:57,360 Speaker 1: You're the ultimate influencer. 276 00:10:58,040 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 5: I was gonna say that's really nice, but the come 277 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:01,840 Speaker 5: from you and also my feeling. 278 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: Well, no, I mean, I'm just saying it plainly because 279 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:07,360 Speaker 1: that's true. You have built a career on being an influencer, 280 00:11:07,679 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: and you've also had like a whole journey. I've given 281 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: up on not using the word journey because I can't 282 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: find a replacement word. 283 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,080 Speaker 2: I think journey is pretty accurate. 284 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 1: I know, I just find it to be a little 285 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 1: bit corny. 286 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,439 Speaker 5: Yeah, journey, And like my journey in question is like 287 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:26,599 Speaker 5: getting arrested at Coachella. Tell yourself, yeah, journey does insinuate 288 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 5: something yeah, Rander. 289 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 1: So one of the things you're you stopped drinking, and 290 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: that was and this is something we have in common. 291 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: So I understand why you feel a kindred spirit with 292 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,560 Speaker 1: me because I also am a professional drinker. 293 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: I thought you're about to say you stopped drinking. No, 294 00:11:44,400 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm relapsing. No, I'm not drink something's wrong. 295 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 2: I'm not giving up on alcohol. 296 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: We have an understanding, and please don't we get each 297 00:11:52,320 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: other like the people need it. But I understand when 298 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: when I met you, You're like, oh, I stopped drinking, 299 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,720 Speaker 1: and this is kind of like my idea, not not 300 00:11:58,760 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 1: your whole identity, but a big part of who you are. 301 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: And you share a lot of information about your personal life, 302 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: as I have done my entire life, and I like that. 303 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,679 Speaker 1: I think that that's very genuine, and I think that 304 00:12:08,679 --> 00:12:11,960 Speaker 1: that's important because so many people are putting out this 305 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: kind of like persona of themselves. And that's fine if 306 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 1: you're an actor and you want your privacy, or if 307 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:20,440 Speaker 1: you're I don't know, I don't know what other fields 308 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,600 Speaker 1: of interest where you're not, you don't necessarily want to 309 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,559 Speaker 1: be transparent about who you are. But I really relate 310 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: to people who are themselves and who can be in 311 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 1: a who can be a hot mess on camera and off, 312 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because it's not an act. 313 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,880 Speaker 2: I mean, you're a hot mess with or without drinking. 314 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:37,880 Speaker 5: So I made the drinking because I was just thinking 315 00:12:37,920 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 5: about that too, Like I mean, first of all, I'm 316 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 5: so happy that I met you in a time of 317 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,240 Speaker 5: my life that I'm not drinking, because I think that 318 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 5: my drunk brain would have been like I could keep 319 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 5: up with Chelsea and like jaw swinging, and I would 320 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 5: have been trying to keep up with you, and I 321 00:12:51,679 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 5: would have just like I would have had to kill myself. 322 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 5: It would have been so embarrassing what I would have done. 323 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,760 Speaker 5: So I definitely am like grateful for that in that regard, 324 00:12:59,800 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 5: but still a hot mess for sure. I think for 325 00:13:01,360 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 5: a long time, I tied my identity so much to 326 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,599 Speaker 5: like alcohol, and I almost had this thought process that 327 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 5: if I wasn't partying and having those type of stories, 328 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 5: that no one would be interested. And it like my 329 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 5: identity was so tied to it, I guess, And yes, 330 00:13:15,440 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 5: I'm happy to know that I can still bring the 331 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 5: hot mess and it's just who I am and I 332 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:21,880 Speaker 5: was thinking about that today because in Vegas when I 333 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 5: was with you last I packed and I didn't try 334 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 5: on my outfit and I brought this skirt and my 335 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,199 Speaker 5: asshole was just out the entire in your asshole out 336 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 5: a long, yes, like you've seen my asshole more than 337 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 5: you haven't. And I was like, you know what, Yeah, 338 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 5: it's not the alcohol, like, that's just it's me. 339 00:13:36,880 --> 00:13:40,040 Speaker 1: And you're in love now too, Yes, you're you're I 340 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: mean your Instagram is filled with naked pictures, like your 341 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: skirt comes up to hear and not that I'm you 342 00:13:45,080 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: know who am I to tought? Obviously I'm naked all 343 00:13:46,800 --> 00:13:48,800 Speaker 1: the time too, So it's not a judgment, it's just 344 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,320 Speaker 1: a clarification, yest. 345 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I think I think people have gathered that for sure. 346 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 5: I'm definitely naked. 347 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're naked and you like it and I too, 348 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,720 Speaker 1: and then and that's fine. Why why wouldn't you? 349 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,320 Speaker 2: Why don't like duality these days? 350 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 5: You know, sometimes it's a turtleneck and sometimes it's whole out. 351 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, and we don't always know what we're gonna do. 352 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 3: Well, like recently you posted a picture you were like 353 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 3: lying on a table at a party, but like you 354 00:14:08,120 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 3: had a napkin covering your behind, so. 355 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: It was like hold out to keep it classic, right. 356 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 1: Was it a panteliner? 357 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 5: No? I think it was like a dirty napkin that 358 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,320 Speaker 5: I wiped the taffalo sauce on like thirty seconds prior. 359 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: And some things just do. Yeah, they never change. But 360 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 2: what does your boyfriend think about you and your behavior? 361 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 5: He is truly the most patient person I have ever met, 362 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 5: and I definitely have these moments where I'm like radicalized. 363 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,560 Speaker 5: I'm like you should leave me, Like I put him 364 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:37,360 Speaker 5: through and he loves it and I don't know how 365 00:14:37,480 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 5: or why, and I think that's where I feel very lucky. 366 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: But he is. 367 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:44,800 Speaker 5: He's the sound, responsible guy who like loves the entertainment 368 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 5: of me. And it's even right now, I'm like I 369 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 5: was fostering a dog. I failed. I adopted him. The 370 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:55,240 Speaker 5: dog's pissing everywhere. He's like, was this really the best idea? Like, 371 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:56,880 Speaker 5: and I'm just but I'm like, I. 372 00:14:56,840 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 2: Bring the whimsy. Yeah, yeah, you bring the care. That's 373 00:14:59,320 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 2: what I tell myself to sleep at night. 374 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 1: Well, yeah, the guy I'm dating, so it calls me 375 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:03,720 Speaker 1: a sexy tornado. 376 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 2: I am. So that's honestly an amazing compliment. It is. 377 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: I like to be a sexy tornado. That's exactly what 378 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:10,960 Speaker 1: I was aiming to do in life. 379 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:12,360 Speaker 2: Yes, one hundred yeah. 380 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 1: So I feel like you might be in a similar 381 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: situation because you're a boyfriend's Hawaiian, so it takes you 382 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 1: to Hawaii quite often. 383 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 2: Did you just buy a place there? 384 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 3: Yes? 385 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:19,760 Speaker 2: I did, yeah, so. 386 00:15:19,800 --> 00:15:23,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, and that's it's so nice to just go there 387 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 5: and remember that LA is kind of just this fake 388 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 5: bubble and like this and love LA for what it is, 389 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 5: but like meet people with values and meet people who 390 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,880 Speaker 5: are just they're calmer, they're just I've never had chill 391 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 5: a day in my life. I'm from Las Vegas. I 392 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 5: moved to LA. Like I'm going one hundred miles a minute, 393 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 5: I'm screaming, my hole is out, like, you know, just 394 00:15:44,920 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 5: it's nice to have the calm mixed in. 395 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 1: I saw something Mini Driver posted just talking about how 396 00:15:50,520 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: everyone should go to Hawaii at some point in their 397 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: life because how peaceful and magical the land is, which 398 00:15:55,040 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 1: is true, like when you go there, you do have 399 00:15:56,480 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: a feeling that you don't feel elsewhere, Like you can't 400 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: compare Hawaii to another place really that I visited, Like, 401 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: I agree, even though like the topography or like climate 402 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 1: would be the same or similar in like Bali, it's 403 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 1: totally different, yeah, than Hawaii Hawaii, you know, like all 404 00:16:11,400 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: of the stuff is different, and Hawaii is singular in 405 00:16:14,120 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: that I think, like, and there's a very healing vibe 406 00:16:16,760 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: that you get when you get off the plane in 407 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 1: a Hawaii and they hand you a lay and you're like, 408 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,200 Speaker 1: am I on the fucking love boat? 409 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:22,360 Speaker 3: Right? 410 00:16:22,440 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 4: Yes? 411 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:23,920 Speaker 2: You know I don't deserve this. 412 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:25,760 Speaker 5: Take the lay off me, you know what I mean, like, 413 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 5: give it to someone exactly. 414 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 1: You're like, this must have taken a lot of time 415 00:16:28,840 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: and how did you? 416 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: And I'm where? 417 00:16:30,720 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 3: Yeah? 418 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 1: And then I'm like and it smells so fresh and 419 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: it really sets the tone for your trip. 420 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, and I'm wearing like a buffalo sauce stained allo 421 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 5: hoodie and it's like someone else deserves What do you. 422 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:41,920 Speaker 2: Do with all your lays when you get off the plane? 423 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 5: They stopped doing it at the airport, and they mainly 424 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 5: will do it at like resorts and stuff like that. 425 00:16:47,720 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 2: But people put them in the fridge. 426 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 5: They preserve them, like I preserved a feel I didn't 427 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 5: know I was a preserver until I met him, Like 428 00:16:54,080 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 5: you met him. 429 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: That's another good one, and it is just great. 430 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:00,320 Speaker 5: I mean, I think that the thing I love the 431 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 5: most about him is how responsible he is. And I 432 00:17:02,240 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 5: think that when you are at least when I was 433 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 5: writing out a list of things that I wanted in 434 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,240 Speaker 5: a partner or would find sexy and find attractive my 435 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 5: whole life. 436 00:17:10,640 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 2: I was never really I want a responsible. 437 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:15,359 Speaker 5: Man, like I think he was everything that I didn't 438 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 5: know I needed, which is beautiful in that way. You know, 439 00:17:18,200 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 5: you think you know exactly what you want in a partner, 440 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 5: and it's almost like we are opposites in a lot 441 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,560 Speaker 5: of ways, but it like works. Yeah, there's there's a 442 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,919 Speaker 5: yin and a yang that balance out. 443 00:17:28,000 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, because two hot message don't work together at all. 444 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,720 Speaker 5: And I think for so long I wanted that and 445 00:17:31,760 --> 00:17:33,840 Speaker 5: then it's like, wait, yeah I did too. My boyfriend's 446 00:17:33,880 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 5: like TikTok dancing and cheating on me on Snapchat And 447 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,720 Speaker 5: where how did I get here? 448 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 3: You know, do you have fitness and wellness questions? Well, 449 00:17:41,840 --> 00:17:44,159 Speaker 3: Chelsea's personal trainer Ben Bruno is about to guess on 450 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:47,119 Speaker 3: an episode, So right into Dear Chelsea podcast at gmail 451 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: dot com with all your fitness and wellness questions. 452 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: I want to talk about your new podcast, which is 453 00:17:55,359 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 1: called brand Safe. 454 00:17:56,760 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 5: This is actually the first time I'm talking it. 455 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:02,359 Speaker 1: Okay, this is very exciting. So I'm gonna throw up 456 00:18:02,400 --> 00:18:04,760 Speaker 1: because you've been talking about this a lot to me personally, 457 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: but talking about launching this podcast. It's called brand Safe, 458 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: and you've had, You've come from two other successful podcasts, 459 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: one of which you ended, one of which you're still 460 00:18:13,240 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: doing right, yes, yes, okay, So do you want to 461 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about those two podcasts at all, 462 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,640 Speaker 1: why you ended one, why you decided to start one 463 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: on your own. 464 00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:23,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, let's go. 465 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,880 Speaker 5: I mean, so Canceled is the one that ended, and 466 00:18:27,000 --> 00:18:30,560 Speaker 5: it was like such a magical time. I look at 467 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 5: it as this like really fucked up scrap book that 468 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 5: I get to show my kids one day. And we 469 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 5: were just young and party. I was partying a lot, 470 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 5: at least in Los Angeles and kind of coming on 471 00:18:41,880 --> 00:18:45,240 Speaker 5: and just airing people out. Like I was definitely a 472 00:18:45,240 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 5: lot crazier in that regard. I was going out and 473 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 5: I would always say I was collecting more, you know. 474 00:18:49,359 --> 00:18:51,679 Speaker 2: I was kind of like my Chelsea lately. Yeah, you 475 00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:52,360 Speaker 2: were canceled. 476 00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 5: That's funny because today when we shoot Brand Safe, that 477 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 5: was one thing I wanted to talk to you a 478 00:18:57,040 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 5: lot about, is just all of the different reinventions and 479 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 5: rebirths you've had and how you and if you hold 480 00:19:02,520 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 5: hands with all of these different eras that you've had 481 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,919 Speaker 5: and stuff, because I find that very interesting and that's 482 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 5: how I feel now that I'm in this reworth. But 483 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,080 Speaker 5: I could have never gotten here without that girl. And 484 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 5: she was very messy, and she did a lot of 485 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,400 Speaker 5: things that I need to make reparations for probably until 486 00:19:17,440 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 5: the day I die, right yea, yeah, But it was 487 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,720 Speaker 5: very entertaining and it was an amazing time. And then 488 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 5: just towards the end of it, I did I got sober, 489 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,919 Speaker 5: I fell in love. I was talking about green juice 490 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 5: and like my ibs and like I didn't have the 491 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:35,399 Speaker 5: interesting chaotic things to bring to the table as much, 492 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 5: you know, and broke my co host same things. 493 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 2: She got married, and it just it. 494 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 5: Became this like beautiful ending where we ran off into 495 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:45,080 Speaker 5: the sunset and it was time to end it, you 496 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:46,560 Speaker 5: know what I mean. And it was just it was 497 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 5: also in La every week, it was a different lifestyle 498 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 5: like now I'm kind of shooting everywhere and stuff, just 499 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 5: doing something more I guess on brand with my lifestyle now, 500 00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,800 Speaker 5: you know, I was holding on to like a version 501 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 5: of myself that I needed to. 502 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: Hmmm, you know part ways with Well, I think that's 503 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,959 Speaker 1: the natural evolution of somebody who's actually, like, you know, 504 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,320 Speaker 1: thinking about life instead of just like having life happen. 505 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:10,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh wow, that was really sweet. 506 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's true, like we grow up, and like, if 507 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,640 Speaker 1: you're not growing up at some point, it's not interesting. 508 00:20:16,119 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 2: I agree, I think. 509 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,840 Speaker 5: And for so long again, I was tied to this 510 00:20:18,920 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 5: idea where if I grew or if I was doing 511 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 5: anything with substance or intelligence that I was, no one 512 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 5: would be interested. And it got to this point where 513 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:28,840 Speaker 5: I was like, that's just not true, and my fans 514 00:20:28,840 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 5: are amazing for that, for showing up for me. 515 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: No matter what it did. 516 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:35,840 Speaker 5: It started to feel kind of regressive and repetitive, and 517 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 5: like just the drama centric stuff also can be very 518 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 5: taxing on your mental health if you're not wanting to 519 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 5: stand in the line of fire, if you're not wanting 520 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 5: to deal with all the discourse and the clips and 521 00:20:46,800 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 5: the commentary and stuff, and yeah, it came to this 522 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 5: like very poetic end, and it's great. 523 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: I still can't shut the fuck up. Yeah, So here 524 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:56,439 Speaker 2: I am continuing to. 525 00:20:56,640 --> 00:20:58,120 Speaker 1: So what's the story with your parents? 526 00:20:59,000 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 4: God? 527 00:20:59,320 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: Do you have a a week? 528 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 1: I mean, just give us the sound bites, like I know, 529 00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:04,640 Speaker 1: I just read. 530 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 2: I don't know, Like, just give me a clip. 531 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: I didn't know this well, I just I didn't know 532 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: this about you. And I was reading your notes and 533 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,639 Speaker 1: it said you haven't spoken to them since you were thirteen, 534 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:14,360 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, are you moved. 535 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:15,440 Speaker 2: Out when you were thirteen? Right? 536 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:15,800 Speaker 3: Yes? 537 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 1: And I wish I could have fucking moved out when 538 00:21:17,720 --> 00:21:19,199 Speaker 1: I was two, street I wanted to move out when 539 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:19,640 Speaker 1: I was six. 540 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:21,919 Speaker 5: That is why I resonate with you so hard. I 541 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:25,560 Speaker 5: think that when you speak even about like your thoughts 542 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,600 Speaker 5: as a child, especially in this last book, you did 543 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 5: a lot of. 544 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 2: That, you know what I mean. You talk about how 545 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:30,360 Speaker 2: you knew. 546 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:32,560 Speaker 5: You were destined for a first class you were destined 547 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,080 Speaker 5: for a different life, that they weren't gonna necessarily do 548 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 5: it for you. And you knew that from a very 549 00:21:37,480 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 5: young age, which I feel like a lot of people 550 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:42,119 Speaker 5: don't necessarily grow up like that. There is they have 551 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 5: much more naivity to their childhood, you know. And I 552 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:47,439 Speaker 5: feel like I was very similar to you in that 553 00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 5: regard where I woke up in this world. I was 554 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 5: born into it, and I was like, oh, you people. 555 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: Are Yeah, I would feel like the idea that your 556 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,600 Speaker 1: parents are like, I've definitely never felt unsafe in my home. 557 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 3: You know. 558 00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 1: It wasn't like that. But the idea that my parents 559 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:01,320 Speaker 1: were the ones that we're going to take care of 560 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:04,679 Speaker 1: me was ludicrous. Like I was like, this is not 561 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: a possibility, exactly, Chelsea. 562 00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 5: And I think that is the difference. I think my 563 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 5: home was also a very unsafe home. It was very 564 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 5: turbulent in a lot of ways. I mean, my dad 565 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 5: was in the Vietnam War, he had a lot of PTSD. 566 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 5: They were both older, born in the fifties, just very 567 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 5: out of touch and with everything. And my mom was 568 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 5: very depressed and just the I hate to call her 569 00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 5: the common case of a victim of lots of failed 570 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 5: abusive relationships, but that's. 571 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 2: What it was, you know. 572 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 5: And yeah, from a very young age, I knew like, 573 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 5: this is just not gonna fit, you know. And my 574 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 5: best friend's family was very kind to start taking me 575 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 5: in from thirteen on and just giving me the good 576 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:44,520 Speaker 5: meal on the table, showing me that a holiday is 577 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,119 Speaker 5: something you should celebrate, showing me that there can be 578 00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 5: happy moments and that love is unconditional. 579 00:22:49,119 --> 00:22:50,000 Speaker 2: My parents were also. 580 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 5: Extreme narcissists, and narcissistic abuse is also just very hard 581 00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 5: to go through because you're never going to get the 582 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 5: accountability or the apology or the glution. 583 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. 584 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,600 Speaker 5: And it eventually got to a point, I think where 585 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 5: it just continued to snowball, and I realized I was 586 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 5: because I spent a lot of my childhood, I guess, 587 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 5: trying to make them into something better, like hoping, living 588 00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:14,479 Speaker 5: on this edge of hope that they would wake up 589 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:16,359 Speaker 5: one day and grow. And eventually it was just like, 590 00:23:16,800 --> 00:23:18,639 Speaker 5: this isn't going to happen, and I have to go 591 00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:21,480 Speaker 5: no contact for my mental health. That was right after 592 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:24,320 Speaker 5: they sued me. That was kind of like a big catalyst. 593 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,119 Speaker 5: What slander and defamation itau? 594 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,400 Speaker 1: You were talking about them publicly, yes, and. 595 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 5: I had had an MTV show and on the reality show, 596 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 5: I was kind of detailing what my childhood was like. 597 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 5: And that was super hard for me because I was like, 598 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,240 Speaker 5: not only was I telling the truth. I was telling 599 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,240 Speaker 5: one one thousandth of the truth, you know. So it 600 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 5: was it was a cash grab, and it was one 601 00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 5: of those things where it was like and that was 602 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,080 Speaker 5: just the thousandth time where that was all I felt like, 603 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:48,640 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, was a check to them, 604 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:50,760 Speaker 5: and you know, they wanted to take credit for all 605 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 5: of my success and we made you and if anything, 606 00:23:53,280 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 5: everything I was was to fight them for so long 607 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,919 Speaker 5: and was to be nothing like them, I guess, you know. 608 00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,119 Speaker 5: And yeah, eventually it had to be no contact just 609 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 5: for my mental well for you and thank you. I 610 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 5: think so many people, you know, they want to argue that, 611 00:24:08,520 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 5: right because they don't understand. 612 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:11,320 Speaker 2: They want to be like, but it's your blood and 613 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 2: it's your parents. 614 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 5: And I always just try to tell people it's like 615 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 5: if someone is no contact with their family, it means 616 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:20,240 Speaker 5: they have tried everything. Like that's never it's not option one, 617 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. You try and you try 618 00:24:22,040 --> 00:24:22,960 Speaker 5: and you try and you fail. 619 00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,840 Speaker 2: And I don't know. 620 00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 5: Now I've finally made a lot of peace with that. 621 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:29,719 Speaker 5: I think for a while I was drinking about that. 622 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 5: I think for a while I was angry, and I 623 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:34,760 Speaker 5: think I got to a full point of just empathy 624 00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 5: that they weren't that generation too, like mental health was 625 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 5: not a thing for their generation, and just so many 626 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:41,800 Speaker 5: different things. 627 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: It's just also a nice lesson to talk about and 628 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: to think about, because you've got me thinking about all 629 00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: the different ways in which you can find parents in life. 630 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: It's so true and like mother's parents, like I feel 631 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 1: like I mother a lot of young people in my 632 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: life happily, Like I love it. I want to, you know, 633 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 1: like I want to be a big sister or however 634 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: these girls in my life see me, it's like I 635 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 1: want to be there and like fill in the gaps 636 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,879 Speaker 1: because I know so many people who have parented me 637 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,679 Speaker 1: that are not my parents, and my siblings very much 638 00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 1: so parented me growing up. And it's like it can 639 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:17,919 Speaker 1: come from anywhere, and it's very nice to be able 640 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: to because it's such a struggle to let go of 641 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:24,199 Speaker 1: the expectation of your parents treating you the way that 642 00:25:24,280 --> 00:25:27,199 Speaker 1: you see other parents treat their children in happy homes. 643 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: Speak that truth, Chelsea, It's very true. 644 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 5: I mean I think that I always describe it as 645 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 5: a void that I eventually had to make friends with, right, 646 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 5: Like I think for so long it was this void 647 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 5: that I was trying to fill, and I was just 648 00:25:39,119 --> 00:25:40,359 Speaker 5: trying to fill it and fill it and fill it, 649 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 5: but it was endless, you know, And eventually it was like, yes, 650 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 5: if right now I walked outside and I saw a 651 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 5: dad teaching his little girl on a bike, I'm going 652 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 5: to be like I was robbed of that. 653 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:49,960 Speaker 2: I never got that. 654 00:25:50,040 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 5: There's still going to be moments where I'm aware of 655 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 5: that and the void. But I think that the peace 656 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 5: came from stopping trying to fill it, and you know, 657 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 5: being grateful for the things that I had in other 658 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 5: avae news and the people who did step in. Even 659 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 5: when you text me and you call me ooopsie or 660 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:07,199 Speaker 5: you call me Poopsie, and I know what that means 661 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,199 Speaker 5: to you. Like, I'm so grateful for all of the 662 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 5: people in my life who have stepped up and shown 663 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 5: me love and someone I can look up to, and 664 00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 5: just family and just all the different things. You know, 665 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 5: I feel so blessed, and I always try to be 666 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 5: the poster child for that to like, you know, for 667 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,960 Speaker 5: the girls out there who are like I'm going no contact. 668 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 2: I'm like, you will find a new normal that fulfills you. 669 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:29,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is one of the things that you've learned 670 00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 1: about yourself that you're really proud of through getting sober, Like, 671 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm sure you're really proud of that, right, Yeah. 672 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 5: And for so long I think I couldn't even I 673 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 5: was so self deprecating, and I think that a lot 674 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 5: of times to the world wanted to be deprecating me. 675 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:47,800 Speaker 5: The world wanted to be kind of saying these awful 676 00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:49,639 Speaker 5: things about me. So I almost was living in this 677 00:26:49,680 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 5: mindset where it's like, I'm going to get to it 678 00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 5: before them, you know what I mean, I'm going to 679 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 5: get to the self deprecating punchline before them. And it 680 00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 5: was it ended up obviously, and then with the drugs 681 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,560 Speaker 5: and alcohol, all that's spiraling into a lot of self hatred. 682 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 5: And this is kind of the first time in my 683 00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 5: life where I'm like, I might still be a little messy, 684 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 5: but I can be a role model and I am 685 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,439 Speaker 5: proud of myself and I am resilient as fuck. And 686 00:27:09,480 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 5: I did like build all of this for myself with 687 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,199 Speaker 5: no fucking help. I made it out of Yeah, I 688 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 5: was dealt the shittiest fucking hand ever. 689 00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 2: And you lived in Vegas growing up. 690 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 5: I knew the Texas old de Mans before I knew 691 00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 5: the ABC's Like, come on, growing. 692 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,960 Speaker 1: Up in Vegas is something that I find unfathomable. I 693 00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 1: read Andre Agassi's book. I don't know, have you read 694 00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,239 Speaker 1: ever read that book? No, but I will now he 695 00:27:32,280 --> 00:27:35,239 Speaker 1: grew up in Vegas, and I just I found that 696 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:39,479 Speaker 1: book to be so depressing, well on so many levels, 697 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: because his father forced him to be a tennis player 698 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 1: when he didn't want to, and like bought a house 699 00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: and build a tennis court in the back. But Vegas 700 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 1: just is like to me. And I guess, you know, 701 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: I don't live there, so I don't know, and I 702 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: can't speak from experience, but it just seems dire. 703 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: No, you hit the nail on the head, Chelsea. 704 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 5: I think by six years old, I was like, why 705 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:02,160 Speaker 5: the fuck are we raising kids here? 706 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:02,920 Speaker 2: You know what I mean. 707 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 5: As a child, I was well aware because obviously there 708 00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,160 Speaker 5: are nice enclaves, right. There are the children who were 709 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:13,960 Speaker 5: born in Summerland and they played tennis their whole life, 710 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:15,640 Speaker 5: and they'd go out to the desert and they went 711 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 5: on family trips to California. 712 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 2: I'm sure they had a great fucking life. 713 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,000 Speaker 5: Okay, But the rest of us who were living in 714 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:22,560 Speaker 5: poverty in Las Vegas. 715 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 2: It is dark. I think it's a city that. 716 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:28,360 Speaker 5: Runs on like sex and money and alcohol and all 717 00:28:28,400 --> 00:28:30,240 Speaker 5: of the dark things in the world. I think I 718 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,919 Speaker 5: really a lot of Even in writing my book right now, 719 00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 5: I'm almost writing about how my morals were this reverse thing, 720 00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 5: like I was taught horrible morals and I was taught 721 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 5: that like you get what you want by lying and 722 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 5: manipulating and scamming and like just all of these things, 723 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, and that addiction and substances 724 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:50,160 Speaker 5: and that was all normal to cope and it was 725 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 5: almost My life has been this big thing of unlearning 726 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,640 Speaker 5: what being brought up in that environment taught me. 727 00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 1: I guess, did you have siblings? 728 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 2: No? No, only child? More depressing, so depressing. 729 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:04,480 Speaker 5: And that was That's why I'm so grateful for I'm Aarry, 730 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,400 Speaker 5: my best friend, because you know, they he taught me 731 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:08,760 Speaker 5: what a sibling is, and they taught me what sibling 732 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 5: love is. And yeah, I imagine that my life would 733 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 5: be entirely different if I had a sibling, you know, 734 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:14,760 Speaker 5: if I had someone to be like, are you fucking 735 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 5: seeing the shit? 736 00:29:15,440 --> 00:29:17,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what the thing is about siblings. 737 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: I think and I still heard Gabor Matte or he's 738 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: this Canadian psychologist and he talks about like no two 739 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,240 Speaker 1: siblings have the same experience, and I would argue against that, 740 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: like my brothers and sisters commiserate all the time about 741 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: what it was like. They're they're the only other people 742 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 1: that know exactly what it was like growing up in 743 00:29:33,640 --> 00:29:36,760 Speaker 1: my household, which was like we we all had a 744 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 1: different set of parents because we were different ages, but 745 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 1: we all had the same set of circumstances. Yes, and 746 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: it was ridiculous, like you know, they didn't pick us 747 00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,560 Speaker 1: up they like they you know, there was never going 748 00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: to be like breakfast on the table, yes, like you know, 749 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 1: there was just like everyone fend for yourself. And it's 750 00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,680 Speaker 1: a nice like it's a nice bond to know, you know, 751 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,880 Speaker 1: because and also as we age, you kind of become 752 00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: the opposite or the same of what you grew up with. 753 00:30:04,000 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: Mine was immediately like I am, first of all, I 754 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: need a housekeeper, like you guys are we need a 755 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: cleaning lady. We need a housekeeper, and I need her 756 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:13,360 Speaker 1: to live with me, and you know what I mean, 757 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 1: Like that was the first thing that I needed. I 758 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: needed a brand new car because my dad was a 759 00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: used car dealer. I'm like, I'll never driving a used 760 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: car once I have enough money. And it was just 761 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: all the things that I found to be an ick 762 00:30:24,240 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: were it. 763 00:30:24,800 --> 00:30:26,640 Speaker 5: Do you feel like some of your siblings ended up 764 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,080 Speaker 5: being more similar my. 765 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 1: Sisters a little bit. Yeah. 766 00:30:29,680 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 2: I have two. 767 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 1: I have a brother and a sister who are a 768 00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 1: little bit more like scrappy. You know, they're just kind 769 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: of like hustlers. I mean, we're all hustlers. I'm a 770 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: hustler for sure, but they hustle in a way that 771 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,320 Speaker 1: is just kind of like smacking things together and like 772 00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, on the move, kind of fast and loose. 773 00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I have that too, but I 774 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,239 Speaker 1: it's mine is a little bit more like I have 775 00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:56,200 Speaker 1: standards of operation, and they're up here, you know what 776 00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 1: I mean. There's got to be a level of standard 777 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: of operation for me. Like I don't like anything below 778 00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 1: that standard. But I love that, especially as I get older. 779 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't have time for that, you know 780 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: what I mean. I'm too fucking busy. 781 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 2: I don't have time for it. 782 00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,320 Speaker 5: And I have no problem saying I have no time 783 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 5: for it, but I think that if a man did it, 784 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,240 Speaker 5: no one would blink. And you have been the person 785 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 5: that has spearheaded that. You've always been that way, you 786 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 5: know what I mean? You know what you want and 787 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 5: you're going to go get it and you're not going 788 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 5: to fucking apologize for it, which. 789 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 2: Right is so inspiring. It really is. 790 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: So what do you like when you think about this 791 00:31:25,640 --> 00:31:28,880 Speaker 1: new podcast and like, you know, like what what do 792 00:31:28,920 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: you have in mind? 793 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: Like what do you want to do? What do you 794 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,080 Speaker 2: want to accomplish? 795 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 5: I think that calling it brand safe obviously there's some 796 00:31:35,320 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 5: irony there, like you're not safe, Yes, at all, no 797 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 5: one's safe. But at the same time, I am in 798 00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 5: this new era where I care and sometimes I understand 799 00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 5: that maybe I don't need to say the crazy thing 800 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 5: that's going to get me in a bunch of trouble. 801 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:50,800 Speaker 5: And I'm you know what I mean, I'm working with 802 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 5: companies because they're less disgusted with associating with me, and 803 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 5: I think that what I want to do with brand Safe, 804 00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 5: it really is I want to have a lot of 805 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 5: conversations that I've never gotten to have online. I want 806 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 5: people to almost feel like they're in my phone and 807 00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 5: they're in my group chat. And while you are a 808 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,840 Speaker 5: powerhouse and a celebrity and amazing and you are coming 809 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 5: on today as my first guest, I'm not just trying 810 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 5: to have a bunch of back to back big names 811 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 5: and stuff I think I want to talk to almost 812 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 5: similar to life will be the Death of Me, the 813 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 5: way that you really dove into talking to like psychologists 814 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 5: and therapists and all those things. 815 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:25,040 Speaker 2: I want to do that. 816 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 5: I want of my best friends on and I want 817 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 5: to just have the conversations that we have in bed 818 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:32,800 Speaker 5: and just like bring people almost even closer into my life. 819 00:32:32,840 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 5: I've been filming a lot of them in Hawaii where 820 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 5: I'm just talking about childhood, talking about dating. It's almost 821 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 5: like I spent so much time gathering this lore and 822 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 5: falling down and now I finally have stood up, and 823 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,880 Speaker 5: I want to use what I've learned to help the 824 00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:49,719 Speaker 5: girlies know that they two can wake up one day 825 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 5: and say I'm brand safe now, and they can wake 826 00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 5: up one day and reinvent in any way they want, 827 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 5: even if people perceive them differently, like that, you can 828 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,520 Speaker 5: carve out your own path and I'm so brand safe now. 829 00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, that's so true. We have so many similarities 830 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: in our like, you know, direction trajectory, that's the word. 831 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: That's the word that could replace journey. Trajectory is yeah, 832 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: that's better. That's better because we are we have like 833 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:17,960 Speaker 1: it's very analogous, like the partying da da DA, realizing 834 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: how you're coming across, feeling a little bit harsh about 835 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: how you come across, feeling a little bit like, Okay, 836 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,160 Speaker 1: maybe I need to like pump the brakes on this. 837 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: Like I totally relate to all of that, and I 838 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:30,040 Speaker 1: think that's a very natural thing for anybody in their 839 00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: twenties and thirties to be thinking about, you know, and 840 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 1: to see people on the other side of it, and 841 00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: to see people like going through the pain of it's 842 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 1: not a breakup with yourself, because it's a different version 843 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: of yourself, but in a sense, you are kind of 844 00:33:42,880 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: breaking with your past. And some people will get uncomfortable 845 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 1: with that, you know, some fans get uncomfortable with that. 846 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:51,280 Speaker 1: I was just at this dinner the other night and 847 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 1: as this woman who's pretty famous producer, she came up 848 00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: to me at this dinner and I've known her over 849 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: the years. We've always been cordial and whatever. But I 850 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 1: don't know her well, and she came up to me 851 00:34:03,400 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 1: and she sat down next to me, and she's like, 852 00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:07,040 Speaker 1: I just want to let you know that, like I 853 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,239 Speaker 1: have seen so many changes in you over the course 854 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,920 Speaker 1: of like the last five ten years. 855 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,799 Speaker 2: She goes, it's really beautiful, Like. 856 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: You've really come into your own and you're just like 857 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 1: a total solid, like sister woman. I know we have 858 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,040 Speaker 1: a ton of mutual friends, and I just know, like 859 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:21,759 Speaker 1: I used to be scared of you. This is a 860 00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 1: woman who like runs Hollywood, by the way. So the 861 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,439 Speaker 1: fact that she's telling me she used to be scared 862 00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,160 Speaker 1: of me, I'm like, what are you fucking talking about it? 863 00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: How She's like, she's like, but I used to be 864 00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 1: just you were just not you know, like not not 865 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: easy to be around. Or it's like I was scared 866 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,719 Speaker 1: to be around you. Not scared of you, but like 867 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 1: scared to be around you. 868 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:39,000 Speaker 2: Unsafe. 869 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: Maybe I have heard that before. People are like I 870 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: feel unsafe around Chelsey. Yes, I'm like, what do you 871 00:34:45,040 --> 00:34:46,719 Speaker 1: think I'm gonna do? And they're like, we don't know 872 00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: why you're gonna do that's what that's what's so scary. 873 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,439 Speaker 2: I couldn't relate more. And it is Yeah, it's really nice. 874 00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 5: I feel like I've been getting a lot of that 875 00:34:53,719 --> 00:34:56,440 Speaker 5: lately too, And you're right, it's not it's not a breakup, 876 00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:58,319 Speaker 5: but it is. It is a rebirth, and I was 877 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,560 Speaker 5: I was equating it, this is so whole for me, 878 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 5: but like I felt like I was like a crab 879 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 5: who like lost this shell. It doesn't fit anymore, and 880 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 5: I'm like kind of looking for my new one that fits, 881 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:08,080 Speaker 5: you know. 882 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 1: And then that transitional period in between those two it 883 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: can be really naked. Yeah, it's quite uncomfortable because you're 884 00:35:14,120 --> 00:35:17,120 Speaker 1: kind of trying on your different versions of yourself. As 885 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: I've said before that and you're like does anyone do 886 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:20,520 Speaker 1: I like me? 887 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:21,320 Speaker 3: Yes? 888 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: And and then there's a period also of self consciousness 889 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: that I had never experienced before therapy. I became super 890 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: self conscious for about four three to four years, and 891 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:38,759 Speaker 1: I didn't like that feeling at all relate and I 892 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 1: was like is this how I am now? And it's 893 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: it finally subsided, it went away. I am all longer 894 00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: self conscious because I was like, shit, I don't like this. 895 00:35:48,600 --> 00:35:51,279 Speaker 1: And this is how most people, I think feel, you know, 896 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: when people always say like why are you so confident? 897 00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't know, I'm just this way. I 898 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: don't have like an elixir, but I mean I can 899 00:35:58,600 --> 00:36:01,480 Speaker 1: try and help you. But when I felt that way 900 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: for a few years, I was like, oh, this isn't 901 00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:04,800 Speaker 1: this is an uncomfortable feeling. 902 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it was. 903 00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:10,160 Speaker 1: Second guessing your interactions and thinking overthinking about what you said, yes, 904 00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,480 Speaker 1: how you said it, Whereas before I would just say 905 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: something and fucking forget about it for two years and 906 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:16,760 Speaker 1: then find out five years later I totally offended somebody. 907 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:17,240 Speaker 2: Chelsey. 908 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,000 Speaker 5: I literally I couldn't agree with something more because I 909 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,080 Speaker 5: was like, I think I lived my life up until 910 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 5: the past three years not even knowing what the word 911 00:36:24,960 --> 00:36:27,880 Speaker 5: anxiety meant, and like sometimes I will look back and 912 00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 5: almost romanticize that. You know, it's like it's awful and 913 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 5: you are making reparations forever and you're saying all the 914 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,000 Speaker 5: crazy things and stuff. But anxiety and I had never met, 915 00:36:37,080 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 5: you know what I mean. I was just living no 916 00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 5: holds barred, going one hundred miles per hour. It didn't 917 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:44,239 Speaker 5: fucking matter who I pissed off. It didn't fucking matter 918 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,520 Speaker 5: what I said, Like either I'd drink it away or 919 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,279 Speaker 5: I would just keep doing it. It didn't matter. And then 920 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:52,480 Speaker 5: it was like almost across this transitional phase, I did 921 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,160 Speaker 5: start to be like, oh my god, I need to 922 00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,839 Speaker 5: think before I speak, and then almost overcorrecting. I think 923 00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:59,040 Speaker 5: there was a second where I swung the pendulum so 924 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 5: far and I'm like, Okay, I'm acting like fucking mother Mary, 925 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:02,799 Speaker 5: Like I don't. 926 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 2: It doesn't need to be that, you know what I mean. 927 00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 5: You you are opinionated and you are loud, and it's 928 00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 5: like it's finding this this middle ground and there is 929 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 5: a lot of anxiety and perception and thinking about all 930 00:37:14,120 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 5: of your past selves and like I guess almost regret 931 00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 5: as well, Like it's it's balancing all these things out, 932 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 5: you know, and it's it is an anxious period. 933 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, yeah, I love that. I love that. 934 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,400 Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna take a break and we'll be right back. 935 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:27,960 Speaker 2: With Tana manjur. 936 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:37,800 Speaker 1: And we're back, you guys, with Tana Manzo perfect. 937 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:41,120 Speaker 5: It honestly makes me so uncomfortable, like because I'm so 938 00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:41,880 Speaker 5: even in Vegas. 939 00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 2: You're like, Tana, get over here, and I just I 940 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,240 Speaker 2: can't wait to unpack that trip on my pod. 941 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: That was when I met Cowboy, so That's what I 942 00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,880 Speaker 1: wanted to know, is if it was that trip or 943 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:55,160 Speaker 1: the trip after. It was the trip you were you 944 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,720 Speaker 1: because you we stayed the night after, remember Mike Karen, 945 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,799 Speaker 1: my assistant, was with us, and that whole group of 946 00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:04,880 Speaker 1: girls and we went yeah, and then we went to Alana. 947 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,800 Speaker 1: And then after Alanis, I went back to the casino 948 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:09,440 Speaker 1: because all those girls had lost my money. 949 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:10,640 Speaker 2: I lost like three. 950 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 1: Grand I lost your money. That's okay, but I that's 951 00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,520 Speaker 1: what it's for. And then I came back the next night. 952 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:17,879 Speaker 1: I was like, let me go win that money back. 953 00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 1: I know I can win. And so I went back 954 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 1: with my friend Terrence from New York. And you met 955 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:23,920 Speaker 1: Terrence too, right, Yeah? 956 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,319 Speaker 5: And was Terrence the guy you were absolutely hazing. You 957 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:29,600 Speaker 5: kept telling him to get up because he was bad luck. 958 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:34,680 Speaker 5: Oh no, that was someone else, like this moor Man 959 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 5: just trying to gamble on. 960 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,080 Speaker 2: Chelsea's like, get the fuck out of my face. Someone 961 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:39,439 Speaker 2: else needed to be in your fucking seat. 962 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 5: But also you have this like cunty power where when 963 00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,960 Speaker 5: you're not the person being hazed by her, you're like, oh. 964 00:38:45,800 --> 00:38:48,359 Speaker 2: My god, you feel like her little teacup jama. You're like, yeah, 965 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:48,799 Speaker 2: I get him. 966 00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:51,360 Speaker 1: He was throwing the table off. It wasn't Terrence. I 967 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,200 Speaker 1: don't think it was some other guy, but I can't 968 00:38:53,239 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 1: remember who it was. But he was throwing the table 969 00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:56,279 Speaker 1: off because he didn't know how to gamble, and I 970 00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: was like, just get out of here. 971 00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:58,320 Speaker 2: So funny. 972 00:38:58,520 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 1: But the next night when I did that was the 973 00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,480 Speaker 1: night I met cowboys. So you were there, So you 974 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: were there with me, so your energy helped me. 975 00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,080 Speaker 5: That made my cowboys so fucking happy. I want to 976 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,320 Speaker 5: hear all about this. Do you guys are very cute, 977 00:39:09,360 --> 00:39:11,839 Speaker 5: by the way, Thank you. Like just such an attractive 978 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:12,760 Speaker 5: couple together. 979 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:14,680 Speaker 1: I should have seen us an issemble together everyone. 980 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:16,200 Speaker 2: We would walk down the street and people would be. 981 00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: Like, Hollywood, Hollywood. They don't they don't have that accent, 982 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,960 Speaker 1: but they were screaming Hollywood, and I was like, god, 983 00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: we really stand out like two sort of thumbs. And 984 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,360 Speaker 1: it's like, well, because no one is blonde there, you 985 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: know what I mean? 986 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 2: Is here to stay? 987 00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:30,640 Speaker 1: No, I don't think anyone is here to stay. 988 00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:34,439 Speaker 5: But I assume that he is a man who kind 989 00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,120 Speaker 5: of owns that and like knows. 990 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 2: Knows how you operate, and is. 991 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's definitely seeing how I operate, and he knows 992 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 1: it could be over in a second. 993 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:44,840 Speaker 5: But I think I think that's hot too, when someone 994 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,520 Speaker 5: can kind of be like I know that, but I'm 995 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,719 Speaker 5: here for the ride exactly, and I'm down. And I mean, 996 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,719 Speaker 5: I always ask you about this, like we know that 997 00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 5: you I don't know. I don't want to say you 998 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 5: don't love not monogamy, but like you're not looking for 999 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 5: like long term, forever partner. 1000 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm to post a monogamy, like if I'm 1001 00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,520 Speaker 1: in a relationship, it's not like I'm having If I'm 1002 00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:06,400 Speaker 1: in a relationship that's defined as a relationship, like we're 1003 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: seeing each other. Yeah, it's not like I have to 1004 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,879 Speaker 1: go fuck a bunch of other guys. But if I'm 1005 00:40:10,960 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: casually sauntering throughout the world and meeting people in different places, 1006 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: those aren't relationships. Those are casual encounters. And where if 1007 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,600 Speaker 1: I see somebody a couple, cowboy, cowboy, I'm seeing cowboy 1008 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: right now. 1009 00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 2: That's exclusive. 1010 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:26,239 Speaker 1: But but I mean that's about all I can really 1011 00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,720 Speaker 1: fucking handle. And it's long distance, which is my favorite. 1012 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,560 Speaker 1: I like long distance. Yeah you need distance, Yeah I 1013 00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:35,200 Speaker 1: need distance, and everyone needs distance from me as well. 1014 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,560 Speaker 1: When I'm working, and when I'm here in town, I don't. 1015 00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 1: I don't have time for any fucking distraction. 1016 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:40,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, like, I really don't. 1017 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 1: I just want to hit the ground running, get all 1018 00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:44,799 Speaker 1: my ship in a row so that I can go. 1019 00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 2: And relax where at some point he lives in Florida. 1020 00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,919 Speaker 2: No shit, A big problem? And why have you gone 1021 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:51,560 Speaker 2: to Florida? 1022 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,600 Speaker 5: No do you think across the duration of this relationship 1023 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:55,120 Speaker 5: you will. 1024 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 2: Even ever set foot in his parts? It's unlikely, but possible. 1025 00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:02,120 Speaker 2: Is it like a Tampa like sad Sad? Or I 1026 00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 2: don't want to say. 1027 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,200 Speaker 1: I don't even want to say where it is. 1028 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:06,800 Speaker 2: I don't love Florida. 1029 00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:09,799 Speaker 1: My feelings about Florida have nothing to do with Floridians. 1030 00:41:09,840 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: They have to do with the politics of the state. 1031 00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,080 Speaker 1: And for some reason, even though there are states that 1032 00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:18,880 Speaker 1: are commensurate or worse than Florida, Florida sticks out to 1033 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:22,520 Speaker 1: be like a sore thumb or of just dysfunction. They're 1034 00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,640 Speaker 1: burning books. I hate all that shit. I hate the politics. 1035 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,840 Speaker 1: I hate DeSantis, Texas. I feel like is a hopeful 1036 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 1: place like Texas. I feel like we can flip at 1037 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 1: some point, and that's why I still fuck with Texas. 1038 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,560 Speaker 2: Now Florida's staying the same. 1039 00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: Florida is just not open carry. I don't like that. 1040 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:40,480 Speaker 2: I don't like. 1041 00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:42,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just even the Miami of it all, like 1042 00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 5: those people, those men especially like it is just it's 1043 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,919 Speaker 5: lawless in the worst way. 1044 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:49,879 Speaker 2: What about your guy? 1045 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:50,840 Speaker 1: Is he permanent? 1046 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 2: Is it what permanent? 1047 00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 4: Like? 1048 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:53,320 Speaker 1: Aren't you engaged? 1049 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:54,600 Speaker 2: I'm not engaged. 1050 00:41:54,840 --> 00:41:55,760 Speaker 1: Would you get engaged? 1051 00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:58,560 Speaker 2: I would get engaged. He's pretty permanent to me, Yes, 1052 00:41:59,080 --> 00:41:59,360 Speaker 2: he is. 1053 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,000 Speaker 5: Honestly, I think that I used to very much so 1054 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 5: be a grass as always greener type of girl, one 1055 00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,759 Speaker 5: foot in the door, one foot out the door with 1056 00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 5: a lot of people. And when I really look at him, 1057 00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:11,239 Speaker 5: when I really put it all out on paper, and 1058 00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,600 Speaker 5: lord knows, I have like I'm making a vent diagram. 1059 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 5: I'm trying to convince myself and like whatever, when I 1060 00:42:16,680 --> 00:42:18,040 Speaker 5: really put it all out there, I don't think I 1061 00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:20,319 Speaker 5: would ever find anyone better. And I think that that's like, 1062 00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:23,359 Speaker 5: that's what it is for me, you know what I mean. 1063 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:25,719 Speaker 5: I'm like, you're the best, and I fucking love you. 1064 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: And so do you think you'll get married? 1065 00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:31,439 Speaker 2: Honestly, yes, I think that it'll be Tanna style. It'll 1066 00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:33,720 Speaker 2: be like a Vegas and I have to be the wedding. 1067 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,760 Speaker 2: I would be so excited. 1068 00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:37,520 Speaker 5: I think I'll invite you to the Hawaii one because 1069 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 5: I think the Vegas one would just gross you out. Yeah, 1070 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:41,280 Speaker 5: I think so, it would make you really sad. 1071 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:45,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, my actions across all it's like, Okay, we just. 1072 00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:47,080 Speaker 2: Got married, can we go gamble? Like that's going to 1073 00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:48,200 Speaker 2: be my energy for that one. 1074 00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: Well, that's fine, I'm come for the gambling party. Yeah, okay, 1075 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,000 Speaker 1: Well that's really sweet. 1076 00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,200 Speaker 2: I'm happy for you. I'm happy for you, and we'll 1077 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 2: thank you. 1078 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,399 Speaker 5: And I feel like, even just see you've been sending 1079 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,120 Speaker 5: me so many cute photos of you guys and stuff, 1080 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,680 Speaker 5: you're very like proud of this relationship, which I love 1081 00:43:00,800 --> 00:43:01,160 Speaker 5: to see. 1082 00:43:01,280 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 1: Well, I like to be representative of what I like 1083 00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,400 Speaker 1: to be honest about what's happening in my life. So like, 1084 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:10,360 Speaker 1: I didn't hard launch a relationship. I just was throwing 1085 00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:13,480 Speaker 1: in pictures of him in my carousels because that's somebody 1086 00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: I was spending a lot of time with. So I 1087 00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: also find it weird when like you, you know, like 1088 00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,759 Speaker 1: to go on a trip with somebody for two weeks 1089 00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,239 Speaker 1: and then post twenty pictures of yourself alone without the 1090 00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: person as kind of a big fuck you. Yeah, you 1091 00:43:24,520 --> 00:43:27,239 Speaker 1: know what I mean, And so like I don't. I'm 1092 00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,160 Speaker 1: not trying to. Like people are like, we didn't you 1093 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: learn your lesson with Joe Koit? No, I didn't learn 1094 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: my lesson because I'm gonna be honest about my life. 1095 00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:35,040 Speaker 2: I love that as well. 1096 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,279 Speaker 1: I think care if we break up, that's then we 1097 00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:38,759 Speaker 1: break up. 1098 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:41,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it doesn't matter about you know what I mean. 1099 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 5: I really like that energy. I feel like I see 1100 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 5: a lot in this space. People have one bad public 1101 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,439 Speaker 5: or not even bad just public breakup and they write 1102 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 5: it all off forever, and it's like, I don't know, 1103 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:51,840 Speaker 5: I could never do that. So I guess I resonate 1104 00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,280 Speaker 5: more with your side, Like I'm I suck at keeping 1105 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:55,080 Speaker 5: things to myself. 1106 00:43:55,160 --> 00:43:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I'm not. 1107 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,120 Speaker 1: I don't take things so seriously that I can't share them. Yeah, 1108 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 1: it's a relationship. It's like it may last, it may not, 1109 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,680 Speaker 1: who knows, we'll find out. 1110 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 2: What do you like the most about him? It's like, 1111 00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 2: what is He has a great voice and I love that. 1112 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:15,040 Speaker 1: I like a real strong haven't you met him? 1113 00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:15,959 Speaker 2: No? No, not yet? 1114 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,400 Speaker 1: Okay to know each other too off the internet Chocolate 1115 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:20,320 Speaker 1: Singles dot Com. 1116 00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:22,600 Speaker 2: I love that. Yeah, we were both looking for a 1117 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,360 Speaker 2: black man. I'm going to tell people that's where we met. Honestly. Yeah, 1118 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 2: they probably believe you. 1119 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: Yeah what we're saying. Oh what I like about it? 1120 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I don't know. There's a lot 1121 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,040 Speaker 1: of alike about him. He's very gentle, He's a gentleman, 1122 00:44:37,480 --> 00:44:40,800 Speaker 1: and I was like, I was pretty grossed out by men. 1123 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:43,640 Speaker 1: I have to say straight men general have been pretty 1124 00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:47,120 Speaker 1: disappointing of late, and this whole political backdrop is just 1125 00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:50,040 Speaker 1: representative of where men have fallen short by not protecting 1126 00:44:50,080 --> 00:44:52,960 Speaker 1: our rights, not protecting the people's like, you know, rights 1127 00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:57,600 Speaker 1: that don't impact them directly, LGBTQ, trans, black, you know, 1128 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,319 Speaker 1: people of color, like white guys just seem to not 1129 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:04,200 Speaker 1: know how to like organize on behalf of other people. Yes, 1130 00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: because their rights are never really infringed to and you're 1131 00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,759 Speaker 1: like hello. So it was very refreshing for me to 1132 00:45:11,800 --> 00:45:13,960 Speaker 1: meet a man that saw me and I was a 1133 00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: hot mess the night he saw me too. I was 1134 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:20,120 Speaker 1: stoned and drunk and gambling and running that table like there. 1135 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,000 Speaker 1: When we left there, there was a line waiting at 1136 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 1: that blackjack table because we had turned it into a 1137 00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,480 Speaker 1: fucking gold mine and I was betting. I was splitting 1138 00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,040 Speaker 1: twos against the king and winning. 1139 00:45:28,239 --> 00:45:29,480 Speaker 2: I was like, watch this. 1140 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 5: And the attitude you get, it's a birthday attitude Kimmel. 1141 00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 1: And he was saying I was telling him the story 1142 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,959 Speaker 1: because he didn't know I, you know, I was seeing someone. 1143 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: And then it came up about the trouples. He's like, 1144 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:41,759 Speaker 1: could you go away with And I told him the 1145 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,640 Speaker 1: story about how I met him, and he was, you 1146 00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:46,440 Speaker 1: honestly sound like James Bond. He's like, you sound like 1147 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,960 Speaker 1: a female James Bond. And I was like, that's you 1148 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,200 Speaker 1: are fucking funny. But yeah, I like that. He can 1149 00:45:53,360 --> 00:45:54,560 Speaker 1: take it because it's a lot. 1150 00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:55,200 Speaker 2: I'm a lot. 1151 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm like, you like, good good luck. If 1152 00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,960 Speaker 1: I agree with that, good fucking luck. 1153 00:46:00,160 --> 00:46:02,120 Speaker 5: And I think I don't know if you ever, I 1154 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:03,680 Speaker 5: don't know if you relate to this one. Like a 1155 00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:05,520 Speaker 5: lot of times in relationships, I was trying to be 1156 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,400 Speaker 5: a little bit different or just like maybe dial it 1157 00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:09,960 Speaker 5: back a little bit. And then it was like, this 1158 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,319 Speaker 5: person is not falling in love with me. And then 1159 00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,120 Speaker 5: it's like I'm presenting them for that, But I caused. 1160 00:46:14,719 --> 00:46:18,919 Speaker 1: That, And I hate being fraudulent, like I when I'm 1161 00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:22,080 Speaker 1: not real, I'm like, you're gross. Like I hate the 1162 00:46:22,120 --> 00:46:26,279 Speaker 1: fake voice, I hate fake enthusiasm. I hate I just 1163 00:46:26,320 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: want to be real and like, so it's nice to 1164 00:46:29,000 --> 00:46:31,200 Speaker 1: be with someone and be real, Like, yeah, I'm a 1165 00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:31,680 Speaker 1: bitch too. 1166 00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:34,239 Speaker 2: Yes, Also I know that they they're in it for 1167 00:46:34,320 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 2: all of that, you know, Moody. 1168 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:38,319 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's gonna be good and sometimes it's gonna not 1169 00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,040 Speaker 1: be great. So that's important to cow boy. Yeah, kidding up, 1170 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 1: all right, So let's get to the advice. 1171 00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm dope. 1172 00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:51,960 Speaker 3: Our first question comes from Naomi, and she says, Zomy Campbell, 1173 00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,520 Speaker 3: it is in fact asking for advice. 1174 00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 2: She always needs some help. 1175 00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:58,799 Speaker 3: So she is thirty two and says, dear Chelsea. Late 1176 00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 3: last year, I underwent full nasal reconstruction to correct poor 1177 00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 3: technique from my previous nose job. Leading up to the surgery, 1178 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:08,719 Speaker 3: I was very sexually active, driven by a place of 1179 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,680 Speaker 3: scarcity and a fear of being alone. As a trans woman, 1180 00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,200 Speaker 3: I've grown accustomed to the mindset that I'm only valued 1181 00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 3: for sex and that love is scarce due to the 1182 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 3: discrimination women like myself often experience. 1183 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 2: I can't recall the last time. 1184 00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:23,120 Speaker 3: I chose a period of abstinence to focus on myself, 1185 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,840 Speaker 3: but I feel that this healing period is the right time. 1186 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:29,200 Speaker 3: I found myself falling into promiscuity as part of my 1187 00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:32,360 Speaker 3: identity due to a deep need for intimacy in the past. 1188 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:34,759 Speaker 3: This has also led me to endure toxic men, yet 1189 00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:35,840 Speaker 3: I continued. 1190 00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 2: To pursue them. My question for you is this, how. 1191 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:40,759 Speaker 3: Do you cope with loneliness when you choose abstinence to 1192 00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,760 Speaker 3: focus on self healing? What benefits can come from taking 1193 00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,440 Speaker 3: a break from men to heal one's broken parts. It 1194 00:47:46,480 --> 00:47:48,120 Speaker 3: feels like it will take forever to heal, and I 1195 00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 3: don't want to be alone. Please feel free to be 1196 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 3: direct and honest. Your insights mean a lot to me. 1197 00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:56,399 Speaker 3: With lots of love and a bandaged nose. Naomi, Hi, Naomi, Hi, 1198 00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:57,840 Speaker 3: how are you guys? 1199 00:47:58,040 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 2: We're great. 1200 00:47:58,680 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 1: This is Tantamajo. 1201 00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,160 Speaker 4: She's our special guest, Hianna. 1202 00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 2: First of all, I just want to say that you're fine. 1203 00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:11,000 Speaker 2: Normally I'm barking, so I'm coughing. That was also just 1204 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,840 Speaker 2: so profound, so well written. 1205 00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,680 Speaker 1: It was. I mean, first of all, I love that 1206 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,839 Speaker 1: you're thinking about all of these things because you have 1207 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 1: such a huge opportunity right now by taking a break 1208 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,120 Speaker 1: and being abstinate and actually like looking into yourself for 1209 00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 1: self love, Like that is exactly what every woman should 1210 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,200 Speaker 1: be doing at a certain point in her life. And 1211 00:48:31,239 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: this is your point. This is a huge growth opportunity. 1212 00:48:34,560 --> 00:48:37,400 Speaker 1: You're gonna have like a really good time by yourself. 1213 00:48:37,680 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 1: Being alone doesn't mean that you're lonely. You can start 1214 00:48:40,880 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: all these new like habits and patterns that are going 1215 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:45,799 Speaker 1: to set you up for success for the rest of 1216 00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:48,439 Speaker 1: your life. You know, you can wake up every day 1217 00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,759 Speaker 1: and first of all, you should be writing down what 1218 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,160 Speaker 1: you're experiencing through this and writing down your commitment to yourself, 1219 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 1: reminding yourself each day, I am committed to being alone 1220 00:48:58,239 --> 00:49:00,759 Speaker 1: and providing myself with the love I need to be 1221 00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: a loving individual in a relationship in the future. That's 1222 00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:06,920 Speaker 1: what you're doing. You're investing in yourself during this period 1223 00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: of time, and that's it is a completely winning situation 1224 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,960 Speaker 1: for you. Nobody's going to come in and fuck your 1225 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 1: shit up. You're there to like restore and like sanctify 1226 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,440 Speaker 1: the person that you are so that you become a 1227 00:49:20,480 --> 00:49:22,920 Speaker 1: tree that no one is able to push around or 1228 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:23,479 Speaker 1: push over. 1229 00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:24,479 Speaker 2: That's the goal. 1230 00:49:25,320 --> 00:49:29,200 Speaker 5: You're also going to enter whatever does eventually happen next, 1231 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 5: you're going to say, as rising no, I'm not to enter. 1232 00:49:32,200 --> 00:49:33,240 Speaker 5: This is a psychic grading. 1233 00:49:33,800 --> 00:49:37,680 Speaker 2: I'm not to enter, never will I ever. 1234 00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 5: But you know, whatever you do eventually enter, you'll enter 1235 00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:45,120 Speaker 5: as a completely different person, therefore attracting completely different people, 1236 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:49,400 Speaker 5: therefore garnering new experiences, hopefully more positive ones because of 1237 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,000 Speaker 5: all of the self work and the level of toleration 1238 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:53,839 Speaker 5: that you will now have. You know, you're not going 1239 00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:57,160 Speaker 5: to be so tolerant of people's bullshit or just wanting 1240 00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 5: a sexual identity from you and stuff. I think that 1241 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:03,120 Speaker 5: the tree analogy is Chelsea really hit the nail on 1242 00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:04,800 Speaker 5: the head there. You know you're going to be someone 1243 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:07,520 Speaker 5: that no one can fuck with because of this period 1244 00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:07,919 Speaker 5: of time. 1245 00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,759 Speaker 4: Thank you. I really appreciate that. It's really hard to 1246 00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 4: cope with being lonely when you're like I said, when 1247 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,120 Speaker 4: you're trans and you want affection and love and then 1248 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 4: I don't know's it's difficult, you know what I mean? 1249 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,520 Speaker 1: I don't know what you mean because I'm not trans, 1250 00:50:24,560 --> 00:50:27,799 Speaker 1: but I understand the concept of loneliness. And I don't 1251 00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,640 Speaker 1: want to pretend that I can experience what you've experienced, 1252 00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:33,000 Speaker 1: but I will say to you, like, you're not the 1253 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 1: only person that feels lonely. 1254 00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 2: You're not alone, and I think that. 1255 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: You should a like what practices do you have set 1256 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,080 Speaker 1: in place today? Like what do you journal? Do you 1257 00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,520 Speaker 1: have a gratitude journal? Like do you meditate? 1258 00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:46,160 Speaker 2: What do you do? 1259 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:49,759 Speaker 4: I actually do stand up comedy to help I laugh 1260 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:51,919 Speaker 4: at myself all the time. I say, having a noose 1261 00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,960 Speaker 4: job is a Jewish rite of passage. And you know, 1262 00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 4: I'm able to find Catharsis in that. That's great whenever 1263 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,000 Speaker 4: I'm joking about like you know what I mean? 1264 00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think you can add some things that's awesome. 1265 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,719 Speaker 1: First of all, that's fucking hard to do stand up. 1266 00:51:06,760 --> 00:51:09,200 Speaker 1: It takes a lot of balls, I know. And Tanna, 1267 00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 1: don't you do stand up too? 1268 00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 2: I'm trying. I'm trying. 1269 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:15,720 Speaker 5: And even that's She's right, Like, you are doing something 1270 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:18,720 Speaker 5: that is so hard to do that so many people 1271 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:20,919 Speaker 5: can't do. And I hope that you start to find 1272 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,800 Speaker 5: community in that as well. And the amount of people 1273 00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 5: in the audience and stuff that just make you feel 1274 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:27,799 Speaker 5: seen and are grateful that you're there because hearing you 1275 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:29,440 Speaker 5: say I'm lonely, I also just want. 1276 00:51:29,320 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 2: To be like we are our words right. 1277 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:36,400 Speaker 5: And the more that you are driving home I'm lonely, 1278 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 5: I'm lonely, I'm lonely, of course you are believing that 1279 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 5: you know what I mean, Whereas Chelsea has such a 1280 00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,280 Speaker 5: good point where it's like, this might be a period 1281 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 5: of your life that you are navigating more alone than 1282 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,360 Speaker 5: you've ever navigated any other period of your life, but 1283 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,399 Speaker 5: you're also filling your time in such a good way. 1284 00:51:52,440 --> 00:51:54,480 Speaker 5: You're also filling your time with the passion that you have, 1285 00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:57,040 Speaker 5: and you're also like maybe trying to make friends in 1286 00:51:57,080 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 5: that community, and you know, putting forth actions to build 1287 00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,280 Speaker 5: a future for yourself where you feel less alone. 1288 00:52:03,320 --> 00:52:05,360 Speaker 2: And I think the second you stop saying I'm. 1289 00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,239 Speaker 5: Lonely, I'm lonely, I'm lonely, and you start saying like, 1290 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,839 Speaker 5: I'm a fucking powerhouse. I don't need anybody, but I'm 1291 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:12,240 Speaker 5: going out to do my own thing and I'm building 1292 00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:15,280 Speaker 5: a less lonely life for myself, You'll start to believe 1293 00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:17,680 Speaker 5: that more and more, Like unfortunately, some periods of our 1294 00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:19,520 Speaker 5: life are kind of lying to ourselves. 1295 00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 1: I think that's it. 1296 00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 2: I think that's great. 1297 00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:24,160 Speaker 1: What she just said is so beautiful. You are building 1298 00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 1: a reservoir. Do you know the analogy that Brene Brown 1299 00:52:27,640 --> 00:52:30,400 Speaker 1: talks about with the marble jar. She talks about friendships 1300 00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:32,960 Speaker 1: and like when you have a relationship with someone, like say, 1301 00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,719 Speaker 1: you know, me and my sister, we have so many 1302 00:52:35,719 --> 00:52:38,000 Speaker 1: marbles in the marble jar that it would take something 1303 00:52:38,120 --> 00:52:42,279 Speaker 1: really crazy to take any marbles out. There's so many 1304 00:52:42,320 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 1: there that even if something terrible happened, only a couple 1305 00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:47,759 Speaker 1: marbles would be taken out, and I would it would 1306 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,600 Speaker 1: still be forgivable, you know what I mean, Like we 1307 00:52:49,640 --> 00:52:52,959 Speaker 1: would still be together because we've we've invested so much 1308 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:55,920 Speaker 1: into each other. There's been so many exchange of marbles. 1309 00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,719 Speaker 1: I want you to like think of that about yourself, 1310 00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,239 Speaker 1: Like every day that you spend alone, first of all, 1311 00:53:01,280 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 1: you should wake up and write down, I love myself. 1312 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,120 Speaker 1: I am incredible, I am capable, I am building a 1313 00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:10,800 Speaker 1: better life for myself. I am going to be grateful 1314 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,600 Speaker 1: for this time that I have alone, or I am grateful. 1315 00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,319 Speaker 1: Just start saying it, like in the present, everything that 1316 00:53:16,360 --> 00:53:19,319 Speaker 1: you're grateful for. And I have a gratitude journal in 1317 00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,799 Speaker 1: my phone that pops up every morning and night. And 1318 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,600 Speaker 1: sometimes I don't do it, but I usually do and 1319 00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:27,000 Speaker 1: it is a nice reset. It takes five minutes, but 1320 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:29,399 Speaker 1: it's a nice thing to write down three or four 1321 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:32,200 Speaker 1: things that you're grateful for each day. To look outside 1322 00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,080 Speaker 1: and be like, I'm grateful for the weather. I'm grateful 1323 00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:35,560 Speaker 1: for that tree that I get to look out out. 1324 00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: You know that's behind you. I don't know if that 1325 00:53:37,600 --> 00:53:39,840 Speaker 1: is a tree or maybe that's your hair. I can't tell, 1326 00:53:40,080 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 1: but it's my hair. Oh, be grateful for your hair, 1327 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,760 Speaker 1: you know. Be grateful for all of the little things 1328 00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,440 Speaker 1: that we don't kind of take into account. This is 1329 00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: the part of like a human experience, is to really 1330 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 1: really focus on the stuff that you have the time 1331 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,480 Speaker 1: to focus on the stuff that we don't pay attention 1332 00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,560 Speaker 1: to every day. So huge opportunity for you, Like this 1333 00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:06,239 Speaker 1: is beautiful and this can be transcendent for you. So 1334 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,560 Speaker 1: I do want you to develop and like get into 1335 00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: patterns that you aren't in yet. You know, I think 1336 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 1: you should try to meditate. I think you should download 1337 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: the comapp and just do five to ten minutes a morning. 1338 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,560 Speaker 1: Whether you like it or not just commit to it 1339 00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:23,400 Speaker 1: and do that for like at least thirty days and 1340 00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 1: just see how you feel. Journal about it after. You 1341 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: don't have to sit there journaling for two hours every day, 1342 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,720 Speaker 1: but just say, Okay, I just meditated, I didn't feel anything. 1343 00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:34,799 Speaker 1: I'm going to try again tomorrow. I just meditated. I 1344 00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,759 Speaker 1: still don't feel anything. I'm gonna try again whatever it is. 1345 00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,439 Speaker 1: Or I just meditated, I felt something. I'm not sure 1346 00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 1: what I felt, but I'm gonna try again tomorrow. Start 1347 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,640 Speaker 1: to set patterns up for yourself. They may seem stupid 1348 00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,880 Speaker 1: or trivial or like it's not gonna have an impact, 1349 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:51,520 Speaker 1: or if you try it a couple times and you 1350 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:55,040 Speaker 1: don't feel something significant, you're gonna get like, oh no, 1351 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:57,960 Speaker 1: you need to commit to yourself right now, you know, 1352 00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,360 Speaker 1: Like I want you to do all of these new hows, rabbits, 1353 00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:03,680 Speaker 1: whatever three you choose, whether it's journaling, like do a 1354 00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:07,799 Speaker 1: gratitude thing in the morning, a meditation, and something at 1355 00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:10,240 Speaker 1: night where you're like, thank you so much for this day, 1356 00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:12,520 Speaker 1: this is what I learned, this is something I want 1357 00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,719 Speaker 1: to remember about today. That's one of the prompts in 1358 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,040 Speaker 1: my gratitude journal says what is something you want to 1359 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:20,920 Speaker 1: remember for today. And I always make think, oh, yeah, 1360 00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,920 Speaker 1: show up you know whatever it is, like, yeah, I 1361 00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,439 Speaker 1: showed up for this when I wasn't in the mood, 1362 00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,000 Speaker 1: or I removed myself from the situation when I wasn't 1363 00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,840 Speaker 1: in the move, like something I learned that helped me today. 1364 00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:32,880 Speaker 1: Reading for me is always a good resetter. If I 1365 00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 1: could sit down and read for an hour, you know, 1366 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,919 Speaker 1: get some books and fucking read some books to get 1367 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:41,240 Speaker 1: yourself out of your own head and into someone else's story. 1368 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:44,080 Speaker 5: Also, I will just say, looking at you, you are 1369 00:55:44,160 --> 00:55:46,840 Speaker 5: absolutely beautiful. Okay, you're already a new bitch with the 1370 00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:49,600 Speaker 5: new nose, okay, but you are You are genuinely about 1371 00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:52,839 Speaker 5: to be in so many ways. And like Chelsea said, 1372 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 5: I can't relate to your scenario specifically, but what I 1373 00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 5: will say is my best friend in the world, she's 1374 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,319 Speaker 5: trans and I watched her go through something really really 1375 00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:03,040 Speaker 5: similar to you, where she was kind of leaning into 1376 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,120 Speaker 5: the promiscuous nature and then therefore she was attracting people 1377 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,439 Speaker 5: who were only attracted to that, and she it felt 1378 00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:12,520 Speaker 5: very transactional, and she was leaving these situations feeling either 1379 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:13,359 Speaker 5: unsafe or. 1380 00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:14,920 Speaker 2: Just lower about herself, et cetera. 1381 00:56:15,400 --> 00:56:17,080 Speaker 5: And then I watched her do the same thing where 1382 00:56:17,120 --> 00:56:18,920 Speaker 5: she was like, I'm cutting off anyone on this low 1383 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 5: vibration who just wants me for this. I'm going to 1384 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:23,879 Speaker 5: be lonely until I have to be lonely. She worked 1385 00:56:23,880 --> 00:56:26,160 Speaker 5: on her business. That's where the stand up comes in. 1386 00:56:26,239 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 5: She worked on thinks she was passionate about, and she 1387 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,440 Speaker 5: met this man that I would die for. He is 1388 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:36,799 Speaker 5: so incredibly just kind, accepting, funny, smart, He's proud of 1389 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:37,480 Speaker 5: her in every room. 1390 00:56:37,520 --> 00:56:38,840 Speaker 2: And she never thought she would, you know. 1391 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,320 Speaker 5: And it was the second she became this person where 1392 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,040 Speaker 5: she believed she deserved that, and she set these boundaries 1393 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,600 Speaker 5: in these standards there. It was all along, but she 1394 00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,240 Speaker 5: was never going to attract that person on that low vibration, 1395 00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:51,839 Speaker 5: you know. So I just want to say I've seen 1396 00:56:51,880 --> 00:56:54,560 Speaker 5: it personally and I believe in you to do it. 1397 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:55,359 Speaker 2: I really do. 1398 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 4: Thank you. 1399 00:56:56,360 --> 00:56:58,640 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, Okay, Naomi. 1400 00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 4: So that doesn't mean I'm not going to have anything 1401 00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:04,320 Speaker 4: like in the future, right, What do you mean. 1402 00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,640 Speaker 3: Like like hookups and getting together with guys and girl, 1403 00:57:08,080 --> 00:57:09,400 Speaker 3: you're about you're about. 1404 00:57:09,160 --> 00:57:12,560 Speaker 2: To levitate in ways you never know? Are you kidding me? That, 1405 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 2: I think, and you'll see how much more fulfilling it is. 1406 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 5: I think I had a lot of transactional sex in 1407 00:57:17,360 --> 00:57:19,280 Speaker 5: my life as well. When I was finally like making 1408 00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:22,400 Speaker 5: love to someone and like knew that they cared about 1409 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 5: me more as more than just a set of holes, 1410 00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:27,440 Speaker 5: I was like, Wow, this is this is amazing. 1411 00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: I think that is the difference you go from fucking 1412 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 1: to making love, which is a kind of corny thing 1413 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:33,800 Speaker 1: to say, but it's true. 1414 00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,600 Speaker 5: It's the worst thing ever to say. But also like 1415 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 5: you're levitating, like I promise. 1416 00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you are, Like you are investing in this 1417 00:57:40,160 --> 00:57:42,400 Speaker 1: time that you're spending right now, You are investing in 1418 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:43,240 Speaker 1: your future self. 1419 00:57:43,360 --> 00:57:45,080 Speaker 5: And you start to look back at all the times 1420 00:57:45,120 --> 00:57:48,320 Speaker 5: where you were just giving your energy away to these lizards, 1421 00:57:48,680 --> 00:57:51,200 Speaker 5: and you're like, oh my god, I'm so happy that 1422 00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:55,040 Speaker 5: I'm this energy exchange now is mutual and valid and 1423 00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:56,840 Speaker 5: I'm not going to look back one day with like 1424 00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 5: disdain and disgust at it, you know. 1425 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:00,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, Naomi. 1426 00:58:00,440 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 3: I also want to say you have value for who 1427 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:07,040 Speaker 3: you are, regardless of them placing value on you. You have 1428 00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,400 Speaker 3: value because of who you are. So I want you 1429 00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,040 Speaker 3: to be telling yourself that as well. 1430 00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,760 Speaker 4: Thank you guys so much. And Chelsea, I'll see you 1431 00:58:13,840 --> 00:58:15,720 Speaker 4: in Chicago and April. I'm so excited. 1432 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: Oh awesome, I love that. 1433 00:58:18,400 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 2: Okay, great, I'll see you then You're gonna die. She's 1434 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 2: the best. Keep us posting. Okay, Naomi, thank you. 1435 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:26,040 Speaker 4: I will thank you guys so much again. 1436 00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,720 Speaker 1: Okay, love you, Naomi, Bye, gorgeous, Love you too, Tana, 1437 00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 1: bye you. Okay, we're going to take a break and 1438 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:40,040 Speaker 1: we'll be right back. Okay, and we're back with Dana. 1439 00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:42,160 Speaker 2: Okay. 1440 00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:46,040 Speaker 3: We have a question about putting your job to become 1441 00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 3: an astrologer or threesomes. 1442 00:58:50,520 --> 00:58:52,680 Speaker 2: I also pick all right this one. 1443 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:57,440 Speaker 3: This one's just an email, But Natasha says, Dear Chelsea, 1444 00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,200 Speaker 3: I'm struggling a little with my desire for sex. My 1445 00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 3: boyfriend and I have been together for almost three years, 1446 00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 3: and while our relationship is amazing and that sex is great, 1447 00:59:05,440 --> 00:59:08,160 Speaker 3: I find myself wanting it more often than he does. Recently, 1448 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,240 Speaker 3: after kissing a few girls, I've been in the mood 1449 00:59:10,280 --> 00:59:12,600 Speaker 3: for a threesome. I know my boyfriend is open to 1450 00:59:12,640 --> 00:59:15,000 Speaker 3: the idea, but I'm unsure the best approach regarding the 1451 00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:18,600 Speaker 3: person and setting. Should we consider someone unknown, like meeting 1452 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,280 Speaker 3: someone on vacation, or is it better to choose someone 1453 00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:23,600 Speaker 3: we know, perhaps a neighbor or someone we meet at 1454 00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:26,600 Speaker 3: a bar in the city. I'm particularly concerned about finding 1455 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,880 Speaker 3: a situation that won't jeopardize our relationship. 1456 00:59:29,360 --> 00:59:30,120 Speaker 1: Not a neighbor. 1457 00:59:30,200 --> 00:59:35,960 Speaker 2: I literally, you're gonna hate getting the mail. Any advice 1458 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:37,760 Speaker 2: you could offer would be great, Natasha. 1459 00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:40,400 Speaker 1: I like threesomes too, and I think you should go 1460 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,000 Speaker 1: and find someone at a bar and have it be 1461 00:59:43,080 --> 00:59:46,520 Speaker 1: like an anonymous person and just see if you're up 1462 00:59:46,520 --> 00:59:48,720 Speaker 1: for that, or like if they're up for that, you know, 1463 00:59:48,920 --> 00:59:50,960 Speaker 1: and you guys have to like do that together so 1464 00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 1: that there's trust and like understand what the situation is 1465 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 1: before you go into it. Make sure that you guys 1466 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,360 Speaker 1: are like spelling out the boundaries for each other. 1467 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:01,640 Speaker 5: I also think the anonymity of the person kind of 1468 01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 5: does create a more secure foundation. You always hear the 1469 01:00:04,200 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 5: stories of it being the neighbor and the coworker, and 1470 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 5: then there's problems and I'm not sitting here, I. 1471 01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:10,640 Speaker 2: Don't know your man. He might be amazing, you know 1472 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:11,000 Speaker 2: what I. 1473 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,960 Speaker 5: Mean, But just still, I think that the safest route 1474 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,760 Speaker 5: is the anonymity, right YEA yeah, yeah, yeah. 1475 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,160 Speaker 2: Someone you never have to see again if you don't 1476 01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:19,480 Speaker 2: want to, Yes, exactly. 1477 01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:21,760 Speaker 1: And then you says, decide how you like that experience 1478 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:23,400 Speaker 1: and what you learned from it together and if it 1479 01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,480 Speaker 1: was fulfilling or if it was just like a fantasy. 1480 01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:28,280 Speaker 1: But like, there's nothing wrong with the threesome, Like I 1481 01:00:28,280 --> 01:00:29,840 Speaker 1: don't have any judgment towards. 1482 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:32,560 Speaker 2: That, Like I get it, all right, go for it, Natasha. 1483 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 2: And it's also sexy, you know, it's kind of sexy. Yeah, 1484 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:36,000 Speaker 2: and like that kind of it. 1485 01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,640 Speaker 5: There's no harm in trying something and then deciding that 1486 01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:40,000 Speaker 5: you don't like it. But the spelling out of the 1487 01:00:40,040 --> 01:00:41,880 Speaker 5: boundaries is also so important, you know. 1488 01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 1: All right, Tana, I love you. Her new solo podcast 1489 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,760 Speaker 1: is called Brand Safe. It'll be out when this is on. 1490 01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,600 Speaker 1: Please go listen to it. Where do people listen to it? 1491 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,040 Speaker 5: YouTube, Spotify, Apple Music. It's going to be everywhere. And 1492 01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:55,840 Speaker 5: I'm so excited to have you on today. You were 1493 01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:56,720 Speaker 5: my first guests. 1494 01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:59,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, so here and we're going where are we going? 1495 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:01,320 Speaker 2: I don't fucking know her? 1496 01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe to be honest with you, Okay, look great. 1497 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,000 Speaker 1: I love you and I'm so happy you're here and 1498 01:01:06,080 --> 01:01:08,720 Speaker 1: you were happy I met you in Burbanks even though 1499 01:01:08,760 --> 01:01:11,280 Speaker 1: I didn't meet Oh the best part about this story 1500 01:01:11,400 --> 01:01:16,320 Speaker 1: is I so we didn't even meet them, Yes, because 1501 01:01:16,320 --> 01:01:19,160 Speaker 1: we didn't even meet then because I got home. I 1502 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 1: have a publicity team, a PR team, my favorite people 1503 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,800 Speaker 1: in the fucking world. And Paul and Alec are two 1504 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:27,440 Speaker 1: gay guys who work on my PR team. Gay is 1505 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:29,800 Speaker 1: on a PR team, of course, and they're young, so 1506 01:01:29,800 --> 01:01:32,000 Speaker 1: they are always with it. They understand what's going on. 1507 01:01:32,040 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 1: And they were like, oh my god, this woman. You 1508 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:37,680 Speaker 1: were posting stories about seeing me at the airport, and 1509 01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:40,720 Speaker 1: they're like, this girl Tanna, she's like a huge influencer, Chelsea. 1510 01:01:40,880 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 1: You would love her. She like loves you, and she's 1511 01:01:43,800 --> 01:01:48,320 Speaker 1: posting about you. She's crying, she's got hysterical. Because I made. 1512 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:49,320 Speaker 2: The biggest missa. 1513 01:01:49,400 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 5: I ultimately decided because also I felt like it was 1514 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:55,880 Speaker 5: so interesting just karmically universally. Our seats weren't like next 1515 01:01:55,880 --> 01:01:57,960 Speaker 5: to each other, like just we both booked them. And 1516 01:01:57,960 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 5: then like Chelsea's in the seat, I'm in the seat. 1517 01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:02,960 Speaker 5: It's a jet, sweet plane. We are like this Starbucks 1518 01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:04,720 Speaker 5: cup is what fits in between us, Like we are 1519 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,320 Speaker 5: so close in proximity, and then ultimately I decided I 1520 01:02:08,360 --> 01:02:11,520 Speaker 5: feel like I parasocially know Chelsea Handler pretty well. I 1521 01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 5: know I don't think that she would live for this 1522 01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:16,720 Speaker 5: that she was then she is like, yes, it's nighttime, 1523 01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,160 Speaker 5: we're on this plane, like please bother me, Like I 1524 01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:21,520 Speaker 5: know that, and I was like, if it's meant to be, 1525 01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:23,240 Speaker 5: it will be. And then I went home and obviously 1526 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:25,440 Speaker 5: I can't shut my trap. So I made fifty tiktoks 1527 01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:26,400 Speaker 5: about it because I thought that. 1528 01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:27,240 Speaker 2: Would be the end of it. 1529 01:02:27,440 --> 01:02:29,040 Speaker 5: My best friend even texted me on the way here 1530 01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 5: and he was just like, how cool is it that, 1531 01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,600 Speaker 5: like go tell you on that plane that like you 1532 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,400 Speaker 5: would get to have a day like today. And I 1533 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,200 Speaker 5: appreciate you're a busy woman, You're a powerhouse. You don't 1534 01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 5: have to do the things you do. And I think 1535 01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:43,600 Speaker 5: that's what makes it so special, is like knowing you 1536 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:45,080 Speaker 5: don't have to text me at three a I'm a 1537 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:46,120 Speaker 5: hilarious video. 1538 01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:46,440 Speaker 2: About your day. 1539 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 5: You don't have to, you know what I mean, give 1540 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,000 Speaker 5: me all this advice walking through life. You don't have 1541 01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:52,760 Speaker 5: to have a whole podcast day with me, but you 1542 01:02:52,800 --> 01:02:54,200 Speaker 5: do it anyways, and that's who you are. 1543 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:57,960 Speaker 1: So thank thank you, baby, thank you. Okay, that's enough. 1544 01:02:58,200 --> 01:02:59,000 Speaker 1: That's enough about me. 1545 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:04,560 Speaker 3: If you want advice from Chelsea, write into Dear Chelsea 1546 01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,560 Speaker 3: podcast at gmail dot com. 1547 01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,200 Speaker 2: Dear Chelsea is a production of iHeartMedia. 1548 01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,439 Speaker 3: Follow Chelsea on all socials at Chelsea Handler, and find 1549 01:03:12,520 --> 01:03:16,400 Speaker 3: Katherine on TikTok at Flashcadabra. Dear Chelsea is edited and 1550 01:03:16,560 --> 01:03:20,640 Speaker 3: engineered by Brandon Dickert executive producer Katherine Law. Find full 1551 01:03:20,720 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 3: video episodes and minisodes now on Netflix, and get tickets 1552 01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:31,960 Speaker 3: to see Chelsea live at Chelseahandler dot com