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Speaker 2: Week continues. Today we have chicken sandwiches and fish sandwiches.

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Speaker 4: WHOA, yes, yes, I think a special kind of chicken sandwich.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think specifically a Nashville hot chicken sand Nashville

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Speaker 5: huh yeah, just like a normal like okay cutlet all.

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Speaker 2: Right, and then we're having a fish sandwich as well,

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Speaker 2: as we try to narrow it down to the greatest

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Speaker 2: sandwich in America hot sandwich.

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Speaker 5: By the way, Unfortunately the Italian beef didn't make the

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Speaker 5: cut somehow. There was a big push for pulled pork, but.

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Speaker 4: That would fall in the barbecue category.

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Speaker 5: As we've established all week that we're not doing barbecue

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Speaker 5: sandwiches in this Hot Sandwich Pole.

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Speaker 4: Next year's own category.

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Speaker 2: Next year we're gonna have breakfast category we're gonna have

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Speaker 2: barbecue category. So we're working, we're workshopping. This is we

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Speaker 2: like to say in the industry, what happened yesterday. See

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Speaker 2: people call it winging it as we do it. We

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Speaker 2: usually do that best. Okay, got admit yesterday the French

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Speaker 2: dip absolutely rolled. The pole rolled.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I see what you do.

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Speaker 5: The pole boy sixty six percent?

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Speaker 4: Okay, So sort of the Yukon men's basketball.

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Speaker 5: Yeah right now is the just undisputed heavyweight champion.

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Speaker 4: Okay, fair enough?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, So that's the showdown today and then

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Speaker 2: we'll have the final fork for you tomorrow on a

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Speaker 2: meat Friday.

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Speaker 5: Yes, people may think that a fish sandwich sounds a

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Speaker 5: little boring, but it is just a Titan of sandwiches.

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Speaker 4: Okay, a fish sandwich, all right.

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Speaker 2: I was a little surprised that it made the cut,

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Speaker 2: that made the plate, but all right, I'm open minded.

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Speaker 6: Guess, Paul Grouper, Mahi mahi. There's lots of options there

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Speaker 6: going back to pulled pork. As much as a barbecue

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Speaker 6: enthusiast as I am, I think it's a right call

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Speaker 6: because usually when you go to a place at serve

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Speaker 6: sandwiches and they have pulled pork amongst them, You're like, well,

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Speaker 6: want a good one, you go to a barbecue restaurant. Okay,

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Speaker 6: I think that's a right call. Well, thank you for that.

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Speaker 2: Third best MVP odds behind Patrick Mahomes Josh. If Josh

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Speaker 2: that's for sure. So Mahomes is your favorite, then it's

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Speaker 2: Josh Allen. Joe Burrow and c. J. Stroud are tied

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Speaker 2: for the third best odds to win the MVP. And

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Speaker 2: the Texans went to plus sixteen hundred to win the

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Speaker 2: The Bill's general manager, Brandon Bean had this to say

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Speaker 7: I mean, are we better today?

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Speaker 5: Probably not.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we're It's a work in progress and we're going

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Speaker 7: that people know I'm as competitive as hell.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not.

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Speaker 7: I ain't giving in, and we're gonna We're going to

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Speaker 7: work through this and we're going to continue to look

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Speaker 7: and I'm confident in a the guys we have on

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Speaker 7: the roster, and I'm confident you know, the staff we

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Speaker 2: I would love to know. I don't know if somebody

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Speaker 2: had the opportunity to ask the general manager. Did Stefan

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Speaker 2: Diggs ask for a trade? Did anything lead up to this?

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Speaker 2: to try to help Stroud. I don't know if he's

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Speaker 2: that he was going to get with Buffalo, because people

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Speaker 2: looked at the salary and said, well, he's a twenty

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Speaker 2: for eighteen or nineteen million. That he's got another year

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Speaker 2: as well, Like did Buffalo need to trade him? Why

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Speaker 2: did you trade him? These are things that I would

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Speaker 2: love to ask the general manager there, because it feels

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Speaker 2: like you took a step back. Here is the GM again,

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Speaker 2: Brandon bean On that.

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Speaker 8: These moves are never easy, very hard, not made overnight

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Speaker 8: anything like that. But anytime you make a move like this,

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Speaker 8: you're trying to win, and sometimes people may not see that.

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Speaker 8: You know, this is by no means the pills given

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Speaker 2: I would like to know, Okay, why isn't this a

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Speaker 2: step back? Give me some confidence here? You're going to

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Speaker 2: Brandon Iu because he in the picture, like maybe he

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Speaker 2: doesn't want to give you too many details, But if

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Speaker 2: I'm sitting there as a reporter, I got a lot

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Speaker 2: of questions here and Stefan Diggs just said, hey, four

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Speaker 2: great years in Buffalo, thank you. Going to the Texans.

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Speaker 2: But I don't know if there was any acrimony here.

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Speaker 4: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: It felt like there was something there. And you know,

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Speaker 2: these receivers sometimes don't realize that maybe you're not that

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Speaker 2: go to guy that you once were. That's another thing.

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Speaker 2: You go to the Texans, he's going to want to

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Speaker 2: show everybody, hey, Buffalo didn't use me correctly, or I'm

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Speaker 2: still a go to guy.

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Speaker 4: I don't want CJ.

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Speaker 2: Stroud to do what Baker Mayfield did with OBJ, and

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Speaker 2: that is he kept playing to OBJ and OBJ wasn't

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Speaker 2: the best receiver on the Cleveland Browns. The Texans, they

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Speaker 2: went out, they're going after it. I love it. It feels

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Speaker 2: like they're going after it far more than Buffalo is.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo lost a lot of defensive players as well. But

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Speaker 2: when you have that rookie contract, you can go out

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Speaker 2: and get this guy. And you're seeing this with younger quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Teams are surrounding them with weapons. It happened with Tua,

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Speaker 2: with Tyreek Hill, it happened with Jalen Hurts, with AJ Brown.

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Speaker 2: You know, Pete Carroll kind of invented this it feels

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Speaker 2: got to two Super Bowls.

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Speaker 3: C J.

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Speaker 2: Stroud's cap hit is just under nine million next season,

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Speaker 2: so that allowed them to go get Joe Mixon to

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Speaker 2: nail Hunter and then they get stef On Diggs. They're

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Speaker 2: ready to go, and they won ten games last year.

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Speaker 2: That confidence level, they're not going to surprise anybody this year.

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Speaker 2: And it almost feels like everybody's gonna jump on the bandwagon.

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Speaker 2: And I would caution you know, when you bring people

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Speaker 2: fail spectacularly. That you're trying to get that team on

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Speaker 2: the same page. Because last year ye were underdogs, and

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Speaker 2: you know, we didn't know about c J.

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Speaker 4: Stroud.

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Speaker 2: We quickly found out Jamiko Ryan's first head coaching job.

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Speaker 2: I can't help but think about the Jets. The Jets

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Speaker 2: looking at the Texans, because the Texans got the defensive

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Speaker 2: didn't work out, obviously, But with the Texans, Jmiko Rans

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Speaker 2: Isn't that strange how you can have the same scenario

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Speaker 2: Robert Sala is going to stay. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: he's going to last. Zach Wilson hasn't. But CJ. Stroud

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Speaker 2: looks like he's a franchise quarterback and you got Dumko Ryans,

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Speaker 2: So it's quick. It happens that quickly. But that's why

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Speaker 2: what the Bears are doing with Caleb Williams, I think

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Speaker 2: that's the smart thing to do. Don't send that quarterback

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Speaker 2: out and go, hey, we're paying you your number one pick.

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Speaker 2: Go out there and earn it. Because it's not working

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Speaker 2: for Bryce Young in Carolina. And until they surround him,

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Speaker 2: you know, we're not gonna see if he can really

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Speaker 2: play and be a franchise quarterback.

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Speaker 9: Yes, Marvin, if the Bills win twelve games, will it

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Speaker 9: be easier for Josh Allen to win the MVP Award

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Speaker 9: Because they don't have Stefan Diggs.

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Speaker 2: Sure, sure, but you know with Buffalo, it's the same

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Speaker 2: thing with the Ravens. With the Cowboys, whatever you do

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Speaker 2: during the regular season, it doesn't matter. We've seen that.

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's like like the Boston Celtics. Hey, first

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Speaker 2: team to sixty wins? Okay, great, who cares. What are

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Speaker 2: you gonna do in the playoffs? You're gonna win? You

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Speaker 2: gonna win a title. It's like the Joker, Oh great,

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Speaker 2: another great season. Let's see what you do in the playoffs.

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Speaker 2: He wins a title. We never asked that question again. Joannis,

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Speaker 2: Oh great, MVP. What are you gonna do? When are

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Speaker 2: you gonna win? Win a title? Clayton Kershaw, Well, that's great,

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Speaker 2: Let's see what you do in the playoffs. There's certain players,

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Speaker 2: there's certain teams, and I think that's what we'll do

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Speaker 2: with Buffalo. We'll do that with Baltimore and Lamar Jackson.

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Speaker 2: We'll do that with the Cowboys. Hey, twelve wins, great,

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Speaker 2: what's it mean nothing? They've had home field advantage. They

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Speaker 2: that matchup in the postseason. That's what we want to see.

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Speaker 4: Make the playoffs. That's the key.

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Speaker 2: I gave you my possible poll question first hour. Better

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Speaker 4: Because better?

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Speaker 4: We can do.

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Speaker 5: It's in the same vein that may have been somebody

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Speaker 4: Oh is that yours? Yeah? Really?

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Speaker 5: Yeahs as soon as oh no, sorry sorry I had Bills.

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Speaker 5: I love pitting Texans Cowboys against each other. Yeah. It's fantastic.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you get clicks. You know, that's what everybody's

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Speaker 2: I don't know if it's an accurate analogy or comparison,

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Speaker 2: By the way, Vince Carter and Chauncey Billups going into

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Speaker 2: Chauncey Billups his career. I want to be fair to him.

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Speaker 2: be fair to the situation. There, all right, eight seven

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's about the same thing. But the

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Speaker 2: Better chance. Let me go with better team in Texas

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Speaker 11: Oh, Texans are Texans? Are quarterbacks? Both good? CJ. Stroud's past,

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Speaker 4: Help me understand why Buffalo did this, Dan.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I would be concerned about. You're getting

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Speaker 11: camp or in August. The real test is gonna be

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Speaker 11: when Nico Collins has nine catches for a buck fifty

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Speaker 11: and two touchdowns and in Game three, Stefan Diggs catches

438
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Speaker 11: two balls for twenty eight yards and the Texans win.

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Speaker 11: That's when you're going to find out where's the headache.

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Speaker 11: Is it a migrain or is it just a little

441
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Speaker 11: nag Because it's it's hanging around in a tie on

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Speaker 11: all will fix it. This is a tremendous upgrade if

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Speaker 11: in fact, Stefan Diggs goes back to the way he

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Speaker 11: was when he came into this league and had something

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Speaker 11: to prove, and he does have something to prove. And

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Speaker 11: I just think the bandwidth of this offense going into

447
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Speaker 11: a game is huge, but there is still that if

448
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Speaker 11: and if you have too many ifs on a team

449
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Speaker 11: that becomes a problem. I think with Ryan's and CJ. Stroud,

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Speaker 11: and I think he's at a slippery slope in his

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Speaker 11: career as Stefan Diggs to get to the level that

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Speaker 11: he wants to be. But it can't just be about

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Speaker 11: his numbers. It's got to be about what's really hitting

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Speaker 11: yours and that's putting a ring on your finger in

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Speaker 11: the process. Because Nicocollins and Tank Dell are both really

456
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Speaker 11: good players. But trying to defend this offense now, I

457
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Speaker 11: think it's one of the three or four or I

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Speaker 11: might be cheating them out of a slaughter or two.

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Speaker 11: Most explosive offense is at least on paper if things

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Speaker 11: work out in the league, because remember Dan Mixing is

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Speaker 11: as good as we have coming out of the backfield,

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Speaker 11: Laka McCaffrey catching the football in space. How are you

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Speaker 11: going to defend them all? If they're healthy and a

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Speaker 11: little bit lucky with attitude.

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Speaker 2: Seawan Salisbury, former NFL quarterback and host of The Sean

466
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Speaker 2: Salisbury Show Sports Talk seven to ninety in Houston, where

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Speaker 2: a few weeks away from the draft, the quarterback that

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Speaker 2: makes you nervous is who.

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Speaker 11: Well I think the guy at the top of the

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Speaker 11: draft and Caleb Williams, and as an SC fan, doesn't

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Speaker 11: make dan if we didn't know anything about the guy

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Speaker 11: and you and I were sitting around in a film

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Speaker 11: room and a plug against tape and so let's just

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Speaker 11: watch him play. First thought is dynamic playmaker. I get

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Speaker 11: the comparisons with Mahomes because of the ability to playoff

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Speaker 11: schedule and all those things, but the questions will exist,

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Speaker 11: and you know how locker rooms are. Is is he

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Speaker 11: a guy that while everybody else is wearing, you know,

479
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Speaker 11: a green pair of shoes, he's wearing a red pair.

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Speaker 11: Is he a guy that if things aren't going his

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Speaker 11: way that it doesn't matter. He can find a way

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Speaker 11: to win. When he's not having that Caleb Williams performance,

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Speaker 11: he is that dynamic, phenomenal football player. Locker rooms matter

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Speaker 11: to me. They do. And when you're a guy that

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Speaker 11: beats to a different drum and he does, and guys

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Speaker 11: are giving you a hard time, can you handle that

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Speaker 11: locker room fund that we call it, or some would

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Speaker 11: call it getting because he is gonna get it from veterans.

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Speaker 11: He just is, you know, whether it's the painting, the

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Speaker 11: nails or wearing a clutch and a purse and doing

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Speaker 11: all those things. But the truth is, if he's a playmaker,

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Speaker 11: that will go by the wayside, and he is. But

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Speaker 11: leadership buy in and guys that locker room, it doesn't

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Speaker 11: matter what you and I think it matters what those

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Speaker 11: guys sitting next to him. But if you can play,

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Speaker 11: they don't care. But the locker room's a different place.

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Speaker 11: So I am dicerned about the leadership and buy in overall.

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Speaker 11: If things aren't goal, well, he's not going to the

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Speaker 11: Kansas City Chiefs. He's going to a team that's picking

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Speaker 11: first for a reason. So I'm anxious to see how

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Speaker 11: he responds to that. And so I do have questions.

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Speaker 11: I don't have questions about him on the playing field,

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Speaker 11: So it's the periphery stuff and some I've talked to

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Speaker 11: two coaches at SC about a year and a half

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Speaker 11: ago that said they do buy in. They love the guy.

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Speaker 11: And then you hear guys say, well, do you want

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Speaker 11: that guy leading your team because he maybe beats to

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Speaker 11: a little different drum, which is okay, but his performance

509
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Speaker 11: on the field will dictate that otherwise, then you go down.

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Speaker 11: I think Jayden Daniels is the hell of a player

511
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Speaker 11: quick release and showed me that he pushes the ball

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Speaker 11: down the field because a year before last he did

513
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Speaker 11: not take many shots. Pennix is a great pocket guy.

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Speaker 11: JJ McCarthy too. Here's why people are going to question

515
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Speaker 11: this one. Dan trading up to get him. Think North

516
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Speaker 11: Carolina basketball when Michael Jordan, Antoine Jamison and Vince Carter

517
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Speaker 11: they played average in seventeen eighteen a game, but you

518
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Speaker 11: knew the gym was there when they were able to

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Speaker 11: get out from under. Maybe Dean Smith and expand. That's

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Speaker 11: JJ McCarthy. He's got great feet, He's a winner, which

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Speaker 11: you crave, and it's in his DNA. He is an

522
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Speaker 11: accurate passer and he can throw the football. But he

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Speaker 11: hasn't had a chance to expand because that's not what

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Speaker 11: Jim does at Michigan. He's going to get the chance

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Speaker 11: you're trading up for him. I think that while there's

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Speaker 11: gonna be questions, I actually think that he is five

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Speaker 11: years from now, could be one of the best we

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Speaker 11: have in this draft because he wins and he gets it.

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Speaker 11: But expanding his variety to stand back and throw it

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Speaker 11: forty times He's going to have to be well coached

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Speaker 11: at the next level. Leadership for Williams, more throwing for

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Speaker 11: JJ McCarthy. Those are probably the concerns for both guys

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Speaker 11: that could have sensational careers.

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Speaker 2: Always great to catch up with you get your insights.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Sean, Appreciate you, Dan, Thank you, buddy. Sean Salisbury,

536
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Speaker 2: former quarterback host of The Sewn Salisbury Show Sports Talk

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Speaker 2: seven ninety in Houston.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I go back to that because young quarterbacks Baker Mayfield

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Speaker 2: did this with OBJ big personality. OBJ wanted to prove

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Speaker 2: everybody wrong, and it was to the detriment of the

542
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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns and Baker Mayfield that he kept looking for

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Speaker 2: OBJ and he wasn't the best wide receiver. Jarvis Landry

544
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Speaker 2: was the better receiver there. Now you bring in Stefan

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Speaker 2: Diggs to a second year quarterback and he's going to

546
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Speaker 2: want to prove everybody wrong. That would be my concern.

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Speaker 2: Thirty year old wide receiver. Is he still a number

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Speaker 2: one receiver? So I got those are questions, and those

549
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Speaker 2: might be good questions to have for the Texans with Buffalo.

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Speaker 2: The questions I have are like, Okay, what is the

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Speaker 2: identity is a quarterback that you're going to spend a

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Speaker 2: lot of money, and your window your windows closing because

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Speaker 2: once you get to that big number, now they're restructuring

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Speaker 2: their deals. You know, most of these quarterbacks are, so

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Speaker 2: you're able to re sign some people. But this is

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Speaker 2: the problem with Dallas. You know, Cede Lamb's going to

557
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Speaker 2: want twenty five million, maybe thirty million. Micah Parson's gonna

558
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Speaker 2: want thirty million. You're gonna pay Dak. There's only so

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Speaker 2: much money to go around. And that's where that window

560
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Speaker 2: of opportunity you have four or five years, and then

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Speaker 2: after that you hope that the quarterback will help you

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Speaker 2: out a little bit, and then you're able to keep

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Speaker 2: these players. I mean, this is what Mahomes is doing.

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Speaker 2: Mahomes now everything that he does from now on is

565
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Speaker 2: in pursuit of Tom Brady. He's already a Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 2: he's got everything, he's got money. Now it's I'm going

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Speaker 2: after Tom Brady. Now, he still got some other quarterbacks,

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Speaker 2: you know, with Terry Bradshaw and Joe Montana with four

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Speaker 2: Super Bowls, But that's it. How do I get there?

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Speaker 2: The only way I get there is if we get

571
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Speaker 2: to keep these players. We get to re sign some

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Speaker 2: of these players.

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Speaker 4: That's it. And and that mentality.

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Speaker 2: Now he's on management side of Okay, I'm gonna take

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Speaker 2: less defer this I need to have make sure we

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Speaker 2: get this guy. Or you know, I was talking to

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Speaker 2: somebody yesterday with the league and they said, you know,

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be surprised Kansas City went after a wide

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Speaker 2: receiver another wide receiver, Like, why not? Because they did

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Speaker 2: bolster They won because of their defense.

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Speaker 4: Last year.

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Speaker 2: We think of the Chiefs and you think of Patrick

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Speaker 2: Mahomes and Travis Kelcey, but you know, Chris Jones and

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Speaker 2: the defense that's why they won. I mean, look at

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Speaker 2: the biggest play of the Super Bowl where the Niners

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Speaker 2: and you have a wide open wide receiver, but they

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Speaker 2: left Chris Jones unblocked, got in there, put pressure, and

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Speaker 2: then they settled for a field goal.

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Speaker 4: That's the difference.

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Speaker 8: That's it.

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Speaker 2: So those one play, two plays that decide your season,

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Speaker 2: and a lot of times most of the time it's

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Speaker 2: about defense.

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Speaker 4: Did you get the stop or you did you didn't

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Speaker 4: get the stop? Yeah. Point after the show.

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Speaker 6: Here yesterday watching the NFL network, and there's a replay

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Speaker 6: of the Super Bowl with the Bengals and the Rams

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Speaker 6: and Matthew Stafford drives them down. They score, angles get

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Speaker 6: the ball back with like a minute thirty left and

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Speaker 6: two timeouts. They are cruising downfield. They had a second

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Speaker 6: and two. They run the ball, Aaron Donald eats it up.

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Speaker 6: Now you know it's now it's fourth down and one.

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Speaker 6: Aaron Donald gets through and gets the basically the sack

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Speaker 6: on him. Aaron Donald had two straight plays to walk

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Speaker 6: off that game and get a ring. They were cruising downfield,

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Speaker 6: the Bengals could have won, and.

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Speaker 4: The only guy I got a block is Aaron Donald.

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Speaker 11: That's it.

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Speaker 2: I got to make sure that I know Aaron Donald

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Speaker 2: will not decide this game. That's all the Niners had

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Speaker 2: to do. Make sure somebody's on. Chris Jones.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it really stands out to me the more you've

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Speaker 5: said it for years. But there's almost always one guy

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Speaker 5: that you're like, I'm not gonna let that guy beat me, right,

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Speaker 5: and he's Aaron Donalds is certainly one of them. Sure

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Speaker 5: that sort of speaks to greatness. Right when even when

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Speaker 5: you're the guy and the game plan for you, you

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Speaker 5: still find a way to win. That's a remarkable trait to.

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Speaker 2: Have Andrew and Santa Monica. Hey, Andrew, what's on your

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Speaker 2: lind today, Dan, I.

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Speaker 3: Got twenty years of grievance that you just triggered. Okay.

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Speaker 3: The reason why, the reason why John stock That never

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Speaker 3: saw a ring wasn't because of Michael Jordan. It was

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Speaker 3: because of Irvine Magic Johnson. Okay, their entire prime, Carl

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Speaker 3: Malone and John Stockin were getting bounced and dominated by

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Speaker 3: Irvin Magic Johnson and all these other fantastic teams in

627
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Speaker 3: the West and in the East because of Urban Magic Johnson.

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Speaker 3: Do you remember the dath Mavericks, Orlando Blackman, Derek Harper,

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Speaker 3: Mark Gwire, Roy Tarpley, that Lived Shrimp, Sam Perkins, Sam Donaldson.

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Speaker 3: This team never sniffed the finals because of Irvine Magic Johnson.

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Speaker 3: And while we're on the subject, the greatest player of

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Speaker 3: all time is not Michael Jordan, it is Urvin Magic Johnson.

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Speaker 3: There is no logical case for Michael Jordan being the

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Speaker 3: greatest player of all time. It took him seven years

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Speaker 3: to win a championship. It took Magic eight months. Magic won.

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Speaker 3: Worst championship without Kareem is the last championship without Kareem

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Speaker 3: he was in the finals his entire career, he won

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Speaker 3: five rings. Yeah, Jordan won six, But who did he beat?

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Speaker 3: Magic Johnson was beating dynasties, Doctor j Moses Malone, right,

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Speaker 3: Mo Chiefs, these guys, the Celtics, right with Larry Bird

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Speaker 3: and McHale, the bad boys. I mean, there's no logical

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Speaker 3: argument is a Nike height machine myth that Jordan is

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Speaker 3: the greatest of all time when you really think about it,

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Speaker 3: when you make a logical case, it's Irvin Magic Johnson.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'm glad that you got it out there

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Speaker 2: Andrew triggered something. Okay, your opinion. You're in Los Angeles.

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Speaker 2: I would be surprised if you didn't think that Magic

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Speaker 2: or Kareem was the goat. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: See.

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Speaker 5: Sometimes I do wonder, though, if we took away the

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Speaker 5: Jordan brand sneakers.

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Speaker 3: And the.

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Speaker 5: Shadow that that cast and continues to asked, okay, would

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Speaker 5: Michael Jordan's still be by far and away the number

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Speaker 5: one overall greatest basketball player of all time. I think

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Speaker 5: it factors in to the almost the myth, right, it

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Speaker 5: continues to make him larger than life. The fact that

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Speaker 5: we could be like you know, Derek Jeter where's the

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Speaker 5: Jordan brands?

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Speaker 4: That's how good he is.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know what I mean. That brand continues to

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Speaker 5: grow in popularity. It's just it's such a monster of

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Speaker 5: its own that I wonder how much it impacts his

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Speaker 5: playing legacy.

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Speaker 2: Magic's name does not come up as in the conversation

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Speaker 2: the greatest players of all time, it's Magic and Bird together.

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Speaker 4: They're like one.

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Speaker 2: If you had a top ten list, I would put

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Speaker 2: them together at whatever number you want to put him at.

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Speaker 2: Kobe almost comes up more because he was similar to

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Speaker 2: Michael and he won titles as well. So Magic came

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Speaker 2: in and he joined a really good team. Mike did

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Speaker 2: not join a good team. Look at the Bulls teams.

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Speaker 4: Not good.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Marv, Yeah, Magic's rookie year. Kareem won the league

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Speaker 9: MVP that season. I think he won Game six without Kareem,

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Speaker 9: even when the entire NBA Finals without Kareem. He just

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Speaker 9: had a monster Game six. And I'm not taking anything away,

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Speaker 9: But we talked about Moses Malone yesterday. Moses and Doctor

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Speaker 9: J swept the Lakers ab out of the paint in

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Speaker 9: eighty three. Those faux fox fo sixers. The Lakers, fully healthy,

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Speaker 9: fully equipped, Moses Malone got them out of here. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: that never happened to Mike and I hate doing it,

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Speaker 9: but I'm sorry Michael Jordan before the rings and to

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Speaker 9: see in his point, I think Michael wouldn't have been iconic.

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Speaker 9: He just would have been the greatest player. But I

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Speaker 9: think the Jordan brand and the commercials make him iconic

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Speaker 9: and mythical.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but once again, go back and look at his

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Speaker 2: rosters that he had when he put on that show

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Speaker 2: in the Boston Garden. He had to he was going

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Speaker 2: against one of the greatest teams of all time.

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Speaker 4: Give me the bowl. Let me take a break. Here, Paul,

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Speaker 4: here we go. Here, Yes, Andrew, Yeah, here we go.

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Speaker 5: Shout out Andrew.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're gonna take it. We're gonna take it. You've

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Speaker 2: triggered me. Now we're gonna take a break. Play the

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Speaker 12: Oh My, God.

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Speaker 4: Of the Day lives on it. This is the play

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Speaker 4: of the day.

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Speaker 7: Check this out.

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Speaker 4: Rogers set the pitch.

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Speaker 12: One on a drowned tape right field there it is

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Speaker 12: well first home runners a Los Angeles Dodger for show

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Speaker 12: hal Tony and that's five.

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Speaker 2: That's courtesy of a M five seventy l a Sports

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Speaker 2: Dodgers radio net work. Since the start of last season,

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Speaker 2: Otani has twenty one home runs of four hundred and

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Speaker 2: thirty feet are longer, six more than any other player.

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Speaker 4: By the way, just the sound. I've said this.

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Speaker 2: Before, there's certain guys they hit a ball and it

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Speaker 2: sounds different. It's like Tiger Woods at his peak on

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Speaker 2: the range, there were golfers who could didn't even have

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Speaker 2: to watch Tiger. They could hear it and they knew

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Speaker 2: that that was Tiger hitting golf balls. Play of the

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Speaker 4: Should be all right.

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Speaker 2: So Otani's home run and there was a woman in

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Speaker 2: the right field bleachers. She ended up with the ball

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Speaker 2: and she gave it back to Otania's first Dodger home run.

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Speaker 2: She got a couple of baseballs, she got a bat,

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Speaker 2: and she got a couple of Dodger hats. She got

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Speaker 2: to meet him as well. Now, normally, you know, we

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Speaker 2: try to you got some leverage with these guys. How

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Speaker 2: badly do you want it? And that's not a bad hole.

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Speaker 2: But I would want the bat that he hit the

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Speaker 2: home run with. I would take that and I don't

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Speaker 2: need anything else. Give me the bat that you hit

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Speaker 2: the home run with. Now, guys don't want to give

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Speaker 2: up their bats, but that's what I would want. Give

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Speaker 2: me your bat, autograph the bat, and then autograph on

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Speaker 2: their my first Dodger home run. That's what I would

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Speaker 2: ask for. I'd want you to have the ball. I

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Speaker 2: would want to have your bat, the one you hit

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Speaker 2: the home run with. I don't think he's going to

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Speaker 2: give that up, though, Todd, what would you ask for now?

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Speaker 13: I love that idea. I think that that was not enough.

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Speaker 13: A couple of hats, and I want either the ball

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Speaker 13: or the bat signed. You know, I don't think he

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Speaker 13: needs to have both of those. That's a big deal

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Speaker 13: and that's a.

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Speaker 4: Well you could get the ball signed, but it's not

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Speaker 4: going to be the home run ball.

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Speaker 13: Well, that's what I want.

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Speaker 4: I want the actual ball or no, you already have

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Speaker 4: the ball.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, but if I'm giving the ball away, I want

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Speaker 13: to I want either the bat or the ball from

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Speaker 13: that play. Is that asking too much?

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Speaker 5: I don't know, because that's going to.

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Speaker 4: Be worth a lot, especially if if you have the

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Speaker 4: ball you can keep it.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: But if you want to do the right thing and

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Speaker 13: let him keep the ball because that you know, to

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Speaker 13: let him have one of those two things is what

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Speaker 13: I'm saying. Like he's going to want the bat or

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Speaker 13: the ball.

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Speaker 4: Okay, point, but the only way you meet him is

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Speaker 4: if you're giving the ball back.

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Speaker 13: I'm less interested in meeting him and more interested in

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Speaker 13: the item, either the bat or the ball signed. And

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Speaker 13: he may not want to sign the ball unless you

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Speaker 13: know he wants the ball back.

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Speaker 4: Sign You're not making any sense.

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Speaker 9: I'm not making sense.

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Speaker 4: You have the ball. If you give it back, you

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Speaker 4: don't get the ball.

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Speaker 13: I would be willing to give him the ball back,

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Speaker 13: but I would want the bat then from the That

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Speaker 13: doesn't make sense.

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Speaker 4: Well, that does you want the ball?

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Speaker 13: I'm fine with giving away the ball. I want either

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Speaker 13: the bat or the ball. If he wants the ball back,

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Speaker 13: then I want the bat.

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Speaker 12: He hit the home run with that.

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Speaker 4: Okay, this wasn't a good idea, Pauling, Yeah.

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Speaker 6: I want the last two minutes of my life.

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Speaker 5: I think the whole point is that they don't want

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Speaker 5: to give up either of those things. They want the

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Speaker 5: bat and the ball. Sure, so what can we give

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Speaker 5: you an exchange to not have to release either of

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Speaker 5: those two items because those are important to us, Like

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Speaker 5: you also can't have his jersey, They'll give me his

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Speaker 5: jersey then, No, they want to keep that too.

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Speaker 4: They want to keep everything.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: I think that's the point that you should keep the

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Speaker 5: ball and sell it for who knows what down the road.

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Speaker 11: That's all.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Yes, I would probably keep the ball and sell it.

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Speaker 6: But if I was going to trade it, I would

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Speaker 6: actually tell the Dodgers, I want two seats to your

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Speaker 6: next World Series game whenever that is. I want two

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Speaker 6: free seats anywhere in the building to your next World Series.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but I would hold onto the baseball and then

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Speaker 2: cash that in and then I could get seats to

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Speaker 2: all of the World Series game for sure.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, good option.

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Speaker 2: But I would ask for more than a couple of

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Speaker 2: hats and a couple of baseballs and a chance to

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Speaker 2: meet him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 13: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I think people go a little crazy in these scenarios.

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Speaker 4: The fan Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 5: Well I think I think what they got was either

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Speaker 5: you're going to do it because you want to give

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Speaker 5: them the ball back and like, hey, thanks for the hats,

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Speaker 5: and then we got to meet him. That was pretty

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Speaker 5: cool picture, and then you have a great story for

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Speaker 5: the rest of your life. People are kind of I

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Speaker 5: want two hundred and fifty thousand dollars cash and unmarked bills,

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Speaker 5: and I would like season tickets. Plus I also want

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Speaker 5: a lifetime supply baseballs and bets for myself. Like, people

825
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Speaker 5: just go crazy with this stuff. You don't even know

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Speaker 5: if this thing is actually going to be worth anything. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: that'll be worth something in yeah, but maybe not as

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Speaker 5: much as I would like a small island the spacific

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Speaker 5: first Dodger home run.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, it's like their lottery though, Like, you know, people

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Speaker 13: are making ends meet.

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Speaker 4: This guy's worth a billion dollars.

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Speaker 5: I've got to do your game making ends meet.

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Speaker 2: Uh, we'll talk. Michael Jordan coming up here next hour,

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Speaker 2: one hour in the books, two more to go. Dan

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Speaker 2: Patrick Show,