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Speaker 1: Cast Playground. This is busnight and today on the Taking

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Speaker 1: a Walk podcast series, I'm outside the historic ed Sullivan

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Speaker 1: Theater in New York City. This landmark is where the

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Speaker 1: Beatles play, and it's where the Late Show with Stephen

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Speaker 1: Colebear happens, and it's where our guest spends a lot

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Speaker 1: of hours every week. Paul mecurio is an American comedian

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Speaker 1: and writer. He's been working his craft across the country

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Speaker 1: as a stand up. He's been in film TV, including

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Speaker 1: on Coldbear, Let's Go Take a Walk with Paul mccurio

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Speaker 1: taking a Walk with Buzz Night. Well, Paul, it's so

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Speaker 1: great to be with you as we're taking a walk

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Speaker 1: kind of sort of here outside the ed Sullivan Theater.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining the Taking a Walk podcast series. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: I'm really grateful. So I'll have a lot I want

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Speaker 1: to talk to you about. First of all, you're just

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Speaker 1: back here in terms of your work on the Stephen

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Speaker 1: Colbert Late Night Show. Yeah, must feel great to be bad.

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Speaker 1: It is. Yeah, we were dark for a week and

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Speaker 1: you know, every I don't know, every seems like six

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Speaker 1: to eight weeks we have a dark week and it's

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Speaker 1: basically so everybody on the show, can go into rehab.

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Speaker 1: A lot of drinking on the show, and they try

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Speaker 1: to just do it and Moss, you know, just everybody

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Speaker 1: in one time, as opposed to piecemeal it. Now, you know,

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Speaker 1: it's intense to put a show on five nights a week,

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Speaker 1: you know, an hour show. It's like, you know, I

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Speaker 1: was a writer and performer on the Daily Show and

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Speaker 1: it was just you know, on this show, I perform mainly,

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Speaker 1: stand up on the show. It's like taking a final

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Speaker 1: every day to get the show on the air. You know,

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Speaker 1: it's just always there's never enough time, and there's breaking

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Speaker 1: news and so I love the show. You need love, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and we double tape on Thursdays and you have Friday

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Speaker 1: And then you know you're in the edsel of the theater,

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Speaker 1: which is you know where Elvis the Beatles. It's insane

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Speaker 1: and I'm standing on the same stage as they are,

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Speaker 1: right and then you know, of course I'm wiping my

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Speaker 1: the women are like, why are you throwing this at me,

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Speaker 1: and I'm like, hey, I'm Elvis, aren't I. And They're like, no,

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Speaker 1: You're just some Italian kid from Providence. Stop throwing your

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Speaker 1: sweaty handkerchiefs at me. No and so, and then you

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Speaker 1: look around and it's nineteen twenty two, I believe it

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Speaker 1: was built. Its beautiful dome theater, and it's just insane

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Speaker 1: how the history Jackie Gleeson was, you know, performed there.

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Speaker 1: It was really it's really incredible. You pinch yourself every

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Speaker 1: time you go in there. Just I pinch other people,

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Speaker 1: which apparently I've got a meeting at Human Resources in

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Speaker 1: Apparently can't do that more, not even on the arm buzz. Look,

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Speaker 1: I just I just pinched you. I guess it's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a lawsuit. There's no more. Yeah, you know, and

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Speaker 1: then you just meet, you know. I grew up in

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Speaker 1: meet you, and and I met, you know, Brian Cranston

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Speaker 1: tell you about that. Well, okay, so so yeah, so

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Speaker 1: it's been crazy, it's been great. What's an average day

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Speaker 1: the Daily show, which is right that mainly my writing,

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Speaker 1: God that you're funny that day, and some days you

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Speaker 1: are and some days you're not so funny. That's why

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Speaker 1: I go on stage and I go, hey, well, you know,

425
00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:52,560
Speaker 1: it's nice to be here at downtown Bay Route too.

426
00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:56,200
Speaker 1: I always wanted to follow a slashing thank you, thank

427
00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,160
Speaker 1: you for laughing. I thought that was a pretty good joke.

428
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,400
Speaker 1: I love it. But the guy who heard me got

429
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,359
Speaker 1: slashed and heard me. He didn't think it was that funny,

430
00:21:03,359 --> 00:21:05,720
Speaker 1: and he threw all these bloody napkins at me and

431
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: they stuck to my shirt. And that was That was

432
00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 1: sort of my you know, kind of introduction to comedy

433
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:16,240
Speaker 1: is like, welcome to the world of entertainment. You get

434
00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 1: your reaction on one of my favorite movies of all time,

435
00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:24,879
Speaker 1: King of Comedy. Hmm huh oh is that tell the story? Yeah?

436
00:21:24,960 --> 00:21:30,520
Speaker 1: It does, you know. And also like the the casting

437
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:32,960
Speaker 1: of Robert de Niro in that is like really interesting,

438
00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:34,879
Speaker 1: Like I would not have big thought of that, but

439
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 1: he's so good in it. It's brilliant. And Sandra Bernhard. Yeah,

440
00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,919
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, but I used to love watching

441
00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:43,800
Speaker 1: standup growing up, like I would love I beg my

442
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 1: parents to stay up to watch any comedian on late

443
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,520
Speaker 1: night television. You know, I do Rode Go into the School,

444
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,640
Speaker 1: and then I do Rodney jokes, and you know, people

445
00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,800
Speaker 1: knew it was Rodney. I wasn't pretending it was mine.

446
00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,480
Speaker 1: I wasn't planning to be a performance. Just loved jokes.

447
00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:02,720
Speaker 1: I loved watching anybody Jonathan Winter's brilliant improvisations and you know,

448
00:22:03,640 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 1: really the master that you know, I know Robert Williams

449
00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,960
Speaker 1: looked up to him, and I knew Robert Williams. We're

450
00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:11,399
Speaker 1: friends and he was a great guy. So it was

451
00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,399
Speaker 1: just I don't know, I just I guess it was

452
00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:14,840
Speaker 1: in me, but I didn't know it was there, and

453
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:16,639
Speaker 1: it kind of got bitten by this bug, you know.

454
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: But it's a community, right, Yeah, there is competition, yes,

455
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:25,359
Speaker 1: among comments. Yeah, some are good supportive, some aren't. Okay,

456
00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,320
Speaker 1: just like any business. Yeah, I remember I got my

457
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:29,679
Speaker 1: for a special and I said, I was so excited.

458
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 1: I was in one of the clubs and a comic

459
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: got seg I got my. I got especially goes, how'd

460
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 1: you get that? Like that's always said, and I just

461
00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,359
Speaker 1: wish the guy from downtown baybut two were there to

462
00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 1: stab him because I wanted to stab him, right right,

463
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: So there is you have to stay positive, you know,

464
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: because you're right here. But you know, a lot of

465
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,280
Speaker 1: great people. Lewis Black's a good friend, Brian Reagan a

466
00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: good friend. They're really great guys, you know, and supportive

467
00:22:57,400 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 1: and supportive and nice. But Leno too, at early phase,

468
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 1: as you had submitted your joke, gave you advice on

469
00:23:04,600 --> 00:23:08,240
Speaker 1: like getting to the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he basically said.

470
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,639
Speaker 1: He goes, I sent him a stack, you know, so

471
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,240
Speaker 1: I started to then once he said i'll pay you,

472
00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 1: just send stuff in. I would just send stuff in.

473
00:23:17,119 --> 00:23:18,199
Speaker 1: And then one day he goes, what do you do

474
00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: for a living anyway, I'm a lawyer, goes, I knew it,

475
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: and he goes, you're right like a lawyer. Because you're

476
00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 1: writing jokes, get to the punchline. You're not writing a

477
00:23:26,119 --> 00:23:29,840
Speaker 1: Magna carter, for God's sake. And they were really long,

478
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,280
Speaker 1: like they were long because you know, I was all

479
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:34,399
Speaker 1: about the detail, right, yeah, But by the time you

480
00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,359
Speaker 1: got to the joke, like the punchline if you had

481
00:23:37,440 --> 00:23:40,359
Speaker 1: gray hair, like you just aged like it was too much.

482
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 1: So it's a learning process. And then for yourself, you

483
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:45,240
Speaker 1: have to learn your own voice and what you want

484
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,480
Speaker 1: to say and talk about. But are you ever that's

485
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,639
Speaker 1: my Yeah, that's my limo. Yeah, it's all right, it's

486
00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 1: it's a hugo, but limos. Yeah. Are you ever happy

487
00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,400
Speaker 1: with what you've come up with? I mean you're cost yeah,

488
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 1: searche of you know, continually improving, But are you ever

489
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: happy and at peace with your voice? Yeah? I think

490
00:24:07,320 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 1: I like my voice. It's just always jokes that you're

491
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,200
Speaker 1: you want to keep, you know, improving on, or or

492
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: new jokes you want to introduce. And then then there'll

493
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 1: be some jokes where you know they're funny and you

494
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,159
Speaker 1: just can't seem to get it one hundred percent. Or

495
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:27,800
Speaker 1: there's like Lewis Black mentioned this, like there's some weird

496
00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: thing that happens. You do a joke for the first

497
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,080
Speaker 1: time and it does really well, and then it bombs

498
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: like for four times after that for some reason. And

499
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because the excitement of doing

500
00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,159
Speaker 1: it for the first time. I mean, the art of

501
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 1: good stand up is to making it feel like you're

502
00:24:40,280 --> 00:24:42,280
Speaker 1: talking about it for the first time, because if you

503
00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:45,120
Speaker 1: come off board with it, then they're gonna not come

504
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:47,280
Speaker 1: along on the ride with you. So you've got to

505
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,760
Speaker 1: you've got to really perform it like it's fresh and

506
00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 1: new and you haven't said it before and and so

507
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,919
Speaker 1: you know, at least for me, I think a lot

508
00:24:57,920 --> 00:25:00,400
Speaker 1: of comments you always introducing new stuff into your because

509
00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: you want to keep it fresh for you or people

510
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: that come back to see you, or you know. But

511
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: here's the thing that constantly amazes me about you and

512
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: other stand ups, how effortless you make it. And I

513
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 1: know it's not yeah, but that you grow into that

514
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,000
Speaker 1: when you If you saw me in the beginning, you'd

515
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,359
Speaker 1: be like, this guy should stay on Wall Street. He's like,

516
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: talk about paying your pants every you're stiff, you're not

517
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: confident you you really have to. It's the jokes are

518
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: just a vehicle to convey who you are. The words

519
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,840
Speaker 1: are important, but it's really important that they come to

520
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 1: know who you are as a person and understand your

521
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:42,959
Speaker 1: thinking and everything else. So if I'm not confident in

522
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 1: leading them, they're not going to come along. You know,

523
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,919
Speaker 1: the audience has all the power. You just can't let

524
00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,920
Speaker 1: them know it because they'll kind of crush you like

525
00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,280
Speaker 1: an ant. They smell it. Yep, they'll like, you know,

526
00:25:53,880 --> 00:25:56,119
Speaker 1: they'll not give you the love that you want if

527
00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's like if you're attracted to somebody

528
00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 1: and you try too hard, you start to you're like,

529
00:26:01,080 --> 00:26:03,960
Speaker 1: all right, you're a little too needy, you know, back off. Yeah.

530
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,360
Speaker 1: So it's this fine line between I don't really care

531
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:08,480
Speaker 1: what you think, but not with an audience, but not

532
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: to the point where you're just a complete jerk to

533
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,919
Speaker 1: them either, and then they're like, well, why am I

534
00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,879
Speaker 1: even hear the guys obnoxious? It's just you know, so

535
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: you go out and you just for me. The rule

536
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,679
Speaker 1: is if I got to care about it, I got

537
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 1: to find it interesting first for me and then funny

538
00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,680
Speaker 1: for me, and then you'll come along. So in your

539
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:30,000
Speaker 1: travels too, so I know you're all across the country

540
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: doing stand them. You will work the localized angle somehow, right,

541
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 1: Not really, no, because it's to me it's a little

542
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: bit of a crutch, and I think they should come

543
00:26:43,359 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 1: to see you for you, and not so that they

544
00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: can hear jokes about the stuff that they've already heard

545
00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: jokes about, right, like, oh, you must be from Pevity,

546
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, you know, it's too obvious. Yeah,

547
00:26:57,840 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just too simple. It's almost like a

548
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,199
Speaker 1: painter saying, Okay, I'm gonna paint a certain way for

549
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,639
Speaker 1: the Boston market and then I'm going to paint a

550
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,000
Speaker 1: different way for New Mexico. And you know, an artist painter,

551
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,000
Speaker 1: and I think you just want to be who you

552
00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:14,119
Speaker 1: are and take you know, I think somebody in Minnesota

553
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:19,679
Speaker 1: should have a flavor for a Northeast guy who you know,

554
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,679
Speaker 1: might be little I'm animated and got you know whatever,

555
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: get agitated and I you know whatever, versus somebody who

556
00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: might and experience that kind of person as opposed to

557
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: somebody who's exactly like maybe a more you know, some

558
00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,159
Speaker 1: times people in the Midwest can be a little mellow

559
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:37,760
Speaker 1: and like kind of more even tempered. Right, Well, they

560
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: see that all the time. They should experience me for

561
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: who I am. So I don't want to go into

562
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: a marketplace and try to be their friend by like

563
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: talking about I mean, look, if I'm in the area

564
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,440
Speaker 1: and I care about something like if I'm in the

565
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 1: Boston area, I'll talk about the Celtics or whatever because

566
00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:55,280
Speaker 1: I care about it. It's not like an angle to

567
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: kind of get to them, but you kind of just

568
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:00,159
Speaker 1: want to be who you are and bring who you

569
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: are to them so that they experienced somebody that maybe

570
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 1: they haven't experienced before, because that makes sense. It's authenticity, really, yeah,

571
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:13,240
Speaker 1: and and and you know, and I'm not going to

572
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:15,640
Speaker 1: say I'm not going to come up with anything unless

573
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:20,720
Speaker 1: there's something really unusual about their city. But even then,

574
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: I'm probably not going to come up with anything that

575
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 1: they haven't already heard from somebody else or said or

576
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: said to each other over a beer or whatever, right

577
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,919
Speaker 1: right right, because they've got they've got years and years

578
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:38,440
Speaker 1: and years in that town. So it just yeah, and

579
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 1: I'd rather spend the effort talking about things that like

580
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 1: matter to me, you know. You know, like right now,

581
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 1: I'm working on a joke about somebody I know gave

582
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 1: somebody a lottery ticket for their birthday, and I'm like,

583
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:55,440
Speaker 1: is there any gift that says more I really don't

584
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: care about you than a lottery ticket? I care about

585
00:28:57,600 --> 00:28:59,800
Speaker 1: you to the extent of three hundred and twenty seven million,

586
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:04,320
Speaker 1: one that you enjoy this. I mean, just just take

587
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:06,640
Speaker 1: the money and just throw it down the toilet like

588
00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:09,120
Speaker 1: it just is the most insant, Like it literally is saying,

589
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 1: I like you, but your two dollars worth nothing, and

590
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: I really don't want to see you enjoy this. So

591
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:17,560
Speaker 1: the odds are so stacked to gets you. So I

592
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 1: know I have something there, and I started to work

593
00:29:20,200 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: on it recently, and this last week the punchlinees out there.

594
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 1: Sometimes I just have to talk it out on stage, yep,

595
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,320
Speaker 1: and something will come in the moment. Sometimes it'll come

596
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: all at once, and sometimes it'll come if I sit

597
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,720
Speaker 1: in front of the computer with it. It just depends

598
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: on It's weird, you know when you said it, I

599
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,040
Speaker 1: you know what flashed through my head was all the

600
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,560
Speaker 1: people that have given me, you know, Christmas time or whatever,

601
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: a lottery tech. Yeah right, yeah, wipe those people off

602
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,240
Speaker 1: your list. If they're God, they're not. They're not your friends.

603
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 1: They don't care about it. They're jerks. They're really jerks.

604
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: So growing up in Providence, yeah, you had a mayor

605
00:29:57,480 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: there who has since passed away, buddy, I mean, did

606
00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: you ever encounter him in your time? He appointed my

607
00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: mother to the school committee in frov Yeah, and I

608
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: met him. Yeah, were they dating or something? No, because

609
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: he would have killed himself if he dated my mother. Now,

610
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 1: he was a character. He was this little very bright,

611
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: very charismatic. He could have run for national office, but

612
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:27,680
Speaker 1: he was a small time politician in some ways, little

613
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:31,880
Speaker 1: pudgy guy in Napoleonic Complex, wore a bad tupee, smoked

614
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: a cigarette, was a kind of a tough guy, but

615
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 1: very bright. I went to law school and everything, and

616
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: he just couldn't get out of his own way. He

617
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:41,600
Speaker 1: had his own line of marin arisauce. Yeah, he buzz,

618
00:30:41,640 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I can run the city. And

619
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 1: I got a little bowl and a's for you right there,

620
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: like he was just and then but you know, it's funny.

621
00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: He got arrested and kicked out of jail, out of

622
00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:58,720
Speaker 1: office because he took a guy to an abandoned warehouse

623
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 1: and slapped him around and put a cigarette out on him.

624
00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: Oh and he himself did it because the guy had

625
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: an affair with his wife. And then he got kicked

626
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: out of office and they and they re elected him

627
00:31:11,560 --> 00:31:16,360
Speaker 1: in a landslide when he was well exactly because Providence.

628
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: This is just typifies Providence. When it comes to crime.

629
00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: This old Italian woman on Federal Hill, which is an

630
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: Italian part of Providence, she goes, uh, they go, man,

631
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: why would you vote for him after he did what

632
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 1: he did to that guy? They the guy was messing

633
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: around with his wife. He got what he deserved. And

634
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: that's that's Providence in a nutshell. It's like, hey, a

635
00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:36,520
Speaker 1: little bit of crime is not bad, you know what

636
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: I mean? You know, and my cousin. I got a

637
00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,040
Speaker 1: cousin that was running numbers for a long time and

638
00:31:43,040 --> 00:31:44,719
Speaker 1: then he would you know, it was just you know,

639
00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: running numbers and stand in front of this so yeah,

640
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: like it was like sopranos. He stand in front of

641
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,440
Speaker 1: the street corner like tight pants, his legs are always moving,

642
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: like he's got a live snake in his pants, like

643
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,200
Speaker 1: how you doing? How you doing? And hess like always

644
00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 1: like really like you know, loud clothes and hair. And

645
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 1: he was selling stuff at one time out of the

646
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: trunk of his car. At one point he was selling suits,

647
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,600
Speaker 1: ratchets and Carl alarms. Oh my god, but there were

648
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: Carl alarms that he stole out of other people's cars.

649
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 1: And he had no sense of the irony that like

650
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:17,280
Speaker 1: I was like, Bob, you know, the fact you stole

651
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: this means it's not a very good alarm, because what

652
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: are you talking about? It just doesn't have the box

653
00:32:20,400 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: here take it. It's twenty five bucks. So it's just

654
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: like it's there's a charm to it. That's like, you

655
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean, I love Providence. Yeah, it's just

656
00:32:28,640 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: like a world unto itself. It really is. And it's like,

657
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 1: and I you know, my mom's still there, cycle back

658
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: up and still see some of the same people kind

659
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: of hanging around, you know, hanging around. It shakes and yeah,

660
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,040
Speaker 1: I know another guy like he was he said to

661
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: my mother one time. He goes, hey, he goes, He goes,

662
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: Miss Mercuria. I mean, you're a business now, I'm in

663
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: the furniture business. She goes, we do you know about

664
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 1: the furniture. He goes, well, you know, I'm selling mattresses.

665
00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,160
Speaker 1: How do you get your hands on mattresses? You have

666
00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: to have an account with the mattress. He goes, non account,

667
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 1: and he goes, I go the I go to the dump.

668
00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:04,239
Speaker 1: You got a bunch of mattresses. I pick him up.

669
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:06,720
Speaker 1: I pay like nothing for the mattress. I got a

670
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: Chinese guy. He recovers him for like one hundred bucks.

671
00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:11,920
Speaker 1: I sell him for like six hundred bucks, which is

672
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,400
Speaker 1: a complete violation of hellcre you know what's in the hey.

673
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: You know, everybody wins. And my mother's like, just get

674
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 1: out of my store because you want something. No, I

675
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: don't want your bug ridden mattresses from the dump in

676
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:27,120
Speaker 1: my store. So yeah, so it's like, oh my god. Yeah,

677
00:33:27,160 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 1: it's it's just a colossal place that just opens up. Okay,

678
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,600
Speaker 1: thank you, uh and uh oh yeah, we have a

679
00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:38,640
Speaker 1: right yeah, and I basically yeah, I know, it's right

680
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: up to you. He's got an agenda, he did his shopping,

681
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,200
Speaker 1: and he has flyers. He's too. Two birds at one stone. Oh,

682
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:47,800
Speaker 1: it's amazing. Yeah, everybody's got a hustle exactly. Yeah. So

683
00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: talk about your podcast. Yeah, yeah, I had I liked

684
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 1: doing one on one. You know, I grew up listening

685
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: to like my mom would always listen to the Larry

686
00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:00,760
Speaker 1: King and you know David Suskin. You know, it's an

687
00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 1: old but really great interviewer in the New York area.

688
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: I always just loved one on one long form because

689
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:09,600
Speaker 1: you know, late night shows there's not a lot of

690
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,640
Speaker 1: time people come on, they have six seven minutes. They

691
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: got to promote their product or whatever, they're doing, their movie, whatever,

692
00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:17,080
Speaker 1: And I just so, I said, I want to do

693
00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: a podcast. And it's the law that you have a podcast.

694
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: Everybody has to have one now, it's a congressional you know, mandate,

695
00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 1: especially great comic. So I was like, you know, I

696
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,279
Speaker 1: don't want to necessarily be a stand up have to

697
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: be a stand up light. So I just wanted to

698
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: do one on one long form interviews. And he started

699
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:37,880
Speaker 1: getting really great guests. You know, Colbert's done it, Kevin Costner,

700
00:34:38,520 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 1: Brian Kranzton Kiris, Sedgwick, Neil deGrasse, Tyson and I have

701
00:34:43,120 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: just a broad array of interest, so I just whoever

702
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:49,839
Speaker 1: I can get, And then I got Paul McCartney. I'm

703
00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:52,759
Speaker 1: a podcast and it was all I had. And I

704
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,839
Speaker 1: love to talk to people about their process and how

705
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,680
Speaker 1: they do what they do. And I met him. I

706
00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 1: met McCartney at the Colbert Rapport. I was working at

707
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:02,320
Speaker 1: the time, and he just performed, was about to perform,

708
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: and he was hanging out in the hallway outside the

709
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: studio and he was just leaning against the wall, kind

710
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: of looking up at the ceiling, chewing gum like he

711
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 1: was waiting for a bus all and I just went

712
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: up to him and I go, I just want to

713
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: say well. First. When I saw him, my whole world

714
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: stop because you round the corner you don't expect to

715
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: see Paul McCartney, especially alone without an entourage and security,

716
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: and my whole world's like slogan and I'm like, oh

717
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: my god, it's Paul McCartney. Should I like, a whole

718
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,800
Speaker 1: world just completely stops. And then I'm like, should I

719
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:34,360
Speaker 1: say hi? Should I not say hi? And then I'm like,

720
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 1: you know what, He's alone in a hallway without security.

721
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: He's like a gazelle on the SERENGETI planes and I'm

722
00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: a line and I'm gonna pounce. So I went up

723
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: and I go, just want to say hi, honored to

724
00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:46,880
Speaker 1: meet you and be in the same building with you,

725
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,879
Speaker 1: and it's like to see your show tonight. He goes, oh, thanks,

726
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:50,200
Speaker 1: and I walk away and he does not come back.

727
00:35:50,200 --> 00:35:52,520
Speaker 1: What's your name? He goes, Paul. He goes, oh, Paul,

728
00:35:52,520 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: that's a good name. I'm like, all right, I'll do

729
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: the jokes, buddy, back off with ye. You just make

730
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:01,120
Speaker 1: all your royalties on those silly love songs. Now he goes,

731
00:36:01,160 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 1: what do you do? I got him stand up and

732
00:36:02,520 --> 00:36:04,719
Speaker 1: I work on the show and act him out. He goes, oh, yeah,

733
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 1: I guess I love standing up and I knew Richard

734
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:08,279
Speaker 1: Pryor I when I start talking, he guess you got

735
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:09,680
Speaker 1: a kid. Yeah, I got a kid. Yeah it's hard

736
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:11,759
Speaker 1: when you're going on tour. Go. Yeah it is. I go,

737
00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:13,680
Speaker 1: but I'm thinking your touring is a little different than

738
00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: my touring. And five ten minutes go why we're just

739
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 1: talking like regular people like you and I that's it.

740
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: But as I'm talking to him, I'm getting closer and

741
00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 1: closer to his face because he's so iconic. I'm checking

742
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: him out. I'm checking like I was so close to

743
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 1: the point where he starts leaning backwards, Like I was

744
00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:33,160
Speaker 1: so close. I was like those chimps in the National

745
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 1: Geographic Channel where they clean ticks off their mates, Like

746
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: I could have flees off his eyebrows. I was like

747
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:40,080
Speaker 1: that close. And then I'm like, I'm ready leave this

748
00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:42,399
Speaker 1: guy alone, and I go into the bathroom. I call

749
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 1: my wife. I'm hyperventilating. I'm like, you're not gonna believe

750
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: I just talked to Paul McCartney. Oh my god. And

751
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: then and then I this, I say this out loud,

752
00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: you know what, on the phone to my wife. I go,

753
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,479
Speaker 1: Paul McCartney should do my podcast. I should talk about

754
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,719
Speaker 1: how he makes music. That's that I So I go

755
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,759
Speaker 1: and I knocked on the door. I was dressing room,

756
00:37:00,760 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 1: and I said, I know this is crazy, but would

757
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: you do my podcast? And he goes, I just want

758
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,360
Speaker 1: to talk about music, that's all. He goes, yeah, sure,

759
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Just like that. That's it. And now

760
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: you know, like if there was that anybody listening to

761
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: me relate to this, like that that hot girl or

762
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,560
Speaker 1: hot guy. You want to ask him out if they

763
00:37:19,560 --> 00:37:22,000
Speaker 1: would way above your pay grade unit. They're never going

764
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: to say yes, but you say, you know what, I'm

765
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 1: going to ask him out. Anyway they'll say no, but

766
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,720
Speaker 1: at least I know I asked him out and instead

767
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: they say yes. And you don't have a plan. That

768
00:37:31,160 --> 00:37:33,400
Speaker 1: was me because he goes, yeah, sure, how do we

769
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: do it? And I got completely flustered and I literally

770
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 1: I'm not doing this to be funny. This is how

771
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:40,440
Speaker 1: I sound that anyway, he goes, how do we do it?

772
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: I was like ah, and I start like rubbing my

773
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:49,640
Speaker 1: thigh like rain man like, and my eyes are dark,

774
00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 1: back and forth and I'm sweating, and I go, I'll

775
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,239
Speaker 1: come to London. And he goes, we're in the room

776
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 1: New York together. Why would you come to London? And

777
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,319
Speaker 1: then I we got to know and then he goes

778
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,280
Speaker 1: it easy to do. And I actually said to Paul McCartney,

779
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's really easy. I don't want to be

780
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: a body. I know you're really busy. You could do

781
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 1: it on your phone naked from your toilet. I'm like,

782
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 1: oh my god, I really said that, right right, I'm like,

783
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: I got it. I go look up, I'm gonna just

784
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 1: leave you and I'll go just find your assistant. And

785
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: he goes, no, no, you and I'll do it. I go,

786
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 1: what do you mean? He goes, you, and I'll just

787
00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,040
Speaker 1: exchange numbers because they're going to make it way too complicated.

788
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:23,880
Speaker 1: And I don't you know, I want to give you

789
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,439
Speaker 1: a chance to talk to me the way you want

790
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:30,720
Speaker 1: to talk to me. And so we're exchanging phone numbers.

791
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:32,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, And just like Leno, I thought I

792
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 1: got a blow off, right, So he does the Colbert

793
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Speaker 1: Show perform Report Performance and now I was working the

794
00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: Daily Show at the time, so I'm rushing to get

795
00:38:42,360 --> 00:38:45,240
Speaker 1: to that taping and I'm late, and my phone rings

796
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,239
Speaker 1: while I'm trying to get out of the studio at

797
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 1: the Colbert Report to get to the Daily Show, and

798
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:50,160
Speaker 1: I don't have time to pick it up. I'm like,

799
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,279
Speaker 1: I don't know who this is. I'd probably I'm a telemarketer,

800
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: and I let it ring the voicemail and this is

801
00:38:55,120 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: the message on my phone where we get back a podcast.

802
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: I got you. Oh my god, that is brilliant. And

803
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,480
Speaker 1: I called him back and I was saying, why are

804
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: you bothering me? Jesus, that is brilliant, and then he

805
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,000
Speaker 1: and he did it. Awesome. Yeah he did. Wow. So

806
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: let's wind out. You got some shows. Let's tell us

807
00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:33,399
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Speaker 1: And then May June second to the fourth, I'm going

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Speaker 1: now with COVID dying down, I'm back out on the road.

820
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Speaker 1: And uh oh, you go to my website, it's Paul

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Speaker 1: If you put two. There's an Australian actor who was

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Speaker 1: in Strictly Ballroom and that's not me. I had to

824
00:40:23,239 --> 00:40:24,840
Speaker 1: change the spelling of my name because he got in

825
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,680
Speaker 1: the Actor's Union before I did. Well the heck with help, Yeah,

826
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Speaker 1: and he had you know, there was a head and

827
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828
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829
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830
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831
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833
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835
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Speaker 1: I have to tell you the great joys for me

836
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: of doing this Taking a Walk series is gives me

837
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:58,480
Speaker 1: something to do. First of all, Yeah, but secondly it's

838
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: reconnecting with old friends. But third or maybe it should

839
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Speaker 1: having me. Thank you. Taking a Walk with Buzznight is

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