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Speaker 1: Okay, what's going on here? JB for Front Office Unfiltered.

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Speaker 1: We've got the top three on the athletic big Board

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Speaker 1: that has not been signed yet. Ken Rosenthal or colleague

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Speaker 1: over there pointed out in here six of the top

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Speaker 1: nine not signed yet. I believe it's twenty of the

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Speaker 1: top fifty. We're about a month away from an early

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Speaker 1: spring training that's starting for the World Baseball Classic.

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Speaker 2: What's going to happen here?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So one thing we have to keep in mind

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Speaker 3: is when Juan Soto got seven hundred and sixty five

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Speaker 3: million from the Mets a year ago and Vladimir Guerrero

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Speaker 3: got five hundred million from the Blue Jays, there was

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Speaker 3: a lot of thought that those contracts would pull everybody up,

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Speaker 3: and what we've kind of found out is that's not

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Speaker 3: the case. They're being treated as an aberration, as one off.

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Speaker 3: So I think Kyle Tucker's representatives, led by Casey Close,

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Speaker 3: we're looking for ten to twelve years between four hundred

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Speaker 3: and five million based on the Guerrero signing, and I

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Speaker 3: think because of the injury, because of other factors, that

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Speaker 3: market is never developed or hasn't as of yet. With

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Speaker 3: Kyle Tucker, the other thing that's happened to Kyle Tucker

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Speaker 3: is the New York teams are not in on him.

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Speaker 3: You know, Yankees are chasing Bellinger. If they don't get Bellinger,

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Speaker 3: they're not going to pivot to Tucker. They don't believe that,

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Speaker 3: you know, how well handle New York. I've heard the

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Speaker 3: same thing about the Mets view of Kyle Tucker as well.

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Speaker 3: That takes two big markets out, so you know what

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Speaker 3: some of these agents are looking at.

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Speaker 2: You know, we had the Schwarber.

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Speaker 3: Sign the Alonso signing, but Bregman's not getting the long term.

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Speaker 2: Offer yet that he's looking for.

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Speaker 3: There are teams concerned abo Bishett in terms of you know,

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Speaker 3: not having the bat speed or the barrel percentage, some

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Speaker 3: of the analytics in terms of how he'll age even

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Speaker 3: though he's only twenty seven years old. So you have

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Speaker 3: a lot of different evaluation processes going on. You have

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Speaker 3: a lot of big contracts on the board. For example,

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Speaker 3: Dylan SE's got two hundred million from Toronto. That's what

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Speaker 3: fran Bervaldez was expecting. Franfra hasn't gotten that. Rangers Sworez.

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Speaker 3: You know, look, I think the Baltimorials are going to

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Speaker 3: probably end up signing him. They're working hard to do it,

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Speaker 3: but they're asking for a lot because he only has

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Speaker 3: seven hundred and sixty eight innings on his odometer arm.

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Speaker 3: He's very young, right in his twenties. Zach Gallen's coming

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Speaker 3: off the worst year of his career. What's the reason

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Speaker 3: What is the solution there? So there's a lot of

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Speaker 3: issues with each of these guys, but I have no

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Speaker 3: problem with this dripping into January.

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Speaker 2: Like the Foul.

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Speaker 3: Territory ratings are going to continue to go up because

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Speaker 3: we have all these free agents out there, We're going

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Speaker 3: to have a month of great signings that are going

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Speaker 3: to be covered here as well as anybody in the sport.

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Speaker 2: So for all of us, this is great that it's

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Speaker 4: I agree, Jim. I just don't want to have producer

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Speaker 4: Lady makes them stupid. Where will Bo go? Or where

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Speaker 4: will Kyle go? You know front end where she has

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Speaker 4: the music that she loves to play, and they know

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Speaker 4: annoys the crap out of me. So I'm happy that

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Speaker 4: the signings drag on, right because the signings dragging on

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Speaker 4: are good because people are still talking baseball even though

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Speaker 4: it's NFL playoffs and NBA is in the middle of

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Speaker 4: the season in NHL and all this stuff is going on,

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Speaker 4: people are still talking about baseball and all these cities.

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Speaker 5: It is a good thing.

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Speaker 4: So I am tired of people saying, oh, we should

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Speaker 4: January first, there should be a signing deadline. Okay, let's

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Speaker 4: say January first is the signing deadline. And then one

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Speaker 4: of your guy your pitchers is thrown in the offseason,

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Speaker 4: can't go signing because the signings have already happened. Like,

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Speaker 4: I'm against that. But what I want to know is

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Speaker 4: think everyone kind of thinks he's gonna go back to

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Speaker 4: the to the Red Sox. But Cody Bellinger has been

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, I think the Yankees have put a

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Speaker 3: because they feel their lineup is too left handed. They'd

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Speaker 3: But Belly is a very important part of that team.

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Speaker 3: I don't think their soul on Jason Dominguez or Spencer

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Speaker 3: I think they would really like to have Belly. That

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Speaker 3: be honest, there could be a mystery team on Bellinger,

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Speaker 3: but he might not want to go there. You know,

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Speaker 3: I've heard whispers about the Pittsburgh Pirates, who have had

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Speaker 3: a very good offseason improving their offense. Bellinger would be

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Speaker 3: a huge jump for them. I'm not hearing reunion with

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Speaker 3: haven't heard a lot after that. But again, the Bores

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Speaker 3: I don't think it's a slam Donkey goes back to Boston.

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Speaker 3: like everybody could have a similar offer on the table,

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Speaker 3: but only takes one owner, one president, one GM to

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Speaker 3: get out of a bed a certain way and say,

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Speaker 3: you know, what I'm going to do an extra year,

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Speaker 3: an extra thirty million, and I'm going to get the

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Speaker 2: That's all.

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Speaker 3: It takes sometime. So again, I don't think anything's a

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Speaker 5: One of the things I always knows about the catching market.

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Speaker 5: I heard to laugh and I should have reacted better.

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Speaker 5: But what is JT real Mito's actual market? And does

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Speaker 5: it really matter? Because isn't he just going to go

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Speaker 5: then the Middletons are going to say, yes, we still

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so.

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Speaker 3: It's hard to you guys know, it's hard to get

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Speaker 3: when you know it's going to be cut. And when

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Speaker 3: you're thirty five years old and the numbers say you're

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Speaker 2: You're just not going to get paid at that level.

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Speaker 3: So you're still trying to get respectable contract, and so

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Speaker 3: is a very important person on that team, with that

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Speaker 3: the manager. So you know, I think JT. But it's business,

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Speaker 3: worth thirty six million, but the extra million or two,

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Speaker 3: So I don't know what the other options are in

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Speaker 4: more million for the contracts he's already signed. If he's

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Speaker 4: Kyle Schwarburn, Bryce Harbor. I get it, Jim. I want

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Speaker 4: to know about the Pirates. Okay, the Pirates have signed O'Hearn,

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Speaker 4: have the Pirates all of a sudden found this free

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Speaker 4: is it because there's a collective bargaining session coming up

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Speaker 4: the Pirates can't spend money. We don't need a cap.

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Speaker 4: They just have to do it at the right time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's both.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think the reality is set in that

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Speaker 3: you're not gonna have Paul Skeens much longer, and if

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Speaker 3: I think they believe, and they should, that they have

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Speaker 3: And I think they're accurate. If Jared Jones comes back

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Speaker 3: got to get Skiing some runs. We can't keep watching

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Speaker 3: the Pirates score one run, no runs, or two runs

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Speaker 3: clamoring has been so loud for several years, but they

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Speaker 3: see that, Look, if they just get a mediocre offense,

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Speaker 3: they've got a chance to win more than they lose

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Speaker 3: I think they've accomplished that. And I think we should

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Speaker 3: credit Bob Nutting and Ben Charrington for trying this offseason.

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Speaker 3: The trade for Brandon Lole with thirty one home runs

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Speaker 3: Your last issue, I believe one hundred percent has a

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Speaker 2: And so one of the ways you have to fix it.

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Speaker 3: Make Miami in Pittsburgh, and you got to make these

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Speaker 4: Okay, you can talk about the Red Sox and Yankees

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Speaker 3: Yes, the fans have won was heard and by the way,

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Speaker 3: And look, it's not like the Pirates have gone out

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Speaker 3: and let's buy Primati Brothers sandwich is that don't taste

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Speaker 2: Let's just do it.

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Speaker 5: Wow, shots across the river, I mean they always playing

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Speaker 3: Okay, I want to start on the offensive side with

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they got a chance.

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Speaker 4: That's a lot of ifs, so jim a lot of Like,

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Speaker 4: Did you see the game last night where the priest

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Speaker 3: Or yeah they forgot, But the Pirates should bring the

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Speaker 3: I mean without a doubt. And by the way, I

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Speaker 2: I love the mon on Gehiela in the Ohio. Look,

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Speaker 3: I'm just talking real and I'm glad that they're doing

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: In terms of Mike Tomlin never had a losing record

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Speaker 3: I don't understand why they didn't run one more play

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Speaker 2: I thought it was foolish. But congrats to the Steelers.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and he forgot the USC the USC thing, so

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Speaker 3: USC great two transfers today, Devin Bryant the linebacker, John

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