Speaker 1: The second date of day. Sometimes with a bad first date,
Speaker 1: there's one moment that you can look back on and
Speaker 1: say that was it, That was where I messed everything up? Yeah? Yeah,
Speaker 1: For me, each date has about fourteen of those. Is
Speaker 1: it when I did the full reenactment of the movie
Speaker 1: Garden State?
Speaker 2: Was that it's you?
Speaker 1: Or was it when my zipper got caught in the
Speaker 1: sushi conveyor belt?
Speaker 3: How?
Speaker 4: I still don't for some reason, why were.
Speaker 1: You that close to the you know?
Speaker 2: He too much?
Speaker 5: Well?
Speaker 1: One of our listeners says that she knows that she
Speaker 1: made a huge mistake in one moment, and she's regretting
Speaker 1: it today. That's why she's asking for our help. Her
Speaker 1: name's Jessica. Jessica. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Hey guys, Jessica.
Speaker 2: Before you let us know, I just want to say,
Speaker 2: sometimes it's good to only have one giant bad thing
Speaker 2: go wrong, because at least you can pinpoint what went wrong.
Speaker 1: Yeah, did you have a sushi conveyor belt incident too?
Speaker 3: There was no sushie involved.
Speaker 1: Good tragedy avoided. What what what happened with this guy?
Speaker 1: What's his name?
Speaker 3: So I went out with Vince?
Speaker 6: Vince?
Speaker 5: Okay?
Speaker 4: And how do you know, Vince, how'd you guys meet?
Speaker 3: It was online, so it was kind of, you know,
Speaker 3: like a first sort of blind date online and it
Speaker 3: was good. It was it was it was nice. We
Speaker 3: had a really good vibe and all.
Speaker 1: Right, well we'll play a song, we'll come back. We
Speaker 1: should hear more about it, huh.
Speaker 4: I mean were you were you shocked that it was
Speaker 4: going that well?
Speaker 3: I totally was. I you know, I had kind of
Speaker 3: low expectations, but I don't know. He was just it
Speaker 3: was humble and cool and fun and we're having a
Speaker 3: good time. The problem is, so because I have these
Speaker 3: low expectations, I kind of sort of accidentally double booked
Speaker 3: myself that night.
Speaker 4: Oh wait, like with another date or with a party
Speaker 4: or something.
Speaker 3: No, it was another date.
Speaker 4: Oh girl like that, you have options? Why to the
Speaker 4: same night.
Speaker 3: I just figured we'd we'd eat and we're like, okay, thanks,
Speaker 3: that was fine by and then that would be it.
Speaker 3: Because that's kind of been my experience.
Speaker 1: Was Vince aware that you had two dates going on
Speaker 1: that night?
Speaker 5: He was not?
Speaker 3: Oka, he was not, And you know, looking back, I
Speaker 3: mean that's the moment like I should have canceled, oh,
Speaker 3: because I lost track of time. And when I realized
Speaker 3: I was like twenty minutes away from the second date,
Speaker 3: and I was like, oh shoot, so I had to
Speaker 3: wrap things up really fast. He was like, oh, we're done,
Speaker 3: and I was like, yeah, I'm so sorry. I gotta go,
Speaker 3: and I then vote him some money for the like
Speaker 3: half a bill, you know, because I didn't want it to
Speaker 3: be like this good bye.
Speaker 4: What did you actually leave before the bill came?
Speaker 3: Well, like it had just gotten there.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but like you didn't let him like walk you
Speaker 6: out to your car or anything like that.
Speaker 3: No, I had to run.
Speaker 2: Oh man, oh.
Speaker 1: Yeah, just as a guy having to sit there and
Speaker 1: watch your date like bolt on you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, before you even finished like totally paying the bill
Speaker 6: and then they veno you, which is feels it like
Speaker 6: business trans actioning.
Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. And I think I mean, I think you
Speaker 3: could tell that something was going on because he was
Speaker 3: asking me, are you okay? Like did I did I
Speaker 3: do something? Or you know, when I was trying to
Speaker 3: tell no, no, it's not you, You're great, this is good.
Speaker 3: I just coming personal came up. I gotta I gotta run. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I feel like I would almost prefer a girl to
Speaker 1: sneak out on me yeah, rather than like collect herself
Speaker 1: frantically be like okay, sorry, I gotta go by No,
Speaker 1: you just reschedule.
Speaker 2: You should have been honest and you said, look, I
Speaker 2: have something going on. I want to give you my
Speaker 2: full attention. You know, it's like a job interview. You
Speaker 2: don't want the person interviewing and being.
Speaker 1: Like, Okay, just tell me about yourself real quick. I
Speaker 1: gotta go. I gotta go ya. Based on your profile
Speaker 1: picture and your interests, I had very very low expectations
Speaker 1: into this. I never ever thought this was going to
Speaker 1: go like this. But yeah, sorry bye.
Speaker 6: And the thing is, I'm guessing the second date went
Speaker 6: terribly because we're not calling the second date for a
Speaker 6: second date update, we're calling the first dude.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what happened with guy number two?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Guy number two was a no show?
Speaker 6: It I bet you, I bet you felt I would
Speaker 6: feel so foolish at that point.
Speaker 3: Oh I did. I waited an hour at the bar
Speaker 3: for this guy, and I just felt like it was big,
Speaker 3: it's full. And so after my hour of waiting, I
Speaker 3: tested Vince and I was like, hey, so I cleared
Speaker 3: that up. If you're still out, I'd love to hang
Speaker 3: out some more kind of try to smooth it over,
Speaker 3: and he texted me back lol.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah he is, and that's all you guys
Speaker 6: have talked since.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I tried texting him one other time and he didn't respond,
Speaker 3: so I was like, Okay, I'm gonna leave it alone.
Speaker 3: I don't want to pesture him, but I'm feeling really
Speaker 3: really bad about it, and I you know, I'm hoping
Speaker 3: it's something that I could kind of come back from.
Speaker 2: I don't know. If you tell him the truth, it
Speaker 2: makes you sound bad, like, hey, I'm only calling you
Speaker 2: back because this guy stood me up or I would
Speaker 2: have I beg you.
Speaker 6: But you can explain it as like you made a mistake.
Speaker 6: He's dating, like he gets it, like it's hard, it's
Speaker 6: hard to make decisions. It always feels like the more
Speaker 6: you date, the more options you'll have or something. I
Speaker 6: don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't want to date to leave me for another date.
Speaker 4: I mean nobody would. Nobody would. But do we have
Speaker 4: to tell him that part?
Speaker 2: No, that's why we don't.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I think we're going to go in planning
Speaker 1: to not tell him yes, but you know what, if
Speaker 1: it slips out, then it slips out. You do this.
Speaker 4: Every once in a while. Somebody wants what they can't have.
Speaker 6: Yeah, and if he thinks that she's wanted by a
Speaker 6: lot of other people, that's not necessarily to play some games.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should say it wasn't just one extra date.
Speaker 1: Maybe it was twenty extra dates. And the other guys
Speaker 1: could match up to Vince. Right, Convince was better than
Speaker 1: all of them. We're going to play a song, we'll
Speaker 1: come back, we'll call Vince and we'll try and get
Speaker 1: your second date. Update. Okay, Jessica, all right, all right,
Speaker 1: hold on.
Speaker 5: Update.
Speaker 1: The saying is nice guys finished last. Yeah, but that's
Speaker 1: not always true. Sometimes they don't even get to finish
Speaker 1: dinner before their date ducks out on you for a
Speaker 1: hotter guy.
Speaker 4: Yeah, go out.
Speaker 1: Sorry for the low blow there, Jessica, but that is
Speaker 1: what she did to a great dude that she was
Speaker 1: with named Vince. She had to leave early to go
Speaker 1: meet up with another guy, and what happened? Other guy
Speaker 1: no showed.
Speaker 4: Yeah, anything is Jeffrey. If you liked Vince Moore, you
Speaker 4: would have booked his date second.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: My initial like, you wouldn't have put him first.
Speaker 1: It ended the night, no matter what. But she went
Speaker 1: in with those low expectations. So, Jessica, I want you
Speaker 1: to know we are going to try our very best here,
Speaker 1: but even though we're enjoying ourselves, we have another phone
Speaker 1: call book with a possibly better hotter listener in ten minutes,
Speaker 1: So we're gonna trying to make this quick.
Speaker 3: Okay, all right, but really, really please if we can
Speaker 3: not tell him about the other date.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, so why did you leave? Then? I mean
Speaker 4: we're gonna have to tell something.
Speaker 3: Family emergency, right, like, admit, it's a family emergency and
Speaker 3: we just met. He doesn't have to know those details.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, well.
Speaker 2: What what's the detail? Grandpa's sick?
Speaker 4: Like she said, he didn't have to know the details.
Speaker 4: He doesn't need What if he asks.
Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, family emergency is everyone?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 2: What do we say?
Speaker 4: Your business? Okay, talk about my family? Yeah?
Speaker 1: All right, all right, we'll.
Speaker 6: Vague he's gonna Jessica.
Speaker 5: All right, we're ready.
Speaker 1: We're gonna dial Vince's phone number, try and get your
Speaker 1: second date update. Here we go.
Speaker 5: Hello, Hey is this Vince? This is him, this Evince.
Speaker 1: My name is Jeff from a morning radio show called
Speaker 1: Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning. What's up, KNA was
Speaker 1: awkward silence, I freaked out. Okay, we're all here.
Speaker 5: What's going on, gred.
Speaker 1: It's a segment, Yep, it is an awkward segment that
Speaker 1: we do. It's called a second Date Update. We're calling
Speaker 1: on behalf of one of our listeners who went out
Speaker 1: on a date with you.
Speaker 5: Her name's Jessicah, yeah, Jessica. Okay, hmm.
Speaker 4: She really liked you, really? Yeah.
Speaker 1: I know, it doesn't seem like she liked you because
Speaker 1: she left the date in such a hurry, but that's
Speaker 1: just one of the things that she does when she
Speaker 1: really likes the guy. She she gets nervous and panics.
Speaker 4: And leaves freaked out.
Speaker 1: It's a problem.
Speaker 5: Oh so, so she told you guys what happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she gave us a little recap of it.
Speaker 5: And she and she actually felt bad about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, she's she didn't want to have
Speaker 1: to leave, but she didn't really have a choice.
Speaker 2: Family emergency.
Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, I don't know. I just kind of doubt
Speaker 5: that's really the case.
Speaker 6: I mean, she texted you later, she said, just to
Speaker 6: let you know that she was like still interested.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she did text me later she wanted
Speaker 5: to like me back.
Speaker 1: Upright, and we heard you texted back kind of snarky,
Speaker 1: just lol.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I said that because she really seemed
Speaker 5: like she had better things to do and she had
Speaker 5: somewhere else more important to be. Like, we were having
Speaker 5: a great time, we were eating, and she pretty much
Speaker 5: ended it in the middle of us eating and left
Speaker 5: the front.
Speaker 1: But that's not really fair to her because it could
Speaker 1: have been something that was totally out of her control.
Speaker 5: Oh really, So, I mean, you guys talked to her,
Speaker 5: So what did she say was out of her control?
Speaker 6: She she know, she made a commitment that she had
Speaker 6: to follow through on.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, yeah, this sounds really general and vague, but yeah,
Speaker 5: do you.
Speaker 1: Have a problem with that.
Speaker 4: Vague and aggressive?
Speaker 5: I don't know, I just mean it's it's kind of
Speaker 5: hard to believe considering the way that it sort of ended. Like,
Speaker 5: I don't know, I just.
Speaker 4: Feel like, so you say that you think she's lying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean, this is the thing, like, and
Speaker 5: you know, I'll be completely honest with you guys, but
Speaker 5: I've had some trust issues from the past and everything.
Speaker 5: When we were talking. Seemed pretty good the way that
Speaker 5: everything sounded, and she seemed pretty straightforward, but my trust
Speaker 5: issues kind of came into play, and I just wanted
Speaker 5: to sort of see like where her head was at.
Speaker 5: So I actually had one of my closest friends, who
Speaker 5: is you know, he's basically a model when he is
Speaker 5: a model and looks, you know, really good looking dude,
Speaker 5: and so he actually matched with her, and I had
Speaker 5: asked him, like, you know, why don't you schedule sort
Speaker 5: of like a date for the same day.
Speaker 1: WHOA.
Speaker 5: I know this is crazy, and you know, I was
Speaker 5: like putting it all out there, but this is kind
Speaker 5: of why I feel so just really disappointed.
Speaker 1: Hold on, you already knew about the other date that
Speaker 1: she had.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so he reached out and she already had a
Speaker 5: date scheduled with me.
Speaker 6: Yeah, kid, dude, you set a trap for her.
Speaker 5: Well, I didn't know that, to be honest, she would
Speaker 5: be that thirsty to hop on it.
Speaker 1: Come on, if you had.
Speaker 6: A model that matched with you and wanted to go
Speaker 6: out the same night, you're not telling me that you
Speaker 6: wouldn't book her.
Speaker 5: Still, I actually would have just canceled the other date
Speaker 5: and gone out with the models.
Speaker 4: Are you two dates you wouldn't want.
Speaker 5: To like, yeah, because then it kind of just felt
Speaker 5: like a pity date.
Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, I don't like.
Speaker 4: This, that's low man.
Speaker 6: I just think that you're missing an opportunity, like if
Speaker 6: you could give her some grace here, like you may
Speaker 6: actually find somebody who you really connect with.
Speaker 5: And like, the reason why I put the test out
Speaker 5: there was because she put on her profile, she's tired
Speaker 5: of the game, she's looking for something really meaningful, and
Speaker 5: I felt like we were aligning really well. I did,
Speaker 5: and that was why I was like before I even
Speaker 5: how serious are you? Or are you just another girl
Speaker 5: who puts it on her profile but really just wants.
Speaker 1: To you know, I feel like maybe there is some
Speaker 1: truth to what she's saying there, because she clearly wants
Speaker 1: to connect with you because she's actually on the other
Speaker 1: line listening this entire time.
Speaker 4: That doesn't help trust is shoes.
Speaker 1: She wants to talk to you right now.
Speaker 5: Man, Wait, she's listening to this whole thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, don't you trust her?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 1: She's right there? Jessica, Hi, awkward?
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, how's it going, Jessica.
Speaker 3: Uh, not great. I feel really bad that I couldn't
Speaker 3: figure out like what I needed to do in that
Speaker 3: moment and make a better choice. But I feel really
Speaker 3: bad for you and those trust issues and the mind games,
Speaker 3: and that's wow, that's a lot.
Speaker 1: There's so much on both sides.
Speaker 2: Like I think you both just hang up before we
Speaker 2: even get into this.
Speaker 1: I'm just too much.
Speaker 5: I'm not embarrassed at all what I did. If anything,
Speaker 5: I feel like it gave me clarity on sort of
Speaker 5: what you're where you stand and what you're looking for.
Speaker 5: And I mean, I get it, I get why you're
Speaker 5: you're feeling bad, but like at the end of the day,
Speaker 5: like you could have easily just not gone on that date,
Speaker 5: or you could have canceled it, whatever you chose to
Speaker 5: do that that's totally fine. You were set up. I
Speaker 5: know that's a little embarrassing, but I just like you
Speaker 5: don't have to wait each time.
Speaker 3: I don't think that you can gauge in one date
Speaker 3: like what someone's all about and if they're really serious,
Speaker 3: Like I owe you nothing, But I feel bad that
Speaker 3: I couldn't make the choice because I don't know. I
Speaker 3: wish i'd been more decisive, But I can be decisive
Speaker 3: right now and tell you that absolutely, we don't need
Speaker 3: to bother with it because that's my games.
Speaker 1: I'm not interested who you're already cutting it off now.
Speaker 5: I could totally appreciate that, And to be honest, if
Speaker 5: it wasn't for the fact that you texted me back
Speaker 5: after you were stood up, asking to hang out again
Speaker 5: like that same night, I totally have met up for
Speaker 5: a second date, because you know, I just feel a
Speaker 5: little about it. But the fact that you text me
Speaker 5: back right away just kind of showed, like how it
Speaker 5: felt that I was into you.
Speaker 3: It said that I was into you. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 3: I want to be the one not showing up. I
Speaker 3: didn't want to be the no show because that sucks
Speaker 3: and I know what that feels like. So for whoever
Speaker 3: the other guy was, I didn't want to be that person.
Speaker 3: And when he didn't show up, I was relieved and
Speaker 3: I was like, cool, maybe Vince is still down, Maybe
Speaker 3: I can fix this.
Speaker 2: You guys are both making it.
Speaker 4: That's a valid point on Jessica's part.
Speaker 5: I can see where she's coming from, and she's probably
Speaker 5: obviously like like she said, not interested, but she is
Speaker 5: totally fine. I honestly don't have any hard feelings toward her.
Speaker 5: If I saw Jessica in the street and we said
Speaker 5: hello and talked, great, it just.
Speaker 4: Sounds a little aggressive stuff.
Speaker 2: I should just go out and like let your guards
Speaker 2: down a little bit.
Speaker 1: Jessica, Are you're not going to apologize to Vince for
Speaker 1: ditching out in the middle of the date?
Speaker 6: Why was shell She ended the date, paid for half
Speaker 6: the dinner like it was the end of it.
Speaker 4: It's not like she's left in the middle, like he
Speaker 4: should apologize for her.
Speaker 1: Vince did apologize. He was like, I'm sorry if I
Speaker 1: set you up for the trap, but you were the
Speaker 1: one that scheduled another date right after me. Oh, it's
Speaker 1: not a real enough.
Speaker 4: Ball at all. He said, I'm proud of what I did.
Speaker 4: Who is this male model friend up to anyway?
Speaker 1: I haven't heard of Jessica apologize once.
Speaker 3: I don't feel like I need to apologize. I did
Speaker 3: not lie to him. I told him I needed to go.
Speaker 3: I didn't owe him anything.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not your it's not your fault, Jessica that
Speaker 6: his friend was hotter and it wasn't.
Speaker 4: Guys kidding.
Speaker 1: It sounds like we're not going to be able to
Speaker 1: get another date out of this. For anybody. But did
Speaker 1: we at least learn an important life lesson from it all?
Speaker 3: Yea online dating is a waste of time.
Speaker 1: Close this show is a waste of time. But you
Speaker 1: know what, thanks for.
Speaker 4: Playing freaking Jeffrey in the morning.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes in these second date updates, you can
Speaker 1: feel the ships start to sink and we can try
Speaker 1: and bail it out and try and save it, or
Speaker 1: sometimes there doesn't really matter. It's going full Titanic. This
Speaker 1: is gonna sink no matter what, and we just have
Speaker 1: to chalk it up to a bad day. That was
Speaker 1: definitely this second date up day. Yeah, there is no chance, but.
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure she's going to hit up his hot
Speaker 4: roommate again.
Speaker 6: Oh you know, the buddy did him a favor for
Speaker 6: a second.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean he didn't want a date, So.
Speaker 1: I mean she's going to do that just to spite him.
Speaker 4: Maybe maybe it'll still be good for her.
Speaker 1: She may even play the long game, like just marry
Speaker 1: her friend, marry his friend, go all the way up
Speaker 1: to there just to rub it in his face up
Speaker 1: on the altar.
Speaker 4: That's kind of weird. How specific you're thinking about.
Speaker 1: Is the ship sinking?
Speaker 4: Get off the ship?
Speaker 1: Jeff, I'm jumping overboard anyway. If you ever want to
Speaker 1: get a second date up date, you can always email
Speaker 1: the show. We'll call the person who isn't calling you
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