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Speaker 1: The second date of day. Sometimes with a bad first date,

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Speaker 1: there's one moment that you can look back on and

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Speaker 1: say that was it, That was where I messed everything up? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: For me, each date has about fourteen of those. Is

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Speaker 1: it when I did the full reenactment of the movie

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Speaker 1: Garden State?

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Speaker 2: Was that it's you?

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Speaker 1: Or was it when my zipper got caught in the

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Speaker 1: sushi conveyor belt?

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Speaker 3: How?

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Speaker 4: I still don't for some reason, why were.

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Speaker 1: You that close to the you know?

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Speaker 2: He too much?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 1: One of our listeners says that she knows that she

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Speaker 1: made a huge mistake in one moment, and she's regretting

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Speaker 1: it today. That's why she's asking for our help. Her

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Speaker 1: name's Jessica. Jessica. Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 3: Hey guys, Jessica.

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Speaker 2: Before you let us know, I just want to say,

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Speaker 2: sometimes it's good to only have one giant bad thing

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Speaker 2: go wrong, because at least you can pinpoint what went wrong.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, did you have a sushi conveyor belt incident too?

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Speaker 3: There was no sushie involved.

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Speaker 1: Good tragedy avoided. What what what happened with this guy?

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Speaker 1: What's his name?

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Speaker 3: So I went out with Vince?

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Speaker 6: Vince?

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Speaker 5: Okay?

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Speaker 4: And how do you know, Vince, how'd you guys meet?

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Speaker 3: It was online, so it was kind of, you know,

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Speaker 3: like a first sort of blind date online and it

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Speaker 3: was good. It was it was it was nice. We

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Speaker 1: Right, well we'll play a song, we'll come back. We

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Speaker 1: should hear more about it, huh.

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Speaker 4: I mean were you were you shocked that it was

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Speaker 3: I totally was. I you know, I had kind of

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Speaker 3: good time. The problem is, so because I have these

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Speaker 4: Oh wait, like with another date or with a party

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Speaker 4: or something.

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Speaker 3: No, it was another date.

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Speaker 4: Oh girl like that, you have options? Why to the

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Speaker 4: same night.

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Speaker 3: I just figured we'd we'd eat and we're like, okay, thanks,

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Speaker 3: that was fine by and then that would be it.

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Speaker 3: Because that's kind of been my experience.

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Speaker 1: Was Vince aware that you had two dates going on

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Speaker 1: that night?

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Speaker 5: He was not?

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Speaker 3: Oka, he was not, And you know, looking back, I

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Speaker 3: mean that's the moment like I should have canceled, oh,

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Speaker 3: because I lost track of time. And when I realized

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Speaker 3: and I was like, oh shoot, so I had to

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Speaker 3: and I was like, yeah, I'm so sorry. I gotta go,

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Speaker 3: and I then vote him some money for the like

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Speaker 3: be like this good bye.

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Speaker 4: What did you actually leave before the bill came?

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Speaker 3: Well, like it had just gotten there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but like you didn't let him like walk you

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Speaker 3: No, I had to run.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, oh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just as a guy having to sit there and

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Speaker 6: Yeah, before you even finished like totally paying the bill

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Speaker 6: and then they veno you, which is feels it like

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Speaker 3: Right, Yeah. And I think I mean, I think you

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Speaker 3: tell no, no, it's not you, You're great, this is good.

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Speaker 3: I just coming personal came up. I gotta I gotta run. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I feel like I would almost prefer a girl to

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Speaker 1: frantically be like okay, sorry, I gotta go by No,

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Speaker 2: You should have been honest and you said, look, I

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Speaker 2: full attention. You know, it's like a job interview. You

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Speaker 1: Like, Okay, just tell me about yourself real quick. I

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Speaker 1: gotta go. I gotta go ya. Based on your profile

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Speaker 1: picture and your interests, I had very very low expectations

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Speaker 6: And the thing is, I'm guessing the second date went

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Speaker 6: terribly because we're not calling the second date for a

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Speaker 6: second date update, we're calling the first dude.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, what happened with guy number two?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Guy number two was a no show?

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Speaker 6: It I bet you, I bet you felt I would

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Speaker 3: Oh I did. I waited an hour at the bar

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Speaker 3: for this guy, and I just felt like it was big,

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Speaker 3: it's full. And so after my hour of waiting, I

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Speaker 3: tested Vince and I was like, hey, so I cleared

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Speaker 3: that up. If you're still out, I'd love to hang

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Speaker 3: and he texted me back lol.

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Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah he is, and that's all you guys

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I tried texting him one other time and he didn't respond,

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Speaker 3: so I was like, Okay, I'm gonna leave it alone.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to pesture him, but I'm feeling really

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Speaker 3: really bad about it, and I you know, I'm hoping

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Speaker 3: it's something that I could kind of come back from.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. If you tell him the truth, it

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Speaker 2: makes you sound bad, like, hey, I'm only calling you

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Speaker 2: have I beg you.

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Speaker 6: But you can explain it as like you made a mistake.

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Speaker 6: He's dating, like he gets it, like it's hard, it's

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Speaker 6: hard to make decisions. It always feels like the more

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Speaker 6: don't know.

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Speaker 4: I don't want to date to leave me for another date.

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Speaker 4: I mean nobody would. Nobody would. But do we have

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Speaker 2: No, that's why we don't.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I think we're going to go in planning

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Speaker 1: to not tell him yes, but you know what, if

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Speaker 1: it slips out, then it slips out. You do this.

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Speaker 4: Every once in a while. Somebody wants what they can't have.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and if he thinks that she's wanted by a

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Speaker 6: lot of other people, that's not necessarily to play some games.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we should say it wasn't just one extra date.

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Speaker 1: Maybe it was twenty extra dates. And the other guys

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Speaker 1: could match up to Vince. Right, Convince was better than

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Speaker 1: all of them. We're going to play a song, we'll

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Speaker 1: come back, we'll call Vince and we'll try and get

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Speaker 1: your second date. Update. Okay, Jessica, all right, all right,

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Speaker 1: hold on.

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Speaker 5: Update.

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Speaker 1: The saying is nice guys finished last. Yeah, but that's

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Speaker 1: not always true. Sometimes they don't even get to finish

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Speaker 1: dinner before their date ducks out on you for a

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Speaker 4: Yeah, go out.

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Speaker 1: Sorry for the low blow there, Jessica, but that is

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Speaker 1: what she did to a great dude that she was

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Speaker 1: with named Vince. She had to leave early to go

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Speaker 1: meet up with another guy, and what happened? Other guy

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Speaker 1: no showed.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, anything is Jeffrey. If you liked Vince Moore, you

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Speaker 4: would have booked his date second.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 4: My initial like, you wouldn't have put him first.

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Speaker 1: It ended the night, no matter what. But she went

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Speaker 1: in with those low expectations. So, Jessica, I want you

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Speaker 1: to know we are going to try our very best here,

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Speaker 1: but even though we're enjoying ourselves, we have another phone

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Speaker 1: call book with a possibly better hotter listener in ten minutes,

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Speaker 1: So we're gonna trying to make this quick.

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Speaker 3: Okay, all right, but really, really please if we can

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Speaker 4: Okay, okay, so why did you leave? Then? I mean

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Speaker 3: Family emergency, right, like, admit, it's a family emergency and

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Speaker 3: we just met. He doesn't have to know those details.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, well.

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Speaker 2: What what's the detail? Grandpa's sick?

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Speaker 4: Like she said, he didn't have to know the details.

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Speaker 4: He doesn't need What if he asks.

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Speaker 2: Like, oh my god, family emergency is everyone?

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Speaker 2: What do we say?

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Speaker 4: Your business? Okay, talk about my family? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: All right, all right, we'll.

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Speaker 6: Vague he's gonna Jessica.

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Speaker 5: All right, we're ready.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna dial Vince's phone number, try and get your

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Speaker 1: second date update. Here we go.

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Speaker 5: Hello, Hey is this Vince? This is him, this Evince.

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Speaker 1: My name is Jeff from a morning radio show called

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Speaker 1: Brook and Jeffrey in the Morning. What's up, KNA was

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Speaker 1: awkward silence, I freaked out. Okay, we're all here.

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Speaker 5: What's going on, gred.

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Speaker 1: It's a segment, Yep, it is an awkward segment that

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Speaker 1: we do. It's called a second Date Update. We're calling

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Speaker 1: on behalf of one of our listeners who went out

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Speaker 1: on a date with you.

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Speaker 5: Her name's Jessicah, yeah, Jessica. Okay, hmm.

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Speaker 4: She really liked you, really? Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I know, it doesn't seem like she liked you because

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Speaker 1: she left the date in such a hurry, but that's

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Speaker 1: just one of the things that she does when she

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Speaker 4: And leaves freaked out.

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Speaker 1: It's a problem.

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Speaker 5: Oh so, so she told you guys what happened.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, she gave us a little recap of it.

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Speaker 5: And she and she actually felt bad about it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I mean, she's she didn't want to have

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Speaker 1: to leave, but she didn't really have a choice.

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Speaker 2: Family emergency.

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Speaker 5: Okay, Yeah, I don't know. I just kind of doubt

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Speaker 5: that's really the case.

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Speaker 6: I mean, she texted you later, she said, just to

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Speaker 6: let you know that she was like still interested.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, she did text me later she wanted

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Speaker 5: to like me back.

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Speaker 1: Upright, and we heard you texted back kind of snarky,

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Speaker 1: just lol.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I said that because she really seemed

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Speaker 5: somewhere else more important to be. Like, we were having

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Speaker 1: But that's not really fair to her because it could

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Speaker 1: have been something that was totally out of her control.

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Speaker 5: Oh really, So, I mean, you guys talked to her,

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Speaker 1: WHOA.

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Speaker 5: I know this is crazy, and you know, I was

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so he reached out and she already had a

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Speaker 6: Yeah, kid, dude, you set a trap for her.

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Speaker 5: Well, I didn't know that, to be honest, she would

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Speaker 1: Come on, if you had.

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Speaker 6: A model that matched with you and wanted to go

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Speaker 5: Still, I actually would have just canceled the other date

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Speaker 4: Are you two dates you wouldn't want.

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Speaker 5: To like, yeah, because then it kind of just felt

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Speaker 3: You know. Yeah, I don't like.

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Speaker 4: This, that's low man.

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Speaker 6: I just think that you're missing an opportunity, like if

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Speaker 5: And like, the reason why I put the test out

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Speaker 1: To you know, I feel like maybe there is some

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Speaker 4: That doesn't help trust is shoes.

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Speaker 1: She wants to talk to you right now.

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Speaker 5: Man, Wait, she's listening to this whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, don't you trust her?

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 1: She's right there? Jessica, Hi, awkward?

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, how's it going, Jessica.

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Speaker 3: Uh, not great. I feel really bad that I couldn't

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Speaker 3: and that's wow, that's a lot.

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Speaker 1: There's so much on both sides.

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Speaker 2: Like I think you both just hang up before we

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Speaker 1: I'm just too much.

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Speaker 5: I'm not embarrassed at all what I did. If anything,

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Speaker 5: I feel like it gave me clarity on sort of

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Speaker 5: And I mean, I get it, I get why you're

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Speaker 5: or you could have canceled it, whatever you chose to

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Speaker 5: do that that's totally fine. You were set up. I

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Speaker 5: know that's a little embarrassing, but I just like you

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Speaker 3: I don't think that you can gauge in one date

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Speaker 3: Like I owe you nothing, But I feel bad that

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Speaker 3: I couldn't make the choice because I don't know. I

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Speaker 3: right now and tell you that absolutely, we don't need

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Speaker 1: I'm not interested who you're already cutting it off now.

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Speaker 5: I could totally appreciate that, And to be honest, if

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Speaker 5: like that same night, I totally have met up for

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Speaker 3: It said that I was into you. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 3: I want to be the one not showing up. I

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Speaker 3: And when he didn't show up, I was relieved and

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Speaker 3: I was like, cool, maybe Vince is still down, Maybe

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Speaker 3: I can fix this.

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Speaker 2: You guys are both making it.

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Speaker 4: That's a valid point on Jessica's part.

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Speaker 5: I can see where she's coming from, and she's probably

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Speaker 5: obviously like like she said, not interested, but she is

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Speaker 5: totally fine. I honestly don't have any hard feelings toward her.

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Speaker 5: If I saw Jessica in the street and we said

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Speaker 4: Sounds a little aggressive stuff.

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Speaker 2: I should just go out and like let your guards

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Speaker 1: Jessica, Are you're not going to apologize to Vince for

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Speaker 6: Why was shell She ended the date, paid for half

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Speaker 1: Vince did apologize. He was like, I'm sorry if I

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Speaker 4: Ball at all. He said, I'm proud of what I did.

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Speaker 4: Who is this male model friend up to anyway?

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Speaker 1: I haven't heard of Jessica apologize once.

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Speaker 3: I don't feel like I need to apologize. I did

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Speaker 3: I didn't owe him anything.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's not your it's not your fault, Jessica that

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Speaker 4: Guys kidding.

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Speaker 1: It sounds like we're not going to be able to

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Speaker 1: get another date out of this. For anybody. But did

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Speaker 1: we at least learn an important life lesson from it all?

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Speaker 3: Yea online dating is a waste of time.

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Speaker 1: Close this show is a waste of time. But you

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Speaker 1: know what, thanks for.

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Speaker 4: Playing freaking Jeffrey in the morning.

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Speaker 1: You know, sometimes in these second date updates, you can

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Speaker 1: sometimes there doesn't really matter. It's going full Titanic. This

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Speaker 1: to chalk it up to a bad day. That was

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Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure she's going to hit up his hot

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Speaker 6: Oh you know, the buddy did him a favor for

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Speaker 4: But yeah, I mean he didn't want a date, So.

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Speaker 1: I mean she's going to do that just to spite him.

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Speaker 4: Maybe maybe it'll still be good for her.

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Speaker 1: She may even play the long game, like just marry

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Speaker 1: her friend, marry his friend, go all the way up

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Speaker 1: to there just to rub it in his face up

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Speaker 1: on the altar.

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Speaker 4: That's kind of weird. How specific you're thinking about.

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Speaker 1: Is the ship sinking?

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Speaker 4: Get off the ship?

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Speaker 1: Jeff, I'm jumping overboard anyway. If you ever want to

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Speaker 1: get a second date up date, you can always email

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Speaker 1: the show. We'll call the person who isn't calling you

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Speaker 1: back