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Speaker 1: And then I got this audition for Shazam. I didn't

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Speaker 1: even know what it was. I had no idea it

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Speaker 1: was a superhero movie. I was just going in there

429
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Speaker 1: and being a seven year old and then I get

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Speaker 1: the call that I got the part, and I was like, so,

431
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Speaker 1: what is it. They're like Shazamn. I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: Kazam was like shocked back in the day. They're like, no,

433
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Speaker 1: shazamne and I looked it up and I was like, wait,

434
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Speaker 1: what these superhero movies? And I like, I kid you not.

435
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Speaker 1: I bust out crying. I was like in the middle

436
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Speaker 1: of a strip mall. I was like said yeah. Years.

437
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Speaker 1: I was like on crying outside of like a nutrition store,

438
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Speaker 1: like ran in and told like the lady behind the

439
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Speaker 1: count was like I just got a movie, and she's like, oh, forgot.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's like and it was crazy because it

441
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Speaker 1: was the perfect thing for me, because you know this

442
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Speaker 1: type of superhero where where we actually our children that

443
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Speaker 1: hasn't been done and it's a it's a very fresh

444
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Speaker 1: take and it's something that I can do. I've been

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Speaker 1: doing little kid voices like my whole life. People just

446
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Speaker 1: don't always see that side of me. So it was

447
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Speaker 1: like the perfect purfect super earp for me, in perfect

448
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Speaker 1: kind of blessing from God and also a testimony, a

449
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Speaker 1: testament for like meeting God half way in him saying Okay,

450
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Speaker 1: here you go do the work and I and I

451
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Speaker 1: provide the way and the opportunity, and you people, you'll

452
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Speaker 1: be ready for the opportunity. You know. I'm gonna just

453
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Speaker 1: tell you that I've seen Soxam at least six times.

454
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Speaker 1: I'm just a guy. I've seen that ending probably about

455
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Speaker 1: ten times because it's just so cute and when you

456
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Speaker 1: and all the characters recognize that they go to adulthood

457
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Speaker 1: and when you for somehow it works so perfectly for

458
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Speaker 1: you and you just you gotta downpay congratulations. I just

459
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Speaker 1: want to just tell you that just congratulated. It's it's

460
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Speaker 1: it's believable. It's very cute. It makes me smile even

461
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Speaker 1: when I'm talking to you about right now. I'm smiling

462
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Speaker 1: because it's just one of my favorite parts of the movie.

463
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Speaker 1: And I can't wait to Sxam too, because I know

464
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Speaker 1: that character is gonna be fleshed out a little bit

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Speaker 1: more and we'll see it a lot earlier than the

466
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Speaker 1: movie instead of the end of the movie. And I

467
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Speaker 1: don't feel i'm giving away the movie. If anybody has

468
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Speaker 1: not seen it, maybe you'll watch it now, because when

469
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Speaker 1: you get to that part of the movie, you'll be smiling,

470
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Speaker 1: just like ri Shan McDonald. I want to make a tan.

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Speaker 1: I want to give a transition to you, to you,

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Speaker 1: you and your husband on the cover of the book

473
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Speaker 1: to Wait. First of all, compliments to both of you guys.

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Speaker 1: Very attractive couple. Y'all look fantastic. It's called The Way,

475
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Speaker 1: a powerful practice for finding the love of your life

476
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Speaker 1: and the life you love. Why did you write this

477
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Speaker 1: book with him? Um? It's interesting because the short version is,

478
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Speaker 1: you know, when Devone and I got together, Um, I

479
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Speaker 1: just came out of a kind of a verbally abusive

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Speaker 1: relationship and it wasn't just the other person. It was

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Speaker 1: both of us. We were not good for each other.

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Speaker 1: But I literally said, Lord, what am I supposed to

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Speaker 1: be doing? And he told me three things. He said,

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Speaker 1: get out of that relationship. I need you to be sulibant.

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Speaker 1: And Devon is your husband, and I said divine. And

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Speaker 1: I was like wait, and I'm like, what am I

487
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Speaker 1: supposed to do? And God was just like nothing, just

488
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Speaker 1: work on yourself. So from that point forward, I worked

489
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Speaker 1: on becoming celibant. I wasn't you know, successful immediately, but

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Speaker 1: ultimately I was. And about a few months into it,

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Speaker 1: about five months into getting that revelation, I told a

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Speaker 1: friend of mine that Divan was my husband and she said, oh, girl,

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Speaker 1: she's you know he's a preacher, right. I said no,

494
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Speaker 1: and I said, well, I thought would have scared me away,

495
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Speaker 1: but I know what God told me, so it's okay.

496
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Speaker 1: And I said and I said, and you know, um,

497
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Speaker 1: she said, you know that he's celibate, right And I said, well,

498
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Speaker 1: I'm celiban too. She said no, girl, he's for real selebant.

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Speaker 1: And wait, yes, so because he was preaching, he had

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Speaker 1: been celibant for years. Um. And she was like yeah,

501
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Speaker 1: you and you you're few muth girl, yeah whatever, you know. Anyways,

502
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Speaker 1: and so um, when Divine and I got together, it

503
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Speaker 1: was like you know, it was we were sublevant for

504
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Speaker 1: that for our our year together before we got married.

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Speaker 1: And it was the best experience of my life because

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Speaker 1: I got to know him the way that it's like

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Speaker 1: I got to know him in like four months, the

508
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Speaker 1: way it took me to get to know someone in

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Speaker 1: four years. And that because there was no it was

510
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Speaker 1: intimacy in terms of like emotion and spiritually, but there

511
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Speaker 1: was no physical intimacy. It that way. So really all

512
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Speaker 1: I had to do was besides, do I like you

513
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Speaker 1: as a human being? Do I enjoy being with you?

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Speaker 1: Do I want to spend a lifetime with you? Are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you about the same thing as in life? Are

516
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Speaker 1: we going to the same place? We complement each other

517
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Speaker 1: in their purpose? So all that stuff was so clear

518
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Speaker 1: because there was no distractions. That the reason we ended

519
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Speaker 1: up writing the book is because people kept asking us

520
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,399
Speaker 1: about it, and you know, we would tell me the

521
00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:32,320
Speaker 1: story whatever, and they were like, we really would love

522
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Speaker 1: to have a book about this. So men were like,

523
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Speaker 1: I guess we just will write a book not to

524
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Speaker 1: be preachy, And I tell people to do, but to

525
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Speaker 1: tell them what our experience was and just just to

526
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Speaker 1: be transparent about that and if it helps someone and

527
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Speaker 1: bless you someone great, you know, And well I wasn't

528
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Speaker 1: even helping a lot of people. There's two things I

529
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Speaker 1: want to bring out about the book. The way. It's

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Speaker 1: doubt about sex, but it begins with sex. It's a

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Speaker 1: book about relationships. And one of my favorite lines in

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Speaker 1: the book is this, um, the way the way you

533
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Speaker 1: stop is okay, in your book, the way you stop

534
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Speaker 1: stop picking and choosing which parts of the Bible you

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Speaker 1: will follow. I read that and I just bought out laughing,

536
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Speaker 1: because not only do is does that line apply to me,

537
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Speaker 1: but so many people we go, we'll do this. It's

538
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: too much work to do everything. So I'm gonna follow

539
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Speaker 1: this over here. But as you say, you can't part

540
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Speaker 1: time follow God. Yeah that's what you're saying, right, Yeah, yeah,

541
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Speaker 1: I mean I think that's the biggest thing is that

542
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Speaker 1: I think we do tend to pick and choose, and

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Speaker 1: especially as it pertains to sex, because we feel like, well,

544
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Speaker 1: you lord, you have to understand this part you gave us.

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Speaker 1: You know, you don't want to do it, you know,

546
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Speaker 1: all the Christians and things is doing it now? Come

547
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Speaker 1: on right? You know, just like when I when I

548
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Speaker 1: first left my virginity, I you know, I said I'll

549
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Speaker 1: wait till I'm gonna get married. I lost my virginity

550
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Speaker 1: at nineteen, and it was later than most of my friends.

551
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Speaker 1: But it was also like I was like, well, this

552
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Speaker 1: is my first love. I'm gonna marry himself. You know,

553
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: it's my husband anyways. And it wasn't um but I realized,

554
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,680
Speaker 1: you know, I lived my life like every times where

555
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,359
Speaker 1: I felt bad and I would like repent and I

556
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: would not have sex for months, and then you know,

557
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: and it just I realized that I was really picking

558
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,200
Speaker 1: and choosing and giving myself license instead of saying, let

559
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Speaker 1: me just try to do the hardest thing that there

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Speaker 1: is to do in terms of the commandments, and let's

561
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Speaker 1: see how that goes. And what I realized is the

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Speaker 1: once I conquered that and I found that discipline within

563
00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:31,359
Speaker 1: myself for the laid gratification and to not pick and choose,

564
00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,440
Speaker 1: it gave me the freedom and the power to have

565
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:38,919
Speaker 1: more self control over so many areas. I hated working out,

566
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Speaker 1: and you know, it was never gonna happen because of

567
00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: the discipline I learned from the weight is why I

568
00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,720
Speaker 1: was able to work out, which ultimately resulted in Shazam

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Speaker 1: and ultimately resulted in me about to be thirty nine.

570
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Speaker 1: I'm in the best shape of my life because my

571
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: lifestyle changed because of my discipline, change because of the way.

572
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: So it's not just relationships, it's it's across the board

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Speaker 1: to change my live because because you guys got were married, correct,

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Speaker 1: And I have to say I have to say, like

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm a fan of yours. I have to

576
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: say that period between and now, I have to say,

577
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 1: it's been the most the best part of your career.

578
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: I don't want to be sounded insulty. I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: the movies, the films, the projects, your your brand, your

580
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:30,400
Speaker 1: your your ability, your luck. You glow. You know, when

581
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 1: you're with your husband, you glow. And that comes back

582
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: to discipline and honesty with yourself. And that is my

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Speaker 1: That is one of the takeaways that I had with

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Speaker 1: the book to Wait. And if you don't mind, it's

585
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,840
Speaker 1: it's because it's on my shelf at my home because

586
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:49,000
Speaker 1: I gave it to my daughter. She read it. And

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00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: I have a home in Houston and Atlanta have it

588
00:28:51,040 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 1: to keep it in my Atlanta home. Uh. Is it

589
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 1: still available to be bought the book? Yeah, yeah, the

590
00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: Amazon and just anywhere if you if you feel a

591
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,160
Speaker 1: little surge in book sales, because Roushan McDonald's gonna do this.

592
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Speaker 1: I have an eighty thousand fans fan Club email newsletter

593
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:14,040
Speaker 1: I sent out every Friday at nine am. I'm gonna

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00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,680
Speaker 1: put this book in my news letter. Okay. And because

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Speaker 1: I feel that there's so many inconsistencies I've had in

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Speaker 1: my life and one of the things that doing money

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00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,200
Speaker 1: making conversations has allowed me to. You know, I made

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Speaker 1: a lot of people famous, I made a lot of

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00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:33,600
Speaker 1: corporations money in my life. But what I've what I've

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Speaker 1: done is found with Sean McDonald and I just talking

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Speaker 1: to you on this during this interview. It's just so

602
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Speaker 1: fulfilling to me because of the fact that you got it. Megan,

603
00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: you you you you clearly are comfortable with yourself. You

604
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,920
Speaker 1: clearly are happy with yourself, and you're a beautiful person.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a that's awesome. Congratulations. Wow, that blessed me. Thanks,

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00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: thank you, thank you for that. You know, I have

607
00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,480
Speaker 1: to be honest because of the fact that and I

608
00:30:02,520 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: try to do this show and and and expose people

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Speaker 1: be uh, when I dropped the whole idea of money

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00:30:08,600 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: making conversations. You know, we may talk about your career

611
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Speaker 1: when you talk about this when the people come on

612
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Speaker 1: the show, but I always want to pull back the

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Speaker 1: curtain so people can just talk. And I ought to

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Speaker 1: play no music. I have no ambush questions. I just

615
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: wanted to just really talk. And this is gonna be

616
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 1: well received in my platform, this interview, and you're just special.

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Speaker 1: I just wanted to keep winning. And uh, and I'd

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Speaker 1: like to get your husband Voune on the show to

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Speaker 1: talk about it. Like I have something that call a

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Speaker 1: power couples. I bring power couples on my show together

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Speaker 1: so they can talk. And uh, that's a very popular

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Speaker 1: series I have with money making conversations. But more importantly,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know you you made me happy. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna do exam to you're coming back and that you're

625
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Speaker 1: standing in shape, so you're gonna be ready for that.

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Speaker 1: The girl girl raps. We know we sold that in

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Speaker 1: certain things right now, but we're gonna get that up

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Speaker 1: and running because guess what I'm gonna put that in

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Speaker 1: my newsletter. That means sold. That's a good thing, making sold,

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Speaker 1: that's a good thing. You the good creat the good

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Speaker 1: foundation that you started with your sister that's doing great things,

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Speaker 1: and the and the weight is a blessing that I

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Speaker 1: want to put back that put out there in my

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Speaker 1: platform to the world of my followers are female and

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00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: they need to hear the word. And the word is

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Speaker 1: being delivered by you and your husband. And it's a

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Speaker 1: written word. And guess what the Bible is written word,

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