Speaker 1: What you're trying to get into one day, or shown
Speaker 1: what you're trying to do.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm trying to animate, Yeah, always trying to animate.
Speaker 3: I got I had.
Speaker 2: I had Elder and Calvin over just now and we
Speaker 2: was lighting my shit and I got a nice little
Speaker 2: reverse shot to the stuff that I've been working on.
Speaker 2: I'm really excited. It took from nine to twelve thirty one,
Speaker 2: which is why I'm late. I not to get the
Speaker 2: shot to light the shot. Wow, it's animation, so everything
Speaker 2: moves and the light has to stay consistent.
Speaker 1: You gotta have a lot of patience for that animation.
Speaker 3: You gotta have a lot of patience.
Speaker 1: What I got is true. Do you think there's color
Speaker 1: is too much for me? Donald? It's loud.
Speaker 2: I was wondering if you were trying to be invisible,
Speaker 2: like it's like a green screen shirt, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: I guess the video team to cut crop. Yes on.
Speaker 1: The video team could could do something clever with this,
Speaker 1: Like maybe they could probably give them a clean I'll
Speaker 1: give them a clean frame and then they could do
Speaker 1: floating head Zach.
Speaker 3: Very nice.
Speaker 1: Okay, now they can use that and just make me
Speaker 1: floating here.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: What they can also do is they can put if
Speaker 2: you stand up just one time and freeze it. They
Speaker 2: can put the date of your concert that you're throwing
Speaker 2: in a couple of months.
Speaker 1: On my shirt.
Speaker 3: On your shirt.
Speaker 1: Well, it's March twenty ninth. To put it on there, guys,
Speaker 1: March twenty ninth at the Greek Theater. Donald, by the way,
Speaker 1: I meant to ask you, I'm gonna ask you live
Speaker 1: in front of the listeners. We'll do it live. Well,
Speaker 1: do it live? Will you be a presenter at the
Speaker 1: benefit concert and introduce one of the bands with me?
Speaker 3: Is it cold Play?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 3: Then I don't know if I'm available.
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, it's funny, you say, Jesus, you
Speaker 1: know what's funny about this? You know what's funny about this?
Speaker 1: I thought that our shtick. Sorry this is a spoiler
Speaker 1: for those of you coming to the concert, but I
Speaker 1: thought our stick could be.
Speaker 3: Is it a black guy?
Speaker 1: Yeah? No, no? Is it what you said when I
Speaker 1: gave Donald the Garden State script?
Speaker 3: Are there any black people in the script? You know?
Speaker 1: And then to which I responded, yes, there are two
Speaker 1: black men in the movie. And you said, am I
Speaker 1: right for any of them? And I said, I already
Speaker 1: gave up. No, I said, from one of them, you're
Speaker 1: not right, and for the one you are right. For
Speaker 1: I already gave to method man, to which you replied,
Speaker 1: then I don't need to read the script.
Speaker 3: The script.
Speaker 1: And he never reade it read it. And I thought
Speaker 1: we could tell that story to the audience.
Speaker 3: Sounds great.
Speaker 1: And then I thought the other story we could tell. Sorry,
Speaker 1: this is a spoiler for any of you coming to
Speaker 1: the concert. The other story I thought we could tell
Speaker 1: would be it would be a do you remember we
Speaker 1: did a friends and family swing of Garden State, maybe
Speaker 1: like a fifty to one hundred people who I knew
Speaker 1: were like, you know, just just so we could get feedback.
Speaker 3: That was the That was the wrong choice of words.
Speaker 2: You can't say to get feedback, because I gave feedback.
Speaker 1: And a funny story is that the movie had an
Speaker 1: ending that I needed to trim. It was too it
Speaker 1: was too dark, and it kind of was multiple endings,
Speaker 1: but I was clutching onto it. I really didn't want
Speaker 1: to let it go. And Danny DeVito, who was the
Speaker 1: executive producer on a movie, he led the focus group
Speaker 1: after watching the movie and said to all of my
Speaker 1: friends and family and people that worked with the movie,
Speaker 1: they said, does anyone feel like the movie has too
Speaker 1: many endings? One hand shoots up in the center of
Speaker 1: the audience, Donald Faizon, and he's got that looked at him.
Speaker 3: I I look at him.
Speaker 2: I go I said to him, Yo, I'm sorry, dog,
Speaker 2: but it does have too many endings.
Speaker 3: Man, I feel like it wants too many times.
Speaker 2: I was like, he was right away, you come back,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like, it just seems like,
Speaker 2: what is it gonna be?
Speaker 3: Is she gonna be alone? Is she gonna be with you?
Speaker 1: Oh? That part I I cut the I cut them
Speaker 1: sort of ending. That was a sad part of the
Speaker 1: ending that I cut. But you were right, you and
Speaker 1: Danny DeVito and everybody else, Bill Laurence, everyone who gave
Speaker 1: me notes was right that I needed to trim the ending.
Speaker 1: But the point was that I wasn't ready. I wasn't
Speaker 1: there yet, and I was certainly not expecting my best
Speaker 1: friend to be the one who shoots hand up to
Speaker 1: Dany de Vito and be like, I haven't.
Speaker 3: Really started laughing. You started laughing. You're like this ninja.
Speaker 1: Because everybody else like even if they were thinking it.
Speaker 1: They're my friends and my family. They might they were
Speaker 1: trying to I imagine if I was in that situation,
Speaker 1: you're like trying to think, like, what's the tackful way
Speaker 1: to do this? I probably should tell Zach I agree
Speaker 1: with Danny, but maybe I'll do it in private. This
Speaker 1: dude's arms shut up. I have things to say.
Speaker 2: I got notes. I think I believe our friendship is
Speaker 2: like that though. I believe if I had something and
Speaker 2: you were like, it doesn't work, you would say right
Speaker 2: away it doesn't work.
Speaker 1: Well, what I mean? I would say that your wife
Speaker 1: does that all the time. Yeah, we an't around. She
Speaker 1: doesn't censor.
Speaker 3: Birds of a feather.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah she My wife doesn't censor at all.
Speaker 1: And then when you get in an argument where you're like,
Speaker 1: what the fuck, she's like, I'm just keeping it rail,
Speaker 1: don't y'all want me to keep it rail?
Speaker 3: Yes, prospector no judgments.
Speaker 1: She also says, no judgments. I'm just keeping no judgments, y'all.
Speaker 1: All right, no judgments, y'all. That's what she says before
Speaker 1: she drops some crazy ship. All right, no judgments, y'all,
Speaker 1: And then she says something crazy, outrageous and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: I agreed to no judgments.
Speaker 3: I said no judgments.
Speaker 1: I inadvertently signed up for no judgments, but I have judgments.
Speaker 1: She doesn't give you a chance to say whether you
Speaker 1: sign up for no judgments. She just says no judgments
Speaker 1: and then launches into some shit might have judgments about?
Speaker 3: She does not give a ship so much?
Speaker 1: Don't she get the Grammys? Yo?
Speaker 4: Good?
Speaker 2: That was pretty impressive, man, so good.
Speaker 4: I want to Broadway Musical number performance Ala Matilda.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was.
Speaker 2: Texting the whole time, all of them, that whole that
Speaker 2: whole new.
Speaker 1: Artist the new artist section.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that single one of the best New
Speaker 2: Artist category I've seen in a really really really really
Speaker 2: long time.
Speaker 1: But it's usually just one flips off the piano. I
Speaker 1: don't even know that dude, Vincent, please by the way.
Speaker 2: I want you, I need you, O gun, don't take
Speaker 2: There's beautiful things.
Speaker 1: That a god dog by the way. I've heard that song,
Speaker 1: of course, all over the internet, but I've never seen
Speaker 1: what he looks like, nor that he was such an
Speaker 1: incredible performer. I mean, that was amazing.
Speaker 2: That out of all of them, in my opinion, he's
Speaker 2: the best performer.
Speaker 1: But out slowed downn't She was fucking amazing?
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, but I'm trying. This motherfucker is just himself
Speaker 2: on the stage doing flips. Had a lot of props
Speaker 2: going on, so did Serena, no doubt. But the ones
Speaker 2: that he had just a piano and him.
Speaker 4: And a sparkling ones and a band.
Speaker 2: And a sparkly ones freaking uh what's your name?
Speaker 3: What's her name?
Speaker 5: Uh uh?
Speaker 2: The shoot pink, the pony chaperone. She had a freaking
Speaker 2: whole thing too, you know what I mean, Like everybody
Speaker 2: had some type of uh uh you know.
Speaker 1: Performance production.
Speaker 2: It's just him and the flips, and and and and
Speaker 2: the and the onesie.
Speaker 1: He was he was hot. They cut to sizzle in
Speaker 1: the front row after she was all hot and bothered.
Speaker 1: Do you see her face?
Speaker 3: That boy got it. That boy got it.
Speaker 2: All of them got it though. That was the thing
Speaker 2: that was the thing that was so amazing. Everyone in
Speaker 2: that category had, even the band that really didn't sing,
Speaker 2: they were just playing the music they had.
Speaker 1: It was the English singer I don't know her either,
Speaker 1: May something with an m Ray Ray. She was incredible.
Speaker 4: She's delightful. Lovey oh.
Speaker 1: I had never heard of her. She was in I mean,
Speaker 1: since this is why the Grammys are good, as you
Speaker 1: that little section where you get to learn all these
Speaker 1: musicians you didn't even ever heard of before that. I
Speaker 1: didn't know. Shaboozy was like country.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exclusively, that's Dolly Parton's godson.
Speaker 3: Really, the dude was getting no shine until freaking Beyonce.
Speaker 1: What do you mean?
Speaker 4: She did blow him up. But after he had a
Speaker 4: number one track for like a record, breaking him out
Speaker 4: of weeks. So he did the Tipsy Song remix. It
Speaker 4: was country that took over. And then he appeared on
Speaker 4: two tracks on the.
Speaker 1: Okay and then all right, wait what about there was
Speaker 1: so much How about a re evo singing that song
Speaker 1: for Jones?
Speaker 4: Jones moment, I was a little bit beside myself was
Speaker 4: really beautiful.
Speaker 2: IM gonna keep a one hundred. Will Smith did seem
Speaker 2: a little he was a little shook, you know.
Speaker 1: I thought it was accept me.
Speaker 3: Are you gonna? Are you gonna? Am I? Are we cool?
Speaker 6: Yet?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I thought it was weird, like if
Speaker 1: you're gonna, if you're gonna, if you're gonna come back,
Speaker 1: don't come back. In an award show. It's just to me.
Speaker 1: It could have anonymous stomach.
Speaker 4: It's a music awards. They didn't exactly like my kids
Speaker 4: are here and hang out. I guess what do you.
Speaker 1: Think, Joelle? What would Joelle? You didn't you didn't have
Speaker 1: a pit in your stomach. When you saw Will Smith
Speaker 1: at an award show, I was like, really, what.
Speaker 3: About his son? What about his son's a hat?
Speaker 1: And I loved him something. The kid knows how to trend.
Speaker 1: The kid knows how to eis does try. Everyone's like
Speaker 1: everyone falls for it. Every time. He's like, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: wear a house in my head and then everyone talks
Speaker 1: about it. It makes memes and he's like, I wont
Speaker 1: everyone's talking about me?
Speaker 3: Dude.
Speaker 2: Sounds like like he knows how to get that attention. Man,
Speaker 2: he's good at that. Ship man is amazing.
Speaker 1: He has mastered the art of I would like to
Speaker 1: be trending all over the internet. Yes, I'm gonna wear
Speaker 1: a house on my head.
Speaker 2: He wore a house on his head.
Speaker 1: I saw a funny meme where someone put like an
Speaker 1: angry face in the hole where his was. It was
Speaker 1: like it was like Dad's dads. When someone's turning around
Speaker 1: in your Driveway. Well, I thought it was a very
Speaker 1: entertaining show. Most importantly, I just thought it showcased so
Speaker 1: much talent, and those categories were like, how could you
Speaker 1: possibly by our friend? Andrew Watt won two Grammys, one
Speaker 1: for Die with a Smile and one for Best Rock
Speaker 1: Album for The Rolling Stones.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna say something really quick.
Speaker 1: Wait before you do, I just want to say.
Speaker 3: It has something to do with Andrew to remember.
Speaker 1: I just want to say that. Then they dropped that
Speaker 1: whole Gaga god. Yeah, Andrew wrote that.
Speaker 4: Well He's back and Cheese back.
Speaker 1: Oh wow.
Speaker 4: They killed it the way the girls were like to
Speaker 4: the club immediately added to the hit playlist, like the
Speaker 4: New Workout album, the New Dance Club song It's Fire.
Speaker 1: Kid Is. He won, He won Best Rock Producer with
Speaker 1: The Stones. Then he wins whatever the category was for
Speaker 1: Die with a Smile. And then they showed they debut
Speaker 1: that whole Lady Gaga fucking music video and he wrote that.
Speaker 3: Song I'm gonna say something, Go ahead. I feel like.
Speaker 2: Charlotte Lawrence got a lot of face time at the Grammys. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and she looked amazing, And I believe now is the
Speaker 2: time to capitalize because I know a lot of people
Speaker 2: were saying, who's that lovely girl right there?
Speaker 3: Who's that? Who is that pretty young lady right there?
Speaker 2: I know there were some fire I know there were
Speaker 2: several people wondering who she was.
Speaker 1: Well, they're going to find out in twenty twenty five, Donalds.
Speaker 2: I believe, so. I believe now is the time to
Speaker 2: strike because the iron is hot.
Speaker 1: And when you have her on a podcast, she will
Speaker 1: come songs of earphones.
Speaker 3: She will have a dongle.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, she will search for a dongle and only
Speaker 1: have a butt plug. This is an easter egg for
Speaker 1: those of you who listen to the podcast regularly. What
Speaker 1: you're trying to get into a dare what you're trying
Speaker 1: to do? How about this? We shouldn't talk about it,
Speaker 1: but this Baldoni uh Blake Lively thing, that's just good hands.
Speaker 3: That is nuts And I don't know what to believe
Speaker 3: at all.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not gonna We're not gonna go down there.
Speaker 3: I don't want to be. I don't want to be.
Speaker 1: I started reading. I spent way too much time reading
Speaker 1: the website.
Speaker 3: Be involved, you know, I do not don't want any
Speaker 3: of the smoke.
Speaker 1: Trying to get involved, but didn't read any Did you
Speaker 1: read any of the website?
Speaker 4: I read everything a gas the text message change. I
Speaker 4: was like, this is wild. But then even if you
Speaker 4: like take a step back and you're like, Okay, I'm
Speaker 4: not sure this is all just stuff that's been admitted
Speaker 4: into evidence.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 4: I follow a ton of lawyers on Instagram. They've been
Speaker 4: breaking it down for me and they're like, so this
Speaker 4: is like not all of this stuff is We're one hundred.
Speaker 4: We don't know the source of where these texts came
Speaker 4: from is kind of a mystery, Like how true is everything?
Speaker 4: And then like all the stuff playing out in the news.
Speaker 4: I like the judge I think yesterday was like, hey, guys,
Speaker 4: if I keep seeing stuff in the news, we're gonna
Speaker 4: have a real problem. Like this has got to stop.
Speaker 3: Let me just ask a question.
Speaker 2: Did the judge say the gag order does not there's
Speaker 2: no such thing as a gag order in this situation.
Speaker 3: You can't gag you. Is that what happened?
Speaker 4: I think what he was just saying is he called
Speaker 4: both sides of lawyers to the bench and was essentially like,
Speaker 4: you guys cannot keep leaking stuff too. So I don't
Speaker 4: think there. I'm not sure there's an official gag order
Speaker 4: or not, but he's definitely displeased that all of this
Speaker 4: was playing out when it's an active court case.
Speaker 1: What's bizarre is that. I mean, it's just so a
Speaker 1: lot of this stuff happens all the time in Hollywood,
Speaker 1: but the fact that everyone's got receipts, it's so crazy. Yeah, crazy, dude.
Speaker 3: The receipts are the.
Speaker 1: Receipts are flowing like a river.
Speaker 3: Holy cow. It's like that thing.
Speaker 2: You remember that little typewriter that you had as a kid,
Speaker 2: the money counter thing, and you will pretend you were
Speaker 2: an accountant or she just kept coming out. The paper
Speaker 2: just kept coming out. That's what the receipts are like.
Speaker 1: Right, I love that thing. I love that CALCULI I
Speaker 1: was a cashier at the supermarket.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what the receipts.
Speaker 1: To get one of those on eBay for no reason,
Speaker 1: just to.
Speaker 4: Have you guys just keep in business.
Speaker 5: Holy cow.
Speaker 4: Do you have Katie here when you are ready?
Speaker 1: I can't let her in, but I again, we don't
Speaker 1: know anything, audience, but it is a fascinating story, and.
Speaker 3: We don't want to be involved either.
Speaker 1: We don't do not want to be involved like Cads.
Speaker 1: I'm not doing a deep dive like Candae owns. Candace
Speaker 1: Owes has pivoted to full time investigator of this story.
Speaker 1: I found myself about to be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: am I going to click on a Candace Owens video?
Speaker 1: I was like, you cannot. I was curious about what
Speaker 1: she had to say.
Speaker 4: Let me AlCl rhythm please.
Speaker 1: Joelle for real. I was like, I don't want my
Speaker 1: algorithm to go down to the Candice Owen's wormhole. But
Speaker 1: I was curious about her thoughts on the issue. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because told me that, uh that she's gone all in.
Speaker 4: It looks to the lifetime movie when all of this
Speaker 4: is a result.
Speaker 1: Uh oh yeah, I want to I want to play
Speaker 1: justice is it?
Speaker 2: Isn't Michael Moore doing a freaking uh a documentary on it?
Speaker 1: Is that his name Michael?
Speaker 4: That would be wild?
Speaker 1: What Michael Moore like social issues? He's not.
Speaker 3: This is a social issue.
Speaker 1: It's a issue. It's a Hollywood he said. She said,
Speaker 1: it says took over a movie and socially everyone is more.
Speaker 1: Michael Moore does who fucking took down Michigan? Literally Andy Wire?
Speaker 4: Michael Moore teases what something and may have to do
Speaker 4: with the lively Aboutdony legal dispute. This is according to
Speaker 4: Indy Wire, which I trust them.
Speaker 1: That Donald I'm sorry, but it's not a social issue.
Speaker 1: But that is crazy that he's doing. Why is Michael
Speaker 1: Moore doing a story about this?
Speaker 3: Because everyone is invested. Everyone wants to everyone.
Speaker 6: Too.
Speaker 4: I don't care if you think about the me Too.
Speaker 4: Movie's really interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm the opposite of Daniel. I am very invested because
Speaker 1: that people are invested. Listen, I just want to say,
Speaker 1: because this a lot of this stuff happens behind the
Speaker 1: scenes and people never see it, and people in Hollywood
Speaker 1: swallow it and they bury it and it never gets discussed.
Speaker 1: And because this is so public, and because both parties
Speaker 1: have such lengthy receipts, it is kind of fascinating. It's
Speaker 1: horrible for all the people involved having their dirty laundry aired,
Speaker 1: but it is sort of fascinating to everyone because this happened.
Speaker 1: This kind of bullshit in Shenanigan happens all the time.
Speaker 3: This is like the O J.
Speaker 2: Troud, This is like the Menindez trials. This is like
Speaker 2: freaking uh without murder. Somebody somebody's character is gonna get
Speaker 2: murdered at the end of this. Somebody's going down. Somebody
Speaker 2: there's a winner and a loser. It's got to be
Speaker 2: It's not nobody. It's not gonna be Hey, you know what,
Speaker 2: you both are right, We're gonna separate it one. Somebody's
Speaker 2: going down. I don't know who it is, but somebody's
Speaker 2: got to take the fall for how.
Speaker 1: About the whole like, how about the whole side quest
Speaker 1: of fucking the allegation that that that nice Pool is
Speaker 1: based on Justin and.
Speaker 4: It's like at dis a Justin Planet, it's so funny.
Speaker 1: And that, And then in the credits for for Deadpool,
Speaker 1: what did they do?
Speaker 4: They Ryan has a character who he called like he's
Speaker 4: played in another movie that was his twin. It's like,
Speaker 4: oh no, it was for any one of you know.
Speaker 4: Ryan's big thing is that he partners with brands to
Speaker 4: release different commercials that are timely, ineffective and like whatever's
Speaker 4: in the zeitgeist in the moment. So at one point
Speaker 4: he was interviewing himself and his twin was named like
Speaker 4: greg or something, and they gave a thank you credit
Speaker 4: to Greg in the at the end of the Deadpool thing,
Speaker 4: and people think that that's like Greg was playing nice
Speaker 4: Pool and nice Pool is like it's supposed to be
Speaker 4: a reference to Justin Boldoonney. I don't know if any
Speaker 4: of this is true, but these are the theories people
Speaker 4: have come up with online.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because nice Pool. I didn't see the movie, but
Speaker 1: nice Pool apparently like says like, I'm I have a
Speaker 1: podcast on women's issues and he's got a man bun
Speaker 1: like Justin.
Speaker 4: This is one of those things that he should have
Speaker 4: just swallowed though, because that's like man bun has a podcast.
Speaker 4: It's so broad, but you're bringing it up and being
Speaker 4: like that's me makes people go hmmm, hit dog hollering.
Speaker 4: Maybe what's going on a lot of questions.
Speaker 2: All I'm saying is there's gonna be a winner and
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a loser. It's not gonna be.
Speaker 4: She's got more money than God and a following think.
Speaker 1: So Joelle, I don't think she's winning currently in the zeitgeist,
Speaker 1: in the in the public court of public opinion.
Speaker 4: She'll go through the same thing all women do, which is,
Speaker 4: once you're accused, a whole bunch of people will be like,
Speaker 4: we believe she's awful and we hate her. And and
Speaker 4: she had her wedding at like on a plantation. It's awful,
Speaker 4: but she is Ryan Reynolds money behind her. She was
Speaker 4: again more money than God. Justin Valdi doesn't have any
Speaker 4: of that, and enough people will.
Speaker 1: On a plantation.
Speaker 4: She sure did. She did, And that's why black women
Speaker 4: do not like Blake.
Speaker 1: What was the theme?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I kind of not really, It's like, oh, Antebellum,
Speaker 4: classy kind of vibes, and it's.
Speaker 2: Like girls them blade them blade the lady Anabellum changed
Speaker 2: the name because lady and because Annabellum is not it
Speaker 2: is not appropriate.
Speaker 1: All right. We can talk forever about all these fun issues,
Speaker 1: but I think we should We shouldn't fight our guests.
Speaker 1: In Donald that about sure we made about a bunch of.
Speaker 5: I said, he's so.
Speaker 6: Yea yeah, my k. How are you welco?
Speaker 1: I was just thinking about how many things I have
Speaker 1: to ask you. I don't even know where to begin.
Speaker 2: The last time I saw Joshua Raiding concert?
Speaker 1: Is that the last time you saw Katie Lows?
Speaker 3: Yes, it is.
Speaker 7: I love Joshua Raiding, God, I love him.
Speaker 5: He I mean, my husband likes him. I really like him.
Speaker 5: But my husband's like, I think my husband would leave
Speaker 5: me for Joshua Raid And that's how much my man.
Speaker 7: That man's sweet sweet vocals really enticed my husband.
Speaker 3: Your husband is a man of Whisper Rock.
Speaker 2: I remember the sound, and I.
Speaker 5: Wait, there's one other guy in the Whisper Rock. What
Speaker 5: is his name?
Speaker 1: Oh god? Here Harry Brothers.
Speaker 5: Oh and Adam loves Carrie Brothers more dating, he loves him.
Speaker 5: But there's one more.
Speaker 7: Oh god, oh god, I want to text him so bad.
Speaker 7: Oh god, it's like an interesting name. He's in the
Speaker 7: Josh Rayden Crew. It was my tenth wedding anniversary. We
Speaker 7: were a napa. The guy saying it's a whisper I
Speaker 7: mean it's like like you can't even.
Speaker 5: Clink a glass, like in the ball when you're listening.
Speaker 5: It's horrific. I mean, it's like scary.
Speaker 1: Even when Josh comes on the podcast, he takes on
Speaker 1: this character voice that is not really how he talks
Speaker 1: in real life, but he plays this guy. He's like,
Speaker 1: it just has everybody so nice. Whisper Rock is so wonderful.
Speaker 3: It's so nice to be here.
Speaker 1: Just to be here.
Speaker 7: I think he's going to be the sing like he
Speaker 7: Because of that, I feel like we'll be singing till
Speaker 7: he's like a hundred right, Like I feel like I've
Speaker 7: yelled so much of my life, and I feel like
Speaker 7: my voice is already just tracked.
Speaker 1: Well, you have a really good voice. Let's start off
Speaker 1: talking about you, our guest.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, let's talk about it.
Speaker 1: You're in one of my favorite musicals, Waitress. I love Waitress.
Speaker 1: I have a very special place in my heart for Waitress. Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: I love sar Moelis more than anything. And be Nick Cordero,
Speaker 1: our friend that we lost was was in the original
Speaker 1: cast and I saw the show so many times with
Speaker 1: many different actresses. But you and and your husband did
Speaker 1: it together. How cute is that?
Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, we yeah, it was kind.
Speaker 1: Of you were Dawn.
Speaker 7: I assume I was down, you know, the me and
Speaker 7: Adam were the side comedy reliefs.
Speaker 5: Which to next where.
Speaker 1: Christ Fitzgerald played Adam's original party and I love that
Speaker 1: party comes in and he steals the whole show.
Speaker 7: Oh, the show literally stops halfway through. His character has
Speaker 7: a big number that stops the plot.
Speaker 5: Everyone's up on their feet.
Speaker 7: Because it's comedic, musical theater Gene. But Sarah Burrellas was
Speaker 7: a friend of Adam's for a long time. You know,
Speaker 7: we would go see her at Hotel cafe with like
Speaker 7: twenty people at the beginning of her career and.
Speaker 5: Yes, and she was such a superstar.
Speaker 7: And one morning we had a seven month old baby,
Speaker 7: we got a text from her that was like, how
Speaker 7: would you guys like to make your Broadway debuts together?
Speaker 7: And that is so cute and we were like, wait, wait, wait,
Speaker 7: hold on a second. Then fear sets in. I can't
Speaker 7: do it. I'm terrified.
Speaker 5: What are we doing?
Speaker 7: And we were also fans of the musical too, because
Speaker 7: we were friends with Sarah and had watched it a
Speaker 7: million times because she wrote it and then she starred
Speaker 7: in it.
Speaker 1: So we By the way, for those of you who
Speaker 1: don't know the show, this couple is the epicenter of
Speaker 1: the comic relief. I mean, everyone's got jokes, but this
Speaker 1: couple that they play is the are the silliest and
Speaker 1: the funniest and.
Speaker 5: We get married eight times a week in the show.
Speaker 3: That's the other thing.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so that's cute. But so after she said would
Speaker 7: you be into it?
Speaker 5: Then we had to audition a million times, which was.
Speaker 1: Wait, why she offered you the part of then said
Speaker 1: would you be lean the audition?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 5: Well, she was like, would you want to do it?
Speaker 7: We were like, yes, we would move to New York
Speaker 7: tomorrow with our baby.
Speaker 5: We'd figure it out. And but then she was like,
Speaker 5: but can you hack it? I mean, this is.
Speaker 7: Broadway people, This is the hardest am I left a
Speaker 7: curse on this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can say shit, oh god, oh don't say fuck.
Speaker 1: We just don't say fuck.
Speaker 7: It was the hardest ship I have ever done. I
Speaker 7: so when you we auditioned a bunch of times. We
Speaker 7: had to send in a bunch of tapes. And I
Speaker 7: can sing the shit out of that Dawn solo one time.
Speaker 7: I can do it once and then I can't talk
Speaker 7: for two weeks.
Speaker 5: So I sold it.
Speaker 7: We booked the parts within seven days, we'd moved to
Speaker 7: New York, and in fourteen days we opened on Broadway.
Speaker 5: That's the amount of rehearsal you get.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I got goosebumps.
Speaker 3: It well.
Speaker 7: I cried every day I thought I couldn't do it.
Speaker 7: Thank God for my husband was like, just give it
Speaker 7: one more day, Just give it one more day, Just
Speaker 7: give it one more day.
Speaker 5: I think we got I know, I know, you guys.
Speaker 1: Are such a cute couple. It really is nauseating.
Speaker 5: It's nauseating.
Speaker 2: I had to sit them at the Joshua Raiding concert that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, weere, they probably are probably can noodling and rubbing noses.
Speaker 7: No, we as sadly asn't into PDAs at all. I
Speaker 7: ask them all the time. I'm like, can you hold
Speaker 7: my hand? Can you like kiss my neck? Like any
Speaker 7: of the ship from the beginning, we're so we're like
Speaker 7: old bickering.
Speaker 2: You guys have touched at the hip. You might not
Speaker 2: have been like all over each other, but you got
Speaker 2: pretty like, eh, this is my person.
Speaker 1: I wait, go back to the story. Go back to
Speaker 1: this story, because I I I I love Holy shit,
Speaker 1: I am about to open on Broadway and I'm not ready,
Speaker 1: and it was I was not ready.
Speaker 7: I've never run it. I'd never run it. I mean
Speaker 7: when they when you do, see Okay. My understanding is
Speaker 7: if you originate a Broadway character, which I've never done,
Speaker 7: you get a ton of rehearsal, there's workshops, there's notes
Speaker 7: in all this. But if you're a pudd in, which
Speaker 7: is what we were, you get just put into people
Speaker 7: who came out of a show that already works, that's
Speaker 7: up and running.
Speaker 1: So explain to people that don't know theater at all, Yeah,
Speaker 1: what are your When do you rehearse on your own?
Speaker 1: Of course, and you rehearse with the musical director, but
Speaker 1: when are you rehearsing with the cast before you go
Speaker 1: live in from an audience?
Speaker 7: You rehearse with the understudies for about a week in
Speaker 7: change before and then you rehearse with the stage manager
Speaker 7: who's sort of playing like fifteen roles, which is just
Speaker 7: on in a rehearsal studio that's just taped out the
Speaker 7: size of the stage. And then you get one put
Speaker 7: in rehearsal the day of your opening on a moving
Speaker 7: set that has revolving floors. You've never done it with
Speaker 7: the real cast. I'd never done it with the band.
Speaker 5: Nothing.
Speaker 1: Wait, I'm getting so nervous. You did this? You get
Speaker 1: what did you ever rehearse with the band before you
Speaker 1: went on the stage that day?
Speaker 7: You get one put in rehearsal with the band on
Speaker 7: the stage with all the real props, with the cast
Speaker 7: one and then you do it that night And I
Speaker 7: can remember standing backstage, I had a seven month old baby,
Speaker 7: and I was saying, this might be TMI, but my
Speaker 7: mantra was, you pushed a baby out of your vagina,
Speaker 7: you could do this.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Like I just was like.
Speaker 7: I already face Yeah, I had already faced my biggest fear,
Speaker 7: which was birthing a person and like surviving to tell
Speaker 7: the story. And that was already scary enough from like
Speaker 7: those seventh grade health videos of what birth looks like.
Speaker 7: But anyway, I survived that, and I was like, then
Speaker 7: I can do this. But actually this was worse. This
Speaker 7: was worse than birth. This was worse.
Speaker 1: This was Wait, when you when you're in the pocket
Speaker 1: and you're feeling it and you're getting laughs, do you
Speaker 1: start to get confident.
Speaker 7: As soon as as soon as you guys know you're
Speaker 7: such gamer.
Speaker 1: We've both done theater, and I can say for me,
Speaker 1: every single show, I was nervous until I got a
Speaker 1: first laugh, and then I'd be like, Okay, they're with me.
Speaker 2: Now, that's how you that's how you knew that how
Speaker 2: the night was gonna go if I got you know,
Speaker 2: I remember I opened up a play with the first
Speaker 2: line and.
Speaker 3: The nights that I didn't get to laugh and there wasn't.
Speaker 3: There wasn't a lot of them. There wasn't.
Speaker 5: Oh god, that's because you're a genius.
Speaker 2: But few but the one, two, three, four times that
Speaker 2: I didn't, Oh my god, I knew right there now
Speaker 2: this is going to be a long fucking good this
Speaker 2: is going to be a long night.
Speaker 7: There's nothing like like, I'm such a I didn't know
Speaker 7: I was ever going to do TV and film, like I.
Speaker 7: I grew up in New York, like my mother talks
Speaker 7: like this, I grew up in Ozone Park, Queens like
Speaker 7: I just thought I was going to be a Broadway kid,
Speaker 7: come hell of high water. Like I remember my mother
Speaker 7: being like, you should take drivers ed and I was like, why,
Speaker 7: I'm going to live in New York forever. I'm never
Speaker 7: going to fucking drive a car. It doesn't matter. And
Speaker 7: by twenty four now in New York, I was so
Speaker 7: over waiting tables, and I had done off Broadway, you know,
Speaker 7: off Broadway for two hundred and fifty dollars a week,
Speaker 7: a million times over. And then someone was like, I
Speaker 7: think you should try LA for three months, and I
Speaker 7: did and told my parents I'd be home in three months.
Speaker 5: And then I just never went home, I met my husband.
Speaker 7: Right you know, you start getting I didn't get anything
Speaker 7: right away.
Speaker 5: I waitressed here too forever. You guys were would you?
Speaker 5: Were you guys regulars at Ammo? I feel like I
Speaker 5: must have waited on you.
Speaker 3: Where's AMMO at?
Speaker 7: Amma was on Highland just north of Santa Monica Boulevard.
Speaker 5: It was a.
Speaker 1: Big Now it's salts Care.
Speaker 5: That's exactly right, Zach, because.
Speaker 1: I'm an investor in Saltz Care, so I know exactly
Speaker 1: where AMMO is.
Speaker 5: Okay, So AMMA was like I.
Speaker 1: Actually never really went there, but I know maybe once
Speaker 1: or twice, but I remember it was a hotspot.
Speaker 7: It was a big power hour lunch, like producers and
Speaker 7: you know, directors and people would meet there because Highland
Speaker 7: was in between studios in the valley and studios and how.
Speaker 1: Coming from Paramount, it was perfect exactly.
Speaker 5: So I waited there forever.
Speaker 7: But you know, I kept getting like, oh, you're testing,
Speaker 7: you're testing, and so it felt like if I went
Speaker 7: home to New York, like I was quitting or something.
Speaker 7: But theater is always going to be my it's my love.
Speaker 7: But to bring it back around, there's nothing more than
Speaker 7: every time I sign up to do a play on
Speaker 7: backstage every night, every performance, saying why did I do
Speaker 7: this to myself? Why would I put myself through this?
Speaker 7: This is insane? Why would I put myself out there
Speaker 7: to be judged by people?
Speaker 1: And with seven thirty, Right in seven thirty, you hear
Speaker 1: this is your half hour call. This is your half
Speaker 1: hour call, and right then you're like, why did I
Speaker 1: sign up for this?
Speaker 2: I just I just remember when they when that call
Speaker 2: would come out, this is the half hour call.
Speaker 3: I would take the script out and.
Speaker 2: Go over every fucking line or at speed through the
Speaker 2: whole fucking thing, because I did not want to forget anything.
Speaker 3: Let me just go through this ship one more time,
Speaker 3: just to make sure.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even I've done on so many performances.
Speaker 2: So many I don't want to mess up. I don't
Speaker 2: want to lose, you know what I mean? I remember
Speaker 2: that speaking of uh being what did you call the
Speaker 2: term being a put in?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Put in? I never heard that, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the first time I ever heard of that.
Speaker 2: We had an understudy on the We had a bunch
Speaker 2: of understudies, and we never I never met the understudies ever.
Speaker 2: I think we met them once, right, and we never
Speaker 2: rehearsed with them or anything. And this guy, it's crazy,
Speaker 2: this guy marcelle Spears, who's now on the neighborhood. He
Speaker 2: played this character in the play called Slenderman. It was
Speaker 2: we were doing Picasso the Lapanagile. We played Slenderman. And
Speaker 2: it's the hardest part in the show because you have
Speaker 2: to come in for one scene and kill it and
Speaker 2: then are off stage. Hardest part in the show, and
Speaker 2: everybody wants to do that part because it's also the.
Speaker 3: Funniest part in the show too.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 2: The understudy comes in and we've never rehearsed with the understudy.
Speaker 2: Marcel's in, Marcel's in La testing for the neighborhood or
Speaker 2: some shit like that, or one of this shows. No,
Speaker 2: he did a show with evet Nicole Brown before that.
Speaker 2: The understudy comes in and he has too we now
Speaker 2: know he has two nights. The first night it's not
Speaker 2: the same, dude, it's not the same at all, Like
Speaker 2: it's it's just dead. The audience doesn't laugh or any.
Speaker 8: Oh no, no, my god, and Marcel gets Marcel walks
Speaker 8: off stage and gets standing ovations, you know what I mean,
Speaker 8: Like that's how good he was in this this dude
Speaker 8: comes in and leaves.
Speaker 2: Hal Lindon has the line after Slenderman leaves, he goes,
Speaker 2: what the hell was that? And that was the biggest
Speaker 2: laugh that that line ever got. Oh my god, just
Speaker 2: because so bad, so bad?
Speaker 5: Oh God.
Speaker 2: Now granted, the second night, the kid redeems himself. He
Speaker 2: gets applause when he leaves, and you know, it was great,
Speaker 2: But the first night it was, it was.
Speaker 1: Well, it's such a big ask to go on stage.
Speaker 1: I mean, an understudy has such a hard task because
Speaker 1: they haven't done it. And they haven't you know, an
Speaker 1: actor gets an actor who has the part, gets to
Speaker 1: rehearse it, gets to.
Speaker 5: Figure chemistry with the people, like, oh god, did you
Speaker 5: guys get to the point. I got to the point.
Speaker 7: I have to say, though, like I couldn't do it now,
Speaker 7: but when Adam and I got it, and like I said,
Speaker 7: I could only sing the song once. So when we
Speaker 7: first started doing it, I honestly didn't know if I
Speaker 7: could do eight shows a week. And I remember like
Speaker 7: we were we were every morning like like just using
Speaker 7: like sign language hands for everything to save your voice.
Speaker 7: We weren't going out to any restaurants in New York
Speaker 7: that were loud with friends who would come to see
Speaker 7: the show, like absolutely not.
Speaker 5: It was all about saving voice.
Speaker 7: And I can remember I was paying this Broadway voice
Speaker 7: coach ajillion dollars to keep my voice in check and
Speaker 7: all this, and then I come into my dressing room
Speaker 7: the first night and I have a personal nebulizer and
Speaker 7: a scarf around my I mean, I am I am
Speaker 7: playing the I mean, I am really doing this. And
Speaker 7: I said to her, Oh, okay, this is my vocal
Speaker 7: warm up. Like we're sharing a dressing room. I don't
Speaker 7: know what private space you need, but like this is
Speaker 7: my like no.
Speaker 5: No, no, no no no, like.
Speaker 7: Like doing all my stuff. And I was like, what's
Speaker 7: your warm up? So I give you space? And this
Speaker 7: is an amazing actress, Tony nominated, like Retha Franklin. Voice
Speaker 7: incredible And she just looks at me and she was like,
Speaker 7: I drink a PEPSI that's her one.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: And I was like, oh my god, I am fucked.
Speaker 7: Like I can't do this.
Speaker 3: I can't do this.
Speaker 1: Who is who is the lead? Jenna?
Speaker 5: Jenna?
Speaker 1: Who did it?
Speaker 7: We started with Kat McFee, which was wonderful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I love He's perfect for it. By the way
Speaker 1: I almost I almost was. Do you know that I
Speaker 1: almost did the part with Kat McFee? Why did you
Speaker 1: he may have been in the show together. You know
Speaker 1: what happened. I got cold feet because I Saron knew
Speaker 1: how much I love the show, and she eventually and
Speaker 1: I'm daydream about dream daydreaming about it to everyone.
Speaker 5: You would have been amazing.
Speaker 1: I made it known that it was my daydream. But
Speaker 1: you know what, I got cold feet because Drew Gailing
Speaker 1: has the most insane voice, and he originated the role.
Speaker 1: And I listened to the soundtrack and I'm like, I
Speaker 1: just I would feel And I even said to Sarah,
Speaker 1: I said, I can't sing like Drew. I can carry
Speaker 1: a tune. She goes, It's okay, we'll make it. We'll
Speaker 1: make it fit for you. And I was like, I know,
Speaker 1: but the audience who's listened to the soundtrack and heard
Speaker 1: Drew fucking Gailing, they're expecting like runs and harmonies and
Speaker 1: all this stuff that it's just I can't sing like that.
Speaker 5: And I loved you would have found others listen.
Speaker 1: I would have found other stuff and I would have
Speaker 1: made them laugh with my own thing. But I just
Speaker 1: got in my head about about again. I'm not, I'm not.
Speaker 1: This isn't false humility. I can carry a tune, but
Speaker 1: Drew has a preposterous voice, and I just kind of
Speaker 1: got in my head about it and I didn't.
Speaker 2: That's like, that's like me saying, yo, you know what.
Speaker 2: I always wanted to play Alphaba after after the seam.
Speaker 1: Actually, Donald has I would love for once in his
Speaker 1: life for Donald to do a Broadway musical because he
Speaker 1: legit has a holy ship voice. I didn't only singing
Speaker 1: these t mobile ads. We oh you know Clugman. Of
Speaker 1: course we sing these ads. And then then they're like,
Speaker 1: all right, Donald, would you mind laying down like seven harmonies?
Speaker 1: And he does it. Donald comes up with the harmonies
Speaker 1: with them, does them, and then I go to it singing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, do you guys want me to lay down
Speaker 1: any harmonies?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: No, No, we're good. Thank you.
Speaker 5: Were you a singer? Donald? Like you sing?
Speaker 2: I was in a band when I was a kid,
Speaker 2: and you know, I grew up in musical theater at
Speaker 2: the National Black Theater and horror ship like that, and
Speaker 2: so my parents performed all the time, and that was
Speaker 2: our thing. We used to you know, you remember vacation
Speaker 2: when they're on the road singing the Marty Moose song
Speaker 2: or the.
Speaker 3: Wally World song.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so you just sang all the time. Oh, I
Speaker 5: love that.
Speaker 7: I have to say, I hope I get like I
Speaker 7: would love to do it again because now, like I
Speaker 7: have to say, by the end of it, like how
Speaker 7: we started being so careful and freaked out. By the end,
Speaker 7: I was like the rest of the bitches and the
Speaker 7: chorus that was like I was out at all the restaurants,
Speaker 7: so four o'clock nor I was smoking cigar, I.
Speaker 5: Was drinking, I wasn't warming up. I didn't give a shit,
Speaker 5: Like it.
Speaker 7: Was so great because when you finally have done one
Speaker 7: hundred and seventy five or two hundred and.
Speaker 5: Fifty shows what happens to.
Speaker 7: Your body and your chords is like it's like if
Speaker 7: you did a hundred crunches every day, like obviously you
Speaker 7: just get stronger and stronger. And I did my I
Speaker 7: could just do it. I could just do it. I
Speaker 7: could talk all night the night before gas bagging, blah
Speaker 7: blah blah. So now that I know that, that's the thing,
Speaker 7: I feel like if I ever got the opportunity to
Speaker 7: do it again, and I would have a better time.
Speaker 1: That's you can't do. I mean to me, like half
Speaker 1: the fun of doing a Broadway show is the fun
Speaker 1: you have after and going out with friends and all
Speaker 1: the enjoying New York City together.
Speaker 7: That's where I saw. I saw you at Bar Centrall
Speaker 7: Zach or is it bars and Trolley? I don't even
Speaker 7: know how you say whichever.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one of my haunts.
Speaker 5: That's my one haunts. My one of my haunts as well.
Speaker 7: I was just coming off of I do like a
Speaker 7: Broadway two weeks every year week I go see like every.
Speaker 5: Show I try.
Speaker 7: And I was coming off of Stereophonic, and you were
Speaker 7: coming off of Inappropriate I think, or you had seen
Speaker 7: Inappropriate the night before we.
Speaker 5: Were on it. We were on the same.
Speaker 7: Tray, we were cragging about. We were at Bar Centrall,
Speaker 7: we were with casts. We were drinking the drinks. I'm
Speaker 7: having my Negronie, I'm having my.
Speaker 2: Fris collection the gronies too. You guys went away back
Speaker 2: home to New York, to the Tri State area, and
Speaker 2: somebody said, you know what you need to drink is
Speaker 2: a motherfucking the GRONI and.
Speaker 3: All y'allm up, y'all. Oh you Broadway types. I'm having
Speaker 3: to Gronie, Oh, I love.
Speaker 1: I want to say, our friend Preston Boyd. You know
Speaker 1: Preston Boyd?
Speaker 5: No, who's that.
Speaker 1: He's our friend And he has the most insane voice
Speaker 1: of anybody I know. And he was He just did
Speaker 1: the Leyman's tour as Javert.
Speaker 5: Wow.
Speaker 1: And I said to him thing about I said, do
Speaker 1: you ever want to play Jean Valjean because he has
Speaker 1: the voice to do it? And he goes, no, I
Speaker 1: mean the guy who plays Jean Valjean. I mean, he
Speaker 1: really can't go out. He can't do anything. He's got
Speaker 1: to be like he's like, he's like, he's like he's
Speaker 1: got to go home. He's got to do all this
Speaker 1: shit you're talking about nebulizers and los andes. He's like,
Speaker 1: I want to go have fun, So like i'd better
Speaker 1: play Javert. Yeah.
Speaker 7: I agree that they also have all these like what
Speaker 7: I loved about it too, they have all these people,
Speaker 7: like they have the like Broadway doctor that comes and
Speaker 7: shoots you up with steroids when you lose your voice.
Speaker 7: They have the Broadway doctor that stops by and shoots
Speaker 7: B twelve shots, like and everyone's asked to get through
Speaker 7: a five show weekend. You're really like part of a
Speaker 7: whole whole system of insanity.
Speaker 1: But singing with a band, I mean, how fun. I
Speaker 1: mean I did Bullet of a Broadway and well it
Speaker 1: was great. We had a twenty five piece orchestra, I mean,
Speaker 1: and it was just like it was one of the
Speaker 1: highest highs of my life.
Speaker 7: Oh, I love that, guys. We should do Waitress in
Speaker 7: La starring us. Let's check Sarah brellas right now. We
Speaker 7: could just do like a four limited show engagement.
Speaker 1: Donald could sing the Doctor Palmerer part like a motherfucker.
Speaker 1: We should do that because I remember McPhee was who
Speaker 1: they were thinking I was going to be opposite of,
Speaker 1: and then who came on after mci.
Speaker 5: Then we had Nicolette Robinson. Oh, yes, I know her,
Speaker 5: who is amazing and married her Donald.
Speaker 1: Oh, she has an insane voice and she's married.
Speaker 5: To Leslie Odom Junior.
Speaker 1: Leslie Odom Junior.
Speaker 2: So when there was a Smash, it was like a
Speaker 2: Smash reunion.
Speaker 5: Are you into Smash?
Speaker 1: Oh? We both love Smash.
Speaker 3: You went to Smash.
Speaker 5: I'm the most into Smash, you know.
Speaker 1: When I went and did a Broadway show. But I
Speaker 1: went and when I went and did a Broadway show,
Speaker 1: I was so into Smash And I went to like
Speaker 1: all the all the dancers and everyone saying, so are
Speaker 1: you guys watching Smash? And They're like, no, what the
Speaker 1: fuck are you talking about? And I was like, I
Speaker 1: was so geeked to talk Smash with.
Speaker 2: I ran up, I ran up on the guy from
Speaker 2: the dude that what's the guy that dates?
Speaker 7: Uh?
Speaker 3: Why am I forgetting names? Right now?
Speaker 7: If I Lexington fifty second Street, that's the one I
Speaker 7: always say.
Speaker 2: I love because history was made at night. Son turned
Speaker 2: out the nights and listen.
Speaker 1: Donald, you know the musical of the show, know.
Speaker 7: Can we.
Speaker 3: Did you know?
Speaker 1: You didn't know?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Smash? Smash the musical is set to open on Broadway.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, just starring my friend cast. It has a
Speaker 7: great cast, like solid, solid cast.
Speaker 5: We should all go.
Speaker 1: Who was playing McFee?
Speaker 7: Hold on, let's look this separation audition for McFee. You
Speaker 7: definitely should have. And I will never forget Smash on Broadway. Wait,
Speaker 7: hold on, I will never.
Speaker 1: Forget such a crush on her on that show.
Speaker 7: Oh she was the hottest of the hot are you
Speaker 7: she also is let me be stuff, come on like
Speaker 7: that was sanger. Well, I've embarrassed the ship out of
Speaker 7: myself and I'm gonna look up in one second. But
Speaker 7: when I I embarrassed myself when I I was at
Speaker 7: an upfront party and Leslie Odam Junior was there and
Speaker 7: this is pre Hamilton.
Speaker 5: Pre anything before he was a household name.
Speaker 7: Before any of this, and I went running up to
Speaker 7: him and I said, your work on smash is.
Speaker 1: Serious.
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 5: I was like, I was like, whatever.
Speaker 7: The drink before Nigrony was in New York, whatever it was,
Speaker 7: I was on it. And I was saying to him
Speaker 7: that my husband and I your words.
Speaker 5: Oh, I clutched my pearls.
Speaker 7: And I've seen him recently and we still talk about
Speaker 7: it and I still bring it up and he remembers it,
Speaker 7: and he was like he thought I was kind of joking.
Speaker 7: I think, but wait, okay, hold on this cast is
Speaker 7: it look? The photos look amazing. I think we should go.
Speaker 2: I think I just can't believe that it made it
Speaker 2: to Broadway. It's a great idea, dude, That's what the
Speaker 2: show is about.
Speaker 1: You. They're Broadway, They're not doing this. You're clear they're
Speaker 1: not doing the show within the show they're doing. They're
Speaker 1: doing the whole They're doing the idea of like a
Speaker 1: company trying to launch a musical.
Speaker 3: Yes, I know, I know that, but that was the
Speaker 3: when I first.
Speaker 1: Heard about it, I was like, Oh, I hope they're
Speaker 1: not just doing the show.
Speaker 7: Marilyn Monroe Chrystal Rodriguez, who was originally in the TV
Speaker 7: show too, and I've seen her in a million Broadway shows.
Speaker 7: She's in it too. She's playing Tracy. I don't remember
Speaker 7: anybody's names, but here's I remember when they made the
Speaker 7: Tea V show that the intention was that there was
Speaker 7: if it was a success, which it wasn't.
Speaker 5: Our hearts and minds.
Speaker 3: There were two seasons.
Speaker 1: Hey, we were the only three people watching it, We
Speaker 1: really were.
Speaker 7: But I thought the original idea was that it was
Speaker 7: supposed to always be a Broadway show too.
Speaker 1: Yeah am I, But back then it may have been
Speaker 1: that they were going to then launch the shows in
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 3: Right, But they didn't season right.
Speaker 2: Season two, they completely scrapped the show and it's no
Speaker 2: longer in existence.
Speaker 1: And these guys are a smash rewatch podcast.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, can I be a guest can I
Speaker 7: be there would.
Speaker 1: Be no audience of four of us would be the
Speaker 1: only audience.
Speaker 3: It would be.
Speaker 1: It would us and mcpee. Listen.
Speaker 2: The cast is so.
Speaker 5: Good that, like I on became stars the stars, Let
Speaker 5: me be your star.
Speaker 1: Do you know brook Know who's that Brooks hysterical Broadway
Speaker 1: character actor. He's very gay and very flamboyant, and he's
Speaker 1: fucking hilarious. And he's playing the director.
Speaker 4: I know who he is.
Speaker 7: Yes, he's playing the director in the musical.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's one aspect they've changed from the show. I
Speaker 1: texted him when there was a press release. I go,
Speaker 1: who are you playing? McPhee and he goes, no, I'm
Speaker 1: the director.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, I think it's gonna be.
Speaker 7: I mean, I'm impressed that they've gotten the funding and everything.
Speaker 7: I mean, to make a Broadway musical is so expensive.
Speaker 7: It's like so that somebody must believe that there's an audience.
Speaker 1: I will be seated, Katie Os, I will be seated.
Speaker 7: I will be as well like front. Okay, let's find
Speaker 7: out when it opens. But anyway, let's take a break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. All right,
Speaker 1: let's talk about other things since we only have you
Speaker 1: a limited time.
Speaker 5: Sorry, sorry, I can talk about Broadway.
Speaker 1: I have to admit something. I never watched Scandal, but
Speaker 1: I know that that was your big breakthrough.
Speaker 3: Yes, and I love on.
Speaker 1: Where I can contribute is that that Tony Goldwyn is
Speaker 1: one of my favorite people on the planet.
Speaker 9: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: And he's the nicest person I've ever met.
Speaker 4: That was my.
Speaker 5: That was my meet cute with you, if we can
Speaker 5: use that word.
Speaker 1: I remember bond over Tony Goldman.
Speaker 5: Yes, we were at Brian Klugman's beach shack.
Speaker 1: Yes, and we were Brian Clugman for those of you
Speaker 1: the audience, Just to remind you, he's our friend, but
Speaker 1: also the don draper of all things t Mobile. He
Speaker 1: writes all the tim Oblads and Katie knows him.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: I'd like to be an extra in the next spot
Speaker 7: you do. Thanks so much, Brian Klugman. Thanks for listening.
Speaker 5: Anyway.
Speaker 7: I love Brian Klugman. He has been a friend of
Speaker 7: my husband's for a million years. They grew up together
Speaker 7: in Philadelphia. They're big Eagles people and my husband.
Speaker 1: They're very excited because the Eagles are in those Super Bowl.
Speaker 5: Oh I haven't.
Speaker 7: My husband has a Philadelphia soft pretzel company called shape
Speaker 7: Be Pretzel.
Speaker 1: That wait, let's do that as an aside rule. Okay,
Speaker 1: because this story is fascinating.
Speaker 5: Sorry, So Tony, Yes, he's the best ever. And what
Speaker 5: I went up to I was like, I think.
Speaker 7: We're friends with the same person, Tony Goldwin, and we
Speaker 7: shared a sun set on the beach moment, just sharing
Speaker 7: our love fest of Tony Goldwin.
Speaker 5: Okay, shaffy pretzel, Okay, let's talk about shappy pretzels.
Speaker 1: Your husband created a hard pretzel because he loves them
Speaker 1: from Philadelphia, right, Yeah, and they and he couldn't find
Speaker 1: one that he thought was great out here. And it
Speaker 1: started during COVID, as I understand it, because he needed
Speaker 1: something to do, and it became very, very popular, so
Speaker 1: much so that now it's a very popular hard pretzel brand.
Speaker 5: Soft pretzel.
Speaker 1: But that's all right, I fucked up everything but the texture.
Speaker 5: Hey, it's totally cool. Yes.
Speaker 7: In COVID, we realized we had a young our son
Speaker 7: was probably two or three at the time. We were like, fuck,
Speaker 7: we're never getting back to Philly. You're never going to
Speaker 7: get a Philadelphia soft pretzel. My husband, we were bored
Speaker 7: out of our minds. He just everyone was doing sourdough.
Speaker 7: My husband was doing like every day figuring out how
Speaker 7: to perfect the art of making a Philadelphia soft pretzel
Speaker 7: in our oven.
Speaker 5: Every day.
Speaker 7: People from Philly are just driving up past our house
Speaker 7: and Adam's like, try it, try it, try it, try it.
Speaker 7: Four or five months go by and someone's like, holy shit,
Speaker 7: I think you've got it.
Speaker 1: He cracked it.
Speaker 5: He cracked it. And then I was hosting.
Speaker 7: I was standing in for Kelly Rippa when she goes
Speaker 7: on vacation, which I was doing a bunch of at
Speaker 7: that time with Seacrest, and we were shooting it in
Speaker 7: our living room because that's what everyone was doing over
Speaker 7: zoom at that time, and Seacrest was like, what's Adam
Speaker 7: been up to. I said, he's perfecting the art of
Speaker 7: making the Philadelphia soft pretzel.
Speaker 5: We sent him some the next day he ate them
Speaker 5: on air.
Speaker 7: Adam just said, Adam Shapiro is his name, but Shappie's
Speaker 7: been his nickname since Sleepway Camp when he's.
Speaker 5: Eight years old.
Speaker 7: But he just bought Shappy Pretzel at gmail dot com
Speaker 7: and Shappy Pretzel dot com and the only thing on
Speaker 7: the website was your mall's pretzel. Can go fuck itself
Speaker 7: and we have sold were the pretzels at the oscars
Speaker 7: underneath five thousand feet shat the we're it fucking so far.
Speaker 7: We're a pladium where it will turn shut and so
Speaker 7: we're we just realized that it's almost a five year
Speaker 7: old company. It's a total side hustle, but it exists.
Speaker 7: It's like Adam's worked a bunch acting since then. We
Speaker 7: have all these fucking pretzel employees. We've everyone knows where
Speaker 7: I live.
Speaker 1: People work for the company.
Speaker 5: We have nine employees.
Speaker 7: We have a shabby pretzel truck with my husband's face
Speaker 7: on the side of it, parked outside of our fucking house.
Speaker 5: So everyone knows where we.
Speaker 1: Everyone comes by story though, so where does the audience
Speaker 1: get them if they want to try?
Speaker 7: So We're on gold Belly so you can get them
Speaker 7: shipped around the entire country and like the order because
Speaker 7: when the Eagles make the Super Bowl, it is I mean,
Speaker 7: my husband has is not sleeping this week, like it's over,
Speaker 7: it's done.
Speaker 1: We have the wait. If I'm in anywhere in the country,
Speaker 1: I go to gold Belly.
Speaker 7: What's called goldbelly dot com is like where you can
Speaker 7: get any of your favorite foods that are only like
Speaker 7: local to serve play like if you're like I only
Speaker 7: like wings from this place, they might be on gold Belly.
Speaker 7: So gold Belly is it's like if you like a
Speaker 7: Russian daughter's bagel.
Speaker 1: You can go on a russ daughter's bagel a good example.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you're welcome. So now you can go on gold
Speaker 7: Belly and you can get it shipped to you. So
Speaker 7: all of his pretzels are shipped around the country. But
Speaker 7: also if you're in the LA area, which it's l
Speaker 7: a no no Philly Bourne, La bread is the long
Speaker 7: one because he's smart.
Speaker 1: But how do you spell shappy for those s h
Speaker 1: a p p y s h a p p y.
Speaker 1: So if you're in the LA Area, you can go
Speaker 1: to shappies.
Speaker 5: Shappy Pretzel dot com.
Speaker 7: We're out of canters, which is a legendary canters.
Speaker 1: To you speak like every girl I grew up with and.
Speaker 5: Im Long Island.
Speaker 1: You're reminding me, you're reminding me.
Speaker 3: Notice it's not Long Island, it's Long Island.
Speaker 5: Long Islands. That's right.
Speaker 1: The more you talk, the more I'm just reminiscent of
Speaker 1: like Hebrew School and oh yeah, j oh.
Speaker 7: Yeah, oh my god, I mean, I I was home
Speaker 7: in New York this weekend and I was like, oh god,
Speaker 7: this is like so crazy like my mother has. But anyway,
Speaker 7: so shappy Pretzel dot Com was a shappy Pretzel was
Speaker 7: a huge just crazy falling ass backwards into this other
Speaker 7: business that we now run.
Speaker 5: It's why it.
Speaker 1: Must be profitable. Are you making meaningful money off of them?
Speaker 3: I mean, I mean they're at the they're at the oscars.
Speaker 1: At the Oscars.
Speaker 5: You know, food business and perishable food is is you
Speaker 5: know what.
Speaker 7: It's not an act, it's not an acting producing directing,
Speaker 7: but it's you know what it provides in so many
Speaker 7: other ways.
Speaker 1: It's it's amazing. Listen. Why don't you go on Shark Tank.
Speaker 7: Know all the Shark Tank people well between us and
Speaker 7: everyone listening, just the people listening way beyond that and
Speaker 7: the sharks who we know in our Pretzel clients have
Speaker 7: told us that we are we don't need, like we're
Speaker 7: way beyond that.
Speaker 2: You're beyond Oh yeah yeah, hold on, hold on now,
Speaker 2: how about making some really good money we just.
Speaker 7: Don't need, Like we're not going to give up, Like
Speaker 7: we don't need to give up. We have so many
Speaker 7: people who want to invest because I want to invest.
Speaker 5: They love Philly there.
Speaker 7: Thank you call Adam. I'll give you his number. But anyway,
Speaker 7: I love it. But anyway, it's just we don't need it,
Speaker 7: like you know, people go on shark ting because they're
Speaker 7: from a small town and they don't have connections like
Speaker 7: you know Adam from Klugman.
Speaker 5: I mean Bradley Cooper and him.
Speaker 7: Text every day, like there's so many Philly people who
Speaker 7: are love the company.
Speaker 1: Right well, I want I want Bradley Shares before Bradley. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm off from Philly, but I would like to.
Speaker 5: But any way, New Jersey, which is close, but what.
Speaker 1: About I feel like, uh, you could beat that. What's
Speaker 1: that brand that's in every.
Speaker 5: Airport Annans or Wetsels.
Speaker 7: By the way, when I go to the Fashion Square
Speaker 7: Square mall here in the valley where we live, and
Speaker 7: my kids want What's which they no, no excuse me?
Speaker 7: And Annie Ans which I always want. They always want it.
Speaker 7: And my parents run into people that they want the
Speaker 7: little cinnamon nuggets. And whenever I run into people and
Speaker 7: we're holding those bags, people take pictures. They're like, look
Speaker 7: at you cheating on you likes you know, you.
Speaker 2: Know you know why your kids love that so much
Speaker 2: because of Marriam what Mariam did that.
Speaker 7: Donald and I also shared the most sacred mutual thing,
Speaker 7: which is our nanny who helped raise his babies, who
Speaker 7: helped raise my babies.
Speaker 5: I got after you got.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you, she left us and went to you is
Speaker 3: what happened?
Speaker 1: You didn't you didn't. And Miriam likes wetzels pretzels.
Speaker 3: Well, she would take the kids to the mall yeah
Speaker 3: and feed them.
Speaker 1: Freak has shoppies. Pretzels gone into the uh the the
Speaker 1: sweet world. Yet with cinnamon and sugar.
Speaker 7: Those are called little out which is my son's name.
Speaker 7: My son's name is Albi. He works with the Shappy Pretzel.
Speaker 7: He works at Shappy Pretzel on Saturdays. He gets two
Speaker 7: dollars an hour.
Speaker 1: He's so cut about gluten free. Gluten free. So here's
Speaker 1: the big those of us tummy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so here's the big reveal. There is not.
Speaker 7: However, I was diagnosed. Oh wow, this is really getting personal, guys, listens.
Speaker 7: I was diagnosed with I have no symptoms.
Speaker 5: It's silent, silent Celiac silence monny.
Speaker 7: Second, and I can no longer eat gluten for the
Speaker 7: rest of my life. My husband was in tears. He
Speaker 7: was like, I'm the You're my pretzel queen, and now
Speaker 7: he is being forced into figuring out how to deliver
Speaker 7: to me, to the Los Angeles community and the world
Speaker 7: a gluten free saw Philadelphia pretzel, which maybe, then, Zach,
Speaker 7: we might be billionaires if.
Speaker 4: We crack back.
Speaker 1: I got to tell you, listen, I'll be it. I
Speaker 1: love soft pretzels, but I do have a sense if
Speaker 1: I'm not chiliact, but I have a gluten sensitivity, and
Speaker 1: I could I could have a bite and be like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, but if I eat a whole one,
Speaker 1: I'd have stomach cramps.
Speaker 4: Sure.
Speaker 7: Well, so he's going to break it, and why don't
Speaker 7: you come will be the taste testers for the gluten
Speaker 7: free soft pretzel.
Speaker 5: I he's got to get through Eagles.
Speaker 1: They have to win, and then we need to move
Speaker 1: on to I didn't know that soft pretzels were of Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Think I'm sorry.
Speaker 5: I didn't really either.
Speaker 3: In New York, Yeah, Nathan's has a pretzel differently.
Speaker 7: There's the New York or Bavarian shaped, which is like
Speaker 7: the steals are Bavarian shaped, and the shappy the Philadelphia
Speaker 7: pretzels are more on their side and more long, and
Speaker 7: they're linked and you rip them apart. Okay, I know
Speaker 7: I'm gonna I'm going to show you guys, like so
Speaker 7: that you understand like what we're working with, because then
Speaker 7: you're going to realize.
Speaker 5: That every pretzel you've ever had is a piece of crap.
Speaker 5: That's what you need to know.
Speaker 7: You really haven't had what this looks like like they
Speaker 7: look like this connected. Can you see this?
Speaker 5: And you and you buy like.
Speaker 1: Four and you rip them apart and you put mustard
Speaker 1: on it, right you.
Speaker 7: Put we also have shabby pretzel mustard both golden and
Speaker 7: your mouth is.
Speaker 1: Water Mustard on my mouth is watering. Right now, It's.
Speaker 5: Really really been a weird, bizarre thing.
Speaker 1: But you know you do what about hot dog buns?
Speaker 5: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, we expand pretzels experience, Yeah.
Speaker 7: We do, and we have like we have I mean,
Speaker 7: look and also to be crazy, I know this is
Speaker 7: this is turning all into an Adam LoveFest. But and yay,
Speaker 7: scandal whatever, but I'm just saying, I Adam, I really
Speaker 7: Adam recurs on the bear and I and I think
Speaker 7: so much of that is because he's in this like
Speaker 7: food world now, like as was.
Speaker 1: The genesis of him getting that part. I mean, other
Speaker 1: than being a good actor.
Speaker 7: Well well we he auditioned, but they were so like
Speaker 7: into the pretzel phenomenon, and they were they have so
Speaker 7: many chefs around the show, and.
Speaker 5: You know, he's just really now like a foodie.
Speaker 7: He like travels and makes little social media videos tryings.
Speaker 7: He's got like a real snack. He never grew up
Speaker 7: from college trash snack food.
Speaker 5: It's what he specialized. So now he just like shoots
Speaker 5: all this content.
Speaker 7: But I really think a big part of the bear
Speaker 7: you know, they like having food food people around that have.
Speaker 5: Sort of like made a staple, and they really liked
Speaker 5: his I think it was a combo.
Speaker 7: I think it was the acting and I think it
Speaker 7: was also they were so blown away by his crazy story.
Speaker 1: Joels, did you watch Scandal? Because I don't want to
Speaker 1: give Scandal short shrift.
Speaker 4: I just don't know, yes, Scandal.
Speaker 1: Scandal related questions.
Speaker 7: I love Casey, Oh my god, I love her so
Speaker 7: much because Nicole Chavez, her best friend, is also my stylist.
Speaker 1: Yes, which is the show was hot and heavy, right,
Speaker 1: there was lots of sex.
Speaker 5: I had so much sex on that show.
Speaker 1: I was I ever jealous when you were having fake
Speaker 1: TV sex.
Speaker 7: You know, we get asked that a lot, and you know,
Speaker 7: when he married me, he felt like, oh shit, like
Speaker 7: I'm kind of falling for the girl that always has
Speaker 7: like a love story surrounding her and this is just
Speaker 7: going to be like a part of this.
Speaker 5: And he, you know, he doesn't really get that kind
Speaker 5: of part, but he actually has.
Speaker 4: He has now.
Speaker 5: He's just got to fucking close his eyes and deal
Speaker 5: with it. Man, I mean the check clears, you know,
Speaker 5: like get over it. I mean that's my job. And
Speaker 5: like it's fucking awkward anyway. He knows it. I know it,
Speaker 5: like I just you know, I think he was on
Speaker 5: that show. I was very lucky to be paired with a.
Speaker 7: Much older gentleman George Newburn that we love it as
Speaker 7: a dear friend, and he probably wasn't much threatened by
Speaker 7: although he's a very handsome catch for everybody listening, and
Speaker 7: he's actly married build. But my other lovengers on the
Speaker 7: show that I had dirty, dirty sex scenes with his
Speaker 7: Giermo Diaz.
Speaker 1: You're finished, okay, you know, so check this out.
Speaker 3: It's such a fucking small world. Not only did I
Speaker 3: have sex with him.
Speaker 9: No.
Speaker 3: Look, it's such a small world.
Speaker 2: So Guillermo and I did a short film back in
Speaker 2: the day before we were large call Busted with Lauren Hill,
Speaker 2: who went to high school with Zach Braff.
Speaker 3: The Circle, Circle of Love.
Speaker 5: That musical still holds on.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying New York, the Tri State area is
Speaker 2: well represented in this In this podcast today, I'm just
Speaker 2: put it out there.
Speaker 5: So we want Busted somewhere? Is it like somewhere to
Speaker 5: be seen?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you can watch Busted somewhere unless
Speaker 2: like my I think my mom owns it. But he
Speaker 2: played the usher of the movie theater where the crack
Speaker 2: head got with a crack dealer got busted.
Speaker 5: Perfect. Perfect, Let's take a break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back after these fine words. That so
Speaker 1: scandal was hot and heavy.
Speaker 5: And I got that. I was like, this was so insane.
Speaker 7: I actually posted it today because I think it's like
Speaker 7: it's the fourteen year anniversary. I think almost of the
Speaker 7: day of me auditioning for that part, but Shanda. What
Speaker 7: was crazy about it was that Shanda.
Speaker 5: Gave me the part I did.
Speaker 7: If I had had to test it for it, like
Speaker 7: I had everything else that came before it. There's no
Speaker 7: way in hell I would have gotten it. Like I'd
Speaker 7: already been in front of ABC eight thousand times.
Speaker 5: Nobody was interested, like always a bridesmaid, never a bride.
Speaker 7: I had gone in front of Shonda a bunch of
Speaker 7: times for and I'd been on Gray's Anatomy and Private
Speaker 7: Practice and guest Starret and things like that. But this
Speaker 7: role I auditioned. Once she told me to say it faster,
Speaker 7: I did. There was something on the show called scandal pace,
Speaker 7: which was like speaking as fast as humanly possible. I'm
Speaker 7: in New York or you're from New Jersey, we speak fast,
Speaker 7: sort of inherently, like that's just from cult.
Speaker 5: You know where we're from.
Speaker 7: But and then about a week later, they were like, okay,
Speaker 7: they're going to test you. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 7: here I go again, get a test, Probably won't get it.
Speaker 7: And they called me in for a test and I
Speaker 7: sat there and it was Shonda and Betsy Beers and
Speaker 7: Linda Lowie, the casting director, and casting associates and the
Speaker 7: director and they said, we want to bring you in.
Speaker 7: You're not going to have to read sides, and we
Speaker 7: wanted to let you know We're just going to give
Speaker 7: you the part what we brought nobody else in. We've
Speaker 7: showed your tape from your audition last week to the
Speaker 7: studio and network in Shonda told them that this is
Speaker 7: the only person she wants I ever.
Speaker 5: I was like, it was like American Idol, You're going
Speaker 5: to Hollywood, you know what I mean? When I sob.
Speaker 7: And the reason I know this is because they shot
Speaker 7: it and it's on the behind the scenes, you know,
Speaker 7: DVD stuff. And I posted it today because it's the
Speaker 7: fourteen years of my life being changed. I mean I
Speaker 7: was a babysitter and an assistant and a caterer and
Speaker 7: a bartender and a waitress and all the things. And
Speaker 7: I was twenty eight and I moved to LA at
Speaker 7: twenty five and everyone was like you old, Like what
Speaker 7: why did you do that?
Speaker 3: Like you should have.
Speaker 7: Come here way earlier, honey. And she just gave me
Speaker 7: the part and I cried and I said, what happens now?
Speaker 7: And she said, you're going to get a call about
Speaker 7: a table read And I was.
Speaker 5: Like, there's gonna be a table reader that. She was like,
Speaker 5: you're gonna have a fitting and.
Speaker 7: I was like, there's a fitting and then I asked
Speaker 7: if I can hug everybody, and then I hugged everybody,
Speaker 7: and then exactly, and then she was so kind to
Speaker 7: me that we shot the pilot and I she said,
Speaker 7: what are you going to do after we wrat this?
Speaker 7: And I said, I have to go back to my
Speaker 7: nannying job. I was nannying for this psycho family that
Speaker 7: was very progressive billionaires who didn't believe in diapers, and
Speaker 7: I had to hold their kid over a toilet bowl
Speaker 7: and make encouraging keeping sounds and they would poop.
Speaker 5: I mean, it was unbelievable. But I told her this story.
Speaker 5: She loved it, and she felt so bad about waiting
Speaker 5: to hear. She called me.
Speaker 7: She said, hey, listen, I'm just going to give you
Speaker 7: like a guest star in Gray's Anatomy to tide you over,
Speaker 7: you know, for.
Speaker 1: She loves you.
Speaker 5: Oh, She's changed my life. And also I had both.
Speaker 7: My baby like I had my first baby the last
Speaker 7: season of Scandal, I my next baby on Inventing Anna,
Speaker 7: which she cast me.
Speaker 5: You know, before we finished.
Speaker 1: I watched.
Speaker 7: I was there too, but she called me in before
Speaker 7: Scandal ended, and she liked the last season and she.
Speaker 5: You know, we're really really really close friends. And she
Speaker 5: just was like, do you want to have a family?
Speaker 5: And I was like, we're thinking about it. And she
Speaker 5: was like, I just want to let you know this
Speaker 5: is like probably going to be where we start ending
Speaker 5: scandal and if you want to do this on my watch,
Speaker 5: like I will take care I know how to do it,
Speaker 5: Like I will take care of you. I think you know.
Speaker 7: She just was like I can take care of women
Speaker 7: actresses who want to have a family and start a
Speaker 7: family life.
Speaker 5: And I went home and I told Adam, take off
Speaker 5: your pass.
Speaker 1: That's so hard. I get that bread so hard right now,
Speaker 1: Like we gotta.
Speaker 5: Go, man, it's go time. And she's been like an
Speaker 5: amazing friend ever since. And I I mean, she changed
Speaker 5: my life.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Oh it's crazy.
Speaker 1: What a great story and what a testament to what
Speaker 1: a good person she is. That she's like, I like you,
Speaker 1: I'm going to look out for you.
Speaker 2: If you want to look out for somebody else. Look,
Speaker 2: I know I got a name already.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm in her A couple of times.
Speaker 1: She's always been very sweet. Have you had a showrunner
Speaker 1: change your life? You too had a showrun or change
Speaker 1: your life.
Speaker 3: Yes, but yes, but I want Sean.
Speaker 5: But I want another one one too, Like I want
Speaker 5: another one too. I mean it's hard to it's hard.
Speaker 7: That is so crazy, Like I feel like the three
Speaker 7: of us, we've been so lucky to you know, to
Speaker 7: It's funny actually doing other shows with with other showrunners
Speaker 7: because I'm always like, oh, you can't just like make
Speaker 7: that call, and they're like, no.
Speaker 5: Like they can't.
Speaker 7: Just like like if Seanna makes a fucking phone call,
Speaker 7: it's happening, you know, it's like done, like if I
Speaker 7: need something, and same with Bill of course, but I've
Speaker 7: had to, you know, I do other I'm so lucky
Speaker 7: to get other jobs, and I'm always they're just like, oh,
Speaker 7: we they're showrunners, like we have no information.
Speaker 5: I'm like, oh my god, this is really hard. Like
Speaker 5: you're in the same boat I'm in.
Speaker 1: Like I think we were both deaf, all three of us,
Speaker 1: who were in instances where we where we were spoiled
Speaker 1: in how lucky we were by the level of talent
Speaker 1: of the showrunner. And then you go on other jobs
Speaker 1: and it isn't always that way. And for me, it
Speaker 1: was my first really big job, so it was shocking.
Speaker 5: Yeah, same.
Speaker 7: Oh my god, same, it's and then what was my
Speaker 7: next big job? Like I've been in the Shondaland world
Speaker 7: for like fifteen years. Like so when I go outside,
Speaker 7: I'm like, oh my god, is everything okay?
Speaker 1: Like Amna Deel ever watched the show?
Speaker 4: Do you know?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: I heard she watched it and loved it.
Speaker 7: I never got to meet her while shooting, but Julia
Speaker 7: Garner went to jail and visited her in jail while
Speaker 7: she was there. She's been out since. And it sounds
Speaker 7: absolutely fucking terrifying. I mean, that girl is a absolute sociopath.
Speaker 7: Like I shouldn't even saying it, because she could know
Speaker 7: where I live because.
Speaker 1: There she knows where the shoppy.
Speaker 5: It's fine, I mean, it's fine. Hopefully she doesn't care.
Speaker 5: I mean she's just like you know, I mean, she
Speaker 5: just there's no I don't know if you've ever come
Speaker 5: across a person like that.
Speaker 3: I have not.
Speaker 7: But in the amount of studying and watching, you know
Speaker 7: that we had access to a lot of videos of
Speaker 7: Anna Delvi and a Psorican is her real name.
Speaker 5: While we were making the show.
Speaker 7: The research department was amazing, but we had so much
Speaker 7: and when you study her like she just has no
Speaker 7: it's meeting someone who has no empathy, like no compared.
Speaker 7: I don't know if you saw her on Dancing with
Speaker 7: the Stars this season, but it's like her answers are bananas.
Speaker 1: What is your answer?
Speaker 7: Oh, she's just like I don't care, Like she gives
Speaker 7: zero fox about anybody or anything except for herself.
Speaker 4: Like she is as her for clout.
Speaker 5: Yeah that's what she said, right, she said that, And
Speaker 5: she was dancing in her ankle.
Speaker 3: Dancing.
Speaker 1: She was dancing with her ankle.
Speaker 5: Thing, dancing with her ankle thing.
Speaker 9: I'm guessing as I'm guessing the resident biggest Dancing with
Speaker 9: the Stars fan on in our in our group.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 9: I just want to point that, yes, Anna Delvey was
Speaker 9: a total joke on the show. At the end, she
Speaker 9: was one of the first people voted off and they
Speaker 9: asked her, so, what are you going to take away
Speaker 9: from the show, and she went nothing, nothing, and then
Speaker 9: and then left.
Speaker 1: Was she good at dancing? I mean I guess not.
Speaker 1: I feel so bad. It must have been hard with
Speaker 1: the ankle. Ankle what do you call that thing? It's
Speaker 1: ankle bind her. It's like this big, it's like a page.
Speaker 2: She how is she able to get to the dancing
Speaker 2: without gave.
Speaker 5: Her She got permission and approval during those windows to
Speaker 5: only go to rehearsal and go to the show like that.
Speaker 3: So hilarious.
Speaker 5: Is that not insane? It's so crazy.
Speaker 1: If you're listening, I highly recommend watching Inventing Anna. What
Speaker 1: what streamer?
Speaker 5: Was it on Netflix?
Speaker 1: Watch it on Netflix. It was really good, was amazing.
Speaker 5: She's the best. And we shot and we lived in
Speaker 5: Morocco for five weeks. It was the last trip.
Speaker 7: It was all of February of twenty twenty and we
Speaker 7: came home and COVID hit COVID happened.
Speaker 1: Wait, why do was the whole I know there was
Speaker 1: a section where you went to Morocco. Why did you
Speaker 1: shoot so long in Morocco?
Speaker 5: There was one huge First of all, this show was
Speaker 5: so big. This was unbelievable, Like I don't know, I
Speaker 5: just spent a lot of money. I don't know if
Speaker 5: it was the Shonda effect or the Netflix effect.
Speaker 7: I have no idea, But we had a whole episode
Speaker 7: so like ninety something pages that basically happened in Morocco,
Speaker 7: in the actual place where my character is conned out
Speaker 7: of like a sixty thousand.
Speaker 5: Dollars a night. Riodd like, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 7: Anna Delby is good friends with my character and is like,
Speaker 7: let's go to Morocco for the that's a terrible impression.
Speaker 5: I can't do it. I was doing French. I don't
Speaker 5: know what's happening. I'm not going to attempt that again.
Speaker 7: But she does like, let's go to Morocco for the weekend.
Speaker 7: I'll pay for everything. She goes and all of her
Speaker 7: cards get declined. She skips out of town and Rachel
Speaker 7: basically puts down her Vanity Fair corporate company.
Speaker 5: Card in a personal card.
Speaker 7: It was like a sixty bill, sixty thousand dollar bill exactly.
Speaker 7: And you know, we stayed in the exact riod where
Speaker 7: it went down. We were with all the security guards
Speaker 7: that were gonna like take them away if she couldn't pay,
Speaker 7: they weren't allowed to leave the country.
Speaker 5: I mean, it was like amazing. And it's the hotels
Speaker 5: called lam Mammuna.
Speaker 1: And was it a fun Was it a fun place
Speaker 1: to shoot?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 5: It was, Well, it's so fun because you don't have
Speaker 5: to act, do you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like you're like you're in Morocco.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like you're there, You're.
Speaker 7: Like scared, You're like blown away by everything. You're literally
Speaker 7: in like cars while like donkeys and carts are on
Speaker 7: the streets next to you, and you know, and you're
Speaker 7: drinking the Morocco everything is so visceral and like full
Speaker 7: that you're just like I showed up and I was like,
Speaker 7: oh great, I mean this is shoot, this shoots itself.
Speaker 7: You know, it's just like so it was so great.
Speaker 7: And Laverne Cox. It was me and Laverne Cox and
Speaker 7: Julia Garner in Morocco for like five.
Speaker 1: That sounds like a good show.
Speaker 5: It was a blast.
Speaker 3: It was Morocco.
Speaker 5: No, she didn't make it to Morocco. No, none of them,
Speaker 5: None of them. We were It felt like we were
Speaker 5: all like the little kid, you know. We were there
Speaker 5: with the director and the writer of the episode.
Speaker 7: It was kind of I kind of always love that,
Speaker 7: you know, Shanda's always been and I don't know if
Speaker 7: Bill's like this, but Shanda doesn't go to set.
Speaker 3: She Bills the opposite.
Speaker 5: Oh really, Oh wow, that that would actually make me
Speaker 5: so nervous.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he comes for everything every Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I just.
Speaker 5: Got so nervous because it's really nervous.
Speaker 2: But sometimes it's good because sometimes it's not what you
Speaker 2: expected to be when you get there, and Bill always
Speaker 2: finds a way to make it so it's perfect.
Speaker 1: And also with comedy it's great because we we we
Speaker 1: have a bass with the script, but then rehearsal we
Speaker 1: all start riffling with him, and.
Speaker 5: That's such a good call.
Speaker 7: Yeah, this she never comes to set because on Scandal
Speaker 7: at least, and a little bit on Vincentaina, but Scandal
Speaker 7: you had to be word perfect. You couldn't make up
Speaker 7: an ove or an and or the nothing. She said,
Speaker 7: if you what you say is up to me. How
Speaker 7: you say it is up to you, which is what
Speaker 7: she said. And if you ever did a table read.
Speaker 7: Every week we did a live table read, and then
Speaker 7: she would say, you have twenty four hours to ask
Speaker 7: me for changes or discuss or like whatever.
Speaker 5: So there was always room to collaborate, for sure.
Speaker 7: But anyway, so she didn't come to rehearsal, and I
Speaker 7: kind of get it, like I don't. It sounds like
Speaker 7: because Bill's are always there, this doesn't happen. But when
Speaker 7: Shonda comes to set, set stops right. Like everyone's freaked out.
Speaker 7: Everybody's like, oh, my god, like we need to like and.
Speaker 5: Then and then also people are like can I get
Speaker 5: a photo?
Speaker 4: You know? You know?
Speaker 5: Can can you?
Speaker 7: You know you you know you've changed my life, like
Speaker 7: and that's so beautiful and lovely too.
Speaker 5: But she just sort of lets us do our work
Speaker 5: and she does her work.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: Another thing.
Speaker 2: I was there the day Scott Boley found out he
Speaker 2: was going to be a regular on Scandal too.
Speaker 3: I remember that we were shooting him. We were shooting
Speaker 3: a movie, Yeah, Let's kill Ward's wife.
Speaker 2: Yes, And we were filming either we were filming or
Speaker 2: we were doing publicity for it. And the call came
Speaker 2: in and he was like, yo, I just got added
Speaker 2: to the show. And I was yeah, man, I remember
Speaker 2: that day too, and he was very very excited. I
Speaker 2: was like, well, shit, are you moving.
Speaker 7: He was unbelievable, but he had a really hard lift
Speaker 7: because bringing it background to Tony Goldwyn. This poor dude,
Speaker 7: Scott Folly, who I love so much, is a very
Speaker 7: good friend of mine. He is always in a love
Speaker 7: triangle like that's.
Speaker 5: Felicity.
Speaker 1: He scrubs shrubs, Oh my god.
Speaker 7: So to try to come in and try to get
Speaker 7: the girl who the audience is already in love and
Speaker 7: wants her.
Speaker 5: With somebody else.
Speaker 1: Yeah, handsome enough to do that, though he.
Speaker 7: Gets enough of the audience to be like, I think
Speaker 7: I'm into Foley, but really I'm into Goldwyn. And this
Speaker 7: poor dude has to do scenes where he's like playing
Speaker 7: basketball against Goldwyn doing like you know, you take off
Speaker 7: your shirt, I take off my shirt, like there's a
Speaker 7: lot of that, and he had to do that for.
Speaker 5: Seven years, which is not an easy task. I feel
Speaker 5: like that is he was.
Speaker 4: He was.
Speaker 1: He was my nemesis on Scrubs because Elliott Davis, right,
Speaker 1: and his name was Sean and and JD would always
Speaker 1: go nobody cares Sean.
Speaker 2: I did Felicity, which I did Felicity with Scott another
Speaker 2: love triangle and that love triangle, Like, but he was
Speaker 2: so fucking like that's the thing about Foley though. He's
Speaker 2: so fucking good though, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 2: every time he's just so good, so.
Speaker 7: Good, and he's so funny, Like that's what I love
Speaker 7: about you guys and him on Scrubs, Like he's so
Speaker 7: funny and he's you know, he's so good at being
Speaker 7: a romantic lead and he's he's also a.
Speaker 1: Matter what he posts on his Instagram. He'll write like,
Speaker 1: celebrating this many years with the love of my life.
Speaker 1: I'm so lucky and blessed, and then the comments will
Speaker 1: be like nobody can shu.
Speaker 5: That's so funny.
Speaker 7: And he definitely has Scandal fans being like, you suck.
Speaker 7: We prefer Tony Goldwin like one hundred percent. He had
Speaker 7: to deal with that for years, which was yeah, because people.
Speaker 1: Are fucking nuts. They get so invested.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, it's hard TV. You're in people's living
Speaker 5: room every week.
Speaker 1: It's so like they they like think that Scott Foley
Speaker 1: the person is trying to steal Kerry Washington.
Speaker 2: Well, Bellamy is another. Bellamy is another uh Scrubs alumni.
Speaker 1: Also, yeah, she was one of my lovers.
Speaker 3: WHOA, no, no, no, she wasn't No, she wasn't a lover.
Speaker 1: She was a she was the head of surgery.
Speaker 3: Surgery, Yeah, whoa.
Speaker 7: I could see the nine episodes on Scandal. She was
Speaker 7: supposed to be in the pilot for three lines. She's
Speaker 7: one of those stories.
Speaker 3: She knows how, she knows how to optimiz I mean.
Speaker 5: She killed it.
Speaker 7: She was waiting for her and then same as fully
Speaker 7: like second season series regular change your life, like just
Speaker 7: just unbelievable story. I never even auditioned for Scrubs.
Speaker 1: Well really might have another chance there could come on.
Speaker 7: I would love to wear scrub I mean, is it
Speaker 7: great wearing scrubs and sneakers?
Speaker 5: Is it great? Oh my god? That sounds unvalieved.
Speaker 1: Are you watching? By the way, I didn't tell you
Speaker 1: guys this, Joell. I love this new show.
Speaker 5: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: And I shouted it out on my Instagram stories because
Speaker 1: I just love it and I want everyone to see it.
Speaker 1: And I said, God, I love Noah Wiley. He's so amazing.
Speaker 1: And he replied to me, he said, Zach, thank you
Speaker 1: so much, he goes. You know, we're getting so much
Speaker 1: feedback that this is the most accurate medical show since Scrubs.
Speaker 1: And I wanted to tell you that and I said, oh,
Speaker 1: I love it, he goes. I said, I was actually
Speaker 1: out to dinner with Bill Lawrence, who also loves it,
Speaker 1: and we were guessing where it's going, and anyway, we
Speaker 1: had a little love fest, Joelle. So I really want
Speaker 1: you to try and get him on. Now that I've
Speaker 1: I've greased the wheels.
Speaker 4: We'll follow up.
Speaker 5: Well, come on, Noah Wiley let's go.
Speaker 1: But anyway, watched that show. It's so good.
Speaker 5: Oh, I can't. I think I auditioned for that. Clearly
Speaker 5: didn't get it.
Speaker 1: You got to wrap it up, Katie.
Speaker 3: Do you audition a lot?
Speaker 7: No?
Speaker 5: I mean, you know, I think at this point.
Speaker 1: You know what you're getting when you get Katie thought.
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I mean, I like, you know, I I
Speaker 5: think I audition.
Speaker 7: Hm, I audition a lot, but thank god, I think
Speaker 7: if scandal got me anything. It's like in the way
Speaker 7: later rounds so bless, like great great, great, great great,
Speaker 7: Like I used to have to audition like thirty seven
Speaker 7: hundred times to get for something.
Speaker 1: And now it's casting director's niece.
Speaker 7: Yes, exactly, and now it's like, okay, we're down to
Speaker 7: the group you know in the why you know, we're
Speaker 7: down to the last things, and so that feels like
Speaker 7: an upgrade. But I I don't know that this has
Speaker 7: been like a very odd sort of time where it's dead.
Speaker 5: But that's okay. And I mean, you guys, don't you
Speaker 5: just get off for I write?
Speaker 2: You know, I still auditions. I have an auditioned for
Speaker 2: anything in a while.
Speaker 1: But like you said, it is kind of if I
Speaker 1: love it and it's competitive, and they're like, you got
Speaker 1: to read to be in the mix, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: this is great. I read.
Speaker 2: I would audition for Star Wars. I would audition for Marvel.
Speaker 5: You would kill that.
Speaker 1: Oh, don't get him going, Katie, you would fucking kill that.
Speaker 5: I see it.
Speaker 3: I see it.
Speaker 1: I see Oh my god, I see it. On that note, Katie,
Speaker 1: You're an amazing guest. You're an amazing human.
Speaker 5: My pleasure think you guys so much having me on.
Speaker 5: You are amazing humans.
Speaker 1: Please send me a gluten free Shoppies pretzel once they're done.
Speaker 2: And we have a three three way date to go
Speaker 2: see Smash when it hits Broadway.
Speaker 1: Yes, we are going to.
Speaker 3: Joel, Joel, You're welcome to come with us.
Speaker 5: You can, yes, Joel, Please, I will be there.
Speaker 4: Let's go.
Speaker 1: I will be seated for Smash.
Speaker 3: I'm very Smash on Broadway.
Speaker 5: All right, what was your favorite song?
Speaker 4: Donald?
Speaker 3: What is history was made? Nice?
Speaker 2: So turn it.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned because next week this becomes a Smash.
Speaker 2: Now that's what I'm talking about, exactly right, That's what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1: She's so entertaining.
Speaker 3: Oh man, we could have talked about Broadway for the whole.
Speaker 1: I didn't know that you knew her, Donald, So we
Speaker 1: don't know know each.
Speaker 2: Other, but we've sat next to each other at a
Speaker 2: Josh Raiding concert when he was at the Troubadour, and
Speaker 2: also our nanny.
Speaker 3: My nanny left us to go to Katie.
Speaker 1: Well. Well, yeah, she's one of those people in town
Speaker 1: where we just know so many people in common. And
Speaker 1: I see her occasionally, but god, she's so entertaining. I
Speaker 1: could chat with her forever.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's that try state connection.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, try state love. Well, that was a
Speaker 1: lot of fun. Everyone. I have to take my puppy
Speaker 1: to the vent, so we're gonna have to wrap it up.
Speaker 1: But Donald, I love you so much it hurts.
Speaker 3: Sometimes, you know, the feeling is mutual.
Speaker 1: I'm excited I get to be silly with you on.
Speaker 3: Friday, Friday, maybe Saturday.
Speaker 1: Project for a secret project.
Speaker 3: It's Star Wars. Just tell him it's Star Wars.
Speaker 9: It is Zach and Donald are gay newlyweds in House
Speaker 9: Arrest Productions starts Friday.
Speaker 3: Seven Stories. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1: We made about a bunch of talks and nurses and janoo.
Speaker 3: Me, I said here's the stories, Nephews, No
Speaker 6: So gada round you here, YadA round here, swe Show
Speaker 6: wins and no