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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton here with you all now, Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: A lot to talk about. Breaking news from the last

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Speaker 1: hour or so. It's always fun. We get to break

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Speaker 1: some news here in the Freedom Hunt for you, and

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Speaker 1: in this case it has to do with sanctuary cities

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Speaker 1: and Trump administration executive orders. Here's the latest from the

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Speaker 1: Associated Press. A federal judge blocked any attempts by the

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Speaker 1: Trump administration to withhold funding from sanctuary cities that do

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Speaker 1: not cooperate with US immigration authorities, saying the president has

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Speaker 1: no authority to attach new conditions to federal spending. U

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Speaker 1: s District Judge William Rick and Obama pointee issued the

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Speaker 1: preliminary injunction in two lawsuits, one brought by the City

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Speaker 1: an executive order targeting communities that protect immigrants from deportation.

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Speaker 1: Notice how I'm reading you from the Associated Press and

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Speaker 1: they say things, are they right? Things like protect immigrants

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Speaker 1: here is not immigrants, it is illegal immigrant. I even

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Speaker 1: it was tweeting out that there's nothing there's nothing illegal

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Speaker 1: an undocumented immigrant is not a criminal. Well, no, an

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Speaker 1: undocumented an undocumented immigrant is just another term for an

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Speaker 1: Now we could also say that anybody if you jaywalk,

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Speaker 1: think the reason it's worth pointing out, is that now

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Speaker 1: And I'm getting all these this uh social media stuff

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Speaker 1: That's right, you know Trump can't be a tyrant, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's okay. Well, so the law matters when it comes

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Speaker 1: to respecting a circuit court judge who overturns an executive

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Speaker 1: This exposes once again that the left is all about power.

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Speaker 1: The law is irrelevant. The law is a tool for

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Speaker 1: dollars needed to start the building of the wall. Trump said,

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Speaker 1: the falling the wall is going to get built, and

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Speaker 1: we are settling. Are we are setting record numbers in

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Speaker 1: terms of stopping people from coming in. I was just

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Speaker 1: with DHS Secretary Kelly a little while ago, and he said,

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Speaker 1: definitely desperately need the wall. The wall gets built, thank

436
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Speaker 1: you very much. Soon, We're already hiring, doing plans, doing specifications,

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Speaker 1: and the wall get built. He's saying the wall is

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Speaker 1: gonna get built still, and I would like to take

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Speaker 1: him at his word on this one, and I do.

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Speaker 1: Now you'll notice that the media throws in there a

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Speaker 1: lot of old where's the plan for Mexico to pay

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Speaker 1: for this? Maybe Mexico pays for with a tariff down

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Speaker 1: the line, Maybe you know, Uh, this is not really

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Speaker 1: of deep consequence to me or I think a lot

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Speaker 1: of other people that were willing to give the administration

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Speaker 1: some leeway here to find a way to get this done. Um,

447
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,440
Speaker 1: Mexico paying for it up front is clearly not going

448
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:43,879
Speaker 1: to happen. I think we've gotten beyond that. But we

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00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,760
Speaker 1: also now understand that this is an issue that Trump

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Speaker 1: will be held to account on. There's no way to

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Speaker 1: not build the wall without some people. I don't mean

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Speaker 1: not build it right now. It doesn't have to happen

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Speaker 1: right now. Look how many decades have we gone without

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Speaker 1: a wall? We're needed one, and all of a sudden,

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Speaker 1: you know, if it doesn't happen a couple of months,

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00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: we're all going to turn around and say, well, it's

457
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Speaker 1: not gonna happen at all. Trump is breaking promises. Trump

458
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 1: is letting us down. Look at what's going on here. Um, oh,

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Speaker 1: we actually, well we have it now. That's that's all right,

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Speaker 1: I've I've already uh, we we heard that. We heard

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Speaker 1: the verbic um. But the wall is also a major

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Speaker 1: policy issue for the Democrats here. Here's why. Uh, because

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Speaker 1: right now the system in place allows them to benefit

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Speaker 1: politically in every sense. There is no way in which

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Speaker 1: Democrats do not politically benefit from a porous border. It's

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Speaker 1: not a truly open border in in that we don't

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Speaker 1: allow anybody as a matter of law, anyone can just

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Speaker 1: come and stay. I think there are plenty of Democrats

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Speaker 1: who would like that to be the case. But it's porous.

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Speaker 1: It is pretty easy to get in now, and no

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Speaker 1: numbers have gone down. And that may be be because

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Speaker 1: there's an expectation of stricter enforcement by the Trump administration

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Speaker 1: of immigration laws. But beyond that, I also think there

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Speaker 1: are lower expectations that there will be an amnesty, at

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Speaker 1: least not for the foreseeable future. But Democrats have been

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Speaker 1: saying for quite a while that the wall is not

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Speaker 1: something that would work. Well, why is that true? Why

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Speaker 1: is the why is the wall not effective? I think

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Speaker 1: think about this, and you even have these cute phrases

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Speaker 1: of these, Oh, we'll show me a ten ft wall,

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Speaker 1: I'll show you an eleven foot ladder. If that's the

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Speaker 1: way we approach security. Now, um, I you know, show me,

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Speaker 1: you know, show me bulletproof glass somewhere. I'll show you

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Speaker 1: a missile launcher. I mean, what, what what does that mean?

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Speaker 1: So so just don't have it right, I mean, because

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Speaker 1: it's not perfect, it's useless. That's the standard they're holding

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Speaker 1: it to. Now, that's insane. You want reduction is in

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Speaker 1: illegal crossings. No one saying that there will be no

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Speaker 1: illegal immigration. In fact, I'm somebody who sits here reminding

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Speaker 1: everybody who will listen that you have a half a

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Speaker 1: million visa overstays every year in this country. At least

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Speaker 1: for the last complete year for which we have data,

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Speaker 1: you got a half million visa overstays. You need interior

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Speaker 1: enforcement as well. You need workplace enforcement. You just sanction

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Speaker 1: employers that are hiring illegals and undercutting the wages of

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Speaker 1: citizens in those sectors and those professions. This needs to

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Speaker 1: be a multi pronged Yes, dare I say comprehensive approach,

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Speaker 1: But it's a comprehensive immigration security approach. It's not comprehensive

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Speaker 1: immigration reform as amnesty, which is what we were being

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Speaker 1: offered before. But I think that somewhere in the minds

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Speaker 1: of of major Democrats, the Schumer's, the Pelosi's, and all

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Speaker 1: the rest, they must understand that if a wall does

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Speaker 1: in fact get built and it works, it'll be demonstrable.

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Speaker 1: It'll be in the numbers. We'll be able to show,

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Speaker 1: and we will know at some level. Now, of course

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00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 1: they'll argue that at that point, they'll delay, and they'll

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Speaker 1: try to come up with some means of suggesting that

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Speaker 1: they weren't just misleading the American people all along, but

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Speaker 1: of course they were. A wall will work. I ask

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Speaker 1: you this, if you have to get onto your neighbor's property,

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Speaker 1: are you is it more likely to happen if you're

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Speaker 1: gonna if you're gonna trespass in your neighbor's yard, Is

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Speaker 1: it more likely to happen if there's a ten foot

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Speaker 1: wall or less? This is this is the most obvious

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Speaker 1: stuff imaginable, And yet they look at us all with

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Speaker 1: a straight face and say, oh, well, the border wall,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't it won't do anything, and we shouldn't spend

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Speaker 1: the money. Now Democrats are are fiscal hawks. Oh no,

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Speaker 1: he can't can't spend money on that, you, Chuck Schumer

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Speaker 1: saying it's fifty billion. They're asking for a billion. Now,

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Speaker 1: this would be construction jobs. This would be made in America.

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Speaker 1: This would be something that could even gonder the general

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Speaker 1: heading of infrastructure. But they don't want it. Will Trump

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Speaker 1: build this wall? Looks like we won't really find out

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Speaker 1: until the fall, when there will be a another debt ceiling,

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Speaker 1: budget showdown, another fight between Democrats and Republicans over a

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Speaker 1: continuing resolution to fund the government, and we will have

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Speaker 1: to see at that point. We will have to see

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Speaker 1: whether this administration can come up with a deal that

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Speaker 1: gets it done, or there's just the political will to

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Speaker 1: somehow ram this through. I know the Democrats can filibuster,

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Speaker 1: but we will have to see what is possible for

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Speaker 1: them to to pull off. Here, team, we're going to

534
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: hit a quick break. We'll be right back. We got

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Speaker 1: ken in Mississippi. W BU. What just we just lost

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Speaker 1: all of our calls? What happened forward? Okay, no, we don't. Sorry,

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00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,040
Speaker 1: we had a whole bunch of calls up and then

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Speaker 1: the college just went poof, They disappeared. Don't what happened there?

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Speaker 1: Um Like, oh wait, we got some back. Okay, look

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Speaker 1: at this. I'm telling you it's I'm not saying it's

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Speaker 1: a it's a Soros Antifi conspiracy, but I'm I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying it's not either. Jeff and North Carolina w p

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Speaker 1: T I what is up, sir, Hey, but yeah, no, hey,

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Speaker 1: I'm with you on the wall. Uh you know how

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Speaker 1: you know, Chuck Schumer and many of them have have

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Speaker 1: used that ridiculous response that you show me a thirty

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Speaker 1: foot wall, and I'll show you a thirty five ft ladder.

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Speaker 1: And in the ironic thing is we've got sound bites

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Speaker 1: and video clips of them all saying, you know in

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Speaker 1: the past that yes, we got to have a wall,

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Speaker 1: We've got to have that wall. But anyway, if my

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Speaker 1: my view of what that wall should look like is

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Speaker 1: it should bet high. That's that's a big wall. That's

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Speaker 1: like that's like a Game of Thrones wall. That's like,

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Speaker 1: that's like fifteen feet wide at the top. So we

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Speaker 1: can put all terrain vehicles that run from one watch

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00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,759
Speaker 1: tower to the next, and they're gonna say, well, you

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Speaker 1: don't know how far what watch tower is gonna Hey,

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Speaker 1: as long as one can see the next one, that's

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Speaker 1: how far they have to be a part. Because I

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Speaker 1: understand that some of that terrain out there is rough,

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Speaker 1: and that wall is gonna go through some and it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be places where we can't have a serious one.

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Speaker 1: That's what I'd like to see that's what I would

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Speaker 1: like to see. And if they want to put solar

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Speaker 1: panels on one side of it, god bless them. Bill ahead.

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Speaker 1: If that's what's gonna sell the sell the job. Go ahead,

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Speaker 1: put the solar panels on it. But uh, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I want a serious wall because this is what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 1: But we're gonna, they're gonna if we don't put that

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Speaker 1: wall up as soon as Trump is out of office,

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00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,799
Speaker 1: they're gonna, you know, we will have already wiped our

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Speaker 1: hands and said, okay, we took care of the border,

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Speaker 1: but we didn't because as soon as Trump's out of

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Speaker 1: office that the wall, the wall stays sort of sort

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Speaker 1: of like sort of like Obama appointed circuit judges that

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Speaker 1: are there for life. The wall will be there long

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Speaker 1: after the administration is over. And you're not gonna Jeff,

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Speaker 1: thank you, thank you, by the way, my friend for

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Speaker 1: calling in from North Carolina. Um, the wall will be

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Speaker 1: there no matter what the next I mean, you're not

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Speaker 1: gonna think about this. How how could you have an

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Speaker 1: administration and say, well, we're gonna tear that wall down

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Speaker 1: now right. I don't think that's gonna happen. There's seven

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Speaker 1: hundred miles of border fence. That's already down at the

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Speaker 1: roughly two thousand mom border with Mexico. By the way, UM,

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Speaker 1: there's different kinds of fence down there. There's chain link

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00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:43,800
Speaker 1: post and rail wire, mesh, concrete bearers for vehicles, and

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Speaker 1: it depends on what part of it we're talking about. UM.

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Speaker 1: But Trump has said, according to ABC News here, he

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Speaker 1: wants a concrete bearers high as fifty five ft tall.

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Speaker 1: That's that's a really serious wall, by the way. That

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Speaker 1: is like that is a game of throwing style. All

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Speaker 1: that is huge. UM. And then under the Secure Fence Act,

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Speaker 1: the pedestrian border fencing, completed in fiscal year two thousand

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Speaker 1: and seven, was estimated to cost two point eight million

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00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 1: per mile. That's in the Government Accountability Office. It was

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Speaker 1: constructed using mostly the US Army Corps of Engineer in

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Speaker 1: the National Guard, and it already and now they're saying

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Speaker 1: a building a thousand mile wall could cost as much

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Speaker 1: as forty billion dollars. I think the subway, the new

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Speaker 1: subway line in New York City that runs for like

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Speaker 1: fifteen blocks or something. I'm I'm being a little facetious here,

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Speaker 1: but it costs like two billion dollars. So if we

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Speaker 1: can get a thousand miles of wall for forty billion,

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Speaker 1: that seems like a pretty pretty decent deal. Um. And

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Speaker 1: when you add in the long term costs of illegal immigration,

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Speaker 1: both as social social welfare costs, costs of criminal justice system,

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Speaker 1: you could consider to be a long term investment. But

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Speaker 1: I also bring this up because Congress has voted in

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Speaker 1: the past for a wall. There is all ready a

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Speaker 1: whole bunch of places or there there's a good stretch

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Speaker 1: or good stretches of the southern border that have a wall,

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Speaker 1: and they are less likely to be places where there

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Speaker 1: are legal crossings than those that are wide open. Well,

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Speaker 1: look at that, it's almost like a wall maybe would work, um.

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Speaker 1: And isn't it true There are a lot of countries

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Speaker 1: that are building walls, um, and they have worked so far.

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Speaker 1: So the the evidence is that you could say, on walls,

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Speaker 1: the science is settled. Uh, harder to cross with a

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Speaker 1: wall hall in general than without one. So we can

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Speaker 1: see if they are willing to get this done. I

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Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know, um, if the administration is

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Speaker 1: gonna be able to get around the Democrats on this

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00:37:48,120 --> 00:37:51,160
Speaker 1: one in the fall. But they are putting this one off.

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Speaker 1: That's the latest we have, which also means that my

627
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:58,440
Speaker 1: prediction to you yesterday that the budget would not or

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Speaker 1: that the government would not get shut down because it'll

629
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Speaker 1: just be business as usual and people are gonna lose

630
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:09,000
Speaker 1: their lose their their spinal stiffness on this one. That's

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Speaker 1: looking like it's a pretty astute prediction. But it was

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Speaker 1: also an obvious one, so I won't take too many

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00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 1: bows over it. Let's talk about terrorism in just a

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Speaker 1: few minutes. Stay with me. He spreads freedom because freedom

635
00:38:22,520 --> 00:38:25,719
Speaker 1: is not gonna spread itself. Buck sexed in his back

636
00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: big payday coming up for President Obama, although actually by

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Speaker 1: President Obama's former President Obama's standards, um not. I guess

638
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: really that big of a payday because he's getting I

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00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: forget how many tens of millions, like sixteen million or

640
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Speaker 1: something like that for the Oh no, wait, what was

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Speaker 1: the book? How much money was he getting for the book? Um?

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Speaker 1: I think it was. It was it was some unimaginably

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Speaker 1: Oh I'm sorry, yeah, Buck, six sixty million according to

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Speaker 1: Business Inside A sixty not six team. But you're such

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Speaker 1: a silly goose. Sixty do any of you think that

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Speaker 1: that the publisher is going to make that money on

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Speaker 1: the book, no, or a book from him and Michelle

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Speaker 1: Obama Mrs Obama. Uh No, So why pay them somehow?

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Speaker 1: Because you know, publishers pay the Obama's a lot because

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Speaker 1: the people that run a huge publishing company want to

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Speaker 1: be important and want to do something that gives them

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Speaker 1: access to the Obamas and everybody around the Obama's. And

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Speaker 1: it's really just about, you know, the elites scratching each

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Speaker 1: other's backs here and taking care of each other. It's

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Speaker 1: not really based on the free market in the sense

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Speaker 1: that the market determines a sixty million dollar Now it's

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Speaker 1: people that run the company, run the big publishing house,

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Speaker 1: whichever lives at Penguin House. Um, we're just gonna throw

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Speaker 1: a lot of money to the Obama's because because they can. Um.

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Speaker 1: But putting aside the book, the sixty million dollar book deal,

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Speaker 1: I said this, by the way, President Obama and Mrs Obama,

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Speaker 1: they're going to be astonishingly wealthy at a much faster

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Speaker 1: pace and with much less with much less selling of

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Speaker 1: influence to foreign governments, which I guess is a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Um than the Clintons. They'll be able to amass an

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Speaker 1: enormous fortune. And we're talking about this yesterday. Obama is

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Speaker 1: going to be a voice in politics for the foreseeable

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Speaker 1: that he's not going away, and he's really gonna be

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Speaker 1: the go to I think until the Democrats have somebody

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Speaker 1: that can be the standard bearer. You're gonna hear a

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Speaker 1: lot from well, not a lot, but you'll hear from

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Speaker 1: Obama at key moments. Anyway, four grand is what he's

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Speaker 1: getting for a speech at Canter Fitzgerald, which is a

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Speaker 1: mid sized New York City based investment bank. They're gonna

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Speaker 1: pay him four hundred thousand dollars for a speech in

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Speaker 1: um I figured coming up in May or something. I

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Speaker 1: forget what it's gonna be. Oh, I'm sorry. In September,

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Speaker 1: Burt in September, their healthcare conference. But that's twice what

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton gets. Hillary Clinton gets a little over two

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand. So Obama gets a lot more money than

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Speaker 1: Hillary does. I bring this up for a bunch of reasons.

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Speaker 1: One the class warriors, Hillary Obama. They certainly like making

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Speaker 1: a lot of money off of their public service. We

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Speaker 1: know that, and especially in the case of Obama, all

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Speaker 1: to talk about Wall Street and holding banks accountable and

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. Well, he's gonna hold the banks accountable

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Speaker 1: the tune of four grad when he shows up and

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Speaker 1: gives her a speech written by somebody else for him

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Speaker 1: in about thirty or forty minutes, and that's that's a

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Speaker 1: nice That is a nice pay day. UM. So that's

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Speaker 1: interesting to me. But also I just like to keep

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Speaker 1: an eye on this. Hillary and Bill said that there

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Speaker 1: was no connection between their international you know, if we're

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Speaker 1: we're gonna look aft of this now because I I

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Speaker 1: want to force those serious, big j journalists from some

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Speaker 1: of the other networks and most of the large newspapers. Um.

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Speaker 1: I want to force them to have to defend. Just

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Speaker 1: as they love to say, oh, what did you hear

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Speaker 1: what Trump said? Here, You're gonna defend that. You Trump

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Speaker 1: said there, You're gonna defend that, I want them to

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Speaker 1: defend those statements that there was no connection between the

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Speaker 1: Clinton's public office and the money that they were getting,

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Speaker 1: not just for the foundation but personal money that they

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Speaker 1: were being paid. For example, Bill Clinton getting paid eight

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Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars after he had been out of office

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Speaker 1: for a number of years. His speaking fee seemed to

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Speaker 1: go up when his wife was Secretary of State. Isn't

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Speaker 1: that curious? When usually the further one is from office,

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Speaker 1: the more the speaking fees go down, the most recent

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Speaker 1: president gets more. So why would Bill Clinton be getting

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Speaker 1: more money even though he's further from office. Oh, that's right,

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Speaker 1: there were selling influence. We'll return to that again in

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Speaker 1: the future. So I just you know, Obama all about

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Speaker 1: all about class warfare, all about paying their fair share.

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Speaker 1: Apparently paying your fair share for Obama is four grand

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Speaker 1: for a day, not even a day an hour. It's good,

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Speaker 1: it's good. On top of the sixty million dollar book deal,

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Speaker 1: the one gets a sixty million dollar book deal. By

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Speaker 1: this is insane. Obama's got a sixty million dollar book deal.

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Speaker 1: Do you think George W. Bush got a sixty million No,

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure. Also, I'm guessing, and I think I

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Speaker 1: might have read this, so maybe I'm also slightly remembering.

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Speaker 1: I think Bush gave all the money from the proceeds

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Speaker 1: of his book to charity, but I'm assuming that is

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Speaker 1: the case. All Right, Um, I wanted to move I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm switching topics here, um, And I would encourage you

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Speaker 1: all if you wanted to to follow along or to

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Speaker 1: check check it out later. Um, go to buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: dot com because I've written a post there that tackles

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Speaker 1: this issue in some detail. It is one of the

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Speaker 1: more frustrating parts of discussions that happened in the public

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Speaker 1: on national security and counter terrorism, in particular because it

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Speaker 1: keeps getting position the same way by the left and

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Speaker 1: that the same faulty arguments come up. And there's a

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Speaker 1: recently released Government Accountability Office g a O report on

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Speaker 1: countering Islamic I'm sorry, no, Countering violent extremism is the

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Speaker 1: name of the report, which already should let you know

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Speaker 1: that there's something awry here. Countering violent extremism, What does

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Speaker 1: that even mean. We're not even saying terror, we're kind

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Speaker 1: of violent extremism. Well, why is such a broad based,

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Speaker 1: almost meaningless term. It really is a meaningless term. You

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Speaker 1: could argue that all violence is extreme in some way

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Speaker 1: or another when it's illegal and illicit, right, So it

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Speaker 1: doesn't really mean very much. But that's because this is

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Speaker 1: one of these reports that come out and will be

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Speaker 1: seized upon by people on the left who are comple

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Speaker 1: letly dedicated to this idea that right wing terrorism and

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Speaker 1: not jihotism, which is my shorthand, and many others from

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Speaker 1: the counter terrorism community will use it um for radical

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Speaker 1: Islamic terrorism. Um. They want to believe that right wing

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Speaker 1: terrorism is understated and radical Islamic terrorism is overstated. And

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Speaker 1: you'll see big websites BuzzFeed and vox, in the New

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Speaker 1: York Times, Washington Post, you know, major publications that will

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Speaker 1: feature people who are editorial writers or analysts or others whatever,

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Speaker 1: who will will find different ways to suggest that Islamic

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Speaker 1: terrorism is not that big a deal. Radical Islamic terrorism

757
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Speaker 1: is not that big a deal. How about gehotism and

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00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: right wing terrorism is a much bigger deal than we realize.

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Speaker 1: The way they do this is they have broken down

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Speaker 1: in this g a O report the number of fatalities

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Speaker 1: from what they call violent extremists starting after September eleventh,

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Speaker 1: two thousand and one. Well, isn't that an interesting date

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Speaker 1: to exclude? Because that's like trying to analyze US reaction

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Speaker 1: two or in the Second World War without including the

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Speaker 1: bombing of Pearl Harbor, right without Pearl Harbor. Wow, America, really,

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Speaker 1: you know, getting going after the Imperial Japan pretty pretty harsh,

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Speaker 1: you know, Oh oh, you mean, oh, you mean they

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Speaker 1: attacked us and a sneak attack and killed many of us.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you cut out Pearl Harbor. Not nothing

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Speaker 1: that follows makes sense. If you cut out nine eleven

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Speaker 1: and you want to talk about kunter terrorism policy, that's

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Speaker 1: just that's just nonsensical. But they do this because, of course,

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Speaker 1: then a lot of our actions, which are preventative in nature, uh,

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Speaker 1: don't seem to make as much sense. It doesn't allow

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Speaker 1: the love to talk about context. And they usually do

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Speaker 1: it as a means of trying to change the subject

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Speaker 1: on terrorism. They decontextualize our entire not post nine eleven

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Speaker 1: posture by pretending that nine eleven is not a statistic

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Speaker 1: that we have to account for in terms of deaths

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Speaker 1: and loss to uh well, lost our security, the economy,

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Speaker 1: it is stability everything, psychological perception of the US going forward. Uh.

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Speaker 1: They cut that out, and then they say, well, you know,

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Speaker 1: there's really they really haven't been that many mass casualty

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Speaker 1: attacks on US soil since then. And in fact, there

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Speaker 1: are a lot of what they would call right wing

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Speaker 1: terrorist incidents across the country. And here here's the number

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Speaker 1: um as shown in the figure. This is from the

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Speaker 1: Government Accountability Report, fatalities resulting from attacks by far right

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Speaker 1: wing violent extremists have exceeded those caused by radical Islamist

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Speaker 1: violent extremists in ten of the fifteen years of the

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Speaker 1: eighty five violent extremists incidents that resulted in deaths. In

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Speaker 1: September twelve, two thousand and one, there we go, right,

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Speaker 1: they count starting the day after the biggest attack in

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Speaker 1: the history of the world terrorist Deack, far right wing

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Speaker 1: violent extremist groups were responsible for sixty two attacks, while

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Speaker 1: radical Islamist violent extremists were responsible for twenty three attacks.

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Speaker 1: So roughly three quarters were quote right wing extremists and

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Speaker 1: one quarter were radical Islamist extremists. And now you get

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Speaker 1: people running around on the Internet and no else where saying, oh,

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Speaker 1: we'll see radical Islam is not really the big threat.

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Speaker 1: The big threat is right wing terrorism. Oh okay. First

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Speaker 1: of all, well, I could spend the entire show just

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Speaker 1: talking about this and I won't. Um and as somebody

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Speaker 1: who has worked in counter terrorism and not one of

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Speaker 1: these kids who just went to a journalism program, and

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Speaker 1: all I've ever wanted to do is be on TV

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Speaker 1: and be a journalist, or even be on radio and

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Speaker 1: be a journalist or whatever. I did counter terrorism at

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Speaker 1: the CIA, and then for the Intelligence Division of the NYPD,

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Speaker 1: which is the largest police department in the country. As

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Speaker 1: I'm sure many of you know, UH and as my hometown,

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Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a New York or born, born and

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Speaker 1: raised right here in the city. Uh. The anti anarchist

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Speaker 1: terrorist groups in the NYPD or the anti uh Neo

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Speaker 1: Nazi terrorist groups in the YPD, there are people are

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Speaker 1: as signed to those issues. They weren't particularly busy. This

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Speaker 1: is just a statement of reality. They didn't have a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of work to do day in and day

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Speaker 1: out on those specific terrorism cases. Right. There's just not

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Speaker 1: a lot of it going on. Meanwhile, from my own

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Speaker 1: experience working in the NYPD, the Islamic extremist terrorist cases

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Speaker 1: were plentiful. That shouldn't come as a surpriably any of you,

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Speaker 1: because you pay attention, you know what's going on. I

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Speaker 1: in fact pulled the latest FBI latest FBI news about terrorism,

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Speaker 1: specifically terrorism news what the FBI calls it, and it's

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Speaker 1: just isis iceless. Islamic state isis so listening murder of

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Speaker 1: US military members, lying, lying in obstructive justice in a

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Speaker 1: isis terrorism case life in prison for attempted possession, attempted

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Speaker 1: possession of a weapon of mass destruction, and providing material

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Speaker 1: support to a terrorist organization. You just go down this list.

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Speaker 1: These are jihad jih hottest incident after jeh hottest incident

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Speaker 1: from the last month. That that that that is the

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Speaker 1: terrorism news in this country for the last month. I

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Speaker 1: didn't find. I mean I might have missed one. I

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Speaker 1: didn't find a single incident to the FBI, brought a

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Speaker 1: case forward with the U. S. Attorney's Office and didn't

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Speaker 1: and that was anything other than jehottest terrorism. But we're

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Speaker 1: told that the real threat is from right wing terrorism.

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Speaker 1: I guess my eyes deceived me, and it's just I'm

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Speaker 1: lucky this time. I suppose when I went searching on

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Speaker 1: the FBI database that every incident of the last month

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Speaker 1: was a g hottest Muslim terrorist as opposed to a

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Speaker 1: right wing terrorist. But we're with the right wing terrorists,

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Speaker 1: so they're really you know that this is what the

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Speaker 1: smart people in d C, in hell A and New

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Speaker 1: York that they say the right wing terrorist the ones

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Speaker 1: we really if be worried about. Okay, well, what's the

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Speaker 1: right wing terrorist. According to this government accountability report, if

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Speaker 1: a neo Nazi gets into a brawl and stab somebody

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Speaker 1: outside of a bar, that may be considered right wing terrorism.

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Speaker 1: Now it's murder, it's horrific, should be extreme punishment for

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Speaker 1: somebody who does that. But terrorism, Wow, that's This is

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Speaker 1: another version of the debate we've had in the past

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Speaker 1: over what counts as terrorism, And this is the way

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Speaker 1: the left comes at this. They will go to the

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Speaker 1: FBI database, and in this case today I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: violent cases, but they'll even look at just acts of

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Speaker 1: political criminality and say that that's terrorism. So lighting SUVs

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Speaker 1: on fire, if you're an eco terrorist, or you know,

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Speaker 1: hateful rhetoric scrawled on the side of a building, you know,

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Speaker 1: they'll say that that's a terrorist hate crime. What they

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Speaker 1: count as a violent terror or sorry, as a terrorist

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Speaker 1: incident varies dramatically, such that someone who lets a bunch

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Speaker 1: of laboratory animals loose so they can't be experimented on

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Speaker 1: that counts is one under the way the left will

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Speaker 1: look at these numbers, and a very serious, you know,

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Speaker 1: lethal incident like the Boston marathon bombing which killed two

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Speaker 1: or was it three? Um and could have killed hundreds.

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Speaker 1: That's counted as one incident as well. I mean, this

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Speaker 1: is just why are they so dishonest? Why are they

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Speaker 1: so disingenuous? And then we get into even more of

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Speaker 1: the decontextualization of terrorism for the purposes of once again,

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Speaker 1: it's all about making this point. Gee, Hottest, terrorism overstated,

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Speaker 1: right wing terrorism understated. That's what they wanted to believe.

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Speaker 1: That is the exact Well, I don't geehda. Terrorism is

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Speaker 1: not uh overstated in my view, it's more or less

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Speaker 1: where it should be in terms of our consciousness. But

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Speaker 1: right wing terrorism as a major threat against us, and

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Speaker 1: I want to finish this line of thought. On the

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Speaker 1: other side of the break, let me. I've got to

881
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Speaker 1: talk to you about the Iran deal, the latest on that.

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Speaker 1: I was gonna hit it yesterday, but I wanted to

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Speaker 1: bring on an expert in terrorism finance. So we've got

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Speaker 1: somebody joining on that. We've got the author of the

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Speaker 1: Hillary book. I've got three hours of show and we're

886
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Speaker 1: already halfway through the show, So I'm gonnad you stay

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Speaker 1: with me eight four four to five. And also, if

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Speaker 1: you want to check out my peace sorry jeehot is

889
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Speaker 1: um is a much bigger threat than anything right wing

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Speaker 1: buck Sexton dot com. My friends, be right back. All right,

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Speaker 1: We've got Frank on the line here. Frank, Welcome to

892
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Speaker 1: the Freedom Hunt. Oh Frank, bon bonjeour, Hello, Frank, Hey,

893
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Speaker 1: how you doing good? Um? You were talking about the

894
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:14,719
Speaker 1: terrorists acts and stuff from the Politico. Yeah, well, well

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Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about Politico and the RANDO and the

896
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Speaker 1: release of National Security threat proliferators in a few minutes.

897
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Speaker 1: But I was talking about terrorist incidents in the US

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Speaker 1: just now from a Government Accountability Office report. Yeah, that

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Speaker 1: was that was crazy. Uh. You know, as an American American,

900
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Speaker 1: I'm getting tired, sick and tired of this propaganda that

901
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:43,359
Speaker 1: they spew out. And you know, I spent all day

902
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Speaker 1: posting that article from Political about the Iran deal. New

903
00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: information has come to light, and you know, all these

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Speaker 1: leftists on on you know, they just denied, they start

905
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Speaker 1: posting mimis discounting the credit, it's fake news and all this,

906
00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 1: and I'm thinking, how dead can the liberals actually be? Frank,

907
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Speaker 1: I went on, I went on TV at CNN when

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Speaker 1: the cash exchange happened for hostages with Obama, and I

909
00:55:08,640 --> 00:55:11,480
Speaker 1: was like this, And I said, guys, can we this

910
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Speaker 1: is a ransom payment? Okay? When when the hostages don't

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00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:17,800
Speaker 1: get released until the cash arrives UH, and there is

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Speaker 1: an exchange that happens as a result of that cash.

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Speaker 1: That is a that that is paying a ransom for hostages.

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Speaker 1: That that is all that is where they can call

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Speaker 1: it whatever they want, right they can call it a

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Speaker 1: trip to to never Neverland. I don't care. It is

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Speaker 1: a ransom payment. And people would see in a national

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Speaker 1: security experts so called we're looking at me like this

919
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Speaker 1: kid's crazy. Oh so I worked at the CIA, what

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Speaker 1: do you know? It's like, dude, this is a ransom payment?

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Speaker 1: All right? Can we can we stop with it? Oh? No?

922
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Speaker 1: They they they thought I was crazy, And now we

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Speaker 1: find out they weren't even honest about the releases they

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Speaker 1: did or the UH choice not to prosecute. I should

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Speaker 1: say a number of individuals UH involved in weapons proliferation,

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Speaker 1: including possibly lethal proliferation efforts against our troops in Iraq,

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Speaker 1: I might add, but Frank I I find I find

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Speaker 1: the Left disgraceful, as you know, it's disgusting, and I

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Speaker 1: posted it on Facebook all day, you know, putting the

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Speaker 1: links to the thing and making a comment and postment.

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Speaker 1: My account got disabled. Oh that might have been for

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Speaker 1: posting too frequently, but I don't know. Um, but check

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Speaker 1: out buck Sexton dot com. That's a fun place where

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Speaker 1: me a favorite Frank rock and roll man shield Tai.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for calling in, um, speaking of box x

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Speaker 1: We're not quite there yet. We're just we're getting all

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Speaker 1: this stuff rolling. Um I okay, I mentioned this is

942
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Speaker 1: all from bux x and dot com. The piece is sorry,

943
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Speaker 1: jehotis m is a much bigger threat than anything quote

944
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Speaker 1: right wing, which you know instinctively. But I want to

945
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Speaker 1: give you all the arguments here. First of all, cutting

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Speaker 1: nine eleven off the list is preposterous and dishonest when

947
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Speaker 1: you're trying to account for terrorist sacks and violent terror

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Speaker 1: stacks on US soil. The fact that they don't count

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Speaker 1: disrupted plots. I mean, the underwear bomber could have killed

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Speaker 1: over two people on Christmas Day. If that bomb had

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Speaker 1: just gone off a little differently, But that doesn't even

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Speaker 1: get counted here. And the threat, how can you assess

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Speaker 1: a threat and not look at attempt You know what,

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Speaker 1: would would you if you were talking about the risk

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Speaker 1: of a of a in a foreign country of public

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Speaker 1: officials and assassination and there have been a lot of

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Speaker 1: attempts on them, wouldn't you count that as part of

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Speaker 1: the risk or not. We're only gonna count times when

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Speaker 1: the bad guys are successful. They don't count disrupted plots.

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Speaker 1: They don't count resources that are allocated specifically against jeehot

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Speaker 1: is Um. We have the t s A in place

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Speaker 1: to prevent Isis al Qaeda at other groups like them

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Speaker 1: from blowing up planes, not because of neo Nazis. And

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Speaker 1: also it doesn't take into account the jihot is Um

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Speaker 1: is a strategic threat intended to destroy Western civilization in America.

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Speaker 1: With it wor buck Sexton dot com. I'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: The Freedom Hunt rocks online too. You can hang out

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Speaker 1: and analysis go to buck Sexton dot com buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: dot com, that's buck Sexton dot com. Shields High come

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Speaker 1: back everyone, Big story from over the weekend published in

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Speaker 1: Political of all places about some aspects of Obama's Iran

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Speaker 1: deal and the negotiations and the concessions made that we

974
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 1: were certainly not aware of before. Uh. It seems that

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Speaker 1: the administration told us that there was a one time

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Speaker 1: gesture of releasing some Iranians who were quote not charged

977
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Speaker 1: with any terrorism or violent offenses, but from what politicals reporting,

978
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:53,640
Speaker 1: were very important pieces in proliferation and in acquiring weapons

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Speaker 1: for the Iranian state. These individuals were national security risks

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Speaker 1: to talk to us about us Now we're joined by

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Speaker 1: Dr Janet Jonathan Schanzer. He senior vice president at the

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Speaker 1: Foundation for Defense of Democracies and he was a terrorism

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Speaker 1: finance analyst at the U. S Department of the Treasury,

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Speaker 1: so he knows this stuff backwards and fords. Dr Shans

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Speaker 1: are great to have you, Thanks for having me. But

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Speaker 1: I'm sure you read this political piece, political piece, and

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00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:20,840
Speaker 1: we're just thinking to yourself, oh my, uh, what what

988
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:25,000
Speaker 1: is the so what here? The obaministration, it seems like,

989
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 1: was pretty dishonest at a minimum with the American people

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Speaker 1: about what they were doing here. At first, tell everybody

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Speaker 1: what they were doing, Give us, give us some of

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00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: the specifics. Okay, So essentially what we've all heard about

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Speaker 1: already was that the Obama administration did make uh what

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Speaker 1: I think we now recognize as a ransom payment to

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Speaker 1: UH to ensure the release of Jason Resignan from the

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Speaker 1: Washington Post. UH, and that in the process we also

997
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Speaker 1: sent roughly one point seven billion dollars in cash on

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Speaker 1: pallets to Iran to ensure that this happened. Well, we're

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Speaker 1: now eLearning as well is that there were uh I

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Speaker 1: think it was fourteen fourteen men or fifteen men uh

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Speaker 1: that were um that were here in the United States.

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Speaker 1: They were in US custody, and appears that we've now

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Speaker 1: uh or that the administration released them. Uh. Some of

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Speaker 1: these people were directly involved in sanctions busting or other

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Speaker 1: illegal activity, uh, you know, sending legal antennas or i e. D.

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Speaker 1: Equipment a range of things. And it was appear now

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Speaker 1: that the Obama administration let them off the hook to

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Speaker 1: ensure the success of the j c p o A

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Speaker 1: otherwise known as the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, the

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Speaker 1: Nuclear Deal. And so the goal here was to ensure

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Speaker 1: that we appease the Iranians. This is not a huge

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Speaker 1: surprise to those of us who've been watching the administration

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Speaker 1: unwind sanctions and I think really cough up concessions that

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Speaker 1: the Iranians did not deserve, and it was why many

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Speaker 1: of us were opposed to the nuclear deal. But we're

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Speaker 1: now learning that there are just more and more specifics

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Speaker 1: here that are cringe worthy. Uh, too many patriotic Americans. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the deal that many of us already thought was was

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Speaker 1: flawed and showed far too much of an eagerness on

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Speaker 1: the part of the Obama administration to just get a deal.

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Speaker 1: Looks even worse than it did before. This is a

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Speaker 1: quote from the political piece itself. When federal prosecutors and

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Speaker 1: agents learned the true extent of the releases, many were

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Speaker 1: shocked and angry. Some had spent years, if not decades,

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Speaker 1: working to penetrate the global proliferation networks that allowed Iranian

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Speaker 1: arms traders both to obtain crucial materials for Tehran's LSTIT

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Speaker 1: nuclear and ballistic missile programs and in some cases, to

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Speaker 1: provide dangerous materials to other countries. Uh. This this would

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Speaker 1: seem like something that we should have been informed at

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Speaker 1: the time, instead of finding out after the fact. That's right.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I mean, look, at the end of

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Speaker 1: the day, the president does have uh enormous power. Um,

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Speaker 1: and we like to think about that firewall between the

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Speaker 1: Justice to part and the White House. But at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, the president can issue waivers and

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Speaker 1: and and get cases dismissed. The judge ultimately has to

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Speaker 1: agree to dismiss um. But the president also can commute

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Speaker 1: sentences and can white records clean. Uh. This appears to

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Speaker 1: have been the case here as I understand it, within

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Speaker 1: the Justice Department. Uh there. Uh let's just say there

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Speaker 1: were some frustration resulting from this, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I mean, these are people whose job it is to

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Speaker 1: uh to bring these proliferators and sanctions busters to justice,

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Speaker 1: and they watched, uh you know, they essentially watched the

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Speaker 1: minimization of their job by a handful of people in

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Speaker 1: the White House for a deal that was again deeply

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Speaker 1: flawed from the outset. One of these individuals, according to

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Speaker 1: this piece, uh, I'm in Ravan was charged with quote

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Speaker 1: smuggling US military antennas to Hong Kong and Singapore for

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Speaker 1: use in Iran. US authorities also believe he was part

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Speaker 1: of a procurement network providing Iran with high tech comppponents

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Speaker 1: for an especially deadly type of I E D used

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Speaker 1: by Shiite militias to kill hundreds of American troops in Iraq. Uh.

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Speaker 1: That means, if this is true, and if that is

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Speaker 1: in fact what happened here, Jonathan, it would seem that

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Speaker 1: they let go somebody who has the blood of American

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Speaker 1: servicemen on his hands. That's right, uh. And and this

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Speaker 1: is actually really not surprisingly. One of the things that

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Speaker 1: that we've been talking about here at FTD for quite

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Speaker 1: some time is the fact that uh that we're about

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Speaker 1: to make a deal uh with Boeing and Iran Air,

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Speaker 1: that Boeing is about h to sell um dozens of

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Speaker 1: aircraft to Iran Air. And the amazing thing is is

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Speaker 1: the Obama Justice Department issued an indictment I believe it

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Speaker 1: was two thousand and ten, maybe two thousand eleven, uh

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Speaker 1: indicating that that Iran Air itself was involved in the

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Speaker 1: shipping of I E D parts uh to Iraq and

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Speaker 1: UH and that that that it was responsible for the

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Speaker 1: deaf and naming of U S servicemen. So what we're

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Speaker 1: seeing here is a pattern at this point that we're

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Speaker 1: looking we're willing to turn a blind eye, or the

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Speaker 1: Obama white House was willing to turn a blind eye

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Speaker 1: to terrorism and even the killing of Americans, not just

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Speaker 1: the killing of Israelis or Europeans for that matter, but

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Speaker 1: for Americans. They were willing to turn a blind eye

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Speaker 1: if only they could just get this nuclear deal deal done.

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Speaker 1: And it really I think relies a certain amount of

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01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: desperation on the part of Obama to get this deal

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01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,960
Speaker 1: done um and and really a willful blindness to the

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Speaker 1: kind of UH dangers that the deal might pose when

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Speaker 1: we left the non nuclear issues off the table, the terrorism,

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01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 1: human rights and other violations that should have been part

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Speaker 1: of a comprehensive deal if we were in fact to

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Speaker 1: sign one. So the just to just to look at

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Speaker 1: the scoreboard here, the Iranians got, uh how a hundred

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Speaker 1: and fifty billion unfrozen over the course of the deal?

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Speaker 1: Is that? Is that the proper number? I've heard different numbers. Well,

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Speaker 1: that's right. There was also the j p o A,

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Speaker 1: the interim deal, or hundreds of millions of dollars were

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Speaker 1: being released per per month u UM, and I believe

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Speaker 1: it ended up coming up to somewhere around one point

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Speaker 1: eight billion, So a hundred fifty million was released and

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Speaker 1: one point eight billion is the total. Yeah, a hundred

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01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:13,160
Speaker 1: fifty billion was released with a B and then there

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Speaker 1: was a smaller amount of Okay, that's what I initially thought.

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Speaker 1: I was like, well, I gotta get my millions of

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Speaker 1: my billion trees. It was a hundred fifty billion, and

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Speaker 1: that's unfrozen. How does that work? That's not well, there

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01:05:23,560 --> 01:05:28,040
Speaker 1: were um escrow accounts UH that we had made for

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Speaker 1: the Iranians. Basically, in two thousand and twelve, we froze

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01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: all oil and made sure that if the Iranians wanted

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Speaker 1: to use that money that they would have to access

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01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,680
Speaker 1: accounts from places like China and South Korea, Turkey, and

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01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:45,640
Speaker 1: if they wanted to buy humanitarian goods approved goods, they could,

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01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 1: but otherwise those funds would sit in those accounts. What

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01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:52,280
Speaker 1: we did for the nuclear deal is we released all

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01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:55,919
Speaker 1: the funds from those accounts UH and they've gone back

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01:05:55,960 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 1: to the government of Iran and as as we've now

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01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:01,200
Speaker 1: found out, we also have sent UH some of it

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01:06:01,240 --> 01:06:05,320
Speaker 1: in cash and we put them back on the Swift

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01:06:05,360 --> 01:06:08,360
Speaker 1: system as it's called. This is an electronic transfer system

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Speaker 1: that will allow Iran to bank anywhere around the world,

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01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:13,960
Speaker 1: so it means they can move this money as they

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Speaker 1: see fit. And then we also have relaxed sanctions such

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Speaker 1: that you now have European companies that are now coming

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Speaker 1: back into Iran and investing, and so there is that

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Speaker 1: additional booth that we can't quite quantify yet. So there

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Speaker 1: was all the money that we've returned to them, and

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01:06:32,320 --> 01:06:34,480
Speaker 1: now there is what they're going to get from the

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Speaker 1: kind of the natural economic growth that comes from being

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01:06:38,120 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 1: taken off the sanctions list. So this is just the

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01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,720
Speaker 1: exponential growth for the Iranians. And again it's it's incredibly

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Speaker 1: important important to point out here, but they are still

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Speaker 1: a state sponsor of terrorism, so designated by the State's Apartment.

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Speaker 1: They still have a three eleven from the Patriot Act

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Speaker 1: slapped on their banks to ensure that the international community

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Speaker 1: knows that this is an unsafe jurisdiction for for financing anything.

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Speaker 1: So the thing is is that none of the behaviors

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Speaker 1: have changed at all. We have just decided to give

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Speaker 1: them all of these perks for simply agreeing to mothball

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01:07:13,560 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: their nuclear program for about fifteen years. Well that's what

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01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 1: I was going to ask you what are the concessions

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Speaker 1: that they have made. They lose seventy percent of their

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Speaker 1: stockpile of enriched uranium and give up fourteen thousand of

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01:07:28,120 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 1: their twenty thousand centrifuges. That that's that's a from a

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01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: left wing side to see that's supposed to be what

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Speaker 1: the downside is for the Iranians. Is that accurate? Or

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01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 1: is that that's that's accurate? And you know, I mean

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01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:43,000
Speaker 1: they they've stopped operating out of certain facilities and uh,

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01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,640
Speaker 1: you know, but the real downside, and we talked about

1141
01:07:45,680 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 1: this last week, Buck, is that you know, they're still

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01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 1: mastering the delivery system, They're still working on ballistic missiles,

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01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:56,160
Speaker 1: they're still mastering the centerfuge technology. Uh. And so essentially

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01:07:56,240 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 1: what it means is that when they are ready to

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01:07:58,120 --> 01:08:00,600
Speaker 1: get back to the business of spinning large numbers and

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01:08:00,640 --> 01:08:03,680
Speaker 1: center huges enriching uranium at a higher rate, they are

1147
01:08:03,720 --> 01:08:07,040
Speaker 1: going to be h really right on the cusp of

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01:08:07,080 --> 01:08:09,680
Speaker 1: a nuclear weapon and there's gonna be very little that

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01:08:09,720 --> 01:08:12,640
Speaker 1: anybody can do to stop it. In the meantime, Also,

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01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: they haven't had to curb any of the other malign

1151
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:19,040
Speaker 1: activities that they've been engaged in UH since the Islamic

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01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:21,840
Speaker 1: Republic was founded in nineteen seventy nine. In other words,

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01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:25,320
Speaker 1: all the terrorism, all of the the unrest that they're

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01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:29,680
Speaker 1: creating around the region, all of the human rights violations

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01:08:29,680 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 1: at home, their cyber activity, none of these things have stopped.

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01:08:33,600 --> 01:08:37,200
Speaker 1: They did not have to agree to do anything on

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01:08:37,240 --> 01:08:39,799
Speaker 1: those counts. And that's why the deal was so terrible,

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01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: is that they're gonna have UH that nuclear program in

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01:08:42,840 --> 01:08:45,320
Speaker 1: a decade and a half, and meanwhile, they're gonna be

1160
01:08:45,360 --> 01:08:47,840
Speaker 1: a lot richer and they're gonna be still the number

1161
01:08:47,840 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: one state sponsor of terrorism short of full regime change

1162
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Speaker 1: in Iran. What do you think the Trump administration should

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01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,200
Speaker 1: do starting from where they are right now. Well, I

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01:08:57,200 --> 01:08:59,120
Speaker 1: think the first thing is to get an assessment of

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01:08:59,160 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 1: how the nuclear um it has been implemented. And I

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01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,439
Speaker 1: think you know, so what we've seen so far is

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01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:07,040
Speaker 1: that they have agreed that that I run has kept

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01:09:07,080 --> 01:09:10,960
Speaker 1: to the deal, but they need to be incredibly vigilant UM.

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Speaker 1: We need to address the ballistic mission missile issue UH

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01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 1: that I think there needs to be new resolutions at

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01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 1: the u N, perhaps new sanctions internationally on the ballistic missiles.

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Speaker 1: We cannot allow them to continue to develop this technology

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01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:26,600
Speaker 1: for the delivery of a nuclear program. And then on

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01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,759
Speaker 1: top of that, we need to start to issue new

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01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:33,040
Speaker 1: non nuclear sanctions. So going after their support for Hamas,

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01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,519
Speaker 1: for their support for his law, for those Shiite militias

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01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: that have attacked U S servicemen in Iraq, uh in Afghanistan,

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01:09:39,280 --> 01:09:41,160
Speaker 1: we need to take a look at their cyber activity

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01:09:41,160 --> 01:09:43,800
Speaker 1: and sanction them for that. We should probably go after

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01:09:43,880 --> 01:09:47,320
Speaker 1: the entire Islamic Revolutionary Guard Core, the i r g

1181
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,439
Speaker 1: C as it's known, which is their number one sponsor

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01:09:50,479 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 1: of terrorism within the country, but also controls roughly thirty

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01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:58,200
Speaker 1: or forty of Iran's economy. So these things I think

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01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: are all good first steps. Um, but there needs to

1185
01:10:01,400 --> 01:10:06,640
Speaker 1: be a whole government approach to essentially swarting Iran's nuclear ambitions.

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01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:10,240
Speaker 1: That the Obama administration really we sit. We saw this

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01:10:10,320 --> 01:10:13,880
Speaker 1: from the from the political piece. The Obama administration just

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01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,040
Speaker 1: did not want war, did not want the confrontation, and

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01:10:17,080 --> 01:10:19,840
Speaker 1: so they kick the can down the road. I think

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01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:22,080
Speaker 1: they would even say that that is the case, that

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01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,840
Speaker 1: no one in the administration says that they've stopped the

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01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,960
Speaker 1: nuclear program. What they've done is they've paused it, and

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01:10:28,120 --> 01:10:31,240
Speaker 1: we need now need to have a White House that

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01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,920
Speaker 1: is determined to end the program. Uh and to ensure

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01:10:34,960 --> 01:10:37,439
Speaker 1: that Iran never gets a nuclear weapon, because I can

1196
01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:41,120
Speaker 1: tell you it would be one of the more destabilizing

1197
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:43,760
Speaker 1: elements to ever hit the Middle East, which has never

1198
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 1: exactly been stable in the first place. Dr Jonathan Schanzerund

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Speaker 1: of the Foundation for Defense of Democracy is great to

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01:10:49,880 --> 01:10:53,839
Speaker 1: have you, Jonathan, Thanks for calling in anytime, team gonnahead

1201
01:10:53,840 --> 01:11:00,679
Speaker 1: a break here, will be right back. So the president's daughter,

1202
01:11:00,880 --> 01:11:06,840
Speaker 1: one of his daughters, was over in Germany at the

1203
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:12,040
Speaker 1: W twenty summit in Berlin, and here is what's getting

1204
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:15,040
Speaker 1: the headlines today. Here's part of how she was received

1205
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:24,080
Speaker 1: by that crowd. He's champion of supporting balance and the

1206
01:11:24,200 --> 01:11:35,519
Speaker 1: new reality from the audience, hissing, booing, moaning. So Ivanka Trump,

1207
01:11:35,560 --> 01:11:39,400
Speaker 1: who has a role as an advisor in her father's

1208
01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:45,719
Speaker 1: White House, UM, I tend to well, we shall see

1209
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:50,080
Speaker 1: how that plays out. But I just am struck by

1210
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: what a difference you see in the reception, not just

1211
01:11:54,320 --> 01:11:58,200
Speaker 1: from the media, but the reception that a member of

1212
01:11:58,280 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: this first found they receives. And she's also a public

1213
01:12:02,160 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: figure and an advisor to the president. So this is

1214
01:12:04,479 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: different than you know, president who has a twelve year

1215
01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,880
Speaker 1: old daughter or son or something. I understand that, Um,

1216
01:12:10,439 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: but the way that she is heckled by this crowd

1217
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 1: or booed by this crowd, hiss that it just goes

1218
01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,880
Speaker 1: to show you that even though it is well known

1219
01:12:22,000 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: that she does not have a particularly conservative outlook, UM,

1220
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 1: she is treated with scorn by some. And I just

1221
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:37,960
Speaker 1: have to think to the difference you see between the

1222
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:43,320
Speaker 1: propping up of adult Chelsea Clinton, who is on the

1223
01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:48,479
Speaker 1: cover of magazines dressed and it looked like it was

1224
01:12:48,800 --> 01:12:51,120
Speaker 1: a parody and I don't mean that her And that's

1225
01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:53,360
Speaker 1: not a knock on her appearance so much. It's it's

1226
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 1: a knock on the presentation, the way that they there's

1227
01:12:57,040 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 1: so much airbrushing, a leather jacket and as you know,

1228
01:13:00,120 --> 01:13:03,759
Speaker 1: giants smile and on variety they're giving her a lifetime

1229
01:13:03,800 --> 01:13:07,400
Speaker 1: Achievement award for Chelsea, it's there. There are no achievements.

1230
01:13:07,439 --> 01:13:11,800
Speaker 1: Her achievement as being Chelsea Clinton. UM. Ivanka has been

1231
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,799
Speaker 1: a part of the Trump organization and a public figure

1232
01:13:14,960 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: and spokesperson and executive for uh many years now. UM,

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01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:22,840
Speaker 1: I'll leave it to you to decide how much of

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01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:27,000
Speaker 1: that you choose to revere or admire and how much

1235
01:13:27,000 --> 01:13:28,679
Speaker 1: of that you think is just a function of being

1236
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,360
Speaker 1: a Trump. But at least she's been out there doing stuff,

1237
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:38,680
Speaker 1: and yet she's treated this way by a number of onlookers.

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01:13:38,680 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: At the W twenty summit in bertlin, Um, she was

1239
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 1: also asked about her role as first daughter. Here's what

1240
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 1: she said, What is your role and whom are you representing?

1241
01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:54,920
Speaker 1: Your your father as the President of the United States,

1242
01:13:55,000 --> 01:13:59,719
Speaker 1: the American people, or your business? Well, certainly not the latter,

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01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:04,080
Speaker 1: and I am rather unfamiliar with this role as well

1244
01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:06,799
Speaker 1: as it is quite new to me. It has been

1245
01:14:06,840 --> 01:14:11,360
Speaker 1: a little under a hundred days, so doesn't really have

1246
01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: a clear answer to the question. But I also think

1247
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 1: it should be noted are you here as a representative

1248
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,959
Speaker 1: of your business? That's that's meant to be a knock,

1249
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:25,080
Speaker 1: that's sny, that's not a a fair minded question. That's

1250
01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,559
Speaker 1: taking in this notion that Ivanka is out there on

1251
01:14:29,640 --> 01:14:34,080
Speaker 1: uh representing the United States, but really representing her business.

1252
01:14:34,120 --> 01:14:36,479
Speaker 1: It is always lost on some of these media types

1253
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:42,640
Speaker 1: that the president and his daughter and his sons, or

1254
01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: his daughter or he has more than one daughter. Are

1255
01:14:45,200 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: not in such desperate need of cash that they would,

1256
01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:52,560
Speaker 1: I think, do many of the things that those in

1257
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:55,800
Speaker 1: the media believe that they're willing to do, and that

1258
01:14:55,880 --> 01:14:59,360
Speaker 1: there's this corruption that at the heart of every Trump

1259
01:14:59,439 --> 01:15:03,200
Speaker 1: action an enterprise. Um I I just still don't see it.

1260
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 1: And I know that people look at me and they

1261
01:15:05,520 --> 01:15:09,200
Speaker 1: just shake their heads and how do you not understand

1262
01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:11,640
Speaker 1: what's going on here? And they also said that to

1263
01:15:11,680 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 1: me about the Rush allegations, and I'm still waiting on that,

1264
01:15:13,840 --> 01:15:16,920
Speaker 1: although we will talk about the latest with General Flynn

1265
01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:18,920
Speaker 1: in the next hour. And I gotta tell you it's

1266
01:15:18,960 --> 01:15:23,479
Speaker 1: not it's not good. Um. I went through the process

1267
01:15:23,520 --> 01:15:25,879
Speaker 1: of getting a security clearance and went through those forms,

1268
01:15:25,920 --> 01:15:28,559
Speaker 1: and I can tell just as I said, I would

1269
01:15:28,600 --> 01:15:30,799
Speaker 1: never have been Not only would I have not accepted

1270
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:35,439
Speaker 1: a paid contributorship to r T, I certainly would not

1271
01:15:35,479 --> 01:15:38,360
Speaker 1: have left off payments from a foreign government, which is

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01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 1: the allegation right now on any official government background or

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01:15:43,960 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 1: financial disclosure forms. That's a pretty big one that that

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Speaker 1: is not really Now, that doesn't mean that all the

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Speaker 1: other stuff that Russia is true at all. And I

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Speaker 1: still don't buy that. But you know. We we've got

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Speaker 1: a call balls and strikes here and you can't you

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01:16:01,200 --> 01:16:03,360
Speaker 1: can't fill out of a form that says this is

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Speaker 1: the you know, this is I. I believe this all

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Speaker 1: to be true and accurate to the best of my ability.

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01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:13,360
Speaker 1: That Mrs huge Bright, red flag glaring stuff and payments

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Speaker 1: from a foreign government when you're about to become a

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Speaker 1: national security advisor that qualifies, that's a that's not good.

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Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if there maybe there's an explanation for

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Speaker 1: it that I don't know. We will see, But I

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Speaker 1: was just taken aback a little bit by the reception

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Speaker 1: that Ivanka gets in a foreign country. Could you just

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Speaker 1: think of this? Would you ever have thought for one

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Speaker 1: second that if Michelle Obama went to the W twenty summit,

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Speaker 1: Buck sextendent with America. Now the Freedom Hut is fired

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01:16:45,800 --> 01:16:50,080
Speaker 1: up as Team Buck assembles shoulder to shoulder, shields high

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01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:54,280
Speaker 1: call in eight four four nine hundred buck. That's eight

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Speaker 1: four four d to eight to five. There have been

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Speaker 1: two presidential cycles and during which Hillary Clinton was by

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Speaker 1: many people expected to be the next president United States.

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Speaker 1: In fact, some even thought she might be inevitable. But

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Speaker 1: it wasn't to be. So what happened? Amy Parnes joins

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Speaker 1: us now. She's co author of the brand new book

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Speaker 1: Shattered Inside Hillary Clinton's Doomed Campaign. Amy, thank you so

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01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 1: much for calling in. Thank you for having me. Buck.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with the most basic obvious question here. What

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01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:33,479
Speaker 1: went wrong? Uh? Well, so my co author and I

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01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:37,559
Speaker 1: are We spent two years working on this book and

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01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,240
Speaker 1: we tried to piece that together. You know, at first

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01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:42,240
Speaker 1: we started, we thought that she was going to win

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01:17:42,560 --> 01:17:46,839
Speaker 1: going in UM, and then we started seeing little problems

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01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:52,320
Speaker 1: along the way UM and red flags and some internal turmoil,

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01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 1: and so we UM we basically pieced it together, and

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01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:59,840
Speaker 1: we thought it was a messaging problem and some mismanagement

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01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:03,799
Speaker 1: and UM because of that mismanagement, there were some people

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01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,360
Speaker 1: who were UM elevated and some people who were demoted.

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01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,800
Speaker 1: And there was the creation of what was UM kind

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01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:13,280
Speaker 1: of a board of directors type thing that was called

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01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 1: the Super six UM where UM six different people kind

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01:18:17,320 --> 01:18:20,519
Speaker 1: of managed various facets of the campaign. And all this

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01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:24,559
Speaker 1: kind of happened under wraps UM at largely unreported. So

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Speaker 1: I think there were a lot of problems there. Yeah,

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01:18:27,680 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 1: so those give us that's a good sense of some

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01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:34,160
Speaker 1: of the general problems that came up in places where

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01:18:34,200 --> 01:18:36,840
Speaker 1: there was clearly room for improvement, to put it mildly

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Speaker 1: in the in the campaign apparatus. But let's let's start

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Speaker 1: with strategy, and then I might ask you about some

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Speaker 1: individual personalities in retrospect. What was what was a failure

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Speaker 1: with regard to strategy for the Hillary Clinton campaign? I

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Speaker 1: think a big one was messaging, as I just mentioned,

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Speaker 1: and another one was the over reliance on data and analytics.

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Speaker 1: We can you can tell so you said, message, okay, messaging,

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01:19:00,920 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 1: how what what? What do you what was wrong? So

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01:19:04,160 --> 01:19:08,200
Speaker 1: dating back to her speech on Roosevelt Roosevelt Island that

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01:19:08,280 --> 01:19:12,559
Speaker 1: she gave in UH June or July, I think she

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Speaker 1: basically um Even internally her advisors were saying that there

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01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:21,600
Speaker 1: was no core message, There was no simple message for

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Speaker 1: why she was running, and that was problematic. And she

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Speaker 1: even brought in UH former Obama speechwriter John Favrow to

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Speaker 1: help UH work on it, and he was even frustrated

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01:19:31,920 --> 01:19:35,040
Speaker 1: and left kind of before the speech was even done.

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Speaker 1: He was just exasperated by the process because he was

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Speaker 1: used to working strictly with President Obama. And maybe one advisor.

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Speaker 1: Did he have to go through the gauntlet of what

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01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: was it the the the the High Council or whatever

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01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:49,080
Speaker 1: it was. You just said a second, there were no

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Speaker 1: that was the super six was created to super six.

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01:19:53,280 --> 01:19:56,599
Speaker 1: But um, But basically he was um. He wasn't used

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01:19:56,640 --> 01:19:59,479
Speaker 1: to so many cooks in the kitchen. There were too

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01:19:59,479 --> 01:20:02,400
Speaker 1: many people kind of moving the speech and no one

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01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:05,639
Speaker 1: kind of steering the ship. Um. And that's why there

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01:20:05,640 --> 01:20:07,920
Speaker 1: were too many ideas in the speech and it got

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01:20:08,000 --> 01:20:12,120
Speaker 1: kind of convoluted. And and even now when advisors kind

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01:20:12,120 --> 01:20:15,680
Speaker 1: of hear it, they point to that speech as very

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01:20:15,720 --> 01:20:18,960
Speaker 1: problematic because you know, as one person told us, anyone

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Speaker 1: in the Democratic Party could have given that speech. It wasn't.

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Speaker 1: It didn't. It was memorable for how unmemorable it was.

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Speaker 1: That's what I remember about it. So that's a good

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Speaker 1: a good place to start with the problems with Hillary's campaign.

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01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 1: But usually one would think that this kind of a book,

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Speaker 1: at least my impression would be that you'd have a

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Speaker 1: candidate who has ideas about what he or she in

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01:20:40,200 --> 01:20:42,880
Speaker 1: this case she should be all about, and then they

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Speaker 1: get pushed into different things by advisors and there's that

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01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,760
Speaker 1: give and take. Did did Hillary did. Did she have

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Speaker 1: a strong idea for what she was about and others

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01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:52,639
Speaker 1: talked her out of it, or did she just think

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01:20:52,640 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 1: I'm Hillary, like of course I should win. It's funny.

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Speaker 1: We talked to one senior advisor after the campaign who

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01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 1: basically said, I would have had a reason to run,

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Speaker 1: or I wouldn't have run. And that's actually the name

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Speaker 1: of chapter one. The title of chapter one, because even

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Speaker 1: and this is coming from a senior advisor inside her

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01:21:11,520 --> 01:21:14,639
Speaker 1: campaign who still was sort of grappling with that message,

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01:21:14,680 --> 01:21:17,960
Speaker 1: didn't really understand what she stood for, and she once

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Speaker 1: again became the inevitable candidate um and that was something

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Speaker 1: that kind of haunted her in two thousand eight and

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Speaker 1: something I think she was trying to get away from

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Speaker 1: in two sixteen and trying to kind of learn that lesson,

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Speaker 1: and and that didn't work out quite well. Inevitable turns

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01:21:33,200 --> 01:21:35,639
Speaker 1: or inevitable turns into entitled or at least it did

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Speaker 1: in the narrative from a lot of folks, including some

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01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 1: of the more mainstream press outlets that that I think

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Speaker 1: tended to be favorable towards Hillary. I think they said

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Speaker 1: she's running because she's Hillary, and she thinks she's gonna

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Speaker 1: win because she's Hillary m who is really a lot

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Speaker 1: of tender supporters actually, people who kind of never came

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Speaker 1: around for her in the general election. UM, and she

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01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:55,720
Speaker 1: could have used their votes. Oh yeah, that was a

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Speaker 1: fashionating dynamic. I remember sitting on panels over at CNN

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01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,800
Speaker 1: and saying, so, so we just are all okay, Like

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Speaker 1: I know I'm not part of your team, guys, but

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Speaker 1: you're all okay with just all the super delegate delegates

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Speaker 1: go to Hillary why and where? You know, nobody wanted

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Speaker 1: to hear that, except for the Birdie supporters who were like, yeah,

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01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:14,639
Speaker 1: why yeah, yeah, exactly exactly, And you know, there there

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01:22:14,720 --> 01:22:17,559
Speaker 1: wasn't that enthusiasm. I think some people were very excited

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Speaker 1: about her candidacy. Obviously, there's there are women of a

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Speaker 1: certain generation who wanted to see the first female president. UM.

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Speaker 1: But but there wasn't that excitement that was generated by

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Speaker 1: the Sanders campaign and across the aisle on the Trump

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Speaker 1: side too. Now. I read some excerpts from your book

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Speaker 1: and one of them it seems like Hillary comes because

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Speaker 1: this was after the Michigan primary. Uh, Michigan primary, which

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Speaker 1: did not go as planned for Hillary. UM. She seemed

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01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:47,360
Speaker 1: like she was stern with staff, and then Bill Clinton

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01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 1: came on the line and just kind of laid into everybody.

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Speaker 1: Tell us what happened there? Oh, yeah, that was that

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01:22:53,720 --> 01:22:56,920
Speaker 1: was actually before Michigan. It was UM in the email

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01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:01,599
Speaker 1: server summer, UM, where they were really frustrated that they

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Speaker 1: their message wasn't getting across. And in one call in particular, UM,

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01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,360
Speaker 1: they were both on the call for this one and

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Speaker 1: and she voiced her frustration and he basically told the

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Speaker 1: staff to get it together, UM and uh, to do

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Speaker 1: their jobs. UM. And and that was a memorable call.

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Speaker 1: And and that was one that kind of stuck out,

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Speaker 1: UM for for a lot of people, UM, who had

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Speaker 1: to be a part of it. UM. The other moment

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Speaker 1: I think you were referring to was after Michigan. Yeah,

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01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:34,599
Speaker 1: she had just suffered this loss. UM. Obviously it was UM.

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Speaker 1: It was frustrating her because she had spent so much

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Speaker 1: time in Flint, Michigan. She actually left New Hampshire to

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Speaker 1: go to Flint and spend time there, and you know,

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01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:45,960
Speaker 1: and she ends up losing in this kind of embarrassing moment.

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01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:48,640
Speaker 1: And uh so the next day is she's preparing in

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Speaker 1: Miami to uh, take the stage, she's preparing for a debate.

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01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:56,000
Speaker 1: She kind of she loses it in one moment and

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01:23:56,240 --> 01:23:58,679
Speaker 1: basically goes off on her staff and says, our message

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01:23:58,680 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: isn't getting through and we're not communicating effectively enough. And

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01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,400
Speaker 1: you know this this was this was pretty well into

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Speaker 1: the primary, and she's still struggling to kind of understand

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01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,640
Speaker 1: what's happening with the whole notion that she would be

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01:24:10,640 --> 01:24:13,799
Speaker 1: getting mad at staff because our message isn't it's her message.

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01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:15,920
Speaker 1: And and one of the things that I believe comes

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Speaker 1: across in the descriptions of of your book and I

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01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:21,000
Speaker 1: would like to get to it and read it as

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01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,679
Speaker 1: soon as I can, but is that there was really

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01:24:24,720 --> 01:24:27,400
Speaker 1: no ownership of the campaign with Hiller. It's it seemed

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01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:30,240
Speaker 1: like it was this consensus driven campaign that didn't have

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01:24:30,280 --> 01:24:32,400
Speaker 1: a consensus, but that, like you said, a lot of

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01:24:32,439 --> 01:24:34,960
Speaker 1: cooks in the kitchen and ultimately, there can only be

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01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:37,800
Speaker 1: one top chef. If I'm gonna borrow TV analogy here,

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01:24:37,800 --> 01:24:39,920
Speaker 1: there can only be one, and it's Hillary. And it

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01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,519
Speaker 1: doesn't sound like she ever really embrace that role of

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01:24:43,560 --> 01:24:47,080
Speaker 1: being in charge of how this campaign was going. No,

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01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,360
Speaker 1: and she, you know, she is the candidate, and so

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01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,040
Speaker 1: some of the blame does lie with her, obviously, but

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01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,200
Speaker 1: I think that one of the big problems was that

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01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:57,280
Speaker 1: she doesn't she didn't understand what was happening in the country,

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01:24:57,320 --> 01:24:59,800
Speaker 1: and she kind of vocalized that in one scene that

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01:24:59,840 --> 01:25:03,000
Speaker 1: we have in the book with Confidence. She's flying. This

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01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:06,080
Speaker 1: is post New Hampshire, and she's flying and having this

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01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:09,760
Speaker 1: candidate heart to heart conversation with this longtime advisor, and

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01:25:09,800 --> 01:25:13,479
Speaker 1: she's basically saying, I don't understand what's happening in the country.

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01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:16,840
Speaker 1: I can't wrap my head around it. Um. And this

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01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:20,360
Speaker 1: was problematic for her that you know, deep into um

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01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:23,280
Speaker 1: the primary season, she's still kind of that's her job.

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01:25:23,400 --> 01:25:25,479
Speaker 1: Her whole job is to understand what's happening in the

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Speaker 1: country and to and to be able to emote and

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01:25:27,479 --> 01:25:31,320
Speaker 1: communicate and discuss and problem solved, at least promise the

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01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:33,639
Speaker 1: problem solved. That she would even that that would even

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01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:37,320
Speaker 1: be a thought that crosses her mind amy is pretty astonishing, honestly,

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01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:40,240
Speaker 1: and everyone, I'm up front of this, I'm not favorable

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01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,280
Speaker 1: towards Hillary as a candidate, but just looking at this

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01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: from as objective a perspective as I can, that's pretty amazing.

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Speaker 1: I want to ask you also about who in the

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Speaker 1: campaign really who really mattered, meaning who wielded power inside

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01:25:52,640 --> 01:25:55,400
Speaker 1: the Hillary apparatus. We know who'm a super close advisor,

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01:25:55,600 --> 01:25:57,960
Speaker 1: but who else was in the absolute upper echelon of

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01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 1: power pushing the different decision and making processes that led

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Speaker 1: eventually to her loss. Well, it's interesting, I think you

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01:26:05,400 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 1: saw a shift. UM. You saw power kind of removed

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01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 1: from Robbie look and given to Jake Sullivan in the

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01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 1: middle of the campaign. And that was done kind of secretly. UM.

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01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 1: Jake Sullivan is this brilliant UM policy mind, UM, and

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01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:25,160
Speaker 1: he became kind of her to facto chief strategist UM

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Speaker 1: sometime in the primary and UH, and Robbie was basically

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01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,640
Speaker 1: told to focus on analytics and data, which was ultimately

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01:26:32,640 --> 01:26:36,400
Speaker 1: her downfall because you had people like President Clinton coming

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01:26:36,439 --> 01:26:40,200
Speaker 1: in and pushing back against this UM analytics team and

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01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 1: basically saying, I'm campaigning, I'm hearing different things on the road.

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01:26:44,600 --> 01:26:46,600
Speaker 1: You're telling me to go to these places, but I

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01:26:46,600 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: think I should be in these places. And he he

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01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 1: isn't being listened to for whatever reason, UM, but he

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01:26:52,560 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 1: was sounding the alarm and he was frustrated by the

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01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:56,800
Speaker 1: way things were going. So I think there was a

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01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:58,920
Speaker 1: lot of that, and I think, you know, I think

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Speaker 1: analytic analytic X for good and Dad played um. It

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Speaker 1: was a big role in this campaign. How much did

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Speaker 1: Hillary's um decisions around the email situation investigation scandal? How

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01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,600
Speaker 1: much of that factors in your your book? Would you

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01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:17,559
Speaker 1: find out about it? And and was there a sense

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Speaker 1: among her advisors that she bungled that because as somebody

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Speaker 1: on the outside that was very critical of Hillary Clinton,

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01:27:25,040 --> 01:27:27,320
Speaker 1: she gave me and a lot of others plenty of

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01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 1: room to work with on that. She was just not

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01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:32,040
Speaker 1: upfront about what was happening with that email server. No,

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01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 1: and she she you know, had to get out in

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01:27:34,360 --> 01:27:36,400
Speaker 1: front of it and talk about it even before she

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01:27:36,479 --> 01:27:40,559
Speaker 1: launched her candidacy and her campaign, and she was talking

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01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:44,080
Speaker 1: about it in March of um a month later she

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01:27:44,160 --> 01:27:47,479
Speaker 1: actually officially says that she's running for office, And it

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01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: kind of looms over her campaign for much of that

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Speaker 1: year into the summer, and then finally in September months later,

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Speaker 1: basically half a year later, she finally ends up apologizing

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01:27:58,000 --> 01:28:00,719
Speaker 1: for it. And I think there was a big tug

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01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:03,839
Speaker 1: of war in the campaign also over this issue because

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01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,840
Speaker 1: I think a lot of advisors wanted her to get

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01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:10,960
Speaker 1: out ahead of it and to address it earlier. And um,

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01:28:11,000 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 1: I think the Clinton's kind of fell in the beginning

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01:28:13,439 --> 01:28:16,960
Speaker 1: like they had done nothing wrong and that they shouldn't apologize,

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01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:19,720
Speaker 1: and that, you know, if if they apologize, then it

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01:28:19,760 --> 01:28:21,880
Speaker 1: would be giving too much and that people would make

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01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:24,439
Speaker 1: too much of it. And so there was sort of

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01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:29,759
Speaker 1: this um, this ongoing conversation internally, UM about what should happen.

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01:28:29,800 --> 01:28:32,599
Speaker 1: And ultimately she ends up apologizing, and it takes her

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01:28:32,640 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 1: even then a few tries to you know, First she

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01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 1: sits down with Brianna Keiler of CNN, she can't quite

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01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,600
Speaker 1: get there. Finally she ends up with David Muir of

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01:28:40,640 --> 01:28:45,320
Speaker 1: ABC News and finally apologizes. Um, but even that took

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01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:48,240
Speaker 1: her a few efforts, and so it took It was

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01:28:48,280 --> 01:28:51,200
Speaker 1: a month long process, and it obviously loomed over the

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01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:53,680
Speaker 1: campaign for much longer than that until the very end.

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01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,040
Speaker 1: It was an issue up and up until election day,

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01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:59,400
Speaker 1: and with the decision not to prosecute the Loretta Lynch

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01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:01,760
Speaker 1: meeting of Bill Clinton on the tarmac and then later

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01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:04,760
Speaker 1: on Komey saying the investigation was reopened. Even whatever it

1523
01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:07,439
Speaker 1: was for a few days, still played a role if

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01:29:07,439 --> 01:29:10,439
Speaker 1: you had to give, um if you had to give

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01:29:10,479 --> 01:29:14,120
Speaker 1: retrospective advice to the Clinton campaign and had a curiosity,

1526
01:29:14,280 --> 01:29:16,240
Speaker 1: you spent two years with them, You studied this, you

1527
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 1: talked there a lot of the folks involved, assuming basically

1528
01:29:18,560 --> 01:29:21,800
Speaker 1: all the major players, what what what should they have

1529
01:29:21,960 --> 01:29:24,720
Speaker 1: done differently? Or was it not the campaign it was

1530
01:29:24,760 --> 01:29:28,120
Speaker 1: the candidate. I think it was a little bit of both.

1531
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,040
Speaker 1: I think, you know, she had pretty much the smartest

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01:29:31,040 --> 01:29:34,080
Speaker 1: minds working on her campaign, so it's hard to to

1533
01:29:34,479 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: um fault them entirely obviously, but I think, as I

1534
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:39,639
Speaker 1: said earlier, I think she's partly to blame. I think

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01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,200
Speaker 1: they did some things in the beginning. Part of it

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01:29:42,240 --> 01:29:44,240
Speaker 1: was dealing with her image. You know, there was this

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01:29:44,439 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 1: rollout they gave an interview to The New York Times

1538
01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:50,280
Speaker 1: that basically talked about how she needed they needed to

1539
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:53,960
Speaker 1: basically show more hard and soul. And so that was

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01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 1: a part of it, and that was what they called

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01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:58,160
Speaker 1: an unforced error. You know, suddenly she's on all these

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01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:01,320
Speaker 1: late night talk shows, and she's on Ellen's Generous, and

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01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 1: she's trying to show what aids say is like a

1544
01:30:03,840 --> 01:30:07,400
Speaker 1: very gregarious person internally. You know, Um, they always talk

1545
01:30:07,439 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 1: about Hillary Clinton how funny she is behind the scenes.

1546
01:30:10,400 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 1: Is she is she? I mean, is she gregarious in person?

1547
01:30:13,240 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 1: Everyone has a story about how she's so funny, but

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01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:21,120
Speaker 1: she's so guarded in public. Um, And that's I find

1549
01:30:21,120 --> 01:30:23,880
Speaker 1: that a little a little sketchy of it. All right, Yeah,

1550
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:26,360
Speaker 1: I'm just I'm no, I know, I know, I'm just

1551
01:30:26,360 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 1: saying for for me, that doesn't pass the smell test. Yeah,

1552
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,519
Speaker 1: but no. So so I think they wanted to sort

1553
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 1: of they wanted that, um, that appearance out there, and

1554
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:37,680
Speaker 1: they wanted to change the narrative, and some of that

1555
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:40,519
Speaker 1: hurt them and um, and so I think it was

1556
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,080
Speaker 1: a combination of things. It's hard to just you know,

1557
01:30:43,240 --> 01:30:46,719
Speaker 1: she's very quick to blame Comey and Russia for her loss.

1558
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:49,800
Speaker 1: I definitely think they were factors. I think there was

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01:30:50,000 --> 01:30:52,639
Speaker 1: There were many more factors this week detail in the book,

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01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 1: from message to strategy, to over alliance on analytics and

1561
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:59,360
Speaker 1: even fighting the last battle. I think, um, she she

1562
01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,880
Speaker 1: was sort of uh, they were very quick to kind

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01:31:01,880 --> 01:31:05,120
Speaker 1: of fight the last war, and I think that had

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01:31:05,160 --> 01:31:07,040
Speaker 1: something to do with it. Real quick, Amy, before we

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01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:09,439
Speaker 1: let you get back to all your book tour stuff.

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01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:11,559
Speaker 1: When you're signing books, do you have a lot of uh,

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01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:13,880
Speaker 1: do you have a lot of Bernie Sanders supporters? You

1568
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:15,720
Speaker 1: show up just kind of nodding their head at you,

1569
01:31:15,800 --> 01:31:20,080
Speaker 1: saying told you so, or just just wondering there. I

1570
01:31:20,120 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 1: figured there might be. Amy Parnes, co author of the

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01:31:22,800 --> 01:31:27,320
Speaker 1: brand new book Shattered, Inside Hillary Clinton's Doomed Campaign, available

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01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: on Amazon and in fine bookstores everywhere. Amy, thank you

1573
01:31:30,280 --> 01:31:31,760
Speaker 1: so much for your time and good luck with the book.

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01:31:32,240 --> 01:31:35,479
Speaker 1: Thank you, Buck, I appreciate it. Alright, team, phone lines

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01:31:35,479 --> 01:31:39,599
Speaker 1: open eight four to eight to five, hitting a quick

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01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:43,680
Speaker 1: break and we'll be right back. Scott and Florida on

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01:31:43,880 --> 01:31:48,439
Speaker 1: w f l F Welcome to the Freedom. My friend. Hey,

1578
01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 1: it's all and I'm sorry you cut off my friend.

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01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:57,160
Speaker 1: What do you say? Can you Yeah? I can now.

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01:31:59,400 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 1: We love your out here. Thank you so much. And

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01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:09,800
Speaker 1: the interview it was awesome. Um Man, I'm just not

1582
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:13,120
Speaker 1: in despair. But man, we control everything. They gotta can't

1583
01:32:13,160 --> 01:32:17,799
Speaker 1: do anything yet. I mean, I mean there's been some Okay,

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01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:21,200
Speaker 1: let's I had, Scott, I I gotta come, I gotta

1585
01:32:21,200 --> 01:32:23,280
Speaker 1: come cleaner. As you know, because it was on radio,

1586
01:32:23,640 --> 01:32:25,600
Speaker 1: I had a day where I started to get a

1587
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:28,559
Speaker 1: little frustrated with the administration and I needed some friends

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01:32:28,600 --> 01:32:32,439
Speaker 1: and uh and and family and colleagues to to sort

1589
01:32:32,439 --> 01:32:35,120
Speaker 1: of get me to buck up a little bit, if

1590
01:32:35,120 --> 01:32:39,040
Speaker 1: you will, pardon the the self referential pun um and

1591
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:40,840
Speaker 1: and just chill out a little bit and give it

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01:32:40,880 --> 01:32:43,400
Speaker 1: a little bit more time. Um. And I think that's

1593
01:32:43,680 --> 01:32:46,599
Speaker 1: and also keeping in mind Gore Sitch on the Supreme Court,

1594
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:50,799
Speaker 1: and it can't be an excuse for continued in action

1595
01:32:51,080 --> 01:32:54,800
Speaker 1: and broken promises. But at least it's not Hillary is.

1596
01:32:54,840 --> 01:32:57,920
Speaker 1: It is a powerful data point to keep in mind, right,

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01:32:57,920 --> 01:33:01,000
Speaker 1: I mean, Scott, I'm because I'm keeping it real. That's

1598
01:33:01,000 --> 01:33:05,759
Speaker 1: a hard saying about it, you right, Yeah, trying justice.

1599
01:33:05,960 --> 01:33:08,080
Speaker 1: He's pushing that rock up the hill and he can't

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01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:11,439
Speaker 1: get nobody behind it. I don't understand. Yeah, well, Paul

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01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:15,760
Speaker 1: Ryan and the Republicans. I blame them mostly for the

1602
01:33:15,760 --> 01:33:18,800
Speaker 1: the healthcare to bacle. I mean, what what's Trump? People say, Oh,

1603
01:33:18,920 --> 01:33:20,839
Speaker 1: Trump was trying to sell it. Well, what's he's the president,

1604
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:22,919
Speaker 1: what's he gonna do? Say? Yeah, the guys in Congress

1605
01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:25,760
Speaker 1: who've got these staffs that that the American people are

1606
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:29,040
Speaker 1: paying for, who have had years, like seven years to

1607
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:32,120
Speaker 1: get an Obamacare bill ready. Uh what they're what they're

1608
01:33:32,160 --> 01:33:34,519
Speaker 1: offering is crap. So uh you know, let's not go

1609
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:36,800
Speaker 1: forward with it. I mean, he could have done that,

1610
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:38,920
Speaker 1: but think about the political capital he would have burned

1611
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:43,960
Speaker 1: with the Republicans in Congress. Did we lose him? I

1612
01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:46,000
Speaker 1: was having fun talking to Scott in the Northwest, Florida

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01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:49,040
Speaker 1: on WFLF. But all right, Scotty, every buddy, we we

1614
01:33:49,200 --> 01:33:51,920
Speaker 1: we lost you. I think he's gone, Scott, thank you.

1615
01:33:51,960 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 1: Manshield High for some reason. We're having some comms issues here.

1616
01:33:54,880 --> 01:34:02,559
Speaker 1: But okay, um, what is a what I mentioned the

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01:34:02,600 --> 01:34:08,759
Speaker 1: stuff about the dairy and Canada dairy industry, Wisconsin ultra

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01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,960
Speaker 1: filtered milk, which gets me kind of excited. I I

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01:34:12,000 --> 01:34:15,800
Speaker 1: love whole milk. I think that that's what people should drink.

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01:34:15,960 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 1: I don't understand this fact. You look at I mean,

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01:34:19,080 --> 01:34:22,200
Speaker 1: to borrow from Ron Swanson, skim milk is water, that's

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01:34:22,280 --> 01:34:24,760
Speaker 1: lying about being milk. You look at the difference in

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01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:26,880
Speaker 1: calories between people. I go into there's a lot of

1624
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 1: fancy coffee shops there in New York City. You go

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01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,760
Speaker 1: in there and you order, people say I want a

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01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 1: two percent milk latte, and I'm like, look, you know,

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01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:38,240
Speaker 1: at least go whole or go with almond or skim

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01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:41,320
Speaker 1: or something. But two percent that's like not that's neither

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01:34:41,560 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 1: one side or the other. I mean, that's like the

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01:34:43,840 --> 01:34:46,479
Speaker 1: it's like the Bernie Sanders is an independent of milk.

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01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 1: It just makes no sense. You know, you gotta go

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01:34:49,400 --> 01:34:52,200
Speaker 1: with one or the other. And I think that's that's

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01:34:52,200 --> 01:34:55,679
Speaker 1: important to keep in mind as we're No, it's not important, Buck,

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01:34:55,720 --> 01:34:57,400
Speaker 1: But I just like talking about milk and chocolate, two

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01:34:57,439 --> 01:34:59,120
Speaker 1: of my favorite things. Oh and I'll get to that

1636
01:34:59,160 --> 01:35:02,080
Speaker 1: with Bill ny By away. There's ay they brought chocolate

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01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:06,160
Speaker 1: into the conversation. I will not forgive or forget that easily.

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01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:09,559
Speaker 1: I beloved chocolate and home milk. Um. Some of you

1639
01:35:09,680 --> 01:35:12,559
Speaker 1: probably thinking, wow, Buck, here taking years off from your

1640
01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:17,040
Speaker 1: life by uh going by constantly going for the highest

1641
01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:19,439
Speaker 1: fat foods. But you know what, you only live once.

1642
01:35:19,479 --> 01:35:24,639
Speaker 1: My friends, all right, onto Trump and some protectionism. Maybe

1643
01:35:25,240 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 1: I brought this up. He's talking about Wisconsin and dairy

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01:35:27,439 --> 01:35:30,320
Speaker 1: farmers in Canada, and yeah, Canada has been playing a

1645
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:33,880
Speaker 1: little unfair with dairy farmers, and Wisconsin dairy farmers are

1646
01:35:34,040 --> 01:35:36,280
Speaker 1: annoyed about this has been going on for a long time,

1647
01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 1: and you have there was a Commerce secretary uh talking

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01:35:39,960 --> 01:35:45,120
Speaker 1: about this. They are a close ally, they're an important

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01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:48,559
Speaker 1: alle they're generally a good neighbor. That doesn't mean they

1650
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:52,799
Speaker 1: don't have to play by the rules. Generally a good neighbor, well,

1651
01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:55,880
Speaker 1: things like this, I don't regard to playing a good

1652
01:35:55,960 --> 01:36:00,679
Speaker 1: neighbor dumping lumber. And there's a feeling in the dairy

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01:36:00,720 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 1: industry that they were a little bit abrupt in the

1654
01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:07,000
Speaker 1: action that they took the week before. So we're gonna

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01:36:07,040 --> 01:36:09,759
Speaker 1: get a little rough on some trade issues. It sounds

1656
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:14,720
Speaker 1: like with Canada, which is uh, sort of a surprise.

1657
01:36:14,840 --> 01:36:18,520
Speaker 1: I think we've got the dairy farmers up in Wisconsin

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01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:21,599
Speaker 1: who are sick at Canada throwing all their dairy muscle

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01:36:21,640 --> 01:36:26,040
Speaker 1: around a um and yeah, I know my Canadian team

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01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:29,240
Speaker 1: buck listeners, please forgive me. Uh. And then you've got

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01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:31,839
Speaker 1: lumber getting brought into this because they may put tariffs

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01:36:31,880 --> 01:36:33,760
Speaker 1: on lumber. Here's what I'll say about all this, Because

1663
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,879
Speaker 1: people are looking at this, they're saying Trump tariffs protection.

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01:36:36,960 --> 01:36:40,120
Speaker 1: Isn't this a bad idea for us? With with Canada,

1665
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:43,920
Speaker 1: you're operating more or less in a safe space, right,

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01:36:44,160 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 1: We're not gonna have a trade war with Canada. Well,

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01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:49,719
Speaker 1: what Canada is like our our little bro to the north.

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01:36:49,800 --> 01:36:51,559
Speaker 1: We'll we'll figure it out. If there's a little bit

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01:36:51,560 --> 01:36:54,760
Speaker 1: of a misunderstanding over dairy or and this might have

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01:36:54,800 --> 01:36:57,360
Speaker 1: an influence on the administration's perspective. I'm trying to find

1671
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 1: a silver lining here for how they deal with NA

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01:37:00,439 --> 01:37:03,040
Speaker 1: Mexico and other countries where trade relations are a little

1673
01:37:03,080 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 1: more acrimonious. Right, But it does kind of seem a

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01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:10,799
Speaker 1: little a little bit, a little bit like we're getting

1675
01:37:11,560 --> 01:37:15,360
Speaker 1: getting a little frisky, getting a little little feisty with Canada.

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01:37:15,400 --> 01:37:19,479
Speaker 1: This administration is over dairy and lumber and trade. Who

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01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:24,800
Speaker 1: knew we've got more common Stay with me. Welcome back

1678
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:27,800
Speaker 1: to the Freedom hud On, an island of liberty where

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01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:31,439
Speaker 1: you're the party and it's full of fellow patriots. Buck

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01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:36,040
Speaker 1: Sexton kicks it off, all right, Team Buck, Welcome back.

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01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:38,760
Speaker 1: We're joined by Chuck Ross to talk to us about

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01:37:38,800 --> 01:37:41,120
Speaker 1: some of the news of the day. Chuck is a

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01:37:41,160 --> 01:37:43,439
Speaker 1: reporter at the Daily Caller. You can see his latest

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01:37:43,479 --> 01:37:46,160
Speaker 1: at Daily Caller dot com. Chuck, great to have you, sir,

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01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:49,280
Speaker 1: helly buck, thanks for having me. All right, a lot

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01:37:49,400 --> 01:37:52,600
Speaker 1: of a lot of CNN coverage at least and some

1687
01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 1: other places, but un getting very excited about this, uh

1688
01:37:57,080 --> 01:38:04,280
Speaker 1: with regard to the Michael in foreign money, uh disclosure issue,

1689
01:38:04,560 --> 01:38:06,680
Speaker 1: tell everybody what's going on here and then let's get

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01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:09,880
Speaker 1: into what it could mean. Yeah, well, I guess the

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Speaker 1: biggest development today, um, was that, um, the House Oversight

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Speaker 1: Committee received some briefing from the Defense Department about Michael

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Speaker 1: Flynn's payments that he's received from outlets like Russia Today,

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Speaker 1: which is a Russia controlled news outlet, UM, and also

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Speaker 1: some payments he received for lobbying from the Turkish government.

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Speaker 1: And UM. So there's kind of two angles of this.

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Speaker 1: First off is that, you know, Flynn may not have

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Speaker 1: properly disclosed some of the those payments whenever he was

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Speaker 1: re upping his security clearance, which is, you know, Chairman Chafe,

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Speaker 1: it's Jason Chafe is the Republican uh you know, kind

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Speaker 1: of deemed uh Flynn over that and said that he

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Speaker 1: may have possibly broken a law. UM. The other angle

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Speaker 1: on this, which CNN was touting heavily, which I think

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01:38:57,600 --> 01:39:01,280
Speaker 1: they're kind of off base on, is that uh the

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Speaker 1: White They were accusing the White House of stonewalling on

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Speaker 1: the release of some of these records, and Sean Spice

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01:39:08,000 --> 01:39:12,519
Speaker 1: of Today said that, you know, perhaps that since Flynn

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01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:15,200
Speaker 1: was only there for three weeks or so, and all

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01:39:15,240 --> 01:39:19,960
Speaker 1: of this occurred before Flynn entered the White House and

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Speaker 1: even joined the administration, that uh, you know, they don't

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01:39:24,760 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 1: really have the records to to turn over in the

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01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:29,840
Speaker 1: first place. So there, you know, there's a lot of

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Speaker 1: different angles on this um. Some of them legitimate, some

1714
01:39:33,360 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 1: of them are kind of being blown out a proportion

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Speaker 1: by the media. I believe we have a Russia hearing

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Speaker 1: coming up right, Russia collusion, Russia hacking, and and Trump surveillance,

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Speaker 1: all of the above those a hearing. What is it

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Speaker 1: two weeks from now? Oh yeah, May eight, A Senate

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01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:55,360
Speaker 1: subcommittee is gonna gonna be hearing that. And uh, Lindsay Graham,

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Speaker 1: I see this Delhi car dot Com piece here Lindsay

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01:39:57,800 --> 01:40:01,160
Speaker 1: Graham previews tough questions for Obama officials about Trump surveillance,

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01:40:01,240 --> 01:40:05,639
Speaker 1: like what, Yeah, Graham had a has a pretty good

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01:40:05,680 --> 01:40:07,560
Speaker 1: take on it. I think so they're going to be

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Speaker 1: questioning former Director of National National Intellience Intelligence James Clapper,

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Speaker 1: and then Sally Yates, who was a top Justice Department official.

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Speaker 1: Graham said today that he wants to ask Clapper about

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01:40:21,240 --> 01:40:26,160
Speaker 1: a an apparent inconsistency and something he said UM. Last month,

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01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 1: Clapper told Chuck Todd that he was not aware of

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01:40:30,520 --> 01:40:34,800
Speaker 1: any fights surveillance warrants against Trump Tower or the Trump

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01:40:34,920 --> 01:40:39,080
Speaker 1: campaign UM. But since then it's been reported by The

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01:40:39,120 --> 01:40:43,120
Speaker 1: New York Times in Washington Post that uh, the FBI

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01:40:43,200 --> 01:40:47,040
Speaker 1: obtained a surveillance warrant against Carter Page, the infamous Carter Page,

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01:40:47,120 --> 01:40:51,559
Speaker 1: the Trump campaign advisor. UM. So Graham said he wants

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01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:54,640
Speaker 1: to ask about that inconsistency. You know, he wants to

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01:40:54,640 --> 01:40:59,160
Speaker 1: know if Clapper knew about this FISA warrant UM, and

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01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:02,360
Speaker 1: then that would lead in of questions about the breadth

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01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:06,519
Speaker 1: of the surveillance that the Obama administration conducted against the

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Speaker 1: Trump team, you know, if there was any UM, and

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01:41:09,200 --> 01:41:12,719
Speaker 1: then he wants to um. He wants to ultimately ask

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01:41:12,720 --> 01:41:17,720
Speaker 1: about the Susan Rice unmasking of Trump advisors. He wants

1741
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:20,960
Speaker 1: to ask um Clapper that he would know, and also

1742
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:24,360
Speaker 1: Sally Yates would who is kind of a controversial figure

1743
01:41:24,360 --> 01:41:28,519
Speaker 1: now she would also potentially know about um, whether Susan

1744
01:41:28,600 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 1: Rice you know, improperly revealed identities of Trump advisors right

1745
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:39,280
Speaker 1: before the the inauguration and uh switching gears here for

1746
01:41:39,320 --> 01:41:42,439
Speaker 1: a moment. I know Delhi Caller is keeping an eye

1747
01:41:42,439 --> 01:41:44,160
Speaker 1: on this story as there are a lot of outlets.

1748
01:41:45,000 --> 01:41:48,880
Speaker 1: Berkeley has been sued for canceling and culture speech do

1749
01:41:49,000 --> 01:41:52,439
Speaker 1: we know, well, what are the latest details here? Um?

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01:41:52,640 --> 01:41:56,040
Speaker 1: The latest well as of yesterday. Um. Yeah, So he

1751
01:41:56,120 --> 01:42:00,479
Speaker 1: had two groups that were that had um co ordinated

1752
01:42:00,520 --> 01:42:05,200
Speaker 1: the appearance for a culture Um. They're suing saying that

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01:42:05,800 --> 01:42:11,919
Speaker 1: Berkeley unilaterally decided to cancel this appearance, which was supposed

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01:42:11,960 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 1: to have you taking place I believe on Thursday. Um,

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01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:17,920
Speaker 1: you know, and the school said that they couldn't provide

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01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:22,320
Speaker 1: the proper uh security for this and the student groups,

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01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:26,160
Speaker 1: one of them is the Berkeley College Republicans, said that, uh,

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01:42:26,360 --> 01:42:29,519
Speaker 1: you know, that's not that's not a legitimate excuse. That

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01:42:29,640 --> 01:42:32,760
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's a publicly funded institution and they

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01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:36,840
Speaker 1: need to provide the protection for someone like an culture.

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01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:39,519
Speaker 1: They're saying that the school didn't want to host a

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Speaker 1: conservative speaker. Um. And also you know, the police there

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01:42:44,160 --> 01:42:47,840
Speaker 1: at Berkeley said that they couldn't. Some groups like the

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01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:51,519
Speaker 1: anti fascist groups, the masked groups of people wearing all

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01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 1: black and everything that they had received threats from them.

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01:42:55,040 --> 01:42:58,799
Speaker 1: And so the groups suing Berkeley or saying you're giving

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01:42:58,840 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 1: these antique as they're called the Hecklers veto and um,

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01:43:03,520 --> 01:43:07,840
Speaker 1: it's you know, competing their First Amendment protections. Chuck, what

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01:43:07,840 --> 01:43:09,479
Speaker 1: are you gonna be following next? What can we expecting

1770
01:43:09,520 --> 01:43:14,879
Speaker 1: the next few days? Well, um, anything related to the

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01:43:15,479 --> 01:43:20,479
Speaker 1: Obama administration's surveillance of the Trump team, any developments in

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01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:26,080
Speaker 1: the Russia Trump probe. Um, We're of course going to

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01:43:26,240 --> 01:43:28,680
Speaker 1: be building up to that hearing on May eight, which

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01:43:28,760 --> 01:43:32,200
Speaker 1: will probably create quite a bit of news. So Chuck Ross,

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Speaker 1: Report of the Daily Caller. Appreciate you joining us. Thank you, sir,

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01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 1: Thank you. Buck alright, team eight four four to eight

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01:43:39,479 --> 01:43:42,599
Speaker 1: to five. You want to call in chat about things, uh,

1778
01:43:42,680 --> 01:43:44,800
Speaker 1: anything on your mind? Do you give a ring and

1779
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:46,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna hit a quick break. Be right back. A

1780
01:43:46,760 --> 01:43:50,439
Speaker 1: couple of updates of what we were just talking about before.

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01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:55,360
Speaker 1: One is that and Culter, uh friend we've had before,

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01:43:55,479 --> 01:43:58,000
Speaker 1: A friend of the show we've had on before is

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01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:03,120
Speaker 1: planning to speak in a public Plaza at the University

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01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:11,040
Speaker 1: of California at Berkeley. This is going to be interesting there,

1785
01:44:11,800 --> 01:44:17,200
Speaker 1: bracing for quote massive protests and potential violence. She'll be speaking,

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01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:20,759
Speaker 1: this is the university. She'll be speaking at sprul Plaza,

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01:44:22,240 --> 01:44:26,200
Speaker 1: and that's gonna be happening Thursday afternoon. Oh, we'll be

1788
01:44:26,960 --> 01:44:30,799
Speaker 1: We'll be on the air during this speech most likely,

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01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:34,439
Speaker 1: I'm guessing, so we might even be able to if

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01:44:34,439 --> 01:44:36,360
Speaker 1: there's a live on. We probably can't put a live

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01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:38,320
Speaker 1: stream off because there'd be a lot of cursing from

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01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 1: maniac ANTIFA protesters, but we'll we'll be able to probably

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01:44:42,320 --> 01:44:46,360
Speaker 1: give you updates depending on exactly when the speech is.

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01:44:46,400 --> 01:44:48,800
Speaker 1: I could check and see when they've moved around. I'm

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01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:52,000
Speaker 1: assuming if it's Thursday afternoon, though, at a minimum, will

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01:44:52,000 --> 01:44:53,880
Speaker 1: be able to tell you about it right after it happens.

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01:44:53,920 --> 01:44:57,080
Speaker 1: If this turns into the melee on campus that some

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01:44:57,200 --> 01:45:02,360
Speaker 1: think it might be, um but yeah, this is gonna

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01:45:02,400 --> 01:45:07,519
Speaker 1: be quite a scene. Sprawl Plaza is the site of

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Speaker 1: the UH Berkeley free speech movement protests of the nineteen sixties, so,

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Speaker 1: as the Washington Post is writing it here, it is

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Speaker 1: quote both symbolic and logistically challenging for the university because

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01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:24,479
Speaker 1: anyone can be there. The university would have metal detectors

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01:45:24,520 --> 01:45:26,759
Speaker 1: for an inside event in other ways to search for weapons,

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01:45:26,800 --> 01:45:29,120
Speaker 1: but that'll be much more difficult than an outdoor space.

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01:45:30,040 --> 01:45:32,360
Speaker 1: If someone brings weapons, there's no way to block off

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01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:36,360
Speaker 1: the site or to screen them. Dirk said, Uh, Dirk's

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01:45:36,439 --> 01:45:38,640
Speaker 1: is the I don't know who he's Oh, he's a

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01:45:38,760 --> 01:45:44,759
Speaker 1: Berkeley chancellor, Nicholas jerks Um. He said that the black block,

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01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:48,800
Speaker 1: they're no. People keep referring to the protests. How many

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01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:52,280
Speaker 1: black block is a tactic. It is not a specific

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01:45:52,360 --> 01:45:57,040
Speaker 1: protests group. It is wearing all black, popularized by anti

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01:45:57,160 --> 01:46:00,599
Speaker 1: nuclear protesters in Germany in the nineteen seventies. Maken here.

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01:46:00,880 --> 01:46:03,639
Speaker 1: The first time you would have seen it in uh

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01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:07,200
Speaker 1: large scale protests would have been the what was the

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01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:10,519
Speaker 1: w t O protests in Seattle back in I guess

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01:46:11,400 --> 01:46:15,639
Speaker 1: I want to say I forget um, but they're expecting

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01:46:15,680 --> 01:46:21,120
Speaker 1: some black block Antifa there and we'll see um. Yeah,

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01:46:21,160 --> 01:46:23,479
Speaker 1: Hand could is gonna be speaking outdoors at Berkeley. This

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01:46:23,760 --> 01:46:28,360
Speaker 1: could get nuts good for hand. Yeah, You've got to

1821
01:46:28,400 --> 01:46:33,840
Speaker 1: give her credit. She is um. She is fierce. She

1822
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 1: is fierce and super funny. By the way Felix in Pennsylvania.

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01:46:38,400 --> 01:46:43,720
Speaker 1: W e A B. What's up? Hey Buck? Hey, I

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01:46:43,720 --> 01:46:47,080
Speaker 1: got I agree, agree with you. I love and Caulter. Yeah,

1825
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:50,080
Speaker 1: she's really, she's really. She stands aground. And you know

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01:46:50,240 --> 01:46:52,160
Speaker 1: the reason I'm calling is I am a little bit

1827
01:46:52,160 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 1: disappointed in Donald Trump. Now I was from day number

1828
01:46:54,920 --> 01:46:58,880
Speaker 1: one ten percent donald Trump. But I kind of wish

1829
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:01,640
Speaker 1: that he would have stood on on this one and

1830
01:47:01,720 --> 01:47:04,280
Speaker 1: don't let us down fund the wall and then let's

1831
01:47:04,479 --> 01:47:08,880
Speaker 1: swamp schmuck Schumer shut it down. Throw that line in

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01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:13,240
Speaker 1: the stands for him the cross. Um. Yeah, I I

1833
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:15,759
Speaker 1: we'll see. They say they're gonna do it next time around.

1834
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:17,960
Speaker 1: They say they're gonna do healthcare next time around. They

1835
01:47:17,960 --> 01:47:21,320
Speaker 1: say they're gonna do taxes by the fall. So we

1836
01:47:21,439 --> 01:47:23,840
Speaker 1: have a lot of hurry up and wait right now

1837
01:47:23,880 --> 01:47:28,880
Speaker 1: with the some major administration agenda items. So we'll see.

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01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:30,559
Speaker 1: I can't tell you one way or the other. I

1839
01:47:30,560 --> 01:47:34,080
Speaker 1: am hopeful and I am supportive. That is my position

1840
01:47:34,200 --> 01:47:38,240
Speaker 1: right now. Um, there's nothing that I find outrageous. There's

1841
01:47:38,280 --> 01:47:41,439
Speaker 1: nothing that is a a betrayal of a promise as

1842
01:47:41,479 --> 01:47:44,720
Speaker 1: far as I can see yet. And we've also got

1843
01:47:44,720 --> 01:47:48,200
Speaker 1: to keep in mind that there is a lot that

1844
01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:51,000
Speaker 1: is arrayed against this administration, from the media to the

1845
01:47:51,000 --> 01:47:54,800
Speaker 1: Democrats too, you know, progressive judges to a whole bunch

1846
01:47:54,840 --> 01:47:57,280
Speaker 1: of stuff. So well, well, it's not not an easy lift,

1847
01:47:57,360 --> 01:48:03,280
Speaker 1: but they this uh Sisiphian task will hopefully get done.

1848
01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:07,120
Speaker 1: Hashtag Greek mythology. Thanks for calling in, Felix Shield time Man.

1849
01:48:07,160 --> 01:48:08,840
Speaker 1: Good to have you. I want to talk a little

1850
01:48:08,840 --> 01:48:11,240
Speaker 1: bit about so I took a I need a little

1851
01:48:11,240 --> 01:48:12,840
Speaker 1: break that I did some writing. It's up on bux

1852
01:48:12,960 --> 01:48:14,479
Speaker 1: x and dot com. There'll be more of that happening

1853
01:48:14,520 --> 01:48:17,519
Speaker 1: in the in the days ahead too. It's fun to

1854
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:19,080
Speaker 1: be able to postuff on the site. It's a great

1855
01:48:19,120 --> 01:48:21,000
Speaker 1: place to go for any members of the team will

1856
01:48:21,040 --> 01:48:23,720
Speaker 1: be updating you with stories throughout the show. Anything you

1857
01:48:23,800 --> 01:48:25,479
Speaker 1: hear on the show. By the way, that's a really

1858
01:48:25,720 --> 01:48:29,720
Speaker 1: excellent story. You can expect we'll have posted it and

1859
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:32,000
Speaker 1: and do some analysis in writing on it as well.

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01:48:33,080 --> 01:48:35,360
Speaker 1: Um very likely at least we'll have it up by

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01:48:35,360 --> 01:48:37,680
Speaker 1: the time you go check it out. But I took

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01:48:37,720 --> 01:48:39,519
Speaker 1: a break to go watch a little bit of Bill

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01:48:39,640 --> 01:48:41,880
Speaker 1: Ni Saves the World. Now. I don't like to be

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01:48:41,960 --> 01:48:45,080
Speaker 1: a hater in the media business. Because it's very easy

1865
01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:49,760
Speaker 1: to uh, to be overcome with as all of us

1866
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:51,719
Speaker 1: are we have, you have to be on guard against

1867
01:48:52,520 --> 01:48:57,479
Speaker 1: envy or um, you know, being a hater in the

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01:48:57,520 --> 01:49:00,880
Speaker 1: modern parlance. Not that I'm looking at had a science show,

1869
01:49:00,920 --> 01:49:02,680
Speaker 1: but I'm just saying, you know, you don't want to say, oh,

1870
01:49:02,720 --> 01:49:05,240
Speaker 1: guy's got a new show. I'm just gonna you know,

1871
01:49:05,479 --> 01:49:07,880
Speaker 1: talk about how terrible it is and and tear it

1872
01:49:07,920 --> 01:49:11,000
Speaker 1: all apart just because. But in this case it's warned

1873
01:49:11,040 --> 01:49:13,840
Speaker 1: because Bill Knight Show is really terrible. It's first of

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01:49:13,880 --> 01:49:15,639
Speaker 1: what it's called Bill Nye Saves the World. I turned

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01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:20,479
Speaker 1: it on and within five I'm not exaggertly. Within three minutes,

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01:49:21,600 --> 01:49:23,920
Speaker 1: this guy and the whole thing is so awkward and

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01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:27,559
Speaker 1: it really has the It's about as comfortable as watching

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01:49:27,640 --> 01:49:32,280
Speaker 1: somebody on like public access in a in a small

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01:49:32,479 --> 01:49:35,719
Speaker 1: or mid size city somewhere who just has no idea

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Speaker 1: what they're doing. I mean, it is not professional in

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01:49:38,600 --> 01:49:40,800
Speaker 1: field or look to start out with only watched about

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01:49:40,840 --> 01:49:42,479
Speaker 1: five or ten minutes of it, but in the first

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01:49:42,479 --> 01:49:45,679
Speaker 1: three minutes you start getting a lecture about climate change

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01:49:45,760 --> 01:49:47,840
Speaker 1: right away. And as I've been telling everybody, and this

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01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:51,280
Speaker 1: is caught on now others others have finally gotten with

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Speaker 1: this as well. Bill Knight is a is not a scientist.

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Speaker 1: He's somebody who play He is literally somebody who plays

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Speaker 1: a scientist on t on TV. He has a a

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01:50:00,200 --> 01:50:03,360
Speaker 1: Bachelor of Science degree in mechanical engineering and has some

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01:50:03,400 --> 01:50:05,600
Speaker 1: patents and worked as a mechanical engineer. Look if you

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01:50:05,640 --> 01:50:07,080
Speaker 1: if Bill n I was going to go on TV

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01:50:07,960 --> 01:50:11,599
Speaker 1: and show me, you know, why the chew chew goes fast,

1893
01:50:12,040 --> 01:50:15,360
Speaker 1: or how the internal combustion engine works, or you know,

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01:50:15,400 --> 01:50:19,240
Speaker 1: I'd be a little more interested. Uh Again, an undergraduate

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01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:23,920
Speaker 1: degree in a science field or in a physics engineering

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01:50:23,960 --> 01:50:27,800
Speaker 1: field is not really what we would consider I think

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Speaker 1: to be expertise. Um. But he's also worked in some

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Speaker 1: you know, he's worked on some of these projects and

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Speaker 1: and okay, fine, he's got some patents. But he's talking

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Speaker 1: about climate change right away. It's like the Church of

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01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:46,000
Speaker 1: climate change is open and Bill ny is the the

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01:50:46,120 --> 01:50:49,720
Speaker 1: superstar pastor or something. I mean, he's just making it

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Speaker 1: up as he goes along. And and I didn't get

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01:50:51,760 --> 01:50:53,479
Speaker 1: to see this, but this was I'm gonna have to

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01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:55,080
Speaker 1: go back and watch some more of the show. It's

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01:50:55,120 --> 01:50:57,719
Speaker 1: so bad By the way, it's not even a scientist.

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01:50:57,760 --> 01:51:02,040
Speaker 1: Why does this guy goes on TV and shuts down

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Speaker 1: other people? And it's really condescending and smarmy and nasty

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Speaker 1: about it, which is why I don't mind going after

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Speaker 1: him a little bit on this stuff, because he doesn't

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01:51:09,320 --> 01:51:11,840
Speaker 1: seem like he's a nice guy. I was. Really, it

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01:51:11,840 --> 01:51:14,240
Speaker 1: comes across like a jerk on TV. At least, you

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Speaker 1: know it's not. It's always you know, well, I'm a

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Speaker 1: scientist and I'm among the scientists, and you're just some

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Speaker 1: idiot who can't understand anything. It's like, dude, you're really

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Speaker 1: not not that impressive. Um, but he's he has this program.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even see this, but but play the Bill

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Speaker 1: Night clip if you would please, female or male, gay

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01:51:32,640 --> 01:51:35,920
Speaker 1: or straight, pink or blue. We were taught to see

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Speaker 1: these as binary. Now we're realizing it's more like a

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Speaker 1: kin of school and this stuff isn't just for adults.

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01:51:42,520 --> 01:51:47,120
Speaker 1: Parents know this already. Kids explore gender expression attraction before

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01:51:47,120 --> 01:51:50,160
Speaker 1: they've ever heard of a spectrum. By three or four,

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01:51:50,400 --> 01:51:53,559
Speaker 1: most kids identify with a gender, and it doesn't always

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Speaker 1: match the sex they were assigned at birth, and a

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01:51:55,960 --> 01:51:59,200
Speaker 1: person's gender identity may change over their lifetime. It should

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Speaker 1: be up to you. Sure, this might make things confusing

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Speaker 1: for those who insist everyone pick and him or f people.

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Speaker 1: We have to listen to the science and the sciences.

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01:52:09,439 --> 01:52:15,480
Speaker 1: We're all on a spectrum. No, it does not. Uh

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Speaker 1: where is the science that says that I pointed out

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Speaker 1: to the other day that you had this uh this

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Speaker 1: transgender equality Twitter account which has a large following and

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Speaker 1: is verified, So I feel like it's as legitimate as

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Speaker 1: a lot of other news and information sources these days

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01:52:31,760 --> 01:52:34,479
Speaker 1: where they posted something about this this woman talking about

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Speaker 1: how she's a science teacher in all the different ways

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Speaker 1: that gender can be non binary in in the well,

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Speaker 1: it starts out with in the animal kingdom, and then

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01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:46,519
Speaker 1: it talks about humans and and different physical characteristics that

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01:52:46,560 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 1: can arise in some circumstances. That okay, so then it's

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01:52:50,160 --> 01:52:54,880
Speaker 1: about physical characteristics. Then it's not about psychology or emotional

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01:52:56,120 --> 01:52:59,559
Speaker 1: attachment to one gender or the other. So then we

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01:52:59,560 --> 01:53:01,719
Speaker 1: can draw the line there, because if it's about science,

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01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:05,519
Speaker 1: if they're going to use that as the means of

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01:53:05,720 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 1: shouting down everyone else and calling them bigots, well then

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Speaker 1: it's about what is observable, because science is about what

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01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:15,599
Speaker 1: is observable. It's not about what one feels. But no, really,

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Speaker 1: the transgender movement is about feelings. Gender identity is a feeling.

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Speaker 1: It is not a physicality. It is not a physical

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Speaker 1: expression or an expression of a physical reality. So why

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Speaker 1: is he saying this is the science? Says who? I mean?

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Speaker 1: Not only is this guy not a scientist, he's going

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Speaker 1: on TV and saying wildly unscientific stuff, I mean, without

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Speaker 1: kidding around. And I saw this part of it on mind.

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Speaker 1: I was watching this for a few minutes then, and

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Speaker 1: I really like Netflix, Netflix, why are you doing this

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01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:45,879
Speaker 1: to me? First you have Iron Fists, which was terrible

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01:53:46,040 --> 01:53:49,280
Speaker 1: and unwatchable, and now you've got Bill Nigh. You're you're

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01:53:49,360 --> 01:53:54,439
Speaker 1: hurting me Netflix. Um. But within a few minutes he

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01:53:55,200 --> 01:53:58,280
Speaker 1: is talking about how, because of climate change, or one

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Speaker 1: of his correspondents talking about it, because of climate change,

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Speaker 1: there'll be fewer milk producing cows, which means that soon

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Speaker 1: we'll have chocolate shortages. And I guess also if you

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Speaker 1: will have milk shortages, I'm like, you're going right into

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Speaker 1: my wheelhouse right away. Ni with this milk shortage, chocolate shortage,

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Speaker 1: You're you're you're cutting me deeply with this stuff, and

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Speaker 1: that's unacceptable because it's not true. It's just not true.

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01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:24,799
Speaker 1: But this guy gets a show. It's it's appalling and astonishing. Alright.

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Speaker 1: wherever you are across the country, be like, yo, check

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