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Speaker 1: this show, although all day yesterday it felt like it
Speaker 1: was Sunday, but yesterday was a holiday, so we were
Speaker 1: not here. We have me to here since Friday, and
Speaker 1: we have a lot to talk about here today.
Speaker 2: What lot happened over the weekend.
Speaker 1: We had the debut of aw Collision.
Speaker 2: What do you think of that show?
Speaker 1: We had the SmackDown show with the big angle in
Speaker 1: the main event of the Bloodline splitting leading to Roman
Speaker 1: reigns and Solo versus the USO's coming up at Money
Speaker 1: in the Bank. We had a rampage show, and of
Speaker 1: course last night we had Raw which was not much
Speaker 1: of a show outside of the main event, and I
Speaker 1: would say most of the last hour but this coming Wednesday,
Speaker 1: we have got the Dynamite show. We have got two
Speaker 1: big nights of NXT this week and next week they've
Speaker 1: got special shows. We have got Collision this coming Saturday,
Speaker 1: as well as Forbidden Door coming up on Sunday, and
Speaker 1: so a lot of things to get into here. Today
Speaker 1: we'll go over lineups. We have got the ticket sales
Speaker 1: for the Collision show. What was the final number of
Speaker 1: that show, as well as the numbers for Dynamite and
Speaker 1: Rampage also in Chicago this coming Wednesday. We have got
Speaker 1: AWE pay per view schedule for those of you that
Speaker 1: are looking forward to upcoming shows later on this year.
Speaker 1: And NWA is doing a fundraising event that we want
Speaker 1: to talk about as well. And then of course we'll
Speaker 1: talk about all of the shows that we have not
Speaker 1: talked about yet here on this program, some in detail
Speaker 1: like Collision, some in not a lot of detail. I
Speaker 1: don't know how much I got to talk about. Most
Speaker 1: of Raw felt like a twenty nineteen show with a
Speaker 1: bunch of two minute matches, nothing happening, and then finally
Speaker 1: we did get a good main event. But all of
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Speaker 1: Man actually is frozen. Mike semperviv is joining us today
Speaker 1: from a frozen state, but we'll see if we can
Speaker 1: fix that as time moves on here today, we got
Speaker 1: a lot to talk about because we haven't been here
Speaker 1: since a Friday, and a lot has happened since Friday,
Speaker 1: has it not. We had the Bloodline exploding, and they
Speaker 1: actually did it differently than I thought they would because
Speaker 1: I figured that they were going to go with Roman
Speaker 1: Reigns and Jimmy first and Jay wouldn't make his decision
Speaker 1: till the match actually happened.
Speaker 2: But hey, they.
Speaker 1: Promised he was going to make his decision on Friday,
Speaker 1: and he did, so there you go.
Speaker 2: They've split.
Speaker 1: We'll tell you about that later on. And we also
Speaker 1: had the Collision Show, the debut of Collision, and that
Speaker 1: of course is going to lead to Dynamite here Collision
Speaker 1: this coming Saturday. I'm sure they'll have a match or
Speaker 1: two for Rampage as well, and then we will have
Speaker 1: the Forbidden Door show coming up on Sunday. Now, the
Speaker 1: Dynamite show tomorrow is also in Chicago. It is at
Speaker 1: the wind Trust Arena. The current setup is for forty fans.
Speaker 1: They have two hundred and sixty five t's left according
Speaker 1: to wrestle Tics, six seventy five sold at this point.
Speaker 1: Obviously they could open up more sections if they wanted to,
Speaker 1: and then for a Collision on Friday. The final number
Speaker 1: according to wrestle Tics nine two hundred and eighty, which
Speaker 1: is right around exactly what people were predicting that would
Speaker 1: finish at. For the return of cm Punk and the show,
Speaker 1: I thought was a very good show, but it was
Speaker 1: missing some stuff and we can go over the gist
Speaker 1: of the deal here. But long story short, the show
Speaker 1: was all built around cmpunk. Cmpunk came out being the
Speaker 1: show and he cut a long promo which was interesting
Speaker 1: for a lot of reasons, and then afterwards he came
Speaker 1: out for a thirty minute main event, which was an
Speaker 1: excellent main event, and then the show went off the
Speaker 1: air and my biggest complaint, if you want to call
Speaker 1: it a complaint, is that the show felt like an
Speaker 1: addition of Saturday Night's main event, where it was a
Speaker 1: bunch of things happened. Some of it was great, some
Speaker 1: of it was just kind of there, and at the
Speaker 1: end of the day, it felt like a very special
Speaker 1: one off show, but did not feel like this is
Speaker 1: the beginning of a Saturday Night series because when the
Speaker 1: show was over, they announced nothing for this week's Collision.
Speaker 1: Not one match was announced for Collision. They announced matches
Speaker 1: for Dynamite and obviously we'll get matches for fromid Door,
Speaker 1: but there was no match, not one single match announced
Speaker 1: for next week's Collision. And I felt that they should
Speaker 1: have shot a big angle on the show. They should
Speaker 1: have had somebody come out and challenge CM Punk. You know,
Speaker 1: there have been a lot of people that said, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, as next feud is with this person, this person.
Speaker 1: We don't know who is next a feud is with.
Speaker 1: It was not mentioned at all. Yeah, he was in
Speaker 1: the ring with Samoa Joe, but he was in the
Speaker 1: ring with other guys as well. Yeah, he cut promos
Speaker 1: on certain people, including MJF. But it's not gonna be
Speaker 1: MGF next because MGF and Tanahashi is on Sunday and
Speaker 1: MJF and Adam Punkin or Adam Cole is going to
Speaker 1: be after that. So the show went off the air
Speaker 1: and we have no idea who cmpunk is feuding with,
Speaker 1: and we have nothing announced for this coming Saturday. So
Speaker 1: I felt they could have done a better job with that.
Speaker 1: But overall, in terms of you know, getting people talking
Speaker 1: and that sort of deal, I thought that it was
Speaker 1: a it was a very good show. So, uh, even
Speaker 1: though Mike is still frozen, Mike, Yes, what did you
Speaker 1: think of the Collision debut?
Speaker 3: I thought it was a very good debut.
Speaker 4: And yes, I do think there definitely needs to be
Speaker 4: some sort of string that connects all three shows Collision,
Speaker 4: Rampage and Dynamite together. They got to make sure they
Speaker 4: have a string going throughout all of them, especially when
Speaker 4: it comes to the Friday night show, because that's the
Speaker 4: one that in the immediate future needs all of the
Speaker 4: help that it can get here. But I thought when
Speaker 4: he came to the matches, you know, when he came
Speaker 4: to Buddy and Androte, I thought that was great. I
Speaker 4: don't know about beating Wardlow, but I'm sure they wanted
Speaker 4: to have the first match have a lot of historical impact,
Speaker 4: and you have that because the very first match you had,
Speaker 4: you had a championship change. But I thought Willow Nightingale
Speaker 4: and Sky Blue we talked about it last week. What
Speaker 4: are we going to do with sky Blue or are
Speaker 4: they going to go ahead and continue to follow up?
Speaker 4: And I thought they did a very good job of
Speaker 4: that with she and Willow Nightingale and then Sky ultimately
Speaker 4: getting the victory. And then as you move on the
Speaker 4: main event, I thought needed what it needed to be
Speaker 4: as well too, So I thought it was a very
Speaker 4: well paced show. I thought, again, you got Scorpio Sky
Speaker 4: out of the way with a little bit of a
Speaker 4: video package there.
Speaker 3: So good first start, that's for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, it opened up with the cmpunk promo, and what
Speaker 1: appears to be happening is that he's likely going to Ah.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying this is gonna be immediate, but it's
Speaker 1: obviously gonna happen down the road. He's gonna do the
Speaker 1: Brett Hard deal where he's a babyface in Chicago and
Speaker 1: he is.
Speaker 2: A heel everywhere else.
Speaker 1: And I don't think that they're immediately going heal with
Speaker 1: him unless the fans like just totally boom out of
Speaker 1: building from this Saturday forward. But I think that at
Speaker 1: some point he is going to be turning. And he
Speaker 1: targeted various people. He made a comment about how David
Speaker 1: Zaslov called him one bill Phil because he's the one
Speaker 1: genuine article in a business full of counterfeit bucks. He
Speaker 1: had a red bag, which was interesting because he didn't
Speaker 1: say the aw title was in the bag, but he
Speaker 1: said what was in this bag I held over my
Speaker 1: head when you last saw me, And essentially, you know
Speaker 1: he's doing the I'm the real champion in MGF, is
Speaker 1: not at some point building up to a you know,
Speaker 1: champion versus uncrowned champion match or however you want to
Speaker 1: term it. And then he said, you know, I've got
Speaker 1: my boots around my neck. Some people want me to
Speaker 1: leave them in the ring, but until somebody in this
Speaker 1: company can fill these boots, they belong on my feet.
Speaker 2: And his new catchphrase is.
Speaker 1: Tell me what I'm telling lies, which is going to
Speaker 1: be a fantastic catchphrase when he turns heel. So anyway,
Speaker 1: that was the punk promo, and then we had a
Speaker 1: title change with Lucasaurs beating Wardlow for the T and
Speaker 1: T title, when Christian assisted Lucasaurs in winning and then
Speaker 1: took the belt and prayed around with the belt as
Speaker 1: if he had won. We had Andrade versus Buddy Matthews,
Speaker 1: which was a great match which Andrade won with Charlotte
Speaker 1: Flair's figure eight submission at the end after Buddy had
Speaker 1: attempted to submit him with three Ripley's finish, so they
Speaker 1: just pounded on each other. I thought this match was great.
Speaker 1: Then we had Miro returning to squash Tony Knees. We
Speaker 1: had sky Blue and Willow beating Tony Storm and Ruby
Speaker 1: Soho to give sky Blue a win in her hometown,
Speaker 1: which everybody loved. And then, as noted, the main event
Speaker 1: was Simojoe and Juice Robinson versus j White Punk. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry Simojo, Juice and Jay against punkin FTR and you know,
Speaker 1: they went like twenty five minutes I think as how
Speaker 1: long they went, and most of it was FTR versus
Speaker 1: Bullet Club, although Punk did tagging at the end made
Speaker 1: the big hot tag. They had a great spot where
Speaker 1: Joe had Punk in the choke and FTR was being
Speaker 1: held back and Punk sold it like there's no way out.
Speaker 2: He's got a tap.
Speaker 1: But finally FTR broke free and broke it up and
Speaker 1: then FDR hit the Shatter Machine on Juice Punk, Hit
Speaker 1: the GTS, Got the Pin, baby Faces celebrated the end
Speaker 1: the sho show and Yeah, as a self contained debut show,
Speaker 1: thought it was very, very good, but you know, when
Speaker 1: it was over, it felt like a Saturday Night special
Speaker 1: as opposed to this is the new every Saturday.
Speaker 2: Night AW show.
Speaker 1: Hopefully they I mean, we need to start getting It's
Speaker 1: hard because you got all these you got all these shows.
Speaker 1: They've got to plug Forbidden Door, they've got to plug Dynamite.
Speaker 1: Dynamite plugs Rampage, Dynamite plugs Collision. But you can't presume
Speaker 1: that every AW fan is just watching all of.
Speaker 2: These shows Collision.
Speaker 1: I mean, you are going to have certain people that
Speaker 1: only work Collision, and you should be saying, hey, next week,
Speaker 1: this match is on the show. We shot this angle,
Speaker 1: this is the next match. Dynamite, same deal. I mean,
Speaker 1: Dynamite Dynamite. Last week, Dynamite plugged matches for Collision, Dynamite
Speaker 1: plug matches for Rampage, but Dynamite also plug matches for Dynamite,
Speaker 1: and so it should be like that for all of
Speaker 1: the shows, and that was the one thing I think
Speaker 1: they could.
Speaker 2: Have done better.
Speaker 1: But overall, as a debut I thought it was very good.
Speaker 1: And we'll find out tomorrow how the debut show did.
Speaker 1: I think my prediction was eight hundred and forty nine
Speaker 1: thousand if I recall correctly, and we had the big
Speaker 1: over under on the board, like you know, is it
Speaker 1: gonna be over under a lot of people.
Speaker 2: Thought under some thought over I think right on. Know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Mike.
Speaker 1: I know what you're saying in Boston might out tomorrow.
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Speaker 2: This will not be like Collision, where you want to
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Speaker 1: Next week we will be beginning our journey through Nwatna,
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Speaker 1: and it's Vinnie's fault. He'll never live it down. It
Speaker 1: is all his fault. I can't even know what I
Speaker 1: got mad at him about. Now I'm mad at myself.
Speaker 1: But anyway, that's going to be starting tonight, so don't
Speaker 1: miss it everybody. Now, Dynamite is Wednesday, and I cannot
Speaker 1: answer everybody's questions, but I can tell you what I
Speaker 1: know about Dynamite this coming Wednesday, So Okada and Danielson
Speaker 1: are going to be doing something. According to the front
Speaker 1: page of Wrestling Observe dot Com, AW has announced Danielson
Speaker 1: will call out Okada on Dynamite on Wednesday. The episode
Speaker 1: is taking place in Chicago and is the final Dynamite
Speaker 1: before Forbidden Door. The lineup. This is the updated lineup
Speaker 1: for Dynamite.
Speaker 2: This is important.
Speaker 1: We have Danielson calling out Okada, Chris stat Lander versus
Speaker 1: Taya for the TBS title, Jeff Jared and Mark Brisco,
Speaker 1: and a concession stand brawl, Jericho, Sammy and Minor Suzuki
Speaker 1: versus Action Andretti, Darius Martin, Airfox, whatever in the hell
Speaker 1: a blind eliminator tournament for the aw Tag title shot
Speaker 1: is we still do no the Hardies versus the Guns
Speaker 1: to determine the best brother tag team in aw Orange
Speaker 1: Cassidy and Ketsi Orsha bought a veru Zach Saber Junior
Speaker 1: and Daniel Garcia and we will hear from Adam Cole
Speaker 1: after his time limit draw on Wednesday. Now, there is
Speaker 1: a lot missing from this preview, and everybody has asked,
Speaker 1: and there have been a lot of rumors on the internet.
Speaker 1: And if you have not heard the rumors on the internet,
Speaker 1: the rumors on the internet are that the Elite are
Speaker 1: not going to be on this show and cmpunk will
Speaker 1: be on this show. Now I can make it clear
Speaker 1: that these are the rumors on the internet. Now, what
Speaker 1: do I know about this? Well, what I do know
Speaker 1: is that I do not believe that the Elite are
Speaker 1: going to be on the show Wednesday, and I believe
Speaker 1: Dave even reported on the front page that Kenney O
Speaker 1: Meg is not going to be on the show. And
Speaker 1: I do not believe that the young Bucks are going
Speaker 1: to be on the show either. So if they are
Speaker 1: all not going to be on the show, then you
Speaker 1: certainly could have cmpunk show up on Wednesday. Now, they
Speaker 1: have not announced that cmpunk is going to be there Wednesday,
Speaker 1: and unlike his original debut, they have not hinted that.
Speaker 2: He is going to be on the show Wednesday.
Speaker 1: From talking to people within AW, nobody has heard that
Speaker 1: he is going to be there Wednesday. Now am I
Speaker 1: reporting that he is not going to be there Wednesday?
Speaker 2: No, I am not.
Speaker 1: In fact, quite frankly, the idea that you would run
Speaker 1: a show in Chicago and not have cmpunk there, to me,
Speaker 1: seems very hard to believe. But they did not announce
Speaker 1: on Friday or on Collision that he was going to
Speaker 1: be there. They've had no hints that he's going to
Speaker 1: be there. They have no announcement that he's going to
Speaker 1: be there. You know, I can't answer the question if
Speaker 1: you if you put a gun to my head, which
Speaker 1: I prefer you didn't, you know, i'd say I.
Speaker 3: Actually I'm gonna.
Speaker 1: Say I don't know because I don't want people blaming
Speaker 1: me for anything. All I'll say is, right now.
Speaker 3: We wouldn't watch it to eat Carjack it.
Speaker 1: Doesn't appear that he's gonna be there, but I guess
Speaker 1: we'll find out. So there's certainly no indication whatsoever internally
Speaker 1: or advertising wise or hint wise that he is going
Speaker 1: to be there, and they've already got eight segments, so
Speaker 1: I mean, I presume that there's gonna be some sort
Speaker 1: of you know, pre tape with the elite to set
Speaker 1: up whatever they're doing it for Bid Door. I can't
Speaker 1: imagine that the Elite are not working at Forbidden Door.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine the Blackpool Combat Club aren't working Forbidden Door.
Speaker 1: So I guess we'll, uh, we'll find out. We got
Speaker 1: another day to announce it, if it's gonna happen.
Speaker 4: It's hard for me to believe that he won't be
Speaker 4: on there with it being from Chicago. And yeah, I
Speaker 4: mean obviously if you need to put together something with
Speaker 4: the Bucks, but as of now they're not on.
Speaker 2: Oh the Bucks. Yeah, Kenny is working, so yes.
Speaker 3: Oh you know, so it's like with Kenny.
Speaker 4: Will Osbrey can be there standing probably not standing next
Speaker 4: to Takeshta and Kallus cutting a promo on Omega not
Speaker 4: being there, you could do something there.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you are now going to include the Bucks.
Speaker 4: You could, I guess, do that as part of a
Speaker 4: video package as well too. But I don't think it's
Speaker 4: the worst thing in the world, considering we're only days
Speaker 4: away that if you announce their match on you know
Speaker 4: in just in a segment, that it's something that's that
Speaker 4: that's unusual for aw or anything like that. I can
Speaker 4: see that happening. But with it being in Chicago and
Speaker 4: you wanting that reaction and still wanting to be able
Speaker 4: to push Collision, which is a brand new show, I
Speaker 4: think he probably should be on there. Again, you have
Speaker 4: a lot of other things, and I'm sure we're going
Speaker 4: to get some surprises here too. It's hard for me
Speaker 4: to believe that. Obviously you got Minora Suzuki that he
Speaker 4: was going to be tied in with that six man,
Speaker 4: but Okata right now is as it stands right now,
Speaker 4: is the only person from New Japan you know, who's
Speaker 4: getting called out, not even saying he's going to be
Speaker 4: on the show. But I have a feeling he will be,
Speaker 4: and there's going to be others as well.
Speaker 1: So they did it just recently. Add we will hear
Speaker 1: from Adam Cole, and so I think What will be
Speaker 1: a very interesting thing to follow over the next several
Speaker 1: weeks is what's going on. I presume that Adam Cole
Speaker 1: is going to appear and you know, talk about the
Speaker 1: time limit draw and the fact that he wanted five
Speaker 1: more minutes and MGF refused to give it to him
Speaker 1: and how he was not beaten.
Speaker 2: Neither of them were beaten.
Speaker 1: MGF was not beaten the title eliminator, but Adam Cole
Speaker 1: was not beaten either. So I would presume that that
Speaker 1: is what Adam Cole is going to talk about, and
Speaker 1: then it's going to be interesting to see if Punk
Speaker 1: continues to talk about MJF or if they drop that,
Speaker 1: because I don't think that the best thing for business
Speaker 1: is to be simultaneously hyping up both of these matches
Speaker 1: as whatever is coming next, because you don't want fans
Speaker 1: to choose one or the other and you know, booze
Speaker 1: somebody or want to see something or chant this or that.
Speaker 1: So I think it'll be interesting to see the follow
Speaker 1: up they do with Adam Cole, because clearly, I mean
Speaker 1: when they did that show last week, the idea was
Speaker 1: not that this Adam Cole thing is over. If it
Speaker 1: were over, he'd have been beaten, you know, and so
Speaker 1: the fact that he wasn't beaten that they did a
Speaker 1: time limit draw. I mean, that thing is clearly continuing.
Speaker 1: And my presumption is that since it's not taking place
Speaker 1: at Forbidden Door, that it's either going to be the
Speaker 1: match for Wembley or the match for.
Speaker 2: Chicago. The is it Chicago?
Speaker 1: Are we sure that all out is Chicago?
Speaker 2: I think it is right.
Speaker 1: We know Wembley is all in, but my presumption is
Speaker 1: is Chicago's all out? I think that's confirmed, right, Nobody know.
Speaker 4: I'm not one hundred percent sure no with that, but
Speaker 4: I tell you what, if you can, then you get
Speaker 4: MJF working both shows, and then you can, if you
Speaker 4: want to, you can go in that direction and make
Speaker 4: it almost the three way thing if you if again,
Speaker 4: if you wanted to do that, because you could have
Speaker 4: MJF on that huge show in Wembley, which you know
Speaker 4: he's going to be on defending against Adam Cole. Meanwhile,
Speaker 4: he's also got a match already set up against you
Speaker 4: know where the winner of that has a match set
Speaker 4: up in Chicago against CM Punk who was the champion
Speaker 4: and had to give it up. And that's not something
Speaker 4: that they should run from. I'm not They should not
Speaker 4: beat people over the head with it, especially if there's
Speaker 4: no plan to do anything with it. But you know,
Speaker 4: it was brought up in the ESPAN articles, brought up
Speaker 4: everywhere when he left and tore the triceps off. He
Speaker 4: was the champion and there are people that are going
Speaker 4: to remember that, and it is a storyline that people
Speaker 4: are kind of waiting for down the line. So it's
Speaker 4: something that should be on simmer in the background. But
Speaker 4: you know, it should not be on boil if they
Speaker 4: don't from anybody's side, if that's not the direction that
Speaker 4: they're going.
Speaker 1: All right, we've got the Dumbe pay per view schedule
Speaker 1: coming up. We have got July first, Money in the
Speaker 1: Bank go to Arena in London. We have August fifth
Speaker 1: Summer slam Ford Field in Detroit. We have September second,
Speaker 1: how about that. We have got Payback at the PPG
Speaker 1: Paints Arena in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. And we have October seventh,
Speaker 1: Fast Lane at the gain Bridge Fieldhouse in Indianapolis, Indiana.
Speaker 1: So yes, Wue and AW will be going head to
Speaker 1: head on the September second weekend Payback and all out.
Speaker 1: You know, someone better alert Sean because last time I
Speaker 1: heard from him, he said this one could be happening.
Speaker 1: It was a one time only thing, kind of like
Speaker 1: all those India guys shown up at Booker T's gimmick
Speaker 1: or the NXT guys.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and I'm looking to it looks like it in May.
Speaker 4: I'm trying to find out about All Out and if
Speaker 4: it's going to be in at the Now Center or
Speaker 4: where wherever it's going to be the United Center in Chicago.
Speaker 1: I don't think they've announced where it's going to be yet.
Speaker 1: I think everyone just presumes it's going to be there
Speaker 1: because Tony likes to do things, you know, tradition.
Speaker 4: Have they even announced it's taking place, I mean, we know,
Speaker 4: we know for sure.
Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2: I think it was uh Mega.
Speaker 1: Actually that was like an interview and or somebody somebody
Speaker 1: did an interview and confirmed they were doing both shows.
Speaker 2: We just don't know all the details.
Speaker 1: We have no idea broadcast for all In, although, dude,
Speaker 1: I'd bet anything there's no chance they're doing Wembley and
Speaker 1: not broadcasting it somewhere.
Speaker 3: No, of course they are.
Speaker 4: It's just a matter of if it's a Max thing
Speaker 4: or or what it is, or if it's just on
Speaker 4: Bleacher Report like it usually is. I mean, it's it's
Speaker 4: a it's hard for me to believe that, but I
Speaker 4: gotta be honest with the way those dates are set up.
Speaker 3: If you wanted again it's if.
Speaker 4: You wanted to do two title defenses, this may be
Speaker 4: the way to do it between those three.
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Speaker 4: Yes, Mike, you know, I don't want to hold up
Speaker 4: the Raw Report because I know the people it'll take
Speaker 4: five minutes dying to hear it. But yeah, not a
Speaker 4: whole lot happened there. So I'll throw this at you.
Speaker 4: You know, if if it is going to be Sunday,
Speaker 4: the third after they're in Wembley on the twenty seventh,
Speaker 4: and you're running those two shows back to back like that,
Speaker 4: it's hard for me to believe that you would not
Speaker 4: have two title matches, that MJF would not be defending
Speaker 4: that title. And I don't know if it's optimal or not,
Speaker 4: but considering that you're only going to have three shows,
Speaker 4: and yes, you are promoting, you know, you're promoting multiple
Speaker 4: things at a time all the time. They're doing that
Speaker 4: or trying to do it with three TV shows, But
Speaker 4: you only have three TV shows between those two dates.
Speaker 4: And if you're going to have two title matches, you know,
Speaker 4: see him Punk inserting him into this mix a little
Speaker 4: bit either because he defeats Adam Cole immediately. Again, there
Speaker 4: are ways I think you can play this with those
Speaker 4: three guys where you can kind of put it all
Speaker 4: together if you so chosen, if you wanted to. And
Speaker 4: I don't think that's the worst idea in the world.
Speaker 3: I does.
Speaker 4: You know some people will say, well that takes away
Speaker 4: from Adam Cole and MJF. We just got started with it,
Speaker 4: and it doesn't mean that you have to take anything
Speaker 4: away to have Punk a little bit on the outside
Speaker 4: building himself up on a different TV show, trying to
Speaker 4: get a world championship shot. Again, I have no idea
Speaker 4: what they're going to do. They may not even know
Speaker 4: exactly what they're going to do yet, but to me,
Speaker 4: there are wors things then to actually have some sort
Speaker 4: of three way for that title with guys all making
Speaker 4: claims at it and all kind of having excuses as
Speaker 4: to either why they won or didn't.
Speaker 1: Want to mention that SmackDown's main event segment was awesome
Speaker 1: and Raw's main event segment was great. But the thing
Speaker 1: with the two shows, I don't know if it was
Speaker 1: just this week, but go Lee. It was not nearly
Speaker 1: as stupid as twenty nineteen, but these felt like twenty
Speaker 1: nineteen shows. It was just two minute match, two minute match,
Speaker 1: two minute match, two minute match. And they've been doing
Speaker 1: like long matches on TV of late ever since Hunter
Speaker 1: took over. It's like a lot more long matches. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell happened here the last two days,
Speaker 1: but I mean, just nothing happened. SmackDown was just one
Speaker 1: two minute segment after another.
Speaker 3: Well, the whole thing was SmackDown.
Speaker 4: One of the big problems is, you know there don't
Speaker 4: take it for granted that everybody is just waiting to
Speaker 4: see what happens with Jay, Jimmy Roman, and you know,
Speaker 4: any combination of those guys, like you cannot just take Okay,
Speaker 4: we're gonna get two million people because they love this storyline,
Speaker 4: and you just keep feeding them garbage.
Speaker 3: I mean, at some point they're going to regurgitate that.
Speaker 1: Well, the main event angle on SmackDown was Roman and
Speaker 1: Solo and Hayman coming out, and then Jay had to
Speaker 1: come out to make his decision. And long story short,
Speaker 1: Roman tried to convince him that you know, you're going
Speaker 1: to be the tribal chief someday, and I know you
Speaker 1: don't like Paul Hayman, but he's my wise man. When
Speaker 1: you're the tribal chief, you can pick your own wise man.
Speaker 1: And he did. He throw out the big line, which is,
Speaker 1: do you know who the only person was that was
Speaker 1: upset when I made you the right hand man? It
Speaker 1: was your brother Jimmy. He's the only one upset about it.
Speaker 1: And so Jimmy came out and Jay wanted to know
Speaker 1: if it was true, and Jimmy said, yeah, it is true.
Speaker 1: And at that point Jay c bro this guy cut
Speaker 1: the best promo. He cut a fabulous promo on his brother.
Speaker 1: And finally at the end, he concluded that you know
Speaker 1: all of this was because of Roman, So Jimmy, you're out,
Speaker 1: but I'm out too, and he superkicked Roman reigns and
Speaker 1: this place came unglued. And then you know, as I
Speaker 1: mentioned on the Dave Show, this Roman Reigns. Whatever you
Speaker 1: want to say about this guy, it was his turn
Speaker 1: to sell for Jimmy and Jay and Bro. They hit
Speaker 1: this guy with the double superkick, and you've never seen
Speaker 1: a better bump for a double superkick. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know how this guy didn't go through the canvas.
Speaker 1: He took the hardest, fastest, like it was like he'd
Speaker 1: been shot by a like a nuclear warhead. I mean, God,
Speaker 1: this guy bumped for these guys and the place went crazy,
Speaker 1: and they announced it over the weekend that money in
Speaker 1: the bank is is Jimmy and Jay versus Roman Reigns
Speaker 1: and Solo Socoa.
Speaker 2: That's the match.
Speaker 1: And I thought this this segment was just like every
Speaker 1: time they do a big one, like a big twist,
Speaker 1: it's a home run, and this one was a home run.
Speaker 2: It was great. And then your world famous.
Speaker 1: Raw report, which ain't gonna take me a lot of
Speaker 1: time at all because it was a twenty nineteen show.
Speaker 1: Seth comes down to the ring. Tell me if this
Speaker 1: sounds familiar. He's issued an open challenge to anybody. Finn
Speaker 1: Balor comes out now in real life, Finn Balor should
Speaker 1: accept the open challenge. He's the first guy out there,
Speaker 1: do your open challenge. Whether you win or lose, you
Speaker 1: got another match to the bay per of you who
Speaker 1: cares no. Instead, he beats up Seth Rawlins, so Seth
Speaker 1: cannot do his open challenge. He destroys him for like
Speaker 1: five straight minutes. They go to commercial, they come back,
Speaker 1: he destroys him even more, and we don't get the
Speaker 1: open challenge. We do not get the advertised o challenge,
Speaker 1: and they do the whole show talking about how the
Speaker 1: guy is injured. And then at the very end of
Speaker 1: the show, we have an interview with Seth and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, goddamn that hurt. But I'm gonna be there tomorrow.
Speaker 1: I don't care what these doctors say. I'm gonna be there.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna defend my title against brown Breaker. Actually he
Speaker 1: didn't do his lap. I actually thought he did a
Speaker 1: good promo because there was none of the character. It
Speaker 1: was just a serious promo. But it was ridiculous.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it was absolutely ridiculous.
Speaker 1: And then Miz came out screaming about all of his
Speaker 1: problems and how he wanted to accept the open challenge
Speaker 1: and give the people of Cleveland a winner, and out
Speaker 1: comes Champa and he attacks Miz. They do a two
Speaker 1: minute match and Champa hits him with a fairy tale
Speaker 1: ending and pins him.
Speaker 2: This led to.
Speaker 1: Finn and the Judgment Day coming up to do a
Speaker 1: promo They're all gonna win their matches at Money in
Speaker 1: the Bank, and then Dom's just getting totally booed out
Speaker 1: of the building. It's even better. Before it was like
Speaker 1: he'd start to talking a boo. Now he just starts
Speaker 1: to bring the mic up and they start booing then,
Speaker 1: and so he challenges Cody to find two partners to
Speaker 1: face him.
Speaker 2: Tonight.
Speaker 1: We had a show long storyline which is my current
Speaker 1: second favorite storyline behind the Bloodline.
Speaker 2: Kevin as a hothead.
Speaker 1: Sammy goes, you know, the interviewer wants to know about
Speaker 1: the Bloodline breaking up, and Kevin's like, I want to
Speaker 1: talk about him. I'm sick of talking about these guys.
Speaker 1: And Sammy's like, bro, it's a fair question, and you
Speaker 1: know what, I think we got to talk about this.
Speaker 1: It's just the two of us en Byron, no one
Speaker 1: else is around. Well, I think you're a rage a
Speaker 1: hollick and Kevin goes a lot, and so Sammy essentially says.
Speaker 2: Dude, you got an anger problem.
Speaker 1: Kevin denies it, and Sammy says, Okay, if you can
Speaker 1: go the whole show without blowing your stack, I will
Speaker 1: never bring it up again. But if your stack on
Speaker 1: this show, we need to agree that you've got some
Speaker 1: sort of problem. Kevin says, all right, I got no problem. Now,
Speaker 1: like Aron twenty nineteen, we'd had no resolution. I mean,
Speaker 1: he kind of blew up, but he didn't, and then
Speaker 1: there was like we went off the air with no nothing.
Speaker 1: So I guess we'll find out next week if Samy's
Speaker 1: determined that he had a blow up or not.
Speaker 2: We had. Now this was great.
Speaker 1: I don't know if this was borash, but this was
Speaker 1: like the kind of creative thing that he would come
Speaker 1: up with. We had a series of Instagram videos. You know,
Speaker 1: someone's swiping through their Instagram feed to the videos and
Speaker 1: it's all Chelsea being a Karen and they were great.
Speaker 1: But then of course it led to Caden and Katana
Speaker 1: versus Sonya and Chelsea, and it went two minutes and
Speaker 1: the Babyfaces beat the Karen and Sonya. Cody came out
Speaker 1: for a promo in the aisle, he was asked, what
Speaker 1: about that six man later he goes, I can find
Speaker 1: a couple of guys.
Speaker 2: Then they played his music. That was a whole segment.
Speaker 1: Also two minutes a rib at this point on me
Speaker 1: in New Sheribird's Sheldon Cedric. Two minutes, Sammy and Kevin
Speaker 1: are backstage. Kevin's fixing the blow because you know, first
Speaker 1: some guy spells water on him, he eats water on him,
Speaker 1: and then they run into riddle. Has just been a gimmick,
Speaker 1: but Kevin controls himself. Then we had This was a.
Speaker 2: Classic twenty nineteen segment. Logan.
Speaker 1: Paul's in the ring sitting on a ladder. He is
Speaker 1: from Cleveland, which is where the show is at. He
Speaker 1: begins his promo talking about how great Cleveland is. Then
Speaker 1: he switches to saying, you know it's it's my life's
Speaker 1: been great ever since I left. I got out of here,
Speaker 1: I went and became famous. I don't have to sit
Speaker 1: through these cold ass winners. You you people have to
Speaker 1: suffer through total He'll promo, and then he goes, but
Speaker 1: a lot of Clevelanders have failed of late, but that
Speaker 1: changes tonight. I will be going to money in the bank.
Speaker 1: I will win that break case. I will cash in.
Speaker 1: I will win this championship for Cleveland, and I'm gonna
Speaker 1: come back here and throw him back some shots and
Speaker 1: we're gonna go crazy.
Speaker 2: Are you a babyface? Are you a heel? Or are you?
Speaker 1: As Kevin said later, I don't have an anger problem.
Speaker 1: I have an idiot problem.
Speaker 2: What are you? Bro?
Speaker 1: And then everybody in the money in the bank came
Speaker 1: out and they all vowed to win, and then it
Speaker 1: was a brawl, and then he climbed up and he
Speaker 1: sat with the briefcase Matt Riddle, ludebitg Kaiser. Thank god,
Speaker 1: we finally got to match it win more than two minutes,
Speaker 1: and it was good. And they had some counters at
Speaker 1: the end of this match that were flat out awesome
Speaker 1: that I've never seen before. Like Riddle tried to do
Speaker 1: something off the middle rope. I think it was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what it was, but he got caught
Speaker 1: in mid air and Kaiser caught him while spinning and
Speaker 1: then did a rolling fireman's carry. I never saw that before.
Speaker 1: Corty didn't even know what it was. And then we
Speaker 1: had another awesome one where Kaiser goes for the elbow
Speaker 1: off the ropes and he gets out of mid air
Speaker 1: on that one, and then Bro Derek won two three,
Speaker 1: and then the Heels destroyed his leg to get revenge
Speaker 1: for him breaking the leg of Baldy as they.
Speaker 4: Called Giovanni Vinci. By the way, is he legitimately injured?
Speaker 3: I guess it is.
Speaker 1: I have been told he's not, but that doesn't mean
Speaker 1: he isn't because they're very secretive with that sort of thing.
Speaker 1: But the belief backstage is that he's actually interests an
Speaker 1: angle and we had Kevin and Sammy getting a text.
Speaker 1: They blew off Imperium. We got footage of the Alpha
Speaker 1: Academy try to teach Maxine how to do a supplex.
Speaker 1: This led to Viking Raiders versus alf Academy. Last week
Speaker 1: they did this match and I Valhalla tried to interfere,
Speaker 1: Maxine hit her with a move and that led to
Speaker 1: Alpha Academy winning. It felt like, my god, they're gonna
Speaker 1: do some of these guys. They do the same thing
Speaker 1: this week. Valhalla goes to do something, Maxine pulls her off,
Speaker 1: the apron hits her with the big supplex. Everybody pops,
Speaker 1: but this time Chad is distracted, hit with a knee
Speaker 1: and pinned your classic twenty nineteen fifty booking, I was.
Speaker 2: Like, God, I'm hating this show.
Speaker 1: Ria was supposed to wrestle Naddy. They did the exact
Speaker 1: same angle they did in the opener where Ria beat
Speaker 1: her up and we had no match twice on the
Speaker 1: same show. This show is a classic example of when
Speaker 1: I say that things are better now, people Nope, they're
Speaker 1: exactly the same.
Speaker 2: No, they're not, because this was clearly, clearly the way it.
Speaker 1: Used to be and not the way it's been for
Speaker 1: the past ten months or whatever. Cody met with Tizou
Speaker 1: wants to be his partner. He says he'll think about it,
Speaker 1: but then Kevin and Sammy show up and they're gonna
Speaker 1: be the partners. Trish and Raquel, this is a qualifier
Speaker 1: for money in the bank. Becky runs in, she goes
Speaker 1: after Zoe. Trish goes after her, but Becky attacks Trish.
Speaker 2: She's dequed.
Speaker 1: Trish qualifies for money in the bank via DQ. The
Speaker 1: show has not been exactly the same. The show has
Speaker 1: been way better, and this is what it used to be.
Speaker 2: Bron Breaker doing a promo.
Speaker 1: Talking about the match at NXT Bronson Reid Shinnskate Nakamura.
Speaker 1: Bronson won Rickshe was at ringside. They're doing the three
Speaker 1: way thing. Ricksha got involved. Distraction led to Knakamura getting
Speaker 1: German and then Tsunami for the pin. It's good match
Speaker 1: nine minutes and then after the SETH promo, we had Finn,
Speaker 1: Dom and Priest versus Cody, Sammy and Kevin. Excellent main event.
Speaker 1: They got time, everybody looked good. Everybody was hitting all
Speaker 1: their big spots, and then at the end everybody hit
Speaker 1: a finish.
Speaker 2: On Dom, he.
Speaker 1: Bailed outside, Cody hit the crossroads on Priest pinned him.
Speaker 1: Finn is not happy with Damian Priest. Damian Priest is
Speaker 1: doing a lot of jobs and this is all leading
Speaker 1: to Damien Priest splitting and going baby face down the road.
Speaker 1: So last hour saved the show. First two hours just
Speaker 1: it sucked.
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Speaker 2: It was good. I'll post it at a normal time.
Speaker 1: If it's bad, I'll post it at midnight.
Speaker 2: That's new.
Speaker 1: That's the new conspiracy, though there's no evidence of that whatsoever.
Speaker 1: But tonight, what I can tell you is it is
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Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 1: I think it's like tell us you're a wrestling fan
Speaker 1: without telling us you're a wrestling fan in one sentence.
Speaker 1: I thought people might be able to come up with
Speaker 1: some creative stuff. So that's tonight. And uh, yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: be reviewing the first episode of n WATNA, the first
Speaker 1: weekly pay per view from the Asylum, which I've been
Speaker 1: told socked, but I'll be the determiner of that.
Speaker 4: Canna see uh with NASCAR superstar Sterling Marlin walk out there?
Speaker 3: Wow?
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Speaker 3: They would not be at the fairgrounds quite yet, but.
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