WEBVTT - Collision and SmackDown Recaps 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:06.640 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. 0:00:08.080 --> 0:00:14.200 Ready, when you're ready, let's get it all. How's it 0:00:14.240 --> 0:00:14.800 going to everybody? 0:00:14.840 --> 0:00:18.400 Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live. We are here 0:00:18.440 --> 0:00:21.639 every day Monday through Friday, New Pacific three Eastern, Sunday 0:00:21.720 --> 0:00:25.919 three Pacific six Eastern, and Saturday mornings with Jim Valley, 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:28.960 Tenday and Pacific one Eastern. And it is Tuesday on 0:00:29.040 --> 0:00:32.199 this show, although all day yesterday it felt like it 0:00:32.280 --> 0:00:35.320 was Sunday, but yesterday was a holiday, so we were 0:00:35.320 --> 0:00:37.519 not here. We have me to here since Friday, and 0:00:37.560 --> 0:00:39.680 we have a lot to talk about here today. 0:00:40.280 --> 0:00:41.559 What lot happened over the weekend. 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:46.520 We had the debut of aw Collision. 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:47.840 What do you think of that show? 0:00:48.440 --> 0:00:51.159 We had the SmackDown show with the big angle in 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:55.200 the main event of the Bloodline splitting leading to Roman 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:57.760 reigns and Solo versus the USO's coming up at Money 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:01.280 in the Bank. We had a rampage show, and of 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:05.479 course last night we had Raw which was not much 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:08.560 of a show outside of the main event, and I 0:01:08.600 --> 0:01:12.839 would say most of the last hour but this coming Wednesday, 0:01:13.040 --> 0:01:16.119 we have got the Dynamite show. We have got two 0:01:16.240 --> 0:01:18.920 big nights of NXT this week and next week they've 0:01:18.959 --> 0:01:22.200 got special shows. We have got Collision this coming Saturday, 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:26.800 as well as Forbidden Door coming up on Sunday, and 0:01:26.920 --> 0:01:29.080 so a lot of things to get into here. Today 0:01:29.120 --> 0:01:32.320 we'll go over lineups. We have got the ticket sales 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.920 for the Collision show. What was the final number of 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:39.560 that show, as well as the numbers for Dynamite and 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:44.679 Rampage also in Chicago this coming Wednesday. We have got 0:01:44.760 --> 0:01:48.480 AWE pay per view schedule for those of you that 0:01:48.600 --> 0:01:52.000 are looking forward to upcoming shows later on this year. 0:01:52.440 --> 0:01:56.080 And NWA is doing a fundraising event that we want 0:01:56.120 --> 0:01:58.200 to talk about as well. And then of course we'll 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.000 talk about all of the shows that we have not 0:02:00.120 --> 0:02:02.840 talked about yet here on this program, some in detail 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:06.680 like Collision, some in not a lot of detail. I 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:08.440 don't know how much I got to talk about. Most 0:02:08.480 --> 0:02:11.679 of Raw felt like a twenty nineteen show with a 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:15.080 bunch of two minute matches, nothing happening, and then finally 0:02:15.080 --> 0:02:17.040 we did get a good main event. But all of 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:18.640 that and more today if you want to Texas four 0:02:18.680 --> 0:02:21.440 two five seven eight zero seven five sixty six. That 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:24.160 is four two five seven eight zero seven five sixty six. 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.240 Bryan at Wrestling Observer dot Com at Brian Elberez on 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:44.560 Twitter backing, I'm one with more Observer Live back in 0:02:44.600 --> 0:02:50.440 the show, Brian Elberrez here, Wrestling Observer Alive. Unfrozen cave 0:02:50.560 --> 0:02:54.040 Man actually is frozen. Mike semperviv is joining us today 0:02:54.040 --> 0:02:57.320 from a frozen state, but we'll see if we can 0:02:57.400 --> 0:03:00.560 fix that as time moves on here today, we got 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:02.480 a lot to talk about because we haven't been here 0:03:02.560 --> 0:03:05.840 since a Friday, and a lot has happened since Friday, 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:11.000 has it not. We had the Bloodline exploding, and they 0:03:11.000 --> 0:03:13.480 actually did it differently than I thought they would because 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.560 I figured that they were going to go with Roman 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:20.040 Reigns and Jimmy first and Jay wouldn't make his decision 0:03:20.160 --> 0:03:21.400 till the match actually happened. 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:22.639 But hey, they. 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:24.480 Promised he was going to make his decision on Friday, 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:25.920 and he did, so there you go. 0:03:26.040 --> 0:03:26.560 They've split. 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.000 We'll tell you about that later on. And we also 0:03:29.080 --> 0:03:34.680 had the Collision Show, the debut of Collision, and that 0:03:34.760 --> 0:03:37.680 of course is going to lead to Dynamite here Collision 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.800 this coming Saturday. I'm sure they'll have a match or 0:03:40.800 --> 0:03:43.760 two for Rampage as well, and then we will have 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:48.160 the Forbidden Door show coming up on Sunday. Now, the 0:03:48.640 --> 0:03:52.280 Dynamite show tomorrow is also in Chicago. It is at 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:58.240 the wind Trust Arena. The current setup is for forty fans. 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:01.440 They have two hundred and sixty five t's left according 0:04:01.480 --> 0:04:05.120 to wrestle Tics, six seventy five sold at this point. 0:04:05.160 --> 0:04:07.720 Obviously they could open up more sections if they wanted to, 0:04:08.400 --> 0:04:10.760 and then for a Collision on Friday. The final number 0:04:10.760 --> 0:04:14.560 according to wrestle Tics nine two hundred and eighty, which 0:04:14.600 --> 0:04:18.120 is right around exactly what people were predicting that would 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:23.599 finish at. For the return of cm Punk and the show, 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:30.360 I thought was a very good show, but it was 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:35.279 missing some stuff and we can go over the gist 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:39.719 of the deal here. But long story short, the show 0:04:39.800 --> 0:04:43.320 was all built around cmpunk. Cmpunk came out being the 0:04:43.360 --> 0:04:49.520 show and he cut a long promo which was interesting 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:53.520 for a lot of reasons, and then afterwards he came 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:58.000 out for a thirty minute main event, which was an 0:04:58.040 --> 0:05:02.080 excellent main event, and then the show went off the 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:06.280 air and my biggest complaint, if you want to call 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:10.200 it a complaint, is that the show felt like an 0:05:10.200 --> 0:05:14.479 addition of Saturday Night's main event, where it was a 0:05:14.520 --> 0:05:18.360 bunch of things happened. Some of it was great, some 0:05:18.440 --> 0:05:20.720 of it was just kind of there, and at the 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:22.440 end of the day, it felt like a very special 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:25.919 one off show, but did not feel like this is 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:28.839 the beginning of a Saturday Night series because when the 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:33.760 show was over, they announced nothing for this week's Collision. 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:38.360 Not one match was announced for Collision. They announced matches 0:05:38.400 --> 0:05:41.800 for Dynamite and obviously we'll get matches for fromid Door, 0:05:42.160 --> 0:05:45.640 but there was no match, not one single match announced 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.719 for next week's Collision. And I felt that they should 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.279 have shot a big angle on the show. They should 0:05:51.320 --> 0:05:54.920 have had somebody come out and challenge CM Punk. You know, 0:05:55.000 --> 0:05:56.480 there have been a lot of people that said, oh, 0:05:56.480 --> 0:05:58.680 you know, as next feud is with this person, this person. 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:03.000 We don't know who is next a feud is with. 0:06:03.720 --> 0:06:06.080 It was not mentioned at all. Yeah, he was in 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:08.440 the ring with Samoa Joe, but he was in the 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:11.200 ring with other guys as well. Yeah, he cut promos 0:06:11.200 --> 0:06:14.360 on certain people, including MJF. But it's not gonna be 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:18.080 MGF next because MGF and Tanahashi is on Sunday and 0:06:18.240 --> 0:06:20.479 MJF and Adam Punkin or Adam Cole is going to 0:06:20.480 --> 0:06:23.240 be after that. So the show went off the air 0:06:23.240 --> 0:06:26.280 and we have no idea who cmpunk is feuding with, 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.359 and we have nothing announced for this coming Saturday. So 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:31.640 I felt they could have done a better job with that. 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.800 But overall, in terms of you know, getting people talking 0:06:35.920 --> 0:06:38.240 and that sort of deal, I thought that it was 0:06:38.320 --> 0:06:42.360 a it was a very good show. So, uh, even 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:46.240 though Mike is still frozen, Mike, Yes, what did you 0:06:46.360 --> 0:06:47.919 think of the Collision debut? 0:06:48.920 --> 0:06:50.600 I thought it was a very good debut. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:54.120 And yes, I do think there definitely needs to be 0:06:54.279 --> 0:06:59.440 some sort of string that connects all three shows Collision, 0:06:59.520 --> 0:07:03.760 Rampage and Dynamite together. They got to make sure they 0:07:03.800 --> 0:07:06.360 have a string going throughout all of them, especially when 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:08.960 it comes to the Friday night show, because that's the 0:07:08.960 --> 0:07:12.480 one that in the immediate future needs all of the 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.040 help that it can get here. But I thought when 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.520 he came to the matches, you know, when he came 0:07:17.560 --> 0:07:20.520 to Buddy and Androte, I thought that was great. I 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.400 don't know about beating Wardlow, but I'm sure they wanted 0:07:23.440 --> 0:07:26.960 to have the first match have a lot of historical impact, 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:29.600 and you have that because the very first match you had, 0:07:29.920 --> 0:07:33.560 you had a championship change. But I thought Willow Nightingale 0:07:33.600 --> 0:07:35.800 and Sky Blue we talked about it last week. What 0:07:35.840 --> 0:07:37.480 are we going to do with sky Blue or are 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:39.600 they going to go ahead and continue to follow up? 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:41.440 And I thought they did a very good job of 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:45.520 that with she and Willow Nightingale and then Sky ultimately 0:07:45.560 --> 0:07:48.080 getting the victory. And then as you move on the 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:50.880 main event, I thought needed what it needed to be 0:07:50.960 --> 0:07:53.440 as well too, So I thought it was a very 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:56.920 well paced show. I thought, again, you got Scorpio Sky 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:58.240 out of the way with a little bit of a 0:07:58.320 --> 0:07:59.440 video package there. 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:01.960 So good first start, that's for sure. 0:08:02.920 --> 0:08:06.520 Well, it opened up with the cmpunk promo, and what 0:08:06.600 --> 0:08:11.480 appears to be happening is that he's likely going to Ah. 0:08:11.520 --> 0:08:13.000 I'm not saying this is gonna be immediate, but it's 0:08:13.000 --> 0:08:15.200 obviously gonna happen down the road. He's gonna do the 0:08:15.240 --> 0:08:17.920 Brett Hard deal where he's a babyface in Chicago and 0:08:17.960 --> 0:08:18.160 he is. 0:08:18.160 --> 0:08:19.280 A heel everywhere else. 0:08:19.840 --> 0:08:23.360 And I don't think that they're immediately going heal with 0:08:23.480 --> 0:08:26.720 him unless the fans like just totally boom out of 0:08:26.760 --> 0:08:29.760 building from this Saturday forward. But I think that at 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:33.280 some point he is going to be turning. And he 0:08:33.520 --> 0:08:37.760 targeted various people. He made a comment about how David 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:40.960 Zaslov called him one bill Phil because he's the one 0:08:41.280 --> 0:08:45.960 genuine article in a business full of counterfeit bucks. He 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:52.160 had a red bag, which was interesting because he didn't 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:56.120 say the aw title was in the bag, but he 0:08:56.240 --> 0:08:59.600 said what was in this bag I held over my 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:03.240 head when you last saw me, And essentially, you know 0:09:03.640 --> 0:09:05.880 he's doing the I'm the real champion in MGF, is 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:10.400 not at some point building up to a you know, 0:09:10.520 --> 0:09:13.559 champion versus uncrowned champion match or however you want to 0:09:13.640 --> 0:09:17.319 term it. And then he said, you know, I've got 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:18.880 my boots around my neck. Some people want me to 0:09:18.920 --> 0:09:21.040 leave them in the ring, but until somebody in this 0:09:21.080 --> 0:09:23.720 company can fill these boots, they belong on my feet. 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:26.319 And his new catchphrase is. 0:09:26.679 --> 0:09:29.880 Tell me what I'm telling lies, which is going to 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:34.640 be a fantastic catchphrase when he turns heel. So anyway, 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:37.200 that was the punk promo, and then we had a 0:09:37.200 --> 0:09:40.320 title change with Lucasaurs beating Wardlow for the T and 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:46.240 T title, when Christian assisted Lucasaurs in winning and then 0:09:46.320 --> 0:09:48.280 took the belt and prayed around with the belt as 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:51.680 if he had won. We had Andrade versus Buddy Matthews, 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:58.360 which was a great match which Andrade won with Charlotte 0:09:58.440 --> 0:10:02.280 Flair's figure eight submission at the end after Buddy had 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.719 attempted to submit him with three Ripley's finish, so they 0:10:05.960 --> 0:10:09.480 just pounded on each other. I thought this match was great. 0:10:09.720 --> 0:10:12.960 Then we had Miro returning to squash Tony Knees. We 0:10:13.000 --> 0:10:16.080 had sky Blue and Willow beating Tony Storm and Ruby 0:10:16.160 --> 0:10:18.840 Soho to give sky Blue a win in her hometown, 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:21.760 which everybody loved. And then, as noted, the main event 0:10:21.840 --> 0:10:25.640 was Simojoe and Juice Robinson versus j White Punk. I'm 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:30.760 sorry Simojo, Juice and Jay against punkin FTR and you know, 0:10:30.840 --> 0:10:34.520 they went like twenty five minutes I think as how 0:10:34.559 --> 0:10:38.600 long they went, and most of it was FTR versus 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:41.640 Bullet Club, although Punk did tagging at the end made 0:10:41.640 --> 0:10:44.200 the big hot tag. They had a great spot where 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:46.959 Joe had Punk in the choke and FTR was being 0:10:47.000 --> 0:10:49.800 held back and Punk sold it like there's no way out. 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:50.520 He's got a tap. 0:10:50.559 --> 0:10:54.400 But finally FTR broke free and broke it up and 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.720 then FDR hit the Shatter Machine on Juice Punk, Hit 0:10:56.760 --> 0:10:59.840 the GTS, Got the Pin, baby Faces celebrated the end 0:10:59.840 --> 0:11:04.880 the sho show and Yeah, as a self contained debut show, 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:07.400 thought it was very, very good, but you know, when 0:11:07.400 --> 0:11:10.480 it was over, it felt like a Saturday Night special 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:14.920 as opposed to this is the new every Saturday. 0:11:14.559 --> 0:11:17.120 Night AW show. 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:20.840 Hopefully they I mean, we need to start getting It's 0:11:20.840 --> 0:11:23.320 hard because you got all these you got all these shows. 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.679 They've got to plug Forbidden Door, they've got to plug Dynamite. 0:11:26.760 --> 0:11:31.640 Dynamite plugs Rampage, Dynamite plugs Collision. But you can't presume 0:11:32.400 --> 0:11:35.040 that every AW fan is just watching all of. 0:11:35.000 --> 0:11:36.679 These shows Collision. 0:11:37.320 --> 0:11:39.120 I mean, you are going to have certain people that 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:42.640 only work Collision, and you should be saying, hey, next week, 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:44.720 this match is on the show. We shot this angle, 0:11:44.800 --> 0:11:47.480 this is the next match. Dynamite, same deal. I mean, 0:11:47.559 --> 0:11:52.600 Dynamite Dynamite. Last week, Dynamite plugged matches for Collision, Dynamite 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:57.360 plug matches for Rampage, but Dynamite also plug matches for Dynamite, 0:11:57.400 --> 0:11:59.200 and so it should be like that for all of 0:11:59.240 --> 0:12:01.679 the shows, and that was the one thing I think 0:12:01.679 --> 0:12:02.199 they could. 0:12:02.000 --> 0:12:02.640 Have done better. 0:12:03.080 --> 0:12:07.319 But overall, as a debut I thought it was very good. 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:10.440 And we'll find out tomorrow how the debut show did. 0:12:11.080 --> 0:12:13.160 I think my prediction was eight hundred and forty nine 0:12:13.200 --> 0:12:15.880 thousand if I recall correctly, and we had the big 0:12:15.920 --> 0:12:17.520 over under on the board, like you know, is it 0:12:17.520 --> 0:12:19.880 gonna be over under a lot of people. 0:12:19.600 --> 0:12:24.839 Thought under some thought over I think right on. Know 0:12:24.840 --> 0:12:25.840 what I'm saying, Mike. 0:12:26.360 --> 0:12:28.680 I know what you're saying in Boston might out tomorrow. 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:32.560 I see now now you're alive, back in a moment 0:12:32.920 --> 0:13:07.120 with a more Observer lives. 0:12:54.400 --> 0:12:55.000 Back in the show. 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:58.079 Bryan Elberz here Wrestling Observer Live. Mike ccep for bb 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:01.720 also Wrestling Observer dot Com. Hey don't forget tonight is 0:13:01.760 --> 0:13:10.840 the night twenty one years ago. This week in Nwatna, myself, 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:15.120 Vinny Craig Sean will be reviewing beginning this week. 0:13:16.040 --> 0:13:17.760 This will not be like Collision, where you want to 0:13:17.800 --> 0:13:18.240 know what's coming. 0:13:18.320 --> 0:13:25.880 Next week we will be beginning our journey through Nwatna, 0:13:25.960 --> 0:13:29.960 starting with the first ever weekly pay per view in 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:35.120 the Asylum, Brian Rose says that was a very bad 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:40.520 show Von Braun Civic Center. Man, I can't wait to 0:13:40.640 --> 0:13:45.240 suffer through this for your enjoyment, my friends. But that begins, 0:13:45.320 --> 0:13:48.319 and it's Vinnie's fault. He'll never live it down. It 0:13:48.480 --> 0:13:50.520 is all his fault. I can't even know what I 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.520 got mad at him about. Now I'm mad at myself. 0:13:52.679 --> 0:13:56.240 But anyway, that's going to be starting tonight, so don't 0:13:56.280 --> 0:14:02.520 miss it everybody. Now, Dynamite is Wednesday, and I cannot 0:14:02.520 --> 0:14:05.840 answer everybody's questions, but I can tell you what I 0:14:05.840 --> 0:14:12.120 know about Dynamite this coming Wednesday, So Okada and Danielson 0:14:12.840 --> 0:14:16.160 are going to be doing something. According to the front 0:14:16.160 --> 0:14:18.840 page of Wrestling Observe dot Com, AW has announced Danielson 0:14:18.880 --> 0:14:23.480 will call out Okada on Dynamite on Wednesday. The episode 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:26.720 is taking place in Chicago and is the final Dynamite 0:14:26.800 --> 0:14:32.480 before Forbidden Door. The lineup. This is the updated lineup 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:33.200 for Dynamite. 0:14:33.880 --> 0:14:34.520 This is important. 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:40.120 We have Danielson calling out Okada, Chris stat Lander versus 0:14:40.120 --> 0:14:43.960 Taya for the TBS title, Jeff Jared and Mark Brisco, 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:48.880 and a concession stand brawl, Jericho, Sammy and Minor Suzuki 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:55.120 versus Action Andretti, Darius Martin, Airfox, whatever in the hell 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:59.400 a blind eliminator tournament for the aw Tag title shot 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:02.800 is we still do no the Hardies versus the Guns 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:07.600 to determine the best brother tag team in aw Orange 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.960 Cassidy and Ketsi Orsha bought a veru Zach Saber Junior 0:15:09.960 --> 0:15:14.160 and Daniel Garcia and we will hear from Adam Cole 0:15:14.200 --> 0:15:20.040 after his time limit draw on Wednesday. Now, there is 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:25.440 a lot missing from this preview, and everybody has asked, 0:15:26.280 --> 0:15:28.280 and there have been a lot of rumors on the internet. 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:32.000 And if you have not heard the rumors on the internet, 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:35.600 the rumors on the internet are that the Elite are 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.720 not going to be on this show and cmpunk will 0:15:39.760 --> 0:15:44.120 be on this show. Now I can make it clear 0:15:44.320 --> 0:15:46.200 that these are the rumors on the internet. Now, what 0:15:46.200 --> 0:15:48.280 do I know about this? Well, what I do know 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:52.640 is that I do not believe that the Elite are 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.640 going to be on the show Wednesday, and I believe 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:58.480 Dave even reported on the front page that Kenney O 0:15:58.600 --> 0:16:01.120 Meg is not going to be on the show. And 0:16:01.280 --> 0:16:03.280 I do not believe that the young Bucks are going 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:05.800 to be on the show either. So if they are 0:16:05.880 --> 0:16:09.400 all not going to be on the show, then you 0:16:09.440 --> 0:16:14.560 certainly could have cmpunk show up on Wednesday. Now, they 0:16:14.560 --> 0:16:18.000 have not announced that cmpunk is going to be there Wednesday, 0:16:18.760 --> 0:16:24.680 and unlike his original debut, they have not hinted that. 0:16:24.680 --> 0:16:26.280 He is going to be on the show Wednesday. 0:16:27.280 --> 0:16:32.640 From talking to people within AW, nobody has heard that 0:16:32.720 --> 0:16:35.560 he is going to be there Wednesday. Now am I 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:37.920 reporting that he is not going to be there Wednesday? 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:38.400 No, I am not. 0:16:38.560 --> 0:16:42.680 In fact, quite frankly, the idea that you would run 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:47.680 a show in Chicago and not have cmpunk there, to me, 0:16:47.920 --> 0:16:52.280 seems very hard to believe. But they did not announce 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:54.520 on Friday or on Collision that he was going to 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:56.160 be there. They've had no hints that he's going to 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:57.920 be there. They have no announcement that he's going to 0:16:57.960 --> 0:17:01.680 be there. You know, I can't answer the question if 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:04.000 you if you put a gun to my head, which 0:17:04.040 --> 0:17:06.879 I prefer you didn't, you know, i'd say I. 0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:07.960 Actually I'm gonna. 0:17:07.720 --> 0:17:09.679 Say I don't know because I don't want people blaming 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:13.240 me for anything. All I'll say is, right now. 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:15.040 We wouldn't watch it to eat Carjack it. 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:17.640 Doesn't appear that he's gonna be there, but I guess 0:17:17.640 --> 0:17:21.760 we'll find out. So there's certainly no indication whatsoever internally 0:17:22.320 --> 0:17:25.800 or advertising wise or hint wise that he is going 0:17:25.840 --> 0:17:28.240 to be there, and they've already got eight segments, so 0:17:29.400 --> 0:17:31.160 I mean, I presume that there's gonna be some sort 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.400 of you know, pre tape with the elite to set 0:17:33.480 --> 0:17:35.040 up whatever they're doing it for Bid Door. I can't 0:17:35.080 --> 0:17:38.280 imagine that the Elite are not working at Forbidden Door. 0:17:38.680 --> 0:17:42.480 I can't imagine the Blackpool Combat Club aren't working Forbidden Door. 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.840 So I guess we'll, uh, we'll find out. We got 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.080 another day to announce it, if it's gonna happen. 0:17:49.400 --> 0:17:51.439 It's hard for me to believe that he won't be 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:53.840 on there with it being from Chicago. And yeah, I 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:56.399 mean obviously if you need to put together something with 0:17:56.480 --> 0:17:58.360 the Bucks, but as of now they're not on. 0:17:58.440 --> 0:18:00.919 Oh the Bucks. Yeah, Kenny is working, so yes. 0:18:01.080 --> 0:18:04.440 Oh you know, so it's like with Kenny. 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:09.720 Will Osbrey can be there standing probably not standing next 0:18:09.720 --> 0:18:13.639 to Takeshta and Kallus cutting a promo on Omega not 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:15.320 being there, you could do something there. 0:18:15.320 --> 0:18:18.080 I mean, if you are now going to include the Bucks. 0:18:18.240 --> 0:18:20.399 You could, I guess, do that as part of a 0:18:20.480 --> 0:18:23.640 video package as well too. But I don't think it's 0:18:24.400 --> 0:18:27.119 the worst thing in the world, considering we're only days 0:18:27.119 --> 0:18:30.479 away that if you announce their match on you know 0:18:30.840 --> 0:18:34.000 in just in a segment, that it's something that's that 0:18:34.000 --> 0:18:36.880 that's unusual for aw or anything like that. I can 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.479 see that happening. But with it being in Chicago and 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.040 you wanting that reaction and still wanting to be able 0:18:43.080 --> 0:18:46.119 to push Collision, which is a brand new show, I 0:18:46.119 --> 0:18:48.679 think he probably should be on there. Again, you have 0:18:48.760 --> 0:18:50.960 a lot of other things, and I'm sure we're going 0:18:51.040 --> 0:18:53.119 to get some surprises here too. It's hard for me 0:18:53.200 --> 0:18:56.680 to believe that. Obviously you got Minora Suzuki that he 0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:58.480 was going to be tied in with that six man, 0:18:58.680 --> 0:19:01.840 but Okata right now is as it stands right now, 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:05.000 is the only person from New Japan you know, who's 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:07.000 getting called out, not even saying he's going to be 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.000 on the show. But I have a feeling he will be, 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.600 and there's going to be others as well. 0:19:11.720 --> 0:19:14.040 So they did it just recently. Add we will hear 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.159 from Adam Cole, and so I think What will be 0:19:17.200 --> 0:19:20.199 a very interesting thing to follow over the next several 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:24.879 weeks is what's going on. I presume that Adam Cole 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.600 is going to appear and you know, talk about the 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:30.680 time limit draw and the fact that he wanted five 0:19:30.760 --> 0:19:32.880 more minutes and MGF refused to give it to him 0:19:33.080 --> 0:19:34.680 and how he was not beaten. 0:19:35.480 --> 0:19:36.399 Neither of them were beaten. 0:19:36.520 --> 0:19:39.080 MGF was not beaten the title eliminator, but Adam Cole 0:19:39.160 --> 0:19:43.000 was not beaten either. So I would presume that that 0:19:43.240 --> 0:19:45.679 is what Adam Cole is going to talk about, and 0:19:45.720 --> 0:19:48.439 then it's going to be interesting to see if Punk 0:19:48.600 --> 0:19:51.280 continues to talk about MJF or if they drop that, 0:19:51.840 --> 0:19:54.560 because I don't think that the best thing for business 0:19:55.040 --> 0:19:58.120 is to be simultaneously hyping up both of these matches 0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:01.119 as whatever is coming next, because you don't want fans 0:20:01.160 --> 0:20:04.760 to choose one or the other and you know, booze 0:20:04.760 --> 0:20:07.360 somebody or want to see something or chant this or that. 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.440 So I think it'll be interesting to see the follow 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:13.160 up they do with Adam Cole, because clearly, I mean 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:16.080 when they did that show last week, the idea was 0:20:16.160 --> 0:20:18.439 not that this Adam Cole thing is over. If it 0:20:18.440 --> 0:20:20.960 were over, he'd have been beaten, you know, and so 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:23.280 the fact that he wasn't beaten that they did a 0:20:23.359 --> 0:20:26.560 time limit draw. I mean, that thing is clearly continuing. 0:20:27.080 --> 0:20:29.800 And my presumption is that since it's not taking place 0:20:29.840 --> 0:20:33.600 at Forbidden Door, that it's either going to be the 0:20:33.640 --> 0:20:36.640 match for Wembley or the match for. 0:20:38.119 --> 0:20:40.280 Chicago. The is it Chicago? 0:20:40.359 --> 0:20:42.600 Are we sure that all out is Chicago? 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:43.520 I think it is right. 0:20:44.600 --> 0:20:47.840 We know Wembley is all in, but my presumption is 0:20:47.840 --> 0:20:51.600 is Chicago's all out? I think that's confirmed, right, Nobody know. 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:54.439 I'm not one hundred percent sure no with that, but 0:20:54.640 --> 0:20:56.440 I tell you what, if you can, then you get 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:59.720 MJF working both shows, and then you can, if you 0:20:59.760 --> 0:21:02.600 want to, you can go in that direction and make 0:21:02.640 --> 0:21:05.399 it almost the three way thing if you if again, 0:21:05.440 --> 0:21:07.520 if you wanted to do that, because you could have 0:21:07.680 --> 0:21:10.680 MJF on that huge show in Wembley, which you know 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:14.280 he's going to be on defending against Adam Cole. Meanwhile, 0:21:14.320 --> 0:21:17.080 he's also got a match already set up against you 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:18.880 know where the winner of that has a match set 0:21:18.960 --> 0:21:22.520 up in Chicago against CM Punk who was the champion 0:21:22.560 --> 0:21:24.959 and had to give it up. And that's not something 0:21:25.000 --> 0:21:27.919 that they should run from. I'm not They should not 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:30.640 beat people over the head with it, especially if there's 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:34.280 no plan to do anything with it. But you know, 0:21:34.320 --> 0:21:36.720 it was brought up in the ESPAN articles, brought up 0:21:36.760 --> 0:21:39.440 everywhere when he left and tore the triceps off. He 0:21:39.640 --> 0:21:42.080 was the champion and there are people that are going 0:21:42.119 --> 0:21:45.480 to remember that, and it is a storyline that people 0:21:45.520 --> 0:21:48.200 are kind of waiting for down the line. So it's 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:51.359 something that should be on simmer in the background. But 0:21:51.480 --> 0:21:53.280 you know, it should not be on boil if they 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:56.240 don't from anybody's side, if that's not the direction that 0:21:56.280 --> 0:21:56.720 they're going. 0:21:58.240 --> 0:22:01.840 All right, we've got the Dumbe pay per view schedule 0:22:01.920 --> 0:22:04.960