1 00:00:00,920 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace the missing mom Manta just 2 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:10,120 Speaker 1: twenty eight. 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:12,600 Speaker 2: In the last hours, we learn. 4 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: About a pink stain according to police, on the carpet 5 00:00:18,160 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: in the home. We also learn invisible to the naked eye, 6 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: but discovered with luminol blood specs on the bathroom calking. 7 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: That bathtub now seized by police. I'm Nancy Grace, this 8 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,800 Speaker 1: is Crime Stories. Thank you for being with us. 9 00:00:39,600 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 3: Mamta is an incredibly dedicated person. Being a nurse was 10 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,239 Speaker 3: her absolute dream and she was completely committed to it. 11 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:53,559 Speaker 1: You don't become a nicku nurse without being a very, 12 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: very dedicated person. The gender reveal had already happened. They 13 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 1: knew they were having a baby girl. 14 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:02,959 Speaker 3: Nothing was going to stop her. 15 00:01:05,440 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: Where is Mamta? 16 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: In the last hour's disturbing evidence is being uncovered. 17 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: We learn not only has luminol. 18 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: Detective blood in the bathroom, the bathtub has been seized, 19 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:27,920 Speaker 1: also issues regarding blood traces in the master bedroom. Again, 20 00:01:27,959 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us in our search for Mamta. 21 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:33,800 Speaker 1: If you know or think you have evidence on her 22 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:38,400 Speaker 1: whereabouts tip line seven zero three three six one one 23 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:44,119 Speaker 1: one three six repeat seven zero three three six one one, one, three, six, 24 00:01:44,520 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: recall her entire family lives in Nepaul. 25 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 2: She's got nobody. The search for her was launched by 26 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: her friends at a baby shower. 27 00:01:56,960 --> 00:02:00,640 Speaker 1: They banded together to bring her case to the national 28 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 1: forefront and they have what does her husband have to say? 29 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: Let's start friends at WUSA. 30 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's been very terrible time. You know, like we 31 00:02:10,200 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 4: are just you know, like my baby and then myself, 32 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 4: we are just waiting minute and second, every minute and second, 33 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 4: just waiting like to get the you know, I don't know. 34 00:02:20,320 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 1: How to explain and more from our friends at WUSA. 35 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: Listen to Mamta's husband. 36 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:30,000 Speaker 4: Be like, you know, very good, like you know since 37 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,280 Speaker 4: like two months, you know, like before that, you know, 38 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 4: one time we have like some arguments because you know, yeah, yeah. 39 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: Now I'm very curious about one other, well many other 40 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,919 Speaker 1: statements made by her husband a reshpot. 41 00:02:46,200 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: But I want you to hear this from WUSA nine. 42 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 4: I'm the sufferer one. I'm the suffering my baby and 43 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 4: then myself, you know, like we are suffering the most. 44 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: She's the one missing. 45 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: I'm hearing about invisible to the naked eye, blood in 46 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: the bathtob blood and the caulking around the edges of 47 00:03:07,919 --> 00:03:14,320 Speaker 1: the bathtob blood traces in the bedroom, and he's suffering. 48 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 2: Can I hear that one more time? 49 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 1: This is Manta's husband speaking to WUSA nine. 50 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:22,680 Speaker 2: Listen, I'm the sofferer one. 51 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 4: I'm the soffering my baby and then myself. You know, 52 00:03:25,520 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 4: like we are suffering the most. 53 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: No, you're not. You are not suffering the most. 54 00:03:31,040 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: That's just the kind of statement I don't want to hear. 55 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: Joining me in All Star panel to makes sense of 56 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: what we know right now. But I've got to go 57 00:03:38,400 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: before I go to our investigative reporter, I've got to 58 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 1: go straight out to one of Mamta's dear friends, who 59 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:49,560 Speaker 1: actually brought this case to the forefront, who has been 60 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,440 Speaker 1: looking for mom to, who has been at her own 61 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: expense being out there making digital flyers, putting them out 62 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: speaking for my has created a go fund me to 63 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: help the organization of the search. With me is Nadia Navarro? 64 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: Did you hear the husband say, and I quote, I'm 65 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:17,719 Speaker 1: the suffering one. I'm suffering, we're suffering the most. 66 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 5: What I think? 67 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 3: He's a ridiculous man, truly, I think. 68 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: A lot more than that. Can you expound. 69 00:04:27,560 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 3: He just has no empathy and he's Tonda. 70 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:36,960 Speaker 1: Okay, you know what, I think that you are kind 71 00:04:37,400 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: and gracious. I'm not let me go straight out to 72 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: Adrian pacarel who is an acquaintance of the husband. 73 00:04:48,240 --> 00:04:51,600 Speaker 2: Mister Pacarell served fourteen. 74 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,760 Speaker 1: Years in the US Army, has been a congressional candidate, 75 00:04:55,520 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 1: and was an acquaintance with the husband. Not Esh, but 76 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: mister Parker, well, thank you for being with us. First 77 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: of all, you believe that you have been misconstrued in 78 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,039 Speaker 1: the press, and I want to get to that in 79 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: just one moment, But first I want to deal with. 80 00:05:15,279 --> 00:05:21,280 Speaker 2: The facts before us. His wife is missing, the mother 81 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:22,119 Speaker 2: of his child. 82 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 1: Did you have any idea this guy would come out 83 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: with a statement I'm the one suffering. 84 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:34,080 Speaker 6: First of all, thank you for having me this statement. 85 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 7: The guy pretty much if you asked me, I will 86 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:44,119 Speaker 7: call him as a psychopath completely. A lot of lies there, 87 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 7: a lot of lies. 88 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 6: He is lying again and again. Even the conversation he. 89 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 7: Was having with some of the veterans who decided to 90 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 7: step in to ensure the babies protect him. 91 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 8: We did not know the extreme he has gone, but 92 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,080 Speaker 8: we definitely had a doubt that he has something. 93 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 1: To do with it, because well, hold on, let me 94 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:09,719 Speaker 1: be very clear at mister Pocarel before you go any further. 95 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: When you have a friend or an acquaintance and you 96 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:18,960 Speaker 1: know them in routine life, you may have no idea 97 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 1: that they have a dark side. 98 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:24,600 Speaker 2: In fact, having prosecuted many many. 99 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: Violent felonies, more than I can even count, and worked 100 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:32,359 Speaker 1: at the batter Women's Center, one thing about batterers and abusers. 101 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 2: They can be very charming. And I've got Scott Peterson 102 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 2: on my mind. 103 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:37,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if you ever heard of him, but 104 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,720 Speaker 1: he was convicted the murder of his wife and unborn son. 105 00:06:41,680 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: Yet everybody that knows him, other than Lacey's family, think 106 00:06:46,680 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 1: he was very charming outgoing the life of the party 107 00:06:52,360 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: you would never suspect. So I'm very curious about this dichotomy. 108 00:07:00,680 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: How someone can be so charming and likable to his friends, 109 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: but then at home he is. 110 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:10,200 Speaker 2: A violent abuser. 111 00:07:10,240 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: And again, this guy mom to his husband Naresh Bot, 112 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: has not been convicted of anything, and under our jurisprudence, 113 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 1: he remains innocent until proven guilty if in fact he 114 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,840 Speaker 1: ever goes to Traumba. Back to what I'm asking to Adrian, Pacarel. 115 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 1: You stated that you believe he lied to a group 116 00:07:34,040 --> 00:07:36,600 Speaker 1: of veterans he was speaking to what was he saying? 117 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 8: The first question we all as there is do you 118 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 8: have anything to do with. 119 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:45,680 Speaker 6: Bus? 120 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 8: The other veteran asks the same thing, But I was 121 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 8: just watching and trying to listen to his answer because. 122 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 6: I told him, no, matter whatever it is, be honest, army. 123 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 6: We have you know, equals one of them. He is honest, 124 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 6: and I say, make sure you be honest whatever it is. 125 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 6: But he never answer that question, like if somebody. 126 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 8: Asked me about my spouse and has anything to do 127 00:08:12,480 --> 00:08:14,600 Speaker 8: with it, it must likely might presently be. 128 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 9: Are you out of your mind? What are you trying 129 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 9: to say? You know those kinds of things. But he 130 00:08:19,800 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 9: always say we haven't had any argument or since apric 131 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 9: four or five months. 132 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 6: He'd never say yes or no. And that was right 133 00:08:30,720 --> 00:08:35,560 Speaker 6: there the indication that I picked, okay, he has something 134 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 6: to do. 135 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 1: And joining me is a very dear friend of mom 136 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 1: tes Nadia Navarro, and a friend and acquaintance with the 137 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:46,440 Speaker 1: husband and a restpot. 138 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 2: So when you guys asked him, just be honest, did 139 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:52,560 Speaker 2: you have anything to do with it? He wouldn't say yes. 140 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: Or no. 141 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 6: I exactly never directly. 142 00:08:55,760 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: Asked him old on, I'm throwing this to Adrian, sorry, 143 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: Nadia agent. So the question is did he ever did 144 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:04,439 Speaker 1: He never say yes or no. 145 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 2: That's correct. 146 00:09:05,320 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 8: He would never say yes or no. He would always 147 00:09:08,040 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 8: say we haven't had fight or even simple argument for four. 148 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 6: Or five months. 149 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,800 Speaker 8: And that is really the first thing I picked on 150 00:09:17,840 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 8: the first time I met him in his house. 151 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 6: First time I went to his house with other veterans, 152 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 6: because before this event, I have probably met him about 153 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 6: two to three times during the US. 154 00:09:29,760 --> 00:09:32,079 Speaker 2: So he went into the home. When was that? 155 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 8: So I was notified on the stext by the empolice reporter. 156 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 6: Like I said, I knew him as a Nepali veteran, 157 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 6: Nepali American veteran. There's a group. 158 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 8: When I talked on the phone, I asked him because 159 00:09:48,559 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 8: I'm an it is the survivor, and I'm a. 160 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 6: Mental health advocat too, So I asked. 161 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,559 Speaker 8: Him if there's any bad talks in his head? He says, 162 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 8: a human you know here and there. 163 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 7: So I immediately wanted to sit down and talk to him and. 164 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:08,320 Speaker 6: To see his behavior and be able to the time. 165 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:14,240 Speaker 8: So from there my biggest focus. 166 00:10:12,360 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: So much ground to cover. 167 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: Let's switch off what we know of the husband's questionable 168 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: or curious behavior and talk about the evidence that we 169 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,720 Speaker 1: believe was found in the home. Joining me is not 170 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: a saint to bone, soou investigative reporter of Fox five, Nana, 171 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: thank you. 172 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: For being with us. 173 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: What's your understanding of what has been found inside mom 174 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: to his home? 175 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:38,280 Speaker 5: Hey, Nancy, thanks for having me. 176 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 10: So A lot of different things came out in the 177 00:10:40,840 --> 00:10:43,559 Speaker 10: court documents, but what we know for sure is that 178 00:10:43,600 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 10: there were some blood stains found somewhere near the master 179 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 10: bedroom and bathroom area. We also know that their bathtub 180 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 10: has been taking away for evidence. We were actually outside, 181 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 10: I believe it was Wensday when Prince William County Police 182 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:06,000 Speaker 10: and NASA's Park Police had the home taped off in 183 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 10: caution tape. Crime scene investigators going in and out with bags, 184 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,480 Speaker 10: paper bags, plastic bag, gloves, coming out of the house 185 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 10: with carpet and different items from inside the residence. 186 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,720 Speaker 5: But what we know for sure is that there was some. 187 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 10: Form of bloodstains found in the master bedroom and that bathroom. 188 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:29,600 Speaker 1: Joining me is non essential. Bones from Fox five also 189 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 1: with me. Brian Fitzgibbons, Director operations USPA Nationwide Security. 190 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 2: Brian, thank you so much for being with us. 191 00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 1: Have you analyzed the evidence that you were learning about 192 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: taken from the home and discovered in the home? 193 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,200 Speaker 11: Thank you for having me, me Nancy. In addition to that, 194 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 11: blood investigators found a tremendous amount of digital evidence and 195 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 11: that's going to be crucial in this case as they 196 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:02,280 Speaker 11: pieced together Noursh's active in the last days that they 197 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 11: were sure that Mamto was at that residence. 198 00:12:05,800 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 1: You know that's very cryptic, Brian Fitzgibbons, And we have 199 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: one hour to cover the evidence. Brian Fitzgibbons. When you 200 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: say there was a lot of digital evidence, let's. 201 00:12:14,320 --> 00:12:15,160 Speaker 2: Just break it down. 202 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: Are you referring to searches made on Google on Nushbot's computer, 203 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,560 Speaker 1: on his devices, such as how long to Mary after 204 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:28,960 Speaker 1: spouse dies? 205 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,120 Speaker 2: That search? That digital search? 206 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 1: Are you more concerned with what happened debt after spouse dies? 207 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: What happened debt after spouse dies? 208 00:12:43,760 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: Oh? How long to Mary after spouse dies? Those are the. 209 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:53,880 Speaker 1: Google searches among many others that we have just learned about. 210 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 2: Is that troubling to you? Is that the digital evidence? 211 00:12:57,520 --> 00:13:00,680 Speaker 2: Are you referring to the Ping p I n G evidence. 212 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 5: This is going to be everything, Nancy. 213 00:13:03,040 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 11: So you have the ping in Louden County, ten to 214 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 11: fifteen miles to the north as a potential disposal site, 215 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:14,280 Speaker 11: and you're dealing with these Google searches which resonate and 216 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,160 Speaker 11: sound quite a bit like the Brian Walsh case and 217 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:18,560 Speaker 11: Cohazart Massachusetts. 218 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: Guys, we are talking about the evidence found inside the home. 219 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: Brian Fitzgibbons has led us. 220 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:27,719 Speaker 1: To another prong of the evidence, and that is a 221 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 1: digital evidence. You know what I like about digital evidence 222 00:13:30,760 --> 00:13:35,480 Speaker 1: and blood evidence. It cannot be refuted. You might want 223 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,040 Speaker 1: to put a spin on it, but it cannot be refuted. 224 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:40,439 Speaker 2: Brian Fitzgibbons. 225 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 5: That's correct, Nancy. 226 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 11: There's going to be a we call it digital exhaust 227 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 11: from Nouresha's activities immediately following whatever happened with Mamta that 228 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 11: led to our disappearance. And it seems like investigators have 229 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 11: a mountain of this right now. 230 00:13:55,800 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 12: Discovering a pink stain on the carpet in the master bedroom, 231 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 12: investigators noticed what appears to be a blood trail leading 232 00:14:02,440 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 12: from the bedroom to the master bedroom's bathroom, using Blue 233 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:09,240 Speaker 12: Star technology in the bathroom. Detectives are shocked as the 234 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 12: entire bathroom floor is illuminated with what appears to be. 235 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 1: Blood crime stories With Nancy Gray. 236 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 13: The last time I spoke to her was July twenty eighth. 237 00:14:29,520 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 13: Got a call from a friend I met at Mamta's 238 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 13: baby shower. 239 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 10: According to her co workers, she did not show up 240 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,680 Speaker 10: for her shift on the first I. 241 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:43,080 Speaker 2: Thought that was impossible. She would never have missed a ship. 242 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 3: I mean, nobody knew that she was missing. 243 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 2: Her neighbors were not even aware. 244 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 3: Her next door neighbors had no idea. I wasn't going 245 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 3: to let that happen. 246 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,320 Speaker 2: Where is missing Mom? Mom? 247 00:14:56,720 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: Is she alive? Is there any chance she still alive? 248 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:02,680 Speaker 1: Listen to what we've learned. 249 00:15:02,760 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 14: Investigators looking for Mom to Abot arrive at her home 250 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 14: with search warrants and walking in the front door, are 251 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 14: shocked to see the home in disarray. It appears that 252 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 14: luggage has been packed and in plain view for all 253 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 14: to see passports for Mamta's husband, Naresh and their daughter Nima. 254 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 14: Officers inside the home use blue Star technology, a forensicate, 255 00:15:20,400 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 14: allowing criminal investigation technicians with a complete tool to reveal 256 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 14: the presence of invisible blood traces at a crime scene, 257 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 14: uncovering pools of blood and blood spatter in the home. 258 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 14: In the master bedroom, the bed is moved to obstruct 259 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 14: access to the closet. After moving the bed, detectives observe 260 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 14: a light pink stain on the carpet they suspect to 261 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 14: be blood. 262 00:15:39,280 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: Straight out to Brian Fitzgibbons, joining US Director Operations usp 263 00:15:43,920 --> 00:15:48,760 Speaker 1: A Nationwide Security Brian Antel, all of our guests, thank 264 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: you for being with us, and to Nadia Navarro who 265 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 1: is a very dear friend of Mamta's. 266 00:15:55,280 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: I know this evidence must. 267 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: Be overwhelming to you to hear about bloodstains and potential 268 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: pools of blood and peeing evidence and it just. 269 00:16:04,600 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 2: Goes on and on. Is there a chance mom to 270 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 2: is alive? 271 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: Brian, if you could explain blue Star technology. 272 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 11: Blue Star technology, Nancy, is very similar to luminol, and 273 00:16:20,040 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 11: this is one of the most effective new blood reagents 274 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 11: in the markets used by crime scene and texts. That's 275 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:31,560 Speaker 11: going to have very high sensitivity to detect traces of 276 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 11: blood that would be not seen by the naked eye. 277 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: You know, I'm very curious. One thing that is disturbing. 278 00:16:40,040 --> 00:16:46,880 Speaker 1: Amongst the many is the potential cleanup, because in a bathroom, 279 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 1: it could be argued you would expect to find whoever 280 00:16:50,880 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: lived there, You may expect to find some of their blood, 281 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: but when it's been cleaned up, or when there is 282 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: a great deal of blood. For instance, in the case 283 00:17:03,280 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 1: of Jennifer Dulo's missing mom of five out of Connecticut, 284 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: there was a vast quantity of blood in her garage 285 00:17:13,400 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: of blood elsewhere in her home. She and her husband 286 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,280 Speaker 1: were separated at that time. Based on the amount of 287 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 1: blood that was found in her garage, it was easily 288 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:24,240 Speaker 1: deduced that wherever. 289 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,800 Speaker 2: She was, she was no longer alive. 290 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:31,200 Speaker 1: To say to bone See joining us from Fox five, 291 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 1: a lot of items were taken from the home. 292 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: We know in particular, police are. 293 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: Looking at the bathtub and the bedroom carpet. 294 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:42,680 Speaker 2: What can you tell us about items removed from the 295 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 2: home right now. 296 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 10: We've asked about these items that were pulls out of 297 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 10: their home, and police, like they've been doing for the 298 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:52,640 Speaker 10: past couple of weeks, aren't sharing too much information with us. 299 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 10: But what we gathered is that this is all evidence 300 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,320 Speaker 10: that will be used in this investigation. 301 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:00,280 Speaker 5: But while we were at the house. 302 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 10: We also saw that police spend a lot of time 303 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 10: in the garage. They actually took some cardboard papers to 304 00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 10: cover the windows so that the news crews outside couldn't 305 00:18:11,520 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 10: see what was. 306 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,359 Speaker 5: Going on in this garage. 307 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:17,439 Speaker 10: So, in addition to this bathtub and the carpets that 308 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:19,960 Speaker 10: they removed from the house, we know that they were 309 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:22,240 Speaker 10: focusing in this garage area. 310 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 5: What exactly was going on, we don't know. But it's 311 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 5: also important to note that court. 312 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 10: Documents showed as well as neighbors informed us that Naresh 313 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:36,080 Speaker 10: sold his tesla not too long before police showed up 314 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 10: to the house with that search warrant. 315 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 2: Not essen to you, Bonci, You're absolutely correct. Listen. 316 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,639 Speaker 12: On August nineteenth, Narisch Bot sells his tesla and friends 317 00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 12: say he inquires about selling his house as well. When 318 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,800 Speaker 12: investigators arrived to serve the search warrant, detectives find what 319 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 12: can only be described as a chaotic scene. The home 320 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:57,919 Speaker 12: appears packed with a suitcase and passports for both Bot 321 00:18:57,920 --> 00:19:02,239 Speaker 12: and his daughter. Visible police speak to two individuals who 322 00:19:02,280 --> 00:19:05,520 Speaker 12: claim to reach Bot discusses selling his home. The same 323 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 12: day he sold his tesla. 324 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:10,359 Speaker 1: To Angela Arnold, joining us renowned psychiatrist out of the 325 00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:13,800 Speaker 1: Atlanta jurisdiction. You can find her an Angela Arnold MD 326 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 1: dot com. Her specialty is dealing with women, doctor Angie. 327 00:19:18,760 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us, Doctor Angie. All of 328 00:19:22,119 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: that seems ominous, very ominous in light of the fact 329 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:30,840 Speaker 1: that no one can find Mamta, that the passports were there, 330 00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:32,920 Speaker 1: the suitcases were packed. 331 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 2: What would you say, doctor Angela Arnold? 332 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: Is the single most dangerous time for a woman that 333 00:19:39,359 --> 00:19:40,480 Speaker 1: has been abused. 334 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 15: Unfortunately, Nancy, the single most dangerous time for a woman 335 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 15: is the top from the time they get pregnant until 336 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 15: one year postpartum. That is, homicide and suicide account for 337 00:19:56,640 --> 00:20:01,120 Speaker 15: more deaths of a woman that is pregnant to one 338 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,639 Speaker 15: year postpartum than any medical complication that the woman could 339 00:20:05,640 --> 00:20:09,520 Speaker 15: have during that time. And I want women to know 340 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 15: that homicide and suicide are the number one way that 341 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 15: a woman in that time does. 342 00:20:16,320 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: Joining me is Nadia Navarro, friend of Mamta's and who 343 00:20:19,880 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: has engineered the GoFundMe. 344 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:26,560 Speaker 2: She organized that. Nadia. Did do you ever speak with 345 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,440 Speaker 2: the husband? Naresh? 346 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:29,359 Speaker 5: Yes, I did. 347 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:30,879 Speaker 2: Could you describe what happened? 348 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 3: Well, it was at the baby's birthday party, and there 349 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 3: were a lot of people there. Nobody wanted me to 350 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:42,440 Speaker 3: be alone with him. He said that he needed to 351 00:20:42,440 --> 00:20:44,840 Speaker 3: speak to me privately, and he asked to speak to 352 00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 3: me alone, and I said later, but I didn't stick around. 353 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 3: I left early and he said he would call me. 354 00:20:53,560 --> 00:20:58,159 Speaker 1: So, Nadia Navarro, when you were at the baby's birthday party? 355 00:20:58,200 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 2: It was the first birthday parties? Correct? 356 00:21:01,800 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 1: Yes, which is doctor Angie curious because it dovetails with 357 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: what you just told us. Mom's baby girl had just 358 00:21:09,960 --> 00:21:13,960 Speaker 1: turned one. Why is it that no one wanted you 359 00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:17,440 Speaker 1: to be alone with not ash Bought. 360 00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 3: Because everyone was suspicious of him. 361 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:23,679 Speaker 1: What about an incident where you took Mamta to the 362 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 1: you were trying to take her to the spy store. 363 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 3: He called me multiple times that day and he demanded 364 00:21:32,800 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: that I turned back and I basically said no, and 365 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 3: he was shocked and angry, and he screamed at me. 366 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,280 Speaker 2: What exactly did he say it was in? 367 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 3: He started screaming and Nepoli. 368 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:45,840 Speaker 2: Did you know what he was saying? No? 369 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 3: I had no idea. 370 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 1: What was Mamta's reaction with him screaming into the phone. 371 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 3: She got really quiet and she apologized. 372 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 2: I find that very curious. 373 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 1: Okay, the part that the part of what he said 374 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: that was not a NPOLLI What was he saying in 375 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 1: English that you could understand? 376 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 3: He was like what, I guess no one had really 377 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,760 Speaker 3: or maybe a woman hadn't said no to him before. 378 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:12,760 Speaker 2: What was he saying? 379 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 3: Well, he was demanding that I turn around, and I'm 380 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,440 Speaker 3: my own person in my own car. I'm a grown woman, 381 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:24,760 Speaker 3: and I said no, We're just going to the spice store. 382 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,200 Speaker 3: I don't want to turn around. 383 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 1: Doctor Angel Arnold joining me, renowned psychiatrist, you just told 384 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: me that the most dangerous time for a woman in 385 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:38,879 Speaker 1: an abusive home is I think you said, leading up 386 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:42,120 Speaker 1: to pregnancy and up to one year after giving birth. 387 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 1: I find that extraordinarily curious and possibly probative. 388 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: That the baby was just turning one when mom ticket disappears. 389 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 15: It's horrible, you know, Nancy. What I'm wondering is what 390 00:22:59,200 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 15: was happening in that home leading up to this. I 391 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 15: am so curious about that. There are so many things 392 00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 15: that seem to be left unsaid right now. How did 393 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 15: he treat her during the pregnancy, how did he treat 394 00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:15,240 Speaker 15: her soon after the birth, and what in the world 395 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:18,560 Speaker 15: let up to this, right before the baby turned one 396 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 15: year old. 397 00:23:19,680 --> 00:23:22,040 Speaker 2: Those are the questions that I'm wondering about right now. 398 00:23:22,720 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 5: That's a question we've all been asking. Why did it 399 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 5: take so long? 400 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: She's now been away from her baby girl for quite 401 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:30,760 Speaker 1: some time. 402 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 2: So this is a very concerning case. 403 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 11: Every day that goes by there's a baby that doesn't 404 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,480 Speaker 11: know where a mother is. The chances of her coming 405 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 11: home alive go down with every hour that passes. 406 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:43,400 Speaker 6: And I have. 407 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 10: Really bad feelings for this mother because I don't believe 408 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 10: she's alive at this moment. 409 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: We are learning evidence fast and furious. For one thing, 410 00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:59,880 Speaker 1: we're learning about those I say probatives, which. 411 00:23:59,680 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 2: Means prove something. Other people may just call it curious. 412 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 1: Google searches performed by the husband na Esh Bot for instance, 413 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:14,800 Speaker 1: how long to Mary after spouse dies? Also what happened 414 00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 1: Debt d e b brother T What happened Debt after 415 00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:20,879 Speaker 1: spouse dies. 416 00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:24,360 Speaker 2: We are also learning. 417 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: That mom's mother has just been granted an emergency visa 418 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:33,320 Speaker 1: and families trying to get her from Nepal. Here on 419 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:37,439 Speaker 1: the scene. I'm also curious right now about what was 420 00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: seen inside the home to not as sent to bones 421 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,640 Speaker 1: who joining us from Fox five. I'm gonna circle back 422 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:47,720 Speaker 1: to you, Brian Fitzgibbons regarding digital data, phone. 423 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:54,080 Speaker 2: Data, but not what more do we know about. 424 00:24:54,560 --> 00:25:00,639 Speaker 1: Searches of the computers, searches of phones, and searches the home. 425 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 2: I understand what police arrived at the home. 426 00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 1: It's the very chaotic same bags were packed, passports were out. 427 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 5: What do you know, yes, exactly, Nancy. 428 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,720 Speaker 10: There was a lot going on in the house and 429 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 10: it looked like someone who was ready to leave, to 430 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 10: leave his home and to possibly leave the country, because 431 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 10: we understand that there were passports. 432 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 5: For him and his one year old daughter, Nima. 433 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 10: But we're also learning recently that in court documents that 434 00:25:27,200 --> 00:25:32,720 Speaker 10: there were a number of searches in his phone as well. 435 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,160 Speaker 5: That's that digital evidence. 436 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:37,000 Speaker 10: And you know, one of the biggest concerns is that 437 00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,200 Speaker 10: Google search about what happens to what appears to be debt, 438 00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,639 Speaker 10: financial debt if your spouse dies. 439 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:45,280 Speaker 5: So all of. 440 00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 10: These things are now coming out, and I only believe 441 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 10: we're going to continue to hear more from prosecutors. 442 00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:55,080 Speaker 5: And again that presence that was outside the house, we 443 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:56,600 Speaker 5: know there has to be more. 444 00:25:56,640 --> 00:25:59,359 Speaker 10: It can't just be a couple of rugs that we 445 00:25:59,440 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 10: saw in the bathtub that was collected. I'm interested to 446 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 10: see what exactly police and the prosecutors. 447 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 5: Will continue to share with us when it comes to evidence. 448 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:12,359 Speaker 10: But we also heard going back to the digital really quickly, 449 00:26:12,440 --> 00:26:15,520 Speaker 10: that there was a trip to a nearby store or 450 00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:18,800 Speaker 10: grocery store for cleaning supplies and knives and those kinds 451 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:20,920 Speaker 10: of things. So this is just part of the evidence 452 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,200 Speaker 10: that we're going to continue to learn more about as 453 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 10: this case continues to go on. But the most recent 454 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 10: things that we're hearing about are those Google searches, what 455 00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,720 Speaker 10: happens to financial debt if your spouts dies. 456 00:26:33,359 --> 00:26:36,040 Speaker 1: I'm very curious about the bathtub being taken out that 457 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 1: most recently occurred in famous cases and the rex Hueman 458 00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 1: Long Island serial killer cases. Bathtub, the entire bathroom was 459 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: totally dismantled. Sometimes difficult to get evidence out of a 460 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 1: bathtub drain or a sink drain, but it can be 461 00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:02,440 Speaker 1: done if it's done in time. We're going to learn 462 00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: a lot about that blood evidence, and we know that 463 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: the blue Star kit was used, illuminol search was done. 464 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:13,600 Speaker 1: We understand that a bed in the master bedroom was 465 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 1: moved and when the bed was moved, it revealed blood 466 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: evidence that leads me to say, what you're redecorating, you 467 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: spring cleaning? You just feel like moving your bed suddenly. 468 00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: Have you ever noticed how husbands certainly suddenly turned neat 469 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,439 Speaker 1: nicks when their wives go missing, and they're mopping and 470 00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: they're using detergent, they're doing the laundry, they're moving the 471 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: bed around and coincidentally blood under the bed. 472 00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:44,680 Speaker 2: Curious. 473 00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: I also want to circle back to Nadia Navarro. We've 474 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,919 Speaker 1: got a lot to cover. We're going in all different 475 00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:55,119 Speaker 1: directions to Nadia Navarro, friend of mam To's. You stated 476 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 1: that at a birthday party for baby Nima, who turned 477 00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,440 Speaker 1: one year old, baby girl. 478 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 2: That no one wanted you to speak to the husband alone. 479 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,880 Speaker 2: No mom wanted you to be alone with. 480 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:14,040 Speaker 1: The husband, not Ashpot because they were suspicious. Let me 481 00:28:14,119 --> 00:28:18,440 Speaker 1: understand the time frame here. Baby Nima turned one before 482 00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: or after mom to disappears after Aha, No wonder the 483 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:28,879 Speaker 1: suspicion next who through the birthday party? 484 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,440 Speaker 3: It was my idea. I wanted to see the baby, 485 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:38,280 Speaker 3: and I've been avoiding contacting Nurash And he did ask me, 486 00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 3: why haven't you called me? Why haven't you checked in 487 00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:44,320 Speaker 3: on me when we got to the birthday party. 488 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 2: I'm very curious. 489 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: So he did not consider having a one year birthday 490 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:50,840 Speaker 1: party for the baby. 491 00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,840 Speaker 3: No, people begged him on my behalf. They were like, 492 00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 3: she really, she really wants to have one, and it's 493 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 3: also good for the baby because mama would have wanted 494 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 3: a party for her. And he finally relented because we said, 495 00:29:03,160 --> 00:29:05,280 Speaker 3: it's not about it's not about you, It's about the 496 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,080 Speaker 3: baby and the people that want to celebrate with the baby. 497 00:29:08,240 --> 00:29:13,400 Speaker 1: Dadian Navarro, what was the husband notish bought behavior? His 498 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 1: demeanor at the birthday party? 499 00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 3: Oh my, it was the strangest I have ever seen him. 500 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:24,280 Speaker 3: He was completely different, and his eyes had like a 501 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 3: frantic energy about them, just the way they would flip 502 00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 3: back and forth, and he would constantly like look up 503 00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 3: at me to see if I was looking at him, 504 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:36,719 Speaker 3: which I was, I was staring, I was, I was 505 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 3: watching how different he was. He kept randomly disappearing from 506 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 3: the party as well. When we were on the on 507 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 3: the deck, he would take the baby and go downstairs 508 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 3: anytime the baby started to cry, which was often, and 509 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 3: then he'd come back up and we didn't know why 510 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 3: he went down and nobody followed him down. But when 511 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,800 Speaker 3: he did go down, every time the baby would stop crying. 512 00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: Guys, I want to talk about very quickly, hard evidence, 513 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: hard evidence. 514 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:04,600 Speaker 2: Listen. 515 00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 14: Nareshbot makes inconsistent statements to police when they arrive at 516 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 14: the home to conduct a welfare check on his wife, 517 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 14: Momta on August first, Narshe tells police his wife isn't 518 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,880 Speaker 14: home because she's visiting family in Texas or New York, 519 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,240 Speaker 14: and refuses to file a missing person report. On August sixth, 520 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 14: the Investigators saying Nareshbod contacts the police to report his 521 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 14: wife missing, stating she's been visiting family and was last 522 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 14: seen in the early hours of July thirty first. He 523 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 14: later changes his story, saying he last saw her in 524 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 14: the early hours of August first. When asked about mom 525 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 14: toa Bod's cell phone, Naresh claims, MoMA destroyed her phone 526 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:37,440 Speaker 14: before she went missing. 527 00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: Destroyed her cell phone. That's a new one on me. 528 00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 1: So his statement to police Brian Fisgibbons is that Mamta 529 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: destroyed her cell phone before she went away. 530 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,280 Speaker 5: That's unbelievable. 531 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,280 Speaker 11: Nancy and the police are going to be able to 532 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,280 Speaker 11: get a tremendous amount of data even off of Mamta's 533 00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 11: phone if Naresh destroyed it. At this point, given the 534 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 11: physical evidence, they're going to be able to get Mourns 535 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:07,480 Speaker 11: to expand that digital surgeon. 536 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 1: Well Crime Stores with Nancy Grace, we have learned more 537 00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: about the hard evidence, and I'm referring to digital evidence. 538 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 1: Regardless of what husband and father Naresh Bat may say 539 00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: about his wife Manta destroying her cell phone before she goes. 540 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 14: Missing it pinged listen, police knowe that Mamta's phone is 541 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 14: not destroyed, as the phone continues to receive data until 542 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:47,160 Speaker 14: July twenty ninth, after which all calls went to voicemail. 543 00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 14: By August first, the investigators say the phone has completely died. 544 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 14: The last known location of her phone was in Louden County, Virginia. 545 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 14: Naresh claims he was at a cafe in Louden County 546 00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 14: and provides proof which coincides with the area where MoMA's 547 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 14: phone pinged the cell tower after she vanished. 548 00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:09,680 Speaker 16: Nareshbot is seen on surveillance footage inside the Chantilly, Virginia 549 00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:12,880 Speaker 16: walmart as he buys a three pack of knives. On 550 00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,600 Speaker 16: July thirty, Investigators look for the knives. As they serve 551 00:32:16,680 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 16: the search warrant on the bought residents, they find one 552 00:32:19,840 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 16: of the knives. Two knives are still missing. One day 553 00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 16: after buying the knives, Nareshbot goes to the Walmart in 554 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,040 Speaker 16: Louden and buys cleaning supplies. 555 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: Straight out to sant To Bonsou joining us from Fox five, 556 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:38,640 Speaker 1: I assume that the surveillance video within that store at 557 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 1: the Walmart and the one in Chantilli where he's buying 558 00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: cleaning supplies and knives respectively, has been curated, has been 559 00:32:48,400 --> 00:32:49,520 Speaker 1: obtained by police. 560 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 10: Yes, that's what we're gathering that they use this surveillance 561 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 10: footage to recognize that these are the things he purchased 562 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 10: on or around the thirtieth, too far away from the 563 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 10: day that they say he possibly murdered his wife. So 564 00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,120 Speaker 10: we're learning that, you know, as reporters, you were asking 565 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 10: a lot of questions, what is going on? Why aren't 566 00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 10: you guys searching? But it seems like you know, they 567 00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 10: were onto something. They were just waiting to get their 568 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 10: hands on some of that surveillance video that we just discussed. 569 00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:25,239 Speaker 1: I hope that they have preserved the trash outside of 570 00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: his home. Also, we're learning about the surveillance footage inside 571 00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: the Chantille Walmart, and then he goes to another Walmart 572 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,600 Speaker 1: in Louden to make further purchases. Interesting why did he 573 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: go to one not as close to his home, but 574 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:48,000 Speaker 1: also during all this time at backtrack, he just buys 575 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: a set of three knives, and all of a sudden, 576 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:56,240 Speaker 1: literally within hours, two of the knives are missing. And 577 00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: that said, he is acting like everything's normal. Listen, this 578 00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: is from our friends at WUSA nine. 579 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:06,760 Speaker 4: We don't have any type of that. 580 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:07,120 Speaker 8: You know. 581 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,319 Speaker 4: It was like a normal day, like other regular days, 582 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 4: just you know, like you know, we were taking care 583 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 4: of our babies. 584 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:16,839 Speaker 2: It was like a very normal, a normal day. 585 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: According to him, his wife is missing and she destroyed 586 00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 1: her cell phone before she took off. 587 00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 2: That's not normal. Take us too more. And what she 588 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: has demeanor? This is from our friends at WUSA nine. 589 00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,640 Speaker 4: Oh, you know, like she wasn't a fear at her 590 00:34:32,680 --> 00:34:34,840 Speaker 4: work and then she is very like you no, pocused 591 00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:36,759 Speaker 4: on her work. And then once we know like no 592 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,439 Speaker 4: she's not at work, then you know, like that makes 593 00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:40,399 Speaker 4: very decitious to me. 594 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:44,320 Speaker 1: And so serious you had not reported her missing. Okay, 595 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: there's more. 596 00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 14: Listen in the master bathroom, Investigators carefully remove the bathtub 597 00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:53,279 Speaker 14: and visible to the naked eye, detectives confirm what they 598 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 14: believe to be blood not just around the tub area, 599 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,960 Speaker 14: but blood appears to be stuck in the calking. Investigators 600 00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,240 Speaker 14: believe in the rush by kills his wife and drags 601 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:03,760 Speaker 14: her body, creating a blood trail, and conceals the body 602 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,200 Speaker 14: in a place that is yet to be located. Even 603 00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:09,240 Speaker 14: though they haven't found a body, Investigators believe the amount 604 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,000 Speaker 14: of blood detected in the master bedroom and bathroom is 605 00:35:12,040 --> 00:35:15,279 Speaker 14: inconsistent with life. Naresh Bot is charged with murdering his 606 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 14: wife and concealing her body. 607 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:22,600 Speaker 1: With us as Adrian Pakarell, who knows the husband not Ishbach, 608 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: Adrian fourteen years in the US Army, a former congressional candidate. Adrian, 609 00:35:28,880 --> 00:35:31,279 Speaker 1: thank you for being with us. What went through your 610 00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,000 Speaker 1: mind when you learn not is ish Bat has been 611 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 1: suspected in murder and has actually been charged as it 612 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 1: relates to getting rid of a body or destroying evans, It. 613 00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:47,319 Speaker 6: Was stocking and shaking at the same time. 614 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 8: Because we are a small team, we decided to make 615 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 8: sure his behavior and nothing happens to Nima. 616 00:35:55,719 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 6: We put the uniform to serve our protect our nation, 617 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:09,359 Speaker 6: protect the people, and the thing I was very, very 618 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:13,960 Speaker 6: very disturbing to me. It was very disturbed, and I 619 00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 6: was upset. 620 00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 7: I was an angler and every single way frustrated and 621 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:20,200 Speaker 7: many many things. 622 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,320 Speaker 6: I can't really describe that. 623 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:26,760 Speaker 1: In the last hours, there has been a preliminary hearing 624 00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:30,480 Speaker 1: of sorts. It was very brief and lasted a little 625 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: under an hour. Joining me right now, Nana saying to 626 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: bone suit with Fox five, what have we learned after 627 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:39,880 Speaker 1: the hearing? 628 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:40,760 Speaker 5: Yes, Nancy. 629 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 10: So this morning it was a bond hearing for Naresh 630 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:46,800 Speaker 10: bod It's important to note that. 631 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 5: He is actually in costody for concealment. 632 00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 10: Of a body, but police still do not have Mamta's body, 633 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 10: so his charge is for concealing a dead body. For 634 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 10: his bond hearing, obviously, it's when the judge will decide 635 00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 10: will we let him out on bond or we're going 636 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,839 Speaker 10: to keep him in. The decision was we are going 637 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,400 Speaker 10: to keep him inside with no bond. Now, I do 638 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 10: have a colleague who was in that courtroom and she 639 00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 10: did say, for a second, people got nervous because the 640 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:20,839 Speaker 10: defense said, well, the prosecution or the state doesn't have 641 00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,799 Speaker 10: a body, So why is he in jail or why 642 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 10: is he in custody for concealment of a dead body? 643 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 10: But obviously the judge still said not strong enough, so 644 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 10: we're going to keep him in custody. So Narashvet still 645 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 10: inside a detention center with no bond. And again that 646 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,600 Speaker 10: charge is for concealment of a dead body. Still searching 647 00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:46,799 Speaker 10: for where Manta is her remains or whatever the case 648 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 10: may be. 649 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 1: To Nadia Navarro, a very dear friend of missing mom Mamta, Nadia, 650 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 1: I want to hear your reaction when you learned not 651 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: each bat had been arrested, not for murder, but for 652 00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: transport and concealing or altering a dead body. 653 00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:12,040 Speaker 3: I screamed, I have him to be in public. So 654 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:16,720 Speaker 3: I had to go into the police station and I 655 00:38:16,760 --> 00:38:21,240 Speaker 3: went to the bathroom and I sat down and screamed. 656 00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 2: What are your thoughts at this juncture? 657 00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 3: I no longer think she's with us, and I'm horrified 658 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:31,520 Speaker 3: and in pain, and. 659 00:38:32,520 --> 00:38:34,520 Speaker 2: I'm so angry to you. 660 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: Brian Fitzgibbons joining US Director Operations, USPA Nationwide Security. 661 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 2: What will it take for a murder charge? 662 00:38:45,640 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 11: Nancy? There's amount of evidence that investigators have already collected. 663 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 11: Now at this juncture, you got to be thinking that 664 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:57,520 Speaker 11: somebody could come forward, somebody close to Nuresh could come 665 00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 11: forward with information. There's going to be more digital evidence 666 00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,920 Speaker 11: being uncovered here as warrants are produced in this case. 667 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:12,280 Speaker 1: There have been many other cases where husband's typically sometimes wives, 668 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 1: begged for the return of their spouse. Does the name 669 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,560 Speaker 1: Chris Watts ring a bell or maybe Shannan listen. 670 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 3: Bella Celeste, if you're out there, just. 671 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 10: Just come back, like if somebody has her, please bring 672 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:28,120 Speaker 10: her back. 673 00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,239 Speaker 3: I need to see everybody. I need to see everybody again. 674 00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 5: This house is not complete without anybody here. 675 00:39:35,640 --> 00:39:35,839 Speaker 10: Back. 676 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: That's where my friends said k mgh Denver seven. Chris 677 00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:44,400 Speaker 1: Watts later convicted in the murder of not only his wife, 678 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:47,240 Speaker 1: but his two little girls. 679 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:54,120 Speaker 2: In this case, baby Nima is safe. Baby Nima is safe. 680 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,480 Speaker 2: Praise the Lord for that. 681 00:39:58,760 --> 00:40:03,360 Speaker 1: We have been told by a reliable source that baby 682 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: Niema is with friends of mom Mamta. But but as 683 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: we go to air tonight, where is Mamta? 684 00:40:17,960 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 2: We wait as justice unfolds. Nancy Grace signing off, goodbye 685 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:23,839 Speaker 2: friend