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Speaker 1: Time for kissing them. Second date update. So this is

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Speaker 1: Katherine reaches out and she's like, hey, listen, I went

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Speaker 1: situation Tony when you were dating you know, if it

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Speaker 1: I got all dressed up by uber because I thought

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Speaker 1: it was like a work because this conversation. The other day,

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Speaker 1: day she's having what's also new January? Maybe you know

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Speaker 1: So anyway, Katherine is on the line with us. Now, Katherine,

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Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. So why what's confusing about this?

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Speaker 1: Why do you think it could not be a date? Well,

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Speaker 1: it's complicated because of our history a little bit. So

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Speaker 1: he is. Um So, my sister is two years older

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Speaker 1: So I actually the other day I was scrolling on

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Speaker 1: like his profile and we ended up matching, which was incredible,

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Speaker 1: and he messaged me saying, well, I guess this is

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Speaker 1: if you say very cutely, this is our excuse to

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Speaker 1: what can I get some relationship advice from you? Exactly,

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Speaker 1: with Ryan Seacrest. On Air with Ryan Seacrest, second date,

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Speaker 1: up date. We've got Mike on the line, this guy

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Speaker 1: How you doing I'm good? How are you doing well? Thanks? So, Mike,

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Speaker 1: Catherine is listening now, Mike, Mike, why don't you just

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Speaker 1: Because it's like we've all had these, like countless amount

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