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Speaker 1: It is a football Friday, Week fifteen edition, The Cardinals

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Speaker 1: Need a Win Edition. Welcome Bird Gang. On today's show,

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Speaker 1: Zach Ershman joins me, it's been too long, too long

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Speaker 1: since the Cardinals last won a football game. Great opportunity though.

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Speaker 1: Coming up on Sunday, we look ahead of the matchup

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Speaker 1: against the New England Patriots. Part of our preview, we

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Speaker 1: speak with Mike Reeese from ESPN longtime Patriots beat Ryder.

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Speaker 1: It's Cardinals Cover two, Episode eight thirty one, and it

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Speaker 1: starts now.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to Cardinals Cover two.

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Speaker 3: Pud to Baker, What Heart? What rent?

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Speaker 1: This guy's unbelievable.

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Speaker 3: He's at the ten half of five. He's it again.

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Speaker 3: Some more hurry magic.

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Speaker 2: WHOA, here's Craig Griller.

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Speaker 1: So before we begin talking about the Cardinals match up

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Speaker 1: here in week fifteen, I think we do need to

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Speaker 1: discuss what happened to begin week fifteen. And Zach, what

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Speaker 1: what's the opposite of a shout out?

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Speaker 3: A shout out?

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Speaker 1: What is the opposite of a shout out, Like, if

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Speaker 1: you're gonna go positive, you're gonna give someone a shout out,

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Speaker 1: you know, give them credit. What's the opposite, because that's

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Speaker 1: what I want to do right now.

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Speaker 3: Destroy, embarrass, make fun of.

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Speaker 1: Okay, there we go. How about how about now I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna make fun of that can come back and haunt

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals later on. Whatever the opposite of a shout

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Speaker 1: out is is what the forty nine ers did last

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Speaker 1: night to the Arizona Cardin how about you.

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Speaker 3: It's still a shout out, It's just not a.

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Speaker 1: Negative shout out, okay, that positive negative? Okay, well.

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Speaker 3: Not positive shout out because then you still have the

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Speaker 3: word positive in there.

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Speaker 4: Okay.

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Speaker 1: The forty nine ers did the Cardinals no favorite nope,

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Speaker 1: none whatsoever. Catch the football, score a touchdown, It was

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Speaker 1: all field goals.

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Speaker 3: If you love punters, this is the game for you.

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Speaker 1: Rams beat the forty nine ers in Santa Clair twelve

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Speaker 1: to six in the rain. And why say the forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers did the Cardinals no favors Because we're at

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Speaker 1: that point, based off of last week's performance against the Seahawks,

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Speaker 1: act that the Cardinals need help. And it would have

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Speaker 1: been beneficial if the Rams had won, because part of

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Speaker 1: the tie breaking process not only is it head to head,

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Speaker 1: but it is division record. And right now the Rams

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Speaker 1: have three wins in the division and the Cardinals right

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Speaker 1: now have two wins with two games still coming up

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Speaker 1: against division opponents. So again we're looking way ahead on this.

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Speaker 1: But when you don't take care of your own business

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Speaker 1: now all of a sudden, you need others to do

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Speaker 1: their part to help you out. Scoreboard watching across the league.

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Speaker 1: It's what the Cardinals are going to be doing, and

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Speaker 1: at least the Cardinals beat reporters are going to be

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Speaker 1: doing base over the next four weeks because with what

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Speaker 1: you're talking about there, Craig, when you lost the game

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Speaker 1: against the Seattle Seahawks, you lost the ability to control

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Speaker 1: your destiny for the remainder of the season. So you're

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Speaker 1: going to need to be putting on an opposing team's

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Speaker 1: cap here and there to root for a just a

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Speaker 1: one point win in some cases, whatever it takes, so

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Speaker 1: that your Cardinals could start to gain some ground in

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Speaker 1: the NFC West standings. We know about the unlikelihood of

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Speaker 1: receiving a playoff spot through a wild card position, so

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Speaker 1: it really comes down to the NFC West, and it's

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Speaker 1: what makes every game that much more important, not just

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Speaker 1: the four games that the Cardinals play, but throughout the

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Speaker 1: division as well. Packers, excuse me the Packers. I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at what the Seahawks have next. So the Seahawks play.

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Speaker 1: They host the Packers on Sunday, Seahawks at eight and five.

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Speaker 1: The Rams with their win, they are now eight and six,

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Speaker 1: By the way, the Rams, if they went out they

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Speaker 1: Rams team is very much alive. Cardinals six and seven

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Speaker 3: Which proves that any given Sunday is not just an expression,

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Speaker 3: that's ultimately what ends up happening. Injuries are unpredictable. The

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Speaker 3: Same with Dennis Gardeck. It's the unfortunate parts of injuries. However,

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Speaker 1: You brought up any given Sunday, which is a great

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Speaker 1: on Sunday at State Farm Stadium, they host the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Two twenty five is the kickoff nine to thirty. Pre

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Speaker 1: game coverage begins on the Arizona Cardinals Radio Network, a

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Speaker 1: And again on paper, games not played on paper. We

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Speaker 3: Well, so are the games against the Seattle Seahawks. That

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Speaker 1: Half of the Patriots losses have come on one possession games,

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Speaker 1: For fans media like, you can look at numbers and stats,

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Speaker 3: Look you look at the Cardinals seven losses this season.

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Speaker 3: And as I said, the Detroit Lions could be in

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Speaker 1: Half of the Cardinals wins have come on one possession

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Speaker 1: of that long time Patriots reporter for ESPN, Mike Reese.

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Speaker 1: There is no one who does it better as far

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Speaker 1: here in the azy. So how would you describe year

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Speaker 4: You probably not much different from twenty nineteen with the Cardinals, right,

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Speaker 4: top pick, and that's what the that's the big storyline

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Speaker 4: of his rookie season, but then he suffered a season

437
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Speaker 4: ending shoulder injury torn labor them. So he only played

438
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Speaker 4: four games as a rookie so to durable and then

439
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Speaker 4: come back and really play almost every single snap he's

440
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Speaker 4: been Outside of Drake May, I'd say he's number two

441
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Speaker 4: on the list of like good things that are happening.

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Speaker 1: For the and two players the Cardinals need to keep

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Speaker 1: their eye on on Sunday when the Cardinals host the

444
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Speaker 1: Patriots at State Farm Stadium. Mike always appreciated great insights

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Speaker 1: and look forward to seeing you on Sunday.

446
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Speaker 4: Craig zact great stuff. Do me a favorite. Just keep

447
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Speaker 4: my guy Darren Urban in check over there. I know

448
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Speaker 4: he can get a little crazy on weeks like this.

449
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Speaker 4: You know, when the Patriots are coming in.

450
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Speaker 3: We're clipping this and anytime he's getting crazy, I'm playing this.

451
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Speaker 1: And the first which will be the first time that

452
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Speaker 1: he goes crazy.

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Speaker 4: Yes, exactly the best.

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Speaker 1: I love it, appreciate it, Mike.

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Speaker 4: All right, guys, thanks a bunch.

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Speaker 1: Well we found the one person who likes Darren.

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Speaker 3: Okay, let's hold on coming out of the dates early

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Speaker 3: with that one likes there can stand there be different.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. That was some hype raise from Mike

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Speaker 1: Greece at the end of that conversation.

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Speaker 3: Well, considering Darren's the one who reviews our articles and

462
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Speaker 3: we sit in a room with every single day. We

463
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Speaker 3: love Darren.

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Speaker 1: Yes we do at cards chatter for people wondering who

465
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Speaker 1: we're talking about, but yes they must.

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Speaker 3: How would they not know?

467
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: It's the cards chatter, not just cards chatter, it's the

469
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Speaker 3: the card chatter. Come on, now, it's the Ohio state

470
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Speaker 3: type mindset. Let's saw down now.

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Speaker 1: I really I opened up that coming from a state alum,

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Speaker 1: that was wow.

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Speaker 3: Wow, don't tell Paris.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that might not go over well on the locker.

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Speaker 1: Paris appreciate Mike Grease giving us a couple of minutes

476
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Speaker 1: of his time ahead of this matchup on Sunday. Again,

477
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Speaker 1: as we talked about any given Sunday and that's got

478
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Speaker 1: to be the mindset for the Cardinals going into this week.

479
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Speaker 1: And yes, for the third time this season, the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: see a rookie quarterback in Drake May. It was Jade

481
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Speaker 1: and Daniels first, then Caleb Williams, and now Drake May.

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Speaker 1: So you'll eat the first three draft picks back in April,

483
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Speaker 1: the Cardinals will see and sometimes maybe the benefit of

484
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Speaker 1: seeing a young quarterback is early in the season. Of

485
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Speaker 1: course it didn't work out with Jayden Daniels, but you

486
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Speaker 1: know you've got a rookie quarterback and Drake Man. I

487
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Speaker 1: know you wrote about it or we'll write about it

488
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Speaker 1: for the Advance on Asycardinals dot com as far as

489
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Speaker 1: just facing a rookie quarterback, whether it's the beginning of

490
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Speaker 1: the season or later in the season. But this is

491
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Speaker 1: a different Drake May than what anyone saw when he

492
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Speaker 1: first started way back in Week six.

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Speaker 3: Of course, he needed to kind of get his legs

494
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Speaker 3: under him a little bit, and he's been able to

495
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Speaker 3: do that and people just like we talked about with

496
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Speaker 3: Mike Reese a little bit about how people were saying,

497
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Speaker 3: should he have been the starter earlier? What could that

498
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Speaker 3: have looked like? But he was behind Jacoby percent and

499
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 3: did a really nice job learning from Jacoby and now

500
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Speaker 3: he's coming in as the field general. He's a leader

501
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Speaker 3: on that team. And yeah, so I talked with LJ.

502
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Speaker 3: Kalier about it and just the differences and all the

503
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Speaker 3: types of quarterbacks that they've played in. When you we

504
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Speaker 3: go into it with how with knowing that they are

505
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Speaker 3: a rookie, is there stuff you're able to show it

506
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Speaker 3: to them? And he said, yeah, look there, of course

507
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Speaker 3: you're able to try to confuse him. But every quarterback

508
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 3: is different. We saw Jaden Daniel slice this up in

509
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Speaker 3: that first time and just as you mentioned Craig and

510
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Speaker 3: then you were able to get to Caleb Williams six

511
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Speaker 3: times and sack him that amount. So the Cardinals, i mean,

512
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Speaker 3: Drake May's offensive line is definitely not up to par.

513
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Speaker 3: They if Kadien Wallace, their third round pick, is returning

514
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Speaker 3: from his practice windows open Gerrod Mayo said on Friday

515
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Speaker 3: that it's unlikely that he is to actually return come

516
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Speaker 3: this weekend, so the Cardinals are going to need to

517
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Speaker 3: bring as much pressure as they can and try to

518
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Speaker 3: get home.

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Speaker 1: May is coming off one of his better performances of

520
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Speaker 1: the season. You could argue it's his best effort to

521
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Speaker 1: date as far as completion percentage eighty percent twenty four

522
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Speaker 1: of thirty for two hundred and thirty eight yards a touchdown.

523
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Speaker 1: He was picked off in a loss to the Colts

524
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Speaker 1: twenty five, twenty four. But again, it's not so much

525
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Speaker 1: what Drake can do with his arm. It's the ability

526
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Speaker 1: to get outside the pocket and scramble and extend plays

527
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, if you're that Cardinals defense,

528
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: now on the back end, you have to cover a

529
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Speaker 1: little bit longer and pay attention to who's coming out

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Speaker 1: of the backfield, whether that is Verdi Ramandre Stevenson or

531
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Speaker 1: Antonio Gibson. But also keep an eye on their too

532
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Speaker 1: leading receivers, both tight ends and Hunter Henry and Austin Hooper.

533
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Speaker 1: And that's a different dynamic for the Cardinals this season.

534
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Speaker 1: When you don't have a quote number one or number

535
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Speaker 1: two wide receiver, it's the tight end position that is

536
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Speaker 1: leading the team and receiving.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's the Cardinals have done a solid job

538
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Speaker 3: when they have played against top tight ends like George

539
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Speaker 3: Kittle and a handful of the other guys that they

540
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Speaker 3: have seen throughout the season, it's tight ends have become

541
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Speaker 3: a non factor when the Cardinals have played him in

542
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Speaker 3: a lot of cases throughout this season. However, this is

543
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Speaker 3: going to be very different because Hunter Henry is that

544
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Speaker 3: guy for them. He's become Drake May's favorite target. And

545
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Speaker 3: I don't just know that because we talked to Mike

546
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Speaker 3: Grease or because Hunter Henry is on my fantasy team

547
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Speaker 3: and I was able to see his development throughout the season.

548
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Speaker 3: What I do know, though, is that the Cardinals, whether

549
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Speaker 3: it be the linebackers having to try to stick to

550
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Speaker 3: the tight ends, if you're going to have a safety

551
00:27:10,040 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 3: drop down, whatever it's going to be, the Cardinals are

552
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Speaker 3: going to have their hands full. And it's not just

553
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Speaker 3: one tight end, it's two tight ends. But if there's

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Speaker 3: anything that gives me comfort and reassurance knowing that the

555
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 3: Cardinals defense practices against Drew Petsing's twelve personnel thirteen personnel

556
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Speaker 3: system all the time every week, so the Cardinals are

557
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Speaker 3: used to lining up from a trade McBride and knowing

558
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Speaker 3: what it takes to stop a top tight end.

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Speaker 1: By the way, the tight end position could be in

560
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Speaker 1: the spotlight for both teams on Sunday, not only because

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Speaker 1: with the Patriots utilize or how they utilize the tight

562
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Speaker 1: end position. But Trey McBride is the Cardinals leading receiver

563
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Speaker 1: as far as receptions and receiving yards. Two more catches

564
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Speaker 1: by McBride and he would break his own franchise single

565
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Speaker 1: season record four receptions by a tight end, which he

566
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Speaker 1: said last year with eighty one, and he needs forty

567
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Speaker 1: nine and receiving yards to hit the nine hundred mark.

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Speaker 1: And that has only happened one other time more by

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Speaker 1: one other player in Cardinals history from the tight end position,

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Speaker 1: and then as Hall of Famer Jackie Smith, who did

571
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Speaker 1: it in nineteen sixty seven. So those are the only

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Speaker 1: tight ends in franchise history with at least nine hundred

573
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Speaker 1: receiving yards in a season. And it's been clear to me,

574
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Speaker 1: Zach that Trey is wide receiver number one. You don't

575
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Speaker 1: want to call him a wide receiver, that's fine, but

576
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Speaker 1: he is receiver number one for this Cardinals team.

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Speaker 3: Does he break it both records? I think the reception

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Speaker 3: record he'll break. Do you think he breaks the receiver records? Well?

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Speaker 1: In order for this team to be successful right now

580
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Speaker 1: unless something changes based off what we've seen over the

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Speaker 1: last handful of games. No, Trey McBride needs to be targeted,

582
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Speaker 1: targeted a lot. He needs to catch the ball, catch

583
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Speaker 1: the ball a lot, and have more than forty nine receiving.

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Speaker 3: Yards one hundred percent. It looked like a different offense

585
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Speaker 3: until Trey McBride got the ball midway through the third

586
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Speaker 3: quarter against the Seattle Seahawks, because that's how long it

587
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 3: took him to have a reception in that game. So

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Speaker 3: to the Cardinals go goes through Trade McBride. Yes, Kyler

589
00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:05,280
Speaker 3: Murray is the cornerstone of it. You know what you

590
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 3: need to have and out of James Connor to have

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Speaker 3: those one hundred plus yards of scrimmage to ultimately put

592
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Speaker 3: yourself in a better position to succeed in to win

593
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Speaker 3: the game. However, when it comes down to who needs

594
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Speaker 3: the ball in their hands, it needs to be Trade

595
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Speaker 3: McBride this team. It puts feer in opposing offenses when

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Speaker 3: Trade McBride is as prevalent in the offense as he is,

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Speaker 3: and it allows We talked, we thought that Marvin Harrison

598
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Speaker 3: Junior's presidence was going to open up the offense, and

599
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Speaker 3: I'm sure it has. But knowing when Trade McBride gets

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Speaker 3: the ball. It also opens up for guys like Michael

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Speaker 3: Wilson and Marvin Harrison Junior to get the rock in

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Speaker 3: their hands as well.

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Speaker 1: No question, Kyler Murray plays well, the Cardinals win more

604
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Speaker 1: times than not. James Connor is the heart and soul

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Speaker 1: of the offense. You get him going, we know what

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Speaker 1: happens when he gets activated running the football and receiving

607
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Speaker 1: the football. That magic number of one hundred yards from scrimmage,

608
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Speaker 1: this Cardinals team is five and two on the sea.

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Speaker 1: And then yeah, when the ball is thrown, it's likely

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Speaker 1: going to be in the hands or towards the hands

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Speaker 1: of number eighty five Tray McBride, which probably a little

612
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Speaker 1: bit of a surprise this late in the season considering

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Speaker 1: the drop off when you look at numbers from number

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Speaker 1: one to number two. When you look at McBride with

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Speaker 1: eighty catches and Marvin Harrison Junior with forty five, I

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Speaker 1: mean that's that.

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Speaker 3: Well, if half the targets towards Marvin, now, that's where

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Speaker 3: that would be a whole different conversation.

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Speaker 1: And that's something that we can get into in the

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Speaker 1: offseason as far as how do you how do you

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Speaker 1: get that separation a little bit closer to one another

622
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Speaker 1: if McBride is still going to be your top receiver.

623
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Speaker 1: But how do you get a little bit more consistent

624
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Speaker 1: production out of number eighteen to kind of balance this

625
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Speaker 1: offense at least the passing game is concerned.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure it'll come with reps and it will come

627
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Speaker 3: with experience. And it's crazy to think reps because we

628
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Speaker 3: talked about the disparity between the targets towards Marvin the

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Speaker 3: actual amount of receptions that he does have, but I'm

630
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Speaker 3: pretty sure what there be so many passes his direction

631
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Speaker 3: where Kyler might have hit him on the wrong shoulder,

632
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Speaker 3: then Marvin was anticipating it. Because of that, it led

633
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Speaker 3: to an incomplete pass and I saw a stat though

634
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Speaker 3: that said Marvin has not actually dropped a pass since

635
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Speaker 3: week one. I'm pretty sure PFF is the group that

636
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Speaker 3: tweeted that one out, which is impressive because we know

637
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Speaker 3: of Marvin's ability to reel in passes once they come

638
00:31:23,400 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 3: his direction. But if the two are not on the

639
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 3: same page, the targets versus the receptions, that needs to

640
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Speaker 3: be minimalized as best as could be, because you need

641
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Speaker 3: Marvin to get his hands on the ball because he's

642
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Speaker 3: going to be bringing him.

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Speaker 1: In all eyes though. On Sunday on Kyler Murray, how

644
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:43,120
Speaker 1: does he personally bounce back? Two interceptions against the Seahawks

645
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,360
Speaker 1: leading to fourteen points and you lose that game by twelve.

646
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Speaker 1: And we've heard everyone say the right things, including from

647
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Speaker 1: Kyler himself, And how do you bounce back? We've seen

648
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: this team bounce back from losses before, but now it's

649
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,880
Speaker 1: a different situation. Three straight losses for the first time

650
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Speaker 1: this season and for the first time in a long time.

651
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Speaker 1: Two interceptions from Kyler Murray, So how do you get

652
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Speaker 1: K one back on track in a game? Again? Another

653
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Speaker 1: pivotal moment in the season as far as if you

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Speaker 1: still want to be a playoff team, you have to win.

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Speaker 1: On Sunday he said, don't text.

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Speaker 3: Him after the loss. You know, he said, he'll be fine,

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Speaker 3: So K One, I'm not gonna text you. I mean,

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Speaker 3: even though I don't. I say that tongue in cheek

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Speaker 3: here because I definitely do not have Kyler Murray's phone number.

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Speaker 3: But my point being, Kyler has said that his confidence

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Speaker 3: hasn't waivered. He has said that he is fully confident

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Speaker 3: in his abilities to get back out there he knows

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Speaker 3: what it takes. We've seen the glimpses of it throughout

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Speaker 3: the season. It's not by mistake. He was in the

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Speaker 3: MVP conversation just a month ago. He's got to get

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Speaker 3: back to those winning ways. You have to be able

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Speaker 3: to see him get out of the pocket war and

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Speaker 3: run and be a little bit more of the Kyler

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Speaker 3: Murray that we're so used to seeing. And I think

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Speaker 3: against the New England Patriots defense, they have a couple

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Speaker 3: of really good cornerbacks outside of that, similar to the

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Speaker 3: Cardinals in twenty twenty three, they don't have a lot

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Speaker 3: of household names out there, and I think that that's

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Speaker 3: something that Kyler Murray should be able to capitalize on

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Speaker 3: and try to get out of the pocket extend plays

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Speaker 3: with his legs, because the amount of rushing yards that

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Speaker 3: we've seen from him has not been the Kyler Murray

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Speaker 3: standard that we're used to seeing.

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Speaker 1: Cardinals and Patriots coming up on Sunday two twenty five

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Speaker 1: is the kickoff nine to thirty Pregame coverage begins on

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Speaker 1: the Arizona Cardinals Radio network and before we head on

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Speaker 1: out of here on a Friday, so allow you to

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Speaker 1: finish your advance. It's not done already.

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Speaker 3: It's not done yet. Okay, Yeah, we still got open

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Speaker 3: opera that's got a lot of amazing players.

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Speaker 1: Just want to reference something that is already on Asycardinals

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Speaker 1: dot com because I know you've been working on this

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Speaker 1: for a while now and you've got a couple of

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Speaker 1: players to kind of open up on what they do

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Speaker 1: off the field. And it's a story that I enjoyed

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Speaker 1: reading and I would like everyone else to enjoy reading

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Speaker 1: as well.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it's one of those unique pieces, I guess

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Speaker 3: you could say. Because Jesse Luketta, we know, is a

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Speaker 3: musician and something he does on the side, something that

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Speaker 3: he's talked about and has posted about. However, I noticed

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Speaker 3: he posted a photo on his Instagram story a few

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Speaker 3: weeks back and there was a finger, I mean, there

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Speaker 3: was a ring on somebody's finger that resembled Mac Wilson's logo.

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Speaker 3: So I did some digging into it and I realized

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Speaker 3: that Mac Wilson and Zach Pascal and Jesse Luketta have

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Speaker 3: started a rap group called Third and Go, and they

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Speaker 3: dropped an album and have forty songs unreleased that are

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Speaker 3: on standby right now that they're forty forty songs on

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Speaker 3: Standby they dropped the volume. It's called It's Us. No

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Speaker 3: apostrophe there, uh, but it's called It's Us. I know

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Speaker 3: that that made Darren r Yeah, it's thrilled. But it's

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Speaker 3: called It's Us. It's and a handful of the songs,

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Speaker 3: and it's why I found it to be kind of unique.

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Speaker 3: Are about the twenty twenty four Arizona Cardinals. They have songs.

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Speaker 3: There's a song called thirty in a Row and it

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Speaker 3: literally named every key player on this Arizona Cardinals team,

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Speaker 3: Marv Doors, Trey McBride. That's a scary site. Is one

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Speaker 3: of the lines JT and Buddha running from the sky.

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Speaker 3: Stay on that side because you know the cards are coming.

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Speaker 4: Like.

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Speaker 3: There's a lot of really powerful lyrics about this team,

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Speaker 3: and I think it's truly a testament to the bond

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Speaker 3: that a lot of these guys have in the locker room,

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Speaker 3: because when you're here, you spend most of your time,

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Speaker 3: you spend most of your time throughout the week with

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Speaker 3: these guys in the building away from your family, and

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Speaker 3: when you're able to bring that family atmosphere out of

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Speaker 3: the building, it's pretty special. And I know that a

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Speaker 3: lot of the guys have rallied around it because they

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Speaker 3: play it before some games in the locker room. So

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Speaker 3: it's a pretty it's a pretty cool piece and I

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Speaker 3: highly suggest people go take a look at Asycardinals dot com.

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Speaker 3: It's about the Cards trio, and you know, hopefully also

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Speaker 3: give their music a listen to because it's pretty solid.

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Speaker 1: It's a great article. The music was played during the

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Speaker 1: open portion of practice, when during team stretch on Thursday

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Speaker 1: and on Wednesday as well, I believe. But if they're

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Speaker 1: there's forty unreleased, Yeah, could we get a forty first

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Speaker 1: and maybe get some name drops from the digital content team.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm sure if we go there. Look, Mac Wilson

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Speaker 3: told me that he'll listen to the instrumental version of

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Speaker 3: the songs as he flies on road trips, and that's

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Speaker 3: when he'll jot down a lot of his lyrics. I

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Speaker 3: have no problem staying down next to Mac and be like,

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Speaker 3: can you try to fit in cover two?

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Speaker 4: Here?

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Speaker 3: Can you try to fit in Craig Reelou Like, I'm

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Speaker 3: sure you would have loved to be name dropped in

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Speaker 3: one of their rap songs.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that would be an.

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Speaker 3: Interesting on the side because you know Craig's coming. Like

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Speaker 3: I'm telling you, I think that that would be great.

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Speaker 3: I know that that's getting Why do I do this

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Speaker 3: to myself?

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Speaker 1: That might be something to work on in the offseason.

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Speaker 3: We could start our own rap group.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, that's not happening.

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Speaker 3: Why not? No, just they don't want competition.

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Speaker 1: I think one rap group within the building is enough.

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Speaker 3: They say three is a crowd, not too.

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Speaker 1: You can go solo if you want, say no more. Okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, we're in trouble.

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Speaker 3: Now, what's your my wrapping?

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Speaker 1: You can think about it. Let me know on Sunday

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Speaker 1: Cardinals and Patriots. That is the matchup in week fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Before we get any more deeper into this hole, we're

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Speaker 1: gonna put a lid on this edition.

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Speaker 3: Money gersh money no.

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Speaker 1: Please no, And that's kind. It's a nice ring to it.

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Speaker 1: Keep keep brainstorming there, let me try. All right, we'll

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Speaker 1: put a lid on this edition of Cardinals. Cover two

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Speaker 1: presented by Hyundai Probub, partner of the Arizona Cardinals. As always,

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Speaker 1: special thanks to our executive producer Jim mam Hundre our

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Speaker 1: associate producer Coddy Fincher. Fers Now I'm not gonna say

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Speaker 1: it for Zach Gershman. I'm Craig raylu We'll talk to

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Speaker 1: you next time here on Cardinals Cover two, see Money