1 00:00:03,520 --> 00:00:06,400 Speaker 1: At least. He's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 2 00:00:06,440 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: Williamson on your home of the Black and Gold Steelers 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:33,639 Speaker 1: Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here 4 00:00:33,680 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 1: with Matt Williamson and Matt. It is April. It is April. 5 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 1: How about that draft month? Month upon us? Lots of 6 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: good stuff happening around the league, all the Pro days 7 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 1: starting to wrap up. I think today is the last 8 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,000 Speaker 1: big day. A lot of a lot of schools working 9 00:00:48,000 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 1: on today, including Oregon, uh, Tulsa ones. He's slowing down heavily, 10 00:00:52,360 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: and you know Pro days, and this is pretty soon 11 00:00:55,400 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: when the team's go into hibern nation, into the war room. Yeah, 12 00:00:58,320 --> 00:01:01,880 Speaker 1: that's coming real soon. Absolutely. One thing we didn't talk 13 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,600 Speaker 1: a lot about the other day was the Steelers signing 14 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:09,959 Speaker 1: of Caitlin Blage. Yeah, no, we did kind of overlook that. Um, 15 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: people looking at that are going, why would you know, 16 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: what does that mean James Conner's out of the equation? 17 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: Not necessarily, not necessarily. Does that mean they're not going 18 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,880 Speaker 1: to draft a running back? Absolutely? Not the opposite, maybe right, 19 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: and just makes it more likely because that's really what's 20 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: left on the free agent market right now, and Caitlin 21 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: Blage to me, is a faster version of Benny Snell. 22 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: And that's about it. Yeah, he was somebody. I mean 23 00:01:37,200 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: just the history of Caitlin Blage. Was watched him in 24 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: college thinking I'm not real impressed. He went to the 25 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,959 Speaker 1: combine blew it up by the way. I mean, he's 26 00:01:46,280 --> 00:01:48,680 Speaker 1: raally a four or four seven at two pounds. He's 27 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,120 Speaker 1: big and he's fast, and even early in his career 28 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: I kind of thought, yeah, he's just kind of a 29 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: an athlete. You know, he runs big, he's runs fast. 30 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: But this past year it looked like something kind ah, 31 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: the light turned on a little bit. He looked a 32 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 1: little shifty here. Maybe he's seeing the field a little 33 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: bit better. He has some receiving chops, but he's not 34 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: a one. No, he's definitely not a one. He's he's 35 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,880 Speaker 1: had some success in short yard and situations over the 36 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: course of his career. And Thinky's converted like seventy of 37 00:02:18,080 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 1: his third third and shorts. So there's that. But he's 38 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:23,760 Speaker 1: a twinter and thirty pound back. He should who's fast, 39 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: you should run real fast into the line. Yeah, yeah, um, 40 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:30,079 Speaker 1: you know, so there's that, And of course that's something 41 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:34,160 Speaker 1: that the Steelers need to get better at UM. I mean, 42 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:36,800 Speaker 1: I think his best football started this past year. So 43 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: is he gonna be some untapped Jim. Probably not. But 44 00:02:41,080 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: I think you're getting as sending player at this stage 45 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 1: of his career. You're getting a depth piece, another depth 46 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 1: piece that cost you very You may not even make 47 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: the team, you know, throw another back in the mix. 48 00:02:52,720 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 1: These guys get hurt something. You might lose one in 49 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: the preseason, especially again in a seventeen game schedule. Yeah, 50 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,720 Speaker 1: you've mentioned that too, like maybe keep one more on 51 00:03:00,760 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: the roster than you generally would have, so that that 52 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: adds up to me. I mean it's not a huge move, 53 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 1: the needle move though, No it is not. Um. We're 54 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: starting to see more and more mock drafts get dropped 55 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:16,640 Speaker 1: on us here. Daniel Jeremiah just put out his second 56 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: But I don't even think this is a second monk. 57 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: This is like his mock Oh, I think he doesn't 58 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: put a number on him, but yeah, he did the 59 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:28,440 Speaker 1: first two rounds. Actually, it's some interesting couple. Yeah, interesting 60 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:31,120 Speaker 1: notes here. He does have the forty Niners taking Mac 61 00:03:31,200 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: Jones at three. Listen to his podcasts many times and 62 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:38,360 Speaker 1: he's him and Bucky are shocked by it, but that's 63 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 1: what they've been told that the league keeps telling them 64 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:43,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna take mac Jones. I sort of understand it, 65 00:03:43,520 --> 00:03:46,280 Speaker 1: but I don't condone it. Yeah, I don't either. He does. 66 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:49,640 Speaker 1: He has the Falcons taking Kyle Pitts at four, and 67 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: he included trades in here, so he didn't have them 68 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 1: moving back. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, obviously their phones will 69 00:03:54,920 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: be blowing up. Trade Lance would be hard to pass 70 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,040 Speaker 1: on as wood Fields. I mean, I like Fields my 71 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: number two quarterbacks. Still, I think you're that's the I 72 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: like him over Wilson. Yeah, but if it's if you 73 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: think you can win with Ryan for the next couple 74 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: of years, pitch would make you a great offense. Yeah. 75 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: And the opportunity again, as we talked about last earlier 76 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:18,479 Speaker 1: this week, I should say, is there for them. I 77 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 1: mean New Orleans is not going to be as good 78 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: as it was last year, probably Caro Carolina is still 79 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:26,680 Speaker 1: a rebuilding team. So it's it's you in in Tampa Bay. 80 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: I would think I'm not sure New Orleans falls off 81 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: a cliff. I mean, they were able to They'll be 82 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:33,040 Speaker 1: in the mix for maybe that seventh wild card spot 83 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 1: ye wild card or something like that. But Tampa will 84 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: be the favorite and of it. I think Atlanta is 85 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 1: a better team than them right now. Yeah, I do too. 86 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: And their point differential was almost even even though they 87 00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: lost a lot of games, so new coach could certainly 88 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: help to Um. He has the Panthers making a trade 89 00:04:49,160 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 1: with Detroit because that's seven to eight, seven to eight, 90 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 1: eight to seven, I should say moving up so they 91 00:04:54,800 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 1: can get trade lance. I bet they would love that 92 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,039 Speaker 1: and would not to give up. Detroit would like that. 93 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: What's he That's the best deal ever if you're those teams. 94 00:05:02,520 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: Absolutely mean you get maybe a third, Okay, I'll take 95 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: a third to pick one. Spotlight just means you're afraid 96 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: that Denver or New England or somebody is trying to 97 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:15,600 Speaker 1: sneak up and get Yeah, but it's the best deal 98 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: ever for the team that's trading back. Um. Then he 99 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 1: has the Lions taking Jalen Waddle after moving the receivers 100 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: are Denver gets Patrick's hurtin. That's fine by me too. 101 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a good pick for them. J C. 102 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 1: Horn goes to Dallas. He could go that high. Yeah. Yeah, 103 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: Then the Patriots move up to eleven to get Justin Fields. Boy, 104 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,920 Speaker 1: that would be horrible. Now they would have to give 105 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,719 Speaker 1: up quite a bit more to go from fifteen to eleven. 106 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: I would think. I don't think a third gets it done, 107 00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 1: especially with a quarterback, and a lot of those trades 108 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 1: depends who's out there too. If if there's five at 109 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: that point, maybe the Steelers will be called to get 110 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: to eleven the field, you know what I mean? Like that, 111 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: more than just one team would probably be in the 112 00:05:57,560 --> 00:05:59,320 Speaker 1: market to go get him if he drops out of 113 00:05:59,360 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: the top ten, which makes it more expensive. But still, 114 00:06:02,480 --> 00:06:04,279 Speaker 1: if you're in New England and you can trade what 115 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: fifteen and next year's first, I'd take that. I do 116 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:10,560 Speaker 1: that for Justin Fields, Yeah, no doubt. At twelve, then 117 00:06:10,600 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: he had After the Eagles moved down, they get Micah Parsons. 118 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: I can see that their linebacker be neglected for a while. 119 00:06:16,680 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 1: Um can go a lot of different directions. How bout this, 120 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,360 Speaker 1: pinais Sewell drops all the way to thirteen to the Chargers, 121 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: would they be at I can't see that happening. I mean, 122 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,599 Speaker 1: I think he's a top six or seven player at worst. 123 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: But if five quarterbacks go and three receivers and Kyle Pitts. 124 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: It doesn't take long before you're falling um and that 125 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: starts a run on offensive lineman because then Minnesota takes 126 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:47,880 Speaker 1: Rashawn Slater, which they would uh, the Giants who moved 127 00:06:47,920 --> 00:06:51,840 Speaker 1: down take a woo Sue Cormoa. Okay, that'd be the 128 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: first linebacker they've taken since Carl Banks. Yeah, that's been 129 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: that's been a that's been a short time. The Dolphins 130 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: then make a trade with the Cardinals to come up 131 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:04,080 Speaker 1: and get Elijah bear A Tucker and you can play 132 00:07:04,120 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: tackle for them, guard or whatever. And they have plenty 133 00:07:07,080 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: of picks even after you know their trades. The Raiders 134 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: take Trevor Moig. The Cardinals then take Caleb Farley, which 135 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,080 Speaker 1: is still a gift at eighteen. I think that's about 136 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: where people will consider him. Yeah, he's he's too good 137 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:24,120 Speaker 1: to you think he's the third corner take and I 138 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: think he still goes ahead of Newsom. I think he should. Yeah, 139 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 1: it's not a knock on Newsom, and the Steelers should 140 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: consider Newsom at twenty four. But Farley has got such 141 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:37,400 Speaker 1: a high ceiling. Yeah, the ceiling is ridiculous. Washington takes 142 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:42,920 Speaker 1: Derrisaw mm hm. The Bears. He has taken Darius Tony. 143 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:45,280 Speaker 1: I'm not a big Tony fan. I don't know that 144 00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 1: he's any better or better than Elijah More and some 145 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: of these others. Got some of those they do, guys. Yeah, 146 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 1: you know, every mock I've done the Bears have been 147 00:07:54,640 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 1: tough because Derisaw is usually not there. There's definitely not 148 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,040 Speaker 1: a quarterback. The receivers are fine, but I don't want 149 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 1: to be the team that takes the fourth receiver, you 150 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So it doesn't work. They don't 151 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 1: always work out great. They can take a corner, they could, yeah, 152 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: they could. They could take a lot of stuff. The 153 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: Colts stake Quitty pay That's the first edge off the board. 154 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: It justin Houston, but edge is a big need for them. 155 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: Edge and left tackle or one of those is gonna 156 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,560 Speaker 1: be the Colts pick. He has the Titans taking Newsom. 157 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 1: That makes sense. They revamped their secondary a lot and 158 00:08:28,240 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: moved on from you know, Dory Jackson, things like that. 159 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: The Jets take a t N makes sense. Then the 160 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: Steelers get Jay Harris. I see that. It's funny. I 161 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: was just on the phone with stand and he said 162 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: of the team's picking one to twenty three, who could 163 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: take a back Dolphins said, Dolphins and Jets. They're not 164 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,199 Speaker 1: gonna take it for down now. If they moved back, 165 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:54,680 Speaker 1: that's that, that's in play. I think Arizona is the 166 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 1: sneaky one too. Yeah, that's a little early, but if 167 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: they don't get a corner, remember they moved Act eighteen 168 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: too in this Yeah, yeah, you know. And so those 169 00:09:03,440 --> 00:09:05,680 Speaker 1: are the three you keep an eye on. The Jets 170 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: seat so many things though. I mean, I don't think 171 00:09:08,600 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: anybody to give him a hard time for taking a 172 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 1: t n or Harris or whomever. But those are three 173 00:09:12,520 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 1: teams I think to keep an eye on. Jacksonville then 174 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: takes Tevin Jenkins. Cleveland takes Gregory Rousseau. I can see that. 175 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:21,679 Speaker 1: I think they'll I think it sets up well for them. 176 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: They'll take best edge available, whoever that is. The Ravens 177 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:29,319 Speaker 1: take Tarris Marshall again every month, every month. Yeah, and 178 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 1: everyone of Mels and Mels is the Mel is the 179 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: Ravens guy. I don't want to put it in stone, 180 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: but I think there's a good chance to hear will 181 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:39,360 Speaker 1: play against Terrence Marshall's plice here. Yeah, the Saints take 182 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: Elijah Moore. I like that. The Packers get jam and Davis. Hm. 183 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: That's interesting. You always see corner or receiver to them, 184 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: but Davis would would be useful for them. They can't 185 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:52,640 Speaker 1: stop the run, No, they can't, and they can do 186 00:09:52,720 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: speed in them to the Bills. Take Jalen Phillips. Boy 187 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,200 Speaker 1: that I think he's the best edge of all of them. 188 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: I'd take him well over Rousseau and all those guys. Uh. 189 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 1: Kansas City takes a Zizoulari. Wow, I'd have a hard 190 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:10,040 Speaker 1: time taking him over Cosby or type. I hear you. 191 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,720 Speaker 1: And then he has the Buccaneers taking Xavin Collins. Wow, 192 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: they don't need him, but you just take him. Yeah, 193 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 1: sash him away. I figure out what he's highlights right now. 194 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: It's pretty impressive. He's he's calling Collins a three or 195 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 1: four outside linebacker. Think. I don't think he is. I 196 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:29,719 Speaker 1: don't think he is either. Can Yeah. I think he's 197 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 1: kind of Lawrence Timishes, Timmy's Timmins like and that you 198 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 1: can say, Okay, he's an outside linebacker. He can stand 199 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,679 Speaker 1: up out there and give you some Yeah, but I 200 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,000 Speaker 1: think he's not super physical. I think he's better off 201 00:10:42,040 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: being a running hit guy in the middle of three 202 00:10:43,640 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 1: or four defense. Yeah, I do too, and flipping his 203 00:10:46,760 --> 00:10:48,840 Speaker 1: hips and running with tight ends and things like that, 204 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: walking out the sun. Yeah, really big doing. I mean 205 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: there's I haven't seen this comparison with him, but they're 206 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,680 Speaker 1: similar size as well as Tremaine Edmonds. You get that big, 207 00:10:59,720 --> 00:11:01,599 Speaker 1: sick five guy in the middle of the field that 208 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,360 Speaker 1: can run a little bit, and that makes it makes 209 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: it tough on the quarterbacks, like you gotta drop that 210 00:11:06,360 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: touch pass in in the middle of the field. Throwing 211 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: lanes are tight enough as they are, you gonna try 212 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:12,400 Speaker 1: to drop it in over a guy six five in 213 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:15,680 Speaker 1: the middle. You know the field, you know, super long 214 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: arms and all that. And again, I mean all these 215 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,680 Speaker 1: tight ends that can run. I mean even the Abrons 216 00:11:20,720 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 1: of the world, let alone the Kelsey's and Kittles. And 217 00:11:23,000 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he's gonna win every matchup of those guys, 218 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: but at least he can. He has the size and 219 00:11:27,440 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: the length to be in their league. You know. That's 220 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 1: that's that goes a long way. We were talking off 221 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: the air because we were watching Zaven Collins and the 222 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: comparisons you would like to were Bar and vander esh 223 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:40,480 Speaker 1: I think those are real apt and then I mentioned, 224 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 1: um the other call things Jamie Collins and all those 225 00:11:43,880 --> 00:11:45,880 Speaker 1: guys will not vanderesh as much. Can come up and 226 00:11:45,960 --> 00:11:47,760 Speaker 1: line up at the line of scrimmage. But they're more 227 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 1: finesse guys, you know, they're they're space players. They're just big. 228 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they'll get you four sacks a year probably, right, 229 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: but that's not what they do best. It's not what 230 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 1: they do best. I don't think he is a three 231 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,839 Speaker 1: or four outside and backer at least dr Steelers defense. Yeah, 232 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: I think he'd be in the second level, especially with 233 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: his height next to Bush. Yeah, really that would be 234 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: a nice complimented. I'm sure this was turned in before 235 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: the pro day, which just happened and day didn't he 236 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: ran you know, high four fives low four six four 237 00:12:17,080 --> 00:12:22,319 Speaker 1: six six Yeah, Jacksonville to start the second day takes 238 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: two to at well. Oh, I don't see that. I 239 00:12:24,880 --> 00:12:27,160 Speaker 1: don't see that at all. In an awful pro day. Yeah, 240 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: I mean he was he was like one hundred fifty 241 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 1: five pounds. Hundred and fifty five pounds. What wouldn't you 242 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,040 Speaker 1: take more at a perdue if you're gonna ta little guy, 243 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 1: gonna take a little guy. He's explosive and he's thicker 244 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: and stronger, and um At Well ran well by wide 245 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: receiver standards, but not by hundred fifty five pounds standards. Yeah, 246 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: he was like four or four four or something like that. 247 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: Maybe he runs faster and people are chasing him because 248 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: he's fast on the field, and some of these pro 249 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: days you can't look too much into. But I don't 250 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: know that he goes on a second day and little 251 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: guys take big hits. The Jets intake with the second 252 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: pick of day to Liam Mike Burke. Yeah, that's I mean, 253 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 1: I can that that Jet second pick could be one 254 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:11,760 Speaker 1: that hurts the Steelers, you know, corner edge, offense, tackle 255 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: know h the Falcons and take Javonte Williams at thirty five. 256 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 1: That's the one I think you if they'll keep an 257 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 1: eye on. Yeah, their second pick could easily be a 258 00:13:18,559 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 1: running back, uh Dolphins sake. Ronni Perkins. Rashod Bateman had 259 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:23,800 Speaker 1: a nice Pro day. He goes at thirty seven to 260 00:13:23,840 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 1: the Eagles. A lot of these balks. I've seen him 261 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,640 Speaker 1: fall out around one. I'm not sure I'm buying that 262 00:13:27,880 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 1: he ran like four three nine. Yeah, the time seemed 263 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 1: faster this year because everybody that's always has the pro days, right, 264 00:13:37,800 --> 00:13:39,480 Speaker 1: and so yeah, they are a little bit faster than 265 00:13:39,559 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: you combine. I'm shocked that it's faster than last combine. 266 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:44,880 Speaker 1: You know, these guys are getting faster. You know, they're better. 267 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: They're better training too, you know, that's part of the 268 00:13:48,080 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: coaches and you know, and some of these guys have 269 00:13:49,840 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: opted out him and worked on at forty forever Marshall 270 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: verse Bateman to me is interesting. Is the fourth true receiver? 271 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: You know, the Bengal State Jayla Mayfield, Sante Samuel Jr. 272 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: Goes to the Panthers, Joe try On to the Broncos 273 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 1: at forty Nick Bolton goes at forty one to the Lions. 274 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: That sounds about right, Carlos, as late as he could fall, Yeah, Carlos, 275 00:14:13,240 --> 00:14:15,360 Speaker 1: although I did mock. I was doing some walks last 276 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:17,520 Speaker 1: night and Bolton was available to me in the second round. 277 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of linebackers, but maybe 278 00:14:19,440 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: somebody would like call. And he didn't run as well 279 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: as the other guys he came. But yeah, but the 280 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: tape is really good, Uh, Carlos Basham to the Giants 281 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: of forty two, Kelvin Joseph to the forty Niners. We 282 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:34,800 Speaker 1: even talked about him much, but he's an interesting quarun. 283 00:14:36,200 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: Christian Barmore the first defensive tackle taking at forty four 284 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 1: by the Cowboys. No defensive tackles in the first picks. 285 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: I wonder how people will view that, Like, I think 286 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:50,120 Speaker 1: he's clearly number one, but he's not special. Yeah, I 287 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: mean do you look at and say, boy, I need 288 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 1: a D tackle? Should I overdraft this guy to get 289 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: the best one? Like I often look at Jacksonville second 290 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: pick and think that could be a bar More Landing 291 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: spa Door Tampa at the end of the round and 292 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 1: kids instead of just keep you know, resigning sue every year. Um, 293 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: but that's not really good business to do it that 294 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: just to just because he's the best DT. Yeah uh 295 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: prep pat Firemouth to the Jaguars at forty five. That 296 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,440 Speaker 1: would be a good pick. They need him bad. Elijah 297 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: Molden at forty six to the Patriots. Okay, the Chargers 298 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: get Creed Humphrey, so they get too offensive, Like wow, 299 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: I mean they've just signed the center to the biggest 300 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,440 Speaker 1: I mean it could Yeah, that's fine, but they would 301 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 1: really upgrade their offensive one in a big way. Uh 302 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 1: caused me later to Yeah, I mean they like five 303 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:41,040 Speaker 1: guys usually have two. The Raiders get Samuel Cosmi need to. 304 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 1: I mean they're threw he gave away the whole offensive. 305 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: Ron Delmore goes at forty nine to the Cardinals. That 306 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: would make sense. Four wide, you know, verte or horizontally 307 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: inclined passing game. Get them the ball in space. Yeah, 308 00:15:55,840 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 1: that's a good fit. Doesn't have to be the one, 309 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 1: but I meant targets. Yeah. Uh, Jabril Cox at fifty 310 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: to the Dolphins. He's a tough one for me to 311 00:16:04,800 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: to to factor in there because I likes I like 312 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: a lot of the traits. Yeah, but I don't like 313 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:12,800 Speaker 1: that he's already twenty almost twenty four. Yeah, for people 314 00:16:12,800 --> 00:16:14,680 Speaker 1: don't realize that. I mean he transferred L s U 315 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: late in life, and you know it's not great. Yeah, 316 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: but if you give him a third you know that 317 00:16:21,720 --> 00:16:23,640 Speaker 1: if that makes him fall. This is that area where 318 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: I look at it. But there's probably gonna be somebody 319 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:29,000 Speaker 1: there at the inside linebacker position. Like, Okay, I can 320 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: get they're similar players, but this guy's two years young 321 00:16:32,120 --> 00:16:34,080 Speaker 1: two years younger, and yeah, maybe it takes a little 322 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 1: longer to maybe not quite as NFL ready or whatever. 323 00:16:36,760 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: You see. I don't even know how NF already. Cox 324 00:16:39,440 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: was l s U. One year before that, he was 325 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 1: at North Dakota State, you know, saying, well, he had 326 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 1: nine interceptions in his career, Okay, but most of them 327 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: were in North Dakota State where he was playing against 328 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: guys who are you know? Is using second round pick 329 00:16:53,160 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 1: on him? I think he's a really good player. I 330 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 1: do too, But but then four years from now when 331 00:16:56,840 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: his contracts up, is he's twenty nine? Right? How about 332 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 1: this one? He has Washington at fifty one taking Kellen Monde. 333 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: I wonder if there's a second round quarterback. We operated 334 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 1: an assumption mac Jones go in the first round, someone's 335 00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:15,440 Speaker 1: taking him. Is there a second round quarterback? And who 336 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,960 Speaker 1: is it? Some people do like mind a lot. Well, 337 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 1: here's the thing. At fifty two, he has the Bears 338 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:25,840 Speaker 1: taking Kyle Trask, who back to back quarterbacks. I think 339 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: I'd rather roll the dice on mond than Traft. I 340 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:31,960 Speaker 1: think he has more ability. Um, the guy I might 341 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: take over both of him is what's his face from 342 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 1: Stanford if I could sit him for a year, you know, 343 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:39,920 Speaker 1: if I was Tampa and just had no need for 344 00:17:39,960 --> 00:17:44,879 Speaker 1: a starter, I don't know. These Tier two quarterbacks are frightening. 345 00:17:45,400 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: The Titans steake Andre Cisco, the Colts take Melon Fanu 346 00:17:49,400 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 1: the cornerback, like the big long guys. That brings us 347 00:17:52,320 --> 00:17:55,040 Speaker 1: to the Steelers second round picking Daniel Jeremiah's draft. I 348 00:17:55,040 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: remember they took Nausea Harris in the first round. They 349 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: stay at Alabama and this one and take Landon Dickerson. 350 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,440 Speaker 1: That's awesome. I mean, as long as the medicals check out. 351 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: I you know, seeing him do the cart wheels at 352 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: the Alabama Pro Day, I don't know if he saw that. 353 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: I heard that he did. Yeah, not just a cart wheel, 354 00:18:16,280 --> 00:18:20,120 Speaker 1: he's a cart wheeled across the field three months after 355 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:22,400 Speaker 1: he had a c l search thirty pounds or something 356 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: like that. Yeah. I think he's a great player. I mean, 357 00:18:25,160 --> 00:18:27,880 Speaker 1: if he was clean, clean, he's the first round pick 358 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: all day long. Absolutely, Yeah, like you would take twenty 359 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:34,760 Speaker 1: four great. So, I mean the risks are hard for 360 00:18:34,800 --> 00:18:37,240 Speaker 1: you and I had to comment on, but the NFL 361 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 1: tell us a lot about what they think of him. 362 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: At fifty six he has the Seahawks taking Quinn Miners 363 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,679 Speaker 1: as the third center taken in this draft. I think 364 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,680 Speaker 1: he's got a chance to be really good too. Yeah. 365 00:18:47,800 --> 00:18:50,080 Speaker 1: I mean, maybe he's not a week one starter, but 366 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,680 Speaker 1: so what how about this the Ravens get in his 367 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: mock at Jason Oha in the second round. His his 368 00:18:57,000 --> 00:19:00,280 Speaker 1: numbers are too ridiculous at the pro day. The one 369 00:19:00,359 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: number keeps jumping out zero. Here's one to counteract that. 370 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: And I'm with you, I mean, and he's a project. 371 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: Like we did a mock on my podcast today and 372 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 1: I had even number teams and my uh host had 373 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: the odd number teams. I took him at thirty with Buffalo, like, 374 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: we don't need you right now. There's a lot of 375 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:22,879 Speaker 1: teams that could wait on him or Indie maybe you know. 376 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,960 Speaker 1: Um again, production is very important, don't get me wrong, 377 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 1: but Daniel Hunter had one and a half sacks at 378 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,480 Speaker 1: l s U his whole career, and there's an art 379 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,280 Speaker 1: to get in the quarterback. I bet that. But I 380 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 1: think he's gonna go high way. Yeah, but I don't 381 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: know that Daniel Hunter ran. He didn't run a four 382 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: three seven, not to that degree. Yeah, I mean, he 383 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,000 Speaker 1: was a good tester, and he was a third round 384 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:49,960 Speaker 1: pick I think. Yeah. But anyways, that's Daniel Jeremiah's first 385 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 1: two rounds um and he's seeing where people were TJS 386 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,439 Speaker 1: tied in, he's locked in. Maybe we'll get him on 387 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: the show here soon at some point that possibility were here. Yeah, 388 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,280 Speaker 1: it's certainly a possibility. We'd love to do that, love 389 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: to pick his brain, maybe even go through this mock 390 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,359 Speaker 1: with him and you know, ask him about some of 391 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,600 Speaker 1: these picks that had us. We mentioned many times, he's 392 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: a big Javonte Williams Van Yeah, you know there's and 393 00:20:11,000 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: he's a big He was one of the first ones 394 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 1: to really be on Jamon Davis. So a couple of 395 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 1: guys who mentioned Steeler Land. Yeah, you get Davis going 396 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: in the first round, yea, in the first Williams going 397 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,600 Speaker 1: right after that at the first start of day two. 398 00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's the thing about the Steelers draft. If 399 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: they don't take one in the first round, one of 400 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 1: those top three guys, they're not going to get him 401 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 1: in the second round. I was just on with stand 402 00:20:36,600 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 1: and he was asking me about Trey Sermon, and I'm like, 403 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: I guess he would be my next best guys are okay, 404 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 1: but to red down back, I mean, maybe you just 405 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: wait till next year. Maybe you know there and look, 406 00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: one of those other backs is probably gonna hit oh one, 407 00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 1: will Yeah, your guess as goods vine. Yeah, you know right, 408 00:20:54,440 --> 00:20:56,520 Speaker 1: you're trying to figure out which one it's going to 409 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:59,000 Speaker 1: be and then and then banking on that is not 410 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 1: good business. I mean, if they don't get one of 411 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: the three, I'd be calling Connor not necessarily as the one, 412 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:08,800 Speaker 1: but at least when he's healthy, he's probably your one. Yeah, right, 413 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: he's gotta be in the mix. Yeah, but I just 414 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: think that they gotta take one early. And we've just 415 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:17,080 Speaker 1: seen life without that type of back for a while now. 416 00:21:17,320 --> 00:21:21,480 Speaker 1: It's not post leb Bell has not been so great. Yeah, 417 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: but it's flashes. That's what you get. Though. When you 418 00:21:24,440 --> 00:21:27,440 Speaker 1: take those backs later, you get the flashes. You don't 419 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: get the guy who is that every down difference. Yeah. 420 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: So anyways, we're gonna we're gonna take a break. He 421 00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lally. We want to thank 422 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: Jacob Brick for keeping us on the air throughout the 423 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 1: course of the show here, and we want to thank 424 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 1: you for listening to this edition of The Drive on 425 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:43,560 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio