1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Okay, guys, I am officially on my High and Mighty tour. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:08,119 Speaker 1: March twentieth is Denver, Colorado. March twenty seventh Portland, Maine. 3 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: March twenty eighth Providence, Rhode Island. March twenty ninth, Springfield, Massachusetts. 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:16,960 Speaker 1: April tenth is Chicago. I'll be at the Chicago Theater 5 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: in April eleventh. Indianapolis, Indiana. April twelfth Louisville, Kentucky. April 6 00:00:24,079 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: sixteenth is Albuquerque, New Mexico. April seventeenth is Masa, Arizona. 7 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 1: April twenty third is Kansas City, Missouri. April twenty fourth 8 00:00:31,880 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: is Saint Louis, Missouri. April twenty fifth is Minneapolis, Minnesota. 9 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: April thirtieth Nashville, Tennessee. May first is Charlotte, North Carolina. 10 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 1: May second is Durham, North Carolina. May sixth I'm doing 11 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 1: Netflix as a joke festival. I will be in Los Angeles. 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:55,440 Speaker 1: May fifteenth, Saratoga, California. May sixteenth, Monterey, California. May seventeenth, Modesto, California, 13 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 1: and then June fourth Portchester, New York. June fifth is 14 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: Boston in mass and June twelfth is Portland, Oregon and 15 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: then Seattle is June thirteenth. I'm doing a second show 16 00:01:08,400 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: at the Paramount Theater in Denver on Saturday, December fifth, 17 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 1: So suck on that. Everybody. Go to Chelseahandler dot com 18 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 1: for tickets. Hi Catherine, Hi Chelsea, Hi, Hi, Hi, I'm good. 19 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,399 Speaker 1: I'm in Los Angeles. Oh, thank you, thank you. We 20 00:01:24,440 --> 00:01:25,679 Speaker 1: were going to do it at my house, but I 21 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 1: had to replace my downstairs air conditioning. 22 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:28,840 Speaker 2: I know, there's always something. 23 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:31,680 Speaker 1: Just I just went my house is finished. My house 24 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: is finished. Everybody, it's finished, finished, finish. But then I 25 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:36,600 Speaker 1: saw all these articles in the newspaper. Well I didn't 26 00:01:36,600 --> 00:01:39,279 Speaker 1: read the newspaper, but my publicis send me a roundup 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 1: of like stuff, and apparently it's all over the news 28 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:43,960 Speaker 1: that I bought my toxic house from RFK Junior. Because 29 00:01:43,959 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: I must have said it. I think I said it 30 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: on this podcast, yeah several times. 31 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 3: But you know what, we need the witches to know 32 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 3: that it's not his house anymore, because I think they 33 00:01:51,000 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 3: still keep cursing it over and over and over again. 34 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 1: Okay, so Etsy witches. 35 00:01:55,640 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like you can hire a witch on Etsy 36 00:01:57,440 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: to like, you know, get with your guy. 37 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going over to Kimmel so I'm going to 38 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:03,680 Speaker 1: make an announcement there about my house and be like, 39 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: please bless my house. Everyone give me send me your 40 00:02:06,280 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: good energy. 41 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 3: I will spend seven dollars on Etsy to have a 42 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 3: witch bless your house. 43 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: Okay, okay, thank you. I think I think I added 44 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 1: a second show in Denver. I'm coming back in the 45 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: winter because I didn't want to do any two night ers. 46 00:02:17,840 --> 00:02:20,800 Speaker 1: So I'm doing a second show at the Paramount Theater 47 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: in Denver on Saturday, December fifth, and the pre sale 48 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: starts Wednesday at ten am local time. Okay, so go 49 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,320 Speaker 1: get a ticket if you've missed out for my show 50 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,800 Speaker 1: in Denver, which is this Friday. Anyway, we have a 51 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 1: very cutie patuity Canadian guest today. She's from you know, 52 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: or from Scrubs and Roseanne and Rick and Morty and Moore. 53 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:46,079 Speaker 1: Please welcome actress Sarah Chalk. Oh there she is. Look 54 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: at that beautiful face. 55 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:50,239 Speaker 2: Oh oh my god? Technology is it working? Can you 56 00:02:50,280 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 2: guys hear me? 57 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,240 Speaker 1: We is? We is working? We'd be working, and shit, 58 00:02:54,639 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: we be gemmin I talk like this. Now that I'm 59 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: back from Jamaica, I have so many different access to 60 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 1: pull from. 61 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 2: I want you're all about to make up. I can't 62 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 2: believe the headphones, the microla, the zoo link. It's all working. 63 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 2: It's all coming all technology. 64 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: And babe, I'm allergic totech. We're at the same age, 65 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,959 Speaker 1: we're both allergic to technology. I want to die before 66 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,399 Speaker 1: AI comes out. I just want to euthanize. I want 67 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 1: a group euthanized. Do you want to do it with me? 68 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 2: I'm in We'll do it in Whistler, which is I 69 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 2: can see. It's where you are. It's my favorite place 70 00:03:24,360 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 2: in the whole world. 71 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 1: Before you say another word, please, I'm going to interrupt 72 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: you because I just learned this morning that you have 73 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: a house in Whistler. How is that? How is it 74 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 1: possible that I didn't know that? 75 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 2: How are we not skiing together? 76 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:38,320 Speaker 1: All right? Well, how are we not skaing together? 77 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:40,960 Speaker 2: It's already love it first sight. I want to ski 78 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:45,120 Speaker 2: with you. I grew up. I learned to ski in Whistler, 79 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:46,960 Speaker 2: like forty five years ago. 80 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: Oh my god, that's what I dreamed. That's where I 81 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,360 Speaker 1: dreamed to have grown up. All my friends that grow 82 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:54,960 Speaker 1: up here learned how to ski here about forty five 83 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: years ago, so you probably know some of them. 84 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,520 Speaker 2: I probably do. It's crazy we uh yeah, I grew 85 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 2: up in Vancouver and so we would go up to 86 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 2: Whistler on the weekends. Yeah, it's my favorite place. 87 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,600 Speaker 1: It's my favorite place too. I love especially right now, 88 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: we're having a winter wonderland moment. We're about to get 89 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,040 Speaker 1: fifty centimeters tonight. 90 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:16,880 Speaker 2: I heard. I can't believe it. I'm actually in la 91 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: and I'm in a hotel as you can see, and I 92 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,080 Speaker 2: have like and obviously this season has not been ideal 93 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 2: yet and so finally the snow is coming. I'm so jealous. 94 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:30,160 Speaker 2: So are you gonna go, like straight after this podcasting. 95 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: I'm literally out there. I'm wearing all of my bottoms 96 00:04:33,080 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 1: that you can't see. My heated socks are on, I 97 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 1: have my ski pants on, and I am gonna Yeah, 98 00:04:38,920 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna run out the door and ski. I have 99 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: a couple of friends that are visiting, so it's I 100 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: haven't been here for a few weeks. So I came 101 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 1: back and I'm like, oh good, there's lazy snow because 102 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,240 Speaker 1: you as you know, we have all this rain problem 103 00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:51,960 Speaker 1: now where it rains to the top of the Mountain 104 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: and then ruins all the fucking snow. But I just 105 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:56,479 Speaker 1: want to talk about first of all, aren't you so 106 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,280 Speaker 1: grateful to be a Canadian? 107 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I am. I am. I mean I'm actually 108 00:05:01,839 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 2: dual now because I lived in La seventeen years, so 109 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 2: I got my American citizenship when I was here. 110 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: Well, you might want to revert that right back to 111 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: Canada's sister. I might just want to My friends were out. 112 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,040 Speaker 1: We went over to my friend Andre's house for dinner 113 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: last night, and so there was a bunch of Canadians 114 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:18,440 Speaker 1: and my American friends. We left and they go, my god, 115 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: these Canadians are just so nice. It's so weird. And 116 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, I know, and they're like and their children 117 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: are so lovely and engaged and sit at dinners and 118 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: talk to the adults. I'm like, I know. And they're like, 119 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:37,040 Speaker 1: this makes us feel like shit about our own kids. 120 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:41,039 Speaker 1: And I'm like, I know, I understand. Every year I 121 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:44,039 Speaker 1: come to Canada and I'm around my friend's kids and 122 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:47,359 Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, these kids could give all my friends 123 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: in LA's kids a real run for their fucking money. 124 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,839 Speaker 2: It's because we just say the Americans are coming. This 125 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 2: is what you have to do. Just pretend to listen, 126 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:57,800 Speaker 2: pretend to be polite. We got to live up to this. 127 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,880 Speaker 2: Just apologize a lot. Yeah, yeah, there's a good listener. 128 00:06:01,160 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: There's just a level. It's a very civilized society, and 129 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 1: I really appreciate that, especially as an American and especially 130 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: in present day everything that's happening. I really appreciate the civility. 131 00:06:12,920 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: And my friend goes sometimes, she goes, do you ever 132 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: get bored by how nice everyone is? And I was like, 133 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 1: that's a very interesting question. Do I get bored with 134 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: people being. 135 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: Because we're also not just like Canadians are fucking funny. 136 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: The Canadians have a good time. 137 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's yeah. All the good stuff is in Canada, 138 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 1: believe me. That's why. That's another component of my ability 139 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: to stay here. So you're you're combining two things, people 140 00:06:36,360 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 1: who like to party and people who are nice. So 141 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 1: it's a jackpot situation. 142 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: And there's like often snow, Yeah, there's often snow. 143 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:45,200 Speaker 1: I just saw a picture of you. Here's something that 144 00:06:45,279 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: I'm not looking forward to ever happening in my life, 145 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: So let's focus it about it happening in yours. I 146 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: saw a picture of you and your new Newish lover. 147 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: You've had a boyfriend for about a year, right. 148 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:59,360 Speaker 2: Yes, Yeah, I met someone fantastic, which was so fun 149 00:06:59,400 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: and so expected. 150 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,279 Speaker 1: I love that. I love what everyone every woman always 151 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: says whenever we meet someone, we're like, it was so 152 00:07:06,360 --> 00:07:11,080 Speaker 1: unexpected because we're so not expecting to ever meet anyone 153 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: that we would fall in love with totally. 154 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,920 Speaker 2: And I had I kind of just started to try, 155 00:07:17,040 --> 00:07:18,880 Speaker 2: like I and I was like, I think I'm ready 156 00:07:18,920 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: to meet someone. I said to my friends, like set 157 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 2: me up with someone. And I would just be on 158 00:07:24,080 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 2: dates and be like is this I had no frame 159 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 2: of reference. I'd been twenty years. I'm like, is this 160 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 2: what it's supposed to feel? 161 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 4: Like? 162 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 2: This can't be right. And then I met my boyfriend 163 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,640 Speaker 2: and I was like, oh, oh, this is what its 164 00:07:34,640 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: supposed to feel like. 165 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 1: How did you guys meet? Do you mind my asking? 166 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, I got set up by my two best 167 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: friends they're both named Jen and my gen's were like, 168 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 2: you're doing a terrible job of this, so we're going 169 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,600 Speaker 2: to take this into our hands now. Like they were like, 170 00:07:51,600 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 2: you just have to try, like energetically, you got to 171 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 2: put yourself out there just go on the apps, and 172 00:07:55,280 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 2: I was like, I don't want to go on the apps. 173 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 2: That's way too terrifying, And so I had a small 174 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:02,400 Speaker 2: didn't trying on apps, didn't go on one day from them, 175 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 2: but just like I'm not, as you can see, super 176 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 2: technologically inclined, so I would get on the app and 177 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: Bumble has this feature that is like a privacy one 178 00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 2: where nobody sees that you're on the app unless you 179 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:15,400 Speaker 2: swipe on them. So I was like, okay, that feels 180 00:08:15,440 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 2: kind of like a nice, gentle, easy way to start. 181 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 2: I'll just do that. And when you buy that feature, 182 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,200 Speaker 2: you get a couple of other features, one of which 183 00:08:23,240 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 2: is called a super swipe. 184 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 1: Have you heard of the superstich in deduce what that 185 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,160 Speaker 1: might mean? But why don't you spell it out for us? 186 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 2: Well, I don't even know, Like I guess if when 187 00:08:32,559 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: a swipe just won't suffice and you're just like, I 188 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 2: got a super swipe on this person, right. Unfortunately, a 189 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 2: super swipe you don't actually have to swipe, just where 190 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:44,440 Speaker 2: your thumb naturally rests on the bottom corner of the phone. 191 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 2: You just hit it by accident, and it's like you've 192 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,719 Speaker 2: just super swiped on John, and you're like, what did 193 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 2: I just do? And so then you've told this random 194 00:08:53,640 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: stranger that like a swipe just wasn't enough and you 195 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 2: wanted to super swipe. And so I'm like, this is 196 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:01,200 Speaker 2: my first time logging on. I'm googling like how do 197 00:09:01,240 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 2: you get rid of the super swipe? And you can't? 198 00:09:04,200 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: And I find this like long spread on Reddit that 199 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 2: was like the only way to get rid of a 200 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 2: super swipe is just like delete the whole account. So 201 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 2: then I just deleted the whole thing. And I was like, 202 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: I'm not meant to do this, and so the geens 203 00:09:16,080 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: were like, Okay, we're gonna take this into our hands, 204 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:20,959 Speaker 2: and so they called someone they know on the East 205 00:09:20,960 --> 00:09:22,760 Speaker 2: coast and they were like, do you know anyone on 206 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 2: the West coast who is our age? Who wants to 207 00:09:25,960 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 2: date someone who is our age and who's great? And 208 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:31,720 Speaker 2: then we met and I had kind of like thought 209 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 2: about it, and I was like, I know that you 210 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:38,679 Speaker 2: can't ask for everything, so what would be like? I mean, 211 00:09:38,720 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 2: turns out you can. I feel like this person actually 212 00:09:40,520 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 2: does have everything, but I didn't know that. So I 213 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 2: was like, I feel like the thing that's like the 214 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 2: most important to me, is I want someone adventuress. I 215 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,559 Speaker 2: want someone who's up for it and wants to do 216 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 2: shit with me and wants to like have adventures. And 217 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,800 Speaker 2: I like way overshot that manifest because he is so 218 00:09:57,960 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: much more adventurous than I. Like, we'll go to do something. 219 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,160 Speaker 2: He's like, okay, so we'll also bring like the avalanche 220 00:10:04,200 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 2: beacons on, like totally totally. It's like my comfort zones 221 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: here and I'm like, right right, right, right right, which 222 00:10:12,040 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 2: is great. I mean that's how it should be. 223 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, totally, And that's so fun though, Like that is 224 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 1: such I mean, that's a total necessary thing for me too. 225 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 1: Like I'm all about adventure and it can be any story. 226 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,360 Speaker 1: It doesn't even have to be outdoorsy. It just has 227 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: to be adventure us in spirit, you know what I mean. 228 00:10:26,800 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 1: I love to travel. I want somebody who wants to 229 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: bounce around the world. I want somebody who can afford 230 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:33,840 Speaker 1: to bounce around the world. So I'm not bouncing them 231 00:10:33,880 --> 00:10:36,640 Speaker 1: around the world, you know what I mean. I want 232 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,080 Speaker 1: someone who's got their shit together enough to be able 233 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 1: to be like meet the moment. So it is like 234 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:44,720 Speaker 1: it's it's amazing that you think you can't ask for everything, 235 00:10:44,760 --> 00:10:47,080 Speaker 1: but why can't you? We can always ask for everything. 236 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: It doesn't mean you're gonna get everything, but it sounds 237 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,080 Speaker 1: like you've gotten a lot and more than you ask 238 00:10:52,160 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 1: for except for this fishing. Why do you like fishing? 239 00:10:57,200 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 2: Okay? I actually so, my son got me into fishing. 240 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 2: I mean, do I like fishing? 241 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,840 Speaker 1: There's the answer right there. I mean, I think you 242 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:07,319 Speaker 1: gave us the answer. 243 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 2: The answer, And there's a lot of like I get 244 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:13,520 Speaker 2: really motion sickness in I give ocean sick in boats. 245 00:11:13,559 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 2: And so if it's like fishing, you're not moving in 246 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: the boat, you're just sitting. So then you're riding the 247 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 2: waves and like a calm it's much worse. If it's 248 00:11:22,720 --> 00:11:26,679 Speaker 2: a calm day, I'm okay, but otherwise it's hard. I like, 249 00:11:27,520 --> 00:11:29,720 Speaker 2: I like the excitement of the moment where you catch 250 00:11:29,720 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: a fish. That's like very exciting, but obviously there's hours 251 00:11:32,400 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: where you're often not catching. But I like the snacks, 252 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,559 Speaker 2: I like the hanging out. There's like all these fishing 253 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 2: rituals and superstitions, Like you know, if there's a certain 254 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: song playing when you catch, then you have to keep 255 00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 2: playing that song. So I've been in a boat with 256 00:11:48,080 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: my son where we have to play can I Kick 257 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 2: It by Tribe call Quest for four hours straight? Because 258 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 2: that's you know, the last song that there was a 259 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 2: fish cut. It's meditative. There's definitely meditative aspect to it. 260 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 2: There's like I feel like it teaches patience and. 261 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, a little too much patience for my I need 262 00:12:08,200 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: more patience. But that's like beyond my I can't even 263 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: with fish. I just can't. 264 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 2: I mean I do want to. I don't want to 265 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:17,040 Speaker 2: oversell myself as a fish like old fish often, like 266 00:12:17,120 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 2: I probably go fishing once a year. 267 00:12:18,960 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 1: Well, what's so funny is that the picture that I 268 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:22,480 Speaker 1: was looking at when I was like looking at our 269 00:12:22,520 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: notes for you, I was looking at this picture of 270 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: this guy you standing there with a fish, and I'm like, 271 00:12:26,679 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 1: that's so funny because if you took your head out 272 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:30,960 Speaker 1: of there, this would be a guy's dating app picture. 273 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:33,199 Speaker 1: Like you know when you go on these half of 274 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: them are holding fucking giant bass and you're like, wait, 275 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: what are you trying to attract like another fisher woman, 276 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:40,720 Speaker 1: because good luck with that. There's not many of us 277 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 1: out there. It's like, unless you're in the Arctic Circle, 278 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 1: maybe I don't know who's into that. 279 00:12:46,559 --> 00:12:51,160 Speaker 2: You know, there's always a fish or there's obviously a 280 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: puppy who's usually not theirs with the dog, there's a 281 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 2: borrowed puppy from a neighbor. 282 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,200 Speaker 3: It's like the picture with their ex cropped out, like 283 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 3: you can see just like a shoulder. 284 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: I know, I love that. 285 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: That is so funny, and maybe they're going like this, 286 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 2: like I've seen pictures. 287 00:13:07,120 --> 00:13:10,839 Speaker 1: I've seen pictures of myself on people's dating sites, like 288 00:13:11,000 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: I like random people that I don't know that have 289 00:13:14,440 --> 00:13:16,680 Speaker 1: had a picture with me. I've seen once, like a 290 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: mar Greade photo like something like that where somebody asked 291 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: me for and then they put it on their dating probom. 292 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: We're definitely not clicking on them anyway. 293 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: Sarah. Let's talk about what you're here promoting, because your 294 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:34,280 Speaker 1: guys are doing a reboot of Scrubs. Tell us about it. 295 00:13:34,600 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been so fun, it feels so lucky and 296 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: so crazy. I mean, it was my favorite job and 297 00:13:39,200 --> 00:13:40,719 Speaker 2: we did it twenty five years ago, and. 298 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: I got twenty five years ago. 299 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty five years ago, got. 300 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 1: It and really just remake anything at any time. That's amazing. 301 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 2: You can't like, and we always thought like that would 302 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: be really fun. Over the last decade, we've talked about 303 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:54,560 Speaker 2: it a bit, but I don't think any of us 304 00:13:54,600 --> 00:13:55,760 Speaker 2: thought that it was going to come back and we 305 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:57,400 Speaker 2: were going to do it in this way as a 306 00:13:57,440 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 2: show again on primetime on ABC talked about like, oh, 307 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 2: if everybody's schedules collide, it'll be like kind of like 308 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,199 Speaker 2: psych did they did like a movie, And so when 309 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:08,400 Speaker 2: we started talking about doing it like this, it was 310 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 2: so fun. Obviously, the hospital we shot in was this 311 00:14:11,640 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 2: like old abandoned hospital in the valley's been torn down, 312 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 2: and so they rebuilt the sets and we thought like, oh, 313 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: they'll build it like it'll look kind of like the 314 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 2: old ones. They built it exactly the same. So it 315 00:14:23,720 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: was such a trip, Like I spent my twenties in 316 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 2: that ICU and that cafeteria, and the first day like 317 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:32,080 Speaker 2: stepping back on to these sets that were built so 318 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 2: beautifully and exactly the same, it was like it was 319 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 2: just such a trip. I felt like a step back 320 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 2: in time, Like the same people and the same character 321 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 2: in the same right and in the same sets. 322 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like a total retu narse, Like how fun 323 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: to get everyone back together again. 324 00:14:48,240 --> 00:14:50,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been so fun and we all like we 325 00:14:50,440 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: all loved each other and we still hung out and 326 00:14:52,360 --> 00:14:54,600 Speaker 2: went on ski trips and went for dinners and since 327 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 2: the show ended, and so you know, to kind of 328 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: go back to that dynamic on a set like we 329 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 2: I think you can, like you can hope when you 330 00:15:04,720 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 2: start on a new job that you'll all have chemistry, 331 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:09,560 Speaker 2: but I think you can't manufacture is history. And we 332 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 2: actually have twenty five years all together. And then they 333 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 2: brought in five new kids. They're not I mean, they're 334 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,480 Speaker 2: not kids. We call them Donald Zach and I call 335 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,480 Speaker 2: them our kids, not children, but we call them our kids. 336 00:15:19,480 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 2: There are there are kids there are you know, between 337 00:15:21,120 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: twenty five and thirty five years old, and they're like 338 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: so fucking funny and such good people. And so that's 339 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: been like a whole new addition to the dynamic. And 340 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 2: we had we shot up in Vancouver, which was so 341 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 2: insanely lucky, and we had Saturday night dinners every week 342 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 2: with the whole cast and it was super great. I mean, 343 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: to do a comedy, there's nothing like it being on 344 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,240 Speaker 2: a comedy set. Like I love doing all the different things. 345 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,760 Speaker 2: But there's something so specifically great about being on a 346 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 2: comedy set that's just like not replicable. 347 00:15:52,880 --> 00:15:55,120 Speaker 1: Well, that's how you started out on Roseanne, right, and 348 00:15:55,160 --> 00:15:57,360 Speaker 1: that was your first big show and that was how 349 00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: many years of your life? 350 00:15:59,440 --> 00:16:02,080 Speaker 2: That was four? So I joined in season six? 351 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:05,920 Speaker 1: Oh right, right right? You kind of replaced the other sister, right, Okay. 352 00:16:05,720 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, Becky she went away to college, so I replaced her. 353 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 2: So when I joined, I was I was sixteen years 354 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: old when I auditioned, and she had left to go 355 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:15,640 Speaker 2: to college. And so I got this audition. I like 356 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,440 Speaker 2: put myself on tape and like put a VHS tape 357 00:16:18,440 --> 00:16:21,160 Speaker 2: in the mail and it was for this like new 358 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,160 Speaker 2: series filming in nineteen ninety four, and they didn't want 359 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 2: to say what it was. And then you know, you 360 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 2: get a call back and then another callback, and finally 361 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 2: they said what it was for, and they're like, we're 362 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 2: going to fly you down. And the whole audition was 363 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 2: making out with Glenn Quinn, who played Mark, who was 364 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:36,960 Speaker 2: irish and gorgeous in eight years older than me, And 365 00:16:37,000 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 2: I was like, how am I going to remember anything 366 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: that I'm supposed to talk about? 367 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:42,080 Speaker 1: Sixteen year old? 368 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 2: You were doing sixteen. 369 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:45,240 Speaker 1: I was taking out with him for hours. 370 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 2: The whole the whole it was. The audition was like 371 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 2: probably twenty minutes. And because we did it a few times, 372 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:52,480 Speaker 2: they had it on the set. They wanted to put 373 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 2: in all the factors to see if you could keep 374 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: your focus. So they had four cameras and they were 375 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,240 Speaker 2: calling out camera numbers. They had a laugh track. They 376 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 2: had like someone directing it, Gail Mancuso, who's now one 377 00:17:03,960 --> 00:17:05,320 Speaker 2: of our main scrubs directors. 378 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 1: Oh, she's the best. I've worked with her before. She's 379 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: so she's a legend. 380 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:11,720 Speaker 2: She's legend, so cool, she's a legend. She and she 381 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 2: directed you know, a ton of our og scrubs and 382 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 2: came back this last season to direct more scrubs. And 383 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:19,439 Speaker 2: she's the one that gave me my first job, you know, 384 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 2: one hundred years ago. So I'm doing the scene with 385 00:17:22,119 --> 00:17:24,640 Speaker 2: Glenn and the whole scene is like baby, baby Camure, 386 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:25,960 Speaker 2: and I'm like, get a job at the gas station. 387 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:27,359 Speaker 2: She's like baby Camure. I'm like, get a job at 388 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,000 Speaker 2: the gas station. And we're just making out. And that's 389 00:17:29,040 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 2: like the audition, and then they were like we'll tell 390 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,439 Speaker 2: you in seven days. And then the night before they 391 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 2: were going to tell us, they said, okay, it's down 392 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: to four of you. Now come back an audition with Roseanne, 393 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 2: and so I did. And the audition was like on 394 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:41,840 Speaker 2: the couch and then you have to make. 395 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: Rone You're like, all right, this is very much. 396 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:48,199 Speaker 2: This takes a turn. This. I was not signing up 397 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: for this books Google. And she was like how old 398 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,719 Speaker 2: are you? And I was like, I'm sixteen and all 399 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,000 Speaker 2: the other girls were twenty one and she was like, no, 400 00:17:56,160 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 2: how old are you really? And I was like the 401 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,040 Speaker 2: idea of lying about my age would never have occurred 402 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 2: to me. I was like, I'm sixteen. And they were 403 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,879 Speaker 2: worried that, you know, because Sarah and Licy had both 404 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 2: left to go to college, that I would also since 405 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:10,080 Speaker 2: I was the youngest girl auditioning, that I would do that. 406 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 2: So Tom Arnold called me at my house after the 407 00:18:12,440 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 2: audition and he's like, so college, Like what do you 408 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 2: think about? What do you think about college? And I 409 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 2: was like no, no college, no, thank you, gross, none 410 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 2: for me. And even though I knew I would go eventually, 411 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:22,520 Speaker 2: I wasn't going to do it then. I could do 412 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 2: it later. And so I found out that I had 413 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:30,760 Speaker 2: the job, and then the craziest thing happened. I went 414 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 2: to a party that night and I told a couple 415 00:18:33,760 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 2: people it sounded like the weirdest lie because it's a 416 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,240 Speaker 2: time when it was like nine shows on television, and 417 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,040 Speaker 2: you know, it was the number one show at the time, 418 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 2: and it was like saying, I'm going to go be 419 00:18:44,359 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 2: on that show and play that person. I mean, it 420 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 2: made no sense. And then it spread around our high school. 421 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 2: And then on Monday morning, I get a call from 422 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 2: the Roseanne Show and they're like, we're having cold feet 423 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 2: about doing this. We don't know if we're going to 424 00:18:57,200 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 2: do it. If we do it, it'll be you, but 425 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:00,439 Speaker 2: we're going to put you on hold for for months. 426 00:19:01,200 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: And I thought, oh my god, my ass is grass 427 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 2: at high school. If this doesn't happen, I'm forever going 428 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,199 Speaker 2: to be like the weirdo who lied about going to 429 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:10,640 Speaker 2: be Becky on the Rosan Show. 430 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:13,480 Speaker 1: That is so funny. I actually did that for real. 431 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 1: When I was in elementary school, I lied to my 432 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: whole class in order to gain some more respect from 433 00:19:18,600 --> 00:19:20,920 Speaker 1: my peers because I didn't feel like they respected me enough, 434 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:22,439 Speaker 1: and I told them that I was going to be 435 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: in this sequel to Private Benjamin, playing Goldie Han's daughter 436 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,040 Speaker 1: as her daughter. I wrote about this in my very 437 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: first book, and I was like telling people. I was like, oh, yeah, 438 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 1: I had a screen test with Goldie Han. We have 439 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: so much chemistry. I was like, you guys better start 440 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,800 Speaker 1: respecting me now because I'm going to be famous and 441 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 1: then you're gonna regret that you weren't nice to me. 442 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: And it went all around school and everyone's coming up 443 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: to me asking me all sorts of questions, and then like, obviously, 444 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 1: nothing ever happened. So I just had to keep like postponing, 445 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:48,159 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, it's going to be a summer shoot. 446 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: I had all the lingo down, and then finally I 447 00:19:50,920 --> 00:19:53,119 Speaker 1: was like, oh, they decided to go in a different direction. Meanwhile, 448 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: there was no fucking sequel to Private Benjamin. So eventually 449 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 1: I just eventually I just had to transfer schools. I 450 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: was like, this is dude emiliating. 451 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:05,440 Speaker 2: So we had we had a girl in our grade 452 00:20:05,480 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 2: do that too. She lied about being part of the 453 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 2: Mini Pops. I don't know if you've ever heard about 454 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 2: the Mini Pops. The Minipops were this like kids cover 455 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,439 Speaker 2: band in Canada that were so fucking cool. It was 456 00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:18,800 Speaker 2: like everybody wanted to be a mini pop. They would 457 00:20:18,840 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: release records that were just covers of like awesome eighties songs. 458 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 2: And so this girl came to school one day and 459 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:26,359 Speaker 2: she was like, I'm going to be a mini pop 460 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 2: and we couldn't believe it. We were floored. It was 461 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 2: the most exciting thing. And then she wasn't like it 462 00:20:34,720 --> 00:20:38,240 Speaker 2: wasn't true. And I just remember when this whole Becky 463 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,560 Speaker 2: thing happened. I was like, I'm going to be exactly 464 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 2: like the minipops. 465 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, girl, how is Tom Arnold? 466 00:20:45,800 --> 00:20:46,280 Speaker 2: Oh my god? 467 00:20:46,520 --> 00:20:47,000 Speaker 1: He was. 468 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,600 Speaker 2: He was great to me. He was very I think 469 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 2: ever since that kind of phone call, like he was 470 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: always really supportive of me. 471 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:56,040 Speaker 1: Oh, sorry, I didn't mean Tom Arnold. I met the 472 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: father that played the John Goodman. Sorry. I didn't mean 473 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,199 Speaker 1: to ask about Tom Arnolds. Who cares. I mean, I 474 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:04,160 Speaker 1: know Tom Arnold, I don't need YadA. Yeah, I want 475 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: to know about the dad because he seemed awesome. 476 00:21:07,359 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 2: He was, I mean, that was like crazy. He was 477 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 2: one of my idols at the time, obviously, and like 478 00:21:13,040 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 2: now I was working with him in my dressing room, 479 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: was right beside him and I was. I mean, I 480 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 2: had no business being there. I had literally never worked 481 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 2: except for on a couple of Canadian productions where I 482 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,480 Speaker 2: would like answer the phone in a movie and be 483 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,439 Speaker 2: like mom phone. And that was like the totality of 484 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,560 Speaker 2: my body of work before having gone onto that set. 485 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 2: And then it was like John Goodman, Laurie Metcalf, Sarah Gilbert, 486 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 2: Johnny Gallechi, Sandra Bernhardt, Fred Willard, like the craziest group. 487 00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 2: ID just sit there and watch. But John Goodman was 488 00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 2: so kind, like he was he went out of his 489 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:51,119 Speaker 2: way to kind of like make me feel okay, you know, 490 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: like he'd be like, hey, kid, how you doing, And 491 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,919 Speaker 2: he didn't do that. And then obviously just to like 492 00:21:56,040 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: watch him work and what he would do with a 493 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 2: script from the Monday morning table read till the Thursday 494 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,920 Speaker 2: night tape night and try different things, and I would 495 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 2: just kind of watch him and he's one of the 496 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 2: most Yeah, he's just so talented. 497 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: So that was a great preparation for you for Scrubs, right, 498 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that was kind of like college for Scrubs. 499 00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,760 Speaker 2: It was. It was college for Scrubs, but it's like 500 00:22:19,800 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 2: such a different experience, Like I feel like on Roseanne. 501 00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,439 Speaker 2: I was so young and so new and so and 502 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,880 Speaker 2: it's different, such a different experience. I hadn't even really 503 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:30,919 Speaker 2: pre thought of replacing a character, and you're trying to 504 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 2: like fit into that mold, and luckily I was kind 505 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 2: of young and naive and didn't really understand it, Like 506 00:22:37,880 --> 00:22:41,080 Speaker 2: I didn't really think about the expectations maybe that would 507 00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:47,640 Speaker 2: be put on, like filling those shoes. But then in Scrubs, 508 00:22:47,640 --> 00:22:50,200 Speaker 2: it was when it felt like it was my first 509 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:53,520 Speaker 2: experience of like it feeling so creative because I got 510 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,359 Speaker 2: to really create the character. Like Bill had written this 511 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,520 Speaker 2: character that was I read it and I was like, fuck, 512 00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 2: this is so good. I want to be a part 513 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 2: of this so badly. The character description said moves and 514 00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:07,720 Speaker 2: talks at a faster pace than normal humans, and that 515 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 2: was something that I'd always struggled with, like everyone's always 516 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 2: like slow down in life in space to me too, 517 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:17,000 Speaker 2: me too, and it's hard. You just want to We're busy, 518 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:18,080 Speaker 2: we got to get we got to get all the 519 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: information out, and so I thought, Okay, this is like 520 00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:26,840 Speaker 2: my part, and then Bill ended up like tailoring our 521 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: parts and adding all of our own quirks and selves, 522 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,080 Speaker 2: like Elliott wasn't written as a disaster who fell and 523 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 2: hurt herself all the time. And then that was just 524 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 2: woven in very early on when they realized that I 525 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,719 Speaker 2: still had not figured out where my body was in space. 526 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 2: But that felt like the comedy masterclass, like getting to 527 00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: work with Bill. He would come to set every rehearsal, 528 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,360 Speaker 2: which is super rare from my experience, like I've never 529 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:53,160 Speaker 2: had that happen where the showrunner comes every single rehearsal 530 00:23:53,200 --> 00:23:55,600 Speaker 2: and comes up and goes like, Okay, you know, try 531 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: this differently, try these two alts instead of that joke. 532 00:23:59,119 --> 00:24:01,720 Speaker 2: See which one you know works the best. He was 533 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:05,479 Speaker 2: super collaborative and gave us so much freedom that is, 534 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,600 Speaker 2: you know, we'd get it once exactly as written, and 535 00:24:07,640 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 2: then he'd be like, oh, if this line says I 536 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: told you so, if you want, you can just do 537 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: like and I told you so song and dance instead 538 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,800 Speaker 2: if you feel like it. And so I feel like 539 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:21,679 Speaker 2: I got to learn like so much about comedy just 540 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 2: from watching him work and how he would take a 541 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 2: scene and if it wasn't working, he'd be like, Okay, 542 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 2: let's try this, try that, try that. It was so 543 00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:31,639 Speaker 2: lucky and so fun, and because we were shooting in 544 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 2: this like abandoned hospital in the valley, we felt kind 545 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,840 Speaker 2: of removed from everything, and so it created this interesting 546 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 2: dynamic of feeling like a very collaborative space, and there 547 00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:46,880 Speaker 2: was also like a real I think my favorite part 548 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,639 Speaker 2: about it was there was a real feeling that you 549 00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 2: could fail, like just try anything, which obviously in comedy 550 00:24:53,720 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: I think that's the only way it can really work 551 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 2: if you're not thinking about what you look like while 552 00:24:58,119 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 2: you're doing it, what you just like any of the 553 00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,159 Speaker 2: their factors. Just try it. If it doesn't work, they 554 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 2: won't use it. And so we really were freed up 555 00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: to try anything. 556 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 1: That's awesome. I love to hear that. That's so like 557 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: creatively fulfilling. I mean, you know, to just to be 558 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: able to spread your wings and fly and have somebody 559 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,760 Speaker 1: just show you. Because that show was original and it's 560 00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 1: it's like it had it used devices that we hadn't 561 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,840 Speaker 1: seen before on those kinds of shows. 562 00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, it did, And I remember thinking that when I 563 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,800 Speaker 2: read the script, like I I was like, oh, I 564 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,640 Speaker 2: haven't seen anything like this. And I had just moved 565 00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:33,199 Speaker 2: to LA with my best friend and we didn't know anybody, 566 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 2: and we never had was it one of the gems? 567 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 2: It was one of the gems. It was one of 568 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 2: the gens. She'd gone to film school at UBC and 569 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:42,480 Speaker 2: Vancouver and wanted to produce, and I wanted to act, 570 00:25:42,520 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 2: and so we packed up her truck with the most 571 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 2: random shit. It was like Steve Martin and the jerk 572 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 2: when he's like, I just need this mug and this thing. 573 00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:52,159 Speaker 2: Like we had, like I packed a guitar that I 574 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:54,240 Speaker 2: didn't know how to play, and we were going to 575 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 2: go for like a six month sublet, and then I 576 00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,880 Speaker 2: stayed seventeen years. But you know, Jen and I had 577 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,160 Speaker 2: plans to go to a concert and I got two 578 00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 2: auditions for the next day. And normally I would just 579 00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:08,159 Speaker 2: be like, Okay, I've got to work on these auditions. 580 00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,000 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm not cancling on Jen, We're going 581 00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: to the concert. I don't care. And I come home 582 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:16,440 Speaker 2: to this envelope, these two envelopes for these two auditions, 583 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,320 Speaker 2: and it's midnight and my audition for scrubs is at 584 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: nine AM. And I open it and I start reading 585 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 2: it and I'm like turning the pages and I'm like, 586 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 2: oh fuck, oh, this is so good shit. I like, 587 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 2: now it's the auditions happening in like eight hours and 588 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 2: fifty nine minutes. And I never opened the other envelope. 589 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,439 Speaker 2: I have no idea what that audition was. And I 590 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 2: just worked for a couple of hours and then got 591 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,719 Speaker 2: some sleep and went and read for casting, and they 592 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: were like, can you come back in a few hours 593 00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 2: and read for Bill? But yeah, I remember reading the 594 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,240 Speaker 2: script thinking like, oh, this is so different and like 595 00:26:48,280 --> 00:26:50,840 Speaker 2: you said, using devices we hadn't seen. And I loved 596 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: the pace of it. And I laughed out loud reading 597 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 2: the script, which was so rare, and. 598 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: I love it. I love that. I love that you 599 00:26:58,560 --> 00:26:59,960 Speaker 1: get to I mean, like, who would have ever thought 600 00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,840 Speaker 1: like all of these shows and all of these successful 601 00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,199 Speaker 1: series would be rebooted. Like if someone told you when 602 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: you were doing it the first time, you're going to 603 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:09,120 Speaker 1: be doing this again twenty five years later, nobody would 604 00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 1: be like, I'm not even going to be alive, then 605 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:11,880 Speaker 1: there's no. 606 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:17,960 Speaker 2: Chance, totally totally. Who's fifty? Like that sound like what? Yeah? 607 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 1: Exactly? What about Okay, let's talk about being fifty. Let's 608 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: talk about like that age, because it's not what I 609 00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: expected at all. It's like so much better. It's so 610 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,520 Speaker 1: much like you know, I feel so much younger than 611 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 1: I ever thought I would feel. I feel younger than 612 00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: I felt when I was in my thirties. But let's 613 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 1: talk about advice that you've been given, good or bad, 614 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,960 Speaker 1: that has had an impact on your life. 615 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, first of all, I completely agree with you. Like, 616 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:44,040 Speaker 2: I'm turning fifty this coming August, and I mean, if 617 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 2: you were to say, like, how old do you like, 618 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,440 Speaker 2: I feel like I my brain stopped at like thirty three, 619 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: I think is the age that I always think I am. 620 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:55,880 Speaker 2: And Yeah, to have had this lucky career I'm very 621 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: grateful for because it has allowed me to be able 622 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,119 Speaker 2: to raise my kids. You know, like when you're when 623 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:03,359 Speaker 2: you're working, you're working hard, but then you have these 624 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:05,159 Speaker 2: chunks of time where you're off and you can be 625 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:09,440 Speaker 2: totally present and do that. In terms of advice that 626 00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 2: I've been given that's been good. 627 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: Or bad or bad, we like bad advice too. 628 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:15,879 Speaker 2: We like bad advice. Okay, I'll start with good. My 629 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 2: dad's favorite expression was the best time to plant apple 630 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 2: orchard was twenty five years ago. The second best time 631 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 2: is today. And I feel like that he told us 632 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 2: when we were little. I think about it often because 633 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 2: it's like anytime I'm like, okay, it's too late, Like 634 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,159 Speaker 2: I think through your whole life, you always feel like, 635 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 2: oh fuck, is it too late? Is it too late 636 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,119 Speaker 2: to do this? And it's like never too late, Like 637 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: it's actually never too late, Like I wonder. 638 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,680 Speaker 1: We just had this conversation, me and three girlfriends. We 639 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: were just talking about this and like the idea of ascension, 640 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: like we are always ascending. Like just because something hasn't 641 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,600 Speaker 1: happened yet doesn't mean it's going to happen. It's not 642 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 1: going to happen because of your age. Your age is 643 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:56,840 Speaker 1: not preventative of what your desires are. It's actually an enhancement. 644 00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 1: It makes it more likely to happen because it's still 645 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: on your mind. And like, oh I was gonna do that, 646 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: and I didn't do it before I turned fifty. That 647 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: means it's gonna be even better when you do do 648 00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: it after fifty, not that it's not happening. 649 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:11,000 Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And exactly when you do it, you're 650 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:12,280 Speaker 2: like really gonna do it, and you're gonna do it 651 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 2: at a time in your life that you're ready to 652 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,520 Speaker 2: do it. Like I was like, I want to learn 653 00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 2: how to play an instrument. I'm like it too late, 654 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:17,960 Speaker 2: and I was like, no, it's not too late. 655 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not exactly. We were just talking about this 656 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,200 Speaker 1: and I was like, got you know, oh, if I 657 00:29:22,200 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: don't do this by that time I'm thirty or the 658 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: time I'm forty, and that's like such backwards thinking. It's like, oh, 659 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: this now that I'm this experience, this much wiser and 660 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,640 Speaker 1: I'm this much smarter, I'm not going to even fuck 661 00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: this up when it does happen, you know, Like I'm tuned. 662 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 2: In now totally. And I feel like even with like skiing, 663 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,680 Speaker 2: you know, like I was like the other day, I 664 00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 2: was like I want to go take some more lessons 665 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: and kind of like bring my skiing to the next stage, 666 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: because like I grew up skiing my first job, I 667 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 2: was a ski instructor, and then I took My kids 668 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 2: are six years apart, so I feel like I spent like, 669 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: you know, they were in between my skis when they 670 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 2: were one and a half and then on the harness 671 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,160 Speaker 2: and then kind of like everyone else is going off 672 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: and doing the real runs and you're like on the 673 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,800 Speaker 2: little ones for and then I had another kid and 674 00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,880 Speaker 2: they did, so I feel like I took such a 675 00:30:06,920 --> 00:30:09,000 Speaker 2: long chunk off of like really skiing, and when I 676 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 2: went back to it, I was like, oh, I feel 677 00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,520 Speaker 2: like I'm skiing with the technique of like the old 678 00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 2: equipment and the old technology and those skis that weren't 679 00:30:16,280 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 2: shaped and so right. 680 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,600 Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, I get that. 681 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just feel like having like a just in 682 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 2: general open mind to like it's never too late, it's 683 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 2: never too late to try anything. I feel like in 684 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 2: so many aspects of my life, I feel like things 685 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: are just the best they've been or taking off, Like 686 00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 2: in the relationship that I'm in has been so fun 687 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:40,840 Speaker 2: and so fulfilling and so interesting to you know, have 688 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,000 Speaker 2: so much in common and so like, Yeah, I feel 689 00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:47,520 Speaker 2: like in all aspects it feels like fifty is amazing. 690 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like you're peaking. But I don't even believe 691 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 1: in peaking either, because we're ascending. That's what we're calling it. 692 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,680 Speaker 1: We're ascending until we die. We are in a sense, 693 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,000 Speaker 1: and what that means we just keep getting better and 694 00:30:58,040 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: better and better, Like it is a ref fine, beautiful thing. 695 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,920 Speaker 1: Like I am totally down with that. I can't believe 696 00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: the garbage we've been listening to our whole lives or 697 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: are absorbing just kind of this narrative that's just not true. Anyway, 698 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,120 Speaker 1: Let's move on to callers before we run out of time. Catherine, Sorry, 699 00:31:14,160 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: we got caught up in this level conversation. 700 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:18,080 Speaker 2: I'm going to think of that about a sension that's 701 00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 2: gonna be nice. 702 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:21,840 Speaker 1: Yes, please, yes, do it. Let's spread spread that messaging. 703 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: Women need to hear this. 704 00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 2: Well. 705 00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: Our first caller today is l And this is not 706 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 3: a question about baseball. It's a question about struggling through setbacks. 707 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:38,600 Speaker 3: So El says, you're Chelsea. My son is sixteen and 708 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,840 Speaker 3: struggles to process setbacks and perceived failure. He's at the 709 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 3: top of his class, takes multiple ap courses, and thrives 710 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 3: in academic environments, even though he claims his classes are boring. 711 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 3: Many things in life come easily to him, except baseball setbacks. 712 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 3: He's been playing baseball since he was about five, and 713 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 3: even after entering high school, he was often the strongest 714 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,880 Speaker 3: player on his team. He's currently on a competitive travel team, 715 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 3: so the level of play is higher and he has 716 00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 3: to work harder. In theory, there should be a healthy 717 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,680 Speaker 3: learning and growth experience, but in reality, any perceived poor 718 00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 3: performance sends him into an intense spiral of self criticism 719 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,480 Speaker 3: and frustration that can last for hours. But baseball doesn't 720 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,560 Speaker 3: allow hours to process emotions. The game continues and he's 721 00:32:17,560 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 3: expected to stay mentally present for his team. He becomes 722 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 3: angry with himself, his performance suffers, and this only reinforces 723 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,720 Speaker 3: the cycle. We currently have him in therapy, though he 724 00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 3: doesn't have buy in. He views his reactions as normal 725 00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:32,520 Speaker 3: teenage emotions, which, to some extent they are. Our goal 726 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,360 Speaker 3: isn't to pathologize his feelings, but to help him develop 727 00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 3: coping strategies so that setbacks don't derail his mood, confidence, 728 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,640 Speaker 3: or performance for the rest of the game and be 729 00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 3: on the field. We've tried a gratitude journal, which he 730 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 3: didn't take very seriously, and his therapist has given him 731 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 3: strategies to practice in the moment, but the cycle persists. 732 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 3: Do you have any suggestions for helping him process these 733 00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:54,320 Speaker 3: emotions in a healthier way? Are there any strategies you'd 734 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,720 Speaker 3: recommend that we might not have tried with gratitude? 735 00:32:56,920 --> 00:33:00,239 Speaker 1: L Hi, L Hi? How are you? This is our 736 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,480 Speaker 1: special guest, Sarah chalk. 737 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:02,920 Speaker 4: Oh, nice to meet you. 738 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:04,680 Speaker 2: Hi Hi. 739 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,040 Speaker 1: I have a friend who's staying with me right now, Whistler, 740 00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: and her daughter is in the same situation that your 741 00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: son is very successful athlete. Young had a like, you know, 742 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: bad day playing and was devastated by it, you know, 743 00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,080 Speaker 1: And I think those are all really natural emotions, but 744 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,360 Speaker 1: for a kids to like, if they want to take them, like, 745 00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 1: they have to get into like a championship mentality, right, 746 00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: Like if they're gonna really be successful at this, they 747 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: have to out smart themselves. And like, there's got to 748 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:36,960 Speaker 1: be a lot of books on this, Jamie, did you 749 00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:39,960 Speaker 1: say you knew about a book about this? She's I'm 750 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,959 Speaker 1: gonna have her come upstairs because we literally just had 751 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 1: this conversation about her daughter last night, and she's like, 752 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: it is what it is. She didn't have a good 753 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,080 Speaker 1: day today. She's just gonna have to deal with it. 754 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 1: That's the like the mentality of a champ Like if 755 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: you're you're gonna have to deal with your emotions and 756 00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 1: you can't spiral every time, and that's something that he's 757 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: just gonna kind of have to learn. This woman's calling 758 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:58,160 Speaker 1: in with the same thing we were talking about yesterday, 759 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 1: her son like flipped expiraling out when he has a 760 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: bad play and stuff. Do you want to hop on 761 00:34:03,280 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 1: and give her some advice? Here, this is my friend. 762 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,560 Speaker 1: She just happens to be in town. 763 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 2: Hi, beautiful Jamie, Hi gorgeous. 764 00:34:09,719 --> 00:34:09,959 Speaker 1: Hi. 765 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 3: So, her son is struggling with feelings of self criticism 766 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 3: and especially when he's playing baseball, and so like he 767 00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 3: needs tools to like quickly process those emotions. 768 00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: How old is he? 769 00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:24,280 Speaker 4: He's sixteen? 770 00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 5: Okay, I have the same thing of a fifteen year 771 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 5: old superstar softball player. So what I've learned from this journey. 772 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 5: I also played sports in college, and I wish I 773 00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,520 Speaker 5: had this information when I was in college because I 774 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 5: think it would have made me a better competitor. Is 775 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,920 Speaker 5: it's all mental? Everything is mental. Has he hit home 776 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 5: runs before? Has he made double plays? 777 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 6: Yes, well, he's gotten triples before. He's ever hit it 778 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 6: over and out of the park, right, he's made double plays. 779 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:55,080 Speaker 4: He's a really good player. 780 00:34:55,560 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 5: Yeah, but he's a perfectionist yeah yeah, And he's just 781 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:04,759 Speaker 5: criticizes himself when he doesn't perform right. So, Like, I 782 00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 5: think the most important thing an athlete can do is 783 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,399 Speaker 5: work on their mental game. Does he journal No. 784 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 6: I tried having them, Like Catherine said, I tried having 785 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,920 Speaker 6: him write a gratitude journal. This was last summer, and 786 00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 6: he we would go through what he would write in there, 787 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,640 Speaker 6: because at first, like he he thinks he's a normal team. 788 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 6: He doesn't think that anything that is happening with his 789 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 6: emotions is out of the ordinary. And again it's it's not. 790 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:34,279 Speaker 5: It's not it's how you can train your brain to 791 00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,359 Speaker 5: it's it's really a mental thing. So like my daughter, 792 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:39,120 Speaker 5: what she started doing, I mean, she wants to play 793 00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 5: D one, so this is all her journey. I don't 794 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 5: push her, this is her thing. But she started journaling. 795 00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:50,560 Speaker 5: So before she'll do hitting lessons, before a group practice, 796 00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:53,319 Speaker 5: before any sort of work she's doing, she'll put what 797 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,960 Speaker 5: her expectations are for the practice, and then after the 798 00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 5: practice she'll put in did she accomplish that? What did 799 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,879 Speaker 5: she need to work on next practice? And so it's 800 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:08,000 Speaker 5: always just like looking at what you've done and what 801 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:10,759 Speaker 5: you need to do right now. It sounds like it's 802 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,120 Speaker 5: all a mental thing. So that's what he should be 803 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 5: focusing on. There's a book called, I think it's called Champion. 804 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,399 Speaker 5: The Champion mind be the champion mind or something like that. 805 00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:22,240 Speaker 5: She started reading that she talks to a mental coach. 806 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:22,440 Speaker 2: Now. 807 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 5: I mean, it's so different from when I was growing up. 808 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 5: We didn't have anything. I was just like, if I sucked, 809 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,520 Speaker 5: I would just be in like a dark hole. But 810 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:33,719 Speaker 5: you know, and all the high end coaches all tell 811 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 5: if you watch any tiktoks or Instagram, they all tell 812 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,279 Speaker 5: the players like what we're watching. We don't care if 813 00:36:39,280 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 5: you're a baller. We don't care if you have one 814 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 5: hundred percent batting average. We care about your body language. 815 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 5: So if you strike out three times in a row, 816 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:48,879 Speaker 5: do you go in the dugout and bring everybody down 817 00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 5: with your energy or do you, you know, come in 818 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 5: and just realize what you did wrong and move on, 819 00:36:54,400 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 5: turn the page. 820 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:55,640 Speaker 2: You know. 821 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:58,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, And it's hard for them to pull back and 822 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,920 Speaker 5: look at themselves. But you're on a team sport. If 823 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,640 Speaker 5: you want to go torture yourself, go swim, go golf, 824 00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:07,280 Speaker 5: go tennis. But this is a team sport, So bring 825 00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 5: the good energy even when shit is bad. And what's 826 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 5: great about all this is it's such a good lesson 827 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:12,000 Speaker 5: for life. 828 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:17,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, I've done my way to drap on the knowledge. 829 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:20,080 Speaker 5: Yes, I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go warm my toes 830 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 5: for the Whistler Hill. Here's your host, Chelsea Hammler. 831 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: I really had to put her on the spot there, 832 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,480 Speaker 1: you guys, and she delivered. 833 00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:35,560 Speaker 2: That was late. I think what she said about like 834 00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 2: being a perfectionist is so true, Like and I was 835 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:42,440 Speaker 2: a perfectionist as a kid and experienced, you know, really 836 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,480 Speaker 2: trying to figure out how to go back to a 837 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 2: growth mindset, like I think I had one initially and 838 00:37:47,080 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 2: then as you work going back into the auditioning process, 839 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,920 Speaker 2: I really got out of that. And in terms of like, 840 00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:55,319 Speaker 2: you know, because I was a kid who like if 841 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 2: I was doing a project on Sri Lanka, I was 842 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 2: cutting every page out into the shape of an elephant, 843 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: Like don't do that, just travel later. That makes no sense. 844 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 2: And I, you know, in terms of team sports, like 845 00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 2: it's all I wanted. I just want to be on 846 00:38:07,120 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 2: a team, Like I would take any fucking team. I 847 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,839 Speaker 2: was like, I tried it for basketball, volleyball, the track 848 00:38:11,920 --> 00:38:14,000 Speaker 2: and field team. I was like, whoever will take me? 849 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 2: Nobody would, So I got used to a level of 850 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:21,040 Speaker 2: rejection that I think actually is why I ended up 851 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 2: being able to go into acting. But I think, like 852 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,600 Speaker 2: for your son and for the times of days that 853 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 2: doesn't work out, I actually think it's really true that 854 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,200 Speaker 2: you learn so much more from failure than you do 855 00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 2: from your successes. So every like if you're going and 856 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 2: you're hitting a home run every time, like, actually it's incredible, 857 00:38:36,440 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 2: But I don't think you're learning anything that's going to 858 00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 2: help you grow. And so because the reality is like 859 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:43,960 Speaker 2: I don't know if the goal for him is to 860 00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,600 Speaker 2: become like a professional baseball player or if it's just 861 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 2: to do it right now with his buddies. But if 862 00:38:48,640 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 2: he's out there and he's failing, it's obviously not failing. 863 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 2: But I mean, if he's not doing let's say it 864 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,000 Speaker 2: doesn't go the way that he wants, he's going to 865 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,479 Speaker 2: come out of that. And right now, like you said, 866 00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:59,080 Speaker 2: he's working through it and he's trying the gratitude journal, 867 00:38:59,120 --> 00:39:01,920 Speaker 2: you're trying therapy, trying all these different things. Those are 868 00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,280 Speaker 2: all tools that are going to serve him in every 869 00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:08,239 Speaker 2: area of his life. No, because none of us are 870 00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:09,560 Speaker 2: going to no matter what we do, we're not going 871 00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,000 Speaker 2: to go out there and it's not going to be 872 00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:14,719 Speaker 2: a successful day. All of the days most days, and 873 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:17,439 Speaker 2: I think like if you can, like just the fact 874 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:20,239 Speaker 2: that you're and him are aware of it and trying 875 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,920 Speaker 2: to work through the tools. I guess the other part 876 00:39:22,960 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 2: of it is what's the goal for him in terms 877 00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 2: of like does he want to take this the whole 878 00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,160 Speaker 2: way and if not, what is the best spot for him? 879 00:39:32,200 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 2: Like my niece played professional or not professional. She played 880 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 2: field hockey at a high level. She was on Team Canada, 881 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:41,080 Speaker 2: and when she stopped, her enjoyment of the game went 882 00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 2: like through the room. She's an incredible field hockey player. 883 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 2: But sometimes I think when you're a kid and you're 884 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 2: a teenager and you're dealing with all of the elements 885 00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: of being a teenager and the pressures of school and 886 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 2: all of that, like to take the pressure cooker out 887 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,120 Speaker 2: of it, and they can actually just really enjoy the 888 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 2: sport can be really cool too. I mean obviously that 889 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 2: balance with you know, yeah them pushing through the heart 890 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:05,959 Speaker 2: is probably the most important part. 891 00:40:06,440 --> 00:40:08,400 Speaker 1: But also, like I think what Jamie said is like like, 892 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,279 Speaker 1: for first of all, of course, the gratitude journal, like 893 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: most adult men are not going to do that, you know, 894 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,319 Speaker 1: so like if you could, if you pivot and make 895 00:40:15,400 --> 00:40:19,560 Speaker 1: a journal about journaling, like about his expectations, about before practices, 896 00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: about what he expects, and also emphasize that team component aspect, 897 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:25,160 Speaker 1: like you want to be a leader, you want to 898 00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 1: be a champion, then you need to actually get into 899 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:30,960 Speaker 1: like a kick into a different gear when you're disappointed 900 00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: in your own performance, you know what I mean. You 901 00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: can't bring other people down with you. I think that 902 00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,400 Speaker 1: will have an impact on him as well. 903 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,520 Speaker 6: Do you have any advice for when he's in the 904 00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:44,040 Speaker 6: moment when something doesn't go because like in his mind, 905 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,240 Speaker 6: even if he hits a pop fly, that's a horrible 906 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,920 Speaker 6: hit because pop flies are at his level of play 907 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 6: now ninety nine percent of the time caught, and he's 908 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,680 Speaker 6: just like now done for the game essentially, Like he 909 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:58,280 Speaker 6: was even ejected out of a game by the umpire 910 00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 6: for arguing a call. And it's just in the moment, 911 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 6: like I can get him to do I think like 912 00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 6: the because two hours after a game he's like totally fine. 913 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 4: He's like, oh yeah, I'm good. I'm like, but I 914 00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 4: need you to be good like in that moment, because 915 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 4: now you're just hurting your team. 916 00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 3: I don't know if you can get buy in on this, 917 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,640 Speaker 3: But meditating on a daily basis, even if it's like 918 00:41:18,680 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 3: five ten minutes, can help slow him down in those 919 00:41:21,239 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 3: moments so he's not like. 920 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:26,919 Speaker 2: Just having this super like fast reaction. It really does 921 00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:27,440 Speaker 2: help you. 922 00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,560 Speaker 3: Have a more measured response when when stuff like that happens. 923 00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:34,120 Speaker 3: And it doesn't even have to be like woo woo meditations. 924 00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:37,279 Speaker 3: It can be simple box breathing or counting to ten 925 00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:39,959 Speaker 3: with his breaths, or even just doing you know, really 926 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 3: short basic meditations on headspace or an app like that. 927 00:41:43,880 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: I think your role is just to really be a 928 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:48,040 Speaker 1: guide for to hear him when he is looking for 929 00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,920 Speaker 1: answers that you can help him to find those answers. 930 00:41:51,239 --> 00:41:54,000 Speaker 1: You guys will work together to find those answers. If 931 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:57,759 Speaker 1: he's disappointed in his own behavior and his reaction, then 932 00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,279 Speaker 1: that's an opening for you to go, Okay, we can 933 00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: figure this out together. I can help you this. This 934 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 1: study says all we have to do is meditate five 935 00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:06,799 Speaker 1: minutes a day. He's not going to like that either, 936 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:08,839 Speaker 1: but you can do it with him. You can sit 937 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,640 Speaker 1: there and say, this is going to help your brain 938 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: regulate so that when you are in that moment and 939 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,040 Speaker 1: you are feeling super reactive, you can pull back and 940 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,279 Speaker 1: just be quiet and think of your team instead of 941 00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,800 Speaker 1: thinking of yourself and your reactivity, and like just taking 942 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:25,920 Speaker 1: all those moments without being too kind of officious, because 943 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,839 Speaker 1: of course you're's mother and you care more about him 944 00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:30,279 Speaker 1: than anybody in the world, but just to be like 945 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,840 Speaker 1: this calming force around him so that he keeps coming 946 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: to you when he wants answers, so that you're the 947 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:40,120 Speaker 1: calm and he's the storm, and that he knows where 948 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,000 Speaker 1: the calm is going to be. 949 00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 3: And then just one more thing I want to flag 950 00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 3: all before you go, is if he is being really 951 00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:50,960 Speaker 3: self critical and irritable, especially irritable outside of practice, I 952 00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 3: would keep an eye on that because that can be 953 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:55,120 Speaker 3: a sign of depression in teenage boys. So just keep 954 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 3: an eye on that outside of base on two. 955 00:42:57,800 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 4: Yeah, definitely know. We're very aware, like he's putting a 956 00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:02,800 Speaker 4: lot of pressure on himself. 957 00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:04,799 Speaker 6: My husband and I tell him, like, you don't have 958 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:07,640 Speaker 6: to play, Like we're cool if you don't want to play, 959 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,960 Speaker 6: but he loves the game and he wants to play 960 00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 6: and he wants to do really well. 961 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 4: And it's like, oh, but it's hurting you. 962 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,160 Speaker 1: I know, but you know that's something he's going to 963 00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,400 Speaker 1: have to figure out for himself, Like there's nothing you 964 00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: can do. He's going to have to decide if it's 965 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,880 Speaker 1: worth the feelings that come with, you know, not always succeeding, 966 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: Like is it worth it? Are the wins like worth 967 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 1: it with the losses? And that's not something you can 968 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 1: make happen for him. You can only be supportive at 969 00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,319 Speaker 1: every turn and be like, Okay, you want to do this, 970 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:37,719 Speaker 1: We're going to support you. If you don't want to 971 00:43:37,719 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: do it, we'll totally support you too. 972 00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,800 Speaker 6: I know I've mentioned so we do have him in therapy. 973 00:43:41,840 --> 00:43:44,439 Speaker 6: Do you think finding a new therapist is that something 974 00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,319 Speaker 6: to do? Because the guy he goes to now and 975 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,279 Speaker 6: he's very nice and my son says he likes him, 976 00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:52,439 Speaker 6: but then when we drive to his sessions, he's like, yeah, 977 00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:54,680 Speaker 6: I don't really think I need this, So like I 978 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 6: feel like his buy in isn't that everybody? 979 00:43:57,640 --> 00:44:00,279 Speaker 3: Everybody feels that way on their way to therapy, Like 980 00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:02,319 Speaker 3: I don't need this today and then it's your biggest day. 981 00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: I would keep him in therapy and like, if you 982 00:44:04,760 --> 00:44:07,080 Speaker 1: can look for maybe some like a sports therapist or 983 00:44:07,120 --> 00:44:08,919 Speaker 1: something that's a little bit more geared to what he's 984 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: into in the interim, But don't take him out prematurely. 985 00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: Just leave him in so he has some sort of 986 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,760 Speaker 1: sounding board, but also in the meantime, look for somebody 987 00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,839 Speaker 1: that you can gear towards more what his interests are. 988 00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 2: All right, well, keep us posted. 989 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 4: Okay, okay, thank you, I thanks bye. 990 00:44:23,520 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: Al, thanks for calling in. Wow, that was like a 991 00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: triage moment. 992 00:44:27,000 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 2: You guys really like you guys and Jamie stepping in. 993 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,240 Speaker 1: All hands on deck. That was serious. 994 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:36,520 Speaker 2: Oh my god. I wanted team sports so badly. Like 995 00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 2: I finally said to the coach, I'm like, I just 996 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:40,400 Speaker 2: want to get on the bus. What's nobody signing up for? 997 00:44:40,440 --> 00:44:43,319 Speaker 2: And they were like, nobody does racewalking and I was like, great, 998 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,759 Speaker 2: I'm in. And so I was racewalking just so. 999 00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:49,840 Speaker 1: And were you racewalking all by yourself? 1000 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 2: Because it was like a few kids from other schools 1001 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 2: in the province. So I came second in the province 1002 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 2: because it was probably only two people. 1003 00:44:58,239 --> 00:44:58,600 Speaker 1: Yeah. 1004 00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:02,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, Well, finish up with our one drink question here. 1005 00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 3: So Nicky says, I'm a thirty five year old Canadian 1006 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 3: passionate about boycotting US travel and products when possible in 1007 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:13,080 Speaker 3: the wake of the current administration threatening to invade Canada 1008 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 3: and all this fifty first state bullshit. 1009 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 2: The problem is that I live in. 1010 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 3: The frozen tundra of Winnipeg and my husband wants to 1011 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 3: take a vacation somewhere hot while it's still cold. My 1012 00:45:22,840 --> 00:45:25,680 Speaker 3: husband is a wonderful partner and dad that works incredibly hard. 1013 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:28,000 Speaker 3: He's in his first year of being an attending doctor 1014 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 3: after fourteen years of training. We have two young kids 1015 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 3: and can only manage to get away for a long weekend, 1016 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,440 Speaker 3: and there are not many direct flights out of Winnipeg. 1017 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,120 Speaker 3: He would love to go to Phoenix, Vegas or Palm 1018 00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,680 Speaker 3: Springs since it'll be hot and. 1019 00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:40,560 Speaker 1: We can fly direct. 1020 00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:43,840 Speaker 3: He agrees with boycotting US travel, but also feels like 1021 00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 3: we need to live our lives a bit. So my 1022 00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:48,200 Speaker 3: question is do I make an exception to my boycott 1023 00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 3: to go on vacation with my husband, who absolutely deserves it. 1024 00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: NICKI no, No, find somewhere else to go or go 1025 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,160 Speaker 1: to asauna, like, forget about it. Your boycott is a boycott. 1026 00:45:57,680 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 1: I don't know temporary boycotts like you can things to 1027 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:03,600 Speaker 1: cancel them. It doesn't work if we're not serious about it. 1028 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,359 Speaker 1: So if you care about the state of the world, 1029 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:08,560 Speaker 1: you have to care about boycotting things altogether. And I'm 1030 00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,440 Speaker 1: believing I'm doing it in my own life, and I'm 1031 00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: doing it with all the people that I work with 1032 00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,480 Speaker 1: and the people that work for me in my house everything. 1033 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,280 Speaker 1: This is a consideration that we talk about all the time. 1034 00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,440 Speaker 1: It is serious business. So yeah, I mean also, I 1035 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 1: joined Noble Mobile. I got off of eighteen and T Verizon. 1036 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,839 Speaker 1: That's one good thing you can do. You can join 1037 00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,760 Speaker 1: Noble Mobile. They encourage you to stay off of your phone. 1038 00:46:28,760 --> 00:46:31,120 Speaker 1: They incentivize you to stay off of your phone. My 1039 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:33,160 Speaker 1: phone bills have been like thirty five dollars a month 1040 00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:35,640 Speaker 1: and I travel internationally all the time, so that's a 1041 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 1: great first step. Cancel chat GPT, please be on the 1042 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: only ethical anthropic is the only ethical like AI system 1043 00:46:43,880 --> 00:46:46,320 Speaker 1: that is available. So try to down get rid of 1044 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,480 Speaker 1: chat GPT. Like these steps mean things. These people are 1045 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:52,600 Speaker 1: making money and profiting off of our prison system, off 1046 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,560 Speaker 1: of these detention centers. They are making money off of 1047 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:57,879 Speaker 1: this all of these AI guys. So if you want 1048 00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,799 Speaker 1: to have an impact, you have to be serious and 1049 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:02,360 Speaker 1: your husband can go without his vacation to prompt springs 1050 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:02,759 Speaker 1: for the year. 1051 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:05,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, go to go to BC good Whistler. 1052 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I guess that's cool. By the way, it's 1053 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:10,920 Speaker 1: it's hot here, so you can come here. I'm sure 1054 00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,960 Speaker 1: it'll be It's like we've got the worst winter. It's 1055 00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:14,719 Speaker 1: like hot cold, hot cold, so by the time you 1056 00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:18,960 Speaker 1: get here it could be sunny exactly exactly. And I 1057 00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:20,560 Speaker 1: say this, I know that you're listening to this, and 1058 00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,200 Speaker 1: people are like, well, it's might be easier for you 1059 00:47:22,280 --> 00:47:24,560 Speaker 1: because you have more you know, privilege, and I have 1060 00:47:24,600 --> 00:47:26,839 Speaker 1: more money. It's it's listen, it's hard for all of us. 1061 00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: I use all of those things all the time, and 1062 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,319 Speaker 1: I have to be disciplined. I never go on chap 1063 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:34,840 Speaker 1: GPT ever ever, ever, ever. I barely use anthropic. I 1064 00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 1: don't want to even get into that. And I know, Sarah, 1065 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:41,520 Speaker 1: we've already discussed our limited technology abilities, so it's like 1066 00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:43,640 Speaker 1: it's hard for me, so those things are kind of 1067 00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:47,040 Speaker 1: not even that difficult. But I've I've can canceled streaming services, 1068 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: I stop using Amazon. Like we're doing everything we can 1069 00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,000 Speaker 1: to make sure that you make a dent in these 1070 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: people's bottom lines, because that's all anybody cares about. 1071 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 2: Is money, right, right, and where it hurts. 1072 00:47:57,600 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, So we'll take a break and we'll be right 1073 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 1: back to wrap up with Sarah Chalk. And we're back 1074 00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 1: with Sarah Chalk. Everyone can watch Scrubs? Where where can 1075 00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: they watch Scrubs. 1076 00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:12,759 Speaker 2: Sarah on ABC on Wednesday nights and streams the next 1077 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 2: day on Hulu Disney Plus. 1078 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, and Hulu Disney Plus is a perfect example of 1079 00:48:16,600 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: somebody who did the wrong thing and then corrected it 1080 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:21,440 Speaker 1: and did the right thing. So I canceled that prescription 1081 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 1: and then I re downloaded it when they did the 1082 00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:26,800 Speaker 1: right thing, so you can reward the description subscription was 1083 00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,280 Speaker 1: it did I say prescription? You did too much drugs? 1084 00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: That's a perfect way to go out with our scrub star. 1085 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:35,080 Speaker 1: Thank you, Sarah. 1086 00:48:35,160 --> 00:48:35,440 Speaker 2: I will. 1087 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:38,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna have to stay together at some point, Okay, 1088 00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: So I. 1089 00:48:38,480 --> 00:48:41,520 Speaker 2: Would love it. Yes, I was up. I was up 1090 00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:43,520 Speaker 2: last week and there was Yeah, there was like no 1091 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:46,960 Speaker 2: snow or you know, rained on snow. So I'm so 1092 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,440 Speaker 2: excited it's coming. And apparently it's like one hundred centimeters 1093 00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:50,319 Speaker 2: in the next couple of days. 1094 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 1: I know, I know, I'm not even I have to 1095 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 1: leave on Thursday, but I'm going to be back in 1096 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: the beginning of April, so I'm going to hit you 1097 00:48:54,600 --> 00:48:55,719 Speaker 1: up and see if you're around too. 1098 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:57,960 Speaker 2: Okay, I would love it. I want to hear about Finland. 1099 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,480 Speaker 1: Okay. Yeah, I can't wait to tell you. It was awesome. 1100 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: It was so beautiful. Yeah, Okay, have a great day, Sarah. 1101 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:04,839 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. 1102 00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,000 Speaker 2: Ok thanks for having me. 1103 00:49:08,120 --> 00:49:14,399 Speaker 3: The word of the week is officious. Officious adjective intrusive 1104 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 3: in a meddling or offensive manner, used to describe someone 1105 00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:23,040 Speaker 3: that acts more official than they actually are. Volunteering one 1106 00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,759 Speaker 3: surfaces where they are neither asked nor needed. Used in 1107 00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:32,200 Speaker 3: a sentence, the man spreading Man's planer was both meddlesome 1108 00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:35,799 Speaker 3: and officious officious. 1109 00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 1: Okay, guys, I am officially on my high and mighty tour. 1110 00:49:42,040 --> 00:49:46,520 Speaker 1: March twentieth is Denver, Colorado, March twenty seventh, Portland, Maine, 1111 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 1: March twenty eighth, Providence, Rhode Island. March twenty ninth, Springfield, Massachusetts. 1112 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,359 Speaker 1: April tenth is Chicago. 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