1 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,840 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to food Stuff. I'm an Eerie and 2 00:00:10,880 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: I'm Lauren bog Obam, and today we're talking about the 3 00:00:14,120 --> 00:00:17,439 Speaker 1: bread fruit, which is neither a bread nor no, it 4 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:20,520 Speaker 1: is a fruit. Well, it's a bundle of flowers. It's 5 00:00:20,560 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 1: a lot of things that you eat, a bundle of 6 00:00:23,239 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 1: flowers that you eat. I hope that clears everything up everybody. 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: At the end of the episode, I have never had 8 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:31,600 Speaker 1: bread fruit. This is the one that angry people will 9 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: write about, like, can believe you've never had it? Yeah, 10 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: I've never I've never had it either, So send send 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: away those angry emails. Actually, please don't join we we 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,640 Speaker 1: will have to rectify this at the first opportunity because 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 1: it sounds amazing and the story of it is fascinating. 14 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: Our sister podcast Stuff you missed in history class, did 15 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: an episode on it a long time ago? Uh in 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: a podcast booth far far away or in Buckhead? Yeah, um, 17 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: way back way back when Katie and Sarah I think 18 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: were the hosts. Oh wow, really yeah, that was a 19 00:01:09,160 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: long podcast away. And House to Works even has a 20 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:17,200 Speaker 1: small article about it, um which it would not surprise 21 00:01:17,240 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: us if ridiculous history eventually covered because it's a little 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: bit ridiculous. It is. They should. If they don't invite 23 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,600 Speaker 1: us to cameo on that, they then have some podcast beef. 24 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,480 Speaker 1: I keep going like, hey, guys, why haven't you invited 25 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: me back yet? And they're like, oh, we thought you 26 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: were busy. Oh man, the judgmental look on your face. 27 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: I can't believe they haven't quelled under the pressure. Anyway. Anyway, Yes, 28 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 1: the bread fruit, what is it? How it knew? How it? Goodness? Oh, 29 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: that's a very big question. It's a very big question 30 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 1: for a very big fruit. The bread fruit is the 31 00:01:57,160 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: fruit of a tropical flowering tree are to carpet al tillis, 32 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,559 Speaker 1: and it's related to the mulberry and jack fruit. There 33 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: are a couple other species under Artocarpus, and a couple 34 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,200 Speaker 1: of hundred cultivars of bread fruit. But basically the trees 35 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: range from eight feet in height that's about six to 36 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: twenty fours. They've got glossy green leaves. The flowers or tiny, tiny, tiny, 37 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: and come in these dense clusters attached to a spongy 38 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: sort of spear or or rod or ball. These flower 39 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: spears tend to look a little bit like corn dogs 40 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: or like ears of corn that have had all the 41 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 1: kernels taken off, or like weird, slightly oblong golf balls. Yeah, 42 00:02:35,560 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: I have somebody somewhere. It's one of those stories that 43 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 1: was told to me so long ago that I can't 44 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,640 Speaker 1: even remember who told it to me or who it 45 00:02:41,680 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 1: was about. But I know somewhere in my past somebody thought, 46 00:02:45,880 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: like a kid thought those little stalks bear things with 47 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: the corn dog looking things on the end. He thought 48 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,840 Speaker 1: they were corn dogs, and like, oh no, he thought 49 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: they grew in fields when to eat them, and was 50 00:02:57,840 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: in for us shock. That's that's an amazing it is. 51 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: Luckily they're non toxic. So yeah, And it's a memory 52 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 1: that to vaguely recall in the middle of a podcast 53 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:13,160 Speaker 1: that's delightful. Both male and female flowers grow on the 54 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: same trees, and the female ones will develop as this 55 00:03:16,400 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: cluster of thousands of flowers into a single compound fruit 56 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: as sort of like the pineapple, if y'all remember that episode. Like, 57 00:03:25,800 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: as they grow, all the flowers fuse together and form 58 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: the part of the bread fruit that is eaten. Um. 59 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:34,639 Speaker 1: The base of each flower fuses together to form the rind, 60 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,920 Speaker 1: and the resulting fruit looks like a like a spiny 61 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: or lumpy kind of yellow green ball or or oval 62 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,600 Speaker 1: that can range in size and shape from something like 63 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: a baseball to something like a human lung. Ah. That's 64 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:51,560 Speaker 1: what I like to picture, and I think abound fruit. 65 00:03:55,840 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: The bread fruit is also sometimes known as the tropical 66 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,920 Speaker 1: potato and is honestly fascinating. One of the interesting things 67 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: about it is that you can eat it at any point. 68 00:04:07,120 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: When it's immature, it has a flavor similar to artichoke 69 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 1: cards um. The immature fruit can replace vegetables and a recipe, 70 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:16,920 Speaker 1: and are often pickled or boiled. The mature, unripe fruit 71 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: can replace potatoes and recipes, steam baked, or boiled. The 72 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:21,960 Speaker 1: flavor at that point is something between a potato and 73 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: a plantain, but as it ripens, the texture grows more 74 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: and more custard like and can be enjoyed raw. It 75 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:31,080 Speaker 1: kind of reminds me of Durian, which we do have. 76 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 1: We're just oh yeah, yeah, we're waiting for the right 77 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: time and place. We are outdoor place. Yes, um yeah. 78 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:42,680 Speaker 1: It can be enjoyed raw or cooked. Um. Once it's ripe, 79 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,719 Speaker 1: it is also used in It's frequently eaten raw, but 80 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: it's also used in baked goods and other desserts. And yes, 81 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: I have heard it described as like a Durian and texture, um, 82 00:04:51,760 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: but not so garlic funky, not davor, yeah, sort of 83 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,720 Speaker 1: just nice and sweet, maybe a little bit tart, like 84 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:04,600 Speaker 1: maybe a little bit of pineapple kind of flavor in 85 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: there somewhere. M hmm. Yeah. Once it once ripe, it 86 00:05:08,520 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: does rot fairly quickly um, and researchers are looking into 87 00:05:11,600 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: ways to extend its shelf life by drying and shredding it. 88 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: Some varieties have seeds that are edible um and apparently 89 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 1: similar in flavor and texture to chestnuts that can be 90 00:05:22,600 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: roasted or boiled or ground to make a sort of meal. Huh. 91 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 1: And the male flowers themselves, as corn dog things, are 92 00:05:29,400 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: sometimes candied and eaten, Those corn dog things, you know, 93 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: those things, those things. Despite sharing the texture of a 94 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 1: potato and having a high carb count, the bread fruit 95 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:44,520 Speaker 1: itself is gluten free. Just about all fruit, vegetables, and 96 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: grains except for wheat, barley, and rye um, and some 97 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:51,440 Speaker 1: specific things like glutinous rice are gluten free m m. 98 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: And boy, how do you know they nutritious? Um? Calcium, copper, 99 00:05:56,000 --> 00:06:01,719 Speaker 1: fibery stuff, iron, magnesium, niacin, omega three omegas six phosphorus, potassium, thiamine, 100 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 1: vitamins A and C. A mere half couple give you 101 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:07,920 Speaker 1: five to ten of your recommended daily allowance of protein 102 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: and of your r D A of fiber. And Hawaii's 103 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: bread Fruit Institute of the National Tropical Botanical gardenless multitudes 104 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,000 Speaker 1: of ways to eat bread fruit in cashows in a 105 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: type of potato, salad, curries, pancakes, breads, fritters, chowders, dips 106 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:31,160 Speaker 1: of veggie, burger patte, chips, nachos, alongside corned beef in beverages, 107 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: in flames. You can also put it through a food 108 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: processor to make a dose substitute. Ah Yeah. Dried and 109 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,480 Speaker 1: ground bread fruit flour can be used to make everything 110 00:06:40,520 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 1: from like tortillas to bread to pastries, and it, of 111 00:06:43,760 --> 00:06:48,159 Speaker 1: course can also be fermented into alcoholic beverages of various kinds. 112 00:06:48,200 --> 00:06:52,279 Speaker 1: Of course, and if you weren't impressed already, the bread 113 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: fruit has other uses. The male bread fruit and leaves 114 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 1: are a great insect repellent when burned. The sap is 115 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 1: great for calking and as a chewing gum. I'm very 116 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 1: intrigued by that Oh yeah, it's it's like it's like 117 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:07,880 Speaker 1: a latex kind of stuff. Oh, the bark can be 118 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: used as a fabric, and fallen fruits and leaves can 119 00:07:10,480 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: be used in animal feed. So lots of things, lots 120 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: of things going for the bread fruit. Absolutely, If we 121 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 1: look at some numbers, a breadfruit tree can produce an 122 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: annual fifty to fifty fruits, which is one of the 123 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 1: highest yielding crops in existence. The fruit itself can weigh 124 00:07:28,240 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: up to twelve pounds about five and a half kilograms, 125 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: while the tree can reach five ft or twenty six 126 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:37,239 Speaker 1: or even bigger. I've read all kinds of reports about 127 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: they can they can last a long time and get 128 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:42,480 Speaker 1: pretty big. Um. And they are self propagating. Um. You 129 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 1: don't need seeds in order to grow new bread fruit. 130 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: New saplings grow up from shoots off of established trees. 131 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: It will take a few years for a new tree 132 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 1: to mature, but once it does, it will fruit four 133 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:57,760 Speaker 1: dozens or even hundreds of years. Yep. And bread fruit 134 00:07:57,880 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: is grown in over ninety different countries in the Pacific Islands. 135 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,280 Speaker 1: More bread fruit or grown per hector than rice, wheat 136 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: and corn. Dan dang, Indeed, that's so excited. I gesticulated 137 00:08:10,760 --> 00:08:15,600 Speaker 1: and hit the mic stand. It's that level of excitement 138 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:18,680 Speaker 1: in here, folks, it really is. We're going to get 139 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:21,680 Speaker 1: into some of the history of the bread fruit, including 140 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: a famous mutiny. Yeah, but first we're going to get 141 00:08:26,040 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: into a quick break for a word from our sponsor, 142 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:44,240 Speaker 1: and we're back. Thank you, sponsor, Yes, thank you. Bread 143 00:08:44,280 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: Fruit originated about three thousand years ago and the area 144 00:08:47,880 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 1: that is now New Guinea. In three D. Bread fruit, 145 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: along with coconut, sweet ptatoes, ginger, and bananas, around to 146 00:08:54,960 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: Hawaii via Polynesia as a canoe fruit. Ancient Hawaiians believe 147 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: the bread fruit to be sacred. They called it ulu. 148 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:06,440 Speaker 1: They planted so many breadfruit trees that some graves could 149 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:12,239 Speaker 1: feed seventy thousand people. The plant provided raw materials like wood, obviously, 150 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: but also was used for crafts and medicine, and bread 151 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: fruit remains a culturally significant staple food in the South Pacific. 152 00:09:20,480 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: U Are are still Hawaiian terms for the fruit used 153 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 1: today and um. The French Polynesians have a legend about 154 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,520 Speaker 1: a famine that occurred. A family of six was living 155 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 1: in a cave and we're desperately hungry enough, so they 156 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,840 Speaker 1: were eating ferns. The father, miserable at watching his family 157 00:09:39,880 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: wasting away, buried himself in the cave. Promising his wife, 158 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 1: he transformed into a tree bearing fruit to feed his family. 159 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: Sure Enough, when his wife woke up the next morning, 160 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: there was a breadfruit tree and uru tree uh. That 161 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,240 Speaker 1: area is now sometimes referred to as ta Uru, the 162 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:00,679 Speaker 1: valley of the bread Fruit. Some locals give a another name, 163 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: the Tree of Life. It spread throughout the Pacific Um 164 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 1: from New Guinea, and when the Europeans discovered it in 165 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:10,720 Speaker 1: the fifteen hundreds, they were amazed at the bread like 166 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:14,200 Speaker 1: texture and smell averse at bread fruit, hence the name. 167 00:10:15,080 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: Pretty Much all of the European languages use a word 168 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: for bread in their name for bread fruit. So about 169 00:10:21,920 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: that mutiny, Yeah, Well, first, before we get there, along 170 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: comes Captain James Cook in after making landfall into Heiti, 171 00:10:31,840 --> 00:10:35,960 Speaker 1: Cook and his companion Sir Joseph Banks stumbled upon breadfruit 172 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: and realized that it could be a useful crop in 173 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: places with similar tropical climates a k colonies that were 174 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:48,080 Speaker 1: producing sugarcane. Banks thought the prolific trees would be an 175 00:10:48,080 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 1: excellent and inexpensive source of food for the enslaved people's 176 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,960 Speaker 1: living in the Caribbean colonies. Yeah that we're making this 177 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:58,680 Speaker 1: whole sugar cacane thing happen. So convinced was Banks of 178 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: the value of his idea that he presented it to 179 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,680 Speaker 1: King George the Third saying quote regarding food, if a 180 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: man planted ten bread fruit trees in his life, he 181 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: would completely fulfill his duty to his own as well 182 00:11:10,120 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 1: as future generations. He requested a special expedition with the 183 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: sole purpose of retrieving breadfruit trees and replanting them in 184 00:11:18,640 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: the Caribbean and of Noe. Banks was the president of 185 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 1: the Royal Society at the time and a patron of 186 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: Q Gardens. He's sometimes credited with being one of the 187 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 1: architects of globalization. So big, big dude, Yeah, big deal, 188 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: big historical. His request was granted, perhaps not not not 189 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: his perhaps not um William Bli was made Captain of 190 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: the h M. S. Mounty in seventeen eighty seven, and 191 00:11:48,920 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 1: his mission from the Royal Crown to transport one thousand 192 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,080 Speaker 1: Tahitian breadfruit trees to the Caribbean with the intention of 193 00:11:55,160 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 1: using the highly nutritious and energy boosting food to feed 194 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: British slaves, but all was not well on the bountain. 195 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 1: One journal described Bligh as brutal. It took ten months 196 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: for the mostly healthy crew to arrive to Tahiti, behind 197 00:12:12,320 --> 00:12:16,439 Speaker 1: schedule enough that they missed their window for transplanting the trees, 198 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 1: so they had to hang around for another five months. 199 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 1: A lot of the crew, of course, found themselves Tahitian 200 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: mistresses when the time came to leave. A lot of 201 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,080 Speaker 1: the crew wasn't on board, but Bli made them get 202 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:34,240 Speaker 1: on board, literally unaware or uncaring of the resentment of 203 00:12:34,280 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: his crew, and some stories say that part of the 204 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,079 Speaker 1: problem was that Bligh was was rationing out a short 205 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 1: supply of water on board and like favoring the trees 206 00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: over the crewman, which led to not less resentment. Oh sure, 207 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: I can imagine. So the crew mutinied. Several men armed 208 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 1: with bayonets broken to Bligh's cabin one night, binding his 209 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 1: hands behind his back and bringing him up to the 210 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: deck wearing only a shirt. I demanded to know the 211 00:13:01,040 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 1: reason behind the mutiny, and the only response he got 212 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,280 Speaker 1: was I have been in hell for the last fortnight, sir, 213 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: in hell ah no okay um of note that Marlon 214 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: Brando played that guy in the nineteen sixty two movie 215 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 1: about this, and I really missed an opportunity to do 216 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:23,440 Speaker 1: a Marlon Brando accent. That is for the best for everything. 217 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: I would have had fun, but no one else would 218 00:13:26,160 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: have had fun. Yeah. Well, I could admit what accents 219 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 1: I can do and can't do. And this is really 220 00:13:31,720 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 1: not an accent, it's an impersonation. But either way it 221 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 1: would have been a failure for all to hear. You 222 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: can you can check out the film Mutiny on the Bounty. 223 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,120 Speaker 1: You can if you if you want to hear it 224 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,920 Speaker 1: for yourself, not through the filter of Annie, Yes, you 225 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 1: absolutely can do that. Boy and eighteen others were forced 226 00:13:51,360 --> 00:13:54,200 Speaker 1: overboard in a long boat. The mutineers sent them on 227 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: their way with some pork biscuits, water and six quarts 228 00:13:57,360 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 1: of rum. All thousand tree ease one into the water twist. 229 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I guess they were pretty bad about that 230 00:14:04,800 --> 00:14:08,680 Speaker 1: water rationing thing, if it's true, Like, screw these trees, 231 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: We're going back to Tahiti. Take that trees. And they did. 232 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:15,920 Speaker 1: But Bla and his many crew were wildly and what 233 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: is called one of the greatest feats of seamanship of 234 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: all time. They managed to navigate their ship through mostly 235 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:26,680 Speaker 1: uncharted water without a map or a compass to team 236 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: or making an early stop at one of the friendly islands. 237 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 1: That's what they were called, Not that the islands like 238 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 1: we're friendly, friendly because they weren't. No, because the indigenous 239 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: people chased them away with rocks and killed one man. 240 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: The crew decided to make minimal stops after that, and 241 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: food was strictly rationed two ounces of biscuit in a 242 00:14:45,160 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: little water a day, and now and then they got 243 00:14:47,680 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: some pork um every now and then they got some room. 244 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: The journey took forty seven days heavy storms, and they 245 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: covered six thousand, seven hundred one kilometers or four thousand, 246 00:14:57,760 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: one hundred and sixty four miles. They stopp that Coopong, starving, 247 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: sleep deprived, and that's where three of the crew died 248 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 1: of fever, not on the whole journey. They made it there. 249 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: From there, they made their way back to Britain and 250 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 1: commissioned a second trip, this time on the HMS Providence. 251 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 1: No mutinies were had, and five years after his first 252 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: mission failed, Bly succeeded, or mostly many of the two 253 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: thousand bread fruit trees on the ship died due to flies, 254 00:15:30,840 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: cold or the quote unwholesomeness of sea air six D 255 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,400 Speaker 1: seventy eight. Breadfruit trees arrived in the West Indies, and 256 00:15:39,440 --> 00:15:42,240 Speaker 1: a few of those trees, first planted two hundred years 257 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 1: ago in Jamaica, bear fruit to this day. Oh yeah. 258 00:15:46,400 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 1: The locals did resist it at first, though, eating it 259 00:15:48,800 --> 00:15:52,200 Speaker 1: only when other options were limited. It took forty years 260 00:15:52,200 --> 00:15:55,480 Speaker 1: for them to develop a taste for the bread fruit. Yeah, 261 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: the population of of Jamaica fed it to pigs at first. Um. 262 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:02,960 Speaker 1: To be fair, the mature but unripe fruit is kind 263 00:16:03,000 --> 00:16:06,200 Speaker 1: of bland and can be described as like neely um, 264 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,080 Speaker 1: and it can go pretty mushy if you overcook it. 265 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 1: Once you figure out how to deal with it. Though 266 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: apparently it's great, it sounds amazing. These days, scientists think 267 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: the bread fruit could be useful in the fight against 268 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:22,080 Speaker 1: hunger um. After all, there is a tradition in parts 269 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,320 Speaker 1: of Polynesia to plant a bread fruit tree when a 270 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,080 Speaker 1: child is born to guarantee that they won't go hungry. 271 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:30,840 Speaker 1: Since the nine eighties, a researcher out of Hawaii National 272 00:16:30,880 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 1: Tropical Botanical Garden in DBG Diane We're Gone, followed the 273 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: DNA bread comes of bread fruit all the way back 274 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: to parasite breadfruit. I mean the first they call it 275 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 1: eve uread f eve. I'm gonna try to get as 276 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: many parasite eve references in this show as I can. 277 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 1: I so far you are succeeding. Who knew you're really 278 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: doing it? Thank you, Laura, You're welcome. In two thous 279 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,480 Speaker 1: and three, Ragon helped found the bread Fruit Institute at 280 00:17:03,520 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 1: the National Tropical Botanical Garden, and yeah, the the institute 281 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: is partnered with the charity Aligns to End Hunger to 282 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 1: bring the bread fruit to areas in need. Scientists are 283 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,920 Speaker 1: also working to find the species that contains the most 284 00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: protein and also the ones that are most accepting as 285 00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:22,360 Speaker 1: salt as sea levels rise. Ragon and her fellow researchers 286 00:17:22,359 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: say that this one cultivar from Samoa surpasses soybeans in 287 00:17:25,840 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 1: terms of protein content and quality. And yeah, they're they're 288 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: hoping that this kind of research could help places like 289 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,359 Speaker 1: Hawaii that currently import over half of their food, become 290 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:39,680 Speaker 1: more self sustainable. In two thousand nine, Josh Schneider launched 291 00:17:39,680 --> 00:17:41,680 Speaker 1: an initiative to put bread fruit trees all over the 292 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: world called Global bread Fruit. The group put fourteen thousand 293 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:49,119 Speaker 1: trees in ten different countries in a Costa Rican native 294 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: Diana Chavez. It took some of the bread fruit from 295 00:17:51,560 --> 00:17:54,280 Speaker 1: the trees that organization planted and started making chips out 296 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 1: of the fruit and putting them in grocery stores. Yeah. Like, like, 297 00:17:57,160 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: fried chips are one of the most popular ways to eat. 298 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,960 Speaker 1: I mean, once you fry anything, it's pretty great. But 299 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: apparently they're super delicious. Apparently she gets a lot of 300 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: request for them. Now. Yeah, at first she had trouble 301 00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:09,679 Speaker 1: selling them, and now people are like, where are the chips? 302 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:14,920 Speaker 1: More bread froat chips? I need them in. Bread Fruit 303 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:19,919 Speaker 1: Institute partnered with the Global Hunger Initiative, which distributed trees 304 00:18:20,000 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: to forty countries over the next five years, and in 305 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,919 Speaker 1: the f d A ruled bread fruit flower safe for 306 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:29,920 Speaker 1: consumption here in the United States. So you might see 307 00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: it out there in your gluten free baking aisle. You 308 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:40,679 Speaker 1: you just might. So it's had a really fascinating just 309 00:18:40,840 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: story behind the bread fruit. Yeah. I yes, it's a 310 00:18:45,800 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: little bit more hopeful than a lot of the tropical 311 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,919 Speaker 1: fruits that we discuss on this show. This is true. Yeah, 312 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 1: and we've got a little bit more left in this 313 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:56,600 Speaker 1: episode today. But first we've got one more quick break 314 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:10,880 Speaker 1: for a word from our sponsor, and we're back, Thank 315 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:14,919 Speaker 1: you sponsor. Yes, uh so by a little bit more 316 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:23,080 Speaker 1: in this episode, I meant mostly listener male, Yeah, I 317 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:25,359 Speaker 1: feel like we were a jacking jack in the box now, 318 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: And I was like, are we cheerleading? Sure? We have 319 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: to communicate through body language, and sometimes the communication the 320 00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: message gets lost, but it's like a game of telephone. 321 00:19:38,920 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: I don't know, like I was picking up something what 322 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:51,919 Speaker 1: good question? But something okay? So Sarah wrote, first, I 323 00:19:51,920 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 1: did not eat a hot dog this Fourth of July, 324 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,239 Speaker 1: even though I really wanted to. I decided to make 325 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,360 Speaker 1: it my cheat day and take full advantage of it. 326 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: So I made ribbed dogs. Oh, basically just hot dog 327 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: buns with slow cooked barbecue ribs bone removed in them. 328 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: Oh no, yeah, And she attached photos and they look amazing. 329 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: The saucemeont on the buns was made of yogurt and 330 00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 1: was saby and yogurt and dijon. Any strong flavored condiment 331 00:20:17,520 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: mixed with yogurt can make a legit low cow dip 332 00:20:20,200 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: totally holds up. She also wrote in about the discrepancy between. Um. 333 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,800 Speaker 1: We didn't mention this because I totally forgot about it. 334 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:31,280 Speaker 1: But how hot dogs come in tens and buns comes 335 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 1: in eight. Um, But she continues, everyone who grew up 336 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,359 Speaker 1: in China is familiar with our version of hot dogs, 337 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 1: which I kid you not, is so much better than 338 00:20:40,400 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: the garden variety of Frank's Sorry Not Sorry. They're called 339 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: Ua twee chong, which literally translates to ham sausage. They're 340 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:51,719 Speaker 1: like spam made into hot dogs without the edible casing, 341 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:55,159 Speaker 1: but firmer and less mushy than spam. They come in 342 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: this red wrapper with a metal ring on each end. 343 00:20:57,920 --> 00:21:00,680 Speaker 1: This is a staple and literally every China these household 344 00:21:00,720 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: at least during my generation. They're good for everything sauteed, 345 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 1: thrown into whatever soups John being which are Chinese creeps 346 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: recently caught on here in the New York City food 347 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: scene known as being as snacks eaten just by themselves, 348 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:17,560 Speaker 1: picnic food, literally everything. I remember every time we had 349 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 1: a field trip or a family outing, these things were 350 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:23,159 Speaker 1: always there, and one of the most common uses that 351 00:21:23,200 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 1: will trigger so many Chinese people's memories is having them 352 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: an instant ramen noodles. It's as common as having cheese 353 00:21:30,200 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: on your burgers. The metal ring can be a challenge 354 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: to take off, so a lazy way is to twist 355 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: it in the middle as if you're ringing a towel. 356 00:21:38,040 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: It will divide into two little sausages, and the middle 357 00:21:40,640 --> 00:21:42,919 Speaker 1: part of the wrapper should be easily ripped. Then you 358 00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:45,040 Speaker 1: suck the sausage out of the wrapper bit by bit, 359 00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 1: like with freezy puffs, or eat it like a normal 360 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:52,680 Speaker 1: human being, peeling the wrapper off. And she sent us 361 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: some and we have them here in the studio. Yeah, 362 00:21:55,760 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: it's yeah, we got this package of these. Yeah, we 363 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: got them this very day. Correct, sometimes yes, soon ish soon, 364 00:22:05,920 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: relatively close to this time that we are which recording 365 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,359 Speaker 1: this episode. That was definitely a sentence, y'all, we're gonna 366 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: we're gonna please bear with me if we're going to 367 00:22:14,840 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: stick through it, gonna stick the landing stick. Yeah, thank 368 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 1: you so much. It's they're very brightly colored, and I 369 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 1: am excited to eat one. Yeah, there's a line on 370 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: the front. I'm excited to eat all of them. Actually, yeah, 371 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,479 Speaker 1: I didn't get a hot dog either for oh my gosh, 372 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: for Fourth of July, so I Okay. I mentioned in 373 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: the episode we did on hot dogs that I have 374 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: like two a year. I ran that race the Peachtree 375 00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: which is the fourth of July race, right, yes, and 376 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: I got I didn't know this at the time, but 377 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: I got heat exhaustion. I finished a race and I 378 00:22:52,160 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: got a really good time, but I got heat exhaustion, 379 00:22:54,560 --> 00:22:59,119 Speaker 1: and there's no food at my house, and I was like, 380 00:22:59,320 --> 00:23:01,679 Speaker 1: I could not get up from the couch. And my 381 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 1: friend went and bought me a package of hot dogs 382 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,840 Speaker 1: and she cooked them all and I just like, I 383 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: didn't put them in bunds. I just aged the hot 384 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 1: dogs like one after the other, and I think I 385 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: had six. It was a lot of hot dogs. Yeah. 386 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: I texted you about it. You did you did? Um? 387 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: I did you have a relatively enjoyable experience doing it? Oh? Yeah, 388 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: they were great. Well there you go see happy ending. 389 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I guess you kind of like made up 390 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: for my for my lack of lack of hot dogs. Yeah. 391 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: I suppose we balanced each other out. But we do 392 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,639 Speaker 1: have this now. We're very excited to try it. I 393 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,720 Speaker 1: can't believe I didn't. I probably did see these in China. 394 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: I just didn't know what they were, um, because it 395 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: kind of looked like cigars, sure, or like jerky, Like 396 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,680 Speaker 1: there might be more of like a jerky because yeah, 397 00:23:51,680 --> 00:23:55,879 Speaker 1: they're in these long tubes. Anyway. Yeah. A second Sarah 398 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 1: wrote in I'm a native Ohioan but spent the past 399 00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: year living in South Dakota. There was a restaurant in 400 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: the lobby of my office building that had authentic Skyline chili. 401 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:08,199 Speaker 1: For reasons entirely unclear to me, as nobody there was 402 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 1: from outside of South Dakota. They had a Skyline topped 403 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 1: hot dog listed on the menu as a chili dog 404 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: that I would sometimes order for a dose of nostalgia 405 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:20,480 Speaker 1: and indigestion when I was feeling particularly homesick. One day, 406 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,480 Speaker 1: they had a baseball special advertised on their board described 407 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,400 Speaker 1: as a coney dog with chips. They had been out 408 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,199 Speaker 1: of the chili for months, and I was so excited 409 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:30,320 Speaker 1: at the prospect of having a Skyline dog again that 410 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: I immediately ordered one. They asked what I wanted on it, 411 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: and I said the chili was fine. They explained that 412 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: they were really sorry, but they had been out of 413 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: chili and unable to order more for a while. I 414 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: questioned why on Earth, they would have a daily special 415 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,320 Speaker 1: based completely around a menu item they were unable to order, 416 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,280 Speaker 1: and they were baffled. They explained that I was still 417 00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: able to get a hot dog, I just couldn't get 418 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,720 Speaker 1: chili on it. Nearly half an hour later, we discovered 419 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 1: that they thought coney was just another name for a 420 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: plain hot dog and didn't realize it had anything to 421 00:24:57,359 --> 00:24:59,959 Speaker 1: do with a chili topping. I never realized I had 422 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: such passionate opinions about hot dogs until forced to explain 423 00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 1: that a coney is a very specific type of hot dog, 424 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,840 Speaker 1: and if you're advertising it, you better make sure it 425 00:25:08,920 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: has some kind of meat sauce on it or else. 426 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,119 Speaker 1: I was so scandalized, and my husband, a South Dakota 427 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: native who has been thoroughly educated on the delights of 428 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:22,440 Speaker 1: Skyline Chili, Cony Dogs and other Ohio delicacies, was so entertained. 429 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: That's pretty hilarious. I yeah, there's so many different types 430 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: of hot dogs. I wouldn't have known. I think the 431 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: subject line of this emiale was like a cony what? So? 432 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:41,840 Speaker 1: What exactly is a company? Anyway? Who knows? Apparently? Yeah? Yeah, 433 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: oh goodness, I feel I feel like the term cony 434 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,600 Speaker 1: in my research about hot dogs, could be used to 435 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: describe a number of different hot dog configurations, Like there 436 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: were like different regional Coney's, and I was like, oh man, 437 00:25:56,119 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna I'm not gonna touch this. Yeah yeah, 438 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,080 Speaker 1: I know. I backed away slowly from that one. It's like, 439 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 1: I'm going to get myself in trouble. Yeah, I from 440 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 1: this this message, I would say that's probably accurate. I 441 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 1: love it. I love how people have like, oh yeah, 442 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: it's beautiful. It really is. Yeah, and and and certainly 443 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: I've never seen the term coney applied to a plain 444 00:26:20,160 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: hot dog. So yeah, yeah, that was a risky a 445 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:30,679 Speaker 1: risky move advertising wise. Yeah. M But thank you so 446 00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:32,159 Speaker 1: much to both of them for writing in. If you 447 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 1: would like to do that thing, you can Our email 448 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: is food Stuff at how stuff works dot com. We're 449 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: also on social media. 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