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Speaker 1: Mother Knows Death starring Nicole and Jemmy and Maria qk.

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Speaker 2: Hi. Everyone welcome The Mother Knows Death. Let's get started

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Speaker 2: with the story of the week.

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Speaker 3: So we have some tragic news coming out of Kansas City.

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Speaker 3: On Sunday. The Chiefs won the Super Bowl. It's their

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Speaker 3: third victory and only a few years, which has been

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Speaker 3: a huge deal to this area. So yesterday they had

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Speaker 3: the victory parade for winning the Super Bowl, which most

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Speaker 3: cities have when the Eagles won a few years ago.

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Speaker 3: Me and my husband went. It was a really big

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Speaker 3: deal and really fun. So I think a lot of

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Speaker 3: people go to these parades just joy us, to celebrate

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Speaker 3: their city's victory and just have a good time and relax.

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Speaker 3: But unfortunately, at the end of the parade, there was

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Speaker 3: a bunch of gunshots, and it was pretty unclear until

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Speaker 3: The police department's pretty confident that it was an altercation

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Speaker 3: gone wrong between three people. Two juveniles and one adult

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Speaker 3: are in custody now for the altercation. As a result

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Speaker 3: of this shooting, one woman is dead, twenty two are injured,

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Speaker 3: most of them being children. The children are expected to recover.

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Speaker 3: But it's just really sad that such an awesome day

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Speaker 3: for people just had to end in tragedy and just

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Speaker 3: being scared.

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Speaker 2: I know, it sucks.

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Speaker 4: Like remember when the Phillies were winning, like when they

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Speaker 4: were in the World Series and stuff. It's just there's

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Speaker 4: this whole entire vibe in the city that everybody's just

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Speaker 4: And Maria and I were just talking about this right

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Speaker 4: before we heard the news of this shooting, that if

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Speaker 4: the Phillies won and they had the World Series parade,

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Speaker 4: I said I wouldn't go because I don't want to

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Speaker 4: be in a crowd of people like that.

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Speaker 2: It's just too scary for me.

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Speaker 4: And what happens a couple hours later, you hear the

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Speaker 4: worst thing ever happened, and it's it's a woman who's

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Speaker 4: exactly my age with little kids and or she has

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Speaker 4: two kids, I don't know if they're little, but innocent

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Speaker 4: kids getting shot. Like you go to a parade and

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Speaker 4: these people just decided to get in a fight and

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Speaker 4: start randomly shooting at each other in a crowd, Like

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Speaker 4: what assholes?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's it's really scary, so I don't know

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Speaker 3: if you watched the video. Somebody would just happen to

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Speaker 3: be taking a video of the parade when the gunshots

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Speaker 3: went off. And what was a huge red flag to

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Speaker 3: me is a lot of people don't seem concerned, and

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Speaker 3: I don't think you should panic and trample somebody. But

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Speaker 3: they're just some people walking around like Ladi da, nothing's

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Speaker 2: It was a parade. They probably thought it was fireworks

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Speaker 2: or something. I just don't know.

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Speaker 3: I mean, people were screaming that you could see some

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Speaker 3: people bloody on the ground. These these awesome, awesome people

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Speaker 3: tackled one of the gunman.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, husband and wife tag team. I think it's

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Speaker 4: like the best story of it all. My husband was like,

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Speaker 4: they should definitely get season tickets for the football season

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Speaker 4: next year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean, that's that's kind of ballsy to attack somebody

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Speaker 4: just just risk your own life to do that. And honestly,

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Speaker 4: at that point he probably saved numerous lives because that

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Speaker 4: guy whoever was shooting was clearly just not even thinking

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Speaker 4: that there were other people in the crossfire.

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Speaker 3: No, and they didn't. And I think that those people

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Speaker 3: are true, true heroes. I can't imagine being in that situation.

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of people immediately go into shock

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Speaker 3: cool and you see the video, I mean they take

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Speaker 4: It makes you It just like restores your faith in humanity,

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Speaker 4: you know. Yeah, And those people were so awesome. I

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Speaker 4: because it doesn't appear that these people were just went

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Speaker 2: I can't even think about it.

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Speaker 3: No, it's it's really scary and makes you not want

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Speaker 3: healthy way to live your life. But it's it's really

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Speaker 3: unfortunate that this day that was supposed to be really

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Speaker 3: And you know, if they win in years to come,

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Speaker 3: just really sad. Okay, let's get on the celebrity news. Okay,

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Speaker 3: So for those who are unfamiliar with Jeffrey Epstein, I

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Speaker 3: don't know who would be at this point because his

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Speaker 4: Really I didn't know what section to put this under

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Speaker 4: because I don't know if I would really consider him

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Speaker 4: was in the circle with all the celebrities, right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I wouldn't particularly consider him a celebrity, but I

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Speaker 3: do think we're right in category categorizing him as such,

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Speaker 3: just because he's a familiar household, not a household thing.

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Speaker 2: No he is. He is a household name, not not

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Speaker 2: in a good way.

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Speaker 3: For those that don't know who he is, He's a

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Speaker 3: disgusting pig, convicted sex offender. So last week when we

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Speaker 3: one of his DUI sentences over the weekends. And I

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Speaker 3: I was thinking, of my mind, I know somebody else

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Speaker 3: days later, only to realize that that was Jeffrey Epstein.

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Speaker 3: So in two thousand and eight, he had been convicted

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Speaker 3: of procuring a child for prostitution and soliciting a prostitute.

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Speaker 3: He had a very controversial plea deal because basically, when

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Speaker 3: building more friendships with socialite celebrities. He starts his friendship

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Speaker 3: with Julane Maxwell. For anybody unfamiliar with her, she's his

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Speaker 3: I just got invited to this rich guy's house for dinner,

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Speaker 3: So not shockingly, in twenty nineteen, he was indicted again

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Speaker 3: on sex trafficking charges related to underage girls, which just

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Speaker 3: opened this whole Pandora's box. He owned a private island,

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Speaker 3: was notable names like Bill Clinton, Stephen Hawking. I'm sure

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Speaker 3: All this really disgusting stuff. So he finally gets arrested

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Speaker 3: in twenty nineteen, and he while he's awaiting trial in jail.

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Speaker 3: On August tenth, to twenty nineteen, he's found dead in

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Speaker 3: his jail cell. His death is so controversial because he

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Speaker 4: I think their cameras, the cameras were broke right or

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Speaker 3: Were off like a two hour window, and then they

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Speaker 1: There was this meme floating around that was awesome years

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Speaker 1: ago and it and it said like Jeffrey Epstein's last visitor,

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Speaker 1: and it was a picture of like Hillary Clinton like

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Speaker 1: dressed as the unibomber with like sunglasses on like it

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Speaker 1: in it was so great, but God, but anyway, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: So what happened was the medical examiner in New York

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Speaker 1: the way that he died wasn't really suicide, but it

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Speaker 1: was homicide for a few reasons. If you do a

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Speaker 1: homicidal strangulation, the mark around the neck is more horizontal,

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Speaker 1: and he had more of a horizontal mark around his neck. Furthermore,

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Speaker 1: his hyoid bone was broken, and that more commonly occurs

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Speaker 4: It can happen, but it's just not as common. So

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Speaker 4: there's just a lot of things that are being brought up.

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Speaker 4: The ligature mark was very thin that looked more like

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Speaker 4: it also just the liver remortis pattern on his body

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Speaker 4: actually do the autopsy myself, and I haven't even seen

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Speaker 2: I got them for it.

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Speaker 4: Oh good, Well, then they'll be in the grocer and

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Speaker 4: then we'll talk about it for sure, because I am

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Speaker 4: really curious to see because they had released a couple

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Speaker 4: show in the post that I write about this. Maybe

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Speaker 4: we'll do this as like a high profile debt or

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Speaker 4: celebrity deck to section, whatever we decide to call it,

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Speaker 4: but show you what it looks like when someone's manually

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Speaker 4: strangled as opposed to hangs that themselves is suicide, and

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Speaker 4: what you would see the different autopsies, and then you

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Speaker 4: guys could just come to your own conclusions about what

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Speaker 4: you think happened. But the whole things surrounding it is

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Speaker 4: just so shady. I mean, how do you have this

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Speaker 2: Not working, Like come on, dude, Yeah, I mean.

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Speaker 3: It's all over the place, like everybody's gonna have their

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Speaker 3: own conclusion with it. But basically, then Julane went to jail.

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Speaker 3: They were supposed to release the names of black these

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Speaker 4: But let's get onto freak accidents because we have some

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Speaker 3: Are you ready for this plane story? Yes?

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Speaker 3: So, there was this Delta flight that was going from

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 2: And how did it not smell? Oh, I'm sure it

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Speaker 4: You would have smelled something before the maggots. The whole

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Speaker 3: Well, the best part is they had to turn around

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Yes, improperly packed, but also improperly searched.

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Speaker 2: Yes, exactly. You were not.

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Speaker 3: Gaslighting everybody saying like, oh, we did our job. You

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Speaker 2: So what a miss? What an absolute man?

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Speaker 4: Just since I've worked on legs that have had maggots

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Speaker 2: I would just be terrified.

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Speaker 3: I think i'd throw up.

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Speaker 2: I don't even know what you would do. Yeah, but

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Speaker 3: So that's only one of three of our gross plane

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Speaker 2: The car that they did all right.

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Speaker 4: So my question is, because I don't know anything about

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Speaker 2: You would do that.

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Speaker 4: We drive on whenever we go to Florida, we drive

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Speaker 3: You, Right, Yeah, I would assume the first options are

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Speaker 4: I think one of the sun says, quote we know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: You're very lucky nobody got killed on the highway, I know.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Anybody that's familiar with this protocol.

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Speaker 2: Please write it.

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Speaker 3: And let us know, because I'm very curious about it

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Speaker 3: as we too.

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Speaker 4: All Right, this this case comes out of where was it?

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Speaker 3: things like this could happen. Maybe maybe there's they checked

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Speaker 3: to see if there's enough clearance that if the tree fell,

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Speaker 3: there's probably some kind of regulations for what's next to

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Speaker 2: That could fall.

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Speaker 4: But I guess it's just a freak thing that happened.

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Speaker 4: That's why we're in freak accidents, right.

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Speaker 3: This one's completely unbelievable. Also out of Kansas City. What

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Speaker 3: is going on over there? So this mother claims she

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Speaker 3: was putting her one month old baby in her crib

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Speaker 2: Coked your death.

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Speaker 3: So the child's grandfather returned home to smelling smoke and

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Speaker 3: then found the grandchild deceased in her crib. When the

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Speaker 3: parts of her body. So can you explain that for everyone?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean she was cooked to death.

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Speaker 4: She was put in an oven that was really hot,

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Speaker 4: and she had thermal burns, they said, all over her,

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Speaker 4: which is what you would see on a piece of

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Speaker 4: meat that you put on a barbecue grill or something.

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Speaker 4: And she died of hyperthermias.

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Speaker 2: It's terrible. It's terrible. One month old baby.

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Speaker 4: I don't even understand how you could accidentally think that

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Speaker 4: an oven is a crib, but on top of that,

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Speaker 4: you accidentally put the baby in the oven and then

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Speaker 4: accidentally turned it on. I mean, I don't know that

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Speaker 4: there is a lot more to the story, obviously with

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Speaker 4: something like that. Apparently, the mom's friend was interviewed and

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Speaker 4: said that she had been dealing with mental health issues

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Speaker 4: out she was pregnant, they suggested she stopped taking her

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Speaker 4: medication and she was supposed to start taking it as

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Speaker 4: soon as she gave birth, and then she told her

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Speaker 4: friend that she wasn't going to take it. And clearly,

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Speaker 4: I think that this has something to do just because

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Speaker 4: the baby's only one month old, like maybe it has

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Speaker 4: to do with postpartum depression or something. It seemed as

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Speaker 4: if the mom, by all accounts on her social media,

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Speaker 4: was really excited to have a baby and wanted to

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Speaker 4: have this baby. So I can't imagine any person in

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Speaker 4: their right mind would intentionally put their baby in an

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Speaker 4: oven like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's really sad, but I guess we'll find out

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Speaker 3: over time what happens. But the mother has she's facing

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Speaker 3: a Class A felony of endangering the welfare of a

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Speaker 3: child and of a child. So this is definitely really

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Speaker 3: sad as a new mother struggling with clearly struggling with

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Speaker 3: a mental health situation and just maybe not having the

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Speaker 3: proper help she needed, because it doesn't even seem like

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Speaker 3: medication would be enough to prevent something of this nature.

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Speaker 2: We just been hearing such crazy stories this year of

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Speaker 2: people who are killing their children after shortly after having

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Speaker 2: a child, and this postpartum psychosis is a real thing,

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Speaker 2: and it's just it's really scary.

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Speaker 4: Not that I'm diagnosing her with that, it's pitt there's

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Speaker 4: a potential that she just like didn't want the kid anymore.

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Speaker 4: I don't know, and I'm sure they'll do like lots

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Speaker 4: of see what she was searching on the internet prior

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Speaker 4: to it happening. But she lived at home with her parents,

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Speaker 4: and her dad said that she seemed fine before he

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Speaker 4: left the house. So how does something like that happen?

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Speaker 4: And then just imagine being the grandparent and finding your

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Speaker 4: little grand baby like that.

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Speaker 3: It's just so sad. No, it's horrible. And speaking of horrible,

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Speaker 3: this next story is so absolutely disturbing. So this is

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Speaker 3: out of New Hampshire. This father is on trial for

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Speaker 3: beating his five year old daughter to death and then

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Speaker 3: living with her decomposed body for months before carelessly discarding

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Speaker 3: her when he was over it. So apparently this guy

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Speaker 3: was This guy is like the epitome of scumbag.

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Speaker 4: I would love to beat the shit out of this dude.

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Speaker 4: When I see his face, I just want to punch him.

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Speaker 4: But for doing this, this little kid is so cute

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Speaker 4: and you look at her and you just think, like,

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Speaker 4: how could anybody possibly want to harm this kid? And

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Speaker 4: I guess she was peeing in the back seat of

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Speaker 4: his car and all of this stuff, which was also

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Speaker 4: their home. Well exactly, and the kid's five. Okay, so

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Speaker 4: kids are in that weird age anyway, where sometimes they

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Speaker 4: might still have accidents. It's not entirely normal for a

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Speaker 4: five year old to be wetting themselves. But also it's

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Speaker 4: known that kids wet themselves when they're abused, right, So

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Speaker 4: it's kind of like a cycle that she may have

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Speaker 4: been doing that just because she wasn't being treated well.

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Speaker 3: Well, she wasn't being treated well, and she was living

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Speaker 3: in a totally abnormal environment. You can't be living in

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Speaker 3: a car when you're five, really ever, but it's certainly

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Speaker 3: when you're firing, exactly.

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Speaker 4: And so he beats the crap out of her and

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Speaker 4: just leaves her for dead in the back seat of

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Speaker 4: the car, and then didn't the wife was there the

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Speaker 4: whole time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he had he currently hasn't a strange wife.

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Speaker 3: But she's the one coming forward with all these details,

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Speaker 3: saying that he would beat the daughter if she had

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Speaker 3: an accident, And then he beat her so badly one time,

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Speaker 3: and they just went out to dinner and seemed like

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Speaker 3: they were drug addicts and just totally ignored it while

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Speaker 3: the kid was dying in the back seat. And when they,

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Speaker 3: like they said, hours later, they realized she was dead

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Speaker 3: in the back seat.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so then they put her in a tote bag

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Speaker 4: in the trunk. I mean, this is really disturbing to

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Speaker 4: hear this, but you guys need to hear this because

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Speaker 4: it's it's it's so just and and there's a really

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Speaker 4: big reason why because a lot of people kind of

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Speaker 4: missed big red flags here. But she they he took

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Speaker 4: the tote bag out of the trunk and put it

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Speaker 4: in like a like a cooler that you would bring

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Speaker 4: to the beach, and then decided that he was going

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Speaker 4: to saw her body down and put lie in it

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Speaker 4: to break down her bones and everything. So first he

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Speaker 4: stuck it up inside of a ceiling vent, and they

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Speaker 4: have proof of that because there's blood and the smell

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Speaker 4: of decomposition in the ceiling vent. But then he decided,

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Speaker 4: since it started to smelling stuff, that he was going

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Speaker 4: to take the bag with him to work every day.

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Speaker 4: And he went to work at a restaurant as a

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Speaker 4: cook and as a dishwasher and would put the bag

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Speaker 4: in the freezer every day. And nobody thought that They

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Speaker 4: thought it was weird, but nobody was like, what's in

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Speaker 4: this friggin bag?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I'm thinking, I'm just thinking and knowing how

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Speaker 3: restaurant industry is, like nobody was nosy enough to just.

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Speaker 4: Be like, I'm just gonna I would have went in

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Speaker 4: there and been like, what's this motherfucker got in this bag?

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Speaker 2: Right now?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Exactly? I mean this makes me so absolutely sick. So

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Speaker 3: she went missing in twenty nineteen, but the police weren't

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Speaker 3: made aware of this until twenty twenty one.

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Speaker 4: It's so gross, it's just so gross. And so let's say,

636
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Speaker 4: like that guy was going to work every day too,

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Speaker 4: And what's the name of the place.

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Speaker 2: I wrote down the place?

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Speaker 4: It was called Portland Pie Company? His his There was

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Speaker 4: a bag of a decomposing child in the freezer where

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Speaker 4: food was being served. Like anybody listening, have you eaten

642
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Speaker 4: there at the at the it's the former Portland Pie Company.

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Speaker 4: I don't know why I would hope it would be closed.

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Speaker 3: I I don't know, Like obviously it's not the restaurant's

645
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Speaker 3: fault that this happened, but like not a single person

646
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Speaker 3: was like, what is going on with this dude?

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Speaker 2: And what is in this tope?

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Speaker 4: It's I don't know, because I mean I've worked as

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Speaker 4: a kid. I used to work on like Boston Market

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Speaker 4: and stuff.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: I just think about being in that situation. If there

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Speaker 4: was some guy that came in every day and was like, Hey,

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Speaker 4: I'm just gonna put my bag in the freezer, there's

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Speaker 4: no way that people wouldn't be like why.

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Speaker 3: Also, you're not supposed to have miscellaneous objects that are

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Speaker 3: not food in the walk in or the.

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Speaker 2: Freeze, personal items. You just shouldn't do that.

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Speaker 3: But yes, so that alone should have been a red

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Speaker 3: flag to anybody working in the kitchen unless he was

661
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Speaker 3: hiding it behind stuff and nobody now.

662
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 4: They saw it because people were saying that they thought

663
00:33:23,160 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 4: it was weird, and you're like, but you didn't.

664
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: I just don't. I don't know.

665
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 4: And that's why I think it's important to talk about

666
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 4: stories like this, because there's there's like a normal person, right,

667
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:37,720
Speaker 4: you're working at a restaurant. You would never think that

668
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 4: a guy that was bringing in his toe bag had

669
00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 4: his dead little kid caught up in there that was decomposing.

670
00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 4: But people do this stuff, and that's.

671
00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 2: The action of putting the toe bag in the It

672
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:50,320
Speaker 2: should be a red flag for everyone.

673
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 3: Exactly, Yeah, exactly. So I think like the saying see something,

674
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 3: say something, isn't for nothing. We really should be enforcing

675
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 3: that in every avenue of life. There's people now upon

676
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 3: reflectioner saying yeah, it was weird. Well, if you thought

677
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 3: it was weird, you should have looked into it.

678
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I don't know if it's if somebody's doing

679
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 4: something weird, if you necessarily have to call.

680
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 3: The cops, and you don't have to call the cops,

681
00:34:12,160 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 3: but you could take it upon yourself.

682
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:14,319
Speaker 2: I don't know.

683
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 4: Maybe people were like really did think that they knew

684
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:19,839
Speaker 4: something was bad in there, and they just didn't want

685
00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 4: to look at it.

686
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 2: Because could you fucking imagine like.

687
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 3: Opening your personal safety You should have been like going

688
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:29,240
Speaker 3: to management being like, yo, take care of this duty,

689
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 3: shady and something.

690
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,640
Speaker 2: Get the manager to take care of it. That's real nice.

691
00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:35,120
Speaker 3: Yes, that's their job.

692
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 2: All right. Let's talk about another douchebag. This guy.

693
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:43,200
Speaker 4: I can't even believe that our legal system like who

694
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 4: goes to jail versus who doesn't. It's and the amount

695
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 4: of time people serve tell them about this story.

696
00:34:50,360 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: In March twenty twenty two, this pregnant woman claimed her

697
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:57,919
Speaker 3: husband started lecturing her about hydration and offering her water,

698
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,279
Speaker 3: which I want to preface by saying, I I'm in

699
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 3: this situation almost daily, and with our trip coming up

700
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,360
Speaker 3: soon to Denver, you know, Ricky's like up my ass,

701
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:08,360
Speaker 3: like you need.

702
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:08,920
Speaker 2: To drink water.

703
00:35:09,000 --> 00:35:10,839
Speaker 3: You need to drink water, You're gonna get sick because

704
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,319
Speaker 3: of the altitude. I'm like, all right, dude, I get it,

705
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: like chill out.

706
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,920
Speaker 2: So I could very easily see myself here.

707
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 4: So we should, we should expect that you're going to

708
00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 4: get poisoned on your relationship. He's he's setting the tone

709
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:25,880
Speaker 4: right now for it exactly. Keep an eye up, Rickers,

710
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 4: I know you're listening. So basically, she's saying, after she

711
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,640
Speaker 4: drank the first glass of water he offered, she got

712
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:35,600
Speaker 4: really sick and she noticed the water was cloudy, but

713
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:39,000
Speaker 4: he played it off as the pipes were dirty, So

714
00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 4: here we go. So after this, she was refusing all

715
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 4: of his offers, which she said was up to seven times.

716
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 4: He was trying to force her to drink something a

717
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 4: concoction he had made, and then later she found packaging

718
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 4: for a drug in the trash called.

719
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,120
Speaker 3: Miss aprostall Is that right? Yeah, that's probably not correct

720
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 3: at all. Myso pro stall but isso pro style, which

721
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:08,440
Speaker 3: is a medication used to induce abortions. This absolutely disgusting behavior.

722
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 3: She immediately set up secret cameras in their house. She

723
00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,960
Speaker 3: caught him on video putting it in her drink and

724
00:36:15,000 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 3: trying to offer it to her, so she gave that

725
00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 3: to the police. This was their third child. She did

726
00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:25,959
Speaker 3: end up giving birth prematurely, ten weeks prematurely. And yeah,

727
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 3: she's saying that the baby has developmental delays and it

728
00:36:30,600 --> 00:36:33,200
Speaker 3: has to attend therapy eight times a week. So the

729
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:34,879
Speaker 3: wife is pretty disgusted that.

730
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:37,080
Speaker 2: This guy has now only been.

731
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 3: Sentenced to one hundred and eighty days.

732
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 4: It's unreal, right, It's literally not even it's like half

733
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:43,960
Speaker 4: a year.

734
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 2: How is that even possible.

735
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:48,840
Speaker 3: I don't know how it's possible. And I have to

736
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 3: agree with her that justice has not been served because

737
00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 3: if you're trying to go, for example, eye for an eye,

738
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:56,680
Speaker 3: like the age of the person you have tried to

739
00:36:56,760 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 3: kill versus whatever. If you're trying you're gonna kill a baby,

740
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: you're gonna try to kill again. I'm sorry, it's just

741
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 3: absolutely discussing if you don't want the kid give up rights.

742
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 3: It's it's I don't understand why people are just immediately

743
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:12,719
Speaker 3: going to like I'm gonna kill somebody. It's the same

744
00:37:12,719 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 3: with affairs. If you don't want to be married, you

745
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 3: don't need to.

746
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: Kill your spouse, just get divorced.

747
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 3: You know.

748
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: This is this is why I'm thinking that he's getting

749
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: What state was this in? I'm just curious. I don't

750
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 2: think I have with state this is it? I forget

751
00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 2: where it was.

752
00:37:27,600 --> 00:37:30,920
Speaker 4: But I think that it's because it's a fetus, and

753
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 4: in a lot of places they might not consider it

754
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:37,880
Speaker 4: to be I think there's some places that consider it

755
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 4: to be equivalent to a human life, whereas some there's

756
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 4: there's a little bit of lesser laws. But the kid,

757
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 4: the kid didn't die, and he didn't really try to

758
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:51,439
Speaker 4: kill her because that draw I don't know. I mean,

759
00:37:52,120 --> 00:37:55,920
Speaker 4: he drugged someone without their knowledge and without their consent,

760
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:01,000
Speaker 4: and that's that should be. That should just be more

761
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:04,239
Speaker 4: than one hundred and eighty days in itself giving her

762
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 4: a drug. That so the drug causes premature labor, like

763
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 4: it causes the cervix to soften and then it induces

764
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 4: uterine contractions. I I think he did plead guilty. So

765
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 4: what I'm thinking is that maybe it was like a

766
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 4: plea deal kind of thing. I just think even if

767
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 4: it's a plea deal, this is really concerning. They have

768
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:29,239
Speaker 4: two other children that now have to live with the

769
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,440
Speaker 4: fact that their father poisoned their mother essentially, and.

770
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 3: What happens when he's out of jail in six months,

771
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:40,200
Speaker 3: Like that's it. I would hope that he's losing custody

772
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,160
Speaker 3: of the kids. The wife has obviously filed for divorce,

773
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 3: but now it's like she has to deal with a

774
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 3: child that has problems because of this douchebag, and it's

775
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,640
Speaker 3: not fair to her. It's not fair to the child

776
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 3: that was born, and it's not fair to the siblings.

777
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 3: And I just agree with her. I don't think that

778
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 3: this is enough. Okay, get onto the next story. This

779
00:39:03,280 --> 00:39:06,279
Speaker 3: is some lightheartedness we could or a good story a

780
00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 3: good result of a bad story. So a dad took

781
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 3: his two daughters, who were eight and two years old,

782
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,640
Speaker 3: to get a car wash, you know, normal dad activities,

783
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 3: nothing out of the ordinary. After the car wash was done,

784
00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 3: he pulled away but noticed that the water really hadn't

785
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 3: dried off the car, so pulled over to finish wiping

786
00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:26,560
Speaker 3: it down. While the car was running, somebody had asked

787
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 3: him for directions, and while he was talking to that person,

788
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 3: he heard his car screeching away. The car had been

789
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,720
Speaker 3: stolen with the two kids inside of it. So what's

790
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 3: cool about this story is that the guy that stole

791
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,680
Speaker 3: the car was asking the eight year old like, where

792
00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 3: are the keys? Where are the keys? And she sat back,

793
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,360
Speaker 3: this brave little girl, and thought to herself, do I

794
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,719
Speaker 3: fight back or do I just keep calm for me

795
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 3: and my sister? No, well, he said, she said that

796
00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: the dad had the keys, and then she she thought

797
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 3: like the guy was like get out of the car then,

798
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,839
Speaker 3: and then that's when ye, she said, so she wasn't

799
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:04,680
Speaker 3: gonna be combative about giving him the information. And then

800
00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 3: the guy told her to get out of the car,

801
00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:09,720
Speaker 3: and she was like, I'm just gonna wait and whatever.

802
00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: So eventually he abandoned the car with them both in

803
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,080
Speaker 3: it unharmed, thank goodness, and the father had left his

804
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 3: cell phone in the car, so his wife was able

805
00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,799
Speaker 3: to track the whereabouts of the phone and they were

806
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 3: able to safely find the kids. I think this was

807
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,640
Speaker 3: so cool of the sister at such a young age

808
00:40:25,640 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 3: to be like, let me do it's best for me

809
00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 3: and my little sister and try to get out of

810
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:30,760
Speaker 3: this situation.

811
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,879
Speaker 4: Now, you always read stories like this and think like, God,

812
00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:35,959
Speaker 4: I hope my kids would do something like this.

813
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, Lillian would be like, yeah, peace out, dude. But

814
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 2: there's two.

815
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:46,600
Speaker 4: Interesting parts of this. Like number one is the key fob, right,

816
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:49,439
Speaker 4: so we most cars don't have keys that go into

817
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,319
Speaker 4: the ignition and you could just keep it in your

818
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:55,200
Speaker 4: pocket and start the car. So that's kind of interesting

819
00:40:55,320 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 4: because I think my car isn't like that. So if you,

820
00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,120
Speaker 4: I guess, if you wanted to take mine, that's there

821
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 4: you go, right, So this could this actually could have

822
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 4: happened to you yesterday. When when did we go to

823
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:09,240
Speaker 4: the car wash yesterday?

824
00:41:09,680 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: Yeah? Oh my god, yeah, how we almost became one

825
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 3: of our own step we did.

826
00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 2: We got like stuck in the you know the thing

827
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: that goes yeah, at.

828
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 3: The very end of the the buffer thing comes down

829
00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:25,840
Speaker 3: to you know, dry the windshield, and it just kep't believing.

830
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 2: It was like it was stuck.

831
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 4: And then it would like push the car back and

832
00:41:29,560 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 4: then it went forward and it seemed like it was

833
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 4: stuck the bar.

834
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 3: I was explaining this to Ricky and he was not

835
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 3: understanding what I was saying, the bar was stuck of

836
00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 3: the big machine in the car wash, was stuck down,

837
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: like it would not lift up so then we could

838
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 3: drive out of the car wash. Because he was like,

839
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 3: you could have just driven through it. I'm like, you

840
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 3: don't understand.

841
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 4: We were stuck and that, and my fear was that

842
00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 4: the thing was just gonna crush the windshield down, like

843
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:54,680
Speaker 4: right into our lab.

844
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 3: I wasn't worried about that. I was worried about the

845
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 3: jeep behind it.

846
00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 2: That was the protein.

847
00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 3: He was getting closer and closer, and I'm like, oh

848
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 3: my god, if this thing doesn't lift up, the car

849
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 3: is gonna hit us, and then we're gonna be jammed

850
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,920
Speaker 3: in between this gep and the thing. And the employees

851
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,400
Speaker 3: were not paying attention as we knew going into the

852
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 3: car wash because your car that stuff full.

853
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,760
Speaker 2: Other situation, whole other story.

854
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 3: I would hate to see video of us this.

855
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,560
Speaker 2: I would hate to see video.

856
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:25,239
Speaker 4: Of us anywhere because there it's a clown show all

857
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,319
Speaker 4: the time. So we get so, I get, I turn

858
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 4: around that we'll go in the parking lot, and I

859
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:31,320
Speaker 4: leave the car on and Maria's in the phone texting

860
00:42:31,640 --> 00:42:33,960
Speaker 4: while I'm drying the outside of my car off like

861
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 4: somebody easily could have came in and kidnapped you.

862
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 3: Well, I'm a thirty year old.

863
00:42:38,760 --> 00:42:41,760
Speaker 4: Woman, so I think you would have probably not acted

864
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 4: as good as this eight year old.

865
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:45,600
Speaker 3: I don't think I would have, which is a lot

866
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: to say.

867
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 2: All right, hey, let's get into some medical news.

868
00:42:49,520 --> 00:42:53,200
Speaker 3: Our final airplane story, which is the most unbelievable of

869
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,680
Speaker 3: the three, if you can believe it or not. This

870
00:42:55,800 --> 00:42:59,520
Speaker 3: flight was going from Thailand to Germany. So as these

871
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:02,160
Speaker 3: people were boarding the plane, this sixty three year old

872
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:05,720
Speaker 3: man gets on and people notice he's got like cold

873
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 3: sweats and shortness of breath, which in the COVID day

874
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,080
Speaker 3: and age, just like people are paying attention to stuff

875
00:43:11,120 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 3: like this, right, So his wife said that they were

876
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 3: running to catch the flight and that's why he was

877
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 3: in a kerfuffole. So a nurse was watching him and

878
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,600
Speaker 3: pull the flight attendant aside and was like, I really

879
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,560
Speaker 3: think he needs to be seen by a doctor. He

880
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 3: really doesn't seem okay. They call on the overhead for

881
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,560
Speaker 3: a doctor and this doctor checks him out, checks his

882
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 3: pulse and is like, I think he's okay. Give him

883
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: some caba meal tea.

884
00:43:34,760 --> 00:43:35,400
Speaker 2: Oh, I know.

885
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,320
Speaker 4: It's like it's that's the best part of the story,

886
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:41,200
Speaker 4: is that a doctor's just like, yeah.

887
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,760
Speaker 2: Oh he has a pulse, Okay, he's fine. Yeah.

888
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 3: So so after that, the nurse is like, I don't

889
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 3: think he's okay. I saw him splitting spinning some blood

890
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:51,839
Speaker 3: into a bag, and they're like, you know what, We're

891
00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 3: gonna take off anyway. So what happens after that is

892
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,719
Speaker 3: they take off, and then shortly after taking off, not

893
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 3: shockingly but shockingly, he starts puking out quote leaders of

894
00:44:05,719 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 3: blood out of his mouth and nose. It's splattering all

895
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:12,640
Speaker 3: over the sides of the plane and on the floor. Obviously,

896
00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 3: people are okay for about a half hour afterward. The

897
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 3: flight attendant then starts performing CPR. Everybody's like, what is

898
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,160
Speaker 3: going on? And then over the loudspeaker they say the

899
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:24,200
Speaker 3: passenger has died.

900
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, what what a weird flight? Right.

901
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:29,799
Speaker 4: The nurse is probably like, yet, listen, this is the

902
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 4: life of being a nurse or any person that's not

903
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 4: a doctor that works in medicine, because you're not taking

904
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,720
Speaker 4: like if if she was a doctor, they would have listened.

905
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 4: But it's because she's a nurse. She doesn't know as

906
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,840
Speaker 4: much as the doctor, right, and clearly he was a genius.

907
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: So she's probably like told you.

908
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,000
Speaker 4: And and yeah, but what a weird flight to to

909
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:54,400
Speaker 4: think that the that the pilot's going to be like, well, passengers,

910
00:44:54,440 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 4: we we lost someone.

911
00:44:57,000 --> 00:44:58,240
Speaker 2: Like what do they even say?

912
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:58,600
Speaker 3: How?

913
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:00,520
Speaker 2: How weird is that? I don't know?

914
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:03,520
Speaker 3: But this this is even worse for me. So the

915
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 3: flight record showed that they left Bangkok around midnight, that's

916
00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:10,239
Speaker 3: when the flight originally departed, and then they returned to

917
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 3: Bangkok at eight am, that's eight hours later. And then

918
00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 3: the passengers had to wait in additional two hours before

919
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:20,640
Speaker 3: they were rebooked on another flight, and their next flight

920
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: had a layover, Like you couldn't even have given them

921
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: a direct flight. Yeah, when this is like kind of all, well,

922
00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 3: it's not all your fault. You can't prevent that's that's

923
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,040
Speaker 3: the thing. Like humans are humans and they're going to

924
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 3: have things happen.

925
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 4: So of course my first thing is like, what what

926
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:38,680
Speaker 4: caused this guy to start bleeding.

927
00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,760
Speaker 2: Leaders out of his mouth? Yeah?

928
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 4: And really there's only like a couple things that would

929
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 4: cause that to happen. So one the wife's saying that

930
00:45:49,120 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 4: he's fine, there's a chance that he's he's very sick.

931
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 2: He's been sick.

932
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:58,239
Speaker 3: You can get something called d esophageal verses if you

933
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 3: have serrhosis of the liver is kind of like varicose

934
00:46:02,280 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 3: veins around the bottom of your esophagus. And actually, I'm

935
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,759
Speaker 3: starting to think that this is probably what it is,

936
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 3: because when they started ascending, I feel like one of

937
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:17,239
Speaker 3: those things could have ruptured, because what happens is the

938
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 3: vessels around the esophagus become really engorged and thinned out,

939
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 3: and the slightest thing could cause it to burst. And

940
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 3: when you have end stage liver disease and you have cirrhosis,

941
00:46:31,560 --> 00:46:35,560
Speaker 3: it also affects your clotting of your blood. So it's

942
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 3: that the combination of the rupture of the varices along

943
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 3: with the clotting factors that cause people that's like a

944
00:46:43,360 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 3: cause of death, to just cause them to vomit large

945
00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 3: leaders of like bright red blood. Other things could be

946
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,560
Speaker 3: if you have like a tumor in your neck and

947
00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 3: it's end stage, which I feel like he probably didn't

948
00:46:57,080 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 3: have some crazy stage for headed neck cancer because people

949
00:47:00,640 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 3: would have noticed that and he probably wouldn't even have

950
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,040
Speaker 3: been able to really walk around like that, but that

951
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:09,960
Speaker 3: could eat into like the carotid artery and cause blood

952
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 3: to come out that way. And then another way is

953
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 3: like from do you remember the case in the book

954
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:18,799
Speaker 3: with that guy Riley that he bled all over like

955
00:47:18,880 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: that in his bathroom. Yeah, he had a bleeding ulcer.

956
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:26,440
Speaker 3: I think it was in the stomach or esophagus. I

957
00:47:26,440 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 3: don't recall, but.

958
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:31,720
Speaker 4: So yeah, so it could be like, not many things

959
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 4: cause that to happen. So I personally think it was

960
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 4: probably from a ruptured pharisees. And I mean, I we'll

961
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 4: never find out, I'm sure, but I just like to Yeah,

962
00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 4: I like to guess, but jeez, could you There's so

963
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:50,920
Speaker 4: many things where you just think, what if I witnessed

964
00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 4: that in real life, Like what would what would you

965
00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 4: even do?

966
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 3: Well, we know I'd pass out immediately. And then they

967
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,800
Speaker 3: made the lady go through customs after her husband.

968
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:02,880
Speaker 4: How how I know? Like how long was the flight

969
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 4: supposed to be? It was like in one of those

970
00:48:06,520 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 4: crazy long ones. I don't I think it was around

971
00:48:11,320 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 4: I think it was supposed to be around like eight hours.

972
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:15,880
Speaker 2: So they turned the plane around.

973
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, they turn bad playing around and went back to Thailand,

974
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 3: which I was thinking why wouldn't they just land at

975
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 3: the closest airport, But I guess geographically, I'm not really sure.

976
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,080
Speaker 3: There had to be somewhere they could have landed faster. Yeah,

977
00:48:29,080 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 3: I don't I don't understand, and I mean, really, it's

978
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 3: it's kind of listen, it's it's fucked up to say this,

979
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 3: But like, the guy's dead, So why don't you just

980
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 3: finish the flight at this point? You're not going to

981
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:42,680
Speaker 3: bring them to the hospital and try to save them.

982
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 3: There there was nothing they could have done, I mean,

983
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 3: was I guess the scene was that bad they couldn't

984
00:48:46,960 --> 00:48:51,400
Speaker 3: hide it from people or something. I mean, I'd be

985
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 3: I'd be more traumatized having to go all the way

986
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,120
Speaker 3: back take a flight with a layover after that than

987
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 3: I would just to stay on the plane for another

988
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,359
Speaker 3: couple hours and just deal with it. Well, maybe they

989
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 3: were just like not wanting to deal with sending a body.

990
00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 3: Maybe the people were from Thailand and they were just.

991
00:49:09,160 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 2: Not wanting to deal with sending the body back. I

992
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 2: don't know.

993
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:15,520
Speaker 3: I don't know what happened. I'm actually going to be writing.

994
00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 3: Last week in the Grocerroom, I wrote an article about

995
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 3: shipping ashes because of that story we talked about last week,

996
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 3: and this week I'm going to be writing one about

997
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,080
Speaker 3: shipping whole bodies.

998
00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 2: After saying yeah, okay, I'm looking forward to that one

999
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:30,800
Speaker 2: I actually had.

1000
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 4: I had an autopsy once of a guy who died

1001
00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 4: on vacation scuba diving, and they had to send his

1002
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,680
Speaker 4: body back to United States and I had to do

1003
00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:45,080
Speaker 4: the autopsy on him, but he was embombed. I feel like,

1004
00:49:45,560 --> 00:49:48,080
Speaker 4: I feel like they make you embombed before you go.

1005
00:49:48,120 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 2: On the plane. But you'll find that out in your

1006
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 2: research next week.

1007
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:54,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, Onto the surgical robot.

1008
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 2: Oh, the da Vinci robot.

1009
00:49:57,320 --> 00:50:00,239
Speaker 3: In twenty twenty one, a seventy year old seventy eight

1010
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 3: year old woman was getting surgery to treat her coal

1011
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 3: in cancer with the Da Vinci Surgical Robot, which is

1012
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:10,400
Speaker 3: a foe armed machine activated by a doctor operating a

1013
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:14,280
Speaker 3: camera and a surgeon steering the robot's arms and joystick

1014
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:18,480
Speaker 3: like a video game. Right, that's exactly what it is actually, So,

1015
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:21,160
Speaker 3: then the robot burned a hole in her small and tested,

1016
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:25,120
Speaker 3: which injured her and eventually caused her to I think. So.

1017
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 4: I was trying to read this to try to figure

1018
00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 4: out what happened, but I think they said that the

1019
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,800
Speaker 4: one of the arms was defective and it was causing

1020
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 4: electrical shocks and causing burns essentially to happen to the patients.

1021
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,759
Speaker 4: And they said that part of the lawsuit is that

1022
00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 4: the doctors aren't trained to recognize like when that happens,

1023
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,880
Speaker 4: even though there's been reports of it happening before, so

1024
00:50:49,960 --> 00:50:53,919
Speaker 4: they have the robot company hasn't made that like, hey,

1025
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 4: make sure you look out for this if this happens,

1026
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,839
Speaker 4: because this could be this could be a problem. And

1027
00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:03,640
Speaker 4: it looks like the surgeons didn't realize that it singed

1028
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:06,920
Speaker 4: her bowl and they closed her up, and then after

1029
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:10,439
Speaker 4: she had the surgery, she started having severe abdominal pain

1030
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,879
Speaker 4: and a fever, which to me means that her bow

1031
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:16,480
Speaker 4: perforated and her fecal material was getting inside of her

1032
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:20,320
Speaker 4: abdominal cavity. And we know, like inside of fecal material

1033
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,000
Speaker 4: is bacteria and that could cause like a massive infection

1034
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 4: and kill somebody if it's not caught in time.

1035
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, her husband suing the company that created the machine,

1036
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:34,640
Speaker 3: saying that they failed to adequate adequately warn of these

1037
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:39,200
Speaker 3: risks and claiming it should have known of the risk

1038
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 3: from thousands of injuries and defective reports.

1039
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,399
Speaker 2: So I think I.

1040
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 4: Think it's justified, honestly, because if the if I'm a

1041
00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,480
Speaker 4: surgeon and I'm performing this and I don't I'm not

1042
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 4: really aware of.

1043
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 2: Those risks, how like, how would how would you know

1044
00:51:57,120 --> 00:51:59,560
Speaker 2: to look for it? I'm not I'm not sure.

1045
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:02,840
Speaker 4: I mean, I feel I don't really know how the

1046
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:07,359
Speaker 4: machine works. Is obviously I've never done surgery, but I'm

1047
00:52:07,400 --> 00:52:10,759
Speaker 4: curious that that wasn't apparent before they closed the person up,

1048
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 4: that there was an injury to the boll.

1049
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: But I don't know what that is supposed to look like.

1050
00:52:16,200 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 3: Okay, so tell everybody about Alaska pox.

1051
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 2: Hashtag eye roll.

1052
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:26,879
Speaker 4: I'm so dude, I'm so drained by the by all

1053
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 4: of this stuff they just try to do on the news.

1054
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:34,360
Speaker 4: And they tried it with empocs formerly known as monkey pox.

1055
00:52:34,120 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 2: Because we can't call it that anymore.

1056
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:39,400
Speaker 4: So now the biggest thing this week is Alaska pox.

1057
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,920
Speaker 4: Right this apparently it's in the same family as like

1058
00:52:44,239 --> 00:52:48,759
Speaker 4: monkey pox or impox and smallpox. It's just like it's

1059
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:53,560
Speaker 4: it's chicken pox. It's in a family that causes lesions

1060
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:57,520
Speaker 4: that are like pock marks. It was first discovered in

1061
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 4: Alaska in two thoy and fifteen, and wait till you

1062
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:10,280
Speaker 4: hear this staggering statistic. Since twenty fifteen in Alaska, seven

1063
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 4: people have had it, seven and one has recently died.

1064
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,160
Speaker 4: So now we have to scare the shit out of

1065
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,800
Speaker 4: everyone that there's a new virus on the rise.

1066
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think this is kind of a

1067
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,319
Speaker 3: nothing burger at this point, Like why is it even

1068
00:53:29,320 --> 00:53:33,200
Speaker 3: in the news, Because they learned to should know about

1069
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,319
Speaker 3: it and should know what's happening. But I don't really

1070
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:38,400
Speaker 3: feel this is information the public necessarily needs. Listen with this,

1071
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:39,080
Speaker 3: they learn.

1072
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 4: That if they scare the shit out of people, that's

1073
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,840
Speaker 4: people click on those stories and that makes money, and

1074
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:47,520
Speaker 4: that's what happens. It's the same thing was happening last

1075
00:53:47,600 --> 00:53:51,280
Speaker 4: year with the MPOC situation. It was trying to scare

1076
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,080
Speaker 4: the shit out of people, trying to make it the

1077
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:55,799
Speaker 4: next big thing. And it's not cool to do to

1078
00:53:55,840 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 4: people because you have physically handicapped people for life that

1079
00:54:00,719 --> 00:54:04,480
Speaker 4: are scared of germs. It's just terrible that they're doing that.

1080
00:54:04,560 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 4: And it says it right in the article that this

1081
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:14,040
Speaker 4: person that died is immunosuppressed, and it happened to seven people, Like,

1082
00:54:14,120 --> 00:54:16,439
Speaker 4: why are we even talking about that out loud?

1083
00:54:16,520 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: It's so ridiculous. I don't know, all.

1084
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,040
Speaker 4: Right, this this is this is actually kind of my

1085
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:23,319
Speaker 4: favorite story of the week.

1086
00:54:24,400 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 3: Okay. This couple, Brianna and William, had met through Facebook

1087
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 3: in April of twenty twenty. In the fall of twenty

1088
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 3: twenty one, Brianna then moved into William's house. So, in

1089
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,800
Speaker 3: March twenty twenty two, Brianna, who is a transgender woman,

1090
00:54:38,040 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 3: had surgery to remove her testicles. She after the surgery,

1091
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 3: kept the testicles in a mason jar inside of their

1092
00:54:44,680 --> 00:54:45,839
Speaker 3: fridge in their home.

1093
00:54:47,080 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 2: So I thought, whom, Maria just says that, like like

1094
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:52,320
Speaker 2: it's pickles in her fridge.

1095
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:56,640
Speaker 3: Well, it's like, fact, I'm reading it's testicle, Like you

1096
00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 3: got your testicles cut off and put them in a

1097
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 3: mason jar in refrigerator next to the edge. Trying to

1098
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:08,800
Speaker 3: use trying to use my best broadcast or personality about it. Okay, Anyway,

1099
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:12,600
Speaker 3: they broke up in December of twenty twenty two, and

1100
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:16,399
Speaker 3: Brianna moved out of the home. So William felt that

1101
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,279
Speaker 3: Brianna was harassing him and there was a protective order

1102
00:55:19,320 --> 00:55:22,759
Speaker 3: put in place to which Brianna violated and had been

1103
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 3: put in jail for a couple of days, and they

1104
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:27,879
Speaker 3: only charged her one hundred dollars fine, which, to our

1105
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:30,439
Speaker 3: last couple of weeks of talking about stalking, it's really

1106
00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 3: nice that if somebody violates a protection order they only

1107
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:37,359
Speaker 3: get one hundred dollars fine. That's a topic for another day.

1108
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,400
Speaker 3: I guess, even though we've been trying to drill it

1109
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,360
Speaker 3: into your heads, that there needs to be some reform

1110
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 3: with that. So in January twenty twenty three, she had

1111
00:55:45,160 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 3: just gotten out of her couple day jail stint and

1112
00:55:47,680 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 3: was escorted by a police officer into the couple's home,

1113
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 3: which was previously William's home, to collect her belongings. So

1114
00:55:56,320 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 3: when she went to get her belonging, she did not

1115
00:55:58,960 --> 00:56:03,840
Speaker 3: grab the testicles in the fridge, and in the meantime

1116
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:06,640
Speaker 3: William saw them and threw them out, because who wants

1117
00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 3: balls in their fridge?

1118
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,640
Speaker 1: Who wants any balls in their fridge, let alone their

1119
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:13,080
Speaker 1: ex's balls in their fridge.

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00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 3: So she demanded the immediate return of her quote human

1121
00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:21,560
Speaker 3: remains specimen in a handwritten affid David and also wanted

1122
00:56:21,600 --> 00:56:25,840
Speaker 3: sixty five hundred dollars in damages, but remember he already

1123
00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 3: threw them out. So then she put a lawsuit forward

1124
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:33,839
Speaker 3: to William for discarding her surgically removed testicles, to which

1125
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 3: he countersuited, saying he wanted it dismiss because it was embarrassing,

1126
00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:41,000
Speaker 3: because we are covering it and it's getting worldwide coverage,

1127
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:44,520
Speaker 3: and he's embarrassed by the whole situation. So they judged

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00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,880
Speaker 3: throughout the case, saying that Brian had ample time to

1129
00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 3: retrieve her testicles and did not do so. To which

1130
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 3: do you have the quote from this article.

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00:56:54,480 --> 00:56:58,040
Speaker 2: We're talking about my nuts. I wanted them in my fridge,

1132
00:56:58,080 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 2: not his.

1133
00:57:00,080 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 3: Well, sweetheart, they could have been in your fridge if

1134
00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:05,560
Speaker 3: you just took inventory of your belongings and took them

1135
00:57:05,560 --> 00:57:06,160
Speaker 3: out when you had to.

1136
00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 2: Jake, exactly what a mouthful? All this was? All right?

1137
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:12,400
Speaker 2: Other death news.

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00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm another story that I cut last week

1139
00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:21,439
Speaker 4: just because there was really no information out at the time,

1140
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 4: and now there's more information out.

1141
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,240
Speaker 2: And it leaves me even more confused.

1142
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 4: A child that was going to some controversial therapeutic camp.

1143
00:57:32,080 --> 00:57:35,320
Speaker 3: Do you know what it was called? I don't have

1144
00:57:35,360 --> 00:57:38,040
Speaker 3: the name of the camp. I know these camps exist,

1145
00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:40,760
Speaker 3: and that's kind of because Paris Hilton. That's what all

1146
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 3: of her documentaries and books have been about, and she's

1147
00:57:44,120 --> 00:57:47,000
Speaker 3: actually trying to get all this reform in DC to

1148
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:49,280
Speaker 3: try to get these camps eradicated.

1149
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,520
Speaker 2: Why did she go to one of these camps? Was

1150
00:57:51,600 --> 00:57:52,600
Speaker 2: she a bad kit or.

1151
00:57:52,560 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 3: Something, because Kathy claims she was totally an animal, out

1152
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,360
Speaker 3: of control sneaking out in the middle of the night,

1153
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,680
Speaker 3: hanging out with girl men. So what happens with these

1154
00:58:01,720 --> 00:58:04,640
Speaker 3: camps most of the time is they the parents set

1155
00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 3: these meetings up and they will have the camp like

1156
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,760
Speaker 3: essentially kidnapped the troubled teen in the middle of the night,

1157
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:14,120
Speaker 3: which is traumatic, and then send them there and they're

1158
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 3: really problematic because a lot of sexual assault occurs there

1159
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,240
Speaker 3: and really violent abuse, and the parents are always like,

1160
00:58:21,320 --> 00:58:23,320
Speaker 3: I didn't know because they called the school and they

1161
00:58:23,360 --> 00:58:26,560
Speaker 3: said everything was fine, which I'm feeling is the type

1162
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 3: of situation at this camp too. So basically, a twelve

1163
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:32,720
Speaker 3: year old boy was sent to this camp for troubled

1164
00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,840
Speaker 3: youth in North Carolina and then less than twenty four

1165
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 3: hours after being dropped off, he was found dead of

1166
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:43,000
Speaker 3: a possible poisoning. So this is what's disturbing about it.

1167
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:46,760
Speaker 3: When investigators got there, they said that he was his

1168
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:50,120
Speaker 3: body was inside of a bunk house and it was positioned.

1169
00:58:50,680 --> 00:58:52,840
Speaker 3: And this is another thing I don't like how this

1170
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,920
Speaker 3: story's written. The body was positioned on its back, like, no,

1171
00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 3: this is a twelve year old boy. It's not an it,

1172
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,160
Speaker 3: it's a it's a human.

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00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, and multiple times in the story referring to this

1174
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 4: boy as its So that's gross, it is I don't

1175
00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,240
Speaker 4: like that. So the body was positioned on it. He

1176
00:59:12,360 --> 00:59:15,560
Speaker 4: was positioned on his back with knees bent upward, and

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00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,000
Speaker 4: investigators noticed that the body was cold and stiff, with

1178
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 4: possible bruising around the eye. But they noted that he

1179
00:59:22,880 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 4: was not wearing pants or underwear and it was next

1180
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:31,560
Speaker 4: to his shoulder. So the investigators asked the camp counselors, like,

1181
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 4: why are his pants and underwear off, and they said

1182
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:35,520
Speaker 4: they didn't know.

1183
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 3: So there's a lot of weird information about this. So

1184
00:59:39,440 --> 00:59:43,600
Speaker 3: first the counselors, who are being totally uncooperative by the way,

1185
00:59:44,320 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 3: said that the boy was sleeping in a sleeping bag

1186
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:49,760
Speaker 3: inside of a small tent, which was called a bivvie.

1187
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:53,080
Speaker 3: But the investigators are saying they found the body inside

1188
00:59:53,080 --> 00:59:55,800
Speaker 3: of the bunk house, so I don't know, I'm not

1189
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:58,880
Speaker 3: as familiar with terminology. Are these the same things? A

1190
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 3: bunk house in the tent? Don't seem the same to me,

1191
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,920
Speaker 3: so which is it? But basically they're saying he was

1192
01:00:04,960 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 3: really irate when he arrived at the camp, which I

1193
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,800
Speaker 3: would assume most kids are that go to these type

1194
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,880
Speaker 3: of camps, and he had had a panic attack around midnight,

1195
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 3: so they checked on him inside of the biv at

1196
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:20,080
Speaker 3: three am and six am, but his dead body was

1197
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,720
Speaker 3: found at seven forty five am.

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01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:25,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, something's up with it, especially because they said that

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01:00:25,880 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 4: he had foam around his mouth when they found him,

1200
01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:32,040
Speaker 4: So I guess that's why they're saying a suspected poisoning,

1201
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,280
Speaker 4: which it's totally possible that the kid took some kind

1202
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:37,800
Speaker 4: of drugs and was having some kind of a like

1203
01:00:37,840 --> 01:00:45,280
Speaker 4: an opioid reaction or overdose, but which is totally you

1204
01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,880
Speaker 4: could believe, I mean, even in a twelve year old.

1205
01:00:48,520 --> 01:00:51,240
Speaker 4: The problem is is that why were his pants off

1206
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,240
Speaker 4: and why were his underwear off? Why was he positioned

1207
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:57,920
Speaker 4: like that? That's it's so messed up. I mean, like

1208
01:00:57,960 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 4: another way that you would see foam around the mouth,

1209
01:01:00,080 --> 01:01:04,200
Speaker 4: as if a kid drown but it didn't seem like

1210
01:01:04,200 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 4: there was any signs of that. So he went to

1211
01:01:07,000 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 4: the medical examiner's office and they said that it didn't

1212
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 4: look like it was natural. But of course they're pending

1213
01:01:13,720 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 4: toxicology results and other results. So I'm pretty sure that

1214
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:20,520
Speaker 4: they're going to come back and say more about this

1215
01:01:20,680 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 4: because this is this is just weird.

1216
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 3: So the place is called Trails, Carolina. Actually I had

1217
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 3: that later on in my notes. So, yeah, this is

1218
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 3: really problematic for many of reasons. But the counselors are

1219
01:01:36,120 --> 01:01:39,640
Speaker 3: absolutely refusing to cooperate with investigators. They won't talk to

1220
01:01:39,720 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 3: them about anything. They won't let the kids talk to

1221
01:01:42,200 --> 01:01:45,600
Speaker 3: them about anything, who are potential witnesses, right, and then

1222
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 3: the camps trying to say, quote, we are a mental

1223
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 3: health facility treating children with severe complex mental diagnoses. Not

1224
01:01:52,600 --> 01:01:54,920
Speaker 3: moving children from the area would be harmed to their

1225
01:01:54,920 --> 01:01:57,840
Speaker 3: well being. So they were getting criticized by investigators for

1226
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 3: moving all of the witnesses out of the area and

1227
01:02:00,160 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 3: then refusing to let investigators talk to the children. Yeah,

1228
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 3: so I do understand if you're dealing with really emotionally

1229
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 3: vulnerable children that you don't want to expose them to

1230
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,400
Speaker 3: a crime scene or a potential crime scene or the

1231
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 3: scene of a death of one of their peers. But

1232
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 3: at the same time, you can't deny investigators trying to

1233
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 3: get to the bottom of this. Something's really fishy about it.

1234
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:22,240
Speaker 3: And it's not the first death this campus had. They

1235
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 3: had another death when a seventeen year old ran away

1236
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,080
Speaker 3: and was found later dead from hypothermia in a stream.

1237
01:02:29,120 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 2: Wow.

1238
01:02:30,280 --> 01:02:34,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, So I just I don't I.

1239
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:39,040
Speaker 4: Just don't understand what people think sending their kid. I mean, listen,

1240
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 4: like I you were like a blessing of a teenager,

1241
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:44,840
Speaker 4: but like I wasn't.

1242
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:49,520
Speaker 2: So my mom very well could have sent me there.

1243
01:02:49,560 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know.

1244
01:02:50,360 --> 01:02:52,320
Speaker 4: It's just like I feel like there's other ways to

1245
01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 4: try to get someone straight. It's just kind of you know,

1246
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 4: and like going back to Paris, Hilton and everything, Like

1247
01:02:58,920 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 4: she gets very very criticized for her baby voice and everything,

1248
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 4: but she's admitted that she does that voice as just

1249
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,160
Speaker 4: part of being this victim of trauma. Like she was

1250
01:03:08,280 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 4: raped at that school and beaten up, and she told

1251
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,120
Speaker 4: her parents and they were like, we think you're just

1252
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 4: really bad, and they didn't do anything about it. And

1253
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 4: Kavon Die actually went to one of these schools too

1254
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:21,320
Speaker 4: and had a really similar experience. It's it's really scary

1255
01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,680
Speaker 4: because we we even know that these things happen, if

1256
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 4: these celebrities weren't out there telling us about there.

1257
01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,120
Speaker 2: Is it like a place for rich kids?

1258
01:03:28,640 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 4: Is this something that like normal, because because it's like

1259
01:03:31,280 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 4: we live in the pros, I've never heard of some

1260
01:03:33,040 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 4: shit like that. Yeah, I assume it's it costs a

1261
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:38,160
Speaker 4: lot of money because it's essentially like a boarding school.

1262
01:03:38,280 --> 01:03:42,520
Speaker 4: Yeah thing, but yeah, it seems like quote out of control.

1263
01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 4: Rich children get sent to these places and then it's

1264
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 4: absolutely horrific experience. So Parasittant's really working in DC to

1265
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,360
Speaker 4: try to get laws put in place that these schools

1266
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:53,520
Speaker 4: can't exist anymore.

1267
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:56,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not as weird. And I mean, after hearing this,

1268
01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 3: I kind of am like, why.

1269
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:02,840
Speaker 4: Do yeah, exactly, Okay, this is a very interesting story.

1270
01:04:02,880 --> 01:04:05,840
Speaker 4: This story comes out of India, so it's not typically

1271
01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:09,760
Speaker 4: how we would handle things when somebody is sick or dying.

1272
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:11,280
Speaker 2: But do you want to explain what happened?

1273
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 3: A fifty two year old woman reportedly made a startling

1274
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 3: return to consciousness moments before she was to be cremated.

1275
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:24,200
Speaker 3: So she was in her residence on February first in

1276
01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:26,760
Speaker 3: a fire that left burns across her body. She was

1277
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:31,720
Speaker 3: considered in critical condition for the days and weeks to follow. Eventually,

1278
01:04:31,920 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 3: after a while, she stopped showing signs of consciousness, but

1279
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:38,600
Speaker 3: her family had a lot of financial constraints, so they

1280
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,760
Speaker 3: just stopped seeking medical attention and assume she was dead

1281
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:44,840
Speaker 3: and started planning her funeral. So as she was about

1282
01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 3: to be cremated, she started showing signs of life.

1283
01:04:48,320 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 4: So this woman almost dies in a fire and then

1284
01:04:54,120 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 4: she's almost burned alive getting cremated.

1285
01:05:00,200 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 2: That's crazy.

1286
01:05:01,440 --> 01:05:04,480
Speaker 3: I loved how this article closed out. It said in

1287
01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:07,760
Speaker 3: a swift response to the bewildering situation. The heirs driver

1288
01:05:08,200 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 3: who took her to the crematorium and returned her home

1289
01:05:10,680 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 3: very much alive.

1290
01:05:13,000 --> 01:05:17,160
Speaker 4: So and like no other details like while is she

1291
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:20,919
Speaker 4: still alive? Is like what happened? Did she die?

1292
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,880
Speaker 3: Didn't we talk about a story yeah, almost a year

1293
01:05:25,880 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 3: ago where a woman was about to be cremated and

1294
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 3: showed signs of life.

1295
01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 4: No, she was just brought down into the morgan a body. Okay,

1296
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:34,000
Speaker 4: but she was still alive. But then she died, like

1297
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,360
Speaker 4: right after then she did die. Yeah, that's why I

1298
01:05:36,480 --> 01:05:38,520
Speaker 4: was like, can we get the rest of the story?

1299
01:05:39,200 --> 01:05:39,520
Speaker 2: All right?

1300
01:05:39,640 --> 01:05:39,760
Speaker 3: This?

1301
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 2: What's this next one? Another ridiculous?

1302
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 3: I do find this to be ridiculous. It's kind of

1303
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 3: a stretch. And Idaho's state representative named Heather Scott wants

1304
01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 3: to build out the state's law against cannibalism over fears

1305
01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:57,040
Speaker 3: that composting of human remains could lead to humans consuming

1306
01:05:57,160 --> 01:06:00,960
Speaker 3: other humans. I have this whole theory about the government.

1307
01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:03,880
Speaker 3: It's kind of like my last hospital job I worked at.

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Speaker 3: There's all these glaringly huge problems that need to be addressed,

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Speaker 3: but the management of the hospital or of the country

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Speaker 3: decide that like they're going to take on these little

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Speaker 3: stupid things that they feel like they could put forth

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Speaker 3: these things and then get them passed and they could

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Speaker 3: act like they're actually doing something like look around, what's

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Speaker 3: going on in this country right now? You're worried about this.

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Speaker 3: This is what our lawmakers and my tax dollars are

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Speaker 3: paying for. Is someone to worry about if you do

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Speaker 3: human composting, that people will accidentally ingest human remains. It's like,

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Speaker 3: can you actually do something that's that's useful for us

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Speaker 3: right now? So, Idaho is the only state currently that

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Speaker 3: outlaws cannibalism. I guess it's just frowned upon in.

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Speaker 2: The rest our forty nine states.

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Speaker 3: But human composting is still legal because it's considered more

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Speaker 3: eco friendly than.

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Speaker 2: Than doing creaming.

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Speaker 3: So they're saying that basically, it's harder for this lady

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Speaker 3: to go against the composting laws than it is to

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Speaker 3: expand the cannibalism laws.

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Speaker 2: But it just kind of.

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Speaker 4: It's it's a waste a fucking time, that's what it is,

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Speaker 4: Like do something else.

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Speaker 2: Just so she.

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Speaker 3: Proposed a bill that would make it illegal to serve quote,

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Speaker 3: the flesh and blood of another human being to someone

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Speaker 3: that does not know or consent to it. Like like

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Speaker 3: cannibalism's already in your state. You're trying to make this

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Speaker 3: stretch with the human compost It's.

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Speaker 4: Just it's seriously like, this is this is what all

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Speaker 4: the managers at my last hospital would do.

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Speaker 2: They would just sit around and create.

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Speaker 4: Problems that that don't even exist instead of addressing major ones.

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Speaker 2: Like it's it's just it's so outrageous to me, it

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Speaker 2: really is.

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Speaker 3: But we're gonna end on a kind of a sweet note.

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Speaker 3: A Catholic former Dutch prime minister has died by euthanasia

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Speaker 3: hand in hand with his wife, both at ninety three years.

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Speaker 2: It's called duo euthanasia.

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Speaker 3: Oh, duo euthanasia. So explain it for everybody.

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Speaker 2: I guess.

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Speaker 4: In the Netherlands, it's it's legal, and it's becoming increasingly

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Speaker 4: popular for couples to be doing this together. And it

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Speaker 4: looks like the twenty six people got it done originally

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Speaker 4: when they were allowed to start doing it, and then

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Speaker 4: every year it increased. So then then the next year

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Speaker 4: it was thirty two couples were allowed to do it,

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Speaker 4: and then fifty eight couples. So it's it's gradually increasing

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Speaker 4: as a as couples get older and maybe one of

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Speaker 4: them is I guess, do they both have to be

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Speaker 4: really sick or you are allowed to just do it

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Speaker 4: if you want to do it, Like if you're like,

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Speaker 4: let's say, for example, Gabe and I are like no.

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Speaker 3: It says independent wish for death.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: So so if you're in your nineties and like one

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Speaker 4: of us has terminal cancer, like we could just go

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Speaker 4: and be like, hey, can we just check out at

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Speaker 4: the same time kind of thing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it says ethan asia and assisted suicide have been

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Speaker 3: legal in the Netherlands since two thousand and two for

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Speaker 3: six conditions including unbearable suffering, no prospect of relief and

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Speaker 3: long held independent wish for death, and then a second

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Speaker 3: specialist must confirm the wish and then most cases are

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Speaker 3: carried out by a family doctor in your home.

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Speaker 2: It's interesting.

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Speaker 4: We just wrote about broken hearts this week for Valentine's

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Speaker 4: Day for our high profile deaths, and it happens that

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Speaker 4: a lot of times couples die within they say three

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Speaker 4: months is the average time, but within a year of

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Speaker 4: couples dying together at the same time, and we've wrote

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Speaker 4: multiple different examples of that, and so dying from a

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Speaker 4: broken heart is a real thing. And maybe this isn't

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Speaker 4: such a bad idea, because it seems like a lot

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Speaker 4: of times, especially these older couples that have been together

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Speaker 4: a majority of their life, when their partner dies, they

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01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:03,519
Speaker 4: just have a rapid decline afterwards, and the sadness is

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01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:06,040
Speaker 4: just too much. And maybe it is a good idea

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Speaker 4: to be able to do this if you so choose

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Speaker 4: to do it.

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Speaker 3: Okay, onto Question of the Day. Every Friday on the

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Speaker 3: ap Mother Knows Death Instagram, we add a little question

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Speaker 3: box on our story so you guys could ask whatever

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Speaker 3: you want. We've done questions of all different kinds, so

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Speaker 3: we really.

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Speaker 2: Accept most of them.

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Speaker 3: This week, our first question is what kind of music

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Speaker 3: do we each listen to? I I don't really know.

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Speaker 2: I don't listen. I don't really like music.

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Speaker 3: If I were to choose, it would be stuff that

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Speaker 3: was older, like I'm talking prior to nineteen ninety and

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Speaker 3: but I don't really listen to music. I find that

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Speaker 3: it gives me anxiety. I know that that sounds really weird,

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01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:54,240
Speaker 3: but it's just I have like a thing with noise.

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01:10:54,400 --> 01:10:59,320
Speaker 3: So I don't listen to music that much. But against

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01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,880
Speaker 3: my will, I listened to Taller Swift all the time,

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01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:04,080
Speaker 3: and it's it like drives me nuts.

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01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:05,840
Speaker 2: The songs are stuck in my head. I don't want

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01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:07,360
Speaker 2: them in my head. I don't.

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Speaker 4: I don't hate her, but I don't. I don't like

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01:11:09,720 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 4: it either. So that's what my kids are really into

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01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,120
Speaker 4: right now. This Olivia Rodrigo girl like go down the

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01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:20,080
Speaker 4: list of everything that kids this age, Like, so that's

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Speaker 4: what's been playing in my house lately.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I am kind of all over the place. Like

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01:11:26,680 --> 01:11:30,560
Speaker 3: as a teenager early twenties, I was really into emo hardcore.

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Speaker 2: So my Chemical Romance.

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01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:36,200
Speaker 3: I do love my Chemical Romance, but only like the

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01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:40,120
Speaker 3: first two albums really because that was in my prime.

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01:11:40,520 --> 01:11:45,920
Speaker 3: But like Thursday and Jawbreaker. I really love Jawbreaker because game.

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01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:47,240
Speaker 2: I like job Breaker.

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01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:50,560
Speaker 3: I love Jawbreaker. Yeah, I like, I really love Jawbreaker.

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01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,839
Speaker 3: In my elder years, I'm starting to like more calm music.

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01:11:53,880 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 3: I really really really love Jason Isbel Casey Musgraves new

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01:11:59,240 --> 01:12:02,240
Speaker 3: album I'm really into right now or the new one

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01:12:02,280 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 3: coming out. I really love Beyonce too show. Everybody was

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01:12:07,080 --> 01:12:09,160
Speaker 3: so surprised when I went to her concert. I'm like,

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01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,200
Speaker 3: I've always loved her. I really love her music a lot.

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Speaker 4: So I'm kind of probably because I used to play

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01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:17,400
Speaker 4: Destiny's Child when when you were a little kid or something.

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01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:20,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then, like my I have different playlists for

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01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,800
Speaker 3: different moods I'm in, Like, I have more like seventies

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01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:25,439
Speaker 3: disco songs I like.

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01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 2: And then I have my every day go not every.

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01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:30,639
Speaker 3: Day because I mostly listen to podcasts. But my go

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01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:34,519
Speaker 3: to is I have like a retro country album that

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01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 3: I listen to a lot, and I really like Band

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01:12:36,479 --> 01:12:38,160
Speaker 3: of Horses a lot, which I know you like.

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01:12:38,200 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, I could like I if I'm in the car

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01:12:41,400 --> 01:12:43,559
Speaker 4: by myself, I'm going to listen to a podcast. I'm

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01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 4: not going to listen to music. But there's some how

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01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,679
Speaker 4: I feel too like sometimes if especially when we take

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01:12:48,760 --> 01:12:51,600
Speaker 4: road trips and stuff, we'll put on. We'll put on

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01:12:51,680 --> 01:12:54,200
Speaker 4: some music and listen to it on the way there,

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01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,080
Speaker 4: and it's usually it's usually just like older stuff not

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01:12:57,680 --> 01:13:00,040
Speaker 4: And then when Ricky comes over when we're swimming in

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01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,920
Speaker 4: the summer, what do I always say, like, don't put Bob,

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01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:05,880
Speaker 4: don't put Bob Seger. Like one time we're in the

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01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 4: pool and I'm like, I don't know, just like put

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01:13:07,520 --> 01:13:09,879
Speaker 4: on some cool music he had like on the OJ's

1448
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:12,120
Speaker 4: and something was like really awesome, and then he like

1449
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,080
Speaker 4: throws in a Bob Sieger song and I was just like, dude,

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01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 4: don't ever put this on the playlist again.

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01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 2: It's like ruining the mood back here.

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01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:20,680
Speaker 3: I know he threw a couple of those on for

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01:13:20,720 --> 01:13:24,639
Speaker 3: you at Christmas time too, I know it like you're

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01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:29,000
Speaker 3: torturing here. Okay, next, Nicole, are you still working as

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01:13:29,040 --> 01:13:32,120
Speaker 3: a PA now or does the website slash podcast keep

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01:13:32,120 --> 01:13:33,240
Speaker 3: you busy? So?

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01:13:33,520 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 4: No, I don't work as a full time PA anymore.

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01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:40,639
Speaker 4: I haven't for some time actually, but I do work

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01:13:40,680 --> 01:13:43,479
Speaker 4: as a part like a per day MPa sometimes to

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01:13:43,560 --> 01:13:46,559
Speaker 4: do autopsy, so I have been keeping my hand in

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01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,120
Speaker 4: it a little bit. But yes, this definitely takes up

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01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:51,120
Speaker 4: all of my time and more.

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01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:55,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this situation's a full time job for

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01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:56,000
Speaker 3: the both of us.

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01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,479
Speaker 4: I know it doesn't I know it doesn't look like much,

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01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:00,519
Speaker 4: but there's a lot that we have to do behind

1467
01:14:00,560 --> 01:14:04,640
Speaker 4: the scenes of because we run everything together technical aspects

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01:14:04,680 --> 01:14:07,960
Speaker 4: of while Maria does a lot of that really, but

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01:14:08,920 --> 01:14:11,639
Speaker 4: just the website and it's just there's just a lot

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01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:12,479
Speaker 4: going on.

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01:14:12,520 --> 01:14:16,840
Speaker 3: I'm the stage mom and she's the performers. How do

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01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:20,120
Speaker 3: you feel How important do you feel autopsy is for

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01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:23,120
Speaker 3: the PA profession slash PA programs?

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01:14:23,560 --> 01:14:27,759
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it's incredibly important. I think that really

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01:14:27,840 --> 01:14:29,320
Speaker 2: the only way that you can.

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01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:33,320
Speaker 4: Learn anything about surgical pathology is you have to do

1477
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 4: autopsies and you have to see all the organs together

1478
01:14:36,040 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 4: and how they work together. So when you get an

1479
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 4: organ in surgical pathology, you can visualize exactly where it

1480
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,960
Speaker 4: came out of the body. It's not anything you're really

1481
01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,639
Speaker 4: going to pick up in like everyone has to take

1482
01:14:48,720 --> 01:14:53,160
Speaker 4: roast anatomy and PA school, but you're usually taking that

1483
01:14:53,320 --> 01:14:55,760
Speaker 4: with when you're a student. You're not working, and then

1484
01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:59,640
Speaker 4: there's this lapse of time and when you do autopsy

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01:15:00,160 --> 01:15:03,760
Speaker 4: between doing surgical pathology especially, I feel like it just

1486
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 4: keeps your mind fresh all the time, so you can

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01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,400
Speaker 4: really orient organs because think about this, like when you

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01:15:09,439 --> 01:15:12,839
Speaker 4: do an autopsy, you see all of the organs together

1489
01:15:12,960 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 4: in the body and it makes sense. But then when

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01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:18,639
Speaker 4: you get an organ in surgical pathology, it's just taken

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01:15:18,720 --> 01:15:21,640
Speaker 4: out and sometimes if there's a tumor in it or

1492
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:24,720
Speaker 4: there's some kind of pathology going on, you can't even

1493
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:26,680
Speaker 4: tell like which way is up, what the hell is

1494
01:15:26,720 --> 01:15:29,880
Speaker 4: going on here, because it's so distorted, And when you

1495
01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,639
Speaker 4: have a really good background in anatomy, you can figure

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01:15:33,640 --> 01:15:37,840
Speaker 4: out anything. So I think autopsies are like I know

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01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:40,160
Speaker 4: some people have a theory like once you've seen one,

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01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:42,120
Speaker 4: you see in them all and it's just not true.

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01:15:42,600 --> 01:15:47,040
Speaker 4: You just have such a more well rounded education when

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01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:51,000
Speaker 4: you do a lot of autopsies. That's my personal school

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01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,719
Speaker 4: of thought.

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Speaker 3: All right, guys, thank you so much. I hope you

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Speaker 3: enjoyed this episode and we will see you next week.

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Speaker 2: See you next week.

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Speaker 4: Thank you for listening to Mother Knows Death. As a reminder,

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01:16:05,680 --> 01:16:09,479
Speaker 4: my training is as a pathologist's assistant. I have a

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Speaker 4: master's level education and specialize in anatomy and pathology education.

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Speaker 4: I am not a doctor and I have not diagnosed

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Speaker 4: or treated anyone dead or alive without the assistance of

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Speaker 4: a licensed medical doctor. This show, my website, and social

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Speaker 4: media accounts are designed to educate and inform people based

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Speaker 4: on my experience working in pathology, so they can make

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Speaker 4: healthier decisions regarding their life and well being. Always remember

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Speaker 4: that science is changing every day, and the opinions expressed

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Speaker 4: in this episode are based on my knowledge of those

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Speaker 4: subjects at the time of publication. If you are having

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Speaker 2: Thanks