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Speaker 1: if you're just waking up, Tom Brady is not going
Speaker 1: back to New England. We don't know where he's going,
Speaker 1: or at least Tom says he doesn't know where he's going.
Speaker 1: But we do know where he's not going back to
Speaker 1: that news broken by? Now does the news get credited?
Speaker 1: Like according to Tom Brady, Tom Brady's gonna get credit
Speaker 1: for this. This is Adam Schefter or Jeff Darlington or
Speaker 1: Tom Curran, Tom Brady, no, Jay Glazer. Brady's gonna get
Speaker 1: credit for this scoopage. But we don't know where he's going.
Speaker 1: Is it going to be Tampa? Is it going to
Speaker 1: be the Chargers? Is there a mystery team here? Could
Speaker 1: the Colts be involved in this? Mclovin is handling the
Speaker 1: whole question on Ears this morning. What are the results
Speaker 1: from the first hour, Well, Tom Brady, go Chargers, Bucks
Speaker 1: or other Chargers? Right all away with it? Other box
Speaker 1: only twenty eight percent? All right, We'll check in with
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and find out just how serious
Speaker 1: they are about Tom Brady. Rick Stroud, who covers the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers for the Tampa Bay Times. We'll join us coming
Speaker 1: up a little bit later on this hour eight seven
Speaker 1: seven three D P show Email undrestp at dan Patrick
Speaker 1: dot com, Twitter handle, a DP show. Some head scratching
Speaker 1: moves yesterday, Bill O'Brien leading the way. Bill O'Brien, the
Speaker 1: GM made it hard harder for Bill O'Brien, the head coach,
Speaker 1: because you trade away DeAndre Hopkins. And from what I
Speaker 1: was told, Bill has a very short fuse and got
Speaker 1: tired of dealing with DeAndre Hopkins and decided that he
Speaker 1: was going to be traded this offseason, and that's what happened.
Speaker 1: The Patriots reportedly we're in on the sweepstakes here for
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins. But you start to look at this and say,
Speaker 1: all right, you give up your second best player for
Speaker 1: a broken down running back on a big contract and
Speaker 1: a second round draft pick. And then when you think
Speaker 1: about the Texans don't have a first round pick in
Speaker 1: twenty twenty or twenty twenty one, so replacing DeAndre Hopkins
Speaker 1: was going to be difficult. They're bringing in Randall Cobb.
Speaker 1: I guess that's how they're going to replace him here.
Speaker 1: But the Laramie Tunsel deal horrible. They didn't get a
Speaker 1: first round pick from Davian Clowney the Cowboys. The cornerback
Speaker 1: Byron Jones got a massive deal with the Miami Dolphins
Speaker 1: and Mary Cooper. He got five years, one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 1: Everybody got paid, but Dak Prescott here. The Colts, they
Speaker 1: went for it, swung big, and they brought in the
Speaker 1: all Pro defensive tackle DeForrest Buckner from the forty nine ers,
Speaker 1: and they gave up the thirteenth pick in the twenty
Speaker 1: twenty draft. Also, they gave him twenty one million dollars
Speaker 1: a year. Man, that's a lot of money. Aaron Donald Okay,
Speaker 1: DeForrest Buckner, twenty one million dollars a year and a
Speaker 1: draft pick, a first round draft pick there. I don't
Speaker 1: know if teams are going, hey, how do we stop
Speaker 1: Derek Henry. Let's load up our defense here. You know,
Speaker 1: the Ravens helped their defensive line. They got Calais Campbell,
Speaker 1: who they get as well Brockers as well from the Rams.
Speaker 1: Michael Brockers, but you gave up the thirteenth pick in
Speaker 1: the draft. And I gotta believe if you needed a
Speaker 1: wide receiver, you're certainly able to find one. And then
Speaker 1: you got the Titans who gave Tannehill four years, one
Speaker 1: hundred eighteen million, sixty two million of that guaranteed, and
Speaker 1: then you franchise Tag Derrick Henry. Yeah, point you mentioned
Speaker 1: wide receiver. I was reading some of the boards in Indianapolis.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are complaining that you needed that
Speaker 1: first round draft pick to get a wide receiver to
Speaker 1: help Ty Hilton out. The one thing that team desperately
Speaker 1: needs is another a receiver, and this is the draft
Speaker 1: has got a bunch of them. And the thirteenth spot
Speaker 1: you would have had your pick. Yep, you could have
Speaker 1: gotten Cede Lamb, who I think is the best receiver
Speaker 1: in this draft. And even if you don't get him,
Speaker 1: there are other receivers there, and Lamb might go into
Speaker 1: top ten, Robert Krafft told ESPN. According to Mike Reese, quote,
Speaker 1: Tommy initiated contact last night and came over. We had
Speaker 1: a positive, respectful discussion. It's not the way I wanted
Speaker 1: to end, but I want him to do what is
Speaker 1: in his best personal interest. After twenty years with us,
Speaker 1: he's earned that right. I love him like his son
Speaker 1: and if you're just joining us. I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: a source told me this morning, is this news broke
Speaker 1: that he wouldn't be surprised if the Patriots said to Tom,
Speaker 1: we're moving on from you, because Tom says he doesn't
Speaker 1: know where he's going. When I read the announcement that
Speaker 1: he had on social media, I thought, oh, okay, Tom
Speaker 1: is not going back to the New England Patriots because
Speaker 1: he is going to go And then there was no
Speaker 1: where's he going to go to right now? Is it
Speaker 1: going to be Tampa? Will be the Chargers? Is there
Speaker 1: another team? And the reason why it's important because I've
Speaker 1: had people say, why do you spend so much time
Speaker 1: on Brady, Well, look at what this decision is going
Speaker 1: to do. It's already change the Patriots. Now we know
Speaker 1: there's going to be another quarterback. It could change the
Speaker 1: Chargers if they get him. If they don't get him,
Speaker 1: do they turn it over to Tyrod Taylor? Do they
Speaker 1: take Justin Herbert? Did they trade up to get Tuah?
Speaker 1: And then you look at Tampa. What's Tampa do if
Speaker 1: they don't get him, do they get Teddy Bridgewater? If
Speaker 1: they do get him, what happens to Teddy Bridgewater? Does
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater go to Chicago? Ross Tucker had a tweet
Speaker 1: this morning, Brady news is why the Bears couldn't add
Speaker 1: a quarterback. Yesterday. They were trying to bring in either
Speaker 1: Dalton or Bridgewater, and Ross Tucker says that they couldn't
Speaker 1: do that despite trying to leverage the situation. Bridgewater and
Speaker 1: Dalton both want to be the next starting quarterback of
Speaker 1: the Patriots. That's why we spend so much time on this.
Speaker 1: That's why you look at Brady in that decision and
Speaker 1: what that means for at least three franchises here, maybe four.
Speaker 1: Tom Curran has a piece that he just put out.
Speaker 1: Let me see if there's anything juicy in here. Tom
Speaker 1: Currant covers the Patriots. Tom Brady reached out to Robert
Speaker 1: Kraft on Monday night and met with New England Patriots
Speaker 1: owner at his home in Brookline, mass. Kraft explained to
Speaker 1: NBC Sports Boston that Brady explained he would be leaving
Speaker 1: the Patriots, so his choice. At least, that's how they're
Speaker 1: spinning this. Kraft said the conversation was warm between the
Speaker 1: two men. We love each other very much, said Kraft.
Speaker 1: He's like a family member. This is very sad because
Speaker 1: he's like his son to me. All right, Well, is
Speaker 1: Tom leaving because Tom realizes that there is not a
Speaker 1: good author there? But do I want to give credit
Speaker 1: to a couple of people? And Tom Curran and Jeff
Speaker 1: Darlington had said all along Tom Brady's not going back.
Speaker 1: Well they said that because this is coming from Brady's
Speaker 1: side of the equation. Because you're not gonna hear Belichick
Speaker 1: side of this. Brady people probably saidn't know that he's
Speaker 1: not going back there. Okay, he doesn't know where he's going,
Speaker 1: but he knows that he's not going back to New England.
Speaker 1: That's what I find interesting. If you're that adamant that
Speaker 1: you're not going back, aren't you that adamant of knowing
Speaker 1: where you want to go? Because the Chargers and Buccaneers
Speaker 1: and feels like here all in on him. Is he
Speaker 1: waiting for somebody else there? Or you don't want to
Speaker 1: sign because you want to make sure you know, you
Speaker 1: don't jump the gun before somebody else says, hey, I
Speaker 1: wish you would have given us a chance. I still
Speaker 1: feel life of me don't understand why the Colts aren't
Speaker 1: in on Tom Brady, do not understand that at all.
Speaker 1: I know the relationship between the offensive coordinator and Philip Rivers,
Speaker 1: and they were there with the Chargers. But if I
Speaker 1: could have Tom Brady or Philip Rivers and I'm the Colts,
Speaker 1: I'm taking Tom Brady. Mclovin. Are you gonna do a
Speaker 1: different poll question for this hour about We're gonna say
Speaker 1: who's gonna go to the Patriots? Next choices are Jared Stidham,
Speaker 1: who will be the starter around Jared Stidham, Andy Dalton,
Speaker 1: Nick Foles, Teddy Bridgewater on there? Who else goes on there?
Speaker 1: Nick Foles is gonna make it nas Nick Foles? That
Speaker 1: was probably suggestion. I love it? Why not he beat
Speaker 1: them already? Well, they're talking about Foles is the possibility
Speaker 1: in Chicago as well. But all right, we can do that.
Speaker 1: So if you think who would be the next starting
Speaker 1: quarterback for the Patriots, Teddy Bridgewater, Jared Stidham, Andy Dalton,
Speaker 1: Nick Foles or other. When we had Tom Curran on,
Speaker 1: he said that plan B was Jared Stidham and Tom
Speaker 1: Currant joining us now to take a victory lap. Good morning, Tom,
Speaker 1: How are you hey? Dan? How are you victory up. Well,
Speaker 1: you did say to me a couple of weeks ago
Speaker 1: when I text you, I said, I think Tom's gonna stay,
Speaker 1: and you said, you know, I'll bet you anything you
Speaker 1: want to bet. So thank you for reminding me. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's going to be a great spring if we get outside.
Speaker 1: All right, So what do you think transpired last night
Speaker 1: between Robert Kraft and Tom Brady. I spoke to Kraft
Speaker 1: about twenty minutes ago. Brady reached out and asked if
Speaker 1: Robert had some time for him. Robert hopes that at
Speaker 1: his Brookline home they were going to sit down and
Speaker 1: have some resolution to what was going on. Even though
Speaker 1: negotiations hadn't even really started, the Patriots had not made
Speaker 1: any kind of an offer. Kraft hoped that that would
Speaker 1: be the result of what was going on, that they
Speaker 1: would start to make some headway, and instead Brady was
Speaker 1: steadfast and just going over there to explain that he
Speaker 1: was leaving the team. So Kraft said, it was a
Speaker 1: very quote loving discussion. He's very sad. I asked whether
Speaker 1: or not. I asked if he felt that the Patriots
Speaker 1: had done enough in terms of negotiating and trying to
Speaker 1: make an effort to get Brady to stay, and perhaps
Speaker 1: that it wasn't about that. This is something that Tom
Speaker 1: feels he wants to do with this point, and he
Speaker 1: wasn't going to be happy in our system. Now by system,
Speaker 1: I don't think that means offensive system. I think that
Speaker 1: means really the relationship at this point. Well, I don't
Speaker 1: think it's tense. I don't think it is disrespectful. I
Speaker 1: don't think it is loathsome. I think that it be understanding.
Speaker 1: It's a philosophical difference. Brady thinks he can still play
Speaker 1: at a very high level for a while and wants
Speaker 1: to do that, wants to be surrounded by a specific
Speaker 1: set of players, and Belichick doesn't feel that way. And
Speaker 1: they haven't felt that way really since twenty seventeen, which
Speaker 1: is why he's never gotten any of these extensions that
Speaker 1: he was But do you think this is what Belichick wants? Yeah,
Speaker 1: in the end, I mean it's like you know, she
Speaker 1: wants serf or turf. I can take either, you know,
Speaker 1: I could take you there whatever, because he stays. And
Speaker 1: I had a storce who told him this morning and
Speaker 1: he said, look, I would not be surprised if the
Speaker 1: Patriots moved on from Tom Brady. But everybody wants to
Speaker 1: be careful and how this is presented, presented to the media.
Speaker 1: What do you make of that? I think that Tom
Speaker 1: Brady and I wrote this the other day. One of
Speaker 1: the ability to jump before he was pushed, okay, and
Speaker 1: that's what he asked. Well, with the ability to be
Speaker 1: a free agent, he knew even if he had signed
Speaker 1: a two year contract last year, the ability for the
Speaker 1: Patriots to trade him somewhere, the ability for the Patriots
Speaker 1: to cut him as cap savings, all those things remained
Speaker 1: in the offing. Yeah. I don't think that Bill is
Speaker 1: gonna wake up or woke up this morning and said, boy,
Speaker 1: what are we going to do now? Now he has
Speaker 1: a massive amount of cap space available to him that
Speaker 1: is not going to be gobbled up by a quarterback,
Speaker 1: and certainly to have it gobbled up by a forty
Speaker 1: three year old quarterback was not going to be appetized.
Speaker 1: They're on their way. I ask you this last week.
Speaker 1: I believe I said what his plan being. You did
Speaker 1: not hesitate. You said, Jared Stidham. Do you still believe
Speaker 1: that Jared Stidham is going to be the starting quarterback
Speaker 1: for the Patriots in twenty twenty. That's two different questions, Dan,
Speaker 1: don't you give me that? Don't don't you put that?
Speaker 1: Who do? Okay? Who is going to be the starting
Speaker 1: quarterback in twenty twenty? I think Jared Stidham has the
Speaker 1: inside track, Dan, did you see I'm not answering your
Speaker 1: question directly. I'm going to give you a different answer.
Speaker 1: I think that Jarrett Stidham is going to be given
Speaker 1: every opportunity to win that job. They will make moves
Speaker 1: since the only other quarterback on their roster right now
Speaker 1: now is Cody Kessler, and those moves might be mid
Speaker 1: tier veteran free agents. But I don't think they're going
Speaker 1: to get in the Andy Dalton business. I really don't.
Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if they did. That doesn't mean they won't,
Speaker 1: but I would be very surprised if they didn't. Say, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's let's just we can get done with Jarrett Stidham
Speaker 1: virtually the same thing we could get done Jared, who
Speaker 1: was Andy Dalton. Let's just ride through here and see
Speaker 1: what we got. How can Brady be this buttoned up,
Speaker 1: this prepared to be the greatest quarterback of all time?
Speaker 1: And say I'm not going to be back with the
Speaker 1: Patriots but not know where he's going. I find that absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's unfathomable that Tom does not know where
Speaker 1: he's going. Do you believe that. I believe he's probably
Speaker 1: got to destination in mind. But this is to me, Dan,
Speaker 1: this is to me, this is a twenty four hour
Speaker 1: rebuke of what the Patriots they have done and why
Speaker 1: they put him here. This is, Hey, I'll be telling
Speaker 1: you where I'm gonna go, but I'll damn well love
Speaker 1: to tell you on March seventeenth where I'm not going
Speaker 1: to go. It's New England. That's what this is about.
Speaker 1: To me, I'm not coming back. Sorry. They had their chance.
Speaker 1: They couldn't negotiate it with me from the end of
Speaker 1: the football season until now, they didn't do it. Now
Speaker 1: spring period is underway and they still haven't picked up
Speaker 1: the phone. Last we knew, we had a fleet of
Speaker 1: tweets from Field the eight saying that Tom is on
Speaker 1: the look to make the first move here. We just
Speaker 1: need to know what he needs so that we could
Speaker 1: figure out what we're doing. I mean, this to me
Speaker 1: is the Patriots back him into a corner, and he
Speaker 1: said look, I just want you all to know I'm
Speaker 1: going to go someplace in the next couple of days.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure where, but a dampsham is not going
Speaker 1: to be back to New England. Yeah, but the game
Speaker 1: of musical chairs here. If the Chargers all of a
Speaker 1: sudden say, you know what, we're going to go all
Speaker 1: in on to a Tonga Byelo or Justin Herbert here
Speaker 1: and make Tyron Taylor a quarterback, and Tampa says we're
Speaker 1: going to make a move on Teddy Bridgewater here. Like
Speaker 1: Tom knows when the music stops, he's got a chair
Speaker 1: to sit down on. That's why he knows where he's going.
Speaker 1: I can't imagine that Tom would go, hey, you know,
Speaker 1: the best time to look for a job is when
Speaker 1: you have a job, not when you're out of a job.
Speaker 1: All right, I'm sure that whatever conversations he had on
Speaker 1: Monday crystallized enough that whatever opportunities he has are not
Speaker 1: going to vanish once he releases a statement on Instagram.
Speaker 1: You know he's not going to have those jobs go
Speaker 1: away today. So he needed to have that security before
Speaker 1: he made the statement. So yeah, I agree with you
Speaker 1: on that, But I do think that this was a
Speaker 1: standalone day of saying good bye to the Patriots, letting
Speaker 1: New England process it, letting that happen, and then he'll
Speaker 1: just declare who was supposed to go to play for next?
Speaker 1: If you could ask Bill Belichick one question today, that
Speaker 1: question would be, and he'll answer it. Why didn't you
Speaker 1: sign him to two years and fifty million dollars last year?
Speaker 1: Why didn't you do this last August? Why didn't you
Speaker 1: get it done then? I don't know if he wanted to.
Speaker 1: I don't think he did either, but I don't. I mean,
Speaker 1: you've been around him. I go back to every time
Speaker 1: when somebody says, man, they have to get along, they
Speaker 1: have to like you, so they're a mutual respect. When
Speaker 1: I asked Brady at the super Bowl and I did
Speaker 1: the interview with him, I said, do you think you
Speaker 1: and Bill will ever open up the scrap book and
Speaker 1: you know, take a trip down memory lane? He goes, no,
Speaker 1: like you gotta He laughed. It was like, you got
Speaker 1: to be crazy. Do you think we're ever going to
Speaker 1: do that? So this is business for Bill, and I
Speaker 1: applaud Brady for realizing, don't you may have bruised feelings,
Speaker 1: make it business, because if you sit here in mope
Speaker 1: and feel bad and oh woe's me, and you know what,
Speaker 1: you're gonna miss out on the opportunity to treat it
Speaker 1: his business, just like Belichick does. So match him. Check me.
Speaker 1: All right, you want to make it business, I'll make
Speaker 1: it business too. And here you go, Bill, good luck
Speaker 1: exactly right. And how could Tommy ruin Saint Patty's day
Speaker 1: in Boston? Well, it's weak, it's rainy, it's everybody's stuck
Speaker 1: in their house. Anyway, at least you get some part
Speaker 1: of what we like to do is irish, is crying
Speaker 1: out here. I think today the your your your mug
Speaker 1: will never get empty because the tears will just keep
Speaker 1: refilling it. So it's a it's a it's a bottomless
Speaker 1: mug that you're gonna have today. People are sad. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's there's much sadness right now. Keep your head up though,
Speaker 1: all right, man, you go right a damn column, oh
Speaker 1: a dan column? Or a damn column? Oh okay, all right,
Speaker 1: well good luck with that, all right, buddy, Thank you
Speaker 1: Tom for following along. It's good nice you Alationship. Probably
Speaker 1: not talk to you in a long time. You had
Speaker 1: a good run there, you had a good run. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go to the wake of our relationship, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say nice things about you. Didn't he used
Speaker 1: to be Dan Patrick. All right, I'll see thank you.
Speaker 1: Tom that's tom E. Curran with the initial E, not Tommy.
Speaker 1: There's only one Tommy in Boston. Well, there's Tommy Hinson
Speaker 1: as well. All we'll take a break here, check in
Speaker 1: with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and phone calls coming up
Speaker 1: as well. A lot to get to today. Stat of
Speaker 1: the seat and how you feeling being a Patriots fan.
Speaker 1: I'm good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The the word rebuild keeps
Speaker 1: running through my mind. No, we we reload, yeah we
Speaker 1: They had done that at some point this last season.
Speaker 1: We reload and you reload our muskets there. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: gotta figure out how I'm gonna break that news to
Speaker 1: a little boy who's probably still sleeping in from day
Speaker 1: off the school day he wakes up. Maybe mom will
Speaker 1: take care of that. Yeah, can you ask your mother?
Speaker 1: Can you break the news that Tawny is not going
Speaker 1: to be back? Because he was devastated when Dion Lewis left.
Speaker 1: So I can only imagine TV twelve yeah, stag allright,
Speaker 1: will take a break, check in with the Buccaneers and
Speaker 1: your phone calls are coming up next twenty after the hour.
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Speaker 1: have some corn beef on the way. Now we're talking. Yep. Well,
Speaker 1: we were going to have the bagpipes in, but you
Speaker 1: know the social distancing and I understood that. So I thought, well,
Speaker 1: I gotta have something that says Saint Patty's day to day.
Speaker 1: And if you're in New England and you wake up
Speaker 1: and Tom Brady is no longer a Patriot, I mean
Speaker 1: you need your spirits lifted a little bit, at least
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Speaker 1: here next hour. Sorry mclovin, the fact that mclovin is
Speaker 1: not going to be able to enjoy the corn beef
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Speaker 1: worst news so far this week. I update the poll results,
Speaker 1: got some phone calls and we'll check in with the
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Okay, the new poll is who is
Speaker 1: most likely to start for the Patriots Week one? Actually,
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton is still leading that despite Tom Curran's comment
Speaker 1: that he's got in Playboy. Yeah. I don't know enough
Speaker 1: about Jared Stidham and you know what they think of him.
Speaker 1: My sorts who text me this morning about the Patriots situation,
Speaker 1: and he thinks the Patriots moved on from Tom Brady,
Speaker 1: but out of respect to Robert Kraft that he wanted
Speaker 1: to meet with him to say goodbye. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he's going to have that meeting with Bill Belichick.
Speaker 1: You you didn't. I don't know if that's on the
Speaker 1: way to Craft's house where you stop in and you're
Speaker 1: gonna see Bill. But that might have been the situation
Speaker 1: where he's going to say goodbye to Robert Kraft. I
Speaker 1: wish you well, thank you for everything you did. You
Speaker 1: can hug and then uh, you know he's he's on
Speaker 1: his way out the door. But probably this situation. Also
Speaker 1: in my story said, hey, go back to Mike Mayock
Speaker 1: when he was working for the NFL network, and who's
Speaker 1: the quarterback he really loved in the draft with Jameis Winston.
Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota. He loved, he liked him more than he
Speaker 1: did Jamis Winston. So just you know he's a Raider now.
Speaker 1: But just something to file away when you look at
Speaker 1: that move that the Raiders made with Marcus Mariota, that's
Speaker 1: the guy you buy low and you can sell high.
Speaker 1: I would have I would have taken a flyer on
Speaker 1: him if I was the Raiders, New England some of
Speaker 1: these other teams. He asked mccleman, how about draft to
Speaker 1: a guy like a Jilt Hurt, a mid round guy,
Speaker 1: and maybe a mobile guy. Well, I don't know. Once again,
Speaker 1: you're trying to get into the mind of Belichick of
Speaker 1: what he's going to need, and you already got a
Speaker 1: young quarterback. I don't know if you want to bring
Speaker 1: in another young quarterback. It feels like you need somebody
Speaker 1: who is got some you know, veteran skills, leadership skills,
Speaker 1: who's been through the wars a little bit here before.
Speaker 1: You want to bring in another young quarterback? Kevin and
Speaker 1: Chicago joins us Hi, Kevin, what do you have for me? Hey?
Speaker 1: Dan six two one eighty five, first time a long time.
Speaker 1: So I'm thinking that let's say, let's are if you're
Speaker 1: a fan of the Chargers, the Bears, maybe even the Bucks.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you feel pretty dirty about winning games with a
Speaker 1: guy like Tom Brady. Wait, if you're a Bears fan
Speaker 1: and you're gonna feel dirty winning games, Paula, you're a
Speaker 1: Bears fan, I feel horrible by myself a lot. I'd
Speaker 1: rather ran as well. Come on, Kevin was a franchise quarterback.
Speaker 1: That's not my franchise quarterback. That's somebody else's. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think if you're a Bears fan, you might take him
Speaker 1: on loan there. But thanks for the phone called Kevin.
Speaker 1: I thought Bears fans are desperate for anybody who can
Speaker 1: play the position that I confirm Brady would not go there.
Speaker 1: That's where quarterbacks go to die. Let me go to
Speaker 1: JP and then we'll check in with the Buccaneers. Hey, JP,
Speaker 1: how's morale? Morale is not too good? Dan five ten,
Speaker 1: one ninety three. It's probably gonna go up over the
Speaker 1: next few days with you know, comfort eating. So I
Speaker 1: used to call you guys a lot when I lived
Speaker 1: in Los Angeles. I had to move back to Boston
Speaker 1: in September take care of some family stuff. But why
Speaker 1: I'm calling is I'm telling sorry for myself and being
Speaker 1: completely self centered because when I moved to the West
Speaker 1: Coast in two thousand and two, that's when all the
Speaker 1: stuff started happening great around here. And then when I
Speaker 1: moved back in September, the idea started. In around July,
Speaker 1: everything started falling off. The wheel started falling off. The
Speaker 1: wagon for Boston sports bookie bets, the red Saux collapse,
Speaker 1: the Bruins stand the Cup game seven loss. I mean
Speaker 1: now this, I mean it's got to be me of
Speaker 1: trying not to take it personally. I think you should
Speaker 1: move back to La JP. My friends are telling me
Speaker 1: that there my parents. Okay, well, thanks for calling JP.
Speaker 1: I feel your pain. I can hear your pain. I
Speaker 1: don't know how you feel if you're Tampa Bay Buccaneer
Speaker 1: right now. If you're Bruce Arians, I don't know how
Speaker 1: you feel. And if you're a fan, do you feel
Speaker 1: like is that who we want? Tom Brady? Does that
Speaker 1: make the most sense? Or does Teddy Bridgewater make the
Speaker 1: most sense. Rick Stroud has been all over this. He
Speaker 1: covers the Buccaneers for the Tampa Bay Times. Rick, how
Speaker 1: do you think Buccaneer fans are feeling right now to
Speaker 1: that news from Tom Brady? Yeah, I'll make it easy
Speaker 1: for you. Hell yeah. You know, this is a franchise
Speaker 1: that hasn't been relevant since two thousand and two when
Speaker 1: they won the Super Bowl. They've they've missed the playoffs
Speaker 1: and buy a lot twelve straight years, so TV twelve
Speaker 1: and TB. Yeah, I mean that they're all about it now.
Speaker 1: You know. We can't have nice things, right, That's that's
Speaker 1: the whole thing in Tampa. You know, the hockey team
Speaker 1: wins the President's Trophy and loses in four games the
Speaker 1: you know, the race win ninety seven, and now they're
Speaker 1: talking about going to Montreal. So you know, everybody's sort
Speaker 1: of like, if you're a fan here, you don't want
Speaker 1: to give your heart to this. But from an organizational standpoint,
Speaker 1: I mean, I would just say this, you know, consider
Speaker 1: Bruce arians having coach Peyton Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Carson Palmer,
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck. When Tom Brady you know, starts asking around
Speaker 1: and he looks at this football team, if it's a
Speaker 1: football decision, I think it's an easy one. How the
Speaker 1: Chargers are one year removed, you know, from being twelve
Speaker 1: and five. I don't know Anthony Lynn that well. I mean,
Speaker 1: you know, La, it's home state. But I've kind of
Speaker 1: felt for a while that, you know, that the Bucks
Speaker 1: are really a place that he could end up. And
Speaker 1: I know it sounds ridiculous in some ways, the Patriots
Speaker 1: to the Bucks, but that's where we're at. Well. Also,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to figure that when when Tampa's all in,
Speaker 1: or at least that's the report all in and I
Speaker 1: think you had this report, what is all in? Mean? Well,
Speaker 1: what it means is is that they're not going to
Speaker 1: be outbid in terms of salary. I mean they had
Speaker 1: almost over eighty million dollars in salary cap space. That
Speaker 1: probably went up a little bit, you know. Like I said,
Speaker 1: I think what it means is they're going to make
Speaker 1: as good of a pitch as they can possibly make.
Speaker 1: If he wants, you know, if he's worried about the offense, Okay,
Speaker 1: it's too vertical, not enough protection. I want to do.
Speaker 1: I want to run what I do. I don't think
Speaker 1: that's going to be a problem for Bruce Arians. And
Speaker 1: Bruce Arians has coached a long time Byron left which
Speaker 1: will work with Brady for game planning purposes. Um, you know,
Speaker 1: Clyde Christians And was Peyton Manning's offensive coordinator after Tony
Speaker 1: Dungee left. They went to a Super Bowl and Peyton
Speaker 1: brand Peyton's offense. Now, obviously they were going to change it,
Speaker 1: but my point is it's a it's something he could
Speaker 1: get if he if he wanted, you know, a slot
Speaker 1: receiver that you know could work underneath, like Edelman or
Speaker 1: somebody like that. I mean, they would they would work
Speaker 1: with him to try to make him comfortable. But there's
Speaker 1: already lots of weapons here and they're going to draft
Speaker 1: a offensive lineman. Maybe you're running back that can catch.
Speaker 1: So you know, the defense the last six weeks were
Speaker 1: among the best in the NFL. Those young guys grew up.
Speaker 1: They resigned Jason Pierre Paul, They franchise Shack Barrett, who
Speaker 1: led the league in sacks. There are some football pieces here,
Speaker 1: but it's Tampa Bay. You know, it's like a great
Speaker 1: place to live. All those things. That's that's what I mean.
Speaker 1: They're gonna sell him, but mostly if he comes, I
Speaker 1: think it's gonna because of Bruce Arians Is James Winston
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback in the NFL in your opinion, I
Speaker 1: think he's going to have to work his way back
Speaker 1: to that. Dan Um. You know, he's he's got talent,
Speaker 1: there's no doubt about it. I mean, the guy can
Speaker 1: absolutely rip the ball down the field. The problem is,
Speaker 1: and I've had to describe to me, you know, he's
Speaker 1: a slow twitch guy in a quick twitch position. He
Speaker 1: doesn't make decisions fast enough at times. Um. You know,
Speaker 1: most of the throws that get him in trouble are
Speaker 1: you know underneath and uh, and he doesn't give up
Speaker 1: on plays when he should at times. He's a talented
Speaker 1: guy who works his ass off. He deserves to start
Speaker 1: in this league. He's one of the top thirty two quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: I have no doubt about that. But he may have to,
Speaker 1: you know, go to Ryan Tanney Hill route and maybe
Speaker 1: back up a wibbly starter somewhere and when he gets
Speaker 1: his chance, you know, light it up. What's plan B
Speaker 1: for the Bucketeers that if you with on Tom Brady, Well,
Speaker 1: I think you're gonna go from TV twelve to TV five.
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater, Yeah, which which is a bigger you know,
Speaker 1: kind of a shot in the stomach, which you look
Speaker 1: at it that way. But uh, but but Teddy did
Speaker 1: a good job against him last year. You know, they
Speaker 1: played the Saints. He threw for three hundred and four touchdowns.
Speaker 1: So I remember Bruce arians coming in after that game saying, man,
Speaker 1: I love Teddy and he should be a starter in
Speaker 1: this league. Well, you know, he may have to give
Speaker 1: him that opportunity. Are you here to guarantee that the
Speaker 1: next quarterback of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers will have the
Speaker 1: initials TV? I think so, I think I think you know,
Speaker 1: TV five, TV twelve for Tampa Bay. You know, it's
Speaker 1: it's made to order, Dan, I think they have to
Speaker 1: just go ahead and start filling the number later, you know,
Speaker 1: just put the TV there. And but I'm worried. This
Speaker 1: is what I'm worried about with Brady. Does Brady look
Speaker 1: good in those Tampa Bay uniforms? That's well, here's the thing, Dan,
Speaker 1: I mean, and they must they must have been, you know,
Speaker 1: anticipating this because they're changing them. They're changing the uniform.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine him walking out or help maybe Giselle,
Speaker 1: you know, modeling the new ones. I mean, they're going
Speaker 1: back to the getting rid of the alarm clock numbers.
Speaker 1: That was a bad idea, and they're going back to
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, you know, block letters, more traditional uniforms.
Speaker 1: I think the cream Sickle fits Brady, Ricky Bell, Doug Williams,
Speaker 1: cream Sickle. I love them. I mean, I love those uniforms.
Speaker 1: But you know, people hated them when they were losing,
Speaker 1: and if you win, they only get good if you win,
Speaker 1: when they didn't cut them off. But Rick, when you win,
Speaker 1: it's amazing how good a uniform looks. I'm telling you
Speaker 1: that's absolutely true. So yeah, I tell it won't matter
Speaker 1: what uniform you wears. If it's Tom Brady. He looks
Speaker 1: good in anything. Right. Do you think that there's a
Speaker 1: decision by the end of the week with Tom Brady? Um,
Speaker 1: I think that they'll have to be what you know,
Speaker 1: he can't really sign with anybody. I think until what
Speaker 1: Wednesday afore? Yeah, but yeah, I think buddy, you know
Speaker 1: we put these teams need to know. I mean Teddy Bridgewater,
Speaker 1: you know it is going to have an opportunity to
Speaker 1: go someplace. We thought he was going to be a bear.
Speaker 1: Why didn't we see that coming, Teddy Bear? Um? But
Speaker 1: it turned out that you know, they're going another way
Speaker 1: and imagine that Bridgewater to some extent Winston. Look, it's
Speaker 1: not out of the question, Okay, that Jamis comes back here.
Speaker 1: If he goes out, can't find a starting job with
Speaker 1: starters money, the Bucks strike out some free agents, you know,
Speaker 1: they may have him back. But right now, I know
Speaker 1: it sounds weird, But Tom Brady, I've guaranteed that the
Speaker 1: Buccaneers are making the playoffs. I just don't know if
Speaker 1: I can continue to make that bet. If Jamis Winston's
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback, I have to retract that yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know how you could. I mean, you know, he's
Speaker 1: been here five years. He would have made it under
Speaker 1: the new rules, though Dan didn't everybody make the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Now think like he well Eames or fourteen teams, you know,
Speaker 1: I think he made he'd have made it tall what
Speaker 1: he would have made it back in what was it
Speaker 1: seven sixteen when they were nine and seven under the
Speaker 1: under the new rules where everybody gets in, so you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: he'd have a shot. He's not gonna throw thirty Well,
Speaker 1: he he comes back. Thirty touchdowns are thirty interceptions. He's
Speaker 1: twenty twenty for twenty twenty and that's the motto now
Speaker 1: with his new vision and everything. To me, I love
Speaker 1: that he gets everybody involved offense, defense, the opposition. Everybody
Speaker 1: gets involved with. I think he's the most fascinating player
Speaker 1: in the NFL because and not in a good way.
Speaker 1: I can't take my eyes I can't take my eyes
Speaker 1: off James Winston when he's out there. I just remember
Speaker 1: John Gruden used to talk about quarters the day. It's
Speaker 1: like a riot on the cheet crow man, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, He's all over the place. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's it is you can't look down to get a
Speaker 1: you know, a freaking glass of water without seeing somebody
Speaker 1: running with the ball somewhere. So he is exciting and
Speaker 1: he has talent, and I really do believe this. I
Speaker 1: think he'll play fifteen years and he don't find himself
Speaker 1: in a super Bowl. I don't know if it's the
Speaker 1: way Doug Williams did it, or Trent Jifford or what.
Speaker 1: But everybody that leaves Tampa, as you know, it's a quarterback,
Speaker 1: you've got to go to a super Bowl. Good pole
Speaker 1: on the John Gruden impersonation there. I like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well six years, listen to John more than Frank Kelly
Speaker 1: at that point. Thank you, Rick, we'll be reading, we'll
Speaker 1: be following. Thank you for joining us. That's Rick Stroud.
Speaker 1: He covers the Buccaneers for the Tampa Bay Times. That's
Speaker 1: a good appearance there. Uh let me see, let me
Speaker 1: get to moo in Arizona. Hey, Mo, what do you
Speaker 1: have for me? Hey? How's it going down? Good? Monet? Okay,
Speaker 1: Look I got a conspiracy there. We all know that
Speaker 1: Belichick is a ewell genius and he loves Garoppolo. Would
Speaker 1: that not make sense for Tom Brady to go to
Speaker 1: the Niners. It doesn't make sense for the Niners. I mean,
Speaker 1: all for it. If you want to have chaos, great,
Speaker 1: But if I'm the Niners, you got your quarterback, you
Speaker 1: almost want a super Bowl and he's the future. He's
Speaker 1: fifteen years younger than Tom Brady is clearly understand that.
Speaker 1: But you know, it's all about winning right now. So
Speaker 1: if we can get two years out of Brady and
Speaker 1: Garoppolo is basically Alex Smith's twin brother or Alex you know,
Speaker 1: Smith's twin brother. So if we go and do that
Speaker 1: and switch it over, why would that not make sense
Speaker 1: for the Niners? Because we get two years and the
Speaker 1: two years in garppolers and win. They're going to trade
Speaker 1: them off anyway, or pick you get a pick any
Speaker 1: We got a thirteen. We got the thirteenth pick, so
Speaker 1: we can send to Belichick and you know Belichick, I
Speaker 1: don't we don't know who he's gonna pick. But who
Speaker 1: picked somebody with that thirteenth pick? Yeah, well good luck
Speaker 1: with that, mo. I don't see that happening. Chris Simms,
Speaker 1: who is really good friends with Kyle Sanahan, reported on
Speaker 1: Sunday that the Niners had moved on from Tom Brady.
Speaker 1: I don't know if somebody goes, oh, Brady actually did it.
Speaker 1: He went in and said goodbye to the Patriots. Now
Speaker 1: let's get serious about this. I don't know if that's
Speaker 1: going to happen or not. I think Brady went in,
Speaker 1: and I do think the spin on this is very
Speaker 1: important in New England. Did Tom say goodbye? Did the
Speaker 1: Patriots say goodbye? Do the Patriots not want Tom Brady?
Speaker 1: Brady doesn't want that, you know, the Patriots. I think
Speaker 1: the spin on this is really interesting to watch because
Speaker 1: I get the feeling Belichick had already moved on from
Speaker 1: Tom Brady when he didn't want him for two years
Speaker 1: for fifty million dollars. He was already saying, look when
Speaker 1: this ends, it ends, and then I move on with this.
Speaker 1: Ya see. Who do you think then has more pressure
Speaker 1: on them coming up this season? Brady or Belichick. I
Speaker 1: think that's the final hour poll question. I think that's
Speaker 1: a great question there. It depends on how this comes out.
Speaker 1: That if the Patriots didn't want him, but he wanted
Speaker 1: to go back, then you might have some sympathy for
Speaker 1: Tom to say, well, you know, he had to go
Speaker 1: to Tampa because the Patriots didn't want him, Belichick. I
Speaker 1: think there's more pressure because Belichick's saying, in my opinion,
Speaker 1: we don't want you, Tom, and I can do this
Speaker 1: with somebody else. I can take some you know, mid
Speaker 1: round draft pick, and I can make magic. And you've
Speaker 1: got every decent wide receiver signing everywhere elsewhere. He brought
Speaker 1: back a mccordy and Matthew Slater, who is cool and all.
Speaker 1: But yeah, everybody else that's believing. I want to know
Speaker 1: if Edelman, how Edelman feels today. I gotta believe there's
Speaker 1: some tears there. But he's already been given a heads
Speaker 1: up here, I'm sure. But remember Edelman at the Syracuse game.
Speaker 1: He's telling that he's coming back, and Tom gave him
Speaker 1: Matt look like, hey, Pip squeak all side, a little brother,
Speaker 1: shut up here. All right, we'll take a break. That'll
Speaker 1: be the poll question. How about that, Well, we'll put
Speaker 1: that one up. Who gets another Super Bowl? Ring Brady R? Belichick.
Speaker 1: I think the pressure part of it is is good.
Speaker 1: Let's see where Brady ends up and then we could
Speaker 1: ask that question. But I think who has more pressure,
Speaker 1: you know, just from the separation here. We'll take a break.
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Speaker 1: to your phone calls coming up. This from the New
Speaker 1: England Patriots. A press release by Bill Belichick, Patriots head coach. Well,
Speaker 1: they drew that up quickly after last night's meeting. I'll
Speaker 1: get to the last paragraph here. Sometimes in life, sometimes
Speaker 1: if it takes some time to pass before truly appreciating
Speaker 1: something or someone, but that has not been the case
Speaker 1: with Tom. He's a special person in the greatest quarterback
Speaker 1: of all time. Bill Belichick, Patriots head coach. Hey, I
Speaker 1: probably had that press release ready at some point there,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna guess, but Belichick saying goodbye to Tom, not
Speaker 1: in person, but Robert Kraft did last night. According to
Speaker 1: Tom Kerran had the conversation with Robert Kraft earlier today
Speaker 1: and they parted way. We don't know where he's going.
Speaker 1: Tampa Bay's all in, Chargers probably all in, and I
Speaker 1: guess the Niners were at least interested, but according to
Speaker 1: Chris Simms, that they finally got around to backing their guy,
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo. Still, that was bizarre where you go. All
Speaker 1: Kyle shanahans to do was saying, hey, we got our guy,
Speaker 1: and that he didn't. So I think that they were
Speaker 1: interested to a certain degree because they didn't refute this
Speaker 1: and the fact that the tight we're using Brady as
Speaker 1: leverage to get Ryan Tannehill to resign. I thought that
Speaker 1: was interesting as well. Nate in Vermont, Nate, how are
Speaker 1: you today doing? Great? Dan? Six four two five. I
Speaker 1: got the perfect landing spot for Brady, same crappy weather.
Speaker 1: We just got Stefan Diggs. Great team. Only Josh Allen
Speaker 1: is the only thing that held us back the Buffalo Bills. No,
Speaker 1: I don't see that this is a lifestyle chap. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's a lifestyle change for Tom, but that ain't happening.
Speaker 1: And you got Stefan Diggs, and you know, you got
Speaker 1: a guy who can give you a deep threat there.
Speaker 1: If Josh Allen figures out how to play the position
Speaker 1: and becomes an accurate passer, then you're gonna have a
Speaker 1: whole lot of fun because I do like what Buffalo did.
Speaker 1: You know where I stood with them and making the
Speaker 1: playoffs last year, and you know I said they were
Speaker 1: a ten win team. You know, getting Digs, you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully you keep him happy because that's another thing that
Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't happy in Minnesota because that's a
Speaker 1: run first team and you know, Adam Feeling was probably
Speaker 1: the favorite of kirkt Cousins, but the Viking ship digs
Speaker 1: to the Bills for draft picks. He tied for the
Speaker 1: league lead with eight catches for at least forty yards.
Speaker 1: The entire Bills team had exactly eight passing plays go
Speaker 1: for at least forty yards last season. Dave in Illinois
Speaker 1: joins us this morning. Dave, what do you have for me? Hi? Dan?
Speaker 1: Thanks very much, six foot one sixty five. Now, everything
Speaker 1: that's going on in the afeast, I know Buffalo is
Speaker 1: stacked up, and I know Miami is stacked up. Well,
Speaker 1: please give me a glimmer of hope. Said that my
Speaker 1: beloved said might, might, might. I can't give you. I
Speaker 1: can't give you a glimmer of hope, Dave, But thanks
Speaker 1: for calling. I mean, I can't even mask it. I
Speaker 1: can't even fake it. Now. Maybe if your quarterback is
Speaker 1: healthy the entire year, that's a good start. I just
Speaker 1: don't have a lot of confidence in your head coach
Speaker 1: because he feels like he should be a coordinator, not
Speaker 1: a head coach. Other than that, you should be fine
Speaker 1: this year. What's going to happen with Levon Bell? What
Speaker 1: exactly is going on with the Jets the Texans. You
Speaker 1: shocked everybody by trading DeAndre Hopkins to Arizona yesterday, and
Speaker 1: I was curious about this. Hopkins has made first team
Speaker 1: All Pro in each of the last three seasons. He's
Speaker 1: only twenty seven The last skilled position player to make
Speaker 1: All Pro First team three straight seasons and that not
Speaker 1: return to his team the following season. Jim Brown, he retired.
Speaker 1: So that's how long it's been. That's how crazy that was.
Speaker 1: And look, I had a source say DeAndre Hopkins over
Speaker 1: valued himself, could be a pain in the butt. But
Speaker 1: if you're Bill O'Brien, you still have a great You
Speaker 1: have Deshaun Watson. He needs to have people to throw too,
Speaker 1: you know, he runs for his wife all the time.
Speaker 1: And I got a guy who is by all accounts,
Speaker 1: one of the top three wide receivers in the game.
Speaker 1: He is durable, consistent, and he's a beast out there.
Speaker 1: And then you trade him, and then you get a
Speaker 1: running back who used to be good and you didn't
Speaker 1: need him. Still crazy. Got to be something more to
Speaker 1: that deal. It feels like two hours in the books,
Speaker 1: one more to go. More phone calls coming up set
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