WEBVTT - #312 Packers Unscripted: Raider review 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:21.079 Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:24.400 I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my trusted colleague 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:26.880 West Hodkowits were coming to you here from our studios 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:30.800 at lambeau Field, back from Oakland, California, West. So let's 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:34.519 dive right into preseason game number three. For me, this 0:00:34.600 --> 0:00:38.040 one starts with those top two draft picks of the 0:00:38.080 --> 0:00:40.120 Packers from back in April, because I tell you what, 0:00:40.440 --> 0:00:44.159 you're Alexander and Josh Jackson. They continue to look like keepers, 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:46.680 they really do, Mike, and the other thing that Josh 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:48.960 Jackson looks like he was a first round pick. Yeah, 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:51.560 people just happen to be sleeping on for one reason 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.720 or another. I mean, basically, every single thing I think 0:00:55.000 --> 0:00:58.040 was seen as a weakness for Jackson has really been 0:00:58.120 --> 0:01:00.680 somewhat of a strength in this preseason. And I get it. 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.680 These aren't the starting quarterbacks out there, these aren't mostly 0:01:03.720 --> 0:01:05.679 the number one offenses. But when they have been on 0:01:05.680 --> 0:01:08.800 the field, he's played pretty darn well too. I love 0:01:08.840 --> 0:01:11.160 the versatility of him, and I love his playmaking ability 0:01:11.240 --> 0:01:13.520 and and everything he showed in that one year as 0:01:13.520 --> 0:01:17.199 a starter at Iowa. It's transitioned into the NFL. Now 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:20.800 the record books ten fifteen years down the line. People 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.120 might forget that he had another pick six in this game, 0:01:23.160 --> 0:01:27.839 but that interception in thirty six is return yard returned 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.560 for a touchdown. Had nothing to do with the Herb 0:01:30.560 --> 0:01:32.520 Waters holding call on the other side of the field. 0:01:33.000 --> 0:01:34.800 He just made a play on the ball and was 0:01:34.880 --> 0:01:39.200 unfortunately an unlucky participant there. But back to back pick 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.880 sixes and and also JayR Alexander finally get his first 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:46.880 extended action getting his first interception in the slot. Very 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:50.080 exciting about what what these guys have put on film 0:01:50.160 --> 0:01:53.040 so far. Yeah, what I really liked about what Alexander 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:55.720 did is that he was tested right off the bat 0:01:55.720 --> 0:01:57.960 in this game. First play, he's lined up across from 0:01:58.000 --> 0:02:01.960 Amari Cooper. Derek Carr goes eap Alexander's right there. You 0:02:02.000 --> 0:02:04.040 can't really cover the play any better. You just got 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:06.800 out jumped for the ball by a bigger receiver and 0:02:06.840 --> 0:02:10.040 a Pro Bowl caliber receiver at that. Hey, that's gonna happen. 0:02:10.120 --> 0:02:12.760 That's how That's how this league has played. But you 0:02:12.800 --> 0:02:15.359 know what, it didn't bother him. He just he got up. 0:02:15.360 --> 0:02:18.040 He kept playing and then later on when the Raiders 0:02:18.040 --> 0:02:21.520 are driving for a potential touchdown, makes a really a 0:02:21.600 --> 0:02:26.440 tremendous catch to to snag that interception on on that 0:02:26.520 --> 0:02:30.120 middle steam route. And uh, you know, Mike McCarthy said it. 0:02:30.280 --> 0:02:33.840 You know, the ball skills of Alexander and Jackson were 0:02:34.240 --> 0:02:36.920 um the biggest selling points, I guess you might say 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.560 heading into the draft. And these guys have come as 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.800 advertised that that catch that Alexander made, the catch that 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.680 Jackson made on his pick six the previous week, and 0:02:45.720 --> 0:02:47.600 then the fact that he just took the ball away 0:02:47.760 --> 0:02:50.360 in the Raiders game by the sideline for what should 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:53.040 have been another pick six. These guys know how to 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.040 play the ball that just and those are the kinds 0:02:55.040 --> 0:02:57.680 of things you can't necessarily coach it. You can't teach it. 0:02:57.680 --> 0:03:01.000 It's instinctive and it's the way they play the game. 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:02.720 And I think these guys are going to see the 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:06.160 field plenty for the Packers. And that's the exciting thing too, 0:03:06.200 --> 0:03:08.160 is because you have Joe wit Jr. There and obviously 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:11.639 him now working with with Jason Simmons as the position 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:14.280 coaches for that room. There's things that they're going to 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:16.480 work with both of those young players about what the 0:03:16.520 --> 0:03:19.920 thing you got to like about, especially in Jackson's cases, 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:22.919 that this one month that he's been in Green Bay 0:03:22.919 --> 0:03:25.760 and training camp, you've seen the progression. I asked him 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:27.720 about that after the game in the locker room. It 0:03:27.840 --> 0:03:29.880 just so happened the two were actually sharing a visiting 0:03:30.080 --> 0:03:35.280 locker in a very small Oakland Colisseum locker room, and 0:03:35.320 --> 0:03:38.280 he said it too, is that he's this past month 0:03:38.320 --> 0:03:40.320 has allowed him to get into a rhythm, get back 0:03:40.360 --> 0:03:44.760 to feeling comfortable in playing instinctual because you can rep 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:46.720 fundamentals as much as you want, you can do all 0:03:46.720 --> 0:03:49.000 the drills that you want during these training camp practices. 0:03:49.400 --> 0:03:51.960 It's all intended to guys playing fast and playing with 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:55.400 their instincts and playing disciplined football, and they've both done 0:03:55.400 --> 0:03:58.000 that in the small sample size we've seen. I wrote 0:03:58.040 --> 0:04:01.120 about this to an insider inbox from day Mike, the 0:04:01.160 --> 0:04:03.080 thing that I think is the most exciting right now 0:04:03.120 --> 0:04:06.360 for the Packers is, for the first time ever, at 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:09.440 least I think since maybe two thousand fourteen, I would 0:04:09.520 --> 0:04:12.640 argue the Packers really don't feel a rush to get 0:04:12.680 --> 0:04:14.880 any of these rookies on the field right away. If 0:04:14.880 --> 0:04:17.200 you feel like Josh Jackson's ready, sure put him out there. 0:04:17.240 --> 0:04:20.240 Same thing with Joie Alexander. But as it stands right now, 0:04:20.279 --> 0:04:22.039 these guys aren't just gonna have to get thrown out 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:25.919 there by attrition or just a lack of depth at 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.520 the position. You have Tremont Williams, who's playing some pretty 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:31.719 good ball right now at thirty five years old. I 0:04:31.720 --> 0:04:34.040 thought Devon House has put together a pretty good camp 0:04:34.080 --> 0:04:37.160 coming back, and if Kevin kings shoulder checks out, he 0:04:37.200 --> 0:04:39.840 can get into the regular season and there's no issues there. 0:04:40.400 --> 0:04:43.640 That's a pretty good starting point for a starting cornerback corps. 0:04:44.040 --> 0:04:45.880 So to be able to incorporate those guys in the 0:04:45.920 --> 0:04:48.280 fact that the Packers, as we'll talk about, shortly traded 0:04:48.320 --> 0:04:51.359 Lindsay Pipkins over the weekend really speaks the fact that 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:53.040 this is a deep position for them now and it's 0:04:53.080 --> 0:04:55.599 a lot better situation they were putting going in the 0:04:55.680 --> 0:04:57.800 last year. Yeah. I think it's interesting what you said 0:04:57.839 --> 0:05:01.160 about Josh Jackson that he looks like first round pick 0:05:01.240 --> 0:05:03.760 that maybe people were sleeping on kind of a double 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:05.640 edged sword there in the sense that I think the 0:05:05.640 --> 0:05:07.640 fact that he was only a starter for one year 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:10.000 in Iowa, I know there were some questions about his 0:05:10.000 --> 0:05:11.760 speed and all that, but when you look at it, 0:05:12.000 --> 0:05:14.159 he was a starter for one season in college in 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.880 the Big Ten. I think that scared some teams off 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:19.560 from taking him in the first round, but you mentioned it, 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:22.560 Look how much progress he's made already in the NFL. 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.600 He only started for one year in college, so the 0:05:25.640 --> 0:05:28.560 ceiling is so much higher. There's so much further that 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:32.919 he can potentially go because he's not a polished, finished 0:05:32.920 --> 0:05:34.960 product coming out of college. So I just think that's 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:36.800 something that's interesting to keep an eye on as we 0:05:36.880 --> 0:05:38.720 go forward with Jackson. When you and I were in 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:42.680 Indianapolis in February, who are the two cornerbacks that everybody 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:44.839 was looking at is potentially the top two in this 0:05:44.920 --> 0:05:47.360 draft class? It was Denzel Ward and it was Josh Jackson. 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:50.360 Josh Jackson had a huge horde of media around him 0:05:50.800 --> 0:05:54.760 at that podium, and I've just remember Draft night, especially 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:56.640 after the first round passed, you saw he was still 0:05:56.680 --> 0:05:58.560 on the board, and then you get in the middle 0:05:58.560 --> 0:06:01.880 of the second round. Sometimes it's like you do wonder, Okay, 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.880 is there something that everybody missed on this guy? And 0:06:03.920 --> 0:06:07.040 other times it's like why is this guy still available, 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.479 and is this a potential potential diamond in the rough. 0:06:09.920 --> 0:06:12.280 A long way to go here with both of these 0:06:12.279 --> 0:06:14.640 young players, with JayR Alexander as well, but sure, I 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:16.920 just think Alexander fits the prototype for what you want 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:19.159 to look for. And maybe a slack cornerback that Casey 0:06:19.200 --> 0:06:21.680 Hayward type that can be a playmaker there but also 0:06:21.720 --> 0:06:24.400 give you some versatility outside. And a guy like Josh 0:06:24.440 --> 0:06:27.120 Jackson with his size. I said it from the beginning, Mike, 0:06:27.120 --> 0:06:29.440 even if he isn't a prototypical press man corner in 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:32.200 his terms of his background, he has that build to 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:34.440 play that position. Yeah, he does. He definitely has the 0:06:34.440 --> 0:06:38.520 physical characteristics you mentioned before. The trade of Lenzy Pipkins, 0:06:38.600 --> 0:06:41.159 so let's update everyone on that. For those who aren't aware, 0:06:41.480 --> 0:06:45.520 the Packers trade cornerback Lenzy Pipkins to the Indianapolis Colts 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:51.160 for inside linebacker Antonio Morrison, now third round draft picking 0:06:51.240 --> 0:06:54.279 rookie or In Burke's from Vanderbilt injured his shoulder in 0:06:54.320 --> 0:06:57.559 pregame warmups in Oakland on Friday night. But this trade 0:06:57.600 --> 0:07:01.960 for Morrison not necessarily just a reaction to the Burk's injury. 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:04.480 The m R I came back sounded it sounds like 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:07.240 things are fairly positive with Burkes. They're not They don't 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:10.440 have any long term concerns at this point with regards 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:15.440 to the shoulder, but acquiring Morrison an experienced inside linebacker 0:07:15.520 --> 0:07:17.960 to throw into a very young group that has a 0:07:18.040 --> 0:07:20.400 third year pro and Blake Martinez at the top of it. 0:07:20.480 --> 0:07:22.400 Jake Ryan, as we know, was out for the season 0:07:22.480 --> 0:07:24.840 with the torn a c L and then you have 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.040 Burks and a whole bunch of other guys who basically 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:30.760 haven't played regular season NFL snaps yet. So what's your 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:32.880 initial take. And I know we haven't even really talked 0:07:32.920 --> 0:07:34.880 to him yet as far as an interview at the 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:37.040 time that we're taping this, but what's your initial take 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:39.600 on the acquisition of Morris. It made a lot of sense, 0:07:39.640 --> 0:07:41.640 I think for both teams because, as I also wrote 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:44.040 on Inbox on Monday, I do think Lindsay Pipkins as 0:07:44.040 --> 0:07:46.760 an NFL player. I think the Packers found something when 0:07:46.760 --> 0:07:48.520 they when they signed him as a uf A last 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:52.080 year out of Oklahoma State, because I think he has 0:07:52.120 --> 0:07:54.520 the build for it. But where he was playing and 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:56.200 how they were using him it was very similar to 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:58.760 what they're doing with Alexander and with with Tremont Williams. 0:07:58.800 --> 0:08:01.200 I just don't know if the spot was there. Conversely, 0:08:01.640 --> 0:08:03.800 you look at what the Colts are going through right now. 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.720 They need help at cornerback. They were hurting it that spot, 0:08:07.040 --> 0:08:10.119 and they're transitioning into a four three defense where maybe 0:08:10.160 --> 0:08:13.200 Morrison didn't fit, you know where he did the previous 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:17.360 two years underneath the Chuck Pogano. So now that you 0:08:17.440 --> 0:08:20.040 have him available and you had Pipkins available, it made 0:08:20.040 --> 0:08:21.600 sense for both teams to make that trade in a 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:25.040 better opportunity for both players. Morrison's twenty three years old. 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:28.000 He was taken six spots before Blake Martinez back in 0:08:28.040 --> 0:08:30.680 the two thousand sixteen NFL Draft and has played over 0:08:30.760 --> 0:08:33.520 a thousand defensive snaps in the NFL. That's a lot 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.440 of experience for a twenty three year old NFL football player. 0:08:36.840 --> 0:08:39.079 So now being able to come into this defense, I 0:08:39.120 --> 0:08:42.000 said it from day one, Mike, you might have a starter. 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.640 You might have maybe maybe Burke's is fine, and he 0:08:44.720 --> 0:08:46.040 and he's your start of the whole year, and you 0:08:46.080 --> 0:08:49.319 have him in Martinez, but you need somebody else available there. 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:51.480 Joe Thomas has been that guy in the past. Jake 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:54.400 Ryan was that guy his rookie season. You need a 0:08:54.400 --> 0:08:56.720 guy that could potentially step into either of those positions 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:59.280 if there's an injury. I think Morrison is an opportunity 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:01.560 for get, for him to get back into a defense 0:09:01.559 --> 0:09:04.000 probably he's more comfortable with, and also for the Packers 0:09:04.040 --> 0:09:06.400 to get another look at a veteran in addition to 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:09.160 these undrafted free agents that they have currently competing for 0:09:09.200 --> 0:09:11.880 a spot behind Burkes and Martinez. Yeah, and the Packers 0:09:11.960 --> 0:09:14.200 like what they've seen certainly in this training camp in 0:09:14.240 --> 0:09:16.800 preseason so far from a mod Thomas who is a 0:09:16.800 --> 0:09:19.760 hold over from the practice squad, and then from Greer Martini, 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:23.280 an undrafted rookie in the mix here. But this really 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:27.160 was about adding some experience to a position that that 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:30.360 overall just had very very little, you know, basically no 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:34.800 regular season NFL experience outside of Blake Martinez. So I'm 0:09:34.800 --> 0:09:37.440 sure we'll have more to talk about with Morrison as 0:09:37.640 --> 0:09:40.719 uh as things move along. Another thing I wanted to 0:09:40.760 --> 0:09:42.920 get to though. We spent a lot of time through 0:09:42.960 --> 0:09:45.720 the off season on our shows, on the website, everywhere 0:09:45.760 --> 0:09:50.200 talking about the receiver competition for the Packers. On offense, 0:09:50.360 --> 0:09:55.400 and it's too Geronimo Allison's credit that we haven't really 0:09:55.400 --> 0:10:00.280 talked about him much because frankly, he simply hasn't done 0:10:00.280 --> 0:10:03.920 anything to lose his hold on that number three spot. 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.719 And the way the game against the Raiders opened up 0:10:06.800 --> 0:10:10.000 with Brett Hunley, he hit Allison on a sideline route, 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:13.000 a nice tiptoe catch there, and then hit him deep 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.480 down the sideline um for a big gainer that helped 0:10:16.480 --> 0:10:19.040 to set up a field goal. Geronimo Allison is the 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.960 number three receiver on on this team. They're simply in 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:24.520 my in my opinion, not taking nothing away from what 0:10:24.600 --> 0:10:27.680 Jake Crumo has done. What nice game from Jamon Moore 0:10:27.920 --> 0:10:30.959 in Oakland, other things we've seen from Velde Scantling and 0:10:31.000 --> 0:10:33.720 e q st Brown, But Geronimo Allison's your number three. 0:10:33.760 --> 0:10:37.200 I love the camp that Geronimo put together, especially after 0:10:37.240 --> 0:10:39.200 losing Jordy Nelson, and I know he's spent such a 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.760 big part of that room, a big part of this offense, 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:45.080 and obviously a close confident of Aaron Rodgers. But I 0:10:45.120 --> 0:10:47.760 think in the aftermath of that, it's really allowed Allison 0:10:47.800 --> 0:10:50.319 to shine. He did it throughout the off season program 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:52.400 and he's done it in training camp. Now is he 0:10:52.520 --> 0:10:56.400 making these big, spectacular fifty yard catches, you know, like 0:10:56.720 --> 0:10:59.520 Marcus Velde Scantling made in the first preseason game, or 0:10:59.520 --> 0:11:03.559 even some of the stuff that Jamond Moore did last weekend. 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:06.680 Maybe not, But I still think that thirty one yard 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:09.440 catch that he had against the Raiders and some of 0:11:09.440 --> 0:11:12.079 the things he's done in practice, he's just been so steady, 0:11:12.600 --> 0:11:15.320 so consistent, And when you talk to Aaron Rodgers, that's 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:17.440 the number one thing he wants out of his receivers. 0:11:17.480 --> 0:11:19.480 He wants consistency. He wants him to be in the 0:11:19.559 --> 0:11:21.440 right spot at the right time. I think what you 0:11:21.440 --> 0:11:23.480 see with Alison is a really talented young man that 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:26.040 was coming into his own somewhat learning a new position, 0:11:26.320 --> 0:11:29.000 considering how lady came to being a receiver and playing 0:11:29.320 --> 0:11:31.880 football in high school. And you've seen him mature over 0:11:31.880 --> 0:11:35.679 these past two years, and you cannot overstate, uh, just 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:39.440 how important that time has been with Rogers in this 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.040 offense and getting the opportunities he's had and being able 0:11:42.040 --> 0:11:43.839 to capitalize on him. So, yeah, going in the regular 0:11:43.840 --> 0:11:45.520 season right now, he's the guy. He's the guy that 0:11:45.559 --> 0:11:47.319 I think you're looking at to really be the one 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:50.520 that's going to be the biggest beneficiary of of that 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:52.720 number three spot being open. Yeah, and I think the 0:11:52.920 --> 0:11:55.000 I think the other thing that it kind of goes 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:57.200 without saying in the Green Bay locker room, but it's 0:11:57.200 --> 0:11:59.440 an example of just how well he fits in this 0:11:59.520 --> 0:12:03.280 receiver group that whether Geronimo Allison goes through a practice 0:12:03.280 --> 0:12:05.200 where the ball never comes his way, or if he 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:08.280 catches five or six balls in one practice, you never 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:10.640 hear about it necessarily one way or the other out 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.720 of him. It's not about, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.640 pound my chest when I have a great day or 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:17.000 a great game, or I'm gonna wine and complain when 0:12:17.040 --> 0:12:19.959 nobody throws me the ball. He just goes about his business. 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.920 He he is. You know you've written about it during 0:12:22.960 --> 0:12:27.320 the offseason. This guy has become very much a serious 0:12:27.360 --> 0:12:31.160 student of the game. He really took everything from the 0:12:31.200 --> 0:12:35.440 guys like Jordy Nelson, Davante Adams, the things that those 0:12:35.559 --> 0:12:38.360 veterans teach the younger players about how to be a pro. 0:12:38.720 --> 0:12:41.120 And Geronimo Allison now is one of those pros. And 0:12:41.160 --> 0:12:43.400 we talked earlier this week about our last week it 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.520 was rather about Reggie Gilbert and how I said, I 0:12:45.559 --> 0:12:48.040 think Reggie Gilbert's the best of the litter. When you 0:12:48.080 --> 0:12:51.800 look at the outside linebackers, undrafted rookie linebackers they've had 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:54.600 that have come through the program, Allison has really been that. 0:12:54.679 --> 0:12:56.520 As far as the receivers are concerned, they've had some 0:12:56.559 --> 0:12:58.800 good ones, you know, Uh, you know Brett Swain, you 0:12:58.840 --> 0:13:01.440 think about Ruevel Martin, even you know a guy like 0:13:01.520 --> 0:13:05.400 Jared Boykin lash very quickly. But I just the overall 0:13:05.440 --> 0:13:07.920 consistency of Allison. Uh, and we talked about it from 0:13:07.960 --> 0:13:09.720 the beginning. It's not like this guy just started. He 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:11.959 played well in the first preseason game two years ago 0:13:12.000 --> 0:13:14.000 and I was like, oh, this guy could make the roster. No, 0:13:14.120 --> 0:13:16.920 I mean right after he was signed, like people thought, 0:13:17.000 --> 0:13:19.079 this is a guy that could potentially make an impact, 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:21.640 and he certainly has. And he plays special teams. He 0:13:21.679 --> 0:13:23.400 has been working on the coverage units too. It is 0:13:23.400 --> 0:13:26.080 always a big bonus for trying to get on the field. Yeah. Well, 0:13:26.120 --> 0:13:29.480 with one preseason game left to go, the Packers heading 0:13:29.480 --> 0:13:33.840 to Kansas City this week for the preseason finale, looks 0:13:33.880 --> 0:13:37.760 like the backup quarterback competition that that number two. Competition 0:13:37.840 --> 0:13:40.079 between Deshaun Kaiser and Brett Hunley is going to come 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:42.920 right down to the wire here. Frankly West a tough 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:46.400 night in Oakland to really evaluate what was going on 0:13:46.640 --> 0:13:50.480 at with the two quarterbacks because they were just under 0:13:50.520 --> 0:13:53.640 siege all night. The backup offensive lineman had a rough night. 0:13:53.679 --> 0:13:57.040 Mike McCarthy flat out admitted it. It was maybe the 0:13:57.080 --> 0:14:01.000 poorest performance that they've had as a path protection unit. 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.439 A lot of things to work on their um. It 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.720 looks like Kyle Murphy's dealing with an injury. Now you 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:08.480 don't know how much that was affecting his play out there. 0:14:08.520 --> 0:14:11.080 It sounds like Jason Spriggs started to play a little 0:14:11.080 --> 0:14:13.920 bit better, but overall is a unit, there were definitely 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:17.400 issues and uh really not a great look at the quarterbacks. 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:20.560 Packers hoping to get another evaluation on these quarterbacks in 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.200 Kansas City. Yeah, and you know the way they split 0:14:23.200 --> 0:14:24.840 it up. You had Bred Huntley and you had to 0:14:24.880 --> 0:14:28.320 Shaun Kaiser, and each one basically got a half to 0:14:28.720 --> 0:14:31.360 work with a little bit no action for Tim Boyle 0:14:31.440 --> 0:14:33.400 in game number three, So we'll see what happens in 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:35.000 game number four if he gets some work in that 0:14:35.120 --> 0:14:37.280 fourth one, But I mean, yeah, it was tough to 0:14:37.320 --> 0:14:40.040 kind of look at and try to understand exactly what 0:14:40.040 --> 0:14:42.280 they were seeing just because of you know, the pocket 0:14:42.360 --> 0:14:44.720 and and some of those things. I go back to 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.440 what has sort of been on film so far during 0:14:47.480 --> 0:14:50.280 this camp. I think Deshaun Kaiser has a massive arm. 0:14:50.720 --> 0:14:52.800 I think he has great athleticism. You can see it 0:14:52.840 --> 0:14:55.680 when he gets out of the pocket. He's fast, he's quick, uh, 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:57.880 and you know he's made good decisions. Now there's a 0:14:57.920 --> 0:15:00.960 lot of raw features to that as well, But overall, 0:15:01.320 --> 0:15:03.560 I mean, as I said last week too, you see 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:05.320 why he was drafted where he was. You see why 0:15:05.320 --> 0:15:07.920 he's the prospect that he is. Bred Hunley I thought 0:15:07.920 --> 0:15:10.560 had two really solid performances to start off with in 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:13.440 those first two preseason games. This one a little bit 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:16.160 more on. Even the first series actually went pretty well 0:15:16.200 --> 0:15:18.360 for the offense. And yeah, the first the first drive 0:15:18.520 --> 0:15:20.440 was a good one and should have been a touchdown. 0:15:20.520 --> 0:15:23.040 Unfortunately Lance Kendricks could pulled onto that ball in the 0:15:23.120 --> 0:15:25.400 end zone or you put seven on the board right away. Yeah, 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:27.280 so he I think he completed four or five on 0:15:27.320 --> 0:15:28.760 that and just after that it was kind of a 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.120 work in progress. That the one thing that's gonna be 0:15:31.200 --> 0:15:32.640 nice for the Packers once you do get into the 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.720 regular seasons, you're gonna have Brian looks like they had 0:15:35.760 --> 0:15:37.880 box Yard for sure, Brian blogging, you hope would also 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:39.640 be able to get some you know, get back in 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:41.720 there after coming back off that a c l You 0:15:41.760 --> 0:15:44.200 got to see where Justin mccraze at with that calf injury. 0:15:44.200 --> 0:15:47.200 But overall, everything they've done, even though they haven't been 0:15:47.200 --> 0:15:49.040 able to get that group together, like I know, Mike 0:15:49.120 --> 0:15:51.160 McCarthy wants to be able to get them some reps. 0:15:51.640 --> 0:15:54.400 They're experienced. I mean, Corey Linsley started in this league 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.640 with an m v P quarterback in two thousand and 0:15:56.680 --> 0:15:59.680 fourteen without having any preseason reps with him at all 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:03.280 once however, so they've been able to adapt their veterans. 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:05.480 The big key is just trying to figure out who 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:08.760 those two or three, maybe even four guys are that okay, 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:10.800 who can be the next Justin McCrae, Who can be 0:16:10.840 --> 0:16:13.120 a guy that's gonna step up in a pinch. Because 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.560 as much as you want to repeat two thousand fourteen, 0:16:15.560 --> 0:16:18.000 where you're basically you're starting offensive line plays together for 0:16:18.040 --> 0:16:21.040 all but one game turn out of nineteen games that year. 0:16:21.160 --> 0:16:23.280 It's hard to accomplish in this league. So you need 0:16:23.280 --> 0:16:24.880 that number six and seven guy to be able to 0:16:24.880 --> 0:16:27.120 step up, and uh, we'll see what happens. So one 0:16:27.200 --> 0:16:29.600 positive I will say for the offensive line, I think 0:16:29.680 --> 0:16:32.320 Lucas Patrick looks at home as a center and he's 0:16:32.360 --> 0:16:34.600 probably that number six guy right now on that line. 0:16:34.640 --> 0:16:37.240 So I think i've kind of you remarked him as 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:39.600 the guy that could potentially be that next Justin mccraig, 0:16:39.680 --> 0:16:42.280 just because of the flexibility he gives you at those 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:45.120 interior positions. Yeah, as far as those two quarterbacks go, 0:16:45.680 --> 0:16:48.760 this is just my untrained eye, my my bird's eye 0:16:48.800 --> 0:16:51.960 view analysis. I felt bred Hunley was ahead of Kaiser 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:55.680 after Game one of the preseason. I felt Kaiser closed 0:16:55.680 --> 0:16:58.800 the gap in Game two against the Steelers. I thought 0:16:58.840 --> 0:17:03.200 maybe Hunley re established his lead after Game three, and 0:17:03.240 --> 0:17:05.120 now we head into game four. Is that a fair 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:06.760 way to look at you think? I think so. And 0:17:06.800 --> 0:17:09.000 I mean you just see the experience with Hundley. I 0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:11.320 mean he's been in this offense now for three years. 0:17:11.800 --> 0:17:14.639 He's put together some pretty darn good preseasons. Two. I 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:17.520 mean he was exceptiontionary. His first year in two thousand 0:17:17.600 --> 0:17:22.000 fifty seven passer rating, did a really fine job, got 0:17:22.080 --> 0:17:24.159 hurt two years ago, so it wasn't really able to 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:26.520 do much. Last year was consistent. I just I think 0:17:26.520 --> 0:17:28.000 that's the difference you're going to see with the guy 0:17:28.040 --> 0:17:29.600 that's been in the league a couple more years, and 0:17:29.760 --> 0:17:31.959 it's the reason why you still see him with those 0:17:32.040 --> 0:17:34.639 number two. Yeah. All right, With that, we will sign 0:17:34.680 --> 0:17:37.159 off on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.159 follow all of our coverage of the team and this 0:17:39.240 --> 0:17:42.200 final week of training camp on Packers dot com. On Twitter, 0:17:42.560 --> 0:17:44.399 you can find him at west hot I'm at Mike 0:17:44.440 --> 0:17:48.200 Spofford at Packers for the team account. Thanks for tuning in, everybody, 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:49.280 See you next time.