1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to Packers Unscripted from Packers dot Com. 2 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 1: I am Mike Spofford sitting next to my trusted colleague 3 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: West Hodkowits were coming to you here from our studios 4 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: at lambeau Field, back from Oakland, California, West. So let's 5 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: dive right into preseason game number three. For me, this 6 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 1: one starts with those top two draft picks of the 7 00:00:38,080 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 1: Packers from back in April, because I tell you what, 8 00:00:40,440 --> 00:00:44,159 Speaker 1: you're Alexander and Josh Jackson. They continue to look like keepers, 9 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: they really do, Mike, and the other thing that Josh 10 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: Jackson looks like he was a first round pick. Yeah, 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: people just happen to be sleeping on for one reason 12 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: or another. I mean, basically, every single thing I think 13 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: was seen as a weakness for Jackson has really been 14 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: somewhat of a strength in this preseason. And I get it. 15 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: These aren't the starting quarterbacks out there, these aren't mostly 16 00:01:03,720 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: the number one offenses. But when they have been on 17 00:01:05,680 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: the field, he's played pretty darn well too. I love 18 00:01:08,840 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 1: the versatility of him, and I love his playmaking ability 19 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 1: and and everything he showed in that one year as 20 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,199 Speaker 1: a starter at Iowa. It's transitioned into the NFL. Now 21 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:20,800 Speaker 1: the record books ten fifteen years down the line. People 22 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: might forget that he had another pick six in this game, 23 00:01:23,160 --> 00:01:27,839 Speaker 1: but that interception in thirty six is return yard returned 24 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,560 Speaker 1: for a touchdown. Had nothing to do with the Herb 25 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,520 Speaker 1: Waters holding call on the other side of the field. 26 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: He just made a play on the ball and was 27 00:01:34,880 --> 00:01:39,200 Speaker 1: unfortunately an unlucky participant there. But back to back pick 28 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: sixes and and also JayR Alexander finally get his first 29 00:01:42,920 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: extended action getting his first interception in the slot. Very 30 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 1: exciting about what what these guys have put on film 31 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 1: so far. Yeah, what I really liked about what Alexander 32 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,720 Speaker 1: did is that he was tested right off the bat 33 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:57,960 Speaker 1: in this game. First play, he's lined up across from 34 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:01,960 Speaker 1: Amari Cooper. Derek Carr goes eap Alexander's right there. You 35 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: can't really cover the play any better. You just got 36 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 1: out jumped for the ball by a bigger receiver and 37 00:02:06,840 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 1: a Pro Bowl caliber receiver at that. Hey, that's gonna happen. 38 00:02:10,120 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: That's how That's how this league has played. But you 39 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:15,359 Speaker 1: know what, it didn't bother him. He just he got up. 40 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:18,040 Speaker 1: He kept playing and then later on when the Raiders 41 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:21,520 Speaker 1: are driving for a potential touchdown, makes a really a 42 00:02:21,600 --> 00:02:26,440 Speaker 1: tremendous catch to to snag that interception on on that 43 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: middle steam route. And uh, you know, Mike McCarthy said it. 44 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,840 Speaker 1: You know, the ball skills of Alexander and Jackson were 45 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:36,920 Speaker 1: um the biggest selling points, I guess you might say 46 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: heading into the draft. And these guys have come as 47 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 1: advertised that that catch that Alexander made, the catch that 48 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 1: Jackson made on his pick six the previous week, and 49 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:47,600 Speaker 1: then the fact that he just took the ball away 50 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,360 Speaker 1: in the Raiders game by the sideline for what should 51 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: have been another pick six. These guys know how to 52 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:55,040 Speaker 1: play the ball that just and those are the kinds 53 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 1: of things you can't necessarily coach it. You can't teach it. 54 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: It's instinctive and it's the way they play the game. 55 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: And I think these guys are going to see the 56 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:06,160 Speaker 1: field plenty for the Packers. And that's the exciting thing too, 57 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 1: is because you have Joe wit Jr. There and obviously 58 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: him now working with with Jason Simmons as the position 59 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:14,280 Speaker 1: coaches for that room. There's things that they're going to 60 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 1: work with both of those young players about what the 61 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:19,920 Speaker 1: thing you got to like about, especially in Jackson's cases, 62 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 1: that this one month that he's been in Green Bay 63 00:03:22,919 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 1: and training camp, you've seen the progression. I asked him 64 00:03:25,760 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: about that after the game in the locker room. It 65 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: just so happened the two were actually sharing a visiting 66 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 1: locker in a very small Oakland Colisseum locker room, and 67 00:03:35,320 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 1: he said it too, is that he's this past month 68 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,320 Speaker 1: has allowed him to get into a rhythm, get back 69 00:03:40,360 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: to feeling comfortable in playing instinctual because you can rep 70 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: fundamentals as much as you want, you can do all 71 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: the drills that you want during these training camp practices. 72 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:51,960 Speaker 1: It's all intended to guys playing fast and playing with 73 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,400 Speaker 1: their instincts and playing disciplined football, and they've both done 74 00:03:55,400 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: that in the small sample size we've seen. I wrote 75 00:03:58,040 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: about this to an insider inbox from day Mike, the 76 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: thing that I think is the most exciting right now 77 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: for the Packers is, for the first time ever, at 78 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 1: least I think since maybe two thousand fourteen, I would 79 00:04:09,520 --> 00:04:12,640 Speaker 1: argue the Packers really don't feel a rush to get 80 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 1: any of these rookies on the field right away. If 81 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,200 Speaker 1: you feel like Josh Jackson's ready, sure put him out there. 82 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: Same thing with Joie Alexander. But as it stands right now, 83 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 1: these guys aren't just gonna have to get thrown out 84 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: there by attrition or just a lack of depth at 85 00:04:26,000 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 1: the position. You have Tremont Williams, who's playing some pretty 86 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: good ball right now at thirty five years old. I 87 00:04:31,720 --> 00:04:34,040 Speaker 1: thought Devon House has put together a pretty good camp 88 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:37,160 Speaker 1: coming back, and if Kevin kings shoulder checks out, he 89 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: can get into the regular season and there's no issues there. 90 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: That's a pretty good starting point for a starting cornerback corps. 91 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 1: So to be able to incorporate those guys in the 92 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 1: fact that the Packers, as we'll talk about, shortly traded 93 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:51,359 Speaker 1: Lindsay Pipkins over the weekend really speaks the fact that 94 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: this is a deep position for them now and it's 95 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 1: a lot better situation they were putting going in the 96 00:04:55,680 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: last year. Yeah. I think it's interesting what you said 97 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 1: about Josh Jackson that he looks like first round pick 98 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: that maybe people were sleeping on kind of a double 99 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: edged sword there in the sense that I think the 100 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: fact that he was only a starter for one year 101 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: in Iowa, I know there were some questions about his 102 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 1: speed and all that, but when you look at it, 103 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: he was a starter for one season in college in 104 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: the Big Ten. I think that scared some teams off 105 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: from taking him in the first round, but you mentioned it, 106 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 1: Look how much progress he's made already in the NFL. 107 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,600 Speaker 1: He only started for one year in college, so the 108 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:28,560 Speaker 1: ceiling is so much higher. There's so much further that 109 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:32,919 Speaker 1: he can potentially go because he's not a polished, finished 110 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,960 Speaker 1: product coming out of college. So I just think that's 111 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,800 Speaker 1: something that's interesting to keep an eye on as we 112 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: go forward with Jackson. When you and I were in 113 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 1: Indianapolis in February, who are the two cornerbacks that everybody 114 00:05:42,720 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: was looking at is potentially the top two in this 115 00:05:44,920 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: draft class? It was Denzel Ward and it was Josh Jackson. 116 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: Josh Jackson had a huge horde of media around him 117 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 1: at that podium, and I've just remember Draft night, especially 118 00:05:54,760 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: after the first round passed, you saw he was still 119 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: on the board, and then you get in the middle 120 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: of the second round. Sometimes it's like you do wonder, Okay, 121 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:03,880 Speaker 1: is there something that everybody missed on this guy? And 122 00:06:03,920 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 1: other times it's like why is this guy still available, 123 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: and is this a potential potential diamond in the rough. 124 00:06:09,920 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 1: A long way to go here with both of these 125 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 1: young players, with JayR Alexander as well, but sure, I 126 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,920 Speaker 1: just think Alexander fits the prototype for what you want 127 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 1: to look for. And maybe a slack cornerback that Casey 128 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:21,680 Speaker 1: Hayward type that can be a playmaker there but also 129 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,400 Speaker 1: give you some versatility outside. And a guy like Josh 130 00:06:24,440 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: Jackson with his size. I said it from the beginning, Mike, 131 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,440 Speaker 1: even if he isn't a prototypical press man corner in 132 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: his terms of his background, he has that build to 133 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:34,440 Speaker 1: play that position. Yeah, he does. He definitely has the 134 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: physical characteristics you mentioned before. The trade of Lenzy Pipkins, 135 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,159 Speaker 1: so let's update everyone on that. For those who aren't aware, 136 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:45,520 Speaker 1: the Packers trade cornerback Lenzy Pipkins to the Indianapolis Colts 137 00:06:45,560 --> 00:06:51,160 Speaker 1: for inside linebacker Antonio Morrison, now third round draft picking 138 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 1: rookie or In Burke's from Vanderbilt injured his shoulder in 139 00:06:54,320 --> 00:06:57,559 Speaker 1: pregame warmups in Oakland on Friday night. But this trade 140 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: for Morrison not necessarily just a reaction to the Burk's injury. 141 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,480 Speaker 1: The m R I came back sounded it sounds like 142 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:07,240 Speaker 1: things are fairly positive with Burkes. They're not They don't 143 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,440 Speaker 1: have any long term concerns at this point with regards 144 00:07:10,440 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: to the shoulder, but acquiring Morrison an experienced inside linebacker 145 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 1: to throw into a very young group that has a 146 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: third year pro and Blake Martinez at the top of it. 147 00:07:20,480 --> 00:07:22,400 Speaker 1: Jake Ryan, as we know, was out for the season 148 00:07:22,480 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: with the torn a c L and then you have 149 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 1: Burks and a whole bunch of other guys who basically 150 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: haven't played regular season NFL snaps yet. So what's your 151 00:07:30,800 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: initial take. And I know we haven't even really talked 152 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,880 Speaker 1: to him yet as far as an interview at the 153 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,040 Speaker 1: time that we're taping this, but what's your initial take 154 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:39,600 Speaker 1: on the acquisition of Morris. It made a lot of sense, 155 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: I think for both teams because, as I also wrote 156 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: on Inbox on Monday, I do think Lindsay Pipkins as 157 00:07:44,040 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: an NFL player. I think the Packers found something when 158 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: they when they signed him as a uf A last 159 00:07:48,560 --> 00:07:52,080 Speaker 1: year out of Oklahoma State, because I think he has 160 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: the build for it. But where he was playing and 161 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: how they were using him it was very similar to 162 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:58,760 Speaker 1: what they're doing with Alexander and with with Tremont Williams. 163 00:07:58,800 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: I just don't know if the spot was there. Conversely, 164 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: you look at what the Colts are going through right now. 165 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: They need help at cornerback. They were hurting it that spot, 166 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,119 Speaker 1: and they're transitioning into a four three defense where maybe 167 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:13,200 Speaker 1: Morrison didn't fit, you know where he did the previous 168 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 1: two years underneath the Chuck Pogano. So now that you 169 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: have him available and you had Pipkins available, it made 170 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 1: sense for both teams to make that trade in a 171 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,040 Speaker 1: better opportunity for both players. Morrison's twenty three years old. 172 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,000 Speaker 1: He was taken six spots before Blake Martinez back in 173 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:30,680 Speaker 1: the two thousand sixteen NFL Draft and has played over 174 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: a thousand defensive snaps in the NFL. That's a lot 175 00:08:33,559 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: of experience for a twenty three year old NFL football player. 176 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,079 Speaker 1: So now being able to come into this defense, I 177 00:08:39,120 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: said it from day one, Mike, you might have a starter. 178 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: You might have maybe maybe Burke's is fine, and he 179 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: and he's your start of the whole year, and you 180 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: have him in Martinez, but you need somebody else available there. 181 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:51,480 Speaker 1: Joe Thomas has been that guy in the past. Jake 182 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:54,400 Speaker 1: Ryan was that guy his rookie season. You need a 183 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 1: guy that could potentially step into either of those positions 184 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: if there's an injury. I think Morrison is an opportunity 185 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: for get, for him to get back into a defense 186 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: probably he's more comfortable with, and also for the Packers 187 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: to get another look at a veteran in addition to 188 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: these undrafted free agents that they have currently competing for 189 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,880 Speaker 1: a spot behind Burkes and Martinez. Yeah, and the Packers 190 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:14,200 Speaker 1: like what they've seen certainly in this training camp in 191 00:09:14,240 --> 00:09:16,800 Speaker 1: preseason so far from a mod Thomas who is a 192 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: hold over from the practice squad, and then from Greer Martini, 193 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:23,280 Speaker 1: an undrafted rookie in the mix here. But this really 194 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 1: was about adding some experience to a position that that 195 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: overall just had very very little, you know, basically no 196 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: regular season NFL experience outside of Blake Martinez. So I'm 197 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:37,440 Speaker 1: sure we'll have more to talk about with Morrison as 198 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:40,719 Speaker 1: uh as things move along. Another thing I wanted to 199 00:09:40,760 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: get to though. We spent a lot of time through 200 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: the off season on our shows, on the website, everywhere 201 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 1: talking about the receiver competition for the Packers. On offense, 202 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:55,400 Speaker 1: and it's too Geronimo Allison's credit that we haven't really 203 00:09:55,400 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: talked about him much because frankly, he simply hasn't done 204 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,920 Speaker 1: anything to lose his hold on that number three spot. 205 00:10:03,960 --> 00:10:06,719 Speaker 1: And the way the game against the Raiders opened up 206 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: with Brett Hunley, he hit Allison on a sideline route, 207 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: a nice tiptoe catch there, and then hit him deep 208 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:16,480 Speaker 1: down the sideline um for a big gainer that helped 209 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,040 Speaker 1: to set up a field goal. Geronimo Allison is the 210 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: number three receiver on on this team. They're simply in 211 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 1: my in my opinion, not taking nothing away from what 212 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: Jake Crumo has done. What nice game from Jamon Moore 213 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: in Oakland, other things we've seen from Velde Scantling and 214 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: e q st Brown, But Geronimo Allison's your number three. 215 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,200 Speaker 1: I love the camp that Geronimo put together, especially after 216 00:10:37,240 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: losing Jordy Nelson, and I know he's spent such a 217 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:41,760 Speaker 1: big part of that room, a big part of this offense, 218 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:45,080 Speaker 1: and obviously a close confident of Aaron Rodgers. But I 219 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: think in the aftermath of that, it's really allowed Allison 220 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,319 Speaker 1: to shine. He did it throughout the off season program 221 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: and he's done it in training camp. Now is he 222 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 1: making these big, spectacular fifty yard catches, you know, like 223 00:10:56,720 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: Marcus Velde Scantling made in the first preseason game, or 224 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:03,559 Speaker 1: even some of the stuff that Jamond Moore did last weekend. 225 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: Maybe not, But I still think that thirty one yard 226 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 1: catch that he had against the Raiders and some of 227 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:12,079 Speaker 1: the things he's done in practice, he's just been so steady, 228 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: so consistent, And when you talk to Aaron Rodgers, that's 229 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,440 Speaker 1: the number one thing he wants out of his receivers. 230 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: He wants consistency. He wants him to be in the 231 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: right spot at the right time. I think what you 232 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 1: see with Alison is a really talented young man that 233 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: was coming into his own somewhat learning a new position, 234 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 1: considering how lady came to being a receiver and playing 235 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,880 Speaker 1: football in high school. And you've seen him mature over 236 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: these past two years, and you cannot overstate, uh, just 237 00:11:35,840 --> 00:11:39,440 Speaker 1: how important that time has been with Rogers in this 238 00:11:39,520 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: offense and getting the opportunities he's had and being able 239 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:43,839 Speaker 1: to capitalize on him. So, yeah, going in the regular 240 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: season right now, he's the guy. He's the guy that 241 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: I think you're looking at to really be the one 242 00:11:47,360 --> 00:11:50,520 Speaker 1: that's going to be the biggest beneficiary of of that 243 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,720 Speaker 1: number three spot being open. Yeah, and I think the 244 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,000 Speaker 1: I think the other thing that it kind of goes 245 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:57,200 Speaker 1: without saying in the Green Bay locker room, but it's 246 00:11:57,200 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: an example of just how well he fits in this 247 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 1: receiver group that whether Geronimo Allison goes through a practice 248 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: where the ball never comes his way, or if he 249 00:12:05,240 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: catches five or six balls in one practice, you never 250 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: hear about it necessarily one way or the other out 251 00:12:10,640 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: of him. It's not about, oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna 252 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 1: pound my chest when I have a great day or 253 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,000 Speaker 1: a great game, or I'm gonna wine and complain when 254 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,959 Speaker 1: nobody throws me the ball. He just goes about his business. 255 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 1: He he is. You know you've written about it during 256 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: the offseason. This guy has become very much a serious 257 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,160 Speaker 1: student of the game. He really took everything from the 258 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: guys like Jordy Nelson, Davante Adams, the things that those 259 00:12:35,559 --> 00:12:38,360 Speaker 1: veterans teach the younger players about how to be a pro. 260 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: And Geronimo Allison now is one of those pros. And 261 00:12:41,160 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: we talked earlier this week about our last week it 262 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: was rather about Reggie Gilbert and how I said, I 263 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,040 Speaker 1: think Reggie Gilbert's the best of the litter. When you 264 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: look at the outside linebackers, undrafted rookie linebackers they've had 265 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 1: that have come through the program, Allison has really been that. 266 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: As far as the receivers are concerned, they've had some 267 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: good ones, you know, Uh, you know Brett Swain, you 268 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 1: think about Ruevel Martin, even you know a guy like 269 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: Jared Boykin lash very quickly. But I just the overall 270 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: consistency of Allison. Uh, and we talked about it from 271 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 1: the beginning. It's not like this guy just started. He 272 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: played well in the first preseason game two years ago 273 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, this guy could make the roster. No, 274 00:13:14,120 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: I mean right after he was signed, like people thought, 275 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,079 Speaker 1: this is a guy that could potentially make an impact, 276 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: and he certainly has. And he plays special teams. He 277 00:13:21,679 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: has been working on the coverage units too. It is 278 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,080 Speaker 1: always a big bonus for trying to get on the field. Yeah. Well, 279 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: with one preseason game left to go, the Packers heading 280 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: to Kansas City this week for the preseason finale, looks 281 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 1: like the backup quarterback competition that that number two. Competition 282 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:40,079 Speaker 1: between Deshaun Kaiser and Brett Hunley is going to come 283 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 1: right down to the wire here. Frankly West a tough 284 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,400 Speaker 1: night in Oakland to really evaluate what was going on 285 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:50,480 Speaker 1: at with the two quarterbacks because they were just under 286 00:13:50,520 --> 00:13:53,640 Speaker 1: siege all night. The backup offensive lineman had a rough night. 287 00:13:53,679 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy flat out admitted it. It was maybe the 288 00:13:57,080 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: poorest performance that they've had as a path protection unit. 289 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,439 Speaker 1: A lot of things to work on their um. It 290 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 1: looks like Kyle Murphy's dealing with an injury. Now you 291 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 1: don't know how much that was affecting his play out there. 292 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: It sounds like Jason Spriggs started to play a little 293 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:13,920 Speaker 1: bit better, but overall is a unit, there were definitely 294 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:17,400 Speaker 1: issues and uh really not a great look at the quarterbacks. 295 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 1: Packers hoping to get another evaluation on these quarterbacks in 296 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: Kansas City. Yeah, and you know the way they split 297 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: it up. You had Bred Huntley and you had to 298 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 1: Shaun Kaiser, and each one basically got a half to 299 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: work with a little bit no action for Tim Boyle 300 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,400 Speaker 1: in game number three, So we'll see what happens in 301 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: game number four if he gets some work in that 302 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: fourth one, But I mean, yeah, it was tough to 303 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: kind of look at and try to understand exactly what 304 00:14:40,040 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: they were seeing just because of you know, the pocket 305 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: and and some of those things. I go back to 306 00:14:44,800 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 1: what has sort of been on film so far during 307 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 1: this camp. I think Deshaun Kaiser has a massive arm. 308 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: I think he has great athleticism. You can see it 309 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,680 Speaker 1: when he gets out of the pocket. He's fast, he's quick, uh, 310 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: and you know he's made good decisions. Now there's a 311 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 1: lot of raw features to that as well, But overall, 312 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: I mean, as I said last week too, you see 313 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:05,320 Speaker 1: why he was drafted where he was. You see why 314 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: he's the prospect that he is. Bred Hunley I thought 315 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: had two really solid performances to start off with in 316 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 1: those first two preseason games. This one a little bit 317 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,160 Speaker 1: more on. Even the first series actually went pretty well 318 00:15:16,200 --> 00:15:18,360 Speaker 1: for the offense. And yeah, the first the first drive 319 00:15:18,520 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 1: was a good one and should have been a touchdown. 320 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: Unfortunately Lance Kendricks could pulled onto that ball in the 321 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 1: end zone or you put seven on the board right away. Yeah, 322 00:15:25,440 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 1: so he I think he completed four or five on 323 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: that and just after that it was kind of a 324 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 1: work in progress. That the one thing that's gonna be 325 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:32,640 Speaker 1: nice for the Packers once you do get into the 326 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,720 Speaker 1: regular seasons, you're gonna have Brian looks like they had 327 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:37,880 Speaker 1: box Yard for sure, Brian blogging, you hope would also 328 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: be able to get some you know, get back in 329 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:41,720 Speaker 1: there after coming back off that a c l You 330 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 1: got to see where Justin mccraze at with that calf injury. 331 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: But overall, everything they've done, even though they haven't been 332 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: able to get that group together, like I know, Mike 333 00:15:49,120 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 1: McCarthy wants to be able to get them some reps. 334 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 1: They're experienced. I mean, Corey Linsley started in this league 335 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: with an m v P quarterback in two thousand and 336 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:59,680 Speaker 1: fourteen without having any preseason reps with him at all 337 00:15:59,720 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: once however, so they've been able to adapt their veterans. 338 00:16:03,720 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: The big key is just trying to figure out who 339 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,760 Speaker 1: those two or three, maybe even four guys are that okay, 340 00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 1: who can be the next Justin McCrae, Who can be 341 00:16:10,840 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: a guy that's gonna step up in a pinch. Because 342 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:15,560 Speaker 1: as much as you want to repeat two thousand fourteen, 343 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: where you're basically you're starting offensive line plays together for 344 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 1: all but one game turn out of nineteen games that year. 345 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,280 Speaker 1: It's hard to accomplish in this league. So you need 346 00:16:23,280 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 1: that number six and seven guy to be able to 347 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 1: step up, and uh, we'll see what happens. So one 348 00:16:27,200 --> 00:16:29,600 Speaker 1: positive I will say for the offensive line, I think 349 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: Lucas Patrick looks at home as a center and he's 350 00:16:32,360 --> 00:16:34,600 Speaker 1: probably that number six guy right now on that line. 351 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: So I think i've kind of you remarked him as 352 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: the guy that could potentially be that next Justin mccraig, 353 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: just because of the flexibility he gives you at those 354 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 1: interior positions. Yeah, as far as those two quarterbacks go, 355 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: this is just my untrained eye, my my bird's eye 356 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 1: view analysis. I felt bred Hunley was ahead of Kaiser 357 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 1: after Game one of the preseason. I felt Kaiser closed 358 00:16:55,680 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: the gap in Game two against the Steelers. I thought 359 00:16:58,840 --> 00:17:03,200 Speaker 1: maybe Hunley re established his lead after Game three, and 360 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:05,120 Speaker 1: now we head into game four. Is that a fair 361 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: way to look at you think? I think so. And 362 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 1: I mean you just see the experience with Hundley. I 363 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:11,320 Speaker 1: mean he's been in this offense now for three years. 364 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,639 Speaker 1: He's put together some pretty darn good preseasons. Two. I 365 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: mean he was exceptiontionary. His first year in two thousand 366 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:22,000 Speaker 1: fifty seven passer rating, did a really fine job, got 367 00:17:22,080 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: hurt two years ago, so it wasn't really able to 368 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: do much. Last year was consistent. I just I think 369 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: that's the difference you're going to see with the guy 370 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:29,600 Speaker 1: that's been in the league a couple more years, and 371 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:31,959 Speaker 1: it's the reason why you still see him with those 372 00:17:32,040 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: number two. Yeah. All right, With that, we will sign 373 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: off on this edition of Packers Unscripted. Be sure to 374 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,159 Speaker 1: follow all of our coverage of the team and this 375 00:17:39,240 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: final week of training camp on Packers dot com. 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