WEBVTT - Wet w/ David Krumholtz 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:04.040 Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable. 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:06.840 We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the 0:00:06.920 --> 0:00:08.920 vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. 0:00:09.200 --> 0:00:11.400 These are our stories done. 0:00:11.039 --> 0:00:29.720 Done, Yay, that's messed up. 0:00:29.720 --> 0:00:31.120 An SVU podcast. 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.840 I'm Liza Traeger and I'm Kara Klank And every week 0:00:34.920 --> 0:00:37.519 on this show, we recap a classic episode of Law 0:00:37.520 --> 0:00:40.680 and Order SVU as well as the crime that it 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:43.360 was based on, and then we talk usually to somebody 0:00:43.400 --> 0:00:44.599 amazing from the episode. 0:00:44.600 --> 0:00:46.920 And today is no exception. We have been. 0:00:48.840 --> 0:00:51.760 We were holding out, we were holding out. We did it, 0:00:53.800 --> 0:00:56.680 and it's cool. We're on the same time zone. That 0:00:56.760 --> 0:00:59.600 never happens. How do you feel recording later in the 0:00:59.640 --> 0:01:01.600 after verse earlier in the morning. 0:01:02.440 --> 0:01:04.080 I mean, I kind of like it. 0:01:04.160 --> 0:01:07.640 I can see why you loved when you moved like it, 0:01:08.000 --> 0:01:09.600 Like the time is better. 0:01:09.760 --> 0:01:13.639 It's just better. But I am going to be recording today. 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:15.400 My kids will come home and my parents will be 0:01:15.400 --> 0:01:17.480 attempting to keep them quiet, so we'll see what happens 0:01:17.480 --> 0:01:20.479 with that, you know, so I will say the morning 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:23.000 records for me when they're fully in school. I mean, 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.360 I've been on the West East Coast for like a month, 0:01:25.800 --> 0:01:28.360 and I have just got my kids into camp this 0:01:28.400 --> 0:01:30.840 week and it's changed my life. I mean, I cannot 0:01:30.840 --> 0:01:32.240 No one is meant to be with their kids every 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.360 single day for a month. It's just not it's not 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:39.800 a natural it's not Our summer has seemed so great, Yes, 0:01:40.319 --> 0:01:44.000 and you want kids to be obsessed with New York 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.360 and they're just little like they just are kind of like, yeah, 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:49.680 what it's whatever. I'm like, isn't this the most amazing 0:01:49.720 --> 0:01:52.600 city in the world. And they're like, are we going 0:01:52.640 --> 0:01:55.240 to the eminem store? You know, like they just don't 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:57.440 like it's I think I was expecting a little bit 0:01:57.440 --> 0:01:58.960 too much from them. But they have been having a 0:01:58.960 --> 0:02:01.160 great time. I took them tol Luwie's house. I took 0:02:01.200 --> 0:02:04.960 them to Staten Island Ferry, like they've got they've We 0:02:05.000 --> 0:02:08.400 did the Natural History Museum and like the butterfly exhibit, 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:09.679 which they both love butterflies. 0:02:09.680 --> 0:02:11.120 So we've been we've been having a blast. 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:16.480 And I'll tell a little anecdote from my summer vacation 0:02:16.760 --> 0:02:19.560 because this is relevant to the listeners. So I go 0:02:19.680 --> 0:02:21.799 to a wedding, I go back to La for a wedding, 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:23.840 the one wedding I have all year, and it's on 0:02:23.919 --> 0:02:25.920 the West Coast while I'm in in New York. So 0:02:26.639 --> 0:02:29.040 I go out to LA for this wedding, and I 0:02:29.240 --> 0:02:32.360 forgot that it's the wedding of my friend who helped 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:35.880 us get Marcia gay Harden as a guest on our podcast. 0:02:36.360 --> 0:02:38.880 And I didn't even I didn't even remember that she 0:02:38.919 --> 0:02:41.560 would be at the wedding. So I'm sitting in a 0:02:41.639 --> 0:02:43.840 row with her, like three people away from her. And 0:02:43.919 --> 0:02:45.680 so when we all get up to like leave after 0:02:45.680 --> 0:02:49.440 the wedding, which was amazing, it was such a great wedding. 0:02:49.880 --> 0:02:51.800 As we're leaving to like go up to our you know, 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:54.400 the cocktail hour, Marcia comes out of her seat and 0:02:54.400 --> 0:02:55.919 I go, Hi, Marsha, it's so nice to meet you 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:59.080 in person, Like I interviewed you with my co host 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:03.240 Lisa on That's Messed Up. It's our podcast about loner Respuu. 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:08.360 And she goes like she squinted and was searching the 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:10.640 recesses of her mind, and it's like, I get it. 0:03:10.680 --> 0:03:12.119 You're a busy woman. I'm sure you've done a bunch 0:03:12.120 --> 0:03:14.520 of podcasts. But it's like we specific we are a 0:03:14.720 --> 0:03:18.600 very specific podcast, Like I didn't think she would completely 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:21.160 forget about it, but she goes, will you forgive me? 0:03:21.240 --> 0:03:23.800 My brain is mush? And I go, you know what's same? 0:03:24.080 --> 0:03:28.080 And then we proceeded to just hang out NonStop for 0:03:28.160 --> 0:03:33.120 a full hour, like she just stayed with me, Like 0:03:33.200 --> 0:03:35.640 I was alone at the wedding. I didn't have cock friends. 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:38.040 You guys have cocktails. We had cocktails. 0:03:38.520 --> 0:03:39.080 She gave me. 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:44.400 Okay, So there were three little signature drinks and I 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.240 think first she started with the margarita and I was 0:03:47.360 --> 0:03:50.360 drinking this other one that was like delicious, like a 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:53.120 rose spritzer, and I think she had that second because 0:03:53.120 --> 0:03:55.960 the first one she said was too sweet. But she 0:03:56.080 --> 0:03:58.040 got a little mini cup of mac and cheese and 0:03:58.080 --> 0:03:58.600 I go, oh. 0:03:58.440 --> 0:03:59.600 That looks good. She goes, you want to buite? 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:01.320 She gimme? She goes, if you don't mind my fork, 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:05.960 I'm sharing apps with MGH. We're sharing apps. Have you 0:04:06.000 --> 0:04:08.440 ever shared a fork with an oscar winner before? 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:10.000 It was my first time. 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:10.920 I can't. 0:04:11.080 --> 0:04:13.480 It was my first time, and like it was just 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.320 like really natural conversation. We were talking about her kids. 0:04:16.360 --> 0:04:18.320 We were talking about like my kids. I was telling 0:04:18.320 --> 0:04:20.480 her all like we were just talking about random stuff. 0:04:20.839 --> 0:04:23.040 Like we didn't even get back. I mean, I wasn't like, oh, 0:04:23.040 --> 0:04:24.840 I have some follow up questions about as for you, 0:04:25.279 --> 0:04:26.240 Like we were just chatting. 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:28.360 So then this is so funny. 0:04:28.400 --> 0:04:31.840 Like so then we're outside the cocktail hours outside, I'm hot, 0:04:31.880 --> 0:04:35.640 I'm sweating, okay, and I'm wearing my Honey Love shapewear. 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:38.039 Thank you, Honey Love for sponsoring the podcast. This is 0:04:38.080 --> 0:04:41.839 an unpaid mention. But We're outside in La and it 0:04:41.920 --> 0:04:45.240 is hot, right and I'm like sweating, and she goes, 0:04:45.279 --> 0:04:46.560 we how old are you? And I tell her how 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.960 old I am. She goes, maybe it's perimenopause. I go, yeah, 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:51.760 but I don't have any other symptoms. And she goes, Honey, 0:04:52.040 --> 0:04:55.080 you're melting right now. I go, Marcia, I'm outside in 0:04:55.200 --> 0:04:57.360 July in La, and I'm wearing shapewear. 0:04:57.880 --> 0:04:59.400 And we were just like laughing. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.359 And then we took a picture together at my request, 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:04.520 of course, and she goes, send me those pictures, gets 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:06.279 my We get, we exchange phone numbers. 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:10.920 She faces dropped my jaws on the floor. 0:05:12.640 --> 0:05:16.520 She texts me and goes, thanks Kara or whatever, and 0:05:16.600 --> 0:05:20.599 then the next morning texts me a salad recipe. We 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:23.600 had not been talking about salad. She just texts me 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.359 and I love Halluomi. It's like a Halloomi salad. I'm like, 0:05:26.600 --> 0:05:29.000 I love this, sends me a Hallumi salad recipe and goes, 0:05:29.040 --> 0:05:31.440 this is one of my favorites. And she says, it 0:05:31.480 --> 0:05:33.039 was so great hanging out with you last night. And 0:05:33.080 --> 0:05:34.919 I said, I had such a good time with you, 0:05:34.960 --> 0:05:37.160 and I'm totally gonna make this salad. But now I've 0:05:37.160 --> 0:05:40.280 got her in my phone, and if we do another 0:05:40.360 --> 0:05:42.960 Dana Lewis episode and I have any questions, I'll just 0:05:43.120 --> 0:05:45.640 text her up. I mean, it's one of those things 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:47.159 I'll probably never see her again in my life. But 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:50.760 we had a glorious she texted you means that there 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:54.520 was like, you know, she wasn't scared. You weren't giving 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:58.000 an energy of fear, Like she wasn't scared to reveal 0:05:58.000 --> 0:05:58.680 her number to you. 0:05:59.160 --> 0:05:59.360 Yeah. 0:05:59.440 --> 0:06:02.240 Yeah, we we We had had a nice time. I 0:06:02.240 --> 0:06:04.840 mean I was there alone. I had friends there obviously, 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:07.279 but I didn't have my like husband, and she wasn't 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:08.720 there with her husband. So I think we were just 0:06:08.800 --> 0:06:10.279 kind of like at the cocktail and we were like, yeah, 0:06:10.320 --> 0:06:12.560 it's just a couple of single gals going to get 0:06:12.600 --> 0:06:16.240 a cocktail, you know. But I was just expecting after 0:06:16.240 --> 0:06:17.719 she said she didn remember the podcast, for her to 0:06:17.720 --> 0:06:19.760 be like but nice meeting you and like, but she 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:21.400 just started engaging me in conversation. 0:06:21.440 --> 0:06:23.760 We just like walked and then after that we were 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:24.360 like where should we go? 0:06:24.360 --> 0:06:24.440 Now? 0:06:24.480 --> 0:06:26.520 Should we go outside? And we just like what outside? 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.760 And like people were going up to her and asking 0:06:28.800 --> 0:06:31.640 for photos and stuff, and she was being so generous 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:32.160 and sweet. 0:06:32.480 --> 0:06:33.640 But then she was coming. 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.560 Back to talk to me and I was like, you're 0:06:35.600 --> 0:06:37.200 my new best friend. I don't know what's saying. 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.760 Wow, this is huge. I also remember that she was 0:06:39.760 --> 0:06:40.640 a big Katya fan. 0:06:40.760 --> 0:06:43.280 When we talked to her, yes, and we talked about 0:06:43.600 --> 0:06:45.440 came we didn't talk about. 0:06:46.200 --> 0:06:47.880 We talked about like lgbt. 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:50.520 Q issues and stuff like that, and like how you 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:53.400 know it's like affecting her family and the current administration 0:06:53.600 --> 0:06:55.400 and shit like that. We talked about that a little bit, 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:59.120 but like we I forgot about how much she loves Katya. 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:00.880 We didn't get into that the drag of it all. 0:07:01.000 --> 0:07:03.560 But I'm embarrassed to say I have not watched a 0:07:03.720 --> 0:07:05.960 second of All Stars and now I know who wins that. 0:07:06.040 --> 0:07:08.360 I'm like, I, well, you know the whole time watching it, 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:10.400 well you don't know until you meet the third crew 0:07:10.480 --> 0:07:10.800 or whatever. 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:13.120 But it's like you see what they're doing. 0:07:13.800 --> 0:07:16.080 You see the order of challenge, like the lip they 0:07:16.160 --> 0:07:20.400 cut lip syncs, they re edited stuff to like it's 0:07:20.880 --> 0:07:23.720 I don't understand why they were so gung ho with 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:27.040 the s winner. And if you are, that's okay, but 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:30.280 then don't end on lip sync Lala perusa, you know 0:07:30.320 --> 0:07:30.720 what I mean. 0:07:31.120 --> 0:07:35.000 Like, so it was just watching someone lose. 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:37.360 Three lip syncs in a row to people better than them, 0:07:37.440 --> 0:07:40.120 but like win them anyway when they win. Yeah, And 0:07:40.240 --> 0:07:42.920 it's not like Ginger is not an amazing performer. 0:07:43.360 --> 0:07:44.520 It's not like she didn't. 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.400 She nailed every single challenge that was there wasn't a 0:07:47.480 --> 0:07:50.320 design challenge, you know, they did snatch game with her 0:07:50.520 --> 0:07:53.720 and an improv challenge, Like it just was a little 0:07:53.800 --> 0:07:55.880 too much and I miss so I put on All 0:07:55.920 --> 0:07:58.840 Stars too actually to get the energy. 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:00.760 And energy of it. 0:08:01.600 --> 0:08:06.680 And Naomi Smalls and Bob, I mean, Naomi was reading 0:08:06.800 --> 0:08:11.480 to Phil she called Ginger pathetic, like because of the 0:08:11.560 --> 0:08:13.200 lip sync, because she does this thing where she can't 0:08:13.240 --> 0:08:15.080 lip sync. So she looks at the other girl doing 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:17.680 something and makes the face of like, well I can't 0:08:17.760 --> 0:08:21.440 do that, and it's like and Naomi called it pathetic 0:08:22.600 --> 0:08:24.560 on sibling Revelry. 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:28.040 Rivalry Rivalry Revelry's the Kate Hudson one. Well, that's what 0:08:28.080 --> 0:08:30.160 I was gonna say, that's the new Kate Hudson one. 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.640 How many people do you think go to Apple Podcasts 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:39.199 and put in sibling Rivalry thinking it's Kate Hudson and 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.200 then they're like, who are these two queens just screaming 0:08:42.280 --> 0:08:46.000 at each other, like, you know, like just tearing each 0:08:46.000 --> 0:08:53.079 other apart. But anyway, that's my little story from not 0:08:53.200 --> 0:08:56.200 a little story, the biggest little story from the Christmas, 0:08:56.440 --> 0:08:58.200 from the Christmas, from the summer break. 0:08:58.360 --> 0:08:59.839 So what's what's been going on with you? 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:02.880 Well, if you follow me on Instagram, you would know 0:09:03.040 --> 0:09:07.880 my labubu got stolen. I saw, I can't, I can't 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:08.880 how off of what? 0:09:09.320 --> 0:09:10.040 So this is the thing. 0:09:10.200 --> 0:09:13.240 So you know Jared Goldstein a friend and a colleague 0:09:13.280 --> 0:09:16.360 of ours. He a friend and coworker. 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:17.600 He loves purses. 0:09:18.040 --> 0:09:20.720 He's his brain is broken and he's gotten into purses, 0:09:20.800 --> 0:09:24.280 refurbishing purses, high end purses, fake purses. 0:09:24.520 --> 0:09:26.240 No. He was at my show like a month ago, 0:09:26.360 --> 0:09:28.800 right before I left LA, and was like showing me 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:30.160 a person was like, isn't this amazing? 0:09:30.200 --> 0:09:32.440 I was like you, this is your passion. It's all yeah. 0:09:32.559 --> 0:09:33.920 So we decided to do. 0:09:35.400 --> 0:09:39.839 A purse's themed show at Sunday at five am. So 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:40.439 you know. 0:09:40.720 --> 0:09:43.160 Ever, so there's a lot of purse themes stuff. 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:46.320 So I bring out my turtle backpack and I clip 0:09:46.360 --> 0:09:49.040 a laboo boo on each end of the backpack to 0:09:49.160 --> 0:09:51.640 go on stage. He has a bag, he puts his 0:09:52.200 --> 0:09:55.120 his labubo, has a Gucci outfit o fake, but puts 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:57.480 it on his belt loop. Like I had my clear 0:09:57.600 --> 0:09:59.600 tail far filled with tote backs thanks for everyone who 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:02.320 came to and it was like, guess how many tote 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:03.040 bags are in here? 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:04.160 And we had her eyes as. 0:10:04.080 --> 0:10:07.200 A bad purses and like I got gifted a purse 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:08.439 and we were like, is this ugly or not? 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:09.319 Does anyone want it? 0:10:09.840 --> 0:10:13.199 It's ugly? No one wanted it, but whatever. So I 0:10:13.280 --> 0:10:16.480 had lots of bags and I was drinking. It's still early, 0:10:16.559 --> 0:10:19.360 it's hot in the summer city. I'm walking with some 0:10:19.440 --> 0:10:21.520 friends to go to get dinner. In the Lower East Side, 0:10:21.559 --> 0:10:23.599 So like, I don't know when it happened, Like it 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:27.320 could have been sitting at the venue bar. It could 0:10:27.320 --> 0:10:29.480 have been on my walk waiting across the street. It 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.240 could have been unclipped it. Yeah, because we had to 0:10:32.280 --> 0:10:34.079 wait for a table at this restaurant for like a 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.040 half hour, so we were just outside. I think my 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:39.280 friend I waited in line at a bathroom, like I 0:10:39.360 --> 0:10:41.719 don't know, and we didn't notice till the end of 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.880 dinner when I took my turtle backpack up to pay 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:47.080 and the key rate. 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:50.160 It's like I CHERYLA. 0:10:49.920 --> 0:10:53.280 Boomers when Rosie got hers, I said, I wouldn't bring 0:10:53.360 --> 0:10:54.400 this to school if I were you. 0:10:54.520 --> 0:10:54.880 I don't know. 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:58.000 I don't know that she really like comprehends like theft 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.960 really yet, like she's never had anything stolen from her, 0:11:01.080 --> 0:11:05.000 but like you know, I was like, people really want these, Rosie, 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:06.720 and they're her to find and I'm worried that someone 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:07.160 could take it. 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:08.920 She's like, no, I'll be really careful with it, and 0:11:09.240 --> 0:11:11.520 she hasn't had it stolen yet. 0:11:11.559 --> 0:11:12.800 But I also bought it for her, like on the 0:11:12.840 --> 0:11:14.400 second to last day of school, so there hasn't been 0:11:14.440 --> 0:11:16.800 the many opportunities. I would hope no one would steal 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:19.160 it from a child. Oh no, other children I think 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:22.280 would steal it. Yeah yeah in school. But out and 0:11:22.360 --> 0:11:24.199 about I think, yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know. 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:26.679 I am looking at the box that it came in, 0:11:26.880 --> 0:11:29.880 and then it was a give. But oh yeah, I 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.880 have a retraction to make. I was thinking about I 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:35.080 was being really a negative and nancy about the New 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:37.880 York Times movie list, and I liked the movie Gravity. 0:11:38.000 --> 0:11:39.559 I don't know why I was so shocked. 0:11:39.280 --> 0:11:41.079 It was on the list. Wow, I was, And you 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.840 had an apology retraction to make, and this is not where. 0:11:43.880 --> 0:11:45.800 I didn't know where this was going at all, But 0:11:45.920 --> 0:11:48.760 I didn't know it was going to space. I just 0:11:48.920 --> 0:11:53.480 felt like I was being like such a hater on fine. 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:55.800 Movies, like put them in the list, like I don't care, 0:11:56.160 --> 0:11:58.200 I don't know. I was so gung ho and angry 0:11:58.240 --> 0:12:01.240 about it. I did watch Myrary Report, though i'd never 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:05.199 seen it. It's Spielberg, Tom Cruise, pre Crime. I don't know, 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.880 and I don't. It doesn't hold up for me, so 0:12:09.040 --> 0:12:11.360 I guess I'm still a hater. But I did give 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.240 one of the movies I hadn't seen a shot and 0:12:14.320 --> 0:12:16.760 that's great, Well, I love it. 0:12:16.920 --> 0:12:17.079 Well. 0:12:17.320 --> 0:12:20.439 Also, so I'm shooting a short, No big deal. But 0:12:21.200 --> 0:12:23.559 I thought I was the completely different character. And I've 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:28.040 been learning lines for another character. Oh no, and it's 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:30.760 more and reading the script being like, Wow, this other 0:12:30.880 --> 0:12:33.439 character's so funny. Wow, I can't wait to meet this 0:12:33.559 --> 0:12:36.520 other character. God, these lines are so fun. Oh she 0:12:36.640 --> 0:12:39.400 gets to do that, and then, thank god, this week 0:12:39.480 --> 0:12:43.520 I realized that I'm that character, not. 0:12:43.640 --> 0:12:45.400 The emotion that. 0:12:47.920 --> 0:12:50.240 You could tell the serious reserved girl actress, be like, 0:12:50.240 --> 0:12:51.600 if you need any help with your lines, I also 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:52.520 memorize your part. 0:12:54.520 --> 0:12:57.600 But I couldn't believe I was studying for the wrong one. 0:12:58.040 --> 0:13:02.000 But you know, well, my manager gave me a little 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:05.680 talking to and she said, maybe this is a sign 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:10.280 to read your emails. Oh okay, she goes, because it's 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:14.439 clearly stated in the emails what character it is, and 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:16.520 I go for sure it was a misunderstanding. 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:20.839 Okay. 0:13:21.000 --> 0:13:23.840 Also, I'm sorry to go to Australia obviously visa issues. 0:13:23.880 --> 0:13:27.079 If you listened to this podcast, you heard before the 0:13:27.200 --> 0:13:32.520 cancelation happened. But basically, yeah, I mean, I hope the 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:35.640 FBI doesn't support me. I am a naturalized citizen. I'm 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:38.280 on the edge of my seat, but oh, I'm working 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.960 on getting back, so stay tuned to this any announcements. 0:13:42.040 --> 0:13:43.800 If you had tickets, we'll probably reach out to you. 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.840 But and just to reiterate, you've been to Australia multiple 0:13:47.920 --> 0:13:50.480 times before. My husband went to Australia with barely a 0:13:50.840 --> 0:13:53.079 piece of paper that said let him into Australia and 0:13:53.200 --> 0:13:54.800 it was no problem. Oh, I have to write an 0:13:54.800 --> 0:13:57.319 apology letter for the other times I went in and 0:13:58.240 --> 0:14:01.600 why like this time, like they're like, you shady bitch, 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:02.680 we want an apology. 0:14:02.800 --> 0:14:05.400 So I had to write like a full declaration. 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.520 Up about everything and how I've become a better person 0:14:09.760 --> 0:14:11.680 since my former brushes with the law. 0:14:13.920 --> 0:14:16.120 What in the fucking world? 0:14:16.880 --> 0:14:19.160 Yeah, yeah, yeah, So I've had to be like, I'm 0:14:19.160 --> 0:14:23.320 a dedicated sister and aunt, I have a podcast about 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:23.760 the law. 0:14:25.640 --> 0:14:27.960 Let's get some AI images of you at a soup 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:30.720 kitchen we can use for them. I've been volunteering. 0:14:31.280 --> 0:14:31.800 Oh you have. 0:14:32.360 --> 0:14:34.880 Yeah, I've gone back and I'm signed up for next week. 0:14:34.960 --> 0:14:36.720 So I really that's awesome. 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:37.960 I really like it. 0:14:38.280 --> 0:14:41.200 Well, and I have to be more front facing. I 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.160 let the guys serve and I was scooping the food, 0:14:43.200 --> 0:14:45.400 and I'm like, sir, if you don't smile at these people, 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:48.400 you can't be in the front, Like, yeah, you gotta, 0:14:48.520 --> 0:14:49.080 but they're. 0:14:48.880 --> 0:14:50.720 Gonna be like they're gonna be like Lisa, you can't 0:14:50.800 --> 0:14:53.160 chat to everybody. You gotta move the line along. It's 0:14:53.200 --> 0:14:56.200 not even about chatting to me. It's just going my pleasure. 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:58.800 Thank you. Are you guys ready for some food? 0:14:58.920 --> 0:15:02.480 It's like, give these people in experience a little bit 0:15:02.520 --> 0:15:04.680 of like a hospitality. 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:07.320 Yeah, thank you for the word hospitality. 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:11.480 You know, scooping is good too, But I'm really scared 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.720 of the like you know, it's hot water and then 0:15:14.760 --> 0:15:16.280 the trays on top of the hot water. 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.640 I'm really scared of that hot water. And I don't 0:15:19.760 --> 0:15:20.160 like that. 0:15:20.560 --> 0:15:23.520 It's scary. Yeah, I got youa that makes sense. And 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:26.320 the place when they're fresh from the dishwasher are really 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.400 hot too. I'm just not meant for behind the scenes. Like, 0:15:29.560 --> 0:15:33.960 I'm just not. It's just too hot and scary for me. 0:15:34.560 --> 0:15:36.880 I'm not meant from behind the scenes. It's so funny. 0:15:38.520 --> 0:15:40.240 Wait really quick before I forget though. 0:15:40.400 --> 0:15:43.000 This episode's coming out on August fifth, which means you 0:15:43.200 --> 0:15:47.000 still have like a week or so it will sell out, 0:15:47.240 --> 0:15:50.280 So like it don't be like, don't wait till the 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:50.840 last day. 0:15:51.000 --> 0:15:51.880 It will sell out. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.680 It is what it is. Yeah, yeah, it's it's a 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.600 great venue. It's not like a two drink minimum situation. 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:59.880 So it's like less expensive than some of the shows 0:16:00.000 --> 0:16:01.800 you've done in the past. If that's anybody, I know 0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.880 that's everybody's worry right now. Is like money's tight all around. 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:08.080 But come see us. It's a new episode. It's uh 0:16:08.200 --> 0:16:11.800 that you haven't seen in New York and uh games 0:16:11.880 --> 0:16:14.280 and fun. It's like fun stuff, so we're gonna have 0:16:14.280 --> 0:16:16.680 a great time. It's at the Bell House on August fourteenth. 0:16:16.720 --> 0:16:18.400 Go to That's messed Up live dot com. There's a 0:16:18.440 --> 0:16:22.280 ticket link there. Tell them if you're broke, d m us. 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.920 Maybe maybe if your story is good enough, we'll give 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:28.000 you a comp I mean, Karen Kara has friends. 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.440 I'm not letting anyone come in. I'm making my friends pay. 0:16:30.520 --> 0:16:33.840 Come on, I'm making my friends pay. Enough. 0:16:34.040 --> 0:16:38.160 Enough is enough? Am I seeing Colin? Maybe? 0:16:38.360 --> 0:16:38.520 Oh? 0:16:38.600 --> 0:16:39.000 Yeah, I think he. 0:16:39.080 --> 0:16:40.800 I think they're coming. I think Colin and Joe are coming. 0:16:41.160 --> 0:16:43.720 Yeah I need some Yeah, you guys, brother, come on. 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.240 I'm offering a lot here. Get into the city, come 0:16:46.360 --> 0:16:49.600 see this. Some people have said, we're considering I'm considering 0:16:49.640 --> 0:16:51.400 flying in. I think worth it. Make it, do a 0:16:51.440 --> 0:16:52.320 little trip to New York. 0:16:52.360 --> 0:16:52.880 It'll be fun. 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:54.600 Yeah, it's not like you'll go into the middle of 0:16:54.720 --> 0:16:57.280 nowhere like you can make a round. We're not making 0:16:57.400 --> 0:17:01.280 them right. The Dakota's no offense. We love the Dakotas. 0:17:02.080 --> 0:17:05.359 We here on this podcast. We love the Dakotas, always have. Oh. 0:17:05.720 --> 0:17:07.879 I and so, because I wasn't in Australia, I do 0:17:07.960 --> 0:17:10.200 want to say hi to everyone that came to Chicago. 0:17:10.440 --> 0:17:10.640 Cara. 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:13.160 A lot of people said hello, they want more of us. 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:18.080 But I loved seeing everyone and Chicago. One of the 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:22.000 greatest things happened to me. I saw geese crossing the 0:17:22.119 --> 0:17:26.960 street and like traffic waiting, and I just I liked it. 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:28.800 I could. I have never seen that before. 0:17:28.920 --> 0:17:30.879 So I was really, Hey, that's like I have a 0:17:31.080 --> 0:17:34.199 picture of you sitting on a goose. 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:35.080 Oh it's a duck. 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:37.520 I have a picture of you in Boston on like 0:17:37.560 --> 0:17:40.280 a duck with its little ducklings behind it, and it's 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:43.320 very very like in the same vein and I have 0:17:43.400 --> 0:17:46.439 a silly goose tattoo. So I did, like, well, it's 0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:47.919 so funny. So I did some WG. 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:50.119 I did the Morning News. They're so nice to me 0:17:50.160 --> 0:17:50.960 at WGN. 0:17:51.280 --> 0:17:55.800 But one of the other people that were going on 0:17:55.920 --> 0:17:58.720 the news was the vice president of like the Botanic 0:17:58.800 --> 0:18:01.920 Gardens and my the Chicago Botanic Gardens because of my 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.520 childhood and being dragged there. No child wants to be 0:18:05.680 --> 0:18:08.880 dragged there. And I'm looking at this woman and I go, well, 0:18:08.920 --> 0:18:11.640 you know, the geese, and she goes, We've actually dealt 0:18:11.720 --> 0:18:13.639 with the geese problem. And when I started in nineteen 0:18:13.680 --> 0:18:15.960 ninety four, I know exactly what you're talking about, and 0:18:16.040 --> 0:18:17.040 so I'm not making it up. 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:19.359 There was a geese problem. So they're not there, but 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:19.760 they did. 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:22.080 They did move to the city like the Chicago like 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:24.720 around Zanies, like the geese star everywhere, and we have 0:18:24.800 --> 0:18:29.000 addressed your concerns visa via the geese. I love that. Yeah, 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:32.520 it's just nice to be like not solidified, but like 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:35.560 you know, like validating, validated. 0:18:35.760 --> 0:18:38.920 Yeah that it's not like some like weird thing I 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:40.480 made up, like the geese were. 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:43.000 Violent, have like a one bad Geese day, and you 0:18:43.160 --> 0:18:44.880 were attracting the geese in a weird way. 0:18:45.040 --> 0:18:48.080 Yeah, this is everybody I got it speaking of, and 0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:49.240 I know we have to start. 0:18:49.359 --> 0:18:51.160 I also am like, we haven't talked in a month, 0:18:51.200 --> 0:18:55.399 and I feel like we barely even scraped of, like 0:18:55.520 --> 0:19:00.520 all this stuff that's been going on. But I before 0:19:00.560 --> 0:19:05.000 we start, I'll do an either or an either or casey, 0:19:05.040 --> 0:19:08.160 I'd like you to play as well. Okay, you walk 0:19:08.200 --> 0:19:12.720 into your home, would you rather see one thousand roaches 0:19:14.240 --> 0:19:23.920 or one person? One person? Okay, one person. I don't 0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:26.480 think you could ever kill the roaches, and I don't 0:19:26.520 --> 0:19:28.600 think you could. I don't think you could kill all 0:19:28.600 --> 0:19:32.480 of them. They would scatter and they would start re populating. 0:19:33.440 --> 0:19:35.399 It would be forever and you would never forget it. 0:19:35.640 --> 0:19:38.239 The person this is like bear, This is like bear man. 0:19:38.720 --> 0:19:40.920 But you just said person. So it could be a 0:19:41.000 --> 0:19:41.920 woman or a child. 0:19:42.240 --> 0:19:45.879 So I'm like, but you don't know them, but I 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:47.480 don't know them, and I don't know why they're in 0:19:47.560 --> 0:19:50.399 my house, But I would rather see them. 0:19:50.680 --> 0:19:57.119 I would definitely say roaches, because God, that is horrifying 0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:01.119 and would disturb me to no end. But the idea, 0:20:01.640 --> 0:20:05.760 the true terror of seeing someone that you don't recognize 0:20:05.920 --> 0:20:09.880 inside of your home. That just that seems so horrible 0:20:10.040 --> 0:20:12.560 and I would never I would choose the roaches. 0:20:12.440 --> 0:20:13.840 I know, but my mind is going to like a 0:20:13.960 --> 0:20:17.400 million places of like oops, I walked into the wrong house, 0:20:17.560 --> 0:20:20.159 or like I don't know, like does the person have 0:20:20.280 --> 0:20:21.960 malevolent intentions or that's not part. 0:20:21.800 --> 0:20:22.160 Of the game. 0:20:22.240 --> 0:20:24.399 No, it doesn't even matter. I basically this is from 0:20:24.480 --> 0:20:26.560 the internet. Everything is from the internet. I have no 0:20:26.680 --> 0:20:30.400 original ideas anymore. But there is a video and it's 0:20:30.480 --> 0:20:32.440 not even new, but it was resurfacing again in my 0:20:32.560 --> 0:20:36.119 feed of like a guy's food kept disappearing, and so 0:20:36.280 --> 0:20:38.920 he put a hidden camera and then above his fridge 0:20:39.080 --> 0:20:41.840 was a little drawer crawl space thing and he caught 0:20:41.880 --> 0:20:43.760 a woman coming out of it and eating his food 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:46.120 and going back in and and him being like, get 0:20:46.160 --> 0:20:48.920 out of here. So it's like, yeah, I guess it's 0:20:49.080 --> 0:20:53.200 not but she's not violent. But the thought of someone 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:55.000 in your home coming into your. 0:20:55.000 --> 0:20:58.560 Pockets, yeah, well, I do feel like I would prefer 0:20:58.640 --> 0:21:01.200 to have like a parasite situation where someone lives in 0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.720 like a crawl space in my basement, eat and eating 0:21:03.760 --> 0:21:04.520 my food. 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:07.720 Versus a thousand cockroaches that you'll never get back you'll 0:21:07.760 --> 0:21:09.680 never get the sound of them skittering. 0:21:09.880 --> 0:21:12.840 Because Matt Bronger has a story like this where him 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:15.400 and his friend he used to do this bit. Truly, 0:21:15.480 --> 0:21:17.640 this joke I heard thirteen years ago and it still 0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:20.280 haunts me because he like grabbed this giant frying pan 0:21:20.320 --> 0:21:22.160 he was gonna hit and he saw a woman sitting 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:25.280 on like the stairs of his friend's house or something, 0:21:26.359 --> 0:21:28.200 and she walked out, and he's just glad he didn't 0:21:28.280 --> 0:21:30.480 murder her with a skillet. Is like the point of 0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:33.440 the story where it's like it was scary, but he's glad, 0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:35.920 like he didn't bang her head. 0:21:36.119 --> 0:21:38.760 I don't know. Wow, you guys have separate answers, So 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:40.320 that's like why this game is so fun. 0:21:41.240 --> 0:21:47.200 Wow. Uh okay, let's get started. This episode is good. 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:50.080 I hope we gave you the juice because we you know, 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:51.920 we were in the time machine for so long, so 0:21:52.119 --> 0:21:55.560 I'm sure we're like missing out on so many events. 0:21:55.600 --> 0:21:59.040 Like if there's stuff we didn't cover that you were like, wait, bitches, 0:21:59.359 --> 0:22:00.640 we want to hear about. 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:04.640 Yeah, please let us know, because my bad. 0:22:06.440 --> 0:22:08.800 Oh, I know what the fucking Idaho murder that the 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:15.960 sister of the victim that impact statement was incredible, So kudos, stuff. 0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:17.320 I want to talk about it. Do you want to 0:22:17.320 --> 0:22:18.800 talk about it next week? We can talk about it 0:22:18.840 --> 0:22:20.800 next week. Yeah, it's going to be like it's a tease. 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:23.240 It's a tease. It's a tease. 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:24.560 We're starting the app. 0:22:28.560 --> 0:22:33.080 The day has come, Ah, done on them. We're doing 0:22:33.160 --> 0:22:37.719 the episode wet. And if you've seen some of our 0:22:37.760 --> 0:22:40.480 live shows in some cities, we have done wet. 0:22:41.080 --> 0:22:43.680 We have done it live many times, just hoping for 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:44.240 the moment. 0:22:44.680 --> 0:22:48.760 And today is a real Barton Burner Season twelve, episode five. 0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:50.480 Yes, we love wet. 0:22:50.800 --> 0:22:54.600 We have done it, actually not that many times. It 0:22:54.760 --> 0:22:59.040 seems we've done it only like four at four live shows. 0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:03.600 We've done it in Seattle, Tampa, Denver, and Atlanta. So 0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:05.480 if you were at one of those shows, you saw 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:07.800 us do this. But you know, it's different every time 0:23:07.840 --> 0:23:09.480 we talk about it, So it's going to be different. 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:12.920 And yeah, this is a hot one. This is a 0:23:13.000 --> 0:23:15.440 classic episode, like this is maybe in my top ten 0:23:15.560 --> 0:23:15.880 for sure. 0:23:16.280 --> 0:23:19.720 Yeah, a lot of amazing moments. It aired October thirteenth, 0:23:19.920 --> 0:23:24.639 twenty ten. Spooky Season Spooky. I guess I'll start. It's 0:23:24.680 --> 0:23:26.760 like it's like it feels weird to just start it. 0:23:26.960 --> 0:23:29.639 There's so much anticipation in my heart and spirit for 0:23:29.760 --> 0:23:34.120 everyone enjoy it. And it was also like so much 0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:37.320 easier recapping because I have written it and talked about 0:23:37.359 --> 0:23:40.080 it at length, and we would watch it before every 0:23:40.119 --> 0:23:42.520 live show at least once or twice, so I was 0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:45.120 really like running smoothing. 0:23:45.359 --> 0:23:46.720 What's the word? Yeah, all show. 0:23:47.040 --> 0:23:52.560 We also did do a video scene from this episode 0:23:52.600 --> 0:23:55.840 together you and I and a little acting, a little 0:23:55.880 --> 0:24:00.560 acting sketch tweeted for our TikTok and Instagram that a 0:24:00.680 --> 0:24:02.119 lot of you guys really enjoyed. 0:24:04.080 --> 0:24:06.640 So all right, enough enough. 0:24:06.840 --> 0:24:09.200 You know, getting new, getting new, pump. I don't know 0:24:09.280 --> 0:24:12.680 what's the word. I'm teasing you too much. I'll start so, 0:24:12.920 --> 0:24:15.800 drugged up couple is running through the arches, and I 0:24:15.880 --> 0:24:20.119 wrote through, not the arches, just some arches. What do 0:24:20.160 --> 0:24:22.480 you think of when you think of arches? Your go 0:24:22.640 --> 0:24:26.119 to arch? I go to arch because I'm sorry, but 0:24:26.280 --> 0:24:30.240 McDonald's was my second. Yeah, when you say arches, I 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:31.360 think McDonald's first. 0:24:31.400 --> 0:24:34.520 Thing. Wow, when you're talking about like actual I mean 0:24:34.560 --> 0:24:38.200 the Saint Louis the Arch, I guess this is called 0:24:38.280 --> 0:24:40.960 Bethesda Terraces it's in Central park Way. 0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:43.359 To look that where they are? I have it in 0:24:43.440 --> 0:24:45.080 my old notes from when we did it live. 0:24:45.680 --> 0:24:48.440 Wow, because I was like, where are they I've seen 0:24:48.520 --> 0:24:50.760 this area of New York of the city. 0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:55.160 It's like it's part of Central Park Wow. So the girl, 0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:58.760 she's quirky, she wants to dance. They're dancing, but then 0:24:58.800 --> 0:25:01.159 she starts laughing at his dance, which is a man's 0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:07.320 number one fear. So he gets mad immediately and but yeah, 0:25:07.400 --> 0:25:09.520 we're like, he's about to murder her, but it's too 0:25:09.880 --> 0:25:12.800 it's too early. So she does baby talk at him 0:25:13.040 --> 0:25:18.800 and he's like, you little bitch, like I wild. Yeah, 0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:21.159 men just want a girl with a sense of humor JK, 0:25:21.720 --> 0:25:26.160 or they'll fucking hit you. So and the baby talk 0:25:26.240 --> 0:25:28.400 sounds like the Sex and the City guy that talks 0:25:28.440 --> 0:25:29.720 to Samantha and baby talk. 0:25:29.800 --> 0:25:32.040 It's like disgusting. I don't know why anyone would do 0:25:32.080 --> 0:25:35.240 it as a grownup. It really sickens me. Yeah, this girl, 0:25:35.600 --> 0:25:38.159 the girl in this scene is the girl who plays Supergirl. 0:25:38.560 --> 0:25:40.879 Like she's also in Glee. I know her from Glee, 0:25:41.440 --> 0:25:45.480 but she was Supergirl in like this CW Supergirl show forever. 0:25:45.600 --> 0:25:47.920 So some people might know her from that. I don't 0:25:47.960 --> 0:25:49.960 know the guy at all. He's not worth me looking 0:25:50.000 --> 0:25:52.200 up because he's being an asshole. 0:25:53.119 --> 0:25:53.520 So whatever. 0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:56.560 So he's like, stop it, stop it, but she takes 0:25:56.600 --> 0:25:58.840 off her dress and starts running in her bra and panties, 0:25:58.920 --> 0:26:03.200 so he's not really mad an ymy, he's pumped. The 0:26:03.280 --> 0:26:06.600 mood is not ruined, but then it is ruined because 0:26:06.680 --> 0:26:09.520 there's a dead woman in the fountain. It's dirty, this 0:26:09.720 --> 0:26:13.280 is sad. Her eyes are fully open and then she's 0:26:13.359 --> 0:26:15.879 out of the water, like cuts to her at like 0:26:15.960 --> 0:26:18.440 with everyone on the scene, and it is the most 0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:20.960 close up close up I've ever seen of red eyes. 0:26:21.520 --> 0:26:24.040 It's just scary. It's scary. It's her zoom in her 0:26:24.119 --> 0:26:27.240 like full on face blue late text. Glove is pointing 0:26:27.320 --> 0:26:30.480 to the red eyes and it's petikia, which means she 0:26:30.640 --> 0:26:33.520 drowned and it's not our usual emmy, and this bitch 0:26:33.640 --> 0:26:34.760 is like victim blaming. 0:26:35.720 --> 0:26:38.680 She goes, how is she even dead? Seems too shallow 0:26:39.160 --> 0:26:41.120 and it's like aren't you a science cop? 0:26:41.320 --> 0:26:44.000 Like how do you know? How do you not know 0:26:44.080 --> 0:26:44.520 the answer? 0:26:46.119 --> 0:26:50.320 Yeah, And then Benson is in her like blonde like 0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:55.560 honey Highlight era starts asking questions, and this woman goes, yeah, 0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:58.879 I got some blood and semen in her Hucci who okay, 0:26:59.040 --> 0:27:01.600 forensics guy from Dexter, Like they need to be set 0:27:01.680 --> 0:27:04.800 up on a date. I swear they could like disrespect 0:27:04.960 --> 0:27:06.040 victims from coast to. 0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.360 Coast ak like we also just didn't we just get 0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:15.080 rid of fucking stucky, Like yeah, yeah, we just covered 0:27:15.119 --> 0:27:18.240 of Sucky two seasons ago. And now you're like, I 0:27:18.280 --> 0:27:21.000 don't know, we need another like CSU Tech who kind 0:27:21.000 --> 0:27:23.560 of disrespects it like the entire like practice in the 0:27:23.760 --> 0:27:25.840 entire industry. Can we get somebody in there like that 0:27:26.480 --> 0:27:30.520 Hoochi who It's like not what we like. We love Warner. 0:27:31.800 --> 0:27:34.440 And and Judas Ciper like you know what I mean, 0:27:34.640 --> 0:27:37.720 Like yeah, the smart intelligence. 0:27:38.200 --> 0:27:40.600 I don't even take a Rednick. I didn't even take 0:27:40.640 --> 0:27:41.520 a rednick JK. 0:27:41.920 --> 0:27:47.160 But Benson doesn't say a word, but her face says everything, 0:27:47.200 --> 0:27:49.760 and the woman says, oh sorry, and then goes, sometimes 0:27:49.800 --> 0:27:54.560 I forget that they're people. I mean, it's good for 0:27:54.680 --> 0:27:57.600 the dead, but maybe like full more it is the 0:27:57.680 --> 0:27:59.480 more like maybe funeral, Like. 0:27:59.520 --> 0:28:02.840 I don't know, Oh, I we gotta have respect, Okay. 0:28:02.960 --> 0:28:05.400 So she turns to Maloney who just walked on over, 0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.840 and she's like, hey, you get anything from Skinny or dipper? 0:28:10.520 --> 0:28:13.399 An stable responds, well, he's obsessed with her and she 0:28:13.600 --> 0:28:16.440 never wants to see him again. So then the science 0:28:16.520 --> 0:28:19.000 woman is still like joking around and I'm like, are 0:28:19.040 --> 0:28:21.960 you not like a little bit haunted by this wet, 0:28:22.119 --> 0:28:24.920 dead woman with red eyes that are fully peering at you? 0:28:25.160 --> 0:28:28.200 But okay, So then she says, guys, this is not 0:28:28.440 --> 0:28:31.200 a fashion statement. And it's in a very intense zoom 0:28:31.280 --> 0:28:34.520 with loud music. Seems like a parody drag race, sketch, 0:28:34.680 --> 0:28:36.879 noise and effect like it is not. 0:28:37.240 --> 0:28:38.360 Sview at all. 0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:42.000 It's like do like so zoomed in and it's just 0:28:42.080 --> 0:28:44.000 like a little bit of this woman's hair is cut 0:28:44.080 --> 0:28:46.720 from underneath long hair, so just like a honk of 0:28:46.800 --> 0:28:50.040 hair is gone. I guess it could be someone'smo everyone's upset. 0:28:50.080 --> 0:28:52.560 We're in the credits. So now we're at the precinct 0:28:52.760 --> 0:28:56.120 and uh, you know it's a new precinct, it's a 0:28:56.200 --> 0:28:59.240 new office they've moved to there. It's Chelsea Piers, it's 0:28:59.280 --> 0:29:04.160 no longer Jersey Z And they blame a flood or something. 0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:07.080 I'm like, what kind of flood, aren't you guys on 0:29:07.120 --> 0:29:12.320 the fourth floor? But it was like elevators. But but 0:29:12.560 --> 0:29:15.800 Finn comes in. There's a matching m Central Park barber. 0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:19.520 This creep loves snipping a chunk out of a woman's hair, 0:29:19.640 --> 0:29:24.600 and they call him Sassoon for Vidal Sassoon, and then 0:29:24.680 --> 0:29:27.960 Benson this seems like something that I would be like, Sassoon, 0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:30.880 whatever that means, and then Benson would be like, oh, 0:29:31.120 --> 0:29:32.959 he revolutionized. 0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:36.040 Them soon yeah, and then let's not forget Eden Sassoon, 0:29:36.200 --> 0:29:39.760 who did not revolutionize the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. No, 0:29:40.880 --> 0:29:44.040 and so, and Ben's so. Then Benson goes, you know, 0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:47.640 I can I can use a trim an insane. This 0:29:47.800 --> 0:29:50.520 is an insane part of this episode, which is a 0:29:50.560 --> 0:29:54.200 lot saying how where this goes? But they Okay, So 0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:57.160 they're gonna bait this man in the biggest park that 0:29:57.240 --> 0:30:01.200 I've ever been man for maybe the possibility he's out 0:30:01.280 --> 0:30:03.040 that day and is gonna be on the bench and 0:30:03.120 --> 0:30:07.040 spot her to cut her hair. It's insane. In Central Park, 0:30:07.080 --> 0:30:09.840 which is massive. If you've never been to New York, 0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:11.000 it's humongous. 0:30:11.400 --> 0:30:18.520 It's tens, tens and tens of blocks, so she's on 0:30:18.600 --> 0:30:20.600 a bench and she's hoaring out her hair. 0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:25.440 She's flipping it around. It's shimming commercial shit. Yeah's shaking 0:30:25.520 --> 0:30:26.040 it all out. 0:30:26.240 --> 0:30:26.480 Yeah. 0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.600 And then there you know, she's on a fake phone call. 0:30:29.720 --> 0:30:34.000 She goes, my hair is so good. My hair feels shiny. 0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:37.120 I feel like a million bucks. And then a man 0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:39.960 is close to her and too close, like if a 0:30:40.040 --> 0:30:41.920 stranger sat even that close to me on a bench 0:30:42.000 --> 0:30:43.520 without trying to cut my hair and be like, what 0:30:43.600 --> 0:30:46.600 the fuck are you doing. He has a white guy afro, 0:30:47.080 --> 0:30:50.440 like a Bob Ross situation, but not as robust, and 0:30:50.520 --> 0:30:53.040 then he takes out his scissors and right as he's 0:30:53.080 --> 0:30:56.520 about to chop Benson's gorgeous hair, Stabler grabs him right 0:30:56.560 --> 0:30:58.680 before the cut, and then they go what are you 0:30:58.840 --> 0:31:02.400 up to, sassoon, And they find blonde hair in his pocket, 0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:05.320 so they take him in. He's dragged into the office 0:31:06.080 --> 0:31:09.080 and he goes, she was already dead before I cut 0:31:09.120 --> 0:31:10.640 her hair, and they're like, yeah, but you raped her. 0:31:10.720 --> 0:31:12.320 He goes, no, I have a lullaby. 0:31:13.040 --> 0:31:15.760 So he's stupid and they all laugh at him and 0:31:15.840 --> 0:31:18.760 he goes, I was at Banana Trama all night, and 0:31:18.840 --> 0:31:20.680 then they throw him in the cage that's in the 0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:24.360 middle of the room. So Banana Raama is a transvestite club, 0:31:24.880 --> 0:31:27.080 and he was getting a miss a lap dance from 0:31:27.200 --> 0:31:31.920 Miss Terry. And so there's also like those whole precincts 0:31:32.000 --> 0:31:35.960 like during this investigation, there's boxes and ladders and paint. 0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:38.960 And then Munch of course like drove to the wrong 0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:42.320 precincts that morning. And to me, Munch seems like a 0:31:42.480 --> 0:31:46.000 train guy, Like I feel like he would be a 0:31:46.080 --> 0:31:50.360 believer of public transportation. I'm really shocked that he would 0:31:50.480 --> 0:31:53.240 drive to the precincts. Where do you think Munch lives? 0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:56.120 I don't know. I could kind of see him leaving 0:31:56.520 --> 0:31:58.920 living like deep in a story are or something. 0:31:59.000 --> 0:32:02.200 I don't know. I don't know. In my head, it's 0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:05.000 like Chelsea, like from I don't know. 0:32:05.760 --> 0:32:08.320 Yeah, So, not only did he drive to the wrong 0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:11.680 precinct he walks into a ladder this detect maybe the 0:32:11.760 --> 0:32:16.520 transition glasses should lighten up, and so paint spills all 0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:20.080 over his outfit. He screams, he goes all hell breaks 0:32:20.160 --> 0:32:23.440 loose when Kragan's not here, and we don't know why 0:32:23.520 --> 0:32:27.240 Craigan's not here. None of the former episodes would inform 0:32:27.360 --> 0:32:29.920 this information. It's also not in near any of the 0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:32.040 times he did get in trouble or stand up for 0:32:32.120 --> 0:32:34.160 someone and had to be like, I don't know what's 0:32:34.200 --> 0:32:34.520 going on. 0:32:35.120 --> 0:32:36.280 Maybe he just took a trip. 0:32:36.720 --> 0:32:40.000 We do know Dan Florek was commuting from California to 0:32:40.080 --> 0:32:42.920 New York, so maybe he just had something to Yeah, 0:32:43.080 --> 0:32:44.480 like he got fucked. 0:32:44.160 --> 0:32:45.920 And like or needed to do something with his wife 0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:47.880 and he couldn't be at that episode. 0:32:48.080 --> 0:32:51.120 Yeah, because he does show up later in this episode, 0:32:51.320 --> 0:32:55.760 so I don't know. So then Stabler goes this guy's lullaby, 0:32:56.600 --> 0:33:01.000 you know it checks that he was all nights and 0:33:01.120 --> 0:33:03.880 the haircutter guy's not it because he was kicked out 0:33:03.880 --> 0:33:05.800 at four point thirty in the morning and that wouldn't 0:33:05.840 --> 0:33:07.000 like work with the time of death. 0:33:07.960 --> 0:33:10.040 So this is a jam packed episode. 0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:13.560 We get Mika Vaughn your New Ada for one episode, 0:33:14.200 --> 0:33:16.280 and if you want to play a drinking game or 0:33:16.320 --> 0:33:18.480 you're smoking some weed, I guess you can eat a 0:33:18.520 --> 0:33:22.560 mushroom every time we say something wink wink. But every 0:33:22.600 --> 0:33:27.080 time she mentioned mentions her son drenched loft, you will 0:33:27.160 --> 0:33:27.800 get fucked up. 0:33:28.640 --> 0:33:31.560 This bitch does not, and it's Paula Patten famously got 0:33:31.640 --> 0:33:33.080 cheeted on by Robin Thick. 0:33:33.320 --> 0:33:35.840 Not that that defines her, but that's mostly what I 0:33:35.880 --> 0:33:37.960 know about her. And she's not very good. We don't 0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:40.080 really care. And I guess she booked James Bond or 0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:44.080 Mission Impossible, and so Neil Bhaer told us he was like, listen, girl, 0:33:44.120 --> 0:33:46.280 I'm not gonna hold you back, like we'll write you out. 0:33:46.400 --> 0:33:49.440 So she was gonna be regular, and I wonder how 0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:51.960 that would have panned out, but she could have still 0:33:52.000 --> 0:33:52.680 been at the show. 0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:56.280 He also told us that Meka Vaughn is an anagram 0:33:56.400 --> 0:34:01.240 of Kim Novak, these old actresses that you know, Neil 0:34:01.320 --> 0:34:02.160 Bear was obsessed with. 0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:04.600 So that's an interesting little tidbit too. 0:34:05.080 --> 0:34:07.880 But yeah, the problem is is, like you can get 0:34:07.920 --> 0:34:11.640 somebody gorgeous, We've done it before with Gray Lick, they 0:34:11.800 --> 0:34:13.520 have to also be good. They have to be a 0:34:13.560 --> 0:34:17.400 Stephanie March. They have to be uh dian Neal, you know, 0:34:17.520 --> 0:34:20.000 like they have to be good looking and good at acting. 0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:23.120 And unfortunately, at least in this role, I'm not feeling 0:34:23.160 --> 0:34:25.959 it from Paula. But no, she's in a different show, 0:34:26.040 --> 0:34:28.879 like she's in a rom com. She's in like she's 0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:33.240 she's totally in a different show. She's like, hey, cuties, 0:34:33.280 --> 0:34:35.800 anybody want my loft? Okay, let's go. Like it's just 0:34:35.960 --> 0:34:38.399 so weird, like the Tonally, it's like she's never seen 0:34:38.480 --> 0:34:40.120 us view and she's like, I got it and just 0:34:40.239 --> 0:34:43.000 marched onto set and started doing this fucking twenty seven 0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:43.920 dresses bullshit. 0:34:44.320 --> 0:34:48.120 Yeah, and so then you know, our detectives go, I'm 0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:49.520 you know, Sabler Benson. 0:34:49.640 --> 0:34:54.480 She goes, wow, no first names, shut up? Who cares? 0:34:54.640 --> 0:34:55.200 How do you like? 0:34:55.440 --> 0:34:57.840 Who cares? She whatever? 0:34:58.040 --> 0:35:00.360 So she's like, okay, so the DNA from the semen 0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:03.520 inside your victim, Like, what's up? You know, I looked 0:35:03.560 --> 0:35:07.920 it up and we did a familial match and we've 0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:12.600 got Monica Worley. So her brother is the person who's 0:35:12.640 --> 0:35:16.719 semen is inside your victim and she was arrested for 0:35:16.800 --> 0:35:20.120 assaulting a cop at a Republican convention in two thousand 0:35:20.120 --> 0:35:20.480 and four. 0:35:21.000 --> 0:35:24.480 Props to Monica. That's with this episode. 0:35:25.360 --> 0:35:28.440 So and then she goes, lucky, we can do this 0:35:28.600 --> 0:35:31.920 here because in Illinois I can't do these little matches. 0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:35.560 But she goes, you know, I'm here from Chicago. I'm 0:35:35.600 --> 0:35:38.440 ready to ditch the Bears. For the giants, and Sailor 0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:42.040 goes jets and it's like, of course, you loser, you 0:35:42.239 --> 0:35:45.839 Catholic loser, just on a path to suffer. So she says, 0:35:45.880 --> 0:35:48.480 if you know anybody that wants my son drench loft 0:35:48.520 --> 0:35:53.600 on Lake Michigan. The seller is motivated and she also 0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:56.960 wants a jingle once they talk to the rapist's sister, 0:35:57.280 --> 0:35:59.600 and so then Benson and Staylor go find the sister 0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:00.399 and she's mime. 0:36:01.200 --> 0:36:01.799 She's a mime. 0:36:02.040 --> 0:36:04.680 She has a caution tape headband. She has white face 0:36:04.760 --> 0:36:07.640 paint clip on big giant earring. She's wearing a white 0:36:07.719 --> 0:36:10.560 jumpsuit and holding a fake rope but has a real 0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:14.680 hammer hanging off her jumpsuit and she's holding this fake 0:36:14.880 --> 0:36:18.480 rope so tight, and she will not acknowledge the authorities. 0:36:18.520 --> 0:36:21.919 So Stabler mime sawing. 0:36:21.680 --> 0:36:22.320 The rope. 0:36:24.080 --> 0:36:26.600 So good, and she's so good. 0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.719 She goes, ugh, you suck at mime, and he says, 0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:32.920 you suck at cooperating with the police, and she says 0:36:33.000 --> 0:36:33.560 what did I do? 0:36:33.760 --> 0:36:35.759 And they say your brother, and she says, oh, what 0:36:35.920 --> 0:36:39.000 did you do this time? And she's like, he, I 0:36:39.080 --> 0:36:41.640 always knew you'd go too far. He felt like the 0:36:41.680 --> 0:36:44.680 trust fund entitled him to pot any woman he wanted, 0:36:45.040 --> 0:36:47.760 and he owns a brownstone on seventy fifth and fifth 0:36:47.920 --> 0:36:51.000 and she just sold him out. No loyalty here, and 0:36:51.440 --> 0:36:54.719 she has black outlined lips with like orange lipstick. This 0:36:54.800 --> 0:36:57.520 woman is deranged, Like I can't describe her. 0:36:58.040 --> 0:36:58.879 She's like the person. 0:36:59.000 --> 0:37:01.480 It's like these two come money and the brother has 0:37:01.560 --> 0:37:04.239 turned into like a tool and she has like been 0:37:04.320 --> 0:37:06.640 like I'm going to go against my family wealth. And 0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:08.720 even though she probably has a nice apartment, she spends 0:37:08.760 --> 0:37:11.200 her time like doing performance art to try to like 0:37:11.719 --> 0:37:14.520 be important with her money, like say something with her 0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:19.480 life instead of being you know, she's the classic that 0:37:19.600 --> 0:37:22.200 I think you would say, why are you working? Just 0:37:22.400 --> 0:37:26.799 be rich, and she's like not working, She's she's yeah, 0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:30.240 bono mining on the sidewalk. I wonder if the actress 0:37:30.280 --> 0:37:32.160 that got this part was like, Wow, I did not 0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:37.040 think my college min was ever gonna come into be helpful. 0:37:37.200 --> 0:37:39.600 And there it is a part on SVU where you're 0:37:39.600 --> 0:37:41.600 playing an unhinged min with a trust fund. 0:37:42.200 --> 0:37:44.520 Yeah I'm obsessed, but okay. 0:37:44.640 --> 0:37:47.000 So we go to the douche Lord and he's walking 0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:50.000 in with Stabler and it's yeah, he has a slutty 0:37:50.080 --> 0:37:52.719 douche vibe and they're in cement room bars and they 0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:55.880 throw the photo of the body more vibe like morg style. 0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:58.160 I will stop saying vibes. I have to get a grip. 0:37:58.280 --> 0:38:03.040 I have to get a grip, get a grip. I 0:38:03.160 --> 0:38:05.440 was doing an audition with Ted and there was oh 0:38:05.480 --> 0:38:07.040 my god, okay, so you know, I try. I go 0:38:07.120 --> 0:38:09.800 out for funky stuff. I would say, I'm always pushing myself. 0:38:10.200 --> 0:38:12.200 The one role that broke me, we couldn't even send 0:38:12.239 --> 0:38:14.160 in the tape. I was supposed to just be like 0:38:14.320 --> 0:38:16.239 a loving, supporting wife and. 0:38:16.320 --> 0:38:18.880 I could not do it. I could not do it. 0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:21.840 I kept failing. I kept and then I kept add libbing, 0:38:21.880 --> 0:38:23.439 Oh my gosh, where I had to cut it early. 0:38:23.520 --> 0:38:26.520 He goes, I've been counting. You said it six times 0:38:26.719 --> 0:38:28.600 like I was not. I could not stop saying, oh 0:38:28.640 --> 0:38:31.000 my gosh, I got a sweater. I'm like, I'm just 0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:34.040 a wife at a barbecue. I'm just having a good time. 0:38:34.560 --> 0:38:36.880 And I couldn't do it. I couldn't do it, couldn't 0:38:36.960 --> 0:38:39.080 do it. He's like, I don't think. He's like, let's 0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:42.359 just do the other character. I go, Okay, my god, 0:38:42.520 --> 0:38:45.040 I have all the takes. I have like seventeen takes 0:38:45.120 --> 0:38:47.560 of me. Just try it's the one sheet of lines. 0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:47.759 It was. 0:38:47.920 --> 0:38:50.800 There was no depth to it in any capacity I was. 0:38:51.120 --> 0:38:54.600 It was just like two scenes of doting like suburban woman, 0:38:55.239 --> 0:38:57.920 and it broke me. I'm like sending in tapes for 0:38:58.000 --> 0:38:59.000 Wayne Gacy's sister. 0:38:59.239 --> 0:38:59.600 Got it. 0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:04.520 That I can handle? 0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:06.840 I couldn't. 0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:07.840 I can't do it. 0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:10.480 Well, they've been fun. I did not get something I 0:39:10.600 --> 0:39:13.680 really wanted recently. But that's not an intro, so I'll 0:39:13.719 --> 0:39:16.239 get back to the episode. Yeah, because the product, the 0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.680 production called and they go, are you okay with full 0:39:18.800 --> 0:39:20.279 nudity and stimulated sex? 0:39:20.360 --> 0:39:23.440 And I went for sure, but someone else, Yeah, I 0:39:23.520 --> 0:39:25.560 didn't get it. Oh that makes you feel like it's 0:39:26.400 --> 0:39:28.960 gonna happen right, Well, I knew I was at least 0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:30.680 in the mix. But the people they gave it to 0:39:31.360 --> 0:39:36.759 are well, they just it's perfect. It's gonna be perfect. Yeah, 0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:39.920 the people who got it, I'm very happy for them. 0:39:40.080 --> 0:39:41.960 Oh gotcha? Okay? Yeah, that's what I mean. 0:39:42.040 --> 0:39:44.520 Like they because when someone told me, I smiled and 0:39:44.560 --> 0:39:46.080 they go, why do you hate her? I go, no, 0:39:46.200 --> 0:39:48.239 it's kind of perfect casting and that makes sense. 0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:49.040 Oh, got it. 0:39:49.320 --> 0:39:50.600 At the end of the day, I'm a lover of 0:39:50.680 --> 0:39:52.960 the craft. If I'm not the right person, I'm not 0:39:53.000 --> 0:39:58.400 the right person. But whatever, So murder face and the 0:39:58.440 --> 0:40:01.480 guy goes, listen, sex was consensual, and he also was like, 0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:05.640 blonde curls, and so like, sex is consensual, but no 0:40:05.880 --> 0:40:09.359 Raper murder. And then he uh, called well, I also 0:40:09.480 --> 0:40:10.880 would like to say that I did have to do 0:40:10.960 --> 0:40:16.240 this sex scene with Ted on zoom. That was the audition, really, 0:40:16.600 --> 0:40:19.880 I sent it in, yeah, but I couldn't but I 0:40:20.000 --> 0:40:22.480 handled it. And then just being like a woman at 0:40:22.520 --> 0:40:25.920 a barbecue spiraled me where I'm just like, oh my gosh, 0:40:26.320 --> 0:40:30.080 the vibes, the vibes, I'm not a real person anymore. 0:40:30.719 --> 0:40:34.120 Oh my son, I saw a video. The vibes are immaculate. 0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:40.479 Like anyways, So this dude, she's a classic. It's consensual sex. 0:40:40.560 --> 0:40:44.879 It's consensual. No Raper murder. He calls her blondie, which 0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:49.640 Stabler does not like, and so and then he goes, well, 0:40:49.640 --> 0:40:51.680 I don't even know her name. She came over to 0:40:51.800 --> 0:40:55.040 me and she said she was hot and wet. So 0:40:55.120 --> 0:40:58.120 Stabler clears his throat and goes, why would anyone throw 0:40:58.200 --> 0:41:01.120 themselves at you, and he's like, I don't know, but 0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:04.360 she did and I and then he goes and she 0:41:04.560 --> 0:41:08.040 even took out a tampon before we did it. And 0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:15.680 then Stabler goes, Okay, where's the tampon and he goes, 0:41:15.840 --> 0:41:18.640 killer ate it and it's his wienie dog, and yeah, 0:41:18.760 --> 0:41:20.560 one tampon will ruin a weenie dog, Like. 0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:21.719 You do have to take them to the vet. 0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:24.520 It's like they are looking for a killer and you're 0:41:24.560 --> 0:41:26.640 just going killerate it. Like it is like it's a 0:41:26.760 --> 0:41:29.640 full Laurel and Hardy episode. They're like, oh the tampon, 0:41:29.640 --> 0:41:32.520 who ate it? Killer ated a killer? Who's the killer? Oh? 0:41:32.600 --> 0:41:34.520 My dog? Like it's so wild. 0:41:35.320 --> 0:41:37.400 I didn't even catch that because I was still so 0:41:37.600 --> 0:41:39.080 crazy about this tampon, Like. 0:41:40.719 --> 0:41:41.200 Like, how is that? 0:41:41.320 --> 0:41:44.000 I guess I know that speriod now. But if you 0:41:44.120 --> 0:41:47.719 rape someone, you could also take out the tampon. Yeah, 0:41:47.719 --> 0:41:53.680 I don't think taking out a tampon equals consent, right nothing, 0:41:54.040 --> 0:41:54.920 what does that even mean? 0:41:55.760 --> 0:41:55.800 So? 0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:58.560 But whatever, But also if he kept the tampon, like 0:41:58.640 --> 0:42:01.120 then Stabler brings like where's the tam You want him 0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:03.440 to keep the tampon? You want him to be like Oh, 0:42:03.480 --> 0:42:05.480 I have a jar at my house with all these tampons, 0:42:05.520 --> 0:42:08.399 I'd rip out of women like I don't that would 0:42:08.440 --> 0:42:12.400 be better for you, Stabler. Anyways, this guy, he has 0:42:12.480 --> 0:42:14.480 it all on tape, and Stabler's like, why wouldn't you 0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:16.719 say that in the beginning, but he has it on tape, 0:42:16.719 --> 0:42:18.000 but also why would you have it on tape? And 0:42:18.080 --> 0:42:21.040 basically he does videos for a website called sex Prowl. 0:42:21.520 --> 0:42:24.320 It's the YouTube of sex and he taped the encounter 0:42:24.440 --> 0:42:27.440 from last night. So it's a tall woman, she's in 0:42:27.520 --> 0:42:31.080 a business suit and she is saying I'm hot, I'm wet, 0:42:31.239 --> 0:42:34.520 while slowly peeling off her clothing. But she also does 0:42:34.600 --> 0:42:37.160 look like an alien, like fully deranged, out of this world. 0:42:37.239 --> 0:42:40.040 Her eyes are staring off like something is often its freaky, 0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:43.520 very barbarian, and she's saying, I want it now, and 0:42:43.640 --> 0:42:46.359 she's just like desperate to fuck, I want it now, 0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:49.680 taking off her bra. So everyone's watching the tape and 0:42:49.760 --> 0:42:52.680 the dude goes, tell ja, but we might still have 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:55.040 him for murder, and Finn goes, nope, not anymore. 0:42:55.160 --> 0:42:56.160 He was at the vet till. 0:42:56.080 --> 0:42:56.600 Six a m. 0:42:57.120 --> 0:42:59.640 So he goes, can I get out of here? Stabler says, 0:42:59.800 --> 0:43:03.960 not fast enough. So now Mikavon introduces herself to Finn, 0:43:04.120 --> 0:43:06.600 and I mean he's smitten like a cartoon guy like 0:43:06.800 --> 0:43:10.800 jaw on the floor and he goes, hey, I'm Odafin 0:43:10.960 --> 0:43:12.480 and she goes, wow, a first name. 0:43:12.719 --> 0:43:13.040 Love that. 0:43:13.400 --> 0:43:15.800 It's like, you fucking freak your fetish. This is not 0:43:16.920 --> 0:43:19.919 this is not normal. I've also never seen Fin work harder. 0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:21.879 Like she asks him to do something, he goes right 0:43:21.960 --> 0:43:25.000 on it, boss, no problem, Like he runs off. So 0:43:25.120 --> 0:43:28.440 then Stabler goes to the screen to get you know, 0:43:28.760 --> 0:43:32.000 like the sex site off the big screen, and Munch 0:43:32.120 --> 0:43:34.759 is in a full copy uniform. So Stabler stops his 0:43:34.960 --> 0:43:37.920 task and then makes fun of his friend and he goes, whatever, 0:43:38.040 --> 0:43:40.640 I had a paint attack, Like no clean clothes, so 0:43:40.719 --> 0:43:44.480 this bitch isn't doing his laundry and but he's so 0:43:44.600 --> 0:43:47.239 but he had his cop uniform laying around, but to 0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:49.400 not have one bit of laundry and also are you 0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:51.000 dry cleaning the suits anyways? 0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:52.960 No, I think it was like it happened at the 0:43:53.080 --> 0:43:56.319 office if we just changed into his suit, right, yeah, 0:43:56.320 --> 0:43:57.440 but he could be like I didn't have any other 0:43:57.480 --> 0:43:59.880 clothes here, but to be like there's no clean laundry. 0:44:00.040 --> 0:44:02.440 I bet he stops home. I bet he lives in Chelsea, 0:44:03.120 --> 0:44:06.200 But why is he driving you to Chelsea? 0:44:06.440 --> 0:44:07.120 Doesn't make sense. 0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:09.640 He you know what, Belser lived on the Upper West 0:44:09.680 --> 0:44:12.200 Side because he lived near me, because I would see him. 0:44:12.560 --> 0:44:14.359 So maybe he's an Upper West Side guy. I could 0:44:14.360 --> 0:44:18.000 see that too, you know. So that's still a wild drive. 0:44:18.640 --> 0:44:19.840 It's it's still crazy. 0:44:20.719 --> 0:44:23.880 So then a man, crazed man walks in, pointing to 0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:26.520 the screen and he goes, is this your case? And 0:44:26.719 --> 0:44:29.560 when Stabler says yes, this man goes you son of 0:44:29.600 --> 0:44:33.000 a bitch, swings that Stabler misses. Stabler is like, oh, 0:44:33.239 --> 0:44:35.759 take it easy, you know, like he's a horse and 0:44:35.960 --> 0:44:39.879 someone sent him this viral email. He's wheezing, and he goes, 0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:42.600 my name is Greg Elding and that's my wife. 0:44:43.640 --> 0:44:46.680 And so that's sad. So now I just don't get 0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:50.160 what you thought was gonna happen from punching the cop 0:44:50.239 --> 0:44:53.640 that's leading your wife's case. I don't. I mean, I know, 0:44:53.719 --> 0:44:55.799 we're all mad, we're we're sad, we're mad we've lost 0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:59.040 your wife, But you're punching the lead cop in the case. 0:44:59.120 --> 0:45:01.440 I don't know. What he is his thought process was there? 0:45:01.719 --> 0:45:05.080 All right? So Greg's in it's his wife. Of course, 0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:05.719 this is sad. 0:45:06.320 --> 0:45:09.200 And they send a full uniform Munch into the like 0:45:09.239 --> 0:45:13.200 a third space office third and we need info. Lindsay 0:45:13.280 --> 0:45:15.440 was at the office yesterday. She is head of PR 0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:20.879 for Cola Now, and Munch goes, wow, high pressure job. 0:45:21.000 --> 0:45:23.880 Does she love drugs? And he goes, actually, yeah, but 0:45:24.040 --> 0:45:26.719 up until a year ago, she's a recovering addict and 0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:29.279 she would never go back. He plays a video of 0:45:29.320 --> 0:45:31.759 her on his phone to prove the real Lindsay is 0:45:31.800 --> 0:45:34.680 not some hopped up pore but a family woman at 0:45:34.760 --> 0:45:44.120 the park and Colon Now donate. So Colon Now donates 0:45:44.239 --> 0:45:46.399 jungle gyms. That's not what I called it as a youth, 0:45:46.480 --> 0:45:49.040 I said playground. I never used the term jungle gym. 0:45:49.239 --> 0:45:52.560 My kids call it the apparatus. Oh my god, they 0:45:53.880 --> 0:45:56.399 they go, they go. And I was on the apparatus 0:45:56.520 --> 0:45:57.840 and he was trying to get in front of me, 0:45:57.920 --> 0:45:59.880 because that's what I think. That's probably what the teachers 0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:07.560 it like, the playground apparatus. She'll always be like the apparatus. 0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:11.080 Oh my god, she'll be like at my after school program. 0:46:11.120 --> 0:46:12.839 We don't even have the apparatus. Like then, we don't 0:46:12.840 --> 0:46:15.359 even have access to the apparatus. Oh my god, that's 0:46:15.480 --> 0:46:16.440 so fucking cute. 0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:21.239 So whatever, So Colon now donates a lot of these apparatus. 0:46:21.320 --> 0:46:24.040 I I don't know apparatiparadi. 0:46:24.760 --> 0:46:25.560 So Colon how is. 0:46:25.600 --> 0:46:29.840 Donating apparadi to charities? And she loves helping kids and 0:46:29.920 --> 0:46:33.880 doing pr for Cola and Stabler confirms his alibi. 0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:37.520 Her passion is doing pr for Cola. I don't know 0:46:37.560 --> 0:46:40.680 what to tell you. Oh my god. 0:46:41.440 --> 0:46:43.279 Yeah, I met a girl who's like young, and she 0:46:43.360 --> 0:46:47.000 wants to be a contract lawyer. And I'm like, what's 0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:49.520 what was her childhood? That this is young, you're committing 0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:53.720 to a life of contracts. So confusing to me. But however, 0:46:53.920 --> 0:46:56.920 so Stabler confirms that the husband didn't do it, but 0:46:57.000 --> 0:46:59.520 I never thought it was him, and he apologizes for 0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:01.919 being right. He just lost his mind after he saw 0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:05.160 the video. But you know, he goes working for Cola 0:47:05.440 --> 0:47:07.960 made her a lot of enemies. So they go talk 0:47:08.000 --> 0:47:09.839 to a guy in a suit and Munch is back 0:47:09.880 --> 0:47:12.560 in a suit as well, and the world feels more okay, 0:47:12.880 --> 0:47:15.680 and they're gonna go find these Cola enemies, and people 0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:18.800 are mad at sugar and fat children, and you know tobacco, 0:47:18.960 --> 0:47:21.600 is it cola? What's going on? The man goes, who cares, 0:47:21.960 --> 0:47:25.080 We're not in court because it's Lindsay elling. She's smart 0:47:25.120 --> 0:47:28.359 and sexy, and if the tobacco people had someone as 0:47:28.480 --> 0:47:31.600 sexy and smart as Lindsay, they'd also be able to 0:47:31.680 --> 0:47:34.000 continue a hawking their wares to the. 0:47:34.120 --> 0:47:35.400 Children, to kids. 0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:39.360 So they go talk to now a wild haired, messy 0:47:39.440 --> 0:47:41.759 office mad hatter type of man, and there's a lot 0:47:41.800 --> 0:47:43.880 of pushpins on the board and he of course hates 0:47:43.920 --> 0:47:47.640 cola and he refused one hundred thousand dollars she tried 0:47:47.640 --> 0:47:50.280 to give his organizations. Because he goes, fuck that bribe 0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:53.239 and fuck that bitch, and he goes, soda is bad 0:47:53.320 --> 0:47:56.440 for kids. So he goes go talk to Davy Gamm's 0:47:56.480 --> 0:47:59.200 mother and see what soda did for him. And then 0:47:59.320 --> 0:48:01.759 so we I know, sadly this boy took his own 0:48:01.800 --> 0:48:04.320 life at twelve. He wouldn't put the soda down. He 0:48:04.480 --> 0:48:07.320 was addicted to the cola. And Benson goes, wait, so 0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:09.640 soda made him take his own life. And the mom 0:48:09.880 --> 0:48:12.560 it was also a nurser medical professional. I guess I 0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:15.640 shouldn't be sexist. She could be the highest doctor in town, 0:48:15.760 --> 0:48:18.480 but her scrubs aren't giving that, you know what I mean. 0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:21.319 The scrubs are a shooting star Pastel most yeh yeah 0:48:21.400 --> 0:48:25.520 yeah yeah, maybe a pediatrician, but oh whatever. So she goes, 0:48:25.560 --> 0:48:29.440 obesity can make you depressed. He's depressed. Benson doesn't think 0:48:29.480 --> 0:48:32.279 you can blame soda, and she goes, yeah, yeah, that's 0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.840 what the jury said too. She goes, I would have 0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:38.200 won my case if that woman didn't build the Cola 0:48:38.320 --> 0:48:40.520 Now Athletics Center for the community. 0:48:41.000 --> 0:48:42.600 So we go to the center. I mean, this is 0:48:42.760 --> 0:48:44.080 the funniest episode this is. 0:48:44.320 --> 0:48:47.719 I also love this isn't The athletics center is like 0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:51.680 so wild, Like Coca Cola could buy an athletic center, 0:48:51.719 --> 0:48:53.640 but it wouldn't be allowed to be called. 0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:56.120 The Coca Cola Athletics Center. I don't think there's a 0:48:56.239 --> 0:48:57.279 dary episode about this. 0:48:58.239 --> 0:49:00.920 Like soda company takes all over over the school, and 0:49:00.960 --> 0:49:03.719 then the principal wants more funding, so she starts telling 0:49:03.800 --> 0:49:05.759 the students like, the more soda you drink, the more 0:49:05.760 --> 0:49:06.960 extra credit you're gonna get. 0:49:07.480 --> 0:49:10.160 So then all these kids just like can't stop drinking. 0:49:10.239 --> 0:49:14.959 The soda whatever. So this place is nice gymnastics gym, 0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:17.280 it's probably Chelsea Pierce. 0:49:17.560 --> 0:49:21.880 The probably like let's go next door Cola now posters everywhere, 0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:25.560 but kids are doing varying levels of gymnastics. Stabler presses 0:49:25.640 --> 0:49:27.759 him about the pr stuns, and the dude goes, who 0:49:27.800 --> 0:49:29.320 gives a shit? Look at these kids s aving the 0:49:29.360 --> 0:49:32.200 time of their life. The woman's a hero. So Stabler 0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:34.680 confidently goes into the office and he goes, wow, hero 0:49:34.880 --> 0:49:38.359 to some hated by others. Benson says, that's called doing 0:49:38.440 --> 0:49:41.600 your job, good one. So Finn says, yeah, but I 0:49:41.640 --> 0:49:44.120 hate her because she made the soda tax fail. And 0:49:44.239 --> 0:49:46.080 of course Stable, I mean, this is okay. So we're 0:49:46.080 --> 0:49:47.200 gonna get a social issue. 0:49:47.320 --> 0:49:48.160 And they're all arguing. 0:49:48.320 --> 0:49:51.160 So Stabler goes, well, who wants taxes? 0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:54.560 I bet he voted for Cuomo and or would he 0:49:54.680 --> 0:49:57.279 not because of the sex pest stuff and he is 0:49:57.320 --> 0:49:58.920 an SVU detective. 0:49:59.239 --> 0:50:02.880 I mean honest, Yeah, I think Stabler's voting for Adams, 0:50:02.960 --> 0:50:03.959 to be honest. 0:50:04.239 --> 0:50:08.640 Like, oh yeah, what about Finn? Who are they all? 0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:10.240 But Munch is definitely mom Donnie. 0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:15.720 I don't know about Finn because Finn Adams loves cops. 0:50:16.040 --> 0:50:18.719 He's also another black man. I feel like Finn might 0:50:18.760 --> 0:50:19.680 be going for Adams. 0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:23.320 I don't know. Yeah, but then they hate they hate corruption, 0:50:23.719 --> 0:50:25.400 so I don't know, Oh. 0:50:25.440 --> 0:50:27.880 God, so or whatever. I can't believe. I have to 0:50:28.000 --> 0:50:32.600 summarize this tax conversation. Okay, so Stabler doesn't like taxes. 0:50:33.000 --> 0:50:36.359 Munch says, well, taxes already go to soda for there's 0:50:36.360 --> 0:50:38.920 a four billion dollars subsidy on corn syrup and that's 0:50:38.960 --> 0:50:39.760 why it's so cheap. 0:50:40.360 --> 0:50:41.120 I'm like, bad for you. 0:50:41.600 --> 0:50:43.960 And then the tax on the soda fin ads would 0:50:43.960 --> 0:50:46.240 help pay for the cost of diabetes and heart disease. 0:50:46.560 --> 0:50:48.960 Benson goes, but it's not just soda, Like, come on, 0:50:49.600 --> 0:50:51.759 you know, Lindsay was also helping the little guy, and 0:50:51.920 --> 0:50:54.560 Munch goes, yeah, the little guy brought to you by Cola. 0:50:54.680 --> 0:50:59.399 Now the soda argument keeps going, so then Stabler goes 0:50:59.480 --> 0:51:02.960 money going good is good, and Finn says, well, if 0:51:03.000 --> 0:51:05.680 she really cared about poor kids, they wouldn't go plastering 0:51:05.719 --> 0:51:09.040 their logo everywhere. Finally, George Huang comes out of nowhere, 0:51:09.360 --> 0:51:12.440 poof like a genie, and he just goes, Lindsey was 0:51:12.520 --> 0:51:15.360 poisoned and it's like, what's your take on soda? You 0:51:15.480 --> 0:51:20.560 just stood there in silence as they talked. I just like, okay, 0:51:20.880 --> 0:51:27.280 but whatever. So Lindsay's poisoned. And by four the mushrooms 0:51:27.320 --> 0:51:30.840 were found in her gut. Four species from South America 0:51:31.080 --> 0:51:35.640 with a high dose of mascarine and toxic. And it's 0:51:35.800 --> 0:51:38.239 which is a toxin that makes you hot, sweaty and 0:51:38.360 --> 0:51:43.480 sexually aroused. And then Stabler really slowly says, I'm hot, 0:51:44.320 --> 0:51:47.200 I'm wet, and then explain and then he goes explains 0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:49.680 what she threw herself with this jerk looser and took 0:51:49.760 --> 0:51:51.640 off her clothes and wanted to go in the fountain. 0:51:51.800 --> 0:51:55.200 So this answers everything. Somebody slipped this woman a deadly 0:51:55.440 --> 0:51:59.719 cocktail of shrooms, so Huang says they were in her 0:52:01.080 --> 0:52:03.480 so that means it happened around dinner time. 0:52:03.719 --> 0:52:07.719 So then we find out in her calendar. Sorry, it 0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:10.160 was so funny the ways they were in her ju 0:52:10.280 --> 0:52:17.120 juna dinner time. Just stay in Testine, what are you doing? 0:52:17.480 --> 0:52:18.160 What are you doing? 0:52:18.280 --> 0:52:21.239 Saw on where we found the mushrooms. It was dinner time. 0:52:21.920 --> 0:52:24.719 Felt like a misfrizzult, but it also felt like they 0:52:24.840 --> 0:52:29.040 cut my voice out like someone that could say juno. 0:52:29.480 --> 0:52:34.920 But I watched a few times to make sure. So fundraiser. 0:52:34.960 --> 0:52:37.440 She's at a fundraiser at wishing time. So we go 0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:40.280 to wishing time. We heard a rich old voice, classic 0:52:40.640 --> 0:52:43.960 image of a rich old, mean woman. And this this 0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:46.960 is hers, this wishing time. Her grandfather donated the first 0:52:47.040 --> 0:52:50.319 Teeter Totter to Central Park in nineteen oh seven. See 0:52:50.360 --> 0:52:52.920 that's not I never said Teeter Totter. I say seesaw. 0:52:52.800 --> 0:52:56.680 Seesaw, I say seesaw Teeter Totter's a really old way 0:52:56.760 --> 0:52:57.200 of saying it. 0:52:57.400 --> 0:53:00.320 Okay, not to shade this actress, but that's old. And 0:53:00.520 --> 0:53:03.920 she loves continuing his work, and they fulfill kids wishes. 0:53:04.360 --> 0:53:08.520 They built an anti gang clubhouse, and she loves Lindsay 0:53:08.640 --> 0:53:10.600 and this is such a tragedy and she was an 0:53:10.600 --> 0:53:13.839 amazing woman and then one of the best top ten 0:53:13.920 --> 0:53:14.759 quotes of all time. 0:53:16.160 --> 0:53:18.120 She had a genius for corporate giving. 0:53:18.640 --> 0:53:19.520 So that's like. 0:53:21.560 --> 0:53:23.680 It is a scalet is a skill. People can all 0:53:23.719 --> 0:53:26.640 be good at different things. So anyways, Benson notices something 0:53:26.680 --> 0:53:29.680 behind the woman's head and it's blown up photos from 0:53:29.719 --> 0:53:33.000 the dinner and there are mushrooms on her salad. So 0:53:33.640 --> 0:53:36.560 but there's no mushrooms on the menu. So according to 0:53:36.600 --> 0:53:39.400 this old woman, and she is a legend. She's one 0:53:39.480 --> 0:53:43.360 Drama Desk Awards and Tony's and like a legend of 0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:44.720 screen and stage. 0:53:45.280 --> 0:53:47.480 So I am sorry, I just keep referring to her 0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:51.160 as that old woman. And she Mary Harris, right, yeah, 0:53:51.320 --> 0:53:53.680 and she was born in nineteen twenty seven. 0:53:54.440 --> 0:53:56.759 Yeah, so pretty incredible. 0:53:57.400 --> 0:53:59.080 Yeah, I was just yeah, oh my god. She was 0:53:59.120 --> 0:54:02.680 in Spider Man. Holy shit, she's like the grandma and 0:54:02.800 --> 0:54:06.160 Spider Man. And her birthday is the day before mine. 0:54:06.800 --> 0:54:09.279 She's gonna be ninety eight this fall. She was in 0:54:09.400 --> 0:54:12.840 Search Party. I mean she said something come out in 0:54:12.880 --> 0:54:15.279 twenty twenty four. That's what it means to really love 0:54:15.320 --> 0:54:20.080 what you do. And Lindsey, yeah, you do a really 0:54:20.160 --> 0:54:22.000 good Yeah. Can you talk with her a little bit 0:54:22.080 --> 0:54:24.239 so people know why we're like having the times of 0:54:24.320 --> 0:54:24.800 our lives. 0:54:25.239 --> 0:54:26.759 Do the corporate giving line? 0:54:28.680 --> 0:54:31.759 She had a genius for corporate giving. Like she just 0:54:31.840 --> 0:54:37.000 has this wild, like like vaguely British voice, but just 0:54:37.200 --> 0:54:38.000 kind of like. 0:54:38.040 --> 0:54:40.680 Say, there were no mushrooms on the menu. There were 0:54:40.719 --> 0:54:42.280 no mushrooms on the menu. 0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:46.000 Like she's just really but the best is when she 0:54:46.640 --> 0:54:49.239 like talks to her granddaughter, Oh a little bit with 0:54:49.320 --> 0:54:50.720 a little bit of stink on her voice. 0:54:50.840 --> 0:54:53.800 Yeah, So she calls out for this granddaughter. Perfect timing 0:54:54.000 --> 0:54:58.520 for Emma, the granddaughter and Lindsay, and she goes, Lindsay's 0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:01.279 death was a terrible blow to her. So she asked 0:55:01.320 --> 0:55:03.600 Emma to pull all the photos for the cops. And 0:55:04.480 --> 0:55:07.360 we're on the desktop, we're looking through pictures and she 0:55:07.480 --> 0:55:09.759 explains that they met in rehab and the old ladies like, 0:55:09.800 --> 0:55:12.480 don't air out our dirty laundry. But then she goes, 0:55:12.520 --> 0:55:15.200 Emma's parents died when she was ten, and it's like okay. 0:55:16.320 --> 0:55:18.359 So then they see that, like, none of the other 0:55:18.400 --> 0:55:21.680 plates had mushrooms on them, so who put these mushrooms there? 0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:23.960 But there were over three hundred guests at the Swishing 0:55:24.040 --> 0:55:27.120 Time gala, so they have to take all the picks 0:55:27.160 --> 0:55:29.640 and the photographers and photos and we have to like 0:55:29.760 --> 0:55:32.120 see who did it, because at the end of the day, 0:55:32.160 --> 0:55:34.640 it's someone there put mushrooms on the plate. But then 0:55:34.719 --> 0:55:36.640 in one of these blown up photos there's a man 0:55:36.760 --> 0:55:41.279 being held by multiple security screaming, and Stabler goes, well, 0:55:41.320 --> 0:55:44.120 who's that? Why would you not bring it up, like 0:55:44.400 --> 0:55:46.800 this woman is dead. A man was screaming out it, 0:55:46.920 --> 0:55:48.440 like when you'd be like there was a guy there 0:55:48.520 --> 0:55:50.759 screaming that had to be dragged out, Like it just 0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:54.319 seems so funny. And it's photos of Dave Crumbhole, who 0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:56.800 we love, I mean ten things they hate about you, 0:55:56.960 --> 0:56:02.000 oh like Cannon Canon, he's been working for decades dream career. 0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:05.560 Also, by the way, like you can look at the 0:56:05.640 --> 0:56:08.880 scene cards of this, like the woman was found on 0:56:09.000 --> 0:56:12.839 October fifth, I think or fourth, and like they're talking 0:56:12.880 --> 0:56:15.400 at wishing time on October sixth, like how quickly are 0:56:15.480 --> 0:56:18.319 they blowing up photos from this event? Like the event 0:56:18.440 --> 0:56:20.720 was yesterday and they're like, get a bunch of photos 0:56:20.760 --> 0:56:23.040 of the salads and blow them up as big as possible, 0:56:23.280 --> 0:56:27.359 and we need to display them quickly, like it's so crazy. Yeah, 0:56:27.440 --> 0:56:30.359 when they've been like, oh our friend died. Uh oh yeah, 0:56:30.480 --> 0:56:32.240 chill out on the blowing up of the picks. 0:56:33.760 --> 0:56:36.600 Do so so some Okay, so some guy is yelling 0:56:37.000 --> 0:56:39.359 and I just find it shocking that they wouldn't tell 0:56:39.400 --> 0:56:42.640 the authorities immediately. But Emma goes, oh, it's a homeless 0:56:42.680 --> 0:56:45.320 guy looking for food, and the old lady goes, no, no, no. 0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:49.400 He accosted Lindsey and yelled at her about Bolivia. He 0:56:49.520 --> 0:56:52.520 kept screaming, you can't own the rain. Wait, you have 0:56:52.600 --> 0:56:53.080 to say in the. 0:56:53.080 --> 0:56:54.080 Old Lady Boys. 0:56:57.800 --> 0:57:04.440 Hit anythwhere you can't. He he kept screaming, you can't 0:57:04.600 --> 0:57:07.040 own the rain. You know, like that's sort of what 0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:08.839 she's going. 0:57:09.760 --> 0:57:12.840 It's so crazy. Wait, but also, you know what, I 0:57:13.040 --> 0:57:15.239 just discovered the woman that plays Emma. Her name is 0:57:15.280 --> 0:57:17.960 Amanda Fuller, and I just was like, oh, how con 0:57:18.000 --> 0:57:20.280 We've like never I've like never looked her up, even 0:57:20.320 --> 0:57:22.200 though we've done this at like a bunch of live shows. 0:57:22.640 --> 0:57:29.280 She plays Badison in Orange is the New Black. Yes, 0:57:29.600 --> 0:57:32.880 oh that part. Auditioned for that part, but I. 0:57:33.840 --> 0:57:35.320 Didn't even like put that together. 0:57:36.280 --> 0:57:39.040 She plays Britney Murphy and the Britney Murphy story. I mean, 0:57:39.160 --> 0:57:41.040 she's done a lot of stuff. 0:57:42.320 --> 0:57:45.800 But anyway, so yeah, that's wild. I'm glad she's still 0:57:45.840 --> 0:57:48.800 out there. Yeah, she's working, working up a storm. So 0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:50.880 then Benson goes, it didn't make any sense, like they're 0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:52.120 back in the office, and then it cuts to the 0:57:52.160 --> 0:57:55.040 office and Munch goes, oh, it makes a lot of sense. 0:57:55.400 --> 0:58:01.040 Bolivia's ground zero for the water wars of course, So 0:58:01.200 --> 0:58:03.959 now we have another political debate about owning the rain 0:58:04.160 --> 0:58:07.760 and water. And basically Munch pulls up a blog and 0:58:07.840 --> 0:58:10.880 it's about Colon now and how it's trying to own 0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:13.120 all the water. And guess who the blog writer is. 0:58:13.320 --> 0:58:15.680 It's the guy who was held back and yelled at Lindsay. 0:58:16.080 --> 0:58:19.440 He's a professor. His name is Vincent ProCheck and he's 0:58:19.440 --> 0:58:23.160 a professor of mycology at the Natural History Museum, uh oh, 0:58:23.400 --> 0:58:29.280 and he specializes in toxic South American mushrooms. So then, 0:58:29.720 --> 0:58:32.120 and it's like, why would you use the mushrooms of 0:58:32.240 --> 0:58:36.400 your region to poisons? Like get another mushroom. 0:58:37.400 --> 0:58:39.520 Yeah, if you're a mushroom guy and you want to 0:58:39.600 --> 0:58:41.680 kill somebody, you can't do it with mushrooms. Like that's 0:58:41.840 --> 0:58:45.440 you just can't do that, you know. It's like you 0:58:45.520 --> 0:58:47.280 got to figure out a different weapon of choice. 0:58:47.360 --> 0:58:49.760 They go to his lab. It's dark, it's spooky. There's 0:58:49.760 --> 0:58:53.560 a lot of tanks purple lights. And by tanks, I 0:58:53.640 --> 0:58:58.120 mean not military or tank tops, like tanks that are 0:58:58.320 --> 0:59:02.440 like aquariums that are holding ushrooms and so whatever. He's 0:59:02.520 --> 0:59:07.200 working so deep into these mushrooms with his at like telescope, microscope, glass, 0:59:07.280 --> 0:59:09.640 metal things are on his eyes and he's like looking 0:59:09.720 --> 0:59:12.920 in he doesn't even hear them. They yell for him 0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:16.480 multiple times, and then finally he's like ah. Benson takes 0:59:16.520 --> 0:59:18.280 a pot off a lid and goes, well, what's this 0:59:18.520 --> 0:59:20.800 and it's a bunch of steam goes in there and 0:59:21.000 --> 0:59:22.440 it hits her a little, and so it's just to 0:59:22.520 --> 0:59:24.720 clear her throat. And he goes, it's just mushrooms. Is 0:59:24.760 --> 0:59:28.320 that illegal? She responds, it is if you use it 0:59:28.360 --> 0:59:32.240 to poison someone. He's immediately in cement room bars and 0:59:32.360 --> 0:59:35.400 he has the energy of I would say the Father 0:59:35.520 --> 0:59:39.200 and Beauty and the Beast, a lot of inventions, spastic energy, 0:59:39.440 --> 0:59:42.439 trying to get stuff done, you know, ahead of his time. 0:59:43.160 --> 0:59:46.360 And so he's not by looks, not by looks. It's 0:59:46.400 --> 0:59:49.360 the ever Crumholtz. We've told you, Okay. So he's in 0:59:49.400 --> 0:59:53.120 cement room bars. He's railing about Lindsay yelling and privatizing 0:59:53.200 --> 0:59:56.200 water and he and I'm like, you should be saying 0:59:56.200 --> 0:59:59.640 I want a lawyer. But he agrees that murder is bad, 0:59:59.720 --> 1:00:02.720 but he says I'm glad she's dead, yay, And then 1:00:02.800 --> 1:00:05.400 Benson goes, are you happy. Now this girl is gonna 1:00:05.440 --> 1:00:08.040 grow up without a father, and ProCheck goes, do you 1:00:08.160 --> 1:00:11.360 mean mother, and Sablor goes, yay, mother, and then Sailor 1:00:11.480 --> 1:00:14.720 takes out pictures and says, we have you at the scene, 1:00:14.800 --> 1:00:17.160 and Benson goes yeah and gets right in his face 1:00:17.200 --> 1:00:20.479 and goes at Niagara falls. And so now the string 1:00:20.560 --> 1:00:24.760 instruments start to play, and she says, ring a bell. 1:00:25.240 --> 1:00:27.880 We saw you on the roof with your gunman, and 1:00:28.000 --> 1:00:30.360 so Stablor stands up. He's like, what's up, girl, and 1:00:30.560 --> 1:00:33.960 then she says a famous line. She goes, well, I'm 1:00:34.040 --> 1:00:36.320 not the one who stabbed the captain with a pickle, 1:00:36.720 --> 1:00:39.080 and then the professor goes uh oh, and then stands 1:00:39.160 --> 1:00:41.200 up to help. Stallor turns around and puts his hands 1:00:41.280 --> 1:00:43.920 up on him and shoves him, and he goes, well, 1:00:44.000 --> 1:00:46.080 let me see her eyes, and Staylor goes, you're not 1:00:46.160 --> 1:00:48.280 gonna fucking look at her eyes, and he goes, well, 1:00:48.320 --> 1:00:50.440 she's about to fall, and she does fall right into 1:00:50.480 --> 1:00:53.920 Stabler's arms, and Stablor has to call for a bus. 1:00:54.080 --> 1:00:58.560 Girl down. She inhaled too many mushrooms, so now she's tripping. 1:00:58.640 --> 1:01:00.760 We're in the hospital. She's like on a pillow, the 1:01:00.840 --> 1:01:04.040 most beautiful little snow white we've ever seen. Eyes open, 1:01:05.160 --> 1:01:07.480 and there's Hwang and there's no better way to wake 1:01:07.560 --> 1:01:07.960 up from. 1:01:08.200 --> 1:01:08.320 Uh. 1:01:08.800 --> 1:01:10.320 I would be happy if I woke up in the 1:01:10.760 --> 1:01:13.280 hospital from a drug trip and bed Wong was right there. 1:01:13.760 --> 1:01:17.760 Yeah, that'd be nice. But she's confused. She goes, who 1:01:17.800 --> 1:01:18.840 put rocks in my head? 1:01:19.320 --> 1:01:22.480 And basically he's boiling mushrooms and they arrested him, but 1:01:22.600 --> 1:01:25.160 she breathed them way too deep and the vapors are 1:01:25.240 --> 1:01:26.800 temporarily neurotoxic. 1:01:27.560 --> 1:01:29.600 The one thing on her mind, though, is work. You know, 1:01:29.720 --> 1:01:32.440 she's a workhorse, And so she goes, did he confess 1:01:32.520 --> 1:01:32.920 to murder? 1:01:33.480 --> 1:01:37.400 And Bedwong says no, he's actually refusing to speak until 1:01:37.440 --> 1:01:40.520 he knows that you're okay. So he's a softie. And 1:01:40.600 --> 1:01:42.680 then she gets up and asks for a ride. And 1:01:42.800 --> 1:01:44.439 so now they get like, I wonder if they stop 1:01:44.560 --> 1:01:47.640 to get coffees and now and why is everyone driving? 1:01:48.000 --> 1:01:48.200 Where? 1:01:48.600 --> 1:01:50.840 But everyone's driving? But I bet everyone? 1:01:51.040 --> 1:01:53.920 Yeah, So like bed Wong like is coming in from 1:01:53.960 --> 1:01:56.200 the FBI and then renting a vehicle. 1:01:58.040 --> 1:02:00.200 I think they're giving him one. I don't I don't know. 1:02:00.800 --> 1:02:04.680 Listen, this mushroom guy, though he does believe in right 1:02:04.720 --> 1:02:06.560 and wrong. He's got a good sense of right and wrong. 1:02:06.760 --> 1:02:07.840 Oh yeah, gotta give him that. 1:02:08.160 --> 1:02:08.360 Yeah. 1:02:08.520 --> 1:02:11.000 And then so anyway, so now we're here where the 1:02:11.120 --> 1:02:13.240 ride has been given. We're back in cement room bars. 1:02:13.600 --> 1:02:17.000 He's preaching, he won't stop. He's talking about wombats, hippos, 1:02:17.120 --> 1:02:20.520 the importance of water. He also says, so sorry that 1:02:20.880 --> 1:02:23.480 the fun guy hurt, Like, that's not that's not his heart. 1:02:23.640 --> 1:02:25.480 He would never want to, like use fung guy to 1:02:25.600 --> 1:02:28.960 hurt people. Stabler and Benson just hear him, Babbel and Babel, 1:02:29.000 --> 1:02:31.360 and Stabler's like he's been going in circles for a while. 1:02:31.840 --> 1:02:34.000 Benson wants to bring it back to Lindsay and he 1:02:34.080 --> 1:02:36.480 talks about water. But he says he didn't kill her. 1:02:36.920 --> 1:02:39.400 And now Mika and George are what are hanging out 1:02:39.480 --> 1:02:41.720 there watching? And she asks, well, why didn't he get 1:02:41.800 --> 1:02:45.680 fucked up? And and it's obvious you're an idiot. He's 1:02:45.720 --> 1:02:48.520 built up a tolerance, you know, years of exposure. And 1:02:48.640 --> 1:02:50.920 she's like, but he sounds like a psychopath, and he 1:02:51.360 --> 1:02:54.320 goes sure, But he works at this fancy museum. He 1:02:54.400 --> 1:03:00.760 has published articles. He leads foraging trips. He's odd but sane. 1:03:01.560 --> 1:03:04.640 Dave Seaver one of our favorite guests. Michael Boatman, I'm 1:03:04.800 --> 1:03:07.520 obsessed with him. If you haven't listened to that episode. 1:03:08.400 --> 1:03:11.880 His sister called him after the museum called her so 1:03:12.520 --> 1:03:15.480 and then Meeka Vaughn tries to sell her sun drenched 1:03:15.520 --> 1:03:20.360 loft to him. But he's flirty, I mean, he wants 1:03:20.440 --> 1:03:22.800 to fuck, and she's sassy because he's like, when can 1:03:22.880 --> 1:03:26.200 we chat? And she goes arraignment. So they're arguing, like 1:03:26.280 --> 1:03:30.200 always classic, we want remand we want freedom, back and forth. 1:03:30.680 --> 1:03:33.640 Boatman goes from flirty to feisty and calls her new 1:03:34.360 --> 1:03:37.240 and Proache keeps shouting about the water what else is new? 1:03:37.320 --> 1:03:39.360 But Boatman's like, listen, this dude needs to tend to 1:03:39.400 --> 1:03:43.680 his mushrooms. Meeka Vaughn, amateur mistakes, says mushrooms aren't children. 1:03:44.040 --> 1:03:46.680 The judge goes, oh that's a misstep, girl. I love 1:03:46.800 --> 1:03:50.000 my roses. They've won prizes and I'd rather ditch my 1:03:50.120 --> 1:03:54.120 wife than my flowers. So he just has to surrender 1:03:54.240 --> 1:03:56.600 his passport and the bales set for two hundred and 1:03:56.640 --> 1:03:59.800 fifty thousand dollars. Who's paying that? Or do you think 1:03:59.800 --> 1:04:02.360 he's saved all his money or he's also a rich No, yeah, 1:04:02.400 --> 1:04:05.080 he's a professor. I don't know, not a lot of money, 1:04:05.120 --> 1:04:06.920 Like what is that's a lot? But he smiles, he's 1:04:06.920 --> 1:04:10.040 happy with this. Yeah, so I guess it's a doable 1:04:10.080 --> 1:04:12.000 amount for him. So then Stabler comes sick. 1:04:12.080 --> 1:04:14.320 What does he have to actually pay? Pays twenty five 1:04:14.360 --> 1:04:15.960 thousand that's what the bond would be. 1:04:16.080 --> 1:04:17.680 Yeah, I guess he could have that savings. 1:04:18.560 --> 1:04:21.960 Stabler comes to help her do the NYC press run 1:04:22.040 --> 1:04:24.440 because you know, this isn't Chicago, It's New York. And 1:04:24.520 --> 1:04:27.320 it's like you're acting like Chicago's like a fucking hicckville. 1:04:27.800 --> 1:04:30.400 It's the busiest airport in our country. What are you 1:04:30.480 --> 1:04:31.080 talking about? 1:04:31.400 --> 1:04:35.800 And meanwhile, a full Chicago PD, Chicago Fire, Chicago MED, 1:04:35.880 --> 1:04:38.040 they're all on the horizon, they're about they're like all 1:04:38.120 --> 1:04:39.040 coming out this year. 1:04:39.800 --> 1:04:42.640 Yeah, you might not know how the news runs. Yeah, 1:04:42.840 --> 1:04:45.200 but so anyways, she goes, I don't how to handle myself, 1:04:45.960 --> 1:04:48.600 so and she does. She basically is like, Hey, I'm 1:04:48.640 --> 1:04:50.760 not really gonna chat you guys, like we're outside in 1:04:50.760 --> 1:04:52.280 the court steps. She goes, but why don't you go 1:04:52.400 --> 1:04:55.440 talk to that guy mention water and so he's popping 1:04:55.520 --> 1:04:57.959 off and now the office is watching him talk about 1:04:58.000 --> 1:05:01.440 water on the TV screen and you know, good news though, 1:05:01.560 --> 1:05:03.760 the DNA of the mushrooms are a genetic match to 1:05:03.880 --> 1:05:06.480 his mushrooms, so they're picked from the same patch. So 1:05:06.680 --> 1:05:09.560 the weapons is his, everything's his. The lawyer, you know, 1:05:09.680 --> 1:05:12.120 the time whatever. But the lawyer says, we want to 1:05:12.120 --> 1:05:14.880 make a deal, so we got to start chatting. Emma 1:05:14.920 --> 1:05:18.520 and Rosemary, Granny they come on down with boxes and 1:05:18.640 --> 1:05:19.680 boxes of photos. 1:05:19.800 --> 1:05:22.360 Emma's miserable. The old lady is chipper. 1:05:22.440 --> 1:05:25.040 Emma looks into the glass or the professor's on the 1:05:25.120 --> 1:05:27.280 other side, and Granny says, don't stare. 1:05:27.520 --> 1:05:31.320 Okay, you gotta do it. Don't stare. It's rude. 1:05:32.400 --> 1:05:34.720 And then Emma goes, okay, and what killing my best friend? 1:05:34.840 --> 1:05:37.720 Was that a faux paw? And she grabs her and says, 1:05:37.840 --> 1:05:39.840 I know, it's all the rage to mote in public. 1:05:40.080 --> 1:05:42.240 See it's not as fun, but I can't just keep 1:05:42.320 --> 1:05:45.480 forcing you to do it, you know. So she's like, 1:05:45.600 --> 1:05:47.320 it's all the rage toimote in public, but in my 1:05:47.480 --> 1:05:50.400 day it wasn't done. And it's like, Grammy, your day 1:05:50.520 --> 1:05:53.840 is done. She says, well, I'm still alive and I 1:05:54.040 --> 1:05:57.120 never did drugs like you. It's like, yeah, you've said 1:05:57.160 --> 1:06:00.960 it a million times, like good for you probably owned slaves, 1:06:01.000 --> 1:06:03.960 how about that? So then she goes, as long as 1:06:04.000 --> 1:06:08.280 you wear my intaglia necklace, And then I. 1:06:08.280 --> 1:06:09.680 Thought you were going to explain what that is. 1:06:09.960 --> 1:06:13.440 Yeah, I am, I am an intaglia. I've looked it 1:06:13.560 --> 1:06:18.360 up before. It's like a carving technique where like the 1:06:18.520 --> 1:06:20.600 design is inside, so a lot of times it's like 1:06:21.040 --> 1:06:24.880 a side portrait silhouette of somebody or whatever, and. 1:06:26.360 --> 1:06:29.840 It's it's carved in and it creates a recessed. 1:06:29.440 --> 1:06:31.200 Image, is what I've looked up. 1:06:31.920 --> 1:06:32.200 Thank you. 1:06:33.200 --> 1:06:36.960 Yeah, but she goes, you know you will mind your 1:06:37.040 --> 1:06:39.360 manners as long as you wear my necklace. You're minding 1:06:39.440 --> 1:06:42.600 your manners. It's an heirloom. So then Benson goes, hey, lady, 1:06:43.120 --> 1:06:45.000 have you ever been to like an attics support group 1:06:45.080 --> 1:06:47.400 or anything? Maybe at Emma's rehab And she goes, ew 1:06:47.600 --> 1:06:51.000 not with those junkies. Gross, And then we so we 1:06:51.120 --> 1:06:54.000 hear Dave Crumholtz just screaming up a storm, and Grammy 1:06:54.080 --> 1:06:56.400 and Emma runoff, and Benson goes jeez, if I grew 1:06:56.480 --> 1:06:57.800 up with that, I would do drugs too. 1:06:58.440 --> 1:07:00.840 Then we hear a scream I want a livy out, 1:07:01.240 --> 1:07:05.280 don't we all? So Mika opens the door and lets 1:07:05.280 --> 1:07:05.480 her in. 1:07:06.280 --> 1:07:09.360 Boatman wants an insanity defense based on the mushroom fumes, 1:07:09.720 --> 1:07:12.320 but he says I'm not crazy, and he wants Benson 1:07:12.360 --> 1:07:14.800 to confirm that, and he wants to fire him. 1:07:14.880 --> 1:07:15.919 He screams, go away. 1:07:16.080 --> 1:07:18.680 Boatman walks off, spins around and has a pretty woman 1:07:18.800 --> 1:07:23.080 moment and Legit goes big mistake and leaves. So then 1:07:23.160 --> 1:07:26.720 he says, I'm gonna plead guilty. That's what he says, 1:07:27.120 --> 1:07:28.880 but he can't do that without a lawyer, and me 1:07:29.000 --> 1:07:30.640 goes like it's a police building. I'm sure we could 1:07:30.680 --> 1:07:31.360 find some lawyer. 1:07:31.760 --> 1:07:33.000 But he sucks. So we're in court. 1:07:33.080 --> 1:07:34.840 This guy's stuttering, he doesn't know what's going on, he 1:07:34.920 --> 1:07:38.200 doesn't know the charges, but it doesn't matter. Dave crumbolds 1:07:38.240 --> 1:07:40.320 he wants to plead guilty. He goes, I did it 1:07:40.720 --> 1:07:43.120 I wanted or dead, But the judge needs specifics, like 1:07:43.200 --> 1:07:45.320 you have to do a true allocution, like what types? 1:07:45.400 --> 1:07:45.880 What's going on? 1:07:46.240 --> 1:07:49.440 How'd you do it? And he says three types of mushrooms. 1:07:49.600 --> 1:07:53.400 Stabler gets his thinking face on. He has a little notebook. 1:07:53.920 --> 1:07:56.920 It's actually four mushrooms. It's actually four, not three. A 1:07:57.000 --> 1:07:59.000 man like this was such a professional and a professor 1:07:59.040 --> 1:08:00.560 at mushrooms would not fuck this up. 1:08:01.080 --> 1:08:02.040 A fool could suck. 1:08:01.920 --> 1:08:02.840 It up, not this guy. 1:08:03.240 --> 1:08:05.600 So then he tries to get Von to stop the judge, 1:08:05.680 --> 1:08:08.440 just stop the judge. He has it's court side seats. 1:08:08.480 --> 1:08:09.560 It's a Nicks home opener. 1:08:10.320 --> 1:08:13.440 This guy has a lot of hobbies court side basketball 1:08:13.600 --> 1:08:16.080 roses like he just does not want to see his 1:08:16.200 --> 1:08:18.960 wife after work, and he's about to speed up you know, 1:08:19.040 --> 1:08:21.519 the rules of Justice. Because oh my god, I was 1:08:21.560 --> 1:08:26.040 out with friends and obviously talking about crime and Jeriada YadA, 1:08:26.800 --> 1:08:30.280 and and I said something and they thought it was 1:08:30.320 --> 1:08:32.360 a catchphrase. They're like, oh, is that part of the podcast. 1:08:32.439 --> 1:08:34.240 I go, no, truly, I just said it, but maybe 1:08:34.280 --> 1:08:39.040 it should be. But I said, journey to Justice. I 1:08:39.120 --> 1:08:41.160 thought it was like a catchphrase. I had I go, nope, 1:08:41.160 --> 1:08:44.719 here for my sl justice. So talking about always sounds 1:08:44.760 --> 1:08:47.760 like a Lifetime movie about like somebody who like has 1:08:47.840 --> 1:08:50.360 to keep going getting the system to work for them. 1:08:50.600 --> 1:08:53.960 Well, because I knew about this one crime that like, 1:08:54.280 --> 1:08:56.320 and I was talking about it and then I said 1:08:56.360 --> 1:08:58.360 the sentence of the guy, and they go, how long? 1:08:58.520 --> 1:09:00.320 And I said, I don't know how long the journey 1:09:00.360 --> 1:09:05.880 to justice was. So but I've been trying to sneak 1:09:05.920 --> 1:09:08.639 it into conversations, but they thought I was like doing 1:09:08.720 --> 1:09:13.679 bits on them and I was like, no, so whatever, 1:09:13.880 --> 1:09:17.719 so da da da da the musher so he okay. 1:09:17.800 --> 1:09:21.400 So basically, fucking Stabler's like, listen, this isn't justice, Like 1:09:21.439 --> 1:09:24.400 who cares about basketball? Like we need to figure this out, 1:09:24.920 --> 1:09:28.160 but no one's listening to him. So now he pretends 1:09:28.240 --> 1:09:31.040 to have a mushroom attack and acts crazy, makes the 1:09:31.080 --> 1:09:31.960 fool of himself. 1:09:32.080 --> 1:09:35.040 He's like, we gotta, we gotta order the pizza. He 1:09:35.160 --> 1:09:39.000 starts stripping in the galley. We're like, take it off, maloney. 1:09:40.040 --> 1:09:42.320 And then the ambulance gets called for him and he's 1:09:42.320 --> 1:09:45.479 signing himself out and Mika's a bit. She's like, what's 1:09:45.520 --> 1:09:47.479 going on here? And he's like, I know the truth. 1:09:47.560 --> 1:09:49.760 You know the truth. This motherfucker's lying. She goes, who cares? 1:09:50.360 --> 1:09:52.599 And he goes, he's innocent. Well, you don't care about 1:09:52.640 --> 1:09:55.320 any of this, but she doesn't want to look like 1:09:55.400 --> 1:09:57.439 a flake. This is her first you know, go in 1:09:57.720 --> 1:09:59.880 in New York and he's like, well, I need more 1:10:00.000 --> 1:10:02.880 time to figure this out, and so she goes, well, 1:10:02.880 --> 1:10:04.880 you have till tomorrow morning to find the evidence to 1:10:05.000 --> 1:10:07.000 back up whatever you're saying. So it's an all night 1:10:07.080 --> 1:10:09.960 or time. Everyone's at the precinct looking at pics and 1:10:10.080 --> 1:10:13.680 evidence to figure this out. At seven fifty one, no mushrooms. 1:10:13.720 --> 1:10:16.320 At eight oh two, mushrooms. But the thing is pro 1:10:16.520 --> 1:10:18.920 check according to all the photos, is nowhere near the plate, 1:10:19.120 --> 1:10:21.320 nowhere near lindsay like, he could not have done this. 1:10:22.000 --> 1:10:24.720 So Mika makes a call and we don't know what 1:10:24.840 --> 1:10:26.920 it is. But she leaves and she's like, I need sleep, 1:10:27.040 --> 1:10:29.439 and she gives them all attitude. This is actually psychotic. 1:10:29.880 --> 1:10:32.040 She turns around and she goes, hey, I don't think 1:10:32.080 --> 1:10:35.040 you understand how this works. You guys are the pots 1:10:35.080 --> 1:10:36.960 and pans. I'm the chef. 1:10:38.320 --> 1:10:43.920 Okay, bitch, No, no, none of our past like Das 1:10:43.920 --> 1:10:45.400 would have ever said anything like that. 1:10:47.640 --> 1:10:48.200 I don't think so. 1:10:48.360 --> 1:10:53.240 A little woman named Sonia Paxton, well, Sonya was a 1:10:53.320 --> 1:10:55.960 rude bitch, but she knew she needed these fucking detectives. 1:10:56.040 --> 1:10:58.320 You know you're crazy. She knew she needed them. I 1:10:58.360 --> 1:11:00.320 don't think she would have said, I'm the sh chef, 1:11:00.400 --> 1:11:03.360 you're the pots and fans. It's so rude, speaking of 1:11:03.479 --> 1:11:07.640 beauty and the beast. I mean it's written, it's like 1:11:08.040 --> 1:11:13.200 you're missus Potts. I'm bell like it's wild yeah yeah, 1:11:13.400 --> 1:11:16.720 and to them, I mean the ninety seven percent right, 1:11:17.120 --> 1:11:19.080 it's connection, right, come on. 1:11:19.600 --> 1:11:22.400 So Stabler can't even believe she said it. But we're 1:11:22.439 --> 1:11:25.240 back at court. Nobody's seen the defense attorney. Uh oh, 1:11:25.360 --> 1:11:28.120 he went on vacation, so the judge is gonna put 1:11:28.160 --> 1:11:30.840 him in contempt. And then Stabler goes, you bitch, you 1:11:30.880 --> 1:11:33.080 gave him a bad lawyer on purpose. And she goes, 1:11:33.200 --> 1:11:35.560 or is he the best lawyer? She goes, is it 1:11:35.720 --> 1:11:39.320 no lawyer here? The best lawyer? It gives us days, 1:11:39.600 --> 1:11:43.360 not hours. So she actually does like those statement from 1:11:43.360 --> 1:11:46.320 the night before makes no sense. She's playing dirty and 1:11:46.400 --> 1:11:49.559 Staylor really likes it. But she sent him to the loft, 1:11:49.760 --> 1:11:53.160 and Stabler this time says, sun drenched. I can't so 1:11:53.360 --> 1:11:56.559 Kragan's on the steps and not a lot of craigan 1:11:56.600 --> 1:11:58.200 this up. But I think you're right. He had a 1:11:58.240 --> 1:12:01.960 delayed flight and he says, hi, to Mika. So that's 1:12:02.000 --> 1:12:04.679 where she gets to meet him, and Craigan goes, oh, yeah, babe, 1:12:04.800 --> 1:12:07.840 nice knowing you. Your boss called pack your bags. You're 1:12:07.880 --> 1:12:11.439 going back to Chicago. Apparently you sent a defense attorney 1:12:11.479 --> 1:12:14.599 on vacation. And yeah, so she did some dirty tricks. 1:12:14.640 --> 1:12:17.840 Oh so she's out and she's fired, and now she 1:12:17.920 --> 1:12:19.559 has to take the loft off the market. 1:12:20.120 --> 1:12:20.679 They have a floir. 1:12:20.800 --> 1:12:23.719 I just it's so embarrassing. Okay, they have a flirty goodbye. 1:12:23.840 --> 1:12:25.600 She skips off. It doesn't seem like I think she 1:12:25.680 --> 1:12:28.439 comes from money. So then Benson and Sadlor goes straight 1:12:28.520 --> 1:12:30.920 to Crumholtz and say why did you agree to crime 1:12:30.960 --> 1:12:33.240 you didn't commit? And he smiles and goes for the cause, 1:12:33.920 --> 1:12:36.479 I got to be on TV. So they show all 1:12:36.520 --> 1:12:38.640 these photos of people at the party to be like, well, 1:12:38.680 --> 1:12:42.080 who who here had access to your mushrooms? And then 1:12:42.120 --> 1:12:44.600 when it's a photo of Emma, he starts stuttering and 1:12:44.680 --> 1:12:47.479 they all notice, so they leave. But then they see 1:12:47.560 --> 1:12:50.240 him rush off, and so they follow him and they 1:12:50.280 --> 1:12:52.280 follow him right to Emma's house where she goes a 1:12:52.360 --> 1:12:55.360 vinny get out of here, and they see them and 1:12:55.400 --> 1:12:57.200 they're they're like, oh, my god, both of you lied. 1:12:57.280 --> 1:12:59.240 And then Granny comes down and goes, you know this man, 1:13:00.080 --> 1:13:02.720 and so then they arrest both of them, of course accomplices, 1:13:02.760 --> 1:13:05.599 and Grammy's like, you murdered her, and they take them 1:13:05.640 --> 1:13:08.120 away and he screams, no, it was all me. 1:13:08.400 --> 1:13:08.920 I did it. 1:13:09.080 --> 1:13:11.400 So now we're in cement room bars, we're back. Baby 1:13:11.840 --> 1:13:14.960 Benson's in the room with him. They talk mushroom science 1:13:15.000 --> 1:13:17.519 and he's messing up and they know he didn't do it, 1:13:17.720 --> 1:13:20.599 so it's they just have to figure something out to get, 1:13:20.960 --> 1:13:23.720 you know, to justice. So then Emma stole them from 1:13:23.760 --> 1:13:26.680 the lab and she's with Stabler saying she never went 1:13:26.760 --> 1:13:29.000 to his lab, but they already searched her room and 1:13:29.040 --> 1:13:31.000 found a bag of mushrooms that were like the same 1:13:31.000 --> 1:13:32.880 ones that killed Lindsay, like to not get rid of 1:13:32.880 --> 1:13:33.840 the evidence from your room. 1:13:33.920 --> 1:13:35.439 I just the Hubris. 1:13:35.840 --> 1:13:40.599 He's not gonna yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah, No it's hers, Yeah, 1:13:40.600 --> 1:13:41.160 I know it's hers. 1:13:41.200 --> 1:13:41.759 She's stupid. 1:13:41.880 --> 1:13:43.400 Yeah, I was gonna say, he's not going to get 1:13:43.439 --> 1:13:46.639 rid of his little precious children. But she's dumb. Yeah, 1:13:46.720 --> 1:13:49.920 she's dumb. So how who're on the Grammy side? 1:13:49.960 --> 1:13:53.000 Okay, so then how did they meet, and it's a 1:13:53.080 --> 1:13:55.040 back and forth, like you know when they go back 1:13:55.080 --> 1:13:57.920 and forth between the rooms. So so basically, Emma started 1:13:57.920 --> 1:14:00.680 going to water rights meetings and we know Professor was 1:14:00.720 --> 1:14:03.439 there and he just felt such a fire in her 1:14:03.479 --> 1:14:08.840 eyes for the environment. Emma spilled the beans to the 1:14:08.920 --> 1:14:13.080 professor about how her grandma and Lindsay were making deals 1:14:13.280 --> 1:14:16.640 in the Catskills, that the woman was buying up all 1:14:16.720 --> 1:14:19.960 this upstate land and then selling the water rights to 1:14:20.080 --> 1:14:23.880 Lindsay and Cola now, and she begged her grandmother not 1:14:24.080 --> 1:14:26.560 to sell this to Lindsay. But you know, she's just 1:14:26.640 --> 1:14:30.960 an amazing woman and Emma's just a screw up. And 1:14:31.160 --> 1:14:34.640 it's like, well they both went to rehab. Yeah, like 1:14:34.760 --> 1:14:36.240 why is one amazing and one not? 1:14:36.439 --> 1:14:39.960 They both went to rehab, Well, only one has a 1:14:40.040 --> 1:14:43.479 gift for corporate giving, you know that's the problem. 1:14:43.880 --> 1:14:46.400 And it cuts to him telling Benson she's not a 1:14:46.479 --> 1:14:49.599 screw up. She's a subtle person in a loud world. 1:14:50.439 --> 1:14:53.960 I like beautiful, it's beautiful. He really likes her. Benson 1:14:54.040 --> 1:14:56.120 realizes he's in love with her and that's why he 1:14:56.240 --> 1:14:59.640 pled guilty. And he says, like, no, the soapbox, I 1:14:59.720 --> 1:15:02.240 care but yeah, we're in love. And then it hops 1:15:02.240 --> 1:15:04.920 over to Emma and she's like love and my family 1:15:05.000 --> 1:15:07.000 loves about being at the right event and a right 1:15:07.120 --> 1:15:10.519 dress and gossiping. But she never got that, but Lindsay did, 1:15:10.760 --> 1:15:13.760 and you know that it was Grandma's dream girl, and 1:15:13.920 --> 1:15:16.320 so you killed her and she denies killing her, and 1:15:16.439 --> 1:15:18.960 then he really twists the knife and goes, I bet 1:15:19.000 --> 1:15:21.360 if Lindsay was here, Grandma would have shown up and 1:15:21.479 --> 1:15:24.719 seen if she was okay, huh, And Emma knows it's true, 1:15:24.760 --> 1:15:27.000 so she tears up and he goes, let's see. So 1:15:27.080 --> 1:15:29.799 he opens the door, all theatrical walks around the priestinct 1:15:29.840 --> 1:15:32.840 comes back and goes, yeah, no Grandma here. She really 1:15:32.920 --> 1:15:35.840 doesn't care about you, does she? And Emma goes she 1:15:36.080 --> 1:15:38.600 loves me, and Sabah goes, like you love Vinnie and 1:15:38.720 --> 1:15:41.160 Stabler calls him odd and she says he's not odd, 1:15:41.520 --> 1:15:44.200 he's just his own person. I think that's the definition 1:15:44.280 --> 1:15:47.519 of odd. So then Stabler replies, like, you just used 1:15:47.600 --> 1:15:50.920 him for mushrooms, you didn't actually like him. And then 1:15:51.040 --> 1:15:55.040 we realized that Vinnie is behind the spyglass. Vinnie and 1:15:55.160 --> 1:15:57.880 Benson are watching all of this and she walks up 1:15:57.920 --> 1:16:01.479 to the mirror and goes, Vinnie, I'm sorry, and Stabler's like, bitch, 1:16:01.520 --> 1:16:04.439 you're sorry. You saw him get arrested and you said nothing. 1:16:04.600 --> 1:16:07.320 And she says, Vinnie, I love you, and Saba goes, yeah, 1:16:07.400 --> 1:16:09.320 you mean it so much you were gonna let him 1:16:09.320 --> 1:16:12.160 do your prison time for you. She starts getting short 1:16:12.200 --> 1:16:14.599 of breath. She's stressed out, and she keeps repeating I can't, 1:16:14.680 --> 1:16:17.040 I can't. And he goes, what confessed to murdering the 1:16:17.160 --> 1:16:19.600 mother of a nine year old? And you know he 1:16:19.720 --> 1:16:22.320 wants to get in there, and Benson goes, not a chance, 1:16:22.479 --> 1:16:25.960 but also have some self respect, and so they take 1:16:26.000 --> 1:16:28.000 the spy feature off the glass and they make them 1:16:28.040 --> 1:16:29.679 look at each other through the window. 1:16:29.960 --> 1:16:32.600 Very all stars too. Fifi O'Hara, Alyssa, I. 1:16:32.680 --> 1:16:36.759 Bought a comea and she apologizes for not saying anything, 1:16:36.840 --> 1:16:38.720 and he goes, no, I know, I know, and he's 1:16:38.800 --> 1:16:42.240 crying too, and finally she snaps and goes, I killed 1:16:42.280 --> 1:16:45.040 that two faced bitch. She's like, you think that bitch 1:16:45.120 --> 1:16:47.759 cared about me. She used me to get to my grandma, 1:16:48.120 --> 1:16:51.679 and as soon as that bitch died, I'm garbage. Granny 1:16:51.760 --> 1:16:54.080 never cared about me. She never cared about me. My 1:16:54.160 --> 1:16:56.960 grandma's never said one fucking nice word to me, no 1:16:57.120 --> 1:16:59.960 ounce of love. And she's like, there never was any love. 1:17:00.160 --> 1:17:03.000 And then she walks back and he and he's like, oh, 1:17:03.080 --> 1:17:06.200 it wasn't about water, it was about revenge. So like 1:17:06.320 --> 1:17:08.800 he thought she was just passionate about water too, and 1:17:08.960 --> 1:17:11.559 she says, the only water you're going to see is tears. 1:17:11.760 --> 1:17:13.679 That's the stupidest thing Benson's ever said. 1:17:14.200 --> 1:17:16.320 And then he runs off and tries to get in 1:17:16.479 --> 1:17:19.160 and opens the door, tries to push back Stabler, and 1:17:19.240 --> 1:17:22.360 while Stabler and Benson are holding him back, Busy, she 1:17:22.520 --> 1:17:25.240 grabs the bag of mushrooms and starts eating them. And 1:17:25.400 --> 1:17:27.720 she's being dipped by Stabler now, and he's trying to 1:17:27.760 --> 1:17:29.320 get them out of her mouth like she's a golden 1:17:29.400 --> 1:17:33.599 retriever and like ripping these mushrooms out of her mouth 1:17:33.720 --> 1:17:36.360 and screaming at her, and she's like, tell Grammy, her 1:17:36.479 --> 1:17:40.400 problem child is dead. And then you know, she's gasping, 1:17:40.520 --> 1:17:44.519 holding onto Stabler. Crumb holds is watching an agony. He's like, Oh, 1:17:44.560 --> 1:17:47.120 I hope this bitch lives, you know, And then Benson 1:17:47.120 --> 1:17:49.080 and Stabler are now standing over her. 1:17:49.280 --> 1:17:49.920 She is alive. 1:17:50.120 --> 1:17:52.280 She wakes up in the hospital and they go, well, 1:17:52.320 --> 1:17:55.080 look who's here. And Grammy walks into the doorway and 1:17:55.160 --> 1:17:57.439 she goes, oh my god, you came. And Emma's like 1:17:57.640 --> 1:18:01.479 so happy even though she was in a prison. The 1:18:01.560 --> 1:18:04.320 grandma stands over and goes, of course I came. And 1:18:04.400 --> 1:18:06.640 then Emma puts her hand on the grandma and to 1:18:06.760 --> 1:18:09.360 try to explain herself, and the grandma. 1:18:09.000 --> 1:18:12.720 Says, you will take your hands off of me. 1:18:14.000 --> 1:18:16.240 And Emma's like taken aback by that, and she said 1:18:16.680 --> 1:18:19.560 and then she goes, you are not my grandchild. I 1:18:19.720 --> 1:18:22.559 came only for my necklace, and then takes it off 1:18:22.640 --> 1:18:25.800 her neck. Benson goes, you're taking that. She could sell 1:18:25.880 --> 1:18:28.200 that to pay for a defense attorney, and Emma goes, 1:18:28.280 --> 1:18:31.799 I would never do that, and then Grammy is like sure, 1:18:32.560 --> 1:18:35.320 like how you would never steal my Mercedes or lose 1:18:35.360 --> 1:18:39.639 your virginity at fifteen or stuff that garbage up your nose? 1:18:39.920 --> 1:18:41.639 Do you want me to do this whole one because 1:18:41.640 --> 1:18:43.720 I kind of love it, hey, okay, And then the 1:18:43.800 --> 1:18:48.120 grandma goes like, you would never steal my Mercedes or 1:18:48.160 --> 1:18:52.320 lose your virginity at fifteen or stuff that garbage up 1:18:52.360 --> 1:18:54.080 your nose, Like I. 1:18:54.200 --> 1:18:57.560 Loved doing this lipstick so much because she's so wild. 1:18:57.439 --> 1:19:01.960 She's so evil, she's so mean. I wish Emma had 1:19:02.040 --> 1:19:05.479 some Ah, poor Emma, but she's crying. She says I'm sorry, 1:19:06.080 --> 1:19:08.240 and Granny doesn't even look at her and turns around, 1:19:08.400 --> 1:19:13.680 and the detectives are like like they are confused by 1:19:13.920 --> 1:19:17.280 the cruelty. And then she goes, I'm giving this necklace 1:19:17.320 --> 1:19:21.320 to Lindsay's daughter. You will inherit nothing And Emma's like, 1:19:21.439 --> 1:19:24.360 you think I care about money, Like I just wanted 1:19:24.439 --> 1:19:24.880 a mom. 1:19:25.280 --> 1:19:30.720 And then she says, yes, well she died. It's like 1:19:31.200 --> 1:19:34.479 my favorite line of the entire series. 1:19:35.320 --> 1:19:36.360 I just wanted a mom. 1:19:36.880 --> 1:19:40.800 Yes well she died. And it's like, isn't that your daughter? 1:19:41.960 --> 1:19:46.720 Like yeah, she's so heartless. It's fucking you know. 1:19:46.960 --> 1:19:50.560 I love this entire genre of old rich ladies in 1:19:50.760 --> 1:19:54.800 SVU with Angela Lansberry. This woman, you know, we've got 1:19:54.960 --> 1:19:58.080 so many Michael, the woman that we interviewed from Dahmer, 1:19:58.560 --> 1:20:02.439 like all these people and this woman really smashes it. 1:20:03.640 --> 1:20:05.080 Well, yeah she does. 1:20:05.200 --> 1:20:05.400 You know. 1:20:06.000 --> 1:20:10.120 She wants off, and Vinnie is there with flowers and 1:20:10.240 --> 1:20:13.360 the detectives are shocked to see him, but he's there 1:20:13.439 --> 1:20:15.720 for Emma and they're like, she was gonna go to 1:20:15.920 --> 1:20:20.120 jail for you, and then he goes Nobody's perfect, which 1:20:20.479 --> 1:20:22.479 has to be a sun like at hot reference, Like 1:20:22.640 --> 1:20:25.639 it has to because there was that pretty woman reference 1:20:25.680 --> 1:20:28.720 from up top, Like this is just so up to 1:20:28.760 --> 1:20:30.240 the top, this is the best. 1:20:31.240 --> 1:20:33.400 Well, yeah, with Neil Bear too, it feels like it 1:20:33.439 --> 1:20:35.000 would be a it's not like it hot too. 1:20:35.280 --> 1:20:37.400 And then the detectives are dumbfounded again. 1:20:37.439 --> 1:20:40.760 They're like okay, like they've seen everything twisted, everything dark, 1:20:40.800 --> 1:20:44.760 and they're like eyes bugged out, like okay, I guess 1:20:44.800 --> 1:20:48.519 her work here is done, and they're you know, they're 1:20:48.600 --> 1:20:51.000 left flirting. I'm sure he'll visit her in prison, and 1:20:51.240 --> 1:20:52.680 that's dick Wolf baby, and. 1:20:52.720 --> 1:20:55.880 Then Emma becomes Badison in prison and she fucking beats 1:20:55.920 --> 1:20:56.719 the shit out of people. 1:20:57.400 --> 1:20:59.519 Well, because because this was so Neil Bear and so 1:20:59.640 --> 1:21:01.599 theatric I was like who wrote it? And the writers 1:21:01.640 --> 1:21:03.120 it says dick Wolf and Speedweed. 1:21:03.560 --> 1:21:05.679 Ah, they let Speedweed do an episode. 1:21:05.800 --> 1:21:07.920 Yes, those are the two that are credited, which is 1:21:08.000 --> 1:21:08.720 crazy to me. 1:21:09.960 --> 1:21:13.839 Wow, it makes sense to me that someone named Speedweed 1:21:13.880 --> 1:21:16.120 wrote this episode because it's so fucking why it's so 1:21:16.360 --> 1:21:19.120 much more unhinged than like other episodes. You know. Yeah, 1:21:19.560 --> 1:21:22.519 so whereas other writers might have been like, this goes 1:21:22.600 --> 1:21:24.000 kind of against the tone of the show, this gets 1:21:24.040 --> 1:21:26.800 a little bit crazy, Speedweed's like, let's try this, you know, 1:21:27.080 --> 1:21:30.560 like they were letting Speedweed. Dick Wolf was taking Speedweed. 1:21:30.240 --> 1:21:31.640 Under his wing there, I think a little bit. 1:21:39.360 --> 1:21:41.400 I didn't know if this episode was based on anything real, 1:21:41.760 --> 1:21:45.080 and I'm still not convinced, but I've got a couple 1:21:45.400 --> 1:21:49.040 of stories that I know it definitely borrowed from. Here's 1:21:49.080 --> 1:21:52.639 what's crazy. Okay, So Sassoon is based on a couple 1:21:52.720 --> 1:21:54.960 of things. The guy that was, you know, the red herring, 1:21:55.080 --> 1:21:57.479 that was the guy snipping the hair in the park. 1:21:57.520 --> 1:21:57.800 Okay. 1:21:58.320 --> 1:22:02.080 So the nineteen eighty six case of Jack the Snipper 1:22:02.760 --> 1:22:05.840 was in Los Angeles in nineteen eighty six. Starting in February, 1:22:06.600 --> 1:22:09.880 a perpetrator that the LAPD called Jack the Snipper would 1:22:09.920 --> 1:22:12.800 ambush women in Southeast LA and snip off locks of 1:22:12.840 --> 1:22:15.519 their hair. As of July of nineteen eighty six, there 1:22:15.560 --> 1:22:18.680 had been eight attacks. The attacker struck in the neighborhoods 1:22:18.720 --> 1:22:22.439 of Norwalk, Downy, Bellflower, Commerce and Maywood. All of the 1:22:22.560 --> 1:22:26.719 victims were female. The majority were Latina or Asian with long, 1:22:26.960 --> 1:22:30.320 dark hair like long, long long. Three of the victims 1:22:30.360 --> 1:22:32.920 were miners, including a nine year old girl, which is 1:22:33.520 --> 1:22:36.880 super terrifying and creepy. Many were waiting for the bus 1:22:37.040 --> 1:22:39.240 or walking to work, and most of them say they 1:22:39.320 --> 1:22:42.040 remember seeing the guy a few days before being attacked. 1:22:42.400 --> 1:22:45.280 One victim told the La Times, I walked by and 1:22:45.400 --> 1:22:48.080 then he passed by very close. He turned around right away. 1:22:48.240 --> 1:22:50.840 I saw the blade and scissors. I began to scream. 1:22:51.120 --> 1:22:52.720 He told me to shut up and said, if you 1:22:52.800 --> 1:22:55.360 call the police, I'm going to follow you. End quote 1:22:55.840 --> 1:22:58.920 Detective Steve Davis, who was with the Norwalk Sheriff's Department. 1:23:00.000 --> 1:23:02.840 Walk is like a neighborhood over by lax Like. I 1:23:02.920 --> 1:23:04.960 didn't know they had like their own sheriff's department, but 1:23:05.320 --> 1:23:09.240 whatever the eighties, he told La Times. It's hard to 1:23:09.280 --> 1:23:11.720 say what his motivation is. The consensus is he has 1:23:11.800 --> 1:23:14.679 a hair fetish. He was probably getting a sexual thrill 1:23:14.720 --> 1:23:15.240 from doing this. 1:23:15.600 --> 1:23:18.519 This is a sicko. He's like a time bomb waiting 1:23:18.600 --> 1:23:20.280 to go off. End of quote. 1:23:20.680 --> 1:23:22.720 They also said they thought he might be selling the hair, 1:23:22.800 --> 1:23:25.000 but then, of course hair experts are like, you know, 1:23:25.080 --> 1:23:27.639 people are not buying random swatches of hair from people 1:23:27.720 --> 1:23:30.559 off the street, like you're buying professional You're. 1:23:30.479 --> 1:23:31.519 Buying real human hair. 1:23:31.560 --> 1:23:34.240 You're buying it from usually from overseas, and you're buying 1:23:34.360 --> 1:23:36.280 enough to like make full wigs, not just like one 1:23:36.400 --> 1:23:39.160 snip that some guy grabbed in like a park. So 1:23:39.240 --> 1:23:41.400 they were looking for a guy, white male, about thirty 1:23:41.520 --> 1:23:43.960 years old, between one hundred and seventeen hundred and eighty pounds, 1:23:44.200 --> 1:23:47.599 light brown, wavy hair, dresses in blue shirts, pants, work boots, 1:23:48.040 --> 1:23:50.479 and they described his vehicle as a black mini truck 1:23:50.520 --> 1:23:52.080 with orange and yellow pinstripes. 1:23:52.240 --> 1:23:55.040 But as far as I could tell, they never found 1:23:55.160 --> 1:23:55.599 this sky. 1:23:57.000 --> 1:23:59.920 I don't think something was in the air in nineteen eighties, 1:24:00.320 --> 1:24:02.439 because I found another article about a guy doing this 1:24:02.600 --> 1:24:06.800 same thing in Charlottesville, Virginia in November of that same year. 1:24:07.360 --> 1:24:09.680 So this is like, you know, they're still looking for 1:24:09.800 --> 1:24:12.439 this guy as of June and July. In November, some 1:24:12.560 --> 1:24:15.640 guy starts doing this Jack the snippershit at UVA and 1:24:15.720 --> 1:24:18.320 he's described as a well dressed young man who might 1:24:18.360 --> 1:24:20.560 have even been a student at UVA who cut the 1:24:20.600 --> 1:24:23.120 hair of six women who were studying at the UVA Library. 1:24:23.479 --> 1:24:26.160 They increased security, but I couldn't find if they ever 1:24:26.200 --> 1:24:29.960 found this guy. Then what's wild is there's another guy 1:24:30.080 --> 1:24:33.040 doing it in LA in two thousand and one, and 1:24:33.280 --> 1:24:35.080 this guy is called the hair Bandit. 1:24:35.479 --> 1:24:36.759 But is this a fetish? 1:24:37.120 --> 1:24:38.200 Is this? Like? What is it? 1:24:38.880 --> 1:24:39.040 Yeah? 1:24:39.080 --> 1:24:42.880 But what's wild is this guy I'm gonna talk about 1:24:43.040 --> 1:24:47.240 gets arrested in Norwalk, which is the same area of LA. 1:24:47.320 --> 1:24:49.479 So I'm like, is this the guy from nineteen eighty six? 1:24:49.640 --> 1:24:50.200 Like they don't. 1:24:50.680 --> 1:24:53.680 They call this guy the hair Bandit, different name, and 1:24:53.840 --> 1:24:56.519 they get him for nine attacks that he does between 1:24:56.560 --> 1:24:59.400 December fourth and December thirty first, two thousand and one. 1:25:00.400 --> 1:25:03.720 He was forty eight when they got him, so he 1:25:03.800 --> 1:25:06.800 could have easily been in his late twenties doing this. 1:25:07.640 --> 1:25:09.439 They were looking for a guy around thirty, so it 1:25:09.520 --> 1:25:12.120 really could be the same fucking guy from eighty six. 1:25:12.760 --> 1:25:15.160 They say that in any of the stuff that I found, 1:25:15.680 --> 1:25:17.720 and they're calling him a different name. They're not like, Wow, 1:25:17.800 --> 1:25:19.720 we found the old Jack the Snipper. They're calling this 1:25:19.800 --> 1:25:22.559 guy the hair bandon and he's done these attacks are 1:25:22.640 --> 1:25:25.679 much closer together. This is like nine attacks in less 1:25:25.680 --> 1:25:27.800 than four weeks, just in the month of December two 1:25:27.840 --> 1:25:30.200 thousand and one. And he would cut women's hairs with 1:25:30.640 --> 1:25:33.320 with hair with scissors or knives while they stood or 1:25:33.360 --> 1:25:35.880 walked in public. Some of the victims actually got neck 1:25:35.920 --> 1:25:38.160 injuries from how hard he like snatched their hair back 1:25:38.240 --> 1:25:38.960 during the attacks. 1:25:39.360 --> 1:25:40.200 And they found the guy. 1:25:40.280 --> 1:25:42.439 His name is Michael Howard, a forty eight year old 1:25:42.479 --> 1:25:45.559 bike shop owner, and he was arrested on January first, 1:25:45.640 --> 1:25:49.360 two thousand and two, Happy New Year, after the day 1:25:49.400 --> 1:25:52.840 after his last attack. And I don't know if they 1:25:53.560 --> 1:25:57.759 the police didn't actually find him. His brother, a probation officer, 1:25:58.560 --> 1:26:01.320 heard about this the hair bandit and immediately called the 1:26:01.360 --> 1:26:03.040 police and was like, I think this is my brother 1:26:03.439 --> 1:26:05.440 who had been plagued with drug problems. 1:26:05.640 --> 1:26:07.639 And the brother just was like I knew it was him. 1:26:07.680 --> 1:26:09.120 It was hard, but I like turned him in. 1:26:09.840 --> 1:26:12.840 So Howard was arrested in Norwalk, which I think is 1:26:12.880 --> 1:26:15.160 wild because it's same place as the eighty six guy. 1:26:15.439 --> 1:26:18.880 He was charged with ten felony counts, nine robberies which 1:26:18.920 --> 1:26:21.360 is the hair and one lude act against a minor 1:26:21.439 --> 1:26:23.360 because one of his victims was a twelve year old girl, 1:26:23.560 --> 1:26:26.040 so it's like he's also going for kind of like 1:26:26.520 --> 1:26:28.720 you know, nine, ten, eleven, twelve year old girls, he's 1:26:28.880 --> 1:26:32.479 also taking from women. I feel like it's the same dude. 1:26:32.920 --> 1:26:35.200 This guy tried to make a deal, Like they went 1:26:35.240 --> 1:26:37.000 back and forth. He finally took a deal for eight 1:26:37.080 --> 1:26:40.639 years in prison. So yeah, the hair bandit got eight years, 1:26:40.680 --> 1:26:42.640 and he's gonna get more of the time than did 1:26:42.720 --> 1:26:45.639 he Yeah, exactly. And I can't imagine prison was kind 1:26:45.680 --> 1:26:47.679 to a guy who's like in there for like hair cutting. 1:26:47.760 --> 1:26:50.320 I'm sure that people were like, oh, you're you're like, 1:26:50.520 --> 1:26:51.400 we're gonna hurt you. 1:26:51.479 --> 1:26:54.759 Now, like a violent crime. You know, like it is fucked. 1:26:54.800 --> 1:26:56.600 You can't just be cutting people's hair. But then what 1:26:56.680 --> 1:26:57.240 do you run off? 1:26:57.360 --> 1:27:00.839 Like yeah, but like it doesn't I mean it's the jerking, 1:27:00.960 --> 1:27:03.719 Like it doesn't cause like physical pain, I mean mentally, 1:27:03.920 --> 1:27:06.519 like obviously that's traumatic to have to have your haircut, 1:27:07.120 --> 1:27:10.240 but it's wild, Like, but you're right, he's probably getting 1:27:10.280 --> 1:27:13.200 more time than like several rapists we've covered on this show, 1:27:13.320 --> 1:27:18.360 like full on like predators. But the next case that 1:27:19.120 --> 1:27:23.160 we saw that I saw was You're smiling. She's smiling 1:27:23.439 --> 1:27:26.280 based on it's an old timey one. Okay, we don't 1:27:26.320 --> 1:27:28.400 know old timey very much, but and it's not even 1:27:28.439 --> 1:27:31.800 that old timey. It's it's like the eighteen nineties, okay. So, 1:27:32.360 --> 1:27:34.759 and I think it's loose. I think this is loose. 1:27:35.600 --> 1:27:37.920 It's kind of got a poisoning element, but it's not 1:27:38.040 --> 1:27:39.120 similar in any other way. 1:27:39.240 --> 1:27:42.040 But it's fun. I want to cover it. Okay. 1:27:42.360 --> 1:27:46.720 So, in eighteen ninety five, Cordelia Botkin was living in 1:27:46.800 --> 1:27:49.960 California and she was married to a guy named Welcome Botkin. 1:27:50.080 --> 1:27:53.439 His name is Welcome, like welcome back. And they've got 1:27:53.479 --> 1:27:56.360 a son, but he's grown. She married this guy when 1:27:56.360 --> 1:27:58.320 she was like seventeen or eighteen, and at this point 1:27:58.479 --> 1:28:01.040 she's like forty, she's a forty one. 1:28:01.360 --> 1:28:02.960 Okay, she's kind of bored. 1:28:03.160 --> 1:28:05.400 Her son has grown, her husband doesn't pay much attention 1:28:05.479 --> 1:28:07.360 to her, like they're still married. She does whatever the 1:28:07.400 --> 1:28:11.000 fuck she wants. She drinks, she carouses, she like lives 1:28:11.040 --> 1:28:13.760 her life. They live in I believe they live in Stockton, 1:28:14.240 --> 1:28:16.160 but she spends a lot of time in San Francisco 1:28:16.400 --> 1:28:17.360 kind of doing her own thing. 1:28:17.920 --> 1:28:19.560 And so one time in San Francisco. 1:28:20.000 --> 1:28:23.960 She meets John Preston Dunning and he is a fetorig 1:28:24.080 --> 1:28:29.800 war real name John Preston. Yeah wow, so mister her 1:28:29.840 --> 1:28:32.479 own mister big. Okay, she meets her own mister big. 1:28:33.360 --> 1:28:35.960 John Preston Dunning is a foreign war correspondent for the 1:28:36.040 --> 1:28:39.360 Associated Press who had returned to San Francisco to run 1:28:39.439 --> 1:28:41.600 their West Coast bureau. So this is not like a 1:28:42.040 --> 1:28:44.280 extra extra read all about it like journalists. This is 1:28:44.320 --> 1:28:46.840 like a he's a legit, like running a bureau. 1:28:46.560 --> 1:28:47.519 Of the AP. Okay. 1:28:48.080 --> 1:28:51.040 And he is not only a respected reporter, but a gambler, 1:28:51.160 --> 1:28:53.640 a drunk, and a notorious cheater and womanizer. 1:28:53.760 --> 1:28:54.680 Okay he is. 1:28:54.840 --> 1:28:59.240 He is mister big. Yeah, he's mister Big. So Cordelia, 1:28:59.720 --> 1:29:02.560 it's everything but the cigars we've got here. So Cordelia 1:29:02.680 --> 1:29:05.280 is forty one, Dunning is thirty two. They're both married, 1:29:05.400 --> 1:29:07.240 but he meets her and he's immediately obsessed. 1:29:07.360 --> 1:29:07.599 Okay. 1:29:08.000 --> 1:29:11.040 By eighteen ninety six they're having a full fledged affair. 1:29:11.360 --> 1:29:14.200 Dunning's wife is over it. She goes back to Delaware 1:29:14.439 --> 1:29:16.760 with her kid to live with her father, who's a 1:29:16.840 --> 1:29:17.760 former congressman. 1:29:17.920 --> 1:29:21.479 Okay, these are high level people. Cordelia and her husband. 1:29:21.560 --> 1:29:25.200 There's not like Cordelia is there. I don't know. 1:29:25.320 --> 1:29:28.200 I actually I know some I know a Cordelia. 1:29:28.680 --> 1:29:32.880 But Cordelia and her husband they're like a strange but 1:29:33.080 --> 1:29:35.760 like not really like he's supporting her financially. I don't 1:29:35.760 --> 1:29:37.640 think he gives a fuck what she's doing. Really Like, 1:29:37.680 --> 1:29:40.439 I think he realizes he's older, she's younger. He's in 1:29:40.520 --> 1:29:43.160 his late fifties by this point, I think, and he's like, 1:29:43.280 --> 1:29:45.240 she give me my son whatever. We had good times 1:29:45.280 --> 1:29:47.599 and she can just go do her thing. So he's 1:29:47.600 --> 1:29:50.920 supporting her financially. Dunning is, like I said, a drunk 1:29:50.960 --> 1:29:53.160 and a gambler. So he gets fired from his job 1:29:53.240 --> 1:29:55.920 at the AP for stealing four thousand dollars to pay 1:29:55.960 --> 1:29:58.080 off gambling debts, which you have to imagine in the 1:29:58.160 --> 1:30:00.800 eighteen nineties is like a lot of fucking money, right, 1:30:00.880 --> 1:30:05.360 four grand Other newspapers fire him for being a drunk, 1:30:05.760 --> 1:30:07.920 so he just keeps. So he ends up moving into 1:30:08.000 --> 1:30:11.680 Cordelia's hotel with her. By March of eighteen ninety eight, 1:30:12.760 --> 1:30:14.720 they've now been in this affair for two or three 1:30:14.800 --> 1:30:17.880 years now. Dunning gets re hired by the AP to 1:30:18.000 --> 1:30:22.080 report on the Spanish American War, and Cordelia takes him 1:30:22.120 --> 1:30:26.040 to the train station in Oakland to like bid him farewell, 1:30:26.200 --> 1:30:28.040 like they're in love. And it's there that he drops 1:30:28.080 --> 1:30:29.479 the bomb and he goes, oh, by the way, babe, 1:30:29.520 --> 1:30:31.400 I'm not coming back after the war. I'm getting back 1:30:31.400 --> 1:30:33.840 together with my wife and I'm going to live in Delaware. Bye, 1:30:34.560 --> 1:30:36.160 and like he wants to go back to his wife 1:30:36.200 --> 1:30:39.720 and daughter, and he just like that's the rams, that's 1:30:39.800 --> 1:30:44.240 the risk of Yes, yeah, you leave him how you 1:30:44.280 --> 1:30:46.160 found him, or you found him you you lose them 1:30:46.200 --> 1:30:47.800 how you found them, As they say in a lot 1:30:47.840 --> 1:30:49.640 of the Housewives, you lose them how you found them. 1:30:50.400 --> 1:30:52.640 Like if you started in an affair with someone and 1:30:52.760 --> 1:30:56.320 then they ended up getting with you, you know, chances 1:30:56.360 --> 1:30:58.000 are they're going to have an affair at some point again. 1:30:58.520 --> 1:31:00.760 So bye. H. 1:31:01.120 --> 1:31:05.880 Cordelia is of course distraught. She's upset that her lover 1:31:06.040 --> 1:31:08.639 has left her, and she goes full woman scorned. 1:31:08.720 --> 1:31:08.960 Okay. 1:31:09.439 --> 1:31:13.519 She starts sending letters to Dunning's wife, Mary Elizabeth Dunning, 1:31:14.040 --> 1:31:16.679 trolling her about these affairs that he's having, like making 1:31:16.760 --> 1:31:18.840 up women. Like in one of the letters, she wrote, 1:31:18.880 --> 1:31:22.559 your husband is quote constantly with this interesting and pretty woman, who, 1:31:22.640 --> 1:31:25.160 by the way, is an English woman. She is now 1:31:25.240 --> 1:31:28.160 divorcing from her husband, all owing to the market intimacy 1:31:28.240 --> 1:31:29.759 with mister Dunning end quote. 1:31:29.840 --> 1:31:32.759 So like she's like, you know, trolling writing these letters. 1:31:33.080 --> 1:31:36.200 Then on August ninth, eighteen ninety eight, Mary Elizabeth receives 1:31:36.240 --> 1:31:39.360 a package with a note. Inside is an elegant white 1:31:39.400 --> 1:31:42.720 box wrapped in pink satin ribbon, and the word Bombbonds 1:31:42.800 --> 1:31:44.760 is written in gold script on the box, and the 1:31:44.880 --> 1:31:48.760 note says, with love to yourself and baby missus C. 1:31:49.880 --> 1:31:51.640 Nobody talks about who missus C is. 1:31:51.760 --> 1:31:53.800 But this is what I'm reading everywhere is the is 1:31:53.840 --> 1:31:58.639 the inscription and apparently Elizabeth Mary Elizabeth is a big 1:31:58.760 --> 1:32:01.840 candy fan. Okay, So she eats three pieces of the candy. 1:32:02.080 --> 1:32:04.280 Her forty four year old sister Ida eats two pieces 1:32:04.320 --> 1:32:06.040 of the candy. They put the rest away to save 1:32:06.080 --> 1:32:09.599 for later. She immediately gets sick, so does her sister, 1:32:09.840 --> 1:32:14.240 and after two days of agonizing torture, they both die 1:32:14.960 --> 1:32:20.280 of arsenic poisoning. Okay, yeah, Mary Elizabeth's father, a former 1:32:20.439 --> 1:32:24.000 US congressman I mentioned he recognizes the handwriting on the 1:32:24.080 --> 1:32:28.720 note from the candy box. Looks familiar. They match it 1:32:28.840 --> 1:32:31.439 to these anonymous letters that she's been receiving, So whoever 1:32:31.520 --> 1:32:34.800 sent these letters has sent the candy. The news of 1:32:34.880 --> 1:32:38.040 the wife's death gets to Dunning, John Preston Dunning in 1:32:38.120 --> 1:32:38.719 Puerto Rico. 1:32:39.160 --> 1:32:40.840 He promptly catches a ship home. 1:32:41.280 --> 1:32:44.680 Reporters are waiting for him there and if anyone knows 1:32:44.720 --> 1:32:47.720 about getting a story, it's this guy. He admitted to 1:32:47.800 --> 1:32:50.880 having three affairs in San Francisco, but he felt like, 1:32:50.960 --> 1:32:52.920 deep down, Cordelia is the one that could have done this. 1:32:53.479 --> 1:32:55.479 Police found that the candy came from a shop in 1:32:55.520 --> 1:32:58.599 San Francisco, and that led them to Cordelia Bodkin at 1:32:58.680 --> 1:32:59.840 her home in San Francisco. 1:33:00.320 --> 1:33:02.599 She was living at this hotel. She had an apartment 1:33:02.600 --> 1:33:03.599 at the Hotel Victoria. 1:33:04.040 --> 1:33:06.840 They found paper string and a seal from the candy 1:33:06.920 --> 1:33:10.360 box that showed that she had basically, you know, cut 1:33:10.400 --> 1:33:12.840 off the string to open the box, put the arsenic 1:33:12.920 --> 1:33:14.960 in the chocolates, and then sealed it back up. And 1:33:15.080 --> 1:33:17.920 they found her at her husband's house in Stockton and 1:33:18.080 --> 1:33:20.479 the police asked her. She asked the police if she 1:33:20.520 --> 1:33:22.800 could please pack a trunk of clothes before going off 1:33:22.840 --> 1:33:25.320 to jail. And it was so heavy that two deputies 1:33:25.360 --> 1:33:27.599 had to carry it out. So this woman is wild. Okay, 1:33:27.840 --> 1:33:31.280 she got to prison, yeah, I guess so, yeah, she 1:33:31.360 --> 1:33:34.160 got to bring some clothes to jail. And this was 1:33:34.200 --> 1:33:37.800 the second murder by mail ever in American history, and 1:33:37.920 --> 1:33:42.800 it's the first American prosecution of a crime across jurisdictions 1:33:42.880 --> 1:33:45.960 like this because the poison was purchased and sent from 1:33:46.080 --> 1:33:50.720 California but ingested in Delaware. Wow. So she went to 1:33:50.840 --> 1:33:54.200 trial in eighteen ninety eight, she was convicted. She, of course, 1:33:54.400 --> 1:33:58.400 like any person with money, appealed, was retried, was convicted 1:33:58.479 --> 1:34:01.479 again in nineteen oh four, entrance to life, and she 1:34:01.640 --> 1:34:03.960 was sent to prison in San Francisco, But after the 1:34:04.040 --> 1:34:06.639 earthquake in nineteen oh six, she was moved to San 1:34:06.760 --> 1:34:10.080 Quentin and she died there in nineteen ten. Her lover, 1:34:10.360 --> 1:34:13.719 John Dunning, John Preston Dunning, his career was in ruins 1:34:13.760 --> 1:34:16.040 after all the details of the affair were revealed during 1:34:16.080 --> 1:34:18.000 the trial, and he died. 1:34:18.040 --> 1:34:21.760 In nineteen oh eight in Philadelphia. Dude, the thought of this. 1:34:21.920 --> 1:34:27.519 Like upper class rich woman in San Quentin is like wild, yeah, yeah, 1:34:28.240 --> 1:34:29.720 and like so. 1:34:29.840 --> 1:34:32.120 It's kind of like it's got rich people, it's got 1:34:32.200 --> 1:34:35.760 poison and that's kind of the only and candy. Oh well, 1:34:35.960 --> 1:34:38.960 well well mushroom, yeah, yeah, those are the toys. The 1:34:39.040 --> 1:34:42.000 ties to the mushroom A wet episode. 1:34:41.920 --> 1:34:44.959 But I don't know, something about like the old timiness 1:34:45.040 --> 1:34:47.280 of it does make it seem less real, where I'm 1:34:47.320 --> 1:34:49.280 like ooh, what I. 1:34:49.439 --> 1:34:52.360 Know, And also just like the trustingness of like getting 1:34:52.520 --> 1:34:55.200 random package of candy in the mail and going okay, 1:34:55.240 --> 1:34:58.040 yum yum and like eating it, you know, like yeah, 1:34:58.760 --> 1:35:00.760 like that's not a modern story. 1:35:01.080 --> 1:35:03.640 Like no, or it's like was she even like that? 1:35:03.840 --> 1:35:04.600 How was missus c. 1:35:06.200 --> 1:35:06.439 Yeah? 1:35:06.640 --> 1:35:07.760 Was it even a holiday? 1:35:09.120 --> 1:35:12.519 No? It was August, I mean a little pre labor 1:35:12.600 --> 1:35:15.559 day chocolate. I don't know, damn. 1:35:17.120 --> 1:35:19.720 But this is like, you know, there's old pictures of Cordelia, 1:35:19.920 --> 1:35:23.240 like bugshots of her, and like she's is she a hottie? 1:35:24.080 --> 1:35:27.720 She? Well, I wouldn't. I don't know. I wouldn't really 1:35:27.760 --> 1:35:30.479 say that, not the way that she is illustrated and 1:35:30.560 --> 1:35:31.520 also photographed. 1:35:32.160 --> 1:35:33.760 No, she doesn't come across as that. 1:35:33.880 --> 1:35:36.640 But I think that she was probably kind of like 1:35:37.320 --> 1:35:40.120 body and like and had like a sort of independence 1:35:40.200 --> 1:35:43.559 and like sexual freedom to her. That probably a lot 1:35:43.600 --> 1:35:45.439 of other women didn't have because their husbands were like 1:35:46.000 --> 1:35:48.720 weighing on them, and her husband was kind of like, 1:35:48.800 --> 1:35:50.760 do your thing, girl, I'll be in Stockton, like by 1:35:51.000 --> 1:35:53.240 you think he was gay? I don't know. 1:35:53.720 --> 1:35:54.639 They have the one son. 1:35:55.040 --> 1:35:55.559 He grew up. 1:35:55.680 --> 1:35:57.560 She was done being like a mom, and she was 1:35:57.680 --> 1:35:59.439 kind of like, all right, time for some affairs and 1:35:59.520 --> 1:36:00.880 some party in San Francisco. 1:36:01.680 --> 1:36:06.080 Wow, But like all the lawyers are like, you know, mustaches. 1:36:06.160 --> 1:36:07.160 Boy isn't the guy. 1:36:08.600 --> 1:36:11.120 I know? But it's like she probably thought, if she 1:36:11.160 --> 1:36:13.599 got rid of the wife somehow, what if my dads 1:36:14.000 --> 1:36:15.760 ate it, What if a bunch of what if they 1:36:15.800 --> 1:36:16.759 were being a dinner party? 1:36:17.080 --> 1:36:18.479 She could have murdered twelve people. 1:36:18.920 --> 1:36:21.720 I know. I think she probably wasn't thinking, and she 1:36:21.920 --> 1:36:24.840 was doing it through full jealousy, and she thought, if 1:36:24.880 --> 1:36:26.840 I can get rid of this woman, he'll come back 1:36:26.880 --> 1:36:27.040 to me. 1:36:28.040 --> 1:36:28.439 I don't know. 1:36:29.400 --> 1:36:31.560 Oh my god, I just read this thing that she 1:36:31.680 --> 1:36:34.080 died in prison in nineteen ten, and the official cause 1:36:34.160 --> 1:36:38.479 of death is the most fucking old timey thing I've 1:36:38.520 --> 1:36:43.920 ever heard, softening of the brain due to melancholia. So 1:36:44.479 --> 1:36:46.559 her brain got soft because she was so sad about 1:36:46.960 --> 1:36:52.320 getting dumped becoming a murderer and then getting got and imprisoned, 1:36:52.880 --> 1:36:56.640 so that Melancholia just softened her little brain. Right up, 1:36:58.200 --> 1:37:02.560 damn nuts, and stay tuned, guys, because we have a 1:37:02.720 --> 1:37:07.919 jam packed guest. Than you ever take candy from a stranger. 1:37:09.080 --> 1:37:11.320 We have a jam pack guest. Don't go anywhere. We 1:37:11.400 --> 1:37:21.920 have a great guest. Our guest today. Oh my god, 1:37:21.960 --> 1:37:24.280 I'm so excited we got him. He is a beloved 1:37:24.320 --> 1:37:26.840 actor who's been part of our lives for over thirty years. 1:37:27.200 --> 1:37:29.559 You may know him from his early roles in iconic 1:37:29.640 --> 1:37:32.479 films like Adam's Family Values, The Ice Storm, The Santa 1:37:32.520 --> 1:37:35.679 Claus and Ten Things I Hate About You, Delta's most 1:37:35.720 --> 1:37:38.680 played movie. He also recently has been in movies like 1:37:38.800 --> 1:37:41.680 Oppenheimer and the series The Studio. But you know him 1:37:41.720 --> 1:37:45.240 best as our little mushroom man, doctor Vincent pro Chick. 1:37:45.640 --> 1:37:49.000 Please enjoy our chat with the hilarious David Crumholtz. 1:37:49.600 --> 1:37:52.960 This seems like a long time coming because we do 1:37:53.120 --> 1:37:56.920 this episode at our live shows. It's one of our mainstays. 1:37:56.960 --> 1:37:59.120 So we've talked about you a lot. I'm in a 1:37:59.160 --> 1:38:01.800 lot of different city just waiting for this moment. 1:38:02.240 --> 1:38:05.680 How do people react in different cities. Well, when you 1:38:05.800 --> 1:38:06.799 bring me up, well. 1:38:06.680 --> 1:38:10.920 This episode, will you specifically everybody? Yeah, everybody loves this episode. 1:38:10.960 --> 1:38:15.040 It's iconic, it's campy, it's glass. So I would saying 1:38:15.280 --> 1:38:19.679 I hate about you. Oh that's that's kind of that's 1:38:19.720 --> 1:38:22.240 our audience. So that gets people really riled up. 1:38:22.400 --> 1:38:25.360 Where did this? Like, I mean, your your career. 1:38:25.120 --> 1:38:27.640 Goes back so long, and like this feels like it 1:38:27.800 --> 1:38:30.960 kind of falls in between. Like you're doing the show 1:38:31.120 --> 1:38:34.599 Numbers and you're like a regular on Numbers and then 1:38:35.280 --> 1:38:38.360 you're but like you're popping into doing SVU, Like how 1:38:38.400 --> 1:38:39.120 did this come to you? 1:38:40.040 --> 1:38:44.800 This was after Numbers had ended? Okay, uh and not 1:38:45.600 --> 1:38:49.479 too soon after, but not you know, a good couple 1:38:49.520 --> 1:38:54.320 of years, I would guess. And uh, yeah I did 1:38:54.360 --> 1:38:57.920 not audition. Hell yeah, I'm a New York, New York, 1:38:59.120 --> 1:39:04.880 New York. So they came and got me, which is 1:39:05.040 --> 1:39:07.760 very nice of them. I had done an episode of 1:39:07.840 --> 1:39:10.280 the original Law in Order when I was fifteen years old. 1:39:10.640 --> 1:39:12.439 I don't remember were that young, dah yea. I was 1:39:12.479 --> 1:39:13.360 in nineteen eighty three. 1:39:14.320 --> 1:39:16.759 I look eight years old in it, but I'm fifteen 1:39:17.360 --> 1:39:20.800 cool and so then yeah, they came and got me 1:39:21.280 --> 1:39:24.439 and I said, without a doubt I would do it 1:39:25.479 --> 1:39:29.920 fun part, and you know, being part of that whole 1:39:30.040 --> 1:39:33.719 universe for a second time was really thrilling. The idea 1:39:33.720 --> 1:39:36.120 of that was really thrilling to me. Getting to work 1:39:36.160 --> 1:39:43.760 with marishka iced Tea, who's amazing, Chris uh just you know, 1:39:44.920 --> 1:39:46.960 you know, you just know that it's going to be 1:39:47.040 --> 1:39:49.439 a lot of fun. And that episode was really quirky 1:39:49.520 --> 1:39:52.360 and weird and kind of loved that it wasn't too 1:39:53.120 --> 1:39:54.360 dramatic or serious. 1:39:54.560 --> 1:39:57.760 You know, Yeah, just one dead woman, so that's good. 1:39:58.439 --> 1:40:00.720 Just one dead old woman, one dead woman. 1:40:00.800 --> 1:40:04.120 And yeah, she's at the beginning and it's yeah, she's. 1:40:04.000 --> 1:40:06.040 Evil and she's trying to take water away from people. 1:40:06.840 --> 1:40:07.040 Yeah. 1:40:07.160 --> 1:40:10.599 And by the way, I did another episode fairly recently. Yeah, 1:40:10.720 --> 1:40:12.600 us for you, so they seem to like me. 1:40:13.240 --> 1:40:15.760 Yeah, did you note, like, did you notice any big 1:40:15.800 --> 1:40:17.840 differences from when you did it in like twenty ten 1:40:18.000 --> 1:40:20.400 versus doing it again in like twenty thirteen. I mean, now, 1:40:20.439 --> 1:40:24.559 obviously Christopher Maloney's gone, mart is kind of like the big. 1:40:25.280 --> 1:40:29.760 Well the law in order set. Their crew, that's the 1:40:29.880 --> 1:40:33.479 most well oiled crew ever. You know, they've been doing 1:40:33.840 --> 1:40:37.519 the show for what is it twenty seven, twenty eight 1:40:37.640 --> 1:40:38.519 years now? Almost? 1:40:39.200 --> 1:40:41.880 I mean six right now? Yeah, okay, but they're renewed 1:40:41.960 --> 1:40:43.320 for two more years or three years. 1:40:43.360 --> 1:40:47.040 It's just they they blink and make television, you know 1:40:47.040 --> 1:40:51.479 what I mean. Like it's so the days are lovely, 1:40:51.680 --> 1:40:54.840 the freedom. You just don't get that on any other 1:40:54.960 --> 1:40:59.360 crime procedural, any other broadcast network show. It's just show 1:40:59.439 --> 1:41:01.240 up and let's have fun with it. Because at this 1:41:01.400 --> 1:41:04.759 point they're well past the point, let's say, of jumping 1:41:04.840 --> 1:41:08.320 the shark or gilding the lily as a show. So 1:41:08.600 --> 1:41:13.000 they're very interested in finding like the juicy new They're 1:41:13.000 --> 1:41:15.439 always looking for, like, what's the new thing we can 1:41:15.520 --> 1:41:19.920 do to keep ourselves fascinated. You know, they really do 1:41:20.280 --> 1:41:23.599 make law and order for not only their adoring audience, 1:41:24.240 --> 1:41:26.479 but themselves. I think they think that, you know, and 1:41:26.520 --> 1:41:29.360 they have that's the right attitude, which is, if we're entertained, 1:41:29.439 --> 1:41:32.439 if we keep this interesting for ourselves, then our audience 1:41:32.520 --> 1:41:34.519 will will love it. And it seems to be working 1:41:35.040 --> 1:41:38.000 to the tune of two more seasons at least what 1:41:38.120 --> 1:41:39.439 I said, and. 1:41:39.479 --> 1:41:42.599 The longest running live action show on television. 1:41:42.640 --> 1:41:46.400 I think, yeah, yes, so I think ever right, yeah, 1:41:46.560 --> 1:41:47.080 live action. 1:41:47.720 --> 1:41:51.080 I think, who are they against Bonanza or something like 1:41:51.240 --> 1:41:53.800 back in the I don't think at times like yeah, 1:41:54.439 --> 1:41:57.920 olden times Bonanza. So wait, what happened? Like, so the 1:41:58.000 --> 1:42:00.560 second episode you did was in was it like it 1:42:00.680 --> 1:42:05.080 was last year? So did you like, at this point 1:42:05.840 --> 1:42:10.200 you're doing Oppenheimer, You're in all these like movies, but 1:42:10.280 --> 1:42:11.800 they come back to you for law and orders for 1:42:11.840 --> 1:42:12.400 you and you're like. 1:42:12.640 --> 1:42:15.799 I'm there for this second episode. 1:42:16.600 --> 1:42:21.160 Well, no doubt about it, regardless of what the situation was. 1:42:21.240 --> 1:42:24.320 But the situation was that I hadn't worked for nine 1:42:24.320 --> 1:42:26.880 straight months because of the sag actors. 1:42:27.120 --> 1:42:28.320 Right, Okay, I. 1:42:28.400 --> 1:42:32.280 Have two children, I have a dog and two cats. 1:42:33.320 --> 1:42:35.320 Now it's a no brainer. You don't say no to law. No, 1:42:35.760 --> 1:42:38.200 you just don't say no. Yeah, and if you do, 1:42:38.840 --> 1:42:43.280 you know who my precious. I mean, you know, I'm 1:42:43.320 --> 1:42:46.479 not like that. It's a New York staple. I get 1:42:46.560 --> 1:42:48.320 to work in New York, I get to play in 1:42:48.400 --> 1:42:52.559 New Yorker. It's you know, we shot in Queens. I'm 1:42:52.640 --> 1:42:57.559 from Queens. I mean it's a no brainer. Yeah, every time, 1:42:57.640 --> 1:42:58.360 it's a no brainer. 1:42:58.400 --> 1:42:58.559 Yeah. 1:42:58.640 --> 1:42:58.800 Yeah. 1:42:59.120 --> 1:43:03.479 The people, the showrunners, the directors in that case was 1:43:03.880 --> 1:43:06.639 Norbit or Barbara just wonderful people. 1:43:07.160 --> 1:43:07.320 You know. 1:43:07.640 --> 1:43:09.799 Did you ever live in LA or did you always 1:43:09.880 --> 1:43:10.240 New York? 1:43:10.880 --> 1:43:12.960 Yeah? I lived in LA for fifteen years. 1:43:13.880 --> 1:43:14.800 What made you go back? 1:43:15.760 --> 1:43:21.439 I wanted to establish some trace of humanity in myself, 1:43:23.240 --> 1:43:26.320 not find it. It had been stamped out. I needed 1:43:26.400 --> 1:43:30.200 to re establish. It was a rebirth when I moved 1:43:30.280 --> 1:43:34.880 back LA. Just and I we had our romantic period 1:43:35.439 --> 1:43:38.479 and it was very nice, it was, and then it 1:43:38.880 --> 1:43:44.200 got dark quick for me there and I yeah, yeah, 1:43:45.160 --> 1:43:49.040 I got the heck out of Dodge Plus in the nineties. 1:43:49.960 --> 1:43:52.400 When I moved out to LA in the late nineties 1:43:52.920 --> 1:43:57.120 early two thousands, the only thing shooting in New York 1:43:57.439 --> 1:44:02.160 on a regular basis were the Lower Norman. Everything else 1:44:02.240 --> 1:44:05.320 had left town, you know, there was nothing, and so 1:44:05.479 --> 1:44:08.720 it made no sense to stay in New York. I 1:44:08.880 --> 1:44:11.519 needed to go pay my dues and get work in LA. 1:44:12.360 --> 1:44:16.519 But when I you know, fifteen years later, you know, 1:44:16.640 --> 1:44:20.560 with the tax credit, the work had returned in abundance 1:44:20.680 --> 1:44:23.200 to New York, and I thought, well, I need to 1:44:23.320 --> 1:44:25.800 go home, you know, be with my family, go home 1:44:25.960 --> 1:44:29.479 and raise my children here and yees. 1:44:29.920 --> 1:44:31.600 So I want to ask you, since you live in 1:44:31.680 --> 1:44:33.760 New Jersey. Do you have run ins with the Real 1:44:33.800 --> 1:44:35.160 Housewives of New Jersey ever? 1:44:35.720 --> 1:44:35.920 Yeah? 1:44:36.040 --> 1:44:38.440 Have you seen them out and about fighting at restaurants, 1:44:38.600 --> 1:44:41.880 flipping tables, throwing wine at each other's faces. They are 1:44:41.960 --> 1:44:45.320 one of the most out of pocket franchises. 1:44:45.840 --> 1:44:49.679 Yeah. I've only seen one of them out in the wild, 1:44:51.000 --> 1:44:52.799 and she's the normal one. Jakile. 1:44:53.439 --> 1:44:54.680 Oh, Kathy, I don't know. 1:44:54.880 --> 1:45:01.880 Kathya, whose husband is riotously funny. She owns she owns 1:45:01.880 --> 1:45:04.400 a pizza place, and I saw her there the other day. 1:45:05.080 --> 1:45:09.519 I once ran into Caroline Manzo now there now we're 1:45:09.560 --> 1:45:14.479 talking in the city at an industry party, and she 1:45:14.760 --> 1:45:17.400 was clear. She she had a look on her face 1:45:17.479 --> 1:45:22.360 of deep misery. Her life had been ruined by the show. 1:45:22.439 --> 1:45:24.680 It was clear. So I didn't approach her. 1:45:25.320 --> 1:45:28.120 But then she on her sister's husband. 1:45:28.960 --> 1:45:31.000 I don't know about that. And then I and then 1:45:32.120 --> 1:45:39.000 we met, uh who's the Gorgas Joe, And I was 1:45:39.120 --> 1:45:41.920 amazed by how tiny they are. 1:45:42.240 --> 1:45:44.639 Oh yeah, Joe's like five five two. 1:45:45.320 --> 1:45:48.240 Yeah, and she's like five feet yeah. Tiny, little you know, 1:45:48.479 --> 1:45:53.160 hobbit hobbiton hobbit type, you know, little Italian American hobbit. 1:45:55.479 --> 1:45:59.680 Wow, Oh my god, now did you know who they were? 1:45:59.800 --> 1:46:02.320 It's someone have to tell you. No. 1:46:02.720 --> 1:46:05.799 I watched that show. I watched the first three seasons, 1:46:05.880 --> 1:46:10.360 like religiously. It's the best Real Housewives of all of them. 1:46:10.400 --> 1:46:13.280 And I I love the New York one. I loved 1:46:13.560 --> 1:46:17.559 the Beverly Hills one. This is the other one life, 1:46:17.880 --> 1:46:20.560 but Real Housewives of New Jersey, come on, that's the 1:46:20.640 --> 1:46:21.120 best one. 1:46:21.320 --> 1:46:23.840 Well, I would say the Steaks are the highest because 1:46:23.840 --> 1:46:28.120 of them, the familial aspect, the darkness. But I would 1:46:28.160 --> 1:46:31.120 say in terms of comedy, New York just they get 1:46:31.200 --> 1:46:33.680 so drunk. I like New York, right, I. 1:46:33.760 --> 1:46:35.920 Like New York too. But the thing is, here's why 1:46:35.960 --> 1:46:38.639 I like New Jersey. And this is true of New Jersey. 1:46:39.800 --> 1:46:40.879 Very little irony. 1:46:41.520 --> 1:46:45.400 Oh you can't do it, Metapore they take it for. 1:46:45.640 --> 1:46:50.120 Which is weird because New York is like Irony Central 1:46:50.360 --> 1:46:55.600 and just you know, ten miles away, you're you know, 1:46:55.720 --> 1:46:59.000 there's no And so that show works on a sort 1:46:59.040 --> 1:47:03.680 of meta level of understanding that woll these people are 1:47:03.960 --> 1:47:05.519 shockingly real people. 1:47:06.479 --> 1:47:06.640 You know. 1:47:06.960 --> 1:47:08.840 Yeah, well this last season, I know you've been out 1:47:08.840 --> 1:47:11.240 of the game for a while. But the biggest controversy 1:47:11.360 --> 1:47:13.840 was someone called someone else's slob. 1:47:15.000 --> 1:47:17.200 And it costs chaos, and we're like, that doesn't even 1:47:17.280 --> 1:47:18.200 seem like that bad. 1:47:19.360 --> 1:47:22.080 Oh I'm a slot. Let me tell you about your 1:47:22.200 --> 1:47:23.280 slob husband. 1:47:23.160 --> 1:47:23.880 And my family. 1:47:25.280 --> 1:47:27.320 Oh well, where I grew up. Slob didn't mean anything 1:47:27.439 --> 1:47:27.600 like that. 1:47:27.880 --> 1:47:31.880 Like it's oh then too, because I don't mean to 1:47:32.000 --> 1:47:34.960 be insulting them in any way, but they're not aspirational 1:47:35.080 --> 1:47:37.800 to me. Like the Beverly Hills, New York. They've got 1:47:37.880 --> 1:47:41.880 some gorgeous houses, apartments, cars. The people in New Jersey, 1:47:42.040 --> 1:47:43.600 I'm like, I don't want to live in one of 1:47:43.640 --> 1:47:47.520 these architectural nightmares where there's too many pointed columns. 1:47:47.120 --> 1:47:49.760 But you know, and the pools are not. 1:47:49.920 --> 1:47:52.639 But like, you know, I'm not so I'm able since 1:47:52.680 --> 1:47:55.640 I'm not like really jealous of the marble columns or 1:47:55.760 --> 1:47:58.320 the you know, granted, like the marble countertops. 1:47:58.400 --> 1:48:02.120 I'm like, I can just folk on the behavior. 1:48:01.840 --> 1:48:04.200 And the interactions, you know, I can really focus. 1:48:04.000 --> 1:48:05.400 In on them and who they are. 1:48:05.560 --> 1:48:09.400 No, the truth is they've they've made it in their 1:48:09.479 --> 1:48:15.120 opinions to the highest level they can, and so they're 1:48:15.240 --> 1:48:17.240 then they have it's a pain in the ass for 1:48:17.360 --> 1:48:19.439 them to have to deal with the rest of their lives, 1:48:20.040 --> 1:48:23.800 specifically their family members, including each other. Right, they're not 1:48:24.040 --> 1:48:26.800 dealing with Oh I didn't get that business deal or 1:48:26.880 --> 1:48:32.280 I wish i'd you know, met that you know important person. No, 1:48:32.560 --> 1:48:36.240 they're really mired in. Don't you dare come near me? 1:48:36.520 --> 1:48:40.439 You've disrespected me. Everything is like you disrespected palace. 1:48:40.960 --> 1:48:43.200 Right, you walk into this palace, You've better be on 1:48:43.320 --> 1:48:46.320 your best behavior. Bitch. You know it's that. 1:48:46.600 --> 1:48:48.560 Have you not been on Watch What Happens Live? No? 1:48:48.680 --> 1:48:49.439 I just googled it. 1:48:49.640 --> 1:48:51.280 No, No, I've not been on anything. 1:48:51.600 --> 1:48:52.080 That's great. 1:48:52.120 --> 1:48:53.400 It's amazing that you. 1:48:53.680 --> 1:48:56.080 I think if they knew that you liked if they 1:48:56.200 --> 1:48:59.760 knew that you liked Bravo, they'd have you. 1:49:00.080 --> 1:49:02.320 I think they like to have straight men on who 1:49:02.479 --> 1:49:05.799 like the shows. I'm not making a I'm trying. 1:49:05.640 --> 1:49:08.320 Not trying to make a qualification about your sexual mind. 1:49:09.760 --> 1:49:14.280 Carot My uh following if I have a following event 1:49:14.960 --> 1:49:21.519 is such a deep sub subculture. I am truly iconic, 1:49:21.680 --> 1:49:26.759 if anything, for being invisible. No one gives a shit 1:49:27.280 --> 1:49:30.679 what I have to say. And when I'm on talk shows, 1:49:31.400 --> 1:49:34.400 people are like, why am I being subjected to a 1:49:34.479 --> 1:49:37.960 complete nobody? Like when I you know what I inspire 1:49:38.080 --> 1:49:43.000 when people have I inspire total non talents to be like, oh, 1:49:43.280 --> 1:49:44.960 this guy can be on a talk. 1:49:44.960 --> 1:49:50.080 That's so insane because you're in like though Oscar winning movie. 1:49:50.600 --> 1:49:52.479 Yeah, you're just in the Oscar winning movie. 1:49:52.520 --> 1:49:56.519 You're in this new Jeremy Allen White Springsteen biopic that 1:49:56.560 --> 1:49:59.760 everyone's freaking wet in their pants over like you're you. 1:50:00.160 --> 1:50:03.400 Your IMDb is extensive, which I want to get into 1:50:03.560 --> 1:50:04.040 first of all. 1:50:06.520 --> 1:50:11.080 I'm also but the thing is that everybody has to 1:50:11.200 --> 1:50:15.639 understand is this uh and you'll find this this will 1:50:15.680 --> 1:50:20.200 be your lowest rated as no doubt about the name. 1:50:20.400 --> 1:50:23.759 Now here's what I've come to learn. The name crumb holds. 1:50:24.320 --> 1:50:28.200 The name crumb Holds is so jarring to people because 1:50:28.280 --> 1:50:30.840 they read it and they go, how could any celebrity 1:50:31.560 --> 1:50:35.360 or any one of any notoriety keep the name crumb holds. 1:50:36.000 --> 1:50:38.839 This can't be a famous person. This is some random 1:50:38.960 --> 1:50:43.120 PA that worked on the show for two episodes. You know, 1:50:43.280 --> 1:50:46.439 Like the name crumb Holds schisms people's brain. I know 1:50:46.560 --> 1:50:49.680 it does with mine. Actually, a few weeks ago, I'm 1:50:49.760 --> 1:50:53.280 not kidding. I had a very serious conversation this late 1:50:53.360 --> 1:50:56.640 into my career, and I mean dead serious with my 1:50:56.840 --> 1:51:00.760 representation about changing my name to David Crumb because I 1:51:00.920 --> 1:51:03.400 was like, I think it'll be like cuter and it 1:51:03.520 --> 1:51:06.519 has more succinct, and it has a ring, it has 1:51:06.600 --> 1:51:09.600 a thing to it. David Crumb. Dave Crumb and my 1:51:09.800 --> 1:51:10.800 agents were like, do. 1:51:10.960 --> 1:51:13.160 Not do that. Don't do that. You have one hundred 1:51:13.200 --> 1:51:17.360 and thirty two IMDb credits with six you wanted like 1:51:17.439 --> 1:51:19.120 the Parenthesy Crumb holds. 1:51:19.800 --> 1:51:22.439 You know, well maybe, But I thought to myself, you 1:51:22.520 --> 1:51:26.200 know they're wrong. I'm going rogue. And I went so 1:51:26.400 --> 1:51:29.519 far as to reach out to SAG and ask them 1:51:29.640 --> 1:51:31.960 if I can do it, and they said yes, and 1:51:32.080 --> 1:51:35.519 that scared me. Oh god, I'm not doing it, but 1:51:35.720 --> 1:51:39.240 you'll see my Instagram. So that day it was I'm 1:51:39.479 --> 1:51:44.439 very compulsive, impulsive, compulsive, And that day I changed my 1:51:44.600 --> 1:51:48.960 Instagram name to David Crumb and I've been trying to 1:51:49.120 --> 1:51:51.000 change it back and it won't. 1:51:51.200 --> 1:51:54.320 I'm still at Oh, if this is recently, I'll tell 1:51:54.360 --> 1:51:58.360 you what it's. It's a thirty day thing if you're verified. 1:51:58.439 --> 1:52:01.080 So I started because I know who just changed it 1:52:01.160 --> 1:52:04.040 as a fluke his name to Cia and now he 1:52:04.120 --> 1:52:06.160 can't change it back to thirty for thirty. 1:52:06.320 --> 1:52:08.160 That's terrible. I'm going to try to do it right 1:52:08.240 --> 1:52:10.040 now because I've been trying. 1:52:10.120 --> 1:52:11.880 Yeah, you're David Crumb on there. 1:52:12.040 --> 1:52:12.639 Yeah, I'm David. 1:52:12.720 --> 1:52:16.320 Yeah, I'm suching my connect at Watch What Happens Live? 1:52:16.520 --> 1:52:16.800 Thanks? 1:52:18.439 --> 1:52:20.439 Can we ask you though? 1:52:21.000 --> 1:52:24.960 Like, so, your career, according to Wikipedia, was and I 1:52:25.080 --> 1:52:27.880 know that's not always correct, was kicked off when you 1:52:28.000 --> 1:52:30.160 just went to like an open audition when you were thirteen, 1:52:30.240 --> 1:52:32.439 and that's how you just jumped into this long career 1:52:32.520 --> 1:52:35.679 of child acting and into adult acting. 1:52:36.520 --> 1:52:42.439 Yeah, it's super weird that such a it's very I see, 1:52:42.479 --> 1:52:46.639 it is very sort of uh divine in a way. 1:52:46.720 --> 1:52:50.200 Not I'm not joking, like somebody saved my life, you know, 1:52:50.360 --> 1:52:51.080 some spirit. 1:52:51.400 --> 1:52:52.519 It was meant to be because I. 1:52:53.040 --> 1:52:55.439 Would have been a trash heap of a human being 1:52:55.880 --> 1:52:58.719 had I not become an actor. So so, yes, that happened. 1:52:58.840 --> 1:53:02.720 I got crazy, which is hard only when people ask 1:53:02.800 --> 1:53:04.519 me like how do you get into the business? How'd 1:53:04.560 --> 1:53:08.880 you get in? And I'm always like, my story literally apply, 1:53:09.360 --> 1:53:09.519 you know. 1:53:09.800 --> 1:53:13.400 Yeah, and then you're after you did this play on Broadway. 1:53:13.880 --> 1:53:16.720 You the first movie you made, I think is called 1:53:16.760 --> 1:53:19.040 Life with Mikey which my uncle is in. So I've 1:53:19.080 --> 1:53:21.960 seen it a thousand times that I love. And you 1:53:22.040 --> 1:53:23.720 were like a little child star in the movie. But 1:53:23.800 --> 1:53:25.800 it's like your first movie you ever made, right, are 1:53:25.880 --> 1:53:26.920 you like a little child star? 1:53:27.640 --> 1:53:30.280 Yes? I play an obnoxious Yeah. 1:53:30.880 --> 1:53:33.400 So what typical came to set with you. 1:53:36.040 --> 1:53:36.559 On that one? 1:53:36.600 --> 1:53:39.040 And how did they behave throughout your childhood on sets? 1:53:39.920 --> 1:53:44.320 Oh? Okay, my my my mother. It was mostly my mother. 1:53:44.439 --> 1:53:48.200 Once in a while my dad would come. My mother. 1:53:48.760 --> 1:53:52.000 Uh what a questions? 1:53:52.160 --> 1:53:53.800 Oh, we love child actor stuff. 1:53:54.720 --> 1:54:00.280 I gotta be careful. My mother liked being the center 1:54:00.400 --> 1:54:05.559 of attention herself. Aw, and my mother has is one 1:54:05.640 --> 1:54:09.280 of these. She's a New Yorker but born and hungry, 1:54:09.560 --> 1:54:14.719 and she has a very She doesn't mince her words, 1:54:15.080 --> 1:54:19.720 and so she likes to sort of be the you know, 1:54:21.160 --> 1:54:25.960 cursing mom, the nasty cursing mom. She was lovely and 1:54:26.040 --> 1:54:28.280 she's a lot of fun, but she tells it like 1:54:28.360 --> 1:54:31.720 it is, and so she would come to the set 1:54:31.880 --> 1:54:39.040 and embarrass me to no end daily, but in the 1:54:39.120 --> 1:54:41.680 most loving, funny way. But it was the kind of 1:54:41.760 --> 1:54:44.080 thing like one time she was talking, I remember I 1:54:44.160 --> 1:54:46.200 did a TV show, my first TV show, I did, 1:54:46.320 --> 1:54:48.520 and Henry Winkler played my father, and we were sitting 1:54:48.520 --> 1:54:52.120 at lunch one day and she said something in Henry 1:54:52.160 --> 1:54:56.320 Winkler that deeply embarrassed me, and I kicked her under 1:54:56.360 --> 1:54:58.200 the table, not hard, but I gave her like a 1:54:58.280 --> 1:55:00.680 kick in the leg under the table, and she went, 1:55:00.880 --> 1:55:03.520 what are you kicking me for? He's kicking me under 1:55:03.560 --> 1:55:06.280 the table. You know, she's that kind of mom. And 1:55:06.320 --> 1:55:10.200 I'm like, I don't tell people I'm kicking. But she 1:55:10.400 --> 1:55:12.320 had a lot of fun. She was fun, and she 1:55:12.480 --> 1:55:15.120 had a lot of fun, and we travel together, and 1:55:15.440 --> 1:55:18.880 you know, she was she was great. And my dad 1:55:19.200 --> 1:55:23.320 would come and you know, being on a set when 1:55:23.360 --> 1:55:28.000 you really just visiting is crazy boring. And my dad 1:55:28.320 --> 1:55:31.000 was kind of on a lot of high blood pressure 1:55:31.040 --> 1:55:35.560 medication and so which rendered him somewhat narcoleptic, and he 1:55:35.600 --> 1:55:38.600 would fall asleep a lot and snore. And so there 1:55:38.640 --> 1:55:42.640 were times I remember where I'd be on set filming 1:55:43.160 --> 1:55:45.520 in the middle of a take and the set sound 1:55:45.560 --> 1:55:47.440 guy would be like, we have to hold because someone 1:55:47.560 --> 1:55:49.680 is snoring on set, and it would. 1:55:49.560 --> 1:55:55.200 Always be yeah, oh my god, But like your IMDb 1:55:55.360 --> 1:55:57.240 is so wild. It's like this life with Mikey movie, 1:55:57.280 --> 1:55:59.520 which important to me and maybe no one else. Law 1:55:59.520 --> 1:56:03.360 and Order immediately, Adam's family values iconic. Then the Santa 1:56:03.360 --> 1:56:05.880 Claus you looks like your fourth professional credit is like 1:56:05.960 --> 1:56:10.240 this character that sort of established you. Then I got 1:56:10.400 --> 1:56:13.720 to ask you later, you do the Ice Storm filmed 1:56:13.760 --> 1:56:17.320 in my town? Filmed in my hometown. It completely shook 1:56:17.360 --> 1:56:19.480 our whole town. We all went to go watch scenes 1:56:19.520 --> 1:56:21.360 be shot. It was like, were you in New Canaan, 1:56:21.400 --> 1:56:23.040 Connecticut shooting any of that? Or were you in the 1:56:23.080 --> 1:56:23.400 scenes that. 1:56:23.400 --> 1:56:24.160 Were all in Manhattan. 1:56:24.640 --> 1:56:25.520 Yeah, it was in the scenes. 1:56:26.560 --> 1:56:30.600 All this, all the repressed suburban shit was in my hometown. 1:56:31.200 --> 1:56:33.520 Oh my god, I saw Christina Ricci. I almost died. 1:56:33.560 --> 1:56:35.800 It was like we were we were having heart attacks. 1:56:36.000 --> 1:56:37.840 But that was like your thing, out of the kid, 1:56:38.080 --> 1:56:41.960 out of the kid world you were moving into more adults. 1:56:42.200 --> 1:56:46.560 Were incredible, Like as a kid. 1:56:46.520 --> 1:56:49.360 Or are you like, oh my god, truthfully, you want 1:56:49.360 --> 1:56:52.880 to know the truth. That's a good question. So first off, 1:56:52.960 --> 1:56:55.400 I thought, oh, this is what it's what it is 1:56:55.560 --> 1:56:58.360 to be an actor. You just worked constant Yeah, right, 1:56:58.680 --> 1:57:01.280 I had been discovered off the street, so I didn't 1:57:01.480 --> 1:57:06.960 know anything, but you know, consistent success for the first 1:57:07.040 --> 1:57:10.280 four years, and I thought, oh, that's what it's going 1:57:10.360 --> 1:57:13.040 to be. And then you know, I remember when I 1:57:13.160 --> 1:57:18.400 was seventeen, I had like a good nine months of 1:57:18.520 --> 1:57:22.360 unemployment and it really was the moment where I decided 1:57:22.480 --> 1:57:26.120 to become an actor. I'd never really decided. I just 1:57:26.200 --> 1:57:29.400 got lucky, so suddenly I had to be like, is 1:57:29.520 --> 1:57:33.440 this what I want to do? Where it's where this 1:57:33.600 --> 1:57:39.360 huge rollercoaster that has its ups and downs, And so 1:57:40.080 --> 1:57:42.640 that was a tough moment. Did I think I was 1:57:42.760 --> 1:57:45.120 awesome too much? 1:57:45.600 --> 1:57:45.640 So? 1:57:46.120 --> 1:57:51.200 Yes, And I remember, yes, I had a massive ego 1:57:51.320 --> 1:57:55.080 about my acting when I was young, because I went 1:57:55.280 --> 1:57:59.000 from being literally not even wanting to be an actor 1:57:59.160 --> 1:58:04.040 to suddenly being a consistently working actor in movies. And 1:58:04.400 --> 1:58:07.560 you know, I grew up worshiping movies, so suddenly I 1:58:07.680 --> 1:58:11.200 was in them and it was just mind blowing. At 1:58:11.200 --> 1:58:14.800 the same time, I understood how lucky I was, so that, 1:58:15.240 --> 1:58:18.920 thank God tempered my ego a bit. And my mom, 1:58:19.320 --> 1:58:22.080 to her great credit, would always say, this is a fluke, 1:58:22.200 --> 1:58:24.560 this is a fluke, this is a fluke. You're you 1:58:24.640 --> 1:58:28.720 don't understand how lucky you were. And thank God, because 1:58:28.760 --> 1:58:32.760 she was worried I would get a massive ego, And yeah, 1:58:32.840 --> 1:58:36.520 I would say until I was about this is just true. 1:58:37.360 --> 1:58:42.520 Until I was about twenty three, I thought, not only 1:58:42.600 --> 1:58:45.000 am I the greatest actor that ever lived, but I'm 1:58:45.040 --> 1:58:49.240 the greatest that will ever live. I mean, you know, 1:58:49.520 --> 1:58:51.400 I was twenty three. 1:58:51.520 --> 1:58:52.640 Do you remember the shift? 1:58:53.120 --> 1:58:57.080 Yeah, I think I did a couple of failed multiicam sitcoms. Yeah, 1:58:58.000 --> 1:59:01.120 and those will really bring it down earth, because you know, 1:59:01.240 --> 1:59:05.480 you're you're you're slinging not so great jokes that you 1:59:05.680 --> 1:59:09.880 didn't write to a live audience that isn't laughing. I 1:59:09.960 --> 1:59:12.320 mean that's kind of like that's when you realize, oh, 1:59:12.480 --> 1:59:16.080 to some extent, I'm a puppet and you know, like 1:59:16.360 --> 1:59:19.760 you know, I'm just a jobbing actor, feather in the wind. 1:59:19.880 --> 1:59:22.320 And for a while I didn't like that very much, 1:59:22.400 --> 1:59:24.400 but now I love it now. Now it's and I 1:59:24.520 --> 1:59:31.640 do it with great humility and gratitude now because because 1:59:31.920 --> 1:59:35.400 you know, I have to deal with myself at the 1:59:35.560 --> 1:59:37.720 end of the day, right, and I have to come 1:59:37.800 --> 1:59:41.320 home and keep myself to a certain standard, both as 1:59:41.360 --> 1:59:43.920 an actor and as a dad and as a human being. 1:59:44.080 --> 1:59:44.200 Right. 1:59:44.400 --> 1:59:48.000 So yeah, I mean, yeah, do you have one before 1:59:48.000 --> 1:59:50.240 I bring up ten things I hate about you. No, 1:59:50.440 --> 1:59:53.040 go ahead, Well, I mean that's like I watch that 1:59:53.360 --> 1:59:55.320 on most of my Delta flights. I would say I 1:59:55.320 --> 1:59:56.800 watched that a few times a year. I'm like, I 1:59:56.880 --> 1:59:58.840 love that movie. It's stood the test of time, and 1:59:58.920 --> 2:00:02.240 it's a classic that like people just love it. Never 2:00:02.680 --> 2:00:04.800 never went away, such iconic scenes. 2:00:04.800 --> 2:00:05.520 It was so good. 2:00:05.640 --> 2:00:07.280 Do you have memories that were positive? 2:00:08.040 --> 2:00:12.080 I'd imagine that it's the most watched Delta flight movie ever. 2:00:13.120 --> 2:00:16.280 It's the first one if there were Delta flight ratings. 2:00:16.720 --> 2:00:17.360 Yeah, it's the. 2:00:17.400 --> 2:00:18.560 First thing that pops up. 2:00:18.800 --> 2:00:23.680 Yeah, yeah, right, because it's a number. Well eight mile, but. 2:00:23.840 --> 2:00:26.120 No, I'm not watching eight mile in the skies. 2:00:26.360 --> 2:00:28.000 But no, it would be the first thing because it's 2:00:28.080 --> 2:00:30.840 one zero. I don't know how that works. But can 2:00:30.920 --> 2:00:33.440 numbers go in number order? I don't know how it works. 2:00:33.480 --> 2:00:37.840 But anyway, I have so many positive stories. That was 2:00:38.320 --> 2:00:41.720 just the blast of all time. You know, the the 2:00:41.880 --> 2:00:46.840 movie surpassed every one of our expectation expectations. The fact 2:00:46.880 --> 2:00:51.760 that it became as popular as it is now, you know, 2:00:51.920 --> 2:00:55.000 to this day, is really wild. I think for all 2:00:55.080 --> 2:00:58.800 of us, we didn't know we were making something that 2:00:58.880 --> 2:01:01.320 would stand the test time and really mean a lot 2:01:01.520 --> 2:01:07.440 to people. And it's a reflection, I believe, a reflection 2:01:07.640 --> 2:01:11.520 of how much we all truly loved making the movie 2:01:11.680 --> 2:01:14.280 with one another. We all loved each other very much, 2:01:14.320 --> 2:01:17.480 and I think you can see that we're having fun 2:01:17.840 --> 2:01:21.520 with each other on screen. You can see it. And 2:01:22.000 --> 2:01:25.160 I think that's what people love most about it is, 2:01:26.400 --> 2:01:28.160 you know, because I know when I watch a movie, 2:01:28.280 --> 2:01:32.120 I imagine what it's like on that set, what it 2:01:32.240 --> 2:01:34.760 might have been like. And I think people do that 2:01:34.960 --> 2:01:37.880 when they watch movies. Is they're able to separate the 2:01:38.440 --> 2:01:41.040 fantasy from the reality and go, what do these actors 2:01:41.200 --> 2:01:43.880 talk about in between takes? And you can just tell 2:01:43.960 --> 2:01:46.320 we all loved each other, And it was very true 2:01:46.720 --> 2:01:50.720 just that set was all smiles all the way through. 2:01:51.160 --> 2:01:55.480 We just as people through and through that entire cast 2:01:55.640 --> 2:01:59.520 had amazing chemistry as people. We just loved each other 2:01:59.600 --> 2:02:02.760 from moment one. We spoke the same language, all of us. 2:02:02.960 --> 2:02:04.879 So that's awesome. 2:02:05.960 --> 2:02:08.560 No, someone recently, you know, one of my dreams is 2:02:08.600 --> 2:02:11.480 to go to the Vanity Fair Oscar party mine too. 2:02:11.600 --> 2:02:15.320 By the way, they don't I don't get in last. 2:02:15.160 --> 2:02:16.040 Year when you won. 2:02:18.880 --> 2:02:21.440 That was two years ago, but two years, two years, no, 2:02:21.840 --> 2:02:27.800 I did not and they don't listen. They don't like me, okay, nobody, 2:02:27.920 --> 2:02:32.040 the industry, the industry, you know what it is. And 2:02:32.120 --> 2:02:36.240 I've come to realize I'm poor form. I am poor form. 2:02:36.360 --> 2:02:41.080 I make other actors look bad because I'm so unbelievably 2:02:41.160 --> 2:02:47.200 amazing and uh and so I'm an embarrassment. Uh I am, 2:02:47.440 --> 2:02:49.920 I'm just an embarrassing. I should not have been let in, 2:02:50.800 --> 2:02:53.080 you know, I am, I am? I am the the 2:02:53.320 --> 2:02:54.360 the the what what what? 2:02:54.480 --> 2:02:54.520 What? 2:02:54.640 --> 2:02:57.240 What would I compare myself to? You know, I must, 2:02:57.400 --> 2:02:57.720 I must. 2:02:58.040 --> 2:02:59.880 I bet you're a type though. I bet when you 2:03:00.200 --> 2:03:02.720 get auditions it's like Dave Cumholt. 2:03:02.920 --> 2:03:05.080 Oh yeah right, oh yeah, no, they want to be me. 2:03:05.360 --> 2:03:07.720 I mean, you're you wouldn't keep working if they if 2:03:07.760 --> 2:03:10.080 they really hated you and wanted you gone, you wouldn't 2:03:10.080 --> 2:03:10.880 be working so much. 2:03:10.920 --> 2:03:14.600 You work, of course, I'm kidding. Yeah, No, I don't 2:03:14.640 --> 2:03:20.360 embarrass other actors. I'm embarrassed of myself most of the time. 2:03:20.680 --> 2:03:24.240 But no, uh yeah, yeah, I don't get invited to 2:03:24.320 --> 2:03:27.240 I haven't been invited to ship. They don't want I'm 2:03:27.320 --> 2:03:29.880 like bummy. They see me and they go you know 2:03:29.960 --> 2:03:31.680 who let the Dog Out? 2:03:33.360 --> 2:03:35.400 But well, the reason I brought it up is because 2:03:35.400 --> 2:03:39.360 someone was like, and I brought up a Lissa Oax 2:03:39.640 --> 2:03:43.040 prom outfit from that movie, Like, that's still my one 2:03:43.040 --> 2:03:44.040 of my dream outfits. 2:03:44.800 --> 2:03:47.640 Yeah, and I would wear the Shakespeare outfit I wore 2:03:47.680 --> 2:03:50.240 in that movie, but no, you know what it is. Also, 2:03:50.920 --> 2:03:51.400 then you'd. 2:03:51.280 --> 2:03:52.520 Really never get invited again. 2:03:53.840 --> 2:03:56.600 I've given up on that dream. 2:03:56.680 --> 2:03:58.800 Oh yeah, I mean, but don't you feel it's like, 2:03:59.280 --> 2:04:01.160 but you're you know, you're in I. 2:04:01.200 --> 2:04:03.720 Would love to be invited. Yeah, but I also am 2:04:03.840 --> 2:04:07.840 credibly awkward at those kinds of things, and you know, 2:04:08.800 --> 2:04:13.160 but but you know, it's also absurd and it's really 2:04:13.280 --> 2:04:17.240 not why I do what I do. And but that said, 2:04:18.480 --> 2:04:21.640 is there a sting to not being invited when you're 2:04:21.720 --> 2:04:25.360 in the movie that won the Academy for Best Yeah, 2:04:25.400 --> 2:04:29.960 there's a real sting to that, you know. But as 2:04:30.000 --> 2:04:32.800 you can imagine, because I'm still talking about it. You 2:04:32.960 --> 2:04:35.000 asked me the question twenty five minutes ago, and I'm 2:04:35.040 --> 2:04:38.040 still I'm trying to say something. And what I'm trying 2:04:38.080 --> 2:04:42.480 to say is I come off, here's the problem. You 2:04:42.560 --> 2:04:45.800 want to know the truth. I don't only look like 2:04:45.880 --> 2:04:51.640 an agent's assistant. But I have an agent's assistants personality. 2:04:52.160 --> 2:04:52.520 And so. 2:04:54.240 --> 2:04:57.880 What they don't need is yet another agent's assistant at 2:04:57.960 --> 2:05:00.080 the Vanity Fair Oscars part. 2:05:00.040 --> 2:05:02.320 If an agent assistant got invited and not you, that 2:05:02.440 --> 2:05:03.400 makes all of it worse. 2:05:04.560 --> 2:05:06.960 Oh, I'm sure you think there's assistance in there. 2:05:08.360 --> 2:05:08.600 One. 2:05:08.760 --> 2:05:12.680 There's definitely some riff raft padding out those parties for sure. 2:05:13.040 --> 2:05:15.240 Not that I thought the Vanity Fair was more tight 2:05:15.360 --> 2:05:15.560 on that. 2:05:16.400 --> 2:05:21.760 Absolutely, absolutely. And here's the problem. Whenever I am invited, 2:05:21.800 --> 2:05:24.560 this is dead true, by the way, whenever I am 2:05:24.680 --> 2:05:28.760 invited to these kinds of big parties, and you know, 2:05:29.480 --> 2:05:32.400 every once in a while, you know, uh, you know, 2:05:32.480 --> 2:05:34.360 they give it the they give the dog a bone. 2:05:35.240 --> 2:05:41.840 I uh, I do feel like many of the people 2:05:42.280 --> 2:05:46.440 that are there who aren't familiar with my work readily 2:05:46.520 --> 2:05:49.440 assume that I am an agent's assistant. 2:05:49.800 --> 2:05:52.720 No, they definitely think age. 2:05:52.880 --> 2:05:58.880 I've aged. I've aged, but not a good one. There 2:05:58.920 --> 2:06:00.800 have been moments I was just saying, where I've had 2:06:00.840 --> 2:06:02.480 to tell actors that I'm an actor. 2:06:02.800 --> 2:06:05.320 Yeah, yeah, I would read. 2:06:05.160 --> 2:06:08.280 A lot of moment. Yeah, I just can't believe nobody 2:06:08.440 --> 2:06:12.320 that's like remotely around our age doesn't know you from 2:06:12.400 --> 2:06:14.880 something that you've been in because you're just in all 2:06:14.920 --> 2:06:17.600 these seminal movies from our like anyone that's like from 2:06:17.640 --> 2:06:18.960 mid thirties to mid forties. 2:06:19.000 --> 2:06:22.400 I feel, you know, I don't get it either, but 2:06:22.600 --> 2:06:24.960 I think it's more of they do know, but they 2:06:25.120 --> 2:06:25.920 choose to forget. 2:06:27.040 --> 2:06:27.960 They've blocked it out. 2:06:28.520 --> 2:06:28.960 That's right. 2:06:29.560 --> 2:06:33.000 Do you have any like other memories of like being 2:06:33.080 --> 2:06:36.879 on set at SVU like that our listeners would appreciate, 2:06:37.000 --> 2:06:39.600 like little tidbits, something funny that happened with Iced Tea, 2:06:39.760 --> 2:06:43.720 a little a little LOL moment with Marishka or Chris Maloney. 2:06:43.760 --> 2:06:45.400 I mean, you know something that our. 2:06:45.440 --> 2:06:48.160 Well, Ice, I'll just say, Ice Teas are riot. Yeah, 2:06:48.760 --> 2:06:54.880 he's brilliant. And he told me the funniest Hollywood joke, 2:06:55.000 --> 2:06:57.600 or one of the funnier, more brilliant Hollywood jokes I've 2:06:57.600 --> 2:07:01.200 ever heard. Do you want to hear it? Okay, I'm 2:07:01.240 --> 2:07:06.360 paying it forward, Ice Tee uh he Okay. So a 2:07:07.200 --> 2:07:13.480 world famous legendary film director suddenly dies, goes to heaven, 2:07:13.640 --> 2:07:16.440 meets Saint Peter at the Pearly Gates, and Saint Peter says, 2:07:16.480 --> 2:07:20.080 we are so happy to see you, and the director says, well, 2:07:20.120 --> 2:07:21.840 I'm not I'm not happy to be here. I don't 2:07:21.840 --> 2:07:24.080 I didn't want to die, you know, I died suddenly, 2:07:24.760 --> 2:07:26.920 and Saint Peter goes, we know, we know. But here's 2:07:26.960 --> 2:07:32.000 the deal. God has chosen you to direct the first 2:07:32.160 --> 2:07:36.680 movie made in Heaven. And the director is like, what, no, 2:07:37.000 --> 2:07:39.280 I don't know what. I don't want to know. I 2:07:39.280 --> 2:07:41.800 don't want to do that, and Saint Peter goes, well, 2:07:41.880 --> 2:07:45.120 hear me out, hear me out. It's written by William Shakespeare, 2:07:46.280 --> 2:07:53.080 Production design Michaelangelo. Okay, okay, it is. You have your 2:07:53.280 --> 2:07:58.920 choice of male lead Sydney Poidier, Marlon Brando or you know, 2:07:59.080 --> 2:08:03.000 Laurence Oliviy and the guy you know. The director thinks 2:08:03.000 --> 2:08:06.960 about it. He goes, holy, wow, William Shakespeare my Clangeloin, yeah, 2:08:07.360 --> 2:08:11.520 randol Wow. He goes, well, who's playing the female league? 2:08:12.360 --> 2:08:16.400 And Saint Peter says, well, God has a girlfriend. That's 2:08:16.440 --> 2:08:22.280 the joke. It's a great joke. Told me that joke, 2:08:22.720 --> 2:08:25.360 just not a joke you'd expect from from iced Tea. 2:08:25.720 --> 2:08:28.520 You know, a a rapper or a gangster. 2:08:28.680 --> 2:08:30.200 Is a girlfriend. He's trying to get her in. 2:08:31.160 --> 2:08:35.320 You get it. It's a misogynt. It's a joke about misogyny. 2:08:35.440 --> 2:08:37.760 I shouldn't make jokes. Yeah, this is this is the 2:08:37.880 --> 2:08:39.200 interview that ruins mind. 2:08:39.280 --> 2:08:42.360 No, this is great. We love this. I love that 2:08:42.680 --> 2:08:43.400 Icy gave you that. 2:08:43.680 --> 2:08:45.840 He We've heard so many great Ice cold facts that 2:08:45.920 --> 2:08:49.440 he's given different actors over the over the years, and 2:08:49.600 --> 2:08:50.600 he sees it and I just. 2:08:50.640 --> 2:08:53.560 Want to say, going back, I would have been an 2:08:53.640 --> 2:08:59.040 amazing agent. And my agents also agree, Yeah, they I 2:08:59.120 --> 2:09:01.840 would have been in a I should have been an age. 2:09:02.560 --> 2:09:04.120 Are you playing an agent in? 2:09:05.000 --> 2:09:07.280 Are you playing an agent in the studio? 2:09:07.840 --> 2:09:08.360 The Studio? 2:09:08.480 --> 2:09:10.200 Which is so good and funny. 2:09:10.280 --> 2:09:12.560 It was the role I was born. Yeah, because it's 2:09:12.600 --> 2:09:14.440 what I should be doing with my life. 2:09:16.520 --> 2:09:19.160 Well, I'm certainly happy that you were in all of 2:09:19.240 --> 2:09:22.960 these movies that I've watched my entire life. And like, 2:09:23.240 --> 2:09:25.600 I mean, so many more coming up. You have so 2:09:25.680 --> 2:09:29.960 many like people about upcoming projects. But you've got this 2:09:30.720 --> 2:09:33.880 Springsteen thing that's like, you know, everyone's talking about, and 2:09:33.960 --> 2:09:37.600 then there's any other anything else upcoming. Oh wait, you 2:09:37.680 --> 2:09:42.040 were in Miracle on seventy fourth Street. My friend Carol 2:09:43.160 --> 2:09:47.360 and Sean wrote that and I think you know produced it. 2:09:48.160 --> 2:09:48.959 Carol Hartzell. 2:09:49.840 --> 2:09:51.560 Right, yeah, they're wonderful. 2:09:51.720 --> 2:09:53.400 I know that's from stand up in New York and 2:09:53.440 --> 2:09:57.000 stuff and that I've been well, I don't know when 2:09:57.040 --> 2:09:58.919 that's coming out, but maybe this Christmas. 2:10:00.040 --> 2:10:02.320 Oh cool, that'd be amazing, right because it's holiday. I 2:10:02.400 --> 2:10:05.280 know nothing. Yeah, I don't know. It is a holiday. Yeah, yes, 2:10:05.960 --> 2:10:06.400 I don't know. 2:10:06.560 --> 2:10:07.120 But that's funny. 2:10:07.160 --> 2:10:09.840 I just saw that in your upcoming anything else you 2:10:09.920 --> 2:10:11.880 want to plug, Well, you got. 2:10:11.800 --> 2:10:14.200 The super Girl and you got this one and that one. 2:10:14.240 --> 2:10:17.640 But yeah, I I I don't. I don't know because 2:10:17.800 --> 2:10:18.440 you know, I don't. 2:10:18.560 --> 2:10:22.440 Yeah, yeah, no, I'm yeah, okay, great, great on Insta. 2:10:22.800 --> 2:10:26.520 This will not be aired anywhere, correct, this is this is. 2:10:26.600 --> 2:10:29.000 Only an No one's going to see your face. 2:10:29.120 --> 2:10:31.640 See. This is where I'm in trouble. This is bad 2:10:31.720 --> 2:10:35.160 for me, and I'll tell you why because the voice 2:10:35.640 --> 2:10:39.000 and what I say will come off as real in 2:10:39.120 --> 2:10:42.360 terms of the ego stuff. But no one will see 2:10:42.400 --> 2:10:45.320 how ashamed. No one will see the shame in my 2:10:45.480 --> 2:10:49.520 eyes that you are witnessed to at this moment. 2:10:49.640 --> 2:10:54.320 No, but listen, this has been wonderful. It's like, thank 2:10:54.360 --> 2:10:55.600 you so much for talking to us. 2:10:55.680 --> 2:10:58.720 Thank you for the Real Housewives of New Jersey tea 2:10:59.240 --> 2:11:02.120 and this so exciting and we were so happy. 2:11:02.200 --> 2:11:04.480 It was the journey that I didn't expect. 2:11:04.840 --> 2:11:09.080 I didn't have a journey, a career, reference everything, everything. 2:11:09.200 --> 2:11:11.240 Y'all are awesome, y'all are wonderful. 2:11:15.160 --> 2:11:17.280 I would say this is one of our best episodes ever. 2:11:17.960 --> 2:11:20.480 I'm gonna say it. I feel you got to do 2:11:20.600 --> 2:11:22.080 your incredible voice work. 2:11:23.920 --> 2:11:25.320 And we had to talk. 2:11:25.800 --> 2:11:29.840 He was so funny. He was like so kind of 2:11:29.960 --> 2:11:33.480 self deprecating but self away, like I don't know. It 2:11:33.600 --> 2:11:37.040 was just really like such a silly good time. And 2:11:37.200 --> 2:11:39.560 his stories. I mean, the way he talked about ten 2:11:39.600 --> 2:11:41.960 things I hate about you just makes my heart like her, 2:11:42.120 --> 2:11:44.480 like I don't know, just of course thinking about Heath Ledger, 2:11:44.640 --> 2:11:46.960 you know, but yeah, then they're all like pals. But 2:11:47.200 --> 2:11:49.720 I was telling people because I was so excited, and 2:11:49.840 --> 2:11:51.640 I was like, David Cromwolds was on today, Oh my god, 2:11:51.680 --> 2:11:52.560 we talked to today. 2:11:52.600 --> 2:11:53.240 It was so amazing. 2:11:53.640 --> 2:11:55.560 I know a lot of people don't know him by name, 2:11:55.720 --> 2:11:58.640 and then as soon as you show the face, everyone said, 2:11:58.680 --> 2:12:01.000 Santa Claus, this is a I haven't seen. I mean, 2:12:01.200 --> 2:12:04.120 everyone remembers him from Santa Claus, it was I didn't 2:12:04.240 --> 2:12:11.640 really yeah, huh. I mean for me, it's like I 2:12:11.720 --> 2:12:13.440 can't even pick a thing. I'm like, he's in so 2:12:13.560 --> 2:12:16.280 many things, you know, like yeah, in this weird show 2:12:16.320 --> 2:12:18.400 about the old woman. I mean yeah, he's like a 2:12:18.480 --> 2:12:23.000 part of yeah, my life for sure. But you know, 2:12:23.120 --> 2:12:25.280 not everyone's as psycho as us. Like some people are 2:12:25.400 --> 2:12:27.560 just more known by a face than a name. Yeah, 2:12:28.920 --> 2:12:31.400 but I don't think you'd mind. Yeah, And I don't 2:12:31.400 --> 2:12:33.480 think he should change his name. I think he should 2:12:33.560 --> 2:12:33.760 keep it. 2:12:33.960 --> 2:12:37.000 It looks good. I think it's good. Yeah, No, do 2:12:37.160 --> 2:12:38.200 not become crumb. 2:12:38.640 --> 2:12:41.960 I mean I just really enjoyed it and it made 2:12:42.080 --> 2:12:45.200 a I'm always happy to do the pod, but sometimes 2:12:45.240 --> 2:12:47.360 you just we wanted to do this episode and talk 2:12:47.400 --> 2:12:47.880 to him for so. 2:12:48.040 --> 2:12:50.640 Long that it was it just felt really good. Yeah, 2:12:50.800 --> 2:12:53.600 And he's like just like a funny It's it's nice 2:12:53.600 --> 2:12:56.040 to meet somebody who's been acting since they were like fourteen, 2:12:56.240 --> 2:12:58.320 but is like still very down to earth and like 2:12:58.480 --> 2:13:02.120 self deprecating and like funny. He's like not like on 2:13:02.360 --> 2:13:04.720 some shit like he's more important than other people and 2:13:05.000 --> 2:13:06.280 like not that we talk to a lot of people 2:13:06.360 --> 2:13:08.480 like that, but he's just like, uh no, I don't. 2:13:08.320 --> 2:13:09.560 Think they would do the podcast. 2:13:10.040 --> 2:13:14.160 Yeah, I just feel like we can hang out with 2:13:14.240 --> 2:13:15.760 him at a party and he would be fun, you know, 2:13:15.960 --> 2:13:18.240 like I could have talked to him for like truly 2:13:18.280 --> 2:13:19.960 another hour. I know we say that all the time, 2:13:20.040 --> 2:13:24.360 but I really mean it with him. But this episode, 2:13:24.880 --> 2:13:29.720 we I mean, it's so great. We start out with 2:13:29.880 --> 2:13:34.640 a CSU tech who cannot fucking who has who has 2:13:34.760 --> 2:13:40.280 no kouth, and we end up with a grandmother callously 2:13:40.400 --> 2:13:43.040 taking back her ententaglia necklace. I mean this episode, and 2:13:43.120 --> 2:13:45.720 in the middle we just have Benson Benson having a 2:13:45.800 --> 2:13:48.800 mushroom attack and Stabler feigning a mushroom attack. I don't 2:13:48.840 --> 2:13:53.200 know what our post mortem takeaways are, keep your don't 2:13:53.280 --> 2:13:55.880 breathe in deeply when you're around a pot in some 2:13:56.440 --> 2:13:58.440 mushroom man's thing. 2:13:58.560 --> 2:14:01.320 Well, and that men are rapist even if it's consensual, 2:14:01.360 --> 2:14:02.920 because at the end of the day, that dude up 2:14:03.040 --> 2:14:05.040 top was like she wanted it, and it's like she 2:14:05.160 --> 2:14:06.920 looks like an alien and you could tell she's under 2:14:06.960 --> 2:14:09.120 the influence, Like, yeah, you fucked her in a fountain 2:14:09.160 --> 2:14:11.560 and you still left her to drown and die in there, 2:14:11.800 --> 2:14:14.600 Like right, the fact that that's not criminal at all 2:14:14.840 --> 2:14:17.520 and it's totally fine and he gets to leave, but 2:14:18.520 --> 2:14:22.760 truly disgusting, Like the bar for legality is so hot, 2:14:22.960 --> 2:14:27.000 like you could, Yeah, she clearly is under the influence. 2:14:27.760 --> 2:14:29.600 And then it took us down like a road of 2:14:29.960 --> 2:14:34.160 that intelligence he left, ye, this pond while negligence. Then 2:14:34.200 --> 2:14:37.000 we go to a road of sugary sodas. We go 2:14:37.080 --> 2:14:39.240 down that road, the road of sugary of like two 2:14:39.280 --> 2:14:42.560 sugary sodas, and then we're back. So now we're talking 2:14:42.600 --> 2:14:45.920 about corporate greed and then it's like but really, in 2:14:46.000 --> 2:14:49.160 the end, it's just like a poor girl who lost 2:14:49.240 --> 2:14:52.560 her mom and is looking for family in a mean 2:14:52.640 --> 2:14:57.280 old lady. And I guess takeaway should be quit looking 2:14:57.480 --> 2:15:00.960 for find your family outside of your family sometimes, because 2:15:01.000 --> 2:15:03.680 that woman was a mean old bitch and she was 2:15:03.760 --> 2:15:05.960 never gonna You were never gonna be what she like. 2:15:06.320 --> 2:15:09.120 You know, you're never gonna be Lindsay. Lindsay was a. 2:15:11.080 --> 2:15:15.240 Ex speedhead too, Yeah yeah, so yeah, I don't know. 2:15:15.600 --> 2:15:17.400 She just seemed like she was never willing to give 2:15:17.440 --> 2:15:19.839 Emma a chance on that was flirting. 2:15:20.160 --> 2:15:23.840 I like that, iced t Na Michael, both as their 2:15:23.920 --> 2:15:26.640 characters wanted a fuck Paula Patten so bad. 2:15:27.200 --> 2:15:31.320 And there was full flirting like there was. Yeah, it was. 2:15:31.680 --> 2:15:33.080 It was a good one. 2:15:33.200 --> 2:15:35.960 It's a good episode and I know we've done it 2:15:36.040 --> 2:15:38.120 on the road, so hopefully if you've seen us do 2:15:38.200 --> 2:15:41.480 it on the road, you enjoyed our recap with the 2:15:41.600 --> 2:15:42.960 David Crumholtz chaser. 2:15:44.280 --> 2:15:47.120 Well, I'm on the IMDb for we and the main 2:15:47.280 --> 2:15:50.760 photo from it is the Kouchi Ku medical examiner. 2:15:51.400 --> 2:15:55.080 Yeah, that woman hits her face kind of like they 2:15:55.120 --> 2:15:57.040 never have her back. I think they're like, this is 2:15:57.080 --> 2:15:58.880 too stucky adjacent, like we can't. 2:15:59.160 --> 2:16:02.200 Oh yeah it was, but also obviously reminds me of 2:16:02.760 --> 2:16:05.680 the New Dexter is like so good. I'm like, I 2:16:05.720 --> 2:16:07.440 don't know if I'm i don't know if I'm just 2:16:07.520 --> 2:16:09.400 such a big fan that I'm like delusional. 2:16:09.520 --> 2:16:12.440 Maybe it's not good, but I love it. I'm LoVa, Wait, 2:16:12.520 --> 2:16:13.600 what do you mean what do you mean by the 2:16:13.680 --> 2:16:15.680 New Dexter? Is this the the Is this a new 2:16:15.760 --> 2:16:19.120 season of the prequel show? Where the prequel? So that's 2:16:19.160 --> 2:16:19.680 what's crazy. 2:16:19.760 --> 2:16:22.920 So Dexter original eight seasons, then it came back with 2:16:23.160 --> 2:16:26.240 New Blood. It was, which I liked, Yeah, which I 2:16:26.360 --> 2:16:28.840 really liked then. It was this prequel that I didn't want. 2:16:29.000 --> 2:16:31.080 I've tried watching, I'll watch it on you, but I 2:16:31.120 --> 2:16:31.680 didn't like it. 2:16:32.280 --> 2:16:35.560 This is a continuation of New Blood and it's called Resurrection. 2:16:36.360 --> 2:16:39.280 Oh. No, one told me that was happening. Oh, Kara, 2:16:39.480 --> 2:16:43.240 it's in New York City. Oh, I'm excited. And can 2:16:43.280 --> 2:16:46.840 I tell you the cast? Yes, Uma Thurman's in it, 2:16:47.400 --> 2:16:50.400 cam from Modern Family is in it, Kristin Ritters in it, 2:16:50.840 --> 2:16:54.480 Neil Patrick Harris is in it, and Tyrian Lanister, what 2:16:54.560 --> 2:16:57.920 the fun? Peter Dinklic is in it? Oh yeah, and 2:16:58.120 --> 2:17:01.119 Derek for Musa Guests of Our Pot and Dominic. 2:17:01.400 --> 2:17:04.200 Yeah, oh Dominic. I knew it was wrong. I kept 2:17:04.240 --> 2:17:07.200 telling people. I'm like Derek from I knew something was up. Yeah, 2:17:07.240 --> 2:17:08.199 Dominic for Musa. 2:17:09.640 --> 2:17:16.280 But it's Dexter, It's Harrison Bautista's in it, and it's 2:17:17.000 --> 2:17:17.600 York City. 2:17:18.120 --> 2:17:19.160 Is Dexter the ghost? 2:17:19.240 --> 2:17:19.400 Now? 2:17:20.280 --> 2:17:23.240 No, it's it was in a coma. They just kept 2:17:23.320 --> 2:17:27.400 the coma. It's fine. I don't care, Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. No, 2:17:27.720 --> 2:17:30.359 I'm fine with it. He woke up from a coma. 2:17:30.480 --> 2:17:33.640 He's not really dead. It's whatever. It's far fetched. I 2:17:33.640 --> 2:17:36.840 don't get so I don't care. It's fine if Michael C. 2:17:37.000 --> 2:17:39.039 Hall was down to do it again, like, that's fine. 2:17:39.120 --> 2:17:42.040 And who's our former guests that I met on a flight? 2:17:42.200 --> 2:17:45.960 Who's married to Game of Thrown, Mark Machaka, he's also 2:17:46.080 --> 2:17:49.400 in it? Okay, our buddy Mark, friend of the pod, 2:17:49.600 --> 2:17:50.560 two friends of the Pod. 2:17:50.800 --> 2:17:54.080 Yeah, it's really awesome. I think they're on only four 2:17:54.160 --> 2:17:55.840 episodes so far, four or five episodes? 2:17:55.920 --> 2:17:56.120 Wait? 2:17:56.360 --> 2:17:59.560 Shit, did you have to get the showtime add on 2:17:59.680 --> 2:18:01.800 to Waking. 2:18:00.879 --> 2:18:03.080 Well, it's not showtim anymore. It's Paramount plus. But I 2:18:03.200 --> 2:18:04.600 have the Paramount Plus. I'm sorry. 2:18:04.640 --> 2:18:07.240 I know we haven't even talked about Colbert south Park. 2:18:07.680 --> 2:18:08.080 Thank god. 2:18:08.120 --> 2:18:10.160 Well if people are like my friends be like, how 2:18:10.240 --> 2:18:12.040 do you watch the South Park? I go, well, I 2:18:12.160 --> 2:18:15.680 have Paramount plus so unfortunately, well I do want to 2:18:15.760 --> 2:18:16.240 cancel it. 2:18:16.600 --> 2:18:19.720 Fuck yeah, Colbert whatever, but like I'm watching Dexter in 2:18:19.760 --> 2:18:20.240 south Park. 2:18:20.280 --> 2:18:23.200 Sorry, guys, I had already canceled mine because I was 2:18:23.240 --> 2:18:27.440 done with Yellow Jackets, which we have to review another time. 2:18:27.600 --> 2:18:29.080 I mean, I don't know if we've talked about it, right, 2:18:29.120 --> 2:18:31.440 but I thought it was better than this, you know what. 2:18:31.600 --> 2:18:32.200 I was reading. 2:18:32.280 --> 2:18:34.280 What Vulture said is like they had to make like 2:18:34.520 --> 2:18:38.240 they had everything planned and then Juliet Lewis wanted to leave, 2:18:39.080 --> 2:18:41.560 So it's like we really, like I want they had 2:18:41.640 --> 2:18:44.560 to re purpose everything. 2:18:44.120 --> 2:18:45.640 They get it back on track, and I do feel 2:18:45.640 --> 2:18:48.240 like they got it back on track. I do, Am 2:18:48.280 --> 2:18:50.320 I wrong? You don't feel that way? 2:18:50.520 --> 2:18:54.440 I don't know, I. 2:18:55.920 --> 2:18:56.360 I am. 2:18:56.640 --> 2:18:58.720 I like where things were going in the wilderness, but 2:18:58.840 --> 2:19:01.240 I still think what's happening in real life is fucking 2:19:01.400 --> 2:19:05.280 off the like wild and like not justified all the time. 2:19:05.680 --> 2:19:08.760 But we we should talk about this. Maybe this is 2:19:08.800 --> 2:19:11.000 a tease. Maybe this is another tease for the next intro. 2:19:11.240 --> 2:19:13.160 Listen. We can't. We just can't. This can't be a 2:19:13.160 --> 2:19:14.039 six hour episode. 2:19:14.400 --> 2:19:18.240 But uh, I'm going to totally I don't know what 2:19:18.320 --> 2:19:20.680 I'm gonna do about getting Paramount plus back now so 2:19:20.720 --> 2:19:21.640 that I can watch this dexter. 2:19:21.720 --> 2:19:22.840 I'll figure it out. I'll figure it out. 2:19:22.920 --> 2:19:24.400 Well, you don't have to do fully, you could just 2:19:24.440 --> 2:19:27.039 add an extension on Amazon for the month, like wait 2:19:27.080 --> 2:19:29.039 till that's. 2:19:28.959 --> 2:19:29.400 What I did. 2:19:29.560 --> 2:19:32.080 Yeah, that's what I did with my Paramount Because South 2:19:32.120 --> 2:19:34.200 Park's only going to be I think ten episodes too. 2:19:34.400 --> 2:19:38.360 So it's like, that's ten and then Dexter will probably 2:19:38.360 --> 2:19:42.000 be ten. Yeah, Uma, Thurman, that's that's a list that's 2:19:42.080 --> 2:19:45.280 pretty killer. Yeah yeah, not to be make a pun. 2:19:45.560 --> 2:19:49.320 Yeah, I didn't even mean to do that, but okay, 2:19:49.440 --> 2:19:51.440 let's move on to our what would Sister Peg Do? 2:19:52.320 --> 2:19:53.880 And you guys know that What would Mister Peg Do 2:19:54.040 --> 2:19:56.440 is our weekly segment where we direct you towards like 2:19:56.879 --> 2:19:59.920 usually a resource like a book or an article or 2:20:00.040 --> 2:20:02.080 or an organization that will give you more information about 2:20:02.120 --> 2:20:03.960 what we talked about in today's episode. But I think 2:20:04.040 --> 2:20:07.200 you're all doing pretty okay with staying away from Mushroom Labs. 2:20:07.600 --> 2:20:11.520 So we are going to use this opportunity to direct 2:20:11.560 --> 2:20:15.480 you towards blah blah blah blah teacher wish lists. Every 2:20:15.560 --> 2:20:19.160 year we at that's messed up. We will share the 2:20:19.320 --> 2:20:23.680 wish lists of the listeners of our show who are teachers, 2:20:23.760 --> 2:20:27.200 of which there are many. There is a highlight on 2:20:27.360 --> 2:20:30.400 our Instagram page called teachers that shows you exactly what 2:20:30.480 --> 2:20:32.600 you have to do in order to make the post 2:20:32.800 --> 2:20:35.240 and share it and so that I am able to 2:20:35.320 --> 2:20:37.840 share it to our listeners. But I am also this 2:20:38.040 --> 2:20:40.600 year going to keep track of all of them in 2:20:40.720 --> 2:20:43.840 a Google sheet, which is will be linked to in 2:20:43.959 --> 2:20:46.720 our show notes, and so you can if you're not 2:20:46.800 --> 2:20:49.920 an Instagram user or it's easier for you to just 2:20:50.040 --> 2:20:51.680 go to this Google sheet that'll be linked in our 2:20:51.680 --> 2:20:55.040 show notes and I'll make a story linking to that 2:20:55.120 --> 2:20:57.920 Google sheet as well. So if you have the means 2:20:58.040 --> 2:21:01.720 and you want to, just like maybe every week from 2:21:01.840 --> 2:21:04.840 now until school starts, you just throw a pack of 2:21:05.000 --> 2:21:06.560 post its at one of the teachers. You know what 2:21:06.640 --> 2:21:09.400 I mean, Like, if everybody just gives like one little thing, 2:21:10.120 --> 2:21:12.400 it fucking sucks that we live in a country where 2:21:13.080 --> 2:21:17.920 our governments is trying to end the Department of Education 2:21:18.200 --> 2:21:23.720 rying but teacher, you can get money for your concentration camps, 2:21:24.160 --> 2:21:26.880 but these teachers need money for their school classrooms. So 2:21:26.959 --> 2:21:28.960 we always love to support teachers. So that is this 2:21:29.040 --> 2:21:32.600 week's WWSPD. So that will be in our show notes 2:21:32.720 --> 2:21:37.080 and posted, and you can feel free to tag us 2:21:37.240 --> 2:21:39.879 in your wishless and we will share them and hopefully 2:21:39.959 --> 2:21:43.920 the That's Messed Up Hive will rise up and support 2:21:44.000 --> 2:21:47.120 some of the teachers in our midst Thank you. 2:21:47.200 --> 2:21:49.000 I think this is the first time I've ever interrupted 2:21:49.080 --> 2:21:50.800 you during what would sister peg. 2:21:51.080 --> 2:21:54.240 But always new times. We can always find new times 2:21:54.240 --> 2:22:03.440 to interrupt. I saw a post online that was like, oh, 2:22:03.520 --> 2:22:05.360 how are you funny? Have you seen these? Like oh, 2:22:05.440 --> 2:22:06.400 how are you so funny? 2:22:06.520 --> 2:22:08.880 And yeah, and it was like, well, my desk was 2:22:09.000 --> 2:22:11.360 put outside the classroom when I was young, and that 2:22:11.560 --> 2:22:13.840 did happen to me in fifth grade. I had to 2:22:13.879 --> 2:22:15.879 post it on my desk and every time I interrupted 2:22:15.920 --> 2:22:17.640 the teacher, I had to do a tally mark, and 2:22:17.680 --> 2:22:20.160 when I got to ten, I was kicked out and I'd. 2:22:20.000 --> 2:22:21.560 Have to spend the rest of the day in the hall. 2:22:22.320 --> 2:22:23.320 Oh my god. 2:22:23.600 --> 2:22:26.120 That a true problem. It truly is a problem. I 2:22:26.160 --> 2:22:28.080 don't think they do that kind of shaming anymore. I 2:22:28.200 --> 2:22:28.520 hope not. 2:22:28.760 --> 2:22:30.880 I hope not. Teachers let us know. Well, now i'd 2:22:30.920 --> 2:22:31.520 be medicated. 2:22:31.600 --> 2:22:32.039 I think. 2:22:33.640 --> 2:22:35.680 If it was today, I think I'd be medicated. I 2:22:35.920 --> 2:22:38.800 really because I didn't I didn't even have the patience 2:22:38.840 --> 2:22:41.600 too scantron tests. I would I would just I would 2:22:41.640 --> 2:22:42.960 just fill out the answers and be like I want 2:22:42.959 --> 2:22:44.760 to go outside, like I didn't care. I didn't have 2:22:45.120 --> 2:22:46.840 I didn't have the focus or anything like. I think 2:22:46.840 --> 2:22:48.879 I'd be medicated if it was now or I didn't 2:22:48.879 --> 2:22:52.680 have immigrant parents. I had been medicated. But anyways, next 2:22:52.760 --> 2:22:56.320 week we will be doing shock Collar. Sounds like a 2:22:56.360 --> 2:22:57.280 fun hip hop song. 2:22:57.520 --> 2:22:58.560 Not, it's not. 2:22:58.920 --> 2:23:03.400 It's a disase from season twenty six, episode twenty. It's current, 2:23:03.520 --> 2:23:05.880 so you can only watch it on peacock or like 2:23:06.000 --> 2:23:08.680 your DVR, so do not go to even the peacock 2:23:08.800 --> 2:23:11.840 I have. It was making me upgrade to another another 2:23:12.440 --> 2:23:13.240 tier to watch it. 2:23:13.320 --> 2:23:13.880 So what I did did? 2:23:13.920 --> 2:23:16.120 I watch it at NBC dot com with commercials. So 2:23:16.200 --> 2:23:17.959 if you want to watch it for free, it's at 2:23:18.040 --> 2:23:21.880 NBC dot com with commercials. Oh wow, that's yeah, cool 2:23:21.959 --> 2:23:24.880 to hear. All right, So yeah, that's next week. We 2:23:25.000 --> 2:23:28.240 thank you all for listening. We're so happy to be 2:23:28.280 --> 2:23:31.320 out of the time machine a while journey for sure. Yeah, 2:23:31.840 --> 2:23:35.080 and we'll see you at our live show. 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