1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: You fought, we know, oh yeah, definitely, who's someone that 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:03,960 Speaker 1: you knew you were gonna probably fight? 3 00:00:04,160 --> 00:00:07,000 Speaker 2: Cone off the field and Antonio Smith full ninja kicks 4 00:00:07,040 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 2: me like on the back of the legs and I 5 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,320 Speaker 2: go down on the field and he gets a penalty flag, 6 00:00:10,360 --> 00:00:10,640 Speaker 2: but I. 7 00:00:10,640 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 3: Think he took my helmet off and swung it at 8 00:00:12,360 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 3: me one time. Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman. 9 00:00:17,040 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: They're Jack and Kyler, and we're on the mission to 10 00:00:20,280 --> 00:00:23,520 Speaker 1: find the greatest game of all time. On today's episode, 11 00:00:23,520 --> 00:00:26,920 Speaker 1: we are covering the twenty nineteen Week five London game 12 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 1: between the Oakland Raiders and the Chicago Bears with fifteen 13 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:34,840 Speaker 1: year NFL VET, four time pro bowler and a beast 14 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,600 Speaker 1: of an O lineman Ritchie and Gagnado, and we're talking 15 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 1: what it's like blocking Vince will Ford. 16 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:44,680 Speaker 2: When we played the Pats, they always put big vents 17 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 2: on me. Yeah, and me and big Vince Man, we 18 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 2: used to go at it. 19 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:51,960 Speaker 1: Bill's Mafia versus Raiders Nation. Are their differences. They're both 20 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: probably insane to play. 21 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:54,400 Speaker 3: For Bill's Mafia. You know. 22 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 2: I used to love the videos them going through tables 23 00:00:56,600 --> 00:00:59,000 Speaker 2: and lighting themselves on fire and when they get the 24 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 2: Raiders and they're so he goes. 25 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 3: I mean these people neck tattoos, prison tattoos. 26 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: You know, we always joke like, hey, if you gotta 27 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: go do some badge, but you're gonna call your cousin 28 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: that's a Raiders fan because he's got your back. 29 00:01:09,720 --> 00:01:15,280 Speaker 1: And Richie's relationship with the refs, the refs, all the 30 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: refs come, and then we wrap it up with hitting 31 00:01:17,800 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: the old hot Line. Absolutely crazy, so fun. Can't wait 32 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: for you guys to listen. 33 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 3: Let's go. Let's go. Games with Names is a production 34 00:01:27,200 --> 00:01:31,319 Speaker 3: of iHeartRadio. So you guys know what's coming up. 35 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 4: Sure, a lot of stress and anxiety. 36 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 3: Clear the schedule. August thirtieth, Baby, August thirtieth. We just 37 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 3: touched down here in Boston. I just you know, it's 38 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:47,480 Speaker 3: nothing like summer in New England. Humidity, humid, beautiful. Got 39 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 3: me a tasty burger right off the train from Manhattan. 40 00:01:50,800 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 3: Let's go, and it just reminded me that we're here 41 00:01:54,160 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 3: for one reason and one reason only. That's the fucking 42 00:01:57,680 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 3: rock the socks off the people at the will. August thirtieth, 43 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: This Friday sold out. 44 00:02:05,280 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 4: We got guests, we got games, we got new merch merger. 45 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,519 Speaker 3: God, we're taking by the boys, design personally, by the 46 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 3: we designed it. 47 00:02:13,760 --> 00:02:15,640 Speaker 5: If you guys don't sell out that merch tint, I'll 48 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:16,600 Speaker 5: be waiting for you in the alley. 49 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: There's gonna be some they it'll be sold out. 50 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 4: It will be ordered a lot. Hey also love merch. 51 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,760 Speaker 4: Wednesday Night, adults taking taking over Boston Wednesday Night. Thrown 52 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 4: out the first pitch. 53 00:02:26,560 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: Wednesday Night, we're throwing out the first pitch well BP, 54 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: taking some bad in practice, taking some batting practice. 55 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:33,079 Speaker 4: What's the over under you going out? 56 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: I don't know. I haven't swing a bat in seven years. 57 00:02:36,160 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 5: No way, it's been that long. 58 00:02:37,120 --> 00:02:38,760 Speaker 3: It's been a long time since I took VP. The 59 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,960 Speaker 3: last time hit then, I think I hit like five 60 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:43,480 Speaker 3: or six. 61 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:44,960 Speaker 4: Okay, so maybe two. 62 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:46,200 Speaker 3: I hope. 63 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 6: Hitter. 64 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 3: Let's go back. I got it, hopefully I put one 65 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:51,679 Speaker 3: out in the pike. O. 66 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 5: Easy money, bro, Easy money bro. Somebody's getting a souvenir. 67 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 4: You need to hit up Old Belco to do that. 68 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 3: Put one over at that Loco talking about Victor. 69 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 4: Victor all right, we're super excited to see you guys. 70 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 4: It's gonna be an awesome time. Can't wait we. 71 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,760 Speaker 3: Gotta get him on the show. Victor content, I have to, 72 00:03:11,520 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 3: but I will to leave that. Let's talk about this 73 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 3: live show. It's it's coming out. We can't wait. Let's go. 74 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,079 Speaker 1: It's gonna be fun, energetic night. It will be a 75 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: lot of familiar faces. It'll just it's just gonna be 76 00:03:23,600 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: a fun, fun night. 77 00:03:24,800 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 4: Can't wait. 78 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 5: Take over the wilbur We're gonna have that thing rocking. 79 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 5: Can't wait, early show, late show, but to burn it down. Baby, 80 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:31,680 Speaker 5: all right, let's go. 81 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 3: Octobus six, twenty nineteen Touttenham Hotspurs Stadium, London, England. The 82 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,240 Speaker 3: Raiders are having a crack at the bears across the pond. 83 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 3: Grab your bullocks. 84 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 1: This is gonna be a proper bully who this is 85 00:03:50,280 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 1: week five, baby, let's go. Hell ya oh man, this 86 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: is a pro Cornhusker podcast. You know I played with 87 00:04:05,760 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: one of he didn't go to Nebraska, but he's from Nebraska. 88 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:14,040 Speaker 3: Woodhead, Oh yeah, Saturn State. Yea little Woody Woody. 89 00:04:14,160 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 6: Yeah. 90 00:04:14,360 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 3: He was a hell of a player. Man. He always 91 00:04:16,040 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 3: talked about Nebraska. Yeah. 92 00:04:18,400 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 1: I mean when when we were kids, Like when I 93 00:04:20,520 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: was a kid, Nebraska that was. 94 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:23,920 Speaker 3: Like we were good. I mean we were good. 95 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 2: I mean I got there in oh one and we 96 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: were national champs ninety four, ninety five, ninety seven, and 97 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 2: then I got there in two thousand and one. My 98 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: freshman year, we played in the Rose Bowl against Miami 99 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 2: for the national championship. Yeah, I had an okay year. 100 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 2: The next year three went seven and seven. Then we 101 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:39,640 Speaker 2: go ten to two and they fire everybody, all the 102 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 2: coaches who had been there. I remember that twenty thirty 103 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 2: years and the program really hasn't been the same since. 104 00:04:44,880 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 3: They always had a quarterback named Martinez. I feel like 105 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:50,279 Speaker 3: they've had like three. We had a couple of I love. 106 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:55,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Crouch was the man, dude, He's He's one of 107 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 2: the fastest people I've ever seen, getting up the top 108 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 2: feet on that option. 109 00:04:58,839 --> 00:05:02,800 Speaker 3: Well, welcome to games with names, Rich, Thank you brother. 110 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: Today we are discussing the Bears versus Raiders London game 111 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: Week five in twenty nineteen. 112 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 3: Let's go in one sentence. Can you explain to us 113 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:16,400 Speaker 3: why you picked this game? 114 00:05:16,920 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 2: This is this is a special game for me because 115 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:21,360 Speaker 2: the Bears were coming in hot, their defense was playing 116 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 2: really well that year. There's a lot of talk, you know, 117 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:26,240 Speaker 2: the best defense since eighty five Bears. 118 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:27,400 Speaker 3: At Khalil Mackadie Goldman. 119 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 2: They had a couple stud linebackers, and you know, Gruden 120 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:32,760 Speaker 2: did a really good job building teams up and like 121 00:05:32,760 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 2: getting us ready to go. 122 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: So all week he's talking about the Bears and the 123 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 3: Raiders in London. We were there all week. 124 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 2: We came out and we set the tone early and 125 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 2: we just we just laid on them. We just we 126 00:05:43,120 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 2: we kept hitting them, kept hitting them, keet hitting them. 127 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: We were up. 128 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: They came back and then we went on a long 129 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 2: fourth quarter drive to ice it. So we went all 130 00:05:52,040 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 2: the way down the field, running the ball with Josh 131 00:05:53,560 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 2: Shacobs put in the end zone. 132 00:05:54,720 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 3: Got the win. 133 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 1: So play with Saint Louis, play with the Bills, which 134 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:01,559 Speaker 1: I played you a bunch of yt yep. 135 00:06:02,240 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: Went to the Raiders. Dolphins played you in the Dolphinstons. 136 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, and you pick a Week five, twenty 137 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: nineteen Raiders game. This was awesome, man, I mean this 138 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:13,520 Speaker 3: is awesome. 139 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 2: I made I made a bunch of blocks in this 140 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 2: game that really just opened things up. Like we were 141 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 2: down on the goal line, We're backed up and the 142 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 2: whole line slants one way. 143 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 3: I get up to the back or I blast the blacker, I. 144 00:06:23,560 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 2: Get, I get the the free safety and we're just 145 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: running the ball. And I love run game. I love 146 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 2: the run game. I love grinding up, and I love 147 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,279 Speaker 2: playing with Josh Jacobs. I think Josh Jacobs has a 148 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 2: really unique feel on how to run his own game. 149 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and he's just a beast, dude. 150 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,360 Speaker 2: You give him that ball, like he runs with bad intentions, 151 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:39,920 Speaker 2: like he's going out there fuck people up. 152 00:06:40,000 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 153 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know I always say that with you 154 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: know on on you know, the Kickoff show on Fox. 155 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: I tell like I tell everyone because I was always 156 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: like close with the lineman even when we were training. 157 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: We'll get into that. But like lineman love going forward. 158 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:58,360 Speaker 1: No one wants to sit back and let a fucking 159 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,279 Speaker 1: three hundred and ten pound fucking guy do all these 160 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:03,000 Speaker 1: moves on them and you got to just sit back 161 00:07:03,040 --> 00:07:06,080 Speaker 1: and fucking shield them off. These guys like going forward 162 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: and hitting. And you know that that was definitely displayed 163 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 1: in this game. We'll get into that. What are you 164 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: doing right now? So I'm still close to the Raiders. 165 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:15,280 Speaker 1: I still do a bunch of work with the Raiders. 166 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 1: I go back to all the home games I'm around 167 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: the team. I was down in camp with them for 168 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,720 Speaker 1: two weeks coaching the boys up, so, you know, pretty 169 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: much back and forth with. 170 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,120 Speaker 3: The Raiders back home in Arizona. 171 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 2: I trained my guys in the offseason down to Exos, 172 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: getting a couple offensive lineman in and that's it, man, 173 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 2: Just staying close to the game, playing a ton of golf, 174 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 2: hanging out. 175 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 3: We're out enjoying life. 176 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: Where what are you coaching when you're there? Are you 177 00:07:37,240 --> 00:07:41,280 Speaker 1: sitting down with just a lineman? Are you consulting them? 178 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: Are you watching film with them? Or are they do 179 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: they have you on the field helping running like drills 180 00:07:46,720 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: and shit? 181 00:07:47,000 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 3: What are you doing there? 182 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:51,160 Speaker 2: So this year Antonio new head coach, you know, he's 183 00:07:51,160 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: a great former player, gets it. He had me come 184 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 2: down and talk to the guys the night before Pats 185 00:07:55,640 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 2: and I got. 186 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:56,600 Speaker 3: The boys going. 187 00:07:56,640 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 2: I got them riled up, like I had a great, 188 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: like ten to fifteen minute chat with them. 189 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: You know, what's the chat? Can we get an abridged 190 00:08:02,440 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 1: version of the chat? Give us the highlights of that 191 00:08:04,080 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 1: chat real quick? 192 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 3: You know. 193 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 2: Basically, you know the these these opportunities present them, these 194 00:08:08,200 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: opportunities in life, you have to make the most of them. 195 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 2: And it's the first day in pads and you're going 196 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,960 Speaker 2: out there and you're sharpening your mind, you're sharpening your body. 197 00:08:15,240 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 2: You know, everybody wants to talk about mentally tough. That's 198 00:08:17,440 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 2: when you get tough. Those practices right there, that strain 199 00:08:20,520 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 2: that you feel in those training camp practices, that's what's 200 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 2: going to show up in the fourth quarter, in week five, 201 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 2: that's what's going to show up in the season. So 202 00:08:27,880 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 2: you know, talk to him about, you know, the strain 203 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: and the physicality of the game, and talk to him about, 204 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 2: you know, coming together as a team. You know, it's 205 00:08:33,600 --> 00:08:36,240 Speaker 2: really kind of there's a couple veterans that have been there, 206 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,000 Speaker 2: but for the most part, it's a lot of new faces. 207 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 3: So keep coming together, keep building. 208 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 2: And then you know, just had some good one liners 209 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,560 Speaker 2: like kill or be killed, hit everything moving, you know, 210 00:08:44,679 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 2: let's fucking go, like get these guys going. 211 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,000 Speaker 3: So it was good. 212 00:08:48,040 --> 00:08:49,040 Speaker 2: And then when they were out on the field, I 213 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 2: was working with offensive lineman, you know, just breaking the 214 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 2: game down. You know, I kind of see the game 215 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 2: in a very detailed way, and so guy make a mistake, 216 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:57,560 Speaker 2: pull them over the side, Hey do this this this 217 00:08:57,760 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 2: you know, get some guys cleaned up. We got some 218 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: young young offensive lineman. We got some some rookies that 219 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 2: need to step up and play for us. So you know, 220 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:08,400 Speaker 2: really leaning on them, watching film, you know, sharing my notes, 221 00:09:09,320 --> 00:09:11,319 Speaker 2: just trying to you know, help them improve. 222 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:13,960 Speaker 3: You know, day to day are you staff means no, no, 223 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 3: thank god. 224 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 4: No. 225 00:09:14,760 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 3: Staff means no, no, no no. Now you talked about 226 00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 3: Antonio Pierce. I got to go. 227 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: You know, I was over at their training camp last 228 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,600 Speaker 1: year with McDaniels and I got to hang out with 229 00:09:23,640 --> 00:09:25,880 Speaker 1: all the coaches and Antonio was there. He seems like 230 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,440 Speaker 1: a sharp dude, and like you said, former player, he 231 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:28,880 Speaker 1: gets it. 232 00:09:29,559 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 3: What's your take on him right now? 233 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 1: When you've been in the moment or you've been in 234 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:36,840 Speaker 1: the building, you've seen how he's addressed the team. Now 235 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 1: he's not you know, he's not the intern coach no more. 236 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: There's a different pressure that he has to deal with, Like, 237 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: all right, we don't have that you know, fire coach 238 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:49,679 Speaker 1: bump of excitement or energy that you know a lot 239 00:09:49,679 --> 00:09:51,920 Speaker 1: of these teams have when a coach gets fired, they 240 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: start playing hard things all the ship that they needed 241 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 1: to do with that fire coach. 242 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:57,320 Speaker 3: They never did, but then. 243 00:09:57,080 --> 00:09:59,559 Speaker 1: All of a sudden it happens. How do you think 244 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 1: he's gonna do this first year? How's he looking out there? 245 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:03,959 Speaker 1: I think he's done a tremendous job. I think I 246 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: think he knows. He's he's kind of learning how to 247 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: be a head coach on the fly. 248 00:10:06,960 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, he has got Coughlin over there, and 249 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: he's got some good days. 250 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 2: He's got Coughlin, Marvin Lewis, Joe Phillimon, Old Dolphins head coach, 251 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: a couple other guys, and he really leans on those guys, 252 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,280 Speaker 2: like he leans on those guys for practice and you know, 253 00:10:19,320 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 2: how to get the team going and the schedule. 254 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 3: You know, it's being the headman. It's such a hard job. 255 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 2: You know, it's like being the CEO of a fortune 256 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: five hundred company and half your employees are freaking crazy. 257 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:28,720 Speaker 6: You know. 258 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 2: So it's it's one of those things where I think 259 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:33,679 Speaker 2: he's learning. I think he really relates to the players. 260 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 2: You know, after the last coaching regime, your boys, you know, 261 00:10:37,720 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: after that all kind of cleared out. 262 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 3: They they came together. You know, they had no choice. 263 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 2: They they had kind of felt a certain way about 264 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,040 Speaker 2: how they were approaching work. And how they were approaching practice, 265 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 2: and then it was like boom, flip a switch, like 266 00:10:50,400 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 2: let's go, We're back to being Raiders and playing about passion. 267 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: So I think he's really good at he's embracing the 268 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 2: Raiders culture, he's embracing the veterans that are there, and 269 00:10:58,320 --> 00:11:00,960 Speaker 2: they're building. I mean, you know, the Uh, it's gonna 270 00:11:00,960 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: be an interesting first year see where they're at. You know, 271 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 2: when you're going into the season with the quarterback competition, 272 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 2: there's a lot of questions in the air. So I 273 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: think once they get that quarterback competition, settle down, figure out, 274 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,320 Speaker 2: you know, who's gonna be the guy calling the plays. 275 00:11:11,800 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: I think then you know, they could start formula their 276 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 3: identity O'Connell in uh, what's mince humania. You know, it's 277 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 3: been up and down, it really has. 278 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 2: You know, during camp, Uh, you know, one guy would 279 00:11:26,360 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 2: have a great day, one guy would be off, you know, 280 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:30,360 Speaker 2: one guy being accurate, one guy be turning the ball over. 281 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 2: Then we got to a point in camp where it 282 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: was like both guys were turning the ball over, but 283 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,839 Speaker 2: both are doing enough to kind of earn the trust 284 00:11:38,920 --> 00:11:40,920 Speaker 2: of the coaches. You know, you have two different styles 285 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 2: you have ad to O'Connell who's a pocket passer. He 286 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:44,959 Speaker 2: wants to sit back there. He wants to deliver the 287 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: ball accurately down the field. You know, uh he he 288 00:11:48,320 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 2: couldn't get better with pocket presence, you know, moving around 289 00:11:50,520 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 2: the pocket. Tom was one of the best guys ever. 290 00:11:52,720 --> 00:11:54,679 Speaker 2: You know, watched at a lot of film on Tom. 291 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 3: You know, he would just move that extra half half 292 00:11:57,400 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 3: step or half inch, take one step to still stay 293 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:01,920 Speaker 3: in the offense exactly. 294 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: That's that's very tough for young quarterbacks to do. You know, 295 00:12:06,320 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 1: sometimes the left tackle is getting bull rushed, or the 296 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 1: guy's running the hoop. He let he wants him to 297 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: run the hoop right because you're supposed to step your 298 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: ass up. And if you've got a little something in 299 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: your face from the you know, the nose guard who's 300 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 1: three hundred and forty five pounds, that's being double team. 301 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:22,200 Speaker 3: That's when you take a little step to the left. 302 00:12:22,280 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 1: But you got to keep your eyes down field while 303 00:12:24,400 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: you're doing it. And that's that's what That's fucking hard. 304 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's really hard. I mean, that's what you said it. 305 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 2: You know a lot of the young guys struggle with 306 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 2: that because the play breaks down. 307 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:35,719 Speaker 3: They want to breaks down. They want to take off 308 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 3: and run. 309 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: And a lot of times in the NFL, those routes 310 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 2: are coming open as soon as they're starting to run, 311 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 2: those routes are coming open. That the safety valve where 312 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 2: you can go with the ball. But you know, with 313 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 2: with Aiding and Gardner, it's good. It's been a good competition. 314 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 2: I think, you know, Aiden's more of a pocket passer 315 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 2: minshew Mania. He's gonna let it roll. He's he's really 316 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,240 Speaker 2: good about feeling the pressure escaping. He'll run, he's not 317 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,680 Speaker 2: scared to run it. And then he's really good about 318 00:12:57,760 --> 00:13:00,320 Speaker 2: keeping his eyes downfield and kind of creating those off schedule. 319 00:13:00,520 --> 00:13:01,680 Speaker 2: It reminds me a Baker a little. 320 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:02,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 321 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: I mean they know, I think Baker holds the offense 322 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:08,559 Speaker 1: a little more intact. But Baker does get a little 323 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,680 Speaker 1: sometimes where he'll it's just like that play make like 324 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:16,120 Speaker 1: tough playmaker, like out of nowhere, makes a crazy play 325 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: type ship. 326 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, got that dog in them. Guess the team's going. 327 00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 2: You know, on third down you take off the ball. 328 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 2: Boys are fired up. The boys are fired up. I 329 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: got a quick question. So you played for you play 330 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 2: for the Bills, I played you a bunch there. Yeah, 331 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 2: he played for the Raiders. Ye, Bill's Mafia, Raiders Nation. 332 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 2: What how do we how do we compare them? 333 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:34,120 Speaker 5: Now? 334 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,079 Speaker 1: Are there differences? They're both probably insane to play for. 335 00:13:37,600 --> 00:13:40,760 Speaker 1: But give me a little synopsis. So if that's a word, 336 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 1: I don't know that. 337 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:43,080 Speaker 5: You nail that, bro. 338 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:49,520 Speaker 3: I'm a football guy. So yeah, two awesome fan bases too, definitely, 339 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 3: And what's the craziest thing you've seen from both man? 340 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 3: So yeah, two awesome fan bases, two very different fan bases. 341 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 3: You know, Bill's Mafia. 342 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 2: You know, seventy five thousand people in the game, there's 343 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:03,000 Speaker 2: probably another seventy five thousand people that just stay in 344 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,200 Speaker 2: the parking lot to party. You know, they're showing up 345 00:14:06,280 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 2: early Saturday morning with the RVs. They're getting out, they're 346 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 2: getting their spread out. 347 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 3: You know. 348 00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 2: That's that's like the biggest thing going on in the 349 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 2: region that week is that Buffalo Bill's game. So you 350 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 2: know you really feel the year not. 351 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,599 Speaker 3: Weak, yeah exactly, you know, it's it's it's one of 352 00:14:18,640 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 3: those things where you feel the fan base. 353 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:22,280 Speaker 2: You're always out in the community. There's Bill stuff everywhere, 354 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: very college like atmosphere. You know, where so many people 355 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 2: are positive about the team and not a lot of 356 00:14:29,120 --> 00:14:31,280 Speaker 2: people trying to tear down the team or you know, 357 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 2: create waves. You know, they're very in unison. But it's awesome, man. 358 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,160 Speaker 2: You know seeing Bill's Mafia. You know, I used to 359 00:14:36,160 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 2: love the videos them going through tables and lighting themselves 360 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 2: on fire, and you know, all sorts of crazy stuff. 361 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 2: And then you have Rader Nation. Raider Nation's awesome. Man 362 00:14:44,400 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 2: Raider Nation is huge. It is travels too, ay travel 363 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 2: they show up. Man Raider Nation is everywhere. And I 364 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: was doing my first training camp up in nap Up 365 00:14:53,680 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 2: with the Raiders, and my mom used to always come 366 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 2: hang out during training camp. And you know, Buffalo Bills 367 00:14:58,400 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 2: are like middle class amer a wholesome families, you know, 368 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:05,640 Speaker 2: just you know, I would say, quote unquote normal people. 369 00:15:05,680 --> 00:15:07,880 Speaker 2: They get the Raiders and their psychos. I mean, these 370 00:15:07,920 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: people are all dressed up. It's eighty degrees out of practice. 371 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: They are all dressed up. They got the paint running 372 00:15:12,880 --> 00:15:16,480 Speaker 2: down their face, neck tattoos, prison tattoos. You know, we 373 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 2: always joke like, hey, if you got to go do 374 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 2: some bad shit, you're gonna call your cousin. 375 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:23,520 Speaker 3: That's a Raiders fan, because he's got your back, you know. So. 376 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 3: But yeah, Raiders fans, you know, their love. 377 00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 2: For the game, and you know they they were great 378 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 2: in the eighties and they had a lot of a 379 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 2: lot of history, a ton of history, a ton of 380 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:33,000 Speaker 2: history of al you know. It's it's it's really kind 381 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 2: of one of those story programs. And that's why I 382 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 2: want to see him get back to winning because they 383 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 2: deserve it. You know, Raiders Nation deserves at Las Vegas. 384 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:40,120 Speaker 2: I mean, we have an awesome stadium, we have a 385 00:15:40,120 --> 00:15:44,280 Speaker 2: great setup. The boys have a great practice facility. Mahal Yeah, 386 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: really and I need practicelies. 387 00:15:45,960 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 5: Bill called it. 388 00:15:47,160 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was like the sign of approval, you know. 389 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 2: Bill called it, you know, one of the best he's seen. 390 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, I mean the Raider Nation they're they're starving 391 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 2: for a winter. You know, it's been a long time 392 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 2: and a lot of crazy stuff, you know, being a 393 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 2: part of Raider Nation now, I think it's six or 394 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:02,720 Speaker 2: seventh year being a part of the team and being 395 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:03,680 Speaker 2: around the team, you know. 396 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 3: It's it's always something. There's there's always something up. 397 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: You know, there's something going on, and I'd like to 398 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,400 Speaker 2: see all that gets settled. Down and you know, have 399 00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 2: some sustained success and and really make some noise. 400 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, it'd be good for the league. There, that's a pillar. 401 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: That's a pillar of the organizing. That's a pillar of 402 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: this league. What's up with Davis? You do you ever 403 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:26,160 Speaker 3: meet Alan? Did you ever do you? What do you 404 00:16:26,200 --> 00:16:29,440 Speaker 3: think of a Mark Mark? Mark? Yeah? 405 00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 2: So I met Al at the at the combine. Yeah, 406 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 2: and I had a brief interaction with him, and he 407 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 2: was just like, You're born to be a Raider And 408 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: I was like, yeah, hell yeah, I'd love to come up. 409 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 3: There and play always. 410 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:41,800 Speaker 2: And uh, you know I I stayed really tight with Gruden. 411 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 2: Throw I got to know him over the years. You know, 412 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:45,320 Speaker 2: we played in the Pro Bowl one year and he 413 00:16:45,360 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 2: was sending over those trays just full of beers over 414 00:16:47,880 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 2: the offensive line. So I always loved Gruden. Uh and 415 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 2: uh yeah. He was the one talking to me about 416 00:16:54,200 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 2: coming out of retirement because I took a year off 417 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 2: and he was like, you're not done, you got it 418 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:00,720 Speaker 2: in you, come on, let's go come back. And Mark 419 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: Davis is great man. Love hanging around Mark. He's got 420 00:17:02,760 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 2: good energy. He loves the Raiders. 421 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:06,679 Speaker 3: Uh. The Raiders really are family. You know we have. 422 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:08,840 Speaker 3: We're getting ready to go back next weekend. We do 423 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 3: Alumni Weekend. 424 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 2: I think they bring back three hundred and fifty former 425 00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:14,360 Speaker 2: players and you know they throw it down for two 426 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,440 Speaker 2: or three days in Vegas. You know, big parties, big 427 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 2: you know, we take over the Winfield Club. So it's uh, 428 00:17:19,600 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 2: it's really cool. 429 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:20,360 Speaker 4: Man. 430 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: I like, I like mister Davis, and uh, I know 431 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 2: he really wants to start winning. 432 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:26,679 Speaker 3: I know that's a big thing. What do you know 433 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 3: what's in his Fannie pack ols? I mean Mark Marks. 434 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:32,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't know what's in there, 435 00:17:32,080 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 2: but uh, he's definitely got a unique style and he 436 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: owns it and like that that's him he. 437 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's David's drip. 438 00:17:39,280 --> 00:17:42,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the drip. Yeah, he's uh, he's awesome. 439 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 3: Man. 440 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: It really is cool to be part of Raiders because 441 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 2: I live in Scottsdale and it's so close and shoot 442 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 2: up so easily. 443 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 3: So uh, it's it's fun. 444 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: Now you play for the Raiders and and the Bills, 445 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 1: and it's always funny or fun to hear about guys 446 00:17:57,680 --> 00:18:01,080 Speaker 1: that played with Marshaun Lynch. Oh yeah, yeah, Like do 447 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: we got anything what do you. Oh, Man, Marshawn, that's 448 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,520 Speaker 1: my guy because I love I grew up in the Bay. Yeah, 449 00:18:07,560 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 1: and he is mister just HYPEI stupid, doodoo, dumb like crazy. 450 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:14,520 Speaker 1: I've heard, I've been hearing stories about Marshawn. I've never 451 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:18,880 Speaker 1: We've only met maybe briefly here after a game or something, 452 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:21,680 Speaker 1: but we've you know, been in contact. I've always wanted 453 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,480 Speaker 1: to do something, but I've never. But I love hearing 454 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: the stories about Marshank because they're just genuine and fucking awesome. 455 00:18:28,040 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean he is mister Bay Area. 456 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 2: I mean he is, like he represents that whole scene 457 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:34,160 Speaker 2: so well, Like he's so funny. But yeah, I played 458 00:18:34,200 --> 00:18:36,920 Speaker 2: with him in Buffalo and I just remember us drinking 459 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:38,840 Speaker 2: a apple Bee's. Like he showed up with like three 460 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: porches in a row full of people, went to Applebee's, 461 00:18:41,640 --> 00:18:43,399 Speaker 2: threw it down, And I mean. 462 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,800 Speaker 3: He was a beast dude. I mean, you you talk 463 00:18:44,840 --> 00:18:47,160 Speaker 3: about running angry, that dude was trying to take your 464 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: head off. He was. 465 00:18:48,520 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: He was a stud. But uh, but yeah, it's great. 466 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,680 Speaker 2: It's great having him around the program in Vegas. Does 467 00:18:53,720 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 2: he come by He's around a lot. Yeah, he's around 468 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:58,760 Speaker 2: a lot. He's in Vegas a lot, but yeah, he's 469 00:18:58,800 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 2: a beast man. 470 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,160 Speaker 3: Talked to Dola and he wanted us to ask ask 471 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 3: us about the four wheeler stories. Oh Ammondola Ala, Oh 472 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 3: my guy, my guy. 473 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 5: Yeah. 474 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 1: So and maybe the first time you ever saw him 475 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: or interacted with him in a huddle, what'd you say? 476 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,720 Speaker 3: Look, who's this? Make a wish kid into the huddle? 477 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 1: He goes, yeah, it was my first time ever in 478 00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: the huddle. And I'm sitting there and all of a sudden, 479 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: Richie looks over and said, who brought their little fucking brotherhood? 480 00:19:30,119 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 1: That one stuck with Dola? 481 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 6: Damn. 482 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 2: Yeah he was a little guy. He was shifty, but yeah, 483 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 2: so we had we had h one of our our 484 00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 2: rookie offensive line was like the second overall pick. So 485 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 2: he got like a crazy amount of cash signing bonus. 486 00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: So he was real big on He was from Texas. 487 00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 2: He was like, I don't want to waste it on meal, Like, 488 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:52,760 Speaker 2: I'd rather get you guys something. So we were like, cool, 489 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 2: we want these badass new race quads, the Yamaha you know, 490 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 2: one thousands whatever. He was like, all right, cool, So 491 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 2: he bought all of us then and I had one. 492 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:03,800 Speaker 2: I had mine in the garage. This was the next season, 493 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 2: and me and Danny went out one night. We got 494 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:07,960 Speaker 2: all tore up and I was like, hey, man, let's 495 00:20:07,960 --> 00:20:10,800 Speaker 2: go ride that fucking quad. So it's like three o'clock 496 00:20:10,840 --> 00:20:12,680 Speaker 2: in the morning and me and Danny are just ripping 497 00:20:12,800 --> 00:20:14,399 Speaker 2: up and down the street in my neighborhood. 498 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: I got a letter from the HOA. I think I 499 00:20:16,760 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 3: think it started. We were in the garage and I 500 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 3: was just revving it up, revving it up, and someone 501 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,879 Speaker 3: had the idea like, let's go ride that around. Like, 502 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,879 Speaker 3: all right, cool, So. 503 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 5: Private property, Wake up the neighborhood, dy, private property? 504 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, private property. We'll be right back after this quick break. 505 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 1: All right, let's go back to October six, twenty nineteen. 506 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:43,239 Speaker 1: This is a segment be where we go over all 507 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: the pop culture around the game and what was relevant. 508 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 3: Number one movie was Joker. You ever see that movie? 509 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,199 Speaker 3: A movie? Crazy movie? They got a. 510 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: Sequel kind Oh, I'm excited for two. I'm excited for two. 511 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 1: It's gonna be insane. Number one song was Truth Hurts 512 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: by Lizzo. You ever heard that great jam? 513 00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I never heard of her. 514 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 4: I don't know where the Minnesota Viking was. 515 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 5: Yeah, she talks in there about dating a Minnesota Vikings player. 516 00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 6: Is she? 517 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:06,240 Speaker 3: Oh? 518 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 5: Is that the one? 519 00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 3: Yeah? 520 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 5: Yah, that's the one. 521 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 3: How's it go? 522 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 5: Jack new Man on the Minnesota Vikings? That one? That's 523 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 5: all the only line I really. 524 00:21:14,200 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 3: Shout around this time. It was the first season of Succession. 525 00:21:19,200 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 3: Do you watch that show? Great? I can't believe it. 526 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 3: I thought it was like older than that. At least. 527 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,600 Speaker 1: It's five older too, because it's done now. Yeah, and 528 00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,119 Speaker 1: so it's done. And I remember Billions being around, but 529 00:21:33,160 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 1: I guess Succession was never around. It just started. 530 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 4: The main character, Kendall Roy, he subletted my apartment from 531 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,159 Speaker 4: college in Boston, was filming a movie there and I 532 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 4: just like I had a shitty apartment Beacon Helen. He 533 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 4: just like rented it from me before all this ship. 534 00:21:46,280 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 4: It's kind of wild. 535 00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 3: Hw he's Kendall. 536 00:21:48,400 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 4: That is Kendall. 537 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:50,440 Speaker 3: How do you say that name? Jack? 538 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,920 Speaker 5: Oh? Elliott? Keep chokey the marathon runner. He broke the 539 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 5: first guy to break the two hour mark on a 540 00:21:56,440 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 5: marathon that's fucking gnarly wild on a closed course in 541 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:00,280 Speaker 5: the Vienna Tria. 542 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,800 Speaker 3: And it was like the movie it was like the 543 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:04,800 Speaker 3: year of sequels. 544 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:10,240 Speaker 1: You had zombie Land, Double Tap, you had it, Chapter two, Rambo, 545 00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: Last Blood, like all pretty much sequel or trequels or whatever. 546 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:16,640 Speaker 3: You call zombie Land. 547 00:22:16,640 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 6: That was. 548 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 3: That was a pretty good friend. Yeah, those pretty good 549 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: two movies. Harrelson, Shadow, Woody Man, Rambo. I haven't seen 550 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:26,080 Speaker 3: this one. 551 00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:30,040 Speaker 1: I don't think I like, I know, I like the 552 00:22:30,119 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: the second one and got me or third, I mean 553 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: after that, we were getting I gotta watch. 554 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:39,920 Speaker 5: Him again, Bro, It's fun to imagine how we'd be 555 00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 5: a nom. I think we'd make a good little unit. 556 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 3: Are you a Fox? Old guy? Jock Jack going down 557 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 3: on Fox? Let's go. We'll send him in first. Oh 558 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:55,920 Speaker 3: my god, you ever watched a Righteous Gemstone? Yes, legendary 559 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,320 Speaker 3: hell Jack's favorite. 560 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 5: You got to get on it, Joel said, he watched. 561 00:22:59,240 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 6: I watched. 562 00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 5: It's very good, but it's I it's hard to like. 563 00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:06,000 Speaker 5: Stay it rules Baby, I love Uncle Baby, Billy, all 564 00:23:06,040 --> 00:23:07,480 Speaker 5: the guys. Great show. 565 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: What was life like for you in twenty nineteen Balling Man, 566 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,280 Speaker 3: you know, playing the first season with the Raiders, the 567 00:23:13,320 --> 00:23:15,280 Speaker 3: last one in Oakland, so I got to live up there. 568 00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:16,000 Speaker 3: I lived in Oakland. 569 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:17,720 Speaker 2: I live in downtown living in jack London, so I 570 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: got the full Oakland experience. 571 00:23:20,119 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 5: How was that? 572 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 3: It was wild? Man, it was, it was wild. 573 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:23,600 Speaker 5: You know. 574 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:26,359 Speaker 3: I'm from the West Coast. 575 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,159 Speaker 2: I love Cali, spent my summers out here in La 576 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:29,679 Speaker 2: So playing in the Bay Area it was awesome. 577 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 3: I always wanted to be up there check it out. 578 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 3: You know. 579 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,200 Speaker 2: The weather's awesome. Yeah, and living in Oakland, man, it's 580 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 2: it's rough. It's rough with the homeless and the crime 581 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,360 Speaker 2: and the stuff. But like living there and being part 582 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: of the community and being a part of that Raiders 583 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,040 Speaker 2: tradition was really cool. I really enjoyed it. 584 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:45,480 Speaker 3: Yeah. 585 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,160 Speaker 2: Probably some good food. Awesome food, Yeah, great food all over. 586 00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,520 Speaker 2: Our old facility in Alameda was a dump. 587 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:52,600 Speaker 3: It was a dump. 588 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: I mean they built, like, I think they spent like 589 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:57,320 Speaker 2: ten twelve million bucks on a weight room outside, and 590 00:23:57,359 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 2: that's what kind of saved it. 591 00:23:58,280 --> 00:23:59,200 Speaker 3: We all just hung out in there. 592 00:23:59,440 --> 00:24:01,160 Speaker 2: But then you said, before they built a new weight room, 593 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 2: they had like those drop down ceilings and they would 594 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,000 Speaker 2: have to remove the panel so that guys could do 595 00:24:05,080 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 2: pull ups would pop up in the ceiling. 596 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I remember playing in the coliseum. 597 00:24:10,280 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 4: Oh rough, they would have the baseball infield, right, yeah. 598 00:24:14,040 --> 00:24:17,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, hated the Raiders. This is what I heard. 599 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: The A's had the the say on what the field was, 600 00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: and they always wanted to cover with grass, and the 601 00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: A's were pretty much like, no, we're even as a 602 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: baseball field. 603 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 3: We're not let you cover it up. And you you've 604 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 3: played on that, yea. You'd be running with the ball 605 00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 3: and you'd be like, oh no, no, I'm not getting 606 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 3: tackled on that, Like I'm going over. I'm gonna find 607 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 3: some grass. Click to out running. Oh, it's miserable. Anybody 608 00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 3: gives it. 609 00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 5: There's no traction like glass, do aren't they? 610 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,800 Speaker 3: Yeah? Miami, I played on that on my field in 611 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 3: Miami with the baseball field. I've never played on that one. 612 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:48,199 Speaker 3: They closed every year at the end. 613 00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 2: It was it was at the end where the Dolphins 614 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: come out, and the third baseline was on the goal line. 615 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,680 Speaker 2: So it's preseason and it's raining one year and the 616 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:00,880 Speaker 2: defensive line has their feet in the grass and we're 617 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 2: in the mud and we get shut down like four 618 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:03,800 Speaker 2: plays in a row on the goal line. 619 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 3: The coaches like what's going on. I'm like, dude, we're 620 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,440 Speaker 3: in the mud. They have traction in the grass. Yea, 621 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: what the fuck do you want us to do? I 622 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 3: mean it changes gameplay, It changes it changes how you 623 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 3: can call plays. Literally. 624 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 1: I remember we used to have situational talk because there's 625 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: a couple of times where we go there and we 626 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: didn't know if they were gonna have it or not, 627 00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:23,760 Speaker 1: and we'd have like, you know, we would go over 628 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: those situations where look, you know, if we're in the 629 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: fucking red area and we don't have traction, we can't 630 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: call the fucking middle blast, you know, like that's we'd 631 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:34,640 Speaker 1: have to have ship the other ship. 632 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 5: That's so funny to avoid the third baseline in the 633 00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 5: football game. 634 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, in Oakland it was the whole It was 635 00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 2: like third base, the first base, That whole part was 636 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 2: in the in the field. 637 00:25:44,920 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 6: Yeah. 638 00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 2: So yeah, we were playing there once with Josh Jacobs 639 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 2: and he took off and he broke out and he 640 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,639 Speaker 2: hit him open daylight. And then he thought about it 641 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: real hard because he had went down a couple weeks 642 00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 2: before and he had a huge burn on his arm. Yeah, 643 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 2: so he was just like, nope, I'm just gonna run 644 00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 2: back into these guys, let them them tackle me in 645 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 2: the grass. 646 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:06,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's like, it's tough, it's wild. Get those raspberries. 647 00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:10,080 Speaker 1: In the sports world, in two twenty nineteen Super Bowl champions, 648 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: the Chiefs Chiefs the NFL MVP, LeMay Jackson. Can he 649 00:26:16,440 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 1: get it done in the playoffs yet to be seen? 650 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 1: What do you think about this Chiefs dynasty? This fucking 651 00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 1: real deal. 652 00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:23,840 Speaker 2: Huh, They're the real deal, man, They are the real deal. 653 00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 2: I mean you look at the roster, it's a well 654 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,439 Speaker 2: constructed roster. I love Andy Reid, Yeah, big Red as 655 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 2: the man, a ton of talent. You know, they're in 656 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: the division with us, so obviously hate them. But at 657 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:35,879 Speaker 2: the same time, you have to sit back. It's like 658 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:37,600 Speaker 2: the Patriots dynasty. You gotta sit back, and you gotta 659 00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 2: respect how they've had sustained success for so long. 660 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and how they just keep bringing in talent. 661 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,600 Speaker 2: They keep surrounding Mahomes and Kelsey and they got they 662 00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 2: got their their big time players. But they're always adding talent, 663 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 2: always getting better. Their defenses is a nightmare to play 664 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 2: against because miss bags they line up everywhere and you 665 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,040 Speaker 2: have no idea where the hell they're coming from. But 666 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 2: they're good, man, they're good. 667 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:03,720 Speaker 1: Spags he's gonna go down as like a scarnek Yo. Yeah, 668 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like one of those guys 669 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:10,119 Speaker 1: that where he goes that that is fucking dialed up 670 00:27:10,119 --> 00:27:10,280 Speaker 1: of the. 671 00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 3: Team defense balls where he goes for sure. I mean 672 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,880 Speaker 3: he's got what does he have? Five or six? 673 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 5: Now four? 674 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:19,000 Speaker 1: He's got like six rings because he got a bunch 675 00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,640 Speaker 1: with giants. He got us with the giants. 676 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 3: With the giants, he's got four. 677 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:24,400 Speaker 5: Yeah. 678 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 1: It's it's really impressive watching the Chiefs and how they 679 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: reinvent themselves every year. 680 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,359 Speaker 3: You know, Tyreek Hill goes, all right, we don't have 681 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,760 Speaker 3: the weapons. What do they do? 682 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:36,200 Speaker 1: They get better on defense defense. You know, they don't 683 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 1: turn the ball over as much. They may not have 684 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 1: you know, the Hollywood plays and the big time you know, 685 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:44,159 Speaker 1: video game type plays, but it takes a lot for 686 00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: a team to be disciplined enough not to fuck it 687 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: up on offense. Like that's so much respect for Patrick 688 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,359 Speaker 1: Mahomes to change the way he really wants to play 689 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: to like lean on what the. 690 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 3: Strength of the team is. 691 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:58,360 Speaker 1: Right that that that takes humility for a guy like that, Yeah, 692 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,359 Speaker 1: you know, and then you know with the receipt record 693 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: they had last year and to do it again. 694 00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,200 Speaker 3: I mean it's tough. 695 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:03,879 Speaker 4: You know. 696 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,399 Speaker 1: The one thing that you know, I'll probably talk about 697 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: this year with them is when you start adding up 698 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 1: these types of long seasons, the injury bug starts coming. 699 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: You don't want to put it on them, but I mean, 700 00:28:17,240 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 1: every time you go to a Super Bowl, your your 701 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: off season is that much shorter, your recovery is that 702 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,000 Speaker 1: much shorter. You have to get back your battery's not charged. 703 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,480 Speaker 1: Instead of going to the season at one hundred, you're 704 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 1: starting in at you know, maybe ninety five, and that's 705 00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:32,160 Speaker 1: already that's that's a lot, you know, yeah, because you're 706 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 1: it's only gonna go down during the season. So that's 707 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: the only thing because they really haven't had one of 708 00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 1: the main main dogs. I'm not putting it out there, 709 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,320 Speaker 1: but you know what I'm talking about, Like when you 710 00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 1: start you play more football than everyone else. Bad things 711 00:28:46,760 --> 00:28:49,120 Speaker 1: happen or not bad things, but the body just can't take. 712 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: Like the best team I played on was in fifteen. 713 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,120 Speaker 1: You know, we just won a Super Bowl. 714 00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 3: Fourteen. 715 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 1: We went, you know, a couple of years ago to 716 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: the AFC champion. You know, we were stacking up years. 717 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: Nate soldier. We seven blows up peck Deon Lewis tears 718 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,560 Speaker 1: his knee, I break a foot, and that was like 719 00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: our best team, you know, but we didn't win the 720 00:29:06,360 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Yeah, it takes a lot. There's a lot 721 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,480 Speaker 1: of shit. So you know, they haven't had anything like that, 722 00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,960 Speaker 1: and that's gonna come. It's inevitable and some of some 723 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,080 Speaker 1: sort isn't weird the injury bug in the NFL. Like 724 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,640 Speaker 1: you have some seasons where everybody's healthy. 725 00:29:20,720 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 2: You know, you have guys go down, but they come 726 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:23,920 Speaker 2: back at the right time and everything that kind of 727 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 2: kind of keeps going. 728 00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,600 Speaker 3: And then you co in a season and everybody's hurt 729 00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 3: and you're just like, what the hell is going on? 730 00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's crazy, But yeah, for them, you 731 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,240 Speaker 2: know what's really cool about watching the Chiefs is, you know, 732 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 2: they lose Tyreek, or they're down an offensive lineman or okay, 733 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,080 Speaker 2: now the defense, they have to be the ones to 734 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: step up and carry the team. Well, you know, Patrick 735 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 2: finds who's he's comfortable with on offense. You know, each 736 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 2: it's each off season watching them just get better, watching 737 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,560 Speaker 2: them bring in the right guys, watching them bring in hey, 738 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:54,680 Speaker 2: you know, we thought Patrick got hit too much last year. Okay, 739 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:56,840 Speaker 2: we're bringing in two new tackles. You know, it takes 740 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 2: it takes teams years to address those problems, and they're 741 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: just I mean they are I really have a lot 742 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: of respect for Joe Toney. 743 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 3: Joe, Yeah, shout out my gets two with us. He's 744 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 3: already got two with them. 745 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:09,719 Speaker 6: Now. 746 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,640 Speaker 3: This guy, yeah, he's a stud man. Yeah, I don't 747 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 3: think he you know, he tore his peck a little 748 00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:14,960 Speaker 3: or something last year. 749 00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 1: He missed some time, but he's that guy didn't miss 750 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: a snap the whole career with the Pats. 751 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's fucking crazy. You you were really healthy too. Yeah. 752 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: I had a really good run in the middle of 753 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:28,520 Speaker 2: my career, just staying healthy and being durable and starting 754 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 2: every all the games. 755 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, he He'sman Trophy winner. Joe Burrow, Joe Burr, 756 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: that's a Burrow and Lamar that's the same class. Now 757 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: that that's one year older, when you're a little bit longer, 758 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:42,920 Speaker 1: what do you think about this young QB class? 759 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 3: J J. 760 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: McCarthy tears is fucking unfortunately and Allison, but like Caleb 761 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,240 Speaker 1: looked pretty decent. 762 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,520 Speaker 3: Caleb look good. He was delivering the ball. He looked good, 763 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 3: he looked confident. 764 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 2: He does another guy play breaks down, evade the rush, 765 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,719 Speaker 2: keep the eyes down. Feel he's always looking to make 766 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 2: a play. And then those off balanced throws. I mean, 767 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 2: you can't teach guys to make those throws. But I 768 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: think Caleb looked really good. D Daniels Jayden I like him. 769 00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 2: I was hoping we get him with the Raiders. You know, 770 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:12,520 Speaker 2: there's a ap connect. I was hoping we'd be able 771 00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:13,840 Speaker 2: to make a move for him. But he's gonna be 772 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:14,240 Speaker 2: a stud. 773 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know it's it's Cliff Kingsbury likes him a lot, well, Cliff, Cliff. 774 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 3: Cliff is a smart guy. Cliff is a smart guy. 775 00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 3: Cliff is a smart guy. 776 00:31:24,000 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 6: You know. 777 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: I'm excited for those two to get to work, you 778 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: know what I mean, because a lot of that with 779 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 1: a young quarterback is the development and it's the relationship 780 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: between that and the play caller for sure, that has 781 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 1: so much to do with how this kid's going to 782 00:31:37,000 --> 00:31:40,200 Speaker 1: be successful. Yeah, you know, And and Cliff's got one 783 00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:42,720 Speaker 1: in his pocket where he already. I mean, Kyler Murray, 784 00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,239 Speaker 1: for as much as you whatever you want to say 785 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:46,360 Speaker 1: about him, the guys put up numbers and he went 786 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,560 Speaker 1: to the playoffs. They started like eight to oh one year. 787 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,720 Speaker 1: You know with him, well, he played his best ball 788 00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: with Cliff. Yeah, you know Cliff. 789 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: Cliff comes in and Cliff is a very very smart guy. 790 00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 2: And you know Cliff, we all know Cliff as a 791 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,440 Speaker 2: play caller. And I love I love those kind of 792 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 2: genius offensive play callers where they have this massive menu 793 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 2: of stuff and it's like as I played on teams 794 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 2: where it's like we're gonna do this, we're gonna do this, 795 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 2: we're gonna do this, and it's like all right. 796 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 3: Cool, we're really good about doing that. But once they 797 00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,080 Speaker 3: figure it out, what are we gonna do? Yeah? 798 00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 2: And I I like these offensive guys who are geniuses 799 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:16,520 Speaker 2: and they have this massive playbook and they're looking for 800 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 2: matchups and each week is a different iteration of the 801 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 2: offense and you have to adapt to win. And you 802 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 2: guys did a really good job of that New England 803 00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 2: over the years. You know, sometimes it's run heavy. Sometimes 804 00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 2: you know, Tom spread them out air and it out. 805 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: You know, you guys were never just gonna come in 806 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 2: and be like, hey, we're gonna run our power and 807 00:32:31,240 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 2: our duo and our outside zone and our play action. 808 00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:35,120 Speaker 2: I've been on teams like that, and you know, it's 809 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 2: like pulling teeth trying to get the ball down the field. 810 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,040 Speaker 3: That's the thing. Like the West Coast teams are notorious 811 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 3: for that script. Yep. They stay on that script. Yep, 812 00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,400 Speaker 3: you know what I mean. And then you have to 813 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 3: adjust to the script. 814 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 4: You know. 815 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,640 Speaker 1: We were such an adjust to the adjustments type team. Yeah, 816 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, game plan is specifically for every weakness that 817 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,680 Speaker 1: that defense had, right, even if it wasn't our strength, 818 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: if our strength matched up with their strength, but our 819 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,960 Speaker 1: were our weakness was better than their weakness in some 820 00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:04,479 Speaker 1: sort would we would go to that until they stopped 821 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: it and then have things you know, and then' that's 822 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: what that offensive coordinator does. And Cliff's story, man, it's 823 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,200 Speaker 1: just crazy to me because he's got to learn under 824 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,200 Speaker 1: a lot of really good coaches. I mean, he was 825 00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: around with Belichick. He was a player, but he wasn't playing, 826 00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:24,680 Speaker 1: so Bill would give him like projects and he'd have 827 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:27,600 Speaker 1: to break up the film oh wow and all that stuff. 828 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: While he was a player, but he was kind of coaching, 829 00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He was like the third 830 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 1: quarterback or something. And then he got his time where 831 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: he moved on and learned the West coast and you know, 832 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: and then did his whole thing in Texas Tech. Cliff's 833 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: a stud I'm looking forward to that. This is one 834 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: hundredth year of the NFL twenty nineteen, one hundred years wild, 835 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,080 Speaker 1: one hundred years, hundred years of ball, Richie, If you 836 00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: had to play in another era other than the one 837 00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: you played in, of those hundred years, what do you 838 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:54,480 Speaker 1: think you would have been the best in? 839 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 2: I mean, I want to I would say like the 840 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 2: eighties nineties, which it was like a little more rough 841 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 2: and tumble. You know, you got guys like who are 842 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 2: out of their fucking minds. I think I fit in 843 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,200 Speaker 2: a little bit better with them. But uh, yeah, that'd 844 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,560 Speaker 2: be awesome to go back to that. I mean, I 845 00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 2: wouldn't want those paychecks. I mean, I didn't like our 846 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: paychecks better, but yeah, that'd be awesome. 847 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 3: To go back that job. 848 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,799 Speaker 5: In the offseason, Yeah, I know, show up. 849 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 3: For camp smoking cigarettes still do? 850 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 5: All right, Jackie, break down this game. Let's get into 851 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:28,920 Speaker 5: these Bears. An eight and eight team finished third in 852 00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 5: the NFC and North. This was the second year of 853 00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:34,600 Speaker 5: the Matt Naggy year. Our era OC was Mark Elfred. 854 00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,239 Speaker 5: You might remember him. He took over for Chip Kelly 855 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:40,600 Speaker 5: at Oregon. Chuck Bagano, another familiar, was running the defense 856 00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,640 Speaker 5: over there. And they're coming off a twelve and four 857 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 5: season that ended in the Double Doint Game, which we 858 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 5: have covered on this show with Kyle Long and Chris Long. 859 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,160 Speaker 5: And speaking of the Double Doint Game, we talked with 860 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 5: Ernie the power of a single game to set you 861 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 5: back years and years and years. Richard, you believe in 862 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 5: that theory, what's one game can be so brutal and 863 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 5: heartbreaking that like sets a franchise back years? 864 00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:06,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, Seattle Super. 865 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,719 Speaker 2: Bowl, Yeah Yeah, there's a lot of especially coming from 866 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 2: the Bills. You know, all the wide left and all 867 00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 2: that stuff. You know that that defined that team in 868 00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:15,879 Speaker 2: that city for a while, you know, until twenty years later. 869 00:35:15,960 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 3: Now they're balling. 870 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 2: They got Josh Allen and they're flying around. But yeah, man, 871 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,800 Speaker 2: I think I think that stuff lingers and that stuff 872 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 2: can kind of have an effect into the next season. 873 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 4: I'm with you. 874 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 5: I definitely subscribe to that theory. So, yeah, this was 875 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 5: coming off a great year and this was third year 876 00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:31,919 Speaker 5: the Trubisky era, Old Mitch. 877 00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:34,879 Speaker 3: You know, we all talked about, you know, oh mix 878 00:35:35,000 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 3: this and Naggie was terrible. I mean, look at this 879 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,359 Speaker 3: team was fourteen and fucking twelve and fourteen top ten 880 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,960 Speaker 3: defense and then yeah, didn't they make the playoffs this 881 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,480 Speaker 3: year or no? 882 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,000 Speaker 5: No, they finished a and and they were the only 883 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 5: team ever to miss the playoffs while being top five 884 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,280 Speaker 5: and fewest points allowed. 885 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 3: That defense was legit. 886 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,840 Speaker 2: I shit, you got a Keeam Hicks, Eddie Goldman, Balall Nichols, 887 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,960 Speaker 2: that guy Ruy Roberts Harris. He was a good pass rusher. 888 00:35:58,280 --> 00:36:03,200 Speaker 2: And we're the linebackers. Mack Kowski, Leonard. 889 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:06,840 Speaker 3: Floyd, what's so, Kyle Fuller Fuller, yeah, Kyle fell I 890 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 3: mean they were flying out, Eddie Jackson, Haja Clinton Dix. 891 00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 2: I mean they had they had some studs and yeah, 892 00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: but we were watching them on tape. We were like, man, 893 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: these guys are good. They're flying around. Khalil Mack. 894 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:17,239 Speaker 3: I think this was one of his first years there, 895 00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,959 Speaker 3: and he was. You know, that was the whole stop. 896 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 3: That was the whole talk. 897 00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:22,960 Speaker 2: Khalil Mack coming to play the Raiders again. You know, 898 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,279 Speaker 2: we're gonna go out, We're gonna punch Khalil Mack in 899 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 2: the mouth. First play of the game, we ran a 900 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:30,080 Speaker 2: naked our left tackle gets into him. Colton Miller I 901 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 2: go over there, get a little work on them, and 902 00:36:31,600 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 2: Josh Jacobs buzzes the tower, gives him a little shot, 903 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:34,759 Speaker 2: so we put him on. 904 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 3: Notice. You know you're not gonna be running around out 905 00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 3: here doing crazy stuff. We got We're gonna have people 906 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:38,880 Speaker 3: on you. 907 00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 5: Oh dude, yeah, good memory. Richie Rokuan Smith and Danny 908 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:45,319 Speaker 5: Travathana's they were on IR. They ended up on IR. 909 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,440 Speaker 2: Rokwon Smith. He was a hell of a piece. Traveathon 910 00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 2: was a player. I mean he could run. But yeah, 911 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 2: I mean that's that's a pretty good defense right there. Now, 912 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,840 Speaker 2: what's buzzing the tower means, well, you know we we 913 00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 2: were running a naked place, so we're running at Khalil. 914 00:36:57,480 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 2: You know, we're securing the line of scrimmage. Then you're 915 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 2: just going to find work. So Colton tied him up. 916 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,880 Speaker 2: I got my guy over to our center. Rodney, I 917 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,920 Speaker 2: went out there. I took a shot at him. So 918 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,160 Speaker 2: he's out there, he's kind of flailing around and Josh 919 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 2: Jacobs is coming out as he's released in a flat 920 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,400 Speaker 2: he whacked him too, So he took one from me, 921 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: one from Josh and he was like, all right. 922 00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 3: It's on, Like let's go. And that's what you have 923 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 3: to do to a guy like Khalil Mack. You have 924 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 3: to hit him every play. 925 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: He's got to be hitting directions he doesn't know, so 926 00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:25,840 Speaker 1: he thinks that's that's designed. You know, you gotta have 927 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,760 Speaker 1: like they I remember we when we have David Andrews 928 00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:33,439 Speaker 1: and we had we were playing you know, Rams Donald Donald, 929 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, you know, like we would we would have 930 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: double teams and we'd have our center like he had 931 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:41,319 Speaker 1: to clean the pile up. 932 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:44,320 Speaker 3: Always hit that guy. Look at his looking over the 933 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,000 Speaker 3: finish over here. For sure, it's a lost art form. 934 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 3: I think. 935 00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 2: I think a lot of these pass rushers they kind 936 00:37:49,239 --> 00:37:50,960 Speaker 2: of get a pass in today's NFL because there's no 937 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:53,160 Speaker 2: full back. There's not a lot of tight ends going 938 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 2: back and getting chop blocks. But you got to rough 939 00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,360 Speaker 2: that guy up. You got a premiere d end out there. 940 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:58,800 Speaker 2: You got to give him different looks. You got to 941 00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,000 Speaker 2: hit him on both sides his head, you got to 942 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: cut him. You gotta make him question, you know what's 943 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,680 Speaker 2: going on instead of just flying up the field and 944 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 2: giving it to those tackles. I don't think enough teams 945 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:09,360 Speaker 2: feature that. 946 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was. 947 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 2: It was kind of cool to see the Raiders kind 948 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 2: of trying to do that to Max Crosby and Camp. 949 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,279 Speaker 2: You know, bring some bodies over there, get some people 950 00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 2: on him, and Max is just blowing up every play 951 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 2: a training camp. Literally they we did. We did a 952 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 2: scrimmage one night and it was, you know, don't touch 953 00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 2: the quarterback. Everybody else's live, don't touch the quarterback. He 954 00:38:24,719 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 2: came ripping off the edge, put Minshew on his head, 955 00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:30,120 Speaker 2: sack fumble, and everybody was like, all right, maxicun touch 956 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 2: the quarterbacks. Max, he touched the quarterbacks. But but yeah, man, 957 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,279 Speaker 2: you gotta give you got to give those guys up front. Hell, 958 00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:37,640 Speaker 2: and you got a game plan form. You know, you're 959 00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 2: playing Aaron Donald, JJ Watt all these studs. You can't 960 00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 2: just go in there and run your base stuff. You 961 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 2: gotta have a plan for him. 962 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, Now, who was the guy that you competed against, 963 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: because there's game there's like game wreckers. Who's someone that 964 00:38:50,160 --> 00:38:51,800 Speaker 1: you were driving to the stadium like, all right, we 965 00:38:51,840 --> 00:38:53,239 Speaker 1: gotta get this guy that you had. 966 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 3: You knew it was gonna be a long day. Yeah, 967 00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:57,000 Speaker 3: it's gonna be a tough day. It was gonna be 968 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 3: a day where you had to be involved with him 969 00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 3: every day. There is there one guy that sticks out. 970 00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 3: I mean it's Aaron Donald, one hundred percent. It's Aaron Donald. 971 00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 2: You know what what he was able to do with 972 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 2: the three technique and the DM position, his movement and 973 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 2: his his kind of his athletic ability, like. 974 00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 3: You know, he'd be able. He'd give you three pass 975 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:16,440 Speaker 3: rush moves and be like, what the what was that? 976 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 2: Like I got a holding call on him once and 977 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:20,759 Speaker 2: I was like, that's bullshit because I didn't even touch him, 978 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,600 Speaker 2: Like he just spun around and did this crazy shit. 979 00:39:23,680 --> 00:39:25,920 Speaker 2: But yeah, that's That's one of those guys where like, 980 00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 2: you know, all pass protection rules are off, We're not 981 00:39:28,120 --> 00:39:30,759 Speaker 2: sliding into backers, were sliding to him wherever he is. 982 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 3: He was a game wrecker. JJ Watt was like that, 983 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 3: Like you had to have a plan for JJ Watt 984 00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:36,839 Speaker 3: or else. 985 00:39:37,080 --> 00:39:39,000 Speaker 2: Jj Watt was going to pick on that backside tackle, 986 00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,600 Speaker 2: make him look stupid, bend the corner and go make place. 987 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:44,080 Speaker 2: So you know, JJ Watt we always had some you know, 988 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,680 Speaker 2: always some special stuff in there trying to think who 989 00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:48,239 Speaker 2: else I mean. 990 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:51,240 Speaker 3: There's any any guys you get into it with. Who 991 00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,280 Speaker 3: I know? You you you fought? We know? Oh yeah definitely. 992 00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:56,760 Speaker 1: Who Who's someone that you knew you were gonna probably 993 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: fight every every time? 994 00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:58,000 Speaker 3: Is there? 995 00:39:58,040 --> 00:39:58,080 Speaker 6: So? 996 00:39:58,200 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 3: Is there because I had Benny? 997 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 7: Uh? 998 00:40:00,760 --> 00:40:03,680 Speaker 1: I think I have Benny Sap or something from from 999 00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 1: the Dolph Who was the safety with you guys and 1000 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:06,719 Speaker 1: the Dolphins? 1001 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:11,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, well we had we had Sap. Yeah, No, there's 1002 00:40:11,400 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 3: another one later was the big buff guy. 1003 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 6: Nah. 1004 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 3: Regardless, we were fighting every every time we yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, No, 1005 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:19,359 Speaker 3: there's a there was a bunch of guys. 1006 00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 5: Man. 1007 00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 2: When I was younger, I used to work out with 1008 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:23,759 Speaker 2: some guys that played for the Cardinals. Antonio Smith and 1009 00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:25,279 Speaker 2: Darnell Docket used to work out together. 1010 00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:25,720 Speaker 3: Yeah. 1011 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,200 Speaker 2: And then when we worked out together, yeah exactly. Yeah, 1012 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 2: and when we when we started playing, uh in the games, 1013 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 2: I mean they hated me. The Cardinals were playing well, 1014 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:35,040 Speaker 2: I was on the Rams and we were ship and 1015 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 2: I was like, I'm just gonna try and fuck these 1016 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 2: guys up, you know, not them, but everybody that was 1017 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 2: on that field. I was gonna take it out on them. 1018 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:45,400 Speaker 2: But yeah, it was they had just clinched. The NFC 1019 00:40:45,560 --> 00:40:47,680 Speaker 2: West were down in Arizona. I got my whole family 1020 00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,120 Speaker 2: there and I'm coming off the field and like we 1021 00:40:50,200 --> 00:40:52,000 Speaker 2: were talking ship, you know, you get separated walk away. 1022 00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:53,480 Speaker 3: I just turned around because there was a bunch of them. 1023 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 3: There was like three or four of them coming, So 1024 00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 3: I was like. 1025 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:58,200 Speaker 2: I'm going over here, and Antonio Smith full ninja kicks 1026 00:40:58,280 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 2: me like on the back of the legs and I 1027 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,520 Speaker 2: go down on the field and he gets a penalty flag. 1028 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,560 Speaker 2: But yeah, with Antonio, I think he took my helmet 1029 00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:05,320 Speaker 2: off and swung it at me. 1030 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:05,759 Speaker 3: One time. 1031 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,640 Speaker 2: I was getting getting after him in pass Pro and 1032 00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:10,080 Speaker 2: I had my hand up in his face and you know, 1033 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,080 Speaker 2: doing all sorts of crazy stuff. He took my helmet 1034 00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 2: off and swung it at me, and thank god, it 1035 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 2: was like two feet away from my face. 1036 00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:17,960 Speaker 3: I was just like he was scared. 1037 00:41:18,160 --> 00:41:20,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he didn't make contact like Miles, but yeah, but 1038 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,400 Speaker 2: we always had good battles. 1039 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 3: They were great players, and me and me and Dockett, 1040 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:25,040 Speaker 3: we'd go back and forth. 1041 00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,160 Speaker 2: He was a great player, and they'd always put him 1042 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 2: on me, Like when we played the pass they'd always 1043 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:29,560 Speaker 2: put big vins on me. 1044 00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like my badge, Like, hey, I made it. 1045 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 2: Like Bill over there thinks that I'm good enough that 1046 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,160 Speaker 2: they're gonna put their best defensive linement on me. Take 1047 00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 2: me out of the game, and me and Big Vince 1048 00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 2: Man we used to go at it, and I love 1049 00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 2: I love Big Vince Man. He's awesome. 1050 00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 3: Remember he hood he on the pick or he lit 1051 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,439 Speaker 3: someone up when he dropped on one play. Oh yeah, yeah, 1052 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 3: I saw that on film. He dude, he's a fucking 1053 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,960 Speaker 3: beast man. He was so good. I mean, he's one 1054 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 3: of the best nose guards ever in there. He really is. 1055 00:41:56,280 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 3: He's he's definitely he should be a Hall of Fame. 1056 00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,719 Speaker 1: He gets a lot of he didn't get a lot 1057 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 1: of his numbers won't show that he's a Hall of 1058 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,640 Speaker 1: Famer because he did so like he would take double 1059 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:08,320 Speaker 1: teams and pressures and like he dictated a lot of 1060 00:42:08,600 --> 00:42:09,879 Speaker 1: offensive line play. 1061 00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,480 Speaker 3: Oh, no doubt. You had to account for him. 1062 00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,040 Speaker 2: I mean he was like he was the guy there forever, 1063 00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,160 Speaker 2: and he the commotion that he caused in the middle 1064 00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 2: would take some teams out of their game. 1065 00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 3: There. I forget what year. I think it was two thousand. 1066 00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,480 Speaker 2: I think it was twenty eleven and they were doing 1067 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:28,480 Speaker 2: a Sports Illustrated piece on him, and you guys ran 1068 00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:32,000 Speaker 2: like a double linebacker blitz and he started off this 1069 00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,839 Speaker 2: way and came back this way, and this linebacker came 1070 00:42:33,880 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 2: down and we hit knee to knee. So I went 1071 00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:39,720 Speaker 2: down and I go down. I think he gets the sack. 1072 00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,360 Speaker 2: We're in Vegas after the season and it's Vince on 1073 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 2: the cover Sports Illustrated and I'm laying on the ground. 1074 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,400 Speaker 2: It looks like he threw me on the ground and 1075 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:49,319 Speaker 2: is running out the quarterback and I'm like, great, I'm 1076 00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 2: on cover Sports Illustrated, but I'm on the ground flopping around. 1077 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:53,360 Speaker 3: Fucking Vince. 1078 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 2: I would always try not piss offense, you know what 1079 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,560 Speaker 2: I mean. Like me and Vince, we had come out together. 1080 00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:59,480 Speaker 2: We were the same age. He went to Miami. They 1081 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:01,120 Speaker 2: wanted me to play d line at Miami. I went 1082 00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,879 Speaker 2: to Nebraska. I wanted to play offensive line. And uh, 1083 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 2: I would never do Vince dirty like I would. I 1084 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:07,279 Speaker 2: would always helping him up. 1085 00:43:07,320 --> 00:43:09,680 Speaker 3: Hey, big book, come on like so like we you know, 1086 00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 3: we get after we compete, but like I always made 1087 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:14,759 Speaker 3: sure to take care of my guy, Vince. Fucking v 1088 00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 3: Man he's athletic as hell too. He's got some great feet. 1089 00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 3: People don't realize he's He's like, well, he's lost a 1090 00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 3: lot of weight now he's looking good then. But he 1091 00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:26,680 Speaker 3: used to be like four feet five feet wide, but 1092 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 3: he had ballerina feet. Yeah, quick feet. 1093 00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 5: We got to get him on this damn show We 1094 00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:31,920 Speaker 5: do talk. 1095 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,000 Speaker 4: You were recruited by Miami. 1096 00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was recruited by Miami coming out. 1097 00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:38,200 Speaker 2: That's basically who came down to Nebraska Miami Wow, And 1098 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:41,160 Speaker 2: they kept it was Greg Gianno. They kept pushing hard 1099 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,759 Speaker 2: for me to play defensive line, and uh I just 1100 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 2: didn't like defense. I didn't like you had to pull 1101 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,920 Speaker 2: off the quarterback like. I didn't like you know, I 1102 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 2: played D line like I was playing old line. I 1103 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 2: was like pushing people around and blocking. I was just 1104 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:53,879 Speaker 2: so much better offensive line. I like knowing to play, 1105 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 2: I like being able to go attack. So uh so, Yeah, 1106 00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:59,440 Speaker 2: then it came down to Miami and Nebraska in the 1107 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 2: road that year for the National Championship. Any good recruiting trips, 1108 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 2: I only went to Nebraska. I knew I wanted to 1109 00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,000 Speaker 2: go to Nebraska, So I went to Nebraska. Had had 1110 00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 2: a good time and Uh, you know, I went there 1111 00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,840 Speaker 2: to win. I went there because they're they're weightlifting and 1112 00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:14,920 Speaker 2: their training like we were doing combine drills back in 1113 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,280 Speaker 2: two thousand and one, and so the training was awesome, 1114 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 2: The lifting was everything. 1115 00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,279 Speaker 3: The only thing we didn't do was win. So how 1116 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:24,600 Speaker 3: co last last thing on the Bears? I remember we played. 1117 00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:26,239 Speaker 1: I played in a snow game there and when it 1118 00:44:26,360 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 1: was like the renovation and I think they just got 1119 00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:30,800 Speaker 1: plans for a new stadium, didn't they. It's gonna be 1120 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: it's gonna be sad because that's a fucking cool stadium 1121 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:33,200 Speaker 1: to play. 1122 00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like a space ship. Yeah, like a spaceship 1123 00:44:35,480 --> 00:44:38,360 Speaker 3: landed in. But they also have the old thing around it, 1124 00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 3: like the pillars and stuff. Yeah. 1125 00:44:40,280 --> 00:44:42,759 Speaker 2: I played some cold games up there, man, cold games 1126 00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 2: late in the year up there. But yeah, it's it's 1127 00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:45,520 Speaker 2: a special place. 1128 00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:46,719 Speaker 3: Man. They're great at sports down. 1129 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,160 Speaker 4: Do you like a cold games as an offensive lineman? 1130 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:51,480 Speaker 3: I mean yes and no. It depends. You know, if 1131 00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 3: it's it's gonna be cold and windy, that's that's fine. 1132 00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 2: But if it's gonna be cold, there's gonna be a 1133 00:44:55,320 --> 00:44:57,440 Speaker 2: little precipitation, there's gonna be a little rain. Little snow 1134 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,080 Speaker 2: something like that. Yeah, then you run into a v 1135 00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 2: issue and I like, I like clean fast tracks. I 1136 00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,759 Speaker 2: want to see both teams on clean fast tracks. I 1137 00:45:04,840 --> 00:45:06,920 Speaker 2: played indoors my first five years in Saint Louis, so 1138 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,920 Speaker 2: we always had it. We always knew we'd have to 1139 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:13,040 Speaker 2: factor in weather or some dumb shit happening. So like, yeah, 1140 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,719 Speaker 2: I like clean track. I like clean tracks. I just 1141 00:45:15,760 --> 00:45:17,919 Speaker 2: don't like if it's gonna be cold, it just better 1142 00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,240 Speaker 2: not rain. If it's if it's raining and cold, that's. 1143 00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:22,200 Speaker 3: Not it's the worst. I rather have snow than rain 1144 00:45:22,239 --> 00:45:22,919 Speaker 3: one hundred percent. 1145 00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:25,160 Speaker 2: But then, but then, also like being up north and 1146 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 2: being a team up north, you gotta worry about the heat. 1147 00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,600 Speaker 3: You gotta worry about going to Miami in September. 1148 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:32,240 Speaker 1: That's why we'd always get you know, it'd be thirty degrees, 1149 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:35,200 Speaker 1: twenty two degrees in Foxburg. We got at Miami, it's 1150 00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 1: eighty two, seventy eight percent humidity just shocks us. We 1151 00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:41,920 Speaker 1: would wed that'd be the only time we'd practice in 1152 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,480 Speaker 1: the bubble. Is when we were going in December to 1153 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,600 Speaker 1: play against Miami, and Bill would turn the heat up 1154 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:49,240 Speaker 1: for three days and they would put they would spray 1155 00:45:49,239 --> 00:45:51,319 Speaker 1: it in there and try to make the humidity really 1156 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,640 Speaker 1: and we'd have to wear long sleeves. They wanted us 1157 00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:57,400 Speaker 1: to sweat. Yeah, so it chocked your system. You know, 1158 00:45:57,440 --> 00:45:59,800 Speaker 1: you had to get used to it. Well, you know, 1159 00:46:00,040 --> 00:46:01,640 Speaker 1: you know, going to that, you're gonna cramp up. You know, 1160 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 1: coming out of the game. It's the cramps are gonna 1161 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: hit me. Just hopefully not in the second quarter. Hopefully 1162 00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:06,600 Speaker 1: they wait till the fourth quarter. 1163 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,400 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was always pretty good though, you know, with 1164 00:46:10,080 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 3: just the hydration in the calorie and take. 1165 00:46:12,600 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 5: You got it. 1166 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:14,840 Speaker 3: If you'd stay on top of it, you're straight. 1167 00:46:14,960 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll playing down there, man, we're practicing that shit 1168 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:17,960 Speaker 2: every day. 1169 00:46:18,040 --> 00:46:20,279 Speaker 3: That's the killer. I had some tough you know. 1170 00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:22,520 Speaker 2: I had Bill Parcells and Tony Sperano down there, and 1171 00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:24,160 Speaker 2: we're gonna practice at one o'clock. 1172 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,719 Speaker 3: We're gonna use the heat to our advantage. And I 1173 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,400 Speaker 3: mean it tore us up. How's how was the tuna? 1174 00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:30,239 Speaker 3: Tuna is awesome? Man, he was great. 1175 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:31,920 Speaker 2: He would come by and he would just give you 1176 00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:35,520 Speaker 2: like a quick one line or like you're Richie pass blocking. 1177 00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:37,200 Speaker 2: He was just staying in front of the other guy. 1178 00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,400 Speaker 2: Hell yeah, all right, man. He was awesome, though. The 1179 00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 2: tuna was awesome. I got a good story about him. 1180 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 2: So they had signed a free agent center the year 1181 00:46:46,640 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 2: before I got there. He was kind of like setting 1182 00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:51,799 Speaker 2: his own ways and like, you know, he wasn't really 1183 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 2: a team first guy. And he had some small injury 1184 00:46:55,920 --> 00:46:58,040 Speaker 2: and they said, hey, you should be playing. 1185 00:46:58,080 --> 00:46:59,399 Speaker 3: He was like, no, I'm hurt. I can't play. 1186 00:47:00,120 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 2: So he was in the second year of his deal 1187 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:06,880 Speaker 2: and he's down there and one day Bill Parcells is like, 1188 00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 2: we're gonna run this guy till he quits. So he 1189 00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:11,960 Speaker 2: had the strength coach run this guy on half gassers. 1190 00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,200 Speaker 2: This is Miami, full throat heat, and this kid's just 1191 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,160 Speaker 2: running gasters, running gasters, running gasters. And basically he got 1192 00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:20,279 Speaker 2: to the point where he was just walking back and 1193 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,520 Speaker 2: forth and he would walk over and he'd come back 1194 00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 2: and the strength coach would look. 1195 00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 3: At Parcels, and Parcels'd be like, yep, make him run 1196 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:28,359 Speaker 3: another and he went boom boom boom boom boom boom boop. 1197 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,960 Speaker 3: Next day cut him. Geez. It was brutal, man. It 1198 00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:32,880 Speaker 3: was some crazy stuff like that going on. That was 1199 00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,920 Speaker 3: an old That was the old days. Jack. You let's 1200 00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:44,919 Speaker 3: get into these Raiders. The Raiders, don't you mean the Raiders? Baby? 1201 00:47:45,000 --> 00:47:47,279 Speaker 5: This was the sixtieth year of the Raiders, maybe the 1202 00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,880 Speaker 5: sixtieth season. Pretty sweet seven and nine record, third in 1203 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 5: the AFC West. This was the second year of the 1204 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:56,760 Speaker 5: Gruden era OC Greg Olsen not the tight end, different spelling, 1205 00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,799 Speaker 5: Paul gunn Through running the defense. Coming off a FOURIGN 1206 00:47:59,800 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 5: two season, and unfortunately this was the last year in Oakland, baby, 1207 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 5: the last year man. And this was the first year 1208 00:48:06,239 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 5: of the Mayok era as GM first full season. Uh, 1209 00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,680 Speaker 5: this was Richie's first year in Oakland two. And we'd 1210 00:48:12,719 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 5: be remissive we didn't talk about Ab there in the 1211 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,680 Speaker 5: preseason shortly crazy. 1212 00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:21,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, sure, his locker was right next to mine, his 1213 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:22,880 Speaker 2: locker was right next to I love AB, I mean 1214 00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 2: I thought he was a hell of a player. Yeah, 1215 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 2: I wish, I really wish it would have worked out 1216 00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:28,960 Speaker 2: for us and he would have played for us because 1217 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:29,319 Speaker 2: we need him. 1218 00:48:29,320 --> 00:48:30,440 Speaker 3: I mean, look at these numbers right here. 1219 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 2: Derek Carr seventy percent completion, four thousand yards passing, twenty 1220 00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:37,200 Speaker 2: one touchdowns, eight interceptions, and that's without Ab. Ab was 1221 00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,120 Speaker 2: supposed to be the number one Josh Jacobs he's a rookie. 1222 00:48:40,120 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 2: Two hundred and forty two carries, eleven hundred and fifty yards, 1223 00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 2: seven touchdowns, Waller ninety receptions eleven hundred yards. 1224 00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:48,640 Speaker 3: I mean, we probably would have won the Super Bowl 1225 00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:50,479 Speaker 3: if he stayed on our team that year, no doubt. 1226 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,719 Speaker 3: I mean he's a difference maker, bro literally, Like we 1227 00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:56,600 Speaker 3: had him for two weeks in Miami. 1228 00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,480 Speaker 4: The Miami game, we had two touchdowns. 1229 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,759 Speaker 1: He had two touchdowns, but we had him and it 1230 00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,719 Speaker 1: was the cleanest practices I've ever seen as far as 1231 00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: because Ab was there. Josh Gordon was starting to make 1232 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:12,120 Speaker 1: everyone the play went up because you know, you see 1233 00:49:12,160 --> 00:49:14,600 Speaker 1: a b you'd see you know, Ab would run a 1234 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 1: crazy route. 1235 00:49:15,560 --> 00:49:18,000 Speaker 3: There wasn't a ball on the ground, like for the 1236 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 3: two weeks, I'm touching everything. Well, no, I'm saying for 1237 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:21,080 Speaker 3: the whole team. 1238 00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:24,600 Speaker 1: Oh really, just the execution of the team because everyone, 1239 00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:26,640 Speaker 1: you know, he brought everyone like, everyone's like, all right, 1240 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,680 Speaker 1: AB's here. I want to show what I could do, 1241 00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,360 Speaker 1: you know. So then Josh Boyce made a play, or 1242 00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:34,640 Speaker 1: Philip dor said he started making play, you know what 1243 00:49:34,680 --> 00:49:34,880 Speaker 1: I mean. 1244 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:35,759 Speaker 3: It was crazy, it was. 1245 00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 5: It was it was good. 1246 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 3: I just wish we had him end of the season. 1247 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:40,719 Speaker 3: Same here. I wish we had him more. 1248 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:45,680 Speaker 2: We had him in OTAs and he was electric. I 1249 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:48,560 Speaker 2: mean Daim and Derek Derek. Derek's the hell of a quarterback. 1250 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:51,840 Speaker 2: I got a lot of respect for Derek. But he 1251 00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:53,960 Speaker 2: throws some balls and ab come down with that thing. 1252 00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 2: He comes sprinting back the huddle and it go do 1253 00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 2: it again. And I was like, oh, man, I can't 1254 00:49:57,640 --> 00:49:59,160 Speaker 2: wait to play with this dude. Like, let's go. 1255 00:49:59,560 --> 00:50:02,239 Speaker 3: Any f stories with aby, funny stories. I mean, no, 1256 00:50:02,680 --> 00:50:04,200 Speaker 3: like the the one A B story I had. 1257 00:50:04,280 --> 00:50:06,279 Speaker 2: You know, no one's allowed in the locker room, right, 1258 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,719 Speaker 2: like nobody outside, And like I would come in from 1259 00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 2: practice after OTAs and he'd have a couple of people there, 1260 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,640 Speaker 2: you know, guy taking pictures and this, that and the other, 1261 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:14,680 Speaker 2: and one of these kids is sitting in my locker 1262 00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,359 Speaker 2: and I'm like, who the fuck are you get out 1263 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:18,560 Speaker 2: of my fucking seat. 1264 00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:19,279 Speaker 3: Baby. 1265 00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,640 Speaker 5: He's like, no, no, he's with me. He's with me. 1266 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:22,480 Speaker 3: I was like, I'm about to punch this nerd in 1267 00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:25,319 Speaker 3: the face, like what are you doing in my seat? Bro? 1268 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, ab ah man, he's the fuck brought their 1269 00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:32,920 Speaker 3: little brother to the locker room. 1270 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,920 Speaker 5: Bro, nothing like stuffing a nerd in the locker when 1271 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:36,759 Speaker 5: he's already in the locker. 1272 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:41,759 Speaker 3: It just sets the tone. And this was, uh, this 1273 00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:42,160 Speaker 3: was all. 1274 00:50:42,200 --> 00:50:43,880 Speaker 5: I mean, this was a great rookie class for the 1275 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 5: Raiders too. We already talked about Josh Jacobs, our boy, 1276 00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:50,360 Speaker 5: Max Crosby, Cleveland, Farrell, Hunter, Renfro, like this was a 1277 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:51,279 Speaker 5: good Mayock draft. 1278 00:50:51,400 --> 00:50:53,760 Speaker 3: I mean pretty sweet. This was awesome. 1279 00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,000 Speaker 2: I mean, I wish we still had a Hunter on 1280 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,680 Speaker 2: the team. I was still had Waller on the team. 1281 00:50:57,120 --> 00:50:58,399 Speaker 2: Wish Josh on the team. 1282 00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,319 Speaker 5: I can't believe it. I can't believe him was still 1283 00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:00,799 Speaker 5: a free agent. 1284 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 2: I know that's insane, man, I know, I can't believe 1285 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:05,120 Speaker 2: that some one of these coaches hasn't said, let me 1286 00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,080 Speaker 2: pick that guy up and I'm gonna put a whole 1287 00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 2: package in for Han Renfro. That's why Gruden was so great, 1288 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 2: because he he could get guys open. He would scheme 1289 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,360 Speaker 2: stuff up, he would see stuff. You know, he's like McVeigh. 1290 00:51:14,440 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 2: They they see this game at such a high level 1291 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 2: in these matchups and like, all right, we're gonna do this. 1292 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:19,080 Speaker 3: They do this, We're gonna do this. 1293 00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: But Jacoby though Jacoby Meyer is good baller. Yeah, hell yeah, 1294 00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,960 Speaker 1: yeah he is a he is a I was so 1295 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,400 Speaker 1: mad when the Patriots let him walk. I thought he 1296 00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: would have been He's electric. 1297 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:35,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's a run game. Yeah, he works hard. He 1298 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,680 Speaker 3: makes some crazy catches, like he throws his body around 1299 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:40,000 Speaker 3: out there. He's also great at release game. He's great 1300 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,040 Speaker 3: at running routes. Yeah, he can win on man coverage. Yeah. 1301 00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:45,399 Speaker 3: I've seen some catchers during camp. You're like, damn, that's 1302 00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:47,719 Speaker 3: that's a big time right there. It's been fun to 1303 00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 3: watch him. You guys were feature on Hard Knocks. What's 1304 00:51:50,040 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 3: it like having cameras knocks? Yeah, second time, that's my 1305 00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 3: second time. Yeah. I was on it once with the 1306 00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:57,400 Speaker 3: Dolphins and then this time Dolphins. You weren't there with 1307 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:01,120 Speaker 3: No that was Dolan Dola. Was Chad Johnson on that 1308 00:52:01,160 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 3: team in Miami. 1309 00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:03,600 Speaker 4: Yeah yeah Hard Knocks? 1310 00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:08,000 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah he was. Yeah, another guy I was excited 1311 00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 3: to play with. I was like, fuck, yeah, we got 1312 00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:10,279 Speaker 3: o Joe Sinkle. Let's go. 1313 00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:12,399 Speaker 2: And then he's gone before the season starts. I don't 1314 00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:14,920 Speaker 2: know something happened, but yeah, the Hard Knocks is cool. 1315 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:16,919 Speaker 2: I mean there's cameras everywhere. It gets annoying after a while, 1316 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 2: you know, you're just you know, at first the cameras everywhere, 1317 00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 2: they're kind of a distraction, and then you kind of 1318 00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:23,400 Speaker 2: kind of phase him out. 1319 00:52:23,400 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 3: You don't think about it, and then at the end 1320 00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:26,840 Speaker 3: of camp you're like, get out of here. But you 1321 00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:29,799 Speaker 3: guys are performing. There's gotta be guys out there like, man, 1322 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:31,720 Speaker 3: oh yeah, I'll do all sorts of dumb stuff. 1323 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, big fines for that, they get fined, I find 1324 00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:38,799 Speaker 2: I'll find them, I'll find what's what's what's the richie fine? 1325 00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,520 Speaker 2: Like we got the stupid fucking rookie fine, you know, 1326 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 2: being just a dumb ass rookie. 1327 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,239 Speaker 3: That's a fine, you know. 1328 00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:47,360 Speaker 2: And then then you know, I played back in the 1329 00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 2: day when you know, I I held the fine book, 1330 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,840 Speaker 2: you paid the fine. I collected the money, and I 1331 00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:54,800 Speaker 2: made up the fines. But we'd always have fun with it. 1332 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,239 Speaker 2: We'd always take it on a trip. We always get 1333 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:57,759 Speaker 2: a PJ and go somewhere after the season. So the 1334 00:52:57,840 --> 00:52:59,320 Speaker 2: boys kind of everyone always loved it. 1335 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:06,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, the stupid fucking rookie fine, that's that far far, Like, what. 1336 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,840 Speaker 4: What does a rookie have to do to get that fine? 1337 00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:10,919 Speaker 2: I mean, they could do anything. They could be talking 1338 00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 2: to the GM. They could they could have some quotes 1339 00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 2: in the media. 1340 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:15,120 Speaker 6: You know. 1341 00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:16,800 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I can't wait to play and do this. 1342 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,000 Speaker 2: He's like, bro, you're the third string right tackle. You're 1343 00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:19,879 Speaker 2: not gonna see the day. 1344 00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 3: Shut up. 1345 00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:24,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, rookies are just so funny because they 1346 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,440 Speaker 2: are just so lost. Some of them, you know, they 1347 00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,560 Speaker 2: are just they have no which way. They don't know 1348 00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,600 Speaker 2: which way's up. But yeah, we had we had a 1349 00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,560 Speaker 2: bunch of fines man talking to the GM or talking 1350 00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:33,960 Speaker 2: to the head coach. That was a big one. Not 1351 00:53:34,000 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 2: even a rookie, just anybody. You just can't Why can't 1352 00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:37,920 Speaker 2: you talk to where you're trying to big time us. 1353 00:53:38,080 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 2: You know, you're going above our heads. We're trying to 1354 00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 2: get a pay raise or something. We used to keep 1355 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:46,879 Speaker 2: the fun you know, fifty bucks here, seventy five bucks there, 1356 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:51,320 Speaker 2: that is fine. Oh frick I don't know, man. We 1357 00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 2: used to The thing with the fine book was we 1358 00:53:53,480 --> 00:53:55,600 Speaker 2: had the fines we wrote them all down. Everybody was 1359 00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:59,360 Speaker 2: in agreement, and then you had to pay by the 1360 00:53:59,480 --> 00:54:02,000 Speaker 2: next game. So Saturday, everyone was bringing me money, you know, 1361 00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:03,480 Speaker 2: bringing me cash, and then I give it to another 1362 00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:05,800 Speaker 2: offensive lineman. We had the safe in the locker. He 1363 00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 2: keep it up there, so we ran. I didn't do 1364 00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:11,840 Speaker 2: this every season, but a couple of seasons we did 1365 00:54:11,880 --> 00:54:12,720 Speaker 2: this and we had a blast. 1366 00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:13,120 Speaker 4: You know. 1367 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,600 Speaker 2: One year we got on a jet went down to 1368 00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:16,120 Speaker 2: the island to play golf for like a week and 1369 00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 2: it's all on fine money and sometimes the find money 1370 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:20,160 Speaker 2: won't cover it, and a couple of visits just throw 1371 00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:21,279 Speaker 2: on top and just go have fun. 1372 00:54:21,360 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 3: So that's awesome. It's camaraderie, that's it. Man's great in buying. 1373 00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:26,680 Speaker 3: You know, you got to get these guys. 1374 00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:27,560 Speaker 4: You know. 1375 00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 2: Offensive linemen are like Gray's animals. You know, they just 1376 00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:31,880 Speaker 2: kind of hang out and they do their thing, and 1377 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:33,719 Speaker 2: you know they want to work hard. They'll work hard 1378 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,239 Speaker 2: and they'll do this. But to be a great offensive line, 1379 00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:37,919 Speaker 2: you have to be the lifeblood of the entire team. 1380 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:39,680 Speaker 2: You have to be the hardest working guys. You got 1381 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,640 Speaker 2: to be setting the standard every day. You know what 1382 00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:44,680 Speaker 2: the standard is. You got to you gotta show up 1383 00:54:44,800 --> 00:54:46,840 Speaker 2: and prove the standard every day so that you can 1384 00:54:46,880 --> 00:54:49,200 Speaker 2: get everybody else to fall in line. And that's what 1385 00:54:49,320 --> 00:54:51,440 Speaker 2: I was to offensive linesman. I was that hot poker. 1386 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:53,279 Speaker 2: I was that guy stern shit up. 1387 00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:53,920 Speaker 5: You know, I was. 1388 00:54:54,280 --> 00:54:56,640 Speaker 2: I was holding up the standard we're training, sleep, nutrition, 1389 00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,919 Speaker 2: playing well. And I was very vocal about other guys 1390 00:55:00,080 --> 00:55:02,640 Speaker 2: and getting them to grow up and become pros accountability. 1391 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, man, it's at the pro game. It's so tough. 1392 00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,719 Speaker 2: It's so tough to get all these guys to come together. 1393 00:55:06,760 --> 00:55:08,080 Speaker 2: You know, you were in New England. You guys had 1394 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,640 Speaker 2: a very unique situation. I played on a lot of 1395 00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:12,560 Speaker 2: teams that we were just fighting to be eight and eight, 1396 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 2: you know, and you're just trying to get everybody in 1397 00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:16,560 Speaker 2: the boat rowing in the same direction. And I think, 1398 00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,279 Speaker 2: you know, that's that's really what my stecial was getting 1399 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 2: the guys to come together, getting the guys bought in 1400 00:55:21,080 --> 00:55:23,279 Speaker 2: because you know, they see me every day running like 1401 00:55:23,400 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 2: crazy after practice and watching film with the young guys 1402 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,640 Speaker 2: and doing all this stuff, and it raises everybody else's 1403 00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:30,279 Speaker 2: level of play. 1404 00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's the that's the difference. You know, there 1405 00:55:33,760 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 3: was one of you on that team. 1406 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:37,920 Speaker 1: There was twenty five of those guys on like our 1407 00:55:38,120 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: our team, Yeah, no doubt, you know what I mean. 1408 00:55:40,200 --> 00:55:43,279 Speaker 1: So that everyone talks of the Patriot way, It's like 1409 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 1: if everyone was like that where you make it a 1410 00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:50,640 Speaker 1: competition to make everyone better. Right, So if you're in 1411 00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,120 Speaker 1: the weight room, I'm gonna do more in you. Oh no, 1412 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:54,399 Speaker 1: you're not doing more in me. I'm gonna do more 1413 00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:54,560 Speaker 1: in you. 1414 00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:55,400 Speaker 3: The more you can do. 1415 00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,239 Speaker 1: That was like the saying around our thing. And it's 1416 00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 1: crazy because I've never been in a locker room where 1417 00:56:00,040 --> 00:56:03,200 Speaker 1: it's been like that. You know, Richie's been in a 1418 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 1: lot of locker rooms where you know which I've heard that. 1419 00:56:07,360 --> 00:56:09,200 Speaker 1: You know, a lot of guys aren't there just to 1420 00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,879 Speaker 1: play football. You know, people, a lot of guys want 1421 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:14,520 Speaker 1: to be famous. A lot of guys want to get money. 1422 00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 1: You know when when you always hear the GM or 1423 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:21,799 Speaker 1: the coach say we want guys that love football. That's 1424 00:56:21,960 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 1: like the core of like how you have success. 1425 00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:27,560 Speaker 3: Guys that are you know, able to be in a team, 1426 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:31,880 Speaker 3: that understand mental toughness, which is doing something that's best 1427 00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,680 Speaker 3: for the team when it's not necessarily best for you. 1428 00:56:35,520 --> 00:56:37,400 Speaker 3: That was on our board, you know. 1429 00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:41,640 Speaker 1: So you know, it's it sucks because guys like you know, 1430 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,400 Speaker 1: guys like you that tried to hold people to that standard. 1431 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,719 Speaker 3: You didn't play in very many important games. Fuck, you 1432 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,360 Speaker 3: know what, I mean to playoff appearances. But then you 1433 00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 3: got you know, guys that go onto that you know, 1434 00:56:54,360 --> 00:56:56,160 Speaker 3: come onto a team like ours, or you go to 1435 00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:59,040 Speaker 3: the Chiefs where it's like that. You know, some guys 1436 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 3: take that ship for granted and they're there for one year. 1437 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,640 Speaker 3: They don't realize it's not like that everywhere. 1438 00:57:02,760 --> 00:57:05,200 Speaker 2: Right, Well, it's culture, right, You're like, it's hard to 1439 00:57:05,239 --> 00:57:08,319 Speaker 2: find guys that truly love football, right, that truly love 1440 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,440 Speaker 2: football and that are going to be a professional and 1441 00:57:10,560 --> 00:57:12,920 Speaker 2: have their process and have their way of preparing and 1442 00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 2: have their way of taking care of their body and 1443 00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 2: being able to set the standard out there on the field. 1444 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,480 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's hard to find those guys. And 1445 00:57:20,520 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 2: when you when you're on these teams and you're seven 1446 00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:24,600 Speaker 2: and nine and you're coming back and you're thinking, all right, 1447 00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:25,640 Speaker 2: we have all these studs. 1448 00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:26,560 Speaker 3: We're coming back. 1449 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 2: We're seven and nine, two or three wins were over 1450 00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,000 Speaker 2: the hump, we're in the playoffs, we're playing in media 1451 00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 2: ful games. 1452 00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:33,560 Speaker 3: So that was what was always driving me. It was like, 1453 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:35,480 Speaker 3: let's get this shit right, Like eight to eight is 1454 00:57:35,600 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 3: not good enough, and like to get. 1455 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:41,640 Speaker 2: Guys to come in and buy in, you know, I've 1456 00:57:41,680 --> 00:57:43,840 Speaker 2: been on teams where we start out the season, you 1457 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,600 Speaker 2: lose the first two games, and it's like we're coming off. 1458 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,440 Speaker 3: We're coming off in eight eight season, We're coming back. 1459 00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:49,520 Speaker 3: You know. We lose the first two games and kind 1460 00:57:49,560 --> 00:57:50,440 Speaker 3: of heartbreaking fashion. 1461 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,360 Speaker 2: One game, it was raining, some bullshit happened and everyone's 1462 00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:56,360 Speaker 2: kind of scattering like roaches, and it's like, dude, we're 1463 00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 2: two weeks into this. We got another three months of this. 1464 00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 2: Boy was like, let's fucking go. And I think that's 1465 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 2: what I would hope. You know what my teammates say. 1466 00:58:05,080 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 2: You know, I was in that foxhole. I was ready 1467 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:08,800 Speaker 2: to go every fucking day. I was ready to bring 1468 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:10,480 Speaker 2: the noise. I was ready to fu. I was ready 1469 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 2: to go out there, start ship, protect my guys, get 1470 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 2: the boys going. And that's what I prided myself on, 1471 00:58:16,560 --> 00:58:18,320 Speaker 2: being a leader, being that guy that set the standard, 1472 00:58:18,360 --> 00:58:20,480 Speaker 2: being the guy that will call out guys who aren't 1473 00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:24,840 Speaker 2: setting the standard, who aren't performing to the standard. But yeah, 1474 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 2: you know, I fought my whole life just to play 1475 00:58:26,720 --> 00:58:27,640 Speaker 2: in two playoff games. 1476 00:58:28,000 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 3: Yeah you know, And that's that's that's how real this 1477 00:58:30,920 --> 00:58:33,760 Speaker 3: game is. It's hard to win, man, It's hard it's 1478 00:58:33,800 --> 00:58:36,000 Speaker 3: hard to win. It's hard to win, and it's hard 1479 00:58:36,080 --> 00:58:40,560 Speaker 3: to win consistently. Hard to win consistently. What makes you 1480 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 3: a raider? Oh the whole thing, man, I'm the whole package, 1481 00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:47,920 Speaker 3: the raider. The word like when you ever you hear 1482 00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 3: someone like, well, he's he's he's gritty. 1483 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 2: I mean, my thing was, I was gonna fly around. 1484 00:58:54,040 --> 00:58:55,440 Speaker 2: I was going to cause a bunch of havoc. I 1485 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:56,880 Speaker 2: was going to beat people up. I was going to 1486 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 2: drop people on their head. I was trying to pancake 1487 00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,840 Speaker 2: everybody I came in contact with. And that brought the 1488 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,720 Speaker 2: other guys around along too. 1489 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 6: You know. 1490 00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:08,120 Speaker 2: They brought me in here to mentor Colton Miller. He 1491 00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,360 Speaker 2: was their young left tackle. They spent the fifteenth overall 1492 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:13,200 Speaker 2: pick on him in twenty eighteen. I came in and 1493 00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:14,960 Speaker 2: he was nervous wreck. I got in the huddle the 1494 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:18,760 Speaker 2: first day, oh this, and I was like after practice, 1495 00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:21,360 Speaker 2: so I was like, listen, brother, shut up. Let me 1496 00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:23,200 Speaker 2: listen to the center, and I'm going to tell you 1497 00:59:23,320 --> 00:59:25,720 Speaker 2: what to do on every single play. And that's why 1498 00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:27,280 Speaker 2: I was really good to get about getting young guys 1499 00:59:27,320 --> 00:59:30,040 Speaker 2: come along, Colton Miller, Dion Dawkins, and Buffalo, a couple 1500 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:31,480 Speaker 2: other guys. You know, these guys had to come in 1501 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,760 Speaker 2: and they had to play really fast and to just 1502 00:59:33,840 --> 00:59:36,480 Speaker 2: be able to be like, hey, you have that guy, 1503 00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,080 Speaker 2: you have that guy. You do this so but I think, 1504 00:59:39,240 --> 00:59:41,000 Speaker 2: you know, going back to being a raider, I just 1505 00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,080 Speaker 2: I was kind of this journeyman. I played for a 1506 00:59:43,120 --> 00:59:46,120 Speaker 2: bunch of different teams. I had a crazy reputation, you know, 1507 00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,640 Speaker 2: always always in some shit off the field, always going 1508 00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,280 Speaker 2: through some stuff, and you know, I just kept rolling 1509 00:59:51,320 --> 00:59:52,320 Speaker 2: along and I just kept going. 1510 00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,120 Speaker 3: And that's that's what a raider is. A raider is. 1511 00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:56,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's not always gonna be perfect, but as 1512 00:59:56,600 --> 00:59:58,480 Speaker 2: long as you keep moving forward and you keep coming 1513 00:59:58,520 --> 01:00:00,440 Speaker 2: to fight every day, you know, you have that spirit 1514 01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:02,840 Speaker 2: about you, that essence. That's what to me is being 1515 01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 2: a raider, you know, being that guy, being that guy 1516 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,240 Speaker 2: every day, being that tough guy, being that that. 1517 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 3: That hard minded individual. 1518 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:13,080 Speaker 2: When it's week sixteen, everybody's fucking hurt and everyone's tired, 1519 01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:15,320 Speaker 2: and I'm out there running half gassers after practice, you know, 1520 01:00:15,400 --> 01:00:19,080 Speaker 2: it's that it's that that that switch you flip and uh, 1521 01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:20,800 Speaker 2: you know, go out there and dominate. 1522 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:24,200 Speaker 3: Who's the mount Rushmore Raiders. Mount Rushmore Raiders is a 1523 01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:24,640 Speaker 3: good question. 1524 01:00:24,680 --> 01:00:27,240 Speaker 2: I mean, it's got to be Jim Otto, gotta be 1525 01:00:27,320 --> 01:00:31,840 Speaker 2: Kenny Stabler, Uh, Gene Upshaw. You know another offensive lineman, 1526 01:00:32,280 --> 01:00:38,200 Speaker 2: Marcus Allen, Fred Blitnikoff, so many great names. 1527 01:00:38,360 --> 01:00:40,040 Speaker 3: How long, how long? Oh, Howie long? 1528 01:00:40,160 --> 01:00:40,240 Speaker 6: Oh? 1529 01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,200 Speaker 3: I love Howie Oh. I can't believe I forgot how 1530 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 3: he No. I love Howie Man. I work with how dude. 1531 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:45,840 Speaker 3: How he's the man. He's the man. 1532 01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,080 Speaker 2: I love how he lives right next to me in Scottsdale, 1533 01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:49,840 Speaker 2: so I'll go grab lunch with him every now and again. 1534 01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,440 Speaker 3: And I played with both his son. 1535 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:51,560 Speaker 6: Oh. 1536 01:00:51,600 --> 01:00:54,880 Speaker 3: I played with Chris, Yeah, and then uh, we love Chris. 1537 01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:55,480 Speaker 5: Played with Chris. 1538 01:00:56,080 --> 01:00:58,720 Speaker 3: He's so funny, dude, holding court in the locker room. Always, 1539 01:00:58,840 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 3: always always he's holding court, always talking to someone, arguing 1540 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,920 Speaker 3: about who the best rapper is or this, and then 1541 01:01:05,960 --> 01:01:08,760 Speaker 3: we get hey, what about this? And just always talking, 1542 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,880 Speaker 3: always holding court in the locker room, always arguing over 1543 01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 3: some dumb ship. 1544 01:01:14,160 --> 01:01:14,600 Speaker 5: And then. 1545 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:20,120 Speaker 3: Then you got trade with Kyle you I mean Kyle, 1546 01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 3: I mean we would do. 1547 01:01:23,200 --> 01:01:26,040 Speaker 1: He was still playing baseball, remember he was just coming 1548 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:30,640 Speaker 1: out of Oregon or something, and fucking we're doing ladder 1549 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,960 Speaker 1: Drille and you guys don't realize, like Kyle and Richie 1550 01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 1: had like really fast feet for lineman, they're doing fucking 1551 01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:40,840 Speaker 1: I just remember we'd have like two fast ass linemen. 1552 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,240 Speaker 1: Then you have some guy coming out of like a 1553 01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:45,320 Speaker 1: lot of guys when you work out in LA you 1554 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:47,160 Speaker 1: get a lot of hub guys that like if they're 1555 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,240 Speaker 1: doing a commercial, they'll do a week at Exos, but 1556 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:52,040 Speaker 1: you know, you know they'll do that kind of ship 1557 01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 1: where we were there for a while and you see 1558 01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 1: you could see and compare the other guys to you know, 1559 01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,720 Speaker 1: the group of That's why you go to those things, 1560 01:01:59,760 --> 01:02:02,520 Speaker 1: you know, it creates competition, yeah, you know. And and 1561 01:02:02,600 --> 01:02:04,080 Speaker 1: so you'd see a guy come in, I'm like, oh, 1562 01:02:04,120 --> 01:02:05,960 Speaker 1: they don't have they don't have those feet, Yeah. 1563 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:08,760 Speaker 3: That dog in them. Yeah hell no ship. 1564 01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:09,040 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1565 01:02:09,040 --> 01:02:10,640 Speaker 2: I had some wheels, bro I ran a four eight 1566 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,520 Speaker 2: four at the combine few ten. I mean I had 1567 01:02:12,560 --> 01:02:14,600 Speaker 2: some wheels. And that was training at Exos, you know, 1568 01:02:14,800 --> 01:02:17,240 Speaker 2: coming coming home and training to be a. 1569 01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:19,160 Speaker 3: Better athlete, not just a better football player. 1570 01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:20,720 Speaker 2: I see so many of these young guys, you know, 1571 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:22,520 Speaker 2: they'll go home and they'll just pass set for three 1572 01:02:22,600 --> 01:02:25,320 Speaker 2: months and deadlift heavy and lift all this crazy stuff. 1573 01:02:25,360 --> 01:02:27,600 Speaker 2: It's like, no, you got to you gotta break it down. 1574 01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,640 Speaker 2: You gotta be gott to be flexible, you got to 1575 01:02:29,640 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 2: be able to move. Additional strength, functional strength, Yeah for sure. 1576 01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:34,560 Speaker 2: All these guys that lift heavy weights, they can't move. 1577 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,400 Speaker 3: That's good, but it's it was always good. 1578 01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 1: I always liked going to exos early in the off season, 1579 01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,080 Speaker 1: like that's where I would start because it wouldn't be 1580 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:46,400 Speaker 1: heavy heavy lifting. Yeah, it would be more isolated single 1581 01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:51,040 Speaker 1: legs stuff, intricate knee muscles, ankle stability stuff, getting your 1582 01:02:51,080 --> 01:02:53,080 Speaker 1: glute fire in, all the stuff that you want to 1583 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,280 Speaker 1: strengthen before you get into the heavyweights. 1584 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:55,919 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. 1585 01:02:56,080 --> 01:02:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah that ramp up here, Yeah, doing all this stuff 1586 01:02:58,400 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 2: for your your tendons and make sure everything was good. 1587 01:03:01,000 --> 01:03:01,640 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. 1588 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:03,800 Speaker 1: I loved going there and I still think that. I 1589 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,400 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's it's there still, so there's 1590 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,720 Speaker 1: as gone. Well, there's a location Elsegundo. 1591 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 2: Now with UCLA Health, they got a spot where that's 1592 01:03:10,600 --> 01:03:11,600 Speaker 2: where I trained my guys at. 1593 01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:15,520 Speaker 1: But yeah that that they have outdoor weight room still No, No, 1594 01:03:15,720 --> 01:03:18,000 Speaker 1: that was the sec part of our because we had 1595 01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,560 Speaker 1: outdoor weight room and then we could jump in and 1596 01:03:20,640 --> 01:03:23,720 Speaker 1: do like there's a six yard turf, so you could 1597 01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:27,840 Speaker 1: you could incorporate playometric with lifting, and you could do 1598 01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:30,360 Speaker 1: a field movement with your workout, you know what I mean. 1599 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,080 Speaker 1: So that's what that's why I always loved going there. 1600 01:03:33,160 --> 01:03:35,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, that was awesome in that field and we're getting 1601 01:03:35,160 --> 01:03:39,240 Speaker 3: tans and ship getting yoked up shirts off. You see 1602 01:03:39,280 --> 01:03:42,200 Speaker 3: some tennis guys and tennis babes walking by. 1603 01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:42,880 Speaker 5: Nice. 1604 01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,560 Speaker 3: We're just working out like animals, animals. Jewels was an 1605 01:03:45,560 --> 01:03:46,280 Speaker 3: animal like Jewels. 1606 01:03:46,320 --> 01:03:48,400 Speaker 2: You didn't you didn't lose. Like we'd be warming up, 1607 01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,000 Speaker 2: going back and forth, and you couldn't lose that rep. 1608 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,320 Speaker 2: Like you'd have to be a hair faster than everybody. 1609 01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,720 Speaker 2: And then you do your I'd watch you running, you 1610 01:03:54,840 --> 01:03:57,160 Speaker 2: do your drills and you're cutting and running and stuff 1611 01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:57,400 Speaker 2: like that. 1612 01:03:57,960 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 3: I mean, we were some hosses, do we were. I 1613 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,720 Speaker 3: remember the one time we were on the Versa climber 1614 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:02,280 Speaker 3: and you. 1615 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:04,080 Speaker 2: And me were just getting it. We're the only two there. 1616 01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:05,960 Speaker 2: We're in the basement on like a Friday, and we're 1617 01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:08,240 Speaker 2: getting after it. We were both like, damn, man, I 1618 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:09,040 Speaker 2: wish I could GetUp there. 1619 01:04:09,040 --> 01:04:10,280 Speaker 3: In New England. I wish I'd come up there and 1620 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:12,680 Speaker 3: you boys. I was like, you got to talk to Bill. 1621 01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:15,720 Speaker 3: I tried to when we got rid of Logan Mankins. Yeah, Logan. 1622 01:04:15,800 --> 01:04:18,000 Speaker 1: Remember when we traded Logan and we were we were 1623 01:04:18,120 --> 01:04:21,840 Speaker 1: down a guard and I was like, I went up 1624 01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:25,320 Speaker 1: to Casirio. I'm like, yo, man, I trained with Incognito, 1625 01:04:26,280 --> 01:04:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, and you were going through some ship at 1626 01:04:28,120 --> 01:04:29,840 Speaker 1: that time, so it was kind of emmy stuff. 1627 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:31,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, so it was kind of to like they didn't 1628 01:04:31,880 --> 01:04:32,800 Speaker 3: want to jump into it. 1629 01:04:33,000 --> 01:04:33,160 Speaker 5: Yeah. 1630 01:04:33,480 --> 01:04:35,240 Speaker 3: I had to serve my year out of the league. 1631 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,240 Speaker 3: I had to take a year off, so that the 1632 01:04:37,360 --> 01:04:38,880 Speaker 3: dusk it set all the year of vacation. 1633 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:40,800 Speaker 2: What's funny about that is I was it was the 1634 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:42,600 Speaker 2: next year and I was going to look at teams 1635 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:44,640 Speaker 2: and I was getting ready to go back out there, 1636 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:46,400 Speaker 2: and I was down in Tampa and I was meeting 1637 01:04:46,440 --> 01:04:47,560 Speaker 2: with the Buccaneers and. 1638 01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:48,640 Speaker 3: Everything was going great. 1639 01:04:48,760 --> 01:04:51,160 Speaker 2: I met with him, everything went well, and then like 1640 01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 2: the GM Lick came into a meeting and like he 1641 01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 2: looked like he saw a ghost. 1642 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:56,280 Speaker 3: He was like white in the face, and I was like, 1643 01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 3: what's going on? You guys? 1644 01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,600 Speaker 2: Find out something that I didn't know about like what's 1645 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:02,240 Speaker 2: going on, and he was just like, oh, okay, yeah, 1646 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:03,720 Speaker 2: we're gonna get you back to the team hotel and 1647 01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,760 Speaker 2: then we'll call you tomorrow and let you know. And 1648 01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:07,720 Speaker 2: I go back to the team hotel. Wake up, don't 1649 01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:10,040 Speaker 2: hear from him. They booked me a flight. I go home, 1650 01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,400 Speaker 2: and they had traded for Logan Mankins. That's when they 1651 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,360 Speaker 2: brought Mankins in, So they kind of had kind of 1652 01:05:14,440 --> 01:05:16,800 Speaker 2: used me as a pawn to kind of work him 1653 01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:18,160 Speaker 2: and if it didn't work out with him, they're gonna 1654 01:05:18,160 --> 01:05:20,400 Speaker 2: sign me. But yeah, Mankins was the man. I watched 1655 01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:22,920 Speaker 2: a ton of tape on Mankins coming out. We're the 1656 01:05:22,960 --> 01:05:25,760 Speaker 2: same year and you know with Dante and the old 1657 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,320 Speaker 2: line coach up there, I mean I was I was 1658 01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,280 Speaker 2: looking at Logan to teach me stuff that my coaches 1659 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:32,600 Speaker 2: couldn't teach me because I played some bad places, had 1660 01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:35,360 Speaker 2: some bad coaches, and you know, Logan were sitting on 1661 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,120 Speaker 2: that down hand and like I took a lot of 1662 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:38,439 Speaker 2: pass blocking cues from Logan. 1663 01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 1: He was a stud man and he was the cattle 1664 01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,640 Speaker 1: rancher bro Yeah hell yeah. In the off season, his 1665 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 1: training was moving hay and ship. Yeah, he was a 1666 01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:53,040 Speaker 1: state basketball player. I didn't know it was California. Was 1667 01:05:53,080 --> 01:05:57,000 Speaker 1: he from Fresno. Yeah, it's from like east east north California. 1668 01:05:57,000 --> 01:05:58,640 Speaker 1: It's like it's it's country as fuck. 1669 01:05:58,760 --> 01:06:00,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, hell yeah. I got to play in a Pro 1670 01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 2: Bowl with him in Hawaii. Yeah, and my dad was 1671 01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 2: a big fan of him too. So it was just 1672 01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 2: like having Beer's Logan. 1673 01:06:05,880 --> 01:06:08,520 Speaker 3: Man, he's a cool guy, awesome dude, Like yeah, and 1674 01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 3: his dad's a smaller dude. It's crazy. I'm like, how'd 1675 01:06:11,600 --> 01:06:15,640 Speaker 3: you poop out this guy? His hands like Logan had 1676 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:18,800 Speaker 3: hands that would wrap around your forehand, like you got 1677 01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,160 Speaker 3: big hands too, But like, yeah, it was just he 1678 01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 3: was just he was always down to fight. Oh yeah. 1679 01:06:23,920 --> 01:06:26,560 Speaker 2: He was a scrappy mother crappy. He had a great 1680 01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,280 Speaker 2: tradition at the Pro Bowl because he had made a 1681 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,440 Speaker 2: million in a row. So I made my first one. 1682 01:06:30,520 --> 01:06:32,760 Speaker 2: He's like, hey, this is the most important tradition of all. 1683 01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 2: He goes this first Tuesday night meeting. It's gonna be 1684 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 2: all security and bullshit about setting up a whole week. 1685 01:06:37,560 --> 01:06:39,280 Speaker 2: He'd bring a cooler a beer into that meeting and 1686 01:06:39,480 --> 01:06:41,120 Speaker 2: all the old line be sitting there drinking beer. In 1687 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:44,160 Speaker 2: that first Pro Bowl meeting, and then you know sometimes 1688 01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:45,760 Speaker 2: in the morning the next day at the Pro Bowl, 1689 01:06:45,760 --> 01:06:46,200 Speaker 2: you're hung over. 1690 01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:49,040 Speaker 3: Heause Hawaii with thirty of your friends going nuts, And 1691 01:06:49,080 --> 01:06:51,000 Speaker 3: he'd always have a little cooler with him everywhere he went. 1692 01:06:51,080 --> 01:06:52,440 Speaker 3: He was here, get one of these buds and make 1693 01:06:52,520 --> 01:06:58,160 Speaker 3: you feel better. Logan could play drunk. I think he probably, 1694 01:06:58,320 --> 01:07:02,080 Speaker 3: I think Logan you know he was drunk. Yeah, he 1695 01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:04,840 Speaker 3: was a salty dude, just like he was a great 1696 01:07:04,880 --> 01:07:07,840 Speaker 3: player man, nasty dude, because I mean you look at him, 1697 01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:09,920 Speaker 3: you line him up next to a bunch of other 1698 01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,040 Speaker 3: starting offensive linemen, You're like, oh, he's not a player. 1699 01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:15,040 Speaker 3: Like he's not big, he's not huge, he's not really tall, 1700 01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,600 Speaker 3: but he's just thick and strong and that wrong. And 1701 01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,720 Speaker 3: he could run. Yeah, he could get to the next level. 1702 01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,120 Speaker 3: And he was long. He had long arms. Yeah, remember 1703 01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:26,120 Speaker 3: he had those long arms. I watched him and he 1704 01:07:26,120 --> 01:07:28,480 Speaker 3: would he would just lock people out. What's it like 1705 01:07:28,560 --> 01:07:32,480 Speaker 3: playing in the Pro Bowl? Awesome, man, amazing experience like 1706 01:07:32,640 --> 01:07:35,400 Speaker 3: O Line though, like O Line play it there you 1707 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:36,880 Speaker 3: guys like like. 1708 01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:39,280 Speaker 2: Well, like for me, the thing was, I never had 1709 01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,440 Speaker 2: playoff games or Super Bowls and stuff like that. So 1710 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:43,520 Speaker 2: the pinnacle of my career was always Pro Bowls. You know, 1711 01:07:43,600 --> 01:07:45,760 Speaker 2: that was being recognized as by your peers and your 1712 01:07:45,800 --> 01:07:48,920 Speaker 2: coaches as one of the best. But playing in the 1713 01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:51,600 Speaker 2: game sucks. You know, we're down, We're down in Hawaii, 1714 01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 2: And like I said, you know, the first year, I 1715 01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:55,400 Speaker 2: brought ten people. In the next year fifteen, the next year, 1716 01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 2: we're in Turtle Bay and I got like freaking twenty 1717 01:07:57,920 --> 01:08:00,440 Speaker 2: five thirty people with me. So it's it's an awesome 1718 01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,680 Speaker 2: experience for the friends and the family, and you're you're 1719 01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,520 Speaker 2: running around, you know, you're hiking up waterfalls and doing 1720 01:08:05,600 --> 01:08:07,920 Speaker 2: helicopter tours and doing all this crazy stuff. And then 1721 01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:11,120 Speaker 2: the game comes on Sunday. So the Dolphins had just 1722 01:08:11,280 --> 01:08:13,440 Speaker 2: mailed all my equipment. They mailed me a brand new helmet. 1723 01:08:13,480 --> 01:08:15,480 Speaker 2: I hadn't put it on, hadn't got the straps done. 1724 01:08:15,760 --> 01:08:17,840 Speaker 2: My jersey's way too big. Like I'm like, I'm a 1725 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:20,120 Speaker 2: mass before the game and we go out and we're 1726 01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:23,360 Speaker 2: doing pregame warm ups and it was it was when 1727 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,240 Speaker 2: the AFC and the NFC squads were blended. Yeah, So 1728 01:08:26,320 --> 01:08:28,560 Speaker 2: I had Aaron Donald on my team and we're just 1729 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:30,880 Speaker 2: doing walkthrough before the game and our pads and he 1730 01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:32,599 Speaker 2: jacks me under the chin. 1731 01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:35,600 Speaker 3: My helmet straps are everywhere. I was just like, bro, 1732 01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:38,280 Speaker 3: we're just getting started. Calm down. He's like, oh yeah, sorry, sorry, sorry, 1733 01:08:38,600 --> 01:08:41,479 Speaker 3: I'm good. So yeah, the worst part about it is 1734 01:08:41,479 --> 01:08:42,599 Speaker 3: playing in that game on Sunday. 1735 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:46,320 Speaker 2: I mean, dude, I just made it off of OTA's 1736 01:08:46,479 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 2: training camp the season, and I took a month off. 1737 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:51,080 Speaker 2: I mean, I've done a little working out, but now 1738 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:52,360 Speaker 2: you want me to come down here and play in 1739 01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,000 Speaker 2: Hawaiian ninety degree. 1740 01:08:54,280 --> 01:08:56,200 Speaker 3: He like, I'm not playing. I'm not, you know, out 1741 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 3: there just playing nice brother in law. You gotta hit 1742 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,479 Speaker 3: up the guy another set, I say, man, take a chilling, 1743 01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:02,880 Speaker 3: this one. Take it. Give you one. 1744 01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,040 Speaker 2: We were we were down in we were down in 1745 01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 2: Orlando one year and uh, you know, there's only three 1746 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,000 Speaker 2: guys at your position, so you gotta play left guard. 1747 01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:11,559 Speaker 2: They gotta play right guard, and then you come out. 1748 01:09:12,720 --> 01:09:15,000 Speaker 2: My right guard sets are trash. I mean, I'm I've 1749 01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 2: been playing left my entire career. So we're it's me 1750 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:19,600 Speaker 2: and Lawan and we got to go in on the 1751 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 2: right side. And they used to give the player of 1752 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:24,920 Speaker 2: the game a car. So Michael Bennett's over there and 1753 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:28,120 Speaker 2: he wants this piece of shit Hondai, and he's playing 1754 01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:31,000 Speaker 2: his fucking mind out right. So he's over there giving 1755 01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,200 Speaker 2: Lawan the business like we's giving us both the business. 1756 01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,840 Speaker 2: We're not right side guys. So it was late in 1757 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,720 Speaker 2: the game and I was like, all right, Lawan, I'm 1758 01:09:38,760 --> 01:09:40,720 Speaker 2: gonna make sure the center is good. Overset him. I'm 1759 01:09:40,720 --> 01:09:42,040 Speaker 2: gonna come out there. I'm gonna clean his clock, and 1760 01:09:42,040 --> 01:09:45,439 Speaker 2: we're gonna slow his ass down. So sure a ship, 1761 01:09:46,120 --> 01:09:48,280 Speaker 2: keep my eyes out there. He's out there messing around. 1762 01:09:48,320 --> 01:09:51,439 Speaker 2: He comes and turns around, and I just blast his ass, 1763 01:09:51,880 --> 01:09:54,360 Speaker 2: stuff him in the ground, shut down his rush. 1764 01:09:54,400 --> 01:09:56,519 Speaker 3: He wasn't he wasn't too active the rest of the game. 1765 01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,799 Speaker 3: And then we're on this like Pro Bowl call. 1766 01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,880 Speaker 2: Like a couple of weeks later, and they're asking players 1767 01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,680 Speaker 2: and how was your experience this, that and the other. 1768 01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:04,519 Speaker 2: And so there's like four of us on the call, 1769 01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,599 Speaker 2: and Michael Bennett. They said, oh it's Michael Bennett, Richie 1770 01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:07,040 Speaker 2: and Cognitio. 1771 01:10:07,080 --> 01:10:10,200 Speaker 3: This guy, this guy. Michael Bennett goes, oh man, hell no, 1772 01:10:10,600 --> 01:10:17,840 Speaker 3: fuck that My back still just laid the wood on him. 1773 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,400 Speaker 3: So yeah, that that was fun. Man, Oh my god. 1774 01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,040 Speaker 1: The Bennetts are funny. Oh, yes, those guys are funny dudes. 1775 01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,640 Speaker 1: I played with Marty Yep and he and he was 1776 01:10:26,680 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 1: a baller. 1777 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,439 Speaker 3: I mean, they're they're they're fucking really good football players, 1778 01:10:30,640 --> 01:10:32,960 Speaker 3: but they're fun funny guys in the room. 1779 01:10:33,120 --> 01:10:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, they are characters, man. Michael Benny used to play 1780 01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:36,840 Speaker 2: with those small pads and that's back when. 1781 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,120 Speaker 3: Those are shells, bro, those weren't. Yeah, no, I know 1782 01:10:39,439 --> 01:10:42,160 Speaker 3: I playing in shells. I know. And they found the 1783 01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:44,080 Speaker 3: cheat code. They found play him in a four eye 1784 01:10:44,479 --> 01:10:44,640 Speaker 3: you know. 1785 01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:47,800 Speaker 2: That's good luck backside tackle cutting him off, good luck 1786 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:49,479 Speaker 2: running the ball at him. Like there there's a bunch 1787 01:10:49,479 --> 01:10:51,559 Speaker 2: of stuff you couldn't do. But yeah, those those pads, 1788 01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,320 Speaker 2: you try and get him in pass protection. There's nothing 1789 01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:55,040 Speaker 2: to grab, nothing, nothing. 1790 01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:58,240 Speaker 3: He knew that. That's why he did it, all right, Jackie, 1791 01:10:58,240 --> 01:10:58,920 Speaker 3: give us a game leader. 1792 01:10:58,960 --> 01:10:59,960 Speaker 5: So he hit the lead up real quick. 1793 01:11:00,400 --> 01:11:00,519 Speaker 7: Uh. 1794 01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:05,160 Speaker 5: This game was in London, the twenty seventh. Hey, that 1795 01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 5: was Australian. 1796 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:06,240 Speaker 3: Jeez. 1797 01:11:06,400 --> 01:11:08,720 Speaker 5: That was twenty seventh game ever played in London in 1798 01:11:08,760 --> 01:11:09,240 Speaker 5: the NFL. 1799 01:11:09,880 --> 01:11:10,679 Speaker 3: This was Week five. 1800 01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:13,000 Speaker 5: The Bears were coming in three and one on a 1801 01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:16,240 Speaker 5: three game winning streak. Raiders were two and two. Each 1802 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,640 Speaker 5: team was coming off a win. It's the big storyline 1803 01:11:20,040 --> 01:11:22,760 Speaker 5: we mentioned earlier. Khalil Mack baby first time against his 1804 01:11:22,840 --> 01:11:23,280 Speaker 5: old team. 1805 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:24,479 Speaker 3: That's why you picked this game. 1806 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:25,840 Speaker 5: A little trash talk going on. 1807 01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,200 Speaker 2: I mean, all this was going on, you know, all 1808 01:11:28,240 --> 01:11:30,519 Speaker 2: this stuff leading up to it. We're over in England 1809 01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:31,559 Speaker 2: and we're hearing all this stuff. 1810 01:11:31,600 --> 01:11:33,760 Speaker 5: The Bears are the best, and this and this and this. 1811 01:11:33,880 --> 01:11:35,800 Speaker 3: All right, put it on the line, let's go. 1812 01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:38,400 Speaker 5: Khalil Mack was absolutely bawling out this year too. 1813 01:11:39,200 --> 01:11:42,280 Speaker 3: Four and a half sacks through four weeks, four force fumbles, 1814 01:11:42,680 --> 01:11:45,160 Speaker 3: I mean three in the first game, I think crazy. 1815 01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,040 Speaker 3: And then Maurice Jones Drew was on the NFL network 1816 01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:50,360 Speaker 3: saying he thought he could have five and a half 1817 01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:53,519 Speaker 3: sacks this game. Just crazy talk five and a half. 1818 01:11:53,680 --> 01:11:58,360 Speaker 3: Everybody was getting in on Mojo, Yes, bro bowling Balljo 1819 01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:01,000 Speaker 3: b Mojo. I used to watch wach him at Dala Shao, 1820 01:12:01,760 --> 01:12:04,800 Speaker 3: remember Daylah. Yeah, I love Mojoe. He was such a 1821 01:12:04,880 --> 01:12:06,759 Speaker 3: swaggy little running back in high school. 1822 01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:07,240 Speaker 5: Beast. 1823 01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:09,040 Speaker 3: I mean, he's fucking killer at U C l A 1824 01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:10,120 Speaker 3: and the pros too. He was. 1825 01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:13,160 Speaker 5: And we got to mention this is a This is 1826 01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:17,320 Speaker 5: a Chase Daniel game. Chase Chase Daniel game we've done 1827 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,840 Speaker 5: on games with names baby, his history in the nut 1828 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:20,120 Speaker 5: Are you. 1829 01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:21,960 Speaker 3: Are you Chase Daniel fan Jack? 1830 01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:26,880 Speaker 5: No, sorry, man, no shade to Chase. But he was 1831 01:12:26,960 --> 01:12:29,280 Speaker 5: kind of slaying in this game though. Trubisky went out, 1832 01:12:29,360 --> 01:12:31,000 Speaker 5: uh this week before the game. 1833 01:12:31,080 --> 01:12:33,360 Speaker 3: That guy he's he just retired. The guy had a 1834 01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:33,920 Speaker 3: great back. 1835 01:12:35,680 --> 01:12:38,839 Speaker 8: He put that that Kansas Missouri game with Jeremy Macklin 1836 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:41,280 Speaker 8: when Kansas was sick and Missouri was sick. 1837 01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:44,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I see him on TV. He does NFL Network stuff. Right, 1838 01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:46,599 Speaker 3: you're doing all right? He's good. 1839 01:12:47,720 --> 01:12:49,679 Speaker 4: He had some nice pros and some decent throws. 1840 01:12:49,680 --> 01:12:50,439 Speaker 3: I watched his game. 1841 01:12:51,320 --> 01:12:53,160 Speaker 5: Man, Sorry, I came down on Chase too hard there. 1842 01:12:53,600 --> 01:12:55,920 Speaker 5: I don't like doing that. I like like lifting people 1843 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,000 Speaker 5: up and spreading positivity, and here I am trashing the man. 1844 01:12:59,200 --> 01:13:01,160 Speaker 5: It's all right, But yeah, Mitch, Hurt is not hot 1845 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:02,880 Speaker 5: and ready right now. That's why I was gonna say 1846 01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:08,080 Speaker 5: the hot and ready signs on over there. But Trubisky 1847 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:10,679 Speaker 5: got hurt the week before, hurt his shoulder against the Vikings, 1848 01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:12,559 Speaker 5: So I had to bring old Chase in here. 1849 01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:16,960 Speaker 3: Man, Mitch, Mitch, bro Trubisky. I played in the London game. 1850 01:13:16,960 --> 01:13:19,920 Speaker 3: How'd you like? Those loved him? I went over twice 1851 01:13:20,040 --> 01:13:21,960 Speaker 3: and then we went over for the whole time. So 1852 01:13:22,120 --> 01:13:22,599 Speaker 3: we played. 1853 01:13:22,760 --> 01:13:24,400 Speaker 2: One time we played in Buffalo and then we flew 1854 01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:26,960 Speaker 2: out that night. This time we played in Indie. We 1855 01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:28,680 Speaker 2: got some food after the game and then flew out 1856 01:13:28,720 --> 01:13:30,840 Speaker 2: and we stayed out at that hotel way out uh 1857 01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:32,080 Speaker 2: in Watford. 1858 01:13:32,720 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 3: And it was awesome, man I I I really enjoyed 1859 01:13:34,960 --> 01:13:36,559 Speaker 3: myself all times. I did too. 1860 01:13:37,080 --> 01:13:40,240 Speaker 1: It was It's something when you're you know, we're such 1861 01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:44,799 Speaker 1: a domestic sport and like we you know, we're professional athletes, 1862 01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:48,519 Speaker 1: and you always hear the basketball guys and and the 1863 01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,680 Speaker 1: hockey guys they all play in international they get the Olympics. 1864 01:13:52,160 --> 01:13:54,880 Speaker 1: The soccer guys internationally are they get You get to 1865 01:13:54,920 --> 01:13:57,600 Speaker 1: go to other countries and see other cultures. It's like 1866 01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:00,840 Speaker 1: our first experience of like really doing It's so cool. 1867 01:14:00,920 --> 01:14:03,519 Speaker 1: I'm so excited for the league going to Brazil this 1868 01:14:03,720 --> 01:14:06,400 Speaker 1: year when we went to Mexico City. I think these 1869 01:14:06,439 --> 01:14:08,960 Speaker 1: are these are fun trips for not just the guys, 1870 01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:10,760 Speaker 1: but it's great for the league. It's trying to grow 1871 01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:13,479 Speaker 1: this league internationally and I had such a fun time, 1872 01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,760 Speaker 1: went to did all the tour ship. Yeah, he had 1873 01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:17,439 Speaker 1: a walk through and Hyde Park. No one knew what 1874 01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:20,559 Speaker 1: the fuck we were doing. Tom Brady, you got Randy 1875 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:21,280 Speaker 1: Moss was there. 1876 01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:25,080 Speaker 3: That's like, that's awesome. People are just walking by like whatever, 1877 01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:26,880 Speaker 3: Hey mate, what the fuck is this thing? 1878 01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:29,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny. The London games they're great too. 1879 01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,320 Speaker 2: I agree, they're they're great. Grass sucks though, Oh the 1880 01:14:32,360 --> 01:14:36,040 Speaker 2: grass is terrible. That yeah, that grass, that's it's soccer grass. Yeah, 1881 01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:38,360 Speaker 2: the ball skipping across it not for us big guys 1882 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:41,240 Speaker 2: running on It tears up so quick with with you 1883 01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,240 Speaker 2: guys like him slick slicks locks like, no, there's no 1884 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,599 Speaker 2: footing really, it's just got to use away. 1885 01:14:46,720 --> 01:14:47,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all terriby. 1886 01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,200 Speaker 2: But yeah, it's awesome to go to go over there 1887 01:14:50,479 --> 01:14:53,040 Speaker 2: and bring family and friends and have them come enjoy 1888 01:14:53,080 --> 01:14:54,679 Speaker 2: the game and then run around to all the touristy 1889 01:14:54,760 --> 01:14:56,280 Speaker 2: stuff and then get the dub. 1890 01:14:56,479 --> 01:14:58,760 Speaker 3: That's that's the most important part, most important part. 1891 01:14:59,080 --> 01:15:00,599 Speaker 4: So you played ice in London? 1892 01:15:00,760 --> 01:15:02,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I played once of the Bills in I think 1893 01:15:03,560 --> 01:15:05,160 Speaker 3: fifteen or sixteen, and then was. 1894 01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:06,799 Speaker 4: That at Wembley And this was at Tottenham. 1895 01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:08,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, so yeah, I played at Wembley the first time. 1896 01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:10,280 Speaker 2: Did you play Wembley? They played at Wembley. 1897 01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:11,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, I played at Wembley and that was awesome. I 1898 01:15:11,840 --> 01:15:13,320 Speaker 3: mean that was so legendary. It was cool. 1899 01:15:13,439 --> 01:15:18,200 Speaker 2: That was cool A lot of time. Tottenam was sick though, right. Yeah, 1900 01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,519 Speaker 2: that was the first NFL game they did. They did 1901 01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,760 Speaker 2: that dual use, so they had turf for US and 1902 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:25,960 Speaker 2: it was a Raiders home game, so everything was jet black. 1903 01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:28,160 Speaker 2: And that's that was what's funny about the Lendon games. 1904 01:15:28,840 --> 01:15:31,519 Speaker 2: All the fans show up wearing just all random jerseys. 1905 01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:34,639 Speaker 2: Throughout the NFL, you know, there's all like people wearing 1906 01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:38,200 Speaker 2: Kickers jerseys. And when we played Wembley, it was US vs. 1907 01:15:38,320 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 2: Jacksonville was kind of a kind of an okay game, 1908 01:15:40,360 --> 01:15:42,680 Speaker 2: and they were they were just cheering every time there 1909 01:15:42,720 --> 01:15:43,960 Speaker 2: was a kick yeah, punt. 1910 01:15:43,760 --> 01:15:45,880 Speaker 3: Or a kickoff, and they were like yes, it's like no, no, 1911 01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:47,360 Speaker 3: that's not the that's not the fun part. 1912 01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:51,360 Speaker 1: It's exactly I tell that exactly same thing to everyone. 1913 01:15:51,479 --> 01:15:54,839 Speaker 1: They always kickoffs, field goals, punts. 1914 01:15:55,080 --> 01:15:56,960 Speaker 3: They love it. They're like, yeah, let's go, Like you 1915 01:15:56,960 --> 01:16:00,360 Speaker 3: don't know what you're watching, Like this is the action. 1916 01:16:00,479 --> 01:16:01,960 Speaker 2: Let the big boys get on the field, let us 1917 01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:05,200 Speaker 2: get running around. But yeah, Tott, theom was Toughtham sick. 1918 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,120 Speaker 2: I mean like world class. Our place in I heard 1919 01:16:08,160 --> 01:16:11,360 Speaker 2: our place in Vegas was a similar designer or took 1920 01:16:11,400 --> 01:16:12,280 Speaker 2: inspiration from. 1921 01:16:12,200 --> 01:16:13,280 Speaker 3: It, but it was it was. 1922 01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:18,240 Speaker 1: Really It's a beautiful stadium, alliance, I mean Allegiant, Yeah, Allegiant. 1923 01:16:18,479 --> 01:16:21,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the best. I like it because it's a 1924 01:16:21,880 --> 01:16:24,679 Speaker 3: unique place where you go play. And everything is silver 1925 01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:28,120 Speaker 3: and black everything, everything that entire there's Raiders' logos everywhere. 1926 01:16:28,479 --> 01:16:32,000 Speaker 3: You know, fucking stadium's black. So sick, it's sick. It's sick. 1927 01:16:32,040 --> 01:16:33,439 Speaker 2: You know, you go to you go to some places 1928 01:16:33,880 --> 01:16:35,479 Speaker 2: like back in the day the Meadowlands to go play 1929 01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,000 Speaker 2: the Giants and the Jets, and they just take down 1930 01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:38,960 Speaker 2: the green banners and put up the blue ones for 1931 01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,120 Speaker 2: the Giants and it's just like all concrete and stuff. 1932 01:16:41,200 --> 01:16:43,519 Speaker 2: So I love I love Leading Stadium. I'd love to 1933 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:45,120 Speaker 2: see that place rocking man. I'd love to see a 1934 01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:47,040 Speaker 2: ten twelve win team there me too. 1935 01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,880 Speaker 3: It'd be good for the league. Jack, what's up with 1936 01:16:49,960 --> 01:16:51,559 Speaker 3: this game? Let's let's what we got. 1937 01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:53,639 Speaker 5: We talked about this one a little bit earlier. Richie 1938 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:55,920 Speaker 5: alluded to some of it. The Raiders got out fast 1939 01:16:56,000 --> 01:16:59,280 Speaker 5: early and set the tone. Josh Jacobs running that ball 1940 01:16:59,360 --> 01:17:02,000 Speaker 5: down their throat. Baby, that's Raider football right there behind 1941 01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:05,880 Speaker 5: the big O line. Pretty balanced. Also, Derek carr he 1942 01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:08,080 Speaker 5: only had one incomplete pass in the first half, got 1943 01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,040 Speaker 5: on the board first with the Josh Jacobs TD, then 1944 01:17:11,080 --> 01:17:15,320 Speaker 5: the Chase Daniel interception. DeAndre Washington TD knocked in a 1945 01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:18,200 Speaker 5: field goal after that, got up seventeen nothing to the half. 1946 01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,320 Speaker 5: Then the Bears caught some brakes, got hot in the 1947 01:17:21,400 --> 01:17:24,200 Speaker 5: third start out with the Derek Carr arrant pitch to 1948 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:28,120 Speaker 5: Josh Jacobs gave the Bears the good field position, punched 1949 01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:31,559 Speaker 5: in for David Montgomery TD. Then to Allan Robinson Tuddies. 1950 01:17:31,720 --> 01:17:34,040 Speaker 5: Next thing, you know, it's twenty one seventeen going into 1951 01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:35,559 Speaker 5: the fourth. It's like, oh fuck, what happened? 1952 01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:38,160 Speaker 3: What are you thinking about? When they're climbing back. 1953 01:17:38,479 --> 01:17:40,280 Speaker 2: You know, we had so much success in the first half, 1954 01:17:40,320 --> 01:17:41,680 Speaker 2: were on the ball and being you know, I mean, 1955 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:43,479 Speaker 2: all our stuff was hitting. We were going down our 1956 01:17:43,520 --> 01:17:45,400 Speaker 2: script boom boom boom, getting the red zone. Hey, we're 1957 01:17:45,400 --> 01:17:48,240 Speaker 2: gonna do this. Everything was hitting and then like so 1958 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:51,040 Speaker 2: many games this year, you know, the defense, the defense 1959 01:17:51,160 --> 01:17:53,479 Speaker 2: was kind of always it was like, all right, when's 1960 01:17:53,479 --> 01:17:55,800 Speaker 2: the damn gonna break, you know, and they kind of 1961 01:17:55,840 --> 01:17:58,680 Speaker 2: scored real quick, scored in bunches. And that's why I 1962 01:17:58,760 --> 01:18:00,400 Speaker 2: really liked this game because we had a fight. We 1963 01:18:00,479 --> 01:18:02,120 Speaker 2: had to dig deep to go get that touchdown in 1964 01:18:02,200 --> 01:18:04,360 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter. And that wasn't like we went down 1965 01:18:04,360 --> 01:18:05,680 Speaker 2: the field and we kicked a field goal, like we 1966 01:18:05,760 --> 01:18:08,960 Speaker 2: went down methodically. We started I think at like our 1967 01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:11,479 Speaker 2: own six yard line something like that. We went all 1968 01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,479 Speaker 2: the way down the field and we scored that touchdown 1969 01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,559 Speaker 2: and that was that was fun. 1970 01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, that was that was what really capped it off 1971 01:18:19,439 --> 01:18:21,439 Speaker 5: at the end there. That started on the It was 1972 01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:23,400 Speaker 5: a ninety seven yard scoring drive. Yeah, we stood in 1973 01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:25,000 Speaker 5: three insane and. 1974 01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:26,880 Speaker 3: You got you know you're in It takes clock and 1975 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 3: gives him less time and it's a touchdown. Yep. It's 1976 01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,040 Speaker 3: a big situation, right, It's crazy. 1977 01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,679 Speaker 5: And you can't forget about Gruden showing his big old 1978 01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:38,519 Speaker 5: balls pause going for it on fourth and one fake 1979 01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,519 Speaker 5: punt remember that one on their own? Yes, bro, that 1980 01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:42,040 Speaker 5: was sick. 1981 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:42,640 Speaker 3: Ye that. 1982 01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,720 Speaker 5: There was some wild special teams action in the second half, 1983 01:18:46,920 --> 01:18:49,639 Speaker 5: A seventy one yard punt return by Cohen good career 1984 01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:52,280 Speaker 5: man just retired led to a score. Then you got 1985 01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:55,200 Speaker 5: Trevor Davis answers that with a fifty two yard kick return, 1986 01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:57,680 Speaker 5: gets him in good field position. Then he comes down 1987 01:18:57,680 --> 01:18:59,639 Speaker 5: and fumbles on the one. Bommer. 1988 01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:04,120 Speaker 3: Remember that number eleven on your squad, Yes, that's right. 1989 01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:06,639 Speaker 3: We yeah in the red area. What was his name? 1990 01:19:07,080 --> 01:19:10,120 Speaker 3: I do remember that Trevor Davis, that he was fast 1991 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:12,920 Speaker 3: hold on the football plae crazy. 1992 01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:17,200 Speaker 5: As securities, job security, Amen, But yeah, great last drive. 1993 01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:20,679 Speaker 5: Foster Morow had big catches, Hunter Renfro had big catches, 1994 01:19:21,000 --> 01:19:23,960 Speaker 5: and then in typical fashion, Josh Jacobs flying over the 1995 01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:24,679 Speaker 5: top to punching. 1996 01:19:26,080 --> 01:19:29,719 Speaker 3: That was sick. That was sick. I chopped the ship 1997 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:30,679 Speaker 3: out of the nose guard. 1998 01:19:30,800 --> 01:19:33,240 Speaker 2: He thought I was gonna come and try, and he 1999 01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:35,000 Speaker 2: thought he thought I was gonna take him all up high, 2000 01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,160 Speaker 2: because that's how we usually blocked that play. Rodney was 2001 01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,240 Speaker 2: a great center. He can go front side me, I'm 2002 01:19:39,240 --> 01:19:41,120 Speaker 2: gonna cut down that backside. I usually go high on 2003 01:19:41,240 --> 01:19:43,280 Speaker 2: that one. But we were in London and I was like, 2004 01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:46,040 Speaker 2: I know he's gonna fire forward. I went, I cut 2005 01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:48,360 Speaker 2: his ass out and Josh jumped right over him, right 2006 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:51,120 Speaker 2: where his big body was supposed to be. He scored, man, 2007 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,040 Speaker 2: and that was nuts. I remember going to the locker room. 2008 01:19:53,240 --> 01:19:55,320 Speaker 2: Oh the Bears that year, I think that year of 2009 01:19:55,360 --> 01:19:57,799 Speaker 2: the year before they started doing the locker room celebration 2010 01:19:57,880 --> 01:20:00,880 Speaker 2: where they had the disco and they were damn and stuff. 2011 01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,200 Speaker 2: So we got in the locker room and grooms. 2012 01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:04,240 Speaker 3: Like, let's do our little fucking dance. 2013 01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:05,000 Speaker 5: Let's go fuck that. 2014 01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:09,040 Speaker 3: Well, so was there there was straight bulletin board material 2015 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:10,840 Speaker 3: for this game? Yeah, one hundred percent. 2016 01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:11,080 Speaker 6: Man. 2017 01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:14,080 Speaker 2: You know it was uh, the Raiders not getting a 2018 01:20:14,120 --> 01:20:17,439 Speaker 2: deal worked out with Khalil Mack and then him leaving 2019 01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,639 Speaker 2: and us going into that game. I think I saw 2020 01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:25,000 Speaker 2: our defense hadn't had any sacks, so we just got 2021 01:20:25,080 --> 01:20:27,320 Speaker 2: rid of our best pass rusher and now we have 2022 01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,800 Speaker 2: literally no one, uh to replace him with and now 2023 01:20:30,840 --> 01:20:31,559 Speaker 2: they're balling out. 2024 01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,599 Speaker 3: He's got four and a half sacks, we have no sacks. 2025 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:36,200 Speaker 2: So I mean you're literally just speaking to the offensive 2026 01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,519 Speaker 2: line like this defense is great, this guy's on a tear. 2027 01:20:39,800 --> 01:20:42,000 Speaker 2: Like that's on us as offensive lineman. I'm whipping the 2028 01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:44,479 Speaker 2: boys up all weekend. I'm I'm showing him the quotes. Hey, 2029 01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:46,479 Speaker 2: this is what being said. You know, we're all talking 2030 01:20:46,520 --> 01:20:48,760 Speaker 2: about it. And then uh, you know, to go out 2031 01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,160 Speaker 2: there and I don't know how many I think Mac 2032 01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:52,439 Speaker 2: didn't have a sack in this game. 2033 01:20:52,720 --> 01:20:54,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, he didn't do he didn't and he didn't q 2034 01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:57,280 Speaker 5: BE pressure. He did QB pressure, I mean didn't do Yeah, 2035 01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,280 Speaker 5: he didn't do much. He didn't do much anything. It 2036 01:20:59,439 --> 01:21:02,599 Speaker 5: was uh, he ended up with three tackles. 2037 01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:03,400 Speaker 6: That was it. 2038 01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:05,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean that's huge, man. I mean you're coming 2039 01:21:05,640 --> 01:21:07,519 Speaker 2: to this game and the guy's got four and a 2040 01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,599 Speaker 2: half sacks, four sacks to the first four games. He's 2041 01:21:09,600 --> 01:21:11,800 Speaker 2: at least gonna get one. Yeah, but you know, we 2042 01:21:12,000 --> 01:21:14,880 Speaker 2: we we took that as motivation and we use that 2043 01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,640 Speaker 2: all week to prepare hard, get ready, get our minds right, 2044 01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:18,920 Speaker 2: and go in there and play a physical game. 2045 01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:21,920 Speaker 3: That's a great point because of that bulletin blower of 2046 01:21:21,960 --> 01:21:25,439 Speaker 3: materials that would probably lead to you getting those two flags. No, 2047 01:21:25,680 --> 01:21:27,639 Speaker 3: the first one, the first one was good. The first 2048 01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:31,280 Speaker 3: one a good old Buster Scrine, remember Buster Scribe. Yeah, 2049 01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:34,360 Speaker 3: Buster Scrine always always kind of around the ball, always 2050 01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:35,120 Speaker 3: causing some shit. 2051 01:21:35,479 --> 01:21:37,280 Speaker 2: So Josh was going down the field, and Josh's a 2052 01:21:37,320 --> 01:21:39,679 Speaker 2: young rookie and we're at this point, we're a couple 2053 01:21:39,720 --> 01:21:40,439 Speaker 2: of games in the season. 2054 01:21:40,439 --> 01:21:41,960 Speaker 3: We're like, oh man, this kid's gonna be a stud. 2055 01:21:42,160 --> 01:21:44,599 Speaker 3: Like he's he's you hand him the ball. He's different. 2056 01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:46,479 Speaker 3: And so he was. 2057 01:21:46,640 --> 01:21:48,040 Speaker 2: I don't know if it was a passer or a run, 2058 01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:50,200 Speaker 2: and he's kind of making some moves and I see 2059 01:21:50,240 --> 01:21:52,639 Speaker 2: Buster making a b line to hit Josh and Josh 2060 01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,600 Speaker 2: is already on the ground, so I kind of go 2061 01:21:54,640 --> 01:21:56,240 Speaker 2: in there, kind of protect Josh a little bit, and 2062 01:21:56,240 --> 01:21:57,760 Speaker 2: I'm getting up and I just shoved his head in 2063 01:21:57,800 --> 01:22:00,639 Speaker 2: the turf, like, fuck you, buddy, gonna be a long 2064 01:22:00,760 --> 01:22:01,439 Speaker 2: day because I'm. 2065 01:22:01,320 --> 01:22:03,840 Speaker 3: Coming for you now. And then, uh yeah, the chop 2066 01:22:03,920 --> 01:22:06,000 Speaker 3: block penalty. That was unfortunate. I had gotten away with 2067 01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:07,360 Speaker 3: one and I thought I can go back to it, 2068 01:22:07,560 --> 01:22:10,760 Speaker 3: and they got my ass for you. What was your 2069 01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:12,840 Speaker 3: relationship with the rest? Did you ever butter them up? 2070 01:22:13,000 --> 01:22:16,800 Speaker 3: Fuck the refs, Fuck all the refs, Fuck them all there. 2071 01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:17,040 Speaker 6: You know. 2072 01:22:17,240 --> 01:22:20,080 Speaker 2: My my thing with the refs are it's just it's 2073 01:22:20,200 --> 01:22:23,120 Speaker 2: just so uneven. It's just so uneven the enforcement of penalty. 2074 01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,200 Speaker 2: And this isn't against me. This is in the game. 2075 01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:27,720 Speaker 2: It's so uneven of the enforcement of the penalties, and 2076 01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:29,479 Speaker 2: it comes down to a critical juncture in the game, 2077 01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,040 Speaker 2: and these guys haven't thrown flags for four quarters and 2078 01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:33,840 Speaker 2: now they want to get the flags out. Now they 2079 01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:36,280 Speaker 2: want to decide the game. And it's like, you know, 2080 01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:38,160 Speaker 2: I mean, I would just love to see. 2081 01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,439 Speaker 3: All the game consistently at the beginning that you're gonna 2082 01:22:40,439 --> 01:22:42,040 Speaker 3: call it the end. If you're gonna throw flags for 2083 01:22:42,120 --> 01:22:43,680 Speaker 3: p I throw them in the first quarter, throw them 2084 01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:44,840 Speaker 3: in the fourth quarter. I can handle that. 2085 01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:47,160 Speaker 2: But if you're gonna go throughout the whole gaming, you're not. 2086 01:22:47,320 --> 01:22:49,560 Speaker 2: You're gonna let this little tiki tax stuff go. And 2087 01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:51,559 Speaker 2: then the fourth quarter it happens and you throw a flag. 2088 01:22:51,600 --> 01:22:54,519 Speaker 2: It's like, it's uneven. I just want I want what's fair. 2089 01:22:54,960 --> 01:22:56,680 Speaker 2: And you've been a part of games where you just 2090 01:22:56,720 --> 01:22:58,960 Speaker 2: get fucked by the refs and you take all the 2091 01:22:59,000 --> 01:23:00,519 Speaker 2: evidence and you turn it into the NFL, and the 2092 01:23:00,640 --> 01:23:02,880 Speaker 2: NFL comes back the next week and they're like, yeah, 2093 01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:04,680 Speaker 2: that was a bad call. They shouldn't have called that, 2094 01:23:04,840 --> 01:23:06,320 Speaker 2: or maybe they should have called through a flag here, 2095 01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,880 Speaker 2: and you're like, dude, our whole season depends on that 2096 01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:10,960 Speaker 2: and this asshole who wants to come talk to me 2097 01:23:11,000 --> 01:23:11,519 Speaker 2: before the game. 2098 01:23:11,640 --> 01:23:13,519 Speaker 3: Hey, what's up, budd how fuck you man? 2099 01:23:13,680 --> 01:23:13,720 Speaker 6: Like? 2100 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,920 Speaker 3: I mean, I I I that's the That's the one 2101 01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,000 Speaker 3: thing that pisses me off about refs, you know, just 2102 01:23:21,680 --> 01:23:23,920 Speaker 3: not doing their job. Everyone else out there doing their 2103 01:23:24,160 --> 01:23:26,720 Speaker 3: Do you have any good any one ref that you liked? 2104 01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:30,000 Speaker 3: None of them or all of them are it's they're 2105 01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,280 Speaker 3: all bad. Fuck them all. I mean I liked a 2106 01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,800 Speaker 3: couple of them. I I talk, I would talk with 2107 01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:37,800 Speaker 3: a couple of them before the game. But as soon 2108 01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:39,479 Speaker 3: as that ball was snapped in the first cord, they're 2109 01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,840 Speaker 3: on me. Hey jar no, no, no pushing and shoving 2110 01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:42,240 Speaker 3: out doing that. 2111 01:23:42,960 --> 01:23:45,120 Speaker 2: I'd be like, throw the flag or shut the fuck up, man, 2112 01:23:45,720 --> 01:23:47,880 Speaker 2: Just what, I'm not out here to talk to you. 2113 01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:53,800 Speaker 3: I'm not out here to talk to you. I don't 2114 01:23:53,800 --> 01:23:55,840 Speaker 3: want to be buddy buddy with you. Like if you 2115 01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:58,000 Speaker 3: if you see it, you warn me, and then you 2116 01:23:58,080 --> 01:23:59,280 Speaker 3: throw the flag and then we'll move on. 2117 01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:03,120 Speaker 5: Fair enough, baby, do businesses? Business is being done right. 2118 01:24:03,080 --> 01:24:06,679 Speaker 1: Jewels, Yeah, I gotta new businesses. That's what Bill would say. Now, fellas, 2119 01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,640 Speaker 1: we gotta see how the refs are gonna call it 2120 01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:12,160 Speaker 1: and here you do business. His business is being done. 2121 01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,679 Speaker 5: Oh man, let's put a bow on this game. Twenty four, 2122 01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:20,639 Speaker 5: twenty one. The Raiders get out of there with a win. 2123 01:24:21,160 --> 01:24:24,120 Speaker 5: Don't allow a sack all game. Give Josh Jacobs his 2124 01:24:24,200 --> 01:24:28,080 Speaker 5: first one hundred yard plus rushing game, and as we 2125 01:24:28,120 --> 01:24:31,760 Speaker 5: alluded to earlier, get off the get the sack. Get 2126 01:24:31,800 --> 01:24:34,280 Speaker 5: the sacks back on the board. Three three sacks just 2127 01:24:34,360 --> 01:24:37,160 Speaker 5: in the first half, four total for the game. Shut down, 2128 01:24:37,240 --> 01:24:38,800 Speaker 5: Khalil Mack. Now, get out of there with the win, 2129 01:24:39,200 --> 01:24:43,439 Speaker 5: Young Buck. Jacobs runs for eleven hundred yards. Did he 2130 01:24:43,479 --> 01:24:44,880 Speaker 5: get you guys anything after the season? 2131 01:24:45,439 --> 01:24:47,920 Speaker 3: I don't think so. What did did Josh get us something? 2132 01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:48,160 Speaker 6: Yeah? 2133 01:24:48,160 --> 01:24:50,679 Speaker 2: He got us like one of those big boombox radios, 2134 01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:52,920 Speaker 2: you know those big yea they were big that year. 2135 01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:53,880 Speaker 3: They were big that year. Yeah. 2136 01:24:54,200 --> 01:24:57,240 Speaker 1: There's always there's always a gimmick gift that is big 2137 01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,680 Speaker 1: in the locker room, like for a specific year. 2138 01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:02,000 Speaker 3: Derek had an all timer that year. Derek, this is 2139 01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:03,120 Speaker 3: the best gift I've ever gotten. 2140 01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,479 Speaker 2: Big Yetti cooler full with Omaha steaks and a brand 2141 01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:10,160 Speaker 2: new trigger timberline like fifteen hundred. 2142 01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,840 Speaker 3: Hell yeah, big old smoker. I still cook on that 2143 01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:14,719 Speaker 3: bad boy in the back of the in the backyard, 2144 01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:20,840 Speaker 3: like this is one Derek got me. Vin's will fork 2145 01:25:20,840 --> 01:25:23,519 Speaker 3: woul appreciate that story. Oh he could cook? Yeah, I bet, 2146 01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:27,840 Speaker 3: I bet he loves barbecuing. I got fortunate enough to 2147 01:25:27,880 --> 01:25:29,600 Speaker 3: be invited to his house a couple of times for 2148 01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:33,519 Speaker 3: the barbecues, and boy, that dude can make some ribs, 2149 01:25:33,640 --> 01:25:35,120 Speaker 3: I bet, and he like like he does it in 2150 01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:40,639 Speaker 3: overalls with no shirt. That's how he barbecues. Overall's no shirt, 2151 01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:42,000 Speaker 3: is letting it all hang out. 2152 01:25:42,160 --> 01:25:43,960 Speaker 1: And I think it could be a trash can too. 2153 01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,200 Speaker 1: Did you guys celebrate when you're in London. 2154 01:25:47,400 --> 01:25:48,240 Speaker 3: After the game? Yeah? 2155 01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:49,920 Speaker 2: Oh but dude, we got on the buses and we 2156 01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:52,000 Speaker 2: had a drive because no one in London gets a 2157 01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:55,240 Speaker 2: police escort except the Queen. So we had a load 2158 01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:57,280 Speaker 2: up on all the buses and we were with the 2159 01:25:57,320 --> 01:25:58,960 Speaker 2: Bears and we were like, I don't know, you know, 2160 01:25:59,080 --> 01:26:01,559 Speaker 2: ten fifteen buses deep, and we had to go from 2161 01:26:01,640 --> 01:26:05,320 Speaker 2: there from Tottenham all the way to the airport in 2162 01:26:05,360 --> 01:26:08,160 Speaker 2: the south and it took us like an hour and 2163 01:26:08,200 --> 01:26:09,600 Speaker 2: a half. When we had to stop the buses like 2164 01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:12,120 Speaker 2: two times for people to jump off and use the bathroom. 2165 01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,680 Speaker 2: So like it was, uh, it was a kick in 2166 01:26:14,680 --> 01:26:16,320 Speaker 2: the nuts, man, you get done plane and then we 2167 01:26:16,479 --> 01:26:18,280 Speaker 2: took off at like three am and Monday and we 2168 01:26:18,400 --> 01:26:21,000 Speaker 2: landed at three am the same time back in Oakland, 2169 01:26:21,439 --> 01:26:21,680 Speaker 2: and like. 2170 01:26:21,720 --> 01:26:23,439 Speaker 3: You're just messed up for a couple of days. That's 2171 01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:25,320 Speaker 3: a long time. It is tough. That's tough. And then 2172 01:26:25,360 --> 01:26:26,160 Speaker 3: to the West coast. 2173 01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 2: West Coast is tough, man, it's it's it's something that 2174 01:26:29,120 --> 01:26:31,439 Speaker 2: I didn't really think about until obviously playing out here. 2175 01:26:31,880 --> 01:26:33,680 Speaker 3: But like all our East Coast trips, we have to 2176 01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:34,400 Speaker 3: leave on Friday. 2177 01:26:34,840 --> 01:26:37,760 Speaker 2: So we go in on Friday and we practice and 2178 01:26:37,800 --> 01:26:40,760 Speaker 2: then one o'clock plane chill all day, which I like, 2179 01:26:40,880 --> 01:26:42,920 Speaker 2: you get to you get to relax all day Saturday 2180 01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:45,599 Speaker 2: and I have to travel. But then Sunday coming Monday, 2181 01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:47,760 Speaker 2: watch the film like you're at work. You're at work 2182 01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,080 Speaker 2: from Friday at you know, eight in the morning till 2183 01:26:50,280 --> 01:26:53,000 Speaker 2: Monday at three o'clock in the afternoon. So it makes 2184 01:26:53,080 --> 01:26:55,360 Speaker 2: it makes for long, long travel weekends. 2185 01:26:55,479 --> 01:26:57,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, we'd always leave it if we were going. I 2186 01:26:57,840 --> 01:27:00,320 Speaker 1: never played on the West, but anytime we make anything 2187 01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:03,960 Speaker 1: over four hours, we would go a day early. Yeah, 2188 01:27:04,080 --> 01:27:06,360 Speaker 1: a flight four hours. But they have to go probably 2189 01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:06,599 Speaker 1: a lot. 2190 01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:10,479 Speaker 3: I mean it's back to back weeks. Yeah, after Matt Jack. 2191 01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:12,400 Speaker 5: Bold teams one of their bye week after this coming 2192 01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,120 Speaker 5: back from London. Need a little rest after all that. 2193 01:27:14,680 --> 01:27:17,040 Speaker 5: Each team hit a little skid. Bears going to three 2194 01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,519 Speaker 5: game losing streak finished the year eight and eight, miss 2195 01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:22,439 Speaker 5: the playoffs, Raiders going to two game losing streak, finished 2196 01:27:22,439 --> 01:27:25,160 Speaker 5: seven and nine and miss the playoffs. But most notably, 2197 01:27:25,200 --> 01:27:28,280 Speaker 5: Week fifteen, the Raiders play their last game in Oakland, 2198 01:27:28,720 --> 01:27:30,280 Speaker 5: lost to the Jaguars unfortunately. 2199 01:27:30,479 --> 01:27:32,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, so we had a we had a crazy we 2200 01:27:32,640 --> 01:27:35,880 Speaker 2: had a crazy deal right there. So we played in Minnesota, 2201 01:27:36,360 --> 01:27:39,720 Speaker 2: in Indianapolis, in London, we had our bye week, and 2202 01:27:39,800 --> 01:27:41,680 Speaker 2: then we had to go to Green Bay and to 2203 01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:44,839 Speaker 2: Houston all in a row, all in a row. Schedule 2204 01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,160 Speaker 2: makers too, you could put them with refs. They're fucking idiots. 2205 01:27:50,280 --> 01:27:52,000 Speaker 3: I mean it was our last year in Oakland. 2206 01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:53,840 Speaker 2: We were on the road for whatever that was six 2207 01:27:53,920 --> 01:27:56,639 Speaker 2: seven games with a London trip in there, and like, yeah, 2208 01:27:56,680 --> 01:27:58,360 Speaker 2: we fell apart. We had a two game went, we 2209 01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,920 Speaker 2: have this big win, come off the bye week, lost loss, 2210 01:28:01,400 --> 01:28:04,000 Speaker 2: and then you know, staring down the back half the season, 2211 01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:05,720 Speaker 2: and it's like, dude, we gotta win every game to 2212 01:28:05,760 --> 01:28:05,960 Speaker 2: get in. 2213 01:28:06,320 --> 01:28:09,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough, you know, and there's so many distractions. 2214 01:28:09,920 --> 01:28:13,720 Speaker 1: With the team leaving, the fans probably were pissed. It 2215 01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:16,920 Speaker 1: was just probably a piste off environment, you know, going 2216 01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,560 Speaker 1: because the Oakland loved the Raiders for sure. I know 2217 01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:22,519 Speaker 1: that they you know, were in l A for a while. 2218 01:28:22,640 --> 01:28:26,760 Speaker 1: But you know, Oakland, I wish they were. California would 2219 01:28:26,760 --> 01:28:28,960 Speaker 1: have made a fucking stadium there. And I think it 2220 01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:29,360 Speaker 1: wasn't that. 2221 01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,120 Speaker 2: It was that it you can't you can't get a 2222 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,160 Speaker 2: new stadium built in California. I mean all and all 2223 01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:38,439 Speaker 2: the old ones Qualcomm, Candlestick, Oakland, Ally Media Coliseum. You know, 2224 01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:41,280 Speaker 2: those are the worst stadiums in the NFL. You would 2225 01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:43,360 Speaker 2: come out and you'd be like, what the hell is this? Yeah, 2226 01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:46,760 Speaker 2: but yeah, how they dope is awesome. I love so 2227 01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:50,200 Speaker 2: far is dope. But that old the old Qualcomm situation 2228 01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:53,200 Speaker 2: down in San Diego, Dude, what a great tailgating area. 2229 01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,160 Speaker 1: That was such a cool stadium. Even though it was 2230 01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:57,720 Speaker 1: a piece of shit stadium. They had great grass. They 2231 01:28:57,720 --> 01:29:00,040 Speaker 1: always had really great grass. It was like a it 2232 01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:02,240 Speaker 1: was it was a Kentucky blue, but a short Kentucky 2233 01:29:02,320 --> 01:29:05,439 Speaker 1: blue fast track. But it wasn't like Bermuda because you 2234 01:29:05,560 --> 01:29:07,400 Speaker 1: get those in the South like you got Miami always 2235 01:29:07,400 --> 01:29:09,519 Speaker 1: had a good Bermuda fast track. Yeah yeah, yeah, you 2236 01:29:09,600 --> 01:29:12,000 Speaker 1: know like that flat grass. Yeah, like the like the 2237 01:29:12,040 --> 01:29:15,280 Speaker 1: golf course, yeah almost. Those are such good grasses for running. 2238 01:29:15,439 --> 01:29:16,559 Speaker 1: I love those grasses. 2239 01:29:17,080 --> 01:29:20,759 Speaker 3: But San Diego like it had shitty It had shitty 2240 01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:23,880 Speaker 3: locker rooms and it was it was old, but it 2241 01:29:24,000 --> 01:29:26,120 Speaker 3: was still fun to play there. Yeah fuck yeah. 2242 01:29:26,200 --> 01:29:29,080 Speaker 2: I mean, well, the weather was great, like the tailgating 2243 01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:31,960 Speaker 2: and you're pulling up to the game and the barbecue. 2244 01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:34,360 Speaker 3: You know, they were showing out. Remember how you used 2245 01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:35,360 Speaker 3: to have to get on the field. You just have 2246 01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:37,479 Speaker 3: to go like duck down underneath that path. Yeah, and 2247 01:29:37,560 --> 01:29:39,519 Speaker 3: it was like it was like concrete that was like 2248 01:29:39,560 --> 01:29:41,800 Speaker 3: four feet tall and they had a big blue pad 2249 01:29:41,880 --> 01:29:43,479 Speaker 3: taped to it and it probably been the same one 2250 01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:45,760 Speaker 3: for the last thirty years and all these big guys, 2251 01:29:46,240 --> 01:29:48,120 Speaker 3: right yeah, and then all these big guys had to 2252 01:29:48,200 --> 01:29:52,439 Speaker 3: go up underneath. That's then we have the dugouts in Oakland. Yeah. 2253 01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:55,240 Speaker 2: That's when I remember going to play as a visitor 2254 01:29:55,320 --> 01:29:57,280 Speaker 2: to Oakland and you're in that little baseball locker room 2255 01:29:57,280 --> 01:29:59,479 Speaker 2: and it's dark and it's wet and it's dingy and 2256 01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,840 Speaker 2: it's smell and it's like, that's what Gruden did a 2257 01:30:01,840 --> 01:30:03,439 Speaker 2: really good job of our last year there. He's like, 2258 01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:06,840 Speaker 2: let's really embrace this. Like the Raiders in Oakland. You know, 2259 01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,920 Speaker 2: it's just such a perfect mesh of you know, like ideology. 2260 01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,280 Speaker 2: You know, smart, tough minded people, hard workers you know 2261 01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,320 Speaker 2: that are just gonna you know, they're just gritty people. 2262 01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:19,360 Speaker 2: And we really embraced like, hey, this is our last 2263 01:30:19,400 --> 01:30:21,960 Speaker 2: season here, like, let's really enjoy this. Let's embrace Oakland. 2264 01:30:22,040 --> 01:30:24,360 Speaker 2: That's that stadium is a dump, but it's our dump. 2265 01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:26,479 Speaker 2: Like let's go defend it. So it was kind of 2266 01:30:26,600 --> 01:30:28,519 Speaker 2: it was really cool to be there for the last 2267 01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:30,479 Speaker 2: season and then get to go to Vegas and enjoy 2268 01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:32,519 Speaker 2: the new stadium and the new practice cities and all. 2269 01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:35,240 Speaker 2: That was really cool to make that transition. I think 2270 01:30:35,280 --> 01:30:36,360 Speaker 2: it's good that they're in Vegas. 2271 01:30:36,800 --> 01:30:39,960 Speaker 3: I like, I love it. It's it's cool. Baal is 2272 01:30:39,960 --> 01:30:42,000 Speaker 3: a great sports town, you know, they love their sports. 2273 01:30:42,080 --> 01:30:42,360 Speaker 5: Vegas. 2274 01:30:42,520 --> 01:30:44,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can go up you know what I like 2275 01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:45,599 Speaker 3: about Vegas is you can go up there. 2276 01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:49,120 Speaker 2: You can see a UFC fight, go to a big event, 2277 01:30:49,200 --> 01:30:51,000 Speaker 2: then go to a Raiders game on Sunday, and Raiders 2278 01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:52,000 Speaker 2: games are so much fun. 2279 01:30:53,240 --> 01:30:55,000 Speaker 3: You know, there's just so much stuff going on up there. 2280 01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,400 Speaker 2: I'm up there a ton to uh to sport the 2281 01:30:57,439 --> 01:30:59,479 Speaker 2: team and be up around the guys, and there's always 2282 01:30:59,479 --> 01:31:01,000 Speaker 2: something good going on, you know, going to the Sphere 2283 01:31:01,040 --> 01:31:02,880 Speaker 2: for a concert or going to see this guy's show. 2284 01:31:03,080 --> 01:31:05,519 Speaker 2: It's it's a great town. I'm excited for them to 2285 01:31:05,560 --> 01:31:06,599 Speaker 2: get baseball and basketball. 2286 01:31:06,760 --> 01:31:09,200 Speaker 3: That'd be cool. Have you been to a Golden Nights game? 2287 01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,679 Speaker 3: I haven't. Awesome, awesome, I only go to Bruins games. 2288 01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:12,840 Speaker 6: Bro. 2289 01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:16,519 Speaker 2: When the Bruins play the Nights, you gotta come out 2290 01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,840 Speaker 2: with definitely one of the best live experiences I've ever 2291 01:31:19,880 --> 01:31:23,200 Speaker 2: been to. Like techno music, going lasers, fog like, it's 2292 01:31:23,200 --> 01:31:23,680 Speaker 2: pretty high. 2293 01:31:23,680 --> 01:31:25,639 Speaker 3: I have to come check it out. When then, when 2294 01:31:25,640 --> 01:31:27,679 Speaker 3: the Bruins come out come Are you you're in Vegas 2295 01:31:27,720 --> 01:31:29,960 Speaker 3: a bunch? Yeah, I'm in Vegas. Yeah, pretty much all season. 2296 01:31:30,640 --> 01:31:32,400 Speaker 3: I'd be remissed in that ass. But how was it 2297 01:31:32,520 --> 01:31:35,880 Speaker 3: like playing for Gruden? Awesome? I love Gruden, I love 2298 01:31:36,000 --> 01:31:36,920 Speaker 3: I love playing for him. 2299 01:31:36,920 --> 01:31:39,679 Speaker 2: You know, he's an old school football guy like Gruden, grinder, 2300 01:31:39,680 --> 01:31:42,000 Speaker 2: He's gonna grind you up. You are gonna practice hard, 2301 01:31:42,040 --> 01:31:43,960 Speaker 2: you are gonna play hard. Very similar to the program 2302 01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,560 Speaker 2: you guys operated, Squatt and Heavy, you know, all that 2303 01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:50,080 Speaker 2: kind of stuff. But like, my thing with Coach was 2304 01:31:50,200 --> 01:31:52,280 Speaker 2: Coach had a special relationship with everybody on that team. 2305 01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:54,680 Speaker 2: He impacted everybody's life on that team. He had a 2306 01:31:54,680 --> 01:31:58,080 Speaker 2: special relationship and everyone looked up to coach. Everyone loved 2307 01:31:58,120 --> 01:32:01,280 Speaker 2: Coach and playing with him him and you know, getting 2308 01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:03,559 Speaker 2: to see kind of his genius. And you know these 2309 01:32:03,600 --> 01:32:06,800 Speaker 2: guys like McVeigh and Kingsbury and stuff like that. You know, 2310 01:32:07,160 --> 01:32:11,200 Speaker 2: he would sit at his desk and he had big 2311 01:32:11,280 --> 01:32:13,760 Speaker 2: ass TV on his desk and he had an old 2312 01:32:13,800 --> 01:32:16,200 Speaker 2: school computer and he would sit there till he would 2313 01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:19,960 Speaker 2: go blind, and he would watch every NFL game that 2314 01:32:20,120 --> 01:32:22,840 Speaker 2: week in the NFL in his office, take notes come 2315 01:32:22,920 --> 01:32:24,800 Speaker 2: to us, Hey, these are the fads, this is what's 2316 01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:26,920 Speaker 2: going on. But to sit down and watch him make 2317 01:32:26,960 --> 01:32:28,719 Speaker 2: a game plan like, hey, they're gonna play two buzz, 2318 01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:30,560 Speaker 2: We're gonna do this. If they come out and do this, 2319 01:32:30,600 --> 01:32:33,439 Speaker 2: we're gonna do this. I had never been on a team, 2320 01:32:34,400 --> 01:32:37,360 Speaker 2: I never played an offense. That really was that kind 2321 01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:40,000 Speaker 2: of like forward thinking and able to like game plan, 2322 01:32:40,280 --> 01:32:42,800 Speaker 2: game plan and get out of certain situations. You know, 2323 01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:45,000 Speaker 2: I played on some teams in Miami. It was like, 2324 01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:46,800 Speaker 2: this is what we're running. We're gonna go in there, 2325 01:32:46,840 --> 01:32:49,000 Speaker 2: we're gonna run Jack Jill this, that, And you go 2326 01:32:49,080 --> 01:32:51,240 Speaker 2: in there and doesn't work, and you're like you're frustrated 2327 01:32:51,240 --> 01:32:53,120 Speaker 2: because you're like, that's that's all we got, Like that's 2328 01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:55,760 Speaker 2: our that's our fastball. So to be able to play 2329 01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:58,200 Speaker 2: with gru and and watch him get guys going like 2330 01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:01,680 Speaker 2: uh Jacobs and Austin a Row and Darren Waller. You know, 2331 01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,320 Speaker 2: Darren Waller was on his way out of the league. 2332 01:33:04,320 --> 01:33:06,679 Speaker 2: You know, no one, you know, no one saw any 2333 01:33:06,720 --> 01:33:10,000 Speaker 2: value in him. Gruden saw him in I think it 2334 01:33:10,120 --> 01:33:13,800 Speaker 2: was a preseason game or during the regular season, saw 2335 01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:16,280 Speaker 2: him running around before practice sing. He's like, who's that guy, 2336 01:33:16,520 --> 01:33:18,679 Speaker 2: and they were like, that's Darren Waller. Next thing you know, boom, 2337 01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,040 Speaker 2: He's in Oakland and he has a couple of thousand 2338 01:33:21,080 --> 01:33:22,240 Speaker 2: yards seasons. 2339 01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:23,960 Speaker 3: So it was really cool to see him with the 2340 01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:25,600 Speaker 3: matchups and stuff like that. That's why I wish we 2341 01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:26,920 Speaker 3: would have got a couple of years out of AB 2342 01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,120 Speaker 3: like Gruden's scheme up AB and let Derek Chucket Like, 2343 01:33:30,160 --> 01:33:32,240 Speaker 3: who would have been fun? That would have been fun? 2344 01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:33,200 Speaker 5: Damn. 2345 01:33:33,840 --> 01:33:36,480 Speaker 1: What's your thought on the NFL having a team overseas? 2346 01:33:36,920 --> 01:33:39,280 Speaker 2: You know, from a competitive standpoint, I don't like it. 2347 01:33:39,400 --> 01:33:41,280 Speaker 2: Like I like guys to be well rested. I like 2348 01:33:41,400 --> 01:33:44,640 Speaker 2: guys to be you know, not having to you know, 2349 01:33:44,800 --> 01:33:46,880 Speaker 2: go back and forth. Let's say, let's say it's in London. 2350 01:33:46,880 --> 01:33:49,000 Speaker 2: You know what I mean, You're going from London to 2351 01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:52,960 Speaker 2: LA to Miami back to London to hear So I 2352 01:33:53,200 --> 01:33:56,000 Speaker 2: just don't like it for a competitive deal, Like I 2353 01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:57,439 Speaker 2: would not want to play on that team. Would you 2354 01:33:57,479 --> 01:33:58,280 Speaker 2: want to play on that team? 2355 01:33:58,960 --> 01:34:01,320 Speaker 3: I mean, it'd be kind of cool to living in 2356 01:34:01,360 --> 01:34:03,360 Speaker 3: another country for it'd be cool. But then when you 2357 01:34:03,560 --> 01:34:05,120 Speaker 3: get on that schedule and you get on the road. 2358 01:34:05,160 --> 01:34:07,320 Speaker 3: But it depends on if they make it. They'll probably 2359 01:34:07,320 --> 01:34:09,479 Speaker 3: have like a US like home. 2360 01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:12,880 Speaker 2: Base, right, but think about just just straight up London team, 2361 01:34:13,240 --> 01:34:14,600 Speaker 2: and then the schedule makers just. 2362 01:34:14,760 --> 01:34:16,680 Speaker 3: Think they're gonna have to have like a division out 2363 01:34:16,720 --> 01:34:18,800 Speaker 3: there eventually. That's what they will have to do for 2364 01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:20,519 Speaker 3: sure if they want to have those four teams play 2365 01:34:20,560 --> 01:34:23,160 Speaker 3: each other then you have other teams go in and 2366 01:34:23,200 --> 01:34:25,760 Speaker 3: then I think it's inevitable. I just you know, I'm 2367 01:34:25,760 --> 01:34:29,400 Speaker 3: about it'd be tough, man, because that's like what I 2368 01:34:29,439 --> 01:34:31,559 Speaker 3: was talking about with the West Coast, Like that brings 2369 01:34:31,640 --> 01:34:35,200 Speaker 3: in a whole different dynamic of you know, in Buffalo, 2370 01:34:35,320 --> 01:34:37,839 Speaker 3: we wouldn't have to leave till two o'clock on Saturday. 2371 01:34:38,080 --> 01:34:40,479 Speaker 3: So Friday, I was getting my massage, I was getting 2372 01:34:40,479 --> 01:34:44,439 Speaker 3: my IVY Friday than Saturday, I was going to moving 2373 01:34:44,479 --> 01:34:46,640 Speaker 3: around and I was getting stretched here doing that, you know, 2374 01:34:46,760 --> 01:34:49,360 Speaker 3: working on mobility and stuff like that, and like it 2375 01:34:49,520 --> 01:34:50,200 Speaker 3: more expensive. 2376 01:34:50,600 --> 01:34:52,320 Speaker 2: Well, the thing about a Friday thing is I'm not 2377 01:34:52,360 --> 01:34:54,519 Speaker 2: getting my Friday massage, I'm not getting my Friday iv 2378 01:34:54,640 --> 01:34:57,120 Speaker 2: I'm not getting my Saturday movement or session. And you know, 2379 01:34:57,240 --> 01:35:00,080 Speaker 2: so it's like there's a whole different element of of 2380 01:35:00,240 --> 01:35:02,880 Speaker 2: rest recovery that comes in to take effect. Now you 2381 01:35:03,000 --> 01:35:04,960 Speaker 2: take that to London, or you take that to Brazil 2382 01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:06,280 Speaker 2: or whatever they want to do at Germany. 2383 01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:11,000 Speaker 3: I mean that's competitive, man, It's it's tough. It's tougher. Well, 2384 01:35:11,000 --> 01:35:14,200 Speaker 3: we'll finish it off with this. Who are some of 2385 01:35:14,280 --> 01:35:17,160 Speaker 3: the real raiders on the team right now? The real raiders, 2386 01:35:17,200 --> 01:35:20,639 Speaker 3: the real dudes. Yeah, like who's on the current roster, 2387 01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:23,640 Speaker 3: who's a real raider? Mad Max Crosby. I mean, that 2388 01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:25,599 Speaker 3: guy is the definition of a raider. 2389 01:35:25,680 --> 01:35:25,880 Speaker 6: You know. 2390 01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:30,080 Speaker 2: He was a skinny, little white dude coming out of 2391 01:35:30,120 --> 01:35:33,200 Speaker 2: Eastern Michigan. I mean you saw him his rookie year 2392 01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:35,680 Speaker 2: and you were just like what are they thinking? Like 2393 01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:39,240 Speaker 2: this kid's not big, he's not very fast. He's just 2394 01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:42,719 Speaker 2: kind of lanky, and he's has this really awkward pass rush. 2395 01:35:43,240 --> 01:35:45,519 Speaker 2: But then you saw him kind of go through some adversity, 2396 01:35:45,640 --> 01:35:48,280 Speaker 2: have some injuries, you know, get himself cleaned up, go 2397 01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:51,040 Speaker 2: to rehab, get everything going, and then you just saw 2398 01:35:51,160 --> 01:35:52,000 Speaker 2: him like take off. 2399 01:35:52,120 --> 01:35:53,760 Speaker 3: Like you saw him, he was a beast. 2400 01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,479 Speaker 2: Like I love telling Max Crosby stories because like I 2401 01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:59,400 Speaker 2: saw him from the young crazy rookie doing all this 2402 01:35:59,479 --> 01:36:01,840 Speaker 2: crazy shit and like, yeah, you're balling, but if you 2403 01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:03,439 Speaker 2: keep doing all that other stuff, you're not going to 2404 01:36:03,479 --> 01:36:04,240 Speaker 2: ball for very long. 2405 01:36:04,640 --> 01:36:05,960 Speaker 3: And he literally put it down. 2406 01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:09,040 Speaker 2: And then just watching him train, watching him take care 2407 01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,320 Speaker 2: of his body, watching him you know he gets done 2408 01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:13,280 Speaker 2: working out in the nutritious hands with a bag of 2409 01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:16,760 Speaker 2: supplements and snacks and food like this. He's always walking 2410 01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:19,160 Speaker 2: around with that bag. But what that bag is is 2411 01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:21,479 Speaker 2: that's that's his buy in. Like he's all in. He 2412 01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,479 Speaker 2: doesn't he's not taking a second off to not get better. 2413 01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:28,560 Speaker 2: So to see him transition from a guy to the 2414 01:36:28,760 --> 01:36:31,600 Speaker 2: guy and watch him bring the energy and practice and 2415 01:36:31,680 --> 01:36:33,840 Speaker 2: watch him just wreck a practice and I'm coaching the line. 2416 01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:35,920 Speaker 2: I'm just sitting back laughing like they're coming to me, 2417 01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:37,439 Speaker 2: like what what should I do on that one? I'm 2418 01:36:37,479 --> 01:36:38,439 Speaker 2: my good luck brother? 2419 01:36:38,600 --> 01:36:38,760 Speaker 6: You know. 2420 01:36:38,840 --> 01:36:41,559 Speaker 3: That's that's you know, that's one of those things right 2421 01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,880 Speaker 3: there where you know you could have done this, but 2422 01:36:44,040 --> 01:36:45,160 Speaker 3: then Max would do this, you know. 2423 01:36:45,320 --> 01:36:48,160 Speaker 2: So to see him to be able to uh, to 2424 01:36:48,320 --> 01:36:50,000 Speaker 2: just fly off the ball and bring it, you know, 2425 01:36:50,200 --> 01:36:53,040 Speaker 2: I love it. He sets the whole tempo for the 2426 01:36:53,320 --> 01:36:55,680 Speaker 2: entire team. So when you want to talk about the 2427 01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:58,000 Speaker 2: definition of a raider, a guy who's been through some shit, 2428 01:36:58,080 --> 01:37:02,200 Speaker 2: a guy who's learned, and a guy who's just become 2429 01:37:02,439 --> 01:37:04,200 Speaker 2: one of the faces of the NFL. 2430 01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,760 Speaker 3: UH, really really cool to see, really awesome. Always love 2431 01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:08,400 Speaker 3: seeing Max. 2432 01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:08,760 Speaker 7: Uh. 2433 01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,880 Speaker 3: It's it's it's you know, with a lot of these guys. 2434 01:37:11,920 --> 01:37:13,200 Speaker 2: You know, I was there with Max, I was there 2435 01:37:13,240 --> 01:37:15,960 Speaker 2: with Colton Miller, Andre James Wilmore, young offensive lineman. And 2436 01:37:16,040 --> 01:37:18,320 Speaker 2: now these guys are on their second and third contracts 2437 01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:20,160 Speaker 2: with the team. And these guys were really young, and 2438 01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:21,800 Speaker 2: I took them under my arm and I got them going, 2439 01:37:21,920 --> 01:37:24,000 Speaker 2: and you know, helped them on and off the field. 2440 01:37:24,080 --> 01:37:26,519 Speaker 2: And so it's kind of like that proud dad watching 2441 01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,479 Speaker 2: these guys all out. You know, they come from so 2442 01:37:28,640 --> 01:37:30,479 Speaker 2: young and now they're doing so well and they're thriving. 2443 01:37:30,479 --> 01:37:32,160 Speaker 2: You know, you sit back and I'm proud of my guys. 2444 01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:33,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's awesome. 2445 01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:34,639 Speaker 5: Man. 2446 01:37:34,680 --> 01:37:36,639 Speaker 3: We got any any leftovers from this game? 2447 01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:36,920 Speaker 4: Rich? 2448 01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:38,200 Speaker 3: Leftover from the game? 2449 01:37:38,520 --> 01:37:39,320 Speaker 6: No, that was it. 2450 01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:41,320 Speaker 3: You got anything that you want to plug? Nothing? 2451 01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:43,040 Speaker 2: I want to plug golf. Baby, if you're out there, 2452 01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,080 Speaker 2: if you want to play golf, I'm retired. I'm available. 2453 01:37:45,200 --> 01:37:48,680 Speaker 3: Let's fucking do it. You get on the course a 2454 01:37:48,680 --> 01:37:50,240 Speaker 3: little bit here and there, so you suck. 2455 01:37:52,160 --> 01:37:54,720 Speaker 8: He hit a shot like you play amis whatever. But 2456 01:37:54,800 --> 01:37:56,880 Speaker 8: he hits a shot like, how the fuck did you 2457 01:37:57,000 --> 01:37:57,960 Speaker 8: make that fucking shot? 2458 01:37:59,360 --> 01:38:01,880 Speaker 3: Horse Power? You got some horsepower. All you got to 2459 01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:03,600 Speaker 3: do is get that little blade, that little face on 2460 01:38:03,680 --> 01:38:05,160 Speaker 3: that ball. That thing will go at the club. 2461 01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:07,759 Speaker 4: You played more, you'd be just insane. 2462 01:38:08,360 --> 01:38:12,240 Speaker 3: I'm playing. I won't be that embarrassing. Yeah, we gotta 2463 01:38:12,240 --> 01:38:13,920 Speaker 3: get you out at Riviera over here. It's great. Yeah, 2464 01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:14,840 Speaker 3: it's it's a great course. 2465 01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:16,400 Speaker 5: Golf game looking right now. 2466 01:38:16,360 --> 01:38:17,400 Speaker 3: Golf game is looking good. 2467 01:38:19,360 --> 01:38:21,080 Speaker 2: I'm down to I'm a seven point six right now, 2468 01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:26,400 Speaker 2: seven point point when I when I keep I keep 2469 01:38:26,439 --> 01:38:29,800 Speaker 2: scoring each hole, so I get the different metric. But yeah, man, 2470 01:38:29,800 --> 01:38:32,280 Speaker 2: I live in Scottsdale, so I play three four times 2471 01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:33,880 Speaker 2: a week down there out here in Cali. 2472 01:38:33,880 --> 01:38:36,280 Speaker 3: You know, move around with you're a coach. I got 2473 01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:39,000 Speaker 3: a swing coach. Yeah, John Costas, John Costas Golf, got 2474 01:38:39,080 --> 01:38:40,240 Speaker 3: to shout him out. He's the man. 2475 01:38:41,560 --> 01:38:43,439 Speaker 2: But yeah, I love it, man, Like that's my that's 2476 01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:45,160 Speaker 2: you know. I get my workout in and I get 2477 01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:47,240 Speaker 2: get the get the emotion and the out and. 2478 01:38:47,280 --> 01:38:49,360 Speaker 3: The gott to go be a beast in there. 2479 01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:51,400 Speaker 2: And then I love just I love golf because it's 2480 01:38:51,479 --> 01:38:54,200 Speaker 2: it's competitive every shot everything. You know, there's a million 2481 01:38:54,200 --> 01:38:56,320 Speaker 2: different variables you have to take into account. And that's 2482 01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:58,000 Speaker 2: like where I get my competition, because I got to 2483 01:38:58,000 --> 01:38:58,519 Speaker 2: get it somewhere. 2484 01:38:58,560 --> 01:38:58,680 Speaker 6: You know. 2485 01:38:59,080 --> 01:39:01,280 Speaker 3: That's I'd love to compete, love to love to win. 2486 01:39:01,400 --> 01:39:05,280 Speaker 2: I see the Raider of the Golf Course. Yes, I'm 2487 01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:07,280 Speaker 2: out there. Well, I'm out I'm out there. I mean 2488 01:39:07,439 --> 01:39:09,679 Speaker 2: it's like it's like me, I I'll hit some shots 2489 01:39:09,720 --> 01:39:12,920 Speaker 2: in your even myself. I'm like, damn, bro, that's fucking nuts. 2490 01:39:13,000 --> 01:39:15,599 Speaker 2: But like we got some horsepower. You put that club 2491 01:39:15,640 --> 01:39:17,320 Speaker 2: face on that ball, that thing's gonna go for a ride. 2492 01:39:17,400 --> 01:39:20,839 Speaker 3: Yeah. I bet he probably hitting five hundred yard dongs 2493 01:39:23,080 --> 01:39:30,439 Speaker 3: or whatever. All right, the Khalio Matt game, the black 2494 01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:35,880 Speaker 3: and Silver UK edition Raiders Nations goes global? Oh yeah? 2495 01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:38,840 Speaker 1: Or Josh Jacob's Run Wild or do you have your 2496 01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:40,880 Speaker 1: own name for this game that you would like? 2497 01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:43,640 Speaker 2: Man, I like the Josh Jacobs Runs Wild because he 2498 01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:44,840 Speaker 2: was running wild that game. 2499 01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:47,840 Speaker 3: We had some plays drawn up, like some crazy plays. 2500 01:39:47,880 --> 01:39:50,680 Speaker 2: They were running a three four and uh Me and 2501 01:39:51,040 --> 01:39:53,360 Speaker 2: Colton Miller were gonna double team the five technique up 2502 01:39:53,400 --> 01:39:55,000 Speaker 2: to the front side backer and then we have we 2503 01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:57,559 Speaker 2: had a traditional full back. He's gonna come kick out 2504 01:39:57,840 --> 01:39:59,960 Speaker 2: and I mean we us three picked up these three 2505 01:40:00,080 --> 01:40:02,040 Speaker 2: bodies and we move them over to the numbers, and 2506 01:40:02,240 --> 01:40:04,000 Speaker 2: Jacob's got this ball and he ripped it. So I 2507 01:40:04,120 --> 01:40:06,559 Speaker 2: like Josh Jacobs runs Wild in London Town. 2508 01:40:06,600 --> 01:40:10,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, in London Town. It's our first London game. It is, 2509 01:40:10,680 --> 01:40:13,080 Speaker 1: this is our first London game. We'll be right back 2510 01:40:13,120 --> 01:40:19,920 Speaker 1: after this quick break. Is this the greatest game of 2511 01:40:20,000 --> 01:40:24,880 Speaker 1: all time? Let's score Richie zero to ten? Stakes of 2512 01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:27,439 Speaker 1: this game. Decimals are okay since we know you like 2513 01:40:27,520 --> 01:40:29,000 Speaker 1: them with seven point six handicaps. 2514 01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:31,599 Speaker 2: So the stakes of this game for both teams. Yeah, 2515 01:40:32,040 --> 01:40:33,680 Speaker 2: the stakes of this game. I mean it wasn't very 2516 01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:37,120 Speaker 2: high because we're coming off. I mean, they're all huge, 2517 01:40:37,520 --> 01:40:41,120 Speaker 2: So the steaks, I mean, I'm gonna give it a 2518 01:40:41,400 --> 01:40:42,360 Speaker 2: six point eight. 2519 01:40:45,080 --> 01:40:48,800 Speaker 3: That's very respectable. I'll go I'll go six. We're week five. 2520 01:40:49,400 --> 01:40:51,240 Speaker 4: Jack's had a four. I'm at a four to one. 2521 01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:54,479 Speaker 1: Star power of this game. Who's in the game, who's 2522 01:40:54,520 --> 01:40:56,639 Speaker 1: at the game? Coaches? 2523 01:40:57,360 --> 01:40:59,120 Speaker 3: Star power was pretty good for this one. I want 2524 01:40:59,160 --> 01:41:01,120 Speaker 3: to go too high. I mean, let's go a hair 2525 01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:03,759 Speaker 3: Hire seven point one. I like that seven. 2526 01:41:04,479 --> 01:41:06,160 Speaker 4: Jack has a six point zero. I had a five 2527 01:41:06,240 --> 01:41:06,680 Speaker 4: point one. 2528 01:41:07,160 --> 01:41:09,479 Speaker 3: The gameplay of the game, back and forth, you guys 2529 01:41:09,520 --> 01:41:10,360 Speaker 3: were up seventeen. 2530 01:41:10,479 --> 01:41:12,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was good, I mean it was It was 2531 01:41:12,240 --> 01:41:14,160 Speaker 2: good because it was a typical Raiders game. We jump 2532 01:41:14,200 --> 01:41:16,240 Speaker 2: out to a huge lead and then we're just watching defense, 2533 01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:18,880 Speaker 2: you know, kind of get scored on. 2534 01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:25,360 Speaker 3: So gameplay. I mean, I'll go six point nine. Nice, Nice, 2535 01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:27,320 Speaker 3: I'll do it for the boys. I'll do a gron 2536 01:41:27,479 --> 01:41:28,200 Speaker 3: six point nine. 2537 01:41:29,080 --> 01:41:31,280 Speaker 5: Hey, baby, there we go. 2538 01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:33,519 Speaker 3: The name change the game. 2539 01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:36,879 Speaker 1: Now you score the name of the game. Josh Jacobs 2540 01:41:37,040 --> 01:41:39,880 Speaker 1: runs wild in London Town. Josh Jacobs runs wild in 2541 01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:41,320 Speaker 1: London Town. Man, I'm gonna give you that at nine. 2542 01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:41,880 Speaker 3: That's good. 2543 01:41:42,040 --> 01:41:42,519 Speaker 5: Strong name. 2544 01:41:42,520 --> 01:41:49,479 Speaker 3: It's strong jj r w lt like the golf club 2545 01:41:49,960 --> 01:41:51,040 Speaker 3: jj r w lt. 2546 01:41:51,200 --> 01:41:51,439 Speaker 5: What's that? 2547 01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:53,639 Speaker 3: Josh Jacobs runs wild London Town. 2548 01:41:53,720 --> 01:41:55,799 Speaker 4: Baby, But you don't know, we don't have a twenty 2549 01:41:55,960 --> 01:41:56,639 Speaker 4: nineteen season. 2550 01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:00,519 Speaker 3: That's a good I'll go eight five. 2551 01:42:01,439 --> 01:42:02,280 Speaker 4: Jack has a three point. 2552 01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:06,600 Speaker 5: Before I knew the name, I didn't we had named it. 2553 01:42:06,760 --> 01:42:07,640 Speaker 5: Damn man, where is it? 2554 01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:11,160 Speaker 3: Where does you stack up? What's our score? Six point one? 2555 01:42:11,520 --> 01:42:12,599 Speaker 4: Six point zero one? 2556 01:42:13,240 --> 01:42:15,120 Speaker 3: You gottae. You gotta understand what games we've done. 2557 01:42:15,400 --> 01:42:19,679 Speaker 9: This puts us right ahead of the twenty eleven Week 2558 01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,439 Speaker 9: sixteen Patriots versus Bills the Dinosaur for every game we 2559 01:42:22,479 --> 01:42:26,719 Speaker 9: did with Matt Laight, and just below the twenty fourteen 2560 01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:31,320 Speaker 9: NLDS Game two Giants Nationals at six point one three baseball. 2561 01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:32,960 Speaker 3: That's where the baseball gets you know. 2562 01:42:33,000 --> 01:42:36,880 Speaker 4: It's it's our new there. We've done some games, yeah, 2563 01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:39,200 Speaker 4: macculate reception, push push. 2564 01:42:40,080 --> 01:42:42,599 Speaker 1: We had the Women's World Cup Final when they when 2565 01:42:42,640 --> 01:42:44,080 Speaker 1: Brandon Chistein took off her shirt. 2566 01:42:44,360 --> 01:42:46,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the bush push. I like that one. 2567 01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:47,599 Speaker 5: That was a great one. 2568 01:42:47,680 --> 01:42:48,320 Speaker 3: That's a good one. 2569 01:42:48,439 --> 01:42:51,439 Speaker 1: We had Uh Boys State Oklahoma in seven with the 2570 01:42:51,720 --> 01:42:52,479 Speaker 1: statue of Liberty. 2571 01:42:53,800 --> 01:42:55,120 Speaker 3: One of the guys from my high school. He was 2572 01:42:55,160 --> 01:42:57,240 Speaker 3: the center on that team. He's still talking about that game. 2573 01:42:57,600 --> 01:43:01,200 Speaker 3: Did you propose to his chack afterwards? Yeah? That was 2574 01:43:01,280 --> 01:43:04,040 Speaker 3: that game was nuts. That was an epic bowl season. 2575 01:43:04,160 --> 01:43:06,360 Speaker 3: That like that two year gap. That was like the 2576 01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:07,040 Speaker 3: bush push. 2577 01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:11,639 Speaker 4: Yeah, that that USC Texas. That's our white Whale game. 2578 01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:12,720 Speaker 5: You gotta do that game. 2579 01:43:13,479 --> 01:43:16,360 Speaker 3: Gotta get you gotta get v y on here. 2580 01:43:16,400 --> 01:43:18,559 Speaker 2: Ask him some questions, man, I got some questions from why. 2581 01:43:19,160 --> 01:43:21,200 Speaker 2: What question would you ask v Why he's a legend? 2582 01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:21,360 Speaker 6: Man? 2583 01:43:21,400 --> 01:43:29,240 Speaker 3: Where the where the sixty million bucks go? Oh gosh, 2584 01:43:30,479 --> 01:43:34,240 Speaker 3: holy suitable? Thanks rich I appreciate you coming on. Yeah, brother, 2585 01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:37,360 Speaker 3: thanks for having me, my dog man. That was a 2586 01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:40,280 Speaker 3: fun episode. That was wild baby Richie. 2587 01:43:40,479 --> 01:43:42,439 Speaker 5: Who knew a Week five game could be so fun. 2588 01:43:43,080 --> 01:43:45,200 Speaker 4: Who knew alignment? We gotta get more. 2589 01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:46,439 Speaker 3: We gotta get way. 2590 01:43:46,320 --> 01:43:49,320 Speaker 5: More oldlignment our third district keeping tracking over at light 2591 01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:50,040 Speaker 5: Andrew Whitworth. 2592 01:43:50,160 --> 01:43:51,080 Speaker 4: Whitworth. Yeah. 2593 01:43:51,240 --> 01:43:52,760 Speaker 5: With adding them to libor Pro. 2594 01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,120 Speaker 3: We had some old pro. We had some really good 2595 01:43:55,160 --> 01:43:58,040 Speaker 3: old linement. Who else we got? I gotta get Logan 2596 01:43:58,080 --> 01:44:01,400 Speaker 3: Mankins on. I saw him at the U, I saw 2597 01:44:01,479 --> 01:44:05,680 Speaker 3: him at Tom Brady Day and like, his wife's like, 2598 01:44:05,680 --> 01:44:08,120 Speaker 3: why didn't you ask Logan? And I was like, he 2599 01:44:08,160 --> 01:44:10,000 Speaker 3: probably wouldn't come on. I goes, Logan, would you come 2600 01:44:10,040 --> 01:44:12,080 Speaker 3: on to my podcast? He says, I'm like, what's the podcast? 2601 01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:18,360 Speaker 3: I like that respond exactly what. He's just farming. He's far. 2602 01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:21,439 Speaker 3: I think Logan Mankins literally he bought some he bought 2603 01:44:21,479 --> 01:44:25,639 Speaker 3: some property in like North Attleborough and just farms the land. 2604 01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:30,560 Speaker 3: Not for producing anything, but he just farms it. Just 2605 01:44:30,680 --> 01:44:34,320 Speaker 3: like like he wakes up early, plows the yard, hers, 2606 01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:36,320 Speaker 3: fucking loads the hay. 2607 01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:42,840 Speaker 5: That's just these the chickens, tends to his crops. He's 2608 01:44:42,880 --> 01:44:44,920 Speaker 5: living Farmville for real. No, he is. 2609 01:44:45,080 --> 01:44:46,439 Speaker 3: He is bro We got it. 2610 01:44:46,600 --> 01:44:46,720 Speaker 6: Uh. 2611 01:44:47,160 --> 01:44:48,559 Speaker 5: When we were talking about him earlier in the show, 2612 01:44:48,560 --> 01:44:50,639 Speaker 5: I was doing a little logan Mankins digging. His son 2613 01:44:50,720 --> 01:44:51,800 Speaker 5: is sophomore at u R. I. 2614 01:44:53,520 --> 01:44:56,320 Speaker 1: I know they're all big. I haven't seen I saw 2615 01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:59,160 Speaker 1: those kids when they were like two and five. And 2616 01:44:59,600 --> 01:45:03,479 Speaker 1: he's got daughter that's like graduating college. I used to 2617 01:45:03,479 --> 01:45:06,880 Speaker 1: spend Thanksgiving with him, real alignment. They would always invite 2618 01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:09,880 Speaker 1: me over because I was a you know, didn't have 2619 01:45:10,040 --> 01:45:12,840 Speaker 1: really a family, Like my family didn't come out and 2620 01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:15,559 Speaker 1: I didn't have I was kind of like a guy 2621 01:45:15,640 --> 01:45:18,599 Speaker 1: that was bouncing on the roster, you know, And he'd 2622 01:45:18,640 --> 01:45:21,400 Speaker 1: always invite with Dom and Dan Conley. Dan Conley was 2623 01:45:21,439 --> 01:45:24,519 Speaker 1: the best cook, Bro. Dan Colly could cook his balls off. 2624 01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:26,519 Speaker 1: I'd love to have him. Come on, isn't Dan Conley 2625 01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:27,160 Speaker 1: coaching out here? 2626 01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:28,280 Speaker 3: Is he not coaching? 2627 01:45:28,400 --> 01:45:28,560 Speaker 6: Is he? 2628 01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:28,960 Speaker 5: Wait? 2629 01:45:29,280 --> 01:45:31,120 Speaker 1: I think he's a chef. I think he literally became 2630 01:45:31,160 --> 01:45:33,800 Speaker 1: a chef thinking of this coaching. His brother was a chef. 2631 01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:38,280 Speaker 1: He made homemade marshmallows, knocked my faces off with dude s'mores, 2632 01:45:40,280 --> 01:45:42,679 Speaker 1: and he'd make his own pickles and beers and shit. 2633 01:45:43,120 --> 01:45:44,880 Speaker 3: Bro Craftsman, that's legit. 2634 01:45:45,720 --> 01:45:47,040 Speaker 5: Oh, I'm in here. 2635 01:45:47,080 --> 01:45:49,680 Speaker 3: Cool. They all have great like uh, they're smart too, 2636 01:45:49,840 --> 01:45:52,160 Speaker 3: They're very smart and they all have like awesome, like 2637 01:45:53,160 --> 01:45:57,160 Speaker 3: leisure full activities, a lot of hunting in those hobbies. 2638 01:45:57,560 --> 01:45:59,840 Speaker 4: But their hobbies you see less golf. 2639 01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:02,400 Speaker 3: I feel like on the line, Richie's Richie's a golfer 2640 01:46:02,479 --> 01:46:04,439 Speaker 3: though now she's in Arizona, Arizona. 2641 01:46:04,560 --> 01:46:06,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got a golf in your from Arizona. 2642 01:46:06,479 --> 01:46:08,360 Speaker 3: That was a fun episode and I think it's time 2643 01:46:08,479 --> 01:46:09,920 Speaker 3: to hit the old hot line. 2644 01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:10,680 Speaker 5: Let's get into it. 2645 01:46:10,960 --> 01:46:13,080 Speaker 3: Let's get into it. Remember that number is four two 2646 01:46:13,280 --> 01:46:17,400 Speaker 3: four two nine one two two nine zero. Let's get 2647 01:46:17,439 --> 01:46:17,880 Speaker 3: into it. 2648 01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:19,799 Speaker 6: I'm doing for Chicago. 2649 01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:22,240 Speaker 5: Just wanted to see what you thought about this Catleob 2650 01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:23,040 Speaker 5: Williams guy. 2651 01:46:23,680 --> 01:46:25,560 Speaker 6: He seems pretty good personally. 2652 01:46:25,720 --> 01:46:26,479 Speaker 9: Justin Fields fan. 2653 01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:28,479 Speaker 5: But what's done is done and I. 2654 01:46:28,520 --> 01:46:29,800 Speaker 6: Can't wait to see what he's got. 2655 01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:32,880 Speaker 5: Also, this is the longest it's been since the NFL 2656 01:46:32,960 --> 01:46:34,040 Speaker 5: has added a. 2657 01:46:34,200 --> 01:46:35,479 Speaker 6: New team from the Houston. 2658 01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:37,080 Speaker 3: Great fact the city. 2659 01:46:37,240 --> 01:46:41,040 Speaker 6: Would you guys like to see what you see? You 2660 01:46:41,080 --> 01:46:42,080 Speaker 6: guys love the podcast. 2661 01:46:42,200 --> 01:46:45,200 Speaker 3: Great call, that's a great call. That's a great call. 2662 01:46:45,760 --> 01:46:47,240 Speaker 3: I'm really excited for Chicago. 2663 01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:49,920 Speaker 1: This is the best situation that they've had on offense 2664 01:46:50,000 --> 01:46:51,519 Speaker 1: side of the ball in probably the history. 2665 01:46:51,320 --> 01:46:52,599 Speaker 3: Of the league or the team. 2666 01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:56,800 Speaker 1: I mean, if you if you really a pass heavy, 2667 01:46:57,040 --> 01:47:01,000 Speaker 1: a pass heavy team, I mean he Caleb did everything 2668 01:47:01,080 --> 01:47:04,479 Speaker 1: you wanted to see out of your number one pick 2669 01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:08,000 Speaker 1: overall in his first game that he's ever played in 2670 01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:11,960 Speaker 1: the National Football League. I mean, executed within the system. 2671 01:47:12,200 --> 01:47:14,919 Speaker 1: You saw a little bit of his magic, got outside 2672 01:47:14,960 --> 01:47:18,800 Speaker 1: the pocket that screen pass to get that screen off 2673 01:47:18,840 --> 01:47:21,040 Speaker 1: the way he did, that's harder than what like it 2674 01:47:21,240 --> 01:47:23,800 Speaker 1: looked all like he was that is that's a that's 2675 01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:27,240 Speaker 1: a great play to get the screen screen off. I 2676 01:47:27,320 --> 01:47:28,920 Speaker 1: mean a lot of times you see those balls get 2677 01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:32,439 Speaker 1: batted by quarterbacks and stuff. And then he hit that 2678 01:47:32,560 --> 01:47:35,560 Speaker 1: deep third down it was third and twelve and he 2679 01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:39,519 Speaker 1: hit that deep crow route to more DJ Moore. 2680 01:47:39,680 --> 01:47:42,040 Speaker 3: I mean, it was just it was good to see 2681 01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:46,160 Speaker 3: him play that way. And you know he being a 2682 01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:49,400 Speaker 3: fan of justin fields yet I think you know he's 2683 01:47:49,439 --> 01:47:52,800 Speaker 3: an athletic guy, but they are light years ahead with 2684 01:47:52,920 --> 01:47:54,560 Speaker 3: a guy that has never played a snap in this 2685 01:47:54,720 --> 01:47:58,720 Speaker 3: league compared to a guy that you know, played three 2686 01:47:58,800 --> 01:48:00,760 Speaker 3: years that didn't have him really many wins. And I 2687 01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:04,200 Speaker 3: know we can we can blame coaching this that you 2688 01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:07,280 Speaker 3: never really you saw unbelievable plays with his legs but 2689 01:48:07,400 --> 01:48:10,479 Speaker 3: you never saw the comfort that you saw with Caleb 2690 01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:11,559 Speaker 3: Williams in his first game. 2691 01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:14,240 Speaker 1: And I know it's vanilla looks. I know it's the preseason. 2692 01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:18,479 Speaker 1: We ain't seen that execution in Chicago ever. Oh, you're right, 2693 01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:22,200 Speaker 1: even if it's stressing up, like even in practice, I'm 2694 01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:23,400 Speaker 1: sure they never looked that good. 2695 01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:26,000 Speaker 3: No, for real, that was I mean, that was good. 2696 01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,840 Speaker 1: And with this whole another question about which team city 2697 01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:31,280 Speaker 1: I would like to see have a team. 2698 01:48:33,160 --> 01:48:36,360 Speaker 3: That's a really good question. Who would like a team? 2699 01:48:36,479 --> 01:48:38,440 Speaker 4: Think in domestic or international? 2700 01:48:38,640 --> 01:48:42,600 Speaker 1: I'm thinking domestic. I think we're still too early for international. 2701 01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:44,719 Speaker 4: Texas could probably support another team. 2702 01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:49,439 Speaker 3: With San Antonio. Mm hmm. What about like me and. 2703 01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:53,360 Speaker 8: Jack were talking maybe like for how much the south 2704 01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:56,800 Speaker 8: West football? I know it's college college football, but they're 2705 01:48:56,800 --> 01:48:59,240 Speaker 8: a little bit underrepresented in terms of NFL teams. 2706 01:48:59,600 --> 01:49:04,760 Speaker 5: Alabama they always in all the new the new leagues. 2707 01:49:04,720 --> 01:49:04,800 Speaker 3: The. 2708 01:49:07,479 --> 01:49:11,840 Speaker 5: Home of yeah, whatever spring league you're asking for. Oh, 2709 01:49:11,960 --> 01:49:14,760 Speaker 5: baby football up there, you know. I think the the 2710 01:49:14,960 --> 01:49:18,720 Speaker 5: flavor Salt Lake City, the flavor of the month of 2711 01:49:18,760 --> 01:49:19,400 Speaker 5: Salt Lake City. 2712 01:49:20,880 --> 01:49:21,960 Speaker 4: They're getting a new hockey team. 2713 01:49:22,760 --> 01:49:25,000 Speaker 1: I mean, those people like their ship too, And there's 2714 01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:28,040 Speaker 1: like a big you know, there's a big Polynesian culture 2715 01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:31,560 Speaker 1: out there. Like football is loved in Utah, you know, 2716 01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:33,640 Speaker 1: with the Mormon stuff. There's a lot of you know, 2717 01:49:33,720 --> 01:49:36,479 Speaker 1: Polynesian Mormons and so like a lot of them live 2718 01:49:36,560 --> 01:49:41,000 Speaker 1: there and there's some like Beastie beasty ass football players 2719 01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:43,160 Speaker 1: and out there, so they like football. 2720 01:49:43,760 --> 01:49:47,080 Speaker 3: I just don't know with like the rules of the league, 2721 01:49:47,160 --> 01:49:50,840 Speaker 3: if it would work because of the gambling, because of 2722 01:49:51,160 --> 01:49:54,080 Speaker 3: alcohol and stuff. I don't know the sales, you know. 2723 01:49:54,600 --> 01:49:56,880 Speaker 1: That's the thing with there's a lot of stuff in 2724 01:49:57,760 --> 01:50:01,240 Speaker 1: Salt Lake that like the because of the influence of 2725 01:50:01,320 --> 01:50:04,680 Speaker 1: the that that really you know, all those people, it's 2726 01:50:04,680 --> 01:50:06,720 Speaker 1: a pretty clean, nitty, greedy they. 2727 01:50:06,680 --> 01:50:09,080 Speaker 3: Do what they do type place facts facts. 2728 01:50:09,200 --> 01:50:11,479 Speaker 1: But it's when I went there. I went and watched 2729 01:50:11,520 --> 01:50:15,439 Speaker 1: the UFC event out there, which was spectacular. Shout out 2730 01:50:15,479 --> 01:50:17,880 Speaker 1: Dana White. It was I thought I was only going 2731 01:50:17,880 --> 01:50:20,200 Speaker 1: to see white people. It was a lot more diverse 2732 01:50:20,240 --> 01:50:20,719 Speaker 1: than I thought. 2733 01:50:20,920 --> 01:50:21,639 Speaker 4: It's a big city. 2734 01:50:22,240 --> 01:50:24,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, well you think Salt Lake City, you think it 2735 01:50:24,120 --> 01:50:28,080 Speaker 1: ain't none, but saw yeah, facts I was. 2736 01:50:28,240 --> 01:50:30,559 Speaker 3: I was amazed. I mean it was still not a lot, 2737 01:50:30,640 --> 01:50:32,519 Speaker 3: but that's yeah. 2738 01:50:32,520 --> 01:50:33,720 Speaker 5: I was gonna say much. 2739 01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:35,439 Speaker 3: But it was more than I expected. 2740 01:50:35,479 --> 01:50:36,599 Speaker 5: All right, there's something to say. 2741 01:50:36,720 --> 01:50:39,840 Speaker 3: It's more expected. I will say beautiful city. Beautiful city, 2742 01:50:40,600 --> 01:50:43,160 Speaker 3: very nice people and a lot more diverse than I 2743 01:50:43,200 --> 01:50:43,920 Speaker 3: thought it was going to be. 2744 01:50:44,240 --> 01:50:46,920 Speaker 8: Hell yeah, you go Canada to Canada to I think, 2745 01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:51,960 Speaker 8: I think Toronto, Vancouver, Toronto like that, but Toronto who Toronto, 2746 01:50:52,120 --> 01:50:54,960 Speaker 8: Buffalo and Buffalo and I think the Argonauts follow us 2747 01:50:55,000 --> 01:50:55,920 Speaker 8: on Twitter, on Instagram. 2748 01:50:56,040 --> 01:50:59,120 Speaker 3: Let's go, baby shot. The BC Lions don't, and they 2749 01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:02,280 Speaker 3: fucking they after me, got your right, still probably still do. 2750 01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:04,760 Speaker 3: I'm more of a coming out. I'm coming out. 2751 01:51:04,880 --> 01:51:06,120 Speaker 5: I must stand on the soapbox. 2752 01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:06,280 Speaker 6: Bro. 2753 01:51:07,000 --> 01:51:08,559 Speaker 5: Give the people of Oakland the team back. 2754 01:51:08,600 --> 01:51:08,880 Speaker 3: Baby. 2755 01:51:09,000 --> 01:51:12,080 Speaker 5: They've lost too many damn They've lost too many damn teams. 2756 01:51:12,120 --> 01:51:15,240 Speaker 3: So we can put the Oakland team. Oakland can only 2757 01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:16,839 Speaker 3: have the Raiders. Bro, the Oakland hypees. 2758 01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:21,439 Speaker 5: I don't care. I don't care. Bro, give them something. 2759 01:51:21,680 --> 01:51:26,800 Speaker 5: The people of Oakland need a team back. Basketballakland, the 2760 01:51:26,920 --> 01:51:28,040 Speaker 5: Oakland ghost Ride, the Whips. 2761 01:51:28,320 --> 01:51:29,639 Speaker 3: Oakland is kind of tight. 2762 01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:32,760 Speaker 5: Sorry I'm stealing Valor here. I mean gibe that the coach. 2763 01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:34,680 Speaker 3: Maybe this talk will get Marsha on to come on. 2764 01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:39,040 Speaker 3: Now we're talking because he's king Bay. He could be 2765 01:51:39,120 --> 01:51:40,800 Speaker 3: the guy, he could be the ambassador to get him back. 2766 01:51:40,840 --> 01:51:42,320 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's true, but I heard like 2767 01:51:42,439 --> 01:51:46,240 Speaker 1: a rumor through the grapevine, which is probably one hundred 2768 01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:49,679 Speaker 1: percent not not not right. But I heard he built 2769 01:51:49,800 --> 01:51:53,280 Speaker 1: like a Miami style house on the Bay in like Richmond. 2770 01:51:54,120 --> 01:51:58,000 Speaker 5: Yes on the yes, I hope that's true. 2771 01:51:58,040 --> 01:52:00,880 Speaker 3: I hope it's true. Someone confirmed. If that true, that rules. 2772 01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:04,280 Speaker 7: This is a Paul from Rhode Island. So I've got 2773 01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:08,479 Speaker 7: a Kent State dynasty with you as the head coach, 2774 01:52:08,600 --> 01:52:12,640 Speaker 7: Julian Edelman, and you know it's about time we get 2775 01:52:12,680 --> 01:52:14,240 Speaker 7: out of the MAC. I think, so is it the 2776 01:52:14,280 --> 01:52:17,519 Speaker 7: ACC or is it the Big twelve? I'm not ready 2777 01:52:17,560 --> 01:52:20,439 Speaker 7: for the SEC keep it one hundred dasis. 2778 01:52:21,479 --> 01:52:26,000 Speaker 1: Considering the re alignments, I wonder who's in that ACC 2779 01:52:26,160 --> 01:52:28,240 Speaker 1: in that Big twelve. That has a lot to do 2780 01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:30,360 Speaker 1: with it, because if if they're jumping, that means other 2781 01:52:30,439 --> 01:52:33,559 Speaker 1: teams are jumping. So what's his what's that division? 2782 01:52:33,600 --> 01:52:35,320 Speaker 3: Look like? This is an incomplete question. 2783 01:52:35,640 --> 01:52:39,360 Speaker 1: I don't even know how that was Clemson's out of accame. 2784 01:52:39,520 --> 01:52:43,080 Speaker 4: Let's just say right now, current current current conferences. 2785 01:52:43,439 --> 01:52:46,200 Speaker 3: I think we go big twelve because I got to 2786 01:52:46,240 --> 01:52:48,640 Speaker 3: win against a Big twelve team against Iowa State, So 2787 01:52:48,720 --> 01:52:50,840 Speaker 3: I'm going Big twelve Cyclones. 2788 01:52:51,479 --> 01:52:54,400 Speaker 5: You got. Now you've got Arizona back in there, Arizona 2789 01:52:54,479 --> 01:52:56,880 Speaker 5: State in there, which is weird coming over from the 2790 01:52:56,960 --> 01:53:00,760 Speaker 5: PAC twelve. Baylor BYU is new U c F is 2791 01:53:00,840 --> 01:53:04,439 Speaker 5: new Cincinnati's new Colorado back in the Big twelve new 2792 01:53:04,560 --> 01:53:09,000 Speaker 5: though from the Pack twelve, Houston, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, 2793 01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:14,240 Speaker 5: that's fun, Oklahoma State, TCU, Texas Tech, Utah, and West Virginia. 2794 01:53:14,360 --> 01:53:16,360 Speaker 3: I still go ACC so you can play in Lane 2795 01:53:16,400 --> 01:53:18,280 Speaker 3: Stadium there you go ACC. 2796 01:53:18,840 --> 01:53:19,040 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2797 01:53:19,400 --> 01:53:22,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, Big twelve's weird. I forgot about a big twelve 2798 01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:23,040 Speaker 3: sounds more kenty. 2799 01:53:23,560 --> 01:53:24,880 Speaker 5: Yeah you know you're in that. 2800 01:53:25,280 --> 01:53:26,400 Speaker 3: You're more in the Midwest. 2801 01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:26,960 Speaker 5: Yeah. 2802 01:53:27,320 --> 01:53:29,280 Speaker 3: ACC feels east coasty as fuck to me. 2803 01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:32,479 Speaker 4: Still does East coasty South in a little soft Yeah. 2804 01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:36,080 Speaker 3: We need a little grit and like Big twelve's diet 2805 01:53:36,160 --> 01:53:36,559 Speaker 3: Big ten. 2806 01:53:37,040 --> 01:53:39,439 Speaker 5: Hey, that's a good line. Yeah, you got grit with 2807 01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,479 Speaker 5: Houston in West Virginia and there are some gritty schools. 2808 01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:46,759 Speaker 3: I like that except Jewels. Big end of the podcast. 2809 01:53:48,640 --> 01:53:51,679 Speaker 3: So recently just graduated U s LA and my girlfriend 2810 01:53:51,720 --> 01:53:52,200 Speaker 3: broke up with me. 2811 01:53:52,320 --> 01:53:54,120 Speaker 7: Do you have any advice on how to get back 2812 01:53:54,160 --> 01:53:55,559 Speaker 7: out there or like, what's do next? 2813 01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:56,240 Speaker 5: Thank? 2814 01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:59,519 Speaker 3: Ben appreciates you. Bye. He broke up with his girlfriend. 2815 01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:00,800 Speaker 5: She broke up. 2816 01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:05,840 Speaker 3: From probably right out of college, gained a degree, lost 2817 01:54:05,880 --> 01:54:06,160 Speaker 3: a girl. 2818 01:54:06,200 --> 01:54:06,560 Speaker 5: I hate that. 2819 01:54:06,880 --> 01:54:09,439 Speaker 4: No, that's the best thing for you, buddy, is it? Yeah? 2820 01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:10,320 Speaker 4: You're stuck. 2821 01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:11,639 Speaker 3: Got my heart broken in college. 2822 01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:13,800 Speaker 4: Here's what you do. 2823 01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:18,160 Speaker 8: You're in l A. You go to Hello at Games 2824 01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:20,680 Speaker 8: with Names dot Com. You send in a resume, be 2825 01:54:20,720 --> 01:54:22,920 Speaker 8: a researcher for old games with names. We're looking for 2826 01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:25,400 Speaker 8: some for some bodies to help with some stats. 2827 01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:28,000 Speaker 5: Or I don't know, I don't know. 2828 01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:35,720 Speaker 3: Or there's a little place in Venice. You go down 2829 01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:39,240 Speaker 3: to this place called El Chocho. Oh, Steve you'll get 2830 01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:40,720 Speaker 3: you right. And Steve, you will get you right. 2831 01:54:41,320 --> 01:54:42,440 Speaker 5: Have you a couple of gold ones? 2832 01:54:43,160 --> 01:54:46,480 Speaker 1: They got They got a cool like singles page. I 2833 01:54:46,680 --> 01:54:49,960 Speaker 1: like that, like a singles page for sucking the bar 2834 01:54:50,160 --> 01:54:51,040 Speaker 1: or something by Buddy. 2835 01:54:51,280 --> 01:54:53,880 Speaker 5: Damn, Steve ain't telling me about that. Yeah on that, bro, 2836 01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:56,440 Speaker 5: there you go. Oh man, that's what you should move. 2837 01:54:56,640 --> 01:54:59,520 Speaker 1: You're young, you got a degree, Go go travel, go 2838 01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:03,400 Speaker 1: do swain ship. Yes, bro, No, do bat do Bruce 2839 01:55:03,440 --> 01:55:05,960 Speaker 1: Wayne when he he lost his parents and he had 2840 01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:09,760 Speaker 1: to go live in as a criminal, learn the bad 2841 01:55:09,840 --> 01:55:12,680 Speaker 1: ways to see perspective of what he's really on this 2842 01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:13,160 Speaker 1: earth for. 2843 01:55:13,560 --> 01:55:15,360 Speaker 3: He doesn't even know he's out here for you. Twenty 2844 01:55:15,400 --> 01:55:16,000 Speaker 3: two years old. 2845 01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:19,560 Speaker 5: Amen, brother, you know explore dog. I feel bad for 2846 01:55:19,680 --> 01:55:21,480 Speaker 5: my guy though I dot in there at Homie. 2847 01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:22,240 Speaker 3: Listen to Usher. 2848 01:55:22,360 --> 01:55:24,360 Speaker 4: You got it, You got it bad. 2849 01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:34,080 Speaker 3: Man, You got it, You got it bad miss. 2850 01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:36,400 Speaker 6: Man. 2851 01:55:40,920 --> 01:55:43,040 Speaker 4: We're like hour two of the show. If anyone's here, 2852 01:55:43,120 --> 01:55:44,320 Speaker 4: you guys are the real fans. 2853 01:55:44,800 --> 01:55:48,200 Speaker 5: Brother, get out there, horse, brother, believe in you. 2854 01:55:48,560 --> 01:55:50,400 Speaker 3: You help me see what's up? 2855 01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:58,080 Speaker 6: Fellas. Uh just listen to Casey Affleck episode. Born and 2856 01:55:58,200 --> 01:56:03,160 Speaker 6: raised Bostonian, he had. My name is Nick. I'm calling 2857 01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:06,400 Speaker 6: because I'm a little upset. First of all, let me 2858 01:56:06,520 --> 01:56:09,400 Speaker 6: just say I love the show. Listen every week, love it, 2859 01:56:09,560 --> 01:56:13,560 Speaker 6: Love you guys, Jules followed you since you gut here 2860 01:56:13,800 --> 01:56:19,640 Speaker 6: in New England. Love your kid you always. I'm a 2861 01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:27,440 Speaker 6: little upset about the top five most not hated New 2862 01:56:27,560 --> 01:56:31,720 Speaker 6: York athletes. I believe Marianna Rivera has to be on 2863 01:56:31,840 --> 01:56:37,640 Speaker 6: that list. Marianna Rivera received a standing ovation and friendly 2864 01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:44,440 Speaker 6: Park by every single Bostonian who attended the game on 2865 01:56:44,640 --> 01:56:49,360 Speaker 6: Opening Day in two thousand and five. That that does 2866 01:56:49,480 --> 01:56:54,120 Speaker 6: not happen, just does not happen. I heard, you know, 2867 01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:57,320 Speaker 6: I respect you guys so much, but I heard Yagora 2868 01:56:57,680 --> 01:57:01,280 Speaker 6: yaga in there. To me, he's a Pittsburgh tenguin. 2869 01:57:01,360 --> 01:57:03,840 Speaker 3: That's what I thought that, Tyler. 2870 01:57:04,480 --> 01:57:05,920 Speaker 6: I think we got to rethink that one. 2871 01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:06,240 Speaker 3: Guys. 2872 01:57:06,720 --> 01:57:07,040 Speaker 6: Thank you. 2873 01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:09,200 Speaker 3: I believe I'm with you, dude. 2874 01:57:09,360 --> 01:57:12,880 Speaker 6: Every Bostonian hand that I know loves him. I mean 2875 01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:15,960 Speaker 6: you might find a guy here or there who hates him, 2876 01:57:16,640 --> 01:57:21,839 Speaker 6: but uh, mostly in the city of Boston, Marianna Rivera 2877 01:57:22,040 --> 01:57:23,160 Speaker 6: is highly respected. 2878 01:57:24,000 --> 01:57:25,760 Speaker 3: Thanks guys, very respective. 2879 01:57:25,760 --> 01:57:28,840 Speaker 5: I agree, Nick, I'll give you that, brother. You got us, Nick, Nick, 2880 01:57:28,920 --> 01:57:31,960 Speaker 5: your your hands down one hundred right. 2881 01:57:32,280 --> 01:57:35,040 Speaker 4: Of all of all the things that Nick from Boston 2882 01:57:35,120 --> 01:57:38,600 Speaker 4: talking about Fenway Pack, Yeah, I mean yeah, he's standing 2883 01:57:38,640 --> 01:57:40,360 Speaker 4: on the table for Mariano Rivera. 2884 01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:42,640 Speaker 5: Love it. That's how you know there's respect. Man. 2885 01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:42,920 Speaker 4: Dude. 2886 01:57:42,960 --> 01:57:45,040 Speaker 1: We had a play named after him because he was 2887 01:57:45,080 --> 01:57:49,560 Speaker 1: the closer. Oh shoot, the stopper. It was a stopper. 2888 01:57:50,200 --> 01:57:52,480 Speaker 1: Why shoot, It's like one of those terms that we 2889 01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:54,640 Speaker 1: were talking about. Richie one kills everyone. 2890 01:57:54,960 --> 01:57:57,320 Speaker 5: Yes, bro, it was Rivera made Guys. 2891 01:57:57,480 --> 01:57:59,800 Speaker 3: If you need to stop, you put in Mario Rivera 2892 01:57:59,840 --> 01:58:01,640 Speaker 3: in Mariano Rivera in. 2893 01:58:01,640 --> 01:58:03,600 Speaker 5: There, and we ain't talking about Horaldo. Baby, this is 2894 01:58:03,600 --> 01:58:09,520 Speaker 5: Mariano Mariano. Let's go, Baby, I'll get it. Nick, thank 2895 01:58:09,560 --> 01:58:11,760 Speaker 5: you for calling Nick. 2896 01:58:11,800 --> 01:58:13,680 Speaker 3: You're right, bro? But Nick, where's he? Where did you 2897 01:58:13,720 --> 01:58:15,800 Speaker 3: say he was from? He's from Boston? Yeah, but he 2898 01:58:15,840 --> 01:58:21,160 Speaker 3: didn't say that Bostonian. I mean, and I I can't 2899 01:58:21,160 --> 01:58:22,880 Speaker 3: have a lot more an action like that though, Like 2900 01:58:22,960 --> 01:58:24,080 Speaker 3: he's in it, he's in. 2901 01:58:24,160 --> 01:58:26,680 Speaker 1: It, but you can even know more about him if 2902 01:58:26,720 --> 01:58:29,040 Speaker 1: he gave us actual neighborhood Quincy. 2903 01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:32,200 Speaker 5: You think it's South Shore? Do you think you've seen 2904 01:58:32,240 --> 01:58:33,040 Speaker 5: the Instigators yet? 2905 01:58:33,640 --> 01:58:34,000 Speaker 3: He better? 2906 01:58:34,280 --> 01:58:34,480 Speaker 7: Better? 2907 01:58:35,640 --> 01:58:36,720 Speaker 3: Better. That's a great movie. 2908 01:58:36,880 --> 01:58:37,360 Speaker 5: Great movie. 2909 01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:39,360 Speaker 8: Also, your a Mariaga was there for like nine years. 2910 01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:41,600 Speaker 8: Huge Penguins fan. He had like a twenty five year career. 2911 01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:46,879 Speaker 8: Next question please, But also, yeah, I man Yaga, I'm incredible. 2912 01:58:47,120 --> 01:58:49,720 Speaker 5: A full cup of coffee with the Rangers, Yeah, hit 2913 01:58:49,720 --> 01:58:51,560 Speaker 5: a couple of coffee with her, Okay, like it was 2914 01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:51,960 Speaker 5: a lot. 2915 01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:54,200 Speaker 4: He belongs to the league. I was just trying to 2916 01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:56,760 Speaker 4: find a ranger, right, not a whole lot of likable Rangers. 2917 01:58:56,840 --> 01:58:58,080 Speaker 4: Let's let's wrap this up. 2918 01:58:57,960 --> 01:59:00,440 Speaker 3: All right, let's do it well. What game? 2919 01:59:00,600 --> 01:59:04,040 Speaker 1: Thanks again to Richie. That was a fun episode. That's 2920 01:59:04,080 --> 01:59:08,200 Speaker 1: been another episode of Games with Names. Subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, 2921 01:59:08,280 --> 01:59:10,800 Speaker 1: wherever you listen to your podcast. Coming a game you 2922 01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:14,960 Speaker 1: want us to do and remember, rate and review. Remember 2923 01:59:15,000 --> 01:59:18,000 Speaker 1: to follow Games with Names on YouTube, Instagram, x TikTok, 2924 01:59:18,120 --> 01:59:21,480 Speaker 1: and snapchat. 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