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Speaker 1: prescription drugs, yes, legal drugs, opiates. They're killing people every day.

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Speaker 1: my boy Andy and we got her from his sister sawting.

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Speaker 1: We stole her weed from her and we went to

424
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Speaker 1: the canal bank. And but the weed wasn't really like

425
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,480
Speaker 1: it wasn't. It was just to do it. The stuff

426
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,440
Speaker 1: that we was do was more alcohol, uh, smoking wet

427
00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 1: PCP you know what I mean, like you know, street

428
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:41,120
Speaker 1: drugs like you know, And it was just to be cool.

429
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,800
Speaker 1: So it wasn't like an everyday thing. It was just

430
00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 1: when we would kick it, we would do drugs and

431
00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: go steal ships, steal cars, fights with other kids. You

432
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,960
Speaker 1: know that now now crazy? Yeah, now hold on now

433
00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:57,919
Speaker 1: we're now we're getting into some good criminal activity that

434
00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 1: you're you're engaging in. And and what period of time,

435
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: what time frame? When? No, let's do this. When was

436
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:10,160
Speaker 1: the first time you got arrested for doing this stuff? Oh? Dude,

437
00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,640
Speaker 1: I was strick man. I mean, well, actually no, it wasn't.

438
00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:18,320
Speaker 1: That's like hold on, wait wait a minute, wait, hold on,

439
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,639
Speaker 1: that's a simple question. When was the first time you

440
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:32,159
Speaker 1: got arrested? Um? Think you think because I want to

441
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 1: put it. I want to, I want to, I want

442
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:37,240
Speaker 1: to get a time. I'm gonna reference point here because

443
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 1: you get into junior high school. Were you in high school? Yeah?

444
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 1: It was during high school. So you got arrested the

445
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:48,040
Speaker 1: first time in high school. Do you remember what you

446
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:52,440
Speaker 1: were arrested for the very first time? Yeah? Man, we

447
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:56,199
Speaker 1: uh we stole a bunch of wood to build a

448
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 1: half pipe. But you stole I know that's crazy. No,

449
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 1: no, no no, no no, wait, we told a bunch of wood

450
00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: to build a half pipe. That's something that skateboarders use, right,

451
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:09,159
Speaker 1: is that what you're talking about? We're actually yeah, we

452
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:17,720
Speaker 1: were my bikesicles, rollerblades, skateboard scooters, being all that. Hold on,

453
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: hold on, now, what this is? Your first crime is

454
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:28,560
Speaker 1: stealing wood to build a fucking so so so so

455
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: and you're trying to stay out of trouble. Well yeah, okay,

456
00:25:32,640 --> 00:25:35,879
Speaker 1: Now let me ask you this. Was there smoking and

457
00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: drinking going on before the thievery of the wood. No,

458
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:42,919
Speaker 1: it wasn't nothing like that. All the stuff that we

459
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: did when we drank and got in trouble, we got

460
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 1: away with. Man, I'm not gonna lie to you, bro.

461
00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:49,199
Speaker 1: We got away with so much. I got in trouble,

462
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,680
Speaker 1: trouble when I got older. We're going so so six

463
00:25:52,760 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 1: years old, so way out of high school. So but

464
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 1: the first time you're arrested in high school is for

465
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 1: stealing stealing wood? How did you get how did where

466
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:08,400
Speaker 1: was the wood? These older skateboarder kids snitched on us, bro.

467
00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: So they were building these houses and we're a bunch

468
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:12,479
Speaker 1: of poor kids and we were trying to stay out

469
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 1: of trouble, and we didn't have no, you know, way

470
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: to buy the wood. And we're like, well, they got

471
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:18,919
Speaker 1: all kinds of wood, and we knew this skateboarder, this

472
00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:21,440
Speaker 1: older cat, was like, will steal us wood, and we'll

473
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: take all the wood for you guys. You guys, go

474
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:26,479
Speaker 1: steal it. We'll give you yours, but we want some.

475
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 1: And then they got in trouble, told the cops on us,

476
00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,200
Speaker 1: snitched on us, and they came and we got arrested,

477
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 1: don't know how for everything? Yeah, bro stf you, bro.

478
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 1: So that's where they were. Big kids were like younger

479
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:47,200
Speaker 1: and there were these older kids like, oh man, yeah,

480
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: they have no honor, they have no honor, they have

481
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:53,360
Speaker 1: no soul. And I'm sure they got what they deserved.

482
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:56,239
Speaker 1: But we don't have to talk about so. So so

483
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 1: you just said it. So twenty six years old is

484
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,680
Speaker 1: the first time you get arrest still, so so let's

485
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,480
Speaker 1: talk about it. So from from from high school, let's say,

486
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 1: so from eighteen years of eight to you are when

487
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: we can really start using drugs to the point I

488
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: need to steal a car so I can get money

489
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:25,480
Speaker 1: so I can get my drugs. When that start? So,

490
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: oh man, dude, I'm in Orange County. I started, and

491
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,040
Speaker 1: this is when the price started. Actually saw we's done

492
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,480
Speaker 1: a good twenty six. Don't like the pregan at six?

493
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Speaker 1: You know what? You know what that's that's just perfect

494
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:42,200
Speaker 1: because my stopwatch stopped and we I could, I could

495
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 1: talk to you, but we got to do seconds here.

496
00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 1: It is a show. And when we come we are

497
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: gonna talk about sober junkie and go into prison right

498
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 1: here on cant this talk one on one. Let back

499
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Speaker 1: to Rocket Seeds dot com or on I G at

501
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Speaker 1: Rocket Underscore Seat. Welcome back to Cannaba's Talk one oh one.

502
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,120
Speaker 1: Mark and Craig and Pop Brothers at Law, Blue and

503
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:19,840
Speaker 1: Joe Grande, mark little brother the loss here holding it

504
00:28:19,960 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 1: down once again as blue Joe Grande and my big

505
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: brother out social distancing somewhere, and I'm here, of course

506
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 1: with the sober junkie singer artists, activists. I mean, the

507
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: list goes on and on with the things this guy

508
00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: is doing. But before he got there, he went to prison,

509
00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: state prison, the whole the shoe saw at all thanks

510
00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:51,760
Speaker 1: to things like meth and harrowing the frangle and take

511
00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:56,920
Speaker 1: control of somebody's life. And and thank you so much

512
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: for being so open and honest with every buddy. And

513
00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: it's it's helps me bigger than me, more bigger than me, man,

514
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:10,360
Speaker 1: it helps people. Okay, so we left off you had

515
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 1: you had, you had been running around after high school

516
00:29:15,240 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 1: doing doing drugs, doing party and stealing things. But at

517
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: some point there it turned into the real hard stuff,

518
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 1: the meth, the heroine and you were you were robbed,

519
00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: you were you were robbing and stealing to get your

520
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: hands on on the drugs. Right, And so what was

521
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 1: the crime that landed you in prison? So that was

522
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:48,960
Speaker 1: g t A Now evasion grand theft auto right in

523
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:54,600
Speaker 1: the evasion and you were evading, oh so this car chase. Yeah,

524
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:56,840
Speaker 1: does the car chase? I'm sorry, I don't mean to

525
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: get so excited, but that's exciting. You watch it on TV,

526
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: It's like, well, let's carcase. So you you're one of

527
00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 1: these guys who has maybe filmed being how many I

528
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,160
Speaker 1: was on the front I was on the front page

529
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: of the Medeskto paper. I took him on an l

530
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: of a shapes man. Alright, so hold on. I took

531
00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: him from Turlock, California to Dinare, California, and I hit

532
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:21,760
Speaker 1: back road country roads. I was, you know, going over

533
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty five eighty four El Camino with

534
00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:32,800
Speaker 1: a four fifty four supersport. Yeah, eighty four El Camino.

535
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,200
Speaker 1: And so wait a minute, by one one day baby?

536
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: All right? You know I'm an attorney, So let's go back.

537
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:45,440
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta, so do do you do you

538
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 1: at all remember the year or the date at all?

539
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:57,160
Speaker 1: Two thousand six? Uh? Two thousand and six? November? Oh wow? Okay, alright,

540
00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: so November fourteen, two thousand six, you wake up that morning?

541
00:31:02,680 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: What did you do? Huh? Yeah? Where is Joe Grande

542
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:14,400
Speaker 1: when I need him? Right now? So wait a minute,

543
00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: you get you get arrested November. Let me let me

544
00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: make Joe Grande happy. It was a long night builded

545
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 1: crazy drug and and and influenced sex with my now

546
00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: wife of fifteen years. Well, now that's an awesome that's

547
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: an awesome ending that we get to look forward to.

548
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:40,280
Speaker 1: And so we're talking, uh, November two thousand, two thousand six,

549
00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: two thousand six, Yeah, that's when you get arrested. Right,

550
00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 1: When was before November fourteen, two thousand and six when

551
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: you got arrested? When was the last time you had slept? Oh?

552
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: My gosh, bro, I mean, dude, I would be up

553
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 1: for four or five days? No, good enough, good enough?

554
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 1: Let me let me let me walk us through as

555
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: best we can with your memory. That's amazingly pretty keen,

556
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,320
Speaker 1: considering all the damage you've done to it with all

557
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: the bro's. But cannabis is but probably as saving you.

558
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: So they tell you it's against you, but in all

559
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:26,360
Speaker 1: actuality to cannabis is medicine, man, and it's done a

560
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 1: lot more for me. Good, I'll tell you right now.

561
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: All right, So it's four or five days before this,

562
00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: and so as it's like November nine or ten, and

563
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,160
Speaker 1: what are you doing. Give us a typical before your

564
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: before you go on some kind of freaking bender where

565
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,560
Speaker 1: you're up for four or five days. What are you

566
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: just waking up from having done that already? Yeah, yeah,

567
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 1: probably twenty four hours, because I would go hard. I'd

568
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 1: wake up. I woke up that morning and I had dope.

569
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,360
Speaker 1: I remember, I had a lot of dope, probably by

570
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: an ounce and a half of meth on me and

571
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,880
Speaker 1: um and I had a bunch of uh norcos you know,

572
00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:19,760
Speaker 1: the payment medication and opiates, you know. And I was like,

573
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:21,640
Speaker 1: we gotta go. We went. We went to at Water.

574
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: I told her, we gotta go to at Water. I

575
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: need to get some tires because we had a tahoe

576
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,640
Speaker 1: which was also stolen, but I bought it from someone

577
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:32,360
Speaker 1: who hadn't paid their payments, right, so we're just on

578
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 1: the run from the from the toe man, not from

579
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: like you know what I mean. They just weren't gonna

580
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: pay the payments. And it's not illegal to drive around

581
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: the car. But once they find it, they take it.

582
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:44,080
Speaker 1: So I gave a guy money. I just told but

583
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: the tires were bad, and I told Ray, I was like, yo,

584
00:33:47,440 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: let's go to Atwater. Go see what's going on? So

585
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: we went to a dope house and at water go

586
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: sell some math and top it up and hang out

587
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: with some people. And I see the El Camino out front.

588
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, that's just clean as funck and uh,

589
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,960
Speaker 1: to be honest, I was looking at the tires. I

590
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:05,959
Speaker 1: was like, well those work on here because they're both like,

591
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,920
Speaker 1: you know, that's like Chevy el Camino. I was like

592
00:34:08,239 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: trying to figure out at the tide because I'm not

593
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:11,480
Speaker 1: a car guy, you know what I mean. I don't

594
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,600
Speaker 1: really know ship like that. So I'm like, I want

595
00:34:13,600 --> 00:34:15,920
Speaker 1: I think I could put those tires on this tahoe.

596
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: And I went inside start talking. I think it's the

597
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,279
Speaker 1: dude's car. It's inside, and I'm like, well, bro, i'll

598
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,240
Speaker 1: give you an eight ball. Let me ride that motherfucker.

599
00:34:25,320 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: Let me drive it for a little bit. Homegirl here

600
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 1: knows me. You know the house where at the dope house,

601
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,880
Speaker 1: I said, homegirl knows me. Man, I'm solid, bro, I'll

602
00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 1: give you my word. Man, I'll be back. And I

603
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: would have been back. I was just gonna take his

604
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: ship and I just give him a reason to something

605
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 1: to happen back. But so we take off, I still

606
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:48,439
Speaker 1: ready to follow. We go to Turlock from mat Water,

607
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: get to Turlock. I went to some people we knew

608
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,319
Speaker 1: to live right off the freeway, guy and a girl,

609
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk to them. They didn't answer. We

610
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 1: sat outside in front of their place for a while.

611
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: I was getting sketchy. I was like, let's go just

612
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,440
Speaker 1: follow me. Follow me in the uh, in the taw

613
00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the El Camino. We're gonna go to

614
00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 1: the Nair. I know some dope fings out there, some

615
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: junkies and dude a mechanic. He'll do the swap for me.

616
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: So we start driving out at Turlock right and we're

617
00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 1: in front of Turlock High School and to the right

618
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: to the left of me, it's good old Johnny law Well,

619
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 1: my boy, one of my brothers from Dead End Locals.

620
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:27,520
Speaker 1: My brother Chip at Rest in Peace had given me

621
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: an all red Indians hat that night because I'm Native,

622
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: and he was always like, yo, this this Indians have, bro.

623
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: You know I want you to have it. It's all

624
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,640
Speaker 1: red and you know that's your people. And I was like, oh, thanks, Bro.

625
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: So I wore that hat that night. That's what the

626
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,319
Speaker 1: cops seened so because they said and later on in

627
00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: the report. Right. So I look at him, he looks

628
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 1: at me, and I'm like, ah, fuck, Desire is right

629
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,680
Speaker 1: behind me. Rage driving behind me. So I start to drive. Well,

630
00:35:54,719 --> 00:35:56,920
Speaker 1: anyone knows turlock. I'm getting close to the cuts and

631
00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:00,279
Speaker 1: the out the out outcuts right, so I'm oh and it.

632
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: All of a sudden, he gets by, he flips a bit,

633
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 1: gets behind. At this point, I got a forty five

634
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 1: on me loaded. I got a suck full of syringes

635
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 1: loaded with meth. I got a pocket full of orcos,

636
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 1: like a hundred and forty of them. I'm on the

637
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 1: road already from parole. I was already on the run,

638
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 1: not from parole. I believe I was on the run

639
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 1: from I was on the run from probation in Orange County,

640
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 1: not parole prison ship, because I got in trouble in

641
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: Orange County earlier on before prison. Remember I told you

642
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 1: this is prison, right, wait wait, wait right, all right,

643
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,759
Speaker 1: let me and let me let me clarifying case your

644
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 1: people are confused because we talked. We were not talking

645
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: about the first time you got arrested. We're talking about

646
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: to jail or the first time you went to jail,

647
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 1: jail or the first time you went to jail. We're

648
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: talking the first time you went to prison. So we

649
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: kind of jumped ahead. You already you've already been to

650
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:56,320
Speaker 1: county jail and you've been on probable that actually I

651
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:58,759
Speaker 1: purposefully did that. I'm glad you brought it up so

652
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 1: we could explain it, make sure every he understands, because

653
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,759
Speaker 1: that's boring. Ship. I don't I don't ideal, I don't

654
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 1: want to talk about your county jail whatever. And this

655
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,799
Speaker 1: is the ship that got you into state prison, So

656
00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:16,880
Speaker 1: go ahead. So I'm like, I I reached down a

657
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: N seven point five. Is is the radio station my

658
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: uncle always listens to, and it's oldies. And I was like,

659
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: he turned his lights on, no sirens, just the lights

660
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 1: are on, And I said, well, here we go, loaded

661
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:35,239
Speaker 1: hold on, hold on, because you have a you have

662
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 1: a split. You know, you have a decision to make.

663
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: Right when those lights right now? Did the thought I'm fucked,

664
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:46,560
Speaker 1: I'm caught, I'm pulling myself over And did that ever

665
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,120
Speaker 1: enter your mind or was it straight to the flight

666
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:58,759
Speaker 1: like I got all where in that moment? Is there

667
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 1: even a thought where you're going? Where? Where? Are you

668
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,520
Speaker 1: gonna go? You're just so I did. I did think

669
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 1: of a couple of things. I knew somebody a couple

670
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 1: of towns over. I figured if I could get to

671
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 1: their place, I could jump the fence and deal with

672
00:38:12,080 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: their pitbull. Um. And while I was driving, because of

673
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: this high speed, I'll get to that. I did a

674
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 1: lot of thinking. Man, this was a crazy I was.

675
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: I was on the run for a good you know

676
00:38:23,719 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: miles and it's like through, you know, nine miles straight away,

677
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:29,440
Speaker 1: turned your way out in the middle of nowhere. It

678
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 1: was raining, I had the lights off, they had the

679
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 1: ghetto birds on me, they had uh regular police sheriff's

680
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 1: highway patrol. But I did. I thought for a second,

681
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: and I thought, honestly, Mark, I said, I'm done. It's over,

682
00:38:43,719 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: and I'll be real, and I'm not saying this in

683
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:49,480
Speaker 1: a glorified way or nothing. I was so lost. I

684
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,880
Speaker 1: was so lost, man, that I was ready to just

685
00:38:53,000 --> 00:39:00,000
Speaker 1: this way. Sorry, I got another freaking ambulance going by. Problem,

686
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: all right, all right, so go ahead. I was. I

687
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: was at that point, bro where I was like, fuck it,

688
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 1: whatever happens happens, and I gunned it and he his

689
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: siren went off group and it was on. And let

690
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,920
Speaker 1: me tell you, man, I had the radio pull blast,

691
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 1: I had begun on my waist. It was such a

692
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 1: long fucking run that I had got on this straight

693
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: away for a minute and it was dark out and

694
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,959
Speaker 1: it's raining and my lights are off, and I said

695
00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 1: bucket and I chucked the gun. Then I chucked syringes

696
00:39:36,239 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 1: because I'm thinking, funk, I can get out and I

697
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: could run. At least this ship ain't near me any

698
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 1: on me. I won't get extra charges that they catch me.

699
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,719
Speaker 1: I could dump this ship and I did, but I

700
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 1: forgot I had Norcos who was still in my pocket.

701
00:39:47,080 --> 00:39:50,239
Speaker 1: And so I'm gone, dude, and I'm literally blowing through

702
00:39:50,360 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 1: There's a coming into dinair. There's a four way intersection,

703
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:57,200
Speaker 1: and there's diesels coming both ways. It's fucking raining and

704
00:39:57,239 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 1: I'm blowing through fucking four way intersections, bro at a

705
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,440
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty miles an hour plus in the rain,

706
00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: and I didn't give a fuck. I was lost. Bro. Oh,

707
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,440
Speaker 1: So so you did they did they recover any of

708
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: that ship you tossed over? No? Okay, So that that

709
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, that's that. That's say you already know

710
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:26,040
Speaker 1: what what that saved you? Um? So, so how did

711
00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: it end? How did it with me crashing into a tree?

712
00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:35,239
Speaker 1: It wasn't your decision? No, No, you crashed locked it up,

713
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 1: and I crashed and and knocked me out. I woke

714
00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 1: up to the dog's barking and then screaming at me

715
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: with the guns and then they dragged me out of

716
00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,760
Speaker 1: the car and beat the ship out of me, dude.

717
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: And I was seizing and seizing, dude. I was convulsive, bro,

718
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: like seasing from the amounts of drugs that were in

719
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:59,000
Speaker 1: my system. Bro. So so okay, you know what I

720
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,840
Speaker 1: want to talk about that now for a second. What's

721
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,960
Speaker 1: what is in your sister? Tell everything? Tell me everything

722
00:41:04,960 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 1: that's it was in your system at that time. Oxies,

723
00:41:09,560 --> 00:41:20,000
Speaker 1: oxy codons, bike, it ins, um, heroin, meth h alcohol,

724
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:27,000
Speaker 1: maybe no ecstasy, stirrup, lean, probably a little bit of lane,

725
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:32,240
Speaker 1: which is coding right. Yeah, I was doing everything. Alcohol

726
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: really wasn't my thing. That was like a last fucking resort. Cannabis. No,

727
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 1: I didn't funk with cannabis. Bro, that's so fucking crazy.

728
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 1: That's that's why that's why I no, No, it's it's

729
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 1: that's amazing. I mean, and that's that's that is Yet

730
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:54,280
Speaker 1: that is just one instance that cannabis wasn't no gateway

731
00:41:54,360 --> 00:41:57,879
Speaker 1: drug for you. You know, hit you taste it all

732
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,080
Speaker 1: coke when you were eleven, So I mean, Jesus, that's

733
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:05,799
Speaker 1: a gateway drug. So all right, so all right, it's hard.

734
00:42:05,840 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: It's it's I know, we I know, we have you

735
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 1: for a limited time because you have a show you're

736
00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: doing tonight. Is it is it a virtual show or

737
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:16,960
Speaker 1: is it what's what kind of just a private family

738
00:42:17,040 --> 00:42:19,920
Speaker 1: thing someone has had has me and uh, we have

739
00:42:19,960 --> 00:42:22,320
Speaker 1: a meeting in this evening. And then they actually hired

740
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,800
Speaker 1: my guitar player to perform. But since he's my guitar

741
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: player and it's friends and family, I'm gonna perform too

742
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,440
Speaker 1: as a surprise. So they don't know the sober junkies

743
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:35,480
Speaker 1: popping into sing a few songs. No, they just think

744
00:42:35,480 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: I'm coming to hang out nice. You're really a wonderful man.

745
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:44,279
Speaker 1: That's that's my business partner with the kick kid man.

746
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: Oh that's and you know what, we got to talk

747
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: about that so you know what I mean, as we

748
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,759
Speaker 1: could go on forever, you know, And actually I think

749
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 1: it's a good time to to kind of break it there,

750
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 1: and we could we could have you back and talk

751
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: and go in detail about your how long in prison

752
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: in and out and stuff? Seven years honestly seven or

753
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: eight years in and out? Yeah? Yes, so and and

754
00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,000
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm sure, I'm sure Joe Blue and

755
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 1: my brother would love to get in on that. So

756
00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: let's say, I know Grande for sure, Oh my god,

757
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 1: I mean, well, he just wants to know if you

758
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: got banged in the ass. You know, don't answer that here,

759
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:28,040
Speaker 1: you know, but I already know what he's gonna say,

760
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:31,120
Speaker 1: you know, but but but nonetheless, the kick Kit. I'm

761
00:43:31,160 --> 00:43:33,640
Speaker 1: glad that you know. I want to talk about that.

762
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: And you know the kick that's k I C K

763
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: K K I T the kick Kit. I'm you said

764
00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:49,800
Speaker 1: those two words to me. I want to say, maybe

765
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:55,800
Speaker 1: the maybe three years ago or so soon after we met,

766
00:43:55,920 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: four years maybe, um, that you had this idea you

767
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:03,239
Speaker 1: wanted to do the kick kid. Tell us what the

768
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,200
Speaker 1: now it seems it's going to be a reality. Tell

769
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:09,759
Speaker 1: us what it is. So when I got clean, I

770
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: used cannabis, that was my thing, and I used the

771
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:17,239
Speaker 1: twelve step recovery and I hid the cannabis thing. And

772
00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: then after having over eight years clean actually, like I said,

773
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 1: about three years ago, I was like, you know what,

774
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: I'm clean. This is working for me. And now the

775
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: the technology, the things we found out that nano, the

776
00:44:29,160 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: you know, the sibling rules, that all this stuff that

777
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: cannabis has now right, and all the things that we've

778
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,680
Speaker 1: been learning about, the CBD, the CBG, you know, Delta A,

779
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: Delta nine like all these things that we have right.

780
00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: So I was like, dude, I want to make a

781
00:44:43,040 --> 00:44:45,520
Speaker 1: kid where people have all the things that they need,

782
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: but they go through a withdrawal. But I can't say

783
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: do this, do that, do this, do that? You know,

784
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 1: we can't do that. But I know I could get

785
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:55,560
Speaker 1: the right stuff and put it together. You know what

786
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying to where it's it's not the miracle thing,

787
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,360
Speaker 1: but it's exactly what you need to it through the

788
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: withdraw and to be able to do it and not

789
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: feel like you're dying. Because Mark, like I told you,

790
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: that was the scariest thing for me. So many times

791
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: I tried to get clean, Bro, but the withdrawal every

792
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: time pulled me back. Bro. I think it's like that

793
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: for a lot of us. Well, let me ask you this.

794
00:45:15,920 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 1: So if I'm if I'm addicted to something and I'm

795
00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: gonna is the Kick Kit for someone who's addicted to

796
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: just heroin or meth? Absolutely? Absolutely, absolutely anything it's an alcohol, ye,

797
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:38,480
Speaker 1: any alcohol. I think anything that's that's that's hurting you, man,

798
00:45:38,560 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: anything that's gonna you know what I'm saying, affecting you

799
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 1: in a negative way. You know, let me ask him

800
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 1: if I'm addicted to that, I'm addicted to meth, and

801
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:50,440
Speaker 1: I said, I want to Kick Kit. I wanna. I

802
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,600
Speaker 1: want to use cannabis to get off this ship. I

803
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 1: want to do what sober Junkie did. When if somebody

804
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: were to get the kick Kid walk through it, what

805
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,680
Speaker 1: would they do? Okay, So I don't want to give

806
00:46:03,719 --> 00:46:07,680
Speaker 1: away too much because we haven't gone all the way. Hey, hey,

807
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,480
Speaker 1: giveaway as much as your attorney would allow you to.

808
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,000
Speaker 1: It's just like zero. So what it is, I'll tell

809
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: you this is what it is. It's gonna walk you

810
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: through it is what it is. It's it's everything that

811
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,359
Speaker 1: you need. You know. When we kick we go through

812
00:46:23,400 --> 00:46:26,839
Speaker 1: a lot of things like the NASA, right, and it's uncontrollable.

813
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:29,960
Speaker 1: You feel so sick. The whole time you're shaking your

814
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: your heart's racing a hundred miles an hour. You've been

815
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 1: beating yourself up. Usually when it's hearin or methods something,

816
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: your serotonin levels are down everything. So it's not just

817
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,759
Speaker 1: cannabis products. There's other holistic things in their envitaments to

818
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,239
Speaker 1: get the serotonin level back up. Just a lot of

819
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: really good stuff man that you know, my attorney would say,

820
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: st f you, but um, it's everything you need, you know,

821
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: it's every it's everything you need, and it's everything I

822
00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,759
Speaker 1: wish I could have had. I had just this small part.

823
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:01,600
Speaker 1: You know, our beautiful medicine are in and and what

824
00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 1: I've been able to do is with having doctors involved

825
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 1: now and other people that are in recovery, because we've

826
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 1: got some heavy hitters in recovery that are in twelve

827
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 1: step program helping us and working with us bro And

828
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 1: that's unheard of because everybody's like, oh, cannabis not not

829
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,719
Speaker 1: no more, dude, not when you've got guys like me

830
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: going on nine years clean April twenty baby. So so

831
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 1: so something like the universally known a a alcoholics anonymous, right,

832
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:36,640
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's that's probably where the twelve Step

833
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:42,520
Speaker 1: pro program became very famous from and and very hardcore

834
00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:45,880
Speaker 1: believers in that. I think that you know that, and

835
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: you shouldn't do Canada, you shouldn't do anything, you know,

836
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,399
Speaker 1: like complete abstinence. But I think as you've said, more

837
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:56,799
Speaker 1: and more people are realizing that you know, this is

838
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: this is a medicine that can happen now. So so

839
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,759
Speaker 1: to help bring a dream of yours to fruition, Who

840
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,520
Speaker 1: have you hooked up with? What entity? How are you

841
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 1: getting this kick kit done? Yes? So I'm working with

842
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 1: Joe Reid and UM that's California Care Group. Um, they

843
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 1: also are Nevata Care Group and they're connected with World

844
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: Dignity CBD and UM, Joe and I got together and

845
00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 1: I told him when I needed to make this happen,

846
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:28,640
Speaker 1: and very this is the thing I've noticed, man, And

847
00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: you said it to me. You said, when it's right,

848
00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: it's gonna be boom boom, boom boom, it's not gonna be.

849
00:48:35,280 --> 00:48:40,520
Speaker 1: And that's what it's been. And even things that you know, uh,

850
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:42,720
Speaker 1: and I didn't think of, he thought of and brought

851
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,399
Speaker 1: it to my attention, and you know it was, Hey,

852
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: we got the website already. You know. It wasn't Hey,

853
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: I was thinking we should get the website. It was Hey,

854
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 1: just so you know, we got the website. It's in

855
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: your name, it's mine done. Um, It's it's you find

856
00:48:56,160 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 1: the people that that believe in what you're doing. And

857
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,840
Speaker 1: here's another thing, like he's got a connection to recovery

858
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:04,240
Speaker 1: as well, and that's a big part of it because

859
00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:09,839
Speaker 1: then you you understand me differently. And I'm just excited, man.

860
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:11,600
Speaker 1: The people that are involved right now are gonna make

861
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:13,920
Speaker 1: this seeing go next level and we're gonna be serving

862
00:49:13,960 --> 00:49:17,640
Speaker 1: a lot of life. Mark. I'm excited for you, my friend,

863
00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: and I know you did you and I, as you know,

864
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,800
Speaker 1: I've been right there with it as uh with a

865
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 1: brother as your legal counsel, as you've had many many

866
00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 1: companies and people approach you for this with this idea

867
00:49:34,040 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 1: that you had and uh, you know, as you said,

868
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 1: you know, you you know, you know, as they told you.

869
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 1: When it's ried it right, you know happen not a

870
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: lot of talk and a lot of cross talks. So

871
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: I'm glad that we could be involved and help you

872
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 1: you reach to reach your goals. And I'm glad to

873
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,080
Speaker 1: see it happening. And when we come back, we are

874
00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:54,279
Speaker 1: going to close out with the Cannabis Talk one on

875
00:49:54,400 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 1: one High five with the Sober junk Yeah will be

876
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: and we'll be right back after this break. What time

877
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,879
Speaker 1: is it? Dime time Think Higher with Diame Industries. Find

878
00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: them in California, Arizona and Oklahoma. Check out the website

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Speaker 1: Diame industry dot com or on i G Dime dot Industries.

880
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: Welcome back to Cannabis Talk one oh one, Mark and

881
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:27,560
Speaker 1: Craig the popular is that love Blue and Joe Grande

882
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: and we want to thank Pit Peanut, Jen Elvis for

883
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,839
Speaker 1: really really putting this show together and making it all

884
00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,439
Speaker 1: happy for if you guys are the best. We wish

885
00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 1: you the best and love you now. It's what do

886
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 1: you say as you interrupted? Love you? And Sober Junkie

887
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:52,960
Speaker 1: loves you to love Elvis broken and you can interrupt

888
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 1: me anytime, baby, And you know Elvis is in He's

889
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:59,479
Speaker 1: in Vegas right now. Elvis lives in Vegas. Scott, damn

890
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,160
Speaker 1: we to go. Elvis. He moved. He's got a new

891
00:51:02,239 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: job into help. So all right, you gotta cook up

892
00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,279
Speaker 1: with Elvius in Vegas. That'll be I gotta come to

893
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:11,239
Speaker 1: Vegas as soon as things open up Vegas, Vegas. I mean,

894
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 1: I haven't been back to Vegas. My brothers uh well

895
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 1: he was there. He was there just before they closed

896
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:23,240
Speaker 1: and so but and I know people are going back

897
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: and gambling is open, but I just have no interest

898
00:51:27,920 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: in going to Vegas just to gamble. I never did, right,

899
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,160
Speaker 1: I want to. I like to go to the events

900
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:36,440
Speaker 1: and the parties, hang out and do all that stuff.

901
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:39,640
Speaker 1: But anyways, let's to get to the favorite part of

902
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:41,520
Speaker 1: my of the show that I like, The Hannibus Talk

903
00:51:41,560 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: one on one High five with the sober Junkie. Alright,

904
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: sober junkie. Question number one of the Cannabis Talk one

905
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,640
Speaker 1: on one High five. How old were you the first

906
00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: time you smoked? And where did you get it from?

907
00:51:56,480 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: I was we just talked about at twelve Andy Garcia's

908
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: sister Santy twelve and you got it from Andy Garcia's

909
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:12,120
Speaker 1: sisters son. Is that what you said? Her name is Santy?

910
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: Santy was her name? And where were you? On a

911
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:19,120
Speaker 1: canal bank in Los Banos, California? There you go, all right,

912
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: that's a that's a good one. Man. What is your

913
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 1: favorite way hold on how old were you? Remember? Twelve? Twelve?

914
00:52:27,320 --> 00:52:29,880
Speaker 1: So that's right, so so, but you were actually what

915
00:52:30,040 --> 00:52:32,879
Speaker 1: is a ten or eleven when you tasted the coke? Yeah,

916
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: I was like tam dude tasted coke first, So alright.

917
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:39,040
Speaker 1: Question number two was the first man, Yes, I thank you,

918
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:42,520
Speaker 1: I remember that. Question number two? What is your favorite

919
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 1: way to use cannabis? Smoking and joint? Man? Love it? Alright?

920
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 1: Question number three of the Cannabis Talk one on one

921
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:58,480
Speaker 1: High five with the sober junkie singer songwriter after artists,

922
00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: just a great guy overall. What's the craziest place you

923
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:07,680
Speaker 1: ever used cannabis or smoked it? Oh? My goodness, and

924
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: you must have. I can only imagine. I don't I

925
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,440
Speaker 1: don't even know what you're It might be an unfair question,

926
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:17,800
Speaker 1: but you gotta pick one. You gotta pick one. Actually,

927
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 1: on the me walk on the Mewalk res I was

928
00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:24,799
Speaker 1: with chicken and say that again, you skip beat for me?

929
00:53:24,840 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: Say that again? Okay? So I was on the Mewalk

930
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:33,839
Speaker 1: Reservation in Northern California with my cousin chickens, smoking on

931
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 1: the top of a hillside next to a giant sasquatch

932
00:53:37,320 --> 00:53:42,440
Speaker 1: looking over all the hills of northern California. Wow, sounds

933
00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:47,000
Speaker 1: trying to go up there like we four wheel up there. Sick. Alright, bro,

934
00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: that's a good one. Question number four of the Cannabis

935
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,560
Speaker 1: Talk one on one high five, what is your go

936
00:53:54,719 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 1: to munchies after you get high? It's not really a

937
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,400
Speaker 1: munch key thing, man. I'm not a really a munchy

938
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:09,920
Speaker 1: guy man. So um, but I'll tell you what my

939
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:15,400
Speaker 1: favorite munchy is. Well, if that's what we get. Who laughed?

940
00:54:15,400 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 1: Who's sitting over there? He's laughing over there? Who Mallory?

941
00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: My daughter, Mallory? What are you laughing about? Mallory? Get

942
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 1: in here, get over here. If you can't if you

943
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 1: can't be if you can't be, if you can't be

944
00:54:28,360 --> 00:54:30,200
Speaker 1: quiet during a production where I want to see you.

945
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:32,799
Speaker 1: I want to see your face. You gotta want We

946
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: want to we want to meet you. We want to

947
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: see you. She camera shot. You said you didn't say hi. Yeah,

948
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:42,200
Speaker 1: you didn't say hi, Uncle Mark. She can't hear you.

949
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:48,440
Speaker 1: It's okay, all right, we'll get it next time you

950
00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:51,719
Speaker 1: said hi. Okay. I know she's a beautiful girl. You

951
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: got lovely, lovely kids. This man is a father, a

952
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:58,600
Speaker 1: wonderful father. Now tell us what that munch he is.

953
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: I'm I'm really feeling banana chips, dude, Okay, and toffee peanuts.

954
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:09,320
Speaker 1: Banana chips have a lot of cars. Banana chips have

955
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:14,480
Speaker 1: a lot of carbs. Careful, yeah, careful with the carbs, alright.

956
00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:17,719
Speaker 1: Question number five of the cannabis, talking one on one

957
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:21,359
Speaker 1: high five with the sober junkie. If you could smoke

958
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:25,719
Speaker 1: cannabis with anyone dead or alive, who would it be?

959
00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 1: Bob Marley? Bob Marley? Why is that my friend? Why?

960
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:36,520
Speaker 1: Because he visits me in my dreams and I feel

961
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,800
Speaker 1: he he was a prophet, you know, to the people.

962
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:45,280
Speaker 1: I feel he was like a gift and his music

963
00:55:46,000 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 1: resonates in my soul. And to be able to smoke

964
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:53,960
Speaker 1: with him with just I don't know, man, it would be, uh,

965
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: it would be. It's not just getting stoned, you know.

966
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 1: I think magic would happen. We didn't write any song together,

967
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,839
Speaker 1: thank you know? All right? I love that. I love

968
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:07,359
Speaker 1: that answer. I love I love that answer. All right.

969
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 1: Before we get out of here, you know, we we

970
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: we spent so much time talking about you, more or less,

971
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,880
Speaker 1: we didn't get into your actual music. And songs and

972
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: sounds and means. We we need, we need a couple

973
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:23,320
Speaker 1: of days with you. But just tell everybody in terms

974
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:27,560
Speaker 1: of music, what are like the three songs? If they're

975
00:56:27,560 --> 00:56:30,160
Speaker 1: gonna go google for people who hadn't heard of you before,

976
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,399
Speaker 1: who's the sober junkie? What's this stuff all about? Three

977
00:56:33,400 --> 00:56:36,080
Speaker 1: of your songs? Give us your your top three songs

978
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,279
Speaker 1: for you that you'd want people to google and go

979
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:43,239
Speaker 1: listen to or watch the videos? People remix, take Me

980
00:56:43,320 --> 00:56:50,960
Speaker 1: Away and um the latest song which is important and

981
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 1: it's and it's me and di Look, actually it's our

982
00:56:53,320 --> 00:56:57,520
Speaker 1: song for St Dog Rescued Peace do look from the

983
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:04,560
Speaker 1: Common mount Kings. Yes, this my bros. That's great. No, yes,

984
00:57:04,600 --> 00:57:07,120
Speaker 1: I know, that's that's all. Legend never Die, Legends Never

985
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:10,960
Speaker 1: dies the song, so we got Legends Never Die? What

986
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: were the other two? Take Me Away? And people remix

987
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,320
Speaker 1: and people remix and geez, I know something, I know

988
00:57:19,360 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 1: a little something about those first two songs? You know

989
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: about them all? I think you might. I think you might.

990
00:57:27,120 --> 00:57:29,600
Speaker 1: You have a remix, don't you. Well, if if you

991
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: listen close enough, you might hear my voice in the

992
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: background somewhere. I don't know, Yes you will, Yes you do.

993
00:57:37,480 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: I love your brother. Tell everybody where they can tell

994
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:44,439
Speaker 1: everybody where they can find you. Sober Junkie Official dot

995
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:49,760
Speaker 1: com and uh just Sober Junkie Official on Instagram at

996
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:53,360
Speaker 1: the Sober Junkie Official. My I G is to everything

997
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:55,240
Speaker 1: and my I G s got my website on it.

998
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 1: Everything I'm doing. I stay on Instagram every day, so

999
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,919
Speaker 1: it's best space to tapping in me. I'm saying good

1000
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:04,080
Speaker 1: morning to see I'm saying good I do you. I

1001
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: really tapped him with the people because I can. You know,

1002
00:58:08,200 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: yes you do, and I know he does. It's been

1003
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,360
Speaker 1: a pleasure having you on the show right now, and

1004
00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:16,960
Speaker 1: we're gonna get you on again to wrap up well,

1005
00:58:16,960 --> 00:58:18,120
Speaker 1: I don't know, we're gonna have to have you a

1006
00:58:18,200 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: couple of times. Joe is gonna need to get your

1007
00:58:20,120 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 1: get you for the prison stuff. I know he's gonna

1008
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: have it all. Uh And I mean that in all

1009
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:29,560
Speaker 1: sorts of ways. But hey, it's Cannabis Talk one on one,

1010
00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:34,080
Speaker 1: and remember this, if no one else loves you, we do.

1011
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: Thank you for listening to Cannabis Talk one oh one

1012
00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:40,240
Speaker 1: on the I Heart Radio app Apple Podcast or wherever

1013
00:58:40,360 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 1: you get your podcasts,