1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: On a stormy night on the small island of Guernsey, 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: a young paranormal expert joins a skeptical history teacher to 3 00:00:07,840 --> 00:00:11,000 Speaker 1: record the first in a series of podcasts based on 4 00:00:11,039 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: the island's incredible folklore and paranormal history. As the expert 5 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:20,239 Speaker 1: regales his horrifying stories, the teacher learns that we all 6 00:00:20,320 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: have our own truth, our own story ghosts that haunt us. 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:30,560 Speaker 1: Starring Olivier nominated actor and former Blue Peter legend Peter Duncan, 8 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: When Darkness Falls is a spine chilling ghost story that 9 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:38,919 Speaker 1: delivers a twisted, terrifying and thrilling tale that the Guardian 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,199 Speaker 1: said will leave you cowering in your seat. Catch the 11 00:00:42,240 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: brand new UK tour of When Darkness Falls from September 12 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: fifteenth in a town near you. Select nights will also 13 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: feature myself delivering a live episode of Unexplained. For more 14 00:00:54,640 --> 00:00:58,880 Speaker 1: details or to book tickets, visit When Darkness Falls dot 15 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:15,479 Speaker 1: co dot uk. If you dare welcome to Unexplained Extra 16 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 1: with me Richard McClane Smith where for the weeks in 17 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: between episodes, we look at stories and ideas that, for 18 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: one reason or other, didn't make it into the previous show. 19 00:01:25,880 --> 00:01:29,600 Speaker 1: In last week's episode This Woman's Work, we heard the 20 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: story of the Cheltenham ghost, of female apparition dressed in 21 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,920 Speaker 1: morning clothes that is said to haunt a property formerly 22 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: known as Garden Reach in Cheltenham, in the southwest of England. 23 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 1: It is thought that this woman in Black may have 24 00:01:45,720 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: inspired Susan Hill's own Woman in Black from her nineteen 25 00:01:49,320 --> 00:01:52,320 Speaker 1: eighty three novel of that name, and it's easy to 26 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: see why. Much like hills terrifying antagonist, the supposed Cheltenham 27 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: ghost is similarly believed by some to be stuck forever 28 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: mourning the death of her child, with some believing it 29 00:02:06,560 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: might be the ghost of former resident Elizabeth Swinhoe, the 30 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 1: wife of Henry Swinhoe, who died in the property while 31 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: giving birth to her stillborn son. Others, however, have suggested 32 00:02:20,080 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: it might be the ghost of Henry's troubled second wife, Imogen. 33 00:02:25,160 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 1: Despite a bitter and acrimonious separation from Henry and moving 34 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: back to Bristol, where she later died, Imogen's body was 35 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: brought to Cheltenham to be buried near the home she 36 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: shared with her former husband. Reason enough, you'd imagine for 37 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: any ghost to feel a little restless. It's a common 38 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:49,919 Speaker 1: feature of ghost stories that the supposed ghosts seemed somehow 39 00:02:49,960 --> 00:02:54,680 Speaker 1: tied to one particular location, remaining stuck there through time 40 00:02:55,040 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: as the living come and go around them. All well 41 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: and good, you might say, if that place is a 42 00:03:01,639 --> 00:03:06,360 Speaker 1: ruined castle, for example, not so simple as the desparred 43 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:10,240 Speaker 1: family from last week's episode discovered if a supposed ghost 44 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 1: found itself attached to a residential property on Unexplained. We've 45 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,320 Speaker 1: covered many a haunted house story. However, few have been 46 00:03:20,360 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 1: as terrifying as the subject of this week's extra. It 47 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: had just gone one thirty a m. One early morning 48 00:03:34,639 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: in August nineteen forty two when the call came in 49 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,680 Speaker 1: to her wise Honolulu Police Department down on Bethel and 50 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:46,640 Speaker 1: Merchant Street. It was hard to make out what the 51 00:03:46,720 --> 00:03:50,880 Speaker 1: caller was saying exactly, as she screamed hysterically that some 52 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,640 Speaker 1: one was trying to kill her children at her home 53 00:03:53,760 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: in Kaimuki, a quiet residential neighborhood in the east of 54 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: the city. Two officers, Moseley Cummins and Robert AND's Death 55 00:04:04,000 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 1: were dispatched immediately to investigate what they found at the 56 00:04:08,360 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: caller's home. Has been the subject of much conjecture ever since. 57 00:04:14,400 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: In some reports, the officers arrived to find the woman's 58 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: ten year old son and her two daughters eighteen and twenty, 59 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:27,120 Speaker 1: being seemingly strangled and thrown across the room by an 60 00:04:27,160 --> 00:04:32,320 Speaker 1: invisible force or the while the mother frantically circled the room, 61 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 1: shrieking at whatever it was to leave them alone, as 62 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: she waved tea leaves and sprinkled Harwiian salt all around them. 63 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:45,359 Speaker 1: Salt and tea leaves are traditionally used by practitioners of 64 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 1: Hawaiian magic, known as cahuna to ward off malevolent spirits. 65 00:04:51,560 --> 00:04:54,680 Speaker 1: After struggling with the apparent entity for over an hour 66 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:58,279 Speaker 1: and a half, the police eventually managed to pull the 67 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: family out of the property and escorted them to her relatives, 68 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: where they stayed for the rest of the night. As 69 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:09,440 Speaker 1: the woman later explained, it had all started about ten 70 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 1: p m. When her son had apparently detected an unusual 71 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 1: atmosphere in the air and began screaming that a spirit 72 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 1: was beginning to materialize in their property. Thirty years after 73 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:33,039 Speaker 1: the terrifying events of nineteen forty two, in the evening 74 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: of October thirty first, nineteen seventy two, another bizarre car 75 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:43,839 Speaker 1: apparently came into the Honolulu Police Department, once again involving 76 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: strange and terrifying happenings at a house in Kaimuki. This time, 77 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: three young women who had been renting a house together 78 00:05:53,360 --> 00:05:57,159 Speaker 1: for a few weeks reported hearing an intruder in their home, 79 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: moving about, making peculiar noises and talking out loud to them, 80 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: only they couldn't see who it was. When an officer 81 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: arrived at the house, he found the terrified women waiting 82 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:15,320 Speaker 1: for him outside the property. Too afraid to go back inside. 83 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: Without explaining any more, the women begged the officer to 84 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: drive with them back to one of their mother's homes, 85 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 1: where they were planning to spend the rest of the night. 86 00:06:27,839 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: After agreeing to escort them, the officer waited until the 87 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:35,440 Speaker 1: women got into their truck and drove off, before following 88 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: them close behind. As they drove out onto Wiley Avenue, 89 00:06:41,040 --> 00:06:45,839 Speaker 1: the officer watched with confusion as the truck suddenly darted 90 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: into the Oasis Cafe parking lot just beyond the intersection 91 00:06:50,120 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 1: with Harding Avenue. While inside it, the women appeared to 92 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 1: be fighting with each other in the front seat. The 93 00:06:58,279 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: officer parked up and jumped out of his vehicle, only 94 00:07:02,400 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: to then realize it was only one of the women 95 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 1: who appeared to be fighting off something while her two 96 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: friends were trying to help. Not quite knowing what to do, 97 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: the officer reached into the truck to try and help 98 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,480 Speaker 1: two only to suddenly feel a strong, calloused hand rapids 99 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:27,440 Speaker 1: fingers around his arm and twist it up behind his back. Terrified, 100 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 1: the officer ran to his car to radio for help. 101 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,240 Speaker 1: Things had calmed down somewhat when the backup officer arrived 102 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 1: at the scene to find his colleague as white as 103 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 1: a sheet, claiming that he had just been attacked by 104 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 1: some kind of invisible entity inside the women's truck. The 105 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: woman who seemed to be at the center of the 106 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:53,480 Speaker 1: attacks was then invited to ride with the officers while 107 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 1: her two friends continued on their way to the relatives home. However, 108 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 1: as soon as she got in to the patrol car, 109 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: the engine suddenly switched itself off. No matter how many 110 00:08:06,520 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: times they tried to restart it, a just wouldn't catch. 111 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: With no other options, the woman returned to her friend's truck, and, 112 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:20,120 Speaker 1: once again with the police following close behind, they attempted 113 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:23,960 Speaker 1: to drive off. The two officers could only watch on 114 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:28,239 Speaker 1: in horror as moments later, the truck's front door flew open, 115 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 1: and the embattled woman rolled out into the middle of 116 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,480 Speaker 1: the road, clawing at her throat as though someone were 117 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: trying to strangle her. As one of the officers tried 118 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 1: to free her from whatever had her in its grip, 119 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: the other dashed into the oasis cafe and returned moments 120 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 1: later holding some salt and water. The officer threw them 121 00:08:51,600 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: over the woman, and moments later she was freed. It 122 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: isn't known for sure whether the two Kaimuki based stories 123 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 1: originated from but many familiar with the region and its 124 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: history are in no doubt that both of them concern 125 00:09:14,280 --> 00:09:18,600 Speaker 1: the exact same house, a property that once stood at 126 00:09:18,600 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: the corner of eighth and Harding Avenue, although some belief 127 00:09:23,480 --> 00:09:26,960 Speaker 1: the property was actually located on the left of second 128 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 1: and Harding Avenue. Either way, it is said that not 129 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:34,840 Speaker 1: long after it was first built, the father of the 130 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: family who lived there went to berserk and killed his 131 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 1: wife and children before burying them in the back yard. 132 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: Another story has it that it was actually the mother 133 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:49,200 Speaker 1: in law of the woman whose children were allegedly attacked 134 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:53,120 Speaker 1: there in nineteen forty two, who was buried there, and 135 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: it is her ghost that so maliciously attacked its residence. 136 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,559 Speaker 1: With the neighborhood being made up largely of immigrants from Japan, 137 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:06,679 Speaker 1: it wasn't long before the term yokai was being used 138 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 1: in connection with the property, a catch all term for 139 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: all manner of monsters and other supernatural entities from Japanese folklore, 140 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: and the yokai most often associated with it was the cashier, 141 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: an especially feared demonic creature that appears in the shape 142 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 1: of a cat walking on two legs. The coming of 143 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:33,520 Speaker 1: rain or stormy weather is said to herald the imminent 144 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:37,800 Speaker 1: arrival of a cashier, which would then appear covered in flames, 145 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:43,239 Speaker 1: having arrived straight from Hell. The casha were most interested 146 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: in the bodies of the dead, which they are tasked 147 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,920 Speaker 1: with taking back to Hell. If the deceased was considered 148 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 1: to have lived a sinful life. Other times, rather than 149 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: take them all the way back to Hell, the cashier 150 00:10:57,679 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: might simply eat the corpse, and according to law, anyone 151 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 1: trying to stop them might themselves be eaten or ripped 152 00:11:06,559 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: to pieces for their troubles. In some parts of Japan, 153 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 1: belief in the cashier is so strong, but mourners have 154 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: even been known to carry out two separate funerals for 155 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,160 Speaker 1: their loved ones. The first funeral would actually be a 156 00:11:22,200 --> 00:11:26,080 Speaker 1: decoy involving a coffin full of rocks in an effort 157 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 1: to distract any cashier that might have designs on the deceased, 158 00:11:30,840 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: while a second proper funeral was hurriedly carried out elsewhere. 159 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: At some point, the much feared property in Kaimuki, which 160 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 1: became known locally as the Cashier House, is said to 161 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 1: being pulled down to make room for a freeway. Others, however, 162 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: such as writer Keith Man, are convinced that although the 163 00:11:58,880 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 1: original house was knocked down, it was replaced by a 164 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: bland looking duplex built on exactly the same spot where 165 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:11,120 Speaker 1: he himself lived for a short time around twenty sixteen. 166 00:12:13,040 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: Man claims that he and his flatmates moved into the 167 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 1: apartment despite multiple warnings from their neighbors, who said that 168 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:23,319 Speaker 1: no one had lasted more than three months in the 169 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 1: property before having to vacate it. But since the new 170 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,520 Speaker 1: duplex was so cheap and not being the kind of 171 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: people to worry about, paranormal superstitions. Man and his friends 172 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 1: chose to ignore the warnings. All was well for the 173 00:12:39,720 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 1: first few weeks, until one day, in the early hours 174 00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 1: of the morning, Keith shot up suddenly in his bed 175 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: with an undeniable urge to run as his heart thumped 176 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:57,080 Speaker 1: in his chest for no apparent reason. He quickly noticed 177 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: the air around him was freezing cold enough to see 178 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:07,079 Speaker 1: his breath, when ordinarily the temperature rarely dropped below sixty five. 179 00:13:08,760 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: His chest also felt oddly cold, as if he were 180 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: freezing up from the inside. Just then, all the smoke 181 00:13:17,320 --> 00:13:20,320 Speaker 1: alarms in the house beeped out at the same time, 182 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 1: despite not being connected in any way. Convinced that some 183 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: one was watching him from out at the corner of 184 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: the room, Keith leaped from his bed and sprinted into 185 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 1: the living room, where he immediately felt safer. Staring back 186 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 1: into the darkness of his room through the gap in 187 00:13:40,679 --> 00:13:45,199 Speaker 1: the door, he had the overwhelming sense that something horrifying 188 00:13:45,280 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: and sinister was lurking there. Though Keith eventually calmed down 189 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: and went back to bed, he claimed this event was 190 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:59,359 Speaker 1: repeated throughout his time at the property, always occurring precisely 191 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: at the time of four thirty three am. 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