WEBVTT - “I AM KIND OF BEING STALKED”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hey, what's up?

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<v Speaker 2>Is this Aiden?

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<v Speaker 3>This is Aid? Is this Lyle going on?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Man, this is this is Lyle. How's it going dude?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, well not too bad. I actually, uh, I've

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<v Speaker 3>met you twice in uh uh Saint Louis at your

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<v Speaker 3>live show.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh fucking cool? Fuck yeah fuck yeah, dude, Saint Louis

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<v Speaker 2>is always a great time.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know it was a good time.

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<v Speaker 4>I was.

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<v Speaker 3>You might remember me. I was, uh, the bald dude

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<v Speaker 3>with the big red beard.

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<v Speaker 2>I really, do you know what? Here's the thing, here's

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<v Speaker 2>the thing. I here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna say this. I don't remember anybody's.

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<v Speaker 2>Name, and uh I I but like, if you, if

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<v Speaker 2>you tell me something, if like we talked about something,

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<v Speaker 2>I'll remember that. Do you remember what we taught what

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<v Speaker 2>we talked about?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, the first time I made a joke about how

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<v Speaker 3>you're taller in person, okay, because I thought you were

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<v Speaker 3>a little shorter in person, to be honest, it didn't

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<v Speaker 3>really land. So then the second time I came back

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<v Speaker 3>and I was like, hey, remember that joke. I told

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<v Speaker 3>you it wasn't really that funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, Aiden, I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go ahead and wipe those other two times from

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<v Speaker 2>from uh from my memory, although I guess I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>remember them in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>But it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 2>Here.

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<v Speaker 1>We are on the phone together right now. What's up, man?

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<v Speaker 2>How you doing? How's life?

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<v Speaker 1>We're on the phone, We're chatting, We're chatting. What'd you

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about?

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<v Speaker 4>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh, you know I texted in these pasts like forty

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<v Speaker 3>eight out. Well, I guess since like Thursday has been

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<v Speaker 3>pretty pretty strange, I kind of got like a stalker.

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<v Speaker 3>Have you Have you watched Baby Reindeer on Netflix?

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<v Speaker 2>I have not, but I've heard about it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's I'm like kind of getting Baby reindeered right now.

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<v Speaker 3>It's sort of chilled out over the past twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 3>But like it was, it was weird. So so what.

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<v Speaker 4>Happened was this?

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<v Speaker 3>Uh So, let me give you a little backstory. There

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<v Speaker 3>was this girl that I knew in I knew her

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<v Speaker 3>since like high school and I'm twenty four now, but

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<v Speaker 3>I knew her in like high school. She was a

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<v Speaker 3>great above me and we were kind of friends, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>sort of you know gen'erally, I know, he told her

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<v Speaker 3>that well, but you know, we would talk every once

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<v Speaker 3>in a while, and then after high school we sort

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<v Speaker 3>of stopped talking. And then she hits me up on

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<v Speaker 3>like Snapchat, and this is a you know, like twenty

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<v Speaker 3>twenty one at this point. I graduated twenty eighteen, so

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<v Speaker 3>this is twenty twenty one, a few years later. And

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<v Speaker 3>we talked a little periodically between you know, high school

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<v Speaker 3>and then uh, and you know, she invites me out

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<v Speaker 3>to this bar and I'm like, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>chery I'll go out you know with her and like

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<v Speaker 3>her roommates and stuff, and then you know, one thing

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<v Speaker 3>said actually end up hooking up. We were sort of

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<v Speaker 3>like friends with benefits for a couple of weeks. Then

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<v Speaker 3>it ended pretty mutually.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>She was like, hey, I'm kind of catching feelings. We

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<v Speaker 3>should probably stop sleeping together. And I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that's cool, being totally respectful of that and

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<v Speaker 3>all that. And then she gets with this other guy

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<v Speaker 3>and she blocks me on everything, which is I figured

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<v Speaker 3>it was whatever, you know, this she's she's making a

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<v Speaker 3>statement here, She's making like a commitment to this guy.

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<v Speaker 3>She's like cutting off all her other past situationships or whatever.

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<v Speaker 3>Does that make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So so I you know, I don't hear for her

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<v Speaker 3>from her for like three years. Like I said, this

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<v Speaker 3>was twenty twenty one, and then this past Thursday. This

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<v Speaker 3>is where it gets weird. So so let me give

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<v Speaker 3>you another old piece of backstory. So I was in

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<v Speaker 3>this band. We were moderately popular. I won't say any

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<v Speaker 3>specific names because I don't want people looking in any

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<v Speaker 3>of this, but you know, we were moderately popular. Uh,

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<v Speaker 3>and she was a big fan of it. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 3>this past Thursday, my old bassist from that band, that

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<v Speaker 3>band recently broke up, but my bassist, you know, he's

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<v Speaker 3>he texted me. He's like, hey, you know, what's what's

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<v Speaker 3>going on with this poem and everything. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know what you're talking about. And then he

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<v Speaker 3>says her name, you know, her poem, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm figure. I'm like, yeah, I have no idea what

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<v Speaker 3>you're talking about. And then he sends me to this

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<v Speaker 3>reddit thread was a Reddit account, and it's just like

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<v Speaker 3>hundreds well there's like this poem and then like hundreds

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<v Speaker 3>of other posts by this person, the girl that i'd

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<v Speaker 3>you know, not spoken to in three years, and it's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, a bunch of poems about like it starts

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<v Speaker 3>out it references the band breaking up, because, like I said,

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<v Speaker 3>she was a big fan of the band, and she

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<v Speaker 3>talks about how she's how all the songs are about her,

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<v Speaker 3>and how like she's she said a lot of things

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<v Speaker 3>about like that are kind of obsessive about me in it.

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<v Speaker 3>And it starts out like that, and it doesn't start

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<v Speaker 3>out like super negative. At first. It's a little weird,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's not like quite negative. And then it escalates,

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<v Speaker 3>like you can see, like there's tons of posts. So

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<v Speaker 3>she started posting like a week ago, but I didn't

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<v Speaker 3>find out about it till Thursday. So I'm seeing all

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<v Speaker 3>of these posts after like a week of just these

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<v Speaker 3>like rapid fire obsessing like posting and everything, and she's

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<v Speaker 3>saying that, you know, like I said, it starts out

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<v Speaker 3>with her like being super like obsessive, but then it

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<v Speaker 3>goes into like, you know, saying that I've been like

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<v Speaker 3>making a bunch of fake accounts to try to like

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<v Speaker 3>hunt her down. She has a really explicit like story

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<v Speaker 3>about how I like physically like lured her out and

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<v Speaker 3>tried to kill her, and again I haven't spoken to

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<v Speaker 3>this woman in three years, and it's just a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of weird stuff. Sorry, I'm kind of rambling right.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, but no, no, no, no, no, no, uh, I can't

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<v Speaker 2>keep going.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so she says, she says that, you know, I

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<v Speaker 3>have tried to kill her like others she's posting. Everything

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<v Speaker 3>she's posting is like it's like all poems, right, Like

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<v Speaker 3>there's there's some things here and there that are like

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<v Speaker 3>prose I think is the word for not poetry. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know, but she there's some stuff that she's supposed to,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, not poetry, just regular like talking, but a

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<v Speaker 3>majority of them are like poems and they're kind of

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<v Speaker 3>about me, but they're kind of just rambling. And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, I find out it all on this Thursday,

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<v Speaker 3>and I like leave works on them. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I had to get home and kind of

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<v Speaker 3>analyze the situation. But as I'm going through it, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>seeing she's saying that, you know, I'm trying to hunt

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<v Speaker 3>her down, and she's like I'm getting different people calling

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<v Speaker 3>a text to me being like, yo, what's along with this?

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<v Speaker 3>Because she's like reaching out to everybody I know and

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<v Speaker 3>like she didn't. Well, she did message me directly, but

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<v Speaker 3>I had like deleted Instagram from my phone for a

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<v Speaker 3>little while ago, so I didn't see it. But she's like,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, texting and messaging all these people saying that

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I've been killing people and that I I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's just been like get ramping up and up, and

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<v Speaker 3>you know, at this point, I'm like, Okay, she's having

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<v Speaker 3>some sort of episode, right, you know, some sort of

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<v Speaker 3>like I don't know, some mental illness. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know what she had. I still don't know

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<v Speaker 3>what she has. So you know, I'm not like necessarily

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<v Speaker 3>like angry at her or anything, because I know she's

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<v Speaker 3>like sick in the head. But it was it's been

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<v Speaker 3>a very weird past twenty four hours or past like

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<v Speaker 3>forty eight hours for me, as you might suspect, because

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<v Speaker 3>like I said, there's tons of people are calling and

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<v Speaker 3>texting me be like yo, uh, this person saying that

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<v Speaker 3>you're killing people. Obviously don't none of them believe it,

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<v Speaker 3>But yeah, it's been weird.

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<v Speaker 1>You ever wanted you ever want you ever wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>kill anyone?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh?

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<v Speaker 3>Not too much. I mean, you know, she she has

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<v Speaker 3>been you know, saying that, uh, I'm like a serial killer.

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<v Speaker 3>It's also funny too. She she kind of said that

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<v Speaker 3>my that that I've been holding my brother hostage, and uh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it all kind of was going back to

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<v Speaker 3>the I think the fact that the band vocal was

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<v Speaker 3>kind of like a catalyst for it, because like, like

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<v Speaker 3>you like.

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<v Speaker 2>You think that the band breaking up sent her into

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<v Speaker 2>a spiral or something like that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, because we made the post. We made like a

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<v Speaker 3>post being like.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, the band is Let me ask me, I'm curious,

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<v Speaker 2>do you do you think do you think that she

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<v Speaker 2>is having an episode or like is she like fucking

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<v Speaker 2>with you?

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<v Speaker 3>No, No, She's definitely having like some sort of episode.

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<v Speaker 3>Like at first I didn't know like if that was

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<v Speaker 3>the case, but at this point, I'm pretty certain that's

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<v Speaker 3>what's happening.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, and when's the last Like, well, I get I

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<v Speaker 2>want you know, at the beginning of this, you said

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<v Speaker 2>to me, you were like, well, I was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with this or actually, I'll say I'll say what

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<v Speaker 2>you read in the text. You said, I am kind

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<v Speaker 2>of being stalked, but it's chill. Tell me tell me

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<v Speaker 2>about uh how it has gotten chill. Are you just

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like you're not? I assume you're, yeah, Like

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<v Speaker 2>what's what's how have you been been able to be chill? Well?

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think that she's I mean, she has made

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<v Speaker 3>definitely some remarks about like, you know, he should be

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<v Speaker 3>in the ground and you know, I don't care if

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<v Speaker 3>he's dead and all that kind of stuff. Not quite

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<v Speaker 3>death threats, but teetering on the edge there and stuff

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<v Speaker 3>like that. But ultimately I don't think that she's like

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<v Speaker 3>actually like, you know, like gonna come after me physically.

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<v Speaker 3>I did go to the cops at one point after

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<v Speaker 3>she said that I had my brother held hostage, just

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<v Speaker 3>because she said that she was going to the cops, which,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, whatever, but I just didn't want to get swatted.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want them to think about as hostage here.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>The cops, I mean they were they were fuck all help,

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<v Speaker 3>you know. They were like, oh, did you know that

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<v Speaker 3>she is her First Amendment right?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, all right, whatever, Oh yeah, did they really

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<v Speaker 2>say that, dude?

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<v Speaker 3>They were like they were like, well, technically that's all

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<v Speaker 3>the First Amendment right to free speech, and I'm like,

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<v Speaker 3>in the ground and.

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<v Speaker 2>That's super that's by the way, that's I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, I'm not a fucking lawyer, but like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pretty sure that the I'm pretty sure that the First

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<v Speaker 2>Amendment ends at death threats. I think that's that's like

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<v Speaker 2>inciting violence.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, Yeah, that's that's kind of what I was thinking too.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, I won't get all political. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that I wasn't. I wasn't too surprised by that response.

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<v Speaker 3>But the past, like I said, started Thursdays when I

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<v Speaker 3>felt well, I found out about Thursday, like the week,

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<v Speaker 3>but like the past like twenty four hours. She hasn't

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<v Speaker 3>posted her anything. She doesn't post her anything, which was,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, kind of odd because she had been posting

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<v Speaker 3>like every hour on the hour for like a week

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<v Speaker 3>before that. So I'm not really sure what's going on.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm hoping that she got help, you know, because like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, I'm not like upset with her or anything.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, she's she's having some sort of episode. She's

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<v Speaker 3>she's she's sick, you know, so I hope she gets help.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what all I wrote one from it. But it's

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<v Speaker 3>a little, uh, it's it's been stressful, you know, especially

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<v Speaker 3>because you know, not to be too dark. But like

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<v Speaker 3>if she's not post if she suddenly stops posting, that

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<v Speaker 3>can either mean she got help or something pretty bad,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, And I'm trying to avoid thinking about that.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know how I did good?

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<v Speaker 3>God, No, I was just I was just gonna said,

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<v Speaker 3>I did you know, before going to the cops, I

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<v Speaker 3>did call like a crisis hotline explain the situation of them,

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<v Speaker 3>and they were like, uh uh, they were gonna They said,

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<v Speaker 3>they told me they'd try to call her, but they

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<v Speaker 3>couldn't tell me whether or not they did speak to

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<v Speaker 3>her because that's all like confidential information.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, of course, what have you been doing since

0:14:11.880 --> 0:14:12.800
<v Speaker 2>the band broke up?

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<v Speaker 1>You know?

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<v Speaker 3>So the band actually broke up like a couple of

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<v Speaker 3>years ago, but we just didn't make any posts about it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's kind of been a little bit of a fallout

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<v Speaker 3>since then. But we did have like a bunch of

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<v Speaker 3>music that hadn't been released and we were all still

0:14:35.760 --> 0:14:41.920
<v Speaker 3>chill with each other, so we released like the last

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<v Speaker 3>bit of music just a little while ago. It was

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<v Speaker 3>actually kind of funny because you know, we hadn't posted

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<v Speaker 3>anything for a couple of years, and some random person

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<v Speaker 3>on Instagram was like, I need this band to drop

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<v Speaker 3>music for my birthday on June second, and I like

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<v Speaker 3>swiped up. I was like, okay, yeah, sure, because, like

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<v Speaker 3>I said, we had a bunch of songs that we

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<v Speaker 3>just hadn't released because you know, the band broke up.

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<v Speaker 3>So we released all those songs on that person's birthday and.

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<v Speaker 2>Then that's nice.

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<v Speaker 3>Made the made the post about breaking up after that.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you are you still in a band? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>still making music here?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah? I was in like a few bands at the time.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm actually I actually got a show to not I'd

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<v Speaker 3>playing a that was like a kind of a pop

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<v Speaker 3>rock band that did originals. Now I'm playing in a

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<v Speaker 3>in a country cover band.

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<v Speaker 2>Cool man, Well, I look over your shoulder when you

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<v Speaker 2>have when you're out there, because it is I I

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<v Speaker 2>will I will say, like, you know, it's a little gnarly,

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<v Speaker 2>like being like a you know, a touring like it's

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<v Speaker 2>it's gnarly having a stalker and also being like, hey.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's where I'm going to be physically, yeah right now.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I don't know. I didn't post anything about it

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<v Speaker 3>specifically kind of for that reason. I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not really gonna I'm not gonna take that hit.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you Are you still doing music for a living

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<v Speaker 2>or you got another gig?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, well I've got right now. I'm working a few

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<v Speaker 3>different jobs, but yeah I do. Uh, I work like

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<v Speaker 3>audio and stuff too, So I work sound at this

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<v Speaker 3>bar that I'm going to play at time and at

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<v Speaker 3>a country bar, you know, all the different country bands

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<v Speaker 3>come through, and one of them was like, hey, we

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<v Speaker 3>need a drummer to fill in. I was like, okay, yeah, sure,

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<v Speaker 3>I'll do it. And then I just started became permanent.

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<v Speaker 3>So I played there once a month and yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 3>a good time. So I was never really as before.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean, it's so coral. It is crazy that

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<v Speaker 2>somebody that you haven't spoken to and like that long

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<v Speaker 2>will just like come back and be like this guy

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<v Speaker 2>is a serial killer.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, zero contact. And you know, initially, whenever she was

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<v Speaker 3>making the post, she wasn't directly aiming me. She was

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<v Speaker 3>naming the band and like all that. But then it's

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<v Speaker 3>towards the end then she said my you know, my

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<v Speaker 3>full name, and she said, uh, like, she didn't say

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<v Speaker 3>my exact address, but she said what town I live

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<v Speaker 3>in and all that kind of stuff. So it was uh,

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<v Speaker 3>it was definitely a little stressful.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, man, that's just her right to free speech.

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<v Speaker 2>I suppose it's her.

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<v Speaker 3>Right to free speech. Yeah, I'm gonna start. My brother

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<v Speaker 3>and I were joking that I need to start writing

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<v Speaker 3>poems back like a like a like a rat battle,

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<v Speaker 3>but for poems.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Yeah, have you got anything? You got anything

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<v Speaker 1>cooking in the drafts?

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<v Speaker 3>Well nothing yet. I'm still a I'm still a filtering

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<v Speaker 3>through the poems, getting some more inspiration. But uh yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not actually gonna do that. That would be probably,

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<v Speaker 3>uh I think that would be considered feeding delusion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think that's probably I think it's probably best

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<v Speaker 2>to just ignore it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, no, I still haven't. I didn't respond any

0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:08.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, like so she messaged me one time on

0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:14.320
<v Speaker 3>Instagram just being like you better stop this or I'm

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<v Speaker 3>gonna you know, this is the worst thing anyone's ever

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<v Speaker 3>done to me. And ultimately, you know, I you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I just walked HERU. I didn't respond to it, So

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<v Speaker 3>I don't want to feed into it, yea. And ultimately,

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<v Speaker 3>like the whole thing, it's just kind of a sad situation,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, like I'm not really I'm not fearful of

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<v Speaker 3>my own safety at this point, really because I don't

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<v Speaker 3>think she's a threat. But yeah, it's been Uh, it's

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<v Speaker 3>been strange. There's a lot of parallels to the show

0:18:40.680 --> 0:18:42.000
<v Speaker 3>Baby Reindeer. It's a good show.

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<v Speaker 2>You shall watch it, Okay, all right, I'll check it out.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was uh, I thought it was fucking

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<v Speaker 2>about a reindeer.

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<v Speaker 3>Nah, Well it's a it's about a stand up comedian,

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<v Speaker 3>well like a kind of small time stand up comedian,

0:18:57.320 --> 0:19:00.960
<v Speaker 3>about as small time as my band was. And he

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<v Speaker 3>gets a stalker who's like a she becomes like a

0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:06.520
<v Speaker 3>crazy fan of him, and there's a lot of a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of weird parallels.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you're going you're Dave, right, Aiden?

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<v Speaker 2>Aiden? What damn it? Someone else called in is Dave.

0:19:16.480 --> 0:19:18.399
<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry. I like Dave. It's a good name.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Dave too. I like Dave too. Well, Aidan,

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<v Speaker 2>thanks for thanks for sharing. Uh I I hope everything

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<v Speaker 2>works out, okay, Man?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Yeah, I'm hoping so too.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there anything else you want to say to the

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<v Speaker 1>people of the computer before we.

0:19:35.440 --> 0:19:39.040
<v Speaker 3>Go, Uh, not that the people computer, but I do

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<v Speaker 3>I think you should go back on the H three

0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:49.320
<v Speaker 3>podcast whenever you're in LA because your podcasts and their

0:19:49.359 --> 0:19:52.680
<v Speaker 3>podcasts are like, those are the two I watch and

0:19:52.760 --> 0:19:55.119
<v Speaker 3>I love your your episodes together.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks yet, dude, It's crazy how many yeah, dude, so

0:19:58.200 --> 0:20:00.000
<v Speaker 2>many people when I when I, when I do my life,

0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:02.040
<v Speaker 2>I've shows and I meet people afterwhard It's like there's

0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:05.280
<v Speaker 2>always so many people wearing uh, wearing Teddy Fresh. So

0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:08.320
<v Speaker 2>I know that those those universes are definitely on a

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<v Speaker 2>on a on a on a similar vent diagram.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I actually I actually found well, I knew

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<v Speaker 3>of their podcast. I didn't start watching. I started watching

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<v Speaker 3>you first. I know you said, oh really.

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<v Speaker 2>That's that's that. That's a new one. I've not I

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<v Speaker 2>have I haven't heard that. I have not heard that before.

0:20:24.160 --> 0:20:26.879
<v Speaker 2>I have not heard anyone who I have introduced it to.

0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:28.800
<v Speaker 2>The to H three, I mean they're huge.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yes, I've heard of them before, but you know,

0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:34.520
<v Speaker 3>I didn't really start watching the until after you were

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<v Speaker 3>on some cool man.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, all right, one for me. Hell ya, Well thanks

0:20:41.240 --> 0:20:44.479
<v Speaker 2>for calling Aiden and uh good luck and don't uh

0:20:44.800 --> 0:20:46.919
<v Speaker 2>you know, keep keeping keep an eye on the in

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<v Speaker 2>the back of your fucking head, bro.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I'll let you know that the at the next

0:20:50.640 --> 0:20:53.760
<v Speaker 3>Saint Louis Live Show whether or not I was murdered.

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<v Speaker 2>I completely you know what, I completely forgot about that,

0:20:57.960 --> 0:21:00.280
<v Speaker 2>that whole interaction we had at the beginning of this call.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna just say this, because I think you're

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<v Speaker 2>a nice guy. I forgive you for calling me short. Uh,

0:21:07.800 --> 0:21:10.560
<v Speaker 2>even though you know what I forgive you. It's your

0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:13.520
<v Speaker 2>fucking freedom of speech. It's your First Amendment right to

0:21:14.359 --> 0:21:17.040
<v Speaker 2>call me short. It's also true. I am I'm a short.

0:21:17.680 --> 0:21:22.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm a little little No, I'm no, I'm I'm I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a I'm a teeny tiny, itty bitty ah little little guy.

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<v Speaker 3>You're taller than the average.

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<v Speaker 2>Get go oky, take care of.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi?

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<v Speaker 5>Is this Lile?

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<v Speaker 2>Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Hi?

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<v Speaker 2>Hello? What is your name?

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<v Speaker 5>You can give me a name if you want.

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<v Speaker 1>I can give you a name if I want.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm gonna call you. I'm gonna call you Lyle.

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<v Speaker 2>You're Lyle. We're both Lyle.

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<v Speaker 5>Excellent works for me. Good t me Toole.

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<v Speaker 2>Lyle. What's up?

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<v Speaker 1>How's life? How's it going?

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<v Speaker 5>It's you know, it could be better, but I guess

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<v Speaker 5>that's why I'm calling it so.

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<v Speaker 2>Lyle. You you texted me and you said something I

0:22:19.280 --> 0:22:22.719
<v Speaker 2>thought was very interesting. You said, Hey, Gek, I'm getting

0:22:22.800 --> 0:22:26.080
<v Speaker 2>locally famous by word of mouth, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to be what tell me?

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<v Speaker 2>Tell me more?

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<v Speaker 1>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 3>So?

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, I am an Uber driver, uh, and I am

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<v Speaker 5>also an artist and I decided one day about like

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<v Speaker 5>seven or eight years ago, I was going to include

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<v Speaker 5>my art in my ubercar. And you know, people have

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<v Speaker 5>responded very positively to it. It's like, oh, this is

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<v Speaker 5>an experience, like you're amazing, Like it's just like compliments

0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:09.560
<v Speaker 5>out the wazoo. There was one girl who straight up

0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:12.000
<v Speaker 5>told me, You're going to heaven for this?

0:23:12.160 --> 0:23:12.720
<v Speaker 2>Do you know that?

0:23:12.880 --> 0:23:18.840
<v Speaker 5>Right? I like, I have my doubts, but okay, So

0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:26.000
<v Speaker 5>I tried posting about it on social media one time, uh,

0:23:26.480 --> 0:23:30.879
<v Speaker 5>and I gotta say the response was very negative. A

0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:34.280
<v Speaker 5>lot of people called me very entitled because it's like

0:23:34.400 --> 0:23:39.160
<v Speaker 5>not every Uber driver can can afford to spend stuff

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<v Speaker 5>on your car like that, Like people are going to

0:23:43.320 --> 0:23:46.960
<v Speaker 5>destroy that like et cetera, et cetera. Uh, talking about

0:23:47.000 --> 0:23:48.639
<v Speaker 5>like the decorations and such.

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<v Speaker 2>So, so so you're the plan is you're so you're

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<v Speaker 2>an artist and you were basically decking out your your

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<v Speaker 2>car I remember Carr.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, yeah, correct, okay, And like, honestly, there were just

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:09.080
<v Speaker 5>a lot of negative comments on the singular post that

0:24:09.160 --> 0:24:13.439
<v Speaker 5>I made. Really it got to the point where I

0:24:13.480 --> 0:24:16.959
<v Speaker 5>had like started to spiral a little bit and I

0:24:17.040 --> 0:24:19.840
<v Speaker 5>was like considering taking the whole thing down and just

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<v Speaker 5>being a plaine ubercar again. And my brother he actually

0:24:24.880 --> 0:24:28.920
<v Speaker 5>he actually stole my phone and he was like, hey,

0:24:29.840 --> 0:24:32.399
<v Speaker 5>you know, there was some sort of new update to

0:24:32.880 --> 0:24:35.639
<v Speaker 5>the phone. Can I like see yours to compare it?

0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:38.439
<v Speaker 5>And he like ran away with my phone to the

0:24:38.480 --> 0:24:40.720
<v Speaker 5>bathroom for a minute, and he came back out and

0:24:40.720 --> 0:24:45.600
<v Speaker 5>he said, hey, I actually deleted this post for you.

0:24:45.600 --> 0:24:49.480
<v Speaker 5>You're awesome and don't let these idiots tell you what

0:24:49.640 --> 0:24:52.680
<v Speaker 5>to do with your life. And I was like, oh shit,

0:24:53.560 --> 0:24:56.800
<v Speaker 5>that's really nice of you. And like I decided from

0:24:56.840 --> 0:24:59.880
<v Speaker 5>that moment on that I was not going to have

0:25:00.160 --> 0:25:03.680
<v Speaker 5>like any sort of social media presence about this. I

0:25:03.720 --> 0:25:06.800
<v Speaker 5>was just going to live my life in person and like,

0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:12.159
<v Speaker 5>you know, have the have a nice time, just like

0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:18.640
<v Speaker 5>earning money and like living life. So, okay, here's where

0:25:19.440 --> 0:25:26.760
<v Speaker 5>I would like to ask you for either validation or condemnation.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So.

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<v Speaker 5>I've done this for almost eight years in three different cities.

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<v Speaker 5>Each time I have gotten offers of like, oh, I

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:44.000
<v Speaker 5>can be like a regular passenger for you, we can

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<v Speaker 5>do it off of the Uber apps and I'll just

0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:51.399
<v Speaker 5>pay you directly, and like they'll like they want to

0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:53.680
<v Speaker 5>call me, they want to like hire me, they want

0:25:53.680 --> 0:25:57.800
<v Speaker 5>to do news articles about me and such. There have

0:25:57.880 --> 0:26:02.640
<v Speaker 5>been people who want to tag me on Instagram stories

0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:04.720
<v Speaker 5>and whatnot, and I'm like, I don't have social media,

0:26:05.240 --> 0:26:07.600
<v Speaker 5>so and they're like you should, you should? You would

0:26:07.600 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 5>go absolutely viral, like you need to have a TikTok live,

0:26:12.080 --> 0:26:15.879
<v Speaker 5>And like, honestly, I've looked into the logistics and stuff

0:26:15.920 --> 0:26:19.400
<v Speaker 5>of all that, and there are like really good reasons

0:26:19.440 --> 0:26:23.400
<v Speaker 5>not to not to like become famous in that sort

0:26:23.440 --> 0:26:28.320
<v Speaker 5>of sense. Like there's consent laws for filming you need

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:33.400
<v Speaker 5>to be worried about. There's the general shittiness of invading

0:26:33.440 --> 0:26:39.640
<v Speaker 5>somebody's privacy after a long day. There's uh insurance costs

0:26:39.720 --> 0:26:45.919
<v Speaker 5>because Uber provides us with insurance and doing it like

0:26:46.280 --> 0:26:49.760
<v Speaker 5>through an insurance company would cost like six hundred extra

0:26:49.840 --> 0:26:52.040
<v Speaker 5>dollars on top of the one fifty I already pay

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:56.360
<v Speaker 5>for personal. So it's like I don't want to do that.

0:26:56.440 --> 0:26:59.399
<v Speaker 5>I don't want to like give people my number or

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<v Speaker 5>like I don't want to have to have contact with

0:27:04.440 --> 0:27:06.680
<v Speaker 5>some of these people because they are they are nuts.

0:27:06.760 --> 0:27:08.800
<v Speaker 5>There are a lot of really crazy people.

0:27:08.560 --> 0:27:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Out There's a crazy people out there.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, you know that I saw earlier with the.

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<v Speaker 2>It's something I know from from doing this, That's something

0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:23.920
<v Speaker 2>I know from just being alive on the planet Earth.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah. No, And I just like generally did not want

0:27:30.520 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 5>to give out my information. I do not want to

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:36.879
<v Speaker 5>go viral. I don't want to have a TikTok or

0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:42.160
<v Speaker 5>a TikTok live or or whatever presence. And like I'm

0:27:42.200 --> 0:27:48.840
<v Speaker 5>basically turning down potential fame, potential fortune to just live

0:27:48.960 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 5>like a normal what I would consider a quiet life

0:27:53.720 --> 0:27:55.560
<v Speaker 5>where I just like I go to a bar, I

0:27:55.560 --> 0:27:58.040
<v Speaker 5>hang out with my friends when I have time off,

0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:01.440
<v Speaker 5>you know, like I'm not not on the content grind,

0:28:01.600 --> 0:28:06.679
<v Speaker 5>you know what I'm saying. And I'm like, so.

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<v Speaker 2>This, so this is this You're asking me for validation

0:28:11.000 --> 0:28:14.119
<v Speaker 2>or condemnation on this choice.

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:18.040
<v Speaker 5>Yes, on the choice of like turning down potential money,

0:28:18.359 --> 0:28:24.119
<v Speaker 5>wow and like stuff just to be myself and be happy.

0:28:24.200 --> 0:28:27.240
<v Speaker 2>I guess I'm gonna stop. I'm not gonna call you

0:28:27.359 --> 0:28:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Lyle because I want to actually talk to you, and

0:28:29.000 --> 0:28:30.440
<v Speaker 2>I feel like if I call you Lyle, it's gonna

0:28:30.440 --> 0:28:31.720
<v Speaker 2>make a weird So I'm gonna call you. I'm gonna

0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:36.800
<v Speaker 2>call you Jenny. I love I love this call. This

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 2>is so great. This is so awesome. I love this.

0:28:39.520 --> 0:28:42.560
<v Speaker 2>This is great, this is really awesome. How how I

0:28:42.560 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 2>I before I give my comments? So you've been doing

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 2>this for eight years, just like and and you. It's

0:28:52.000 --> 0:28:55.200
<v Speaker 2>just basically so for eight years. You just you're an artist.

0:28:55.240 --> 0:28:58.240
<v Speaker 2>You have a decked out, cool ass fucking car. People

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:02.440
<v Speaker 2>love your car. People are are asking you if you

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:07.520
<v Speaker 2>can be, you know, their personal chauffeur. And it's it's

0:29:07.520 --> 0:29:11.520
<v Speaker 2>become too much. Oh my god, wow, I am dude, Jenny.

0:29:11.560 --> 0:29:14.160
<v Speaker 1>I love this, I.

0:29:14.120 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Mean off the gate. First of all, you don't need

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:19.240
<v Speaker 2>my validation on how to live your life. I think

0:29:19.240 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 2>the way you're living your life is spectacular. I really do,

0:29:23.360 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I really do. I mean you just you know,

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.320
<v Speaker 2>a just from talking to you for nine minutes, you

0:29:32.440 --> 0:29:36.480
<v Speaker 2>sound extremely happy as a person. Is that true?

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<v Speaker 5>Well? I mean I do struggle with clinical anxiety and

0:29:41.760 --> 0:29:44.720
<v Speaker 5>clinical depression. I say the word clinical because I did

0:29:44.960 --> 0:29:47.320
<v Speaker 5>go to a doctor. I went to a psychologist. I'm

0:29:47.360 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 5>on medication, so you know, like it is what it is.

0:29:51.520 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 5>But I've been managing it pretty okay. I see a therapist,

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:58.000
<v Speaker 5>a real therapist regularly. So I promise you I'm not

0:29:58.040 --> 0:30:00.280
<v Speaker 5>going to like hit you with the with the deep

0:30:00.280 --> 0:30:00.920
<v Speaker 5>stuff today.

0:30:01.840 --> 0:30:02.800
<v Speaker 1>No, this is this.

0:30:02.800 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Is this is perfect, you know, dude, I'm telling you this.

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:19.320
<v Speaker 2>Everyone who's telling you like the they're going viral on

0:30:19.440 --> 0:30:23.240
<v Speaker 2>social media, having social media, having money.

0:30:24.280 --> 0:30:25.600
<v Speaker 1>These are all.

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:33.400
<v Speaker 2>Tools. Ideally, these ideally, these are all means to greater

0:30:33.840 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 2>ends that we've actually thought about and that we're not

0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:39.960
<v Speaker 2>just pursuing for the sake of pursuing them, you know.

0:30:40.200 --> 0:30:44.480
<v Speaker 1>And so it sounds to me that your greater end.

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:50.600
<v Speaker 2>Is it sounds like you've thought about what you want

0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 2>out of life, and it sounds like what you want

0:30:53.120 --> 0:30:55.680
<v Speaker 2>is a is a nice, quiet life where you can

0:30:55.720 --> 0:31:00.000
<v Speaker 2>make art and be happy and be with your friends

0:31:00.520 --> 0:31:03.480
<v Speaker 2>and hang out and not have to deal with fucking

0:31:03.520 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 2>crazy people. Correct, And it sounds like and and you know, look,

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:12.560
<v Speaker 2>if you told me you had a different dream and

0:31:12.680 --> 0:31:15.120
<v Speaker 2>the way to get to that dream was through you know,

0:31:15.960 --> 0:31:18.960
<v Speaker 2>the tools that social media and money can provide. I

0:31:19.000 --> 0:31:21.680
<v Speaker 2>would say you should go for it, but that doesn't

0:31:21.680 --> 0:31:23.600
<v Speaker 2>sound like what's going on.

0:31:24.560 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 5>You know, yeah, definitely not. I mean, I got like

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:32.320
<v Speaker 5>a college degree, so I am educated. I am like

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:35.720
<v Speaker 5>capable of getting a different job. It's just that every

0:31:35.720 --> 0:31:38.920
<v Speaker 5>time I do it never really works out. Uber's just

0:31:38.960 --> 0:31:42.560
<v Speaker 5>been like the one thing that's consistently paid my bills

0:31:42.640 --> 0:31:45.320
<v Speaker 5>through it all. So I'm like, at this point, why

0:31:45.320 --> 0:31:48.480
<v Speaker 5>I fight it? This is my job now, Yeah, dude.

0:31:49.440 --> 0:31:52.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean also, here's another thing. I swear to god.

0:31:52.120 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 2>I was just I was talking to my friend about

0:31:53.960 --> 0:31:56.920
<v Speaker 2>this all day to day. How long have you not

0:31:57.000 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 2>had social media for?

0:32:00.160 --> 0:32:06.280
<v Speaker 5>We're going on like about two years ish, And I

0:32:06.320 --> 0:32:08.880
<v Speaker 5>mean like that the story about the post that I

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:12.800
<v Speaker 5>made actually happened probably about four or five years ago.

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 5>But I was still like terminally online after that, like

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:20.040
<v Speaker 5>checking Twitter for stuff, and you know, every time I

0:32:20.120 --> 0:32:22.840
<v Speaker 5>opened one of those apps, I noticed that there was

0:32:22.920 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 5>just something new to be angry about. Dude, and I

0:32:25.760 --> 0:32:27.560
<v Speaker 5>was just so tired all the time.

0:32:28.120 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>How'd you find me? By the way, if you're not

0:32:30.200 --> 0:32:33.840
<v Speaker 2>on social media, so like.

0:32:33.920 --> 0:32:39.160
<v Speaker 5>I don't post or anything. I do, uh like scroll

0:32:39.240 --> 0:32:43.240
<v Speaker 5>through YouTube shorts. I watch a lot of those, like

0:32:43.920 --> 0:32:48.160
<v Speaker 5>the Minecraft parkour while people read out memes let me

0:32:48.240 --> 0:32:49.520
<v Speaker 5>do Yeah.

0:32:50.680 --> 0:32:51.080
<v Speaker 1>So funny.

0:32:51.080 --> 0:32:52.160
<v Speaker 2>I was about to be like, what the fuck are

0:32:52.200 --> 0:32:53.720
<v Speaker 2>people watching these days? And I was like, oh, I

0:32:53.720 --> 0:32:55.640
<v Speaker 2>know exactly what she's talking about. I've watched a bunch

0:32:55.640 --> 0:32:58.240
<v Speaker 2>of those videos, like yeah, no.

0:32:58.320 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 5>I love those things. They're a curated feed. I don't

0:33:00.800 --> 0:33:02.720
<v Speaker 5>have to see any car crashes. I don't have to

0:33:02.760 --> 0:33:06.680
<v Speaker 5>see any like horrific guys running through parades with a truck,

0:33:06.880 --> 0:33:10.360
<v Speaker 5>you know, like it's it's just nice.

0:33:10.080 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Dude, Jenny.

0:33:11.200 --> 0:33:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I if you can live your life, if you can

0:33:14.720 --> 0:33:16.240
<v Speaker 2>live your life without social.

0:33:15.960 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 1>Media, you really really really should.

0:33:20.000 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, I have some I'm on social media because well,

0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:26.240
<v Speaker 2>my excuse is that it's for my job, but really

0:33:26.240 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 2>it's just because I'm addicted to it like everyone else is.

0:33:28.560 --> 0:33:31.160
<v Speaker 1>But like when I when I phones off, when I

0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:31.840
<v Speaker 1>when I don't have.

0:33:31.800 --> 0:33:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Social media, like, it's just such a profound source of

0:33:35.840 --> 0:33:38.600
<v Speaker 2>anxiety for me and for for so many people that

0:33:38.640 --> 0:33:43.360
<v Speaker 2>I know, and and you know, it's it's hard to

0:33:43.440 --> 0:33:45.880
<v Speaker 2>just fucking rail on it right because the reason that

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:47.560
<v Speaker 2>you and I are talking right now, the reason that

0:33:48.080 --> 0:33:50.760
<v Speaker 2>you know I'm able to tour the country and and

0:33:50.760 --> 0:33:52.720
<v Speaker 2>and you know, get to talk to so many people

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:54.880
<v Speaker 2>and do all this amazing stuff I get to do.

0:33:55.000 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 2>Is is because of you know, using social media and

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:02.600
<v Speaker 2>going viral as a tool as a means to an

0:34:02.640 --> 0:34:04.800
<v Speaker 2>end for me to get to do those things. But

0:34:07.480 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 2>it comes with the great cost of like just anxiety,

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:13.600
<v Speaker 2>like you know, I mean, you know, like that that

0:34:13.680 --> 0:34:17.680
<v Speaker 2>Instagram post that you're constantly obsessed with the comments of

0:34:17.680 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 2>of like getting other people's opinion, getting other people's opinion,

0:34:21.640 --> 0:34:25.080
<v Speaker 2>not just not just other people's opinions about your life,

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 2>but just other people's opinions in general. You're scrolling through

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 2>TikTok and someone's like dating in twenty twenty four, be

0:34:32.360 --> 0:34:32.960
<v Speaker 2>like and it's like.

0:34:32.880 --> 0:34:34.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't care what you have to fucking like.

0:34:35.040 --> 0:34:38.439
<v Speaker 2>It just makes you forced to care about everything everyone says,

0:34:38.440 --> 0:34:42.160
<v Speaker 2>and it's just a fucking total nightmare. So I'm really

0:34:42.239 --> 0:34:46.120
<v Speaker 2>telling you, Jenny, if you don't mind, you don't need

0:34:46.120 --> 0:34:49.200
<v Speaker 2>my validation. But here it is like, if you can

0:34:50.320 --> 0:34:53.879
<v Speaker 2>have a happy, fulfilled life just making art and hang

0:34:53.920 --> 0:34:56.880
<v Speaker 2>out with your friends, it's you're gonna have a thousand

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 2>times more of a positive experience doing that than you know,

0:35:01.239 --> 0:35:03.839
<v Speaker 2>anything that you would find hanging out on Instagram.

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>So I think you're making a great decision. I don't

0:35:08.160 --> 0:35:08.520
<v Speaker 1>think that.

0:35:09.960 --> 0:35:14.400
<v Speaker 2>Like money and fame should be pursued to the max

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 2>for the sake of themselves, just for the sake of it,

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 2>just because just just because you have other people telling you,

0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:24.759
<v Speaker 2>oh my god, you could be so viral doing this, like.

0:35:25.880 --> 0:35:30.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like legitimately, last week, I want to say, there

0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:34.560
<v Speaker 5>was a woman who came out of this fancy party

0:35:34.640 --> 0:35:37.960
<v Speaker 5>that I was taking somewhere, and she was like, oh,

0:35:38.040 --> 0:35:40.040
<v Speaker 5>you know, I know all these people that can help

0:35:40.080 --> 0:35:42.799
<v Speaker 5>you get famous, Like I'm going to get you in

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 5>contact with a newspaper guy that I know, and like

0:35:47.000 --> 0:35:49.040
<v Speaker 5>she tried to take down my information and I'm like, no,

0:35:49.080 --> 0:35:51.040
<v Speaker 5>I don't. I don't give out my phone number, but

0:35:51.239 --> 0:35:53.600
<v Speaker 5>you know, like have wonderful I.

0:35:53.719 --> 0:35:58.520
<v Speaker 2>Great, dude, dude, dude, look, dude, if if that person

0:35:58.600 --> 0:36:00.719
<v Speaker 2>were here's the thing and it's about gut because if

0:36:00.760 --> 0:36:02.560
<v Speaker 2>that person we're talking to you and you were like,

0:36:02.640 --> 0:36:04.520
<v Speaker 2>oh that sounds cool, that sounds fun. Oh I can

0:36:04.520 --> 0:36:07.480
<v Speaker 2>make this into a business and I can make more money,

0:36:07.480 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 2>and like there's nothing wrong. There's nothing wrong. With wanting

0:36:10.320 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 2>to make money, but it's there's been nothing wrong with

0:36:15.120 --> 0:36:17.520
<v Speaker 2>not wanting to do anything. It's about what you want

0:36:17.560 --> 0:36:19.799
<v Speaker 2>out of your life, you know what I mean. And

0:36:19.840 --> 0:36:22.560
<v Speaker 2>you get to decide that, not whether not other anyone else.

0:36:24.280 --> 0:36:27.480
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, And I mean I've been trying to so every

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:30.120
<v Speaker 5>time they ask, I'm like, no, thank you're not interested.

0:36:30.280 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 5>And they're like, but you could be making so much

0:36:32.120 --> 0:36:36.200
<v Speaker 5>money and I'm like, I'm good man, i might be

0:36:36.360 --> 0:36:40.560
<v Speaker 5>like my bank account might be negative. I'm like this

0:36:40.800 --> 0:36:43.879
<v Speaker 5>close to losing health insurance because I haven't been able

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 5>to pay it lately because whatever, you know, Bill's but

0:36:47.480 --> 0:36:50.279
<v Speaker 5>you know, like at the end of the day, I

0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:57.400
<v Speaker 5>would sincerely rather struggle because like I you know, I

0:36:57.520 --> 0:37:01.719
<v Speaker 5>used to live in Los Angeles and one time, one

0:37:01.800 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 5>time I got the Papa Razzi treatment. Like I pull

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:10.719
<v Speaker 5>up with my art car and uh, the people like

0:37:10.840 --> 0:37:13.680
<v Speaker 5>notice that I have this donut pillow that I used

0:37:13.719 --> 0:37:17.200
<v Speaker 5>to like rest my arm on, and they're like they're

0:37:17.239 --> 0:37:22.480
<v Speaker 5>like flashing their cameras at me, and they're like, I'm like,

0:37:22.719 --> 0:37:26.680
<v Speaker 5>oh my god, this is awful. My eyes Burt.

0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.799
<v Speaker 1>M dude, I am.

0:37:34.400 --> 0:37:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you. I'm genuinely very curious about this.

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 2>I know you called in and you were like, I

0:37:38.120 --> 0:37:40.560
<v Speaker 2>want your validation or your condemnation. And I don't know

0:37:40.600 --> 0:37:43.799
<v Speaker 2>if you called in just to you know, Uh, this

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:45.680
<v Speaker 2>has been a great call. I've enjoyed. I've enjoyed. I

0:37:45.680 --> 0:37:49.440
<v Speaker 2>really do enjoy talking about this genuinely.

0:37:49.719 --> 0:37:51.839
<v Speaker 1>Is is.

0:37:53.440 --> 0:37:56.759
<v Speaker 2>Validation on your decision to live your life in this

0:37:56.800 --> 0:37:58.640
<v Speaker 2>way of really a thing that you struggle with?

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:05.520
<v Speaker 5>I mean it's because it happens uh so often. It's

0:38:05.680 --> 0:38:10.720
<v Speaker 5>it's just like, am I crazy? Like is this something

0:38:10.960 --> 0:38:15.040
<v Speaker 5>that other people would tell me? Like, oh, you know,

0:38:15.520 --> 0:38:17.759
<v Speaker 5>you're absolutely insane. You need to you need to give

0:38:17.800 --> 0:38:20.240
<v Speaker 5>into this pressure. You need to create your own business.

0:38:20.280 --> 0:38:22.719
<v Speaker 5>You need to like go into that so that you

0:38:22.760 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 5>can afford the startup costs and like then you'll be

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:30.840
<v Speaker 5>happy because you'll not be struggling anymore. And I'm just not.

0:38:30.960 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 5>I don't know, it just doesn't interest me. I mean, uh, like,

0:38:36.200 --> 0:38:39.880
<v Speaker 5>I just the reason that I called in was because

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:55.839
<v Speaker 5>I it's it's not that God, I'm sorry. So I mean,

0:38:55.880 --> 0:38:59.240
<v Speaker 5>I guess I wanted other people's opinions to like maybe

0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:03.160
<v Speaker 5>say more definitively because I know you guys in the

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:07.360
<v Speaker 5>comments will like sometimes respond to callers as well, So

0:39:07.400 --> 0:39:13.080
<v Speaker 5>I check the comments if anybody else would like to say,

0:39:13.160 --> 0:39:17.960
<v Speaker 5>you know, this person is not like, oh she's a nightmare.

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:20.480
<v Speaker 4>Oh but but.

0:39:20.280 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>Well, here's the thing.

0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:22.839
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna say that. First of all, nobody's gonna say that.

0:39:22.840 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Second of all, even if they do, that doesn't matter,

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:27.200
<v Speaker 2>because it's not.

0:39:28.880 --> 0:39:29.359
<v Speaker 1>That that.

0:39:29.520 --> 0:39:32.200
<v Speaker 2>What people say is not the important variable here. The

0:39:32.200 --> 0:39:34.040
<v Speaker 2>important variable here is what you want to do with

0:39:34.080 --> 0:39:38.759
<v Speaker 2>your life and what decisions you think are right for you.

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 5>You know, Yeah, I mean, I just I don't want

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:44.839
<v Speaker 5>to become a CEO. I don't want to like have

0:39:44.880 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 5>a billion followers. I don't want to I don't want

0:39:47.520 --> 0:39:50.400
<v Speaker 5>to go on Jimmy Fallon or anything like that. I

0:39:50.560 --> 0:39:55.040
<v Speaker 5>just I enjoy making things with my hands. I enjoy

0:39:55.800 --> 0:39:59.440
<v Speaker 5>like how you can kind of get in the zone

0:39:59.640 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 5>and it's sort of like an all existing presence in

0:40:04.800 --> 0:40:08.880
<v Speaker 5>the moment. And dude, just like how art is for me.

0:40:09.800 --> 0:40:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Man.

0:40:10.120 --> 0:40:16.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, here's here's the thing. Dude. It's tough, and

0:40:16.120 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 2>I think about it. I try to not be a

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:21.040
<v Speaker 2>hypocrite and like, you know, think about this, you know

0:40:21.080 --> 0:40:23.000
<v Speaker 2>in terms of like my own work and everything. But

0:40:23.120 --> 0:40:26.719
<v Speaker 2>like you know at the end of the day, man, Like,

0:40:29.200 --> 0:40:36.480
<v Speaker 2>the all you get for being recognized for the process

0:40:36.600 --> 0:40:37.560
<v Speaker 2>of what you do.

0:40:39.360 --> 0:40:42.920
<v Speaker 1>Is you get to do more of the process.

0:40:42.960 --> 0:40:46.279
<v Speaker 2>The reward is always just more of the process. So

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:49.680
<v Speaker 2>you better fucking like the process. And if all you

0:40:49.800 --> 0:40:52.760
<v Speaker 2>like is the process, then all you need is the process.

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:54.400
<v Speaker 2>You can you can be happy. You don't need to

0:40:54.440 --> 0:40:57.520
<v Speaker 2>be on fucking Jimmy Fallon. If you if you're seriously

0:40:57.600 --> 0:41:01.600
<v Speaker 2>so happy making art and you're happy doing it in

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:05.879
<v Speaker 2>your garage for no one, then just be happy doing

0:41:05.920 --> 0:41:07.720
<v Speaker 2>it in your garage for no one. Don't let anyone

0:41:07.719 --> 0:41:09.200
<v Speaker 2>tell you that you shouldn't be happy doing that.

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:14.839
<v Speaker 5>I think file, I No, I really mean that.

0:41:14.920 --> 0:41:20.879
<v Speaker 2>I really mean that. It's it's a it's a really weird,

0:41:21.000 --> 0:41:27.080
<v Speaker 2>crazy thing, you know, and that that's that's that's that's

0:41:27.080 --> 0:41:29.880
<v Speaker 2>really that's really just all you have, dude, is like,

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:31.960
<v Speaker 2>what are you actually doing at the end of the day,

0:41:31.960 --> 0:41:33.120
<v Speaker 2>what are you actually creating?

0:41:33.840 --> 0:41:36.920
<v Speaker 5>You know? Yeah?

0:41:36.960 --> 0:41:39.359
<v Speaker 2>And and by the way, like, I don't think there's

0:41:39.400 --> 0:41:43.600
<v Speaker 2>anything wrong with some people like I just enjoy the

0:41:43.680 --> 0:41:46.480
<v Speaker 2>process of Like if you want, if you wanted to

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 2>become the art car lady, you know, if you if

0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:54.160
<v Speaker 2>you enjoyed the process of creating a brand, if you

0:41:54.400 --> 0:41:57.239
<v Speaker 2>enjoyed the if you were excited at the idea of

0:41:58.000 --> 0:42:02.479
<v Speaker 2>making money doing this, you know, then that's that's great.

0:42:02.520 --> 0:42:06.120
<v Speaker 2>That's I don't think that that's something that's to be villainized.

0:42:06.640 --> 0:42:10.239
<v Speaker 2>But it's again, it doesn't matter. It's it's what you

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:12.000
<v Speaker 2>want to do at the end of the day. And

0:42:12.000 --> 0:42:14.440
<v Speaker 2>and it sounds like to me, what you want to

0:42:14.480 --> 0:42:17.080
<v Speaker 2>do is live your fucking life. Girl.

0:42:20.360 --> 0:42:24.000
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, that's pretty you have.

0:42:24.480 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 2>I got a question. I got a question. I got

0:42:26.160 --> 0:42:28.759
<v Speaker 2>a question. And even if it's just for me, I

0:42:28.800 --> 0:42:30.960
<v Speaker 2>won't post it anywhere. I kind of I kind of

0:42:30.960 --> 0:42:34.279
<v Speaker 2>want to see this car oh.

0:42:34.560 --> 0:42:35.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean like I can text.

0:42:35.680 --> 0:42:39.799
<v Speaker 2>You, yeah, you do you like? Do you even I

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.520
<v Speaker 2>guess I don't wanna. I don't want to invalidate this

0:42:42.719 --> 0:42:44.920
<v Speaker 2>entire conversation we just had. But do you even have

0:42:44.960 --> 0:42:46.840
<v Speaker 2>like do you have a website or anything? Do you

0:42:46.880 --> 0:42:50.560
<v Speaker 2>have anything pictures of it, not not to sell, just

0:42:50.560 --> 0:42:51.560
<v Speaker 2>just just to see it.

0:42:52.840 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, no, I can. I can text you the video

0:42:55.800 --> 0:42:57.240
<v Speaker 5>that I have.

0:42:59.280 --> 0:43:03.239
<v Speaker 2>Let me see, text me, text me a video, even

0:43:03.320 --> 0:43:04.879
<v Speaker 2>even after the call, text me the video.

0:43:04.920 --> 0:43:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I want to I want to take a look.

0:43:06.320 --> 0:43:08.080
<v Speaker 2>I'll check it out. Maybe I'll maybe i'll post it

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:11.399
<v Speaker 2>in uh in discord only if that's cool with you,

0:43:11.800 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 2>because I know I know other people are gonna want

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:13.920
<v Speaker 2>to see it.

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:17.279
<v Speaker 5>I mean, I guess so.

0:43:19.040 --> 0:43:21.439
<v Speaker 2>If you do that, that ass if you don't want,

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:24.080
<v Speaker 2>if you don't want use it, I want to see it.

0:43:24.719 --> 0:43:26.840
<v Speaker 2>So if you want, if you want to send it

0:43:26.840 --> 0:43:28.359
<v Speaker 2>to me, I'll just take a look. I won't post

0:43:28.360 --> 0:43:29.600
<v Speaker 2>it anywhere. I'll do it in with it.

0:43:30.960 --> 0:43:32.759
<v Speaker 5>I appreciate it, all right, all.

0:43:32.760 --> 0:43:34.680
<v Speaker 2>Right, that's what i'll do. That's what i'll do. Everyone

0:43:34.719 --> 0:43:36.360
<v Speaker 2>listening to this can fuck off.

0:43:40.000 --> 0:43:42.239
<v Speaker 5>Yeah no, I mean it's it's a lot that is

0:43:42.320 --> 0:43:45.120
<v Speaker 5>like in person because you know, you can't request me

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:49.600
<v Speaker 5>or anything like specifically. So half of the half of

0:43:49.640 --> 0:43:53.960
<v Speaker 5>the like fun is just thinking you're getting a normal

0:43:54.080 --> 0:43:56.440
<v Speaker 5>ubercar and then you walk in and it's.

0:43:56.280 --> 0:44:00.719
<v Speaker 2>Like that's cool, dude. See that's the thing, man, is

0:44:00.800 --> 0:44:03.719
<v Speaker 2>like just just doing it for that, just doing it

0:44:03.880 --> 0:44:06.080
<v Speaker 2>for the fucking look on people's faces when they get

0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:07.760
<v Speaker 2>in the car, Like that's that's all you need.

0:44:08.960 --> 0:44:11.280
<v Speaker 5>Oh yeah, no, I mean, like some of the reactions

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:13.320
<v Speaker 5>we've gotten have been great, and people are like oh,

0:44:13.719 --> 0:44:15.799
<v Speaker 5>you know, like you should make a reaction compilation and

0:44:15.840 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 5>I'm like, it's in my head, bitch.

0:44:20.080 --> 0:44:21.520
<v Speaker 2>I love that. I love that.

0:44:21.600 --> 0:44:23.480
<v Speaker 1>What was that? What was the fake name I gave you? Again?

0:44:24.680 --> 0:44:27.600
<v Speaker 2>Jenny, Jenny, Jenny.

0:44:27.640 --> 0:44:28.120
<v Speaker 1>This was great.

0:44:28.160 --> 0:44:32.239
<v Speaker 2>I really enjoyed having this conversation with you. You know,

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:33.960
<v Speaker 2>before we go, is there anything else that you you

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:36.319
<v Speaker 2>wanted to get out of this phone call or talk

0:44:36.320 --> 0:44:39.840
<v Speaker 2>about or anything in general before before we head out?

0:44:42.560 --> 0:44:45.040
<v Speaker 5>You know, I would like to say to the people

0:44:45.200 --> 0:44:51.480
<v Speaker 5>of the computer if you are thinking about where your

0:44:51.520 --> 0:44:55.280
<v Speaker 5>life is going, Like I'm thirty and people are always

0:44:55.320 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 5>saying like, oh, what was the point of view? There

0:44:58.560 --> 0:44:59.799
<v Speaker 5>doesn't need to be a point.

0:45:00.120 --> 0:45:01.120
<v Speaker 2>What do you hold on?

0:45:01.239 --> 0:45:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Real quick? What do you what do you mean?

0:45:02.560 --> 0:45:03.640
<v Speaker 2>What was the point of view?

0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 5>Just like legacy wise, like, what are you creating? What

0:45:10.760 --> 0:45:12.720
<v Speaker 5>a value are you adding to this world?

0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:17.719
<v Speaker 2>You are the value I can't believe. I mean, I

0:45:17.719 --> 0:45:19.880
<v Speaker 2>don't think anyone would be saying that about you. I mean,

0:45:19.920 --> 0:45:23.000
<v Speaker 2>you're clearly you're clearly adding value to the world. But

0:45:23.120 --> 0:45:25.319
<v Speaker 2>I mean you don't. You don't even have to do

0:45:25.360 --> 0:45:29.200
<v Speaker 2>anything as amazing as a fucking make a whole art

0:45:29.280 --> 0:45:34.040
<v Speaker 2>car to add value to the world. You can just yeah,

0:45:34.080 --> 0:45:35.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I don't even I don't even know

0:45:35.480 --> 0:45:37.360
<v Speaker 2>if I don't, I don't know, I don't know, I

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:37.719
<v Speaker 2>don't know.

0:45:38.480 --> 0:45:42.640
<v Speaker 5>Go ahead, No, no, you're good. I was actually just

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:46.360
<v Speaker 5>about to say that I'm sending it currently totally.

0:45:52.239 --> 0:45:54.360
<v Speaker 2>You were saying, you were saying something. You were saying

0:45:54.360 --> 0:45:57.160
<v Speaker 2>something about you were like, I'm thirty. People are like,

0:45:57.160 --> 0:45:58.880
<v Speaker 2>what's the point of view you wanted to say something?

0:46:00.280 --> 0:46:04.240
<v Speaker 5>No, yeah, I am, like, I'm about to be thirty

0:46:04.280 --> 0:46:13.520
<v Speaker 5>on Monday, and yeah, thank you. But you know, I, uh,

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.719
<v Speaker 5>I didn't. I went to college and you know, I

0:46:17.760 --> 0:46:23.440
<v Speaker 5>didn't end up like in a super important position. And

0:46:23.560 --> 0:46:27.279
<v Speaker 5>like I see people younger than me achieving so much

0:46:27.280 --> 0:46:32.120
<v Speaker 5>more than me, and it's just like comparing myself to

0:46:32.280 --> 0:46:34.320
<v Speaker 5>other people. You don't.

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:36.560
<v Speaker 3>Mean to.

0:46:38.640 --> 0:46:41.840
<v Speaker 5>Like if you if, I mean, I personally feel like

0:46:42.040 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 5>I'm achieving not necessarily my best life, but I'm on

0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:50.840
<v Speaker 5>the way there. So like, if if the people of

0:46:50.920 --> 0:46:55.719
<v Speaker 5>the computer would like to just simply exist, I mean,

0:46:55.800 --> 0:46:58.280
<v Speaker 5>that's okay too, I would think.

0:47:00.080 --> 0:47:03.000
<v Speaker 2>Any keep keep doing your thing, dude, keep making art,

0:47:03.120 --> 0:47:06.920
<v Speaker 2>keep uh, keep keep doing your thing, dude. I love it.

0:47:06.920 --> 0:47:07.560
<v Speaker 2>I think it's great.

0:47:09.480 --> 0:47:12.400
<v Speaker 5>Thank you so much, guys, have a.

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:12.920
<v Speaker 2>Rest of the night.

0:47:13.000 --> 0:47:13.799
<v Speaker 1>Jenny, thanks for calling.

0:47:15.280 --> 0:47:17.600
<v Speaker 5>Thank you, Bye bye bye.

0:47:20.040 --> 0:47:20.439
<v Speaker 1>That's great.

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:23.480
<v Speaker 2>I really I really did like that call. It's weird, man,

0:47:23.520 --> 0:47:27.360
<v Speaker 2>I think about this is actually something I really genuinely do.

0:47:29.120 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>Think about a lot, because you know, I do this

0:47:31.800 --> 0:47:33.560
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of reasons. I do it because it's

0:47:33.560 --> 0:47:35.000
<v Speaker 1>my job, it is how I make a living.

0:47:37.080 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I do it because it's enabled me to have, you know,

0:47:40.640 --> 0:47:45.399
<v Speaker 2>crazy opportunities to go places and meet people I would

0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:46.400
<v Speaker 2>never have otherwise.

0:47:48.960 --> 0:47:50.799
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I'm trying to kind of.

0:47:51.680 --> 0:47:54.560
<v Speaker 2>Stay stay connected with like the fucking just joy of

0:47:54.640 --> 0:47:57.440
<v Speaker 2>the process because like, dude, dude, fucking recording this podcast

0:47:57.520 --> 0:48:01.600
<v Speaker 2>can be very difficult sometimes. But but you know, even

0:48:01.680 --> 0:48:03.799
<v Speaker 2>just honestly, even just now, just you know, talking to

0:48:04.080 --> 0:48:07.240
<v Speaker 2>talking to Jenny over the past half hour, that felt

0:48:08.080 --> 0:48:10.560
<v Speaker 2>that felt good. I I really I enjoyed that. I enjoyed.

0:48:10.680 --> 0:48:14.160
<v Speaker 2>I enjoyed the process of being able to record that conversation,

0:48:15.400 --> 0:48:19.960
<v Speaker 2>package it up, fucking have other people be able to

0:48:19.960 --> 0:48:24.200
<v Speaker 2>listen to it and then use the money from doing

0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:27.760
<v Speaker 2>that to go buy a sandwich afterwards. That's cool.

0:48:28.200 --> 0:48:29.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm enjoying that.

0:48:29.600 --> 0:48:31.319
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that'd be dude, that'd be insane if I have

0:48:31.360 --> 0:48:35.520
<v Speaker 2>no idea where she lives or whatever. But oh, she

0:48:35.560 --> 0:48:37.839
<v Speaker 2>sent me a video of the car. Oh crap, it's

0:48:37.880 --> 0:48:40.759
<v Speaker 2>super pixelated. Oh I can kind of see it. Well,

0:48:40.800 --> 0:48:43.839
<v Speaker 2>this is super sick. This is a total Cocktai used

0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:45.480
<v Speaker 2>to talk about sick of the car is because I

0:48:45.480 --> 0:48:47.239
<v Speaker 2>I Am not going to post this video anywhere, but

0:48:47.280 --> 0:48:50.879
<v Speaker 2>it's a sick car. There's no call to action. There's

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:56.440
<v Speaker 2>no way to follow Jenny. There's no website. You know what,

0:48:56.760 --> 0:48:58.279
<v Speaker 2>you know what you can do, you can you can

0:48:58.360 --> 0:49:04.760
<v Speaker 2>follow fucking I don't know, follow, follow Jenny's spirit whatever

0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:05.640
<v Speaker 2>whatever that may be.

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:09.600
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that was cool man, rock on.

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:16.560
<v Speaker 4>All from Stephen. Hello, is this a real get go?

0:49:17.480 --> 0:49:17.680
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:49:17.760 --> 0:49:18.400
<v Speaker 2>Is this Stephen?

0:49:19.800 --> 0:49:20.720
<v Speaker 4>Yes? This is Stephen.

0:49:21.360 --> 0:49:22.120
<v Speaker 1>What's up Stephen?

0:49:22.680 --> 0:49:23.160
<v Speaker 3>Not much.

0:49:23.200 --> 0:49:30.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm surprised I got through. Yeah. I was thinking if

0:49:30.040 --> 0:49:32.279
<v Speaker 4>I did get through, what would I talk about? And

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:36.080
<v Speaker 4>I've been having an issue lately. I started a new

0:49:36.160 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 4>job this year and I had to start working hybrids.

0:49:40.239 --> 0:49:42.719
<v Speaker 4>So I go into the office a few days a

0:49:42.719 --> 0:49:46.400
<v Speaker 4>week and I work from home the other days. And

0:49:46.440 --> 0:49:48.440
<v Speaker 4>the problem I'm having is I'm meeting a lot of

0:49:48.480 --> 0:49:51.799
<v Speaker 4>new people, and I kind of know that I'm not

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:54.880
<v Speaker 4>going to like really hang out with these people beyond

0:49:55.080 --> 0:49:58.520
<v Speaker 4>the work life, and so I don't really know how

0:49:58.560 --> 0:50:01.560
<v Speaker 4>to talk to them. I'm having a hard time like

0:50:01.680 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 4>socializing properly. I think I think people think maybe I'm

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:08.359
<v Speaker 4>like weird or too focused on work because I don't

0:50:08.400 --> 0:50:17.839
<v Speaker 4>really know what's else to start up conversations about.

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:16.640
<v Speaker 2>How old are you?

0:50:18.600 --> 0:50:19.360
<v Speaker 4>Thirty six?

0:50:20.080 --> 0:50:24.200
<v Speaker 2>Okay? And has this been like an issue throughout your life?

0:50:25.880 --> 0:50:29.080
<v Speaker 4>No. Before COVID, I was like a lot more social.

0:50:29.280 --> 0:50:31.080
<v Speaker 4>Would definitely go out a lot more and meet a

0:50:31.080 --> 0:50:34.719
<v Speaker 4>lot of people that I don't hang out with to

0:50:34.760 --> 0:50:36.400
<v Speaker 4>this day. But I was definitely a lot more like

0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:41.280
<v Speaker 4>friendly or actually curious about them.

0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:45.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, curiosity, And do you do you feel like your curiosity.

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:48.759
<v Speaker 1>And other people has like waned as you've gotten older.

0:50:50.440 --> 0:50:55.680
<v Speaker 4>It has waned pretty far. Yeah, yeah, And I don't

0:50:55.680 --> 0:50:56.120
<v Speaker 4>know why.

0:50:56.320 --> 0:50:57.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I don't know what that is. Yeah, I

0:50:57.840 --> 0:50:59.480
<v Speaker 2>don't know what that is, but it would kind of

0:50:59.520 --> 0:51:02.759
<v Speaker 2>make sense, right, Like, as you get older and as

0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:05.000
<v Speaker 2>you get a little tired, you have to kind of

0:51:05.000 --> 0:51:10.920
<v Speaker 2>like start making more concerned effort to care about things

0:51:10.960 --> 0:51:13.479
<v Speaker 2>in a way.

0:51:13.600 --> 0:51:18.919
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, definitely, and and like people I'm interacting with.

0:51:20.320 --> 0:51:24.040
<v Speaker 4>I'm a I'm a project manager, so I have to

0:51:24.080 --> 0:51:26.800
<v Speaker 4>talk to a lot of people. So it's it's actually

0:51:26.880 --> 0:51:30.600
<v Speaker 4>becoming like a for me. It's becoming something I'm becoming

0:51:30.600 --> 0:51:33.239
<v Speaker 4>self conscious with because I'm interacting with a lot of

0:51:33.280 --> 0:51:37.680
<v Speaker 4>new people and I don't really I have a hard

0:51:37.680 --> 0:51:41.600
<v Speaker 4>time caring about I'm like, yeah, okay, but I don't

0:51:41.600 --> 0:51:44.319
<v Speaker 4>really know how much further to go outside of like

0:51:44.440 --> 0:51:47.040
<v Speaker 4>specific work type of conversations.

0:51:47.120 --> 0:51:50.960
<v Speaker 2>So no, everyone's kind of and the people don't like

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:53.160
<v Speaker 2>to a minute, but everyone's kind of been there where

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:56.240
<v Speaker 2>you're like at an office and you're talking to someone

0:51:56.360 --> 0:51:59.239
<v Speaker 2>and they're telling you about their weekend or their dog,

0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:02.560
<v Speaker 2>and in your mind and you're just like, I I'm sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish I was like a nice, cool guy all

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<v Speaker 2>the time, but I just don't fucking.

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<v Speaker 1>Care at all. Yeah, okay, yeah, that's all right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So they're like something that I like, an approach that

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<v Speaker 4>I can take that would like make me at least

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<v Speaker 4>come across a little bit more like I do care.

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<v Speaker 1>Why do you want to come across like you care?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh that's a good question. I just feel like as

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<v Speaker 4>my role at my job kind of has me in

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<v Speaker 4>front of a lot of people. My I feel like

0:52:38.440 --> 0:52:42.960
<v Speaker 4>the perception of people that they have of me is

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<v Speaker 4>kind of impactful to like how effective I can be,

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<v Speaker 4>especially if this person that I'm having a hard time

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<v Speaker 4>connecting with is someone who is like a customer, like

0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:59.000
<v Speaker 4>I'm going to deliver a project for you, but I'm

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<v Speaker 4>you know, I just I want to make sure I

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<v Speaker 4>come across friendly, but I'm having a hard time figuring

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<v Speaker 4>out thereat approach.

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<v Speaker 2>MM are you having problem? Are you having trouble just

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<v Speaker 2>like you're having trouble coming across as a as a

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<v Speaker 2>friendly person?

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<v Speaker 1>Is it just because like you don't you don't give

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<v Speaker 1>a shit?

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<v Speaker 4>I think I'm pretty friendly. I just don't. I think

0:53:23.520 --> 0:53:26.200
<v Speaker 4>I come across really shallow because I'm like, oh, you know,

0:53:26.800 --> 0:53:29.040
<v Speaker 4>anything interesting on your side of the office?

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 4>Which doesn't? I don't know? What do you really question?

0:53:34.520 --> 0:53:37.120
<v Speaker 2>What do you what do you really want to talk

0:53:37.160 --> 0:53:39.000
<v Speaker 2>to people about? What do you really want to talk

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<v Speaker 2>to people about?

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<v Speaker 4>It would be more I guess more, what do I

0:53:46.080 --> 0:53:48.960
<v Speaker 4>want to talk to people about? Honestly, it'd be more

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<v Speaker 4>interesting if I was if they were just like, hey,

0:53:51.200 --> 0:53:53.640
<v Speaker 4>tell me about you. It'd probably be more interesting to

0:53:53.719 --> 0:53:55.840
<v Speaker 4>like tell them about me rather than to like listen

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<v Speaker 4>to them, because sometimes I have a hard time like

0:53:59.160 --> 0:54:03.799
<v Speaker 4>listening to other people because of the way that they talk.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes it can be really boring, or what they do

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<v Speaker 4>talk about can be really boring. So it's easier if

0:54:08.600 --> 0:54:10.600
<v Speaker 4>they're like, what about what do you think about that?

0:54:10.680 --> 0:54:14.240
<v Speaker 4>It's like, well, good, at least maybe I can maybe

0:54:14.280 --> 0:54:16.680
<v Speaker 4>I can say something, and I'm very good at responding.

0:54:16.719 --> 0:54:20.480
<v Speaker 4>But when it comes to like interacting and engaging with people,

0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:22.919
<v Speaker 4>I think I've lost my touch, Like pretty hard.

0:54:23.400 --> 0:54:26.000
<v Speaker 2>Are you ever in a conversation and you just try

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<v Speaker 2>to say something crazy to make it more interesting? Have

0:54:29.360 --> 0:54:30.000
<v Speaker 2>you ever done that?

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like I used to be more like a

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<v Speaker 4>shock value before COVID. Definitely pre COVID was like more

0:54:40.239 --> 0:54:43.760
<v Speaker 4>would say things to get get like the shock value

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<v Speaker 4>from people.

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<v Speaker 1>I did that recently.

0:54:46.080 --> 0:54:47.600
<v Speaker 2>I was at a bar and I was talking to

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<v Speaker 2>someone and I wasn't really interested in it, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I said to them, when's the last time you thought

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<v Speaker 2>about killing yourself? And without missing a beat, they were

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<v Speaker 2>like I think that I and the without missing a beat,

0:54:59.200 --> 0:55:00.680
<v Speaker 2>they were like, I think thelast time I thought about

0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:04.879
<v Speaker 2>killing myself was like three years ago, and I was like, yeah,

0:55:04.880 --> 0:55:08.000
<v Speaker 2>I think me, I think probably me. Two man, And

0:55:08.040 --> 0:55:11.399
<v Speaker 2>then we both we talked about times we thought about

0:55:11.480 --> 0:55:14.040
<v Speaker 2>killing ourselves and it worked really well. I was like, Oh,

0:55:14.080 --> 0:55:16.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm glad I took that chance.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, that's a big chance.

0:55:21.840 --> 0:55:22.279
<v Speaker 2>Is it really?

0:55:22.680 --> 0:55:25.960
<v Speaker 4>I could have gone? That could have gone a different direction,

0:55:27.400 --> 0:55:29.120
<v Speaker 4>I guess, but it sounds like it went a good one.

0:55:31.400 --> 0:55:31.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't. I'm trying to think if I how shock

0:55:34.840 --> 0:55:36.040
<v Speaker 4>Value would work with my.

0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:39.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm not even I'm talking about Shockval. I'm not even

0:55:39.360 --> 0:55:43.799
<v Speaker 2>talking about Shockval. I'm just saying, I don't know, man,

0:55:43.920 --> 0:55:45.600
<v Speaker 2>why do you want to be a project manager?

0:55:48.280 --> 0:55:50.799
<v Speaker 4>I thought that I wanted to be, but it went

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<v Speaker 4>well with my skill set. I would say that's probably

0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:57.600
<v Speaker 4>the most corporate type of answer I could give you,

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<v Speaker 4>But it felt right and it was a good opportunity.

0:56:03.360 --> 0:56:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, you could go all in. You could just

0:56:05.000 --> 0:56:08.279
<v Speaker 2>be super fake, you know, you could just be in

0:56:08.320 --> 0:56:10.320
<v Speaker 2>there talking about uh.

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<v Speaker 4>Don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Like like sometimes when I when I'm talking to people

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<v Speaker 2>in like an office or corporate or professional setting, they

0:56:19.120 --> 0:56:21.319
<v Speaker 2>talk about like restaurants, they've been to.

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, that's very common. Yeah, very I do find myself

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<v Speaker 4>in that conversation a lot. Do you go to restaurants ever,

0:56:32.680 --> 0:56:37.200
<v Speaker 4>I recently, I really don't like being in public restaurants.

0:56:38.080 --> 0:56:40.560
<v Speaker 4>By I find myself doing takeout or like grub hub.

0:56:41.160 --> 0:56:41.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>So when people talk about restaurants, I'm like, yeah, I've

0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:49.160
<v Speaker 4>I've had that dropped off at my door. But you know,

0:56:49.239 --> 0:56:51.320
<v Speaker 4>I don't really know what the vibe is at the place.

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<v Speaker 2>People talk about restaurants, they talk about tent they talk

0:56:54.920 --> 0:56:56.000
<v Speaker 2>about sports.

0:56:56.920 --> 0:56:57.880
<v Speaker 3>Sports is popular.

0:56:58.000 --> 0:57:01.799
<v Speaker 4>I I did used to work at at Nike, which

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<v Speaker 4>which made it way easier to talk to people about

0:57:04.640 --> 0:57:09.480
<v Speaker 4>things because there's product. Oh yeah, did you see the

0:57:09.520 --> 0:57:10.480
<v Speaker 4>recent shoe or.

0:57:11.400 --> 0:57:12.000
<v Speaker 3>That was cool?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I don't know, see I see, I would I

0:57:18.840 --> 0:57:21.800
<v Speaker 2>want to see. I think it's more interesting to talk

0:57:21.800 --> 0:57:23.720
<v Speaker 2>about the last time you thought about killing yourself.

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<v Speaker 4>That is pretty wild.

0:57:28.440 --> 0:57:31.360
<v Speaker 2>I think probably I probably wouldn't do that in the office,

0:57:31.400 --> 0:57:36.280
<v Speaker 2>but who knows, I don't know. Maybe you know, maybe.

0:57:36.000 --> 0:57:38.160
<v Speaker 4>The last time you thought about quitting. Maybe I could

0:57:38.200 --> 0:57:39.360
<v Speaker 4>start asking people.

0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:44.600
<v Speaker 1>That, yeah, yeah, that's a version of that, yeah, and.

0:57:44.640 --> 0:57:47.120
<v Speaker 4>Be like and like why who who made you want

0:57:47.120 --> 0:57:47.439
<v Speaker 4>to quit?

0:57:48.200 --> 0:57:48.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

0:57:48.480 --> 0:57:50.880
<v Speaker 4>And I don't know, it could get.

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<v Speaker 2>Really dark, but yeah, get dark, go crazy. Why not,

0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:55.200
<v Speaker 2>You're gonna die. I'm gonna die. What What are we

0:57:55.240 --> 0:57:58.240
<v Speaker 2>wasting our time when you're talking about restaurants? For god,

0:57:58.280 --> 0:58:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I hate it so much. I hate it so much.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I've never been. I don't go to fucking restaurants.

0:58:04.000 --> 0:58:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I eat a Dell Taco and everyone wants to talk

0:58:06.240 --> 0:58:11.560
<v Speaker 2>about fucking restaurants. I don't know anything about any of this,

0:58:11.680 --> 0:58:13.880
<v Speaker 2>ship that any people. I don't know how to do it.

0:58:13.960 --> 0:58:14.440
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm with you, man, I don't know what the fuck

0:58:16.360 --> 0:58:17.440
<v Speaker 1>to talk to people about.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of negativity around Del Taco. I think

0:58:23.640 --> 0:58:29.439
<v Speaker 4>I think people have negative feelings towards that place. Does

0:58:29.440 --> 0:58:32.280
<v Speaker 4>that bother you or change your opinion.

0:58:33.480 --> 0:58:35.640
<v Speaker 2>About Del Taco? No, I don't care at all if

0:58:35.640 --> 0:58:36.960
<v Speaker 2>people don't like Del Taco.

0:58:38.440 --> 0:58:40.880
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that makes sense.

0:58:42.280 --> 0:58:44.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm trying to think about your life and this thing

0:58:44.920 --> 0:58:47.440
<v Speaker 2>that you're thinking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think maybe it's maybe it's the I don't.

0:58:55.000 --> 0:58:56.720
<v Speaker 4>I don't know if I need to care more, but

0:58:57.040 --> 0:58:58.200
<v Speaker 4>I find that hard.

0:58:58.320 --> 0:59:00.520
<v Speaker 2>No, I think you should. I think you should care

0:59:00.640 --> 0:59:05.960
<v Speaker 2>less about this. I think you should care less. I

0:59:06.000 --> 0:59:11.320
<v Speaker 2>think you should not. Here's like I think, don't like

0:59:11.480 --> 0:59:14.440
<v Speaker 2>take consideration into like, don't be a dick to people

0:59:15.400 --> 0:59:21.560
<v Speaker 2>or say anything that's outwardly mean or obnoxious. But other

0:59:21.640 --> 0:59:23.520
<v Speaker 2>than but if as long as you're not doing as

0:59:23.520 --> 0:59:25.920
<v Speaker 2>long as you're not being actively hostile or mean or

0:59:25.960 --> 0:59:29.200
<v Speaker 2>obnoxious to people, say whatever, who gives a shit?

0:59:30.320 --> 0:59:32.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I think that's a really good I think it's

0:59:33.040 --> 0:59:33.760
<v Speaker 4>really good advice.

0:59:34.200 --> 0:59:37.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know, just as long because that's the thing.

0:59:37.600 --> 0:59:40.760
<v Speaker 2>As long as you are are actively making sure you're

0:59:40.800 --> 0:59:44.400
<v Speaker 2>not like being a dick, then you can, I mean,

0:59:44.480 --> 0:59:46.840
<v Speaker 2>say whatever, who cares?

0:59:47.480 --> 0:59:48.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah?

0:59:48.440 --> 0:59:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:59:48.640 --> 0:59:50.320
<v Speaker 4>There is a lot of thought that goes into like

0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:53.480
<v Speaker 4>if the things I do say out loud could come

0:59:53.520 --> 0:59:55.200
<v Speaker 4>back to haunt me and.

0:59:55.200 --> 0:59:58.400
<v Speaker 2>See somebody in the chat just said articulated speech comes

0:59:58.440 --> 1:00:00.880
<v Speaker 2>across as mean, what the fuck are they talking about?

1:00:00.920 --> 1:00:04.240
<v Speaker 2>Who gives a shit? Who cans? Then somebody, even if

1:00:04.240 --> 1:00:06.680
<v Speaker 2>somebody does get upset at you about why, I don't like,

1:00:06.800 --> 1:00:08.160
<v Speaker 2>what what's it matter?

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<v Speaker 1>You're trying your best? God damn it.

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<v Speaker 4>So if I like, is that like over articulation where

1:00:14.200 --> 1:00:16.040
<v Speaker 4>you're assuming that they don't like understand?

1:00:16.120 --> 1:00:20.000
<v Speaker 2>No, no, No, The point is who cares what that chatter said. Oh,

1:00:20.520 --> 1:00:25.680
<v Speaker 2>they're not in your life, They're in Arizona somewhere. Yeah,

1:00:26.480 --> 1:00:27.280
<v Speaker 2>it doesn't matter.

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<v Speaker 4>It does not matter at all.

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<v Speaker 2>There we go. I don't know, I don't know if

1:00:34.600 --> 1:00:37.800
<v Speaker 2>any of this is making sense. I'm hoping this is

1:00:37.800 --> 1:00:39.000
<v Speaker 2>helpful to you in some way.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I mean, definitely opening up my mind a lot.

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<v Speaker 4>I really, I'm like super glad that I've got through.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks for calling, Steven. Is there anything else you want

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<v Speaker 2>to say to the people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 4>Hope everybody's having a good night, And yeah, thank you,

1:00:57.480 --> 1:00:59.880
<v Speaker 4>thank you for the help. But thanks for opening my mind.

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<v Speaker 2>Good good. I'll talk to you soon.

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<v Speaker 4>Stephen, Thank you, take care, talk to you later.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid I might have actually created a monster. Never

1:01:12.080 --> 1:01:15.200
<v Speaker 1>be Ken goes on the line taking your phone calls

1:01:15.280 --> 1:01:18.080
<v Speaker 1>every night. Never be Can goes to on his eye.

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<v Speaker 2>He's teaching you about in the

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<v Speaker 1>Middle of your life, but he's not really an expert.