WEBVTT - Ep. 091: Surviving 0:00:08.920 --> 0:00:13.320 This is me eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely 0:00:13.440 --> 0:00:17.680 bug bitten in my case, underwear listening don't eat podcast. 0:00:18.239 --> 0:00:37.200 You can't predict anything. Oh um, you know, I even't 0:00:37.200 --> 0:00:39.560 want to talk about And you guys appreciate this because 0:00:39.600 --> 0:00:46.240 you you both garden we had, okay, I was growing pumpkins, okay, 0:00:46.280 --> 0:00:48.880 and I put the pumpkins I grew. I was growing 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:52.600 like in my garden closest to the road and started 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:56.320 getting some like good head size pumpkins. And one day 0:00:56.360 --> 0:01:00.720 I come out and one of them has been twisted off, 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:05.760 clearly twisted off the vine and it's gone okay, And 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:07.840 I'm like looking at like trying to figure out. And 0:01:07.840 --> 0:01:10.200 I used to have, like we raised pat raccoons when 0:01:10.200 --> 0:01:11.600 I was a kid, and I know like what a 0:01:11.680 --> 0:01:13.840 raccoon is a capable of. And I was like, could 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:15.840 they really get because we got him, you know, and 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:17.520 could they really get like a pumpkin off and then 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:19.920 also get it away where I can't find it. I 0:01:19.959 --> 0:01:21.560 come out the next day and my other pumpkin has 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:25.760 been cut with a freaking knife. Mhm. So at this point, 0:01:25.760 --> 0:01:27.520 I know, like this is not you know, like I've 0:01:27.520 --> 0:01:30.200 seen raccoons do crazy stuff, but like real knives is 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:33.319 not right, and I and I and I'm guilty, Like 0:01:33.360 --> 0:01:36.440 you know, you hear about police profiling. I profile in 0:01:36.560 --> 0:01:39.800 my head who that is that's doing it, and I'm like, 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:43.840 that is an adolescent male pumpkin snatcher. And I even 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:45.440 tell my neighbors I'm gonna catch him and I will 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.360 cut his hands off. So I'm out and I'm trying 0:01:48.360 --> 0:01:51.760 to bring up a trail cam right to get some 0:01:52.320 --> 0:01:55.320 to get a picture because ever molescent the pumpkin patch 0:01:55.880 --> 0:01:58.320 and I'm talking to neighbors about it, and I'm like 0:01:58.760 --> 0:02:00.480 being so slide that I don't want to my trail 0:02:00.560 --> 0:02:05.720 came out in the daylight, thinking that he's so such 0:02:05.760 --> 0:02:10.360 a sly burglar that he noticed. Right, So it's getting 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:12.799 dusk and the kind of thing about, you know, it's 0:02:12.880 --> 0:02:15.560 time to have the trail cam ready, and my phone rings. 0:02:15.639 --> 0:02:17.840 Is the neighbor He's like, there's a little old lady 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:21.800 out in your garden. And by the time I get 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:24.880 out there, she's gone. But I go down the road 0:02:24.919 --> 0:02:26.080 and they tell me where she's had it, and I 0:02:26.120 --> 0:02:28.880 catch her down the road and I'm like, ma'am, ma'am, 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:32.560 and it's dark out, you know, like you just in 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:39.400 my garden, uh, stealing pumpkins. Not me, honey, I really 0:02:39.480 --> 0:02:42.400 you're like you're telling me you weren't just over my 0:02:42.440 --> 0:02:46.240 house getting pumpkins. Just walks off, but nothing to say 0:02:46.280 --> 0:02:51.440 to me about it. Well, not long after that, the 0:02:51.520 --> 0:02:54.680 green beans start coming in and I opened my garage 0:02:54.720 --> 0:02:58.640 door and I just see some legs squirting across in 0:02:58.720 --> 0:03:00.760 front of the door at the doors rights up, and 0:03:00.800 --> 0:03:02.400 I followed down the road and she's walking on her 0:03:02.440 --> 0:03:04.840 all the big handful of big handful of green beans. 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:08.320 And then I don't even say it, because now I'm like, 0:03:08.360 --> 0:03:10.200 I'm not even say anything to her. The other day 0:03:10.240 --> 0:03:11.600 I'm on the phone, not the other day. A little 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:13.400 while ago. I'm on the phone. I look out the 0:03:13.400 --> 0:03:16.639 window and now it's perfectly daylight, and she's out harvested carrots. 0:03:16.919 --> 0:03:19.040 So I yelled down, and the kids are like they 0:03:19.080 --> 0:03:21.880 call it comfort thief lady. And I yelled down, like 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:23.960 she's out there right now, take carrots. And someone yells 0:03:23.960 --> 0:03:26.560 out the door like, ma'am, we'd appreciate if you would 0:03:26.639 --> 0:03:29.640 just ask if you need some vegetables. She looks up 0:03:29.680 --> 0:03:31.320 at the door, takes those carrots, throws him on the 0:03:31.360 --> 0:03:37.320 ground and walks off down the road. No way, just blatant, wow, blatant, 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:41.440 like like vegetable thievery. I wonder she has like some 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:44.400 some type of Alzheimer's and she thinks it's the patch. Yes, 0:03:44.600 --> 0:03:47.640 she thinks it's the pea patch, and I yeah, I 0:03:47.640 --> 0:03:49.800 think she may wake up the morning be like why 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:53.000 is there a green pumpkin in the kitchen? But yeah, 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:54.920 so so that's why I've been trying to teach. I've 0:03:54.920 --> 0:03:57.800 been trying to instruct my kids. I'll tell him, it's 0:03:57.840 --> 0:03:59.600 it's like you get in the hard stuff to explain, 0:04:00.040 --> 0:04:03.360 you know sometimes old people and I'm like really struggling 0:04:03.400 --> 0:04:04.880 for a way to put it, and this is not 0:04:05.040 --> 0:04:07.280 the best way to put it, but like sometimes old 0:04:07.320 --> 0:04:11.160 people will become more like they'll become like kids kind 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.120 of just in some like bad stab It's sort of 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:16.560 trying to explain it to a four year old and 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:19.159 the seven year old was like, yeah, but kids don't 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:22.080 get the walk around the middle of the night. I'm okay, 0:04:22.080 --> 0:04:27.360 it's like a different kind of kid. Yeah. Um So, 0:04:27.960 --> 0:04:36.159 Eduardo Garcia, uh, how can you explain the electrical charge? 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:41.360 You were struck by like in an involved like whatever 0:04:41.400 --> 0:04:46.599 way is best to explain it. Yeah, so what I 0:04:46.680 --> 0:04:48.960 know about it? And you know you'll have to forgive 0:04:48.960 --> 0:04:52.719 me that too many people's amazement, I um, you know, 0:04:52.800 --> 0:04:55.800 my enthusiasm was really curbed to dig into too many 0:04:55.800 --> 0:04:59.640 of the details. I think, Um, you know, two thousand eleven, 0:05:00.120 --> 0:05:03.479 I was suffered an electrical injury that nearly took my life, 0:05:03.760 --> 0:05:10.720 you know, October nine and October October two eleven, and 0:05:10.760 --> 0:05:12.360 I get, you know, to get to your question though, 0:05:12.480 --> 0:05:17.480 is that I was so immersed in survival for so 0:05:17.600 --> 0:05:20.800 long posts that that day that by the time I 0:05:20.839 --> 0:05:23.560 finally found my feet months down the road and twenty 0:05:23.560 --> 0:05:27.880 one surgeries later, I just didn't you know, maybe it's 0:05:27.880 --> 0:05:31.640 a like a cocktail mix of denial and then just uh, 0:05:31.680 --> 0:05:36.640 you know, lack of interest to go revisit that moment 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.239 that I that I I just I wanted. I didn't 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:43.359 needed that many details about what it was. But what 0:05:43.440 --> 0:05:45.800 I can't say is that it's back up and tell 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.080 the story what happened. So I was trying to start 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:54.400 out with a tilting details. So so, um, you can't 0:05:54.400 --> 0:05:56.120 cut me off. I get too long winded because I 0:05:56.600 --> 0:06:01.960 like to. I like to spin spin a story, but um, yeah, 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.560 well the short of it is that I, you know, 0:06:04.640 --> 0:06:07.039 i'd been h I've been working in the yachting industry 0:06:07.040 --> 0:06:10.440 as a chef for ten years, and starting two thousand 0:06:10.480 --> 0:06:13.440 and ten, I had basically decided I was going to 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:16.640 leave yachting um and try to get back to southwest 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:19.919 Montana near the Bowsman area where I'm from, where I 0:06:19.920 --> 0:06:22.599 was raised, and I was gonna start a food brand, 0:06:22.800 --> 0:06:25.880 started a food company called Montana Max, which I did, 0:06:26.320 --> 0:06:30.200 and I was going to start filming a cooking show 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:33.000 for television and I was going to call it Active Ingredients, 0:06:33.720 --> 0:06:36.600 and um, you know, so I had a I had 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:39.599 a like a pilot for the show I had, you know, 0:06:39.680 --> 0:06:43.920 I was ripped by William Morrison Endeavor as talent had 0:06:43.920 --> 0:06:47.279 a production team at a Denver Citizen Pictures UM that 0:06:47.360 --> 0:06:49.320 was going to pitch this show, and the Food Network 0:06:49.400 --> 0:06:53.039 wanted first right of refusal, you know, to basically sign 0:06:53.080 --> 0:06:56.440 the show. And uh, life was good. Life was good. 0:06:56.560 --> 0:06:58.719 No longer working on the yacht. I was home in Montana, 0:06:58.800 --> 0:07:00.479 just finished it. But you like working on the yachts 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:03.080 though for for ten years, but you can only sleep 0:07:03.080 --> 0:07:05.320 in a bed half the size of this table for 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.760 so long, you know, um, just traveling your ass. Yeah, 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.640 you know. And I was thirty. I wanted to have 0:07:10.640 --> 0:07:12.600 a family, and I wanted to move home, and and 0:07:12.600 --> 0:07:16.760 and just get back to a mountain, a western rocky 0:07:16.760 --> 0:07:20.400 mountain way of life. You were thinking about having a family. Yeah, 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:23.720 I don't know that. Yeah, at thirty, I didn't have 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:27.560 a girl yet. But you know, um, and and so 0:07:27.640 --> 0:07:29.680 I find myself home for two thousand eleven, I just 0:07:29.760 --> 0:07:31.840 left the yacht and I'm working hard on in Montana, 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:35.080 mex with with with you know, my business partners and 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:39.280 co founders and um. Because your father's from Mexico. Dad, 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.480 Dad's from Mexico, from the Yucatan Cancun area. You ever 0:07:42.520 --> 0:07:45.760 been down there many times here in February. So he's 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:47.880 from East Lads, which is that little island right off. 0:07:48.120 --> 0:07:50.640 I know that island. We're going out to a different island. 0:07:50.720 --> 0:07:52.800 But yeah, well yeah, I spent a shipload of time 0:07:52.840 --> 0:07:56.120 down there. Yeah. So Dad is a fifth generation um 0:07:56.240 --> 0:07:59.200 lobster and shark fisherman and cheek lettle so like from 0:07:59.240 --> 0:08:02.600 his dad's side, what cheek a farmers, So they like 0:08:02.680 --> 0:08:06.800 basically no, it is low gum, but it's how it happens. Yeah, 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:10.360 machete cheek lay trees, so like like saping in Upper 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:14.920 New England, they're bleeding trees for their gum. Is there right, Yeah, totally, 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:17.880 but I don't know. Sometimes kind of surprised. I'm glad 0:08:17.920 --> 0:08:21.840 I could bring it to this table, you know, real quick. 0:08:22.080 --> 0:08:24.680 When I got out of school, when I got out 0:08:24.680 --> 0:08:29.760 of regular college, we are went down there number of times. 0:08:29.840 --> 0:08:32.520 Sometimes we find the cancoon and go south and just 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:36.040 sleep on sleep on the beaches. Yeah. Fish yeah, fish, bone, 0:08:36.080 --> 0:08:38.240 fish and all kinds of stuff. That's that's kind of 0:08:38.240 --> 0:08:40.319 fell in love with that place. Man, it's a long time. 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.319 But now we're talking about back in the late nineties. Yeah, 0:08:42.320 --> 0:08:45.360 I know that's super pretty area. You know that side 0:08:45.400 --> 0:08:48.120 note and nat realist and if we digressed too far, 0:08:48.200 --> 0:08:52.400 but um, that area the Yucatan Peninsula and what's now 0:08:52.440 --> 0:08:56.680 called sort of like the Riviera of the Yucatan Riviera. Yeah, 0:08:56.720 --> 0:08:58.840 it's back in like the late sixties and the Mexican 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:02.280 government was basically you know, throwing darts at a board 0:09:02.280 --> 0:09:05.199 and looking for their next Acapulco. You know, that was 0:09:05.280 --> 0:09:07.320 kind of in its heyday, and they knew or just 0:09:07.440 --> 0:09:08.920 coming into it, and they knew, you know, like we 0:09:09.000 --> 0:09:12.600 maybe ten years out, what's the next destination place in Mexico, 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:16.880 And so they chose can Kun and Cancun at the 0:09:16.920 --> 0:09:24.040 time was oil wells, oil wells and palm plantations for 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:28.000 palm oil, right and uh and in fishing villages. That 0:09:28.080 --> 0:09:29.760 was it, you know, I mean it was so remote 0:09:29.760 --> 0:09:32.000 that you know, my dad and I may have shared 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.959 the story when when we cooked on did that meat 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.840 Eater show like two years ago with you, but um, 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:39.320 you know, my dad was so you know that they 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:41.880 would have this life where they would live in the estuaries, 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:45.640 the Mangrove estuaries of of that peninsula, and you know, 0:09:45.679 --> 0:09:48.480 there's no noise, there's no air traffic, there was no airport. 0:09:48.920 --> 0:09:50.880 You could hear a fish jump, you know in the 0:09:50.920 --> 0:09:54.040 lagoon and know what fish it was. It's just that 0:09:54.120 --> 0:09:57.559 was the lifestyle down there. But um, anyway, that that's 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:01.040 how Cancun became kind of MTV sen of frogs. God, man, 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:02.720 if I could go back to time and find whoever 0:10:02.760 --> 0:10:04.920 that guy had that idea, oh my gosh, and just 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:07.040 not like do anything real bad to him, but just 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:09.040 so some interrupted him at the moment he would have 0:10:09.040 --> 0:10:11.640 had the idea, Oh yeah, they, I mean they my dad, 0:10:11.800 --> 0:10:14.200 you know they they have deer down there they have 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:20.320 called which are pheasant, like a pheasant of the um turkeys, 0:10:20.400 --> 0:10:23.679 whole thing. But alright, so back in Montana anyway, back 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:26.640 in Montana, getting after a food brand, UM, pitching a 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:31.079 TV show, UM, had big plans, big plans. Yeah, I 0:10:31.080 --> 0:10:36.600 mean basically I just left crazy successful yachting career a 0:10:36.640 --> 0:10:38.400 decade and I should have, you know, I just not 0:10:38.400 --> 0:10:40.400 should have. I could have stuck with that, and that 0:10:40.440 --> 0:10:43.440 would have been a career, retired, you know, another ten years. 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:47.360 And um, look you can make money private scheffing. Well 0:10:47.360 --> 0:10:48.880 you don't have any expenses because you're living on the 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:50.720 boat and you have someone buying your Q tips and 0:10:50.720 --> 0:10:52.840 everything else, you know, Um, so you can put it 0:10:52.840 --> 0:10:56.520 all away and and friends you put it into whatever. Um. Anyway, 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:59.800 So a longtime friend, this is how I got to 0:11:00.000 --> 0:11:02.280 this injury as a longtime friend asked if I would 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:06.240 cater his wedding into September. September in New Mexico. I said, great, 0:11:06.440 --> 0:11:08.520 it's from Montana, and he wanted Elk on the menu. 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:12.440 So perfect. I'll hunt, I'll hunt the elk. I'll do 0:11:12.559 --> 0:11:14.199 get a beat tag in an a tag and I'll like, 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.319 you know, bring down all the all the good steak 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:18.200 meat I can and make a many here we go. 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.800 And I ended up having handed of course, you know, 0:11:22.160 --> 0:11:23.760 not getting an elk. So I had to borrow it 0:11:23.800 --> 0:11:26.640 from all kinds of friends and family and got enough elk, 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:30.439 pulled off the wedding, got home like the twenty nine September, 0:11:30.520 --> 0:11:33.000 and now I was like committed, I need to shoot. 0:11:33.480 --> 0:11:35.960 I need a harvest to elk to pay all my 0:11:36.000 --> 0:11:40.559 buddies back their backstraps and whatever else. And so there 0:11:40.600 --> 0:11:42.440 I was. And so on the morning of October nine, 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.760 I've been hunting hard looking for elk and m the 0:11:45.880 --> 0:11:49.560 opening day. No, it's archery season still. Yeah, So archery 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:51.720 you know, goes to like the fourteenth usually, and so 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:54.440 I'm in the talent archery the ruts like high gear. 0:11:54.520 --> 0:11:56.439 It's amazing. It's the time you want to be out 0:11:56.440 --> 0:12:02.080 in Montana, you know. And uh, And that morning I 0:12:02.120 --> 0:12:05.440 had a herd bull nice six by with about thirty 0:12:05.440 --> 0:12:10.280 cows pass at I don't even know forty yards and 0:12:10.720 --> 0:12:14.440 the cows were bogging quick and the bull I kept 0:12:14.480 --> 0:12:16.319 couch or chirping, so I got that. I at least 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.720 got the bull to stop. And I'm at full draw 0:12:18.960 --> 0:12:22.200 looking at this bowl, and I'm thinking, no, I borrowed 0:12:22.400 --> 0:12:24.520 a two year old cow off my buddy, and I'm 0:12:24.559 --> 0:12:26.600 gonna return a two year old cat like I'm gonna 0:12:26.600 --> 0:12:28.880 return to the same type of meat give or take, right, 0:12:29.200 --> 0:12:32.400 not a stringy herd bowl. Most people in the right 0:12:32.440 --> 0:12:34.840 minds would not pass up a thirty yard quartering away 0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:37.959 broadside shot at a milk at a bull out right. Um, 0:12:38.200 --> 0:12:43.280 So I let it go, and I it's like nine am. 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:44.520 Now I'm thinking, you know what, I'm gonna go to 0:12:44.559 --> 0:12:46.400 this other spot. I'm gonna go down the road now. 0:12:46.720 --> 0:12:49.080 And then so I parked my car at the trailhead 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:53.040 and ended up three miles up kind of right where 0:12:53.040 --> 0:12:56.080 the stage foothills meets kind of high alpine dug for 0:12:56.080 --> 0:13:00.800 a timber and um, yeah, I came across what looked 0:13:00.800 --> 0:13:04.640 to me like a fifty gallon oil drum cut in half, 0:13:05.240 --> 0:13:09.680 you know, and um, inside it, I saw, um what 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:14.240 I noticed was like some claws and black fur. And 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.080 this is in the middle of a tight drainage with 0:13:16.360 --> 0:13:20.360 tall grass and stage and you know if you yeah, okay, 0:13:20.360 --> 0:13:24.839 I gotta stop you. Yeah, because I'm an introduced the thing. 0:13:24.880 --> 0:13:31.360 Now there I realized I haven't had made this clear. Um, 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:36.760 I've seen this place because there's a new documentary are 0:13:36.800 --> 0:13:42.960 called Charge Yes, which is your life story framed around 0:13:43.000 --> 0:13:47.320 this freak injury, in your recovery from this freak injury. Right, 0:13:47.360 --> 0:13:50.040 So I've seen this place because you visited a couple 0:13:50.040 --> 0:13:53.199 of times in the movie. Yeah. Yeah, Uh what what 0:13:53.320 --> 0:13:58.800 landownership is this? Public land? Public land? That's I never understood. Okay, 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.080 so no, no, pick it back. But I kept looking 0:14:01.080 --> 0:14:03.680 at it being like, so it's miles from the road 0:14:03.720 --> 0:14:05.240 from the trail, Yeah, it's three miles in. This is 0:14:05.280 --> 0:14:07.200 good because we're getting back to the original question, which 0:14:07.240 --> 0:14:12.760 was was it so um public land? Yeah, it's right 0:14:12.800 --> 0:14:16.960 on the Yellstone National Park border public land. Um. You 0:14:16.960 --> 0:14:20.360 know it's super hot spot for elk hunting, especially in 0:14:20.400 --> 0:14:22.600 the rut because you know, the tactic is the bugle 0:14:22.640 --> 0:14:25.160 amo out of the park, you know, getting across the line, 0:14:25.760 --> 0:14:28.840 super bear rich zone. So you know, um kind of 0:14:28.840 --> 0:14:32.720 your your head's turned. Yeah, you know this is down 0:14:32.720 --> 0:14:35.280 in Beatty gulch and and anyone that's ever heard the 0:14:35.280 --> 0:14:38.640 word beatty gulch for southwest Montana Region three, you're like, oh, yeah, 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.040 you know, every year there's someone some calling for a 0:14:41.040 --> 0:14:44.000 bear situation, and so my head is turned on. So 0:14:44.000 --> 0:14:47.600 when I see this, um, this can two things I 0:14:47.600 --> 0:14:50.120 think of. I'm thinking it's old mining so that the 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:52.000 town of Old Rich an old mining camp. So I 0:14:52.040 --> 0:14:54.160 grew up in that area. Grew up in Corwood Springs 0:14:54.200 --> 0:14:56.880 like a mile down the road, so all of the 0:14:56.960 --> 0:15:00.320 hills around there littered with old mining debris sheep can ups. 0:15:00.720 --> 0:15:02.720 So it's not uncommon to being the Racking Mountain West 0:15:02.760 --> 0:15:05.840 and see an old enameled bowl or an old cast 0:15:05.880 --> 0:15:08.800 iron stove or right, so yeah, man, like yeah crazy 0:15:08.800 --> 0:15:11.840 stuff or like heavy equipment that was obviously driven in 0:15:11.880 --> 0:15:13.680 but now the roads are gone and you kind of wonder, 0:15:13.720 --> 0:15:15.120 like how they got it in there, but you realize 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.200 it's just right. It's been collecting to brief a hundred 0:15:17.240 --> 0:15:20.080 fifty years. And or a container for assault block for 0:15:20.200 --> 0:15:22.880 Kali's you know, And so that's what I think. So 0:15:22.880 --> 0:15:25.680 I immediately think that's what it is. And and then um, 0:15:25.960 --> 0:15:27.800 and then I see the claus and I'm and I'm 0:15:27.840 --> 0:15:29.640 I'm hunting. You know, I have my gear on me, 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:31.960 and I pulled out a knife basically just to pop 0:15:31.960 --> 0:15:35.640 a clar two off right, go home, Because there's a 0:15:36.000 --> 0:15:38.320 what looks to be an inverted barrel, an open top 0:15:38.360 --> 0:15:42.120 barrel coming out of the ground. Yeah, and in the 0:15:42.120 --> 0:15:45.400 middle of nowhere like like corrugated sort of metal appearance. No, 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:47.000 that's what you see in the film because that's what 0:15:47.040 --> 0:15:50.840 they protected it with. So think of just a rusty 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:55.800 old oil drum bear and and to say dead bear. 0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.240 So remember People Magazine didn't write about this, and they 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.440 were like, and Garcia, I have a baby bear. And 0:16:01.440 --> 0:16:03.120 then I had always hate mails like why would you 0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:04.840 stab a baby bear? Like it may it sound like 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.440 I killed this bund like I killed this bear. So 0:16:07.520 --> 0:16:09.520 let's let's just make this. Let's just make this really 0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:12.400 clear that this is the kind of story, this is 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.600 the kind of start with enough complexity that I wouldn't 0:16:14.640 --> 0:16:16.960 let People Magazine even come kind of close to this. 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.320 You know, I believe I'm in many mistakes in the 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:23.000 post aftermath of my injury, but um, stay out of 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:24.920 the baby. You're talking to some jack guys who never 0:16:24.920 --> 0:16:27.960 really as in a bear or a barrel in their Yeah, 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.040 and he's not even writing anything down. You're like, all right, 0:16:30.040 --> 0:16:33.480 where's your imagination going with this, mamory. Remember what the 0:16:33.480 --> 0:16:38.320 barrel is again? You know? So it was it's actually 0:16:38.320 --> 0:16:40.160 this So when I say baby bear, now, this is 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:42.000 good to know when I say it. Now, I'm six 0:16:42.080 --> 0:16:45.120 years later, so I have all the facts now. But 0:16:45.200 --> 0:16:48.160 at the moment, all I know is that there's you know, 0:16:48.200 --> 0:16:51.920 there's like basically four little two inch claws but in 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:55.080 the damn barrel, inside this barrel, and there's and there's 0:16:55.160 --> 0:16:57.160 like a you know, a little mess of for, like 0:16:57.160 --> 0:17:00.080 a two pay you know, there's a scrap of for 0:17:00.200 --> 0:17:02.480 and a claw you know, sitting in his Like there's 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:07.520 a hundred pound animal in this barrel. It was was desated. 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:11.280 It was mummified, man, totally mummified. Right. So I'm like, 0:17:11.320 --> 0:17:13.600 I know the damn story, but I didn't know. Yeah, 0:17:13.640 --> 0:17:15.920 and you never told me otherwise. I just I guess 0:17:15.920 --> 0:17:18.119 you just jumped to the idea that it's a full on, 0:17:19.000 --> 0:17:22.720 it's dead freaking bear yesterday. Yeah. Well, and and here's 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:25.280 this is this is an opportunity that I relish because 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:29.200 most interviews like People magazine or whatever else. You've got 0:17:29.280 --> 0:17:31.720 a sound bite, and and you don't have time. No 0:17:31.760 --> 0:17:33.879 one wants to hear your description of what this bears. 0:17:33.920 --> 0:17:35.920 They want to know how hard life's bend sense then, 0:17:35.960 --> 0:17:38.560 and what are you doing? And all these things? So yeah, 0:17:38.600 --> 0:17:40.400 so you know, I want to know about the bear. Yeah, 0:17:40.440 --> 0:17:44.040 you're looking at like a handful of fur, some dry, twisted, 0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.840 sinewed skin and like a few claws. So I pull 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:48.760 a knife out of my right off my right hip. 0:17:49.080 --> 0:17:51.440 I put it in my left hand, and you haven't 0:17:51.480 --> 0:17:54.000 touched it with your right You haven't touched it yet. No, 0:17:54.280 --> 0:18:01.840 And I'm going in with both hands and just that's it. 0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:06.320 Major major warmth on the back of my head, super 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:10.760 high frequency orchestration going on in my in my mind, 0:18:10.840 --> 0:18:14.400 you know, within my brain sound and uh and then 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:20.440 curtain craw, just black. That's that's my memory of the injury. 0:18:20.600 --> 0:18:22.560 It should have been just dead is dead. Should have 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:25.760 been just dead is dead. Yeah, And if you all 0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:27.720 took a nap underneath the tree, you'd wake up and 0:18:27.760 --> 0:18:29.960 you see the sky and you see tree tops. And 0:18:29.960 --> 0:18:33.159 that's my next memory, followed then by the sound of 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:37.000 gravel under my feet. So what happens, what we know, 0:18:37.080 --> 0:18:38.680 and no one else is with me. So this is 0:18:38.720 --> 0:18:41.840 just what I can remember, is that I clearly woke up, 0:18:41.920 --> 0:18:45.040 my eyes opened, I got up. I left all my 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:47.399 stuff there. I left my phone, I left my keys, 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:50.639 I left everything, and I got up to my feet. 0:18:51.000 --> 0:18:54.400 And then I wake up on this road, walking downhill, 0:18:55.240 --> 0:18:58.760 and I remember hearing my boots on gravel. I remember 0:18:58.840 --> 0:19:01.560 hearing a western metal chirp, and I start to see 0:19:01.560 --> 0:19:03.680 the valley floor in front of me heaving and kind 0:19:03.680 --> 0:19:06.359 of coming into focus. And it's at that point that 0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:08.520 I start putting back the peace, you know. I start like, 0:19:08.880 --> 0:19:10.800 where am I? What am I? What am I doing? 0:19:11.080 --> 0:19:13.960 And then I recall I'm hunting, or I was hunting today. 0:19:14.320 --> 0:19:18.359 I recall I parked at Beaty Gulch. I recall I 0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.199 saw this thing. And then it just happens quick like, 0:19:21.280 --> 0:19:23.800 oh yeah, I reached out. It was gonna take a claw. God, 0:19:23.840 --> 0:19:27.040 I heard like a noise and heat, and and then 0:19:27.080 --> 0:19:29.480 I like, look, and I noticed that my left hand 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:32.480 is just crutched up against my torso and my hand 0:19:32.560 --> 0:19:36.760 is super black, totally burnt, and I have um, you know, 0:19:36.800 --> 0:19:39.760 you can see sinew and bone and really kind of gnarly. 0:19:40.440 --> 0:19:43.000 It looks like just a charred the handles holding the knife, 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.640 it looks like a chart turkey foot. The other hand 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:48.720 just has sort of a black, you know, blowout scar 0:19:48.800 --> 0:19:50.520 on top of it, and otherwise it's not messed with. 0:19:51.040 --> 0:19:52.919 And I realized, because you don't know what you're you 0:19:53.000 --> 0:19:57.080 had no idea that you had just scorched no chest 0:19:57.119 --> 0:19:59.080 down and burnt your All I can see is my 0:19:59.080 --> 0:20:01.800 two hands, you know. And then I so then I 0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:04.479 then I get it. I'm like, all right, I mean, 0:20:04.480 --> 0:20:06.479 I'm thirty years old. I've heard enough stories out there 0:20:06.480 --> 0:20:08.840 in the world, like I got electrocuted. I am walking 0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:13.520 to save my life right now, and um and and 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:15.400 and and and as I so, then I take note 0:20:15.400 --> 0:20:17.080 of that, and then i'll and then I shift. So 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:20.359 I'm like, then I like fully present Lucid as Lucis 0:20:20.400 --> 0:20:22.640 I can be. I'm like, I am wanting to save 0:20:22.680 --> 0:20:26.720 my life. I am mortally wounded right now, like I am, 0:20:26.760 --> 0:20:30.840 I am headed for help. I have and and I 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:33.520 realized that in my right hand, I have bear spray 0:20:33.760 --> 0:20:36.680 out of its holster in my hand. That's like a 0:20:36.680 --> 0:20:40.280 phenomenal thing. Just like understand that I had in leaving 0:20:40.280 --> 0:20:43.560 the scene. I had already like started going downhill to help, 0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:46.240 and I pulled bear spray out because somehow in my 0:20:47.200 --> 0:20:49.919 state of unconsciousness, remembered I'm in a bear rich environment. 0:20:49.960 --> 0:20:51.639 So I have bear spray in my hand ready to go, 0:20:52.320 --> 0:20:54.639 and that's how I by myself. I make a sling 0:20:54.720 --> 0:20:56.720 for my left hand out of the two elk calls 0:20:57.200 --> 0:21:00.480 at dangling around my neck and I started walking and 0:21:00.760 --> 0:21:03.320 I remember I hit the valley floor. Two miles later, 0:21:03.720 --> 0:21:05.760 I see a buck antelope, which I remember seeing on 0:21:05.760 --> 0:21:07.920 the way up, you know, And so it's coming back 0:21:07.960 --> 0:21:11.840 to me, like, oh, I know where I'm at, and 0:21:11.840 --> 0:21:13.760