1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,400 Speaker 1: All right, third hour of Clay and Buck gets going 2 00:00:03,480 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: right now, everybody, thank you for being here with us. 3 00:00:06,240 --> 00:00:11,920 Speaker 1: And something that got well, honestly, just moved down the 4 00:00:11,960 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: news priority list because of some of the huge things 5 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: that have been going on this week. But I want 6 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: to spend some time to talking about it because it 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:23,280 Speaker 1: is one of those broad conversations about politics and America 8 00:00:23,320 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: and what's going on today that answers a lot of 9 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: questions right now and also gives us a sense as 10 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: to what the future is going to look like, what 11 00:00:32,640 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: is going on when it comes to men and women 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:44,559 Speaker 1: and their views of life, specifically for Gen Z adults. Now, 13 00:00:44,680 --> 00:00:49,199 Speaker 1: all of our boomers boomers listening, we love you. This matters, 14 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,640 Speaker 1: as you know, because these are your kids or grandkids 15 00:00:52,680 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: in many cases, and they shall inherit this republic of ours. 16 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: And there's some really stark differences. This is from NBC 17 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: News polling data about people eighteen to twenty nine years old. 18 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 1: So that's Gen Z. I am a gray beard millennial. Clay, 19 00:01:15,319 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 1: what are you? Silent generation? You're some other You're not 20 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: a millennial. 21 00:01:18,959 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: I am the youngest Gen x'jo. I am the youngest 22 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 2: generation member of the generation that has saved America by 23 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,040 Speaker 2: supporting Dona more than any other generation. 24 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: My older brother who is also of your generation, you 25 00:01:33,600 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 1: guys are the same age. Mason very quick to point 26 00:01:36,360 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: out that Gen X probably has the best generation rep 27 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:43,840 Speaker 1: right now. It's certainly in the media world like everyone's 28 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: like Gen X just getting it done, all cool and 29 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: you know, collected, uh, millennials, we got some rough stuff 30 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: because we complained a lot about the housing and mortgage 31 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: meltdown stuff in two thousand and eight and what that 32 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: did to our careers. But let's let's look at the 33 00:01:57,280 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 1: gen Z situation right now, because Clay, perhaps this is 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 1: something you've addressed in your upcoming book. Pauls ye men 35 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 1: men are trending in a very clear direction in that generation. 36 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:15,079 Speaker 1: So young men, young adult men right now. This is 37 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: from NBC News data. Young men who voted for Trump. 38 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,920 Speaker 1: So gen Z eighteen to twenty nine, who voted for Trump. 39 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 1: What is important to a personal definition of success? Thirty 40 00:02:29,400 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: four percent of them said having children, thirty three percent, 41 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: financial independence, thirty percent, fulfilling job career, twenty nine percent, 42 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 1: being married. And then they go into some other things, 43 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:44,800 Speaker 1: doing what you want, being grounded spiritually, twenty four percent. 44 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: Got to get those are rookie numbers on spiritual grant, 45 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: but you know, we got to get that up a 46 00:02:48,040 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 1: little bit, making community proud, all this stuff, right, women 47 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 1: who voted for Harris, this is what was really stark. 48 00:02:57,160 --> 00:03:00,359 Speaker 1: So remember young men who vote for Trump, young women 49 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: who vote for Harris. That's what we're looking at here. 50 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,960 Speaker 1: Fifty one percent said fulfilling job or career. That's the 51 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:11,240 Speaker 1: number one thing by far, fulfilling job, having money to 52 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:15,440 Speaker 1: do what you want, forty six percent emotional stability, which 53 00:03:15,480 --> 00:03:17,080 Speaker 1: a lot of these women gotta work on, I gotta 54 00:03:17,120 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: tell you. Thirty nine percent financial independence, thirty two percent 55 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: have it using your talents, thirty seven percent owning a home, 56 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:32,440 Speaker 1: twenty percent having children. Clay and being married were tied 57 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 1: for them at the very bottom of the list at 58 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: six percent. This is a vision of two paths for 59 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: the genders in America as defined by political affiliation today 60 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,400 Speaker 1: or separated by political affiliation today. All these women who 61 00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 1: are voting for Harris, who are in their twenties don't 62 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: care at all about family formation, which is stunning. Honestly, 63 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 1: you see that data, It is stunning. 64 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: I think it's a sign and this is probably gonna 65 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: get clipped, so prepare yourselves for the headlines. 66 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: I love it when he does this. Where's media matters 67 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 1: go for it? 68 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's a sign that women are have 69 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:18,559 Speaker 2: been sold to mass delusion, a lot of young women. 70 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: And let me explain why. The only reason to. 71 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,919 Speaker 2: Want, in my opinion, a fulfilling job and a career 72 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: is so you can afford. 73 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:30,799 Speaker 1: To have a family. 74 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 2: I look, there are relatively few people whose careers are 75 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: so important that they change the world. Okay, if you 76 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: told me right now, Hey, Elon Musk, Yeah, he might 77 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 2: not be a great dad. I think he's an incredible 78 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:50,039 Speaker 2: and he might be a great dad. I'm not saying 79 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:52,720 Speaker 2: it's a negative, but I'm saying like his career is 80 00:04:52,760 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: so important potentially to the future of the civilization that 81 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:00,760 Speaker 2: I can say, Okay, that seems like a real good 82 00:05:01,040 --> 00:05:04,760 Speaker 2: use of his time. You would want, I think people 83 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 2: who are supreme geniuses. If you could, you have two kids, 84 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: or you could solve cancer, I would submit to you. 85 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: Ideally you could do both, but if you had. 86 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:18,080 Speaker 2: To choose, curing cancer would be a better societal benefit 87 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:22,840 Speaker 2: than you having two kids. Most people have jobs, though 88 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 2: not to cure cancer or to solve all the issues 89 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: that Evon Musk is trying to solve, but just to 90 00:05:29,720 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: be able to have the resources to have children. 91 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,040 Speaker 1: It's a means to an end to pay bills. That's 92 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 1: why you get paid for it. If it were fun, 93 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have to pay you for it. Now, some jobs, 94 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,360 Speaker 1: there's like Clay and I are lucky. We both love 95 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: our jobs and we get paid for it. But it 96 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: took a long time to get to a place where 97 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 1: that was the case. And this is the reality for 98 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: a lot of women play right now. I saw this 99 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 1: from my graduating class at Amherst, Okay, at Emher's College. 100 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: There are all these women who at that time, we're 101 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: going into management consulting like McKenzie bain remember where Mitt 102 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:12,880 Speaker 1: Romney was, or they went into investment banking. That is 103 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:16,680 Speaker 1: a situation where you are going to work eighty hours 104 00:06:16,720 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: a week for years and years and years to make money. 105 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:24,240 Speaker 1: You are not curing cancer, you are not. All of 106 00:06:24,279 --> 00:06:27,360 Speaker 1: the women that I knew who went into that dropped out. 107 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 1: All of them dropped out because that is not the 108 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: way that they want to spend their lives. But society 109 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,640 Speaker 1: had set them up for this society had convinced them 110 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: that this is what they should do. 111 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 2: I also think, and again, these are eighteen to twenty 112 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,600 Speaker 2: nine year olds women who voted for Harris, men who 113 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,599 Speaker 2: voted for Trump. I also think it is likely to 114 00:06:49,680 --> 00:06:53,760 Speaker 2: be the number one complaint of the Harris voting women 115 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:57,480 Speaker 2: that they can't find good men worth dating and having 116 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 2: families with. But all of the young men who are 117 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:04,760 Speaker 2: Trump voters actually want to get married and have kids, 118 00:07:05,320 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 2: and the women don't want to. And here's the other 119 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,040 Speaker 2: thing about this that I think is indicative of having 120 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 2: been sold. 121 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: A false bill of goods. 122 00:07:12,280 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 2: And by the way, eight hundred and two two two 123 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:16,880 Speaker 2: eight a two, maybe you are in this eighteen to 124 00:07:16,880 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 2: twenty nine year old female group and you want to react, 125 00:07:20,760 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 2: maybe you are in the male group. But what is 126 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 2: interesting to me about this as well, Buck, is the 127 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 2: women should be the ones focused on having children because 128 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 2: and I don't want to throw anybody into a full 129 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:36,560 Speaker 2: panic here, but a twenty nine year old woman who 130 00:07:36,680 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 2: hasn't gotten married and hasn't had kids has a biological 131 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 2: clock to worry about that a twenty nine year old 132 00:07:44,560 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 2: man does not have in the same way to worry about. So, 133 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 2: if anything, these should be flipped buck because women, because 134 00:07:53,120 --> 00:07:57,320 Speaker 2: of biology, have to think about having children at younger 135 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 2: ages than men do. 136 00:07:59,120 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: If you're over thirty five, it's a geriatric it's officially 137 00:08:02,400 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: medically a geriatric pregnancy. That's what they call it, a 138 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: geriatric pregnancy. And the risks factors go up all across. 139 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 1: They should tell people this in schools. By the way, 140 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: I didn't learn this stuff until I was an adult, 141 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, I didn't know all the things, 142 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: all the risk factors that increase. 143 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:19,160 Speaker 3: Now. 144 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying that that people can make their own 145 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: life choices. Some people just want to have a career, some 146 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: people don't have a family. It's not about denying anybody 147 00:08:25,320 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 1: a choice. It's about giving them the facts and the 148 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: reality of what is likely and what is true in 149 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: general or true in the aggregate about these things. And 150 00:08:33,880 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 1: for most women, I mean, I'll put it this way, Clay, 151 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: most guys that I know, if they weren't trying to 152 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: date and orget, you know, date and get married, would 153 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: work a lot less hard Yea. They'd spend a lot 154 00:08:47,040 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: more time in leisure and whatever. But they want to 155 00:08:49,280 --> 00:08:53,559 Speaker 1: build something they'll want to be providers. There's something instinctive 156 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: and instinctual for men about this. For women, they are 157 00:08:57,320 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: generally not always generally set up differently for what will 158 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: be a successful and happy life path, but the influences. Now, 159 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:10,360 Speaker 1: you grew up in a more traditional Americana place than 160 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: I did, so I can speak from the New York 161 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:15,640 Speaker 1: City perspective, which is the same in Los Angeles, and 162 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 1: very similar in Chicago, and very similar in d C. 163 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: And you know these urban centers where the women of 164 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: my generation were all told you need to be you 165 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: need to compete with men in the workplace, you need 166 00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 1: to spend the same kind of hours. You need to 167 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: put your career first and figure out family later. And 168 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: I have seen it now that I'm in my forties. 169 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 1: This has resulted in life path disappointment and in some 170 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: cases devastation for a lot of very talented and you know, 171 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: wonderful young women who now can have families or never 172 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:48,679 Speaker 1: had a family, and they want to. I'm not talking 173 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:50,719 Speaker 1: to the people that don't want to. They want to, 174 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 1: but they got their timelines mixed up. I see this 175 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 1: women who vote for Harris Thing and none of them 176 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: care about being married or having children, they're going to 177 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: change their So for what you can be the first 178 00:10:01,840 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 1: female VP at the marketing firm at age thirty five 179 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 1: or at age forty, You think that that's guys generally 180 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 1: want to do that so they can have a wife 181 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: and kids that they can provide for. Yes, what you 182 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:21,559 Speaker 1: are aspiring to to be a suit in middle management 183 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: is what people usually do so they can have kids. 184 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 2: And when I look at this, I just think that 185 00:10:29,559 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 2: young women have been sold a bill of goods on 186 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: what the goal of life is. Because if your goal 187 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 2: is just to a mass job title and then die 188 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 2: by yourself, okay, that seems kind of lonely. It seems 189 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: not very fulfilling. And I just think that a lot 190 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:54,680 Speaker 2: of young women and I think, frankly, Buck, this is 191 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: what you're seeing these women they get older, they deeply 192 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:04,560 Speaker 2: inside this is me psychoanalyzing, They deeply inside reject some 193 00:11:04,720 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 2: of the choices that they made to give up a 194 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 2: family to be to your point of VP and a 195 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 2: bland accounting firm or something. No offense to everybody out 196 00:11:14,840 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 2: there working in accounting, but I don't think people are 197 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 2: doing cartwheels into the accounting office every day because they 198 00:11:19,480 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 2: feel like they're changing the world in such a positive way, 199 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 2: and they make politics their life's focus because they have 200 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,560 Speaker 2: to pour their energy and their soul and their them 201 00:11:33,640 --> 00:11:38,119 Speaker 2: and vigor and vitality into something and it's not motherhood 202 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:41,480 Speaker 2: and instead it's Donald Trump as Hitler. I thought about 203 00:11:41,520 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 2: this gen Z thing when I saw Trump goes to 204 00:11:43,840 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: a steakhouse and there's just a bunch of chicks that 205 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 2: show up and scream a chant that he's Hitler to him, 206 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:52,680 Speaker 2: And you can watch Trump walk over and kind of 207 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,840 Speaker 2: look at him like, you chicks are crazy, Like you 208 00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:58,040 Speaker 2: can kind of see it, as I guarantee you, in 209 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 2: his head, he's like, what one of these girls doing, 210 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:04,920 Speaker 2: Like how is your life's ambition to show up when 211 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 2: somebody's eating at a steakhouse and call him hitler? 212 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,280 Speaker 1: I think you've given up the plot on life. And 213 00:12:10,320 --> 00:12:13,040 Speaker 1: I think you're a lot of a lot of projection. 214 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: The psychologists would call it of their frustration that they 215 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: externalize in order to avoid dealing with the realities of 216 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: the choices that they have made. So Trump is Hitler. 217 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 1: Gives them something to feel bigger than themselves and like 218 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: they they're a part of something because a lot of 219 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: them the choices that they have made. Don't let them 220 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:37,240 Speaker 1: feel that way day in and day out, you know. 221 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: I mean I tell my friends this, and my family 222 00:12:39,920 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: is play at the most basic level, not getting into 223 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: the spiritual and you know, being a Catholic who's trying 224 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:47,280 Speaker 1: to now become actually more of a of a real 225 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 1: Catholic and going back to the church, but just a 226 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: on a basic day to day level. I just think 227 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: that take care of your people is my basic life philosophy. Obviously, 228 00:12:56,040 --> 00:12:58,679 Speaker 1: your family first and then the people around you, and 229 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: that can keep you really busy if you're actually doing that. 230 00:13:02,280 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: If you're taking care of your people, you really don't 231 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,680 Speaker 1: have time like those sad people we saw in DC 232 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: at the inauguration to be out in the freezing cold 233 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: for six hours shouting about how Trump is hitler with 234 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:15,880 Speaker 1: nobody listening. You know. Yeah, But if you don't have 235 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:17,959 Speaker 1: that and you're not taking care of you, And I 236 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 1: don't just mean having kids, and some people can't have kids, 237 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,200 Speaker 1: and we're sensitive to that, of course, but the people 238 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:26,679 Speaker 1: around you making decisions to be meaningful in their lives 239 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 1: and to have that consideration and that discipline in your 240 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 1: day to day. That's hard showing up with your purple 241 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:37,480 Speaker 1: hair and you're screaming and your you know, Trump is 242 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 1: is is the Antichrist, although they probably wouldn't put it 243 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: that way. He's hitler. That's easy, that's just that's just narcissism. 244 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:47,200 Speaker 2: Here's a question for you as we go to break 245 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:48,959 Speaker 2: and I'd be curious to hear from people again. This 246 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: is an NBC News poll eighteen to twenty nine year 247 00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 2: old voters what they care about male and female? How 248 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 2: many women are lying? Because when I saw these numbers, 249 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, how many women feel bad to say, hey, 250 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 2: what matters to me is getting married and having kids 251 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,559 Speaker 2: because they feel like they're turning their back on feminism 252 00:14:10,960 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 2: if they say that, and so they're just lying because 253 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,720 Speaker 2: they think other people want to hear. It's crazy to 254 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:20,800 Speaker 2: me that fifty one percent of people would say my 255 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 2: career is my top priority. 256 00:14:23,320 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 1: Uh, I don't know. Man. I had when before I 257 00:14:26,040 --> 00:14:27,720 Speaker 1: met my wife and the love of my life, I 258 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: had I had women bail on dates, but I'd asked 259 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: them out on because they found out that I was 260 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:35,000 Speaker 1: a trumper. So they said, look, you may be incredibly 261 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 1: charming and have amazing hair, but you voted for Trump, 262 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: and I have to back out of this. Now. They 263 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: didn't say that first part, but that's what they were thinking. 264 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:45,120 Speaker 1: So I'm just saying some of these ladies are crazy. 265 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,920 Speaker 2: I think some of them are crazy. I think women 266 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: are more susceptible to worrying about what others think in 267 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 2: general than men are, and so I wonder whether they're 268 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:56,600 Speaker 2: being honest in their responses. 269 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:58,800 Speaker 1: Let's get some gen Z to away in on this one. 270 00:14:58,880 --> 00:15:01,680 Speaker 1: Gen Z Clay and buck Land out there or parents 271 00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: of how about that. We'll take your thoughts on this. 272 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,280 Speaker 1: But look, you know what I'm doing. Actually, right after 273 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: the show true story, I'm going to be pulling out 274 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: some steaks from Good Ranchers. 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I 307 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,160 Speaker 2: do write a ton about this because I've been thinking 308 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,640 Speaker 2: about it a lot, and ultimately, the disconnect between men 309 00:16:46,680 --> 00:16:49,800 Speaker 2: and women is leading to no babies. 310 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: Right. 311 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:56,000 Speaker 2: The overall population in Western civilization is collapsing. Women and 312 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 2: men are not having babies. You gotta have two point 313 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 2: one male or female in union ideally in order to 314 00:17:02,920 --> 00:17:07,320 Speaker 2: replace yourself. Right, that's not happening. And when we are 315 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:09,120 Speaker 2: not having babies, I think a lot of people sit 316 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 2: back and say, Okay, what is causing this? And tons 317 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:13,919 Speaker 2: of you are weighing in. I write about it a 318 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:19,320 Speaker 2: lot in balls my very under trying to think under 319 00:17:19,359 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 2: the radar title about gender roles and how they impacted 320 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 2: the election and how Trump went on and won. You 321 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,400 Speaker 2: can find it, you can pre order it, but we're 322 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 2: going to take a bunch of your reactions because we 323 00:17:30,560 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 2: are flooded with people out there who are saying yes. 324 00:17:34,040 --> 00:17:38,760 Speaker 2: And I know every generation thinks, hey, things are different. 325 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 2: For us, things are more challenging. The data actually reflects 326 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 2: that people are not getting together and they're not having 327 00:17:44,800 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 2: babies on a level that we've never seen in the 328 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 2: history of America before. So I think this is a 329 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 2: thing and we will talk about it when we come back. 330 00:17:51,760 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 2: In the meantime, if you do have babies and young kids, 331 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 2: you might be like me and you don't want to 332 00:17:57,520 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: give them a cell phone until they get a little 333 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,639 Speaker 2: bit older. Fourteen was our age when we gave our 334 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 2: kids cell phones. 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If you're a 355 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 1: guy you voted for Trump, Yeah, you want a career, 356 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:12,640 Speaker 1: but family, super important, kids, super important. Women who voted 357 00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: for Kamala Harris according to these numbers, and Clay said, 358 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,160 Speaker 1: maybe they're just saying what they should, which is there's 359 00:19:17,160 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: probably some of that, but the numbers are I mean, 360 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: they care more about where they're getting their nails done 361 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 1: than whether they're ever going to be married or have kids. 362 00:19:23,680 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: Based on this data, it is, it is outrageous stuff. 363 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: They care a lot about their about their career. All right, 364 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:33,400 Speaker 1: we have Stacy first up here. You are a mother 365 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,199 Speaker 1: of twelve in Minnesota. Did I get that right? You 366 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: are a mom of a dozen? 367 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 4: Yeah, yep. 368 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 1: Wow, that is incredible. So what age did you have 369 00:19:42,520 --> 00:19:43,280 Speaker 1: your first baby. 370 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:48,439 Speaker 4: I would have been twenty four when I had my 371 00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 4: first son. 372 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 2: And so you have continued and had baby that that's incredible. Okay, 373 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,400 Speaker 2: So how many of those are daughters? 374 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,119 Speaker 4: We have seven girls and five boys. 375 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:01,679 Speaker 2: Okay, so I'm fascinated. What are you telling all of 376 00:20:01,720 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 2: these kids and what do you see from them as 377 00:20:04,880 --> 00:20:08,920 Speaker 2: it pertains to gender identity, gender roles, all these different things. 378 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 2: Uh that that you are you're an expert. If you 379 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:13,960 Speaker 2: got seven of one and five of the other. 380 00:20:14,840 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 4: Well, yeah, so you know, we just point them to 381 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 4: the Lord for first and foremost. He's the one who 382 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 4: He's the one who gave him to us, and we're 383 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:26,679 Speaker 4: just they're just on loans, and so we need to 384 00:20:26,880 --> 00:20:29,919 Speaker 4: raise them to go into the world and to be 385 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 4: able to know the truth, which is only found in 386 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 4: His word, and also to you know, to be able 387 00:20:36,800 --> 00:20:39,600 Speaker 4: to decipher, to be able to think critically, because obviously 388 00:20:40,200 --> 00:20:42,280 Speaker 4: nowadays that's kind of become a lost art. 389 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: Can I ask you, I'm curious about this. I want 390 00:20:46,359 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: to ask about the pressure if your your girls feel 391 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: pressure to delay family formation in order to do more 392 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: career stuff. Maybe you can tackle that one first, But 393 00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: I also just have to throw in there. Do you 394 00:20:57,480 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 1: guys travel in like a like a motorcade? Like how 395 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: do you do that? You do you have a few suburbans, 396 00:21:02,480 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: you know, like that when the president moves. I'm just curious. 397 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question. We have an express fan. 398 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 4: So yeah, it's it's like a mini buss basically, is 399 00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,959 Speaker 4: kind of you know what you would can call it. 400 00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: I would say, that's fun, that's funny. You have all 401 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: your kids on the bus together, like, that's that's a 402 00:21:19,119 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: good time, right. 403 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,840 Speaker 4: And and obviously we have two that just got married 404 00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 4: this past summer, so you know, they're starting to leave 405 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 4: the nest and and and they're definitely looking forward to 406 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 4: having their own children. 407 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 1: So yeah, but do you do you do your girls 408 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:33,880 Speaker 1: feel like there's a lot of pressure on them socially 409 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,119 Speaker 1: to delay you know, do you ever pick that up 410 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: from them that they feel like, oh, you know, at 411 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: first I have to make VP at the at the 412 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,760 Speaker 1: accounting firm before I could even think about getting married. 413 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: Or not so much, no, not so much. 414 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 4: No, they they embrace the role as as a woman, 415 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,440 Speaker 4: you know, and that doesn't and that doesn't have to 416 00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,720 Speaker 4: be competing with men. And I think that's where our 417 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 4: culture has gone wrong. We feel like we have to 418 00:21:56,280 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 4: compete with men, which we all have our different hells 419 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 4: and abilities and gifts. And why why don't we embrace, 420 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,680 Speaker 4: you know, being a woman, because I mean, I don't 421 00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 4: sure don't want to be a man like I wouldn't 422 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 4: want his responsibilities in certain areas. And he can't have children, right, 423 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 4: we know biologically that a man can't have a child. 424 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 4: So like there's a reason God gave us different roles. 425 00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:22,480 Speaker 4: And I mean, I'm not saying there's different situations for 426 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 4: different people, but I think the more we fight against 427 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 4: the way we are created, that's why we're in the trouble. 428 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 4: We're in this world. 429 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: Thank you, Thank you so much, family as well, and 430 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,120 Speaker 1: that's that's incredible. And uh and Elon would be would 431 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:38,280 Speaker 1: be proud of you for helping to repopulate the world. 432 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,280 Speaker 1: You're doing more than your part, So God bless and 433 00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: thank you so much for calling in. Uh let's twelve kids. 434 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:49,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's an incredible accomplishment. Darcy in Houston, she said 435 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:52,240 Speaker 2: she's got a couple of gen Z girls. Darcy, what 436 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:54,440 Speaker 2: do you see. 437 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:57,880 Speaker 3: I have two gen z girls. I have a senior 438 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: in high school and a senior in college. And we 439 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:05,840 Speaker 3: have raised both of our girls to understand that you 440 00:23:05,920 --> 00:23:09,040 Speaker 3: don't have life balance in the day to day. You 441 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:13,760 Speaker 3: have life balance in the cycle of life. So you know, 442 00:23:13,800 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 3: I was advanced maternal age buck on both of our girls, 443 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,520 Speaker 3: and so I like I had a bit of a career. 444 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: Then I stepped away. I took time to be with 445 00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 3: our kids. I homeschool them. The oldest graduated from homeschool. 446 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 3: She's now Texas A and M University College of Civil Engineering. 447 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 3: And now I haven't gone back to work full time, 448 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 3: but I work on our investments in our real estate 449 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:43,160 Speaker 3: portfolio and we have three passive investments. We have numerous 450 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 3: single family homes and we're looking at an appartment complex. 451 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,399 Speaker 3: So you have to understand that the balance of life 452 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 3: is day to day. I mean, I've been a university 453 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:57,280 Speaker 3: professor overseas, We've lived in four different countries. It's life 454 00:23:57,320 --> 00:24:01,440 Speaker 3: has been an adventure, and both of our girls look 455 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 3: forward to achieving a balance that fits who they are 456 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,719 Speaker 3: and who that eventual partner husband in their life is. 457 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 2: Do you think that they're more challenged in their generation 458 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 2: than you were in yours. With balancing that. 459 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely. And the reason that I say that is 460 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 3: because I am Clay. I'm older than you. You're a 461 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:29,439 Speaker 3: young buck in my world. I was born in sixty 462 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:33,400 Speaker 3: nine and dating, I think the huge challenge right now 463 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 3: is dating. My oldest had a boyfriend, but in my 464 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,639 Speaker 3: youngest everything is groups. And I'm sure you see that 465 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 3: with your boys. Everything is a group date. Very seldom 466 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:49,199 Speaker 3: do you have that one on one and even if 467 00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 3: it's a one on one boyfriend girlfriend, there's still a group. 468 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 3: Everything is group, and so that opportunity to get to 469 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,480 Speaker 3: know someone individually is lost in that generation, and that's 470 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:06,159 Speaker 3: something that's really hard for parents to overcome. 471 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:08,359 Speaker 2: Thank you for the call, Buck. I don't know if 472 00:25:08,359 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 2: I've told you this. One of my kids, I won't 473 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:15,359 Speaker 2: say which one was talking to a girl and I said, well, 474 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: you should just go get pizza with her, and I 475 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,640 Speaker 2: think this is emblematic of their generation in general. He 476 00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,199 Speaker 2: was like just the two of us and I was 477 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 2: like yeah. It was like they like to call me 478 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:33,160 Speaker 2: an unk. It was like I had given the most 479 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 2: unk advice of all time. 480 00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,600 Speaker 1: Was like, well, you know, instead. 481 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 2: Of just talking on the phone and not actually seeing 482 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 2: each other in person. 483 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 1: You should just go have pizza together. And I just 484 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: remember just the two of us. 485 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:51,920 Speaker 2: To her point, it is all group gatherings and or 486 00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,920 Speaker 2: not gathering at all because they're on their cell phones. 487 00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,560 Speaker 2: And here's the other thing. And I know this has 488 00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: become huge all over the country. Everyone I knew when 489 00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 2: you turn sixteen years old, this may be a little 490 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 2: bit different for you in New York City because you 491 00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 2: guys got out and about without cars. Everybody I knew. 492 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 2: It wasn't just when you turned sixteen. It was your 493 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: oldest best friend who could suddenly take you in a 494 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 2: car and you could go to the movies, or you 495 00:26:22,119 --> 00:26:23,919 Speaker 2: could go to the mall, or you could go to 496 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:26,240 Speaker 2: a fast food or restaurant, or you could go to 497 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:30,200 Speaker 2: a sporting event together to go watch. It was a 498 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,800 Speaker 2: level of liberation that we all desperately craved and counted 499 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 2: down the days until it could happen. We all knew 500 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,520 Speaker 2: when somebody was going to take their driver's test. We 501 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 2: all knew when somebody was getting their permit. Nobody cares. 502 00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,440 Speaker 2: Kids today are like, eh, I could get a license 503 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 2: or I could not. Now, partly I think it's a 504 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 2: reality of uber and the fact that we're in different 505 00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:02,240 Speaker 2: communications and so all of that factors in, I think 506 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 2: in a significant way. But that in and of itself, 507 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,920 Speaker 2: I think is a sign of how the culture has 508 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:15,640 Speaker 2: changed in a significant way. And let's say a commercial 509 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 2: break here. We'll come back in a moment and continue 510 00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 2: to take some of your calls. 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And obviously the show 532 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 2: is ending right now, so it's unlikely that we are 533 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 2: going to know officially what has happened. But Charlie Kirk, 534 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 2: who is a friend of ours, he's been on the show, 535 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: runs Turning Point USA. He was doing a rally at 536 00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 2: Utah Valley and I'm trying to get all these facts right. 537 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 2: Obviously it's happening right now. Utah Valley University near Provo. 538 00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: Video shows that there were shots fired there and he 539 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 2: you know, you probably have seen the incredible work that 540 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 2: Charlie has done. He goes to all these different college 541 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:22,800 Speaker 2: campuses and does these question and answer sessions which have 542 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 2: motivated so many young people, and he was doing one 543 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: at Utah Valley just in the last couple of minutes, 544 00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 2: there's videos shots being fired. 545 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 1: Buck. 546 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,280 Speaker 2: We're trying to follow it in real time, so we 547 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 2: are updating all of you. 548 00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:40,000 Speaker 1: We don't have any confirmation beyond the video that there 549 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 1: were shots and it looks like he was hit. We 550 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 1: don't know how bad this is. Absolutely, I honestly, I 551 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: feel like I'm gonna throw up. It's's I'm praying for 552 00:29:54,520 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: Charlie right now. Yeah. 553 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 2: Look, the videos are up. There's a huge crowd on 554 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,920 Speaker 2: Utah Valley's campus and we're trying to follow this in 555 00:30:07,920 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: in real time. He is sitting as he has done 556 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 2: on these megaviral TikTok events for a long time. I mean, 557 00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 2: there's probably a thousand people or more at this event 558 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: on the center of campus, and you can hear what 559 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 2: sounds like gunshots going off and then again their videos 560 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: being posted now here. 561 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: Look, I think if the if you can pray, this 562 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:40,360 Speaker 1: would be a good time. Yeah, he's Charlie is hit 563 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:42,600 Speaker 1: in the video, he's hit. Look, Trump got hit of 564 00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 1: the neck and Trump was okay. I don't know. I 565 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: don't know what we don't none of us know whether 566 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,880 Speaker 1: Charlie's We don't know. I can't say he is a 567 00:30:53,480 --> 00:30:57,200 Speaker 1: you know, he built a massive organization with Turning Point. 568 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: He helped Trump win this last election. He's very outspoken. 569 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: I know Charlie, uh personally, I mean he's he's got 570 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:11,720 Speaker 1: a wife and two kids. That's what I was gonna say, Young, 571 00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 1: he's an awesome guy. Uh again, I mean you can 572 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,240 Speaker 1: all understand. I mean this is uh. I just look, 573 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:24,960 Speaker 1: I pray, I pray for the country, and now this 574 00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: is this is gonna take us into a very dark place. 575 00:31:29,480 --> 00:31:31,800 Speaker 1: If if if this, I mean, I just I'm hoping 576 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: we're gonna get We're gonna get reporting here any minute. 577 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: That Charlie is it's gonna be okay. He's you know, 578 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: in the you know, he's probably you know, taking the hospital. 579 00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 1: I'm hoping we're get reporting that Charlie's okay. That's all. 580 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know what to say beyond that. 581 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 1: I mean, he got shot and then the neck. You know, 582 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 1: we know Trump got Trump got hit in the ear. 583 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:53,240 Speaker 1: I said the neck before Trump got hit in the ear. 584 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:55,320 Speaker 1: Charlie got hit in the neck. If it was a 585 00:31:55,360 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: superficial wound, there's a good chance. But there's obviously carotid artery, 586 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: and you know, this is a I don't know what 587 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: caliber he was. I can't believe we're sitting here and 588 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: this is happening as we're on the show right now, 589 00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:16,840 Speaker 1: and Clay, it's yeah, Fox's reporting, CNN is reporting, We've 590 00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:17,680 Speaker 1: seen the videos. 591 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:23,480 Speaker 2: Look, this is I honestly, it's tough when you're dealing 592 00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 2: with these live situations. I can't help but think as 593 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 2: he is a young dad, and for someone of his age, 594 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,600 Speaker 2: he has had as profoundly positive of an impact as 595 00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 2: someone could have, in my opinion, in the country. 596 00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:54,120 Speaker 1: He was enormously powerful in the best ways with young Americans. 597 00:32:54,840 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: And look, the demons didn't like it, the hard left, 598 00:33:02,400 --> 00:33:06,680 Speaker 1: the the the tear you know, the domestic terrorists of 599 00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:10,400 Speaker 1: Antifah and all these day he was a target as 600 00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:13,760 Speaker 1: we obviously now are seeing the results of it. He 601 00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: would travel with security, he would have pretty substantial security 602 00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: with him. But if somebody is willing to spend the 603 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:22,760 Speaker 1: rest of their life in prison and you go to 604 00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:25,719 Speaker 1: a live public event, it's very hard to have. Look 605 00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: at the President of the United States got shot last summer, 606 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: as we all recall, so it's very hard to have 607 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,880 Speaker 1: perfect security. But in a situation like this, Clay with 608 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: Charlie who again you and I know I've spoke at 609 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,840 Speaker 1: one of his events. I I mean, Charlie is you 610 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: know he sat in my living room when I lived 611 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 1: in DC and we were sketching out ways for the 612 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: MAGA movement to win back the youth. And I was 613 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: like this, this kid is going to do. You know, 614 00:33:54,840 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 1: this is now seven or eight years ago. I was like, 615 00:33:57,240 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: this kid's gonna do amazing stuff. And I just I 616 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: just can't be I mean, look, we are still. I'm 617 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: just sitting here holding on. I'm sorry. I've never had 618 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 1: to react to I've had to react to terrorist incidents before, 619 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:13,120 Speaker 1: live in real time. I've never reacted to a friend, 620 00:34:13,400 --> 00:34:16,520 Speaker 1: uh and somebody who is in very much our business 621 00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:21,719 Speaker 1: and in our world being shot. You know, I look 622 00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:24,600 Speaker 1: Trump that when when Trump was hit, Clay, I remember, 623 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: I remember I called you, I called my family and 624 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 1: I called you right away. But we knew within a 625 00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:31,000 Speaker 1: few minutes he was okay. He put that fist up 626 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:33,480 Speaker 1: in the air, so that you know, the trauma there 627 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: was was, thank god, was short lived. Right, We knew 628 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,680 Speaker 1: Trump was okay quickly. I don't know what Charlie's status is, 629 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,440 Speaker 1: and I don't know when we're gonna know. I'm I'm 630 00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: hoping right now that we'll see a report come up 631 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,520 Speaker 1: any second that he's in the hospital and he's stable. 632 00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:50,279 Speaker 1: That's that's just I mean, I am praying for that. 633 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:53,160 Speaker 1: I'm praying for that because Charlie's a dad, and he's 634 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: a husband, and he's a and he's a honestly just 635 00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,279 Speaker 1: a just a great American and it's doing incredible things. 636 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 1: Also think this will take the country into a really 637 00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,920 Speaker 1: horrible place if if the worst happens here. So I 638 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 1: am I'm actually I'm worried for all of us in 639 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:14,279 Speaker 1: a way. And uh, I'm just sitting here praying for 640 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:18,000 Speaker 1: Charlie and his family. I mean, do we have guys, 641 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 1: do we have any updates on anything? Let me just 642 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:27,040 Speaker 1: continue buck with this guy is tell me he's in 643 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: the hospital and he's okay. 644 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:31,799 Speaker 2: Fox News said he's been taken to a hospital on 645 00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:36,959 Speaker 2: their official Fox News account. I don't think we're gonna 646 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,399 Speaker 2: have any certainty before we leave today, which is why 647 00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 2: I would say for those of you out there, pray. 648 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 2: There are lots of videos on social media. You and 649 00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:54,160 Speaker 2: I are both dads. He has young kids. This is 650 00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:58,240 Speaker 2: a super young guy. Little kids, little kids, really little kids. 651 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:02,560 Speaker 2: He's just a fantastic guy who has put his heart 652 00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,719 Speaker 2: and soul into the country. And the reason on a 653 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: college campus, the reason he's on a college campus is 654 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 2: to try to talk to young people and make them 655 00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,600 Speaker 2: aware of what an exceptional, incredible place America is and 656 00:36:14,640 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 2: how fortunate we are all to be here and to 657 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,960 Speaker 2: have a forum for free speech where you can show 658 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:24,239 Speaker 2: up and agree or disagree with him and have public debates. 659 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: And I just I look. Pray, pray for Charlie right now. 660 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,440 Speaker 1: We don't know anything other than he's been hit and 661 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: he may be able to pull through and be okay. 662 00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 1: Pray to God right now, all of you. We'll talk 663 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 1: to you tomorrow. We'll have updates for you, but that's 664 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 1: where we are for today. We're all just thinking about 665 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: Charlie Kirk. I'm gonna just be Clay. We're gonna be 666 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:47,879 Speaker 1: burning off the phone, trying to find out as soon 667 00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:48,319 Speaker 1: as we can. 668 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 2: Prayers, Love all you guys, Hug the people you love, 669 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,240 Speaker 2: Kiss him to see tomorrow.