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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast

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Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: It's almost famous podcasts.

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Speaker 3: And today we're getting the chat with a woman we

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Speaker 3: fell in love with. She can dance, she can ride

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Speaker 3: a unicycle, and she worked on the bomb Squad for

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Speaker 3: Crying Out Loud.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: She's beyond cool. Today we're chatting with Golden Bachelor's Peg Munson.

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Speaker 4: All right, Peg is on the line, guys, and I

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Speaker 4: want to ask our bomb diffuser, like do you do

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Speaker 4: mission impossible like things?

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Speaker 1: Oh?

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Speaker 5: My god, which one you guys?

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Speaker 4: I know, the most dramatic, the most Vegas.

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Speaker 6: Oh, the most Vegas is we had a love triangle

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Speaker 6: go back in Vegas in the nineties.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a love triangle. I'm telling you.

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Speaker 6: So it was some guy was dating the chick, but

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Speaker 6: the chick had the boyfriend. But the husband was involved,

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Speaker 6: So I think it was the boyfriend was suspicious and

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Speaker 6: they cut The boyfriend caught them, found out she was married.

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Speaker 6: He worked at the Luxor hotel. You guys could google this.

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Speaker 6: It's all over.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's on the internet.

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Speaker 6: But in long story short, the guy got pissed off

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Speaker 6: hired a bomb maker out of South America. So the

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Speaker 6: guy made a bomb. So when the guy came out

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Speaker 6: of the Lexor Hotel to finish his shift, he saw

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Speaker 6: a seven to eleven coffee cup on his car, right,

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Speaker 6: just a normal seven eleven coffee cup.

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Speaker 5: So the guy picked it up and as he picked

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Speaker 5: it up.

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Speaker 6: It's a pressure plate. Picked it up, boom, it went

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Speaker 6: off and killed him. There was a pipe bomb inside

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Speaker 6: of the coffee cup. So yeah, so that.

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Speaker 5: Was my it was.

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Speaker 6: That was uh yeah, that was a very interesting let's

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Speaker 6: put it that way. That was a very interesting call.

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Speaker 6: So it was a love triangle gone bad.

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Speaker 5: You guys.

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Speaker 3: Lesson for all of our listeners and myself included, if

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Speaker 3: you find some foreign object sitting randomly in a place,

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Speaker 3: I guess, don't touch.

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Speaker 5: No, don't touch it, don't touch it. We've had we've

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Speaker 5: had baby.

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Speaker 6: Diapers bags, you know, bags like you know baby bag

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Speaker 6: diapers that used to carry when you were you know

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Speaker 6: you got a kid diaper bags, No, thank you.

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Speaker 5: Diaper because it's been a long time. Can you tell

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Speaker 5: a diaper bag explode?

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Speaker 6: You know, we've had briefcases explode, backpacks explode, you know,

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Speaker 6: coffee cups explode. Yeah, they'll they'll figure out where to

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Speaker 6: put a bomb anywhere. So yeah, yeah, don't touch it.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to be on edge. I'm going to be

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Speaker 2: on edge.

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Speaker 4: You're going to me too. I would never think not

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Speaker 4: to move a cup from my yeah, hold of my car.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, don't piss me off, you guys.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you've got creativeness. Hey, you dm us saying that

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Speaker 3: you wanted to come on and speak and share the truth.

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Speaker 3: Why was it so important for you to share the

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Speaker 3: truth with us?

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Speaker 5: Well, you know what, there's been a lot of things

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Speaker 5: going on.

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Speaker 6: Cindy said this, this one said that, that one said

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Speaker 6: yeah this, And it's kind of like remember that game

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Speaker 6: that you guys we played when we were kids. Everybody

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Speaker 6: sat in a circle and you started out with the

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Speaker 6: person saying I had a peanut butter and jelly salafant,

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Speaker 6: thank you telephone, And the time you got back around,

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Speaker 6: it was like you're you're riding a pink elephant, you know.

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Speaker 5: Yeah? Serious?

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Speaker 6: Right, So you know, look, I love all the girls,

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Speaker 6: I love Cindy, but you know there's some things that

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Speaker 6: had happened and I had just gotten to look, I'm

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Speaker 6: a really really you know, I love deep and I

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Speaker 6: love hard. I really do and I'm a protector. Look

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Speaker 6: what I did for a living. I protect people. If

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Speaker 6: I love you, I will literally give my life for you.

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Speaker 5: I really will. That's just my nature. And I will

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Speaker 5: take so much.

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Speaker 6: But then there's a point to where I'm like, Okay,

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Speaker 6: that's enough, that's enough, that's enough. And there just was

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Speaker 6: some things that were said though just they were not true.

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Speaker 6: They just and you guys are going to have Mail

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Speaker 6: on on Monday, and so you guys, can you know,

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Speaker 6: talk to him about those things because I don't want

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Speaker 6: but I know, you know, there's things that happened that

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Speaker 6: point to where it's like, you know, live and let

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Speaker 6: live whatever. I'm at that point where honestly it really

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Speaker 6: doesn't matter. I mean her, her experience on the show

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Speaker 6: is her experience. Mail's experience on the show is Mel's experience,

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Speaker 6: and my experience on the show is my experience. There

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Speaker 6: are some things I can't talk about because of the contract.

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Speaker 6: And you guys understand because you come from this world

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Speaker 6: that I just you know, I cannot say, so I'm

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Speaker 6: just gonna leave it at that. You know, I did

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Speaker 6: text her at Thanksgiving and I asked her just to please,

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Speaker 6: you know, stop talking, because, you guys, it started to

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Speaker 6: hurt my heart. I'm gonna be honest, it hurt my heart.

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Speaker 6: It's like, why is she saying this stuff? She and

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Speaker 6: what really bothers me the most, you guys, is that

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Speaker 6: And you guys come from the Bachelor world. I got

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Speaker 6: to spend twenty four hours with Meil, she got fifteen

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Speaker 6: hours with Mail. How the hell do you know somebody's

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Speaker 6: character at fifteen hours or twenty hours? You just don't

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Speaker 6: so to speak about somebody's character or my character.

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Speaker 5: You don't know us.

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Speaker 6: You know, you don't know me, and you really don't

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Speaker 6: know Mail. You know, you really don't And that's the truth.

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Speaker 6: And that's why I asked her that whole text at Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 6: It was like, Hey, I hope you're having a beautiful

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Speaker 6: time with you and your family. Can you please just

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Speaker 6: talk about your own experience. It got to me, It

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Speaker 5: You don't know him and you don't know me, so

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Speaker 5: please don't talk about our characters when you really don't

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Speaker 5: know us. You know that.

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Speaker 6: Fifteen hours that you got to spend with somebody, that's it.

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Speaker 5: That's all you know. And come on, you know, it

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Speaker 5: takes a long time to get to know somebody. So

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Speaker 5: that's what that was. And in a nutshell, you guys.

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Speaker 4: Was it our podcast that she said something specifically that

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Speaker 6: Well what happened was She's just she kind of went

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Speaker 6: on all these podcasts, there's like several of.

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Speaker 5: Them, and I just, you know what, Honestly, in my heart.

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Speaker 6: I'm gonna be really honest with you guys, I just

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Speaker 6: wish she would have had a little bit more grad

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Speaker 6: attitude and humility and grace. You know, look, we all

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Speaker 6: went on this show. You know, we all knew what

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Speaker 6: we signed up for, right, we all did. There's going

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Speaker 6: to be one person at the end. And I always

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Speaker 6: said in all my interviews, her idea of love was

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Speaker 6: just different than my ideal of love and different from Mells's.

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Speaker 5: Idea of love.

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Speaker 6: She truly wants to get married, and God bless her,

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Speaker 6: she has every right to be married. But as sixty

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Speaker 6: two years old and at seventy sixty seven years old,

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Speaker 6: we know better. We are like, that's not reality. I

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Speaker 6: don't want to be another Bachelor Nation statistic.

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Speaker 5: I really don't, you know. It's like, oh, I love you,

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Speaker 6: On one knee, and then you know, a week or

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Speaker 6: I didn't want to get married because I don't know

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Speaker 6: how am I going to marry you when I don't

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Speaker 6: even know you? I mean to me, to me, that's insanity.

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Speaker 6: I don't want you proposing to me when I don't

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Speaker 5: Are you know, I've got to like you.

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Speaker 6: I've got to know you before we take that next step,

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Speaker 6: and that takes time.

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Speaker 3: The interesting thing I'd love for you to elaborate a

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Speaker 3: little bit on your what you said there is her

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Speaker 3: idea of love was different than your ideal love.

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Speaker 2: What did you mean by that?

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Speaker 5: Well?

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Speaker 6: When when Melan I had that opportunity to go into

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Speaker 6: the fantasy suite with no cameras and no mics, you know,

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Speaker 6: that was a really good opportunity to really find out

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Speaker 6: And that's where I'm at come on, I'm sixty two

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Speaker 6: years old, you guys. I've been engaged, I've been married.

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Speaker 6: You know, we have life experience. And I don't live

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Speaker 5: I just don't.

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Speaker 6: I live in the reality, in the real world. And

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Speaker 6: I don't want to do it for TV. I wasn't

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Speaker 5: Me, you know.

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Speaker 6: And I told mail you guys at hometowns, I said

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Speaker 5: He said, look, you know, at the end, I really

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Speaker 6: And I looked at him and I said to him,

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Speaker 6: who you are, because not only you know, he's there

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Speaker 6: to find a girl, you know, a gal. I'm there

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Speaker 6: to find a guy. But are you the right guy

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Speaker 6: and that opportunity you guys, that we had at the

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Speaker 6: Fantasy Suite, that was That's what did it for us.

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Speaker 5: That's what kind of put us over the edge.

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Speaker 6: To really have that time without TV land around and

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Speaker 4: You mentioned about like her having fifteen hours and like

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Speaker 4: you not knowing her and her not knowing you. I

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Speaker 4: could understand you saying that you don't know the lead

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Speaker 4: in that amount of time on the main show, but

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Speaker 4: I feel like you do get to know the girls

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Speaker 4: and that you're living with, especially if you're the two

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Speaker 4: that get to the end, so you still feel like

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Speaker 4: you didn't really get to you didn't really know.

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Speaker 5: Come on, you guys.

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Speaker 6: No, that was we got what, uh ten days in

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Speaker 6: the house with each other, and.

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Speaker 4: You know how precison shorter than ours.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yah, that's right exactly, And it was I mean,

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Speaker 6: we got ten days in the house together maybe and

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Speaker 6: when we when that whole is like it was about okay,

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Speaker 6: let's say I'll give it fourteen days. But we're doing things.

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Speaker 6: Everybody's going on dates. You guys, you know how it

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Speaker 6: works with production, It's like this they've guided it down

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Speaker 5: Your go go, go go, And so do you really

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Speaker 5: And That's what I'm looking for.

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Speaker 6: And that's the conversation that Melan I had together in

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Speaker 5: We really don't know. There's no reason to be married again.

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Speaker 6: I don't need your money, I don't need your house,

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Speaker 6: Why why do we have to succumb to the pressure

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Speaker 6: Look what we've been doing, you guys, have you been

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Speaker 6: Why can't a love story be free? Why can't you

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Speaker 6: So you know this constraint of that you've got to

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Speaker 5: And that's just normal natural.

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Speaker 5: Look what happened to Gary and Teresa. How well did

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Speaker 6: Out, they were engaged and got married and divorced three

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Speaker 5: So I think that's a really good point, you know.

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Speaker 6: And I think for the Goldens we have we get

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Speaker 6: We have been through some shit in life, you know

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Speaker 5: It's not even really about a wedding.

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Speaker 6: It's about you showing up every single day and being

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Speaker 6: look at it from that viewpoint, and you know, one day,

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Speaker 6: that's okay too, you know. And I think the Goldens

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Speaker 5: I really do. And that's a really good point.

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Speaker 6: And that's something that I think going forward with the

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Speaker 6: But our relationship is going strong and it's fun and

441
00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 6: it's exactly what I wanted, and it is exactly what

442
00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,440
Speaker 6: he wanted at this point our life in our sixties.

443
00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,159
Speaker 4: You guys make a lot of sense, especially as we

444
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:07,920
Speaker 4: hear you talk today together. You make a lot of

445
00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:13,959
Speaker 4: sense together. You're very logical, you're very grounded. And I

446
00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:19,640
Speaker 4: was just thinking about how Cindy was just totally you guys.

447
00:20:19,680 --> 00:20:21,800
Speaker 4: Couldn't have been more opposites except for your eye color,

448
00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 4: because holy holy, like the two of you with the

449
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,880
Speaker 4: eye color is absolutely unreal, sparkling diamonds in there.

450
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, so with.

451
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 4: Cindy and the fact that I think that Mel very

452
00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,160
Speaker 4: much knew that he wanted to choose you in the end,

453
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:42,920
Speaker 4: but he still he still got quite annoyed that Cindy quit,

454
00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,159
Speaker 4: as he likes to point out that she quit and

455
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,320
Speaker 4: he did not like the fact that she stopped the process. Short,

456
00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:50,840
Speaker 4: why do you think that bollowed him so much? If

457
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:54,199
Speaker 4: he even said to you, I want it to be

458
00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:54,879
Speaker 4: you in the end.

459
00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:58,159
Speaker 5: You have to know, you have to understand people.

460
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,480
Speaker 6: The biggest thing in life that I can give people

461
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:01,840
Speaker 6: is to understand people.

462
00:21:01,880 --> 00:21:03,680
Speaker 5: We all come from different walks of.

463
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:06,520
Speaker 6: Life, and as you get older you realize this, It's

464
00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:08,960
Speaker 6: like nobody's the same. We all have our stuff, we

465
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,359
Speaker 6: all have our skeletons, we all have our traumas, we

466
00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 6: all have our love right and we're all doing the

467
00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,440
Speaker 6: best that we can on this planet for the very

468
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,679
Speaker 6: short time that we're here. So the reason why is

469
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,360
Speaker 6: because Mel is a professional athlete and what you guys

470
00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:24,600
Speaker 6: saw on TV, and if you've been watching us a

471
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:27,800
Speaker 6: following us, he's totally two different people what you saw

472
00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,200
Speaker 6: on TV and who he really is in real life,

473
00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 6: or they're totally two different.

474
00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:35,240
Speaker 5: People, you know, And he because he's a.

475
00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 6: Professional athlete, and in his mindset, you got to finish

476
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 6: the game, he tells. I listened to him on the

477
00:21:41,480 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 6: phone talking to his boys all the time.

478
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,040
Speaker 5: I don't care if you're winning or you're losing. You

479
00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:51,240
Speaker 5: got to finish the game. So that's his professional athlete mindset.

480
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:55,880
Speaker 6: You know, he's been playing football professionally for you know

481
00:21:56,160 --> 00:21:59,679
Speaker 6: what a long time, through college, through the NFL, and

482
00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:00,760
Speaker 6: that's mindset.

483
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,600
Speaker 5: You got to finish the game. So he did got

484
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 5: he did get.

485
00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:06,680
Speaker 6: Butt hurt about that because she didn't finish the game

486
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,399
Speaker 6: and that was his own personal stuff, and you know,

487
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:10,840
Speaker 6: and she had the right to leave.

488
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 5: Carol left.

489
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 6: She had the right to leave. And I commend both

490
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,800
Speaker 6: of those women, you know, if it's not what you want.

491
00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,600
Speaker 6: And I talked to Carol, I did I remember we

492
00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,239
Speaker 6: were in the kitchen that morning that she left, and

493
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:24,959
Speaker 6: Cindy kept saying to Carol, will give him grace. And

494
00:22:25,000 --> 00:22:27,560
Speaker 6: I said to Carol, I said, no, Carol, if this

495
00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 6: is not the guy for you, then you know, you know,

496
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:34,560
Speaker 6: peace out, because here's one thing I've learned in life,

497
00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,120
Speaker 6: you guys, I don't want to waste my precious life anymore.

498
00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:40,160
Speaker 6: God has given me this life, one life, one breath,

499
00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,600
Speaker 6: and I really my time is my most important commodity.

500
00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:44,560
Speaker 5: It really is.

501
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:47,080
Speaker 6: So who I spend that with is very important to me.

502
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,480
Speaker 6: So if it's not right, cut it and run.

503
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 3: You brought you bring up something here that I think

504
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:57,119
Speaker 3: is interesting for viewers. You just said that mel was

505
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 3: different on TV than he is in real life. Right,

506
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 3: fell in love with mel On when he was still

507
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 3: on TV, and now you know him in real life.

508
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 3: Can you explain how that's evolved for you if it

509
00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 3: is so different?

510
00:23:13,080 --> 00:23:15,040
Speaker 6: Well, here's the thing, you guys, because I and I

511
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,560
Speaker 6: was very honest, you know, and you asked the girls

512
00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,880
Speaker 6: in the house, Terry and the ones that I'm very

513
00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,880
Speaker 6: close to. I was there, and if you guys watched it,

514
00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:25,320
Speaker 6: I was, you know, I was. I was like, look,

515
00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:27,280
Speaker 6: I just need to know if this guy is datable

516
00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 6: forget about marriage, forget about being engaged.

517
00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:34,119
Speaker 5: Is he datable? And is he datable for me? Right? So,

518
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 5: the times that we had.

519
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 6: On the show, I got the one on one date

520
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:41,200
Speaker 6: and we spent like twelve hours together.

521
00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:42,640
Speaker 5: I mean as it was one of the longest one

522
00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 5: on one dates.

523
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 6: That our season had, and there was a lot of

524
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 6: off camera time, a lot because I was there from

525
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 6: you know, one o'clock in the afternoon to about midnight.

526
00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:56,239
Speaker 6: So and it's very important to have that time of

527
00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:00,080
Speaker 6: your overnight time in the fantasy suite without anybody there

528
00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,920
Speaker 6: because now, guess what, Now you can be yourself one

529
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 6: hundred percent yourself. And now is that true authentic self

530
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 6: going to match up with his true authentic self. And

531
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,280
Speaker 6: that's where that time is so important and that's why

532
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:13,639
Speaker 6: they give it to you, you guys.

533
00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:17,200
Speaker 5: If that time wasn't important, the show would not have given, you.

534
00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,199
Speaker 6: Know, all these bachelor and bachelorettes for twenty years that

535
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,280
Speaker 6: time in the fantasy suite. So there is something to it,

536
00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,200
Speaker 6: you know, there's something to it to finally to really get.

537
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 5: To know who that person is.

538
00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:30,840
Speaker 6: And I got to see him, he got to see me,

539
00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,159
Speaker 6: and know, we did not have sex, just to clarify,

540
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,200
Speaker 6: and we talked. We talked all night long, and we

541
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,760
Speaker 6: got to know each other, you know, and that's when.

542
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 5: I knew for me.

543
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 6: I don't know, I can't speak for mel, but that's

544
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,960
Speaker 6: when I knew for me, Okay, this is a go,

545
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,879
Speaker 6: this is a green flag. I can do this, but

546
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,200
Speaker 6: up to that point I wasn't sure. I was not sure,

547
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 6: and I told him at the fair and you guys

548
00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:54,919
Speaker 6: are probably going to bleep the side out.

549
00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 5: But I looked at.

550
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 6: Him at the OC Fair and I said, look, if

551
00:24:57,520 --> 00:25:00,199
Speaker 6: you're that egotistical, whole kind of a guy, I go

552
00:25:00,280 --> 00:25:01,399
Speaker 6: I've dated that before.

553
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 5: I am not going to date that again.

554
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,760
Speaker 4: You know, remind us what happened at the fair.

555
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 5: I got your attention, and she's like, oh, what happened

556
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,200
Speaker 5: alive in case you broke up for that one.

557
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,240
Speaker 6: We were off camera because we're eating lunch, right, and

558
00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,280
Speaker 6: I said, Okay, come over here, because this is how

559
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 6: I talked to me.

560
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,560
Speaker 5: I'm not afraid of the bell. I'm not. I'm not

561
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,919
Speaker 5: intimidated or afraid or any of that stuff. With what

562
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 5: I've done in my life.

563
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:31,760
Speaker 6: Hell, I've done dictitary protection with the President of the

564
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 6: United States.

565
00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 5: So I just said, look, I need to talk to you.

566
00:25:34,840 --> 00:25:35,240
Speaker 5: Come here.

567
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 6: And I said, look, you need to I said that

568
00:25:37,720 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 6: it's good that you made your apology. I you know,

569
00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:43,240
Speaker 6: that's great, but now I need to understand, help me

570
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 6: to understand.

571
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:45,200
Speaker 5: Is this who you really are?

572
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:47,600
Speaker 6: Is this you know, this person that you were talking,

573
00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:49,919
Speaker 6: you know, on that podcast, because I don't.

574
00:25:49,800 --> 00:25:50,440
Speaker 5: Want to date that.

575
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,680
Speaker 6: If you're you know, arrogant, egotistical and narcissistic.

576
00:25:54,400 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 5: I don't want to date that. And I said that

577
00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:57,600
Speaker 5: right to him with a.

578
00:25:57,560 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 6: Lot of f bombs, you know, And when we address

579
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 6: when we address that issue, we really did, you know,

580
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 6: and he gave me an answer to clarify that that

581
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,840
Speaker 6: I was okay with to move forward.

582
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,600
Speaker 5: In that journey.

583
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 3: I do think that interview set everything back because I

584
00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 3: think people are going into it wanting to be surprised,

585
00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:22,040
Speaker 3: wanting to be thrown off and say, yeah, that interview

586
00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:26,320
Speaker 3: doesn't make sense with how the story plays out right

587
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 3: in the end, where no, this guy does want to

588
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 3: find love, and he does want to find his partner,

589
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,639
Speaker 3: and he does want to find this forever person. And

590
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,119
Speaker 3: I think the show in it and where he said, hey,

591
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:38,119
Speaker 3: we got a promise ring and the two of you, yes,

592
00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,399
Speaker 3: as Ashley said, you make great sense together and it

593
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:44,960
Speaker 3: seems like you're very happy together, and people are happy

594
00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,080
Speaker 3: about that. But I do think still it lacks the

595
00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 3: story that was expected when you give up two hours

596
00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:56,680
Speaker 3: of your week every week to watch somebody possibly fall

597
00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 3: in love.

598
00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 6: But we we did fall in love just because we

599
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 6: didn't do it the traditional way. That's so sad that

600
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,919
Speaker 6: you said that, because now it's like, the reality is

601
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:09,920
Speaker 6: is we did fall in love, and you guys got

602
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 6: to see that story unfold. And if you're watching it,

603
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 6: you're even seeing more of a love story unfold. And

604
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,320
Speaker 6: that's what's exciting. This is not something that's going to

605
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 6: die in a month or get divorced and get married

606
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 6: in three months. You know, this is a love story

607
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:29,000
Speaker 6: that's real, that's honest, that's authentic, that's mature, right, and

608
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:31,320
Speaker 6: that's going to grow, and it is growing, and we're

609
00:27:31,320 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 6: having so much fun, you know, and enjoying each other's life.

610
00:27:35,480 --> 00:27:38,199
Speaker 3: It is and I think Mel explained it in an

611
00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 3: interview recently, and I think it starts to make the

612
00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 3: picture make more sense, where originally when we were watching

613
00:27:46,880 --> 00:27:49,919
Speaker 3: the season back, I think it was very clear that

614
00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 3: you weren't wanting to get married, and I think it

615
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 3: was pretty clear that Mel was not looking for a

616
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 3: marriage at the end of this, and so that was

617
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 3: an alignment that we saw as the sea and continued.

618
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:04,000
Speaker 3: And I think when you watch it, it almost told

619
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,080
Speaker 3: the story if it did not tell the story that, hey,

620
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 3: these two are just going to end up together DM

621
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 3: because they both want the same thing, not necessarily because

622
00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 3: they're madly in love. And that's why I said what

623
00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 3: I said. It's because they both want the same thing.

624
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 3: They're willing to date at the end of this and

625
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 3: to figure out if love comes from it, right. But

626
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 3: Mel comes on an interview and says, no, he knew

627
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:28,359
Speaker 3: it was you very early on. He knew it was

628
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 3: you very early on in the process. And so when

629
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,920
Speaker 3: for you personally did that love start to develop where

630
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:40,080
Speaker 3: you started to say, hey, this is also a guy

631
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:41,400
Speaker 3: for me. I mean you just said it was the

632
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,400
Speaker 3: fantasy suitees Mel saying it's week one and it was

633
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 3: always you. That's a pretty big length of time that

634
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: the two of you weren't aligning on this intention.

635
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:53,680
Speaker 5: As Starry my best friend out of the house. I

636
00:28:53,720 --> 00:28:54,880
Speaker 5: went in there. I didn't like him.

637
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 6: I was like, I don't know, I don't know, I

638
00:28:56,640 --> 00:28:58,680
Speaker 6: don't know. I kept like, I don't know, I don't know.

639
00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 6: If you know, I need to get to know who

640
00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 6: he is. And I almost did not go on the

641
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 6: show because of that podcast because I didn't like it.

642
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,360
Speaker 5: You guys, I was with America.

643
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 6: I'm like, that shitty man to say something like that

644
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:09,640
Speaker 6: was pretty damn shitty.

645
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:10,680
Speaker 5: I've taken my.

646
00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,560
Speaker 6: Time and my life and my energy to come meet you,

647
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 6: and this is what you say.

648
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 5: I'm like, no, no, no, no, that's not going to work,

649
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 5: you know.

650
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 6: So after I had talked to him at the OC Fair,

651
00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 6: because we've got to spend a lot of time, I

652
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,200
Speaker 6: had that conversation with him. You know, it lasted a

653
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 6: good you know, it was a long conversation, and by

654
00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 6: the end of the night, I knew that I wanted

655
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 6: to continue with this journey.

656
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:35,680
Speaker 5: There was that spark, there was that oh.

657
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,320
Speaker 6: I started to let my guard down, started to open

658
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:40,960
Speaker 6: my heart. And my daughter said to me, Mom, you

659
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 6: got to go I have an open heart and an

660
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 6: open mind. Don't judge somebody just because of what they said.

661
00:29:46,800 --> 00:29:48,320
Speaker 6: I mean, a lot of us we open mouth and

662
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:51,360
Speaker 6: insert foot and if you tell me you've never done that,

663
00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:54,160
Speaker 6: then you're lying because we all have, you know, or

664
00:29:54,200 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 6: we've said things.

665
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 5: That we wish we hadn't said out of context.

666
00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,719
Speaker 6: But I wanted to get to know who he was

667
00:29:59,840 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 6: in soul, at a soul level, you guys, you know,

668
00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 6: at a deep soul level, because that's what's going to

669
00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,800
Speaker 6: make the sustainable relationship work, you know, is you know

670
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 6: that sole level of a connection, that communication, the maturity

671
00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,960
Speaker 6: and the sustainability, and that's.

672
00:30:14,800 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 5: What you get when you get old. You know, you

673
00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 5: get that stuff because you've learned it.

674
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 4: Are you guys planning on moving to each other's cities?

675
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 4: I know that you guys are relatively close together your

676
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 4: for four hour drive. Right if this keeps progressing, do

677
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 4: you see yourself maybe ever living together?

678
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, we talk about that all the time.

679
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,080
Speaker 6: But what's really cool, you guys, you get old, you

680
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 6: get right because you've worked your entire life right, so

681
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:49,320
Speaker 6: you have right.

682
00:30:49,640 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 5: And what's exciting now is we have his house and

683
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 5: we have my houses. I love it. Who gets two houses? Man?

684
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:57,400
Speaker 5: That's cool. It is nice.

685
00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 6: We get to go to Orange County and hang out

686
00:30:58,880 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 6: of the beach, and we get to come to vag

687
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 6: and do Vegas things.

688
00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 5: Do you know how exciting that is?

689
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:06,000
Speaker 6: You know, it's exciting and it's fun, and that's the

690
00:31:06,040 --> 00:31:09,280
Speaker 6: way you should spend your sixties, doing it the way

691
00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 6: that you want to do it.

692
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 5: I've raised my daughter. I was a single mom.

693
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 6: You guys, I raised that kid by myself after my divorce.

694
00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 6: I was a bomb tech, I was a firefighter. I

695
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 6: was a police you know, a police academy, fire academy,

696
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,440
Speaker 6: FBI bomb academy. And you're going to tell me I

697
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,719
Speaker 6: have to do it your way. I don't think so.

698
00:31:26,440 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 6: It's my time.

699
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 5: It's my way, and that's what you need to do.

700
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 6: You know, as we get older, you realize that you

701
00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:36,480
Speaker 6: get to write your own story and your own life story,

702
00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:39,680
Speaker 6: your own love story. I paid my dues, I did

703
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:41,120
Speaker 6: everything that I was supposed to do.

704
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:42,920
Speaker 5: Now it's I get to do it my way.

705
00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

706
00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 4: That reminded me of a podcast that we just listened

707
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 4: to and how he was talking about how he wanted

708
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 4: to get to know how you retired at fifty.

709
00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 2: How did you retire at fifty? Well, the fire.

710
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,040
Speaker 6: Department, you guys, because when you're in, you know you

711
00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 6: have you can look. There's so many of us that

712
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,400
Speaker 6: die have either heart issues or cancer right because of

713
00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:03,960
Speaker 6: what we do.

714
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 5: That job. Let me tell you it's a ballbuster. It

715
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:08,240
Speaker 5: is a freaking ballbuster.

716
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 6: I've had children die in my hands, in my hands,

717
00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 6: gunshot wounds to the back of their head and a

718
00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 6: little ten year old that takes his last breath in

719
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 6: my arms, right the three year old that I have

720
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 6: to go to their house on a Saturday morning calling

721
00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 6: nine to one one because the baby girl is in

722
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 6: the pool, floating in her diapers and she's blue.

723
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 5: So, you know what, I don't have tolerance for bullshit

724
00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 5: in life. I just don't.

725
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,920
Speaker 6: And when you get that baby girl out of the

726
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 6: pool and you've got to put that kid on the

727
00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:40,960
Speaker 6: table and you've got to do CPR and the mom

728
00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 6: is screaming her eyes and her brain's out. Do you

729
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 6: think I give a shit about all this piddley.

730
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 5: Crap in life?

731
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,000
Speaker 6: I don't because I know what's important, and what's important

732
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,520
Speaker 6: is to be honest, have integrity, help another human being,

733
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 6: and have love, patience and tolerance. I know I'm kind

734
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 6: of on a soapbox, but man, when you see the

735
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,840
Speaker 6: worst of worst, you guys for twenty something years, you

736
00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 6: know what's important in life and you know what's not.

737
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 2: So how did you retire at fifty part department?

738
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 5: So what happened? You have twenty years? You can do

739
00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 5: twenty years and you have to be fifty.

740
00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 6: So at twenty I did twenty two years and as

741
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 6: soon as I hit fifty years old, I was peace

742
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,920
Speaker 6: out because I was having heart issues and that job

743
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 6: is beyond stressful. So the doctor told me, the fire doctor,

744
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 6: that my medical doctors, everybody's I was throwing PVCs.

745
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 5: That's a whole other thing, a heart issue, and so

746
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 5: it was time to go.

747
00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 3: Do you think that background helped you navigate this process?

748
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 3: I mean, because a it's definitely different, but it is

749
00:33:43,400 --> 00:33:46,280
Speaker 3: a level of stress, it is a level of the unknown.

750
00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:50,080
Speaker 3: There is obviously you come off of the show, and

751
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 3: there is the opinions that you take in the headlines

752
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: that you read, the people that you talk to confront

753
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 3: the truth like you are today. Do you think that

754
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,479
Speaker 3: background doing what you did help do you prepare for

755
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:03,959
Speaker 3: this chapter?

756
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 6: That background helped me prepare for life. It helped me

757
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 6: prepare for life. You know, there's a lot of different chapters,

758
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 6: you guys, as you get older in life. Here's this chapter,

759
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,799
Speaker 6: that chapter, this chapter. But to answer your question, yeah,

760
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 6: one hundred percent. And there's a lot of things that

761
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,759
Speaker 6: was there were going on behind the scenes that the

762
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 6: girls don't even know. You know, we came back from

763
00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 6: shooting one time and this is just who I am

764
00:34:24,840 --> 00:34:26,840
Speaker 6: because I was trained this way. And there was a

765
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 6: screen off the window, and I'm like, Holy Holy, what's

766
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:30,520
Speaker 6: going on?

767
00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:31,640
Speaker 5: Why is there a screen?

768
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,760
Speaker 6: And then Robin or someone somebody else said there's another

769
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 6: screen off.

770
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:37,160
Speaker 5: So I went into protection mode.

771
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,839
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh no, no, no, no, get me security, get

772
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 6: me the who's.

773
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:41,160
Speaker 5: Ever in charge?

774
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 6: Why are these screens off the You know, we were

775
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:49,320
Speaker 6: here in a house that's not secure, so we need

776
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 6: to find out what's going on. I asked for more security.

777
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 6: I asked for security with the weapon because I had

778
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 6: everybody's best interests. Just who I am, I'm a protector

779
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 6: and I'm you know, so I might Yeah, so yes,

780
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,480
Speaker 6: it did. It helped me a lot with this whole situation,

781
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:05,640
Speaker 6: and it sure did.

782
00:35:06,239 --> 00:35:08,840
Speaker 4: Did you and Mel watch the series back together?

783
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 6: We did not all of it, but a lot of it.

784
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 6: We did not all of it. Yeah we did, We

785
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 6: sure did. We watched it all back.

786
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: What did you think that was great?

787
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,400
Speaker 5: I loved it. It was fun.

788
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 6: It was a lot of fun. I think it was good.

789
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,120
Speaker 6: I have no ill feelings about anything. I know what

790
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 6: I signed up for. You guys, I knew there was

791
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 6: going to be one woman I knew that if we

792
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:34,120
Speaker 6: had a connection, I wanted to see if.

793
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 5: He was datable for me.

794
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,839
Speaker 6: I don't live in fantasy, I live in reality. And yeah,

795
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 6: it was fun.

796
00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 5: It was a lot of fun. You know. It was

797
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 5: interesting and fun.

798
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:43,759
Speaker 6: And I knew he was going to be making out

799
00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 6: with all these women and maybe he'll have a connection

800
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 6: with me and somebody else, or not me and other women.

801
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:51,799
Speaker 6: I knew what I was signing up for.

802
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, you're now, I mean goodness, pretty far removed from

803
00:35:56,600 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 3: the filming of the show. You've gotten to watch the

804
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:02,759
Speaker 3: show back. You answered the question on the season that

805
00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,160
Speaker 3: Mel was at least datable enough to say yes to

806
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:09,200
Speaker 3: a promise. Ring months into this now together, do you

807
00:36:09,239 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 3: still think Mel is datable?

808
00:36:11,480 --> 00:36:12,200
Speaker 5: One hundred percent.

809
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 6: He's more datable now than he was on the show.

810
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 6: And here's the thing in two you that you know,

811
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,319
Speaker 6: I just want to.

812
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:18,439
Speaker 5: Kind of like throw out there.

813
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:22,919
Speaker 6: Being a professional firefighter and arson detective and then arson

814
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 6: bomb squad, I did a lot of court trials, right

815
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:28,920
Speaker 6: They would bring us in to testify a lot of depositions,

816
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,600
Speaker 6: and one thing I've learned about Mel is that he has.

817
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,160
Speaker 5: A very, very very analytical brain.

818
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 6: You have to have that type of brain to be

819
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 6: a professional athlete, and you have to have that type.

820
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:41,400
Speaker 5: Of brain to be an attorney.

821
00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 6: So when you're deposed, they ask you questions and you answer,

822
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,680
Speaker 6: You give them one word answers. And it finally dawned

823
00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 6: on me when we were at the cheerleading competition with

824
00:36:51,600 --> 00:36:53,239
Speaker 6: Paula Abdul, because he.

825
00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 5: Got me aside and he was.

826
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:57,400
Speaker 6: Drilling me, and I'm like, wait a minute, what is

827
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 6: this about? And I went home and I assessed it

828
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 6: and I go, oh, that's what that's about. That's his

829
00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,839
Speaker 6: attorney for twenty five years, you know, doing a deposition

830
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:09,000
Speaker 6: and trying to find out information.

831
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 5: Because I've been in several depositions.

832
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 6: I've had to testify as an expert witness in federal court.

833
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,920
Speaker 5: So I understand that whole process. And you do you.

834
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,080
Speaker 6: Answer questions, you guys, with one word, because when you're

835
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:22,800
Speaker 6: in court, you don't want to give the court to

836
00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 6: any more information. You want to answer the question, but

837
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 6: you want to answer it with the least amount of

838
00:37:28,080 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 6: words because you don't want to give them that material, right,

839
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 6: So that's where he comes off with those one word answers.

840
00:37:35,040 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 5: And I understand that.

841
00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: Now I get that.

842
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,839
Speaker 3: I also know a lot of attorneys who are very

843
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 3: long winded and cannot shut up and talk. So there's

844
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 3: that side too.

845
00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,919
Speaker 6: He has that he has that, but nobody has seen

846
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 6: that side he has.

847
00:37:49,160 --> 00:37:51,480
Speaker 5: Oh my god, you'd ask them what time it is.

848
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 5: He'll tell you how to make a watch for like

849
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 5: two weeks.

850
00:37:54,200 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 3: If you listen to the breakdown of our season. I

851
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 3: kept saying, there's going to be a moment like, the

852
00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:02,960
Speaker 3: show doesn't not pick a lead that answers questions in

853
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 3: this way. The show does not pick a lead that

854
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 3: asks questions in this way. Never, that's not a thing,

855
00:38:09,640 --> 00:38:12,400
Speaker 3: like they know too much after so many years of

856
00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: doing this to pick a lead, Like there's gonna be

857
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 3: a moment where like that's the male, Like right there,

858
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 3: that's him, that's him. And I'll say this and again,

859
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: you started this whole thing out, and I respect that

860
00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 3: you said I'm not going to be here to speak

861
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: on Mel's behalf, And that's great. We'll talk to Mel

862
00:38:26,719 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 3: about so much of this. But there's one moment that

863
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:32,839
Speaker 3: really frustrated me this season because as frustrated as I

864
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 3: was watching this and being like I'm getting nothing out

865
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:38,360
Speaker 3: of this, guy like, I see nothing. I thought it

866
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 3: was going to happen at hometowns, and I thought it

867
00:38:39,880 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 3: was going to happen with your daughter. I really did.

868
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: I thought this would be the moment, out of any

869
00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 3: moment all season, where this guy is going to be

870
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 3: a human again and actually speak to her and answer

871
00:38:49,000 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 3: the questions that she's desiring to know about how he

872
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: feels about his mom. And goodness, gracious, he didn't do it.

873
00:38:54,440 --> 00:38:57,160
Speaker 5: He did do it. He did do it. No, no, no,

874
00:38:57,480 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 5: you guys know, come on now, stop it.

875
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,239
Speaker 2: No, but if he did it, the show would have

876
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: shown it.

877
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,240
Speaker 5: No, we would know. They didn't. You asked Cindy.

878
00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,640
Speaker 6: They had a whole day making hats in Austin, and

879
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,680
Speaker 6: he was so upset that they did not show that

880
00:39:11,840 --> 00:39:14,399
Speaker 6: side of him, that side of him the entire day.

881
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 6: And Cindy has talked about that as well on all

882
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:19,800
Speaker 6: these podcasts that she's done. There is so much left

883
00:39:19,960 --> 00:39:23,719
Speaker 6: on the editing floor that it's just and that's the

884
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:26,319
Speaker 6: nature of the beast. You guys, My daughter and him

885
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,880
Speaker 6: were laughing. You guys, wait, there's this whole scene.

886
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 5: It is so sad.

887
00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:33,720
Speaker 3: They'll just tell us how they interacted because we didn't

888
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 3: see it, you said, they did, I know.

889
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,960
Speaker 5: And here's the thing. So way walk in.

890
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 6: My daughter has a present for mel and this and

891
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 6: it is so sad this stuff didn't make it on

892
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 6: the show. She walked in with an actual hip replacement

893
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 6: because her boyfriend works.

894
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 5: In the medical field.

895
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 6: We died laughing for at least twenty minutes. It was hilarious.

896
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 5: She literally had.

897
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,719
Speaker 6: A hip replacement, then gave it to mel well right

898
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 6: and said, here, mel when you're ready for your hipro replacement,

899
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 6: and it's a real hip replacement, you guys, And we

900
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 6: had it and it was hilarious. And then those two

901
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:12,480
Speaker 6: were bantering back and forth. They were drinking a beer,

902
00:40:12,880 --> 00:40:16,720
Speaker 6: you know, yes, bantering, laughing their asses off.

903
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,560
Speaker 5: Didn't see that on television.

904
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 6: Didn't see anything of him and Cindy because he really

905
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 6: enjoyed that day of her taking him to that place

906
00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 6: to make to pick out a hat and do all

907
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,560
Speaker 6: this stuff, and they were laughing and they were joking.

908
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,720
Speaker 6: It was a couple of hours, he said, in the store.

909
00:40:35,000 --> 00:40:37,719
Speaker 6: And they didn't show any of that. So his real

910
00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 6: human side didn't make TV.

911
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 4: What's her theory on that? Why would they want to

912
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,800
Speaker 4: make their lead cold, seeming.

913
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 6: To ask those showrunners, I don't know you guys, so

914
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,640
Speaker 6: that's above my pay grade.

915
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:51,400
Speaker 5: I have no idea.

916
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 6: But my family, oh my god, they fell in love

917
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,920
Speaker 6: with him. We're laughing, we're joking, my daughter, my mother,

918
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,839
Speaker 6: he had some funny funny My mimd eighty two years

919
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 6: old with little dementia but never has missed a season

920
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 6: of The Bachelor or Bachelorette. And those two, those two

921
00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:12,400
Speaker 6: were bantering. That was hilarious. It was so fun. But

922
00:41:12,440 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 6: they didn't see that on TV.

923
00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,080
Speaker 5: And it's sad.

924
00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:17,520
Speaker 3: It's sad, but it's also reassuring to know that that

925
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 3: existed because I think, out of anything, and I'm glad

926
00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 3: we spoke to you before we spoke to Mel, because

927
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 3: I think if we would have spoke to Mel, I

928
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 3: still have that time in my head where I'm like,

929
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 3: this is the moment, dude, step up, want to step up?

930
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 3: And so to hear that he did is something reassuring

931
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 3: to me as a viewer and a fan of the show.

932
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,920
Speaker 3: Now to say, Okay, this guy wasn't just cold, even

933
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,560
Speaker 3: to the people that weren't really participating but had gotten

934
00:41:47,640 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 3: dragged into it, that would have been really frustrating. The

935
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 3: final question we have for you or that I have

936
00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:55,359
Speaker 3: for you, I guess I don't know if Ashley has

937
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 3: anything else. Have you taught Mel how to ride a unicycond?

938
00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 2: That was my.

939
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:03,720
Speaker 4: Question and guys' freaking hilarious.

940
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 5: Yeah I know he doesn't. Yeah, no, no.

941
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:09,520
Speaker 4: Is it ever gonna happen.

942
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 6: I don't want to be breaking hit because I have

943
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 6: to cut his ass.

944
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,359
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's good to hip ther place him out there.

945
00:42:15,680 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 4: We need to. We need to follow up where you

946
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,480
Speaker 4: guys just hang out. I want to see, like the

947
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:24,720
Speaker 4: way that I want to see your interaction with outside

948
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,480
Speaker 4: of the Bachelor process. Watch our videos, your natural environment

949
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 4: for either of you.

950
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 5: It's hilarious. We did this.

951
00:42:30,600 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 6: We did this fitness blast in in Rio de Janio.

952
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:36,320
Speaker 6: We taped a lot of it. It's hilarious, you guys,

953
00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 6: it's you got to watch it. It's hilarious, funny. He's

954
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 6: from the Funny Guy. Really believe it or not.

955
00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:46,840
Speaker 3: So for listeners that are listening to this and walking

956
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 3: through it, if you could explain your relationship today in

957
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 3: closing so they can kind of get a bow on

958
00:42:54,840 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: this whole experience. Can you explain how Peg and I'll

959
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 3: operate in the world together.

960
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,839
Speaker 6: We are two human beings walking on this planet that

961
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 6: have had you know, love, We've had loss, we've had children,

962
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 6: we've had careers, and now we're at this chapter of

963
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 6: our lives that we have found each other just to

964
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 6: enjoy each other one day at a time. You guys,

965
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:21,879
Speaker 6: I might not wake up in the morning, I might

966
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,239
Speaker 6: have a cardiac or rest during the night.

967
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 5: And this is the sh that you know.

968
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:27,880
Speaker 6: When as you get older, this stuff you start to

969
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 6: think about. So our relationship is out of mutual respect,

970
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,520
Speaker 6: out of love, out of joy and having fun. And

971
00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 6: we appreciate each other one day at a time, because

972
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,239
Speaker 6: that's all any of us have, you guys, that's it.

973
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 4: Very nice. So I'm glad that you guys are so happy.

974
00:43:45,760 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 4: It's really awesome. You beat Gary and Theurisa as far

975
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 4: as your longevity goes.

976
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 5: Already, Oh there you go.

977
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 2: Woo, Thank you beg for being here.

978
00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 6: You're welcome, guys, Thank you much. You guys will have

979
00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 6: a fun time with him. He's a good guy, he

980
00:44:03,120 --> 00:44:05,399
Speaker 6: really is. And he talks a lot. Oh my god,

981
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,680
Speaker 6: does he talk a lot. Be Ready.

982
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 2: That's good to know.

983
00:44:09,640 --> 00:44:12,759
Speaker 6: All right, guys, Thanks I really appreciate it.

984
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 4: Thank you, We really appreciate you coming on.

985
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 3: All right, until next time, I've been Ben, I've been Ashley.

986
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 4: See you guys.

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988
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,319
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