WEBVTT - Pacific Division Preview: Warriors and Clippers

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<v Speaker 1>On this episode of The Heat Check. Yes, sir, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a Sunday night and it is preview time, previewing every

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<v Speaker 1>team in the NBA by division, starting with Oh Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the Rolls, Royce, the Golden Goose, the Jordan Number one

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<v Speaker 1>type of division. That's the Pacific Division, the Big Boys, Kings, Warriors, Clippers, Lakers.

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<v Speaker 2>And Sons.

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<v Speaker 1>So many damn stars in this division and it's likely

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<v Speaker 1>all five teams are gonna.

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<v Speaker 2>Make the playoffs this year.

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<v Speaker 1>So also, we have a great interview with CBS Sports

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<v Speaker 1>Radio and NBA insider Bill Ryder oh Man. Folks, the

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<v Speaker 1>NBA season is just right around the corner. We already

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<v Speaker 1>got preseason games, So come on, William, do me a

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<v Speaker 1>favor and drop that generic ass beat what should.

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<v Speaker 2>Be Rihannes all the biggest NBA storylines, Lord till did

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<v Speaker 2>so the heat Check. The heat Check was just a

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<v Speaker 2>crazy the.

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<v Speaker 1>Best podcast covering all the drama around the association. NBA

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<v Speaker 1>camp is under way, folks, so it's about that time.

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<v Speaker 2>Time to preview the NBA divisions for the new season.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a lot that's happened so.

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<v Speaker 1>Far in the off season. Obviously, the Damian Lillard thing

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<v Speaker 1>was overwhelming. Yeah, it was. It was pretty much what

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<v Speaker 1>we all thought about all offseason. That in Harden and

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<v Speaker 1>so a lot of the players who have moved teams.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet you forgot Bradley Beal was even on the Suns, right,

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<v Speaker 1>happened so long ago.

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<v Speaker 2>I bet you.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't even remember that Eric Gordon is on the Suns.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's preview the division and get into it, because

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure there are some things that you need to remember.

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<v Speaker 1>We will not miss any of the news. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that we're not going to miss any of the tea.

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<v Speaker 1>So I wanted to make sure, though, while it's still

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<v Speaker 1>the quiet season, that maybe we get everybody up to

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<v Speaker 1>speed for every damn team. We start out with the

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<v Speaker 1>Pacific Division. They have five teams, all of which you

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<v Speaker 1>can make a very serious argument could win the title

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<v Speaker 1>this year if the right things happen right, if the right,

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<v Speaker 1>right right things happen for the team. But we gotta

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<v Speaker 1>start with the team that I affectionately call our dubs.

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<v Speaker 1>Long time everyone knows, longtime lifelong Warriors fan, that's me.

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<v Speaker 1>So we gotta start there. Gotta give the Kings of

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<v Speaker 1>the Hill their props.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I know, they.

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't even get to the Western Conference Finals last year,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is not There was a lot happening around

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<v Speaker 1>the team.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, Draymond punched, fucked up the vibe anyway. Golden State Warriors,

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<v Speaker 1>their win total is sitting there at forty eight and

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<v Speaker 1>a half wins, which means that Vegas thinks they're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>win me somewhere between forty eight and will they Let's

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<v Speaker 1>get into it. The new editions. Chris Paul Brandon, Pojaempski,

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<v Speaker 1>Poja Semski.

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<v Speaker 2>You know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what I mean, dar Yo Sarich, Rudy gay

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<v Speaker 1>Uzman Garuba, that's a sneaky one.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember he was the first round pick.

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<v Speaker 1>Rodney McGruder who has beef currently probably still with Clay

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson and Draymond Green.

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<v Speaker 2>Remember Clay called.

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<v Speaker 1>Him, I think he called him a bitch or something

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<v Speaker 1>like a couple of years ago, made NBA TV. Everyody's like, ooh,

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<v Speaker 1>Clay's the Savage Clay Clay Clay, and then Draymond got

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<v Speaker 1>on National TV and said something else I mean about him,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's on the team. Corey Joseph from the Detroit

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<v Speaker 1>Pistons also on the team sneaky pickup out is Jordan Poole.

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<v Speaker 1>Out is Dante DiVincenzo, Andre Igwa Igwa gimme Igwa Dalla

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<v Speaker 1>and James James I got taken second overall and no

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<v Speaker 1>one knows why heisman.

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<v Speaker 2>The Warriors started out last season. It was just a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>Is who has the tape? Who leaked it? Why did

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Poole get hit in the face? What he say

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<v Speaker 1>to Draymond apparently the new leaks coming out, or that

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<v Speaker 1>he said that Draymond Green was Steph Curry's overpriced backpack,

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<v Speaker 1>which I heard it was actually even worse than that.

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<v Speaker 1>The puncher ends up getting one hundred million dollar extension

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<v Speaker 1>for all the trouble, doesn't get suspended for all the

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<v Speaker 1>trouble that he calls, and Jordan Poole, the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>got assaulted, ends up in Washington, DC on one of

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<v Speaker 1>the most dysfunctional franchises in the NBA.

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<v Speaker 2>Seems fair, seems fair?

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<v Speaker 1>Right, that's Siberia, Folks. Rough break for Jordan Poole. But

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<v Speaker 1>at least he's got Kuzma to show him off in

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<v Speaker 1>Chocolate City, little nightclub actions, show him where all the

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<v Speaker 1>fashion is. See what's popping off on U Street, and

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<v Speaker 1>I tell you the block is hot. I know it

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<v Speaker 1>from personal experience.

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<v Speaker 2>The block is hot on U Street twenty four to seven.

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<v Speaker 1>The big addition, of course, is Chris Paul, the point

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<v Speaker 1>god CP three, The same guy that I said might

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<v Speaker 1>be a big issue for the Suns is now on

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<v Speaker 1>the Warriors. Why why did I say he might be

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<v Speaker 1>a big issue? Let me recap what I said after

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<v Speaker 1>the trade went down. Chris Paul averaged twelve five and

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<v Speaker 1>seven in the playoffs, which was which was off his

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty two to twenty twenty three season average of

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<v Speaker 1>fourteen four and nine. So that's obviously in itself the

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<v Speaker 1>least productive number in his entire seventeen year career. Even

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<v Speaker 1>in Chris Paul's rookie year he averaged sixteen to five

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<v Speaker 1>and eight, and that was his worst statistical season until

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<v Speaker 1>last year. And remember this, Chris Paul's final game as

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<v Speaker 1>a Phoenix Sun. He was a minus three nine And

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's thirty nine years old, so sweet justice.

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<v Speaker 1>He missed twenty three regular season games last year.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, thirty nine years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Yep.

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<v Speaker 2>We did a little mass school.

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<v Speaker 1>What exactly Golden State expects from this slow, undersized point

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<v Speaker 1>guard who could probably give you twenty two minutes.

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<v Speaker 2>Fifty eight sixty games.

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<v Speaker 1>And then, of course we know about the playoffs what

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna do there, which is not a lot. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>Steph thinks the world of Chris Paul because they've been

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<v Speaker 1>playing pick up, according to Steph all summer, to help

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<v Speaker 1>them prep for the season.

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<v Speaker 2>I know this though.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing I will say that's a positive is

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<v Speaker 1>I saw Chris Paul get like just throw an absolute

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<v Speaker 1>dime back door to Klay Thompson. He did not even

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<v Speaker 1>expect because he's probably never.

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<v Speaker 2>Seen it in his pro career from a teammate.

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<v Speaker 1>The Warriors team obviously had had some issues.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not just chemistry. Staying healthy is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest one. And it's not Paul only and his

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<v Speaker 2>what was.

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<v Speaker 1>That Chris Paul's secret juice, secret stuff, but Klay Thompson

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<v Speaker 1>as well. He needs the secret stuff of him himself

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<v Speaker 1>because he is on the back end of his career

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<v Speaker 1>with an acl and an achilles tear that happened not

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<v Speaker 1>too long ago. Steph, of course, always has to be healthy.

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<v Speaker 1>When he's not healthy, the team is a lottery team,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially Draymond Green, who's, by the way, check's notes

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<v Speaker 1>already hurt, already.

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<v Speaker 2>Hurt yep our Dubs.

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<v Speaker 1>Little ankle injury for our Dubs. In addition, the team

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<v Speaker 1>needs to learn how to win on the road again,

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<v Speaker 1>because they were an absolute disaster away from the Chase Center.

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<v Speaker 1>I do think the biggest issue is probably depth. They

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<v Speaker 1>brought in a seventeen year vet.

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<v Speaker 2>Let me say that again.

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<v Speaker 1>They brought in a seventeen year vet, not seventeen year old.

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<v Speaker 1>A seventeen year vet in Rudy Gay and a journeyman

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<v Speaker 1>Rodney Magruder, Dario Sarich and twelve year pro Corey Joseph.

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<v Speaker 1>They were like, remember when we said we're gonna go

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<v Speaker 1>two timeline thing, we are, but the timeline word going

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<v Speaker 1>is back back in the time. We're only taking guys

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<v Speaker 1>that have been in the league fifteen years and longer

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<v Speaker 1>twelve if you're really good. There's still Kaminga and Moody,

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<v Speaker 1>the babies of the crew. Although Kaminga all off season

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<v Speaker 1>was rumored to WANTA Trade was not.

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<v Speaker 2>Happy with his usage in the playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>Not exactly a super deep bench, But listen, our Dubs

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<v Speaker 1>always contenders as long as they have Steph Curry, Kevon

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<v Speaker 1>Looney and a very healthy, very productive Draymond Green.

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<v Speaker 2>They have Klay.

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<v Speaker 1>Thompson who's now playing power forward full time and who

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<v Speaker 1>many people say is washed, but did lead the NBA

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<v Speaker 1>somehow with three hundred and one made three pointers last year.

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<v Speaker 1>They also have the unsung hero, which I just referenced.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about Kevon Looney. Tough, durable on court IQ

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<v Speaker 1>is out of this world. He's one of the most

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<v Speaker 1>effective rebounders in the league. Steve Kerr had many glowing

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<v Speaker 1>things to say about Keavon in the playoffs, but this

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<v Speaker 1>one stuck out. He said, I think Loune is one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best centers in the league.

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<v Speaker 2>I really do.

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<v Speaker 1>People don't recognize it because he's not dunking, shooting threes.

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<v Speaker 2>And all that stuff. But the guy is a flat

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<v Speaker 2>out winner. He's a machine. We wouldn't be here without him.

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<v Speaker 2>That's facts.

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<v Speaker 1>They wouldn't have gotten out of the first round without

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<v Speaker 1>Kevon Looney last year. I know it, I saw it,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was effective. Golden State is going to be

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<v Speaker 1>at least a regular season force this year because in

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<v Speaker 1>the Steph era, they usually are I'm not sure that

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<v Speaker 1>this team is any better than last year when they

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<v Speaker 1>won forty four games.

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<v Speaker 2>I see him about the same this year.

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<v Speaker 1>I can see them very easily being a playing team,

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<v Speaker 1>or I could see them being a five or six

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<v Speaker 1>eight seed.

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<v Speaker 2>This is gonna be one of those things that comes

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<v Speaker 2>down to the world.

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<v Speaker 1>As an aside, maybe the biggest loss of the off

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<v Speaker 1>season was Bob Myers, their longtime GM, the architect of

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<v Speaker 1>the dynasty. When this team needs help, it's always been

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<v Speaker 1>able to find a rabbit of the hut because Bob Myers.

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<v Speaker 2>What is my man, Mike Dunleavy Junior going to do

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<v Speaker 2>to fill his shoes?

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<v Speaker 1>Big shout out to Mike Dunleavy Junior. You have made

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<v Speaker 1>it in life. You are a Portland legend. One thing

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<v Speaker 1>is for sure. Of course, the Warriors are gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>very fun to watch. I am not sure our dubs are.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't actually say is dynasty, Baby, We're back, can't

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<v Speaker 1>mush us.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's move on to the LA Clippers.

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<v Speaker 1>Their win totals sitting there at forty six and a

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<v Speaker 1>half by Vegas. This is who they've added kJ Martin.

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<v Speaker 1>They have re signed Russell Westbrook, they got Josh I

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<v Speaker 1>don't wear underwear, Primo, Xavier Moon, and Jordan Miller out

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<v Speaker 1>of Miami. They lost Eric Gordon. But let's be real,

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<v Speaker 1>this team just hasn't made at many moves. They've been

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<v Speaker 1>looking and trying and waiting to scoop up James Harden

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<v Speaker 1>for a discount, and that has not happened yet. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's be real. No team has more questions coming into

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<v Speaker 1>this season, and no team has done less to address

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<v Speaker 1>their issues than the LA Clippers. That is why the

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<v Speaker 1>Clippers are my.

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<v Speaker 2>Team of this division.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah, I want to believe, I want to, but they

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<v Speaker 1>are in desperate need of a real point guard and

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<v Speaker 1>are currently holding up the Philadelphia seventy six ers kind

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<v Speaker 1>of at gunpoint for James Harden. You will take this

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<v Speaker 1>one first round pick and you will like it. They're

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<v Speaker 1>offering Marcus Morris, Rob Covington, Oh my god, Roco a

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<v Speaker 1>first round pick and a swap. Daryl Morey is like, bitch, please,

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<v Speaker 1>I do not want Roco, Are you fucking serious?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I want Terrence Man Baby, the versatile six seven long wingspan,

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<v Speaker 1>can't play point guard, can't play small ball five.

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<v Speaker 2>And the Clippers were.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, no, we don't have a lot of young assets,

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<v Speaker 1>so we kind of don't really want to give them up.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's where we're at on the trade. Even though

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<v Speaker 1>Woj says they are disinclined to up their offer because

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<v Speaker 1>there is no other offer, we know that everyone knows

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<v Speaker 1>that any NBA fan knows there are no other offers

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<v Speaker 1>for James Harden. They did bring in a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>young players of interest. kJ Martin played the right way

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<v Speaker 1>when he played for the Houston Rockets. He's Kenyan Martin's son.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenyan Martin lives in LA. This is gonna be an

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<v Speaker 1>amazing fit. I think for him, a new star for

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<v Speaker 1>his career. He gets out from under what was clearly

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<v Speaker 1>a very dysfunctional organization until emy Udoka came in. He

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<v Speaker 1>probably is gonna carve himself out a nice little role.

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<v Speaker 1>They signed Josh Primo on a two way contract because

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest, they're not giving him anything more than

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<v Speaker 1>that after what he's been accused of doing. But the player,

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<v Speaker 1>Josh Primo, outside of all the semantics involved, this is

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<v Speaker 1>a fine, fine young player. Clippers loved him. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>talking to Jerry West about Josh Primo right after the

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<v Speaker 1>draft two summers ago.

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<v Speaker 2>He loved him.

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<v Speaker 1>They wanted to pick him up before San Antonio snaked them.

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<v Speaker 1>So they are thinking, we got Josh Primo at a discount. Baby,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, we have a guard of the future. So

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<v Speaker 1>what are these Clippers other than the forty four and

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<v Speaker 1>thirty eight fifth seed from last year? Very talented, pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much off an injured team facing a bunch of new

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<v Speaker 1>crackdown rules from the NBA on you guessed it, what

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<v Speaker 1>we're calling the Kawhi Rule low management. Kawhi is saying

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<v Speaker 1>he's healthy. PG is saying he's completely healthy. But with

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<v Speaker 1>those two, those guys are like the basketball version the

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<v Speaker 1>LA Chargers, And I can't tell which one is Keenan

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<v Speaker 1>Allen and which one is Mike Williams.

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<v Speaker 2>Who is gonna be the Mike Williams of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Year's LA Clippers.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's like whack a mole.

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<v Speaker 1>One year it's PG, one year it's Kawhi, then back

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<v Speaker 1>and forth and back and forth again. Kawhi has never

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<v Speaker 1>played more than fifty seven games, never played more than

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<v Speaker 1>fifty seven games in his time in Los Angeles. Paul

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<v Speaker 1>George has averaged forty seven games per season in LA

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Harden not exactly the guy that you want

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<v Speaker 1>leading your franchise when you have multiple marquee stars.

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<v Speaker 2>Down with an injury. So I don't know how he

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<v Speaker 2>really helps them.

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<v Speaker 1>The upside in theory great.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you really want to give up Terrence Man for him?

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<v Speaker 2>Does it really move the needle for you? Does it?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it doesn't for me.

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<v Speaker 1>The Clippers have been skating by on their potential for

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<v Speaker 1>a very long time, and I just can't believe anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been I've been hoodwinked. I have been bamboozled for

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<v Speaker 1>too many years. I've been on the Clippers hype train

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<v Speaker 1>now for since they got Kawhi, since twenty nineteen, and

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<v Speaker 1>I am done.

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<v Speaker 2>If I have to be.

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<v Speaker 1>Super optimistic, like I said, I'm gonna try to put

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<v Speaker 1>a brave face on Josh Primo could be very good,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe bones Highland. I saw him throw behind the back

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<v Speaker 1>pass to Kawhi Leonard in a preseason game tonight, so

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<v Speaker 1>there's that.

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<v Speaker 2>Xavier Moon.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched him be absolutely unguardable in Summer League. I

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<v Speaker 1>called him trash. I'm sorry, I didn't know. I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>familiar with your game.

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<v Speaker 2>Xavier Moon.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't familiar with the fact that you are a

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<v Speaker 1>mid range machine, and so if.

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<v Speaker 2>He's that at the next level, this could get very interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe they'll be very fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe it'll be Josh Primo and Xavier Moon the back

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<v Speaker 1>court of the LA Clippers future. Just in time, those

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<v Speaker 1>household names, just in time. Today debut a very new

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<v Speaker 1>stadium that's very expensive. But mostly I'll be waiting. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be sitting there, waiting for the inevitable injuries which will

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<v Speaker 1>derail a team that I was sure was going to

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<v Speaker 1>the finals the past three years. Fool me once, shame

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<v Speaker 1>on me, booy, fool me twice. Can't get fooled again.