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Speaker 1: We're back.

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Speaker 2: It seems we're back to where.

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Speaker 3: We were in the nineties, where there is a.

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Speaker 4: Pretty strong split between the interventionists and the non interventionists

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Speaker 2: I'm curious your thoughts.

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Speaker 4: You've seen this unfold over the past forty to fifty years.

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Speaker 3: Where is the party right now?

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Speaker 5: And what are the political risks for Donald Trump if

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Speaker 5: he goes in or if he stays out.

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Speaker 6: So, Joe, we're struggling in I'd say a real national

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Speaker 6: debate about where our.

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Speaker 2: National interests are.

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Speaker 6: And I must say somebody lived through the pre Rock period.

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Speaker 6: That was the kind of debate we needed back then.

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Speaker 6: We needed in two thousand and three to be talking

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Speaker 6: about what wasn't our interests as a country? Did this

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Speaker 6: make sense? What would happen after we innovaded?

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Speaker 2: Wasn't enough of that? Because Dad was big?

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Speaker 6: Virzinski was a rare example of somebody was asking us questions.

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Speaker 2: So the more debate that I'm hearing, the better. I think.

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Speaker 6: One thing that's likely is that President Trump will learn

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Speaker 6: in this debate, noisy, sometimes fractious, who he trusts and

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Speaker 6: who he doesn't.

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Speaker 2: He'll make up his mind better.

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Speaker 6: You know, he's often all over the map in terms

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Speaker 2: One day says something, next day the next.

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Speaker 6: That's one reason I think the Iranians mistrust him in

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Speaker 6: these negotiations. They just aren't sure where he is. But

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Speaker 6: over time that will shake out better. There are reports

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Speaker 6: for a president to have this kind of shakedown cruise

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Speaker 6: I'd like to make is we're all focused to a

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Speaker 6: in Washington, but the cockpit in this war is in

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Speaker 6: tell of even Jerusalem. Israelis won't wait forever.

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Speaker 2: They have embarked on what.

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Speaker 6: They see as an absolutely critical central campaign to take

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Speaker 6: out Iron's nuclear capability while they can.

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Speaker 2: They have other.

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Speaker 6: Options besides waiting for the US bunkabuster.

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Speaker 2: They're not good ones.

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Speaker 6: But there's more and more talk being leaked about commando operations,

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Speaker 2: So the idea that we.

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Speaker 6: Can take as long as we want make up our

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Speaker 6: minds two weeks from today. Not necessarily this is in

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Speaker 6: the end going to be an Israeli decision.

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Speaker 3: Primarily, Donald Trump knows where you are at this moment.

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Speaker 2: You have been warned.

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Speaker 7: At best, your economy that will be destroyed. Your refineries,

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Speaker 7: they will be up in smoke. Your infrastructure will be

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Speaker 7: around if you keep going the way you're going. Military

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Speaker 7: will be shredded. Your weapons and ammunition will be gone.

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Speaker 7: Your nuclear program that you have put so much time, effort, money,

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Speaker 7: energy into, it's utterly destroyed. Now it will be further

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Speaker 8: I believe ultimately that he wants a deal and he

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Speaker 8: wants to use this rhetoric and this moment in order

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Speaker 8: if their nuclear program is completely obliterated, the threat that

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Speaker 8: use that to force the deal ultimately, And that's why

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Speaker 8: he wants that inconsistent messaging. And by the way, that

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Speaker 8: tends to work usually with adversaries. You don't want adversary,

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Speaker 8: you don't want to lay out all of your options

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Speaker 8: A and then move to be and so on. You

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Speaker 8: don't want your adversary, when you're dealing with a dictator

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Speaker 9: Know all that.

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Speaker 8: But that said, he is very seriously considering joining strikes

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Speaker 8: against Florido, Right, that's what we're talking about here. This

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Speaker 8: deploying troops across across Iran a war that's similar to

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Speaker 8: not what this is about. This is this is a

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Speaker 8: situation that would look like sorry, specific attacks, limited military engagement,

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Speaker 10: So I've never taken money from the Israel lobby.

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Speaker 11: Have you taken money from the Israeli pack? So a

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Speaker 11: pak raises a lot of money for me, But it's

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Speaker 11: actually a misnomer because the people who raise money are individuals.

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Speaker 11: So it's not the pack itself but their individual members

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Speaker 12: Friendship and of foreign lobby.

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Speaker 11: No, it's an America lobby. It's the A pack stands

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Speaker 12: What is it lobby for? So, to be honest, not

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Speaker 11: Listen, I came into to Congress thirteen years ago, Yes,

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Speaker 11: with the stated intention of being the leading defender of

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Speaker 12: I've worked every day to do that.

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Speaker 11: A pack A lot of times, Apac, I wish were

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Speaker 12: Like there.

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Speaker 11: You are the swamp terrified of a pack, and Apac.

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Speaker 10: I'm not terrified of a pack at all. I'm you're

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Speaker 10: the one who seems little uncomfortable. I'm asking now, I'm

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Speaker 10: not uncomfortable all. I'm just asking what a pack does

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Speaker 10: my understanding having normal we could tell you about that

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Speaker 10: is lobbies on behalf of the Israeli government. Oh okay,

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Speaker 10: it's when was the last time APAC took a position

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Speaker 11: Okay, let me go back and get a little history.

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Speaker 11: If you want to do a deep dive on a

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Speaker 11: I don't. I want to do a shallow dive to

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Speaker 11: get no, no, no, no. I want to get to

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Speaker 11: the core question. APAK is lobbying for a foreign government,

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Speaker 11: and I don't. It's not a lobbying for the United States.

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Speaker 11: It is lobbying for a strong US Israeli relationship, Okay.

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Speaker 12: And so it's not has nothing to do with foreign government.

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Speaker 11: It wants America and Israel to be closely allied, Okay.

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Speaker 11: But it's lobbying on behalf of the interests of another country.

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Speaker 11: So that's not true at all, And it's not true.

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Speaker 10: No, how much contact do you think APEC leaders have

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Speaker 10: for the government of Israel, No.

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Speaker 11: I think the government of Israel is often frustrated with APECK.

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Speaker 10: Do you think there's any coordination between the government of

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Speaker 1: Do they talk?

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Speaker 2: Sure?

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Speaker 11: If you're lobbying for more US Mexico trade, would you

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Speaker 10: Like like if so, I'm not mad about that. There

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Speaker 10: are a million countries that lobby Washington. I like a

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Speaker 10: lot of those countries, including the Tree. But APECK are Americans,

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Speaker 10: but not is Rael. There are tons of Americans who

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Speaker 10: lobby on behalf of foreign governments.

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Speaker 12: I know them. I'm related to some of them.

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Speaker 10: I know how it works.

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Speaker 12: I'm from here.

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Speaker 10: So my question is not is it outrageous at foreign

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Speaker 10: governments lobby the United States? They all do okay, including Israel.

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Speaker 10: My only question is why don't we admit that is

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Speaker 10: why aren't they registered as a foreign lobby because they're not.

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Speaker 9: Iran cannot have a nuclear weapon.

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Speaker 2: From day one, President Trump has been clear.

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Speaker 1: They'd right to talk, but they should have done that before.

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Speaker 3: Sometimes you have to take a stand against evil, and that's.

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Speaker 2: What President Trump understands. And we appreciate, deeply appreciate the

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Speaker 3: The iron is not winning this war.

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Speaker 5: President Trump's strength is making the world safer, standing with

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Speaker 4: In his head said, I have to worry about the

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Speaker 4: worst case scenario. But my feeling is this, we didn't

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Speaker 4: create this problem. It's been around for forty six years.

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Speaker 4: We never have been closer to addressing this problem.

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Speaker 2: And this is his historic opportunity.

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Speaker 4: And the Israelis have already shown incredible competency and skill

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Speaker 13: You're crazy. You have not been paying attention. It would

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Speaker 13: have to the beepers, the pagers, and also they targeted

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Speaker 14: We are the only ones that have these bombers and

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Speaker 14: this equipment that could actually penetrate. They would have to

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Speaker 14: send boots on the ground. So if you believe in prayer,

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Speaker 14: pray for whoever is selected if we end up making

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Speaker 14: we're drinking our coffee, I have my heater going, and

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Speaker 12: This is the primal scream of a dying regime. Pray

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Speaker 12: for our enemies. We're going to medieval on these people.

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Speaker 12: He's not got a free shot.

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Speaker 5: All these networks lying about the people, the people have

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Speaker 12: I know you don't like hearing that. I know you've

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Speaker 12: tried to do everything in the world to stop that,

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Speaker 2: And where do people like that go to share the

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Speaker 9: Mega media. I wish in my soul, I wish that

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Speaker 9: any of these people had a conscience.

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Speaker 12: Ask yourself, what is my task and what is my purpose?

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Speaker 1: If that answer is to save my country, this country

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Speaker 12: War Room, use your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 5: Thursday, nineteen June, in the year of Our Lord, twenty

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Speaker 5: twenty five. It's juneteenth today. It's a federal holiday, the

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Speaker 5: commemoration of the of the end of slavery or the

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Speaker 5: notification of the end of slavery.

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Speaker 12: Post Civil War. I want to go back.

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Speaker 5: I got jack, so pos jump in here, Posa, but

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Speaker 5: I got up hold a couple of things just breaking.

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Speaker 5: Hugo Lowe at The Guardian has an exclusive that gets

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Speaker 5: to this tactical issue about actually the viability actually doing something.

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Speaker 5: But I've got to go back because Brian killed me.

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Speaker 5: You know, our position here at the War Room has

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Speaker 5: been pretty straightforward. We absolutely believe that the I had tone.

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Speaker 5: Those guys can't get a nuclear weapon. The way to

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Speaker 5: do that is President Trump's negotiations, a deal or economic warfare.

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Speaker 5: It's pretty clear that this this urgency, this rush, and

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Speaker 12: It's on every paper.

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Speaker 5: We called this Friday morning, when the assault happened, we said,

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Speaker 5: stand by that, and our line is quite simply, Netanyahu,

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Speaker 5: just finish what you started. Fox News right now there reiterates,

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Speaker 12: Told told the world you got you can do it.

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Speaker 12: Bas Okay, two massive stories.

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Speaker 12: Two massive stories.

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Speaker 12: All of it oversee us, he's on deck or get

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Speaker 12: And remember, we don't we don't want to lose these guys.

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Speaker 16: No, President Trump is the one who sets the timetable.

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Speaker 16: Sorry, There's one person that the American people voted for,

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Speaker 5: from them again. They were thrown out of the guys

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Speaker 5: in IRAQO. Who are you guys again? Where you been

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Speaker 5: in the United States? No, you're not part of us.

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Speaker 5: It's the same bait and switcher. We never had a

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Speaker 5: reasoned discussion at any level to talk about regime change.

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Speaker 12: We've talked.

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Speaker 5: I've talked about it here on economic warfare is what

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Speaker 5: you do, is what what President Trump started in the

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Speaker 5: first term. And you saw in twenty two, uh Jack,

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Speaker 5: when they took to the streets. Now, they weren't ready

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Speaker 5: to overthrow the regime, but that's how it gets done.

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Speaker 5: When they take you over the streets and they got,

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Speaker 5: you know, two million kids in the streets saying, hey,

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Speaker 5: we don't want to live like this anymore. You economic

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Speaker 5: warfare can get you there when it comes from the

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Speaker 5: Persian people, it comes from the it comes from the

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Speaker 5: Kurds that are in Iran, it comes from these other

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Speaker 5: groups when they do it. If you want to do that,

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Speaker 5: that's how you do it. But that's not overnight. It's

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Speaker 5: not a decapitation. You own a decapitation. Colin Powell, who

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Speaker 5: is wrong about so many things, he was dead right

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Speaker 5: on one thing. You break it, you own it. You

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Speaker 5: break it, you own it. And so now we're being

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Speaker 5: upsold in this sense of urgency. It has to happen today,

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Speaker 5: President Trump has to happen today. Nobody has explained why

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Speaker 5: it had to happen last Thursday night because bb went

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Speaker 5: on Fox on Sunday told Brett Baer they're twelve or

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Speaker 5: thirteen months away from having a weapon.

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Speaker 12: That's what he said.

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Speaker 5: That's his words, not the war rooms. Twelve to thirteen months.

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Speaker 5: So did it have to happen last week? Does this

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Speaker 5: have to happen today? Does the presidentied states not get

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Speaker 5: some time to weigh and measure? And then yesterday levinstown

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Speaker 5: no more meanings with the Iranians? Jack, what does that

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Speaker 5: even mean? The president, iied states Trump, who's a guy

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Speaker 5: who likes optionality. If you ever give him a range

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Speaker 5: of alternatives in any path, as you go down that path,

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Speaker 5: it also has to have options. He likes to be

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Speaker 5: able to call audibles, right. He understands football. He understands

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Speaker 5: kind of strategy. You want to always keep them, keep

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Speaker 5: them so they don't know you're exactly coming for him?

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Speaker 5: Is how does Levin get off saying no more meetings

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Speaker 5: with the Radium, no more meetings with the Radians.

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Speaker 12: What does that even mean?

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Speaker 16: Well, Steve, I'm pretty sure that the American people voted

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Speaker 16: for Donald J. Trump to be President of the United

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Speaker 16: States and not Mark Levin and Steve. President Trump's got

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Speaker 16: two other weapons that I don't hear anybody talking about

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Speaker 16: right now. And you know what, those two weapons are

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Speaker 16: extremely powerful weapons. He's got two incredibly, He's got two

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Speaker 16: incredible weapons. One in the bunker buster bessen't and one

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Speaker 16: is bunker buster Witkough. So you got Bessing on one

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Speaker 16: side with the economics, and he understands by the way,

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Speaker 16: you want to put pressure on the mullas well. You

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Speaker 16: go to the Chinese Communist Party, because the Chinese Communist

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Speaker 16: Party and you put the squeeze on them.

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Speaker 9: That's Iran's number one large customer. Ninety percent of their

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Speaker 9: oil get sold to the CCP.

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Speaker 12: Boom.

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Speaker 9: Tie that to the trade deal.

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Speaker 16: Then you got Witkoff and say you know what, hey, Russia,

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Speaker 16: you want this piece in Ukraine, you want the ceasefire,

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Speaker 16: this pharmacist, all this other stuff.

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Speaker 9: Guess what, you're gonna help us put the squeeze on

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Speaker 9: Mullas as well.

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Speaker 16: So through Besson and Wikoff and everybody remembers, this was

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Speaker 16: President Trump's grand strategy. This was the strategy he laid

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Speaker 16: out in the early days of the administration, before all

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Speaker 16: this high pressure sales tactics began and the up selling

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Speaker 16: and all the rest. Is he was going to find

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Speaker 16: a way to economically cripple these regimes and then bring

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Speaker 16: in the diplomacy and the military treaties along with ending

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Speaker 16: the Ukraine War and ending this tormal and retrategy without

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Speaker 16: any of this. That was the Besson and Wikoff plan.

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Speaker 5: Doctor Thayer reminds me, I'm trying to get there on

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Speaker 5: here to safter and we're trying to get Hugo Lowan

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Speaker 5: here this afternoon two. We also got Steve camerad is

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Speaker 5: gonna come up in a moment, and Dave Brett's with us.

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Speaker 6: Uh.

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Speaker 12: Doctor Thay brings a good point, because you know, we

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Speaker 12: like history.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 5: The reason we like history if you understand history, you understand, hey,

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Speaker 5: the patterns of history, the cycles of history. When history's accelerating.

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Speaker 5: What we're living through now is an acceleration moment history.

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Speaker 5: You say so much things are happening, this in a

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Speaker 5: fourth turning and now it's accelerating, So it kind of

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Speaker 5: over tries to overwhelm you. What we try to do

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Speaker 5: at the war room here is make sure that you

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Speaker 5: were a still point in a turning world and World

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Speaker 5: War One. The Times of London at that time was

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Speaker 5: the paper, the global paper. It was essentially what the

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Speaker 5: Financial Times of London is today. So the Times of London,

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Speaker 5: which is a big paper today, was actually bigger than

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Speaker 5: they had a front page story at the end of

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Speaker 5: June Jack Psobic when Ferdinand and his wife were assassinated

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Speaker 5: by Serbian nationals, so the print and he was in

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Speaker 5: the line of succession for the Austrian Hungary throughout.

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Speaker 12: Which was a massive sarity of that time. He was

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Speaker 12: the heir.

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Speaker 5: His assassination by Serbian nationals made the front page and

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Speaker 5: was the lead story in the Times of London.

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Speaker 12: I think on the land day of June.

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Speaker 5: It did not have another story about it until I

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Speaker 5: think the first of August when they went to British

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Speaker 5: went to full mobilization. What happened in World War One,

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Speaker 5: same thing's kind of happening here. It was all kind

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Speaker 5: of behind the scenes of what's happening was, it wasn't

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Speaker 5: really in the public conscious. And all of a sudden,

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Speaker 5: next thing, you know, is that, Yo, we're at war

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Speaker 5: and we're doing a mobile and the Germans are mobilizing.

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Speaker 5: The von Schleiflin plants kicked in. The Germans are on

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Speaker 5: the train. They're heading to Paris, they're going through Belgium.

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Speaker 5: We've secured Belgium neutrality. We got a treaty. Oh, by

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Speaker 5: the way, the treaty is kind of a secret treaty.

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 5: We need we need British soldiers. That led to the catastrophe,

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Speaker 5: the guns of August. Europe's never recovered from that. From

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Speaker 5: that came World War two. From from the depths of

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Speaker 5: those trenches came World War two. My point, take a

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Speaker 5: deep breath, let's think this through.

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Speaker 12: Short break. Steve Camarado, Jack Basovak on the other side,

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Speaker 12: here's your host, Stephen K.

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Speaker 5: Bat Okay, while all this is going on, this one

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Speaker 5: of my issues with it about the distraction of public

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Speaker 5: attention and media attention. Steve Camerada joins US Center for

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Speaker 5: Immigration Study. If you know, we don't have ben'sman on anymore,

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Speaker 5: because Bensman's now the right hand man of brother Homan

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Speaker 5: and actually making this happen.

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Speaker 12: Steve your stories, I think kind of a bombshell.

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Speaker 5: Can you walk us through? And it's great news. Can

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Speaker 5: he walk us through exactly what's happening?

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Speaker 1: Look, yes, of course. Look, we always hear that immigration

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Speaker 1: is uncontrollable. It's like the weather.

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Speaker 17: You can find it's just search the internet. You can't

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Speaker 17: stop it. You have to accept it, get used to it. Obviously,

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Speaker 17: the massive drop somewhere around ninety three ninety five percent

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Speaker 17: in apprehensions of the border since President Trump took over

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Speaker 17: shows that that was just always absurd on its face.

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Speaker 1: But what about folks here already here? Making them go

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Speaker 1: home is not easy.

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Speaker 17: Sure, we're going to try to deport more folks, and

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Speaker 17: that makes sense, but what about people who go on

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Speaker 17: their own. We used to estimate that about three hundred

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Speaker 17: thousand illegal immigrants actually went home on their own each year.

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Speaker 17: You know, they just they've been here long enough, they

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Speaker 17: want to go back and see mom, they missed the

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Speaker 17: home country, they saved.

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Speaker 1: Enough money, what have you.

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Speaker 17: Well, we can actually estimate those numbers and I'll tell

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Speaker 17: you how in the second when we look at that data.

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Speaker 17: Every month, the government collects the current population Survey, sometimes

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Speaker 17: referred to as the household Survey. It's where we get

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Speaker 17: the unemployment numbers and a lot of other wage data.

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Speaker 17: But for more than you know, more than thirty years,

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Speaker 17: they've actually asked.

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Speaker 1: Are you far and born? Where were you born? When

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Speaker 1: did you come to America? They even ask in what

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Speaker 1: country your parents were born.

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Speaker 17: But anyway, we can use that data to get at

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Speaker 17: least a glimpse a picture of what's going on.

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Speaker 1: It's not perfect, and I can discuss that.

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Speaker 17: But when we look at that that we see a

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Speaker 17: huge decline just since January January through May in the

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Speaker 17: number of people who are from Latin America who said

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Speaker 17: that they've arrived in the last forty five years and

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Speaker 17: they're not citizens. Population is highly correlated with the illegal population.

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Speaker 17: And then when we do some other we do some

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Speaker 17: other analysis, it looks like the illegal immigrant population in

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Speaker 17: the United States fell.

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Speaker 1: By about a million just in a four month.

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Speaker 17: Period from January to May of this year. Now, we

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Speaker 17: can't say that with one hundred percent. Certainly we could

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Speaker 17: go into some of those caveats and yes, people are

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Speaker 17: missed by the survey, but we can account for some

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Speaker 17: of that and it shows a big change.

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Speaker 1: It turns out if you enforce the law.

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Speaker 17: Behavior changes and some significant fraction of people will go

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Speaker 17: home on their own.

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Speaker 5: Steve, this is huge and is backed up by Scott

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Speaker 5: Bessen's the churchy sector. He had his right hand man

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Speaker 5: on he to do their study and they said the

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Speaker 5: two percent increase to blue collar wages was principally or

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Speaker 5: a big part of it was because of the lack

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Speaker 5: of competition from illegal alien labor. And they said both

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Speaker 5: President Trump stopping it and people self deporting or leaving

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Speaker 5: a million and four month is monumental.

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Speaker 12: Do you guys have any indication at CIS Is it

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Speaker 12: just because it's in the media, Is that the ice raids?

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Speaker 12: What's driving?

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Speaker 5: Because that's just a massive number if you think about it,

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Speaker 5: of the ten many that came here, we calculate Mark

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Speaker 5: Green's twelve million, President Trump's at twenty just on Biden's watch,

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Speaker 5: that's ten percent, which is a massive number.

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Speaker 12: Do you have any idea of what you think is

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Speaker 12: causing this?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I think it is.

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Speaker 17: Remember whatever the coverage in the English language media of

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Speaker 17: enforcement and Trump's actions and so forth, and changes in policy.

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Speaker 1: The coverage in the foreign language media in the United.

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Speaker 17: States, particularly the Spanish language media, is three four times that.

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Speaker 17: As a consequence, it magnifies enforcement. It makes enforcement seem

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Speaker 17: so much more you know, potent, so much more extensive

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Speaker 17: than perhaps it really is.

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Speaker 1: But the point is matters.

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Speaker 17: Look, bottom line is if you're driving too fast on

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Speaker 17: the highway like everybody else, and you see a cop

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Speaker 17: pull somebody over, do you slow down?

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Speaker 1: Does it change your behavior?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: The cop didn't actually have to stop you. You didn't

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Speaker 1: have to pay a speeding ticket.

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Speaker 17: Just the reality is, if enforcement becomes a real possibility,

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Speaker 17: behavior changes. We see that in so many circumstances. Why

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Speaker 17: wouldn't we expect to see it here?

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Speaker 5: Todd Bensmon wrote books and really covered people coming across

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Speaker 5: I know Cis has been the lead of this. Now

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Speaker 5: that we're talking about a war and people saying, hey,

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Speaker 5: there are all kinds of sleeper sellers. There's Chinese, there's

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Speaker 5: radical Jihads, there's Persians or Ranians that you got Muslim brotherhood.

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Speaker 5: What's your sense of how big, just generally, how big

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Speaker 5: a threat that is? Is that just more conspiracy theory

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Speaker 5: or is it something that we really need to focus on.

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Speaker 1: Well, remember, if a regime as powerful as China wants

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Speaker 1: to get people in. We have a quarter of a million,

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Speaker 1: five Chinese students in the United States.

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Speaker 17: We got you know, five eight hundred thousand other legal

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Speaker 17: immigrants in the United States are not even US citizens, just.

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Speaker 1: Chinese nationals living in the United States. It's not that

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Speaker 1: hard for the Communist Party to get someone in.

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Speaker 17: So getting someone across the border might not be or

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Speaker 17: slipping into the United States some other way is not

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Speaker 17: really something they have to work that hard to to do.

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Speaker 17: But look, we have tens of thousands of Iranian students,

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Speaker 17: We give tens of thousands of people from Iran green cars,

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Speaker 17: that's permanent residency in the United States every year. Do

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Speaker 17: some come across the Border's possible that you're what you're

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Speaker 17: really raising is if you have mass immigration. Remember in January,

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Speaker 17: the number of immigrants in the United States in the

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Speaker 17: same data we've been talking about hit a record high,

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Speaker 17: a fifty three point three million.

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Speaker 1: That's all immigrants in the data.

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Speaker 17: Yes, some are missed, but that fifty three point three

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Speaker 17: million is almost sixteen percent of the population.

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Speaker 1: And that was a record in eighteen ninety.

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Speaker 17: Or nineteen ten, when last time when it hit a

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Speaker 17: peak was under fifteen percent. And so we have a

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Speaker 17: record foreign born population and does that create Does that

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Speaker 17: make it easier for those who wish to do us

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Speaker 17: harm to get in and operate in massive immigrant communities. Yeah,

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Speaker 17: it almost certainly does, And that's something to think about.

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Speaker 17: There is a national security component to mass immigration, legal

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Speaker 17: and illegal for that matter, and obviously we.

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Speaker 1: Don't really think much about that at all, even.

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Speaker 17: Though we have had foreign born spies and foreign born

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Speaker 17: terrorists a lot of them, a significant number, but it's

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Speaker 17: always a tiny fraction of the total, remember, But yeah,

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Speaker 17: it's a great question to ask, are we more vulnerable

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Speaker 17: because we have this record setting.

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Speaker 1: Level of legal immigration on top of the illegal immigration? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we probably are. I think that that's a fair assessment.

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Speaker 17: But I don't have lots of specific knowledge about how

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Speaker 17: many you know, tear sells they're tracking and what is

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Speaker 17: the immigration status of those.

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Speaker 5: It's one of the reasons. But the Ice, Yeah, it's

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Speaker 5: one of the reasons. Benson over Ice, he's one of

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Speaker 5: the experts. Steve last thing this kind of back and forth,

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Speaker 5: big agg getting to President Trump or getting people around

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Speaker 5: President Trump about stopping these ice rates. President Trump coming

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Speaker 5: out saying twenty million all gotta go home, puts that

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Speaker 5: another tweet, We're going to double triple down ice raids

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Speaker 5: in the sanctuary cities. And then he's reversed this temporary policy.

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Speaker 5: They're going to go back to ice raids for agriculture, restaurants, hotels,

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Speaker 5: all of it. How much you think, how much is

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Speaker 5: that going to help us on getting the remainder of

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Speaker 5: the nine million that I calculate are still here from

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Speaker 5: the Biden years.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 17: So bottom line is if you say, look, we're only

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Speaker 17: going after murders, robbers and rapists and terrorists if you

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Speaker 17: know who they are, I mean, that's a small fraction

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Speaker 17: of the total, right, whatever you think. I come down

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Speaker 17: on the side that the number of illegal immigrant United

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Speaker 17: States is about sixteen million, But if you think it's

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Speaker 17: twenty or ten, it doesn't really matter. The point is

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Speaker 17: most are not terrorists, murders, robbers, or rapists. So if

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Speaker 17: you want a reduction in illegal immigration, you're gonna have

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Speaker 17: to go after what we might call run of the

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Speaker 17: mill illegal immigrants. I would just add one thing about agriculture.

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Speaker 17: To remind your listeners, we already have an unlimited guest

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Speaker 17: worker program in that sector, just for that sector.

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Speaker 1: But you have to treat workers a certain way, you

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Speaker 1: have to.

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Speaker 17: Pay them a certain amount, and you have to provide

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Speaker 17: them with decent housing. And a lot of farmers are

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Speaker 17: not crazy about that. They think it's too inflexible, they

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Speaker 17: think it costs too much, but it is used. Hundreds

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Speaker 17: of thousands of people have come in under that program,

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Speaker 17: so it is used.

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Speaker 1: So if you really think we need.

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Speaker 17: Agricultural labor, that's a special case. It makes up about

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Speaker 17: four percent, maybe of all illegal immigrants in the United

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Speaker 17: States at most. But if you really think because remember

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Speaker 17: the ag sector isn't that big relative to the number

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Speaker 17: of people here the agricultural sector, if you really think that's.

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Speaker 1: Special, maybe you tweak that program.

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Speaker 17: But we already have a special So the idea that

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Speaker 17: we need to make some special allowance and let them

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Speaker 17: employ illegal immigrants, to my mind, is absurd. And of course,

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Speaker 17: remember the vast majority of illegal immigrants don't.

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Speaker 1: Work in agriculture.

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Speaker 17: So if we want to get control, we've got to

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Speaker 17: go across the board. You can't just say I'll only

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Speaker 17: do the criminals. You can start with the criminals. You

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Speaker 17: can prioritize the criminals, but that's not how you.

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Speaker 1: Enforce the law.

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Speaker 12: And that's what their heads are blown up.

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Speaker 5: Oh President Trump never said no, he said, and he

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Speaker 5: reiterated with that tweet the other day, a true social

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Speaker 5: twenty manue Camerader. Where do people go to? Cis where

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Speaker 5: they go to get you? Personally? Social media, website, all

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Speaker 5: of it.

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Speaker 17: Well, CIS has you know, you know, you know, we're

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Speaker 17: on Twitter and other social media. We have a lot

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Speaker 17: on YouTube, but cis dot org. All of our publications,

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Speaker 17: including mine, are there just cis dot org.

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Speaker 5: If Grayson Mo can push us out, everybody in the

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Speaker 5: chance to read this story and push it out. Prison

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Speaker 5: Trump's policies are working. Thank you, sir, appreciate you. Thanks

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Speaker 5: for having me brat your thoughts, your thoughts and observation.

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Speaker 15: Sir, Yeah, thank god for Camarata there. That's a bombshell.

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Speaker 2: He says.

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Speaker 15: We don't have data on a lot of this national

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Speaker 15: security thing. We do have plenty of data on last

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Speaker 15: week the Los Angeles riots, the No Kings movement across

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Speaker 15: the entire country. That was the dying gasp of the left.

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Speaker 15: I hope they went all chips in right on this

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Speaker 15: domestic war, and that's what it is. John Solomon broke

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Speaker 15: the story on illegal voting due to China. The No

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Speaker 15: Kings movement is funded by walmart airesses a bunch of elitists, globalists.

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Speaker 15: The China I think was also in on the funding

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Speaker 15: of some of the No Kings things. I'm sure Natalie

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Speaker 15: knows all that stuff. But we're in the middle of

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Speaker 15: a domestic war, right China. The elitists, the globalists, they're

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Speaker 15: all using this to topple the US regime and the

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Speaker 15: cure we have in this country, like Europe, right London.

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Speaker 15: Right now, they've lost the battle already. They have lost

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Speaker 15: their culture. They're going to have to fight to get

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Speaker 15: it back. We'll see if that happens. But in the

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Speaker 15: US Camarada's data there are promising right, So the left

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Speaker 15: I would expect them to go all in. They're going

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Speaker 15: to push all the chips in on this domestic war

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Speaker 15: because they see the numbers moving against them and the

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Speaker 15: voting if that Solomon story I want to do more

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Speaker 15: on because that is no, no, no, right. We have

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Speaker 15: the receipts now on China affecting our elections. We've said

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Speaker 15: it for years now.

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Speaker 5: We got the receipts, I've got even some of the

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Speaker 5: new federal state. You're going drew me tonight, Gove and

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Speaker 5: go through this.

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Speaker 12: Jack Pisoba, correct me if I'm wrong, brother, Strategically, is

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Speaker 12: this not the central front that we have to We

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Speaker 12: must win on this front, which is the invasion of

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Speaker 12: our country by these illegal alien invaders brought in by

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Speaker 12: this illegitimate regime called the Biden regime. Sir well steeve,

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Speaker 12: there's no questquestion.

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Speaker 16: And Kaylee mcaninney was up last night talking about this

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Speaker 16: as well, that this is President Trump's number one issue.

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Speaker 16: This is number one in polling. This is number one

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Speaker 16: what the voters want. This is the number one that

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Speaker 16: voters when they rack and stack priorities. This is the

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Speaker 16: number one reason President Trump was put into office with

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Speaker 16: the mandate of mass deportations of the legal invaders. And

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Speaker 16: you look at it from national security perspective, from a

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Speaker 16: geoeconomic perspective, from an economic perspective, just for gen Z

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Speaker 16: and everyone in Middle America, for working Americans, the mass

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Speaker 16: deportations must commence. And if they don't, you're not going

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Speaker 16: to have a country in ten twenty thirty years. The

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Speaker 16: United States of America will cease to be if we

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Speaker 16: do not take care of this issue, this massive invasion

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Speaker 16: and migrant crisis as it is right now. And there's

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Speaker 16: a lot of Republicans out there, Steve, it's not the Democrats.

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Speaker 16: There's a lot of Republicans out there that don't actually

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Speaker 16: believe that this country has been invaded by twenty and

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Speaker 16: by the way, twenty million is the lowest possible estimate

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Speaker 16: right now. There's people say thirty forty to fifty million.

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Speaker 16: Right they're Republicans who don't actually believe that this country

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Speaker 16: has been invaded, that we are bursting at the seams.

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Speaker 16: They don't want to be Every issue across the board,

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Speaker 16: from security, age by the dime, to housing, to economy

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Speaker 16: to healthcare is because of this massive invasion.

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Speaker 12: Hang on.

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Speaker 5: Two stories are gonna get to today, David Drucker. We're

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Speaker 5: going to try to get Drugger on Saffternoon. Black men

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Speaker 5: shift towards GOP may not be fleeting. And that is

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Speaker 5: in Bloomberg, not in bright Bart, not in the Gateway Pundit,

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Speaker 5: not here in the war room. That is David Drugger

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Speaker 5: from the Dispatch. No super magasite on Bloomberg, particularly, no supermgasite.

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Speaker 5: Black Men's shift towards the gooppe may not be fleeting.

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Speaker 5: Also Hugo Lowe at Hugo Lowell at the Guardian. Trump

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Speaker 5: wants to strike around only if the US can destroy

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Speaker 5: four Doors and Richmond Facility with a bunker bomb.

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Speaker 12: The Pentagon concluded earlier.

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Speaker 5: This year, they don't go deep enough, and totally destroying

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Speaker 5: ford Or requires a tactical nuke.

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Speaker 11: Hughes your hosts.

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Speaker 5: He even came back, welcome bout Burcher. Okay, you got

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Speaker 5: enough turbulence. I think it's going to get more turbulent.

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Speaker 5: What I talked about a fourth turning in the acceleration,

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Speaker 5: we're going through an acceleration phase. Remember, we say there's

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Speaker 5: decades in which nothing happens, and there are weeks in

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Speaker 5: which decades happened.

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Speaker 12: You're living through one of those weeks right now.

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Speaker 5: As we've talked about, our theory of the case is

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Speaker 5: that the whole ten years, the entire decade, President Trump

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Speaker 5: coming on the scene as a political figure and the

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Speaker 5: leader of the Mega movement, the creator and leader of

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Speaker 5: America First and the make America Great Again movement is

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Speaker 5: with the ups and downs, triumphs and tragedies, victories and defeats,

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Speaker 5: all of it. And you lived it, and most of

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Speaker 5: you in this audience worked that used your own human

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Speaker 5: agency to make sure it manifested itself, because divine providence

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Speaker 5: works through human agency. That's just a preamble for the

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Speaker 5: next couple of hundred days, because now you see the

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Speaker 5: convergence of these crises that the globalists either brought on

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Speaker 5: us or the political class just wanted to kick the

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Speaker 5: can down the road with There's no more kicking the can.

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Speaker 5: And this is why it's always good to take like

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Speaker 5: a deep breath and go We'll hang on for a second.

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Speaker 5: Let's take a deep breath. You know, we jumped into

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Speaker 5: Vietnam over the remember the Tonkin golf crisis, as we

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Speaker 5: find out later, and I don't know, maybe that wasn't

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Speaker 5: what it was made up to be right. You got

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Speaker 5: the war fever, remember the weapons of mass destruction, got

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Speaker 5: the war fever, the yellow Cake, all of it. Colin Pals,

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Speaker 5: you know, presentation to the Security Council, which you'll never

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Speaker 5: live down. Every time somebody's trying to bum rush you,

881
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Speaker 5: into something. Just say, whoa, just like a salesman on

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Speaker 5: the used car line.

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Speaker 12: WHOA. Let's take a deep breath. What are we talking

884
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Speaker 12: about here?

885
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Speaker 5: Why is this urgent? What are you asking me to do?

886
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Speaker 5: What's the outcomes of this? What's the secondary and tertiary outcomes?

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Speaker 12: What exactly?

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Speaker 5: Let's take a deep breath and think this through. Think

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Speaker 5: it through because the law of undertended consequences is essentially

890
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Speaker 5: the fog of war, and that's going to happen. That's

891
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Speaker 5: where the story with Hugo Losol explosive, because it's pretty

892
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Speaker 5: open secret. Is not Jack pisobic that hey just not.

893
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Speaker 5: You know all these people cheerleading, you know, Kaylie mcinae,

894
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Speaker 5: let's do something.

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Speaker 12: Let's go do something.

896
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Speaker 5: Don't sit in your beach chairs, put your pom poms down, Kayley.

897
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 5: You know, people have to think this through, not just

898
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Speaker 5: let's go do something. Let's go drop a bunker busting

899
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Speaker 5: bomb and put a bunch of American pilots. What did

900
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Speaker 5: Fox in with today? They prayed for the American pilots.

901
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Speaker 5: They're going to do the bombing. Run say yo, deep,

902
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Speaker 5: take a deep breath. The President drump tells you, we're

903
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Speaker 5: not there yet, Jack Posobic, your thoughts and observations, well,

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Speaker 5: see I look.

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Speaker 16: Jahm, and I read this piece as well about and

906
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Speaker 16: this is all about an assessment from the Department of Defense,

907
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Speaker 16: the Defense Threat Reduction Agency DTRRA, and their goal is

908
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Speaker 16: and I've talked about BDA on this program before, So

909
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Speaker 16: batt damage is saying, so when you're conducting a strike,

910
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Speaker 16: whether it be on a facility, whether it be on

911
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Speaker 16: a building, whether it be on a person in some

912
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Speaker 16: of these assassination strikes or a health fire strike like

913
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Speaker 16: which took out solimany back way back, when you're determining

914
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Speaker 16: what type of ordinance do you want to use for

915
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Speaker 16: what type of target? And now the enemy of course

916
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 16: gets a vote and they understand our ordinance and they

917
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Speaker 16: understand what we have as well. This is why Iran

918
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Speaker 16: employes decoys and many of their air defense sites that

919
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Speaker 16: have been struck have actually been decoys. As an old

920
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Speaker 16: Soviet deception program Moskarova, which was you know, they would

921
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Speaker 16: use inflatables, they would use the rest and of course

922
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Speaker 16: it even goes back to the US doing that Normandy

923
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Speaker 16: back in World War Two, and so one of the other,

924
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Speaker 16: of course tech tactics to defeat ordinance is to bury

925
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Speaker 16: your sites deep underground. This of course is what Iran

926
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Speaker 16: has done in this case with the fourd Oh site,

927
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Speaker 16: and so the Defense Threat Agency, the DTRA, has come

928
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Speaker 16: in to say, all right, this is our assessment, and

929
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Speaker 16: this has been briefed up to the PENN and it

930
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Speaker 16: remains to be seen whether or not this has been

931
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Speaker 16: brief directly to President Trump in these meetings where there

932
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Speaker 16: are serious questions as to whether or not these bunker

933
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Speaker 16: buster bombs would have the ability to completely take out

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Speaker 16: the facility at Fourdoh because it is so deep, because

935
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Speaker 16: it is within this mountain range south of Tehran there,

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Speaker 16: because it was built for this express purpose, if it

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Speaker 16: can penetrate all the way in. Because these bombs don't

938
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Speaker 16: have a lot of explosive power, the bunker busters what

939
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Speaker 16: their goal is. They have a giant steel casing around them.

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Speaker 16: That casing penetrates the bunker or in this case have

941
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Speaker 16: to penetrate through solid rock to get all the way

942
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Speaker 16: to the center of the mountain, and then the explosive

943
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Speaker 16: charge itself actually isn't as large compared to some of

944
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Speaker 16: the other ordinance out there. The entire goal being that

945
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Speaker 16: it's got to get through. That's why the weight is

946
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Speaker 16: so heavy, and that's why you need the be too

947
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Speaker 16: heavy bomber just to be able to carry and.

948
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Speaker 9: Launch this thing.

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Speaker 16: So they're putting up the assessment saying, hey, one bomb

950
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Speaker 16: might not be enough, you might need multiples.

951
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Speaker 9: We don't know how many strikes it would take.

952
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Speaker 16: And even going beyond that, because there are so many

953
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Speaker 16: levels on this thing, you might only be able to

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Speaker 16: take out the first couple levels. The centrifuges down at

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Speaker 16: the bottom might still be intact. And this is why,

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Speaker 16: and by the way, this is exactly why Beebe himself

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Speaker 16: pointed out that you might need commandos to infiltrate this facility,

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Speaker 16: to take it out on a direct manned mission similar

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Speaker 16: to the Binladen Rate or something like that, where they

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Speaker 16: would go in to ensure the destruction, because if you

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Speaker 16: don't destroy those centerfuges and the scientists and all the rest,

962
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Speaker 16: because it's a dispersed program, and even though this is

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Speaker 16: the largest site, they have other sites. The point being

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Speaker 16: is you might only set them back a year, you

965
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Speaker 16: might only set them back two years. And now you're

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Speaker 16: finding yourselves in a shooting war with Iran, which maybe

967
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Speaker 16: as we've said this regime change goal that they've been trying.

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Speaker 9: To upsell all along.

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Speaker 12: Jack, what's your social media? I know you got a bounce.

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Speaker 12: Thank you for spending the hour with us. Where do

971
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Speaker 12: people go to get your particularly your Twitter feed which

972
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Speaker 12: is red hot?

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Speaker 16: Well, of course, Eva until until they bam me I'm

974
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Speaker 16: up or take me out by other means before the

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Speaker 16: bunker busting bomb on bunker Posto Posto goes off.

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Speaker 9: We're up at Jack Pasovic. We're gonna be here two pm.

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Speaker 16: And of course today we will be celebrating the feast

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Speaker 16: of the Solemnity of Corpus Christy. I don't know there's

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Speaker 16: any other holidays today, but we're gonna be celebrating the

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Speaker 16: solemnity of the Holy Body and the Holy Blood of

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Speaker 16: Christ Jesus.

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Speaker 9: And you know, you know, Steve.

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Speaker 16: They they're run around telling me, hey, there's no kings,

984
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Speaker 16: there's no kings, there's no I agree, no kings, but

985
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Speaker 16: Christ because Christ is king.

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Speaker 5: There he goes Jack Pasovic, thank you so much, the

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Speaker 5: head of our writer's staff, Jack Pisovia.

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Speaker 16: Since we're doing theology these days, since we're since we're

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Speaker 16: going into theology.

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Speaker 5: And we're leaving that to the Calvinist Dave Bratt.

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Speaker 12: Okay birsch Goes I talked about turbulence.

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Speaker 5: Go to New York Times lead story yesterday when the

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Speaker 5: lead stories Chinese gonna make a pitch in Rio. Why

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Speaker 5: they've got an alternative to the dollar. Where have you

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Speaker 5: heard that before? Birch Gold dot com slash bannon that's

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Speaker 5: the promo code Bannon.

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Speaker 12: That would be me end of the dollar empire. Get it,

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Speaker 12: understand it.

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Speaker 5: You need to know the geoeconomic part of this global conflict.

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Speaker 5: And yes, Fox, we're already in the Third World War.

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Speaker 5: Ukraine's got almost two million casualties. Birch Gold dot com.

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Speaker 12: Go check it out today.

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