Speaker 1: This is Suckers.
Speaker 2: I'm Kiln Bell, I'm Dean Bell, and I'm Jared han An.
Speaker 3: iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 2: How is it going? Everybody? We are here to record
Speaker 2: our episode of Suckers.
Speaker 3: I why are you talking like that?
Speaker 2: I've already started this podcast off weird.
Speaker 4: My name is Dean Bell.
Speaker 2: I'm joined here in studio in Aruba by Kaylen Bell
Speaker 2: and Jared is joining us for once in our Lives. Jared,
Speaker 2: we're actually an hour ahead of you.
Speaker 1: Oh so it's three o'clock.
Speaker 4: It's three o'clock here in Aruba.
Speaker 1: Ah Uba. How is it Ruba? You guys look very colorful.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a nice way to say sunburn. I appreciate that.
Speaker 3: It's pretty pretty nice.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dean, Dean's turning to end pretty fast, but he's
Speaker 5: not wearing well. You were sunscreen today, which is good.
Speaker 4: What were you going to say?
Speaker 3: It was great?
Speaker 5: I really love it. It's been very relaxing. We went on
Speaker 5: a boat today.
Speaker 3: What else have we done? We've eaten a lot.
Speaker 5: I haven't really been drinking, but as I say that,
Speaker 5: we are drinking champagne. But besides this, we really haven't
Speaker 5: been drinking a lot.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Great, summation of Aruba. So far, we have gone on
Speaker 2: a boat today. We went on a boat yesterday. We
Speaker 2: went to the national park up north. And she's right,
Speaker 2: we haven't really drank that much, but we've been eating
Speaker 2: quite a bit. It's just hard to adjust to the
Speaker 2: time zone difference for me, especially, I'm not sure why
Speaker 2: we're three hours ahead, and I just can't seem to
Speaker 2: get it together right away.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why I don't like traveling very far, is
Speaker 1: because I remember when we went to Iceland, which is
Speaker 1: something along the lines. We were in La at the time,
Speaker 1: like eight hours different, something crazy like that, and so
Speaker 1: we we flew in, we took a red eye, so
Speaker 1: we tried. We got in at like six thirty in
Speaker 1: the morning Iceland time, but we hadn't slept in I
Speaker 1: don't know, twenty hours something along those lines, and so
Speaker 1: we were we were so tired, and it was nonine
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. But we're like, we can't go
Speaker 1: to bed because we were there Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday,
Speaker 1: and so we're like, we can't go to bed because
Speaker 1: it's nine in the morning. If we go to bed now,
Speaker 1: we're screwed. So we got to try to stay awake
Speaker 1: as long as possible. So what our plan in it
Speaker 1: was a terrible plan. We were like once like eleven
Speaker 1: o'clock hey, and we started really crashing. We're like, okay,
Speaker 1: let's take a two hour, three hour nap. We'll rest
Speaker 1: up for like three hours. We'll get up around two
Speaker 1: or three do our day, and then hopefully by ten
Speaker 1: o'clock tonight, because we only slept three hours, we'll be
Speaker 1: tired enough where we go to bed and get eight hours,
Speaker 1: then we'll be adjusted. Well, dumb dumb over here, and
Speaker 1: dumb dumb is me. I went to go set an
Speaker 1: alarm for two pm, and I set it for two am.
Speaker 1: So we go to sleep around like eleven, and then
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I open my eyes and it's
Speaker 1: dark out, and I'm like, wait a minute, what time
Speaker 1: is it? And I look over and it's six thirty pm,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh no, we just slept eight hours
Speaker 1: and it's six point thirty at night.
Speaker 2: And then it's like you're waking up for breakfast, but
Speaker 2: then you have to go to bed in four more hours.
Speaker 1: Oh, So of course we didn't go to BITU till
Speaker 1: like four in the morning that night, and the whole
Speaker 1: trip was just the problem was to Iceland at this time,
Speaker 1: it was wintertime. There was only about four hours of daylight,
Speaker 1: four or five hours of daylight, so it's truly you
Speaker 1: only have a few hours because Iceland's all about just
Speaker 1: driving to waterfalls or seeing natural resources, and it was
Speaker 1: you know, I don't want to do that at night
Speaker 1: because that sounds very scary, so we didn't do much.
Speaker 2: Now, I don't remember being especially jet lagged. On our
Speaker 2: season of The Bachelorette, we went to Norway, which is,
Speaker 2: you know, obviously a few hours of ahead of Iceland,
Speaker 2: but like longitude, latitudinally it's about equal similar, I would say,
Speaker 2: at least to southern to northern Iceland. So in terms
Speaker 2: of just like sunlight time, I think it's probably similar
Speaker 2: at the time of year that we were there. But
Speaker 2: I don't remember specifically being too jet lagged. I don't
Speaker 2: know why, maybe because as a young buck at the time,
Speaker 2: I was just twenty five, so.
Speaker 5: Maybe that's why you're talking about your season of Bachelorette
Speaker 5: or a trip.
Speaker 3: That you actually went.
Speaker 2: I was just talking about to Ash I you're talking
Speaker 2: about bacheloor At my bad.
Speaker 1: But you know, I mean, you still traveled for the show,
Speaker 1: so it's all kind of in the same thing.
Speaker 4: You guys went to what Ireland or something? Right?
Speaker 1: We went to Ireland and that's where I should speak
Speaker 1: closer to the mic, I sound better. That's where got
Speaker 1: We went to Ireland. We went to Dublin and that's
Speaker 1: where I had a private concert with the Cranberry's hashtag
Speaker 1: humble brag. And then we went to Kolarnie and that's
Speaker 1: where I kissed the Blarney Stone hashtag humble breg. It
Speaker 1: was cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we've been in Ireland.
Speaker 3: The jetlag here isn't bad. Why are you complaining about
Speaker 3: jet lag because.
Speaker 2: I'm suffering the consequences of it. You know exactly what
Speaker 2: I'm talking about.
Speaker 3: But it's I mean, it's like a three hour difference.
Speaker 2: Yes, But the thing is our flight left at midnight
Speaker 2: out of Denver. I had to drive us four hours
Speaker 2: while you sat comfortably in the passenger seat, and then
Speaker 2: we flew three and a half hours to Charlotte, and
Speaker 2: then we had a two hour layover. Then we flew
Speaker 2: three and a half hours here.
Speaker 5: The Red Eye definitely messed us up, but I don't
Speaker 5: think it's jet lag. I think it's it's not sleeping
Speaker 5: because of the.
Speaker 2: Red eye, but jet lag kind of also like part
Speaker 2: of jet lag is the fact that you're not sleeping
Speaker 2: very well on an airplane.
Speaker 5: I'm thinking more of like the time change you can't
Speaker 5: adjust to.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, but that's definitely part of it, definitely
Speaker 2: part of the product. But yeah, so I'm still struggling
Speaker 2: before we're here for two more days. Yeah, it's been
Speaker 2: it's been great tropical paradise. We left like it was
Speaker 2: like two feet of snow dropping on the ground in
Speaker 2: Colorado when we left, and now we're kind of a bummer, honestly,
Speaker 2: eighty five sunny humidity, a.
Speaker 5: Bummer because I'm finally into skiing and it was a great,
Speaker 5: great day to ski. Dean skied, but we had friends
Speaker 5: in town, so we skied for two days. Dean skied
Speaker 5: for four days, and then we left and Dean drove
Speaker 5: through a very scary, crazy snowstorm.
Speaker 4: So props to him, thank you.
Speaker 2: That's why I'm tired, because I had to focus so
Speaker 2: much energy on driving and getting us there safely.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So my question for you, because a lot of couples
Speaker 1: go through this do you think that the juice is
Speaker 1: worth the squeeze right now? With the jet lag, the
Speaker 1: missing of the snow, and you know, listen, this is
Speaker 1: in your honeymoon, so it's not like you have to
Speaker 1: feel guilt about being like, oh, maybe we shouldn't have
Speaker 1: done this because we're just tired and we'd rather actually
Speaker 1: be in the snow and be at home in our
Speaker 1: new house. So my question for you is, do you
Speaker 1: think thus far on your trip through Aruba, the juice
Speaker 1: has been worth the squeeze?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I do.
Speaker 5: I think it's so nice, so relaxing. It's nice to
Speaker 5: change it up being in the dead of winter right now.
Speaker 5: I guess we're approaching spring. But it's nice to come
Speaker 5: here and lay on the beach and be a little mindless.
Speaker 2: It's nice to leave winter paradise to go to a
Speaker 2: tropical paradise.
Speaker 4: So it is nice.
Speaker 2: It is very, very nice, and I'm so happy to
Speaker 2: be here, and we're here for the perfect amount of time.
Speaker 2: I think too, Like Monday to Friday is great because
Speaker 2: if it's like Friday to Sunday, it feels like you
Speaker 2: don't have enough time. If it's Monday to Monday, you
Speaker 2: feel like you're spending a little bit too much time
Speaker 2: away from home. So I do think that we kind
Speaker 2: of nailed it right in the head timing wise.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we were supposed to go straight from here to Italy,
Speaker 5: and then we were sad about leaving al So we're
Speaker 5: gonna go home for a week and then go to Italy,
Speaker 5: which'll be nice.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I just wish that it was easier to fly with
Speaker 2: dogs internationally, and.
Speaker 3: We had a dog that's nicer.
Speaker 2: But yeah, both, Well, it's not like he's going to
Speaker 2: be Yeah, we've traveled with him before, and I see
Speaker 2: your point, But I just wish that he could fly
Speaker 2: with us, Like, can we get him a passport.
Speaker 5: Or something, a dog passport. He just has to be quarantined,
Speaker 5: I'm pretty sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, But then by the time he's done quarantine, it's
Speaker 2: time to go home.
Speaker 3: It's not really worth it.
Speaker 1: I mean, these are so small, kit you just put
Speaker 1: him in a nice little handbag and put him underneath
Speaker 1: the seat.
Speaker 4: That's what we do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think what pawn arrival at least Hawaii,
Speaker 2: I don't you're kinda are you sure about that?
Speaker 5: No, I only know about Hawaii, And well, you were
Speaker 5: trying to bring a dog back from Nepal.
Speaker 3: So I know about Nepal's rules. I don't know about Europe.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: It's also like more enjoyable to not have him on
Speaker 5: a trip, to worry about taking him out, to worry
Speaker 5: about if he's going to bite someone at a restaurant,
Speaker 5: if we're going to kicked out of a restaurant like
Speaker 5: we have.
Speaker 2: I disagree. I want him with me at all times.
Speaker 2: I would take him everywhere if I could.
Speaker 5: So, Deane's the reason we're not going to Italy. We
Speaker 5: just need we just need to go home and see
Speaker 5: how I'm the.
Speaker 2: Reason we're not going in Italy. We are still going
Speaker 2: to Italy. And when we confirmed that we weren't going,
Speaker 2: you were jumping up and down with excitement at home,
Speaker 2: and you literally looked me in the eyes and you said,
Speaker 2: I can't believe I'm the girl that's excited about not
Speaker 2: going to Italy now.
Speaker 5: Because going back to back trips was a lot, and
Speaker 5: packing for eighty degree weather and then packing for sixty
Speaker 5: degree weather was scinon.
Speaker 3: Is dressing me out?
Speaker 5: And I we don't check bags, so packing that in
Speaker 5: a carry on, I did it, but I wasn't happy
Speaker 5: about it.
Speaker 2: I'm not saying you're wrong. I'm just saying, don't blame
Speaker 2: it on me when you're saying that you when you
Speaker 2: were jumping up.
Speaker 4: I know you do. I know you do.
Speaker 2: This is the life that I've signed up for, and
Speaker 2: that's totally fine. I've totally agreed and I'm totally down
Speaker 2: with it. But yeah, so here we are in Aruba.
Speaker 2: It's been great. It's been perfect weather, a little bit windy,
Speaker 2: but it is what it is. Eighty five and sunny
Speaker 2: every single day and we're just having a black.
Speaker 1: You guys have any like cute couple of things that
Speaker 1: you're doing.
Speaker 5: Just dinners every night. It's like a very romantic honeymoon
Speaker 5: esque spot. It's like people are either on their honeymoons
Speaker 5: or it's people with time shares or just retirees on vacation.
Speaker 3: It seems like.
Speaker 2: Or we're trying to get the young people to be
Speaker 2: interested in it now too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they should be. It's great.
Speaker 5: I mean it's it really has been a great vacation. Yeah,
Speaker 5: and super easy to get to.
Speaker 2: Super easy to get too. We're working with the tourism board,
Speaker 2: so it's been it's been a fantastic experience so far,
Speaker 2: And if anyone's listening to this podcast, we are probably
Speaker 2: going to talk about it on Been There Dean that
Speaker 2: next week, so we'll get into some more depth about it,
Speaker 2: about our daily routine and our and our itinerary and
Speaker 2: what we've done and where we ate and all those things.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like it's a Caribbean island, but and we'll talk
Speaker 5: more about that on your podcast. But there's a lot
Speaker 5: to do, whereas I feel like a lot of Caribbean islands,
Speaker 5: you're kind of just I don't know, on an island.
Speaker 3: But there, we went on to a national park.
Speaker 5: There's hikes, there's there's more than just the beach, which
Speaker 5: is nice.
Speaker 4: How is it up in Rhode Island?
Speaker 1: Uh? Cold, It's cold and crappy out right now, but
Speaker 1: it was nice the other day it was like sixteen Sonny.
Speaker 1: I was actually thinking yesterday because Ashley has a doctor
Speaker 1: appointment down in Virginia next week, so she is going
Speaker 1: to go early to see her family. I have to
Speaker 1: work a couple extra days. She'll leave a couple of
Speaker 1: days before me and then I'll meet up with her.
Speaker 1: But I was thinking as well, and I felt that
Speaker 1: saying this to her face, but I did, which was
Speaker 1: I love visiting your family, but I can't stay at
Speaker 1: your parents' house for more than a few days anymore.
Speaker 1: I think at that stage because I love them so much,
Speaker 1: I love spending time with them, it's truly not them.
Speaker 1: It's more so I need my I don't have a
Speaker 1: car there, I don't have my stuff there, I don't
Speaker 1: have my routine there. So like I'm just the type
Speaker 1: of person where I am very much like go go, go,
Speaker 1: go go. So if I'm not an Audrey, so I'm
Speaker 1: down here, I'm on the computer, but then I'm also
Speaker 1: like getting the garage together, or setting up a studio downstairs,
Speaker 1: or cleaning up the basement, or like just doing things
Speaker 1: around the house, or running errands, or like cleaning up
Speaker 1: the cars, and like going to the gym, and these
Speaker 1: things that I can't do anymore. I can't do down
Speaker 1: there because it's like I always had the ass to
Speaker 1: use her mom's car, and then I always feel terrible
Speaker 1: because you know, her Mom's like, oh, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: to the grocery store later, and I'm like, oh, don't.
Speaker 1: Like I don't need to go to the gym. I
Speaker 1: final I'll just do like push up downstairs. I can't
Speaker 1: put a burden on her. So it's just like and
Speaker 1: then it's it's nice having the help, but I wish
Speaker 1: I just I was like, should we just like buy
Speaker 1: a piece of crab car that we just have down
Speaker 1: there so we have the freedom and where I can
Speaker 1: be like, oh, I'm just gonna run or I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go here, or I'm going to do that or so
Speaker 1: on and so forth. It's really just like the lack
Speaker 1: of freedom.
Speaker 2: There's something about being a guy where it's just like
Speaker 2: you just want to have you want to have something
Speaker 2: that's going to take you away from being at home
Speaker 2: for an hour, whether it's like running errands or going
Speaker 2: to the store or working out something like that, just
Speaker 2: like an hour to yourself where you're just like music's
Speaker 2: on and and you can just you know, do just
Speaker 2: do guy stuff for an hour.
Speaker 1: I know, I've been working out in the morning, which
Speaker 1: has been great unless I have to open Audrey's. But
Speaker 1: uh yeah, dude, it's just like I need that. And
Speaker 1: I can't tell if Ashley needs that. Kaelin, do you
Speaker 1: need that.
Speaker 3: Like time alone working out? What do you mean, like.
Speaker 1: You I I feel selfish saying it, but like I
Speaker 1: also wake up before Dawson and Ashley wake up to
Speaker 1: ensure that I'm not infringing on their time. But like
Speaker 1: I need to go to the gym and I need
Speaker 1: to just like be alone for a part of the day.
Speaker 1: Not a long extended period of time, but like if
Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, I'm gonna go get a coffee and
Speaker 1: Ashley's like, oh, I'll come with you, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I love you so much, I'll bring Dawson, but like
Speaker 1: I need, I need to be in my own head.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I guilty here as well.
Speaker 5: Well, I definitely need that time to work out, Like
Speaker 5: I feel really bad and gross if I don't have
Speaker 5: I don't work.
Speaker 3: Out like five times a week, So I need that time.
Speaker 5: And I like being in my car alone, like listening
Speaker 5: to my music or my podcast, So I get that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think Ashley is the weird one. I really do.
Speaker 1: She like never needs that and it's the most I mean,
Speaker 1: I think I've talked about this podcast before and it's
Speaker 1: the most endearing, sweetest, most wonderful thing. But it's like
Speaker 1: I feel terrible because I'm like I just need, you know, like,
Speaker 1: even I love going to the gym in the morning.
Speaker 1: It's like gets my day going. I love it so much.
Speaker 1: It's like I get up, I do my thing. But
Speaker 1: then she's told me on numerous occasions, she's like, I
Speaker 1: miss you being home when I wake up. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: ohh no, and she says it in such an endearing
Speaker 1: and wonderful way. How could you possibly ever be mad
Speaker 1: at that? But she's like, I'm not saying that I
Speaker 1: don't want you to go to the gym, but like,
Speaker 1: do you have to go to the gym every morning,
Speaker 1: maybe like once or twice, and then you go later
Speaker 1: in the afternoon the other days. I'm like, no, that's
Speaker 1: I don't want to do that. I want to go
Speaker 1: to the gym five or six times a week in
Speaker 1: the morning, like get my day going. That's how I am.
Speaker 1: She's like, I just miss waking up and having you there.
Speaker 1: It's like it's just a different vibe. And I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's so sweet and you're so wonderful, but like I
Speaker 1: can't do that for you. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, and there is something to be said about working
Speaker 2: out in the morning too. It just does set the
Speaker 2: day off on it a good note, but there are
Speaker 2: times where like I don't want you to feel like
Speaker 2: bad or guilty about that, because I'm the exact same way. Like,
Speaker 2: for instance, when we were in Bozeman for Christmas and
Speaker 2: we were about to drive from Bozeman to our new
Speaker 2: house in Colorado. To Kaylin, I was like, you could
Speaker 2: drive with me for it's eleven hours to get to
Speaker 2: boat to Colorado. You can ride with me in the car,
Speaker 2: or you can fly to Denver and take that car
Speaker 2: and drive that up to Carbondale. And in my head,
Speaker 2: I was like, I think it's kind of a win
Speaker 2: win because Kaylin doesn't have to sit in the car
Speaker 2: with me for eleven hours. You know, I get a
Speaker 2: like there's just something about like listening to the music
Speaker 2: that I want to listen to, to listening to the crappy
Speaker 2: podcast that I like to listen to, getting to pee
Speaker 2: on my own schedule, and not having to worry, you know,
Speaker 2: there is something nice about that where obviously marriage is
Speaker 2: the best thing in the entire world, but I think
Speaker 2: people still need the time to be by themselves and
Speaker 2: like function as an individual.
Speaker 4: Sometimes No, I one.
Speaker 3: Hundred percent agree.
Speaker 5: I think there's like two different relationships, Like we function
Speaker 5: really well when he goes on trips for like a
Speaker 5: week or two weeks, even you haven't done for a while.
Speaker 5: But I think we function really well when we have
Speaker 5: that time of part and then we come back together,
Speaker 5: or if it's just like a weekend or whatever. But
Speaker 5: then there's some couples who who don't have that and
Speaker 5: function perfectly fine.
Speaker 3: I think we're just unique in that way.
Speaker 2: I just I'm so used to being alone that I
Speaker 2: when I'm alone, I think I think more interestingly in
Speaker 2: a way. I don't know how to describe it, but
Speaker 2: like when all I have to do is think about
Speaker 2: my own thoughts, I just feel like my brain goes
Speaker 2: to weird or darker, not darker, but like more interesting places.
Speaker 2: And when I'm around you, or even if I'm like
Speaker 2: watching TV or whatever it is, it my brain like
Speaker 2: allows itself to like tap out before I get to
Speaker 2: that weirdly interesting place. And when you're alone, like you're
Speaker 2: allowed to kind of pursue those avenues mentally and see
Speaker 2: just like.
Speaker 4: How weird you really are alone. I love it.
Speaker 2: I think I do think there is so much of
Speaker 2: a benefit to it, where it's like you'll never fully
Speaker 2: realize how weird you are until you spend you know,
Speaker 2: a certain amount of time by yourself.
Speaker 3: I never knew it was about weirdness.
Speaker 2: I love being weird. I think weird is the most
Speaker 2: underrated thing in the history of humanity.
Speaker 3: I like being alone just because I feel like I'm
Speaker 3: more productive.
Speaker 2: Yeah that's cool, but yeah, yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Well, I think both are kind of I think both
Speaker 1: are true because when Dean was saying his place, his
Speaker 1: mind goes weird places are like he does, he thinks
Speaker 1: more interesting thoughts. I do the same thing. Like when
Speaker 1: I'm alone, I'll listen to poetry. Yeah, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: I never listened to poetry, but yeah, I'm alone, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like thinking about life and death and these
Speaker 1: you know, space and stars. And then so I'm listening
Speaker 1: to poetry and then like I'm listening to you know,
Speaker 1: words about like if I were to die tomorrow, don't
Speaker 1: weep at my grave? And it's just like why I
Speaker 1: would never do that with Ashley and so, but like
Speaker 1: I like having those thoughts. I like that, And then
Speaker 1: I think it should just be more acceptable to be
Speaker 1: with someone but also be willing to spend time away
Speaker 1: from that person. It's hard, right because like when Ashley
Speaker 1: goes to Virginia, she's going to be on a flight
Speaker 1: with Dawson. So my initial thought when she wanted to
Speaker 1: do this, I was like, well, you're gonna be okay without,
Speaker 1: you know, with Dawson. That's that's hard. You're flying by
Speaker 1: yourself with him. She's like, no, he's fine now. And
Speaker 1: then of course I'm like, well, if something happens when
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to be there to make sure
Speaker 1: everything's okay. So like whenever she leaves or if I leave, like,
Speaker 1: of course, all these dark, intrusive thoughts come in and
Speaker 1: that's what stops us from being apart. But also, at
Speaker 1: the same time, like Kalyn you said, when we are
Speaker 1: away from a few days, like it really brings like
Speaker 1: new life when we're back together in appreciation and it's
Speaker 1: just like nice moments.
Speaker 3: I don't know, Yeah, no, I agree.
Speaker 5: I think it's important to have time apart because you're
Speaker 5: still an individual and you shouldn't forget those two different
Speaker 5: parts of each other, you know, like we're too completely different, Jules,
Speaker 5: and being alone reminds me of who I am individually.
Speaker 5: And then obviously who you are individually, weird and all.
Speaker 2: Yeah you disagree, Uh No, I don't at all. I
Speaker 2: think you nailed it right on the head.
Speaker 3: Thanks.
Speaker 2: I think that, I think to Jared's point, though, I
Speaker 2: think I enjoy being alone a lot more than you do.
Speaker 2: Not to say that you don't enjoy it, but it's
Speaker 2: almost something that I like seek out. I want to
Speaker 2: be alone, whereas you you're you're super comfortable and happy
Speaker 2: to be alone. But I don't think you'd necessarily seek
Speaker 2: it out as much as as other of us do.
Speaker 5: I think you're more comfortable asking for that time alone,
Speaker 5: whereas I feel bad asking for it. But I love
Speaker 5: being alone, I really do. I love it so much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because you can read your book on full brightness
Speaker 2: in the middle of the night and after worry about it. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that must be nice. No, but I mean yeah, I
Speaker 2: fully see where you're coming from. I dont think you
Speaker 2: should fel guilty about it, Jared, because I think especially too,
Speaker 2: like I'm sure there are times where Ashley leans on
Speaker 2: you to be a parent more so so like, yes,
Speaker 2: it might suck leaving Dawson behind for a couple hours,
Speaker 2: but I'm sure you more than make up for it.
Speaker 2: On the other side of it too, like when she
Speaker 2: has to go do something, you know.
Speaker 1: I guess I wish Ashley would ask me for a
Speaker 1: lone time more.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, because it does me.
Speaker 1: No, I mean it's tough for like, for example, her
Speaker 1: sister was in town and last week Lauren her best friend,
Speaker 1: and I was like, you should do something when Lauren
Speaker 1: is here, like, I'll take care of Dawson. You guys
Speaker 1: go like get a massage or get a do whatever
Speaker 1: you guys want to do. And She's like, all I
Speaker 1: want to do is just like hang on the couch
Speaker 1: with Lauren. I'm like, all right, I can't help, Like sure, okay, great,
Speaker 1: that's wonderful, but like I want you to do something
Speaker 1: with Lauren and I take care of Dawson. So when
Speaker 1: the time comes when I'm like can I play golf,
Speaker 1: You're like cool, great, yep, because exactly it's never even
Speaker 1: She's like, no, I just want to hang out. And
Speaker 1: I was like, well, do you want me to take Dawson.
Speaker 1: She's like, no, Dawson can hang he just runs around.
Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, well, I guess I'll just feel
Speaker 1: like a piece of shit all the time. Then don't
Speaker 1: mind me.
Speaker 5: I think she needs to be invited on a fun
Speaker 5: girls trip and then be reminded how great they are
Speaker 5: because they are so fun. So me, her and Jess
Speaker 5: will go in a girl's strip and then she'll be like,
Speaker 5: oh wait, this is great.
Speaker 1: I would love that. I would love that for her. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean she can't do that right now because she's
Speaker 1: pray goes.
Speaker 2: She's just I mean I say the same thing to
Speaker 2: Kaln often too. She's like, I've got these flight credits.
Speaker 2: I don't know what to do. I'm like, oh, go
Speaker 2: to France and spend a week in France by yourself and.
Speaker 3: What did I buy? T kids to Paris?
Speaker 2: Yeah, and hey, hopefully it ends up happening. But to
Speaker 2: Jared's point too, like I do agree where it's like, I,
Speaker 2: you know, I don't know how to say this, but
Speaker 2: like if I want to go to la for a
Speaker 2: weekend and golf with my friends, it would be great.
Speaker 2: If you're like, oh, okay, that's totally fine because I
Speaker 2: was just in France for a week by myself and
Speaker 2: Dina's at home taking care of the dog in the
Speaker 2: house and all that stuff. There is like a it's
Speaker 2: like kind of like a tit for tat situation. And
Speaker 2: I'm not saying any marriage needs to be tit for
Speaker 2: tat or like it should be that way, but there
Speaker 2: is like a psychological thing to it where it's like
Speaker 2: I did this, and so now you can do that
Speaker 2: kind of thing, you know?
Speaker 4: Is that wrong to say?
Speaker 1: Mm?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I'm sure some people will think.
Speaker 2: It's feels wrong to say, but there is it isn't
Speaker 2: tit for tat.
Speaker 5: It does feel I think because I want to go
Speaker 5: see Mkay in Florida. If I go to Florida and
Speaker 5: then you're going to Oregon on a golf.
Speaker 3: Trip, it makes sense.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: It's probably wrong according to some therapist, probably, But is.
Speaker 1: It a weird Is it weird that you just you
Speaker 1: go through Like for example, when did you guys start
Speaker 1: dating Dean? How old were you?
Speaker 4: I was twenty eight?
Speaker 3: Really sev twenty three?
Speaker 4: Twenty seven?
Speaker 1: I was twenty seven then, so even at twenty three,
Speaker 1: you know, and then Dean you twenty seven. Let's call
Speaker 1: it like you went through twenty seven years of your life. No,
Speaker 1: granted a lot of that was kids, but like when
Speaker 1: you reach teenage years, you start becoming much more independent.
Speaker 1: I mean, you went through teen years of your life
Speaker 1: just like by yourself, and then one day you and
Speaker 1: Kaitlin get together, and of course you love each other
Speaker 1: more than anything, but like you're supposed to kind of
Speaker 1: like flip the switch and then just be like, well,
Speaker 1: I can't be by my like I was always by myself.
Speaker 1: Now I feel guilty forever being by myself. And it's
Speaker 1: such a flip. Yeah, And I'm like, I don't know
Speaker 1: if that's the way it's supposed to be. I agree,
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: No, I see where you're coming from. I think about
Speaker 2: this all the time. I even talked about it on
Speaker 2: Been There Dean that a little bit where one of
Speaker 2: the episodes that you aren't on. But it's just so
Speaker 2: nice to be alone and I'm thirsty. Let me go
Speaker 2: to this shop and grab a coffee. I don't have
Speaker 2: to necessarily Like, it's just nice to focus on yourself
Speaker 2: and what you want without having to necessarily take someone
Speaker 2: else's emotions into consideration. Not that that's about like I
Speaker 2: love taking your emotions in consideration, but there are times
Speaker 2: where it's nice to just like only focus on yourself,
Speaker 2: and especially you, Jared, now that you're married with two
Speaker 2: a second kid on the way, you're gonna have no
Speaker 2: You're gonna have no time to yourself to really think
Speaker 2: about it, nothing, and so you really do have to
Speaker 2: savor those small moments that you get. We're obviously not
Speaker 2: quite there yet. I do think that it's it. We're
Speaker 2: kind of so, at least me personally, I'm still breaking
Speaker 2: through the mold. Even though we've been together for five
Speaker 2: years now, I'm still breaking through the mode of being
Speaker 2: completely individualistic and independent too. Like I've gotten a lot better,
Speaker 2: I think, at taking your emotions and considerations into my
Speaker 2: daily routine.
Speaker 4: But I'm still not perfect at it.
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not even I wouldn't even say I'm
Speaker 2: really good at it to be, to be perfectly honest.
Speaker 2: But I'm still like getting there, you know, and then
Speaker 2: we're gonna get there, and then you're gonna have to
Speaker 2: also become more selfless later on. So to your credit, Jared,
Speaker 2: I do think that you know, you do have to
Speaker 2: savor those small moments that whenever you are able to
Speaker 2: get them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think people are going to take it
Speaker 1: out of context where we talk about you know, you
Speaker 1: taking Kalin's feelings into account or Kayln taking Dean's feelings
Speaker 1: into account. People are like, oh, you're so selfish. It's not.
Speaker 1: My purpose of this conversation was like legitimately, if I
Speaker 1: needed to go to Walmart, if I needed to go
Speaker 1: to Target, you know, and be like, oh, I'm going
Speaker 1: to go, Like I can't do that anymore. I can't
Speaker 1: just like, oh, I'm going to go. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna leave Dawson. I'm not gonna leave Ashley
Speaker 1: alone with Dawson while I'm gone for like an hour
Speaker 1: and a half shopping. It's like, oh, okay, Ashley, do
Speaker 1: you want to come? Should I take Dawson? Or like
Speaker 1: even with you guys, you know, like it's like you
Speaker 1: almost feel bad wanting to go to the store by yourself,
Speaker 1: and it's I don't know, I just have these thoughts.
Speaker 1: I'm like, why do I feel guilty about that? Why
Speaker 1: should she feel guilty?
Speaker 5: Because people are judging. I think that's exactly the reason
Speaker 5: why people just like to judge, And it's not I
Speaker 5: feel like our generation we're being honest, like fully honest
Speaker 5: about how we're feeling, like we need time alone, and
Speaker 5: maybe the older generation or I don't know, but people
Speaker 5: find it so easy to judge that, like wanting time alone,
Speaker 5: thinking like you should be with your partner twenty four
Speaker 5: to seven.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's healthy.
Speaker 4: Are you sure? Is that what you think?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 4: I agree, I believe you.
Speaker 3: I can't be with you twenty four seven.
Speaker 2: The only reason I asked that because after you finish
Speaker 2: your sentence, you look down at the ground, so I
Speaker 2: wasn't sure if that was like a tell.
Speaker 5: Of uh, that's where our recording device.
Speaker 4: See. Okay, that makes sense.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like for your guys' purposes, you're obviously in
Speaker 1: a ruver right now, and then you're going to be
Speaker 1: in Italy. How long you in Italy?
Speaker 3: For a week?
Speaker 5: But what's nice is Dean's going to go to LA
Speaker 5: for a couple of days, and I think just being
Speaker 5: on a trip being together NonStop, which is fun and
Speaker 5: we're having a great time, but I think a great
Speaker 5: way for us to reset, And like I am very
Speaker 5: introverted and I reset by being alone. A great way
Speaker 5: for us to reset is just by being apart for
Speaker 5: a little bit.
Speaker 1: That's all I was going to ask in the week
Speaker 1: that you're home. If you guys have plans like, oh,
Speaker 1: Dean's gonna go away and I'm gonna go away and we're
Speaker 1: going to come of like not necessarily.
Speaker 4: We get back.
Speaker 2: We're back for a week and then I go to
Speaker 2: LA for a couple days, and then I fly from
Speaker 2: La to Italy to meet you. Basically La to Colorado,
Speaker 2: Colorado to Italy and then we go from there. So, yes,
Speaker 2: there is there is a certain thing.
Speaker 5: Just me that we were complicated. We're home for three days,
Speaker 5: then Dean leaves for LA and then we go to Italy.
Speaker 4: Home for five days.
Speaker 1: But you're flying to Italy to get yes, yes, okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: I was like, that would be a little weird if
Speaker 1: you flew across the Atlantic.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you what those Jared to the credit of
Speaker 2: this conversation. I wouldn't hate it.
Speaker 1: It'd be nice and it would be quite romantic if
Speaker 1: you met up at the airport in Rome.
Speaker 2: I love flying with Kaylen to get too far. I
Speaker 2: love flying with Kaelin, but there are certain like if
Speaker 2: I want to fart on the airplane, if I fired
Speaker 2: next to Kalyn, she'd be mad at me.
Speaker 4: If I fired next to a stranger. They wouldn't even
Speaker 4: beat Nihlish.
Speaker 5: They would they would judge you. Where did we just
Speaker 5: fly from with the suites? Africa, Melbourne?
Speaker 3: Melbourne.
Speaker 5: We flew from Melbourne and we had we had suites
Speaker 5: which was greatly down bed. And he kept the partition
Speaker 5: up the entire time that was back from Yeah, I
Speaker 5: kept like lowering the partition. I'm like, hey, can can
Speaker 5: I see you? And he would just raise.
Speaker 3: It back up.
Speaker 2: I'd be like, sorry, I'm too busy watching this show
Speaker 2: for the ninety fifth time.
Speaker 3: So it was basically like we flew separately.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then we got off the airplane and we
Speaker 2: get a hold hands and walk to the next gate together.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it was fine. I didn't mind it, Honestly.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying I know that marriage is a union
Speaker 2: and companionship there are.
Speaker 4: That doesn't mean that you need to do everything.
Speaker 3: Together, including flying.
Speaker 2: Sometimes it's nice to just like be in your own
Speaker 2: head and just think about what you want to think
Speaker 2: about and focus on yourself.
Speaker 3: I do agree, Dean.
Speaker 1: I'm going to ask you something because you'll understand. So,
Speaker 1: when you fart on an airplane, do you like push
Speaker 1: down on the seat like I in my warped brain.
Speaker 1: When I'm in a plane and it's like I'm gonna fart, sorry,
Speaker 1: I will like try to suffocate it, not even the sound,
Speaker 1: but like in my warped brain, I think it minimizes
Speaker 1: the smell if I like push down on the seat and.
Speaker 2: Make it affocate into the cushion a little bit. Yeah, no,
Speaker 2: I don't. I've got to tried and truth.
Speaker 1: You lift your leg, do you?
Speaker 2: I've got to tried and truth. Do you know what
Speaker 2: it is?
Speaker 3: You asked me to squeeze you?
Speaker 4: No? No, no, so what was that?
Speaker 1: I've got to try.
Speaker 2: If I know I've got a fart coming, I'll make
Speaker 2: her squeeze me so I can blame it on her.
Speaker 2: I was like, oh, you squeeze me, so it's your
Speaker 2: fault that I farted. It's a very cute thing that
Speaker 2: I do. I've got a tried and true system of
Speaker 2: farting in public is if you can somehow indiscreetly is
Speaker 2: it indiscreete or if you somehow could discreetly read it down?
Speaker 2: So you guys know, the reason a fart makes sound
Speaker 2: is because it's it's literally like it's your butt cheeps,
Speaker 2: butt cheeks flapping, together. So if you can somehow discreetly
Speaker 2: reach down and kind of spread one out a little bit,
Speaker 2: you can mute the sound of it by not letting
Speaker 2: your butt cheeks flap together through the fart.
Speaker 3: Or he'll fart with his headphones on and he's like,
Speaker 3: no one heard that.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, that just happened the other day. That
Speaker 2: was the first time it ever happened. We're walking through
Speaker 2: the airport in Charlotte and I farted and I was like,
Speaker 2: I think that was kind of loud. And I take
Speaker 2: my headphones off and I was like, did you hear that?
Speaker 2: And she goes yeah, and so did everyone else around?
Speaker 3: You too, said he's gonna throw up in me too?
Speaker 4: Yeah? She get off the part talk.
Speaker 1: I guess I find it quite entertaining.
Speaker 2: Oh hey, did Ashley ever notice that you unfollowed her on?
Speaker 2: And I'm sorry muted her on? Wait you did unfollow her?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Did you?
Speaker 1: I unfollowed her? Guys, I have admission her back an
Speaker 1: hour after the podcast. Of course, I followed her back.
Speaker 1: And you know what's funny is that I was talking
Speaker 1: about it when I posted the clip on Instagram for
Speaker 1: social and she was like, who are you talking about unfollowing,
Speaker 1: and I said, uh, the one, the person sitting right
Speaker 1: next to me. And she goes, you were gonna unfollow
Speaker 1: me and I said, I did unfollow you, but it
Speaker 1: only lasted, you know, an hour. She's like, honestly, I
Speaker 1: would have never noticed. I would never have noticed. And
Speaker 1: I said, I know, you wouldn't have noticed. That was
Speaker 1: the whole purpose of the podcast. Yeah, And then of
Speaker 1: course she was like, oh my god, you would have
Speaker 1: called such a stir. Thank god you to do it.
Speaker 4: Whatever.
Speaker 2: Also, here's the thing with Ashley though, if she'll if
Speaker 2: she understands anything, which is obviously many things, but specifically this,
Speaker 2: she understands more than anybody doing something for the bit,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, like a radio bit content bit,
Speaker 2: she would have fully understood doing it for the bit.
Speaker 4: And I think that she would have totally understood.
Speaker 1: That's why I told her. I was like. She was like,
Speaker 1: I don't want any press about us, possibly like breaking up.
Speaker 1: I said, first of all, that would never happen. Secondly,
Speaker 1: it's all just who cares. It's all all press is
Speaker 1: good press, right, what.
Speaker 2: They say, that's what they say. I don't necessarily agree
Speaker 2: with it, but that's what they say.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I caved, but she was not happy that I
Speaker 1: even did it for a little while, so if I
Speaker 1: did it for longer, she would have been even more
Speaker 1: pissed at me. But I haven't muted anybody. I can't
Speaker 1: think of anybody. I got nothing. You know what it is.
Speaker 1: I just don't care if I see their post. You
Speaker 1: know who, I'll never Okay, I can't. I actually can't
Speaker 1: say it.
Speaker 3: Come on, can we bleep the name?
Speaker 1: So there is a I mean, you guys know exactly.
Speaker 1: I don't follow him, but I have access to the
Speaker 1: Audrey's account, Coffeehouse and Lounge and the social media manager Sydney,
Speaker 1: who obviously became a little bit of a villain on
Speaker 1: this season. She followed a bunch of Bachelor people when
Speaker 1: we first opened up, and one of the Bachelor alums
Speaker 1: that she followed posts the cringiest I've ever seen in
Speaker 1: my entire I know, let's it.
Speaker 3: I have to know, and.
Speaker 1: I'm sure this person's very nice.
Speaker 3: You don't have to preface.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I want to keep this
Speaker 1: in because I feel so bad.
Speaker 3: But it's oh, muted, muted.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, I can't have I have to watch, I
Speaker 1: oh to watch. It's just it comes up and it's
Speaker 1: just like it's like it's like watching one of those
Speaker 1: it is. I don't know if I'm gonna watch it
Speaker 1: with one eye because I can't put both eyes on this,
Speaker 1: but like I got to watch it with one eye
Speaker 1: and it makes me feel better and then like I'll
Speaker 1: slowly back up from the screen as I'm watching the video.
Speaker 1: But it's like I have to see this. So I
Speaker 1: don't know if we can keep that in because.
Speaker 2: I think the reason I think, the reason that you
Speaker 2: say it as you say it too, is when you
Speaker 2: talk about anyone else, there's a lot of people that
Speaker 2: have there's like certain characteristics that make you really dislike,
Speaker 2: not really dislike them, but there are certain things that
Speaker 2: maybe you just like don't really vibe with super Well,
Speaker 2: he's just such a good guy. We're that too, and
Speaker 2: so for for because I am in the same boat
Speaker 2: as you. No, yes, that's what I'm saying. He is
Speaker 2: such a good guy. There really aren't many. He's just
Speaker 2: kind of like, you know, he's kind of nerdy in
Speaker 2: a cute, very adorable way. I'm just saying the reason
Speaker 2: that Jared feels so guilty about it is because there's
Speaker 2: really no like he doesn't have like a negative leg
Speaker 2: to lean on, Whereas like when I say, when I
Speaker 2: say I muted people, I'm like, oh, yeah, but like
Speaker 2: you know, don't necessarily like this. But Jerry's just saying
Speaker 2: like it's a little cringey. Yeah, but it's not like
Speaker 2: he's doing it. It's not like he's you know what
Speaker 2: I mean.
Speaker 1: I don't know, And I feel bad because I don't
Speaker 1: want to rain on someone's parade when they're trying something
Speaker 1: you don't want to there. I can't even say what
Speaker 1: this person is trying because it's a dead giveaway. But
Speaker 1: it's just like one of those things where you're like,
Speaker 1: oh golly, just I cannot believe some of the stuff.
Speaker 5: I agree, but don't you think maybe I'm wrong? Do
Speaker 5: you think that they're getting cringier as the years go on?
Speaker 5: The contestants mostly male? Do you think the male contestants
Speaker 5: are getting cringier?
Speaker 1: Yes, because I think that that's what works, and they're
Speaker 1: gonna do whatever works.
Speaker 3: I don't think so well, Okay, so your guy, you
Speaker 3: guys were like humble and nice, and then I feel
Speaker 3: like we went in too and nice and nice. I
Speaker 3: feel like we went into like a like a different
Speaker 3: breed of men where they're like doing photo shoots constantly.
Speaker 2: And I think every season has had that type, Like
Speaker 2: there's been like a pool of like five people that
Speaker 2: have had that every single season.
Speaker 3: I don't know, it's just I don't know, it feels
Speaker 3: like it's getting cringing.
Speaker 2: Of course, I see exactly where you're coming from, and
Speaker 2: I don't disagree with you. I just think that because
Speaker 2: because every season, maybe this is my interpretation of it,
Speaker 2: every season, there's like three guys that kind of become
Speaker 2: the bigger names or whatever, and they're typically relatively normal,
Speaker 2: and then there's five guys that are like in the
Speaker 2: tier below that that want to strive to reach that.
Speaker 2: But now there is no like tier upper tier, and
Speaker 2: so those five guys that do that every season are
Speaker 2: now just kind of considered in a group with everyone else,
Speaker 2: and so you just maybe see it more often or
Speaker 2: there's like less of a comparison to the same guys
Speaker 2: from their season.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That's how I kind of see it. But I'm just
Speaker 2: totally making this up off the top of my head
Speaker 2: right now. So who the heck knows what I'm talking about.
Speaker 5: I mean, don't get me wrong, there's cringe you guys,
Speaker 5: from your guys to seasons and previous and beyond whatever,
Speaker 5: But I don't know, just feels like it's getting a.
Speaker 3: Little bit worse.
Speaker 4: Do you think the girls are getting worse in that way?
Speaker 3: Hmm?
Speaker 1: Well, this season put the spotlight on you guys.
Speaker 3: Are the girls getting worse? I think everyone is.
Speaker 5: Wanting to be an influencer, Like there's yeah, like everyone's trying.
Speaker 5: Everyone every season is trying.
Speaker 2: But it's easy for someone like you to say because
Speaker 2: you've achieved the status that everyone wants to achieve.
Speaker 3: Do you disagree watching these new seasons?
Speaker 4: No, No, No, I don't disagree with you at all.
Speaker 4: But I'm just saying, and.
Speaker 5: I'm saying like I was a part of it, probably,
Speaker 5: well yes, not probably you were. I don't think I
Speaker 5: was striving to be an influencer, but I think you're
Speaker 5: on the show and you like feed into the show's hype.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Well, also it's just the opportunity, like the opportunities right there,
Speaker 1: you know, and you see your fellow cast members getting
Speaker 1: it right now, and so you crave it as well.
Speaker 1: And it's only natural to feel that way. And plus
Speaker 1: it's just it's not even Bachelor or just reality TV
Speaker 1: in general. It's kind of just the way the world.
Speaker 1: I did a career day earlier today where I spoke
Speaker 1: to Third and Fifth creators and it was fun and
Speaker 1: we were just talking about Yeah, it was so cute,
Speaker 1: and we were talking about being a business owner and
Speaker 1: just what they want to do with their careers and
Speaker 1: stuff like that, and a handful of them, of course,
Speaker 1: they're like, I want to be a streamer, I want
Speaker 1: to be an influencer, you know. And it's like it's
Speaker 1: just a thing now, which makes sense because they view
Speaker 1: it as an easy way of getting rich and famous, which,
Speaker 1: as we know, a lot of influencers are not rich,
Speaker 1: you know. So it's like it's kind of you know,
Speaker 1: they put the allure out there that like we have money,
Speaker 1: and some do obviously, but I don't know. It's interesting.
Speaker 1: So it's just like a different landscape. The world's changing.
Speaker 1: It is.
Speaker 3: When I was young, I saw open heart surgery in
Speaker 3: high school.
Speaker 5: They like took us during anatomy to go visit open
Speaker 5: heart surgery and I was asking about the different positions
Speaker 5: and they're like that's what you want to be that
Speaker 5: an a caesiologist. They make so much money. So I
Speaker 5: was like, Okay, that's my career goal. I'm going to
Speaker 5: be an anesthesiologist. Then I realized I was aboud at science,
Speaker 5: but my goal was always money.
Speaker 2: Well, for the oh, I see your point. For the record,
Speaker 2: anethy ziologists still make a lot of money. Just ask
Speaker 2: Ashley's that.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 5: I know, I'm saying my goal was money, and he's
Speaker 5: saying their goal is like rich and famous.
Speaker 3: Money please money please?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see your point. I do think that it's
Speaker 2: maybe the entry. The barrier entry has gotten a little
Speaker 2: bit more easier to attain too, so you know, no
Speaker 2: one's gonna grow up. People do want to be a
Speaker 2: Brad Pitt, but they kind of know that it's not
Speaker 2: going to be achievable. And now that they see all
Speaker 2: you need is a webcam and an internet connection to
Speaker 2: be the next Ninja, maybe you could do it. Nina
Speaker 2: Ninja the streamer he streams.
Speaker 1: Yeah, who's the most famous TikToker?
Speaker 3: We think Alex Earl, No, she's not.
Speaker 4: Who is so overrated?
Speaker 3: I'm not saying she's not overrated, but I'm saying she
Speaker 3: is the most like this girl is everywhere. She is
Speaker 3: so famous.
Speaker 5: Addison Ray Addison kind of fell off because of her
Speaker 5: family drama.
Speaker 4: Okay, I guess not. I don't have the beat to.
Speaker 5: The drum Addison and Charlie, I guess Charlie Dmilio. Yeah,
Speaker 5: but they kind of like chilled out a bit. Alex
Speaker 5: is still like front facing, like full in the spotlight.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I agree. I guess I don't know enough
Speaker 2: about Charlie.
Speaker 3: Shirt. We can take those answers. Noah Beck, I did
Speaker 3: plotates with him, great.
Speaker 5: He was a nice guy, cool. I don't think I
Speaker 5: consider him a top tier influencer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know, but yeah, it is interesting how
Speaker 2: how times have changed, for sure, But I guess everything
Speaker 2: that you said.
Speaker 4: My point is that it hasn't.
Speaker 3: Really changed a weird way, so weird sentence and well.
Speaker 2: It well, if things haven't really changed that much, I
Speaker 2: don't think. I just think that the cream would always
Speaker 2: kind of rise to the top before, and now there's
Speaker 2: less cream.
Speaker 4: It's kind of my point.
Speaker 5: I was thinking that I met someone from like three
Speaker 5: seasons ago. This happened like a year or two ago,
Speaker 5: but he was just a little cringey and kept talking
Speaker 5: about Bachelor Nation and how we're both a part of
Speaker 5: Bachelor Nation. All of them do that, though, but when
Speaker 5: have we ever said we're a part of.
Speaker 2: Okay, sorry to sound conceded, but we're the ones that
Speaker 2: are lucky enough to have made it, and so obviously
Speaker 2: we're not going to necessarily like say that because we're
Speaker 2: not punching up as much as everyone else. I agree,
Speaker 2: I'm disgusting, but my point remains the same. Even after
Speaker 2: my season, there were guys from my season that didn't,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe get as many followers that were using
Speaker 2: me to bolster their social media, and it's just that's
Speaker 2: just kind of how it goes. I don't know, but like, like,
Speaker 2: like I'm saying, it's it's maybe harder for you to
Speaker 2: understand it because you're one of the people that did
Speaker 2: get there. I know, disgusting, yuck, but it's true, y
Speaker 2: and you were lucky. At the end of the day,
Speaker 2: we're extremely lucky, lucky. I don't know what it is,
Speaker 2: I don't know why it happened, but the fact of
Speaker 2: the matter is we're there. You know, of course it
Speaker 2: would be to be a little bit higher than we are,
Speaker 2: but the fact is like, there are.
Speaker 1: People who always be better.
Speaker 2: There are people I wish they could be in the
Speaker 2: that we're in, and that's what they strive for, is
Speaker 2: to be in the position that we're in. M hmm,
Speaker 2: that's my point. No one's gonna agree with that because
Speaker 2: I sound like a lunatic right now, and that's totally fine.
Speaker 2: I've had too much of this champagne anyways. That's gonna
Speaker 2: do it. For this week's episode of Suckers, gosh dang,
Speaker 2: and I put my foot in my mouth yet again.
Speaker 3: That's what's new.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Yeah, you live and you learn. Sometimes you just
Speaker 2: live and you don't learn anything. Be sure to tune
Speaker 2: in next week, where maybe we suck just a little
Speaker 2: bit less