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Speaker 1: My next guest. You can watch the cooking show on

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Speaker 1: the Aspired network. There there are their creators of Butter

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Speaker 1: and Brown. They showcase creative ways to prepare fantastic food

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Speaker 1: and tasty cocktails. That's if that's the word for drinks liquor.

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Speaker 1: You know, they drink and eat at the same time

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Speaker 1: with popular ingredients viewers are likely to have on hand.

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Speaker 1: Please walk for the money making conversation. First time, the

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Speaker 1: creators and hosts a budded Butter and Brown said, Brundo

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Speaker 1: and Leslie on too off, good morning. Let's got the

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Speaker 1: last name right? Did they get the last name right?

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Speaker 1: Because I don't want to get you mad. I've seen

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Speaker 1: You know you can ave you know, So, first of all,

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Speaker 1: how did you two get together? Lesson It says, let's

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Speaker 1: talk about the beginning? How did you guys come together

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Speaker 1: as a dynamic cooking duel? Sure, m Seth and I

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Speaker 1: both grew up in Los Angeles and we also went

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Speaker 1: So can your ads stuff that she missed out? Seth

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Speaker 1: please thank you sir man. So um we actually if

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Speaker 1: I don't know why, I don't know why she acted

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Speaker 1: why she acted like she can't talk, because you can't

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Speaker 1: She gave us anopsis of one minute that's our whole relationship.

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Speaker 1: He went right what we had on, well, he want

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Speaker 1: You know, if you can watch Butter and Brown once

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Speaker 1: always I mean you just hit the nail on the head.

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