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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Action Network Podcast, the number one show

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Welcome to the Action Network Podcast.

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Speaker 2: I'm at Moore, senior NBA writer, joining me. Well, why

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Speaker 2: wob Rob Perez? Rob? Are you excited about going to

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Speaker 2: Chicago February.

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Speaker 3: It's been a while for the two of us, hasn't it.

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Speaker 2: It's been a while. It's good to be back. I'm

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Speaker 1: Download it wherever you get your applications. As they're called

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you know this or not. They'll

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Speaker 2: be available. There'll be also sorts of awesome.

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Speaker 1: Stuff from us breakdowns that we're gonna do on this

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Speaker 1: podcast in even more detail. What is the one thing

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Speaker 1: that you were most excited about for All Star Weekend.

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Speaker 4: From a fans standpoint, I think the three point Contest

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Speaker 4: will be the best event again. I'm actually excited that

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Speaker 4: the Dunk Contest has legitimate dunkers this year year. I mean, Derek,

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Speaker 4: if you haven't seen Derek Jones Junior dunk in the game,

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Speaker 4: in the fact that he's got Aaron Gordon as his

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Speaker 4: competition this year is enough for me to get excited again.

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Speaker 4: And I feel like we do this every year with

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Speaker 4: the Dunk Contest. It's like, all right, this is the one.

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Speaker 4: I swear it's the one. But all it takes is

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Speaker 4: at Zach Lavine Versus Darren Gordon Dunk Contest and it's

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Speaker 4: the grace of all time and you're set for the

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Speaker 4: next ten years. I think there's potential there with Derek

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Speaker 4: Jones Junior, because he's going to take off one day

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Speaker 4: and just never come back down. I just going to

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Speaker 4: keep going through the roof like he's got that type

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Speaker 4: of bunnies. I'm definitely not excited about the new All

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Speaker 4: Star game format. It was even a stretch doing like

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Speaker 4: Team Captains here, we were starting starting to approach NHL territory,

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Speaker 4: and then we decided to the TVT tournament style of

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Speaker 4: what sport are we playing?

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Speaker 3: At this point, I don't know how the.

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Speaker 4: Game even finishes, and I'm obsessed with the NBA, so

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Speaker 4: that's a problem that I'm confused and I'm sure everyone

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Speaker 4: else will be to once the game is ending.

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Speaker 3: So not okay with that.

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Speaker 4: And to answer a question about the journalism portion of it,

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Speaker 4: I actually really enjoy Media Day for some reason. It's chaotic.

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Speaker 4: There are thousands of reporters there who are shoving each

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Speaker 4: other in like sticking cameras and people's faces, being very rude.

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Speaker 4: But I like the challenge of trying to accomplish a

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Speaker 4: it's always nice seeing people from other teams and other

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Speaker 3: In the world too.

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Speaker 4: So Media Day is hectic, it's loud, but it does

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Speaker 1: I think the thing I like about media availability is

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Speaker 1: it's the one day of the year where the media

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Speaker 1: a really good mood. It's the one year where it's swapped,

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Speaker 1: all the stress to try and get some sort of

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Speaker 2: I don't have to play. There's no practice. I'm not

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Speaker 2: playing the Bucks on the Tuesday. This is great.

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Speaker 1: I just gets to chill. This is awesome. Like everybody's

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Speaker 1: There's all these great parties, like everybody, all the players

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Speaker 4: One of the problems, by the way, is Media Day

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Speaker 4: It starts at nine in the morning. That is early

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Speaker 4: when you're out all night at these so called parties

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Speaker 4: whatever your consumption is can be a problem. And when

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and you.

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Speaker 4: Know what minor league gym means, minor league WiFi by

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Speaker 4: the way, So when you're everyone's cutting videos trying to

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Speaker 1: I'm always impressed that there aren't more security issues. I'm

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Speaker 1: not not to be that guy that like, there's so

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Speaker 2: It's always in the hotel, and it's like there's.

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Speaker 1: So many people and there's badges, which of course helps,

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Speaker 1: and the NBA always has like a noticeable but not

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Speaker 2: You could loot this thing like a video game, so chaotic.

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Speaker 4: And yeah, like people just dump bags in like ten

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Speaker 4: running around trying to get content. But it's just like

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Speaker 4: amongst all the journalists there, the people covered the media,

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Speaker 4: no one's going to take your stuff.

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Speaker 3: But you're right, like, what's just stopping.

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Speaker 4: Someone from just cleaning out a row of six figures

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Speaker 2: I don't know is the availability public again?

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Speaker 4: So they did a good job with that last year, actually,

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Speaker 4: I thought because in Charlotte they had the it was

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Speaker 3: Team in Charlotte, Yeah, and down on the rink.

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Speaker 4: Was where the media day was happening, and in the

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Speaker 4: stands it was far enough away that like these these

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Speaker 3: So if they do it, if they're like far.

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Speaker 4: Enough away that they cheer when they see Lebron and you, honest,

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Speaker 4: it's a pretty cool atmosphere for that, as long as

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Speaker 4: again security is up the par.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, so let's actually get into the events,

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Speaker 1: and let's let's talk a little bit about each one.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna start with the Saturday night events.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna skip Rising Stars because as much as I

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Speaker 1: think it'll be fun, like every year, I'm like, it'd

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Speaker 2: It's just not there's nothing entertaining.

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Speaker 1: Like I there are times when I remember Kyrie and

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Speaker 1: Brandon Knight got into it like they were going back

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Speaker 1: I usually like, yeah, I like play. I usually find

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Speaker 1: I usually find Rising Stars to be a bit of

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Speaker 1: a miss. But let's start with three point I think

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Speaker 1: that's the best.

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Speaker 2: I'm agree.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you, this is the best competition of the weekend.

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Speaker 1: To run down the participants, Davis Burton's, Davante Graham, Joe

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Speaker 1: Joe Harris, last year's winner, Buddy Heal, Zach Lavine, Damian Lillard,

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Speaker 1: Duncan Robinson, and Trey Young. We don't have odds on

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Speaker 1: know kind of like who the favorites are gonna be. Like,

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Speaker 1: the favorites are probably going to be close to the top.

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Speaker 1: Is gonna be Harris since he won last year, Tray

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Speaker 1: Young since he's going to get the most public Moneyard

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Speaker 1: and Lillard lower' is probably going to get a lot

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Speaker 2: Who do you like?

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Speaker 1: Let's let's say that you want to take like a

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Speaker 4: Okay, So even before I get to my answer, we

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Speaker 4: need to remind the audience listening to this that again

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Speaker 4: they change the format so and that probably didn't need

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Speaker 4: a four point rack, but they're adding extra balls from

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Speaker 4: are money balls still, but there's an extra rack with

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Speaker 4: some more time. So if you are one of these

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Speaker 4: deep three point shooters that is really good at shooting

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Speaker 4: thirty plus three pointers, I'm looking at you, Trey Young

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Speaker 4: and Damian Lillard, this is going to favor them significantly

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Speaker 4: because those are like layups for those guys, and Damian

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Speaker 4: Lillard is shooting like sixty percent from threes over thirty

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Speaker 3: But but big, but my.

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Speaker 4: Biggest position, as I've been stating all season, is not

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Speaker 4: the thirty plus racks because the most underrated thirty plus

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Speaker 4: three point shooter in the NBA is Finally he should

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Speaker 4: have been in the three point contest last.

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Speaker 3: Year he wasn't, and God bless Joe Harris.

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Speaker 4: But Joe Harris is lucky he wasn't because he was

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Speaker 4: even better at these last year.

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Speaker 3: And it's doubt as Burton's.

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Speaker 4: Berton's is a walking bucket and the ball doesn't even

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Speaker 4: hit the net when it goes through.

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Speaker 3: I don't even need to take a position on any

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Speaker 4: I'll take Devonte Graham just because he's like an action

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Speaker 4: network right into the program, and I don't know I

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Speaker 3: He gets some dribble first, which is going to be

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Speaker 3: a problem.

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Speaker 4: But Doavis Berton's should without a doubt be the overwhelming

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Speaker 4: be big and long on Davias Burton's there's no other

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Speaker 4: way like anyone that's unless you've watched Wizards games this year.

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Speaker 4: He is so good that the Wizards were holding him

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Speaker 4: at the trade deadline for two first round picks. Marcus

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Speaker 4: Morris got a late first in an early second, and

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Speaker 4: they said Davias Berton's only two mid first round picks. Oh,

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Speaker 4: by the way, he's a free agent at the end

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Speaker 4: of the season. That's how good he is. This dude

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Speaker 4: does not miss Matt Please back me up on this.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm with you, I'm with you. I'm not taking

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Speaker 1: him this year for a number of reasons. One, he's

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Speaker 1: had some injury issues too. He's playing a lot more

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Speaker 1: on ball this year. Because Scott Brooks has somehow become

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Speaker 1: The reason is Davante still is top ten in May

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Speaker 1: Now, obviously we know Dame can do that, and there's

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Speaker 3: So I'll take the pressure usually doesn't help, right.

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Speaker 1: I'll take Duncan Robinson, I'll take Davante Graham. And my

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Speaker 1: He never shoots him because he's always on ball. We

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Speaker 1: I actually like Shaye a lot in this competition. I

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Speaker 1: They loved they included the bigs because they thought it'd

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Speaker 1: I don't love Sabonis in this spot for a number

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Speaker 3: Just didn't didn't big guys win this the past couple

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Speaker 3: My guy's Chris Middleton. Here.

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Speaker 1: The last seuple of years, Tatum Dinwoody won in eighteen,

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Speaker 2: He's in the three point contest.

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Speaker 1: So like there's three winners guys that have won this competition.

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Speaker 4: Aaron Gordon was rocked against Zach Levine. He wasn't robbed

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Speaker 4: So narratives come into play here like they do with

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Speaker 4: he's probably gonna win because these judges remember what happened

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Speaker 4: a couple of years ago. I mean, Derek Jones Junior

439
00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:25,720
Speaker 4: has done this in the past, but now that he's

440
00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,840
Speaker 4: back on the national stage, and he's an even better

441
00:19:27,960 --> 00:19:29,919
Speaker 4: dunker than he was the first time around.

442
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:33,119
Speaker 3: It's really hard to put into words.

443
00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:38,040
Speaker 4: Just how high and violent and if he has any

444
00:19:38,040 --> 00:19:41,520
Speaker 4: sort of originality with his dunks. I think he's good

445
00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:44,320
Speaker 4: enough that people will just look at you like you

446
00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:48,480
Speaker 4: won't hear ooz and as you'll hear silence, dead silence

447
00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,280
Speaker 4: on a Derek Jones junior dunk when he jumps on

448
00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,080
Speaker 4: top of the backboard, does a three sixty coming off

449
00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,240
Speaker 4: of it and lands on his feet like he's Simone

450
00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 4: Biles at the US Olympics.

451
00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:00,560
Speaker 3: That's he has that type of ability.

452
00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:03,440
Speaker 4: And I'm almost afraid that Aaron Gordon emptied the clip

453
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:07,280
Speaker 4: in the slam dunk context against zac Lavie, Like how

454
00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,480
Speaker 4: many dunks does he have left?

455
00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:11,359
Speaker 3: He dunked for us for like an hour straight. Are

456
00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,879
Speaker 3: there any dunks left? It's like jokes on Twitter. All

457
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,360
Speaker 3: the jokes have been said. It's just how you remix

458
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:19,480
Speaker 3: them without looking like plagiarism at this point because someone

459
00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,040
Speaker 3: has said it before you. So I worry about Aaron

460
00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,560
Speaker 3: Gordon's just creativity because I never have to worry about

461
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,479
Speaker 3: it with Derek Jones.

462
00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:30,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I don't know what Conton could do that

463
00:20:30,359 --> 00:20:33,080
Speaker 1: would actually be able, Like Content's a great dunker.

464
00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,280
Speaker 2: That's why he's in the competition. He's a legit great dunker.

465
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,359
Speaker 1: I don't know what he can do that's legit going

466
00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,680
Speaker 1: to get the judge's attention, Like.

467
00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 2: You can't, like you can do like an homage to Muggsy.

468
00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,840
Speaker 1: I will say this, like, Okay, we're in Chicago, right,

469
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:49,439
Speaker 1: what are the odds that somebody tries was that somebody

470
00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:50,040
Speaker 1: tries to Jordan?

471
00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,199
Speaker 2: Like what are the odds?

472
00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:53,840
Speaker 3: Pretty high? Right? You better nail it?

473
00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you better.

474
00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:55,399
Speaker 3: You have to.

475
00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:58,639
Speaker 1: The other thing is we're gonna see a Calby homage,

476
00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:01,080
Speaker 1: Like that's gonna happen too, and so that's gonna be

477
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:03,720
Speaker 1: the question is like who goes for that attempt to

478
00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,959
Speaker 1: like who who goes for the Kobe the Kobe homage

479
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:11,080
Speaker 1: in theirs? Because that's my god, imagine, I know, I know.

480
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:13,640
Speaker 1: That's the thing you have to have to factor in here,

481
00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:16,720
Speaker 1: is like I want to know, like I actually hope

482
00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:19,760
Speaker 1: they won't, but I want someone a book to provide

483
00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 1: us with who's going to get the lowest score because

484
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 1: I want to take Dwight because I'm just like, yeah,

485
00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:25,960
Speaker 1: he's gonna try.

486
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Speaker 3: He was the one that was gonna bring Kobe into

487
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:28,640
Speaker 3: his act. Yeah.

488
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Speaker 4: So, and he's on the Lakers now currently he probably

489
00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,399
Speaker 4: has the most pressure.

490
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, to do something for the image of Kobe.

491
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like that's I if you met, like, it

492
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Speaker 1: would be very Dwight to miss it. It would be

493
00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,479
Speaker 1: very Dwight to go for all that and then miss it,

494
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,399
Speaker 1: even though like I'm not Auntie Dwight. I'm just saying like,

495
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:46,840
Speaker 1: at the course of his career, like that would be

496
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Speaker 1: like another thing of look, remember the one he did

497
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Speaker 1: this thing. So I don't love Dwight's chances here at

498
00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 1: this point. I also am very curious about Dwight at

499
00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:58,360
Speaker 1: his age, with a history of back problems doing this competition.

500
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Speaker 2: I'm just like, oh boy, seriously, buddy, but.

501
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,360
Speaker 3: Barely get off the ground, man.

502
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Speaker 4: I mean, he's still playing well, but jeez, he has

503
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,359
Speaker 4: a shadow of his old self athletically.

504
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Speaker 1: I agree with you that Aaron Gordon's gonna be up

505
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Speaker 1: against the ghost of himself and that's.

506
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Speaker 2: Gonna be a problem. Here's the one thing with Derek

507
00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:12,520
Speaker 2: Jones Junior.

508
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Speaker 1: Derek Jones Junior is the guy Dunker that I love,

509
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:18,120
Speaker 1: which is you mentioned it, he's violent. I love violent dunkers.

510
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,399
Speaker 1: Those are the guys I like best, the guys that

511
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,879
Speaker 1: just want to rip the rim off. However, translating to

512
00:22:23,960 --> 00:22:26,239
Speaker 1: the dunk contest is usually pretty difficult because even if

513
00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:31,120
Speaker 1: you exhibit a high velocity, that just never really captures

514
00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: the judge's imagination because of how staged this event is.

515
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:38,119
Speaker 1: They want to see something that's super quote unquote cool.

516
00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:41,080
Speaker 1: It can't just be like a hyper violent dunk with

517
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 1: like you can't pull off like a super violent East

518
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:45,160
Speaker 1: Bay funk dunk and then and get it.

519
00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:45,960
Speaker 2: It's not gonna work.

520
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Speaker 1: That's why Aaron Gordon was a perfect combination because he

521
00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:52,640
Speaker 1: had such elevation. Now that's the counters like he and

522
00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,359
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon have the highest elevation, so I think that

523
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Speaker 1: they have the best chances of being able to stay

524
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Speaker 1: in the air to complete the dunk.

525
00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:00,480
Speaker 2: So that's if you're.

526
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,800
Speaker 1: Gonna take it, like, I'm probably just gonna go Derek

527
00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: Jones Junior heavy and then hedge On Gordon.

528
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Speaker 2: Those are the two that I think we agree though,

529
00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:08,000
Speaker 2: that we like the best.

530
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:12,200
Speaker 4: Staying in the air allows you to do things in

531
00:23:12,240 --> 00:23:15,480
Speaker 4: the air acts as in like spins in three sixties

532
00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:20,199
Speaker 4: and wind mills. So you have to have verticality to

533
00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 4: win this thing, because that's the only way you can

534
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:27,399
Speaker 4: be original. Now, Derek Jones Junior has such athleticism and

535
00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 4: such violence to his dunks that I could legitally see

536
00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,760
Speaker 4: him taking. He may go for behind the free throw line.

537
00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,960
Speaker 4: I'm not even kidding you talked about someone doing a Jordan.

538
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 4: I think he could go from behind the free throw line.

539
00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:40,000
Speaker 3: He's almost done it during actual real games.

540
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 4: I wouldn't put it past him in terms of athleticism

541
00:23:43,000 --> 00:23:45,719
Speaker 4: to make it, because he's long enough, he's got the hops,

542
00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:48,360
Speaker 4: he's got every like his wingspan. I think he can

543
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,359
Speaker 4: take off from a legitimate foot and a half behind

544
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 4: the line. And I don't know if it'll get the

545
00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,040
Speaker 4: appreciation that it deserves, But that's the dunk that like

546
00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 4: he could save to win it in Chicago doing the Jordan. Oh,

547
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,440
Speaker 4: by the way, I did it a foot behind him.

548
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 4: That's how you pay homage to Michael Jordan. The one

549
00:24:02,920 --> 00:24:05,440
Speaker 4: most underrated part about this, by the way, is we're

550
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,000
Speaker 4: kind of writing off Pat Conton, and I hope it's

551
00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 4: not for obvious reasons. I love Billy Boyle to death.

552
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:12,720
Speaker 4: But Sidney Dean would have a very particular line to

553
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,879
Speaker 4: say here. Pat Conenton almost set the record for standing

554
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:17,280
Speaker 4: vertical leap at the combine.

555
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:17,920
Speaker 2: He can leap.

556
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 4: Yes, So there's gonna be a lot of funny jokes

557
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 4: on Twitter. Okay, I may even participate in a couple

558
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:25,399
Speaker 4: of them, but do not let that distract you from

559
00:24:25,440 --> 00:24:28,920
Speaker 4: the fact that Pat can dunk and Pat most importantly

560
00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:31,760
Speaker 4: can jump, and because you can jump, for the reasons

561
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 4: that we just discussed, he will be in contention.

562
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:36,199
Speaker 3: I don't think he'll win, but he will put up

563
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 3: a good show.

564
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:38,959
Speaker 1: So that's maybe like the reason to if you if

565
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:40,520
Speaker 1: you're looking at it like that might be a reason

566
00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: to take him is just to be like, look, Conton's light.

567
00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:45,440
Speaker 2: He's not going to try and do too much. He's

568
00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,520
Speaker 2: going to complete his dunks.

569
00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,680
Speaker 1: He's got the elevation to complete him, and he's gonna

570
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,000
Speaker 1: pull off his dunks like he's going to know what

571
00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: he's doing going in and he's gonna be.

572
00:24:51,680 --> 00:24:52,320
Speaker 2: Able to pull him off.

573
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: Versus either Aaron Gordon or Derrek Jones Junior may try

574
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: too much, like they may try and go so over

575
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: the top that it just doesn't work versus content. I

576
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:02,439
Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna go for any sort of like

577
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 1: Dwight's gonna use props.

578
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 2: That's his way in.

579
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 4: It's the Hamadu Diallo strategy of just get a dunk

580
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,920
Speaker 4: in being a leader in the clubhouse and let everyone

581
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:10,720
Speaker 4: else make bogies.

582
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, So, like that might be the reason to

583
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 1: consider content if you want to take it, Like you

584
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:17,760
Speaker 1: could take one of either Derek Jones Junior or Aaron

585
00:25:17,800 --> 00:25:20,639
Speaker 1: Gordon and then content. If Dwight wins this thing, it's

586
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,600
Speaker 1: a massive upset and credit to him. I just can't

587
00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:25,679
Speaker 1: I can't talk myself into it through any paradigm. Like

588
00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,720
Speaker 1: even if he pulls off the most the greatest Kobe homage,

589
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: I just don't know if the judges are gonna reward

590
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:33,439
Speaker 1: him in a way that's gonna get over. Like if

591
00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: Aaron Gordon just does anything, anything that he's capable of,

592
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,880
Speaker 1: it's hard to see him beating him out.

593
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,879
Speaker 2: Let's go Sunday, all right, So team Lebron, I'm not

594
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 2: doing celebrity game.

595
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:46,760
Speaker 1: By the way that I have limits there, I have

596
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,040
Speaker 1: a limit to to my dignity.

597
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,040
Speaker 2: They're low. The limits are very low.

598
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:54,480
Speaker 1: But I'm not doing the celebrity game team Lebron, Lebron,

599
00:25:54,600 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: Ady Kawhi, Luca Harden, Dame, Ben Simmons, Joker, Tata, Chris Paul,

600
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:07,640
Speaker 1: Russell Westbrook and Somebonas team Jannis Is, Jannis Embiide, Siakam Kemba,

601
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:13,960
Speaker 1: Trey Chris bam Ordi Gobert, Jimmy Butler, Kyle Lowry, Brandon Ingram,

602
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:16,760
Speaker 1: and Donovan Mitchell. I actually like the way that Yanas's

603
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,800
Speaker 1: team is constructed a little bit more. I think it

604
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,879
Speaker 1: makes a little bit more sense. Lebron's team is obviously better.

605
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: So all right, labor, Yeah, so let's try and get

606
00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:31,000
Speaker 1: a sense for this. First off, do we feel like,

607
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,320
Speaker 1: like if there's a team that's a head after three

608
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: and they got to get to the twenty four, Right,

609
00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:39,399
Speaker 1: Let's say that Janice's team is up by like seven

610
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,200
Speaker 1: after three quarters, because I think they have a little

611
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:43,199
Speaker 1: bit better depth.

612
00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:43,720
Speaker 3: Right.

613
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 1: Is there a team that if they're down you like

614
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:48,440
Speaker 1: them to be able to get above into the twenty four?

615
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:51,919
Speaker 4: Absolutely not, because this is an exhibition game where they

616
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 4: don't even try for the first three quarters. So trying

617
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 4: to predict who's going to be in front is just crazy,

618
00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,919
Speaker 4: at least in my mind. So I've always found success

619
00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:04,560
Speaker 4: in just like blind betting underdogs because like you didn't

620
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 4: think they carried in the nineties or the two thousands,

621
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:10,119
Speaker 4: my god, like where we progressed to at this point.

622
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:13,200
Speaker 4: They were trying alley oops bouncing off the floor last year,

623
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:15,359
Speaker 4: and like they were just setting up the Dwayne Wade

624
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:18,680
Speaker 4: Lebron photo shoot for the alley oop, so they could

625
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:20,800
Speaker 4: do that before. Like those are the things that happened

626
00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:23,080
Speaker 4: in All Star games. But ultimately, the game does have

627
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 4: to finish at some point and there needs to be

628
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 4: a winner. I still don't even know, like technically what

629
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,240
Speaker 4: these rules are. Like at some point they're going to

630
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,120
Speaker 4: they're going to stop turn off a clock, and they're

631
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:35,719
Speaker 4: gonna both play to a certain score, and that's how

632
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 4: we're going to determine a winner. And if we're doing

633
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,439
Speaker 4: this based on like who's gonna win based on just

634
00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 4: the rosters, I guess you could say the guys on

635
00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 4: Giannis's team may want this more because everyone's an All Star. Honestly,

636
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:49,400
Speaker 4: there's no like good or bad players on like even

637
00:27:49,440 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 4: so Bonus is a really good player and he was

638
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:55,520
Speaker 4: picked dead last So my point here is Giannis's team

639
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 4: just feels like when I look at the names on

640
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 4: that list, that they may rally around him. Let's just

641
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 4: win to prove that we can win versus Lebron's guys

642
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,520
Speaker 4: are like, we've been here so many times. Do we

643
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: even care about winning this game? And we've seen, to

644
00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 4: the NBA's credit, that the players do try. At the

645
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:12,240
Speaker 4: end of the fourth quarter, it does turn into an

646
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 4: actual game. I'm gonna roll with Giannis because I know

647
00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 4: I'm getting everyone's gonna betting Team Lebron. I'm gonna get

648
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,000
Speaker 4: some extra juice and some extra points on everything, just

649
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 4: because the entire internet thinks Team Giannis is a terrible

650
00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,600
Speaker 4: draft picker. That right, there is enough reason to bet

651
00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 4: Team Yiannis. We're talking about an exhibition game that isn't

652
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:31,800
Speaker 4: even basketball. It's a new sport.

653
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,560
Speaker 3: How are you not just blind betting all everything with

654
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 3: a plus sign in front of it? It's an exhibition.

655
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Speaker 1: The love of God, my ideal situation, I'll tell you

656
00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: I'm probably gonna do. I'm probably gonna live bet Team

657
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: Jannis in the fourth no matter what. If they're down,

658
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: they have Trey Young, Kemball Walker, Chris Middleton, I have

659
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: a lot of and Yannis, so I have a lot

660
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: of faith in them being able to come back from

661
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 1: whatever the deficit is and reach the twenty four quickly.

662
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:00,200
Speaker 1: And this is a much better defensive squad. So if

663
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,800
Speaker 1: we're gonna reach the part of the game where they're

664
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 1: actually trying to play defense, it's gonna be that fourth quarter.

665
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna like those starters a lot more. I'm

666
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:11,560
Speaker 1: gonna like Giannis embiid Siakam Kemba and Trey a lot

667
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: more than I'm gonna like Lebron, Ady Kawhi.

668
00:29:14,680 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: Luca Harden. Like Hard's not gonna play defense. He never

669
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: plays defense.

670
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:19,320
Speaker 1: He certainly not gonna play it here when he's hung

671
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: over from Saturday night. Like Kawhi is not gonna try.

672
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 1: Kawi is a try in the regular season, So like

673
00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: he's gonna be confused as to why he's.

674
00:29:26,160 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 2: Even playing a d not gonna try.

675
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: Can't take a body in the All Star Game, he

676
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 1: can't take a body in the regular season. Lebron, here's

677
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: the thing. Lebron might just be like, we're not losing this.

678
00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: In the Kobe Memorial Game.

679
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,520
Speaker 4: He does do that a lot. He just decides like

680
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 4: we're winning, and then he turns up the gas in

681
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter like he has in years past, and

682
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,680
Speaker 4: he rallies the team around him. But then all of

683
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 4: a sudden, the game is tied.

684
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 1: But the one player on both of these rosters that

685
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: at least had like a really personal relationship with Kobe

686
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: was Trey.

687
00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: Not to use this as like a betting angle.

688
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like we talked about Trey, right, like

689
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,200
Speaker 1: Trey I thinks try and win the weekend. That's why

690
00:30:01,200 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: I actually kind of like I'm gonna be looking at

691
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: Tray for MVP because he's gonna get enough assists, right,

692
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 1: Like he's gonna throw sick, insane bounce passes and lobs

693
00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: throughout the course of it. He's probably gonna rack up

694
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,120
Speaker 1: double digit assists, and he's gonna be like with nobody

695
00:30:14,120 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: guarding him, he's gonna shoot enough to be able to

696
00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:18,760
Speaker 1: get those minutes. Like he's gonna play because he's a starter,

697
00:30:19,120 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 1: and then he's gonna throw a lob of Siakam and Giannis,

698
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 1: And I feel like there's a really good chance that

699
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:25,960
Speaker 1: Trey tries to win the weekend.

700
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 2: So like I really like Trey's chances for MVP here.

701
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 4: Well, that, my friend, is called a segue in the business,

702
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 4: because Trey Young is one of my two MVP picks

703
00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:40,680
Speaker 4: for the reasons you just stated. I think he's gonna

704
00:30:40,680 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 4: try and win the weekend and most importantly, he's gonna

705
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,200
Speaker 4: have the ball in his hands. He's a point guard

706
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 4: in when you're picking MVPs for an exhibition game, you

707
00:30:47,600 --> 00:30:50,560
Speaker 4: need usage because everyone's gonna be putting up for diose stats.

708
00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 4: So Trey Young will have because he's also a starter

709
00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:55,280
Speaker 4: and you'll be out there at the end, he probably

710
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,080
Speaker 4: will have the ball in his hands honestly, most out

711
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 4: of any player that's in the game. And when he

712
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 4: starts showing off those forty five footers, if he gets

713
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 4: a couple to go that there may be enough just

714
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 4: for the voters to give him MVP if he just

715
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 4: like goes into inferno mode like he has the ability

716
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 4: to do that, and you need if you're going to

717
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 4: pick an MVP, it's got to be someone that can

718
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,640
Speaker 4: ooh in ah the crowd because that's how votes are delivered.

719
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 4: And because of that every single year, and I've been

720
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 4: rewarded once in the past. I just blind bet Russell

721
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 4: Westbrook because for some reason, he treats this like Game

722
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 4: seven of the finals, and he does not stop dribbling,

723
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:32,640
Speaker 4: demanding the ball, going to the rim, trying to rip

724
00:31:32,680 --> 00:31:35,160
Speaker 4: the rim off and wear it like a hat. Everyone's

725
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 4: looking at him like, dude, just slow down for like

726
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:39,040
Speaker 4: we don't care that much.

727
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:39,960
Speaker 3: He doesn't care.

728
00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,960
Speaker 4: He just goes and goes and goes and goes, and

729
00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 4: whatever you think about Russell Westbrook as a regular season

730
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 4: player or just a player in general, I swear to you,

731
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,640
Speaker 4: if you bet on him to win MVP, you will

732
00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: feel like you are winning the entire time. He should

733
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 4: have won it last year too, It was real close,

734
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 4: and he just doesn't because he doesn't stop. Man, he

735
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 4: doesn't stop, and he's going to put up a massive

736
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 4: double because he he only sees htt.

737
00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 3: He doesn't see an opponent. He sees Prey. That's why

738
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: Russell Westbrook always gets my money in these things.

739
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's not bad, but I only he's

740
00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 1: gonna play enough, right, and so I think for me,

741
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,120
Speaker 1: it's like I'm gonna go ahead and take Trey and

742
00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,960
Speaker 1: then on Team Lebron, I'll probably wind up taking a

743
00:32:22,120 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: d because of the simple like I'm better kind of

744
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,640
Speaker 1: category of like there's there's times when the game when

745
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 1: the guys that are trying don't find a rhythm, and

746
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:34,520
Speaker 1: the other guys that are better kind of don't try,

747
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,200
Speaker 1: don't try as much. And like Lebron's gonna pay himself

748
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:38,600
Speaker 1: to a certain degree, We'll see what he does. He

749
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 1: may go all out, Like Lebron's not a bad one

750
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 1: here right for the legacy pick. But I think Ad

751
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: there's a chance that he just like all of a

752
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: sudden you look up and it's like, oh, he's got

753
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,200
Speaker 1: thirty five points and he had like two highlight plays

754
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,640
Speaker 1: and then like that's enough to win MVP. So like,

755
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: I don't think Ad is a bad pick here either,

756
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: So I'll probably go that direction. I can't see Kawhi

757
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: putting it in. I can't see Luke with the way

758
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 1: that he plays. Look at well, Lucas maybe on my board,

759
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 1: but right now, I think I'm definitely taking Tray off

760
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: of team Meanness, and I'm gonna either take a D

761
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: or Luca on the other end of it.

762
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,160
Speaker 2: Tough one.

763
00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 4: I don't know if I can go down that road

764
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,560
Speaker 4: with like eight a d's it's just not gonna play.

765
00:33:17,040 --> 00:33:20,360
Speaker 1: Maybe that's see that's a good question. Is like he

766
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: may not want, but you know he's gonna he'll want

767
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:23,160
Speaker 1: to play.

768
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 3: In the sad Man.

769
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he hasn't.

770
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,680
Speaker 1: He hasn't realized it. Like it's the thing is, like

771
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 1: he doesn't he doesn't protect himself. I'll give him credit

772
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,080
Speaker 1: on that, Like he tries. He's just like he gets hurt.

773
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,640
Speaker 1: But he tries and then gets hurt and he has

774
00:33:34,680 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: to leave and he wants to come back.

775
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 2: And he plays, Like isn't vocal coaching.

776
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but Vocal is also not gonna protect him because

777
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: because ad is gonna be like, no, I want to play.

778
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: It's it's like I don't like again, I only using

779
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: this in an embedding context, but it has to be

780
00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: part of like we're gonna discuss what's gonna happen, but

781
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: this is the Kobe game.

782
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 2: Like this is the Kobe.

783
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 3: Game, right, and like, yeah, you're right.

784
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 1: That changes a lot of the dynamics here because of

785
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: like it's good, like there's gonna be tributes and the

786
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,880
Speaker 1: whole like it's gonna be the whole thing.

787
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 3: Is about Kobe.

788
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,719
Speaker 2: And that's just like the reality of it and that's

789
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:07,240
Speaker 2: gonna shape.

790
00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:10,720
Speaker 1: I think a lot of what players are players mindsets,

791
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:12,919
Speaker 1: and and like this is one that people are gonna

792
00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: remember because it's the Kobe game. And if people are

793
00:34:15,840 --> 00:34:18,600
Speaker 1: gonna remember it, they'll try more. Versus like Charlotte, where

794
00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:21,280
Speaker 1: it's like it was that All Star game in Charlotte,

795
00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: do you remember? No, Like, hey, I love Charlotte, fine city,

796
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,400
Speaker 1: enjoy spending time there, but like, like this one is

797
00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,600
Speaker 1: gonna feel different. There are All Star games that feel different.

798
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,920
Speaker 1: New York felt different, Dallas fel a whole different. It

799
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: was that was a big year. Honestly, Dallas was felt

800
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 1: really big.

801
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: There's all that.

802
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:39,320
Speaker 1: There are certain All Star games that feel really big,

803
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: like next year in Indiana probably will not Cleveland and

804
00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:44,759
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two will not. The next time it's in

805
00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: Los Angeles it will feel pretty big. Like two years

806
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,439
Speaker 1: ago in LA. Two years ago Goo in LA didn't

807
00:34:49,440 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 1: feel that bad because the Lakers were so bad, so

808
00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,919
Speaker 1: there was like you need the Lakers to be good

809
00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: for the LA one to work. That's kind of the

810
00:34:56,640 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: differential there. Do you have any parting Do you have

811
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 1: any parting thoughts on All Star weekends?

812
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:06,120
Speaker 4: The Kobe is just Kobe being such a consistent message

813
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: and tribute throughout the weekend. I hope it doesn't open

814
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 4: up old wounds for people or you know myself, just

815
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 4: some people probably got some closure just because of time.

816
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 4: And you know, the waterworks are going to be flowing

817
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,719
Speaker 4: there because the tributes are going to be extensive, but

818
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:22,960
Speaker 4: it should be because of that, it should be hopefully

819
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 4: a good weekend of basketball. And ultimately, that's why we're

820
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 4: watching is to see these guys perform at their best abilities.

821
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,120
Speaker 4: So maybe we'll get some motivated players out there, and

822
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 4: ultimately that'll make for better entertainments time.

823
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,319
Speaker 2: There's always a few surprises.

824
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: There's always a few moments where it's like a guy,

825
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,440
Speaker 1: a guy takes the opportunity to step on the bigger stage,

826
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: whether it's Rising Stars, even though it's Rising Stars or

827
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,160
Speaker 1: Saturday or Saturday Night, some guys really are like they

828
00:35:48,160 --> 00:35:50,479
Speaker 1: take they take pride and they don't get like there's

829
00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: such a sense sometimes of the NBA of like it's

830
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: cool to not care that I really appreciate it when

831
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: guys are like, no, man, like I don't get this

832
00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: every night, Like I'm not a player that people are

833
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 1: tuning in for like I don't get talked about it

834
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: on inside the NBA, like this is an opportunity for me.

835
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:06,800
Speaker 2: I want to get on the stage.

836
00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: I like it when guys on All Star Weekend want

837
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: to get on the stage of national television, not like

838
00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:14,680
Speaker 1: in various establishments that will make lots of money in

839
00:36:14,760 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: Chicago this weekend. Don't do that because you'll get exported

840
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 1: out by security. Yeah, I'm definitely gonna be also prop

841
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: betting the hardened unders. Just as the head now look

842
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: hard to pro at this, he knows how to manage

843
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,319
Speaker 1: it because I've seen the man be the only one

844
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,560
Speaker 1: at voluntary shoot arounds for the Rockets the morning after.

845
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:37,440
Speaker 1: I'm very confident based off of social media rumblings that

846
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,400
Speaker 1: he was enjoying himself the night before. The dude's a

847
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 1: pro guy knows how to go to work when things

848
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:43,640
Speaker 1: are not going his way.

849
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,640
Speaker 2: In terms of the dog.

850
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 4: Strip club rankings in Chicago compare to other cities, isn't

851
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:50,359
Speaker 4: it top.

852
00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: They may not be like the best, but they're probably

853
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 1: like if you go, you go hard, like I would

854
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 1: imagine in the Chicago ones are not like Austin strip clubs.

855
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 2: That's not the same thing.

856
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:02,080
Speaker 3: How do you know that.

857
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:06,880
Speaker 2: Well, it's actually not from personal experience. I'm going I

858
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: promise you. I had to work in the industry a

859
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:10,440
Speaker 2: long time ago.

860
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,919
Speaker 3: Oh Jesus, let's get it. Let's keep the podcast going

861
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 3: until these stories.

862
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 2: No, no, did not work, didn't. I have never worked

863
00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,520
Speaker 2: for an establishment. Proud of that.

864
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 3: Like did not.

865
00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 2: But I used to work in the service industry.

866
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: I ran poker games and bars and restaurants, so like

867
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: in Austin, Texas, like I learned more about the industry

868
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 1: of all bars and restaurants and clubs than I really

869
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: ever wanted to.

870
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 3: I have sounds like strip poker.

871
00:37:32,920 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 2: I have a lot of guys.

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Speaker 1: Not a thing I objected this, but anyway, I will

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Speaker 1: just say that I feel like Harden. I'm gonna probably

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Speaker 1: I feel like Harden, as good as a pro as

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Speaker 1: he is, might be really hurting from whatever it is

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Speaker 1: that he chooses to do on Saturday. Who knows, he

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Speaker 1: could stay home with a nice book. Maybe he's reading

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Speaker 1: Pride and Prejudice.

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Speaker 3: The Only time will tell, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Only time will tell.

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Speaker 3: We're finished talking