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Speaker 1: my friend, Mark? I couldn't be done any better? Thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. I'm still on winning National two championship.

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Speaker 1: thanks as always for being on the program. Next up,

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Speaker 1: Johnny and I continued to go around the National Football

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Speaker 1: show tweet tonight was me with Carol Alt on a

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Speaker 1: throwback Thursday Super Bowl. Carol Alt back at Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: fifty one where we were broadcasting the week of at

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Speaker 1: Convention Center, and Johnny, I know, I know you weren't

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Speaker 1: part of that interview, but I really do appreciate you

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Speaker 1: volunteering too to not be part of that interview so

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Speaker 1: I could just be alone with Carol Alt for a

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Speaker 1: few moments. Yeah, I saw that picture today, so you know,

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Speaker 1: it's been an interesting couple of days from that perspective.

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Speaker 1: And I'm looking at that and I'm like, wait a second,

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Speaker 1: that's a that's at our super Bowl location. We did

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Speaker 1: a lot of interviews, and I'm like, I was not

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Speaker 1: a part of that one. And then I was like, oh, well,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm chopped out of pictures. No, I'm not chopped

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Speaker 1: out a picture. I was just frozen out of that

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Speaker 1: particular interview. So remember when I said there was an

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Speaker 1: emergency dah, yeah, you sent me, You sent me, you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know where. But I was not. I was

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Speaker 1: not in on the Carol Alt interview. I know that. Well. Look,

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Speaker 1: I've interviewed two supermodels in my life, Carol Alt and

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Speaker 1: Cindy Crawford. And Carol Alt was great, but look Carol Cindy,

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Speaker 1: I mean, come on, it's Cindy Crawford and she's my

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Speaker 1: favorite all time supermodel. Liftre's such a thing. So I'll

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Speaker 1: go with that one. I inter wonderful. I interviewed Kate Upton.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about swimsuit models, and it was the worst

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Speaker 1: interview I've ever done. What I'm sure Kate was fine.

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Speaker 1: It was just it was not It was just it was, yeah, no,

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Speaker 1: is this pre verlander? Yeah, yes, this is pre verlander. Okay, yes, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean she was the one that was

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Speaker 1: m She was probably great, and I just was not

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Speaker 1: on my game that day. And I was like, let's

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Speaker 1: just get you nervous. No. I was not nervous, not

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Speaker 1: at all. Um Okay, I mean as an interviewing eric

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Speaker 1: You were nervous. Oh that's a good one. I've got

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Speaker 1: after he had taken the Penn State job, I had

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Speaker 1: a chance to interview Blow and that was just my gosh.

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Speaker 1: It was just I had talked to him in in

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Speaker 1: probably about um boy, I don't know. It had been

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Speaker 1: it straight out and I'm like, I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: b it's Johnny and he's like, oh, So we chit

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Speaker 1: chat and everything's great. We start the interview and he

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Speaker 1: goes into O'Brien interview mode and like I'm getting nothing

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Speaker 1: but like great teammates and like I'm getting you know,

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Speaker 1: all the you know, and I'm just like I'm like,

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Speaker 1: oh B, what are you? Like? What are you doing?

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Speaker 1: Like it's me man, come on, And yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: like whoa. Um, but going in an interview that I

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Speaker 1: was nervous about, UM, well, I don't know, trying to

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Speaker 1: of wound up for. I don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that there was. Oh B was one?

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Speaker 1: What about you? H Doctor Jay? Doctor Jay? It was?

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Speaker 1: I interviewed him at the Basketball Hall of Fame once

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Speaker 1: upot a time. And you know, I always say this

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Speaker 1: in this business, when you interview people or around people

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Speaker 1: who you were fan a fan of before you got

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Speaker 1: into the business, it's always different. That's when the star

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Speaker 1: struck ness applies, right because you know, I'm taught to

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Speaker 1: JJ Watt in the lunch room and everything, and it's

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Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's no big deal, but

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Speaker 1: You know you've seen Andre Johnson, DeAndre Hopkins you've seen

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Speaker 1: exactly co workers with these guys, but sort of are right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you're on the plane with them and everything,

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Speaker 1: so you get to know that. You get used to

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Speaker 1: seeing NFL stars, even from other teams. When you're around

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Speaker 1: those guys, it just feels familiar, right, especially when they

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Speaker 1: came into the league, since you've been in the business.

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Speaker 1: But Doctor J, when I met Doug Fluti, people like

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Speaker 1: that kind of affect me a little bit more, especially

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Speaker 1: Doctor J. Especially Doctor J. That was just he's doctor.

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Speaker 1: He's the doctor, you know, and there I am interviewing him.

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Speaker 1: But I held it together. We got the job done. Somewhere,

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Speaker 1: have a list because I forget, you know how you

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Speaker 1: forget sometimes, Oh all the people you've interviewed in your life,

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Speaker 1: and some of them are pretty cool. I remember, you know,

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Speaker 1: being on six ten, and I don't think the guys

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Speaker 1: do it as much anymore, or maybe it's just not done.

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Speaker 1: But the radio tours from CBS, which obviously owned the

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Speaker 1: station for a long time. CBS would have like Tom

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Speaker 1: Sellick wants to promote Blue Bloods and whatever other show

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Speaker 1: he's on, and you know, Gary Sinisee wants to promote

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Speaker 1: whatever was at CSI he was on. You know, a

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Speaker 1: bunch of those kinds of guys would come on the

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Speaker 1: air and do radio tours. Bill Macy, he's gonna talk

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Speaker 1: about Shameless or whatever. So that was kind of cool

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Speaker 1: to interview a lot of those guys. But those are

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Speaker 1: all on the phone, and you were one of twelve

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Speaker 1: they were doing that morning, So you better be good.

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Speaker 1: You better not ask him the same questions everybody else's. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: I didn't mean to go in that direction. But staying

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Speaker 1: on the broadcast side of things, Amazon will carry a

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Speaker 1: Thursday night package in a couple of years here, and

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be fun stuff because they're gonna have

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Speaker 1: multiple feeds of the game. Right, So if it's a

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Speaker 1: game that you're not particularly interested in, like the Browns

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Speaker 1: and the Bengals and for whatever reason, although it's hard

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Speaker 1: for me to pick an NFL game that's not interesting

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Speaker 1: because they all seem to have a storyline that's interesting

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Speaker 1: to everybody, and that's why the NFL is the greatest.

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Speaker 1: But anyway, Amazon is gonna have multiple feeds. They might

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Speaker 1: have a feed with no announcers, they might have a

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Speaker 1: feed with local announcers, so you could tune into the

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Speaker 1: Texans and hear our broadcast, which you know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: big fan of here, Johnny. That people would be able

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Speaker 1: to do that on Amazon, that is pretty darn cool.

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Speaker 1: I kind of like this idea. And you know what,

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Speaker 1: it's Amazon and it's digital streaming. It's limitless what they

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Speaker 1: can put together in this way. It's cool. I love it.

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Speaker 1: It's what college football did on ESPN. You've got all

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Speaker 1: those different feed so you get Fowler and Herb Street

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Speaker 1: on the main broadcast. You had a coach's room broadcast,

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Speaker 1: which you know I was all about. They would have

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Speaker 1: Garry Patterson in there. They had Mike Gundy in there.

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Speaker 1: One year. They would snipe at each other. One year,

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Speaker 1: I think Gundey and Patterson were in there together and

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Speaker 1: they were they were just kind of friendly sniping at

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Speaker 1: each other and it was hilarious. But to hear them

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Speaker 1: talk ball, it's just awesome. Then you would have what

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Speaker 1: they called their homer stations where there would be the

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Speaker 1: broadcast and you know NC DOUAA basketball tournament did this.

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Speaker 1: They would have a Kentucky broadcast. It would be Rex

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Speaker 1: Chapman and some play by play person affiliated with Kentucky basketball.

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Speaker 1: They did the national championship in college football and it

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Speaker 1: was Taj Boyd, former quarterback, and I can't remember they

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Speaker 1: got a they had an ESPN play by play announcer

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Speaker 1: and so you got the Clemson side of things. I

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Speaker 1: think this is awesome. I think it's really really cool

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Speaker 1: and it just allows people to see things in a

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Speaker 1: different way. I'll tell you the other one that people.

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Speaker 1: They do it on the Sunday Night broadcast where they

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Speaker 1: did it a couple of years ago. I don't know

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Speaker 1: that I remember seeing sing it much, but they give

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Speaker 1: you the video game view from above and you can

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Speaker 1: you can't see everybody, but I think if you went

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Speaker 1: a little higher and a little bit wider and you

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Speaker 1: got the whole all twenty two shot, so you know

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Speaker 1: your football heads could watch that, it would be all.

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Speaker 1: There's so many different feeds, I guarantee you one at

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Speaker 1: Amazon will go with within within three years of having

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Speaker 1: this multiple feeds, I guarantee you, as Sean Parnagas has

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Speaker 1: put many times, one of them will be gamble Cast.

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Speaker 1: I guarantee you there will be a gamble Cast broadcast,

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Speaker 1: no doubt. An Amazon I think would be the perfect

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Speaker 1: one to do it. I think within three years, one

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Speaker 1: of the feeds will be will be that it will

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Speaker 1: be nothing but gambling discussion during that game, no question. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be very upset if he did not trademark

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Speaker 1: that name because that name could be taken and Amazon's

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Speaker 1: got no money to do it. So I hope he

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Speaker 1: trademark did for his purposes. But yeah, I remember he

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Speaker 1: used to call it that years and years ago. And

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Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned about this now that we're getting

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Speaker 1: legalized sports betting really into the mainstream. You know, the

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Speaker 1: in the league is partnering up and the clubs are

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Speaker 1: and everything. I just don't want and I'm not gonna

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Speaker 1: go there. You know, if the Texans are favored by

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Speaker 1: ten in a game, all right, stop with your eye

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Speaker 1: rolls as you're driving right now, Vanderbar, what game I'm

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Speaker 1: giving you eye rolls? I'm by ten. I'm giving you

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Speaker 1: a hypothetical. I don't want to be an underdog, okay,

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Speaker 1: but sometimes I do because I want to overcome those

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Speaker 1: I mean, I every Friday, I've told you this, I

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Speaker 1: mean every Friday yours, I do my picks and then

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Speaker 1: I do it against the spread, and I always couch

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Speaker 1: it my saying, Look, I'm not giving gambling, gambling devices,

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Speaker 1: just a good way to talk about the games, and

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Speaker 1: I like talking about them, and so this is kind

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Speaker 1: of a way to do it. Seems gonna win, this

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Speaker 1: seems gonna cover. I mean, that's it. But I mean

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Speaker 1: I think once this happens Mark, with you know, this

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Speaker 1: much money. I mean, it's gonna be amazing the amount

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Speaker 1: of money that's gonna come in from it. But I'm

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Speaker 1: worried it affects the broadcasts. Johnny, I don't I know

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Speaker 1: that For years you've had Al Michael's make subtle hints

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Speaker 1: that touchdown really upset a lot of people at the

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Speaker 1: end of a blowout of somebody covers or whatever or

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Speaker 1: blows a cover that kind of thing. Look, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to see this creep in or just stomp into

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Speaker 1: the broadcasts that much. I don't want it to be where, hey,

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Speaker 1: we covered, we didn't win, but we covered. The players

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Speaker 1: wouldn't say that. But I don't want the announcers to

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Speaker 1: go off on that too budget I know I won't,

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Speaker 1: and I really hope it doesn't become the thing. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it will. I don't think it will work.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it will. I don't think it's It

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Speaker 1: may and you know, it's gonna take a while to

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Speaker 1: enough of an audience that has no gambling intake at

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Speaker 1: all on the game, that just wants to see the game.

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Speaker 1: And I think they're gonna be those that that speak

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Speaker 1: the straight up broadcasts that you're gonna get, I think

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Speaker 1: I just don't. I don't think it's gonna go to

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Speaker 1: that level. I do think there will be discussions, but

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Speaker 1: I think it's gonna be those that people that dabble

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Speaker 1: do their business, like, oh, yes, that's how it works.

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Speaker 1: Trust me. I know too many people and I've been

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Speaker 1: around too many people that dabble in the dark arts

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Speaker 1: that I've seen those discussions. Well, you know, I don't

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Speaker 1: want to you know, make a bet and have it

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Speaker 1: I've been watching Fear City on Netflix. This is about

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Speaker 1: the mob in New York in the seventies and eighties.

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Speaker 1: It's a documentary but it's good, but it could be better.

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Speaker 1: It is interesting, but it could be better. A lot

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Speaker 1: backs and we're supposed to believe, now, we're supposed to

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Speaker 1: over review of that show. I might still check it out. Tonight. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's do this next up you brought up or I

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Speaker 1: with you. Brandon producing for us tonight, Johnny Justin Fields

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Speaker 1: with the pro day and everything and all the scrutiny,

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Speaker 1: and now that everyone's getting a closer look, everybody feels

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Speaker 1: and I don't put too much stock into this, the

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Speaker 1: odds say that he's gonna go third overall. Your thoughts

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Speaker 1: on Fields going third overall? Maybe? Yes? Here, Trey Lance,

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Speaker 1: here's what I said, Well, that I wanted the which

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Speaker 1: my last mock draft, and I would go with Trey Lance.

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Speaker 1: But I could see Justin Fields making an impact on

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Speaker 1: that man. And I've said this, I said this that

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Speaker 1: night when you when the forty nine ers made that deal.

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Speaker 1: Now people say they gave up three first round picks.

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Speaker 1: I hate that that because that's it's disingenuous in some

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Speaker 1: sense because the first round giving up was the first round.

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Speaker 1: They're giving up is number three whatever it is, or

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Speaker 1: number twelve, I don't know. They're swapping picks, they're swapping ones,

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Speaker 1: and then they're getting two first Either way, that's a

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Speaker 1: pretty significant bounty to give up to go up and

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Speaker 1: not get a quarterback with an immense ceiling. And I

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Speaker 1: don't think mac Jones has an immense ceiling. I think

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Speaker 1: that Trey Lance and Justin Fields do you don't you

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Speaker 1: don't make that deal and then go get a guy

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Speaker 1: that's a singles hitter, Because if you want to find

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Speaker 1: a singles hitter, even though he might hit near four hundred,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna you're gonna have a singles hitter. You're gonna

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Speaker 1: look for a guy that hits bombs and does other things.

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Speaker 1: That's what Justin Fields and Trey Lance are, and both

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Speaker 1: of them, to me overall fit a Shanahan offense, and

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Speaker 1: I think it adds a whole different layer. The Shanahan

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Speaker 1: offense with both of them because of the way they

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Speaker 1: can run the ball that some of the things they

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Speaker 1: did with RG three when the Shanahans were together the

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Speaker 1: Shannahi in Washington, when they were doing some of the

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Speaker 1: things with RG three three, I think it can expand

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Speaker 1: even more with San Francisco could do with either fields

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Speaker 1: or Lance. I never bought the mac Jones stuff at all,

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Speaker 1: and if they draft mac Jones, great, fantastic, But I

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Speaker 1: will think that the forty nine ers made a major

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Speaker 1: mistake and not going after somebody with a significantly high ceiling, well,

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Speaker 1: you would think that you could get mac Jones lower

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Speaker 1: than three. I mean that alone has to be said, right,

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Speaker 1: And I'm not saying where were they twelve, I'm not

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Speaker 1: saying you're getting them there, but because somebody could jump

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Speaker 1: up and take them if they really fall in love

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Speaker 1: with them. And you know how things go with quarterbacks

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Speaker 1: going into the draft. It still blows your mind about

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Speaker 1: twenty seventeen as you talk about all this stuff that

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Speaker 1: Mahomes lasted till ten and twelve and you get Traubisky

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Speaker 1: going earlier. I mean, just the whole thing just blows

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Speaker 1: my mind. And then you have all those other you know,

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, twenty sixteen, one two one two, and they're

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Speaker 1: both both sets of those guys are gone from their

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Speaker 1: original teams. You know, Mark, we talked about this, and

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Speaker 1: we've talked about this a lot, but I think there's

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Speaker 1: of quarterbacks now that you're never you're never gonna win

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Speaker 1: a Super Bowl with just a running quarterback, but the

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Speaker 1: ability to run and create off schedule and create off

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Speaker 1: platform has become something that NFL teams desire. Some of

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Speaker 1: it is because they can't build the offensive lines the

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Speaker 1: way that they used to or the way that they

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Speaker 1: So's there's kind of a gap there, But there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of different reasons. But but NFL offenses are

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Speaker 1: going with quarterbacks that you have to be able to move.

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Speaker 1: Now you can't just stand in the pocket and kind

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Speaker 1: because there's only one Tom Brady. So that's you need

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Speaker 1: thing I will dispute for people that say all mac

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Speaker 1: Jones is not a great athlete. No, mac Jones is

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Speaker 1: a very very good athlete, and he's been coached very,

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Speaker 1: certain RPOs or quarterback runs for that open up things

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Speaker 1: in your offense. If Fields and Lance are just runners

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Speaker 1: as quarterbacks, then yes, then they have a low ceiling.

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Speaker 1: If Mac is is just a thrower from the pocket,

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna have a low ceiling. But if

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Speaker 1: you have Fields and Lance with that running ability and

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Speaker 1: they grow in the way that we've seen Mahomes and

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Speaker 1: Watson do as throwers as passers, then all of a

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00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: sudden they're gonna have their ceiling. Is you know through

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Speaker 1: the roof if you will at that point. So to me,

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Speaker 1: you've got to have quarterbacks that are mobile. Lance and

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Speaker 1: I don't think mac Jones. Mac Jones is gonna be

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Speaker 1: replicate the Russell Wilson's, the Mahomes, the Watsons more so

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Speaker 1: have to get to everything else we promised tomorrow, Johnny,

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