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Speaker 1: several of these games generated by flex Power. Flex Power

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Speaker 1: has done a really good job of generating upsets by

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Speaker 1: the not dozens yet, who knows. After this week it

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Speaker 1: on this one. Indiana is at Penn State Saturday. It's

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Speaker 1: this one's pretty low, but it's not zero. Navy is

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Speaker 1: fifty two record, and he's been at Clemson eighteen total seasons.

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Speaker 1: Like dadis twenty's a lifer, well, not quite a lifer,

425
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Speaker 1: but Dabo's got a mountain of equity. I mean, he's

426
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Speaker 1: been well equipped to suffer some down years, and this

427
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Speaker 1: is the first really big down year. Like they may

428
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Speaker 1: not make a Bowl this year, that's how bad it's been.

429
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Speaker 1: They're three and five right now now. Dabbot Genius was

430
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 1: always five steps ahead of the room. Dabo lost Saturday

431
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Speaker 1: to Duke forty six to forty five. He marinated on

432
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Speaker 1: its Sunday and he shows up Monday and he did

433
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Speaker 1: what any smart coach would do. He spent ten minutes

434
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Speaker 1: at his press conference excoriating officiating in college football because

435
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:20,760
Speaker 1: everybody agrees officiating sucks in the sport right now, And

436
00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,120
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everyone's agreeing with Dabbo, and you're like, why,

437
00:22:23,240 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: wait a second, shouldn't that press conference have been spent

438
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Speaker 1: with him defending himself and people questioning his job security,

439
00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: And instead, Dabo's got everyone with a torch in one

440
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Speaker 1: hand and a pitchfork in the other one. We're ready

441
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Speaker 1: to go after officiating. There's not going to be hot

442
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Speaker 1: seat talk with him. That's not the way it would happen.

443
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Speaker 1: I don't know what this kind of exercise would be,

444
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,440
Speaker 1: but it'd be a fun exercise to just live in

445
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Speaker 1: hypothetical land and see how many sub five hundred years

446
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Speaker 1: would it take to burn up all the equity Dabbo has.

447
00:22:54,400 --> 00:22:58,040
Speaker 1: And this is a famously impatient society, sporting society at least,

448
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,760
Speaker 1: and even within those elms, I think Dabo's got a

449
00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: lot of equity built up. So the next thing that

450
00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 1: I noticed Monday, part of it was joking with the

451
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Speaker 1: officiating thing. But you know, Dabo said something Monday that

452
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Speaker 1: stuck with me because I don't know what he's talking about.

453
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Speaker 1: I'm going to paraphrase this. He was talking about his instincts,

454
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Speaker 1: and he said, one of the things I've got to

455
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,800
Speaker 1: do is I got to kind of get back to

456
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,400
Speaker 1: following my instincts, trusting my instincts. That's what's really made

457
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Speaker 1: this place great. I've been able to trust my instincts,

458
00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: and I've gotten away from that a little bit. And

459
00:23:33,000 --> 00:23:37,560
Speaker 1: I've listened to too many people and he refused to

460
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Speaker 1: get into specifics, so we're left to wonder what he's

461
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,919
Speaker 1: talking about. And I am doing that. I'm wondering what

462
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:47,480
Speaker 1: he's talking about. What pivot have they made? When you

463
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Speaker 1: say that, when you say I've gotten away from my instincts,

464
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Speaker 1: I take that to me, and I've gotten away from

465
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Speaker 1: who I am and what I do in the way

466
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Speaker 1: I do it. Well, I look at the Clemson program

467
00:23:57,119 --> 00:23:59,360
Speaker 1: and it feels the exact opposite to me. I look

468
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,520
Speaker 1: at the Clemson program and he's in the past, he's

469
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:07,159
Speaker 1: promoted from within and it's burned him. And he's refused

470
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Speaker 1: to start using the portal more and it's burned him.

471
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Speaker 1: And there hasn't been a huge infusion of new ideas

472
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Speaker 1: in there, And again that's a very very broad statement.

473
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying they haven't tried anything new, or they

474
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Speaker 1: haven't hired anyone new, or they've never used the portal,

475
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Speaker 1: but at the very least they've slightly dipped their toes

476
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Speaker 1: into those waters as opposed to diving, in which I'm

477
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Speaker 1: not saying is right or wrong. I'm just saying it's

478
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Speaker 1: felt like they've stuck very close to Dabos when his

479
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Speaker 1: instinct says of late. So I'm really wondering, open ended

480
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Speaker 1: if anyone wants to offer suggestion what he's talking about.

481
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Speaker 1: But the other part is what are the changes he's

482
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Speaker 1: gonna make? If you talk that way, then I assume,

483
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Speaker 1: all right, well you're taking the steering wheel and you're

484
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Speaker 1: going to turn it a little bit. What is it

485
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Speaker 1: you're going to do, because there's no way. He looks

486
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Speaker 1: around and says, yeah, I like the direction we're going.

487
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Speaker 2: No way.

488
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Speaker 1: Now, he doesn't owe you an explanation or me an explanation,

489
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: but he owes himself an explanation. He owes his program

490
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Speaker 1: one his kids won, his players, and who knows, maybe

491
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Speaker 1: his children, I don't know, But I really just wonder

492
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Speaker 1: what kind of changes he looks at when this season

493
00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:16,680
Speaker 1: is done and the curtain falls, and it's Daboswenty assessing

494
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: Clemson football and Dabbo assessing Dabo. What has to change?

495
00:25:21,160 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: Or put another way, which lanes do you need to

496
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Speaker 1: course correct in by getting back to what you do instinctively.

497
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Speaker 1: That's a million dollars. It's a multimillion dollar question. Actually, now,

498
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Speaker 1: I'll tell you my feel I don't think Clemson football

499
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,439
Speaker 1: will ever be what it was again under Dabbo. And

500
00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:46,199
Speaker 1: that's okay because everything has a natural shelf life. So

501
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Speaker 1: he is one of the greatest to ever do it.

502
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Speaker 1: He's a first ballot Hall of Famer. He is what

503
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Speaker 1: Clemson football will be remembered for. He's the face of

504
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Speaker 1: that program, my generation and moving forward. When we were born,

505
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 1: we thought something different about that Tiger Paul than we

506
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 1: will think today in moving forward. I mean that's huge.

507
00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:11,000
Speaker 1: That means someone came along and made themselves the historical

508
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: face of a program. That doesn't happen very often, so

509
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,479
Speaker 1: we have witnessed that. So he's been phenomenal. He's been

510
00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 1: a phenomenal run. I think Dabos Sweeney at his best

511
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,960
Speaker 1: moving forward is good enough. To have Clemson be pretty good.

512
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Speaker 1: I just don't know. Unless there's fundamental change about that place,

513
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're ever going to be in

514
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Speaker 1: the mix to be a championship contendering it. I know

515
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Speaker 1: he says otherwise, and who knows. Maybe he's right and

516
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Speaker 1: I'm wrong. I think most of you probably feel the

517
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Speaker 1: way I do. Most of you probably if you look

518
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Speaker 1: throughout history and you've seen a natural rise and then

519
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: an arc and then fall on the back end, there's

520
00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,200
Speaker 1: rarely a second arc. Look at the win loss records

521
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Speaker 1: on your screen right now. We did this the other night.

522
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Speaker 1: I read this to you, just the amount of losses

523
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: per year. I'm gonna start in twenty eighteen zero losses,

524
00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 1: then one loss, then two loss, then three, then three,

525
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,240
Speaker 1: then four, then four, then five so far maybe with

526
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 1: more to come. It's not like this as a blip.

527
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: What it is as a slow decline. It's clear as day.

528
00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:23,399
Speaker 1: It's almost perfectly linear. It's clear as day. So you know,

529
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: some people say, oh Man Dabbo is nothing without great quarterbacks. Okay,

530
00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: but he recruited the great quarterbacks. They developed him. He

531
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Speaker 1: gets full credit for that. Who in the world would

532
00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,119
Speaker 1: have won without their best players. Saban won because he

533
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Speaker 1: got a bunch of great players. What do you say, well,

534
00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: without those great players, Nick Saban wouldn't have been That's stupid,

535
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,040
Speaker 1: just like it's stupid for people to try and undercut

536
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: Dabbo's accomplishments. But you lose great players, you lose guys

537
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,159
Speaker 1: like Brenton Venables, and all of a sudden, you can't

538
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: hold Duke to under forty at home, Like that stuff

539
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,560
Speaker 1: catches up to you. They have never replaced brent Venables

540
00:27:55,640 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: at that place. They have never replaced the caliber of

541
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: defense they were able to play. They have never restocked

542
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 1: the shelves with elite wide receiver play like they had.

543
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,320
Speaker 1: They have not had elite quarterback play there. And it's

544
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 1: just it's not one thing. It's multiple things that for

545
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Speaker 1: them to return to what they were that have to

546
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Speaker 1: get back to And I just don't I don't know

547
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 1: that that's happening. That's okay, it's been a great run.

548
00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 1: I just think we're more towards the end of it

549
00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:26,439
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570
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Speaker 1: football playoffs coming up, and we got the rankings out

571
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Speaker 1: and that's happening every Tuesday now. And I was just

572
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 1: looking over some things earlier today, and I think we

573
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Speaker 1: could have chaos on the horizon. In fact, I know

574
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Speaker 1: we probably will. But I was thinking about three different scenarios.

575
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Speaker 1: I want you to walk through these with me, because

576
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Speaker 1: I think there are some things that, if everything fell

577
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Speaker 1: into place perfectly, could just send this thing up in smoke.

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Speaker 1: One of them is what I call the Big ten conundrum.

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Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to follow me here. I know

580
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Speaker 1: some of you are visual learners. I am too. So

581
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Speaker 1: when everybody says, well what about this, this, this, this,

582
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Speaker 1: and this, and you're trying to close your eyes and

583
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Speaker 1: picture it, I know it can be tough, but just

584
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Speaker 1: follow me here. So Oregon they play Iowa this weekend.

585
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Speaker 1: Let's say Oregon loses to Iowa and then they went out.

586
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:25,760
Speaker 1: Let's say USC beats Iowa, Oregon beats USC, Washington just

587
00:30:25,840 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: loses a game somewhere along the way, and then Washington

588
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:32,120
Speaker 1: beats Oregon, Ohio State beats Michigan. I know I said

589
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Speaker 1: Oregon wins out earlier. Anyway, I know that's very convoluted.

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Speaker 1: What I'm telling you is I have some bullet points here.

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Speaker 1: None of these are out of the realm of possibility,

592
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Speaker 1: like Oregon falls this weekend, USC falls to Iowa. Oregon

593
00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 1: over USC one more Washington lost. The point there is

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Speaker 1: if Ohio State, after all that goes and beats Michigan

595
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Speaker 1: at the end of the year, there's a world where

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Speaker 1: all these teams are nine and three. So Ohio State's

597
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Speaker 1: free and clear, they're in. Indiana's free and clear, they're in.

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Speaker 1: But given the scenario I just laid out to you,

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Speaker 1: which is not insane, Oregon's nine and three, USC's nine

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Speaker 1: and three, Washington's nine and three. I was nine and three,

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Speaker 1: Michigan's nine and three, I don't think any of them

602
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: are in. And the Big ten has two playoff teams.

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Speaker 1: That would be a disaster. As Tony Pettiti and crew

604
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: are steadily pushing automatic qualifier formats because they think they

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00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: deserve at least four or at least whatever in, that

606
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: would be a disaster of epic PR proportions. So that's

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Speaker 1: the first one. The Big Ten conundrum is the first

608
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 1: one we could have on our hands. The second one,

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00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,080
Speaker 1: it's a happier one, would be what we call the

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Speaker 1: Big twelve lottery conundrum. This would be a conundrum for

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Speaker 1: the rest of the country, not for the Big Twelve.

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Speaker 1: So this Saturday, we'll be there for Texas Tech Brigham Young,

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech hosting Brigham Young. Let's say Texas Tech wins

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Speaker 1: that game. Let's say Utah just wins out, they go

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Speaker 1: ten and two, Brigham Young or Cincinnati beats Texas Tech

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Speaker 1: in the Big Twelve championship game. At that point, if

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Speaker 1: just those three things happen, I think we have three

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Speaker 1: Big Twelve teams in the playoff because Utah would almost

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Speaker 1: certainly be in as an at large. They're gonna go

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Speaker 1: ten to two. They were already thirteenth the other night,

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Speaker 1: and if they go to Baylor and beat both the

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Speaker 1: Kansas schools, they're not gonna drop. So I think they

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Speaker 1: would be in. Your Big Twelve. Champion would be in

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Speaker 1: and that's Brigham Young or Cincinnati. And if Texas Tech

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Speaker 1: makes the Big Twelve championship game, they will have made

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Speaker 1: it squarely in the top ten. I don't think the

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Speaker 1: Committee's gonna drop you out for losing your conference title game.

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Speaker 1: They didn't with Southern Methodists last year. I don't think

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do it with Texas Tech. So that would

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Speaker 1: be three Big twelve teams in what if the Big

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Speaker 1: twelve got more than the Big Ten. Also, there is

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Speaker 1: just as easily a world where the Big twelve is

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Speaker 1: a one bid league. Brigham Young just wins out and

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Speaker 1: wins the whole thing, Utah loses another game. Big Twelve's one.

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Speaker 1: Big League could be three, it could be one. Probably

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Speaker 1: more than likely it's two. But that both of those

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Speaker 1: things are in the cards right now. And then we

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Speaker 1: would be a conundrum for everyone who doesn't live in

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Speaker 1: the South because this would be the utter disaster scenario

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Speaker 1: for SEC haters. And here's all that has to happen.

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Speaker 1: Texas and Oklahoma and Vanderbilt went out. That's all that

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Speaker 1: has to happen. If that happens, A and M, Alabama, Georgia, Ole, Miss, Vandy,

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Speaker 1: Oklahoma and Texas, seven SEC teams all have one or

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Speaker 1: two losses. What are you going to do? What are

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Speaker 1: you going to do? Which two loss SEC team or

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Speaker 1: teams are we leaving out there? And even if you

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Speaker 1: so Vanderbilt's out of it. Tennessee's out of it. They're

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Speaker 1: both three loss teams. You'd still have half a dozen

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Speaker 1: two loss teams from the SEC. And to take that

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Speaker 1: a step further, Texas or Oklahoma would be locks with

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Speaker 1: two losses. But especially with Texas, I'm wondering right now,

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Speaker 1: next weekend twenty four to twenty one or something like that.

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Speaker 1: The Committee just showed us the other night, you get

658
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Speaker 1: minimal punishment for losing competitive games against high level teams.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think Texas would fall off a cliff.

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Speaker 1: And then what if they go and they beat Texas

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Speaker 1: Cole Jeremetrius Kubliic of SEC Network got Florida, Kentucky this Saturday.

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Speaker 1: I know you don't like your last name or middle

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Speaker 2: I am sorry, Cooper, your big brother apparently has taken

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Speaker 2: this personally and please accept my apology.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean Cooper Protagna, a friend of the program,

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Speaker 1: just a friend of ours, goes on your show this morning,

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Speaker 1: you and mackel Worth. We have him on in Birmingham.

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Speaker 1: McElroy didn't even try and say his last name. You

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Speaker 1: knows me?

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Speaker 2: Does he know me?

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Speaker 1: Does he know my last name? You even spelled it

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Speaker 1: on air to help people search him, and you spelled

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Speaker 1: it wrong.

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Speaker 2: How does that happen? I was looking at his Twitter

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Speaker 2: and the letters just got jumped up. I get I

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Speaker 2: don't who knows. Yeah, it was early. It was early

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Speaker 1: I have in my hand three matchups that are happening

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Speaker 1: this weekend. We already talked about him, You've talked about

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Speaker 1: him all week. Just tell me, on the order of concern,

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Speaker 1: which of these favorites you have the biggest concern. For

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Speaker 1: we got Texas A and M at Missouri, We've got

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Speaker 1: Oregon at Iowa, we got Georgia at Mississippi State. The

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Speaker 1: points spreads are roughly equal on those games. Oregon a

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Speaker 1: little bit shorter of a favorite. Which one concerns you

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Speaker 1: the most?

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Speaker 2: Oregon? I just think going there this time of year

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Speaker 2: for anybody unless you are built almost exactly the way

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Speaker 2: that they are. Like if this was a service academy,

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Speaker 2: I might say, yeah, I'm not real worried about you.

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Speaker 2: They're going to try to drag you into their style fight,

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Speaker 2: which is going to be a third or fourth less

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Speaker 2: possessions than you're used to getting. And then obviously the

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Speaker 2: way that they're going to strangle you defensively, not allowing

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Speaker 2: you to run the football is going to put more

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Speaker 2: pressure on one aspect of your football team, which is

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Speaker 2: your passing game, and then they can take advantage of that.

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Speaker 2: So doesn't mean they're going to be able to get

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Speaker 2: up and down the field offensively. But Grenowski's been great

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Speaker 2: running the football. I think that if Oregon goes and tries,

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Speaker 2: in any way, shape, form, or fashion to make this

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Speaker 2: some sort of attract meet offensively, it's probably going to

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Speaker 2: be an issue, and styles make fights. It's a bad

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Speaker 2: style fight for Oregon right now. I think they have

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Speaker 2: individuals up front on both lines of scrimmage that don't

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Speaker 2: mind the dirty work and don't mind physicality. But I

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Speaker 2: don't know if collectively it matches exactly what Iowa brings

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Speaker 2: have speed, athleticism, potential to create big plays. All those

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Speaker 2: could play into Oregon's hands. But going and doing it

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Speaker 2: there this time of year, I don't think I'm ever

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Speaker 2: gonna feel good about a team doing that.

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Speaker 1: When you were at Auburn or just your time living

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Speaker 1: in Alabama, have you ever been to East Alabama Motor Speedway?

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Speaker 1: You know where that is?

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Speaker 2: If you're referencing Talladega, Yes I have.

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Speaker 1: Nope, Nope, I'm glad you mentioned Talladega. I am. I

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Speaker 1: am very very note notably not referencing Talladega. East Alabama

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Speaker 1: Motor speed Motor Speedway.

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Speaker 2: I've been to that one.

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Speaker 1: Definitely not that either any times.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually saw the ones where they raced the

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Speaker 2: RVs at that thing. And that's not frash and burn

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Speaker 2: the whole time.

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Speaker 1: Yep, that's not it either. A lot of burn though. No,

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Speaker 1: this is East Alabama Motor Speedway. This is a dirt track.

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Speaker 1: This is out in the middle of nowhere in East Alabama,

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Speaker 1: and you could go out there on a Saturday night

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Speaker 1: be very entertained. But the dirt track cars look way

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Speaker 1: different because they're running on dirt. And you could have

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Speaker 1: you try and take it to East Alabama Motor Speedway

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Speaker 1: EMES for short, it's gonna be a bad night for you.

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Speaker 1: And basically that's what it sounds like. You're telling me.

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Speaker 1: You try and take a street racing car out there

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Speaker 1: in Kennick Stadium, rain possibly changing over to snow as

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Speaker 1: the sun sets, it's gonna be a fun time. That

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Speaker 1: doesn't sound like it's gonna be a good time for

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Speaker 1: the Ducks now number one in the country.

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Speaker 2: You know what it does sound like? Though? It sounds

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Speaker 2: like football is what it sounds like.

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Speaker 1: Oh, that's what we're doing here. That's what we're doing here, Oregon.

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Speaker 1: Can you play football? Are you still a football team?

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying you like snow when the sun starts

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Speaker 2: to go down with a game that has meaning late

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Speaker 2: in the season into the postseason, like that just sounds

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Speaker 2: like football. Sign me up for that.

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Speaker 1: I was like, you are of the opinion that I

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Speaker 1: was willing to do the dirty work, and Oregon maybe

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Speaker 1: kind of somewhat is willing to do the dirty work.

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Speaker 2: Case by case, that's okay, and that's fine. There are

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Speaker 2: a couple of teams living that life this year. Texas

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Speaker 2: is living that life this year, maybe not collectively wanting

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Speaker 2: to be that football team on a weekly basis. Saw

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Speaker 2: them last week. A lot of them were that way

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00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 2: in that game. So I don't know how many teams

848
00:43:28,280 --> 00:43:31,040
Speaker 2: in the country right now are built to go out

849
00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:32,919
Speaker 2: there and just do your job, and if that means

850
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: never making a tackle, never catching a football, it might

851
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 2: be for the love of the game. Route Not a

852
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 2: lot of guys like running those so you can get

853
00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:41,920
Speaker 2: something open underneath and be able to get eleven yards

854
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,920
Speaker 2: instead of eighty one yards if it's blocking, if it's

855
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:46,919
Speaker 2: taken on a double team. I don't know if there's

856
00:43:46,960 --> 00:43:48,840
Speaker 2: a ton of teams that I see in college football

857
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 2: that collectively want to be that across the board. So

858
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: it's not a real knock on Oregon. I think the

859
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,440
Speaker 2: portal has something to do with that. I think not

860
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: having a lot of guys in the locker room for

861
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,000
Speaker 2: multiple years together takes away from that just a little bit.

862
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 2: It's hard to build one of those football teams. USC

863
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: has been living that life for a couple of years now.

864
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:07,839
Speaker 2: It's cool to go out there and dip and rip

865
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,280
Speaker 2: around the edge and speed rush and go catch footballs

866
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: down the field and be on kickoff cover when the

867
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:15,400
Speaker 2: ball's going four rowers up into the stands. When it

868
00:44:15,400 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: comes down to taking on a double team or setting

869
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,239
Speaker 2: the edge or being the penetrator on a twist when

870
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 2: you're probably not gonna get anywhere near the quarterback, but

871
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: you're gonna get double team. Not a lot of guys

872
00:44:24,239 --> 00:44:26,279
Speaker 2: like that. When I see the teams that have guys

873
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,680
Speaker 2: that do like that, those are the ones that stick

874
00:44:28,719 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 2: out more than the others.

875
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,839
Speaker 1: All Right, So we got a coaching search under way

876
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: at Auburn right now. Message boards are really fun to

877
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,160
Speaker 1: listen to. You do talk radio five days a week,

878
00:44:38,239 --> 00:44:40,520
Speaker 1: so you've taken a ton of calls on this. You

879
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,960
Speaker 1: played there, you talk to people there. I've been sort

880
00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: of fascinated by, at least this is the way it

881
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,080
Speaker 1: seems to me. It seems to me. The further away

882
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 1: people are from Auburn, the further removed they are from

883
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:54,799
Speaker 1: understanding the inner workings they are, the more likely they

884
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: are to just kind of traffic in the same old stereotypes. Now,

885
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: the stereotypes, this is my opinion, you can give me yours.

886
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,480
Speaker 1: They exist for a reason. Like, for instance, if someone

887
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 1: just runs around and says, Auburn man boosters medal there

888
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: too much, you don't want anything to do with that job, Well,

889
00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:12,239
Speaker 1: it's because in the past there's a track record of

890
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:15,360
Speaker 1: that in some cases happening. But just because something's happened

891
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: in the past doesn't automatically mean it is what's happening

892
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: right now, all right. So I said on the show

893
00:45:20,360 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 1: earlier this week that for a program that sometimes famously

894
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,600
Speaker 1: can't get out of its own way, I think there

895
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 1: are shocking amounts of relative alignment right now by Auburn's

896
00:45:31,560 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: standards that may not have existed in the past. And

897
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: so the people who are yelling at I think they're

898
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,279
Speaker 1: yelling at without really being on the ground and being

899
00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 1: in the weeds of the here and now with Auburn.

900
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:44,799
Speaker 1: Then the second part is for all these names that

901
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 1: get thrown out there and the candidates, and it's Kenny Dillingham,

902
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:50,680
Speaker 1: or it's DJ Diurkin maybe on a permanent basis, or

903
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 1: it's John Sumrall. Whoever's getting thrown out there. I always

904
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: want to know. Number One, that's great, who's staffing? Like,

905
00:45:58,080 --> 00:45:59,640
Speaker 1: who you're bringing with you? What your staff going to

906
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: look like? Number Two, I'm wondering, Okay, do I really

907
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,040
Speaker 1: have alignment? I'm just asking the same thing about LSU.

908
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 1: I'm asking the same things about all these places. If

909
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,160
Speaker 1: I were to get Kenny Dillingham just pulling a name

910
00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 1: out of the board that we have written on over here.

911
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: If I were to get him there, who's this DC?

912
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,480
Speaker 1: What kind of Nil coffer does he have? Is there alignment? Like?

913
00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,840
Speaker 1: Who is he answering to? Is John Cohen there for

914
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 1: the next ten years? Is the athletic director that hired

915
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,000
Speaker 1: him going to be the one who's there for the duration?

916
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: Do you have all your big money players in line?

917
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:31,399
Speaker 1: If I have those it's my opinion Auburn's the top

918
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: fifteen job if all those boxes are checked, And it's

919
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:37,279
Speaker 1: my opinion, all of these guys could win there if

920
00:46:37,360 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 1: that's all checked. So that's me and I'm up here

921
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:41,640
Speaker 1: like on the roof, you're down there on the ground.

922
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: How do you perceive just the overall state of that

923
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:44,879
Speaker 1: place right now?

924
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:49,400
Speaker 2: I am in line with your assessment of it. I

925
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: think that in the past there has been a power

926
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:57,719
Speaker 2: struggle from starting with the administration, and I don't mean

927
00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 2: the athletic administration. I mean the academic admitted wanting to

928
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 2: maybe have more say, or the say, the only say,

929
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,240
Speaker 2: and then at times that went over to the athletic

930
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,840
Speaker 2: department and who was actually going to make the call there,

931
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 2: and then those two faction sort of butting heads, and

932
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 2: then once then there's been other times when I think

933
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 2: inside the athletic department there have been money guys who

934
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 2: wanted to be the big dog, wanted to be the

935
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,360
Speaker 2: only one, didn't want other people to have a say,

936
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 2: that then began to cause problems. I think there have

937
00:47:25,560 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 2: been some that have taken a little step back, some

938
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: that maybe have heard a little voice of reason as

939
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 2: to together, we can probably do this a lot better.

940
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 2: And I think the direction of college football almost forced

941
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 2: a little bit of that with where a college athletics,

942
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,080
Speaker 2: I guess not even college football. So I'm with you.

943
00:47:42,320 --> 00:47:45,400
Speaker 2: I think there's also a part of Josh that last

944
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 2: hire was, even if it may not have been told

945
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 2: or presented that way, that was hand selected by some

946
00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 2: of those individuals that were referencing. So I also think

947
00:47:57,360 --> 00:47:58,840
Speaker 2: that there's a little bit of it now that's like,

948
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:01,879
Speaker 2: all right, we got it wrong. We're gonna trust maybe

949
00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: somebody else's opinion on this just a little bit more

950
00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:05,880
Speaker 2: than we did last time. Doesn't mean that they won't

951
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,680
Speaker 2: share their opinion. Does it mean that they won't at

952
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 2: least say we would love to see this, or that

953
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:13,200
Speaker 2: you and I both know some of the names that

954
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,719
Speaker 2: have been floating around. That's obviously happening. But I don't

955
00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be a pound the table, my way

956
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:21,360
Speaker 2: or the highway. If you don't hire my guide, the

957
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:24,240
Speaker 2: checks run out, there will be no more donations, anything

958
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: of that matter. So I think that the alignment is

959
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 2: about as smooth and in line right now as I've

960
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,759
Speaker 2: seen maybe in my lifetime. I'm not gonna act like

961
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:34,520
Speaker 2: I was paying attention to it when I was twelve,

962
00:48:35,000 --> 00:48:37,160
Speaker 2: but since I've had an idea of what it was

963
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 2: and what was going on and how things operated, I

964
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,959
Speaker 2: don't think i've seen it better than it is right now.

965
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:43,960
Speaker 2: Of the amount of people who want to line up

966
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 2: and help, the amount of people who are willing to

967
00:48:46,680 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 2: just push a smidge of their ego to the side

968
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 2: and say, let's figure out a way to get this

969
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:54,279
Speaker 2: done together. I'll tell you this. I think there's a

970
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:57,240
Speaker 2: lot of those people, both administratively on the academic side,

971
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 2: administratively on the athletic side, and from the financial support

972
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,000
Speaker 2: system side, that are sick of losing. They want to

973
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 2: be proud of the team that they put out, their

974
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 2: teams orl that they put out there, so they're willing

975
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:10,479
Speaker 2: to put a little bit of the ego to the side.

976
00:49:10,520 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 2: They're willing to maybe not exactly get their way on

977
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: every single thing that takes place because they want Auburn

978
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,280
Speaker 2: to be great again. I think that has almost forced

979
00:49:18,320 --> 00:49:20,400
Speaker 2: a little bit of this alignment that we're talking about.

980
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: It just occurred to me the other day. This is

981
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 1: the first post Saban Higher that Auburn will have made.

982
00:49:26,960 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: And you will never convince me that the Hugh freeze

983
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: Hire didn't have a ton to do with just two

984
00:49:32,400 --> 00:49:34,840
Speaker 1: wins that he had against the guy a decade ago.

985
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 1: And so that like I mean that was those were

986
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,520
Speaker 1: bullets in the chamber when I'm defending the Hugh Freeze

987
00:49:40,560 --> 00:49:42,879
Speaker 1: higher if I'm responsible for making the hire down there,

988
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: and look, if he was the right guy for the job,

989
00:49:44,719 --> 00:49:45,920
Speaker 1: he was the right guy for the job. But that

990
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:49,360
Speaker 1: always seemed kind of nonsensical to me. So anyway, Freezer not,

991
00:49:49,520 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: we're on from the era where you're hiring a guy

992
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:55,080
Speaker 1: and the first words out of your mouth that right now,

993
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:58,239
Speaker 1: you got to compete against Saban in Alabama. You got

994
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:00,640
Speaker 1: to compete against the elephant in the room there. So

995
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 1: you've got that. You've also got what you talked about

996
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,640
Speaker 1: with the alignment thing. Here's the third thing. This applies

997
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: to Auburn. I think it's gonna apply to several There's

998
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:13,760
Speaker 1: this bygone idea that if you're a top fifteen program,

999
00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: if you fancy yourself one of the elites out there,

1000
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,080
Speaker 1: you don't have to settle for anything other than a

1001
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: finished product, Like you can go and just there's gonna

1002
00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:25,600
Speaker 1: be this endless supply, this orchard of finished product head

1003
00:50:25,600 --> 00:50:29,640
Speaker 1: coaches with multiple years power for coaching experience, and they've

1004
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 1: got hardware in the trophy case. And when it comes

1005
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: time for you to fill your job. You're just gonna

1006
00:50:34,400 --> 00:50:36,560
Speaker 1: you're just gonna pluck it right off the tree. That's

1007
00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: never been the case in any era. It's definitely not

1008
00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 1: the case in this era. So my mentality with this,

1009
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: if I'm Auburn or if I'm anyone else, is I

1010
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,160
Speaker 1: keep hearing names. So if someone mentions John Sumraw, someone

1011
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:51,919
Speaker 1: could say, yeah, but he's just a G five coach.

1012
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 1: You didn't have a whole lot of head coaching experience.

1013
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: Kenny Dillingham. Yeah, but I mean that dude lost in

1014
00:50:56,440 --> 00:50:59,600
Speaker 1: Mississippi State this year and lost to Utah and lost

1015
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: a huge and I just don't know. And they're all

1016
00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 1: these knits that you can pick with any one of them,

1017
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,959
Speaker 1: just like Ohio Stick could have when they elevated Ryan

1018
00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 1: Day from within, just like Oregon could have when they

1019
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: went and got Landing, Just like Oregon can have had

1020
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: with Landing on the job. I mean, he got really

1021
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,160
Speaker 1: got circles coached around him by Debor the first couple

1022
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,120
Speaker 1: of times they faced him. My point is Orgon kind

1023
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: of invested in their guy and said, all right, we're

1024
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna bite the bullet of the notion that

1025
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to professionally develop on our dime a

1026
00:51:33,239 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 1: little bit. But they look at it no different than

1027
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:38,919
Speaker 1: if I go and recruit a true freshman five star

1028
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: left tackle that I think could be All Conference in

1029
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 1: two or three years. It doesn't automatically mean he's a

1030
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 1: plug and play as a true freshman. I'm not saying

1031
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: you go hire a head coach in red shirt. And

1032
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:51,520
Speaker 1: what I'm saying is, it's not the craziest notion to

1033
00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: me these days, where it's harder to get guys to

1034
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: move than ever because the sport is flattened out a

1035
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:59,360
Speaker 1: little bit. It's not the craziest notion that if I'm Auburn,

1036
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,239
Speaker 1: if I'm Florida, if I'm whoever, I may need to

1037
00:52:02,280 --> 00:52:05,440
Speaker 1: go get a guy and just acknowledge, no, he's probably

1038
00:52:05,480 --> 00:52:07,680
Speaker 1: about seventy eight to eighty two percent of the way

1039
00:52:07,719 --> 00:52:10,120
Speaker 1: to where we ultimately hope he is. But he's gonna

1040
00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:13,960
Speaker 1: find that final twenty percent with our logo on his chest.

1041
00:52:14,120 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 1: And I could say that about any of those guys.

1042
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 1: I could say that about a lot of these jobs. Look,

1043
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: if Marcus Freeman wants to leave Notre Dame and come

1044
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:24,000
Speaker 1: to Auburn, that's awesome. I'd sign up for it tomorrow.

1045
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:26,880
Speaker 1: I'm not sure that that's realistic. I'm not sure that

1046
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,360
Speaker 1: a lot of the established candidates are really looking to

1047
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:31,920
Speaker 1: leave right now. So I just look at it. You

1048
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: can tell me if you disagree. I look at it.

1049
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 1: No matter who I hire, I'm gonna have to swallow

1050
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:37,359
Speaker 1: a little bit of that.

1051
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt because how many legitimate,

1052
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 2: proven candidates. And when I say that, and we're going

1053
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 2: to get into these myths of hiring a college coach

1054
00:52:47,600 --> 00:52:49,759
Speaker 2: here in a second, how many of those are going

1055
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:53,920
Speaker 2: to be out there with big game experience quote unquote

1056
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:58,520
Speaker 2: or a national championship conference championship under their belt, have

1057
00:52:58,719 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 2: coached in a Power five conference and have experience as

1058
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:03,759
Speaker 2: a head coach there. I mean, you tell me, Josh,

1059
00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 2: how many of those guys are gonna be floating around

1060
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,000
Speaker 2: during this coaching cycle. And then to go further than that,

1061
00:53:09,560 --> 00:53:11,840
Speaker 2: certain schools, how many of them are going to have

1062
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 2: their pick of numerous guys that have those qualifications, Like

1063
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,200
Speaker 2: the national championship thing, we know how that dwindles things down.

1064
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,760
Speaker 2: So then you go to the P five conference championships

1065
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 2: and guys who have legitimate, big game experience at that level,

1066
00:53:26,560 --> 00:53:28,719
Speaker 2: there's going to be a small handful of those, So

1067
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,839
Speaker 2: one two of those go away, then are you really

1068
00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 2: selecting from the same candidate if that's your criteria. I

1069
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:37,000
Speaker 2: just think some of these myths of having had been

1070
00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:40,600
Speaker 2: there and done that, or winning the press conference, or

1071
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 2: proven resume, all of those things have been proven wrong before.

1072
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 2: And by the way, the attitude and the mindset going

1073
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,160
Speaker 2: in to hire that guy has also been proven wrong.

1074
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:55,440
Speaker 2: We have seen national championship winning coach in this league

1075
00:53:55,800 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: come in from another conference and not win much in

1076
00:53:58,719 --> 00:54:01,479
Speaker 2: this league, referencing the s because that's mostly the open

1077
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 2: jobs we're talking about right now. So to me, it

1078
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,760
Speaker 2: goes down a little bit more of the bare bones.

1079
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 2: And it's why I've been talking about relatability a lot recently,

1080
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:14,600
Speaker 2: being a people person, understanding how to manage people. I

1081
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 2: think in today's day and ag Josh, you have to

1082
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:20,360
Speaker 2: go out of your way to have more people want

1083
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:22,920
Speaker 2: to be around you than you ever have before. In

1084
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,799
Speaker 2: college football, because guys can hit the portal and if

1085
00:54:25,840 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 2: you're a good receivers coach, hell, if you're just a

1086
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:31,479
Speaker 2: good recruiter, we'll find a place for you to coach

1087
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 2: on the team. We can make you one of our

1088
00:54:33,680 --> 00:54:35,800
Speaker 2: army of analysts. We can come up with one of

1089
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:39,840
Speaker 2: these fun titles like Sergeant at Arms, of Affiliation with Equipment,

1090
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:43,680
Speaker 2: whatever we need, social media investor. I mean, we'll come

1091
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,880
Speaker 2: up with something to get you on staff. If you

1092
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,560
Speaker 2: can bring people in and help us recruit talent to

1093
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,040
Speaker 2: our team and then keep it on our team. Yeah,

1094
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,440
Speaker 2: you gotta go find gms to come and run the

1095
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,200
Speaker 2: financial side of your team. Some teams are going out

1096
00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:00,560
Speaker 2: and finding talent evaluators to make sure when we're going

1097
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,720
Speaker 2: to look at this guy in the portal, he really

1098
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:05,080
Speaker 2: is what he is because he's been playing in the

1099
00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:07,480
Speaker 2: MAC or he's been playing D three, and he looks

1100
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:09,239
Speaker 2: like he might be good, but we don't know, and

1101
00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:11,960
Speaker 2: we need him to help right this very second. So

1102
00:55:12,120 --> 00:55:14,360
Speaker 2: I think being able to go get good people to

1103
00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:16,800
Speaker 2: work for you and have people to want to stay

1104
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 2: with you is more important than ever. And that's why

1105
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 2: the relatability part of this keeps coming up to me.

1106
00:55:21,960 --> 00:55:24,600
Speaker 2: So you can talk about all the criteria. I would

1107
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,160
Speaker 2: look at it this way. Do you have someone that

1108
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,719
Speaker 2: knows how to rally individuals, be it the players on

1109
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 2: your team, your staff, fan base, maybe even more so

1110
00:55:33,239 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 2: community that's going to be around your program and go

1111
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:39,120
Speaker 2: out and win games. If you've done that, I'll take

1112
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 2: a flyer on you. And then if I know yourself

1113
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 2: motivated and you're going to go out and wake up

1114
00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,880
Speaker 2: every day and not have to have me tapping you

1115
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 2: on the rear end saying come on now, let's go

1116
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:49,880
Speaker 2: get him. Let's go find us some five stars today.

1117
00:55:50,320 --> 00:55:51,879
Speaker 2: He's gonna be out there doing that before I even

1118
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,440
Speaker 2: thought about sending that text message. That's the guy that

1119
00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 2: I want at Auburn University, and I think every other

1120
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 2: university probably wants it too.

1121
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 1: I think what you said about the real ability thing there,

1122
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:04,120
Speaker 1: it gets glossed over because it's not on anyone's Wikipedia page,

1123
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: it's not on anyone's bio. You just want to know,

1124
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 1: all right, how many check marks do you have in

1125
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:13,440
Speaker 1: the trophy column? When Debor came to Alabama, I remember

1126
00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: the biggest refrain around the state and around the South

1127
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,080
Speaker 1: for any detractor of the move that they made there

1128
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: at Alabama was well, he doesn't know people down there,

1129
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,440
Speaker 1: he doesn't know how to recruit the South. You remember

1130
00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,839
Speaker 1: all that. So I had someone in the NFL side

1131
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,840
Speaker 1: of things. Tell me, it's so funny to watch the

1132
00:56:29,880 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 1: South's reaction to Alabama hiring Kaitlin de Bor because he said,

1133
00:56:33,800 --> 00:56:36,480
Speaker 1: you're emphasizing the wrong word. I said, what do you

1134
00:56:36,520 --> 00:56:38,720
Speaker 1: mean by that? He said, they keep saying he doesn't

1135
00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: know people, and they're saying, like, he doesn't know people

1136
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,000
Speaker 1: is in he doesn't know the high school coaches down there,

1137
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,239
Speaker 1: He doesn't know this, he doesn't know that. But what

1138
00:56:45,239 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 1: you're failing to realize, or what they're failing to realize,

1139
00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 1: is he doesn't know no people, but he knows people.

1140
00:56:51,200 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 1: And I said, interesting, stroke of the chin. Go on.

1141
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 1: They said, dude, all the rest of the stuff will

1142
00:56:56,680 --> 00:56:59,400
Speaker 1: fall into place. People want to work for him, people

1143
00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:01,560
Speaker 1: want to play for him. People love being a part

1144
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: of the organization. It's a very magnetic culture. And now

1145
00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,800
Speaker 1: Alabama hadn't struggled to recruit, they hadn't struggled to attract

1146
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,759
Speaker 1: talent in the portal, and he's learning in some of

1147
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 1: the highways and byways and the state and so it's

1148
00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 1: just it works because you get a person that knows people,

1149
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:19,040
Speaker 1: and then you've got you got a good staff because

1150
00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:21,280
Speaker 1: people want to work for you. Which works at Auburn.

1151
00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,760
Speaker 1: You've got the ability to evaluate which works at Auburn.

1152
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: You've got the ability to develop the talent because you

1153
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,439
Speaker 1: get the infrastructure in place and get the talent which

1154
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,760
Speaker 1: works at Auburn. And then the other thing that I

1155
00:57:31,800 --> 00:57:34,560
Speaker 1: pay attention to. And it's kind of hard to know

1156
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,760
Speaker 1: this because, like the dollar figures aren't always available, but

1157
00:57:37,840 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: you know from talking to guys, there are some places

1158
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,840
Speaker 1: that have to pay one hundred and twenty five one

1159
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:48,320
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty percent premium value to acquire talent. There

1160
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:51,320
Speaker 1: are other places where guys will take a fifty seventy

1161
00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:54,200
Speaker 1: five percent discount to go play because some places are

1162
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: desirable to be plus, you're going to get developed better there,

1163
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 1: whereas other places it's free agent, it's mercy. And if

1164
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: you get a guy that's the latter instead of the

1165
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,880
Speaker 1: former and creates that kind of ecosystem that to me

1166
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: in the modern age, along with the relatability factor, those

1167
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: are two of the most underrated aspects you can you

1168
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: can accomplish.

1169
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go two places with you. I'm gonna start

1170
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 2: with Kaylen quickly. I love the way the person that

1171
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,840
Speaker 2: you're referencing stated that because I think it's absolutely perfect

1172
00:58:22,920 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: and stated beautifully about the person that he is. I

1173
00:58:25,760 --> 00:58:28,240
Speaker 2: thought of this when you were saying that Kaylen de

1174
00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: Bor has met my children on multiple occasions. He's met

1175
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,439
Speaker 2: my wife, and the second time he was around my wife,

1176
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:35,200
Speaker 2: he acted like he had known her for twenty years.

1177
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 2: He would have never known that he had only met

1178
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:38,840
Speaker 2: her one other time. The first time I was ever

1179
00:58:38,960 --> 00:58:41,600
Speaker 2: around him was at a banquet at the Alamobile and

1180
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:43,720
Speaker 2: we had lunch sitting next to each other, and we

1181
00:58:43,880 --> 00:58:47,320
Speaker 2: literally talked football the entire time. We had never met

1182
00:58:47,320 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 2: one another, we had never spoken a word to one another,

1183
00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 2: and we sat down for about an hour and a

1184
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:53,720
Speaker 2: half that afternoon and we just talked ball back and

1185
00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: forth the entire time. And the thing that came to

1186
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 2: my mind in describing him, Kaylen de Bor has never

1187
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: had a thirty second commation in his life. And I

1188
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,439
Speaker 2: have been able to watch him observe him both at

1189
00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,600
Speaker 2: Washington and now at Alabama. I've been around him, covering him.

1190
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,160
Speaker 2: I've been around him a little bit more on a

1191
00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:12,520
Speaker 2: personal level. I've never seen Kaylen Debore I have a

1192
00:59:12,520 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 2: thirty second conversation with anybody. And I think that's kind

1193
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,120
Speaker 2: of what you're referencing there. It's never passing someone in

1194
00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:20,439
Speaker 2: the wind. It's never you know, hey, can I please

1195
00:59:20,440 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: shake this hand and just get by this guy and like,

1196
00:59:22,120 --> 00:59:26,320
Speaker 2: let's get this over with. He's engaging. And when you're engaging,

1197
00:59:26,840 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 2: people obviously want to engage with you because you know

1198
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 2: you're getting a little something in return, as opposed to just

1199
00:59:31,480 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 2: thanks man, Okay, good on to the next one. That's

1200
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,600
Speaker 2: and so Kayln has that I was also thinking about

1201
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 2: when you were referencing, like what he has. It's almost

1202
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 2: like quarterback with intangibles. It's not in the box score.

1203
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 2: You're not going to see it, but you're like, that

1204
00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,760
Speaker 2: guy's got it, Like he understands when to throw the

1205
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,480
Speaker 2: ball away, when to tuck the ball and run. We

1206
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:51,440
Speaker 2: don't mark that down in the statistical categories, but he

1207
00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 2: has it. And coaches players, whatever it is, broadcasters, some

1208
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:57,800
Speaker 2: of them have it, and we just know it. We

1209
00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,160
Speaker 2: can't describe it, tell you what it is, but those

1210
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 2: guys have that. And then to your second point, specifically

1211
01:00:04,080 --> 01:00:05,959
Speaker 2: with this Auburn search, and I would say the same

1212
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 2: thing to Scott Strickland and the Florida search. I would

1213
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,520
Speaker 2: say things to the fifty seven people making the LSU

1214
01:00:11,560 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 2: decision that find someone that wants your job. Because with

1215
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,320
Speaker 2: all of these I do believe there are a few

1216
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,160
Speaker 2: of those out there. There are a lot more that

1217
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:25,520
Speaker 2: are weighing all the jobs against one another. But with

1218
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:28,440
Speaker 2: certain jobs that are out there right now, there is

1219
01:00:28,480 --> 01:00:32,880
Speaker 2: a guy or two, maybe one with each that wants

1220
01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:36,600
Speaker 2: that job. And if you can find that, I would

1221
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 2: waste no time going and hiring that individual right now.

1222
01:00:40,080 --> 01:00:42,200
Speaker 2: Because you and I both know there's a lot of

1223
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 2: people that are weighing contracts against one another. There's a

1224
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,360
Speaker 2: lot of folks that are trying to leverage jobs against

1225
01:00:47,360 --> 01:00:50,520
Speaker 2: other jobs. There are very few guys out there that

1226
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,960
Speaker 2: can look at an opening and say that's the one

1227
01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 2: I want. And when you find that guy, you better

1228
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 2: do what you gotta do to go get in.

1229
01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,360
Speaker 1: There are guys guys that fit both categories. If you're

1230
01:01:02,360 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 1: an Auburn fan watching, I would take comfort in the

1231
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:08,960
Speaker 1: notion that there are qualified people out there who want

1232
01:01:09,000 --> 01:01:11,400
Speaker 1: the Auburn job, not a job who want the Auburn job.

1233
01:01:12,000 --> 01:01:14,680
Speaker 1: There's one other little conundrum here. Because of the way

1234
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: the calendar's changed, we're all a sudden firing coaches in October,

1235
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: and we've got job openings, and there's like a month

1236
01:01:22,160 --> 01:01:24,800
Speaker 1: and a half's long runway in some of the Penn

1237
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: States had a month and a half by the time

1238
01:01:26,600 --> 01:01:29,360
Speaker 1: December hits to hire a coach. And so you know,

1239
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: you got these coaches whose names are in the Tumblr

1240
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:35,320
Speaker 1: earlier than they've ever experienced before. So a lot of

1241
01:01:35,400 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: them are going through firsts. And then I'm on the

1242
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 1: phone with some folks the other day. You and I've

1243
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: spoken about this too, about what's the perfect way to

1244
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:44,880
Speaker 1: do it. Let's say I'm coaching at a lower level

1245
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:48,400
Speaker 1: and Pete State is offering me the job, and I'm

1246
01:01:48,440 --> 01:01:50,880
Speaker 1: pretty sure I'm going to take it, but my team's

1247
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:54,960
Speaker 1: in the thick of a postseason hunt ourselves, and like,

1248
01:01:55,400 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: I've got such a split compartmentalized mentality right now that

1249
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:02,280
Speaker 1: I want to be all in for this team. I

1250
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:04,040
Speaker 1: demand that they're all in for me. I want to

1251
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 1: be all in for them at the same time I'm

1252
01:02:06,280 --> 01:02:08,560
Speaker 1: about to head to the highest level of competition this

1253
01:02:08,600 --> 01:02:12,040
Speaker 1: sport has to offer. Every second, every day is critical.

1254
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,680
Speaker 1: It is my opinion. I really want to see where

1255
01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: your head's out on this. It's my opinion that there

1256
01:02:18,600 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: is coming a day, maybe even in this cycle, where

1257
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:25,160
Speaker 1: someone agrees in principle at the end of November that

1258
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,000
Speaker 1: they're going to take the job, take the LSU job,

1259
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:30,400
Speaker 1: take the Florida job, take the Auburn job. But they're

1260
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: season's not over, and there is a public statement made.

1261
01:02:34,800 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: I am taking the LSU job, I'm taking the Auburn job,

1262
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:40,520
Speaker 1: I'm taking the Florida job. I am going to finish

1263
01:02:40,560 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: things out as long as our season goes here. And

1264
01:02:44,640 --> 01:02:46,920
Speaker 1: I am trying to do this on the up and up.

1265
01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:49,080
Speaker 1: I want to be fully transparent. I think once one

1266
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:51,240
Speaker 1: person does it, it'll become a little bit more of

1267
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,200
Speaker 1: a norm. But right now, with the way the college

1268
01:02:53,200 --> 01:02:56,240
Speaker 1: football calendar is and the way the hiring cycle works,

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Speaker 1: you've got places that are legitimately saying we fired our

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Speaker 1: old coach because we want to get a playoff caliber coach. However,

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Speaker 1: are we willing to wait for a coach that's in

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Speaker 1: the playoff And it's so counterintuitive, and people who just

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Speaker 1: watch pro sports have to be laughing at it, But

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Speaker 1: this is the world we live in in college I

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Speaker 1: think that's gonna happen. I think someone's gonna get hired,

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Speaker 1: and it's gonna some in some form or fashion. Either

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a public statement or they're gonna strategically

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Speaker 1: have it leaked to where they then have to address

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Speaker 1: it publicly and begrudgingly they say, yeah, I'm taking the

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Speaker 1: other job, but I'm not leaving here until our work's done.

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Speaker 1: And it's like last dance, like McElroy said the other day,

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Speaker 1: you just treat it like the ninety seven bulls and

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Speaker 1: whatever happens after this, that's the edge of the cliff.

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Speaker 1: Don't even worry about what's over the cliff.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure most ads will look at it and say,

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Speaker 2: if we can chase that title and get it, what's

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Speaker 2: the value that's gonna bring next year, five years, ten

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Speaker 2: years from now, which is probably the right way to

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Speaker 2: look at it. And I didn't share McElroy's brain on

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Speaker 2: that one, where I don't think I could do it.

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Speaker 2: And then the main thing that kept popping into my

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Speaker 2: brain is you're spending how many hours day, Like let's

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Speaker 2: hypothetically say you had Auburn's roster right now and you

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Speaker 2: were doing this and you're making a playoff run. The

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Speaker 2: amount of guys that could be back next year. That

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Speaker 2: are good football players, that are talented football players, and

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Speaker 2: I'm giving that guy another month to recruit all of

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Speaker 2: those gentlemen to go play at the next place. I

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Speaker 2: would be terrified of that, because we know what happens

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Speaker 2: when our coach decides to go take a different job.

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Speaker 2: That portal opens up. Now we still only have the

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Speaker 2: one window, and I get that, but that would be

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Speaker 2: a runway into that window that would terrify me, Josh.

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Speaker 2: That would be the one thing that I would look

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Speaker 2: at and say, I don't know if I can allow

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Speaker 2: this to happen. I get chasing a title. I understand

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Speaker 2: what it would mean to the school, specifically if it's

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Speaker 2: one that hadn't been done before. But where would it

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Speaker 2: go if let's hypotheticals again. If we're referencing Lane here,

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Speaker 2: an ole Miss is in and we get further down here,

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Speaker 2: they win their first round game and LSU just sitting there, vacant.

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Speaker 2: Florida's just sitting there vacan Scott Strickland saying we're trying

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Speaker 2: but can't find anybody, and Ole Miss wins again. Scott Strickland,

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Speaker 2: We're looking. Every other job is filled like we've vetted

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Speaker 2: all the candidates, maybe somebody else is gonna show up,

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Speaker 2: Like you know at that point in time. Can you

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Speaker 2: imagine the press conferences on a daily basis after practice

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Speaker 2: that a certain coach would have to deal with if

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Speaker 2: that were the case. So, if you're gonna do it,

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Speaker 2: you have to put it out there. You have to

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Speaker 2: put part of that to rest. If the ad is

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Speaker 2: gonna allow it, the coach is okay doing it, the

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Speaker 2: players are okay with it. You have to get out

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Speaker 2: in front of it one hundred percent. You can't try

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Speaker 2: to play secret. You can't try to say this isn't

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Speaker 2: happening and then really you're gonna leave in the middle

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Speaker 2: of the night a little bit later, once your playoff

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Speaker 2: run is over. You have to put it out there.

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Speaker 2: But I think it's gonna be more complicated than even

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Speaker 2: we're thinking about right now. Different aspects are gonna show

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Speaker 2: up with it, and I still don't know. I go

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Speaker 2: back and forth of if I was the athletic director,

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Speaker 2: do I want to allow that because I just want

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Speaker 2: that title and what that's going to be moving forward,

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Speaker 2: or do I say no and I'll pull the ripcord

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Speaker 2: and whoever else wants to stay. We'll try to figure

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Speaker 2: that out. What's that SE's even a dangerous game too,

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Speaker 2: because you know most of them are going with that guy. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then so the follow up there, like a fan

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Speaker 1: may listen to that and say, all right, well, maybe

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Speaker 1: there's a happy middle ground. Maybe if a coach is

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Speaker 1: going to leave school A to go to school B,

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Speaker 1: which is in the same conference, you know, maybe you

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Speaker 1: make him agree, either verbally or contractually, that none of

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Speaker 1: his current players will follow him. You can't do that

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Speaker 1: for two reasons. Number one, I think in the real

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Speaker 1: world we understand a lot of these hires are package deals.

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Speaker 1: A lot of these dudes get a leg up in

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Speaker 1: the hiring process because of who they can bring with him.

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Speaker 1: It's gross. I hate it, but that's the way the

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Speaker 1: game works now. So you couldn't do it for that reason.

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Speaker 1: Then number two, it doesn't matter if if Lamee Kiffin

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Speaker 1: signs his name on a piece of paper that says, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I won't take any of my players to LSU. The

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Speaker 1: players get to decide where they go really ultimately, so

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Speaker 1: I'm not Yeah, that's a mess man. Happy December to everyone.

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Speaker 1: That sounds like it's going to be really, really fun.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what the perfect way is. If someone

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Speaker 1: paid you a billion dollars to consult them, what would

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Speaker 1: you tell them. The perfect way is.

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Speaker 2: If you're winning like that at that place, unless it

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Speaker 2: is literally night and day different, which in this day

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Speaker 2: and age, i'm not sure any of those are. Stay

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Speaker 2: where you are.

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Speaker 1: That's exactly what I would do if I were. If

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what I would do, not knowing anything about

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Speaker 1: your personal life. If it's just through the professional spectrum,

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Speaker 1: that's absolutely what I would do.

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Speaker 2: And then I would follow that up with I know

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Speaker 2: what you're looking at. But like Biggie always said, more money,

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Speaker 2: more problem exactly.

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Speaker 1: I tell Jesse that every day, every single day.

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Speaker 2: And he knows exactly what you're talking about.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, Tell people where they can find Cube Show.

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Speaker 1: Please YouTube, Apple Podcasts, Spotify. I'm sure there's some random

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Speaker 2: As well that will allow it to be played on

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Speaker 2: their servers. But just go to YouTube search Cube Show

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Speaker 2: every Sunday, Monday Tuesday, depending on travel wows and servers

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Speaker 2: being down. We're gonna let you know what happened in

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Speaker 2: every SEC game. We'll talk about some of these coaching

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Speaker 2: moves and take you a little bit behind the scenes

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Speaker 2: from whatever game we were covering that weekend, which this.

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Speaker 1: Weekend is Florida at Kentucky. Have fun up there. Get

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Speaker 1: out before the cold weather hits. I don't want you

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Speaker 1: catching cold. This is not the time of year that

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Speaker 1: we need you doing that. You've seen that immunity stuff

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Speaker 1: Alyssa Lang takes. I ordered some of it. I haven't

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Speaker 2: Little shot like she takes a little shot.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know what the name of the

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Speaker 2: Is that why you say immunity all the time?

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Speaker 1: That's cold Cublic, ladies and gentlemen. We'll talk to him

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Speaker 1: next week, and we'll talk to you next week. Friday night,

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