1 00:00:00,640 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: Can't I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,519 --> 00:00:09,200 Speaker 2: We are on every day from one until four o'clock. 4 00:00:09,280 --> 00:00:13,680 Speaker 2: After four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demandage the podcast 5 00:00:14,920 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 2: and you can listen to what you missed. That's also 6 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: on the iHeart app and first hour, we went through 7 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 2: the long list of California leads as the most unaffordable 8 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 2: state in the nation, no contest. Highest housing costs, highest 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,320 Speaker 2: rental costs if you want to rent an apartment, highest 10 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 2: gas prices, highest electricity prices, highest food prices, highest inflation, 11 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 2: and yet newsome with the hottest issue in the country 12 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 2: being affordability. He's running for president with that record, and 13 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 2: that's only a tiny fraction of all the things that 14 00:00:54,760 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 2: we're either in last placed in or first place in. 15 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,160 Speaker 2: And it's all bad stuff. So that's in the one 16 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:08,840 Speaker 2: o'clock hour. And along those lines, we have the we 17 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,080 Speaker 2: spend more money than any other state in the nation. 18 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 2: We have the biggest budget deficit, we have the highest taxes, 19 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 2: highest income tax, ized gas tax, ice sales tax, and 20 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 2: there's all these programs where tens of billions of dollars 21 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: have disappeared. I've told you that seventy billion dollars has 22 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: disappeared in well, a total of seventy billion dollars has disappeared. 23 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:35,399 Speaker 2: If you just add up the unemployment money that we 24 00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 2: sent out during the pandemic, and then you add the 25 00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: high speed rail money, and then you add the homeless 26 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 2: money that knew some lost track of. 27 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,040 Speaker 1: Comes up to about seventy billion dollars. 28 00:01:45,480 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 2: And that's just you know, you try to give people 29 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:51,360 Speaker 2: three examples, right, there's plenty of other stuff going on. 30 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 2: We're going to talk to Steve Hilton because we learned 31 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 2: about all the fraud going on in Minnesota with the 32 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:00,960 Speaker 2: governor Tim Watts and the samma On community there. 33 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: Then Maine yesterday checked in. 34 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 2: We had a story about the fraud there with the 35 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:09,639 Speaker 2: Smiley community. Here there's a tremendous amount of fraud. And 36 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 2: Steve Hilton, who's a Republican running for governor, he wants 37 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 2: to set up some kind of way for whistleblowers to 38 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 2: start talking and to do a massive audit of the 39 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 2: whole mess in Sacramento. Steve Hilton, how are you welcome? 40 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 3: Great to be with you, John, You laid it out perfectly. 41 00:02:26,280 --> 00:02:30,080 Speaker 3: I can add another few billion to your total. Remember 42 00:02:30,080 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 3: the thirteen billion that Newsom is spending this year and 43 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 3: this budget year on free healthcare for illegal immigrants. Now 44 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 3: he's open about that, But that's fraud because that's not 45 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 3: supposed to be happening at all, and we all know 46 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 3: where that's going to end up. Look at the report 47 00:02:45,520 --> 00:02:48,720 Speaker 3: that came out yesterday was the day before, about massive, 48 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 3: massive fraud in the medicaid system nationally. This is medicaid money, 49 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 3: remember that we're talking about it, called it medical. In California, 50 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:03,399 Speaker 3: there was a this is from within the federal government itself, 51 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 3: from within medical They did a kind of test of 52 00:03:06,520 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 3: their own systems and they found that forty percent of 53 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: the claims were fraudulent of the insurance that had been 54 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:19,080 Speaker 3: set up people in what they's that was just published, 55 00:03:20,080 --> 00:03:24,040 Speaker 3: it was a sample. You just think, that's what and 56 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 3: you know that all of these things are going to 57 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 3: be so much worse in California because we've had fifteen 58 00:03:31,919 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 3: years now of one party rule, no accountability, no competence 59 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 3: in the government, far left ideological extremism in the government 60 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 3: that is that has this attitude that the taxpayers are 61 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 3: just going to be milked. We're going to squeeze them dry, 62 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 3: take the money, grow our big bloated government, hand out 63 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: the money to our favored constituencies in exchange for their 64 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 3: votes and their support. I mean, that's the way it 65 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:59,520 Speaker 3: goes in these and it's it's been longer going on 66 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 3: like that California anywhere else. In Minnesota, you had one 67 00:04:02,760 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 3: party rule just for three years. Here we've had it 68 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,720 Speaker 3: for fifteen. And the point about the whistle blows is 69 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: this what was so interesting about the Minnesota story, and 70 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,640 Speaker 3: more details are coming out all the time, is that 71 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 3: actually all along you had brave, honest date workers and 72 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 3: civil servants trying to alert people to this. There was 73 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 3: a letter signed by four hundred and eighty Minnesota civil 74 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 3: servants saying, we've been telling you about this for years. 75 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 3: The fake autism diagnoses for kids that was just a 76 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 3: disgusting way of ripping off the taxpayer, the fake feeding 77 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:39,719 Speaker 3: programs that never happened, and the nonprofits that made off 78 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 3: like bandits with all of this money, including sending many 79 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 3: much of it overseas. We had people blowing the whistle, 80 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 3: not trying to blow the whistle for years, and tim 81 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 3: walls and the Democrat machine in Minnesota silenced them, intimidated them, 82 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 3: tried to shut them up. And so my response to 83 00:04:57,040 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 3: that is, let's get the stories out here. They're now 84 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 3: here in California. So we set up an anonymous tip line. 85 00:05:04,080 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: Very simple. You just go to the website califraud dot 86 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:10,599 Speaker 3: com and tell us the stories they're flooding in. Honestly, 87 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 3: we're getting it. It's very simple and not you just 88 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 3: fill out the form. We get it. It's anonymous. And 89 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 3: then when I'm governor, we're going to start to have 90 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 3: the information so we can stop this absolute disgusting ripoff 91 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 3: of taxpayers which has been going on for so long. 92 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 3: Now root out the corruption and the fraud. But we 93 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,799 Speaker 3: need the information, and that's why I set up califraud 94 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 3: dot com. We're also promoting we add its depending my 95 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 3: campaign money on this. We put it out. We put 96 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:39,159 Speaker 3: ads in Capital Journal, where you got a lot of 97 00:05:39,640 --> 00:05:42,240 Speaker 3: you know, people in Sacramento working in these government agencies. 98 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 3: They read that it's on that website Capital Journal. We've 99 00:05:44,800 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 3: got an ad saying tell us what's going on. We 100 00:05:46,800 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 3: need to know the information because you can be certain 101 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:51,719 Speaker 3: that so much of it is wayed. So it's just 102 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:54,160 Speaker 3: one other little thing just to throw into the mix. 103 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 3: That insane story about the phone line. Did you cover 104 00:05:58,040 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 3: this the high speed line to go with a high 105 00:06:01,080 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 3: speed rail? So this is Gavin Newsom in his first budget. 106 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,480 Speaker 3: By the way, on high speed rail, he can say, wow, 107 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 3: that wasn't all me. That was you know, Jerry Brown. 108 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:11,719 Speaker 3: And it's been going on for years. This one is 109 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 3: all him. In his first budget twenty nineteen, after he's 110 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 3: elected in twenty eighteen, Newsom says, we've got a totally 111 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:23,279 Speaker 3: antiquated system for emergency response phone calls. It's terrible, puts 112 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 3: lives that is, I'm going to modernize it. We're going 113 00:06:25,720 --> 00:06:28,359 Speaker 3: to have this new system. So here we are nearly 114 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 3: seven years later. They spent half a billion dollars on 115 00:06:32,160 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: this new phone line for emergency response, and they just 116 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:37,479 Speaker 3: announced last week they're going to scrap it because it 117 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: doesn't work. And this is the guy that wants to 118 00:06:39,680 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 3: be president of the United States. He can't even produce 119 00:06:42,400 --> 00:06:45,680 Speaker 3: a functioning phone line for half a billion dollars in 120 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 3: seven years. It's just a total joke. 121 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 2: It's difficult to believe that all this is going on. Yeah, 122 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:57,320 Speaker 2: we did talk about the nine one one service and 123 00:06:57,400 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: it's seven seven years. And when they try nothing worked. 124 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 2: They went they had twenty three stage, They had like 125 00:07:03,560 --> 00:07:07,720 Speaker 2: four hundred and fifty different nine to one one call centers. 126 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: They twenty three of them they tested out. They were 127 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 2: all for twenty three. Every single one of them didn't function. 128 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,080 Speaker 1: How do you do that? In by accident? You figure 129 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: something would have connected properly. 130 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:23,320 Speaker 3: That's the point, and going back to how you started 131 00:07:23,360 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: the conversation, it actually takes a level of genius to 132 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:30,880 Speaker 3: mess things up on this scale where we are literally 133 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 3: the worst performing states of all fifty states on pretty 134 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 3: much everything that matters. Highest taxes, highest costs of gas, 135 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 3: electric water, all the things you listed, highest poverty rate, 136 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 3: highest unemployment rate, worst business climate. It's just insane that 137 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 3: they're able to be so bad on so many things 138 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:53,080 Speaker 3: all at the same time. 139 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 2: They'd never been punished, They never lose elections, they never lose. 140 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 1: Seen us in the Assembly. You're saying, I'm telling you 141 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:02,240 Speaker 1: you're go ahead, go ahead. 142 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: Well that's what's going to change next year. We're going 143 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: to kick these people out. They've never faced a candidate 144 00:08:07,040 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 3: like me before who's got the business experience, government reform experience, 145 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 3: national media experience. I know my stuff. I've been working 146 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 3: on the policy for many, many years now. I know 147 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 3: this stuff. They don't. I just did a debate with 148 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 3: some of the Democrat candidates last Friday, and San Jose 149 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 3: they just about talking points. They really don't know what 150 00:08:25,840 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 3: they're talking about. I'm going to tear these people apart 151 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 3: next year, and I'm really excited about it. We're going 152 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: to kick them out because you can't go on like this. 153 00:08:34,440 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: It is just too much to take for regular working 154 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 3: people getting screwed. The rich get richer, their friends and 155 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,719 Speaker 3: cronies get richer all the time, their special interests in 156 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 3: the unions, and all the activists and Sacramento making out 157 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:50,760 Speaker 3: all this money, the homeless industrial complex, the nonpro all 158 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 3: this kind of scam that's been going on for so 159 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 3: many years, and regular working people are just thick of it, 160 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 3: thick of it. And we're going to rise up next 161 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 3: year and kick them out. 162 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 1: Oh guy, I really hope. So can you hang on 163 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: for another segment? 164 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 3: Yes? Please? 165 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:05,280 Speaker 1: Yeah? 166 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: And baby, also, if you could think about tell me 167 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 2: how when we come back, how this califraud. 168 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: What's the name of the website again? 169 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 3: I want to get it right, callifraud dot com. 170 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: Tellafraud dot com. What's going to happen when people contact 171 00:09:18,960 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 2: you with these stories of fraud and they act as 172 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 2: whistleblowers about what's happening in government. We'll talk more with 173 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: Steve Hilton when we come back. 174 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI Am 175 00:09:31,559 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 4: six forty. 176 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:36,680 Speaker 2: John Cobelt's Show, and you can follow us some social 177 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:39,600 Speaker 2: media at John Cobelt Radio. We continue with Steve Hilton, 178 00:09:40,080 --> 00:09:42,719 Speaker 2: one of the top candidates running for governor. He's a Republican, 179 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 2: he's a former a Fox News host, former advisor to 180 00:09:47,320 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: the British Prime Minister David Cameron, an entrepreneur and a businessman, 181 00:09:51,840 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: a very successful guy in many different fields. And you 182 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,600 Speaker 2: hear him talk and he makes perfect sense on what 183 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 2: needs to be done here in California. And so now 184 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:07,439 Speaker 2: he's got something to take on all the California fraud 185 00:10:07,840 --> 00:10:10,600 Speaker 2: which we must be swimming in. You know, we've seen 186 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 2: what's going on in isolated cases in Minnesota and in 187 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,480 Speaker 2: Maine and in California. Well, I went through all the 188 00:10:17,559 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: list of obvious frauds with tens of billions of dollars missing. 189 00:10:23,080 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 2: Much of it's sent out of the country. So if 190 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: you go to califraud dot com, you are going to 191 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,199 Speaker 2: come across Hilton's website where you scroll down and you'll 192 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,719 Speaker 2: see a white box and you submit your story. Your 193 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,600 Speaker 2: identity will be protected unless you choose to go public, 194 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 2: and you describe if you have direct knowledge of fraud, waste, 195 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 2: or abuse specific incidents or practices inside any state agency. 196 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 2: Just write it in the white box and submit it. 197 00:10:50,120 --> 00:10:53,520 Speaker 2: Steve Hilton will continue talking to him. Now, Steve, Steve, So, 198 00:10:53,600 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: after somebody types in their their fraud story on your 199 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 2: whistleblower site, then what's going to happen? 200 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: Are you going to be able to do? 201 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, So we're collecting the stories people are writing in. Look, 202 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,720 Speaker 3: it's very simple. Remember we're a campaign, we're a startup. 203 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 3: This is like one of the startups that I've done 204 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 3: in my career, and I hate wasting money and so 205 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 3: it's very simple and basic. I said to my team, 206 00:11:16,280 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 3: I want I want something incredibly easy to use but 207 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 3: incredibly cheap to make, and so that's what we've got. 208 00:11:21,679 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 3: It's very basic. But what we're doing is storing up 209 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,079 Speaker 3: the stories. Now, some of them I'm not going to 210 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:28,319 Speaker 3: name names obviously because it's an anonymous but we're getting 211 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 3: stories of a lot of local government forward and stories 212 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,960 Speaker 3: that people are really sick of what's going on around 213 00:11:34,000 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 3: them at the county level. The community collegists. There's a 214 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,880 Speaker 3: lot coming in on community colleges and the money that's 215 00:11:41,920 --> 00:11:46,200 Speaker 3: being siphoned off in the name of fake enrollies in 216 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 3: community colleges. So there's all these different stories coming up. 217 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 3: Here's the here's the plan. We're going to collect. Look 218 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 3: as the months go by, we're going to look at them. 219 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 3: My team's going to look at them, and we're going 220 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 3: to see, you know, is there a pattern here? Are 221 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:03,040 Speaker 3: there things that we should be highlighting right now to 222 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 3: blow the whistle in a general way, not using the 223 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 3: individual names or stories unless people want to be public, 224 00:12:08,760 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 3: but you know, points that we can make right now, 225 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 3: have a look at this what's going on there, and 226 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:17,160 Speaker 3: often actually the right response will be for me to 227 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,680 Speaker 3: work with an alert my friends in the federal administration, 228 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 3: the Federal Coument. Remember, you know, I've got lots of 229 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 3: good friendships and relationships there from you know, the President 230 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,200 Speaker 3: on down Frankly, and I know you know obviously Brook 231 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 3: Rollins and Seann Duffy and Pete Hegxeth and there's so 232 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: many you know, Doug Bergen, the Interior sectually, there's lots 233 00:12:37,640 --> 00:12:41,559 Speaker 3: of opportunity to take this to harm Eat Dillan is 234 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,320 Speaker 3: a good friend, of course, the Justice Department doing such 235 00:12:44,360 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 3: great work hounding California for the ways in which it's 236 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: breaking the law. And you've got Bill A. Sale the 237 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 3: US attorney who's been fantastic friend of mine, who's been 238 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:59,640 Speaker 3: fantastic in pushing on the fraud and theft of our money, 239 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 3: especially in Los Angeles on the homeless industrial cart. Yeah, well, 240 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 3: we've had lots of ways we can get it. 241 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:07,839 Speaker 2: Sorry, We've had Bill sale on, We've had Harmy diller 242 00:13:07,880 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 2: on a lot. I mean, I'd love to help and 243 00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 2: be part of this where if you know, your organization 244 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 2: can get the whistleblower stories and you could start getting 245 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: investigated by Bill A. Saley or Harmy Dillon or anybody 246 00:13:21,600 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: in the administration. I could publicize all this so that 247 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,920 Speaker 2: people understand as we get into the campaign year, just 248 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:31,679 Speaker 2: how deep the rot is, just how bad this. 249 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's then the follow what I want to and 250 00:13:36,200 --> 00:13:38,120 Speaker 3: I want to make this point, which is so that's 251 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 3: what we can do right now before I'm in office. 252 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 3: Once I'm in office, then we really get going. And 253 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 3: there's another aspect of this it's very important, which is 254 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 3: the there's an office. There's a statewide office which is 255 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 3: super relevant to this. It's called the State Controller, and 256 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: the State Controller has the power to audit any entity 257 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:04,160 Speaker 3: in seat of any state money. It's an incredibly powerful position, 258 00:14:04,480 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 3: and they can stop payments. The controller can stop money 259 00:14:08,640 --> 00:14:11,000 Speaker 3: going to any entity for any reason, So this is 260 00:14:11,080 --> 00:14:14,160 Speaker 3: really powerful. There's a guy running for state Controller called 261 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 3: Herb Morgan. He's down from San Diego. He's a very 262 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: successful business guy himself worked in finance. He's exactly become 263 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: a person you want in this job. We are working together. 264 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 3: In fact, Herb and I made this announcement of all 265 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:31,200 Speaker 3: of this together last week at the beginning of last week, 266 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 3: so he's going to be right there with me looking 267 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 3: at all these as we go along. But most importantly, 268 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 3: if you elect me to governor and you elect Herb 269 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 3: to state Controller, you're going to have a team that's 270 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 3: super focused on actually rooting out all this and protecting taxpayers, 271 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 3: because that's in the end what this is all about. 272 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:50,920 Speaker 2: And you guys will follow up after the audit, because 273 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 2: there's been a number of audits, like I think there's 274 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 2: been three major audits of high speed rail, and in 275 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:59,800 Speaker 2: the end they go, you know what, there's no paperwork, 276 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 2: are no records, so the money just evaporated. 277 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:04,960 Speaker 1: We don't know where it went. And then there's no 278 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:07,160 Speaker 1: follow up. That's it. That's the end of investigation. 279 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 3: But also you've got because you've got the people in 280 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: charge have the wrong attitude. This is what you get 281 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 3: from the left. They so cavalier and casual about other 282 00:15:16,720 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 3: people's money. Yeah, put up the taxes, will hand it out. 283 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 3: They don't treat it as if they it's their money, 284 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 3: and they treat it as if it's their money, not 285 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 3: our money that is being forcibly extracted from us to 286 00:15:28,840 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 3: taxes and we expect something in return. But you've got 287 00:15:31,640 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 3: a situation now in California where they take more and 288 00:15:35,040 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 3: more and we get less and less, and they just 289 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 3: don't care. And this is what you get from the left. 290 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 3: They have this ideological obsession with growing their power and 291 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: the government. They think government can solve all the problems, 292 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 3: even in the face of the evidence that they do 293 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 3: the opposite. They create more problems than they solve. They 294 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,600 Speaker 3: still keep taking our money. Now, the difference is when 295 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 3: we're there and you've got people in office who actually 296 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:02,600 Speaker 3: have started businesses, deployed people, understand how hard that is, 297 00:16:02,960 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 3: Understand how disgusting it is to take money from hard 298 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:10,880 Speaker 3: working taxpayers and small businesses to fund their ridiculous, fraudulent 299 00:16:10,960 --> 00:16:14,840 Speaker 3: schemes that actually make things worse. It's a completely different 300 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 3: attitude we can have. 301 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:18,640 Speaker 1: I think I think it's. 302 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 2: Even worse than their their attitude that they can solve 303 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 2: all the problems. They don't even try to solve the 304 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: problems anymore, because there's right exactly, they're just taking the money. 305 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: They're just stealing the money. There's so many hundreds of 306 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 2: nonprofits now connected to the government that are getting so 307 00:16:35,280 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 2: many billions of dollars in grants, and then they're employing 308 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 2: all the friends and relatives of the politicians, and I'm 309 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:46,400 Speaker 2: sure there's kickbacks flowing back and forth. It's a monster, 310 00:16:46,560 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: is what it is. 311 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: They're not interested now make. 312 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:54,600 Speaker 3: Anybody exactly, and there was exactly. It's a job creation scheme, 313 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:58,200 Speaker 3: it's a crony rewards scheme. I mean you look at 314 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 3: there's a very revealing moment in the general election campaign 315 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 3: last year presidential race, Kamala Harris, she visited some you know, 316 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,679 Speaker 3: it was some business as a black owned business and whatever, 317 00:17:08,040 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 3: and there's a little extract to the conversation on the 318 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 3: camp on cameras. It's a campaign stop and she asked 319 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:17,399 Speaker 3: this this person, Oh, how are you doing for this 320 00:17:17,480 --> 00:17:20,680 Speaker 3: business and how's it going? And this person replied, Oh, 321 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:24,399 Speaker 3: it's great. We've done really well. We're getting tons of 322 00:17:24,560 --> 00:17:27,960 Speaker 3: loads of grants, grants from the government. Like that's not 323 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,560 Speaker 3: what business is. That's not how it's supposed to work. 324 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,080 Speaker 3: What are you talking about, Like that's the first thing 325 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 3: you say, Oh, yeah, we done really well getting money 326 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 3: from the government. 327 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: Excuse me. 328 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 3: It's just unbelievable. But that's how these people think. 329 00:17:41,560 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: No, no product, no service. 330 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,719 Speaker 2: You just look at your bank account and you see, oh, 331 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: look at that some grant money has been deposited from 332 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 2: the state of California. 333 00:17:50,160 --> 00:17:51,400 Speaker 1: That's that's the whole business. 334 00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,040 Speaker 3: It's amazing. It's just insane. But this is here's the 335 00:17:56,040 --> 00:17:58,560 Speaker 3: good news. To leave people with the good news. It's 336 00:17:58,600 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: gone too far. We're going to turn it around. We're 337 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 3: going to kick them out in save California. That's twenty 338 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,680 Speaker 3: twenty six. It's going to be very happy new Year. 339 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 2: You work in government at any level, califraud dot com 340 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:10,480 Speaker 2: is your friend. 341 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: C A L I, F R A U D. 342 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 2: It's a very simple website to scroll down a bit 343 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 2: and it explains what they're doing. And you see a 344 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:21,199 Speaker 2: white box and just type in your story. You'll be 345 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:24,840 Speaker 2: granted complete anonymity unless you want to go public and 346 00:18:24,920 --> 00:18:27,679 Speaker 2: tell your stories, and Steve's a team will take it 347 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,520 Speaker 2: from there. Thank you very much for coming on. I 348 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 2: really enjoy talking with you. I hope you can come 349 00:18:32,800 --> 00:18:35,760 Speaker 2: in studio sometime soon and we can talk an luger exactly. 350 00:18:35,840 --> 00:18:38,160 Speaker 3: All right, Thank you man, Thank you. Forward to Steve 351 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:39,080 Speaker 3: Merry Christmas. 352 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 2: Merry Christmas is running for governor on the Republican side, 353 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:44,480 Speaker 2: one of the top candidates and. 354 00:18:46,040 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: A businessman. 355 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: He's a great communicator, having hosted the show on Fox 356 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 2: for six years, He's got government experience. He's a top 357 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 2: advisor to the British Prime Minister David Cameron some years ago. 358 00:18:59,240 --> 00:19:01,760 Speaker 2: We will can we come back right in line with 359 00:19:01,800 --> 00:19:05,600 Speaker 2: what he's talking about? How about the scandal and Chevy 360 00:19:05,680 --> 00:19:10,520 Speaker 2: At Hills. We've talked about this several times. Two developers 361 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: managed to uh, well, one of them has been indicted, 362 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 2: the other one has left his job. 363 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:18,600 Speaker 1: It's a it's a. 364 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,560 Speaker 2: Property that was purchased by one developer for eleven million 365 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 2: dollars under fraudulent terms, and then the second entity bought 366 00:19:29,640 --> 00:19:33,240 Speaker 2: the same property ten days later for twenty seven million 367 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 2: dollars sixteen million dollar appreciation in ten days. Where did 368 00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 2: that extra sixteen million go? I'm going to talk all 369 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 2: about it coming up. 370 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am 371 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:46,879 Speaker 4: six forty. 372 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 2: B ron every day one until four after four o'clock. 373 00:19:50,000 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 2: John Cobelt Show on demand on the iHeart app Moistline 374 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:56,920 Speaker 2: for Friday eight seven seven Moist eighty six, Get your 375 00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 2: Calls It eighty seven seven Moist eighty six, or usually 376 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 2: talkback feature on the iHeart Radio app and Friday at 377 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 2: three twenty and three point fifty we'll play the calls back. Well, 378 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 2: this story has been bubbling for some weeks. Now follow 379 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:16,000 Speaker 2: the details here because this is the epitome of all 380 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 2: the corruption and all the theft of your attacks money. 381 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 2: I mean, this is a fantastic example. There is a 382 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 2: property in chevy Att Hills and a man named Stephen Taylor. 383 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:31,920 Speaker 1: From Brentwood. 384 00:20:33,440 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 2: He used fraudulent documents to get an eleven million dollar 385 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:46,720 Speaker 2: loan to buy a housing project in chevyot Hills targeted 386 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 2: for homeless housing. Now, chevy at Hills is a very nice, 387 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 2: upscale community, and there's nobody in that town, in that 388 00:20:55,280 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 2: neighborhood that wants this project for obvious reasons, right, nobody wants. 389 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,440 Speaker 2: I don't know how many homeless people suddenly moving into 390 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,679 Speaker 2: this thing, but. 391 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 1: Y, Steven, I got to stay up front. 392 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:13,639 Speaker 2: There are so many people walking amongst us, business guys, 393 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 2: government people who they get up in the morning and 394 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: their job each day is to steal our tax money. 395 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,919 Speaker 2: And it's not like they're fooling anybody in government. The 396 00:21:27,960 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 2: people in government are part of the fraud. They're both 397 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:34,640 Speaker 2: in on it. And there's all these relationships, there's all 398 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 2: this this this invisible apparatus where people like Steven Taylor 399 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: and other others access money. And you'll see there's some 400 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: public tax money, a lot of public tax money that's 401 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 2: going to be involved. So just hang on for a minute, 402 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,280 Speaker 2: all right. So Stephen Taylor buys this property in chevy 403 00:21:54,320 --> 00:21:59,560 Speaker 2: At Hills for eleven million dollars. He then takes the property, 404 00:22:00,680 --> 00:22:04,560 Speaker 2: and that eleven million was a fraudulent loan that he 405 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: pulled off. He takes the property and flips it to 406 00:22:10,119 --> 00:22:15,760 Speaker 2: something called the Wineguart Center. It's a homeless services nonprofit. 407 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:25,119 Speaker 2: Uh oh, homeless services nonprofit. Wineguard paid twenty seven million 408 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: dollars ten days after Taylor spent eleven million to buy it. 409 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: In ten days, the property appreciated from eleven to twenty 410 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 2: seven million dollars. Now, Taylor's eleven million dollars, as I said, 411 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:48,040 Speaker 2: was a fraudulent loan. The twenty seven million dollars was 412 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 2: tax money, public money that Wineguard got to finance the 413 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 2: purchase and conversion of the building into a homeless housing project. 414 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:05,560 Speaker 1: Now, who was the middleman in this or the middle woman? 415 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 1: Karen Bass? 416 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:13,919 Speaker 2: She pushed for this project. Who ran Wineguard Center? A 417 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 2: guy named Kevin Murray. Kevin Murray used to be a 418 00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:22,359 Speaker 2: state senator, uh oh, a state senator. Now he's running 419 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 2: the Wineguard Center. He also was appointed by Bass to 420 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 2: be on the board of the La County Affordable Housing 421 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: Solutions Agency. The LA County Affordable Housing Solutions Agency had 422 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:38,719 Speaker 2: never heard of that? 423 00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 1: What is that? 424 00:23:41,200 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 2: Well, Kevin Murray was on the board. Bass appointed him. 425 00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 2: Bass also pushed for Murray's company to buy the Chevy 426 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 2: At Hills property from Steven Taylor. H that Taylor's been 427 00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 2: busted by the Feds over the eleven million dollar front 428 00:24:00,440 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 2: lung that he got. But now you got the twenty 429 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 2: seven million dollars in public money. Where'd that go? I mean, 430 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:12,479 Speaker 2: presumably they paid it to Taylor. An extra sixteen million 431 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,399 Speaker 2: dollars they paid to Taylor. Well, where did that extra 432 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:20,520 Speaker 2: sixteen million go? Could both sides have split the money? 433 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 2: Was there a third party involved? Was there somebody in 434 00:24:25,000 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 2: Bass's office that got a cut? 435 00:24:27,880 --> 00:24:32,480 Speaker 1: That's a lot of money? And they did this in 436 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: ten days? The uh, what's that? Current? 437 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 2: First uncovered this deal and the thing gets sold twice 438 00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:51,480 Speaker 2: in two weeks for one price more ridiculous than the last. 439 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 2: The Los Angeles County Affordable Housing Solutions Agency, Kevin Murray 440 00:24:58,880 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 2: was on the board. 441 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,360 Speaker 1: He now resigns. What did that agency do? 442 00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 2: They spent measure a sales tax revenue on affordable housing? 443 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:11,479 Speaker 1: How about that? 444 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 2: So he's running he's on the board of an agency 445 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,399 Speaker 2: that spends the tax money meant for homeless housing. You 446 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 2: voted for an increase in measure a funding just last November. 447 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:30,800 Speaker 2: Told you not to people did. And now we're finding 448 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,400 Speaker 2: out that the guy running. 449 00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:37,479 Speaker 1: The agency. 450 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: Paid took twenty seven million dollars in tax money and 451 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 2: paid the first guy who bought it for eleven million 452 00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 2: ten days earlier. Now I'm sure Steven Taylor wasn't keeping 453 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:55,399 Speaker 2: the whole twenty seven million. Why would Kevin Murray spend 454 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 2: the twenty seven million? Again? Where did that money recirculate to? 455 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:06,520 Speaker 2: Last week, a Bass representative told the staff at the 456 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:11,400 Speaker 2: La County Affordable Housing Solutions Agency that Murray resigned November 457 00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 2: twenty ninth. Of course, Murray is not commenting. Karen Bass 458 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,840 Speaker 2: in her office not commenting. Murray has been placed on 459 00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:27,040 Speaker 2: leave by the Wineguard Center. A second executive, Ben Rosen, 460 00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 2: the director of real estate development. He's been placed on 461 00:26:30,600 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: leave while the nonprofit conducts an internal review into its 462 00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:35,560 Speaker 2: housing projects. 463 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,160 Speaker 1: Right because nobody knew what was going on. 464 00:26:39,560 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 2: So Rosen and Murray blowed twenty seven million dollars on 465 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 2: an eleven million dollar property, and it was fine by 466 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 2: everybody at the Lineguard Center. Until this story hit the media, 467 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 2: It's like, Wow, we're going to put them on leave 468 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,760 Speaker 2: and do an investigation. 469 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: This is just outrageous. This place used to be a 470 00:26:58,440 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: nursing home. 471 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 2: People in a nursing homer usually very docile, they don't 472 00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:05,160 Speaker 2: really cause problems. 473 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 1: But homeless housing, Oh, oh my god. 474 00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 2: Murray is claiming that he has no prior relationship with 475 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,920 Speaker 2: Steven Taylor, no continuing relationship. 476 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,399 Speaker 1: And get this claim from Kevin Murray. 477 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 2: Taxpayers paid fair market value for the property. The fair 478 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 2: market value was eleven million, ten million. Ten days later 479 00:27:29,880 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 2: it's twenty seven million. And Kevin Murray says, well that's fair. 480 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 2: This is what we've got. And Bass was the broker 481 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:46,680 Speaker 2: on the deal. Keep voting the way you're voting. 482 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI Am 483 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:52,520 Speaker 4: six forty. 484 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,840 Speaker 2: I've just been telling you how a couple of well 485 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 2: one developer at a nonprofit agency it looks like allegedly 486 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,840 Speaker 2: may have conspired to bilk US taxpayers out of twenty 487 00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 2: seven million dollars for a homeless housing project. There's been 488 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:19,960 Speaker 2: a lot of federal money, federal housing money stolen by 489 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 2: the government and the nonprofits, and Bill Saley, the US 490 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 2: the US attorney for this Central District in Los Angeles, 491 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,439 Speaker 2: has said that if there's federal money involved, they're gonna 492 00:28:33,680 --> 00:28:36,000 Speaker 2: do an investigation if they get a whiff of any corruption. 493 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 2: And I think there's obviously more than a whiff floating 494 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: in the air. And what's fascinating is, well, this is 495 00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: what we were talking about the other night an Alex 496 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:54,400 Speaker 2: Michaelson's CNN show. Gavin Newsom wants billions of dollars in 497 00:28:54,920 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 2: federal aid to rebuild after the fire. But my argument 498 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: is because Trump's administration talk to him. Why would they 499 00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 2: talk to him when it's been documented that he's blown 500 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 2: or lost billions of dollars for all kinds of things, 501 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:17,720 Speaker 2: from homelessness to high speed rail to unemployment money. Why 502 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: would you give him more, even if it's for something 503 00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 2: noble like the Palisades and Altadena rebuilds. And the same 504 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 2: thing is going to be happening with federal money for homelessness. 505 00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,920 Speaker 2: It looks like the federal government is going to be 506 00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:39,400 Speaker 2: cutting the money that they give to the state and 507 00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: to the city and county because the Feds aren't going 508 00:29:44,760 --> 00:29:51,080 Speaker 2: to pay as much anymore. For subsidized permanent housing, and 509 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:55,880 Speaker 2: they're squealing, claiming, well, this is going to create homelessness. 510 00:29:56,800 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 2: If we don't have the money for these projects, then 511 00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 2: you're gonna have more homeless So get this. They take 512 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:07,840 Speaker 2: billions of dollars in money, they waste it, they steal it. 513 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 2: Homelessness goes up anyway, and then when the Trump administration 514 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:14,440 Speaker 2: wants to cut off the federal funding, they go, well, 515 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,240 Speaker 2: wait a second, you're going to end up with more homelessness. Well, 516 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,400 Speaker 2: we got more homelessness after we paid all these billions. 517 00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 1: Now you're saying, if we stop giving you the billions, we. 518 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 2: Get more homelessness. Well, it looks like we get more 519 00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: homelessness either way, do we. The difference is we don't 520 00:30:29,800 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 2: spend the billions because right now we get as system 521 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 2: where we're paying extra to get more homeless And so 522 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:42,200 Speaker 2: the city in County wants to use the measure a 523 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 2: tax money that I told you not to vote for. 524 00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,280 Speaker 2: They use the measure a tax money for that Chevy 525 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:51,239 Speaker 2: Hills debacle. They want to use the Chevy. They want 526 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 2: to use the measure a tax money now to cover 527 00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 2: what the Trump administration is cutting, and they should cut 528 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:02,680 Speaker 2: it that's a hell of a threat. You cut our money, 529 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,080 Speaker 2: you cut our funding, You're gonna end up with more homeless. 530 00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,720 Speaker 2: It's like, hey, oh well, looks like we're screwity either way. 531 00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,200 Speaker 2: At least maybe we can keep some of the tax money. 532 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 2: You believe this. Nathia Rahman, that nut. She's the chairwoman 533 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 2: of a council's La City Council Housing and Homelessness Committee. 534 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 2: You talk about somebody who's a complete and utter failure. 535 00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 2: This is not a normal moment. We cannot treat it 536 00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: like it's a normal moment. There is a potential for 537 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 2: the entire homeless service system that we have built here 538 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 2: to fall apart. Oh well, can you imagine if the 539 00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 2: homeless services system fell apart. Wow, they're just upset. They 540 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: can't steal the money anymore. So they're gonna they're gonna 541 00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 2: cry that there's gonna be a big disaster coming. 542 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: Well, what's gonna happen? 543 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:00,200 Speaker 2: What are you gonna unleash seventy thousand homeless people on 544 00:32:00,240 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 2: the streets. We have seventy thousand homeless people on the streets. 545 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:08,760 Speaker 2: You can't manufacture anymore, can you. They're acting like like 546 00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:12,440 Speaker 2: this housing money actually went for housing for the homeless. 547 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: A lot of it didn't. 548 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:17,400 Speaker 2: It went into their pockets and the pockets of their 549 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 2: friends and relatives and their political benefactors. 550 00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 1: What a scam, what a racket. 551 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 2: If they built the housing, then the homeless will be 552 00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: living in the housing, except they're not. 553 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:37,160 Speaker 1: They're on the street. So darn. There's not that much 554 00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,440 Speaker 1: housing to close, not much housing to empty out. 555 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,040 Speaker 2: These people were never put in the housing that we 556 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 2: already paid for. All right, more tomorrow. Hey, you've been 557 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 2: listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. You can always 558 00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: hear the show live on KFI AM six forty from 559 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,760 Speaker 2: one to four pm every Monday through Friday, and of course, 560 00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,520 Speaker 2: anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.