1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: Well, never a dull moment in the National Football League. 2 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:12,720 Speaker 1: Never a dull moment, certainly with the Indianapolis Colts. Welcome back, everybody, 3 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: a lot to talk about. A big show today, a 4 00:00:15,080 --> 00:00:18,279 Speaker 1: podcast wise on the Jack Doyle Podcast. That's former number 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: eighty four right there, Jack Doyle, I'm Matt Taylor. Welcome 6 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: into the Colts podcast channel, and welcome to week fifteen 7 00:00:24,520 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 1: here as the eight and five Colts look to snap 8 00:00:27,080 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: a three game losing skit on the road coming up 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: on Sunday against a good Seattle Seahawks team ten and three. 10 00:00:33,479 --> 00:00:35,960 Speaker 1: They've won three in a row, they got the home 11 00:00:36,000 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 1: field advantage, and they're one of the best teams in 12 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,200 Speaker 1: the NFC West and vying for the top spot believe 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:43,840 Speaker 1: it or not in the NFC here in a couple 14 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: of weeks when the playoff standings are finalized, Jack Doyle, 15 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 1: whoa big, big news, big story your guy, former teammate, 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers. We're gonna spend a lot of time obviously 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: today talking about this. This is coming out on Thursday. 18 00:00:59,120 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: We are taping this ahead of Thursday, so we still 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: haven't as we sit here and talk to you right now, 20 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:07,920 Speaker 1: we haven't heard any updates on or from Shane Stiken 21 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 1: when it comes to the status of the Colts quarterbacks 22 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: with Riley Leonard or where is Philip Rivers Brett Rippen, 23 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,960 Speaker 1: Is he a viable candidate to start for the Colts 24 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: on Sunday at quarterback? So a lot of TBD as 25 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:24,560 Speaker 1: we sit here and have this conversation, So keep that 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: in mind. But Jack Doyle, Philip Rivers last played for 27 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:31,440 Speaker 1: the Colts in twenty twenty, last played in the NFL 28 00:01:31,480 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty. The Colts are certainly in a precarious 29 00:01:34,800 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: situation right now. Right last Sunday against the Jaguars was 30 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: kind of the worst case scenario. You lose that game, 31 00:01:41,600 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: you lose footing inside the AFC South, you lose your 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: starting quarterback, and Daniel Jones, Riley Lennard, the rookie out 33 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,800 Speaker 1: of Notre Dame, comes in, he gets banged up again. 34 00:01:50,880 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: We don't know where he is going into Sunday, and 35 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: the Colts were they didn't have a whole lot of options, 36 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: right Philip Rivers was called, He came in, worked out 37 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: on the practice squad. As of right now, that's the preface, 38 00:02:03,360 --> 00:02:05,680 Speaker 1: that's the setup for all of this Jackie, your thoughts 39 00:02:05,720 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: and where the Colts are at right now? With Philip 40 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:09,399 Speaker 1: Rivers in the fold. 41 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt, like you you know, started the show, never 42 00:02:11,800 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 2: a dull moment, right and in the National Football League 43 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 2: and but yeah, hey, I'm rocking the hat. I have 44 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: to mention the hat that i'm you know, that's the 45 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 2: hat that's too small for my head, noonchepie. That's a 46 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 2: that's Phil's go to phrase. It's Latin for now I begin, 47 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 2: and and basically it's just you know, here we go. 48 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: It's the next Yeah, it's a next play mentality We've 49 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 2: talked about a lot on the show and and and everything. 50 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 2: He uses it all throughout his life. And uh man, 51 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 2: I just I love Philip Rivers and I can't speak 52 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 2: highly enough about him. You know, this is gonna be 53 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:45,640 Speaker 2: quite entertaining, and I'm super excited to see where it 54 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:46,120 Speaker 2: all goes. 55 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: Well, there's let's let's start to unpack it all right, 56 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: this is like an onion. There's a lot of different layers, a. 57 00:02:51,320 --> 00:02:52,040 Speaker 3: Lot of layers. 58 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: Let's start with just where where the Colts are at? Okay, 59 00:02:56,480 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: I get like why fans are taken back this surprised 60 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 1: by this sort of astonished. I get it. I was too. 61 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: I was blown away when I saw these reports. But 62 00:03:07,880 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: think about where the Colts are at right now. They're 63 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,760 Speaker 1: down their starting quarterback, their backup quarterback is hurt. We 64 00:03:13,800 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 1: don't know if Riley Leonard's going to be able to 65 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 1: play give it a go. It's week fifteen, it's December, right, 66 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 1: there's four games left, and the trading or the trade 67 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: deadline has come and gone. There's not a lot of 68 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:29,919 Speaker 1: options out there, right, So when you think it through 69 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: and the dust kind of settles on, just the wow 70 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: factor of hearing about the news, it's very it's logical 71 00:03:37,760 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 1: to me how the Colts got here. Do you see 72 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: it the same way? Like, there's not a whole lot 73 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: of viable options out there. 74 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like you said, there's not a lot of with 75 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: where we are in the season this, you know, week fifteen, 76 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 2: we're a playoff team, Like we're trying to get to 77 00:03:52,200 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 2: the playoffs, you know, and there's not a lot of options. 78 00:03:55,120 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 2: And when you're a coach, right, this is the first 79 00:03:57,600 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 2: thing I thought of, and especially when you're trying to 80 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 2: someone go out there in the quarterback position, you have 81 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: to have someone you can trust, right, And there's not 82 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 2: a lot of options out there. And I know for 83 00:04:07,680 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: a fact there's no one Shane Sike can trust more 84 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,800 Speaker 2: than Philip Rivers. And they just see football the same way. 85 00:04:12,920 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: And if it ends up being Phil, man'na be, it's 86 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: gonna be a show. 87 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: You know. 88 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 2: He's just like I said, I have so much respect 89 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 2: for Phil and the fact that he wants to do 90 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 2: this just shows what he is as a football guy. 91 00:04:24,920 --> 00:04:26,119 Speaker 3: Man. He just loves the game. 92 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:28,719 Speaker 2: And like you said, Matt, you know, there wasn't a 93 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 2: ton of options out there, you know, So you're trying 94 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 2: to do the best you can to get this team 95 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,960 Speaker 2: a win because a win will cure a lot in 96 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:37,960 Speaker 2: the way this past month has gone. 97 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: Well, we'll follow me on this, right, if you bring 98 00:04:39,839 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: in guy off the street, and by the way, the 99 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,040 Speaker 1: guy off the street is on the street for a reason, 100 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: right this late in the season, right when thirty two 101 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 1: teams are competing still, right, So you've got to factor 102 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 1: that into it too. So if you have insert name 103 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,840 Speaker 1: here versus Philip Rivers, obviously you're going to work out 104 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: Philip Rivers to see where he's at. Conditionally, you know, physically, 105 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:05,040 Speaker 1: arm strength, and you have to do that with everybody. 106 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,600 Speaker 1: But you know, you have to also ask yourself, where 107 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: is Philip Rivers in this playbook and understanding what Shane 108 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: Styke and wants to run and be about, and then 109 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: insert name guy here. He's never played with Michael Pittman Junior, 110 00:05:19,440 --> 00:05:22,479 Speaker 1: or Alec Pierce or Josh Downs or Tyler Warren and 111 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 1: he's probably never interpreted this Shane Styke in offense as well. So, right, 112 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,159 Speaker 1: that's what I'm saying, Like when you tip the scales, 113 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 1: it's Philip Rivers because at least mentally for the most part, 114 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: you don't have to get him up to speak. 115 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:35,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, No, Phil's going to be able to come in 116 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 3: here and communicate the offense. Right. 117 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,320 Speaker 2: The offense hasn't changed, you, Right, It was the same 118 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 2: with Frank Reich. You know, the same terminology. At least, 119 00:05:44,080 --> 00:05:46,560 Speaker 2: you know, I could go in there right now and yeah, 120 00:05:46,600 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 2: I would know what to do on most plays. Maybe 121 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: there's a few things here and there, some checks that 122 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: are a little different that maybe Daniel had in his past, 123 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 2: and you know, you kind of cater to the quarterback. Yeah, 124 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:57,479 Speaker 2: but Phil is going to be able to go in 125 00:05:57,520 --> 00:05:59,839 Speaker 2: there and communicate with all the guys you know. Obviously, 126 00:05:59,839 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 2: he played with Pitt, played with mo played with Nelson, Nelson, 127 00:06:04,279 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 2: played with Jonathan Taylor, played with a lot of guys. 128 00:06:06,880 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 2: And Phil is so sharp and has such a unique 129 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 2: way in the way he communicates with everybody and and 130 00:06:13,640 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 2: just making it simple not only on himself but for 131 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 2: the player. So he's very unique in that way, in 132 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 2: the way he can get his point across. So I 133 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 2: don't yeah, like you said, and the communication point and 134 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 2: having a guy you can trust to get the get 135 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: you in the right play. 136 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:30,479 Speaker 3: There's not a better option out there than Philip Rivers. 137 00:06:30,520 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, And these two guys know each other very well. 138 00:06:32,440 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 1: Two guys being Shane Stikeen and Philip Rivers. They were 139 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:38,919 Speaker 1: together for what six years with their Chargers when Shane 140 00:06:39,040 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 1: was the quarterbacks coach for a couple of years offensive 141 00:06:41,920 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: coordinator there together with the Chargers between San Diego and 142 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,200 Speaker 1: LA when the move happened. How much do you think, 143 00:06:48,240 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure they still talk to In fact, 144 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: I know they still talk, right, I'm sure Shane throughout 145 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: course of time of this regular season is sending clips 146 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: down to Fair Hope, Alabama to Philip Rivers and saying, hey, 147 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: this week, we're playing the Broncos. Here's their front, here's 148 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 1: their personnel, here's the plays we like, what do you think? 149 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:07,800 Speaker 1: Like like almost like a consultant. 150 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, if you will, you know what I mean, I 151 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,280 Speaker 2: guarantee they're talking checks and and I guarantee they've been 152 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:13,400 Speaker 2: talking over these past few weeks when you know, maybe 153 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,760 Speaker 2: we struggled a little bit versus the the cover zeros 154 00:07:15,800 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: and yeah, and and talking, you know, talking with Phil 155 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 2: and you know, I know Phil's running the same offense 156 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 2: down there and fair hope with with this Saint Michael's 157 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: high school team, like the same terminology. I remember I was, 158 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 2: I was hanging out with Jacoby. 159 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: Uh. 160 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 2: This is a couple of years ago, and we FaceTime 161 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,080 Speaker 2: Phil and he was kind of going through the offense right, 162 00:07:33,160 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: going through installing his high school offense, and he's like, 163 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:37,559 Speaker 2: all right, Jack, here's the play. 164 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: What do you got like? 165 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 2: You know? And it was and I could run each 166 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 2: play right, It was the same stuff. So you know, 167 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:45,840 Speaker 2: Phil stayed involved with this terminology. Even though it's been 168 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 2: five years since he's gotten an NFL huddle and called 169 00:07:48,840 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 2: a play, He's been calling it to his son or 170 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 2: calling it to his high school team and using all 171 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 2: the same terminology. 172 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 1: How how much are you still keeping in touch with 173 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 1: with Philip? 174 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I haven't talked to him. 175 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 2: While I talked to him, uh you know when the 176 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,480 Speaker 2: news came out and gave him a you know, ye 177 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 2: got your back, let's go get it man, and he 178 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 2: gave a funny Philip response which was great, which I'll 179 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 2: keep between us. But he's just he's just the man, 180 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 2: you know, he's just he's just a football guy. And 181 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: if there's anyone that can do this, man, I was 182 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 2: thinking back of like players I played with, and like 183 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 2: who could do this? 184 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: Who could come back after being at me? 185 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: Yeah? 186 00:08:24,440 --> 00:08:26,160 Speaker 2: I mean, and the two people that came to mind 187 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,960 Speaker 2: were Frank Gore and Philip Rivers, Like that's it, that's it, Frank, 188 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:32,240 Speaker 2: this is it. These are guys that are just all 189 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 2: about football and just you know, can't can you know, 190 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 2: come in and make a difference in whenever they want to? Really? 191 00:08:39,760 --> 00:08:42,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, well it's been about five years since he last played, 192 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 1: all right, so again, excuse me if he if he 193 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:47,120 Speaker 1: goes out there and starts on Sunday, which again, as 194 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: we're sitting here talking right now, we're a long way 195 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,839 Speaker 1: from definitively knowing that. But hypothetically, if he's out there 196 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: against the Seahawks, it's gonna mark eighteen hundred days since 197 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 1: he last played a game in the NFL. That would 198 00:08:59,360 --> 00:09:03,440 Speaker 1: be the third most days between starts among quarterbacks who 199 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: did not play between them. That is, according to the 200 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: Elias Sports Bureau, he last played January ninth, twenty twenty one, 201 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: which is the twenty twenty season. That's a playoff game 202 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: that year. You know about the game, unfortunately, a loss 203 00:09:17,720 --> 00:09:20,320 Speaker 1: in the playoffs of the Buffalo Bills twenty seven to 204 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:23,079 Speaker 1: twenty four, a game in which the Colts absolutely should 205 00:09:23,080 --> 00:09:26,200 Speaker 1: have won. But I digress. But again, that is a 206 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:29,520 Speaker 1: long time for anybody. I don't care if you're I mean, shoot, 207 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: I'm forty years old and he's in much better shape 208 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,520 Speaker 1: than I am, and he's four years older than me, 209 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: Jack Doyle, So tell me how much do you think 210 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: conditioning is going to matter for Philip Rivers. I know 211 00:09:40,160 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: he's playing quarterback and he's not running one hundred yards 212 00:09:43,520 --> 00:09:45,880 Speaker 1: goal line to goal line every play, right, but he 213 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 1: still has to be out there and take hits and 214 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 1: run around and navigate the pocket and things like that. 215 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:52,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, conditioning. 216 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 2: You know, I'm sure Phil has stayed in shape, and 217 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,920 Speaker 2: I know he's you know, working out lifting weights. I 218 00:09:57,920 --> 00:09:59,439 Speaker 2: know he was always kind of into that even when 219 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 2: he was playing, and probably feels honestly, like waking up 220 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: in the morning, he probably feels better than he did 221 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,559 Speaker 2: in yeah, January, whatever that was, after that Buffalo game. 222 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 2: But the thing you do worry about is the conditioning. 223 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 2: And not only the conditioning. You know, you can go 224 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 2: run on a treadmill all you want, but football shape 225 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: is just different. And when you got to go in 226 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,079 Speaker 2: there and you go into a hostile environment and you're 227 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,640 Speaker 2: adrenaline starts going, and then you got to get in 228 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:25,960 Speaker 2: that huddle and call play and then you know, do 229 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,359 Speaker 2: it again, do it again, and do it again. Yeah, 230 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 2: you know that's the concern, right and and when you're 231 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 2: out that long. But again, if there's anybody can figure 232 00:10:34,480 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 2: it out, it's this guy right here. I mean, he's 233 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 2: just got something to him that's just different from anyone 234 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: I've been around. 235 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 1: I mean, again, you sit here, you look at the possibility, 236 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: the idea of him looking over a Seattle defense who 237 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,079 Speaker 1: is number two in scoring seventeen points per game, havn't 238 00:10:53,120 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: given up a touchdown in the last two games, and 239 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:58,040 Speaker 1: Philip rivers looking over, you know, peering over the line 240 00:10:58,080 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: of scrimmage. I mean it's not I guarantee he's gonna 241 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: look at that defense and say, I know exactly what 242 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,680 Speaker 1: you guys are running. You know what you're in, I 243 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:07,560 Speaker 1: know what you're doing here. 244 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:10,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, he will. He'll know if the he'll know if 245 00:11:10,200 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 2: the back he'll know if the backers are misaligned. And 246 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:14,679 Speaker 2: you know Mike McDonald's gonna yell to him in the 247 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,480 Speaker 2: meeting the next day. That's just his brain is just yeah, 248 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 2: he is. I mean, that's what he did when I 249 00:11:20,360 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 2: was playing with him. He's just so unique the way 250 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: his brain works. I remember, you know, we'd be sitting 251 00:11:24,800 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 2: in meetings in that twenty season and you know, preparing 252 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 2: for whoever, say we're preparing for the Steelers that season, 253 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:34,280 Speaker 2: and you know, Phil would see a pressure that the 254 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:36,520 Speaker 2: Steelers brought, you know, a SaaS pressure. They you know, 255 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 2: they're known for that, and that's Sam Strong safety and 256 00:11:39,600 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 2: Phil will be like, Hey, talking to Nick Sirianni, who 257 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: was offen scored at the time. Hey, you know I remember, 258 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 2: remember we did this back in it was fifteen with 259 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: the Chargers. I think it was the second drive of 260 00:11:50,200 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 2: the third quarter, and we you know, we ran a cutter, 261 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 2: you know, we ran a sale concept to beat it. 262 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:56,960 Speaker 2: Pull that up, show that to the guys. That's what 263 00:11:57,000 --> 00:11:58,480 Speaker 2: I want to get to if if you know, when 264 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: I see this pressure. 265 00:11:59,600 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 3: Lu't be hold there it is. 266 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 2: We watch it him hit gates on an out route 267 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 2: and we run it in the game that Sunday. I mean, 268 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 2: that's just this guy's just and that was you know, 269 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 2: six years ago that he's remembering play. So he's just 270 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:13,600 Speaker 2: the way his brain is just wired is different, man, 271 00:12:13,679 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 2: And it's gonna be quite a show to watch him, 272 00:12:17,360 --> 00:12:19,079 Speaker 2: you know, if this is the way it goes, and 273 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 2: going to Seattle and try and go win a football game. 274 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: And you know who else is exactly like that. 275 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:26,199 Speaker 3: Shange shane'sykeing. 276 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:26,560 Speaker 1: Yeah. 277 00:12:26,800 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 2: And they can communicate that way, oh, because they can 278 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: be like they don't have to break down where everybody was. 279 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,200 Speaker 2: They'll be like, hey, you remember that pressure we got 280 00:12:35,280 --> 00:12:38,280 Speaker 2: in twenty sixteen against blah blah blah. 281 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's. 282 00:12:39,440 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 3: What we want to do. 283 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 2: And then they're done talking about it and they move 284 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,000 Speaker 2: on to the next play, and it's just like and 285 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 2: everyone else is staying to share the same Yeah, everyone's 286 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: standing around like what did they just say? Like and 287 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 2: they're like, don't worry about what will in stot later. 288 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 1: We used to do this. I mean, now it's not 289 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 1: funny anymore because Shane's been here a long time and 290 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: so like he's proven himself over and over in that regard. 291 00:12:57,840 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 1: But when he first started here, like the first year 292 00:12:59,640 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 1: on the he'd come back and we would just like 293 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: have fun with him and bs with him, and we'd say, 294 00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,640 Speaker 1: all right, it's we go back to college. Yeah, okay, 295 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: it's you an l U and l V versus whoever. 296 00:13:09,120 --> 00:13:11,360 Speaker 1: You know your junior year, right, you got the ball 297 00:13:11,360 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: at the six yard line going in, it's the goal line. 298 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: What do you run? He's like, yeah, you know, we 299 00:13:15,080 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: put the we put the back off set and you 300 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 1: know we'd run the roll out, play out. I mean 301 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: it's like, dude, you're like a beautiful mind. I mean, 302 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:21,640 Speaker 1: you guys do this. 303 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 2: It doesn't make sense. I mean, I think I got 304 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 2: a pretty I think I got a pretty good memory. 305 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,280 Speaker 2: But these I mean, these guys are different in the 306 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 2: way they can just like, yeah, and tell you where 307 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 2: exactly every person on the field was. Yeah, maybe I 308 00:13:33,760 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 2: can remember what like I was doing. They can tell 309 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: you where the everyone on the offense was. They can 310 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,000 Speaker 2: tell you where everyone Yeah, they can tell you where 311 00:13:40,040 --> 00:13:42,440 Speaker 2: all the defense was. You know what personnel group they 312 00:13:42,440 --> 00:13:44,680 Speaker 2: were in. Yeah, you know who was down that week? 313 00:13:44,760 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 2: Why they called that play like it just crazy stuff. 314 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,080 Speaker 2: And again they're like they're like one brain. So the 315 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,680 Speaker 2: communication point between you know, player coach, I mean, it 316 00:13:53,720 --> 00:13:55,480 Speaker 2: doesn't get any better than what we have right now. 317 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:59,760 Speaker 1: It's like master control. It's it's it's amazing. But the 318 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: eye in all of this with the Colts trying to 319 00:14:02,080 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: make a playoff push, you know, salvage the season, right, 320 00:14:05,200 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: great start seven and one and now a major speed 321 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:10,640 Speaker 1: bump here losing four or five and three in a row. 322 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:13,960 Speaker 1: But Rivers is the last quarterback to lead the Colts 323 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,520 Speaker 1: to the playoffs that year. In twenty twenty, through for 324 00:14:16,600 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 1: over forty one hundred yards twenty four touchdowns, he completed 325 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 1: sixty eight percent of his passes, had a ninety seven 326 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: passer rating. You just kind of mentioned a handful of 327 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: you know, anecdotes and details. Is there anything else? I 328 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 1: guess I'm asking big picture, what do you remember about 329 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: that twenty twenty season. Obviously the world was on fire 330 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:40,440 Speaker 1: with COVID and there was so much going on outside 331 00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:42,800 Speaker 1: of football. But you guys, no pun intended, were kind 332 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:44,760 Speaker 1: of in your own little bubble. Yeah, you know, So 333 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 1: what do you remember most about, you know, being a 334 00:14:48,080 --> 00:14:50,200 Speaker 1: tight end and a key part of the offense with 335 00:14:50,240 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: a guy like Philip Rivers, a future Hall of Famer 336 00:14:52,800 --> 00:14:53,520 Speaker 1: as your quarterback. 337 00:14:53,600 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, it's funny. I feel like, because that 338 00:14:56,000 --> 00:14:58,560 Speaker 2: was such a unique year, I remember a lot about it. 339 00:14:59,360 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 3: You know. 340 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,760 Speaker 2: I remember the first time meeting Phil and we went 341 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 2: over to you know, everything was shut down. We couldn't 342 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 2: come to the facility, so we went over to Cathedral 343 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 2: High School and and Ransom Routes and uh and funny 344 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 2: story about that. I remember we went over there with. 345 00:15:13,520 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: Did you ask for the keys? How you got it? 346 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah? No, you know you can just I did sneak 347 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 2: on there one time and got kicked off, and I 348 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: was just like. 349 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: What, you know, who I am? 350 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 3: No I did I went to drop that. I didn't 351 00:15:23,440 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 3: drop that. 352 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 2: But they they were they not to say they appolled, 353 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 2: but they were like, no, you're okay, you can you 354 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:28,880 Speaker 2: go there. 355 00:15:28,920 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: Coach People's helped. 356 00:15:29,680 --> 00:15:32,560 Speaker 2: Me out, but I got a closer look at the Yeah, 357 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 2: Jack do. But no, we went over there with Phil. 358 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:37,560 Speaker 2: I think it was Philip Rivers. I think Zach Pascal 359 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: was there. He was in town. Then Paris Campbell, I 360 00:15:40,840 --> 00:15:44,040 Speaker 2: want to say Nahim's and Naheim Heinz and I think 361 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,120 Speaker 2: it was like the second time we ever threw together. 362 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 2: And we probably threw He probably threw one hundred and 363 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 2: twenty five balls. We each ran twenty to twenty five 364 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 2: routes and we were done, and Phil was like, oh, yeah, 365 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 2: that was good. 366 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:56,720 Speaker 3: We didn't have a ball. 367 00:15:56,600 --> 00:15:58,840 Speaker 2: On the ground, and it's like, this is the second 368 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 2: time this guy's ever thrown to us. He just has 369 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 2: such a unique ability to understand each individual guy's body movement, 370 00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 2: which is so rare. That's not I've never been around 371 00:16:09,280 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 2: anyone that could really do that and just understanding how 372 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: guys move and be able to adjust how he throws 373 00:16:15,160 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: the ball to each individual guy. But there's a lot 374 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: of fun memories from that year, and you know, thinking 375 00:16:19,840 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 2: of the way he would check plays. I feel like 376 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: late in the year, a lot of my catches, you know, 377 00:16:24,360 --> 00:16:27,000 Speaker 2: in that Buffalo game. And there's some catches late in 378 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: the year where he was checking out of pressures and 379 00:16:29,040 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 2: able to and that was the way I was getting 380 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 2: the ball and put us in, putting us in good plays. 381 00:16:33,240 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 2: So again, it just his ability to be a coach 382 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: on the field is just something that you can't you 383 00:16:39,320 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 2: can't replicate with with with many other guys in this league. 384 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: You know, no balls from the ground and seven on. 385 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,160 Speaker 1: It's like may like it was, But I mean, how 386 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 1: rare is that to not have a ball hit the 387 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: ground with the even with a guy like Andrew Luck 388 00:16:52,440 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: you know, yeah, Andrew, I mean Andrew thousand times? 389 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:56,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, Andrew, we could you know. That was after I've 390 00:16:56,880 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: been with him for four or five years. But again, 391 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 2: the most impressive part he's never thrown to any four 392 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,880 Speaker 2: of us, like he thrown to what's once? I think 393 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,960 Speaker 2: before that and then and then we would we go 394 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 2: out there and don't have a ball on the ground. Yeah, 395 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,320 Speaker 2: And think about Phil too, is like he understands like 396 00:17:12,359 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: he's just such a good teammate too, man, Like I 397 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 2: go into you know this, so this is what I'm 398 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 2: thinking about Philip Rivers. I go in there in twenty twenty. 399 00:17:19,320 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 2: I grew up a Colts fan, Right, I didn't like 400 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: Philip Rivers growing up. Right, he had beaten the Colts 401 00:17:24,200 --> 00:17:25,400 Speaker 2: in the playoffs multiple times. 402 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:26,440 Speaker 1: I got a little twirp out. 403 00:17:26,640 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I always talking trash and all that stuff. And 404 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: then I get to meet him. I'm just like, man, 405 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 2: this guy's a great teammate. He cares about getting to 406 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:36,400 Speaker 2: know everyone on the team. I remember we go out 407 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: there and he's like, Hey, let's just play catch for 408 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 2: a while. I want you guys to see how he 409 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 2: understood that his arm angle was kind of weird, right, 410 00:17:42,880 --> 00:17:44,400 Speaker 2: He's like, I just want to see you guys catch 411 00:17:44,400 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 2: it coming out of my hand and like I do 412 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:49,240 Speaker 2: it sometimes, yeah, doing like not too big for anybody. 413 00:17:49,280 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 2: You know, this is a guy probably on his way 414 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 2: to the Hall of Fame, and but just wanted to 415 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 2: be one of the guys, right, just want to be, 416 00:17:55,160 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 2: you know, a member of a team. And you know, 417 00:17:58,119 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 2: no one cares more than Phil. I mean, hearing him 418 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,400 Speaker 2: talk to the team that year and when he'd give speeches, 419 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 2: I mean, it's just it's just different. 420 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 3: Man. 421 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,760 Speaker 2: He's just he's just so unique and and again a 422 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: guy I have so much. 423 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: Respect for have you I'm a movie guy. Have you 424 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: ever seen Forgetting Sarah Marshall? Yeah, Jason Siegel. Right, it's 425 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 1: like that scene where like the the the British pop star, 426 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:20,760 Speaker 1: Like they're in the water and he's like, you know, 427 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: telling him all about his his career ambitions, even though 428 00:18:24,000 --> 00:18:27,680 Speaker 1: he's like with his ex girlfriend. God, you're cool. 429 00:18:30,080 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 2: I wanted to not like I feel like and what 430 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 2: I what I compare it to and thinking of Phil 431 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 2: is like I'm sure a lot of people felt that, 432 00:18:37,400 --> 00:18:41,359 Speaker 2: like about Reggie Miller, right, like this guy talking trash. 433 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 3: I'm like this how people felt about Reggie Miller if 434 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:44,400 Speaker 3: he's on your team. 435 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:47,479 Speaker 2: When he's on your team, he's like, man, this this 436 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 2: guy is the man, like in every sense of the word. 437 00:18:50,680 --> 00:18:53,679 Speaker 2: Like they're just so and just you know, it's just 438 00:18:53,960 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 2: it stinks that we only got you know that I 439 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:57,679 Speaker 2: you know, personally from my perspective that I only got 440 00:18:57,720 --> 00:18:59,520 Speaker 2: one year with him because I just had so much 441 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:02,400 Speaker 2: fun playing with him and just being around him. 442 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:04,400 Speaker 3: And it's kind of a shame too. 443 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,520 Speaker 2: And and hopefully the Colts fans get a little piece 444 00:19:07,520 --> 00:19:11,240 Speaker 2: of Phill now because it was that COVID year and 445 00:19:11,240 --> 00:19:13,399 Speaker 2: and it was you know, not a lot of people 446 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 2: around and things like that, just didn't get to know 447 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 2: his personality, but he just and he's a great person 448 00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:23,640 Speaker 2: obviously obviously a huge family man. And yeah, so I'm 449 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: excited to see where how this goes again. Yeah, way 450 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:30,359 Speaker 2: way down the road. Yeah, I know we're getting excited. 451 00:19:30,000 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 1: To like I feel like the weekend is like this, 452 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,440 Speaker 1: you know, thing that's never going to get here with 453 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:37,159 Speaker 1: the uncertainty that we have right now. But I do 454 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 1: have to ask you, okay, you know, put your put 455 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: put the shoes of Riley Leonard on for a second. Okay, 456 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:48,400 Speaker 1: six round pick, dying to being on the field, banged up, 457 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,240 Speaker 1: don't know if he can play. That's why Philip Rivers 458 00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: is here. That's why another quarterback was signed. Jack Doyle, 459 00:19:54,440 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 1: the Colts fan, you know you're looking at this from 460 00:19:57,560 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: the blimp, you know, thirty thousand feet up. What is 461 00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,240 Speaker 1: the best option for the Colts? All right, give it 462 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,919 Speaker 1: to me straight, Well, in reality here, what is the 463 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:08,080 Speaker 1: best option for the Colts on Sunday? A banged up, 464 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: limited rookie quarterback who would be making his first NFL start, 465 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,520 Speaker 1: or a forty four year old of Philip Rivers who 466 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 1: hasn't played in five years, who hasn't played in eighteen 467 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: hundred days. What's the best option for the Colts to 468 00:20:24,160 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: try and win a game, a marquee game against one 469 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,680 Speaker 1: of the best teams on the road in a pivotal 470 00:20:29,720 --> 00:20:32,800 Speaker 1: gotta have a game against or in a place that's 471 00:20:32,800 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: incredibly hard to win and play in. 472 00:20:34,520 --> 00:20:36,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, that's gonna be the hard part for 473 00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 2: the coaching staff, and you know, and and you know, 474 00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,440 Speaker 2: the front office and trying to figure all this out 475 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 2: and and yeah. 476 00:20:43,080 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 3: How how you know if Riley can go? Right? 477 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 2: Obviously, if Riley can go and you know he's only 478 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,159 Speaker 2: somewhat limited or you know, whatever you want to call it, 479 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 2: but you know, Riley's probably best strength is his leg, 480 00:20:54,280 --> 00:20:56,199 Speaker 2: so he's got to be able to move around to 481 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: be able to give you, you know, what you need 482 00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:00,400 Speaker 2: out there. So that's going to be the delay, right, 483 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,320 Speaker 2: and coming up and trying to figure out how much 484 00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,679 Speaker 2: Riley can give you because yeah, right, you know, a 485 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 2: healthy Riley, this guy's been through training camp and with 486 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 2: the team the whole year. That's going to give you 487 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 2: the better chance in theory, right, and then then signing 488 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,720 Speaker 2: somebody that hasn't played football in one hundred what was it, 489 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:16,360 Speaker 2: one thosy and eight hundred days? You know, I mean 490 00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 2: that's that's reality. But so yeah, that's gonna be the 491 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 2: dilemma and trying to figure out, you know, where Riley's 492 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: health is at and you know, if he if he's 493 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: too limited, then you go with Phil. You know, I 494 00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 2: don't know. It makes you think of the game when 495 00:21:31,040 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 2: we played in twenty fifteen, when we went with Ryan 496 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 2: Linley and Josh Freeman and kind of did the two 497 00:21:36,240 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 2: quarterbacks and one guy did you know the two I 498 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 2: think it was Linley did the two minute drill and 499 00:21:41,400 --> 00:21:43,840 Speaker 2: then yeah, and then Josh Freeman ran like the bass 500 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 2: plays and we went and got a win. You know. 501 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 2: But you know one thing that that game did to 502 00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:49,959 Speaker 2: did do you know? We were kind of down and 503 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 2: out and it brought energy to the locker room right 504 00:21:52,359 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 2: that practice week. We had a great week of practice 505 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 2: and and it kind of you know, rejuvenated us when 506 00:21:57,560 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 2: we were kind of feeling sorry for ourselves and and 507 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: got us all going to to be on you know, 508 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,200 Speaker 2: beyond the details, and we went out there and got 509 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:04,520 Speaker 2: to win. 510 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 1: How did you think Riley Leonard played last week when 511 00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 1: he was thrust into the game. 512 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think Riley did a great job. I mean, honestly, 513 00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:13,560 Speaker 2: I think he was solid. You know, he got thrown 514 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 2: into a tough situation. You know, the team's all feeling 515 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 2: you know, feeling sorry for Daniel, and you know that's 516 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 2: just what it was, right You're you're feeling down when 517 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 2: you lose your starting quarterback, and every everyone kind of 518 00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 2: could assume what was going on. 519 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 3: But he came in there and. 520 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 2: Competed right and came in and made a play, you know, 521 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: the the you know, scrambling around making the little jump 522 00:22:34,640 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 2: pass to Piers that was huge and I think that 523 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,600 Speaker 2: kind of hopefully calmed his nerves down a little bit. 524 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,040 Speaker 3: And then he just showed that he's just a football player. 525 00:22:41,080 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: Man. This this guy knows how to compete. I know 526 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,440 Speaker 2: a lot of Colts fans are you know, probably followed 527 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,560 Speaker 2: Notre Dame and saw him playing in his college career 528 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:50,520 Speaker 2: and there are you know that that last year. But 529 00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:53,199 Speaker 2: just just a guy that competes. And you know, I 530 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:55,919 Speaker 2: thought he delivered some accurate balls through some good go routes. 531 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,399 Speaker 2: I think the go route to Pierce was on the money. 532 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 2: Pierce almost made a miraculous catch right, which probably still 533 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,520 Speaker 2: could have been a catch. And then you know the 534 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: goat in the little back shoulder to Pittman. That was 535 00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 2: a great ball, right, and a bad call on pitt 536 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:10,760 Speaker 2: there on the OPI. But you know, I thought he 537 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 2: did some really nice things all right. 538 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:17,240 Speaker 1: Just to cover our basis here again with this being Thursday, 539 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:21,160 Speaker 1: with this podcast coming out, uncertainty a quarterback. To cover 540 00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: our basis here. If Riley Leonard is the quarterback on 541 00:23:23,920 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: Sunday for the Colts, what does it look like? How 542 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: do the Colts play to his strengths and go out 543 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,439 Speaker 1: there and put a viable game plan together knowing he 544 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: might be a little bit limited and compromise with that 545 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 1: knee injury. 546 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's trying to figure out what he can do, 547 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 2: right and speaking from the injury, because obviously one of 548 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 2: his strengths is being able to move around back there 549 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 2: and making place with his legs. So you know, if 550 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:48,560 Speaker 2: he's feeling pretty good, and you know, I think he 551 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,200 Speaker 2: uses legs to kind of untap you know, Jonathan Taylor 552 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,680 Speaker 2: in the run game and making him a viable threat 553 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:56,640 Speaker 2: in the run game is going to kind of take 554 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 2: another guy out of the box and create more openings 555 00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:03,160 Speaker 2: for Jonathan Taylor and just and just keeping it kind 556 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 2: of simple for him. Right maybe it's a little up 557 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 2: tempo stuff and maybe that takes the crowd out of it, 558 00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 2: and and then Shane can be in his ear a 559 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 2: little longer and making sure they're getting in the right play. 560 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,959 Speaker 2: So I think, you know, and honestly, it'll be kind 561 00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:19,600 Speaker 2: of fun for this coaching staff to draw up a 562 00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 2: you know, a different game plan that the Seattle is 563 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 2: not going to be ready for. Right right now, Seattle's 564 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 2: probably watching twenty nineteen Chargers film trying to get ready 565 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,440 Speaker 2: and then here comes Riley Leonard and we're running zone 566 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 2: read some zone reads and quarterback powers on you know, 567 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 2: third and short, you know, things like that. So two 568 00:24:36,600 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 2: very different guys. So so you know, you know, at 569 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 2: least it's you know, making a Mike McDonald and his 570 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:43,919 Speaker 2: staff sweat a little bit. 571 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: For sure. There's some games been shipped here for the Colts, 572 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,320 Speaker 1: you know, believe it or not, they do have from 573 00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:51,439 Speaker 1: a prep standpoint, putting pressure on the Chargers or the 574 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,159 Speaker 1: the Seahawks in this case, they do have, you know, 575 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: some things that they have to spend some extra time 576 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:59,880 Speaker 1: on because of the uncertainty of this whole unique situation. 577 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,120 Speaker 1: One final thing on Philip Rivers before we close out 578 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,479 Speaker 1: and turn the page and close the book. Here he 579 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: is one of twenty six Modern Day era finalists for 580 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: the Class of twenty twenty six. When it comes to 581 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Okay, but here's the deal. According 582 00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 1: to the Pro Football Hall of Fame bylaws, a player 583 00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: must be out of the NFL for five years before 584 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,479 Speaker 1: being eligible to go into Canton. So if a player 585 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 1: signs with the team Rivers in this case, with the Colts, 586 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: and he's on the active roster, which as of right 587 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:35,159 Speaker 1: now Philip Rivers is not. He's on the practice squad, 588 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,200 Speaker 1: not the active roster. But if he makes the active roster, 589 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: the clock resets on the Hall of Fame and Philip 590 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:45,840 Speaker 1: Rivers has to wait another five years for consideration. And 591 00:25:47,320 --> 00:25:49,439 Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of layers and components to this. 592 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:54,159 Speaker 1: I mean, every guy that straps on the helmet and 593 00:25:54,240 --> 00:25:57,840 Speaker 1: puts on the pads one day, whether it's viable or not, 594 00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: wants to go to the Hall of Fame and be 595 00:26:01,280 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 1: enshrined and be a legend and be remembered forever and 596 00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: be the one percent of the one percent of the 597 00:26:07,040 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: greatest players who ever played the game. I know it's 598 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 1: important to Philip Rivers, but you also know the type 599 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: of guy that he is, and you mentioned the kind 600 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,040 Speaker 1: of teammate that he is and just loving football and 601 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:22,080 Speaker 1: having the opportunity to come back help out a friend 602 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,919 Speaker 1: and a team in need, but having the chance to 603 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: just go out there and play the game that he loves. 604 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:32,040 Speaker 1: How do you think he's balancing the future and immortality 605 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 1: versus the here and the now and just wanting to 606 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:36,960 Speaker 1: go out there and be the quarterback that he's always just, 607 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: bottom line, wanted to be. 608 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, you know again, like you said, Matt, you know, 609 00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,160 Speaker 2: Philip is a you know, an NFL historian too, right, 610 00:26:45,160 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 2: He gets all that, you know, and he knows how 611 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:49,280 Speaker 2: you know, what a huge honor that would be. And 612 00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: and but at the same time, this guy just loves 613 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: football more, right, And I think that's kind of the 614 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 2: the balancing act. You know, maybe he played in his 615 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 2: mind for a quick seconds like, yeah, I'd rather take 616 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 2: go take a chance to go play some more football 617 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,480 Speaker 2: because you know, I'll never get that back in you know, 618 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,639 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame or whatever can wait, right, and and 619 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 2: what a tough you know, delimit to kind of you know, 620 00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:15,480 Speaker 2: play within your brain. But he but yeah, like like 621 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:17,320 Speaker 2: like I've kind of mentioned here, this guy's just so 622 00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 2: unique and and and how much he loves football. I 623 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:21,959 Speaker 2: keep coming back, you know, I keep thinking that if 624 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: there's any Ted Lasso fans out there, and thinking of 625 00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:27,600 Speaker 2: Danny Rojas running around on the field saying. 626 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:30,520 Speaker 3: Football is life. Football is life. Like that's Philip. 627 00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,879 Speaker 2: Rivers, right, That's how he carries himself. He's you talk 628 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 2: to him, it's about football or his family, right, I mean, 629 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 2: that's that's what this guy's about. That's what he was 630 00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 2: raised on. I know his dad was a coach, so 631 00:27:40,560 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 2: you know, football is life for Philip. And uh so 632 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 2: he you know, getting the chance to to maybe play again. 633 00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,199 Speaker 2: You know that that that outweighs all the all the 634 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 2: awards and all that stuff can wait. 635 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,200 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm blown away by this because again 636 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,320 Speaker 1: for those that don't know, I mean there's a lot 637 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: of politicking that goes on when it comes to making 638 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,639 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. Now with the different voting system 639 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,879 Speaker 1: and the for rules on who gets in, the amount 640 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: of guys that can get in. We don't know, need 641 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: to go in full detail and all of that, but 642 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's also who you're up against, right 643 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: the other guys are also eligible at the same time 644 00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,640 Speaker 1: you are. He's gonna be kicking the can down the road, 645 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: and you never know, you know how that's going to 646 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: play out based on the guys that are going to 647 00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 1: be eligible for the first time five years after this year. Hypothetically, Yeah, guy. 648 00:28:24,119 --> 00:28:26,720 Speaker 2: The guys that are retiring this year, he's gonna you know, 649 00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 2: reset you know, that's weird, maybe like a Matthew Stafford 650 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 2: or something. Yeah, just throwing it out here. Yeah, it's 651 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 2: weird to think about. But yeah, again, I think Phil 652 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:38,719 Speaker 2: you know, obviously he understands the honor and all that 653 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:40,400 Speaker 2: and and and it means a lot to him, it 654 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 2: really does. 655 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 3: You know. 656 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,080 Speaker 2: He he may not say it out you know outright, 657 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, and and and he you know, he's 658 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,000 Speaker 2: always a good teammate, but who doesn't you know. That's 659 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:51,240 Speaker 2: like you said, man, that's that's what we all, you know, 660 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,600 Speaker 2: kind of play for. And then like you want to 661 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: be remembered, You want to be you know, you know, 662 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 2: given the respect that you that you kind of earned 663 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 2: from the way you played and the way you carried 664 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 2: yourself on and off the field, and that's what the 665 00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 2: Hall of Fame is so so yeah. 666 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 3: But this guy's you. 667 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: Know, football's life for mister Rivers and uh, he just 668 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 2: wants to play st River. 669 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 3: He wants to play some ball. 670 00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:12,640 Speaker 1: He is definitely mister Rivers. He's also Coach Rivers. 671 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:13,200 Speaker 3: Coach Rivers. 672 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,479 Speaker 1: You think that's what they call him in Hideo Punt Intended, 673 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,680 Speaker 1: who he wears a lot of hats. He's Coach Rivers. 674 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:21,400 Speaker 1: He's mister Rivers. He's Philip Rivers, He's dad. He's also 675 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: a grandfather. 676 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 2: Grandfather, Yes, yeah, correct, And it's amazing. I remember talking 677 00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 2: to Philip uh speaking back on that twenty season and 678 00:29:30,800 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 2: he was I was, you know, we're it was training 679 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,719 Speaker 2: camp and we were talking about you know what, hey, 680 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:36,360 Speaker 2: what are you gonna do on your off day? And 681 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 2: he was taking he was taking his daughter to college. 682 00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 2: Like that's what he was doing on the off day. 683 00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 2: He's like driving I think it was somewhere in Kansas 684 00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 2: at a Catholic university. 685 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 1: Fat and beyond getting all the goodies, right, I. 686 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 2: Was like, you're driving your daughter to college, Like, yeah, 687 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,560 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be on the couch, you know, you know, snuggling. 688 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 2: I think we had, you know, two young kids at 689 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 2: that point, but I'm like, that's just we're at such 690 00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: different points in our life. 691 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:01,400 Speaker 3: Man. 692 00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,040 Speaker 2: He's just he's just again, just someone I have so 693 00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 2: much respect for, and the way he carries himself is 694 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 2: just something you know, you want, you know, your kids 695 00:30:09,200 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: to emulate. 696 00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a grandfather. I think I did some research 697 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,520 Speaker 1: on this and it's very unofficial, but the only other 698 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: player that I could find that was a grandfather while 699 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: still playing in the NFL was Brett Farv. 700 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:20,960 Speaker 3: Yeah. 701 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 1: All right, so maybe we'll continue to go down that 702 00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: rabbit hole the rest of the week based on how 703 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,640 Speaker 1: things regress here fascinating times with the Indianapolis Colts, and 704 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,240 Speaker 1: we'll see what's going on here the rest of the way. 705 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: All right, real quick, we always wrap up the show. 706 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:38,320 Speaker 1: What a fun little segment called you don't Know Jack. 707 00:30:38,360 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 1: We know Jack Doyle, the two time Pro Bowl player 708 00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: with the Indianapolis Colts, but let's get to know him 709 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 1: a little bit better off the field. Let's go quickly 710 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 1: on this Jack. Question. This week is for you to 711 00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: get to get to know you a little bit better 712 00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: from a personality standpoint. If you could travel back through time, 713 00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,800 Speaker 1: what era or what day would you go back in 714 00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 1: time and visit and redo? 715 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 2: It's a good one, Matt. You know, I think I've 716 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:03,480 Speaker 2: kind of made it clear. I'm I'm a pretty big 717 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: family guy. Yeah, So, honestly, what I would love to do. 718 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 2: So I never met my grandfather, my mom's dad on 719 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: my mom's side, never met my grandfather on my mom's side, 720 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 2: So I would just love and he you know, he 721 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 2: raised six girls, so he was the only man in 722 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 2: the house. Yeah, I would love to just sounds like 723 00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 2: a fascinating guy already. Yeah, oh yeah, I would love 724 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,880 Speaker 2: to just go He passed away before I was born, 725 00:31:31,920 --> 00:31:34,400 Speaker 2: So I would love to just go back in time 726 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:36,960 Speaker 2: and like us both be you know, I'm thirty five, 727 00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,440 Speaker 2: us both be thirty five years old. Love that sit 728 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 2: down in a bar and have a beer and just 729 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 2: pick his brain about life in general and how it's 730 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 2: going with the six girls and is he okay and 731 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:51,080 Speaker 2: all that stuff. But I would just love to pick 732 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 2: his brain on on just anything and everything. And you know, 733 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 2: he was a big Notre Dame football fan, so would 734 00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 2: be you know, fun for us to he'd be mad, 735 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,640 Speaker 2: now know, he'd be he would not you would not 736 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:03,560 Speaker 2: like he would not like that they're out. But no, 737 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 2: it'd be so fun. You know, my grandparents. I was 738 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:10,440 Speaker 2: lucky enough to know my my grandfather, my dad's dad, 739 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 2: and my grandma is still alive. She's listening, guaranteed, she's 740 00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 2: ninety years old. And then my mom's mom h known, 741 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,280 Speaker 2: he is what we called her, but she they're they're 742 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: just my heroes, man, They just they Yeah, they carried 743 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 2: this family. They set the tone for the way you're 744 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 2: supposed to carry yourself in this family and talking about 745 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:32,719 Speaker 2: hard work. These are blue collar workers and they're just 746 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 2: they're just the best. So you know, maybe that's a 747 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: little cliche. 748 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,120 Speaker 3: I don't know that. 749 00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, not going back and uh doing something crazy back 750 00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 2: in uh. 751 00:32:44,160 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: Play guitar with Jimmy Henry. 752 00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:46,400 Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, stuff like that. 753 00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess you know, go watch was it Wilt 754 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 2: Chamberlain's you know one hundred point gay? 755 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that'd be good. 756 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, that'd be good. 757 00:32:53,440 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: You know, you think of some sports stuff you could 758 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: go to, but yeah, for me, it's my grandparents. 759 00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm sure that without you even knowing it that he's 760 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: had a huge impact on you, right, not only like 761 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,600 Speaker 1: how you were, how are you raised, but maybe like 762 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:10,520 Speaker 1: indirectly some of your personality traits. 763 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny. So my mom always says this. So 764 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 2: there's a way that I eat right and you eat. 765 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 3: I eat. 766 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:20,040 Speaker 2: Yes, I love food. I think we've made that clear. 767 00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: But so when I eat, I kind of like, so 768 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,200 Speaker 2: say this, the microphone's my plate. I kind of like, 769 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,640 Speaker 2: you know, hover over a guard. I hover over my food. 770 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 2: And my thumb's always up for some reason. I don't 771 00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,520 Speaker 2: I think it naturally just does my thumb you know, 772 00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 2: this is when I put on the table, my thumb's 773 00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:38,960 Speaker 2: always up. 774 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: Fork right hand, Yeah, guarded thumbs up, scoop, yeah go. 775 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 2: And my mom says yeah. My mom said Grandpa Joe 776 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 2: did the same thing. No way, Yes, whenever he put 777 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: his hand on the table, his thumb was always poking up. 778 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 2: And I was just like, that's cool, like especially for me. 779 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:56,280 Speaker 2: She told me that when I was maybe like a teenager. Yeah, 780 00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:58,440 Speaker 2: and I remember it being like so cool to me 781 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 2: because I never met this man, right, and I've heard 782 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 2: so much about him, but like be able to carry 783 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,800 Speaker 2: one of his traits that that he did and he 784 00:34:04,840 --> 00:34:06,880 Speaker 2: don't even know. Yeah, and it's just like, man, that's 785 00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 2: that's that's so cool. So so yeah, you know, that's 786 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,719 Speaker 2: a that's a fun part of a family for sure. 787 00:34:12,760 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 1: Shout out to the Doyles, and shout out to Grandpaul. 788 00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 3: Joe, Grandpa Joe. Baby love it, Grandpa Joe. 789 00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 1: Great answer, love that stuff right there, Grandpaul Joe, Grandpaul Phil. 790 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,920 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens for the Indianapolis Colts big weekend. 791 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: For the latest again, check out Colts dot com uh 792 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,320 Speaker 1: the Colts Mobile app. We will have this whole story 793 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 1: in real time as it continues to progress and evolve. 794 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:38,960 Speaker 1: We'll see what happens for the Colts on Sunday. They 795 00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: need to win in a bad way. Eight and five Colts, 796 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: ten and three Seahawks in Seattle. Thanks so much for watching, 797 00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:48,399 Speaker 1: Thanks so much for listening. The great Jack Doyle. I'm 798 00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 1: Matt Taylor. We'll talk to you next week. You're on 799 00:34:51,400 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: the Colts podcast channel on the Jack Doyle Podcast. So long, everybody,