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Speaker 1: On Time on Target episode three hundred five. Navy Seal

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Speaker 1: I mean in Scotto, Jason Delgado with there anything going

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Speaker 1: I think if a female can pass and she can

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00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,600
Speaker 1: do everything that the guys can do, then why not.

426
00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:57,960
Speaker 1: But now, if what the guys can do, it's not

427
00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:02,200
Speaker 1: the guys Yeah, and that was just you know, one

428
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 1: of my thoughts that were theories that where it's probably

429
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:08,600
Speaker 1: headed towards. It's that they were embarrassed at their first

430
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: project or attempt to pass women through um, you know,

431
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 1: ranger school and stuff like what also exactly so you know,

432
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 1: my theory is that there are slowly deconstructing the standards

433
00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,159
Speaker 1: so that they can restart the project again and actually

434
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,639
Speaker 1: has some success success with it desensitizing the population to

435
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 1: that did take about like the idea of women think

436
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:33,440
Speaker 1: it's a terrible, terrible, terrible. I mean, don't get me wrong.

437
00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,160
Speaker 1: I think they should have the opportunity and if if

438
00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:39,600
Speaker 1: you have, if you have combat units that are strictly women,

439
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,360
Speaker 1: then great. If you have combat units that are strictly men,

440
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:46,600
Speaker 1: they're great. But anytime you put men and women together,

441
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:50,720
Speaker 1: there's there's gonna be that physical attraction. There's gonna be

442
00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,359
Speaker 1: a physical there's gonna be horrible, horrible love triangles, there's

443
00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: gonna be fights, there's gonna be suicide because there's gonna

444
00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 1: be those intimate relationships going on, and then they're going

445
00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 1: to get sick of each other and somebody's gonna start

446
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 1: having sex. With somebody else and then people are gonna

447
00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,800
Speaker 1: get killed. And we have several thousand years of programming

448
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,680
Speaker 1: where men protect women. It's not the popular thing to say.

449
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,760
Speaker 1: Is that a little bit sexist? Yes it is, But

450
00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:17,840
Speaker 1: to reality, the situation is you're not gonna any of

451
00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:20,320
Speaker 1: the individuals that I've ever been associated with. Somebody hits

452
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: a woman, that person is going to go down. We

453
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 1: had guys get in trouble in the Middle East because

454
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,479
Speaker 1: they saw Middle Eastern men hitting women and they reacted poorly.

455
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:34,560
Speaker 1: Are our guys reacted poorly to it? And Uh, that's

456
00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: just it's something that's in us, especially as Westerners, especially

457
00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 1: as right and I don't I said there, No, I'm

458
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,239
Speaker 1: with you, bro. There is a there. There is that

459
00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: segment of the population. And I don't like saying it

460
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,119
Speaker 1: because I don't know if it's false humility or it

461
00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,920
Speaker 1: is what it is. But I think that term gets

462
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:56,840
Speaker 1: overused because I think in a situation, anybody who has

463
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,240
Speaker 1: a backbone, who has the right upbringing is going to

464
00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:01,000
Speaker 1: do the right thing because I think deep down and

465
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: everyone they know what the right thing is, and I

466
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:07,200
Speaker 1: think that's just gonna result. My point with the alpha

467
00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: male is that you know, it's difficult for us to

468
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: see some sort of injustice, no matter how big it

469
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:14,919
Speaker 1: is and not say something about it. So that I was,

470
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,800
Speaker 1: you know, lending to your point with you know, maybe

471
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,439
Speaker 1: seeing her get disrespected verbally or hit, it's gonna create

472
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: a situation that we pretty pretty much really don't need

473
00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: to deal with. Fist, somebody's gonna get a fucking fish

474
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: through their heads, somebody's hitting the girl. But as far

475
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:30,000
Speaker 1: as knock the funk out and in a gunfight, you

476
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: know it's you're gonna protect her. I don't care. I mean,

477
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 1: I don't care what happens. You're going to It's just

478
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: gonna happen. There's no way around it, I know, Jack

479
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:41,120
Speaker 1: Murphy said on the Green Berets inside the team room,

480
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 1: he made a really interesting point where he said, like

481
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:46,040
Speaker 1: these beheading videos that come out of Ice, just beheadings

482
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:48,919
Speaker 1: and all that. He said, once one comes out of

483
00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:51,840
Speaker 1: like a female being beheaded, he's like it's all over.

484
00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: Like the public's reaction to that is going to be

485
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 1: doing well. What they don't what they don't say is

486
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,359
Speaker 1: that be heading is the end of it. They don't

487
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,879
Speaker 1: talk about the horrible to those guys are getting raped,

488
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:09,280
Speaker 1: they're getting tortured beyond belief, getting sodomized with freaking objects,

489
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: getting tormented. I mean, be heading at that point in

490
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,200
Speaker 1: time is going to be a relief, not to getting

491
00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: your head sought off is a good deal. But what

492
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 1: about that Jordanian pilot burned a lot? But yeah, I'm

493
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: just that's that's a horrific situation in itself. But they

494
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,120
Speaker 1: don't talk about the atrocity that happens prior to that

495
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,719
Speaker 1: because the American population they don't see what's going on.

496
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 1: They don't they don't see the rampant homosexuality, they don't

497
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,240
Speaker 1: see the repression, they don't see the hatred. They just

498
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: don't see it. My first trip to the Middle Least

499
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:44,080
Speaker 1: and the nineties, an old Arab guy said this to us.

500
00:26:44,520 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: He said, the only thing an Arab understands is a

501
00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: fist in the mouth. In the minute you stopped beating him.

502
00:26:49,480 --> 00:26:53,800
Speaker 1: He hates you because you're weak. M hm. That's coming

503
00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:57,200
Speaker 1: from one of their own people. So we you can't

504
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,880
Speaker 1: understand the population until you've been there and you've lived

505
00:26:59,880 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: with those people. And grant, they've been doing it for

506
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:06,000
Speaker 1: thousands of years. Man there's no there's no changing clam mental.

507
00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,600
Speaker 1: It's not immoral to them, right, that's just that's just

508
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:13,719
Speaker 1: who they are. Live and let live, love your neighbor.

509
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: All that ship is purely Western and far Eastern. They

510
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 1: hold a grudge for eternity. There's you. I can't remember

511
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,159
Speaker 1: what it was, but they were interviewing an individual and

512
00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,280
Speaker 1: he was crying about something that happened in the sixteen

513
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 1: hundreds of how his people have been killed. So we're talking,

514
00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:38,399
Speaker 1: you know, it's four centuries, but that one up. But

515
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: I often on the podcast try to offer that opposite

516
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: perspective just but you know, not necessarily my opinion. But

517
00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,240
Speaker 1: we've had Dan Gordon on the podcast before. His former

518
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,840
Speaker 1: I d F sniper, UM, you know, talks about women

519
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:57,880
Speaker 1: and serving in combat. I don't I think you would

520
00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 1: actually agree with you guys and all this stuff. But

521
00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:02,719
Speaker 1: an interesting point he made on the podcast that I remember,

522
00:28:02,760 --> 00:28:04,760
Speaker 1: and he hasn't been on in ages, is that he

523
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,879
Speaker 1: talked about their certain things women are better at and

524
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:11,160
Speaker 1: could be better purposed for in the military than guys.

525
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 1: And I remember the thing that he that he through

526
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: out there was he said surveillance like long term surveillance

527
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 1: and what he said and he was like just being

528
00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:22,600
Speaker 1: blunt about it is He's like, guys will not focus

529
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: for that long because we're thinking about sex. We have

530
00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 1: our minds and other ship. And women will be able

531
00:28:27,560 --> 00:28:29,880
Speaker 1: to like watch a surveillance video for hours and point

532
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 1: out what's going on that's wrong, right, And they're gonna

533
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 1: notice a guy's shoes, They're gonna notice a guy's watch.

534
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: They're gonna notice if he has the same facial structure

535
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,800
Speaker 1: and he shaves, or if he changes his hair color.

536
00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: It's like asking a man to the surveillor woman. Yeah,

537
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: you can't because you you never make it. You never

538
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,960
Speaker 1: make it past the front and the back. You know what,

539
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,000
Speaker 1: when it comes to women serving in the high threat

540
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 1: UH manner or in special operations, I I I'm with

541
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,040
Speaker 1: it as long as the units are segregated because of

542
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,560
Speaker 1: what I feel that we discussed, you know, before this.

543
00:29:03,920 --> 00:29:08,239
Speaker 1: But I still think that maybe as a government, we

544
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,479
Speaker 1: need to start paying more attention and training or giving

545
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: those tools, those you know, high threat tools to women

546
00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, and it sounds crazy,

547
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,040
Speaker 1: but there they would literally be our last line of

548
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,440
Speaker 1: defense because women whenever a country gets taken over or

549
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,760
Speaker 1: um just to say, your areas being occupied, the women

550
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 1: are the first ones to get snatched up as prizes.

551
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:35,160
Speaker 1: Now you're talking about having potentially well trained individuals in

552
00:29:35,200 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: advantageous situations, so probably throw another coup or like you said,

553
00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: we can get women to places like perfect example, you

554
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: know you can get all these security guards out of

555
00:29:43,920 --> 00:29:45,880
Speaker 1: a room, but you know you can point to a

556
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 1: female said, that's my secretary. Can you leave her here?

557
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: You know, little little dude, that everyone else in that room?

558
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 1: Little does everyone else in that room? No, That she

559
00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:56,120
Speaker 1: probably speaks, you know, several languages and is about that,

560
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to the job in and

561
00:29:57,560 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 1: of itself, listening and analyzing and stuff like that. So

562
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 1: I think definitely adventations to have women with with that

563
00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:06,960
Speaker 1: skill set. But as far as combat units on the ground,

564
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:11,560
Speaker 1: give him a shot, shut but segregate right. And as

565
00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,080
Speaker 1: far as intelligence position goes and some of the more

566
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 1: covert situations, obviously women are gonna be able to get

567
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 1: locations that men can't. But I just think the probability

568
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: of those individuals being romantically and physically involved because you're

569
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: you're you're talking about a hyper hyper aggressive percentage of

570
00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: the population. And with that hyper progression comes on hyper sexuality.

571
00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: You know, you get supercharged up. There's there's lots of

572
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: sex going on. And I'm talking about when the guys

573
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 1: are done working, you're out in the bars and you're

574
00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: doing all that kind of nonsense. The same thing is

575
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: going to happen if the females are in the units. Absolutely.

576
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 1: I heard something interesting. By the way, all that background

577
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: noise is just people doing something down There's always something

578
00:30:56,800 --> 00:31:03,840
Speaker 1: going down to alley. But anyway, because we worked at

579
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:08,520
Speaker 1: a pretty hit place. Um so I heard something interesting

580
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago. Gentlemen in the gym, you know,

581
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:17,720
Speaker 1: you know how So I'm in the sun having my

582
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: scrowed them wax had an interesting conversation was happening. But

583
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 1: this doctor, why are both of your hands on my shoulder?

584
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,320
Speaker 1: Funny is this guy was a doctor, so he's he

585
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,520
Speaker 1: offered me a free exam. You could have turned him down.

586
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 1: He was hot. He was a hot ginger and sauna

587
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: he was. He was a Hindu man. So you know, ship,

588
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: I never had a Hindu before, but I can't say

589
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,320
Speaker 1: that anymore. You know, we're talking and we're talking about

590
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: guys that come from where we come from, and how

591
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 1: we have so many like kids you know, with other

592
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: women like you know, several baby mamas or we have

593
00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 1: failed marriages and stuff like that. And it's interesting and

594
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 1: you brought it up. Um men that live in these

595
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:08,080
Speaker 1: these high pace uh careers, you know, that come close

596
00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: to death several times. Subconsciously, we'll try to procreate to

597
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,000
Speaker 1: extend our lineage. You know. It's something we don't do intentionally,

598
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,360
Speaker 1: we just it's instinctively. So in that I think that

599
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: would be boiled up into it because you, like you said,

600
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: you get hot and bothered, You get all that adrenaline

601
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 1: and pumping up. You know you're gonna die and nextually

602
00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: you know you you're misconstruing you know, several emotions for romance,

603
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,080
Speaker 1: for passion, or telling that you're thinking I could be

604
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: dead tomorrow. Why shouldn't I? Thanks many, I'm trying. That's

605
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,200
Speaker 1: what it boils down to. Yeah, today tomorrow could be

606
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: the end, so why not? I guess wrapping this up,

607
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,760
Speaker 1: what about when you talk about women who could make

608
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: it through buds? If you know, do you think there

609
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 1: is like that anomaly you can not like a Chris

610
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: Cyborg in the UFC who has obviously been on steroids,

611
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: which you know makes you partment on some level. And

612
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 1: you're if if you're I'm a big proponent a testosteron

613
00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: a human growth hormone, especially for our special Operations forces.

614
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: I I think it's the same across the board. If

615
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: you are willing to go to that extreme, you're willing

616
00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: to make that commitment, and you can do it safe

617
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: and you can do it medically, why not. Why not?

618
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: If you agree and if you can get a team

619
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 1: of women in there that are that muscular, that intense,

620
00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 1: and that fucking hard is Woodpecker lips, you get in

621
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: there and do it. Why not? I just I'm just

622
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 1: saying it's been my experience, not my opinion, my experience

623
00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,200
Speaker 1: that you get a bunch of whether it's alpha females,

624
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: alpha males, you get a bunch of people that are

625
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: used to kick in doors in They're gonna want to

626
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:44,880
Speaker 1: drink beer and have sex. That's just why it goes

627
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: the example of like Kristin Back, who has been on

628
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 1: the podcast you know who was a male Navy seal

629
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: deb bru Seal Team six now hyper progressive, hyper progressive dude.

630
00:33:56,240 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: What why? What? However, however uh individual identifies now it's

631
00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 1: and I could care less. I don't care who you

632
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:06,320
Speaker 1: want to have sex with, as long as you don't

633
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: hurt anybody. I don't care. Whoever, I don't care a set.

634
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,719
Speaker 1: If you want to identify as a fucking penguin, I

635
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 1: could care less. But the reality of that situation is

636
00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: you make your your own choices. And he damn sure

637
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: didn't do that in a fucking platoon. He didn't do

638
00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,319
Speaker 1: that in a squadron, and because who knows what would

639
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,360
Speaker 1: have happened, but it would have been good, you know

640
00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:28,799
Speaker 1: what I mean? If I think, you know, the gay dudes,

641
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:33,600
Speaker 1: nobody really cares, you know, but to be pretending, you know,

642
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 1: to be to be making that step in that situation,

643
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:39,080
Speaker 1: when you're in that situation with those guys, that would

644
00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: be a terrible decision. To have the stance that you

645
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:46,640
Speaker 1: have with that individual right now. It takes maturity. And

646
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:49,960
Speaker 1: you know it's because some old No, it's sucking true

647
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: because I think the same way now, But I can't

648
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: say I thought the same way when I was twenty three,

649
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: not because because your mind is somewhere else at that point,

650
00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: and like you said, you're hyper aggressive, you're looking for

651
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 1: the fight, and that's what you need on that side. Well,

652
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: but you've been you've been programmed to that. Life is

653
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 1: supposed to look a certain way. You're supposed to do this,

654
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:11,440
Speaker 1: you're supposed to do that. But because you haven't been anywhere,

655
00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:13,480
Speaker 1: you haven't done anything. And then after the fact is

656
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 1: when you start growing and you know, your testosterone stops,

657
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:18,879
Speaker 1: you know, being produced, and you start becoming a little

658
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:20,560
Speaker 1: bit more motion, a little bit more reasonable, a little

659
00:35:20,600 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 1: and that's a lot of the stuff that you know,

660
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 1: we deal with after the fact. But and that's where

661
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: I agree with you there as well. When it comes

662
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 1: to the testosterone therapy, especially guys that are in this

663
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: line of work for twenty years, twenty plus years, right,

664
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: they're gonna need some help at that point because you

665
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: don't hear what's fast and one just doesn't happen. You

666
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:40,600
Speaker 1: don't have the energy, you don't have the stamina, you

667
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 1: don't heal it's fast. Um I am. I am on

668
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,879
Speaker 1: testosterone therapy, and I will always be you. I mean,

669
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 1: why not until until you know, ninety or until I croak,

670
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: which could be you know now who who the hell knows?

671
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:55,439
Speaker 1: There are no guarantees in this deal, you know. Yeah,

672
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,320
Speaker 1: interesting man. Um. So anyway, I said, I wanted to

673
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 1: get into like the old Steve rolls, and I don't

674
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: know where to begin. It's it's funny because I've only

675
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: really hung out Steve. The last time you were here.

676
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: We got a few burgers, um, because we both don't drink.

677
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:15,200
Speaker 1: Got a burger eat usually would mean no, it's gonna

678
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,279
Speaker 1: even get a bun on it. Did you know that

679
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,240
Speaker 1: protein burgers them? Yeah? He did. I had to convince

680
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: him to eat some of these fried onions. It's called

681
00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 1: onion hay. It was awesome. It's like onion rings without

682
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: all the ship on him. It's just like fried onions.

683
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: Was good. It was very good. Um. But anyway, you

684
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 1: kind of told me the whole origin story of you

685
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: pre sealed growing up as a little kid. I don't

686
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,840
Speaker 1: know if you want to start there, because it's I

687
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:41,800
Speaker 1: think it's such a fascinating story. We got time, We

688
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: got as much time as you want. Man, this is

689
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: it's it's a little bit boring. No, definitely not. That's

690
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 1: a well, you know his story. I mean, I wouldn't

691
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 1: say you know some of it, but I don't know

692
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,640
Speaker 1: Jason in our pals. But the reality of the whole

693
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:02,359
Speaker 1: situation is, I'm I was probably never supposed to be here.

694
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,160
Speaker 1: This is that I found out some things this year

695
00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:08,640
Speaker 1: that I found out that I am a my closest door.

696
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: Well even though we're going out to million of people

697
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:11,600
Speaker 1: in the close the door, so the fund is in

698
00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,399
Speaker 1: the building, can't hear me? How funny is that now

699
00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a product of I'm the I'm the

700
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: product of a sexual assault. And uh, back into that

701
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: point in time, they were forced to get married because

702
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 1: my mother was pregnant, and they were divorced soon after

703
00:37:29,800 --> 00:37:32,600
Speaker 1: because my my father went to the Marine Corps. He

704
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:34,880
Speaker 1: said he was drafted, but he wasn't. He lied to

705
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 1: me and enlisted. And so if you can imagine, I'm

706
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: the human what the human evidence of that atrocity that

707
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:51,920
Speaker 1: happened to that woman? Yeah, can you imagine day and

708
00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: then especially if you have some sort of resemblance to

709
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: your father, terrible exactly. So there's of course she did

710
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:01,759
Speaker 1: whatever she could get rid of me. She couldn't just

711
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: put me up for adoption because the family would have

712
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,439
Speaker 1: would have frowned on that. But so what she did

713
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 1: is she gave me to whatever relatives she could understandable.

714
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: But I lived with some family members and that's just

715
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: We'll just say that they were motorcycle enthusiasts and entrepreneurs,

716
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:25,280
Speaker 1: so they they made certain things and they sold certain things.

717
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:30,719
Speaker 1: And uh, when I was nine, my my cousin and

718
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: I wore running around the house because they were, you know,

719
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: drug dealers and gun runners. And I picked up a

720
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: rifle when I shot him in the head and he

721
00:38:37,640 --> 00:38:41,560
Speaker 1: didn't die right away. I was nine, he was probably seven.

722
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:43,759
Speaker 1: He died a couple a couple of weeks later when

723
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 1: they pulled them you know, they took him off from machines,

724
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,680
Speaker 1: and uh, if you can imagine learning that lesson when

725
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:55,640
Speaker 1: you're ten or nine. So that's where my my self

726
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,320
Speaker 1: loathing started, you know what I mean. I just hated

727
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:00,560
Speaker 1: my And that's why I'm so open to talk about

728
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: suicide and all that other year, because that's the real thing.

729
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 1: So I started started selling drugs when I was ten.

730
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,800
Speaker 1: I started selling marijuana ten, started selling coke about thirteen ish,

731
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,560
Speaker 1: and then I started participating in some gangster stuff as

732
00:39:15,640 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 1: much as you can in Pennsylvania, you know what I mean.

733
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 1: But we were we were doing what we were doing.

734
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 1: I was not a good kid. And then some of

735
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:27,280
Speaker 1: my friends ended up getting in trouble and going places,

736
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 1: and I found I was always interested in Jock Cousteaux

737
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 1: and all that other kind of ship. So I found

738
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: the hardest special forces that the American military had to offer,

739
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: and it just so happened. I got to dive and

740
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 1: jump out of planes and blow shot up and murder motherfucker's.

741
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: So I went into the Seals. I went. I signed

742
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,680
Speaker 1: up to go to the Navy under the die fare program.

743
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,800
Speaker 1: I went only to be a seal, and I wasn't

744
00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 1: specifically fit. I wasn't an athlete, and I struggled through

745
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,160
Speaker 1: all of it, you know what I mean. I got

746
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,399
Speaker 1: rolled back because I was injured. I got rolled back

747
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: because I I think I failed at time braun or something.

748
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: I can't recall. It was years ago, but I still

749
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:17,759
Speaker 1: I made it through training and they didn't do the

750
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,640
Speaker 1: or maybe the that didn't show up on a special

751
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:25,560
Speaker 1: background investigation. But that was it. So I carried that around,

752
00:40:25,560 --> 00:40:28,759
Speaker 1: if you can imagine, I carried that around, all that

753
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 1: self loathing, which was basically a bunch of fear, you

754
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: know what I mean. I was afraid, afraid if you

755
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: found this out with the judgment. Well, of course, of

756
00:40:38,239 --> 00:40:40,840
Speaker 1: course how I'm going to look. I was afraid what

757
00:40:40,920 --> 00:40:43,399
Speaker 1: other people were gonna think about me, And of course

758
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,239
Speaker 1: people are gonna judge it because people have judgment because

759
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: they're afraid, because they're constantly comparing themselves to someone else.

760
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,440
Speaker 1: You had, you had Robot new On here the other day,

761
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: the guy that killed Sama bin Lauden. So I'm the

762
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:57,439
Speaker 1: comic relief for that, you know, I'm like the I'm

763
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,640
Speaker 1: the anti hero in comparison to that character. But the

764
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: reality is that was something I cared around with me

765
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 1: forever and you know, still a little bit to this day.

766
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:09,760
Speaker 1: But so I went through training and the whole time

767
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 1: I was angry, just super angry. I didn't know why,

768
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: because I was afraid. I was afraid that somebody's gonna

769
00:41:18,040 --> 00:41:20,920
Speaker 1: find out this secret, and that was gonna be it,

770
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,879
Speaker 1: especially when you're young and you don't know anything. So

771
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: I went the whole way through training with that, and

772
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: if you can imagine the only time, the only time,

773
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 1: not the whole way through training, the whole way through

774
00:41:33,160 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: my life. The only time that I didn't you drugs

775
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: was when I was in boot camp. So when I

776
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 1: got out and I was in Buds, right right after,

777
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: right after I got a boot camp and I was

778
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: in a regular Navy, I was back to drinking and

779
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:52,440
Speaker 1: using as often as possible, what type of everything, acid,

780
00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:56,440
Speaker 1: whatever I could get my hands on. And for whatever reason,

781
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: well that's self hatred, man. I was completely hated, just

782
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:04,080
Speaker 1: hated myself. I was afraid and I hated myself. All

783
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,279
Speaker 1: that ship going on. That makes the fact that you

784
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: made it through Buds with that, let alone all the

785
00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 1: physical requirements and you know the deep, the dig dig

786
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:15,640
Speaker 1: deep you have to pull out of your ass to

787
00:42:15,800 --> 00:42:20,520
Speaker 1: pass it. Well, the thing is, and I was, I

788
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,400
Speaker 1: was suicidal, but I wasn't gonna do it myself, you

789
00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: know what I mean. It's just like, there's not you're

790
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 1: gonna kill me? So what you so? Then? So then

791
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 1: I won't be suffered anymore. That's crazy. But do you

792
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:34,640
Speaker 1: think anybody who does these things that are you know,

793
00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: feats of superhuman strength. I feel like you have to

794
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:42,160
Speaker 1: have some anger now there made you. But when you

795
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 1: you get over that, the reality is and I've learned

796
00:42:44,840 --> 00:42:48,320
Speaker 1: this through. You know, I've been sober for sixteen years

797
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: coming up on now, and I haven't done I haven't

798
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,640
Speaker 1: I haven't done it perfectly, but I've I've done a

799
00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:55,759
Speaker 1: pretty a pretty fair job of it. The all that

800
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: anger and nonsense, that's all fear. You're afraid, you're afraid

801
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,680
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose something, or you're afraid that somebody isn't

802
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:07,200
Speaker 1: gonna think what you think that they should think about you.

803
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 1: That's all that furious and all that anger is. But

804
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:16,319
Speaker 1: there's really it's just fucking pointless because whatever's gonna happen

805
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: is gonna happen. You have no control over anything but

806
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: your actions, in your attitude, and it took me a

807
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,279
Speaker 1: long time to get there. I mean, it's it's been

808
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,120
Speaker 1: probably I've probably only been in this solid place right

809
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,719
Speaker 1: now for ten years, you know, and I'm sucking forty

810
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,640
Speaker 1: seven years older. Brings me back to something you told

811
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: me when we first met. I was tattooing you, and

812
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: it was probably one of the most profound things I've

813
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:40,720
Speaker 1: ever heard. I don't know if you were just looking

814
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 1: at my face and you saw that, you know, I

815
00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,800
Speaker 1: had that lost look at my face when I was

816
00:43:43,840 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: tatting you and stuff and right there, yeah, I know,

817
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: we we had to take my fucking elbow three times.

818
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:57,960
Speaker 1: The elbow. It's just great. Yeah, it's it's good work.

819
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: And he's not done yet. So he's looked at me,

820
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:03,040
Speaker 1: and you know, I I worry a lot. I have

821
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:04,600
Speaker 1: a ton of things on my mind, you know, it's

822
00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:08,280
Speaker 1: just part of that hyperactiveness, you know, um hyperactive mentality.

823
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:09,839
Speaker 1: And he's just looking at me. He just cause hey,

824
00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 1: in case you were wondering, it doesn't get any better.

825
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 1: You still are, you still will figure You'll still be

826
00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 1: figuring it out, that's what you said. And I looked

827
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 1: at him and I was like, what he goes, if

828
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:25,480
Speaker 1: you're wondering, if you'll still be figuring it out by

829
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,359
Speaker 1: the time you get to my age, I'm telling you, yeah,

830
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,279
Speaker 1: you're still figuring things out. You're not gonna just one

831
00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:34,120
Speaker 1: day wake up and everything is already. All the answers

832
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:35,560
Speaker 1: are there in front of you, you know. And it's

833
00:44:35,600 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: just like that hit me like a ton of bricks, man,

834
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: And I just saw that I had that outlook on life.

835
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:41,799
Speaker 1: I saw I had that foresight when you said that,

836
00:44:41,800 --> 00:44:43,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, you know, what You're right. You

837
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: just gotta take life, you know, evolution after evolution, and

838
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 1: just deal with it. Life is man, there's no way

839
00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:51,320
Speaker 1: around it. You know, nobody gets out of this deal alive.

840
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:53,560
Speaker 1: It just trying to be the best person you can

841
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: every day and it never gets easier. You just get stronger.

842
00:44:57,080 --> 00:45:00,759
Speaker 1: It's crazy, it never gets easier. So, yeah, I was

843
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 1: in UH. I went to my first first Shield team

844
00:45:03,640 --> 00:45:06,839
Speaker 1: as STV Team one, and for whatever reason, I had

845
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 1: an aptitude. It's funny that clapping behind us I had.

846
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,640
Speaker 1: I had an aptitude for driving that miniature submarine. So

847
00:45:14,760 --> 00:45:16,960
Speaker 1: I did it as a primary pilot for two platoons.

848
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 1: So I I got more than a thousand hours driving

849
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 1: that thing. And the thing and the same thing was

850
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,919
Speaker 1: I just wouldn't quit. I wasn't afraid of the cold,

851
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 1: I wasn't afraid of the dark. I wasn't afraid to

852
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 1: get chewed up by a submarine. I was hoping that

853
00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 1: I was that somebody was going to end the pain

854
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,359
Speaker 1: that I thought that I was in. And then after

855
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,080
Speaker 1: that I went to Seal Team three. I was there

856
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: for about four and a half years, and the same

857
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,080
Speaker 1: thing there I volunteered for for Arabic school. They sent

858
00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:45,640
Speaker 1: in Arabic school, and then I did some back and

859
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 1: forth time to the Middle East. But it was it

860
00:45:47,840 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 1: was prior to the war and everything else. It was,

861
00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 1: And I should throw out there, you're you're slightly older

862
00:45:52,600 --> 00:45:54,399
Speaker 1: than like a lot of friends of Seal Team three

863
00:45:54,440 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: on the show. So Whitland, Brandon and Emerson and I.

864
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:04,000
Speaker 1: Clint got to the team right when I was leaving.

865
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:06,479
Speaker 1: He was got the hundred deadly skills, got a great, great,

866
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: great guy, super super talented, crazy, humble dev group guy,

867
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: solid solid cat. If he if he had the opportunity

868
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:16,360
Speaker 1: to do some research on that guy by his stuff,

869
00:46:16,440 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: go to his courses, solid guy. But yeah, it was.

870
00:46:19,960 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 1: It was before all those guys. It was before they

871
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 1: saw the war on the horizon. But you know, we

872
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,400
Speaker 1: didn't know it was coming. And then I got I

873
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: got married. I got married when I was twenty three,

874
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 1: is my second STV platoon, And I got married for

875
00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: all the wrong reasons. The this woman she pursued me,

876
00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:42,040
Speaker 1: and I you know, I had that the situation, this

877
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:43,799
Speaker 1: is what life is supposed to be. I had. I

878
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:47,120
Speaker 1: had done the Seal Team thing, so now I was

879
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: gonna do the rich thing. So I got out, which

880
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,480
Speaker 1: was a terrible decision. I got talked into getting out

881
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:55,640
Speaker 1: a bit. Then I went to the commercial real estate

882
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,760
Speaker 1: industry and made it just a stupid amount of money.

883
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:04,239
Speaker 1: And and then I was I was acting out in

884
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: all those ways. You know they say that you're supposed

885
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: to that, you the American dreams. You have all these things,

886
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:12,880
Speaker 1: and you're happy. You have money, you have cars, you

887
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:14,839
Speaker 1: have houses, you have girlfriends, you have all that stuff.

888
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 1: When you're happy. It's a lie, you know, all that stuff.

889
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:23,720
Speaker 1: You you get the most satisfaction from helping other people,

890
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 1: which which sounds like a cliche and it sounds so nonsensical,

891
00:47:30,600 --> 00:47:33,000
Speaker 1: but that's really You feel good about yourself when you

892
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:36,080
Speaker 1: help other people. And I could not see that, so

893
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 1: I continued, continued to act out. When I got out

894
00:47:41,320 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 1: of the military, I had a large amount of disposed income,

895
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:48,839
Speaker 1: so everything magnified, large amounts of cocaine, large amounts all

896
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:51,759
Speaker 1: that other nonsense that goes with us with it. And

897
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 1: then finally I burned out. I I woke up out

898
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:03,600
Speaker 1: of out of a uh five day blackout. Yeah, it

899
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:05,720
Speaker 1: was it was good. I was doing about it's probably

900
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:09,000
Speaker 1: anywhere from three to six Graham's cocaine every day, drinking

901
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:11,839
Speaker 1: about a leader of vodka taken maybe five or ten

902
00:48:11,960 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: Viking and trying to get the sign waves just right,

903
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, trying to oh yeah, trying

904
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: to get the chemical balance just right, cruising around with

905
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 1: a gun in the car. Too much pot, too much coke,

906
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: and too much money. For whatever reason, I didn't get

907
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 1: pulled over, because it would have been terrible. I mean,

908
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: what if something What if something went wrong and I

909
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: pulled the gun and the cop killed me or I

910
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: you know, killed this guy doing just trying to do

911
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:39,960
Speaker 1: his job. But anyway, I went to I came back

912
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,440
Speaker 1: and I signed the found person's report because they you know,

913
00:48:43,480 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: they followed missing person's report after you've been gone for

914
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:48,080
Speaker 1: forty eight hours. So I came back and signed the

915
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 1: found person's report and went to the hospital. At the time,

916
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,879
Speaker 1: my brother in law was my doctor. So I went

917
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:59,239
Speaker 1: to the hospital and I woke up after a couple

918
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,080
Speaker 1: of days being on conscious and I was, I was.

919
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:07,839
Speaker 1: I was in a pardon me, ankles, knees, hips, elbows,

920
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 1: wrist and a head restraint. What well, I'll freak. You

921
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,280
Speaker 1: must have been. But it was It was definitely unusual

922
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,480
Speaker 1: waking up like that. You know, I was like, thank God,

923
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: my ask doesn't hurt. So I woke up and there

924
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: was this you could laugh about it because like this,

925
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: it's funny. It's funny. I woke up and there was

926
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:33,239
Speaker 1: this giant, giant African American nurse, just big fucking black dude,

927
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 1: and they're reading the newspaper. And I looked over and

928
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get up and I'm like hey, and

929
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 1: he's just sucking ignoring me, and I'm like hey, hey, hey, bitch.

930
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, hey, man, you want to fuck

931
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: you want to turn me loose? And he doesn't even

932
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: look at him. He goes nope. So after that, my

933
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:55,959
Speaker 1: my brother in law and my wife at the time

934
00:49:56,640 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: came in and cried and did all that ship and

935
00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,800
Speaker 1: then the my they brought to one of the doctors

936
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:05,319
Speaker 1: in and they brought the E M T in. They're like, hey,

937
00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 1: you want to meet this guy and I'm like no.

938
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 1: He's like, well, he wants to meet you, and I'm

939
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: like why, So he comes in because I just want

940
00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:14,480
Speaker 1: to meet you. I'm like okay, And because you had

941
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:20,040
Speaker 1: twice the lethal limit of cocaine and barbiturous in your system,

942
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,960
Speaker 1: there's no reason that you should be alive. And I

943
00:50:24,040 --> 00:50:27,720
Speaker 1: was like, well, that's fucking great. Next, you know, because

944
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:29,759
Speaker 1: I was I was literally I was hoping this is

945
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:31,880
Speaker 1: the end of it, you know, because I was still

946
00:50:32,360 --> 00:50:37,680
Speaker 1: still suicidal still. So that went great. And then I

947
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:42,279
Speaker 1: went and went to rehab, of course, and uh, in rehab,

948
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: it was it was a mixed rehab. So let's just

949
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 1: say I was. I was friendly with some girls who

950
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:54,000
Speaker 1: liked girls there, which is which is great. But then

951
00:50:54,840 --> 00:50:56,440
Speaker 1: but the good news is they went back to their

952
00:50:56,440 --> 00:51:00,560
Speaker 1: girlfriends after we were done being being pals. But if

953
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 1: you can imagine you're sitting in this rehabing, this big circle,

954
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 1: and this girl is there with their girlfriend. I'm there

955
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:08,080
Speaker 1: with my wife at the time, and at any time,

956
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,080
Speaker 1: I'm waiting for her to say he and I have

957
00:51:12,120 --> 00:51:14,920
Speaker 1: been doing this. But I mean, if you can imagine

958
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:18,120
Speaker 1: that that intensity inside that circle, when you're supposed to

959
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:19,759
Speaker 1: have this come to Jesus meeting with God in the

960
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:22,320
Speaker 1: whole planet, that's not happening, and it's just not happening.

961
00:51:22,840 --> 00:51:25,680
Speaker 1: So I was still a degenerate the whole way through.

962
00:51:26,600 --> 00:51:29,800
Speaker 1: And then I was It's funny. I thought I was

963
00:51:29,840 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: a smart guy because my commercial real estate had a

964
00:51:33,120 --> 00:51:38,399
Speaker 1: conservative pretaxcess in the two fifty million bucks. And I'm

965
00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: not saying that because I'm intelligent. I'm not saying that

966
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: for any reason rather than I was lucky and I

967
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:44,440
Speaker 1: showed up at the right place at the right time

968
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: a bunch of days in a row. But I exploited

969
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:51,879
Speaker 1: my wife at the times connections and we were we

970
00:51:51,880 --> 00:51:55,640
Speaker 1: were successful. We were successful because one I was powered

971
00:51:55,640 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: by cocaine. I worked twenty hours a day and to

972
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 1: even I was drug adult. I did what I said

973
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: I was gonna do. Well, that's just in you. Yeah,

974
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 1: we just did it work ethic and we put it

975
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,640
Speaker 1: together and we killed it. And uh, I had two

976
00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 1: cocaine dealers working for me, you know, seventeen miles from Mexico. Man,

977
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,800
Speaker 1: why shouldn't I have some cartail guys on the payroll.

978
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,800
Speaker 1: So when I was in when I was in rehab,

979
00:52:21,200 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: I called one of the guys up. His name was Freddie.

980
00:52:23,560 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 1: I said, Freddy, I need you to bring me some yo.

981
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: And he was like here and it's like, boss, you're

982
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 1: in the hospital. It's just Freddie. I know where the

983
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,000
Speaker 1: funk am at. I need you to bring me some,

984
00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 1: you know, And he's like, no, man, I can't do it.

985
00:52:34,600 --> 00:52:38,319
Speaker 1: And I said, Freddie, you know me, I'll come to

986
00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: your house. I'll fucking kill you and everybody there, and

987
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,839
Speaker 1: I'll burn your fucking house down. And he said, I'll

988
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:49,000
Speaker 1: be there in thirty minutes. And he brought me a

989
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 1: fucking ounce of cocaine when I was in ye and

990
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:55,760
Speaker 1: showed up with a perfect little golf ball. What the punk,

991
00:52:56,200 --> 00:52:57,880
Speaker 1: I was gonna be there for a month, dude? Come on,

992
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,279
Speaker 1: that was two weeks. That was two That was two

993
00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:07,120
Speaker 1: weeks when I was, you know, a solid dickhead, so

994
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,319
Speaker 1: in the hospital month, that's that should be enough, dude.

995
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:12,520
Speaker 1: Freddy was initially trying to be a friend. No no,

996
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,680
Speaker 1: when and I did, I did finally get sober. But

997
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:19,760
Speaker 1: when I when I did get sober, I had Freddy

998
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,319
Speaker 1: come into my office. Nobody knew except for a guy.

999
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 1: He used to work for me. He had also been

1000
00:53:23,880 --> 00:53:27,080
Speaker 1: in a seal team with me before. And I said, man,

1001
00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:30,240
Speaker 1: you know you gotta go. So you got two weeks,

1002
00:53:31,280 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: get your stuff together. I'll cut your severance check. So

1003
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 1: Freddy got his stuff together, and you know, I gave

1004
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:39,360
Speaker 1: him a couple a couple of grand extra and he

1005
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:41,400
Speaker 1: split and he went on his mary Way. Hope, hopefully

1006
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: he's doing well. But that was a deal. And then

1007
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: I did get sober, but and then I got divorced.

1008
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: And the reason is I got sober and I started

1009
00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: getting better, and the wife at the time got progressively worse.

1010
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,719
Speaker 1: If you can imagine, she was used to having this selfish,

1011
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,879
Speaker 1: self centered totally afraid. I was consumed with self centered fear,

1012
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,239
Speaker 1: so I was afraid. So she would do whatever she

1013
00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:12,759
Speaker 1: could defeed my ego. So it's like she was taking

1014
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:14,799
Speaker 1: care of a big kid, a big dangerous kid, but

1015
00:54:14,840 --> 00:54:17,239
Speaker 1: you still take care of a big kid. So I

1016
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,800
Speaker 1: got sober and got better, and she progressively got worse,

1017
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 1: and she wasn't willing to do anything about it. So

1018
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 1: we got divorced. And that was what two thousand ten ish,

1019
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:34,840
Speaker 1: a little bit before that. So I've been helping people

1020
00:54:34,840 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: get sober ever since. I still go to the v

1021
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:40,920
Speaker 1: A here. I was going every Monday, but now I

1022
00:54:41,000 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 1: go whenever I can. You know, there's a couple of

1023
00:54:44,840 --> 00:54:48,720
Speaker 1: groups of people I helped. Was that was it easy

1024
00:54:48,760 --> 00:54:50,680
Speaker 1: to walk away from the money for you at that point.

1025
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 1: It's well, yes, at that at that point, it absolutely

1026
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:59,520
Speaker 1: positively was. But the reason I walked away is because

1027
00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:03,160
Speaker 1: I did that stuff for all the wrong reasons. I

1028
00:55:03,160 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: I got married. I love my kids. They're they're the best,

1029
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,840
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna say anything about them, because this

1030
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:13,880
Speaker 1: this goes out to the general population. But the it

1031
00:55:14,040 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: was I did the wrong thing. At one point in time,

1032
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,520
Speaker 1: I thought I was in love with that woman, but

1033
00:55:17,560 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: I just wasn't, you know. She pursued me like you

1034
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:25,520
Speaker 1: would pursue any shining thing. And then the she used

1035
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:27,239
Speaker 1: the rest of her family to snare me because I

1036
00:55:27,239 --> 00:55:32,120
Speaker 1: didn't really have that and I thought it was the

1037
00:55:32,200 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 1: right thing and it wasn't. And when I got divorced,

1038
00:55:34,600 --> 00:55:36,919
Speaker 1: I gave everything back. And we're talking about we took

1039
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:41,720
Speaker 1: the whole family, took vacations together, you know, like planes

1040
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: and ships and all that ship, and I gave it

1041
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:49,279
Speaker 1: all back. I didn't take anything. And the she and

1042
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:54,240
Speaker 1: her and her disgust for me, she continued to pursue

1043
00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:58,440
Speaker 1: me for child supporting things of that nature when I

1044
00:55:58,520 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: literally signed everything over to her. No, it's twenty after

1045
00:56:02,000 --> 00:56:16,000
Speaker 1: nor she it's getting bored. Don't look at you're watching, Steven. No,

1046
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: it's it's funny because when I'm talking like I'm talking,

1047
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: I'm talked to speak to groups of people, and I'll

1048
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:22,480
Speaker 1: call people out. It's like, go ahead, no, take that,

1049
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: take that telephone call. That's fine. Will wait, I do

1050
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 1: ship like that. But but no, it's been a great ride, man,

1051
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: I've had so I gave I gave her everything, the

1052
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,480
Speaker 1: commercial real estate company everything, I signed everything over and

1053
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:38,000
Speaker 1: it was my you know, Rassell real Estate company was mine.

1054
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,680
Speaker 1: But the reality is freedom is worth it. And you know,

1055
00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 1: I think I said on here before you know why

1056
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 1: divorce is so expensive, because it's worth it. She she

1057
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,840
Speaker 1: does not have one good thing to say about me

1058
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,840
Speaker 1: and I you know, the she's the mother of my

1059
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 1: kids and she's not here to defend herself. I just

1060
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: hope that she gets better, I really do, you know,

1061
00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:04,279
Speaker 1: because she's passing that stuff onto my kids. I have

1062
00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:06,799
Speaker 1: a and it's a terrible thing. My one daughter lives

1063
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:08,440
Speaker 1: out here now and she goes to school here and

1064
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 1: I get to see her a couple of times a week,

1065
00:57:09,960 --> 00:57:12,120
Speaker 1: thank god. But they didn't speak to me for three

1066
00:57:12,200 --> 00:57:15,319
Speaker 1: years after that, as you can imagine. And now all

1067
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:16,960
Speaker 1: of them say, how did you stay married to her

1068
00:57:17,000 --> 00:57:19,520
Speaker 1: for so long? What do you think she said about you? Like,

1069
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:22,280
Speaker 1: you know, every probably every terrible thing that she could. Yeah,

1070
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,920
Speaker 1: which is fine. I understand to see you and I

1071
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,360
Speaker 1: feel like this isn't the same human Yeah, but seeing

1072
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,959
Speaker 1: you now, I mean I feel like you're a guy

1073
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:32,560
Speaker 1: who has conquered more than pretty much anyone I know.

1074
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean that story, I think people are gonna love this.

1075
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,800
Speaker 1: I mean, that's like the most awesome origin story I've

1076
00:57:36,800 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: ever heard. Well, the thing is, it's not it's how

1077
00:57:40,720 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: many times you get up? Well, you know, it's a

1078
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: quote that I remember hearing. Um, I'm, you know, a

1079
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: big podcast guy because just doing this and and Joe

1080
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: Rogan has said before he was like I love a

1081
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:54,040
Speaker 1: good success story. But you know what I like more

1082
00:57:54,080 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: than that. He's like, I like a guy who fox

1083
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: his whole wife up, loses everything and comes back. Story

1084
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 1: it Those are the best type of stories to me. Like,

1085
00:58:01,880 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 1: that's your story. Well, I'm on the way back right now.

1086
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: I think because I was a millionaire before I was

1087
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: twenty four. I bought my first house in Coronado into three.

1088
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,720
Speaker 1: I mean, I did all that stuff and I thought

1089
00:58:13,760 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 1: that was that was happiness, and I was so so

1090
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: so mistaken. The I've been chasing that nonsense forever and

1091
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:25,680
Speaker 1: it's funny. We moved to Atlanta, I think it was

1092
00:58:25,720 --> 00:58:29,760
Speaker 1: two thousand twelve, and I joined a paranormal group where

1093
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,200
Speaker 1: they get no we go they go out to these

1094
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: uh they get reports these people. Some claims are just nonsense,

1095
00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 1: but they get reports with these people are experiencing paranormal

1096
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,760
Speaker 1: activity inside their dominant, their house, the dominic house. So

1097
00:58:43,840 --> 00:58:46,080
Speaker 1: we there's a there's a list of questions, and I've

1098
00:58:46,120 --> 00:58:49,479
Speaker 1: interviewed I've literally interviewed more than a thousand people under

1099
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: various states of the rests and UH. I've taken some

1100
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:57,840
Speaker 1: contracts and things that we've we've spoken about offline. But

1101
00:58:58,520 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: I'm fairly fairly savvy of the human animal. There's only

1102
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:06,760
Speaker 1: people do certain things a pent of the time when

1103
00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: they're trying to convince you that things aren't true, when

1104
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: you're honestly trying to convince you that this false statement

1105
00:59:14,920 --> 00:59:18,520
Speaker 1: is true, there do certain things. Everybody's the same. And

1106
00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:23,760
Speaker 1: I've interviewed several people that we just refused to take

1107
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: the investigation. And then there were some investigations where these

1108
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,040
Speaker 1: people were being genuine, they were having an experience. And

1109
00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:34,200
Speaker 1: I've been on either thirteen or fifteen investigations, and every

1110
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,800
Speaker 1: single time we found something, whether it be electronic voice

1111
00:59:37,840 --> 00:59:41,920
Speaker 1: phenomenon or sounds that you can't confirm, or even shadows

1112
00:59:42,480 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 1: inside dark rooms picked up on I R and I'm

1113
00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:47,720
Speaker 1: not saying that it's a ghost. I'm not saying it's this.

1114
00:59:47,800 --> 00:59:49,440
Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's that. But I'm saying it's a

1115
00:59:49,800 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 1: it's an abnormality that we can't define. And to hear

1116
00:59:54,560 --> 00:59:57,880
Speaker 1: full sentences on electronic voice phenomenon when it should not

1117
00:59:57,960 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: be there, I don't know what that is, but we

1118
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:04,960
Speaker 1: captured it. I was there and one particular situation, there

1119
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 1: was a woman who was claiming that she was being

1120
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 1: she was being tortured, tortured, but she was being bothered

1121
01:00:12,680 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: by something, some type of dark energy was bothering her

1122
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: and tormenting her is a good word. And I interviewed her.

1123
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:25,160
Speaker 1: We had cameras on her, but first she talked about

1124
01:00:25,160 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 1: it and we went to her house. So I did

1125
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 1: the investigation around her house. I started her on the

1126
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,400
Speaker 1: outside perimeter and walked around because she was talking about

1127
01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 1: smells and noises and things of that nature. So I

1128
01:00:34,640 --> 01:00:36,960
Speaker 1: checked for septic I went in her attic, I went

1129
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,160
Speaker 1: in her basement. I checked out her h v a

1130
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:41,360
Speaker 1: C system to see if there's anything inside there. I

1131
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:43,680
Speaker 1: checked out her plumbing because a lot of times when

1132
01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:46,280
Speaker 1: you flush the toilet, the pipes and stuff will knock

1133
01:00:46,320 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: on the inside of the house, especially if they're not

1134
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:51,200
Speaker 1: secured correctly. Did all that stuff. I looked around for

1135
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:54,439
Speaker 1: electronics that were disassembled, you know, things like that, things

1136
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,760
Speaker 1: that crackheads would do, or somebody that has a speed problem,

1137
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: or a part of me a crystal meth pro and

1138
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,120
Speaker 1: stuff like that, because I grew up around that ship

1139
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: my whole life, so not to look for and if

1140
01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,960
Speaker 1: there's too many liquor bottles laying around, or I looked

1141
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: through her medicine cabinets to see if there's a large

1142
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,880
Speaker 1: amount of par scription prescription drugs, none of that stuff.

1143
01:01:12,360 --> 01:01:16,360
Speaker 1: And then I interviewed this woman and she was having experience.

1144
01:01:16,440 --> 01:01:19,440
Speaker 1: During the interview, she would break down and start crying,

1145
01:01:20,840 --> 01:01:23,960
Speaker 1: and then she would stop, and then she would continue

1146
01:01:24,000 --> 01:01:28,560
Speaker 1: the interview. And several times during that process she said,

1147
01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:31,360
Speaker 1: if I could take medication and make this go away,

1148
01:01:31,400 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 1: I would do it. She was a middle aged woman, Caucasian,

1149
01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: normal intelligence. I don't know if she was college educated

1150
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:45,120
Speaker 1: or not. I didn't ask her. And when we reviewed

1151
01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: the tape, we can we captured electronic voice phenomena. But

1152
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: that coincided she would break down and start crying, and

1153
01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,560
Speaker 1: you would hear these voices saying, this bitch is gonna

1154
01:01:54,640 --> 01:01:58,800
Speaker 1: kill herself. We're gonna in these horrible voices, We're gonna

1155
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:00,960
Speaker 1: kill her here. You know she's gonna commit you know,

1156
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:04,160
Speaker 1: crazy ship like that. And on the video you could

1157
01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:09,520
Speaker 1: see a disturbance in the pixels around her when this

1158
01:02:09,600 --> 01:02:11,680
Speaker 1: ship was happening that I could that you couldn't see

1159
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: because I was sitting there, me and another part of me,

1160
01:02:14,480 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: another investigator, and I this is crazy because I could

1161
01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 1: just you know, you were not like a wacky conspiracy theorist.

1162
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:26,920
Speaker 1: My hair on the back of my neck just did up.

1163
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,480
Speaker 1: I'm I'm fucking skeptical about water being two atoms of

1164
01:02:31,560 --> 01:02:35,200
Speaker 1: hydrogen and one of oxygen. Seriously, because I've been some

1165
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 1: places and I've seen some things. I'm skeptical about everything.

1166
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 1: So if I hadn't been there, if I hadn't had

1167
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:46,120
Speaker 1: that experience. I would have thought that this was a

1168
01:02:46,160 --> 01:02:50,720
Speaker 1: trailer for some type of thriller, but this happened. I

1169
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:55,280
Speaker 1: was there. And also we did investigations on a lot

1170
01:02:55,280 --> 01:02:59,439
Speaker 1: of houses through on Civil War battle sites, and there's

1171
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: been a few times that I was in the house.

1172
01:03:01,080 --> 01:03:03,520
Speaker 1: And also on the opposite side of that spectrum, I've

1173
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:06,360
Speaker 1: been in houses where people had killed themselves, like been

1174
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,880
Speaker 1: inside the room waiting for something to happen and fall asleep.

1175
01:03:09,360 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: Dan Kulick's ud right next door. He is just supposedly haunted.

1176
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 1: It was it was weird. I slept over there with

1177
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:19,880
Speaker 1: Brandon and Drago and all these like Confederate flags all

1178
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 1: over the house. It was like, this is a little

1179
01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,560
Speaker 1: too weird for me. But I don't have any issues.

1180
01:03:23,760 --> 01:03:26,560
Speaker 1: But it's funny that you said Confederate sized, like some

1181
01:03:26,640 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 1: Confederate hospital. The thousands of people were killed, and no

1182
01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:33,560
Speaker 1: that they were killed horribly. They were shot and then

1183
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:38,360
Speaker 1: they had just amputate. They had no idea about medical procedure,

1184
01:03:38,400 --> 01:03:40,960
Speaker 1: they had no idea about infecttion, no idea about anything.

1185
01:03:41,360 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: But there were some because I've had to respond to situations.

1186
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: I was in a room one time and I could

1187
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,960
Speaker 1: hear somebody walking up the hallway and I thought for

1188
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,640
Speaker 1: sure it was another investigator and I was gonna say, hey, man,

1189
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:57,000
Speaker 1: we're investigating up here. They walked, the footsteps came up.

1190
01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: I was sitting on the floor on the other side

1191
01:03:59,240 --> 01:04:01,680
Speaker 1: of the door, and I was waiting for them to

1192
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:04,000
Speaker 1: turn around, and the footsteps came up and there was

1193
01:04:04,040 --> 01:04:08,600
Speaker 1: fucking nobody there. Freaky it was. It was. It was

1194
01:04:08,640 --> 01:04:10,800
Speaker 1: one of those situations. I was like, Wow, there's something.

1195
01:04:10,840 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 1: There's definitely something going on. There's a crazy story. Man.

1196
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: I feel like the title of this episode should be

1197
01:04:15,720 --> 01:04:21,920
Speaker 1: like Steve rawlstond un Navy Seal the Ghostbuster. That's the gay.

1198
01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:25,440
Speaker 1: That's just gay. Not not in a good way either. No,

1199
01:04:25,640 --> 01:04:27,400
Speaker 1: any kind of gay as good as long as you're

1200
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:33,520
Speaker 1: happy about it. It's just crazy. It's it's a weird

1201
01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,200
Speaker 1: career path. For one, it's not what dude, that wasn't

1202
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,200
Speaker 1: even close to a career. I didn't I never got

1203
01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:40,040
Speaker 1: paid for it. I did it on my own time.

1204
01:04:40,560 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 1: Ever ever since I got out of the commercial real

1205
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,919
Speaker 1: estate industry, I've been contracting and yeah, you know that.

1206
01:04:46,200 --> 01:04:48,760
Speaker 1: So did you go into this thinging like I'm going

1207
01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 1: to debunk something absolutely I absolutely went in thinking these

1208
01:04:53,320 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 1: people were a bunch of freaking wackos. It's total nonsense.

1209
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,760
Speaker 1: And I'm the last person to buy snake oil. It's

1210
01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:03,960
Speaker 1: just not going to happen. But I had some experiences

1211
01:05:03,960 --> 01:05:08,240
Speaker 1: that just defy logic, that defy scientific examination as we

1212
01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:12,520
Speaker 1: know it. And I'm not a I'm not a big

1213
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,520
Speaker 1: proponent of organized religion or any of that stuff. But

1214
01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: there's there's a lot of stuff out there we can't explain.

1215
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:21,800
Speaker 1: I mean, if you think about it, light travels at

1216
01:05:21,800 --> 01:05:24,680
Speaker 1: a hundred and eighty six thousand miles per second, right,

1217
01:05:25,520 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: So how old is the light that reaches this when

1218
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:32,880
Speaker 1: it comes from the sun. Mhm. I think that's like

1219
01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 1: how space space like we see from the planet spaces

1220
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:44,040
Speaker 1: it's like thousands of years old. In space supposedly continues

1221
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:48,320
Speaker 1: to expand in every direction forever, And they say it's

1222
01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 1: actually moving forward fast. It's continuing to expand, and as

1223
01:05:52,360 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: you reach the outer perimeter, it's actually going faster. How

1224
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,560
Speaker 1: are we not bleeding out of our eyes just thinking

1225
01:05:57,600 --> 01:06:00,320
Speaker 1: about that, you know what? I'm so to think that

1226
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:03,600
Speaker 1: there's some things that we just are incapable of understanding.

1227
01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:07,600
Speaker 1: The idea just space like, is it that we haven't

1228
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:10,480
Speaker 1: received that light yet or that's really where it stops

1229
01:06:10,560 --> 01:06:14,080
Speaker 1: or is there? Yeah, it's freaking right. And think that

1230
01:06:14,120 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 1: we were having this experience based on our five senses only,

1231
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:21,000
Speaker 1: because there's the only senses that we know about. And

1232
01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:24,240
Speaker 1: I'm the opposite of a conspiracy theorist. I'm the opposite

1233
01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: of a new wave of new age cat, the opposite

1234
01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:29,720
Speaker 1: of that. But there there's a lot of stuff out

1235
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: there we just don't know. I think they say those

1236
01:06:31,320 --> 01:06:35,720
Speaker 1: are the things that make you go m But and also,

1237
01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:40,080
Speaker 1: I have not had a hallucin. You know, I've been

1238
01:06:40,120 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 1: sober for sixteen years, so I'm not modified. So I'm

1239
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,760
Speaker 1: not altered in any form of fashion. I might have

1240
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,800
Speaker 1: a little bit too much sugar, a little too much caffeine,

1241
01:06:48,800 --> 01:06:51,440
Speaker 1: and some nicotine on occasion, but that's it. That's the

1242
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:55,920
Speaker 1: extent of my for my alteration. So to have these

1243
01:06:55,960 --> 01:06:59,680
Speaker 1: experiences and to collect that, to collect that evidence on

1244
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: alectronic equipment that I purchased and tested, right, because I'm

1245
01:07:04,280 --> 01:07:06,800
Speaker 1: the guy that i'm you know, I'm press checking my

1246
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:09,360
Speaker 1: weapon fifteen times before I axed the vehicle. I mean,

1247
01:07:10,240 --> 01:07:12,600
Speaker 1: I'm that guy. So how did you go from that

1248
01:07:13,360 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 1: security that you're doing. Now it's funny, Brandon, you know,

1249
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:22,040
Speaker 1: Brandon Webb. He introduced me to a guy who had

1250
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:25,240
Speaker 1: a specific need. He had some projects that he was

1251
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:26,920
Speaker 1: working on, and I said, hey, this is this is

1252
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:31,080
Speaker 1: my experience, you know, maybe we should meet. So we met.

1253
01:07:31,200 --> 01:07:33,960
Speaker 1: We were supposed to meet for for a half hour.

1254
01:07:34,000 --> 01:07:36,840
Speaker 1: We end up spending like six hours together. So he

1255
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:38,960
Speaker 1: showed me his company, showed me some of the things

1256
01:07:39,040 --> 01:07:41,040
Speaker 1: he was working on, and then he made me an

1257
01:07:41,040 --> 01:07:43,720
Speaker 1: offer and I refused, and then about the third offer,

1258
01:07:43,760 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 1: I said yes. And then I started to take it

1259
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 1: on some projects for him, and then it just it

1260
01:07:49,120 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 1: just grew. And then I hired Jason to do some things,

1261
01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,479
Speaker 1: and then I have it just spread word of mouth.

1262
01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:58,240
Speaker 1: I do do some surveillance projects and some special investigation

1263
01:07:58,280 --> 01:08:01,439
Speaker 1: projects all over the country for people now and all

1264
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,760
Speaker 1: through word of mouth. It's it's a perfect, perfect platform

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01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: for guys that got out of a reconnaissance like or

1266
01:08:07,680 --> 01:08:11,680
Speaker 1: reconcious surveilance like background, because it's it's what we do best,

1267
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,920
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, everything else we try to figure

1268
01:08:13,960 --> 01:08:16,679
Speaker 1: out when we get out is we're learning something all

1269
01:08:16,720 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: over again. And you know, trying to do it new.

1270
01:08:18,479 --> 01:08:21,360
Speaker 1: But that's something that we don't realize. We became really

1271
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:24,639
Speaker 1: good at right because you're you're hunting humans basically, they said,

1272
01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: you know you're not, You're not putting them down, but

1273
01:08:27,200 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 1: you're you're It's it's just like hunting, except instead of

1274
01:08:30,160 --> 01:08:33,920
Speaker 1: shooting somebody, you're capturing what they're doing on videos. It's

1275
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:36,639
Speaker 1: it's it's close because you can see the guys will

1276
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:38,720
Speaker 1: get the wobble in the videotape where you can tell

1277
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:40,760
Speaker 1: that they're breathing heavy, they're getting excited, the same thing

1278
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: that goes down. But then also sometimes you have to

1279
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:45,000
Speaker 1: get up and you get on a follow and I

1280
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 1: and I required that the guys stay fit because you

1281
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:50,840
Speaker 1: might have to get out of the car visit no joke,

1282
01:08:51,000 --> 01:08:53,560
Speaker 1: you might have to visit some violence on somebody. It's

1283
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,120
Speaker 1: it could happen iecially in some of these neighborhoods. I

1284
01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: was doing a project in Baltimore, a large project for

1285
01:09:00,040 --> 01:09:03,479
Speaker 1: an insurance company, and I was the only Caucasian for

1286
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,759
Speaker 1: miles and it was just like like where Mad Max lives.

1287
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:10,200
Speaker 1: The there were two, two or three row houses would

1288
01:09:10,200 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 1: be fine, and then three or five or seven row

1289
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:16,280
Speaker 1: houses would be torn down and burned. And there were teams, nos,

1290
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,360
Speaker 1: not teams part of me, maybe four or five pit bulls,

1291
01:09:20,200 --> 01:09:22,360
Speaker 1: groups of four or five pit bulls just roaming around

1292
01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:26,400
Speaker 1: the neighborhood. That kind of situation. The prostitutes and the

1293
01:09:26,479 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: drug dealers showed up at eight o'clock. The dudes came

1294
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:32,720
Speaker 1: in and their Mercedes and their BMW's. They picked up

1295
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:34,599
Speaker 1: the deal from the dope men. They picked up the girl.

1296
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,880
Speaker 1: They came back twenty minutes later, dropped the girl off.

1297
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,439
Speaker 1: The guys were out working at eight o'clock in the morning,

1298
01:09:39,439 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: they were back inside at ten o'clock. And there were

1299
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,799
Speaker 1: there were times when people came up to my vehicle.

1300
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,280
Speaker 1: I had different plates on it and stuff, and it

1301
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,479
Speaker 1: looks just like a regular vehicle. You can look inside

1302
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,639
Speaker 1: of it, but there's a there's space in their surveillance

1303
01:09:51,640 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: space and that you just can't see. So there were

1304
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:56,680
Speaker 1: times where groups individuals came up and I had to

1305
01:09:57,000 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 1: you know, I was videotape and I have a concealed

1306
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:01,720
Speaker 1: carry and all that ship, but I was videotaping, and

1307
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,559
Speaker 1: if you know, one of those guys would have done

1308
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:06,760
Speaker 1: the wrong thing, I would have had to respond, you know,

1309
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:10,080
Speaker 1: because at the end of the day, I'm always gonna

1310
01:10:10,120 --> 01:10:12,920
Speaker 1: pick me and you're always gonna pick you, you know,

1311
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 1: So it's it's a it's a good deal. It's been

1312
01:10:16,200 --> 01:10:19,760
Speaker 1: a good life for me. Jason remembers, Uh, we had

1313
01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:23,000
Speaker 1: Ammi Tobin on not too long ago does security. And

1314
01:10:23,240 --> 01:10:25,000
Speaker 1: the reason I bring this up it was interesting is

1315
01:10:25,040 --> 01:10:28,439
Speaker 1: that he doesn't seem to carry practically anything, and he's

1316
01:10:28,439 --> 01:10:31,120
Speaker 1: a security guy. So I wanted, like, what do you carry?

1317
01:10:31,160 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: I carry? It depends, It depends on the situation. If

1318
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,920
Speaker 1: I'm I I will carry a glock twenty six with

1319
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 1: me and at least one magazine. I carry a knife

1320
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 1: with me all the time. I carry a pen with

1321
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:46,240
Speaker 1: a stabbing point on it. I also carry carry mace,

1322
01:10:46,600 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: normally a couple of cans. And by the way, you

1323
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:50,439
Speaker 1: say the pen with the stabbing point, I'm working behind you.

1324
01:10:50,520 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: We were that clin Emerson post deadly skills, and now

1325
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:57,400
Speaker 1: he has numbers. Now he has a new one out

1326
01:10:57,400 --> 01:11:00,719
Speaker 1: with the tungus and steel point, the special window. No, Clint,

1327
01:11:01,240 --> 01:11:03,240
Speaker 1: you think I got some good soils. Clint is the

1328
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:06,400
Speaker 1: real deal. Seriously, He's a everybody wants to be the

1329
01:11:06,439 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: bastard child of you know, Jesus, James Borne or part

1330
01:11:10,200 --> 01:11:12,720
Speaker 1: of me Jason Borne and James Bond. I want to

1331
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:15,000
Speaker 1: be I want to be the offspring of that love triangle,

1332
01:11:15,080 --> 01:11:18,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But Clint Clints the real deal. Now, seriously,

1333
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 1: if I got nothing, nothing but good things to say

1334
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: about that guy, and he's he's made everything I've done

1335
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: look like kindergarten, and he would not say it. You know,

1336
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: He's He's the He's the real thing you mission impossible.

1337
01:11:32,400 --> 01:11:35,920
Speaker 1: That's him for sure. I've just I've been the only

1338
01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:39,160
Speaker 1: thing I would have to say. I have been extraordinarily lucky.

1339
01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:42,000
Speaker 1: I've been dedicated, and like I said, it's it doesn't

1340
01:11:42,040 --> 01:11:43,640
Speaker 1: count how many times you get knocked down. It's how

1341
01:11:43,680 --> 01:11:45,559
Speaker 1: many times you get back up and what you can

1342
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:48,879
Speaker 1: do to help other people. And now it's it's difficult

1343
01:11:48,880 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: to wrap your brain around out, especially in today's society,

1344
01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,400
Speaker 1: when you're being fed all this nonsense by advertising. You're

1345
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 1: supposed to drink this and wear that, and live here

1346
01:11:56,479 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: and drive that and do this. But if you're just

1347
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:02,400
Speaker 1: a good person you're helping, you're gonna go places that

1348
01:12:02,520 --> 01:12:06,040
Speaker 1: in the amount of access we give people in order

1349
01:12:06,080 --> 01:12:08,600
Speaker 1: to pass their judgment, especially with the social media and

1350
01:12:08,600 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: stuff like that. I mean, it's not like you're not accessible.

1351
01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:14,759
Speaker 1: I mean, if you're online, you know you're you're a target,

1352
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:16,320
Speaker 1: you know, whether you look at it or not, because

1353
01:12:16,360 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 1: things are. You got people that are gonna love you,

1354
01:12:18,400 --> 01:12:20,000
Speaker 1: and people are gonna hate you, and if and if

1355
01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,839
Speaker 1: you hate me, I'm open to that ship. You know, seriously,

1356
01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:26,479
Speaker 1: it's at Ralston st E r A L S t

1357
01:12:26,640 --> 01:12:30,800
Speaker 1: O n ST that right you want, they don't want it.

1358
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,400
Speaker 1: I'm not hard to find a little advance morning. This

1359
01:12:33,439 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: isn't the guy to funk with. No, that's just because

1360
01:12:38,520 --> 01:12:40,960
Speaker 1: I'm I'm hung like a code with frightened baby spider.

1361
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,599
Speaker 1: So what Why Why do you like the glock? Because

1362
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,920
Speaker 1: Brandon has said he carries the glock as well on

1363
01:12:49,040 --> 01:12:51,600
Speaker 1: his big thing. He always says there's no safety. He

1364
01:12:51,640 --> 01:12:54,599
Speaker 1: doesn't like having a safety. Well, I like it one

1365
01:12:54,640 --> 01:12:57,920
Speaker 1: because it's smallest compact. You very, very seldom have a

1366
01:12:57,960 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 1: problem with it. As long as you are familiar with it,

1367
01:13:03,200 --> 01:13:04,679
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have a problem. And it's so easy

1368
01:13:04,720 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 1: to conceal. And not that I hate to say it,

1369
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 1: but I'm a fucking white guy. Nobody's gonna bother me.

1370
01:13:10,280 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 1: I look like I look like everybody, you know what

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01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 1: I mean. And I'm definitely I'm a little I'm a

1372
01:13:15,640 --> 01:13:18,880
Speaker 1: little bit more fit. I have to be conscious of

1373
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 1: not carrying, especially in New York and stuff like that,

1374
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,160
Speaker 1: because you see me on the street, I have high

1375
01:13:23,320 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 1: What he's saying is I have a higher probability of

1376
01:13:25,160 --> 01:13:27,680
Speaker 1: getting pulled over. And first, and for you, it's your

1377
01:13:27,680 --> 01:13:31,320
Speaker 1: tattoos on your hand. And now you don't, dude, I

1378
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:32,840
Speaker 1: love you like your brother, but you look a little

1379
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:34,760
Speaker 1: bit ethnic, you know exactly. But that's why I got

1380
01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,040
Speaker 1: to work where we work the racial profile, and that

1381
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:39,920
Speaker 1: happens all day every day, and you and we we

1382
01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:42,280
Speaker 1: say it doesn't. But I gotta tell your racial profile,

1383
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:45,280
Speaker 1: those safe thousands and thousands of lives, not just here

1384
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:49,080
Speaker 1: but everywhere. And that stuff exists for a reason because

1385
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 1: you're more likely to have violence in certain groups of people.

1386
01:13:51,600 --> 01:13:53,439
Speaker 1: And that's just the way it goes down. But granted,

1387
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:57,320
Speaker 1: the mass shooters are all white guys, but the majority

1388
01:13:57,320 --> 01:13:59,320
Speaker 1: of those things would have been prevented by armed citizens,

1389
01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: unless you know, we're talking about the Islamic terrorist mash shooters.

1390
01:14:03,360 --> 01:14:05,320
Speaker 1: But the home grown No I'm talking about I'm talking

1391
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,040
Speaker 1: about the problems in our country. Yeah, well, you know,

1392
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: I'm just thinking of well not mass shooters from things

1393
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:14,519
Speaker 1: like the Snio saw that, you know. But yeah, you're right.

1394
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:17,120
Speaker 1: I think every community has their their problems. So I

1395
01:14:17,200 --> 01:14:19,280
Speaker 1: guess is that safe to safe for both you guys.

1396
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:24,400
Speaker 1: You're for the stop and frisk stuff. I lived in

1397
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,160
Speaker 1: New York actively when they had their stopping frisk program

1398
01:14:28,160 --> 01:14:31,120
Speaker 1: in full swing, and I was stopped a couple of times.

1399
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:34,280
Speaker 1: You know, I didn't have crap on me, but um, yeah,

1400
01:14:34,360 --> 01:14:36,280
Speaker 1: they took a lot of ship off the streets during

1401
01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:40,719
Speaker 1: that period. New York quiet down significantly with that program

1402
01:14:40,720 --> 01:14:42,839
Speaker 1: in place, because it got to the point, I remember,

1403
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:47,960
Speaker 1: up to that point, everyone was packing, everyone carried a

1404
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,400
Speaker 1: large amount of drugs on them, transporting left and right.

1405
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:54,120
Speaker 1: I mean, we used the law to circumvent you know,

1406
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:56,920
Speaker 1: or you know, to transport out in the streets whatever

1407
01:14:57,600 --> 01:14:59,320
Speaker 1: until that happened. When that happened, it got to a

1408
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: point where were so scared to bring anything out they

1409
01:15:02,160 --> 01:15:05,599
Speaker 1: just stopped because they knew the chances of them getting

1410
01:15:05,600 --> 01:15:08,280
Speaker 1: for his daily it was extremely high, and you had

1411
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:11,320
Speaker 1: police officers and NYPD patrolling like four or five at

1412
01:15:11,320 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 1: a time, one going down south on one avenue and

1413
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:17,240
Speaker 1: the other ones coming up north on that avenue, and

1414
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,960
Speaker 1: they would just pull guys randomly looking crazy. Hey, come,

1415
01:15:19,960 --> 01:15:25,519
Speaker 1: here's check the sweats. You know. The you know controversy though,

1416
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:27,720
Speaker 1: because you often talk about on the show, like what

1417
01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,240
Speaker 1: about the kid who stopped with a small amount of pot?

1418
01:15:30,320 --> 01:15:33,120
Speaker 1: Not doing any harm? You know, and you know, it

1419
01:15:33,160 --> 01:15:35,599
Speaker 1: all depends on what's in place for that that that

1420
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 1: government municipality. I mean, if they're gonna just do desk

1421
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,080
Speaker 1: appearance tickets for a small amount of marijuana, you're getting

1422
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:43,479
Speaker 1: caught with it, you know what I mean. Well, they

1423
01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: don't even do now they I mean, they decriminalize marijuana,

1424
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:51,320
Speaker 1: but police officers are using it to open up the

1425
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: door to you know, warrant searches, vehicle searches, stuff like that.

1426
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:57,840
Speaker 1: You know, they it's a it's an excuse for them

1427
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 1: to you know, pat you down, and it's just something

1428
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:01,719
Speaker 1: you to live with. It mean, if you're walking around

1429
01:16:01,720 --> 01:16:04,120
Speaker 1: with weed on you and you get pulled over, you

1430
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:07,680
Speaker 1: just lost the game, bro. And it's been my experience

1431
01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:10,439
Speaker 1: with cops because I've done some right alongs and things

1432
01:16:10,479 --> 01:16:12,800
Speaker 1: of that nature. If you tell the cop what's going on,

1433
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:14,800
Speaker 1: you show up, he shows up to your car. You

1434
01:16:14,920 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 1: got your license and registration, he asked you, says, yeah,

1435
01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:19,400
Speaker 1: I got some weed right here. Lots of time she'll

1436
01:16:19,479 --> 01:16:23,320
Speaker 1: just take it and dump it, you know, because especially

1437
01:16:23,360 --> 01:16:25,320
Speaker 1: here in this city, those these guys are here to

1438
01:16:25,320 --> 01:16:28,679
Speaker 1: save your life. They're not here to hassle you. Some are, though,

1439
01:16:29,720 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: don't give me wrong. Some are just assholes. Of course.

1440
01:16:31,840 --> 01:16:33,920
Speaker 1: It's a general population. That's just the way young to

1441
01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:35,640
Speaker 1: They're young punks, a lot of them, you know. Some

1442
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:39,400
Speaker 1: of them are fresh out their mother's basement, you know,

1443
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,680
Speaker 1: and then you give the video games, give them, give

1444
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,479
Speaker 1: them this authority, and you know, just be honest. Some

1445
01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:46,719
Speaker 1: of them are there, but I'm not talking about the

1446
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 1: more respectable ones that are doing the job and doing

1447
01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:52,479
Speaker 1: things of that nature. Your experience has been different than mine,

1448
01:16:52,720 --> 01:16:55,360
Speaker 1: and I agree with that, But I also could sit

1449
01:16:55,400 --> 01:16:59,439
Speaker 1: here in the same at the same moment and admit that, yeah,

1450
01:16:59,439 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: we do a lot of wrong fun in the hood,

1451
01:17:01,439 --> 01:17:03,439
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's hard. It's hard out there.

1452
01:17:04,200 --> 01:17:06,840
Speaker 1: It's out there, but it's because we grew up in that. So,

1453
01:17:06,960 --> 01:17:08,720
Speaker 1: like you said, when you grew up the way you

1454
01:17:08,760 --> 01:17:11,720
Speaker 1: grew up. It's a different deal you thought. Morally, it's

1455
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:13,599
Speaker 1: just what goes down, you know what I mean. It's

1456
01:17:13,640 --> 01:17:17,120
Speaker 1: funny that you mentioned that you're talking about morally the

1457
01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,639
Speaker 1: when you're when you're getting ready to get out of training,

1458
01:17:20,640 --> 01:17:22,839
Speaker 1: and budge like, if you like the six hundred question

1459
01:17:23,479 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 1: psychological eval And I took it, and then the very

1460
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:30,760
Speaker 1: next day they had me come back and take it again.

1461
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 1: It's like a four hour test. I'm like, Jesus Christ,

1462
01:17:33,280 --> 01:17:36,000
Speaker 1: or are you serious? And then the lady sent me

1463
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 1: down and said, Mr Ralston, we'd like to discuss your

1464
01:17:38,160 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: moral flexibility. She says, you have a great attitude and

1465
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:45,680
Speaker 1: you're going places, but you have a certain moral flexibility

1466
01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:48,600
Speaker 1: that we find alarming. You mean I'm not perfect for

1467
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:51,960
Speaker 1: the job. Sounds like I'm perfect at the job. I'm

1468
01:17:51,960 --> 01:17:54,760
Speaker 1: here here to drink beer and fun fat chicks. I mean,

1469
01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:59,800
Speaker 1: come on, I've never really understood how some guys could fail.

1470
01:17:59,840 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 1: So Pike vows, you know what I realized. It's those

1471
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:06,519
Speaker 1: motherfucker's that tell the truth, right. I don't think anyone

1472
01:18:06,560 --> 01:18:10,040
Speaker 1: that ministers a psychologically val wants to hear the truth.

1473
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:12,559
Speaker 1: They want to see if you're fucking smart enough not

1474
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: to tell the truth. You know. I remember one kid

1475
01:18:16,160 --> 01:18:20,559
Speaker 1: specifically taking a screening for a certain group. He got

1476
01:18:20,600 --> 01:18:23,360
Speaker 1: booted anyway, it doesn't matter. I remember so long ago. Um,

1477
01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: this kid, no ship divulged that he had an affair

1478
01:18:27,520 --> 01:18:30,640
Speaker 1: overseas during a deployment and he was married and he

1479
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:33,479
Speaker 1: slept with the prostitute in Thailand or some ship it was.

1480
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: It was probably a lady boy, and he was trying

1481
01:18:35,320 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: to get some points for it, you know. And I'm

1482
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:40,120
Speaker 1: and I remember because I was I was a part

1483
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:42,680
Speaker 1: of the cadre doing the selection assessment, and I'm just there.

1484
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:44,959
Speaker 1: I wasn't really involved in it. On just their bullshitting

1485
01:18:44,960 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 1: and I'm in the background, and you know, they come

1486
01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: in with the folder and say, hey, we gotta drop

1487
01:18:48,920 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: this kid. And this kid was you know, he's been

1488
01:18:50,920 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 1: in the community for a while. Yea solid cat. And

1489
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: we said why, but the guys doing the psyche, we're

1490
01:18:56,960 --> 01:19:00,360
Speaker 1: fucking doctors. They weren't military guys, you know. So once

1491
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,720
Speaker 1: we transition to so calm, you know, we had that

1492
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:04,840
Speaker 1: we needed that. Well that's what they told us, you

1493
01:19:04,840 --> 01:19:07,639
Speaker 1: have to use these doctors. So once they nixed them.

1494
01:19:07,680 --> 01:19:09,400
Speaker 1: We found out why they nixed them, and it was

1495
01:19:09,439 --> 01:19:14,640
Speaker 1: because he cheated on his wife during a deployment exactly.

1496
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:16,600
Speaker 1: So if he could cheat the way they said. The

1497
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,360
Speaker 1: doctor said if he could cheat on his wife, that

1498
01:19:18,439 --> 01:19:20,720
Speaker 1: he could cheat on his government. So I was like,

1499
01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:23,759
Speaker 1: that's not accurate. I think it's definitely not accurate because

1500
01:19:23,840 --> 01:19:26,320
Speaker 1: most kids at that fucking age that go on deployments,

1501
01:19:27,080 --> 01:19:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, when in Rome do as the Romans do.

1502
01:19:29,200 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: You know. What I will say is he funked up

1503
01:19:33,240 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 1: by even saying that what business was it of there?

1504
01:19:35,760 --> 01:19:38,400
Speaker 1: So if you're going to take a psyche about that's

1505
01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:40,719
Speaker 1: how they know you're crazy if you tell them the truth,

1506
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:44,320
Speaker 1: like this kid's crazy. Well, in my situation, I was.

1507
01:19:44,600 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: I was not yet twenty and it was it was

1508
01:19:51,240 --> 01:19:55,719
Speaker 1: to two of the command seals and then some civilian woman.

1509
01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:00,400
Speaker 1: But told him the truth and they just said, we

1510
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,479
Speaker 1: want to discuss your moral flexibility and I was like, well,

1511
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:07,519
Speaker 1: what's the problem. And they didn't have one obviously because

1512
01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 1: here I am. But there was lots of fun anyway,

1513
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:15,040
Speaker 1: good ship right there. It's funny. I did, uh. I

1514
01:20:15,080 --> 01:20:17,439
Speaker 1: did get accepted to go to DEV group after my

1515
01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:21,240
Speaker 1: first see your platoon, and we did the interview and

1516
01:20:21,439 --> 01:20:24,320
Speaker 1: I didn't take the assignment because I'm a dumbass. But

1517
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:29,000
Speaker 1: the you take, you take another psyche val and they

1518
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,400
Speaker 1: sit around you and a semicircle and you sit in

1519
01:20:32,479 --> 01:20:35,280
Speaker 1: the middle and they fire questions at you. And one

1520
01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,240
Speaker 1: of the questions was, Mr. Ralston, you don't seem very

1521
01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:43,840
Speaker 1: aggressive or assertive. How do we know that you'll be

1522
01:20:43,880 --> 01:20:45,400
Speaker 1: able to do what we might need you to do?

1523
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,680
Speaker 1: And I was, you know, I was still consume with

1524
01:20:48,720 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: self centered fear. It was important to me what other

1525
01:20:50,479 --> 01:20:53,720
Speaker 1: people thought. And I was visibly shaken by this. So

1526
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:55,479
Speaker 1: I grabbed ahold of the chair and I looked down

1527
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 1: and I said, well, you can ask my oh I

1528
01:20:58,960 --> 01:21:03,080
Speaker 1: see my chief, my l p O, and my former

1529
01:21:03,600 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 1: oh I C in chief and LPO, and they'll tell

1530
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:08,559
Speaker 1: you I should be able to do what you might

1531
01:21:08,600 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 1: need me to do. Yeah, that's all I have to

1532
01:21:10,840 --> 01:21:15,320
Speaker 1: say about that. That's also question. How do we know?

1533
01:21:15,720 --> 01:21:17,240
Speaker 1: They were trying to push my buttons. They were trying

1534
01:21:17,240 --> 01:21:22,880
Speaker 1: to get me to say, fuck you, I'll bite your eye,

1535
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:28,160
Speaker 1: hunting funk your dead skull eleven you made it there

1536
01:21:28,160 --> 01:21:32,000
Speaker 1: you go? You know the Virginia Junior Bastard. Do you

1537
01:21:32,040 --> 01:21:37,120
Speaker 1: remember during the Republican primary debates that they it was

1538
01:21:37,160 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 1: actually hu Huit or whatever. He's like conservative talk personality,

1539
01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 1: which I was surprised he asked this, like got your question?

1540
01:21:44,600 --> 01:21:47,240
Speaker 1: You remember he asked Dr Ben Carson. He was like,

1541
01:21:47,360 --> 01:21:50,880
Speaker 1: Dr Ben Carson, You've done brain surgery, You've saved countless kids.

1542
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,280
Speaker 1: He was like, are you prepared to go to war

1543
01:21:54,600 --> 01:21:59,080
Speaker 1: and kill civilians and like kill children? Like, how do

1544
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: you answer that? Quick? You know what I mean? Not

1545
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:04,639
Speaker 1: intention of a weird question, The answer would be yes,

1546
01:22:05,720 --> 01:22:07,679
Speaker 1: since I'm not doing the killing, all I gotta saying

1547
01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 1: is do it I'm in. It was such a weird

1548
01:22:10,520 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 1: question because it reminds me of exactly what you just said,

1549
01:22:13,240 --> 01:22:16,880
Speaker 1: the question of um, you know you're not aggressive, because

1550
01:22:16,920 --> 01:22:20,880
Speaker 1: Ben Carson is like this really even tempered guy, right,

1551
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 1: So it's just it was a strange question. Yeah, he's

1552
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,800
Speaker 1: like the photo negative of Mr Rogers, right, And that

1553
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:30,439
Speaker 1: question was totally set up. No, I'm just thinking like

1554
01:22:30,560 --> 01:22:33,280
Speaker 1: why would you ask anyone that question? Like that's a setup,

1555
01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:35,760
Speaker 1: that's like how long have you been gay for? You know,

1556
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,479
Speaker 1: wait a minute, you didn't even ask me if I

1557
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,320
Speaker 1: was gay or not? When when did you stop beating

1558
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:45,080
Speaker 1: your wife? Wait a minute, I'm gonna see it, find

1559
01:22:45,120 --> 01:22:47,840
Speaker 1: it because it was so it was a really weird

1560
01:22:47,960 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 1: fucking question. And maybe I won't find it if I

1561
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:54,640
Speaker 1: don't know. Well, that's all right, we forgive you. Now.

1562
01:22:56,080 --> 01:22:58,479
Speaker 1: He's the guy in the chair. Yeah, he's in the

1563
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 1: chair igan? Why you? Why is your Why is your

1564
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:07,559
Speaker 1: chair humming? That's weird coming up to your six? That's

1565
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 1: he's got He was the dude and Punisher that got

1566
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 1: beyond the chair. Oh yeah, have you watch Punisher yet?

1567
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:16,800
Speaker 1: I have not doing I need to watch it. Well,

1568
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:19,000
Speaker 1: I'm I'm watching. What am I watching? I would just

1569
01:23:19,000 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 1: watch the Stephen King The Mist on Netflix? Yeah, yeah,

1570
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:24,840
Speaker 1: that was a pretty good run. I'm watching the Penny

1571
01:23:24,920 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: Dreadful series. It's about werewolves and vampires and wacky ship

1572
01:23:28,600 --> 01:23:30,799
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, and it's got a bunch of wacky

1573
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:32,599
Speaker 1: sex in it too, which is you know, weird. Pen

1574
01:23:33,080 --> 01:23:35,840
Speaker 1: is good? Yeah, all right, I guess I'm not. You're

1575
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:39,880
Speaker 1: not gonna find it? Well? Um, but and and you

1576
01:23:39,880 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 1: know we mentioned him earlier. What you wanted to plug?

1577
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 1: West Wind Ye Rogue American Apparel and Invader coffee. All

1578
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:49,800
Speaker 1: funny story. He gave me some of this beard oil,

1579
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,479
Speaker 1: you know, and you look nice. Thanks, I appreciate it.

1580
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm I'm I know, I know you weren't gay, but

1581
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,360
Speaker 1: but if I was, if I was, you'd be banging me.

1582
01:24:02,920 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 1: But no. The the funny thing is, he gave me

1583
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:09,080
Speaker 1: this beard oil, and I'm I'm only friends with females

1584
01:24:09,080 --> 01:24:13,639
Speaker 1: that are gay, just because, just because it's smarter and

1585
01:24:13,840 --> 01:24:16,280
Speaker 1: it's just better that way. So I've asked, you know,

1586
01:24:16,280 --> 01:24:18,600
Speaker 1: a bunch of these lesbians what they think of my

1587
01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 1: beard oil. So I texted westback. I was like, hey,

1588
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:26,320
Speaker 1: man Ford, lesbians love your beard oils. You know it worked.

1589
01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:30,080
Speaker 1: If lesbians love your beard oil, you know it's good ship.

1590
01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying. Yeah. Well, and then Clint to

1591
01:24:34,560 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 1: Clint Emerson for the hundred Deadly Skills. Check out his

1592
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:41,960
Speaker 1: deal at Skills. He's got a bunch of stuff going on.

1593
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:44,559
Speaker 1: He teaches classes and stuff like that. And also by

1594
01:24:44,680 --> 01:24:48,559
Speaker 1: Jason's book Bonnie Hunter, Gotta buy it, Gotta buy it.

1595
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,439
Speaker 1: We're pals, That's what I'm talking about. So I've actually

1596
01:24:51,439 --> 01:24:54,280
Speaker 1: found the question, let's hear it. Yeah, expect then are

1597
01:24:54,320 --> 01:24:58,599
Speaker 1: inspired by your life story, your kindness, your evangelical course support.

1598
01:24:58,800 --> 01:25:03,320
Speaker 1: We're talking about ruth things tonight, carpet bombing, toughness, war,

1599
01:25:03,880 --> 01:25:06,719
Speaker 1: and people wonder could you do that? Could you order

1600
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:10,240
Speaker 1: air strikes that would kill innocent children by not the scores,

1601
01:25:10,280 --> 01:25:13,000
Speaker 1: but the hundreds and the thousands? Could you wage war

1602
01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 1: as a commander in chief? Well? Interestingly enough, you should

1603
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:21,439
Speaker 1: see the eyes of some of those children when I

1604
01:25:21,520 --> 01:25:24,320
Speaker 1: say to them, We're going to have to open your

1605
01:25:24,320 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 1: head up and take out this tumor. They're not happy

1606
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:30,120
Speaker 1: about it, believe me, and they don't like me very

1607
01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,280
Speaker 1: much at that point, but later on they love me.

1608
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:41,800
Speaker 1: Sometimes you I sound like him, Uh Lynn you. He

1609
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:43,720
Speaker 1: did a good job responding to it. But to me,

1610
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:46,639
Speaker 1: that was like, what a fucking got you question? From

1611
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:49,160
Speaker 1: a guy who's you know, conservative? It was just a

1612
01:25:49,200 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 1: weird Are you going to be able to carpet children

1613
01:25:52,520 --> 01:25:56,960
Speaker 1: only if I'm sitting naked eating What kind of question

1614
01:25:57,080 --> 01:25:58,840
Speaker 1: is that? Are you kidding me? And how do you

1615
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:01,719
Speaker 1: how do you give a good only? If I could watch?

1616
01:26:03,640 --> 01:26:05,640
Speaker 1: And then he goes, I look into the eyes of

1617
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:10,000
Speaker 1: these children. I think he's gonna go look into their

1618
01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,880
Speaker 1: melted skulls. What are you talking about? You go over there,

1619
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: you're doing I think he did a good job of

1620
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:17,640
Speaker 1: kind of he pulled it back when he was like

1621
01:26:17,720 --> 01:26:19,200
Speaker 1: what I told him, I have to open up their

1622
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,080
Speaker 1: heads up. Okay, I thought you were talking about the

1623
01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:24,080
Speaker 1: carpet box. You look into their eyes, you're the man

1624
01:26:24,160 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: for the job. You're pretty cold. I looked, I look,

1625
01:26:28,280 --> 01:26:31,280
Speaker 1: I'm watching, I'm watching the video from the missiles. I'm

1626
01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:34,280
Speaker 1: looking into their eyes right before they detonate, and I'm

1627
01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:37,000
Speaker 1: digging it, am I Right though, what an awful question.

1628
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:39,240
Speaker 1: That's great man. He was trying to put that guy

1629
01:26:39,280 --> 01:26:40,960
Speaker 1: on the spot, and he did it. I mean, was

1630
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,400
Speaker 1: it was it a little bit off the wall and

1631
01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 1: a little bit sideways he was he was trying to

1632
01:26:46,400 --> 01:26:49,479
Speaker 1: put the could have been to President United States under

1633
01:26:49,479 --> 01:26:53,840
Speaker 1: the rest. He did it. Yeah, he was successful. Maybe

1634
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:56,960
Speaker 1: he could he have chosen a different tactic, sure, but

1635
01:26:57,040 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 1: he got the response he was looking for. He definitely

1636
01:26:59,000 --> 01:27:01,600
Speaker 1: stopped that guy in the strap. Actually thought about it me,

1637
01:27:01,720 --> 01:27:04,639
Speaker 1: I would have been like, you know, greased up and naked,

1638
01:27:04,680 --> 01:27:08,320
Speaker 1: I'm in something the whacky like that and really, holy shit,

1639
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,600
Speaker 1: I mean Trump said a lot of crazy ship and

1640
01:27:11,600 --> 01:27:16,120
Speaker 1: he because what he said, dude, like said he I'm

1641
01:27:16,120 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: sure he tweeted a bunch of crazy ships. Since we've

1642
01:27:18,120 --> 01:27:21,439
Speaker 1: been soon you're talking, well you are. I don't know

1643
01:27:21,439 --> 01:27:24,360
Speaker 1: if you remember. Actually while the whole election was going on,

1644
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 1: like there was a big almost campaign of this audience

1645
01:27:27,680 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: who wanted Mike Ritland to be president. That would have

1646
01:27:30,360 --> 01:27:32,840
Speaker 1: been so awesome. I would get all these tweets hashtag

1647
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 1: Mike Ritland for President. And there were actually people who

1648
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:40,040
Speaker 1: were like soccer radioissons who wrote in Mike Ritland for President.

1649
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:43,360
Speaker 1: That's actually I don't I don't know him personally. I've

1650
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:44,800
Speaker 1: listened to some of the stuff. I don't know. My

1651
01:27:45,160 --> 01:27:46,880
Speaker 1: sounds like a great dude. I'm sure he is. So

1652
01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,439
Speaker 1: what's what he trick? Ghost? Is this Kandel right? Trys Kandell? Yeah,

1653
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 1: go check out Go check out his stuff too, Mike

1654
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,800
Speaker 1: Ritland for President t shirt nice he made them after

1655
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 1: that whole thing. He's sleeping it don't Yeah, you can

1656
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:06,120
Speaker 1: tell us, but I think people like him because he's

1657
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 1: just such a no bullshit guy. He just come on

1658
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:10,920
Speaker 1: the podcast to be like these politicians they're all full

1659
01:28:10,960 --> 01:28:12,960
Speaker 1: of ship and just tells it out they should have

1660
01:28:13,000 --> 01:28:16,080
Speaker 1: to wear uniforms like NASCAR drivers. Man, I've heard they should.

1661
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,479
Speaker 1: I've I've heard that too, they should have to so

1662
01:28:18,520 --> 01:28:21,519
Speaker 1: we can see exactly who bought these guys. Yeah, So

1663
01:28:21,720 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: I got a question for Steve Um obviously, what all

1664
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: the Navy Seals coming out in their success after after work,

1665
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:31,000
Speaker 1: after the fact. What do you feel about that as

1666
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 1: far as guys coming out and actually continuing on within

1667
01:28:36,360 --> 01:28:38,519
Speaker 1: the genre or within the field, you know, and then

1668
01:28:38,560 --> 01:28:41,479
Speaker 1: getting into us stuff like coffee, security work, and you know,

1669
01:28:41,560 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 1: I think being on that public platform, everybody's on their

1670
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 1: own path. Man, everybody's on their own journey. And I'm

1671
01:28:49,360 --> 01:28:54,400
Speaker 1: the I've got no no place to judge anyone for

1672
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 1: anything that they've done, you know what I mean. If

1673
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 1: and if people are out there and they're they're enjoying

1674
01:28:59,320 --> 01:29:02,439
Speaker 1: some success and and they're helping himself and they're helping

1675
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:05,439
Speaker 1: the community, as long as they're giving back and helping out,

1676
01:29:05,520 --> 01:29:07,280
Speaker 1: I got nothing bad to say. And the reality is,

1677
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:11,080
Speaker 1: as long as you're not hurting anyone, I could give

1678
01:29:11,120 --> 01:29:13,640
Speaker 1: a hoot bucket of funk what you're doing. You know,

1679
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:16,559
Speaker 1: if the guys are out there making money, making movies,

1680
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,400
Speaker 1: making books, I mean, a lot of people were throwing

1681
01:29:18,479 --> 01:29:22,960
Speaker 1: rocks at Brandon for the success that he's experienced because

1682
01:29:23,000 --> 01:29:25,000
Speaker 1: of the hard work he's done. Fuck them, they were

1683
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:27,840
Speaker 1: just they're just jealous because they weren't the prime mover

1684
01:29:28,960 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 1: and the establishment and he was. So if guys can

1685
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:37,240
Speaker 1: get out and write books, make movies, sell products, sell coffee,

1686
01:29:37,240 --> 01:29:40,559
Speaker 1: sell t shirts, sell condoms, who cares. They're out there

1687
01:29:40,600 --> 01:29:43,240
Speaker 1: doing the right thing. They're helping themselves, they're helping the

1688
01:29:43,240 --> 01:29:45,880
Speaker 1: community because regardless of how much money they make, that

1689
01:29:45,960 --> 01:29:48,000
Speaker 1: money is going back into the system in some form

1690
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:51,840
Speaker 1: or fashion. So they're helping. And if they're going to

1691
01:29:51,920 --> 01:29:55,919
Speaker 1: get out and do what they do to generate revenue,

1692
01:29:56,320 --> 01:29:58,439
Speaker 1: you know, God love them. They've they've done the work,

1693
01:29:58,479 --> 01:30:00,760
Speaker 1: they've put the time in, so why shouldn't. And for

1694
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,080
Speaker 1: a long time, of course, this was this was a

1695
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:05,920
Speaker 1: lot of these men's career for years. So after they

1696
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:07,840
Speaker 1: get out, I mean, what else could you revert to it?

1697
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,280
Speaker 1: And this isn't this isn't new. People been writing books

1698
01:30:10,320 --> 01:30:13,160
Speaker 1: about this stuff forever, and now people were I think

1699
01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:16,719
Speaker 1: the words getting out now because everybody has a voice

1700
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:19,559
Speaker 1: because of these social media platforms. Everybody can say anything.

1701
01:30:19,640 --> 01:30:23,639
Speaker 1: They want to, and if it's outrageous enough, they'll get

1702
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,880
Speaker 1: some of nurse so they'll get some momentum. They'll they'll

1703
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:28,559
Speaker 1: form a foundation, of course, and you're gonna have the

1704
01:30:28,560 --> 01:30:30,320
Speaker 1: good guys and you're gonna have the bad guys. But

1705
01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:33,560
Speaker 1: like we were talking about earlier, a couple of individuals

1706
01:30:33,560 --> 01:30:35,760
Speaker 1: that they won't get an airplay on here, not for me,

1707
01:30:36,320 --> 01:30:39,080
Speaker 1: but to any time. It's been my experience. At any

1708
01:30:39,080 --> 01:30:43,240
Speaker 1: time anyone is angry or wants to put somebody else down,

1709
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:45,599
Speaker 1: it's because they're afraid. They're afraid that there's not enough

1710
01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 1: for them. There's not enough success. There's not enough money,

1711
01:30:47,880 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 1: there's not enough tension, there's not enough girlfriends, there's not

1712
01:30:50,560 --> 01:30:55,720
Speaker 1: enough whatever. At nauseum, there's not enough. It's a lie.

1713
01:30:55,840 --> 01:30:59,120
Speaker 1: There's an endless supply of everything. All you gotta do

1714
01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:00,840
Speaker 1: is go out and work for those people are just

1715
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,240
Speaker 1: jealous and they're angry and they're afraid that they're not

1716
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:04,479
Speaker 1: going to get there. So I'm not going to get

1717
01:31:04,479 --> 01:31:08,720
Speaker 1: their success. And if you're afraid, it's never gonna show up,

1718
01:31:09,479 --> 01:31:12,720
Speaker 1: it's just not any chance of Steve Rauston book in

1719
01:31:12,720 --> 01:31:16,559
Speaker 1: the Future, not about me, man am I I'm a

1720
01:31:16,600 --> 01:31:20,000
Speaker 1: pretty boring cat, and I do not think our audience

1721
01:31:20,000 --> 01:31:22,800
Speaker 1: will find that boring. I thought you're pretty interesting if

1722
01:31:22,840 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 1: I do. If I do, it'll be fixing. Now I

1723
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:27,840
Speaker 1: didn't think you're pretty and you're fucking interesting, dude. I

1724
01:31:27,880 --> 01:31:30,160
Speaker 1: don't know. And your story would be different than all

1725
01:31:30,200 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 1: these guys because it wouldn't be the combat veteran story. Well,

1726
01:31:33,160 --> 01:31:35,000
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, I'm the I'm the only guy. That's the

1727
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:37,840
Speaker 1: funny thing is I I got my confirmed killed before

1728
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:40,960
Speaker 1: I did anything, and um, you know it's I that's

1729
01:31:41,000 --> 01:31:45,160
Speaker 1: a little bit what maybe crass is probably the wrong word,

1730
01:31:45,160 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 1: but is it an insensitive cats? Insensitive? But the reality

1731
01:31:49,560 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 1: is I've carried that around for a long time and

1732
01:31:52,120 --> 01:31:56,240
Speaker 1: that's uh the one instance and in my existence that's

1733
01:31:56,280 --> 01:31:58,479
Speaker 1: completely formed me as a human. I've got nothing to

1734
01:31:58,479 --> 01:32:03,720
Speaker 1: be afraid of. I've I have given everything away and

1735
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:08,120
Speaker 1: I'm I'm rebuilding and I really don't have a negative

1736
01:32:08,160 --> 01:32:10,720
Speaker 1: thing to say about anyone. I'm happy that people have

1737
01:32:10,920 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 1: enjoyed various amounts of success. I wish the best for

1738
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 1: everyone and I just want to be as helpful as

1739
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 1: I can. But you do have in that in that aspect,

1740
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:21,639
Speaker 1: you do have a lot to offer, you know, you

1741
01:32:21,920 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 1: have a choir or attain a certain amount of success

1742
01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 1: while struggling with demons, you know. And I think there's

1743
01:32:28,080 --> 01:32:30,759
Speaker 1: a lot of guys that are followed in your footsteps,

1744
01:32:30,800 --> 01:32:33,000
Speaker 1: are are following in your footsteps. I kind of want

1745
01:32:33,040 --> 01:32:35,880
Speaker 1: to hear that positive reinforcement and just you know, well,

1746
01:32:35,920 --> 01:32:39,160
Speaker 1: if there's if there's anybody out there listening, and you

1747
01:32:39,200 --> 01:32:41,599
Speaker 1: know they reach out to me, I'm available, man, because

1748
01:32:41,720 --> 01:32:44,040
Speaker 1: fucking late at night, when you're there by yourself, when

1749
01:32:44,080 --> 01:32:47,080
Speaker 1: you're afraid and the fucking demons come, you can fucking

1750
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:50,720
Speaker 1: call me, man and we'll fight those motherfucker's together. It's real, Bro,

1751
01:32:51,280 --> 01:32:54,479
Speaker 1: and Jo, I should throw in your martial arts enthusias.

1752
01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:59,599
Speaker 1: Like I said, that's just guys. I'm sure fat and ugly.

1753
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:06,000
Speaker 1: I've had I've had to defend myself now. I'm a

1754
01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:11,240
Speaker 1: I'm a fucking I am a thy king, thy kickboxing guy.

1755
01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:14,880
Speaker 1: I practice it a little bit and I'm more of

1756
01:33:14,920 --> 01:33:17,800
Speaker 1: a more of a weightlifter and the core strength and

1757
01:33:17,840 --> 01:33:19,880
Speaker 1: a kettlebell guy. You know what I mean. I can't

1758
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:21,599
Speaker 1: and the reason I'm not a B J J guy.

1759
01:33:21,640 --> 01:33:24,320
Speaker 1: I can't. I'm old man, I can't have people fucking

1760
01:33:24,320 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 1: touching me. But I'll fucking put a leg kick on

1761
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 1: you and drop you down before you know what's happening,

1762
01:33:29,000 --> 01:33:31,560
Speaker 1: because I can't have you touching me, you know what

1763
01:33:31,640 --> 01:33:33,559
Speaker 1: I mean, because you're gonna you know, because I don't

1764
01:33:33,600 --> 01:33:34,760
Speaker 1: want to stab you, I don't want to shoot you,

1765
01:33:34,760 --> 01:33:36,400
Speaker 1: but I'm sure it's not gonna let you touch me.

1766
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:39,240
Speaker 1: I guess I thought b j J because that's what

1767
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,320
Speaker 1: Jason is doing, and we were talking more for it's

1768
01:33:41,320 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: the last time. I'm just doing it. I'm familiar with

1769
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:46,599
Speaker 1: doing it for working out guys, not because I want

1770
01:33:46,600 --> 01:33:49,080
Speaker 1: to learn how to fight. I can already. Yeah, I'll

1771
01:33:49,439 --> 01:33:52,720
Speaker 1: motherfucker you know. But the point is it's it's I

1772
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: think what you're saying. It was like with the whole

1773
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:55,920
Speaker 1: b j J thing. We discussed this before. It's just

1774
01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:58,439
Speaker 1: you know, it's it's a thing. It's a sport, right,

1775
01:33:58,840 --> 01:34:00,840
Speaker 1: and where you're wrestling the ground and trying to want

1776
01:34:00,880 --> 01:34:02,439
Speaker 1: up the guy in the ground. But the reality is,

1777
01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:04,479
Speaker 1: if you're in the line of work that you know

1778
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:08,200
Speaker 1: that we were in, right you you don't got time

1779
01:34:08,200 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 1: to roll around the floor. In fact, the moment you

1780
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:11,840
Speaker 1: can break away break the funk away, pull out your

1781
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:15,240
Speaker 1: pistol and put in his eye exactly. So that's that's

1782
01:34:15,240 --> 01:34:18,280
Speaker 1: a whole different thing. And that's how we train martial

1783
01:34:18,360 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 1: arts wise in the military or and when you start

1784
01:34:21,160 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 1: getting up into the specialized units, you start learning how

1785
01:34:24,600 --> 01:34:29,000
Speaker 1: to break away, create that distance and pull out your

1786
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:31,040
Speaker 1: your secondary whatever it is, kill him and get the

1787
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:33,240
Speaker 1: job over with and keep that because you can't afford

1788
01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:35,559
Speaker 1: to be touching somebody. That's too much time, you know,

1789
01:34:35,600 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: because that's just you know that you can't be dealing

1790
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:40,040
Speaker 1: with somebody. I mean, if it's if it's captured, you're

1791
01:34:40,040 --> 01:34:41,760
Speaker 1: gonna take him with you, then that's a different deal.

1792
01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:45,160
Speaker 1: But you can't have somebody touching you and not I mean,

1793
01:34:45,200 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 1: I'm I'm old and frail man. I can't take it. Well.

1794
01:34:47,880 --> 01:34:51,120
Speaker 1: I think what what you and I are talking about

1795
01:34:51,160 --> 01:34:52,840
Speaker 1: was the last time we spoke, I was I was

1796
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:57,639
Speaker 1: asking you about boxing because I yeah, of course it

1797
01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:00,360
Speaker 1: was affair. And when I work with guys, because I

1798
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:02,559
Speaker 1: work with all kinds of people you can imagine, try

1799
01:35:02,640 --> 01:35:04,519
Speaker 1: to help them get out of whatever problem or have.

1800
01:35:04,600 --> 01:35:06,240
Speaker 1: And I asked him if they ever been punched in

1801
01:35:06,240 --> 01:35:08,400
Speaker 1: the face, and they look at me like a dog

1802
01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:10,479
Speaker 1: looking at a ceiling fan, you know, like to be fair.

1803
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:13,760
Speaker 1: My answer was yes, no, no, no, I hear you,

1804
01:35:13,840 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 1: and I'm with you. Bro, This isn't a dig on you.

1805
01:35:16,240 --> 01:35:19,760
Speaker 1: But you know, I hear you. Know the audience knows

1806
01:35:19,760 --> 01:35:21,280
Speaker 1: that you've been in a scrap or two. Bro. You

1807
01:35:21,320 --> 01:35:23,040
Speaker 1: gotta you gotta give that to them. They're smarter than

1808
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:26,479
Speaker 1: your average bear. But the reason I say that because

1809
01:35:26,520 --> 01:35:29,559
Speaker 1: if you've never been punched in the face, then then

1810
01:35:29,600 --> 01:35:31,360
Speaker 1: I don't think you've had a real experience. You've never

1811
01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:34,200
Speaker 1: experienced real pain. You don't you because I think after

1812
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 1: you've been punched in the face, you realize you're not

1813
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:38,200
Speaker 1: gonna break. It's gonna hurt, it's gonna suck, but you're

1814
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:41,000
Speaker 1: gonna get over it. And that's the same about everything.

1815
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:47,000
Speaker 1: If you think about it, you're gonna be uncomfortable in life.

1816
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 1: Sometimes it's gonna hurt, sometimes it's gonna suck, but you're

1817
01:35:50,560 --> 01:35:52,960
Speaker 1: gonna get sucking over it. You just gotta keep going,

1818
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:55,640
Speaker 1: keep going. Like I said before, it doesn't matter how

1819
01:35:55,720 --> 01:35:57,519
Speaker 1: many times you get knocked down. It matters how many

1820
01:35:57,520 --> 01:35:59,800
Speaker 1: times you get back up. You know, because I have

1821
01:36:00,120 --> 01:36:04,439
Speaker 1: still a lot of skin Man a lot. Would I

1822
01:36:04,439 --> 01:36:08,400
Speaker 1: be crazy to say Steve needs his own podcast? Like

1823
01:36:08,439 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 1: I said, will you only say that because I'm sure

1824
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,559
Speaker 1: I have that same you know, because I know you're

1825
01:36:14,600 --> 01:36:16,840
Speaker 1: into Jocko well, and I feel like Steven has the

1826
01:36:16,960 --> 01:36:19,479
Speaker 1: same day. I think a lot of a lot of

1827
01:36:19,720 --> 01:36:22,439
Speaker 1: men like Steve that once they get to that point

1828
01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:25,880
Speaker 1: in their life where they have that wisdom to offer,

1829
01:36:26,240 --> 01:36:29,120
Speaker 1: you know, especially guys that are still like look at

1830
01:36:29,160 --> 01:36:32,559
Speaker 1: me in my lost face and saying, you know, relax man,

1831
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:34,680
Speaker 1: I could tell you're kind of freaking out, you know.

1832
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:37,599
Speaker 1: But he has that wisdom abouttom where he can he

1833
01:36:37,640 --> 01:36:39,920
Speaker 1: knows when it's time to say something to you because

1834
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:41,240
Speaker 1: he can see it, can smell it on you, you you

1835
01:36:41,320 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 1: know what I mean? And like like a fart in

1836
01:36:43,400 --> 01:36:46,840
Speaker 1: the car exactly like I did it. I don't it's

1837
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:49,200
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. Yeah, he's not gonna ask who just farted.

1838
01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 1: We're only two people in the car. He knows it's

1839
01:36:54,479 --> 01:36:57,439
Speaker 1: gonna be okay. Well, to end it on a light note,

1840
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Speaker 1: throw out there. Uh, actually it'll be this month because

1866
01:38:34,240 --> 01:38:36,679
Speaker 1: people will be here in this December one. There's gonna

1867
01:38:36,680 --> 01:38:39,120
Speaker 1: be that gym West Bar fighting class. I got the

1868
01:38:39,160 --> 01:38:42,040
Speaker 1: email blast about that. So if you're a member, Jim Man,

1869
01:38:42,080 --> 01:38:45,320
Speaker 1: you can never talk to Jim. Somebody's getting fucking stabbed,

1870
01:38:46,040 --> 01:38:49,559
Speaker 1: knocked out. And that's a fighting class at a bar.

1871
01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:53,639
Speaker 1: It's at everything. So if you're a member, I probably

1872
01:38:53,640 --> 01:38:56,439
Speaker 1: got that email blast. I'll be honest, I don't know

1873
01:38:56,560 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 1: exactly what's going on for Vegas uh in January. Uh,

1874
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:04,920
Speaker 1: drinking and horring, but I just haven't heard about um,

1875
01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:07,120
Speaker 1: you know, usually the team room event, and I don't

1876
01:39:07,120 --> 01:39:08,920
Speaker 1: really know what's going on. As soon as I do,

1877
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 1: i'll let you know. I was on the phone with

1878
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:14,960
Speaker 1: the odissean or managing editor, and uh hopefully at some

1879
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:18,800
Speaker 1: point I will know what's happening. Uh. But anyway to

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Speaker 1: t E. He posts some awesome pictures his awesome view

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Speaker 1: from your house. Yeah, exactly from my house. It's now

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Speaker 1: what we love it. The funny thing is we wanted

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Speaker 1: to have the New York experience, and every day it's

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Speaker 1: like living the movie. When my signing, when my fiance

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Speaker 1: isn't there. There's lots of times I won't even turn

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Speaker 1: the lights on, you know, because I get up at

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Speaker 1: four o'clock in the morning, I'm home, it's sick, so

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Speaker 1: it's dark, so I just keep the curtains up. I

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Speaker 1: don't turn the lights on, and you just look around.

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Speaker 1: You look out at the Empire State Building, over to

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Speaker 1: New Yorker, down at the Freedom Tower up into Harlem.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing Jason has been there. I will say that

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Speaker 1: I know people that pay way more damn near double,

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Speaker 1: and they have nothing, nothing compared to the view that

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Speaker 1: he has, Like it is breathtaking. I've lived down here

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Speaker 1: my whole life, and I've never seen New York in

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Speaker 1: that light. Like sitting in his fucking living room, now

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Speaker 1: we'll dude, we'll have to get you over there. And

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Speaker 1: it's it really is amazing. I feel, like I told

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Speaker 1: you before, I've been incredibly lucky because I have, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say God, I'm gonna I'm gonna say God,

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Speaker 1: God has been incredibly, incredibly, incredibly good to me. And

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Speaker 1: my God, have you ever seen have you ever seen

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Speaker 1: a matrix? If I had to personify God, my God

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Speaker 1: would look like the Oracle and the matrix. You know, seriously,

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Speaker 1: a a a black grandmother who smokes cigarettes and makes

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Speaker 1: cookies just looks and she's no, she's gonna love you regardless.

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Speaker 1: She's not mad at you for jerking off. You know,

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Speaker 1: she's gonna she's gonna love you no matter what. But

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Speaker 1: whatever God is has been incredibly good to me because

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Speaker 1: I live in that place and I'm just happy to

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Speaker 1: get up every day and do the deal and I'm

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Speaker 1: happy that all my limbs still work and all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But I feel like I should be, like I should

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Speaker 1: be writing a great American classic, you know. Living in

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Speaker 1: that place, looking at those buildings, it's it's just so inspirational.

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Speaker 1: Every day, even when it's raining and when it's now,

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Speaker 1: and I'm no joke. You know, I'll get you. Let's

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Speaker 1: get We'll get on the books, get you over the

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Speaker 1: next week you can see what I'm talking about. All

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Speaker 1: three of us will go out to dinner and come

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Speaker 1: back to my place and have a drink and we'll

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Speaker 1: raise up all the all the blinds and you can

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Speaker 1: see what's going on. Because it is truly amazing this. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Anybody who knocks this city has never seen it from

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Speaker 1: a from a place like acid like that, or anybody

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Speaker 1: who knocks this country has never had that experience to

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Speaker 1: come over and see what's available. All you all you

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Speaker 1: really have to do is work and you can get it.

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Speaker 1: Like that's when you think of New York and all

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Speaker 1: the romantic visions that are played out in Hollywood. It's

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Speaker 1: that that's a view man, because like I said, I

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Speaker 1: don't feel that way. I'm jaded when when it when

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Speaker 1: it comes to New York and like when people come

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Speaker 1: here for the first time, you know, I kind of

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Speaker 1: get excited because you kind of live vicaratly through them

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Speaker 1: when they're looking at the big buildings and their eyes

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Speaker 1: are open. But I never felt that until I sat

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Speaker 1: in its breaking apartment and it's like, Wow, this is

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Speaker 1: my city. I'm proud of it again. Degree views from

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Speaker 1: the Intrepid, the whole way up to Harlem, the whole

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Speaker 1: way across the city, over to the Empire State Building,

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Speaker 1: down to the New Yorker, down to the Freedom Tower,

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Speaker 1: and down over to Hoboken. I miss about twenty degrees

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Speaker 1: behind me. That's I think it's like a per eight

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Speaker 1: teen maybe or something. But it's just it's just phenomenal,

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Speaker 1: it really is. It's breathtaking, and it's it's uh to

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Speaker 1: think the first no joke, the first house I lived

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Speaker 1: in had a had an outhouse mhm. And to think

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Speaker 1: that this kid from Pennsylvania who literally grew up with nothing,

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Speaker 1: I'm living here doing this deal, having the time of

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Speaker 1: my life all day every day. You know, granted it's

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Speaker 1: not a twenty four hour orgasm, but it's pretty good.

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Speaker 1: You know. It's like that spirit of you know, when

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Speaker 1: you look at that industry and free enterprise, and especially

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Speaker 1: in this current climate where everything is you know, I'm

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Speaker 1: putting air quotes up like toxic masculinity, Like its great

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Speaker 1: men who built those buildings, right, I think people need

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Speaker 1: to remember that great Yeah. And the thing is I'm

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Speaker 1: a I'm and I said earlier that I don't believe

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Speaker 1: that males and females should be mixed in combat units.

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Speaker 1: But I'm a huge proponent of equal rights across the board, Blacks, whites, browns,

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Speaker 1: whatever the funk. I could give a ship less about that.

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Speaker 1: And women should have the same exact chances that men do,

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Speaker 1: because there's a lot of women that went unnoticed for

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Speaker 1: the contributions they made to our great nation, and there's

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Speaker 1: a lot of them that are that are victimized and

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Speaker 1: horse ship like that going on right now. But the

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Speaker 1: you know, having three daughters, you know that that change

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Speaker 1: that change the things, and not that men if it.

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Speaker 1: Women are much stronger than we are. There. They figure

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Speaker 1: it out about twenty five. Guys don't figure it out

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Speaker 1: the little about thirty. Regardless, every little thing, everything a

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Speaker 1: little girl does, there's a romant reason for it. Everything

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Speaker 1: a little boy does, he's gonna slam his head into

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Speaker 1: something until he realizes it hurts. And that's just the

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Speaker 1: reality of it. They got us beat. They gotta speed

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Speaker 1: hands down, and you know they don't. They don't get

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Speaker 1: the accolades that they deserve. And don't get me wrong, man,

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Speaker 1: I'm a you know, I'm a caveman just like everyone else.

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Speaker 1: But the reality is they don't get a fair shake

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Speaker 1: of all the time, and I think that's bullshit. It is.

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Speaker 1: I love this episode, man, thanks for coming on, Steve.

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Speaker 1: Any anything else from either of you guys before we

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, by Jason's book man Bound Hunt for three. Yeah, seriously,

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Speaker 1: go check out Clint a hundred Deadly Skills and then

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Speaker 1: go to Rogue American. Check out those guys. They are

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Speaker 1: Rogue American Appair of West Whitlock. And then there's uh

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Speaker 1: delicious Jay and I can't think of the rest of

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Speaker 1: the people done there now, but go make sure you

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Speaker 1: check out as much off rep stuff as you can

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Speaker 1: to create Club Brandon. Brandon is a great guy and

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Speaker 1: he's got a bunch of ship he doesn't deserve. So

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Speaker 1: I got nothing but good things to say and and

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Speaker 1: let the fucking haters come, man, man, dude, and I

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Speaker 1: just wanna because to me, this is the tone of

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Speaker 1: this episode is I just want to say to those

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Speaker 1: veterans out there that are struggling with demons, you know,

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Speaker 1: reach out, reach out, man, reach out, get that help.

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Speaker 1: There's there's help. Therefore, you, if a minimum, just to

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Speaker 1: get your issues out on the table, out in the open,

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Speaker 1: to discuss them. You know, don't hold that on your own. Man.

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Speaker 1: You got a ton of brothers out there and a

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Speaker 1: ton of people willing to help you see through it,

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Speaker 1: you know, So take that opportunity to take to take

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Speaker 1: advantage of what what's in place, and if at minimum,

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Speaker 1: just reach out to a buddy, let them know you're

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Speaker 1: all right or you're not all right either, whatever the

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Speaker 1: case is, you know, just do that. Yeah, and just

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna I can't remember exactly who I'm quoting, but

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Speaker 1: the reality of the whole situation is everybody, everybody is

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Speaker 1: good enough. Everybody is good enough. You do matter, you

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Speaker 1: are important, and we care about you, which sounds you

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Speaker 1: can you can say whatever you want to call you

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Speaker 1: call me. I'm as gay as you can get, just

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Speaker 1: to be clear about that. But the reality is we care, man,

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Speaker 1: and that's no humans. There is a pretty limited menu

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Speaker 1: of ship that we're capable of. You know, we've only

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Speaker 1: been at it for a couple of thousand years on

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Speaker 1: the planet, so there's nothing that anyone's done that you

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Speaker 1: can't talk your way through it. No granted, if you're

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Speaker 1: a fucking rapist or a serial killer or something like that,

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Speaker 1: then you should be dead. But the reality is, I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about guys who have gone places and done things

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Speaker 1: that they think they should be ashamed of it or whatever.

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Speaker 1: That's not accurate. You shouldn't be ashamed of that. People

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Speaker 1: do things under certain situations that you know, maybe you

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Speaker 1: can't talk to everybody about that or whatever, But the

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Speaker 1: reality is there's people out there the care and everybody

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Speaker 1: deserves a shot, and if nobody will talk to you,

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Speaker 1: I will. That's you've been listening to Self Rep Radio.

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