WEBVTT - TechStuff Investigates Forensic Technology

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<v Speaker 1>Get in touch with technology with tech Stuff from how

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<v Speaker 1>stuff Works dot com. Hey there, and welcome to tech Stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I am your host, Jonathan Strickland. I'm an executive producer

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<v Speaker 1>with how Stuff Works in I love all things tech,

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<v Speaker 1>though today we're gonna be talking about a branch of

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<v Speaker 1>technology that gets up. I'm pretty grim and pretty serious. Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a listener request. Listener Hakim asked that I

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<v Speaker 1>do an episode about forensic technology, so I'm actually gonna

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<v Speaker 1>do a pair of episodes. It is fascinating stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>it's definitely not quite the same as what we see

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<v Speaker 1>in depictions on film or in television shows. That's not

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<v Speaker 1>a big surprise. We've covered multiple times how technology in

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<v Speaker 1>pop culture is very different from what we see in reality.

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<v Speaker 1>But in this episode, I'm going to specifically focus on

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<v Speaker 1>the history of forensics, and in the next episode we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about some of the cutting edge technologies that are

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<v Speaker 1>used in for psick investigations today. So forensics, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>has a few different definitions. If you are being very literal,

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<v Speaker 1>it can mean debate or discussion in Latin, but as

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<v Speaker 1>we tend to use it today, we refer to it

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<v Speaker 1>as the science with regard to detecting and solving crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>So not just if a crime has occurred, but how

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<v Speaker 1>did a crime occur, how did it unfold in time,

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<v Speaker 1>who was involved? That sort of stuff. And like all sciences,

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<v Speaker 1>forensics can trace its history back far before the formal

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<v Speaker 1>codification of the scientific method, and this involves lots of

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<v Speaker 1>different ideas and processes for different elements of investigation developing

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<v Speaker 1>at various times throughout history. Like most things, forensics involved

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of different ideas being tested throughout centuries before

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<v Speaker 1>maturing as a collection of practices. So one of the

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<v Speaker 1>easy ideas we can talk about, because there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of different independent threads that converge to become forensics.

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<v Speaker 1>On easy entry point is a discussion about fingerprints and

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<v Speaker 1>developing the skills and technology to detect and identify them

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<v Speaker 1>and classify them in the context of criminal investigations. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>I've done a full episode on fingerprinting in the past,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'll give more of a short overview of the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing here. There are records that actually indicate that

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<v Speaker 1>handprints were used as evidence and investigations for burglary back

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<v Speaker 1>in China more than two thousand years ago, and the

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<v Speaker 1>book with the English title Universal History, which was published

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<v Speaker 1>in Persia in the th hundreds, mentioned the practice of

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<v Speaker 1>identifying people based upon their fingerprints. European anatomists and philosophers

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<v Speaker 1>made observations about fingerprints in the seventeenth century, but those

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<v Speaker 1>observations weren't really connected to the idea that fingerprints themselves

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<v Speaker 1>are unique to specific individuals and that no two people

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<v Speaker 1>would share the same ones. J. C. A. Meyer, a

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<v Speaker 1>German anatomist, published Anatomical Copper Plates with Appropriate Explanations. That's

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<v Speaker 1>the actual title of the book, Anatomical Copper Plates with

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<v Speaker 1>Appropriate Explanations, in sounds like it was a rip roaring

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<v Speaker 1>picture book anyway. He described fingerprints as being unique, but

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<v Speaker 1>also noted that they can appear similar to one another. So,

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<v Speaker 1>in other words, on close examination you will see that

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<v Speaker 1>they are unique, but on casual glance you may not

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<v Speaker 1>be able to make that distinction easily. The nineteenth century

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<v Speaker 1>saw a lot more work to define the qualities of

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<v Speaker 1>fingerprints and how to classify them. How would you describe

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<v Speaker 1>the fingerprints, how would you describe the grooves in such

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<v Speaker 1>a way that it made sense? And then how would

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<v Speaker 1>you classify fingerprints so that you could kind of categorize them,

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<v Speaker 1>and how would you preserve impressions of them. All of

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<v Speaker 1>these were ideas and practices that were developed in the

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<v Speaker 1>eighteen hundreds. By the end of that century, Mark Twain

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<v Speaker 1>was incorporating the idea of using fingerprints to identify a

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<v Speaker 1>murderer and a couple of his books, And right at

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<v Speaker 1>the cusp of the twentieth century, just before nineteen hundred,

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<v Speaker 1>you had organizations starting to build out fingerprint files for

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<v Speaker 1>the purposes of identifications. So the idea of using fingerprints

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<v Speaker 1>to uh to ascertain the identity of someone you know

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<v Speaker 1>they've left a fingerprint behind a scene, that had really

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<v Speaker 1>started to take hold by the late nineteenth century, says

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<v Speaker 1>the Sherlock Holmes era. The twentieth century saw a rapid

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<v Speaker 1>development of technology in all different fields. Right, we see

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteen hundreds crazy amounts of innovation in all

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<v Speaker 1>sorts of industries. But that included eventually things like digitizing

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<v Speaker 1>records of fingerprint files, which would allow law enforcement to

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<v Speaker 1>create the automated fingerprint identification system. And now in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, the Department of Homeland Security oversees a database

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<v Speaker 1>containing more than one twenty million people's fingerprints. The FBI

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<v Speaker 1>conducts more than three hundred thousand KORD searches per day

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<v Speaker 1>against more than one forty million computerized fingerprint records. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>some of those are criminals, some of those are civil,

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<v Speaker 1>and so like civil fingerprints, you might have to submit

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<v Speaker 1>for fingerprinting at when getting a a an i D

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<v Speaker 1>like a state issued i D for example in the

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<v Speaker 1>United States. The world's largest database of fingerprint information, not

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<v Speaker 1>just fingerprint but biometric in general, actually belongs to a

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<v Speaker 1>company called the Unique Identification Authority of India. It's really

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<v Speaker 1>more of an organization, I guess I should say so

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<v Speaker 1>that also includes face and biometric records and the goal

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<v Speaker 1>to provide all one point to five billion residents of

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<v Speaker 1>India with the option to record their biometric data for

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<v Speaker 1>the purposes of providing reliable national i D documents. Participation

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<v Speaker 1>in that database, by the way, is voluntary, so they

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<v Speaker 1>aren't forced to submit to this uh In the citizens

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<v Speaker 1>of India can opt into this system for the purposes

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<v Speaker 1>of making it easier to get these kinds of national ideas.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the idea behind fingerprinting. This this concept of

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<v Speaker 1>being able to look at the loops in the worlds

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<v Speaker 1>and the various ridges and to compare them against a

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<v Speaker 1>large database to see if there's a match. There were

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<v Speaker 1>very familiar with that, and like I said, I did

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<v Speaker 1>a full episode. So if you want to learn way

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<v Speaker 1>more about the process of fingerprinting and identification through fingerprinting,

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<v Speaker 1>go through the text of archives. There's an episode just

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<v Speaker 1>about that. So let's move over to ballistics. Now, technically,

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<v Speaker 1>ballistics is the science of projectiles and firearms. Within the

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<v Speaker 1>context of forensics. We tend to use the term ballistics

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the various aspects of an investigation into

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<v Speaker 1>a crime that included a gun being fired at least once,

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<v Speaker 1>and a lot can go into that. One person I

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<v Speaker 1>need to mention is a guy named Henry Goddard, and

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<v Speaker 1>there actually were a couple of Henry Goddard's, So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not talking about the American psychologist who advocated for intelligence

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<v Speaker 1>testing in the early twentieth century. I'm instead talking about

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<v Speaker 1>a nineteenth century member of London's Bow Street Runners. And

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<v Speaker 1>holy cow, this is a group that needs coverage in

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<v Speaker 1>a show like Ridiculous History, not because it's ridiculous, but

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<v Speaker 1>because it is fascinating. This is one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>where I had heard about the Bow Street runners, but

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<v Speaker 1>I hadn't really looked into it. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>if someone comes in to tell me that no, it's

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<v Speaker 1>Bow Street in London and Bow Street not Bow Street,

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<v Speaker 1>I apologize. That's my American ignorance showing through. I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go with Bow Street because that's just how I assumed

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<v Speaker 1>it was pronounced, but I fully admit it could be wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>So quick history lesson. Leading up to the late seventeen hundreds,

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<v Speaker 1>it was customary in London that if you happen to

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<v Speaker 1>be a man, you were expected to participate in the

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<v Speaker 1>policing of your own community. So if you saw a

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<v Speaker 1>crime being commit did you were expected to intervene in

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<v Speaker 1>that crime and apprehend the perpetrator and convict that person.

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<v Speaker 1>You were also expected to send serve time in the

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<v Speaker 1>night watch, which meant that between the hours of say

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<v Speaker 1>eight or nine PM and dawn, you would have to

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<v Speaker 1>patrol streets and make sure that that there were no

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<v Speaker 1>suspicious people lurking about, or that if anyone was seen

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<v Speaker 1>on the streets, that they had a valid reason to

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<v Speaker 1>be out there and they weren't up to no good.

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<v Speaker 1>And a lot of people were starting to get a

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<v Speaker 1>little nervous about this because by the seventeen hundreds you

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<v Speaker 1>had a new class that had formed in London. And

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<v Speaker 1>previously you had the commoners and you had the nobility,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was the way of things in the in

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<v Speaker 1>England for quite some time. Uh and then by the

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<v Speaker 1>Renaissance you were starting to see the rise of the

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<v Speaker 1>middle class, and by the seventeen hundreds you the upper

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<v Speaker 1>middle class. You had people who were wealthy. They weren't noble,

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<v Speaker 1>but they owned a lot of wealth, whereas you had

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<v Speaker 1>nobility that were they had noble titles, but some of

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<v Speaker 1>them weren't very wealthy at all. So this really created

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<v Speaker 1>confusion in England, where for the longest time social status

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<v Speaker 1>was based upon nobility, and nobility tended to bring wealth

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<v Speaker 1>along with it. Anyway, you had these upper class folks

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<v Speaker 1>in London, men who were not terribly keen on the

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<v Speaker 1>idea of having to patrol their city streets and getting

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<v Speaker 1>involved in altercations that could involve violent criminals. You think,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't work so hard to become so successful to

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<v Speaker 1>potentially get my skull caved in by a villain with

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<v Speaker 1>a club. So I'm going to hire someone to go

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<v Speaker 1>in my place, and people started to hire deputies. Well.

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<v Speaker 1>Around the same time, royal proclamations had created a reward

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<v Speaker 1>system for people who helped keep the peace by convicting

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<v Speaker 1>criminals of various crimes, including various thefts, so this gave

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<v Speaker 1>rise to an unofficial occupation called thief taker. Thief takers

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<v Speaker 1>would often not just make money by pursuing convictions of criminals,

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<v Speaker 1>but also essentially selling back stolen property to the rightful owners.

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<v Speaker 1>So they would get money by putting the thief behind

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<v Speaker 1>bars and get more money by selling the stolen property

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<v Speaker 1>back to the person who owned in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>So then you had Henry and John Fielding and they

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<v Speaker 1>had a house on Bow Street. Henry Fielding started to

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<v Speaker 1>pay retainers to men who were either constables or ex

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<v Speaker 1>constables to locate and arrest criminals, particularly violent criminals, and

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<v Speaker 1>if you did that, you were entitled to the reward.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you were one of the members of the

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<v Speaker 1>Bow Street Runners and you apprehended someone, you convicted that

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<v Speaker 1>person of a crime, you would get the reward there

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<v Speaker 1>and the Fieldings hope that what they could do is

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<v Speaker 1>managed this group and rain in any corruption to keep

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<v Speaker 1>things on the level, and they essentially became a private

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<v Speaker 1>police force of sorts, and over time they developed processes

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<v Speaker 1>and procedures that would become the foundation of modern policing

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<v Speaker 1>in many ways. Now, Goddard, who had mentioned before, was

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<v Speaker 1>one of these bow street runners or policemen, and he

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<v Speaker 1>identified a murderer in eighteen thirty five by linking a

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<v Speaker 1>bullet recovered from a victim to the person who made

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<v Speaker 1>the bullet, because in those days most people who owned

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<v Speaker 1>guns made their own bullets. You did this by pouring

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<v Speaker 1>molten lead into a two piece mold, to set it

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<v Speaker 1>into that mold, and then you would, you know, forge

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<v Speaker 1>a bullet. Goddard saw in the bullet, and imperfection that

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<v Speaker 1>he reasoned was from the manufacturing process, which meant the

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<v Speaker 1>mold itself would have evidence of that fault, and if

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<v Speaker 1>you were to mold another bullet with that mold, you

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<v Speaker 1>should be able to replicate the fault in it. So

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<v Speaker 1>Goddard was able to get a confession from the suspect

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<v Speaker 1>and one to convict action. It was only later that

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<v Speaker 1>people pointed out his approach was not necessarily the most scientific,

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<v Speaker 1>as similar molds could have produced a similar looking bullet.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was an early example of ballistics and forensics.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just it wasn't a terribly scientifically solid one. But

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<v Speaker 1>you flash forward a century later and then you have

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<v Speaker 1>Calvin Goddard, but no relation to Henry Goddard, whom I

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<v Speaker 1>just talked about. Calvin Goddard was a scientist, a researcher,

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<v Speaker 1>and a military officer, and in nineteen five he wrote

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<v Speaker 1>an article titled Forensic Ballistics and described using a special

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<v Speaker 1>type of microscope he had created called a comparison microscope

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<v Speaker 1>when examining side by side specimens. Now, essentially a comparison

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<v Speaker 1>microscope is too light. Microscopes connected by an optical bridge.

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<v Speaker 1>So there are two uh ocular lenses, two eye pieces,

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<v Speaker 1>so you look in one with each giant. It looks

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<v Speaker 1>almost like binoculars, excepted some microscope. And it meant that

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<v Speaker 1>you could put a sample under one and a sample

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<v Speaker 1>under the second one, and pair of the two in

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<v Speaker 1>a single view. And he used it to compare bullet

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<v Speaker 1>casings or bullet shells and bullets recovered from crime scenes,

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<v Speaker 1>and by being able to see both a bullet and

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<v Speaker 1>it's casing, he could verify whether or not the bullet

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<v Speaker 1>actually belonged to that casing by the markings. He could

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<v Speaker 1>also if say you had recovered a firearm from a

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<v Speaker 1>suspect and you were wondering if it was the same

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<v Speaker 1>firearm as the one used in a crime, you could

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<v Speaker 1>fire that into a soft target, retrieved the bullets, compare

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<v Speaker 1>them side by side, so uh that would allow you

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<v Speaker 1>to look at them in real time next to each

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<v Speaker 1>other at a microscopic level. Previously, what you would have

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<v Speaker 1>to do is look at one like the actual one

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<v Speaker 1>that was found at the scene of a crime, and

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<v Speaker 1>make note of any indentations or markings on the bullet,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you would look at a second one separately.

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<v Speaker 1>But that men, you had to rely upon your memory

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<v Speaker 1>in part to make this comparison in and memories are faulty,

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<v Speaker 1>so his technology would end up playing a vital role

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<v Speaker 1>in several early twentieth century investigations, including the investigation into

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<v Speaker 1>the infamous St. Valentine's Day massacre. Goddard was able to

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<v Speaker 1>prove that the bullets that were fired in that crime

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<v Speaker 1>did not come from police guns because the men who

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<v Speaker 1>committed the murders were wearing Chicago police uniforms when they

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<v Speaker 1>did it, but they said, well, no, these didn't come

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<v Speaker 1>from the guns that belonged to police officers. Later on

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<v Speaker 1>they were able to discover a gun that belonged to

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<v Speaker 1>a mobster that did match the bullets that were fired

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<v Speaker 1>during the St. Valentine's Day masacre. So it was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the guns used in that terrible, terrible event. They

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<v Speaker 1>were figured out it wasn't vigilante justice at all, it

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<v Speaker 1>was a mob hit. Based upon the evidence, Godard would

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<v Speaker 1>be asked to become the head of the first independent

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<v Speaker 1>forensics science crime Lab, which was at Northwestern University in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen twenty nine. The lab later became known as the

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<v Speaker 1>Scientific Crime Detection Laboratory of h AGO. Very influential lab.

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<v Speaker 1>Now get a lot more to say about forensics science

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<v Speaker 1>and its development over the years, but first let's take

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<v Speaker 1>a quick break to thank our sponsor. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>many things a ballistics expert in forensic studies would look

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<v Speaker 1>at would be those marks left on a bullet after

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<v Speaker 1>it has been fired from a gun. Modern guns have

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<v Speaker 1>rifling in the barrels, which refers to grooves that are

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<v Speaker 1>inside the barrel. They're meant to produce torque on a bullet,

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<v Speaker 1>which forces the bullet to spin as it travels down

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<v Speaker 1>the barrel, and it continues spinning when it emerges because

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<v Speaker 1>a spinning projectile has a much more stable flight path

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<v Speaker 1>due to behaving like a gyroscope. I talked about gyroscopes

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<v Speaker 1>in recent episodes of tech Stuff. Essentially because of the

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<v Speaker 1>conservation of angular momentum and objects spinning around an access

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<v Speaker 1>of rotation resists changes in its orientation, so a spinning

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<v Speaker 1>bullet will remain more true to its flight path. And

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<v Speaker 1>a projectile fired from a smooth bore firearm which has

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<v Speaker 1>no rifling on the inside of its gun barrel, but

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<v Speaker 1>passing down this groove path essentially carves a pattern on

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<v Speaker 1>a bullet. A bullets diameter is slightly larger than the

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<v Speaker 1>board diameter of the barrel it is fired through. The

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<v Speaker 1>bullet is of a softer material, so it will end

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<v Speaker 1>up getting a pattern carved into it as it as

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<v Speaker 1>as it's forced on this barrel at high velocity and

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<v Speaker 1>begins to go into the spin. Investigators can actually count

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<v Speaker 1>the number of grooves or impressions around the circumference of

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<v Speaker 1>the bullet, and by looking down the length of a

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<v Speaker 1>bullet from behind, the investigators can determine the twist direction

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<v Speaker 1>of the rifling grooves inside the barrel, and this part

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<v Speaker 1>of a gun barrel can wear down after use. That

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<v Speaker 1>means that the patterns will end up being unique to

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<v Speaker 1>specific guns. Even if you have two guns that are

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<v Speaker 1>the same make and model, the wear pattern is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be different for both of those so you will

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<v Speaker 1>end up have different patterns actually imparted to the bullets

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<v Speaker 1>fired out of those guns. So if investigators can retrieve

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<v Speaker 1>bullets from a scene, they can potentially match those bullets

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<v Speaker 1>to a specific firearm, assuming they also have possession of

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<v Speaker 1>that firearm to compare the two, or they can use

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<v Speaker 1>the patterns to potentially eliminate firearms that could not have

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<v Speaker 1>produced those patterns. So, like I said before, the way

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<v Speaker 1>you would typically do this is you have the suspect firearm,

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<v Speaker 1>you fired it a few times, and you fire it

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<v Speaker 1>into into a target that will preserve the integrity of

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<v Speaker 1>the bullets. It's not designed to have the bullet break apart.

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<v Speaker 1>So that way you have as good a sample as

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<v Speaker 1>you possibly can. You compare the patterns on that bullet

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<v Speaker 1>to the one that you have retrieved from the crime scene,

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<v Speaker 1>and you look and see if they they are in

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<v Speaker 1>fact similar enough to say they were both fired from

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<v Speaker 1>the same weapon. Uh. Firearms also produced marks on cartridge cases,

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<v Speaker 1>and no two firearms will do so exactly the same way.

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<v Speaker 1>So cartridges will bear markings, they're different from rifling markings.

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<v Speaker 1>They they might have something like a firing pin, Ambrussians,

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<v Speaker 1>breach marks, extractor marks, and dejector marks. Depending upon the

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<v Speaker 1>type of firearm you're talking about, surface characteristics created on

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<v Speaker 1>the firearm itself from use will give it a uniqueness

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<v Speaker 1>that other firearms won't reproduce. That's that where in Taro

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<v Speaker 1>is telling you about um. But firearms also don't change

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<v Speaker 1>super quickly, right. They do wear down over time, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's not super super fast. Even if two are the

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<v Speaker 1>same make and model, you're gonna have slight differences, like

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<v Speaker 1>I said before, But they don't change so fast that

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<v Speaker 1>you have to worry about identifying a gun. Well after

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<v Speaker 1>a crime is committed, let's say that you have retrieved

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<v Speaker 1>a bullet from the case of the crime scene, and

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<v Speaker 1>let's say it's a cold case, like it's the case

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<v Speaker 1>has gone cold and it's essentially shelved. And then later

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<v Speaker 1>on you come across somebody and you're like I like

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<v Speaker 1>this guy for that crime we never solved, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fifteen years ago, and this guy even had a gun

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<v Speaker 1>that would have fired the bullets. It's the same style

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<v Speaker 1>of gun that we suspect fired the bullets that we

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<v Speaker 1>retrieved at that scene. Even though fifteen years have passed.

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<v Speaker 1>You can fire that suspects gun and you can compare

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<v Speaker 1>it against the bullet you retreat from the crime scene,

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<v Speaker 1>and chances are there won't be so much wear and tear.

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<v Speaker 1>Assuming it is the same gun, that you would be

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<v Speaker 1>able to say, oh, it's the exact same firearm. So

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<v Speaker 1>if you fire a gun once and you retreat the bullet,

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<v Speaker 1>then you fire at ninety nine more times and you

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<v Speaker 1>treat the one bullet, there should still be enough similarities

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<v Speaker 1>between bullets one and one hundred for you to say

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<v Speaker 1>they both definitely came from the same gun. In addition

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<v Speaker 1>to studying bullets to determine if they were fired from

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<v Speaker 1>a specific firearm, forensic investigators also examined bullet holes left

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<v Speaker 1>it scenes to figure out where the person firing the

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<v Speaker 1>gun was standing and how tall he or she was.

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<v Speaker 1>Based on the evidence, the shape of a bullet hole

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<v Speaker 1>gives us a lot of information. So some people might say, go,

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<v Speaker 1>bullet holes are gonna be around, Well, that's not true

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<v Speaker 1>unless the person firing the gun is firing at perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>level at a ninety degree angle to whatever the surfaces

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<v Speaker 1>that that ends up being hit by the bullet. Otherwise

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna get an elliptical shape from the bullet hole,

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<v Speaker 1>and that elliptical shape will tell you a lot. It's

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<v Speaker 1>it's angled, it will show that the bullet hit the

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<v Speaker 1>wallet to bias. So you can determine the angle from

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<v Speaker 1>which the bullet entered the wall, and if you have

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<v Speaker 1>a suspect, you can use geometry to determine if that

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<v Speaker 1>suspect could have been responsible. Not necessarily if they did

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<v Speaker 1>or didn't do it, but you can at least say, well,

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<v Speaker 1>is it possible that they did it. This is where

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<v Speaker 1>you look at, say, bullet holes in the wall. You

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<v Speaker 1>determine the angle from where the bullet entered the wall.

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<v Speaker 1>You've figured out where what distance from the wall the

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<v Speaker 1>shooter was, and you say, well, if the shooter was

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<v Speaker 1>five ft ten, this makes sense. But if you start

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<v Speaker 1>getting too short or too tall from that, then it wouldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>The angle doesn't make any that's based upon what we know.

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<v Speaker 1>So let's say that you've got a four ft three

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<v Speaker 1>inch tall suspect. You might say, well, there's no way

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<v Speaker 1>this person is too short for that to have worked

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<v Speaker 1>out the way we believe it did. So that those

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<v Speaker 1>bullet holes can tell you a lot of information, but

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<v Speaker 1>you have to use geometry in order to do it,

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<v Speaker 1>which means I would be really bad at it. I

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<v Speaker 1>was terrible at geometry. It's great at trigonometry, but not

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<v Speaker 1>so much at geometry. Anyway, these days, investigators may use

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<v Speaker 1>advanced technologies like laser scanners to get really precise information

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<v Speaker 1>from a crime scene in order to create a simulation

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<v Speaker 1>to to view things like the angle of fire and

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<v Speaker 1>the distance and that sort of stuff. I'll talk more

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<v Speaker 1>about that in the next episode. However, other science and

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<v Speaker 1>technology that relates to crimes in which a gun was

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<v Speaker 1>fired might include detecting residue from gunshots. By the nineteen seventies,

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<v Speaker 1>scientists started using scanning electron microscopes to do at I

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<v Speaker 1>also talk about scanning electron microscopes in the next episode

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<v Speaker 1>and talk about how those work. It's pretty fascinating stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But forensics goes beyond fingerprints and ballistics in the eighteen thirties,

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<v Speaker 1>there was a chemist named James Marsh who developed a

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<v Speaker 1>chemical test we called the Marsh test and it was

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<v Speaker 1>specifically to detect the presence of arsenic and he developed

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<v Speaker 1>the test after he determined the prevailing methodology was inferior

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<v Speaker 1>after a pretty upsetting incident in his life and all

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<v Speaker 1>had to do with a murder trial. In two there

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<v Speaker 1>was a man who stood accused of having murdered his

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<v Speaker 1>grandfather by poisoning his granddad's coffee with arsenic and James

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<v Speaker 1>Marsh was called upon to do an investigation and present

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<v Speaker 1>his findings to court, and he was meant to test

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<v Speaker 1>the coffee for arsenic. Now, the standard at the time

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<v Speaker 1>was that you would pass hydrogen sulfide through a sample

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<v Speaker 1>fluid and that would create a reaction that would release hydrogen.

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<v Speaker 1>The hydrogen would carry particles of arsenic as it bubbled

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<v Speaker 1>up through the sample. And it's in gas form, so

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<v Speaker 1>it passes through you know it'll it would just dissipate

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<v Speaker 1>if you didn't have anything else attached to it. But

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<v Speaker 1>you would have your your device set up so that

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<v Speaker 1>the gas is passing through a line like a glass

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<v Speaker 1>tube for example, and you would heat the tube, and

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<v Speaker 1>you would also burn off the hydrogen as it came

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<v Speaker 1>out the other end of the two and traces of

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<v Speaker 1>arsenic would remain as a precipitate that would be collected

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<v Speaker 1>and you could use it what they would call an

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<v Speaker 1>arsenic mirror and create the sort of blackish uh finish

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<v Speaker 1>on a surface. But the problem was it wouldn't keep indefinitely.

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<v Speaker 1>So Marsh conducts this test. He detects arsenic in the coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>but by the time he was called to present to

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<v Speaker 1>the jury, the evidence he had collected had deteriorated, and

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<v Speaker 1>it deterior to the point where the jury didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>the evidence, so they suspect was ultimately released of charges,

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<v Speaker 1>and Marsh figured there had to be a better way,

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<v Speaker 1>so he developed what we now call the Marsh test,

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<v Speaker 1>and he stuck with a chemical reaction approach. He experimented,

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<v Speaker 1>and he found that if he combined a sample that

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<v Speaker 1>had arsenic in it and he put that in with

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<v Speaker 1>some zinc that had no arsenic in it at all,

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<v Speaker 1>arsenic free zinc, and then added sulfuric acid, it would

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<v Speaker 1>create arsene gas, and burning off that gas would produce

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<v Speaker 1>pure metallic arsenic and if that were to come in

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<v Speaker 1>contact with a cold surface, it would leave behind a

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<v Speaker 1>silvery black coating. And it was a sensitive enough test

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<v Speaker 1>that could detect quantities of arsenic as small as one

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<v Speaker 1>of a milligram, which is pretty nifty. Now, if there

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<v Speaker 1>were no arsenic in the sample, you wouldn't produce this gas,

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<v Speaker 1>so you wouldn't have that silvery residue. So chemical analysis

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<v Speaker 1>is another important part of ensics science, and arsenic is

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<v Speaker 1>just one of dozens of different chemicals investigators might have

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<v Speaker 1>to search for at a crime scene. Another important element

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<v Speaker 1>in forensics has to do with blood. Clearly, that becomes

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<v Speaker 1>a very important element in investigations. During the nineteenth century,

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<v Speaker 1>Dr Ludwig Carl Tichman developed a test to determine if

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<v Speaker 1>a stain actually was dried blood or maybe it's mud

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<v Speaker 1>or something else. And this is a test we call

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<v Speaker 1>the Tychman test. Tend to name things after the people

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<v Speaker 1>who proposed them. So Dr Tychman researched how organic compounds

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<v Speaker 1>contained in human blood could crystallize. One of those compounds

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<v Speaker 1>is called human and so Tychman developed a test in

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<v Speaker 1>which he used a strong acetic acid, which is present

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<v Speaker 1>in stuff like vinegar, for example, and you combine that

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<v Speaker 1>with dried blood, and that would form human crystals. The

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<v Speaker 1>reaction between the to acid and the blood would make

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<v Speaker 1>these Heman crystals form. So if you're investigating a crime

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<v Speaker 1>and you see some stains that could be dried blood,

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<v Speaker 1>but you're not sure, you could use the Tykeman test

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<v Speaker 1>and confirm that suspicion. It doesn't tell you what type

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<v Speaker 1>of blood it is, it doesn't let you classify it

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<v Speaker 1>in any way, but it would let you at least

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<v Speaker 1>verify that in fact, the stain you're looking at is

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<v Speaker 1>composed at least in part by blood. So if no

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<v Speaker 1>Heman crystals formed as a result, you could disregard the

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<v Speaker 1>stain and just say, well, I don't know what it is,

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<v Speaker 1>but it sure ain't blood. In nineteen o one, and

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<v Speaker 1>Austrian scientists named Carl Lnsteiner was studying blood and why

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes when blood from one individual would be given to

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<v Speaker 1>another individual, the blood would clump together in a process

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<v Speaker 1>called a glutination. The clumping could create toxic reactions, which

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<v Speaker 1>made transfusions really dangerous, and physicians have been practicing transfusions

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<v Speaker 1>for quite some time, but no one was really sure

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<v Speaker 1>up to that point why some transfusions seem to work

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<v Speaker 1>and other transfusions would lead to pretty nasty outcomes, sometimes death.

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<v Speaker 1>Landstein Are discovered that the clumping was an immunological reaction,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was when the receiver of a blood transfusion

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<v Speaker 1>has antibodies against components inside the donor blood, and that

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<v Speaker 1>led to the discovery of different protein molecules within different

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<v Speaker 1>types of blood and ultimately lead to classifying blood into

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<v Speaker 1>groups such as A, B, A B, and OH. So,

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<v Speaker 1>if you have type A blood, you have A antigens

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<v Speaker 1>and BE antibodies, meaning you can accept A blood, but

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<v Speaker 1>you cannot accept BE blood because you would react very

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<v Speaker 1>poorly to that. Um BE blood is the opposite. You

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<v Speaker 1>have BE antigens and A antibodies, and then A B.

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<v Speaker 1>You have both A and B engines and antibodies. You're

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<v Speaker 1>You're the universal received You can receive blood from any donor,

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<v Speaker 1>and then type OH you lack the antigens and antibodies.

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<v Speaker 1>You're the universal donor. Or. You really you don't have

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<v Speaker 1>the antigen so you don't have to worry about uh. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're an donor, you can donate blood to anyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyone can accept oh blood, though you can only accept

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<v Speaker 1>OH blood in return fun times. Lensteiner would win a

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<v Speaker 1>Nobel Prize in nineteen thirty for his work, and forensic

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<v Speaker 1>scientists had a new way to examine blood to help

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<v Speaker 1>them narrow down suspects or differentiate between a victim's blood

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<v Speaker 1>and the blood of a suspect. Up to that point,

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<v Speaker 1>you couldn't be sure. You might come up on a

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<v Speaker 1>crime scene and it might be blood on the crime scene,

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<v Speaker 1>but you don't know how much of that belonged to

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<v Speaker 1>the victim, and and if what if any of it

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<v Speaker 1>belonged to someone else. This allowed for testing of different proteins,

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<v Speaker 1>which would tell you, oh, this is a type A

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<v Speaker 1>versus type B, and would tell you if more than

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<v Speaker 1>one person's blood were present at a crime scene. So

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<v Speaker 1>very a useful, especially later on when you are looking

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<v Speaker 1>up potentially identifying someone, although keep in mind the percentages

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<v Speaker 1>of people with specific types of blood are such that

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<v Speaker 1>you can't narrow it down to a specific individual. Just

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<v Speaker 1>because a person might have the same blood type as

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<v Speaker 1>blood found at the scene of a crime doesn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>mean that the blood came from that person, because lots

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<v Speaker 1>of people have those blood types it would take more

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<v Speaker 1>specific evidence to be able to narrow that down. I'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk more about that in a second, but first let's

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<v Speaker 1>take another quick break to thank our sponsor. In h

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<v Speaker 1>o Albrecht was experimenting with a chemical called luminol, a

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<v Speaker 1>luminescent chemical, and he was experimenting with it in a

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<v Speaker 1>solution of hydrogen peroxide, and he discovered that blood would

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<v Speaker 1>increase the luminescence of luminol, which means it would it

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<v Speaker 1>would cause the luminol to glow brighter. Later, other scientists

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<v Speaker 1>determined that hematin, a pigment in blood that contains iron

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<v Speaker 1>in it, was reacting with this luminol chemically and that

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<v Speaker 1>chemical reaction was creating this brighter luminescence, and that became

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<v Speaker 1>useful in forensic investigations when investigators were looking for trace

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<v Speaker 1>amounts of blood at a scene it may not be

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<v Speaker 1>easily visible, or maybe that someone tried to clean it up,

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<v Speaker 1>because luminol can actually detect those trace evidence leavings of

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<v Speaker 1>blood even if someone tried to clean stuff up. It

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<v Speaker 1>does require making the crime scene as dark as possible

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<v Speaker 1>so you can detect the luminescence and the glow lasts

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<v Speaker 1>for less than a minute. But if you do a

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<v Speaker 1>quick spritzing of luminol and hydrogen peroxide as a solution

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<v Speaker 1>against the same spot, it will glow again. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>exhaust the supply of iron necessarily on one spritzing, so uh,

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<v Speaker 1>if you see a glow, you can reapply LIE. By

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<v Speaker 1>the nineteen eighties, scientists were starting to develop practical tests

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<v Speaker 1>that could analyze DNA for the purposes of forensic tests.

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<v Speaker 1>And DNA is d ox a ribonucleic acid, which is

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<v Speaker 1>the carrier of genetic information. I'm pretty sure you all

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<v Speaker 1>are familiar with that, but it always is good to

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of jump on that again. DNA contains the

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<v Speaker 1>fundamental genetic identifiers that can be of crucial importance in

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<v Speaker 1>an investigation. Now, most of your DNA matches my DNA,

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<v Speaker 1>or the person in closest proximity to you, or the

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<v Speaker 1>person most far away from you possible. We share an

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<v Speaker 1>enormous amount of common DNA. The differences between individuals between

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<v Speaker 1>humans are carried by about three million bases in our DNA.

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<v Speaker 1>That that's equivalent to about one tenth of one per

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<v Speaker 1>cent of all our DNA. So the vast majority of

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<v Speaker 1>our DNA is identical to each other. It's only that

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<v Speaker 1>one tenth of one percent that makes you you, which

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<v Speaker 1>is kind of cool and and interesting. Those differences can

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<v Speaker 1>help eliminate a suspect from an investigation, or it can

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<v Speaker 1>help support a case for investigating the matter further if

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<v Speaker 1>there's a match. DNA comes from organic material like blood

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<v Speaker 1>or body fluids, from skin, from hair, stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>The development of polymerase chain reaction or PCR techniques helped

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<v Speaker 1>with DNA investigations a lot. PCR is a method for

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<v Speaker 1>copying specific DNA regions in vitro that means in a

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<v Speaker 1>test too, as opposed to in an organism. PCR is

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<v Speaker 1>used for lots of different stuff, not just forensic investigations

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<v Speaker 1>because it allows you to copy and duplicate DNA, but

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<v Speaker 1>in forensics it can be used to make copies of

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<v Speaker 1>sample DNA for analysis to compare DNA gathered at a

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<v Speaker 1>crime scene with DNA from like a suspect. Some crime

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<v Speaker 1>scenes may only have small samples of DNA that you

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<v Speaker 1>can work with, so it's important to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>duplicate that DNA in order for you to have enough

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<v Speaker 1>of a sample size to run your various analyzes. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen nine, DNA evidence was used to exonerate a man

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<v Speaker 1>named Gary Dotson who had been convicted of rape in

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<v Speaker 1>the late nineteen seventies. Kathleen Crowell, who was the presumed

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<v Speaker 1>victim of this crime, ended up later saying she had

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<v Speaker 1>actually made up a story about being raped. What had

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<v Speaker 1>happened was that she and her boyfriend had engaged in

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<v Speaker 1>consensual sex, but she was worried that she might end

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<v Speaker 1>up pregnant, and she was terrified of what that would mean.

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<v Speaker 1>She was a teenager at the time. She was scared

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<v Speaker 1>about how her parents and community would react, and preemptively

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<v Speaker 1>she made the claim that she had been assaulted by

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<v Speaker 1>a group of three men and raped by one of them,

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<v Speaker 1>and she just made it up entirely. Uh. She was

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<v Speaker 1>brought in to the police station to talk to police

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<v Speaker 1>officers who wanted to get a sketch artist there to

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<v Speaker 1>get a sketch of her, her presumed attacker, and so

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<v Speaker 1>she started making up a description. The description she made

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<v Speaker 1>up happened to kind of resemble someone who was in

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<v Speaker 1>a collection of mug shots at that police station, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was a guy named Gary Dotson who had run

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<v Speaker 1>a follow the law previously, but she had made this

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<v Speaker 1>whole story up. It's just so happened that the person

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<v Speaker 1>that she was describing happened to look like this guy now.

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<v Speaker 1>According to Crowell, the police pressured her into identifying Dotson

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<v Speaker 1>as her rapist, and she was still scared of telling

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<v Speaker 1>the truth to anyone, so she went along with it.

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<v Speaker 1>Dotson would end up being tried and convicted of rape

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<v Speaker 1>and sent to prison, and Krowell would later recant her accusation.

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<v Speaker 1>In five she said she was overcome with guilt about

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<v Speaker 1>what she had done to him and that she had

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<v Speaker 1>decided that it was enough was enough, she had to

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<v Speaker 1>come forward and tell the truth. And prosecutors weren't too

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<v Speaker 1>eager to do that. They I guess partly were worried

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<v Speaker 1>that it was going to reflect really poorly on them.

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<v Speaker 1>The trial had included testimony from various forensics experts, and

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<v Speaker 1>it would mean that they were either fabricating evidence or

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<v Speaker 1>very much misidentifying things, and that it was going to

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<v Speaker 1>look terrible to them. So anyway, a judge ended up

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<v Speaker 1>releasing Dotson on a one hundred thousand dollar bond, but

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<v Speaker 1>Dotson wasn't truly exonerated until DNA tests in nineteen nine

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<v Speaker 1>proved that he wasn't involved. So, in other words, his

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<v Speaker 1>accuser had come back up and said, I made it

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<v Speaker 1>all up. He didn't do anything to me. I was scared,

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<v Speaker 1>and I came up with this story that I thought

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<v Speaker 1>was going to help things. I did not intend for

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<v Speaker 1>this to happen. And some of the legal community dismissed

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<v Speaker 1>her statement. They said, oh, she's unstable, she's you can't

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<v Speaker 1>rely upon her statements. And it wasn't until the DNA

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<v Speaker 1>evidence came out that said Dodson could not have been

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<v Speaker 1>the person that was accused of this crime because his

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<v Speaker 1>DNA did not match the DNA that was gathered in

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<v Speaker 1>the wake of her accusation. The whole story, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>goes into way more crazy detail and and there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot more twists and turns and a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>tragedy involved in it as well. It's sad, it's an

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<v Speaker 1>infuriating story. There's an excellent treatment of the story over

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<v Speaker 1>at Northwestern University's Prints Care School of Law website. It

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<v Speaker 1>has the title first DNA Exoneration. So if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to read all about it, and it is an exhaustive account, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you should check that out, because it is fascinating as

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<v Speaker 1>well as upsetting. The emergence of DNA led to the

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<v Speaker 1>development of quality control guidelines for DNA labs and forensic investigators.

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<v Speaker 1>It became clear that in order to make effective use

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<v Speaker 1>of this information, of this knowledge of DNA, they had

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure they created very straightforward, very uh standardized

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<v Speaker 1>approaches to to reduce the possibility of destroying or altering evidence,

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<v Speaker 1>either by accident or on purpose. You know, do something

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<v Speaker 1>where you can document it step by step by steps

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<v Speaker 1>so people can make certain that you did everything correctly,

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<v Speaker 1>so that your conclusions can be seen as valid. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>while these sciences, sciences and processes were developing, police forces

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<v Speaker 1>and other law enforcement agencies were actually working to formalize

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<v Speaker 1>the development and deployment of investigations. How do you teach

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<v Speaker 1>investigators these these processes, Because a lot of them were

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<v Speaker 1>developed independently, they are being made use in specific police forces,

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<v Speaker 1>but they weren't necessarily shared. How did that come about? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>in the nineteenth century, if you were in the eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds and you were a forensic researcher, you were connected

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<v Speaker 1>to some sort of law enforcement group, whether private or public.

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<v Speaker 1>You were a auntly self taught. You got hold of

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<v Speaker 1>whatever information you could find and you would study it

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<v Speaker 1>or you would develop your own ideas in your own processes.

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<v Speaker 1>It was very informal. One of the earliest formal schools

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<v Speaker 1>in forensics was created by a guy named Rudolph Archibald Rice.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a professor at the University of a Lausan, Switzerland.

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<v Speaker 1>He had studied chemistry. At that university, he earned a

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<v Speaker 1>doctorate in the field, and he began turning his scientific

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<v Speaker 1>mind towards criminal investigation. He studied the discoveries of other criminologists,

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<v Speaker 1>and in nineteen o nine he founded the Institute of

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<v Speaker 1>Scientific Police. Other universities in Europe began to found their

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<v Speaker 1>own forensic studies curricula, but then you had World War

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<v Speaker 1>One and World War Two, and that wiped out a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of those efforts. The Institute of Scientific Police survived

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<v Speaker 1>the two World Wars because Switzerland was neutral in both

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<v Speaker 1>of those. Today this school has a different name. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called the School of Criminal Sciences. The same organization, new name,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, obviously updated with the more modern approaches. Rice

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<v Speaker 1>in his time would actually publish a book about investigative

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<v Speaker 1>techniques used in the event of burglaries and homicides, and

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<v Speaker 1>he had planned future volumes to cover other types of

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<v Speaker 1>crimes like counterfeiting, as well as other police matters like

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<v Speaker 1>organizing a police force, but he ended up putting all

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<v Speaker 1>of that on hold. The Serbian government requested his assistance

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<v Speaker 1>to investigate war crimes committed by the armies of Austria

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<v Speaker 1>Hungary during the Serbian War, and so he never finished

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<v Speaker 1>those books. In An American named August Volmer, who was

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<v Speaker 1>chief of police in Los Angeles, California, founded the first

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<v Speaker 1>American police crime laboratory, which actually predated the FBI's crime

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<v Speaker 1>lab by eight years. The FBI was formed in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>o eight, but it would not have its own crime

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<v Speaker 1>lab till nineteen thirty two. It was the early nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>thirties when colleges and universities began offering degrees in police

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<v Speaker 1>sciences and minalistics, and in nineteen fifty the University of

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<v Speaker 1>California at Berkeley created an early department of Criminology over

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<v Speaker 1>in Chicago. Around that same time, academics founded the American

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<v Speaker 1>Academy of Forensic Science, and today there are numerous colleges

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<v Speaker 1>that offer coursework and forensic science. There are labs dedicated

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<v Speaker 1>to the purpose of applying the scientific method when it

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<v Speaker 1>comes to the investigation of crime, and there are companies

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<v Speaker 1>that produce technology with the primary purpose of aiding in

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<v Speaker 1>criminal investigations. And in our next episode, I will take

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<v Speaker 1>a closer look at some of those actual technologies, some

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<v Speaker 1>really cool ones, though they may not be exactly the

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