Speaker 1: I've heard that there's a house that has some bodies
Speaker 1: in the basement.
Speaker 2: Somebody told you that Shakaia was a victim of human trafficking.
Speaker 1: I'm come to find out. This is like it exploded
Speaker 1: into this huge thing.
Speaker 2: I knew, I just knew something was wrong.
Speaker 1: Police say thirty three year old Jared Bride Again was
Speaker 1: shot dead.
Speaker 2: I kept calling his phone during the drive.
Speaker 1: Gunned down in front of his two year old daughter.
Speaker 1: It's a murder of the stun Jack Speach neighbors.
Speaker 2: His murder has attracted national attention, with the investigators saying
Speaker 2: he was targeted.
Speaker 1: Eventually a police officer answered and told me to come
Speaker 1: to the police station.
Speaker 3: Justice is something that takes different shapes or forms.
Speaker 2: If you know something, heard something, please it's never too
Speaker 2: late to do the right thing.
Speaker 1: So I'm Dana Thompson aka Body Movin, and.
Speaker 3: I'm John Green.
Speaker 4: For about a decade, Deanna and I spent a lot
Speaker 4: of time on the Internet, especially in the underbelly of
Speaker 4: the Internet, trying to identify and get animal abusers arrested.
Speaker 1: We spent countless hours scouring the dark web helping catch predators.
Speaker 1: We spent over a year and a half trying to
Speaker 1: get law enforcement to take us seriously about a man
Speaker 1: that was killing cats online and he was threatening to
Speaker 1: move on to kill humans. And that was Luca mcnatdah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you might have heard about the Netflix special called
Speaker 4: Don't Fuck with Cats.
Speaker 1: That's us. Well, now we're turning our online investigator skills
Speaker 1: to some of the most unexplained, unsolved, and just ignored cases.
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Speaker 3: The last time we had an opportunity to speak with
Speaker 3: forensic analysts Joseph Scott Morgan. He walked us both through
Speaker 3: the ins and out of the likely evidence collected at
Speaker 3: Jared's murder scene. It's a bit overwhelming. But now it's
Speaker 3: time to check in with our Florida based investigator, Chris Salgado.
Speaker 1: Chris has been looking at a Jared's x y Shana
Speaker 1: and her husband Mario. Let's see what he's found.
Speaker 2: Chris. Last time we spoke with you, we kind of
Speaker 2: went over the Jared Bradigan case and went over the
Speaker 2: details of the case and kind of some theories and
Speaker 2: some information that Dan and I had come across, and
Speaker 2: we needed your help as a private investigator get some
Speaker 2: information that she and I couldn't find, and some of
Speaker 2: that might be because it's too soon. So one of
Speaker 2: the things we were looking for is if somebody moves,
Speaker 2: how soon will the new records be reflected that we
Speaker 2: can see somebody and find them where they're at now.
Speaker 2: So since we saw you last hour, I spoke to
Speaker 2: you last time. We asked you to run a report
Speaker 2: for us. Were you able to do that?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: I was.
Speaker 5: I was able to run up some couple of reports
Speaker 5: and fire off that information to you both.
Speaker 2: Great for the listeners. Dan and I were doing a
Speaker 2: little research on a.
Speaker 6: House in Jacksonville Beach that looks like it was put
Speaker 6: up for sale in mid October. We were trying to
Speaker 6: see if somebody was still living in the state of Florida.
Speaker 6: This was our first chance to look at the report. Okay,
Speaker 6: now we have kind.
Speaker 2: Of heard something through the great Brian. I guess you
Speaker 2: could say.
Speaker 1: I got a message from someone saying that the kids
Speaker 1: were moving to a specific state. They were telling their
Speaker 1: friends they're moving to a specific state. So I got
Speaker 1: a message from someone asking me can we find them
Speaker 1: in that state. I did record searches on like voter
Speaker 1: records and things like that, and everything still pointed to Florida.
Speaker 1: But because they only moved in October to wherever they
Speaker 1: moved to, then you know, I figured, well, maybe it's
Speaker 1: just too soon to have those records reflected, you know, correct.
Speaker 2: So I think what we're looking at here kind of
Speaker 2: agrees with what we've been told.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go through this. So we got a
Speaker 1: report now on Shana and Mario, but we're not gonna
Speaker 1: we're not going to give too any details because we're
Speaker 1: not going to dock this person on the air. Right. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So what I want to know is did they move
Speaker 1: to this specific state? And the first first note on
Speaker 1: this report is they have an address in this state.
Speaker 1: And then I have the address and the address is
Speaker 1: linked to a specific company. The deed was transferred in September.
Speaker 2: Hold on, I'm doing my thing and going on Google Map.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you do your thing. I'm going to do mine
Speaker 1: real quick.
Speaker 2: I'm just looking at the area. I understand, and then
Speaker 2: I'm going to do my next thing is verify when
Speaker 2: that house it's sold. Robot.
Speaker 7: Okay, it wasn't difficult to get the information. The more
Speaker 7: difficult part is going to be analyzing the information, because
Speaker 7: you've got to remember a lot of times when we investigate,
Speaker 7: it's not a lack of information, but it's an analysis
Speaker 7: of all the large amounts of information data points that
Speaker 7: we get to really understand what is relevant, what's misinformation
Speaker 7: or frankly just wrong, and what's really relevant for the
Speaker 7: focus at hand.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So the address that I'm looking at shows that property
Speaker 2: with sold late September.
Speaker 1: The address that we just got, Yeah.
Speaker 2: One of the address that I'm looking at.
Speaker 1: Yeah, September twenty sixth is when the property was transferred.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then a couple of weeks later in October,
Speaker 2: they put the house in Florida up for.
Speaker 1: So they put the house up October twenty seventh is
Speaker 1: when it was listed on solo.
Speaker 2: So this is within a month, within a month of
Speaker 2: this house being purchased in another state, the house in
Speaker 2: Florida is put up for sale. Right, So one of
Speaker 2: the things that we know that they had done at
Speaker 2: one point in time that started like a property management company.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we use it all right, Ena.
Speaker 2: Yep, I don't think this is related to that. Interesting, Yeah,
Speaker 2: so this all this all fits together. I would say
Speaker 2: all these pieces Fick together, you buy a house, you
Speaker 2: put your old house up for sale. Yeah, yeah, wow,
Speaker 2: I want to see prices.
Speaker 5: So that's listed as a current address to the individual
Speaker 5: for and I think it's something pretty interesting. So it
Speaker 5: looks like it's listed as a current address as of
Speaker 5: mid December. But the transfer of what you're talking about,
Speaker 5: like you folks said, happened in late September to a company, right,
Speaker 5: and that company falls into the background of the context
Speaker 5: of the situation. Let me pull that up here.
Speaker 2: But it looks like the property, just the land itself,
Speaker 2: was purchased at the beginning of this year, and then
Speaker 2: house is built on it and then purchased. Well, it
Speaker 2: looks like the hunt was right or yeah, what she
Speaker 2: heard was right? Right?
Speaker 1: Where's the city at Is it closer to COMADL.
Speaker 2: No, it's about two hundred and twenty miles inland from Tacoma.
Speaker 2: I mean it's very very rule area. So I think
Speaker 2: the takeaway from this fianna is is that the hunch
Speaker 2: that somebody had or heard it sounds like actually happened, right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But where's where's her husband?
Speaker 2: I guess it's the million dollar question that we're able
Speaker 2: to get much information on him christ new husband.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I was. I'll go ahead and send that
Speaker 5: off to you guys with was able to pull some
Speaker 5: new information on them. It's behind the company and there's
Speaker 5: a lot of there's a lot of different companies affiliated
Speaker 5: with the certainly property management companies, there's a whole lot
Speaker 5: of them. You guys have kind of tip of the
Speaker 5: results here, and in the same email that I sent
Speaker 5: you folks, it has the new address for the other
Speaker 5: individual there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but the thing is that she's on one end
Speaker 2: of the country and he's on the other end of
Speaker 2: the country. That that's the takeaway from this, Deanna, and
Speaker 2: the question is his wife? So Deanna and I had
Speaker 2: a really good conversation.
Speaker 1: With Joseph Joseph Scott Morgan.
Speaker 2: As a forensics guy, and we were talking about what
Speaker 2: type of witness, what kind of testimony is made in court,
Speaker 2: and I witness testimony. Unfortunately in this case, it's only
Speaker 2: the two year old daughter, which she'll probably never be
Speaker 2: called to stand. All she remembers is bang bang bang
Speaker 2: and seeing daddy Lane on the ground. I don't think
Speaker 2: she saw the shooter, so that then relies on evidence
Speaker 2: left at the scene. So I was thinking about it. Dianna,
Speaker 2: after that conversation yesterday, said, well, there's one other way,
Speaker 2: and that's a confession. Somebody would confess to it. And
Speaker 2: so the fact that she's on one side of the
Speaker 2: country and he may be staying at the other end
Speaker 2: of the country is kind of telling. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2: the going theory people on the internet believe that, you know,
Speaker 2: the ex wife is responsible for his death, and a
Speaker 2: lot of people believe that her current husband may have
Speaker 2: something to do with it or he knows information about it.
Speaker 2: Right m h. So you would think you would, you know,
Speaker 2: unless the marriage were really bad, you would stay together.
Speaker 2: And you know, if possibly you were somehow connected to
Speaker 2: what happened to Jared, you would stay together. So I
Speaker 2: just it just seems odd that he's on one end
Speaker 2: of the country and she's on the other coast.
Speaker 3: Let's stop here for a break. We'll be back in
Speaker 3: a moment.
Speaker 1: Do you want me to give you a theory? Go okay,
Speaker 1: I don't think she has anything to do with it.
Speaker 1: I don't think she knows about it. I don't think
Speaker 1: this is just okay? Can j sure? I don't think
Speaker 1: she knows about it. I don't think she had anything
Speaker 1: to do with it, but I think her circle does.
Speaker 1: Right now, who that person is I don't know yet,
Speaker 1: But let's pretend for a moment that it's her husband,
Speaker 1: that he hired some guy like his first time kind
Speaker 1: of hit job, right, hypothetically for five grand Let's just
Speaker 1: say this is all hypothetical. Well, I mean, how stupid
Speaker 1: would you have to be to kill your ex husband
Speaker 1: two miles from your home? Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: How stupid would you have to be to do that?
Speaker 1: You're in this contentious custody battle. This makes you suspect
Speaker 1: number one, and you know this, You're not stupid, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: but if you don't have any if you have like
Speaker 1: plausible deniability, then I mean, then your innocent an alibi,
Speaker 1: You have an alibi you've been you're at home with
Speaker 1: the kids. Then okay. Now she might suspect him, right,
Speaker 1: she might suspect that he had something to do with this,
Speaker 1: And they've been fighting about it, and it's been causing resentment,
Speaker 1: and it's been causing this undercurrent of disdain amongst them.
Speaker 1: She tells, Mom, I can't I can't be with this
Speaker 1: guy anymore, Like we're just so different and I've outgrown
Speaker 1: him and blah blah blah blah. Mom, I'll take care
Speaker 1: of it. We'll get this handled. A month before they
Speaker 1: start moving, remember, a month before they start moving, Mom
Speaker 1: and dad, through this company, purchased this house in Washington. Yeah,
Speaker 1: she goes to her husband, I'm leaving you, and you're
Speaker 1: not coming with me. I'm moving. I'm moving as far
Speaker 1: away from this as I It's too painful for me
Speaker 1: to be here anymore. I mean, this is just me
Speaker 1: guessing at this point.
Speaker 2: I mean that is a huge difference.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but why would he stay? If let's pretend he's
Speaker 1: guilty of something, why would he stay? Is he allowed
Speaker 1: to leave Florida? Now? The company that he owns with her,
Speaker 1: he's the primary worker there. And she did an interview
Speaker 1: and she said, my husband runs this company, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it is registered in the state of Florida. But that
Speaker 1: doesn't mean he has to live there, right. But if
Speaker 1: his rentals are in Florida, then you know he would
Speaker 1: stay there.
Speaker 2: All right, I'm giving a little digging while.
Speaker 1: We're No, no, I'm just talking. I'm just talking.
Speaker 2: No, I hear you.
Speaker 1: But I mean, seriously, think about it. How stupid would
Speaker 1: you have to be to kill your husband, who everybody
Speaker 1: knows you basically hate, right, That's that's a strong word,
Speaker 1: but you basically hate him.
Speaker 2: You have animosity, right, And at one point in time
Speaker 2: you told somebody at a tattoo poll or you wish
Speaker 2: somebody some way to shut him up. Yep, again, this
Speaker 2: is all hypothetical.
Speaker 1: Allegedly, and in any situation that this has been brought up,
Speaker 1: I have defended this woman and you have to and
Speaker 1: we're the only ones doing that. Are we nuts? I mean?
Speaker 1: Are we missing something?
Speaker 2: Well? I think the thing is is is who has
Speaker 2: motive in this right?
Speaker 1: Who has clearly?
Speaker 2: Bono?
Speaker 1: Who let's talk about that. You're right because her moving
Speaker 1: seven months after his murder is kind of like because
Speaker 1: one of the things that people have been saying is
Speaker 1: that maybe she wanted to move out of state, and
Speaker 1: Jared said, no, you're not taking my kids out of state.
Speaker 1: Florida is their home. You're not leaving Florida.
Speaker 2: You're not going to take my kids. You're not taking
Speaker 2: my kids as the country, right.
Speaker 1: Right, And sure that's the reason. That's a that that
Speaker 1: could be a motive for.
Speaker 2: Sure, But I think I think that's why a lot
Speaker 2: of people that at first don't get reaction, is she
Speaker 2: had something to do with it because she would have
Speaker 2: benefited by getting that's wife would have gotten the full
Speaker 2: custody of the kids. So I mean, for sure, now
Speaker 2: that may be true, but that doesn't mean she she
Speaker 2: actually committed the act.
Speaker 1: So I think anything's possible. Anything is possible.
Speaker 2: One thing actually popped into my head recently was the date.
Speaker 2: So February happened to Jarrett right, correct, and what happened
Speaker 2: two days before February?
Speaker 1: Yeah, It's just what does that have to do with anything?
Speaker 2: You know, after glove, you do something out of love.
Speaker 2: If you love me, you'll do this for me. Oh,
Speaker 2: I mean that's that's you know that doesn't. It just
Speaker 2: popped into my head recently when I was just kind
Speaker 2: of doing the timeline of things, like well, wait a minute,
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day was two days before, and so it just
Speaker 2: kind of struck me odd that maybe it was like,
Speaker 2: you know, if you love me, you'll do this for me.
Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm just that's a really good, really
Speaker 1: good point.
Speaker 2: Does it sound like the ex wife is somebody who
Speaker 2: would say something like that. I mean, based on what
Speaker 2: we don't know about I wish She goes to a
Speaker 2: tattoo poller and says, I wish somebody would there was
Speaker 2: a way to make them to shut up.
Speaker 5: You know what you gave me a couple of links.
Speaker 2: One was to map, one was to.
Speaker 5: Repository of information. Maybe I can highlight in there, you
Speaker 5: know what's corroborated from my end, specific points. Now everything
Speaker 5: but specific points, and then you guys can pick it
Speaker 5: up from there and I can email you saying, hey,
Speaker 5: take a look at the spreadsheet and you know that's.
Speaker 2: More information for you.
Speaker 5: Depending on how intricate this this is on this this
Speaker 5: idea of this hypothesis, right, depending on how intricate it
Speaker 5: is or was, you know, somebody could be using talk.
Speaker 2: With walkie talking Again. Part of me thinks, man, it
Speaker 2: was a very professional and there's other aspects of this crime.
Speaker 2: You think it was kind of amateur the way they
Speaker 2: did it. A professional wouldn't have done that, right, So yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: So getting back to the report, is there anything else
Speaker 2: we need? I think that answers our big question about
Speaker 2: you know, did she leave the state of Florida, And
Speaker 2: now we know for sure, And it kind of goes
Speaker 2: with what we were told, So I think I verifies it.
Speaker 2: Now the question is that why did you go all
Speaker 2: the way across the country.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's that we need to figure out.
Speaker 2: Right, Well, Chris, thank you very very much. That was
Speaker 2: exactly what we were looking for.
Speaker 1: I think John and I just kind of want to
Speaker 1: know if they've got I'm sure they do, but what
Speaker 1: kind of evidence they have that they're not releasing and
Speaker 1: not that not that anything that we find is going
Speaker 1: to like break the case wide open, sure, but just
Speaker 1: for just for theory wise, you know, like do they
Speaker 1: have a piece of evidence that they haven't released to
Speaker 1: the public that they're holding on to that's like key
Speaker 1: in this case, and a footprint would be one of
Speaker 1: those things.
Speaker 5: Definitely, And that's that's a lot of times that's the
Speaker 5: frustration piece inside an ongoing investigation. But we all know,
Speaker 5: you know, law enforcement does a very good job at
Speaker 5: running down all the leaves that they possibly can, and
Speaker 5: you know, trying to keep things close to their chest
Speaker 5: because they don't want to unfurl information where it's low
Speaker 5: premature and it sits off the perspective of tender or
Speaker 5: the targeted person by law enforcement. Right, So you know,
Speaker 5: we're kind of the public in general is kind of
Speaker 5: left in the dark with what's going on. What evidence
Speaker 5: do they have, what tactics have they done, did they
Speaker 5: do a tower dump, did they do did they find
Speaker 5: a shoeprint like you're saying there, you know, and all
Speaker 5: that's kind of TVD until they, you know, they find
Speaker 5: they find themselves comfortable enough to either release the information
Speaker 5: or act.
Speaker 1: On it, right, right, And I and I appreciate that,
Speaker 1: and I do respect that. I know it's important. So
Speaker 1: I like, I'm certainly not going to you know, hope
Speaker 1: that they release this information just conjecture, you know, just talking. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But so it's you know, and it's weird like in Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: they do the top the weather collection four minutes before
Speaker 1: the hour, and so everything is at like two fifty six,
Speaker 1: three fifty six, four fifty six, five fifty six, you know,
Speaker 1: et cetera. And I'm looking at seven fifty six pm,
Speaker 1: and I know that is when he called his wife,
Speaker 1: right and they were on the phone for like a minute,
Speaker 1: and then he died like two minutes later. And I'm
Speaker 1: looking at that time in my heart just starts beating,
Speaker 1: like I don't know, you're you're looking at the weather
Speaker 1: in the location where the sky was shot at that
Speaker 1: specific time, and it's just it's it's kind of fucked
Speaker 1: up anyway.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it touches on all of us. You know, we're
Speaker 5: all compassionate, and you know, it's just you can only
Speaker 5: imagine what Kirsten's going.
Speaker 1: Oh no, I can't imagine. I cannot imagine. Let's stop
Speaker 1: here for another quick break. I've been dying to talk
Speaker 1: to you about this, all right. Do you remember how
Speaker 1: we were talking about Jared's parents, Yeah, and if if
Speaker 1: they were around and if you know, they had access
Speaker 1: to the twins. Yeah, okay, So I started looking into
Speaker 1: that Markle Act that we were talking about a while ago.
Speaker 1: And the Markle Act, just going to repeat it real quick,
Speaker 1: it gives grandparents' rights to their grandchildren when there's tragic circumstances,
Speaker 1: all right. And that was like the really general like explanation.
Speaker 1: All right. So I was like, well, let me go
Speaker 1: find out, you know, if this would help Jared's parents. Right.
Speaker 1: So I'm reading about it and it says, you know,
Speaker 1: this act was you know, enacted because of the tragic
Speaker 1: circumstances surrounding Dan Markle's murderer, right, So I was like, well,
Speaker 1: what kind of circumstances would the grandparents be given access
Speaker 1: to their grandchildren? You know, like what happened here? So
Speaker 1: I wanted to go look at this Dan Markle case, right,
Speaker 1: because it happened in Florida too, by the way, in Tallahassee.
Speaker 1: This is a Florida like statute. So I was like,
Speaker 1: all right, let me dig into this case just very briefly,
Speaker 1: just to get an understanding of what's going on here.
Speaker 2: Where'd you find out?
Speaker 1: Dude? Okay, let me uh let me pull it up again. Okay,
Speaker 1: all right, so listen. Dan is on a business trip
Speaker 1: in September of twenty twelve. All right, September twenty twelve,
Speaker 1: Dan's on a business trip. When he gets home, he
Speaker 1: finds out that his wife, Wendy, her maiden name is Adelson.
Speaker 1: You have to remember that. Okay. When he gets home,
Speaker 1: he finds that his kids are gone and Wendy has filed,
Speaker 1: like for divorce. So what happened was she filed for
Speaker 1: divorce and just moved to Miami. I think it was Miami.
Speaker 1: I'm not one hundred percent sure. Anyway, she moves far
Speaker 1: away let's just say that she moves far away, and
Speaker 1: Dan is like, okay, you can divorce me. That's fine,
Speaker 1: but you were not taking my kids. Right. So a
Speaker 1: year later, well not quite a year, but in twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: in June of twenty thirteen, the judge comes out and says,
Speaker 1: you can't relocate without permission from the father. So they
Speaker 1: the divorce is finally settled, they cannot leave. The tally
Speaker 1: has the area, I'm assuming, and Dan can now see
Speaker 1: his kids. Great, right, Well, something happens between July of
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen in May of twenty fourteen, because the next
Speaker 1: thing in the timeline is that the court documents, I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: there's a hearing scheduled for emotion to prohibit Wendy's mother
Speaker 1: from seeing her grandchildren unsupervised. All right, Now, this hearing
Speaker 1: never happens because two months later, Dan is murdered. Really yeah,
Speaker 1: so they're okay, So listen, there's this divorce, there's this
Speaker 1: contentious custody battle. It goes on for a long time,
Speaker 1: and now all of a sudden, Dad's dead and he's murdered.
Speaker 1: And now listen to this. This is the thing, all right,
Speaker 1: this is the thing he is shot after dropping his
Speaker 1: children off at school. So he has this kids, he
Speaker 1: drops them off at school. I think it was like
Speaker 1: nine in the morning. He dropped him off at preschool.
Speaker 1: I think he went to go work out. He comes
Speaker 1: back home, it's like eleven o'clock two hours later, and
Speaker 1: he is shot in his driveway, in his driveway. So
Speaker 1: he's okay, listen, So the parallels here are very similar.
Speaker 1: Jared had the kids, he dropped him off in his car. Shot,
Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? Like, okay, heading home
Speaker 1: right in his way home, right, shot. Yeah, it gets
Speaker 1: crazier though, it gets even more kind of like parallel. Right.
Speaker 1: So this is in July twenty fourteen that this happens. Okay,
Speaker 1: July eighteen, twenty fourteen, he's shot. Okay. So after that,
Speaker 1: a couple of days go by, and the police release
Speaker 1: an image of a green Prius scene in the area
Speaker 1: around the time that the crime occurred. So this is
Speaker 1: our Ford f one fifty, right in Jared's case. Right,
Speaker 1: in Jared's case, this is our Ford f one fifty.
Speaker 1: So in Dan's case, it's a green Prius, all right, ja.
Speaker 1: So they release this image of the screen Prius and
Speaker 1: then there's some like you know, the memorial services held,
Speaker 1: there's you know, general stuff. Okay. The next big thing though,
Speaker 1: that happens is that in February of twenty sixteen, so
Speaker 1: like a year and a half go by, the Tallahassee
Speaker 1: Police Department starts to like slowly release like documents about
Speaker 1: the circumstances running the death, like things like the keys
Speaker 1: were in the ignition and the house was locked, it
Speaker 1: wasn't robbed, and you know, things like you know that
Speaker 1: they would normally keep.
Speaker 3: To themselves only the person who committed Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, they start releasing their puma, right, or some of
Speaker 1: the puma, right, yep. Okay, so this is this is
Speaker 1: where it gets kind of nitty gritty. Oh and the
Speaker 1: other thing that they released is that they don't think
Speaker 1: that the prius belonged to the driver. And I don't
Speaker 1: know how they know this, but that's what they release.
Speaker 1: All right. But here's where it gets like, wow, all right,
Speaker 1: in April of twenty sixteen, Now, remember he was murdered
Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen. Yep, all right. In April of twenty sixteen,
Speaker 1: the FBI, all right, and the FBI is involved. They
Speaker 1: record a conversation between a guy named Charlie Adelson and
Speaker 1: Catherine Magbuana at a restaurant. Right now, Remember I told
Speaker 1: you his ex wife's name is Wendy Addelson, correct, So
Speaker 1: are they related? That's her brother? Oh okay, so this
Speaker 1: is her brother, all right. And when I first was
Speaker 1: reading this, I'm like, okay, well, who's this dude? Right?
Speaker 1: And why is this important?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 1: Just keep that in mind. And they record this conversation
Speaker 1: at a restaurant that's in April. In May, a month later,
Speaker 1: they arrest somebody, and they arrest this guy named Sigfredo Garcia,
Speaker 1: and he denies everything. He's like, I don't know you're
Speaker 1: talking about you know the full press, right yep? Okay,
Speaker 1: So somebody's arrested. Now, in June, like a month after
Speaker 1: he was arrested, documents in the murder case become unsealed.
Speaker 1: In those documents, there's another suspect named His name is
Speaker 1: Louis Rivera or Louis Rivera, and that establishes a connection
Speaker 1: between Adelson and Garcia, all right, So it provides more
Speaker 1: details than a timeline of the murder, according to the
Speaker 1: Tallahausee Police Department. So a jury indicts both Garcia and
Speaker 1: Rivera for this murder. So there's now a trial is
Speaker 1: going to be set, right, So Sigfredo pleads not guilty. Right,
Speaker 1: Louis Rivera, I think he made a deal. He pled guilty,
Speaker 1: he made a deal, and so Sigfredo his trial was
Speaker 1: set for November fourteenth, twenty sixteen. Then Rivera pleads guilty
Speaker 1: to second degree murder and is sentenced to nineteen years
Speaker 1: in prison. So he doesn't have a he doesn't have
Speaker 1: a trial, all right, But just then Catherine is arrested.
Speaker 1: So I'm guessing at this I haven't read the detail,
Speaker 1: but I'm guessing that Louis Rivera like he got he
Speaker 1: copped a deal because right right at that time, Catherine's arrested,
Speaker 1: so he was cooperating, right right, And says, listen, this
Speaker 1: Catherine lady hired us, okay, hired me and sik Credo wow. Right,
Speaker 1: and this Catherine woman is connected to Wendy's brother, Charles. Okay,
Speaker 1: So this is all kinds of crazy, right, And there's
Speaker 1: a lot of other things that happened. The the FBI
Speaker 1: need to analyze the the recording, and there's a lot
Speaker 1: of different kinds of COVID happens, you know, in all this,
Speaker 1: so things have been delayed, right, But it boils down
Speaker 1: to Charlie hired these two people through Catherine. She was
Speaker 1: like the go between, all right, and Charlie's trial doesn't
Speaker 1: start until a role this year, twenty twenty three, so
Speaker 1: we don't know what's going to happen there. But Catherine
Speaker 1: turned state's witness and eventually I think she got a mistrial.
Speaker 1: This case is out. This case is crazy, but it's
Speaker 1: so similar to the suspicions that people have about our case. Right.
Speaker 2: What happened to Jared?
Speaker 4: Same right, same divorce, contractious family, Right, He's taking his
Speaker 4: kids home, gets out of his car, gets shot.
Speaker 2: Nobody knows who's done it.
Speaker 4: It looks like it was a well we don't think
Speaker 4: the police have said that Jared was targeted by somebody.
Speaker 4: The way it was done, it appeared like it was
Speaker 4: like a professional.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And it's important to note too that the Tallahassee
Speaker 1: Police Department, very very very quickly after the murder also
Speaker 1: said that that Dan Markle was targeted, that he was
Speaker 1: the intended victim.
Speaker 2: Yep.
Speaker 1: So it's a very similar like we know this is
Speaker 1: targeted and I'm sure people were like, why, how did
Speaker 1: they think this was targeted? Well, you know, they just did.
Speaker 4: While it's still there are nothing of any value was taken,
Speaker 4: right except for his Dan Markle's life. So because of
Speaker 4: all this, they passed the law in Florida so that
Speaker 4: Dan's parents could get access.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure exactly, like why Wendy denied. Okay,
Speaker 1: So here's the thing. So Charlie is in jail right now.
Speaker 1: He has a trial scheduled for April of twenty twenty three.
Speaker 1: But his sister, who is Dan Markle's ex wife, like
Speaker 1: who started all this, I guess, is not facing criminal
Speaker 1: charges at this moment, all right, right.
Speaker 4: And she still has custody of the kids.
Speaker 1: She does, she does, and apparently she's been denying access
Speaker 1: to her children to Dance parents.
Speaker 4: So to what's happening with Kirsten.
Speaker 1: And her and so the law though, here's the sad thing. Okay,
Speaker 1: the law, the market law, it's not going to help them,
Speaker 1: and they still pushed for it, like they still saw
Speaker 1: the value of this. The law, the Dan Markle law
Speaker 1: or I'm sorry, the Markel Act, would only benefit the Markles.
Speaker 1: If Wendy was convicted. So this tragic circumstances. Part of
Speaker 1: this law means that the grandparents of the murder victim
Speaker 1: would have access to their children if their spouse was
Speaker 1: convicted of the murder. So it's not gonna it's not
Speaker 1: gonna help.
Speaker 2: Jaredy Jared's case. It wouldn't.
Speaker 4: It would not do to use because nobody has yet
Speaker 4: to be arrested, prosecuted, and found guilty of committeing the act.
Speaker 4: Right so that happens, the ex wife can keep the
Speaker 4: kids to herself, and as we know right now, she's
Speaker 4: relocated to another state.
Speaker 1: Correct. So it was kind of a waste of time
Speaker 1: for me to look into this because it's just not
Speaker 1: going to help jared parents. But on the bright side,
Speaker 1: I found this case, you know, that is eerily similar
Speaker 1: to Jared's case, the same kind of situation, kind of
Speaker 1: the same mo it's early similar and and the only
Speaker 1: reason that I kind of want to talk to miss
Speaker 1: Bradygan about it is just like I don't want to
Speaker 1: and I don't think she is giving up hope. I
Speaker 1: don't think she I don't think she's ever going to
Speaker 1: give up hope, you know what I mean. But I
Speaker 1: know she's I know she's desperate, right, Like she wants
Speaker 1: justice for her husband. And if we tell her the story,
Speaker 1: if she doesn't know about it, if we tell her
Speaker 1: the story and say, look, these are like really similar
Speaker 1: circumstances and this family. You know it took a year
Speaker 1: just to get somebody arrested. Don't lose hope. It's only
Speaker 1: it's I know it's saying it's only been eight months
Speaker 1: is shitty. That's not what I That's not how I
Speaker 1: want to say it. But like we need to give
Speaker 1: it a little bit more time. More on that next time.
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