Speaker 1: Hello, Hey, what's up man? What's your name?
Speaker 2: Michael Man? How are you?
Speaker 1: Michael, Michael Myers, Mike No Bateman. That's a guy I
Speaker 1: went to college with. Uh, Mike Myers. Mike Myers is
Speaker 1: the Saturday Night Live was he was Mike Myers on
Speaker 1: Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 2: I don't even know him.
Speaker 1: He's like, uh, yeah, he played the cat in the
Speaker 1: Hat and the Hat film.
Speaker 2: Did he did the Doctor Evil stuff?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: This is crazy. I'm like, I'm like I've been obviously,
Speaker 2: I watched, like most people listen to it, but I
Speaker 2: think I'm a unique listener because I listened to you
Speaker 2: when I go to bed. Oh, You're like my You're
Speaker 2: like my nightly routine.
Speaker 3: You become my nay routine.
Speaker 2: So every night it would be like, instead of instead
Speaker 2: of scrolling and like bleeding my eyes out on Instagram
Speaker 2: because you know how long those doom scrolls could be,
Speaker 2: I would just put on a liile, put a fifteen
Speaker 2: minute timer and then listen to other people's problems and
Speaker 2: it helps me to set my own.
Speaker 1: Awesome, awesome, thanks man, I appreciate I'm truly I'm honored
Speaker 1: to hear that I could be a part of your
Speaker 1: nightly routine. Brother, I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: M Yeah, you're like.
Speaker 1: Mike Myers, man, it's cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know if you read the message. It's
Speaker 2: it's funny because I always listened to you, like whether
Speaker 2: I put you on on my way home or and
Speaker 2: or go to go into bed, but I never really
Speaker 2: had I'm like, damn, I want to speak to him
Speaker 2: because I fuck with him, but I never had something
Speaker 2: real to talk about. But now I do. Now It's
Speaker 2: like I feel like this is like a perfect conversation
Speaker 2: to have with the get go. So I'm like I've
Speaker 2: manifested it, like I just I'm like, okay, I got
Speaker 2: to get this guy on live. So I just followed
Speaker 2: you on Instagram. And then you're like, okay, I didn't
Speaker 2: know how it worked.
Speaker 4: I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I don't watch live themes. I found you on clips
Speaker 2: like most people three years ago, and I just watched
Speaker 2: them Spotify, so I didn't know how it worked. And
Speaker 2: then I just you posted on Instagram. I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: let me just span this guy. No, you probably should
Speaker 2: put like the one and then your number because a
Speaker 2: lot of people probably don't know that.
Speaker 1: So hit us with the thing man, would you want
Speaker 1: to talk about anyways?
Speaker 2: So well, the punchline is I dated a legal immigrant
Speaker 2: for the past two years and I went against everyone's
Speaker 2: advice and then we broke up, and I guess I
Speaker 2: just want to start off with like the idea of,
Speaker 2: like I'm twenty four, I'm fairly young. I have everything
Speaker 2: kind of provided for me. My family immigrated to Canada
Speaker 2: like in the sixties, like most Italian families, and like
Speaker 2: my grandparents set like their life up, and my parents
Speaker 2: set my life up, so I'm like their generation, and
Speaker 2: everything was like, everything's going well in my life. So
Speaker 2: I just recently got out of a breakup, like in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three, in January, and that was because during
Speaker 2: COVID obviously, like it was a hard time for everybody,
Speaker 2: but I was like, I just I felt like the
Speaker 2: need for a relationship because I wasn't messing with my
Speaker 2: friends at the time. So thankfully I finally got into
Speaker 2: like some sort of relationship that was organic that lasted,
Speaker 2: you know, two and a half years, three years, first
Speaker 2: love kind of thing. It was good. But the thing
Speaker 2: with this girl was she was always spoiled and stuff,
Speaker 2: and I didn't fuck with it. So I just had
Speaker 2: to move on right. She was bratty. But then comes
Speaker 2: like a month later, I'm over here. I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: you know what, I don't want to rebound. I don't
Speaker 2: want to go to a party school and just fuck girls,
Speaker 2: hook up, do whatever. So I went to God. Obviously.
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, you know what, I got Saint
Speaker 2: Michael on my arm. Let me see if I could
Speaker 2: find God right now, let me do this right, join
Speaker 2: the join the what's it called. I don't even know
Speaker 2: what it's called? Angelic a jelous. I'm sort of church
Speaker 2: that was like Bible studies. It was cool until they
Speaker 2: like told me like get baptized again. And I was like, okay,
Speaker 2: i'm a.
Speaker 3: I'm a.
Speaker 2: I'm a. I'm okay with being a non disciple for now.
Speaker 2: Like I'll take God for what I think he is
Speaker 2: and create my own relationship. These guys are like my
Speaker 2: car broke down and my bills are not paid, but
Speaker 2: but God's on my side. I'm like, all right, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm gonna get out of here now. So I
Speaker 2: just got out of that and then I'm like, you
Speaker 2: know what, you know, I tried God tried the rebound.
Speaker 2: This not working, let me just go with my guys.
Speaker 2: So ironically, I went out with these guys. We went
Speaker 2: to we went out for like a bar the drinks,
Speaker 2: and I found my my friends from high school that
Speaker 2: I haven't talked to in years, and we went out
Speaker 2: one night. And then I found this girl. And I
Speaker 2: didn't want to get into another relationship, but after my
Speaker 2: first one, I honestly just wanted to travel the world
Speaker 2: and be like a nomad for a little bit. But
Speaker 2: I found this girl, and you know, I connected with her.
Speaker 2: And she like she's from Mexico, and she barely spoke
Speaker 2: English when I taught when I talked to her, but
Speaker 2: I felt like this connection and as you could see,
Speaker 2: like I really enjoy talking. You'll get a lot from
Speaker 2: this call, but so coming off anytime you have a question.
Speaker 2: But and she obviously didn't speak like full sentences, but
Speaker 2: I had like this connection with her, so I thought,
Speaker 2: I thought it was like like God or something, right,
Speaker 2: So I just went out with this girl a couple
Speaker 2: of times. And at first it was just for fun.
Speaker 2: It was just you know, going out dating scene. Like
Speaker 2: it's always like the best phase when you kind of
Speaker 2: meet a girl when you connect with them and you
Speaker 2: do the dates and all that stuff. And this girl
Speaker 2: taught me that, like, oh I could love again, because
Speaker 2: like a week before this, I was like, you know,
Speaker 2: curled up like damn man, like I've just missed this,
Speaker 2: my accent, this and that. Like but over over the time,
Speaker 2: like three months or so, I had the best time
Speaker 2: with this girl, Like oh my god, it was like
Speaker 2: pure euphoric. It was like pure fairy tale like most
Speaker 2: early relationships. I never asked her out though, because I
Speaker 2: didn't want another girlfriend, but I just enjoyed her time.
Speaker 3: And then June came along.
Speaker 2: We spent so much time together, like we it was
Speaker 2: probably every other day. My parents were like who's this girl?
Speaker 2: And then every persons like Michael, what are you doing
Speaker 2: with this girl? What are you doing with this girl?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, well, you just leave me alone. Just
Speaker 2: let me have fun. I'm just having fun, just having fun.
Speaker 2: And then she told me in after June like it
Speaker 2: was it was like the epitome of our our love
Speaker 2: and it was like really everything was going good, and
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, you know what, maybe I might
Speaker 2: try with this girl. She told me she's moving across
Speaker 2: the country for work in the summer, and I sat
Speaker 2: to myself and I remember I was we were on
Speaker 2: a beach and she just sat me down and she
Speaker 2: told me the news that she's going for the summer
Speaker 2: for work. And I was just like, okay, it's June.
Speaker 2: I could clearly just say all right, cool, that was
Speaker 2: fun and have like a halfway summer. But there was
Speaker 2: something in me. There was something in me that was like, no,
Speaker 2: like I gotta try with this girl. I gotta see you.
Speaker 2: It's like because in my previous relationship I spent I
Speaker 2: would say, too much time with my ex girlfriend. It's
Speaker 2: way too much time. So this one, I'm like, you
Speaker 2: know what, maybe this is good. Maybe this is good
Speaker 2: because if someone's away from me, I'm able to know
Speaker 2: I work a lot in the summer, I'm able to
Speaker 2: work and I have like that companionship through text or
Speaker 2: through call, and then maybe I could go and visit
Speaker 2: throughout the summer. So I so I just asked her
Speaker 2: on the spot. I said, all right, well I don't
Speaker 2: want to leave you, so here you go, like, because
Speaker 2: let's shy it out and let's do this. So obviously
Speaker 2: said yes, and it was like a very weird time
Speaker 2: in my life because I was like, why am I
Speaker 2: doing this? Like this is this nothing seems right. I'm
Speaker 2: telling everyone about it, and they're all like, Michael, what
Speaker 2: this Like what are you doing? Dude? Like do you
Speaker 2: really like this girl? Like you have yourr you got everything,
Speaker 2: you don't need to like settle down and that that
Speaker 2: that's kind of a theme that carried out throughout this relationship.
Speaker 2: A lot of people thought I was like settling down
Speaker 2: with this person and like thinking of this person as
Speaker 2: less than because obviously she doesn't have paperwork and all
Speaker 2: this shit. But fast forward, I spend the summer. Summer
Speaker 2: was all right, you know, it was a little hard
Speaker 2: bumped because of my first long distance relationship, and I said, okay,
Speaker 2: fuck it, like spend a month there. And then I
Speaker 2: ended up going spending like three weeks in at this place,
Speaker 2: and we traveled and we did a bunch, We just
Speaker 2: ded so many memories together, right, and then fast forward
Speaker 2: I left for Spain and it was like the hardest,
Speaker 2: probably the hardest thing in my life where I love wise,
Speaker 2: where I looked at her and we were both confused
Speaker 2: because this place was she wanted to move out. She
Speaker 2: wanted to move out. She wanted someone to like kind
Speaker 2: of move out with her and stuff, but she never
Speaker 2: told me. I was just kind of insisted. So this
Speaker 2: place it was Vancouver, and we went to Vancouver, and honestly,
Speaker 2: lylet I don't know if you've been, you've probably been
Speaker 2: on tours. I don't like Vancouver, like.
Speaker 1: Like Vancouver, Vancouver is a nice place.
Speaker 2: I think it's it's I think North Vancouver is great.
Speaker 2: I'm in Toronto, and I don't know. Maybe it's just
Speaker 2: the like I like being able to walk out and
Speaker 2: like be swallowed by skyscrapers. I liked the lake, but
Speaker 2: I just I went down East has things. I took
Speaker 2: the bus to the Freak and Fair. Damn, it's just
Speaker 2: a zombie lance sometimes. And I think it was a
Speaker 2: mixture of everything, though I think it was. I was
Speaker 2: hanging out with a lot of her Spanish friends and.
Speaker 3: I was like, damn, man, mich what are you doing?
Speaker 2: Like this is not where you want to be, Like
Speaker 2: I don't want to go to Vancouver, move to Vancouver
Speaker 2: and and pay like all this rent and like try
Speaker 2: to make it work and I have everything set up
Speaker 2: in front of Why would I do that? To myself.
Speaker 2: You know, North Vancouver was beautiful, like Client's Bay, squamish,
Speaker 2: like we did a bleunch of hikes there, but I
Speaker 2: don't know, like I think I was a little homesick.
Speaker 2: So I remember leaving her. I remember telling her on
Speaker 2: the boardwalk. It was like the first kind of argument
Speaker 2: we had. And yeah, I left her on the boardwalk
Speaker 2: and we I just told her straight up, I'm like, look,
Speaker 2: I don't want to move here, like I don't want
Speaker 2: to I don't want this place, like I'm whether it's homesick,
Speaker 2: I don't feel comfortable this and that, And it was
Speaker 2: like the first type of like argument, not argument, but
Speaker 2: this this this silent treatment, which is like a pattern
Speaker 2: from like here and for the last two years, and
Speaker 2: pretty much there's so many other details. I'd rather do
Speaker 2: you ask questions than I answer. But when I left
Speaker 2: in Spain, she literally she said like, Okay, you know,
Speaker 2: we'll work it out. We'll work it out, we'll work
Speaker 2: it out. It's everything was like, we'll work it out.
Speaker 2: Went to Spain. It was really it was really hard
Speaker 2: to like process everything. And then she finally then in October,
Speaker 2: another hiccup happened where she you know, she was staying
Speaker 2: for work because then again like these these these people
Speaker 2: like like when they come here and they overstay, they
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of selection, right, And I think
Speaker 2: she opened up my eyes to that, Like she made
Speaker 2: me a lot more grateful of like my life and
Speaker 2: that's what I'm thankful for. But she doesn't have a
Speaker 2: lot of selections, so she just goes wherever work is.
Speaker 2: And I just told myself, I was like, look, man, like,
Speaker 2: if you love this girl, everything will work out. And
Speaker 2: in October she told me that she might stay the
Speaker 2: Vancouver for school, the same school that was was an
Speaker 2: Ilac And I'm like, dude, why, like I haven't even
Speaker 2: dated you for for for like a month. I haven't
Speaker 2: even we haven't even been in person dating for a
Speaker 2: month yet, How am I? How am I going to?
Speaker 2: Like I'm a very you know, like physical person when
Speaker 2: it comes to like physical touches like a love language
Speaker 2: of mine, I can't really like do the long distance forever, right,
Speaker 2: I need like a goal in mind. So she made
Speaker 2: the decision to come back to Toronto, not for me,
Speaker 2: but he shows a couple of her family members here too,
Speaker 2: and just everything stress was a little bit too much
Speaker 2: and she needed that support, so she came back. She
Speaker 2: we we did a lot of like trips together to
Speaker 2: like kind of bond. But I think the pattern was this,
Speaker 2: I always felt really amazing with her by myself. Every
Speaker 2: time I brought around my family, it was like awkward
Speaker 2: about it. My family's very supportive, but I just felt
Speaker 2: a little awkward, and she felt a little scared and
Speaker 2: stressed because of obviously she's a little insecure about her
Speaker 2: situation and she doesn't want people to know and all
Speaker 2: that stuff. And when I brought around my friends, it
Speaker 2: was just kind of awkward, but because she didn't know
Speaker 2: the language too well. But there was still love there.
Speaker 2: So she came back. She actually surprised me to come back,
Speaker 2: which is likely where she like switched her flights and stuff.
Speaker 2: So there was love there. And this is what I
Speaker 2: call like phase one of the relationship. There's there's so
Speaker 2: much more. But like in January, she wanted to go
Speaker 2: back to Vancouver in the summer, and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 2: I don't know what's going on. Like there's you're just
Speaker 2: constantly back and forth and that's her lifestyle, right, Like
Speaker 2: she's just living by the day. For me, it's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I got to live through the year, and I have
Speaker 2: year releaf plans and stuff for her. It's like whatever
Speaker 2: comes her she has to take because that's that's the
Speaker 2: life she made for herself. And pretty much I just
Speaker 2: was so conflicted of what I should do, Like should
Speaker 2: I stay with this girl? Should I help her with
Speaker 2: her paperwork? I'm twenty four, Yeah I do me. I
Speaker 2: got a pretty good career on my hands, but I
Speaker 2: still got to work towards it, right like, like I
Speaker 2: want to I want to build. I have a lot
Speaker 2: of opportunities that I'm taking, Like I'm literally in freaking
Speaker 2: Barbados right now, skeeping the whole winter of Toronto, which
Speaker 2: is amazing for work. And I just can't find the
Speaker 2: need to feel guilty for being successful because she can't
Speaker 2: have the same opportunities that I have. So in May,
Speaker 2: we tried to get like an immigration lawyer and just
Speaker 2: to figure it out. I just needed to have a path.
Speaker 2: I needed some sort of I couldn't do this day
Speaker 2: by day shit, and the.
Speaker 3: Immigration lawyer probably just wanted some money.
Speaker 2: But she was just straight up telling me I got
Speaker 2: to marry her. I got to marry her. I gotta
Speaker 2: be calm a law. I gotta do this. I gotta
Speaker 2: I'm like, holy fuck, and she goes, Michael, you don't
Speaker 2: got to marry me. You don't get to marry me.
Speaker 2: We'll figure it out another way, and I'm like, oh, dude,
Speaker 2: Like I don't want that to be the only option.
Speaker 2: Like this is a professional telling me that the only reason,
Speaker 2: the only way I could keep you is if I
Speaker 2: marry you, and like I don't even know you, you know,
Speaker 2: like like a year goes by and like, yes, we
Speaker 2: spend a lot of good time together, but she hasn't
Speaker 2: really like proved to me that that, like I got
Speaker 2: to marry her, Like it's a big commitment. It's like
Speaker 2: a lifelong thing, and I don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: So I said, I'm not doing that, but we'll figure
Speaker 2: something else out. And then I got so overwhelmed a
Speaker 2: point where my family's like like we gotta end it.
Speaker 2: It's just it's not doesn't make sense, it makes sense.
Speaker 2: I got so influenced by other people. And then I
Speaker 2: try to break up with her. And when I during
Speaker 2: that breakup, it was just it was hard because I,
Speaker 2: you know, I went over there. I kind of had
Speaker 2: my mind made and I pretty much told her shut up.
Speaker 2: I said, look like this is just not gonna end
Speaker 2: well and I'd rather just cut it off before it
Speaker 2: ends bad. And she she just pretty much said like,
Speaker 2: oh is this It is done? And I just walked out,
Speaker 2: like you know, we concluded that it was all on conversation,
Speaker 2: but to long stide short like concluded that walked out
Speaker 2: And as I was walking out, it was kind of
Speaker 2: raining and sh it was like a movie scene. I
Speaker 2: was like, did I just do that? Like I do?
Speaker 2: I feel like I made the right decision. And I'm like, okay,
Speaker 2: I feel like a little bit of weight lift off
Speaker 2: my shoulder. I feel like I made the right decision.
Speaker 2: And as I'm as I'm thinking this to myself and
Speaker 2: opening my car door, this girl comes running out in
Speaker 2: the rain in her feet it's cold outside, and and
Speaker 2: jumps and just and just kind of I don't know,
Speaker 2: like just tells me not to leave and this and that,
Speaker 2: and I'm like a sucker. I'm like, I can't do this,
Speaker 2: Like I don't want I'll leave any girl, even in
Speaker 2: my ex my other acts like no, girl, I don't
Speaker 2: want to see you crying because I left I want
Speaker 2: to be like, Okay, it was refreshing, closures key, and
Speaker 2: I just had to like I had to make it work.
Speaker 2: I don't know, something inside of me was like, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's try again, let's try something else. And then in
Speaker 2: August she later I fast forward August twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: everything was kind of going well, like, you know, she
Speaker 2: actually brought her to my parents and we had dinner,
Speaker 2: and she kind of had to like confess that she's
Speaker 2: not there for the paper. She loves me and all
Speaker 2: this stuff, like it was a big thing for her
Speaker 2: to do that she didn't want to do, but she
Speaker 2: she did it because of the love for me, right
Speaker 2: and and but she always told me that, like I
Speaker 2: forced her to do that, and I thought that that
Speaker 2: was the best part of our relationship is when she
Speaker 2: did that. So that was a discrepancy. And in August
Speaker 2: she pretty much said, like everything was going decent. You know,
Speaker 2: the love was still there. You know, we went to
Speaker 2: much real we did some fun stuff together, like we
Speaker 2: still had some bonding. It was a little bit drier,
Speaker 2: but like every other kind of relationship, you know, when
Speaker 2: you want to rack up the year or two, it's
Speaker 2: not going to be as good at the first couple
Speaker 2: of months, but then in August she kind of blindsided me.
Speaker 2: I don't know. She got on the phone with her
Speaker 2: mom and then her friends and and and you could
Speaker 2: tell like this, like energy was off, Like our relationship
Speaker 2: revolved around energy, because obviously language wasn't the key. It
Speaker 2: was all about energy. And she just sat me down
Speaker 2: and she's just like straight up said like, yeah, this
Speaker 2: is I don't know if this just gonna work out.
Speaker 2: I want to go back to Mexico. I can't do
Speaker 2: this anymore. Like I just I feel like I'm too
Speaker 2: like I'm not good enough for you, all the stuff, like,
Speaker 2: and I'm telling her like no, like this girl's a
Speaker 2: strong girl. Like I'm always boosting her up. I feel
Speaker 2: like any any person that moves to another country and
Speaker 2: tries to start a life here like my my grandparents did,
Speaker 2: and I'm spoiled, like I didn't do I didn't have
Speaker 2: to suffer through all that, all that dumb pain. So
Speaker 2: I always boosted her up. I said, no, she's strong,
Speaker 2: she's fire, she's like confident like all this stuff. I
Speaker 2: always brought her up no matter what, because that was
Speaker 2: my goal. And yeah, she was just telling me like yeah,
Speaker 2: like that's it, like whatever, And once I lyle, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm a lover. I'm a lover boy if I love her, boy,
Speaker 2: I don't like once someone breaks that love, I just
Speaker 2: become evil, Like I just it is what it is,
Speaker 2: like I just don't love you anymore, like the connection's lost.
Speaker 2: Energy is lost, and I just became like this version
Speaker 2: of myself that I hated, like I felt like it
Speaker 2: was like a dickhead. Like I was like, no, like,
Speaker 2: you made your decision. I know that I'm a sucker.
Speaker 2: And if I ever give you a chance to come back,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna eat it off. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna take it and take you back. So I just
Speaker 2: told her straight up, I said, all right, well, like
Speaker 2: I don't know when she told me that, I was like,
Speaker 2: why do I why do I not want to cry
Speaker 2: right now? Like why do I feel like okay, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's true. And it's because she put herself first. Finally,
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, you got to go back to Mexico.
Speaker 2: You have your own problems. I clearly have my life
Speaker 2: kind of figured out a little bit in a way,
Speaker 2: and I have a lot of golden dreams and aspirations,
Speaker 2: and in a way, she's kind of holding you back,
Speaker 2: like she she was because like I don't know, she
Speaker 2: was a little bit, but I didn't want to admit
Speaker 2: it to myself because I was in love with her.
Speaker 2: But August Taman went, it was really hard for me
Speaker 2: because I we we broke up in the most phoenix
Speaker 2: spot ever. There's like this place across where Toronto. There's
Speaker 2: like it's called the Park Lawn, and it's like this
Speaker 2: beautiful place overlooking the skyline. And you know, she she
Speaker 2: didn't think we were gonna break up. She thought she
Speaker 2: could like win me back before that day. But I
Speaker 2: was My mind was set. My mind was set, and
Speaker 2: I just told her straight up, I said, look, I
Speaker 2: enjoyed my time with you, like I don't want to
Speaker 2: think it was like a waste of time. I enjoyed
Speaker 2: my time with you. But this is a decision you made,
Speaker 2: and I can't really forgive you right now for that.
Speaker 2: And I just want to like move on and let
Speaker 2: you make that decision. And and i'd rather her move
Speaker 2: on so I can move on, because if she doesn't
Speaker 2: move on, I can't move on. That's like the whole
Speaker 2: thing of of my my love life, and so we
Speaker 2: so a month on month went by and ironically her
Speaker 2: her birthday was the end of August. And this is
Speaker 2: important because I turned down a really big opportunity to
Speaker 2: film in France for her and I I kind of
Speaker 2: regretted it. So I was looking for vacation stuff. I
Speaker 2: was like, hey, I want to go to Switzerland, I
Speaker 2: want to go to Costa Rica. I need something to
Speaker 2: do at the end of August. The guy who I
Speaker 2: turned down called me back and he goes, hey, man,
Speaker 2: just wanted, as you know, cantrafund your flights. If you
Speaker 2: still want to come, I'd rather that seat be with
Speaker 2: you instead of being empty. And I'm like, oh my god, man,
Speaker 2: you have no idea how much this helped me. Right now,
Speaker 2: took that gig, had the time of my life filming everything.
Speaker 2: And and then she called me. She called me. I
Speaker 2: was thinking about her after a birthday because I didn't
Speaker 2: say happy birthday. I was really wanted to do it,
Speaker 2: but I said, no, don't do it. Don't do it.
Speaker 2: She called me to Comber first, and I was I
Speaker 2: was like, fucking in between the seats on the plane,
Speaker 2: fucking bawling, writing a love letter in my notes, like
Speaker 2: just trying to like figure out this shit. And in
Speaker 2: that night she called me and it's like what the fuck,
Speaker 2: Like there's there's a guy out there, Like there's no way,
Speaker 2: there's no way, right, A coincidential face for for most people,
Speaker 2: but for me, it was like, yeah, spiritual.
Speaker 1: Shit, So call me. You were so you were you
Speaker 1: were thinking about her and write this love letter and
Speaker 1: then she called.
Speaker 2: You so no, I was. I was out on a
Speaker 2: plane in the in between going from freaking Switzerland to
Speaker 2: Paris or something, and I was just writing this ship
Speaker 2: because I was sad, like I was in the mountains
Speaker 2: and stuff, I was filming. It was like it's the
Speaker 2: best thing in my world. And I'm like, dude, like
Speaker 2: I was thinking about it, and I'm like, yo, she
Speaker 2: was gonna make me miss this? Like what type of
Speaker 2: like what type of person was I to like miss
Speaker 2: this amazing opportunity for my career for her? Like I
Speaker 2: was like, I was like so happy. But then a
Speaker 2: phase like I you know, BC, we went to we
Speaker 2: went to Yukon too, like we did the mountains and
Speaker 2: everything and and the Rockies and every time it was
Speaker 2: in the mountains. It just reminded me of her, So
Speaker 2: I was like I was going through it, but I
Speaker 2: also like pivoted with like I was doing what I loved.
Speaker 2: So it was just a weird, weird emotion. And I mean,
Speaker 2: I know that you're film major as well, but there's
Speaker 2: a I really get like doping rushes when I film,
Speaker 2: and then it's like kind of coming off Molly, like
Speaker 2: when you were like finish a project or finish everything,
Speaker 2: you're just like, fuck, it's done, like it's over, and
Speaker 2: you get kind of sad. So I was kind of
Speaker 2: sad about it being over, and then on top of it,
Speaker 2: I was sad because it was her birthday, and I
Speaker 2: was just an emotional wreck and a point because I
Speaker 2: knew I had to come back. And usually when I
Speaker 2: come back to these things, you know, when I went
Speaker 2: to go travel, I love calling her and telling her
Speaker 2: about everything and my experiences, and I'm like, damn, I
Speaker 2: can't do that. So that night she called me and
Speaker 2: I got to like, I was like, what the heck,
Speaker 2: Like it kind of got into my prayers, so I thought,
Speaker 2: right for then and there I'm like, Okay, this girl,
Speaker 2: this girl is going to this girl special like I
Speaker 2: don't know, the energy is still there. It came back.
Speaker 2: Let's try again, Let's try again. And important thing to
Speaker 2: notice in my previous relationship, I got into like some
Speaker 2: sort of like you know, big kind of fight or
Speaker 2: argument and dispute and to a point where it left
Speaker 2: me like like heartless in a way. And then we
Speaker 2: tried again. We tried again, the same idea, but it
Speaker 2: was never the same she and the difference between this
Speaker 2: girl she was she never forgave the girl that I'm
Speaker 2: with or was with now my second ex girlfriend, she
Speaker 2: forgave a lot, but she didn't forgive what she did.
Speaker 2: Instead of holding the grudge, she would just like boil
Speaker 2: like she would let everything boil in and she would
Speaker 2: never tell me anything, so I would never know.
Speaker 1: And this is the Mexican girl that you're talking about
Speaker 1: or the other Yeah yeah, okay, okay.
Speaker 2: So there's an Italian girl and a Mexican girl which
Speaker 2: is referred that refer to that those two. Okay, so yeah,
Speaker 2: so the Mexican girl forgave a lot, but she never
Speaker 2: really forgave. I always thought she was emotionally strong, because
Speaker 2: the Italian girl wasn't emotionally strong she was always kind
Speaker 2: of ratty, but the Mexican girl was very emotionally strong,
Speaker 2: I thought, I thought, but usually I think it was
Speaker 2: just based off. She just was like like Sylvie, like
Speaker 2: just freaking live the life and we'll figure it out
Speaker 2: as we go. So anyways, we called each other and
Speaker 2: like we really just like I don't know, like we felt.
Speaker 2: I felt that connection that we felt that I felt
Speaker 2: throughout the years. And I'm like, all right, like this
Speaker 2: is this is gonna be scary to bring it up
Speaker 2: to everybody again, but this has to be God, this
Speaker 2: has to do energy, this has to this, this is
Speaker 2: aligning with what I thought, and let's try it out.
Speaker 2: Let's do it. So I went to go. When I
Speaker 2: came back from from France, I we went out together.
Speaker 2: And even the first time we went out, like I
Speaker 2: was like, oh shit, like I'm trying to like, I
Speaker 2: just really wanted it loud. I really wanted it to
Speaker 2: be like, Okay, we both love each other right now,
Speaker 2: let's just you know, let's go back, let's pick up
Speaker 2: where we left off.
Speaker 3: Let's that's it. But it wasn't.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like that. It was it was it was
Speaker 2: all right. It was all right, but you know, we
Speaker 2: talked about everything and uh we we we mentioned like
Speaker 2: our problems with each other and what happened and what
Speaker 2: we did and how we felt throughout the lunch, and
Speaker 2: I kind of showed her like, hey, like I know
Speaker 2: I didn't. I know you think I wasn't thinking about you,
Speaker 2: but like here's like what I did for you. Like
Speaker 2: I showed all like these notes stuff and yeah, and
Speaker 2: then it just it worked out. It was fine. It
Speaker 2: was fine for like a month, but she kind of
Speaker 2: just told me, like Michael, we have to work it
Speaker 2: slowly because it can't be quick. If it's quick, it's
Speaker 2: gonna go up and down. I'm like, all right, and
Speaker 2: I feel like lyle like in August, I felt like
Speaker 2: shit because I was I'm a very sweet guy. I
Speaker 2: would say I didn't let her down easy. I really
Speaker 2: just read. I just read like I said, I try
Speaker 2: to let her down easy. And then she tried to
Speaker 2: coming back, and I said, Paul it, I don't like
Speaker 2: I really, I just don't love you anymore, like I
Speaker 2: just I straight up. I remember we broke up beautifully.
Speaker 2: And then I saw at the gym a week later
Speaker 2: and I just couldn't couldn't figure out a way to
Speaker 2: like just leave her because she was constantly in my brain.
Speaker 2: And I told her like in the car, straight up,
Speaker 2: im like look, maybe we're not soul mates, maybe I
Speaker 2: never loved you in the first place. Like I just
Speaker 2: fucking ripped on her. It was so bad because I
Speaker 2: needed to I needed to tell myself that like this.
Speaker 1: This is you said, you said this in the car.
Speaker 1: This is after the reconciliation. This after she calls you again.
Speaker 2: Uh know, this is so this is August. It is
Speaker 2: a week one of August. We broke up. Week two
Speaker 2: it was I saw at the gym, and so week
Speaker 2: one was like amazing, it was a good breakup. It
Speaker 2: was like okay, and she just kind of still said
Speaker 2: don't forget about me, like like don't don't give up
Speaker 2: on me, this and that, and it was still like
Speaker 2: in her brain like it might work out. But for
Speaker 2: me it was like no, I gotta move on. And
Speaker 2: then I went to like a music festival. I did
Speaker 2: all this shit, and it was I kind of was
Speaker 2: living life, went to concert solo, like I was trying
Speaker 2: my best to just move on effectively. And then a
Speaker 2: week later I saw at the gym, and I said fuck,
Speaker 2: Like I thought it was like, okay, we're good. I
Speaker 2: just could say hi to you and just move on.
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, I'm never gonna be in the gym
Speaker 2: at the nighttime again. And that's it. But but yeah,
Speaker 2: so where was that. Yeah, So in September, we tried
Speaker 2: our best. We really tried our best. I kind of
Speaker 2: slowly introduced it one by one family members, one by one.
Speaker 2: My mom was first, and then my my closest my
Speaker 2: oldest brother, and then my grandparents and then my second
Speaker 2: closest brother, you know, like I was just slowly introducing
Speaker 2: it to my family because it was a scary thing,
Speaker 2: you know, like like it's not easy for for for
Speaker 2: me to say, like, hey, like I'm going to choose
Speaker 2: myself and my love and I'm gonna I'm going to
Speaker 2: tell me who to love and I'm not going to
Speaker 2: be influenced by anyone else. And everyone was accepting, you know,
Speaker 2: like they was like, all right, Michael, you're happy that
Speaker 2: was the big thing.
Speaker 1: You're telling everyone that you're trying again.
Speaker 4: Trying again, right, Yeah, okay, all right, trying again. So
Speaker 4: I just told them and they were all accepting, like everyone.
Speaker 4: Everyone said the same thing. If I love my family
Speaker 4: so much, they just said, as long as you're happy,
Speaker 4: as long as you're happy, whatever.
Speaker 2: Do what makes you happy. And if whatever comes out
Speaker 2: of this, as long as you're happy, you're fine. I
Speaker 2: don't care. You know, it's your life. And that's why
Speaker 2: I appreciate my family because they let me go through
Speaker 2: these emotions. They don't kind of dictate it, even if
Speaker 2: they know it's better best for me. So I pretty
Speaker 2: much we tried for but the thing was, she was
Speaker 2: just she was slow. It was slow for her, very slow,
Speaker 2: and for me, it was just like, dude, we gotta
Speaker 2: we gotta start doing things together again. We gotta like
Speaker 2: revive our relationship again, Like we gotta go to go
Speaker 2: out to dinner, go out. Do we really like rocked
Speaker 2: our phase one of our relationship. Phase one was like
Speaker 2: May twenty twenty three to like August twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: Like Phase one was fire, and that's why I was
Speaker 2: sad about phase one. Phase two was September twenty twenty four,
Speaker 2: and then we'll keep going. So in October she was
Speaker 2: she focused on herself more, and I think that's what
Speaker 2: I realized in between the two phases. Her Phase one
Speaker 2: was her constantly doing things for me to please meet
Speaker 2: And I loved it, no wonder, I fucking loved it
Speaker 2: because she was kind of like selfless for me. She
Speaker 2: did everything that I wanted. She enjoyed everything too, don't
Speaker 2: get me wrong, Like I planned things. I told her, like,
Speaker 2: do you want to do anything? She was, no, No, just
Speaker 2: plan whatever. I'll just join you.
Speaker 3: It's fun.
Speaker 2: And I too. She did a lot for herself. She
Speaker 2: worked a lot. She went this girl is really a
Speaker 2: hard worker in a sense because she needs it. Man Like,
Speaker 2: it's hard to get a job out there, and it's
Speaker 2: hard to keep one because of everyone's just getting paid
Speaker 2: less and less and less. Right, So she works Monday
Speaker 2: to Friday from not like eight thirty in the morning
Speaker 2: to like six pm, sits in traffic for an hour,
Speaker 2: then goes to school from like seven, six thirty to five.
Speaker 2: My lad, She goes work from five eight thirty five,
Speaker 2: sits in traffic for an hour, goes to school from
Speaker 2: six to nine, and then god for like, hopefully we
Speaker 2: get a gym session together at nighttime. And that was
Speaker 2: her schedule and the only time she had was Sundays
Speaker 2: and Sundays was like her errand day. So I was like,
Speaker 2: holy fuck, Michael, is ship you want? You know, like
Speaker 2: why do you what relationships you have? Like she's just
Speaker 2: either working all the time we're in school, and I
Speaker 2: was just like, okay, I still love this girl. I
Speaker 2: still love this school. I admire her hard work, and honestly,
Speaker 2: while she motivated me to work harder because I had everything,
Speaker 2: but I felt like the need. I'm like, okay, I
Speaker 2: can't make any excuses because look at my girlfriend, Like
Speaker 2: look at her working so hard. I'm an excuse because
Speaker 2: I don't want to edit to one am Like fuck that, Like,
Speaker 2: come on, look at your girl. She's doing everything for
Speaker 2: and to keep herself afloat and you got everything and
Speaker 2: you can't. You can't grind for another couple hours. So
Speaker 2: she was motivating me in a way and that's why
Speaker 2: I kept her around so long. And then in October
Speaker 2: she's pretty much I pretty much like we met up
Speaker 2: and I wanted her to come to like this Halloween
Speaker 2: party of mine. And ironically, if there's anyone listens from Toronto,
Speaker 2: like the World Series Game seven from with the Blue
Speaker 2: Jays was on Halloween night and it's sabotaged my whole
Speaker 2: Halloween party because everyone was watching the game. And then
Speaker 2: when the Blue Jays lost, everyone left and like the
Speaker 2: other people that didn't care about baseball came. So it's
Speaker 2: just like it was such a it was whatever, it
Speaker 2: doesn't matter. I was just some community for any Blue
Speaker 2: Jay stands. But yeah, like I went to she didn't
Speaker 2: come to that Halloween party. I really wanted to come
Speaker 2: because I wanted It was the first time that she
Speaker 2: was around me with everybody, and she didn't want to
Speaker 2: come because well, she had a reason too. She had
Speaker 2: to work. I like, she got a job, a big
Speaker 2: job at like the following day at like six am,
Speaker 2: was like a twelve hour shift and it paid her
Speaker 2: well and she needs the money, so she had to
Speaker 2: like not come and I understood that, but it was
Speaker 2: just like fuck, man, I feel like she's dodging all
Speaker 2: the stuff. But I'm like, no, no, no, it's okay.
Speaker 2: She has worked. You kind of gotta to understand, you know,
Speaker 2: she's not like everyone else. I could just take it
Speaker 2: off and you know, get another job. Like she needs
Speaker 2: to take all these opportunities as they come. And but
Speaker 2: that was not the first time she kind of denied
Speaker 2: something and then I don't. I just I just felt like, okay,
Speaker 2: you know what this relationship is going self, I need
Speaker 2: to revive this. I'm not doing what I did last
Speaker 2: relationship with the Italian girl and just letting it supply.
Speaker 2: I got to tell her how I feel right now.
Speaker 2: So I met up with her again. You know, we
Speaker 2: went out finally, we like got a day going because
Speaker 2: of with her schedule, and we went out for dessert
Speaker 2: and stuff and it was it was fun, but there
Speaker 2: was the was just tension. I was like, what the
Speaker 2: fuck's going on?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 2: And I'm like, I told her straight up, but like, look,
Speaker 2: if you want this to thing to work, I need more.
Speaker 2: I need more from you, Like I can't just I
Speaker 2: can't just be like you're you're upon in your life
Speaker 2: like I want to. I need to feel something. I
Speaker 2: don't feel anything, Like what's the point of being in
Speaker 2: a relationship if you can't have a feeling for each other?
Speaker 2: And she pretty much like told me straight up like
Speaker 2: I'm like, look, I just want you to be my
Speaker 2: girlfriend again, Like I just want to go back to
Speaker 2: where we were because I can't. I don't feel anything.
Speaker 2: I feel like i'm constantly seeking approval, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: this sucks. You know. That's not what it was before.
Speaker 2: This's not what I signed up for. This is not
Speaker 2: what I expected when you called me in September. So
Speaker 2: I told her straight up in November and I said,
Speaker 2: look like I need you to to settle down and
Speaker 2: just be like do you do you want this or not?
Speaker 2: And she goes like I want it. I just I'm like,
Speaker 2: what do you think of me? And she said like
Speaker 2: an X or something, and I'm like, an ex, I'm
Speaker 2: a fucking ex. Like I'm like, holy sh dude. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 2: I'm not your ex boyfriend. I'm not you. I'm not
Speaker 2: I'm not a person to like to sign up for
Speaker 2: a relationship to be an ex boyfriend. Like no, yeah, Like,
Speaker 2: I'm putting a lot of energy into you, and I'm
Speaker 2: doing things that I never did for any girl. Every
Speaker 2: relationship I needed, I needed a girl to love me
Speaker 2: as much as I love them, and if they didn't,
Speaker 2: then I would just match their energy. I was doing
Speaker 2: something like that. I did something I'd never done before
Speaker 2: for any any person. And I love someone without THEMB
Speaker 2: reciprocating that back. So I just pretty much told her.
Speaker 2: I said like, look, I'm like I need you to like,
Speaker 2: I'm not your ex I don't even honestly, I'm kind
Speaker 2: of forgetting a little bit, which means I'm healing. But
Speaker 2: then that that happened, it was really it was kind
Speaker 2: of rough, and I was really upset about that. I
Speaker 2: just wanted her to, like I invited her to another
Speaker 2: like event. I wanted to go out with her, and
Speaker 2: she goes, no, I don't want to do this. And
Speaker 2: the thing with her allle is because she's in Mexican.
Speaker 2: She grew up in Mexico. Winter sucks, Like winter sucks
Speaker 2: for everybody. I love winter, my birth days in winter.
Speaker 2: Like I'm a Canadian, so like winter is fun for me,
Speaker 2: like skiing and all that shit. But for her, winter sucks.
Speaker 2: Winter always sucks because Christmas time she's away from her family.
Speaker 2: Her parents are in Mexico. She doesn't have a lot
Speaker 2: of immediate family here. She can't go back. She's stuck
Speaker 2: in limbo in Canada. And I feel for her, so
Speaker 2: I want to make it like enlightening for him, like yeah,
Speaker 2: let's go out, let's let's go party, let's you know,
Speaker 2: come over, let's watch movies, let's do all this shit,
Speaker 2: but she wasn't having it because she didn't have any
Speaker 2: fucking time. Well, she doesn't have time for relationship. And
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, you know what, fuck it whatever, let
Speaker 2: her be, let her heal. She'll come back to you
Speaker 2: if it's meant to be. And then December came. I
Speaker 2: really wanted her to come for over for Christmas dinner.
Speaker 2: Like that was huge because last Christmas she didn't come
Speaker 2: for Christmas dinner because she got sick. I think I
Speaker 2: had to do with some sort of stress or something.
Speaker 2: It's always like this every single year. So I wanted
Speaker 2: her to come for Christmas dinner because I was like,
Speaker 2: this is it. My family's gonna see her again, She's
Speaker 2: gonna She came over for dinner one time with my
Speaker 2: other brother's girlfriend and that was nice. I was like,
Speaker 2: fuck yeah, let's do that more like that felt good.
Speaker 2: She didn't come for dinner. She was kind of I
Speaker 2: say she had a breakdown on Christmas Eve with her family.
Speaker 2: I think what ended up happening was her family. She
Speaker 2: tried to open up to her family about me, and
Speaker 2: they shut it down so quickly because I think I
Speaker 2: heard her so much in August that she just blacklisted
Speaker 2: me for her whole family, and everyone of her family
Speaker 2: fucking probably hated me, and she couldn't. She was scared
Speaker 2: to open up, and she never did, and she kind
Speaker 2: of shied away from it. And I think her her
Speaker 2: friend probably influenced it, because she kind of fucked someone
Speaker 2: over for paperwork, Like she literally got paperwork from this
Speaker 2: guy for three years and then ended up having a
Speaker 2: baby with another dude and just fucking used him for
Speaker 2: like it was fucked up, fucked up situation.
Speaker 3: And that was her best friend.
Speaker 1: And oh my god, this I'm sorry this woman did that.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is her. This is the Mexican
Speaker 2: girl's friend.
Speaker 3: Okay, yes, yeah, so it was not her, but.
Speaker 2: I was like, damn kind of fucked up, Like I
Speaker 2: didn't know, I can't do anything, like you know, it
Speaker 2: is what it is. Like, just don't get influenced by that.
Speaker 2: I don't think that's how it works. But anyways, so yeah,
Speaker 2: she after Christmas, we were gonna spend New Year's together,
Speaker 2: like I a book to Chalet. We were gonna have
Speaker 2: all four all of my brothers their girlfriends, you know,
Speaker 2: my girlfriend, as I thought two in New Year's because
Speaker 2: last year I spend New Years with her family and
Speaker 2: her her cousins and brothers and stuff. I didn't get
Speaker 2: to spend it with mine. So it's like, yeah, maybe
Speaker 2: she'll she'll do it fine, and this will be a
Speaker 2: good kind of telling if she's if she's tucking with it,
Speaker 2: you know, because in December she goes, yeah, let's do it.
Speaker 2: It'll be fun. And then she kind of, I guess
Speaker 2: maybe had that whole episode on Christmas and figured, Okay,
Speaker 2: I can't even I don't even know how to tell
Speaker 2: my family that I'm going to go spend New Years
Speaker 2: with this guy. So she told me, like straight up,
Speaker 2: she goes, I can't, I'm not going to go, and
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my gosh, here we go again, Like why,
Speaker 2: Like do you know how many times I'm defending you
Speaker 2: from my family, Like you're not making it easier. I
Speaker 2: just need you to to like show that you've loved
Speaker 2: me so I could just like be free if reminded
Speaker 2: from everyone telling me, like Michael, give up on this girl.
Speaker 2: And she just we just kind of and she just
Speaker 2: broke up. She gave up again, and it was like
Speaker 2: the same cycle. In August and I'm like, I told myself,
Speaker 2: I'm like, Michael, what did I What did I do wrong?
Speaker 2: In August, I said, Okay, I gave up with her
Speaker 2: so quickly. I said, Okay, that's not what I'm gonna
Speaker 2: do now. I'm gonna I'm not doing that. I'm not
Speaker 2: gonna give up on her. I'm gonna try because I
Speaker 2: think that she's just going through a little episode or
Speaker 2: a little phase. And I tried to remind her. I
Speaker 2: try to be like, oh I remember those times, remember this,
Speaker 2: remember that. And she was so stern. She was like, nah,
Speaker 2: I can't do this, like it's I'm gonna go back
Speaker 2: to Mexico. I missed my family, this and that, this
Speaker 2: and that. And I'm like no, no, no, no, no, I'm
Speaker 2: not doing this like I'm gonna fight because last time
Speaker 2: I didn't fight. So I text her like I left her.
Speaker 2: We left in tears whatever we were ending last episode,
Speaker 2: the second last episode of Stranger Things that comes to
Speaker 2: the story later because we watched Strange Things together and
Speaker 2: she pretty much said like I gave her all the
Speaker 2: stuff that she gave me throughout the relationship as like
Speaker 2: a way of love, because she used to send me
Speaker 2: like letters when she was in BC, like she used
Speaker 2: to she used to send me like paint, like little
Speaker 2: things that she did a little scrapboard she sent me
Speaker 2: over like a really sweet stuff that I kept and
Speaker 2: I for I sent the mental value and I just
Speaker 2: gave it all to her. And I'm like, look, remember
Speaker 2: remember this, oh shit, and he believes that out remember
Speaker 2: this person, Remember this person? What where were you in
Speaker 2: this space? And I try to like that's what that was.
Speaker 2: My attempt just makes you believe about that name. But anyways,
Speaker 2: then then uh uh. A week went by and like
Speaker 2: I said, once I'm out of this relationship, I'm out
Speaker 2: of this relationship. Like I texted her the night of
Speaker 2: I was really really like lost. I was like, what
Speaker 2: the fuck is going on? Like what do I do?
Speaker 2: Did I just lose? Did I just lose this girl?
Speaker 2: Did I just lose this girl? Like I don't even
Speaker 2: know what happened, Like everything happened so quickly. And I
Speaker 2: texted her and I pretty much told her. I said,
Speaker 2: don't give up on us or whatever, like whatever she
Speaker 2: told me, because I try to like be poetic with
Speaker 2: this ship. And then a week went by, two weeks
Speaker 2: went by and I'm like, all right, I don't know
Speaker 2: if she's gonna like New Year's one buy New Years
Speaker 2: was pretty hard? Like New Years was fun because I
Speaker 2: got to spend it with all my brothers, and I
Speaker 2: saved a lot of money because I would have paid
Speaker 2: a lot for her to like stay and ski and
Speaker 2: all that ship.
Speaker 1: What's What's what's your name?
Speaker 2: Man?
Speaker 1: What's your name?
Speaker 2: Michael?
Speaker 1: Michael Michael. I've actually been quite quite engrossed in your story.
Speaker 1: I truly have. I appreciate you sharing all of this
Speaker 1: with us. I've let you go on for a while
Speaker 1: because I kind of started to feel like I was
Speaker 1: listening to my own podcast, which is a good thing.
Speaker 1: You've told a very interesting story so far. But I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and ask you to cut to the end.
Speaker 2: Please do so. This is the end actually, so January,
Speaker 2: I was in I went away and she called me,
Speaker 2: and I told her, like, look, that's that's pretty much.
Speaker 2: I get that's it. It is what it is. And
Speaker 2: throughout the story, holy shit, forty minutes is crazy. Throughout
Speaker 2: the story. When I was away, she tried to get
Speaker 2: me back, trying to get me back, and I said, no,
Speaker 2: that's it. I'm not doing this again, and I was
Speaker 2: really like sentimental with it. I'm like, you know what,
Speaker 2: like I'm gonna call you. I want closure, and I
Speaker 2: think this is like the biggest thing that I want
Speaker 2: your advice on. I need closure with stuff like this,
Speaker 2: and the closure that I had was she called me
Speaker 2: a couple of times. I said, no, I sent her.
Speaker 2: I made some videos of the way to like kind
Speaker 2: of cope with it. I wanted to like danker for relationships.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to be too you know. I didn't
Speaker 2: want to let her down hard like I did last time,
Speaker 2: because that was guilty for me. So I told her
Speaker 2: straight up, I said, you know what.
Speaker 1: What what Okay, okay, okay, all right now now now
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make this a conversation instead of you telling
Speaker 1: me a story.
Speaker 2: Yes, please, Yeah, it was too long. It's long.
Speaker 1: No, it's I'm glad. I'm glad you told it. I
Speaker 1: enjoyed listening to it.
Speaker 2: It.
Speaker 1: Uh, it's definitely there's a lot of relatable things in
Speaker 1: there about Uh. I'm you're not the only one who
Speaker 1: I think navigates treacherous waters in this in this way.
Speaker 1: But how long how long has it been since you
Speaker 1: last talked to this person.
Speaker 2: It's been end of January, and I think the hardest
Speaker 2: part was I thought I came back and I said,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna see you again because we left off on FaceTime.
Speaker 2: We actually watched last episode of Stranger Things together and
Speaker 2: I said, Okay, I'm gonna see you at the end
Speaker 2: of February. And I just collect my things because I had,
Speaker 2: like I gave her computer, some money for for some
Speaker 2: ship that's showsing, and then some sweaters and stuff. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna see you one last time and then that's it.
Speaker 2: I thought, I really just needed that last kind of
Speaker 2: break the stick and move on. Didn't get that.
Speaker 1: So how do you feel now? Do you miss her?
Speaker 1: Are you?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: What's your deal?
Speaker 3: Lyle?
Speaker 2: I'm free, dude, Like I am. I have everything I
Speaker 2: need in my life. I have my my career is
Speaker 2: taking off right now. I got so many good people
Speaker 2: around me, I got good family. I'm like, I don't
Speaker 2: feel guilty for my success anymore. I don't feel I
Speaker 2: don't want her back. I just wanted to put a
Speaker 2: bow on this fairy tale we had. And I'm just
Speaker 2: I believe in her right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, stop real quick, there's no but dude, dude, what's
Speaker 1: your name again? I'm sorry you told me a billion times.
Speaker 2: Michael, Michael, Michael.
Speaker 1: Michael Myers, Michael Myers, Dude, we've been talking for so long.
Speaker 1: I thought that was a different call. Okay, Michael Myers, Dude,
Speaker 1: you want clo First of all, closure is not real.
Speaker 1: That's not a real thing that exists. Okay. You you had,
Speaker 1: First of all, the story you told me had about
Speaker 1: eight different moments of closure. And the truth is there's
Speaker 1: no such thing as closure. Life doesn't have a neat
Speaker 1: bow at the end, even at the even when you die,
Speaker 1: it's like you just die, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like you're it's grief, right, it's grief. It doesn't have closure.
Speaker 1: That's the hard thing is that there's no closure. It
Speaker 1: just ended.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: That's and I know it's a bummer take. But you
Speaker 1: got out good man. I mean, Jesus, Christ, Jesus, what
Speaker 1: do you want closure for? Dude? You got out good?
Speaker 1: You feet you you don't want her back. You seem
Speaker 1: like you feel great about life. You seem like you
Speaker 1: feel like you have great friends, like you have a
Speaker 1: great You're twenty four. You have a great life, dude,
Speaker 1: what do you want? Club? You have a great life, dude,
Speaker 1: you have a From what you're telling me, you have
Speaker 1: a great life. You have this uh way of existing
Speaker 1: and being that is coming off to me as we're
Speaker 1: having this conversation that feels as though you you you
Speaker 1: have a lust for life. You're an optimist, you know
Speaker 1: how to do shit. You know, you're twenty four. Like dude,
Speaker 1: just I I I I don't. I think if you
Speaker 1: really want my honest take, after listening to your entire
Speaker 1: story and hearing you say everything you just said right now,
Speaker 1: I think this fucking thing ended the best possible way
Speaker 1: that it could for you. Okay, don't ask for anything else.
Speaker 1: Don't don't, don't don't ask for anything else. What do
Speaker 1: you want? There's nothing else for There's nothing else for
Speaker 1: you to get, Dude, your career is taken off. You
Speaker 1: have great friends. You don't You're not you're not drowning
Speaker 1: in the feeling. You're not feeling woe is me, You're
Speaker 1: not like you like your life. You're not wondering, you're
Speaker 1: not worrying, You're just like, just what do you What
Speaker 1: the fuck do you want? What do you mean? When
Speaker 1: closure go live your life, dude, there is no closures.
Speaker 1: Go live, you go live the life that you're telling
Speaker 1: me right now that if you mean it, if you
Speaker 1: mean what you're saying, that you really do love your life,
Speaker 1: just live to live the life. Man, what are you talking?
Speaker 1: I can't fathom what you're missing. If that, if you
Speaker 1: were telling me, right, here's the thing, right, if you were,
Speaker 1: if you were getting all sad sack on me, if
Speaker 1: you were getting all sad sack on me and you
Speaker 1: were like, oh I miss her. I don't know what
Speaker 1: to do. I'm worrying, I'm dwelling, I'm this and anything.
Speaker 1: But dude, but the fact that you're coming out of
Speaker 1: here and you're like, oh, life is great. I'm actually
Speaker 1: I don't miss her at all. I I don't want
Speaker 1: her back, Like, but what what do you want? I
Speaker 1: don't understand what you want?
Speaker 2: Man. I think I'm more so. I think I'm just
Speaker 2: more more so disappointed and the character like she's shown me,
Speaker 2: and I'm just like, why couldn't I think? Why couldn't
Speaker 2: I see that before? Like you know, like why did
Speaker 2: she have to?
Speaker 1: Why couldn't you see that? But because you you couldn't
Speaker 1: see that before? Because you live life forwardly with the
Speaker 1: information that you have at the time in which you're living,
Speaker 1: and then you don't know You don't know anything until.
Speaker 1: You couldn't see that before because you don't have a
Speaker 1: crystal fucking ball that tells you the future. You only
Speaker 1: have your gut and whatever experience you have at the time,
Speaker 1: which sounds like it wasn't a lot because you only
Speaker 1: have so much time that you'd lived on the earth.
Speaker 1: So why couldn't you see that before?
Speaker 2: It?
Speaker 1: Because that's like, that's like saying why couldn't I see
Speaker 1: that before? That's like if you were like, uh, that's
Speaker 1: like if you turned around and you saw a tree
Speaker 1: and you were like, why couldn't I see that tree before?
Speaker 1: It's like because you couldn't see you weren't facing the
Speaker 1: direction of the tree. It's like it's like if you
Speaker 1: stare at a wall. It's like if it's like if
Speaker 1: you it's like if you were at home staring at
Speaker 1: a wall and then you went to the Empire State
Speaker 1: Building and you were like, why couldn't I Why couldn't
Speaker 1: I see the Empire State Building before when I was
Speaker 1: staring at the wall? It's because you weren't looking. It's
Speaker 1: just it's a stupid thing, you know, So like just live,
Speaker 1: just live, keep living your life, man, that don't you
Speaker 1: don't need anything more. Just keep living life forward, don't
Speaker 1: don't if if if, if you're not in, if you're
Speaker 1: not deeply uh shadowed by a pain that's forcing you
Speaker 1: to spiral and dwell, then then don't just live your life. Man.
Speaker 1: That's all I got to say about it.
Speaker 3: Sick man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I mean I kind of had like a
Speaker 2: that that thought of mine. I think it was just
Speaker 2: more so like I felt like we deserve a better
Speaker 2: ending in a way. And uh, that's what I'm kind
Speaker 2: of holding on too. It's like we had and I
Speaker 2: think a part of me is thinking I could have
Speaker 2: had that kind of nice ending that I had, and
Speaker 2: I had it on a phone call with her, but
Speaker 2: I didn't have it in person because I was I
Speaker 2: was away, and I could have had it if there
Speaker 2: was like a snowstorm. It's all these like what if But.
Speaker 1: Dude, dude, dude, dude, just first of all, right, listen,
Speaker 1: you got you got the Sopranos season finale of this relationship.
Speaker 1: You don't know what that means?
Speaker 2: Due, Yeah, that's a good prep best ending ever. I
Speaker 2: didn't watch the show, and I.
Speaker 3: Just know that.
Speaker 1: I also only know that anyway, whatever you got, just
Speaker 1: pit by that dude. Just fuck the dude. Endings are stupid.
Speaker 1: I really think they're stupid. Just you had great middles.
Speaker 1: Just pick a middle and have that be them ending. Mentally,
Speaker 1: why is why you obsessed with an ending? Like you know,
Speaker 1: endings stupid buildings.
Speaker 2: A good ending makes everything. A good ending makes everything better.
Speaker 1: What's your what's your name? Again? Man, Michael Michael, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry I did ten times.
Speaker 2: It's okay. I watched the podcast enough. I feel honored
Speaker 2: for you asking me what my name is. It makes
Speaker 2: you feel like, you know, listen back to this, yeah.
Speaker 1: Michael Michael. Michael's speaking of endings. I appreciate you sharing
Speaker 1: this whole story with us.
Speaker 2: This was.
Speaker 1: This was nice. I think almost I almost feel like
Speaker 1: the way in which I'm ending this call is similar
Speaker 1: to the way in which the relationship ended, where it's like,
Speaker 1: we don't have a nice bow to wrap this up in.
Speaker 1: It's just we heard the story and I gave my
Speaker 1: feedback and it's over. But that's life. You know, life
Speaker 1: doesn't end with the bow. It's not you know, you're
Speaker 1: a filmmaker. You make stuff. You try to end things
Speaker 1: with a bow, but it just doesn't. It just keeps going.
Speaker 1: But that's not something to grieve. You know. You have
Speaker 1: your own little ways in which you can wrap things
Speaker 1: up with a bow and live your life. But like dude,
Speaker 1: I don't have to tell you you know any more times,
Speaker 1: but just go go live your life. Man. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: proud of you after hearing this whole story, I'm proud
Speaker 1: of you, Mike. I think you should keep living your life.
Speaker 1: I'm rooting for you. So you know your story is
Speaker 1: still being written. Nothing's you know, you're not dead man,
Speaker 1: Just just keep going all right?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm then is there.
Speaker 1: Anything else do I say to the people of the
Speaker 1: computer before we go?
Speaker 2: I think the most important thing is, like a young teenager,
Speaker 2: is to have good role models, to found yourself with
Speaker 2: good role models, whether you're consuming content with good role models,
Speaker 2: and because it always helps you guide yourself through life.
Speaker 2: And uh, Jake holds the goat. So yeah, it's about it.
Speaker 1: Awesome. Hey, thank you, Mike, I appreciate you for sharing.
Speaker 3: Thanks Chole, Hey have a good night, man.
Speaker 1: But that was Mike and I. I and I don't
Speaker 1: have any post call thoughts. We left, well, I left,
Speaker 1: I left all my thoughts in the call. Hello, yep,
Speaker 1: what's your name?
Speaker 2: Brother?
Speaker 1: How you doing?
Speaker 3: I'm pretty good.
Speaker 1: My name is Simon, Simon, Simon and Garfuncles, Simon the
Speaker 1: the Tertiary Chipmunk from Alvin and the Chipmunks. Simon Cowell.
Speaker 3: Oh, Simon cow is a good one.
Speaker 1: Simon says, who is the Simon? And Simon says, let's
Speaker 1: look that up right now and then we'll get to
Speaker 1: whatever it is you wanted to talk about. Hold On Simon.
Speaker 3: Said, said, I honestly have no fucking clue. I have
Speaker 3: no clue. I never understood what Simon said. And if
Speaker 3: he says something, where.
Speaker 1: Does it come from? What's the uh? What's I thought?
Speaker 3: You know? If it's an American thing, isn't it?
Speaker 1: I didn't know? It says it's Irish? Actually, no way.
Speaker 1: You know what's interesting is that? Actually? Okay? No, In
Speaker 1: Ireland the game is called O'Grady says, which is kind
Speaker 1: of a I don't I don't think that plays very well. Uh.
Speaker 1: On The Wikipedia page for Simon says there is no
Speaker 1: information about the origin of it.
Speaker 2: What the hell?
Speaker 1: I probably someone named fucking Simon who wanted power. That's
Speaker 1: what I asked. The best Uh, that's the best part
Speaker 1: of being Simon is all the power. Uh, Simon, what
Speaker 1: did you want to talk about today? Uh?
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know, obviously, I don't know if you
Speaker 3: uh where the text messages? But uh, you know, life
Speaker 3: has been crazy. LiF's being a kid life. Uh kids
Speaker 3: from being crazy and just never proved me wrong every
Speaker 3: fucking day.
Speaker 1: Well, how is it crazy? I don't know.
Speaker 3: I feel like things I've moved to the state, I've
Speaker 3: I've experienced new stuff that I thought I would never
Speaker 3: experience before. I've done stuff that I thought I've never
Speaker 3: don do before. And I don't want to have to
Speaker 3: be necessarily the fact that me we copy here. It's
Speaker 3: that it's just a matter of me meet my own person.
Speaker 3: So in my own person, I would never I wouldn't
Speaker 3: have thought about trying new things like this in the country.
Speaker 1: Where where are you from?
Speaker 3: I'm prom italy?
Speaker 1: Oh why did you come here?
Speaker 3: I've met my wife on kick a long time ago.
Speaker 3: I don't know if you remember Kick that messaging.
Speaker 1: K I K yeah, k I K yeah whatever happened
Speaker 1: to Kick, bro, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I know it's still out there doing this thing. Who knows.
Speaker 3: I tried to get it back just for FUNDI, but
Speaker 3: it's just not the same anymore.
Speaker 1: But Kick is like but it's that's like saying I
Speaker 1: met my wife on Telegram or something, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, it's is Kick like a place where
Speaker 1: you Kick seems like a place where, like a messaging app,
Speaker 1: where you meet people that you are, where you talk
Speaker 1: to people who already know No, no.
Speaker 3: No, you're right, you're right. I mean I met her
Speaker 3: on Instagram, but then we've switched on Kick and talk
Speaker 3: started talking each other every day, and then from there
Speaker 3: we went from a meeting person and all that stuff
Speaker 3: and then in the end getting married wow and all
Speaker 3: of it.
Speaker 1: Wow. So okay, and you are from Italy and where?
Speaker 1: And she's an American?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's an American. Wow.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you met on Instagram while you were living
Speaker 1: in where? Where? In Italy?
Speaker 3: I was living in close close to Naples, in a
Speaker 3: town close to Naples.
Speaker 1: And where was she living?
Speaker 3: She was living here in Florida.
Speaker 1: Oh okay? And what was the Instagram exchange?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 3: I don't know. You know, back then, back then, I
Speaker 3: used to be use a big social media guy. I
Speaker 3: used to I used to post shit about myself from
Speaker 3: me going to gym, me doing that, me doing that.
Speaker 3: And of course I was a pretty good, good looking
Speaker 3: guy back then, at least consider myself pretty good looking.
Speaker 3: Back then. I was confident enough that I was able
Speaker 3: to put some girls on that app on Instagram back then,
Speaker 3: and it was it was easier back then, and.
Speaker 1: It was it was easy. Why was it easier for
Speaker 1: you to Was it because of algorithm changes or did
Speaker 1: you get fat?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I just I feel like I was confident in myself
Speaker 3: mostly That's why I it was easier.
Speaker 1: Did yeah okay, okay, yeah okay, yeah. So you were
Speaker 1: like a fitness influencer kind of guy.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no, no no no, I'm just a
Speaker 3: regular guy. Bro mm hmm, just a regular guy. But anyway,
Speaker 3: I know nothing even just from there, I just she
Speaker 3: caught my attention. Just we started talking. She was the one, actually,
Speaker 3: she was the one was the first thing, the first
Speaker 3: took the first step and act if we wanted to
Speaker 3: do something more, and then we went we went from
Speaker 3: there and then they did for for a couple of
Speaker 3: years and then go married. We've been married for ten years.
Speaker 3: It's gonna be ten years.
Speaker 1: Whoa, you've been married for ten years?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Holy shit? How how old are you?
Speaker 3: I'm thirty?
Speaker 1: Oh well, you guys got married when you were twenty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, on the early twenties. I know.
Speaker 1: Jeez, man, I know.
Speaker 3: Definitely a It's definitely a fucking wild ride. Brother.
Speaker 1: Wow. So when did you move to America?
Speaker 3: Moved to America back in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: Wow, so okay, so yeah, right when you got married?
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah. The funny thing is, I was waiting for some
Speaker 3: stuff for me to come over here in the state
Speaker 3: legally and stuff. I was I the meantime, I was
Speaker 3: I really about the tickets. I was already planning to
Speaker 3: come over here, get the wedding start and everything. And
Speaker 3: I literally got my paper to come over here literally
Speaker 3: the couple of days before my wedding. So let's say
Speaker 3: I didn't get the paper in Italy, I wouldn't be
Speaker 3: able to come over here and attend my wedding at all,
Speaker 3: because we planned it over here in the States, not
Speaker 3: in Italy.
Speaker 1: And is she the same age as you?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, she'd say it to me. She's actually four months.
Speaker 1: Than cool.
Speaker 2: Cool.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so what do you do? How often do
Speaker 1: you go back to the state. How often do you
Speaker 1: go back to Italy?
Speaker 3: I try to go back at least once a year.
Speaker 3: But we're planning to move there. I feel like it's
Speaker 3: a little over here. It's becoming a little too crazy
Speaker 3: for our case.
Speaker 1: WHOA really Yeah, see, Florida is the most American place,
Speaker 1: one might say, right, and.
Speaker 3: Actually, bro, I honestly don't blame you if you don't
Speaker 3: have any tour down here, because I checked your list
Speaker 3: and you know you don't have anything down here.
Speaker 1: Oh in Florida. Oh, there's no particular reason why. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Maybe I'll add something in Florida. Usually I'll
Speaker 1: do like Tampa, Orlando or something, or miamid something in Florida.
Speaker 1: But shit, man, maybe I'll add something in uh in Italy.
Speaker 1: I was wanting to do Rome.
Speaker 3: Shit. I know you were there for your schooling stuff, right, yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Damn. I just can't believe I mentioned that. Yeah
Speaker 1: I did. I did stand up there like ten years
Speaker 1: ago something like that, when I was when I was studying.
Speaker 3: That's crazy. I probably was there at the same time
Speaker 3: as you and Rome, because by that period in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 3: I was in Rome as well. I wonder if I
Speaker 3: have will pass you totally well. Culture, What do I
Speaker 3: think about Italian culture? Yeah? Culture and food, dude, I.
Speaker 1: Love I actually I love Italian food. I love the
Speaker 1: all those pizzerias. I love the Iran Irancini all mine
Speaker 1: I had. I had a great time in Rome, man,
Speaker 1: I really did. That was kind of my first time
Speaker 1: like that. That was That was actually kind of where
Speaker 1: I first started like falling in love with like traveling
Speaker 1: and having like weird adventures and stuff. I don't time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I missed. I miss uh Italy. I've been back to
Speaker 1: Europe a bunch of times, like do shows and stuff,
Speaker 1: but I have never been back to to to Italy since.
Speaker 3: Oh it's the shame.
Speaker 1: But people there had a good vibe. People that had
Speaker 1: a good vibe. I remember. I don't know if this
Speaker 1: was I don't know if this was like more reflective
Speaker 1: of like who I was at the time, or if
Speaker 1: it was more reflective of just like the the vibe
Speaker 1: of the place rather. But I found that people would
Speaker 1: talk to each other more on the subway and whatnot? Right?
Speaker 1: Do you feel that way like people see people in uh,
Speaker 1: Italy are a little bit more open, it seems th
Speaker 1: people in America? Is that Do you think that's true?
Speaker 1: That's true?
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, yes it is. It's they're more like cordial
Speaker 3: over there. It's more about it's a lot that you
Speaker 3: care about, a lot about respect like there obviously always
Speaker 3: it always. It's also import and how you present yourself
Speaker 3: and stuff to them, you know, especially the old people
Speaker 3: over there that really uh you know niche about uh,
Speaker 3: just people in general. But he you know, I I
Speaker 3: agree with you, I agree with you, and over there
Speaker 3: a lot just slow paced. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: notice way more slow paced?
Speaker 1: Did did you fucking move from Naples, Italy and to Naples, Florida?
Speaker 3: Bro Brother? Close close enough, close enough, that's all I
Speaker 3: gotta say.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's that. That's a bit of a downgrade for Naples.
Speaker 3: I know, I don't know. Mama wife. You know, my wife,
Speaker 3: she shows that shit in my face every day. I
Speaker 3: don't have to, uh, I know, I know. She always
Speaker 3: tells me that she wants to get married in Italy.
Speaker 3: I don't, I don't. I don't blame her, but you know,
Speaker 3: back then we were sucking young. I don't want to
Speaker 3: come over here and live some life, live a different life.
Speaker 1: So you guys are gonna move to Italy. Are you
Speaker 1: excited about that? Or are you gonna miss America?
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm excited because I'm gonna be with
Speaker 3: my family. My whole family's over there. I'm the only
Speaker 3: one over here, so that's the positive side. Also, I've
Speaker 3: been doing more stuff because I've noticed that since I
Speaker 3: moved over here, then just the constant of fucking working, working,
Speaker 3: go go home there, community games, eat dinner, go to gym,
Speaker 3: fucking go to sleep, repeat, repeat, repeat, every fucking day.
Speaker 3: I don't know. In Italy, I used to be able
Speaker 3: to do more stuff. I used to be playing I
Speaker 3: used to play soccer a lot with my friends. My
Speaker 3: brothers used to go out just you know, for a
Speaker 3: pizza or something, just to eat it out there on
Speaker 3: the beach or all these little things. Bro. You know,
Speaker 3: it makes you makes you miss it, of course, my home.
Speaker 3: But I would also like it here. I want to
Speaker 3: say I do like it. It's just it's more definitely
Speaker 3: a different, a different thing. It's like black and white.
Speaker 3: So mm hmmm mm hmmmm.
Speaker 1: Is your wife gonna work down in uh? Are you
Speaker 1: guys moving to Naples? Like where in Italy are you going?
Speaker 3: No, we're moving close to Naples, in a small town
Speaker 3: where I used to be.
Speaker 1: Oh, you're gonna you guys are moving to a small
Speaker 1: Italian town like your hometown.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's her. We're not gonna be
Speaker 3: We're just gonna be there. We're just gonna be there
Speaker 3: for the meantime because we're gonna have to steal my
Speaker 3: parents at least six months just trying to figure it out.
Speaker 3: What's my job? But what's my What am I gonna do?
Speaker 3: Job wise? And if we're gonna get end up getting
Speaker 3: an apartment or house or anything like that, you know.
Speaker 3: But she is not going to work over there. She's
Speaker 3: gonna be a full time mother because we're planning to
Speaker 3: have a kid over there.
Speaker 1: Oh cool first one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, very excited one. I am. I am. I'm
Speaker 3: always excited about her. I'm excited about myself, and I'm
Speaker 3: glad that we waited all this time because I feel
Speaker 3: like having a kid way too young and getting married
Speaker 3: too young is a really is I wat too much?
Speaker 3: Per se and having a kid just add more weight
Speaker 3: and more responsibilities. I really didn't feel like it wouldn't
Speaker 3: be good for us at the beginning. Nothing bad for
Speaker 3: other people. I'm not just speaking for my own self,
Speaker 3: but yeah, but I'm definitely excited about it, and my
Speaker 3: wife is ready and I'm ready, and I think we're mature,
Speaker 3: and you know, it's going to be nice to see
Speaker 3: a little little Simon or little Ileana walking around house.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: That'd be nice.
Speaker 3: Man, mm hmmm.
Speaker 1: So well, actually, I don't know if we got into this,
Speaker 1: but did you uh uh mention a specific reason or
Speaker 1: thing that you wanted to talk about? Are just kind
Speaker 1: of the ups and downs of life?
Speaker 3: I just no, just I mean, like I said, it's
Speaker 3: just it's there was the stuff that I tried over here,
Speaker 3: and like also doing drugs. That was part of my
Speaker 3: life too, A little bit of thought I did. And
Speaker 3: this is my wife. She doesn't know. Luckily she doesn't
Speaker 3: listen to this podcast. I did cooking. I never ever
Speaker 3: thought of my life could be cooking, but I tried it.
Speaker 3: It was fun and that's it. And currently I'm we're
Speaker 3: doing just we're just smoking a pan, me and my wife.
Speaker 3: My wife She was always against this kind of stuff,
Speaker 3: and now she ends up doing the same thing I do.
Speaker 3: She kind of accepted it, and she like that now
Speaker 3: she enjoyed it. You know, we do it every time
Speaker 3: played from art Credit, Fortnite and Night with the Family
Speaker 3: and this end of the time. Oh yeah, but yeah,
Speaker 3: quite quite the new ship.
Speaker 1: So she doesn't know that you once did cocaine.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: No, she will when she she would kill you. How
Speaker 1: long ago did you do it?
Speaker 3: How long I was?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 3: I was not nothing crazy. It was literally just maybe
Speaker 3: I tried it for like maybe four times in a
Speaker 3: span of two months.
Speaker 1: No, I mean how long ago was it? It's not
Speaker 1: like you did cocaine last Thursday.
Speaker 3: Oh it was a couple of years ago. It was
Speaker 3: a couple of years ago. Okay, Yeah, nothing crazy m hm.
Speaker 1: And yeah, so you guys, you guys are pen hitters.
Speaker 3: You were were pen hitters. I used to be a
Speaker 3: I give up. I gave up on the the with
Speaker 3: that thing that you smoked, the pipe because I end
Speaker 3: up getting obliterated on that mother Parker end. And you
Speaker 3: don't want to see me like that, bro. Honestly, my
Speaker 3: wife she's seen enough.
Speaker 1: Now when you guys, go to Italy, you're gonna have
Speaker 1: to give up the drugs. I think. I think it's
Speaker 1: pretty illegal there and know that.
Speaker 3: You know what, I don't give a fuck. It's whatever
Speaker 3: life comes and goes, and honestly, I think it will be.
Speaker 3: We be better off without it, especially if're gonna planning
Speaker 3: to have a kid anyway, so kind of gotta be responsible.
Speaker 1: It's not true, it's true. It's true. It's true.
Speaker 3: Yeah, what about you. My name is Simon.
Speaker 1: Simon, Simon Cowell. Dude, cool. Does your wife speak Italian?
Speaker 3: Yeah, she's actually she's more like uh and uh. She
Speaker 3: she understands it more than she speaks it. She can
Speaker 3: speak it. She's just really shy and she really felt
Speaker 3: aware of herself. She's like, dude, I started, I started.
Speaker 3: I do the same fucking thing. I used to do
Speaker 3: the same thing with English. I've just got out I
Speaker 3: especially when I moved over here. I had to deal
Speaker 3: with it. I had to start speaking with people, and
Speaker 3: she I am, I'm pretty sure you can steak you
Speaker 3: a little bit of my accent, but there's nothing I
Speaker 3: can do.
Speaker 1: I thought, I actually I thought you were like Latin American.
Speaker 3: Oh boy, even on the phone.
Speaker 1: Oh no, do you get this a lot?
Speaker 2: Oh? My god?
Speaker 3: Brother? So they you just look at me, and they
Speaker 3: are actually a few matematically domagic Cuban Argentinian.
Speaker 1: Well it's well, dude, I mean you're you're you live
Speaker 1: in fucking Florida. I feel like Italians are not like
Speaker 1: I mean, Italian Americans are are rampant amongst America, but
Speaker 1: I like Italian Italians are not. Really. Uh oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, I know around Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you know any curse ward in Italian?
Speaker 1: I know Alfan Coulo.
Speaker 3: Oh good one. Okay, that's it.
Speaker 1: Do you guys, if you want to teach me before
Speaker 1: we go, hit me with a couple, I.
Speaker 3: Can teach you. Uh thronso Petrda. The worst one is
Speaker 3: port cordeo. But that's for people that you know are religious.
Speaker 1: That's that's God as a pig, right.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's got my favorite one. Another lie or cordeo
Speaker 3: orc something like that.
Speaker 1: Okay, what are the man?
Speaker 3: The ocanan means it's basically calling God a.
Speaker 1: Dog, pretty much, come of a dog?
Speaker 3: No, no, calling God a dog pretty much.
Speaker 1: Okay, So these are mainly just curses towards God.
Speaker 3: Yeah, bro, in my language, in my dialect, we have
Speaker 3: so many curse words. We can literally just start cursing
Speaker 3: your ancestors and your mother's incestors and all that bullshit.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. My language is crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, Simon, personally, I hope your answer. Ancestors are doing great?
Speaker 2: You bro?
Speaker 1: Course, what the fuck is there anything us you want
Speaker 1: to say to the people of the computer before we go?
Speaker 3: Ah, enjoy life and just be kind. I thank you
Speaker 3: for thinking my call. Brother.
Speaker 1: Hey, of course, man, get bless yet blessed brother. Yes,
Speaker 1: Simon forever, Simon forever. Recon goes on the line taking
Speaker 1: your phone calls every night. Deacon goes to side. You're
Speaker 1: just teaching you a loud your life. Monday's not really
Speaker 1: an expert.