WEBVTT - “I TRIED SO HARD TO MAKE IT WORK”

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, Hey, what's up man? What's your name?

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<v Speaker 2>Michael Man? How are you?

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<v Speaker 1>Michael, Michael Myers, Mike No Bateman. That's a guy I

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<v Speaker 1>went to college with. Uh, Mike Myers. Mike Myers is

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<v Speaker 1>the Saturday Night Live was he was Mike Myers on

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<v Speaker 1>Saturday Night Live.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know him.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, uh, yeah, he played the cat in the

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<v Speaker 1>Hat and the Hat film.

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<v Speaker 2>Did he did the Doctor Evil stuff?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>This is crazy. I'm like, I'm like I've been obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>I watched, like most people listen to it, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think I'm a unique listener because I listened to you

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<v Speaker 2>when I go to bed. Oh, You're like my You're

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<v Speaker 2>like my nightly routine.

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<v Speaker 3>You become my nay routine.

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<v Speaker 2>So every night it would be like, instead of instead

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<v Speaker 2>of scrolling and like bleeding my eyes out on Instagram

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<v Speaker 2>because you know how long those doom scrolls could be,

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<v Speaker 2>I would just put on a liile, put a fifteen

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<v Speaker 2>minute timer and then listen to other people's problems and

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<v Speaker 2>it helps me to set my own.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome, awesome, thanks man, I appreciate I'm truly I'm honored

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<v Speaker 1>to hear that I could be a part of your

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<v Speaker 1>nightly routine. Brother, I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>M Yeah, you're like.

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Myers, man, it's cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I don't know if you read the message. It's

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny because I always listened to you, like whether

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<v Speaker 2>I put you on on my way home or and

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<v Speaker 2>or go to go into bed, but I never really

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<v Speaker 2>had I'm like, damn, I want to speak to him

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<v Speaker 2>because I fuck with him, but I never had something

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<v Speaker 2>real to talk about. But now I do. Now It's

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<v Speaker 2>like I feel like this is like a perfect conversation

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<v Speaker 2>to have with the get go. So I'm like I've

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<v Speaker 2>manifested it, like I just I'm like, okay, I got

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<v Speaker 2>to get this guy on live. So I just followed

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<v Speaker 2>you on Instagram. And then you're like, okay, I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know how it worked.

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't watch live themes. I found you on clips

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<v Speaker 2>like most people three years ago, and I just watched

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<v Speaker 2>them Spotify, so I didn't know how it worked. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I just you posted on Instagram. I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>let me just span this guy. No, you probably should

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<v Speaker 2>put like the one and then your number because a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of people probably don't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>So hit us with the thing man, would you want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about anyways?

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<v Speaker 2>So well, the punchline is I dated a legal immigrant

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<v Speaker 2>for the past two years and I went against everyone's

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<v Speaker 2>advice and then we broke up, and I guess I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to start off with like the idea of,

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm twenty four, I'm fairly young. I have everything

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<v Speaker 2>kind of provided for me. My family immigrated to Canada

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<v Speaker 2>like in the sixties, like most Italian families, and like

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<v Speaker 2>my grandparents set like their life up, and my parents

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<v Speaker 2>set my life up, so I'm like their generation, and

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<v Speaker 2>everything was like, everything's going well in my life. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just recently got out of a breakup, like in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty three, in January, and that was because during

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<v Speaker 2>COVID obviously, like it was a hard time for everybody,

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<v Speaker 2>but I was like, I just I felt like the

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<v Speaker 2>need for a relationship because I wasn't messing with my

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<v Speaker 2>friends at the time. So thankfully I finally got into

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<v Speaker 2>like some sort of relationship that was organic that lasted,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, two and a half years, three years, first

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<v Speaker 2>love kind of thing. It was good. But the thing

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<v Speaker 2>with this girl was she was always spoiled and stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>and I didn't fuck with it. So I just had

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<v Speaker 2>to move on right. She was bratty. But then comes

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<v Speaker 2>like a month later, I'm over here. I'm like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what, I don't want to rebound. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to go to a party school and just fuck girls,

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<v Speaker 2>hook up, do whatever. So I went to God. Obviously.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, hey, you know what, I got Saint

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<v Speaker 2>Michael on my arm. Let me see if I could

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<v Speaker 2>find God right now, let me do this right, join

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<v Speaker 2>the join the what's it called. I don't even know

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<v Speaker 2>what it's called? Angelic a jelous. I'm sort of church

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<v Speaker 2>that was like Bible studies. It was cool until they

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<v Speaker 2>like told me like get baptized again. And I was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>i'm a.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a. I'm okay with being a non disciple for now.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'll take God for what I think he is

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<v Speaker 2>and create my own relationship. These guys are like my

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<v Speaker 2>car broke down and my bills are not paid, but

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<v Speaker 2>but God's on my side. I'm like, all right, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm gonna get out of here now. So I

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<v Speaker 2>just got out of that and then I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, you know, I tried God tried the rebound.

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<v Speaker 2>This not working, let me just go with my guys.

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<v Speaker 2>So ironically, I went out with these guys. We went

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<v Speaker 2>to we went out for like a bar the drinks,

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<v Speaker 2>and I found my my friends from high school that

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't talked to in years, and we went out

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<v Speaker 2>one night. And then I found this girl. And I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to get into another relationship, but after my

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<v Speaker 2>first one, I honestly just wanted to travel the world

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<v Speaker 2>and be like a nomad for a little bit. But

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<v Speaker 2>I found this girl, and you know, I connected with her.

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<v Speaker 2>And she like she's from Mexico, and she barely spoke

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<v Speaker 2>English when I taught when I talked to her, but

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<v Speaker 2>I felt like this connection and as you could see,

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<v Speaker 2>like I really enjoy talking. You'll get a lot from

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<v Speaker 2>this call, but so coming off anytime you have a question.

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<v Speaker 2>But and she obviously didn't speak like full sentences, but

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<v Speaker 2>I had like this connection with her, so I thought,

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was like like God or something, right,

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<v Speaker 2>So I just went out with this girl a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of times. And at first it was just for fun.

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<v Speaker 2>It was just you know, going out dating scene. Like

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<v Speaker 2>it's always like the best phase when you kind of

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<v Speaker 2>meet a girl when you connect with them and you

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<v Speaker 2>do the dates and all that stuff. And this girl

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<v Speaker 2>taught me that, like, oh I could love again, because

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<v Speaker 2>like a week before this, I was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>curled up like damn man, like I've just missed this,

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<v Speaker 2>my accent, this and that. Like but over over the time,

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<v Speaker 2>like three months or so, I had the best time

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<v Speaker 2>with this girl, Like oh my god, it was like

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<v Speaker 2>pure euphoric. It was like pure fairy tale like most

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<v Speaker 2>early relationships. I never asked her out though, because I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want another girlfriend, but I just enjoyed her time.

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<v Speaker 3>And then June came along.

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<v Speaker 2>We spent so much time together, like we it was

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<v Speaker 2>probably every other day. My parents were like who's this girl?

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<v Speaker 2>And then every persons like Michael, what are you doing

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<v Speaker 2>with this girl? What are you doing with this girl?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, well, you just leave me alone. Just

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<v Speaker 2>let me have fun. I'm just having fun, just having fun.

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<v Speaker 2>And then she told me in after June like it

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<v Speaker 2>was it was like the epitome of our our love

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<v Speaker 2>and it was like really everything was going good, and

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, Okay, you know what, maybe I might

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<v Speaker 2>try with this girl. She told me she's moving across

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<v Speaker 2>the country for work in the summer, and I sat

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<v Speaker 2>to myself and I remember I was we were on

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<v Speaker 2>a beach and she just sat me down and she

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<v Speaker 2>told me the news that she's going for the summer

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<v Speaker 2>for work. And I was just like, okay, it's June.

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<v Speaker 2>I could clearly just say all right, cool, that was

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<v Speaker 2>fun and have like a halfway summer. But there was

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<v Speaker 2>something in me. There was something in me that was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>like I gotta try with this girl. I gotta see you.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like because in my previous relationship I spent I

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<v Speaker 2>would say, too much time with my ex girlfriend. It's

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<v Speaker 2>way too much time. So this one, I'm like, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what, maybe this is good. Maybe this is good

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<v Speaker 2>because if someone's away from me, I'm able to know

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<v Speaker 2>I work a lot in the summer, I'm able to

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<v Speaker 2>work and I have like that companionship through text or

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<v Speaker 2>through call, and then maybe I could go and visit

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<v Speaker 2>throughout the summer. So I so I just asked her

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<v Speaker 2>on the spot. I said, all right, well I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to leave you, so here you go, like, because

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<v Speaker 2>let's shy it out and let's do this. So obviously

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<v Speaker 2>said yes, and it was like a very weird time

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<v Speaker 2>in my life because I was like, why am I

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<v Speaker 2>doing this? Like this is this nothing seems right. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>telling everyone about it, and they're all like, Michael, what

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<v Speaker 2>this Like what are you doing? Dude? Like do you

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<v Speaker 2>really like this girl? Like you have yourr you got everything,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't need to like settle down and that that

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<v Speaker 2>that's kind of a theme that carried out throughout this relationship.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of people thought I was like settling down

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<v Speaker 2>with this person and like thinking of this person as

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<v Speaker 2>less than because obviously she doesn't have paperwork and all

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<v Speaker 2>this shit. But fast forward, I spend the summer. Summer

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<v Speaker 2>was all right, you know, it was a little hard

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<v Speaker 2>bumped because of my first long distance relationship, and I said, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>fuck it, like spend a month there. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>ended up going spending like three weeks in at this place,

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<v Speaker 2>and we traveled and we did a bunch, We just

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<v Speaker 2>ded so many memories together, right, and then fast forward

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<v Speaker 2>I left for Spain and it was like the hardest,

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<v Speaker 2>probably the hardest thing in my life where I love wise,

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<v Speaker 2>where I looked at her and we were both confused

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<v Speaker 2>because this place was she wanted to move out. She

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<v Speaker 2>wanted to move out. She wanted someone to like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of move out with her and stuff, but she never

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<v Speaker 2>told me. I was just kind of insisted. So this

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<v Speaker 2>place it was Vancouver, and we went to Vancouver, and honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>lylet I don't know if you've been, you've probably been

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<v Speaker 2>on tours. I don't like Vancouver, like.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Vancouver, Vancouver is a nice place.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's it's I think North Vancouver is great.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in Toronto, and I don't know. Maybe it's just

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<v Speaker 2>the like I like being able to walk out and

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<v Speaker 2>like be swallowed by skyscrapers. I liked the lake, but

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<v Speaker 2>I just I went down East has things. I took

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<v Speaker 2>the bus to the Freak and Fair. Damn, it's just

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<v Speaker 2>a zombie lance sometimes. And I think it was a

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<v Speaker 2>mixture of everything, though I think it was. I was

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<v Speaker 2>hanging out with a lot of her Spanish friends and.

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<v Speaker 3>I was like, damn, man, mich what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 2>Like this is not where you want to be, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to go to Vancouver, move to Vancouver

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<v Speaker 2>and and pay like all this rent and like try

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<v Speaker 2>to make it work and I have everything set up

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<v Speaker 2>in front of Why would I do that? To myself.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, North Vancouver was beautiful, like Client's Bay, squamish,

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<v Speaker 2>like we did a bleunch of hikes there, but I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, like I think I was a little homesick.

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<v Speaker 2>So I remember leaving her. I remember telling her on

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<v Speaker 2>the boardwalk. It was like the first kind of argument

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<v Speaker 2>we had. And yeah, I left her on the boardwalk

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<v Speaker 2>and we I just told her straight up, I'm like, look,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to move here, like I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to I don't want this place, like I'm whether it's homesick,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't feel comfortable this and that, And it was

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<v Speaker 2>like the first type of like argument, not argument, but

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<v Speaker 2>this this this silent treatment, which is like a pattern

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<v Speaker 2>from like here and for the last two years, and

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much there's so many other details. I'd rather do

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<v Speaker 2>you ask questions than I answer. But when I left

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<v Speaker 2>in Spain, she literally she said like, Okay, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll work it out. We'll work it out, we'll work

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<v Speaker 2>it out. It's everything was like, we'll work it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Went to Spain. It was really it was really hard

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<v Speaker 2>to like process everything. And then she finally then in October,

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<v Speaker 2>another hiccup happened where she you know, she was staying

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<v Speaker 2>for work because then again like these these these people

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<v Speaker 2>like like when they come here and they overstay, they

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<v Speaker 2>don't have a lot of selection, right, And I think

0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:39.640
<v Speaker 2>she opened up my eyes to that, Like she made

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<v Speaker 2>me a lot more grateful of like my life and

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<v Speaker 2>that's what I'm thankful for. But she doesn't have a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of selections, so she just goes wherever work is.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just told myself, I was like, look, man, like,

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<v Speaker 2>if you love this girl, everything will work out. And

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<v Speaker 2>in October she told me that she might stay the

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<v Speaker 2>Vancouver for school, the same school that was was an

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<v Speaker 2>Ilac And I'm like, dude, why, like I haven't even

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<v Speaker 2>dated you for for for like a month. I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>even we haven't even been in person dating for a

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<v Speaker 2>month yet, How am I? How am I going to?

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<v Speaker 2>Like I'm a very you know, like physical person when

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<v Speaker 2>it comes to like physical touches like a love language

0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:20.040
<v Speaker 2>of mine, I can't really like do the long distance forever, right,

0:11:20.280 --> 0:11:22.959
<v Speaker 2>I need like a goal in mind. So she made

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<v Speaker 2>the decision to come back to Toronto, not for me,

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<v Speaker 2>but he shows a couple of her family members here too,

0:11:27.920 --> 0:11:30.040
<v Speaker 2>and just everything stress was a little bit too much

0:11:30.080 --> 0:11:32.640
<v Speaker 2>and she needed that support, so she came back. She

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<v Speaker 2>we we did a lot of like trips together to

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<v Speaker 2>like kind of bond. But I think the pattern was this,

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<v Speaker 2>I always felt really amazing with her by myself. Every

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<v Speaker 2>time I brought around my family, it was like awkward

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<v Speaker 2>about it. My family's very supportive, but I just felt

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<v Speaker 2>a little awkward, and she felt a little scared and

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<v Speaker 2>stressed because of obviously she's a little insecure about her

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<v Speaker 2>situation and she doesn't want people to know and all

0:11:56.600 --> 0:11:58.800
<v Speaker 2>that stuff. And when I brought around my friends, it

0:11:58.920 --> 0:12:00.720
<v Speaker 2>was just kind of awkward, but because she didn't know

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<v Speaker 2>the language too well. But there was still love there.

0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:06.760
<v Speaker 2>So she came back. She actually surprised me to come back,

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<v Speaker 2>which is likely where she like switched her flights and stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>So there was love there. And this is what I

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<v Speaker 2>call like phase one of the relationship. There's there's so

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<v Speaker 2>much more. But like in January, she wanted to go

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<v Speaker 2>back to Vancouver in the summer, and I'm like, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what's going on. Like there's you're just

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<v Speaker 2>constantly back and forth and that's her lifestyle, right, Like

0:12:25.880 --> 0:12:28.480
<v Speaker 2>she's just living by the day. For me, it's like, Okay,

0:12:28.480 --> 0:12:29.959
<v Speaker 2>I got to live through the year, and I have

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<v Speaker 2>year releaf plans and stuff for her. It's like whatever

0:12:33.000 --> 0:12:34.800
<v Speaker 2>comes her she has to take because that's that's the

0:12:34.880 --> 0:12:38.079
<v Speaker 2>life she made for herself. And pretty much I just

0:12:39.000 --> 0:12:41.839
<v Speaker 2>was so conflicted of what I should do, Like should

0:12:41.880 --> 0:12:43.959
<v Speaker 2>I stay with this girl? Should I help her with

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<v Speaker 2>her paperwork? I'm twenty four, Yeah I do me. I

0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:49.400
<v Speaker 2>got a pretty good career on my hands, but I

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<v Speaker 2>still got to work towards it, right like, like I

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<v Speaker 2>want to I want to build. I have a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of opportunities that I'm taking, Like I'm literally in freaking

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<v Speaker 2>Barbados right now, skeeping the whole winter of Toronto, which

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<v Speaker 2>is amazing for work. And I just can't find the

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<v Speaker 2>need to feel guilty for being successful because she can't

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<v Speaker 2>have the same opportunities that I have. So in May,

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<v Speaker 2>we tried to get like an immigration lawyer and just

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<v Speaker 2>to figure it out. I just needed to have a path.

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<v Speaker 2>I needed some sort of I couldn't do this day

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<v Speaker 2>by day shit, and the.

0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.720
<v Speaker 3>Immigration lawyer probably just wanted some money.

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<v Speaker 2>But she was just straight up telling me I got

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<v Speaker 2>to marry her. I got to marry her. I gotta

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<v Speaker 2>be calm a law. I gotta do this. I gotta

0:13:27.040 --> 0:13:29.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, holy fuck, and she goes, Michael, you don't

0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:30.800
<v Speaker 2>got to marry me. You don't get to marry me.

0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:33.680
<v Speaker 2>We'll figure it out another way, and I'm like, oh, dude,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't want that to be the only option.

0:13:36.520 --> 0:13:38.920
<v Speaker 2>Like this is a professional telling me that the only reason,

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<v Speaker 2>the only way I could keep you is if I

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<v Speaker 2>marry you, and like I don't even know you, you know,

0:13:43.320 --> 0:13:45.200
<v Speaker 2>like like a year goes by and like, yes, we

0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:47.439
<v Speaker 2>spend a lot of good time together, but she hasn't

0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:50.440
<v Speaker 2>really like proved to me that that, like I got

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<v Speaker 2>to marry her, Like it's a big commitment. It's like

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<v Speaker 2>a lifelong thing, and I don't want to do that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I said, I'm not doing that, but we'll figure

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<v Speaker 2>something else out. And then I got so overwhelmed a

0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:01.920
<v Speaker 2>point where my family's like like we gotta end it.

0:14:01.960 --> 0:14:03.880
<v Speaker 2>It's just it's not doesn't make sense, it makes sense.

0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:06.080
<v Speaker 2>I got so influenced by other people. And then I

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<v Speaker 2>try to break up with her. And when I during

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<v Speaker 2>that breakup, it was just it was hard because I,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I went over there. I kind of had

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<v Speaker 2>my mind made and I pretty much told her shut up.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, look like this is just not gonna end

0:14:20.000 --> 0:14:22.000
<v Speaker 2>well and I'd rather just cut it off before it

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<v Speaker 2>ends bad. And she she just pretty much said like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh is this It is done? And I just walked out,

0:14:27.920 --> 0:14:30.400
<v Speaker 2>like you know, we concluded that it was all on conversation,

0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.760
<v Speaker 2>but to long stide short like concluded that walked out

0:14:34.160 --> 0:14:35.560
<v Speaker 2>And as I was walking out, it was kind of

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<v Speaker 2>raining and sh it was like a movie scene. I

0:14:36.920 --> 0:14:38.800
<v Speaker 2>was like, did I just do that? Like I do?

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I made the right decision. And I'm like, okay,

0:14:41.440 --> 0:14:43.120
<v Speaker 2>I feel like a little bit of weight lift off

0:14:43.120 --> 0:14:44.880
<v Speaker 2>my shoulder. I feel like I made the right decision.

0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:47.160
<v Speaker 2>And as I'm as I'm thinking this to myself and

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<v Speaker 2>opening my car door, this girl comes running out in

0:14:50.240 --> 0:14:52.960
<v Speaker 2>the rain in her feet it's cold outside, and and

0:14:53.120 --> 0:14:55.400
<v Speaker 2>jumps and just and just kind of I don't know,

0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.280
<v Speaker 2>like just tells me not to leave and this and that,

0:14:57.320 --> 0:14:59.120
<v Speaker 2>and I'm like a sucker. I'm like, I can't do this,

0:14:59.240 --> 0:15:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Like I don't want I'll leave any girl, even in

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<v Speaker 2>my ex my other acts like no, girl, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want to see you crying because I left I want

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<v Speaker 2>to be like, Okay, it was refreshing, closures key, and

0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I just had to like I had to make it work.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, something inside of me was like, Okay,

0:15:13.320 --> 0:15:15.760
<v Speaker 2>let's try again, let's try something else. And then in

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<v Speaker 2>August she later I fast forward August twenty twenty four,

0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.560
<v Speaker 2>everything was kind of going well, like, you know, she

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<v Speaker 2>actually brought her to my parents and we had dinner,

0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:26.360
<v Speaker 2>and she kind of had to like confess that she's

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<v Speaker 2>not there for the paper. She loves me and all

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<v Speaker 2>this stuff, like it was a big thing for her

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<v Speaker 2>to do that she didn't want to do, but she

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<v Speaker 2>she did it because of the love for me, right

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<v Speaker 2>and and but she always told me that, like I

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<v Speaker 2>forced her to do that, and I thought that that

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<v Speaker 2>was the best part of our relationship is when she

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<v Speaker 2>did that. So that was a discrepancy. And in August

0:15:45.160 --> 0:15:48.120
<v Speaker 2>she pretty much said, like everything was going decent. You know,

0:15:48.160 --> 0:15:49.640
<v Speaker 2>the love was still there. You know, we went to

0:15:49.720 --> 0:15:52.440
<v Speaker 2>much real we did some fun stuff together, like we

0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.960
<v Speaker 2>still had some bonding. It was a little bit drier,

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<v Speaker 2>but like every other kind of relationship, you know, when

0:15:57.560 --> 0:15:59.440
<v Speaker 2>you want to rack up the year or two, it's

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<v Speaker 2>not going to be as good at the first couple

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<v Speaker 2>of months, but then in August she kind of blindsided me.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. She got on the phone with her

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<v Speaker 2>mom and then her friends and and and you could

0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:12.120
<v Speaker 2>tell like this, like energy was off, Like our relationship

0:16:12.120 --> 0:16:15.760
<v Speaker 2>revolved around energy, because obviously language wasn't the key. It

0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:18.880
<v Speaker 2>was all about energy. And she just sat me down

0:16:18.920 --> 0:16:21.120
<v Speaker 2>and she's just like straight up said like, yeah, this

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<v Speaker 2>is I don't know if this just gonna work out.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to go back to Mexico. I can't do

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<v Speaker 2>this anymore. Like I just I feel like I'm too

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<v Speaker 2>like I'm not good enough for you, all the stuff, like,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm telling her like no, like this girl's a

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<v Speaker 2>strong girl. Like I'm always boosting her up. I feel

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<v Speaker 2>like any any person that moves to another country and

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<v Speaker 2>tries to start a life here like my my grandparents did,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm spoiled, like I didn't do I didn't have

0:16:43.320 --> 0:16:46.160
<v Speaker 2>to suffer through all that, all that dumb pain. So

0:16:46.200 --> 0:16:48.000
<v Speaker 2>I always boosted her up. I said, no, she's strong,

0:16:48.080 --> 0:16:50.920
<v Speaker 2>she's fire, she's like confident like all this stuff. I

0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:53.160
<v Speaker 2>always brought her up no matter what, because that was

0:16:53.160 --> 0:16:55.760
<v Speaker 2>my goal. And yeah, she was just telling me like yeah,

0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.600
<v Speaker 2>like that's it, like whatever, And once I lyle, I'm

0:16:58.680 --> 0:17:00.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm a lover. I'm a lover boy if I love her, boy,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't like once someone breaks that love, I just

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<v Speaker 2>become evil, Like I just it is what it is,

0:17:06.920 --> 0:17:09.200
<v Speaker 2>like I just don't love you anymore, like the connection's lost.

0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:12.159
<v Speaker 2>Energy is lost, and I just became like this version

0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:14.760
<v Speaker 2>of myself that I hated, like I felt like it

0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:16.480
<v Speaker 2>was like a dickhead. Like I was like, no, like,

0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:19.359
<v Speaker 2>you made your decision. I know that I'm a sucker.

0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:21.600
<v Speaker 2>And if I ever give you a chance to come back,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna eat it off. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna take it and take you back. So I just

0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:29.320
<v Speaker 2>told her straight up, I said, all right, well, like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know when she told me that, I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>why do I why do I not want to cry

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<v Speaker 2>right now? Like why do I feel like okay, yeah,

0:17:35.160 --> 0:17:38.000
<v Speaker 2>that's true. And it's because she put herself first. Finally,

0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, you got to go back to Mexico.

0:17:40.119 --> 0:17:42.280
<v Speaker 2>You have your own problems. I clearly have my life

0:17:42.320 --> 0:17:44.040
<v Speaker 2>kind of figured out a little bit in a way,

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<v Speaker 2>and I have a lot of golden dreams and aspirations,

0:17:47.000 --> 0:17:50.440
<v Speaker 2>and in a way, she's kind of holding you back,

0:17:50.480 --> 0:17:53.240
<v Speaker 2>like she she was because like I don't know, she

0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:55.120
<v Speaker 2>was a little bit, but I didn't want to admit

0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:56.760
<v Speaker 2>it to myself because I was in love with her.

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<v Speaker 2>But August Taman went, it was really hard for me

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<v Speaker 2>because I we we broke up in the most phoenix

0:18:04.320 --> 0:18:07.560
<v Speaker 2>spot ever. There's like this place across where Toronto. There's

0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.199
<v Speaker 2>like it's called the Park Lawn, and it's like this

0:18:10.359 --> 0:18:14.399
<v Speaker 2>beautiful place overlooking the skyline. And you know, she she

0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.119
<v Speaker 2>didn't think we were gonna break up. She thought she

0:18:16.119 --> 0:18:17.679
<v Speaker 2>could like win me back before that day. But I

0:18:17.760 --> 0:18:20.640
<v Speaker 2>was My mind was set. My mind was set, and

0:18:20.680 --> 0:18:23.520
<v Speaker 2>I just told her straight up, I said, look, I

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<v Speaker 2>enjoyed my time with you, like I don't want to

0:18:25.760 --> 0:18:27.800
<v Speaker 2>think it was like a waste of time. I enjoyed

0:18:27.840 --> 0:18:30.320
<v Speaker 2>my time with you. But this is a decision you made,

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<v Speaker 2>and I can't really forgive you right now for that.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just want to like move on and let

0:18:35.680 --> 0:18:38.440
<v Speaker 2>you make that decision. And and i'd rather her move

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<v Speaker 2>on so I can move on, because if she doesn't

0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:42.439
<v Speaker 2>move on, I can't move on. That's like the whole

0:18:42.520 --> 0:18:46.200
<v Speaker 2>thing of of my my love life, and so we

0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:49.880
<v Speaker 2>so a month on month went by and ironically her

0:18:49.960 --> 0:18:52.119
<v Speaker 2>her birthday was the end of August. And this is

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<v Speaker 2>important because I turned down a really big opportunity to

0:18:55.680 --> 0:19:00.600
<v Speaker 2>film in France for her and I I kind of

0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:02.840
<v Speaker 2>regretted it. So I was looking for vacation stuff. I

0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:04.040
<v Speaker 2>was like, hey, I want to go to Switzerland, I

0:19:04.040 --> 0:19:05.760
<v Speaker 2>want to go to Costa Rica. I need something to

0:19:05.840 --> 0:19:08.159
<v Speaker 2>do at the end of August. The guy who I

0:19:08.240 --> 0:19:10.360
<v Speaker 2>turned down called me back and he goes, hey, man,

0:19:11.000 --> 0:19:13.040
<v Speaker 2>just wanted, as you know, cantrafund your flights. If you

0:19:13.040 --> 0:19:15.719
<v Speaker 2>still want to come, I'd rather that seat be with

0:19:15.800 --> 0:19:18.200
<v Speaker 2>you instead of being empty. And I'm like, oh my god, man,

0:19:18.400 --> 0:19:21.200
<v Speaker 2>you have no idea how much this helped me. Right now,

0:19:21.600 --> 0:19:23.840
<v Speaker 2>took that gig, had the time of my life filming everything.

0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:28.080
<v Speaker 2>And and then she called me. She called me. I

0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:30.960
<v Speaker 2>was thinking about her after a birthday because I didn't

0:19:30.960 --> 0:19:32.439
<v Speaker 2>say happy birthday. I was really wanted to do it,

0:19:32.440 --> 0:19:34.040
<v Speaker 2>but I said, no, don't do it. Don't do it.

0:19:34.400 --> 0:19:37.159
<v Speaker 2>She called me to Comber first, and I was I

0:19:37.200 --> 0:19:39.439
<v Speaker 2>was like, fucking in between the seats on the plane,

0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:41.760
<v Speaker 2>fucking bawling, writing a love letter in my notes, like

0:19:41.880 --> 0:19:46.560
<v Speaker 2>just trying to like figure out this shit. And in

0:19:46.600 --> 0:19:48.880
<v Speaker 2>that night she called me and it's like what the fuck,

0:19:48.960 --> 0:19:51.120
<v Speaker 2>Like there's there's a guy out there, Like there's no way,

0:19:51.160 --> 0:19:54.640
<v Speaker 2>there's no way, right, A coincidential face for for most people,

0:19:54.680 --> 0:19:56.399
<v Speaker 2>but for me, it was like, yeah, spiritual.

0:19:56.040 --> 0:19:58.959
<v Speaker 1>Shit, So call me. You were so you were you

0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:01.840
<v Speaker 1>were thinking about her and write this love letter and

0:20:01.880 --> 0:20:02.600
<v Speaker 1>then she called.

0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:06.320
<v Speaker 2>You so no, I was. I was out on a

0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:10.119
<v Speaker 2>plane in the in between going from freaking Switzerland to

0:20:10.440 --> 0:20:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Paris or something, and I was just writing this ship

0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:14.920
<v Speaker 2>because I was sad, like I was in the mountains

0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:16.719
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, I was filming. It was like it's the

0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.520
<v Speaker 2>best thing in my world. And I'm like, dude, like

0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:20.639
<v Speaker 2>I was thinking about it, and I'm like, yo, she

0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:23.399
<v Speaker 2>was gonna make me miss this? Like what type of

0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:26.159
<v Speaker 2>like what type of person was I to like miss

0:20:26.320 --> 0:20:30.639
<v Speaker 2>this amazing opportunity for my career for her? Like I

0:20:30.680 --> 0:20:32.880
<v Speaker 2>was like, I was like so happy. But then a

0:20:32.880 --> 0:20:35.359
<v Speaker 2>phase like I you know, BC, we went to we

0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:37.879
<v Speaker 2>went to Yukon too, like we did the mountains and

0:20:37.920 --> 0:20:41.520
<v Speaker 2>everything and and the Rockies and every time it was

0:20:41.520 --> 0:20:43.439
<v Speaker 2>in the mountains. It just reminded me of her, So

0:20:43.480 --> 0:20:44.960
<v Speaker 2>I was like I was going through it, but I

0:20:45.000 --> 0:20:47.560
<v Speaker 2>also like pivoted with like I was doing what I loved.

0:20:47.680 --> 0:20:51.040
<v Speaker 2>So it was just a weird, weird emotion. And I mean,

0:20:51.200 --> 0:20:54.240
<v Speaker 2>I know that you're film major as well, but there's

0:20:54.320 --> 0:20:56.800
<v Speaker 2>a I really get like doping rushes when I film,

0:20:56.920 --> 0:20:59.359
<v Speaker 2>and then it's like kind of coming off Molly, like

0:20:59.359 --> 0:21:01.679
<v Speaker 2>when you were like finish a project or finish everything,

0:21:01.680 --> 0:21:04.919
<v Speaker 2>you're just like, fuck, it's done, like it's over, and

0:21:04.960 --> 0:21:06.480
<v Speaker 2>you get kind of sad. So I was kind of

0:21:06.520 --> 0:21:08.879
<v Speaker 2>sad about it being over, and then on top of it,

0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:11.119
<v Speaker 2>I was sad because it was her birthday, and I

0:21:11.200 --> 0:21:13.600
<v Speaker 2>was just an emotional wreck and a point because I

0:21:13.640 --> 0:21:15.119
<v Speaker 2>knew I had to come back. And usually when I

0:21:15.160 --> 0:21:16.679
<v Speaker 2>come back to these things, you know, when I went

0:21:16.720 --> 0:21:19.040
<v Speaker 2>to go travel, I love calling her and telling her

0:21:19.040 --> 0:21:21.600
<v Speaker 2>about everything and my experiences, and I'm like, damn, I

0:21:21.640 --> 0:21:25.840
<v Speaker 2>can't do that. So that night she called me and

0:21:25.880 --> 0:21:27.440
<v Speaker 2>I got to like, I was like, what the heck,

0:21:27.520 --> 0:21:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Like it kind of got into my prayers, so I thought,

0:21:29.880 --> 0:21:32.520
<v Speaker 2>right for then and there I'm like, Okay, this girl,

0:21:33.320 --> 0:21:35.639
<v Speaker 2>this girl is going to this girl special like I

0:21:35.640 --> 0:21:38.200
<v Speaker 2>don't know, the energy is still there. It came back.

0:21:38.440 --> 0:21:41.760
<v Speaker 2>Let's try again, Let's try again. And important thing to

0:21:41.800 --> 0:21:44.640
<v Speaker 2>notice in my previous relationship, I got into like some

0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:46.159
<v Speaker 2>sort of like you know, big kind of fight or

0:21:46.280 --> 0:21:48.800
<v Speaker 2>argument and dispute and to a point where it left

0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:53.280
<v Speaker 2>me like like heartless in a way. And then we

0:21:53.359 --> 0:21:56.520
<v Speaker 2>tried again. We tried again, the same idea, but it

0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:58.720
<v Speaker 2>was never the same she and the difference between this

0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:01.640
<v Speaker 2>girl she was she never forgave the girl that I'm

0:22:01.680 --> 0:22:04.879
<v Speaker 2>with or was with now my second ex girlfriend, she

0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:08.280
<v Speaker 2>forgave a lot, but she didn't forgive what she did.

0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:13.240
<v Speaker 2>Instead of holding the grudge, she would just like boil

0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:15.680
<v Speaker 2>like she would let everything boil in and she would

0:22:15.680 --> 0:22:18.520
<v Speaker 2>never tell me anything, so I would never know.

0:22:18.760 --> 0:22:20.840
<v Speaker 1>And this is the Mexican girl that you're talking about

0:22:20.920 --> 0:22:23.240
<v Speaker 1>or the other Yeah yeah, okay, okay.

0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:25.040
<v Speaker 2>So there's an Italian girl and a Mexican girl which

0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:28.600
<v Speaker 2>is referred that refer to that those two. Okay, so yeah,

0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:31.080
<v Speaker 2>so the Mexican girl forgave a lot, but she never

0:22:31.160 --> 0:22:33.680
<v Speaker 2>really forgave. I always thought she was emotionally strong, because

0:22:33.720 --> 0:22:35.879
<v Speaker 2>the Italian girl wasn't emotionally strong she was always kind

0:22:35.880 --> 0:22:39.200
<v Speaker 2>of ratty, but the Mexican girl was very emotionally strong,

0:22:39.320 --> 0:22:42.280
<v Speaker 2>I thought, I thought, but usually I think it was

0:22:42.320 --> 0:22:46.359
<v Speaker 2>just based off. She just was like like Sylvie, like

0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:48.760
<v Speaker 2>just freaking live the life and we'll figure it out

0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:52.800
<v Speaker 2>as we go. So anyways, we called each other and

0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.000
<v Speaker 2>like we really just like I don't know, like we felt.

0:22:55.000 --> 0:22:57.240
<v Speaker 2>I felt that connection that we felt that I felt

0:22:57.800 --> 0:23:01.040
<v Speaker 2>throughout the years. And I'm like, all right, like this

0:23:01.080 --> 0:23:02.720
<v Speaker 2>is this is gonna be scary to bring it up

0:23:02.720 --> 0:23:05.119
<v Speaker 2>to everybody again, but this has to be God, this

0:23:05.160 --> 0:23:06.720
<v Speaker 2>has to do energy, this has to this, this is

0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.359
<v Speaker 2>aligning with what I thought, and let's try it out.

0:23:09.400 --> 0:23:12.679
<v Speaker 2>Let's do it. So I went to go. When I

0:23:12.720 --> 0:23:16.879
<v Speaker 2>came back from from France, I we went out together.

0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:21.320
<v Speaker 2>And even the first time we went out, like I

0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh shit, like I'm trying to like, I

0:23:24.200 --> 0:23:26.199
<v Speaker 2>just really wanted it loud. I really wanted it to

0:23:26.200 --> 0:23:28.080
<v Speaker 2>be like, Okay, we both love each other right now,

0:23:28.280 --> 0:23:30.359
<v Speaker 2>let's just you know, let's go back, let's pick up

0:23:30.359 --> 0:23:30.959
<v Speaker 2>where we left off.

0:23:31.000 --> 0:23:34.080
<v Speaker 3>Let's that's it. But it wasn't.

0:23:34.200 --> 0:23:35.920
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't like that. It was it was it was

0:23:35.960 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 2>all right. It was all right, but you know, we

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:41.760
<v Speaker 2>talked about everything and uh we we we mentioned like

0:23:42.240 --> 0:23:44.600
<v Speaker 2>our problems with each other and what happened and what

0:23:44.640 --> 0:23:46.480
<v Speaker 2>we did and how we felt throughout the lunch, and

0:23:46.480 --> 0:23:48.439
<v Speaker 2>I kind of showed her like, hey, like I know

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:51.199
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I know you think I wasn't thinking about you,

0:23:51.240 --> 0:23:54.240
<v Speaker 2>but like here's like what I did for you. Like

0:23:54.280 --> 0:23:57.959
<v Speaker 2>I showed all like these notes stuff and yeah, and

0:23:58.000 --> 0:24:00.720
<v Speaker 2>then it just it worked out. It was fine. It

0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 2>was fine for like a month, but she kind of

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:04.440
<v Speaker 2>just told me, like Michael, we have to work it

0:24:04.640 --> 0:24:07.160
<v Speaker 2>slowly because it can't be quick. If it's quick, it's

0:24:07.160 --> 0:24:09.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna go up and down. I'm like, all right, and

0:24:09.520 --> 0:24:12.119
<v Speaker 2>I feel like lyle like in August, I felt like

0:24:12.160 --> 0:24:14.840
<v Speaker 2>shit because I was I'm a very sweet guy. I

0:24:14.840 --> 0:24:18.800
<v Speaker 2>would say I didn't let her down easy. I really

0:24:18.840 --> 0:24:20.760
<v Speaker 2>just read. I just read like I said, I try

0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:22.480
<v Speaker 2>to let her down easy. And then she tried to

0:24:22.520 --> 0:24:25.000
<v Speaker 2>coming back, and I said, Paul it, I don't like

0:24:25.040 --> 0:24:26.600
<v Speaker 2>I really, I just don't love you anymore, like I

0:24:26.880 --> 0:24:30.000
<v Speaker 2>just I straight up. I remember we broke up beautifully.

0:24:30.080 --> 0:24:31.920
<v Speaker 2>And then I saw at the gym a week later

0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:35.280
<v Speaker 2>and I just couldn't couldn't figure out a way to

0:24:35.359 --> 0:24:37.639
<v Speaker 2>like just leave her because she was constantly in my brain.

0:24:38.119 --> 0:24:39.639
<v Speaker 2>And I told her like in the car, straight up,

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:41.800
<v Speaker 2>im like look, maybe we're not soul mates, maybe I

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:43.320
<v Speaker 2>never loved you in the first place. Like I just

0:24:43.480 --> 0:24:45.919
<v Speaker 2>fucking ripped on her. It was so bad because I

0:24:45.960 --> 0:24:48.119
<v Speaker 2>needed to I needed to tell myself that like this.

0:24:49.960 --> 0:24:53.760
<v Speaker 1>This is you said, you said this in the car.

0:24:53.880 --> 0:24:57.280
<v Speaker 1>This is after the reconciliation. This after she calls you again.

0:24:58.840 --> 0:25:03.119
<v Speaker 2>Uh know, this is so this is August. It is

0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 2>a week one of August. We broke up. Week two

0:25:06.800 --> 0:25:10.080
<v Speaker 2>it was I saw at the gym, and so week

0:25:10.119 --> 0:25:12.119
<v Speaker 2>one was like amazing, it was a good breakup. It

0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:14.120
<v Speaker 2>was like okay, and she just kind of still said

0:25:14.119 --> 0:25:16.639
<v Speaker 2>don't forget about me, like like don't don't give up

0:25:16.640 --> 0:25:18.920
<v Speaker 2>on me, this and that, and it was still like

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:20.879
<v Speaker 2>in her brain like it might work out. But for

0:25:20.960 --> 0:25:23.359
<v Speaker 2>me it was like no, I gotta move on. And

0:25:23.400 --> 0:25:25.359
<v Speaker 2>then I went to like a music festival. I did

0:25:25.359 --> 0:25:27.040
<v Speaker 2>all this shit, and it was I kind of was

0:25:27.080 --> 0:25:29.600
<v Speaker 2>living life, went to concert solo, like I was trying

0:25:29.600 --> 0:25:32.919
<v Speaker 2>my best to just move on effectively. And then a

0:25:32.920 --> 0:25:35.920
<v Speaker 2>week later I saw at the gym, and I said fuck,

0:25:36.160 --> 0:25:38.119
<v Speaker 2>Like I thought it was like, okay, we're good. I

0:25:38.240 --> 0:25:41.080
<v Speaker 2>just could say hi to you and just move on.

0:25:41.160 --> 0:25:42.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, I'm never gonna be in the gym

0:25:42.560 --> 0:25:51.359
<v Speaker 2>at the nighttime again. And that's it. But but yeah,

0:25:51.400 --> 0:25:55.680
<v Speaker 2>so where was that. Yeah, So in September, we tried

0:25:55.720 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 2>our best. We really tried our best. I kind of

0:25:57.760 --> 0:26:01.360
<v Speaker 2>slowly introduced it one by one family members, one by one.

0:26:01.520 --> 0:26:05.000
<v Speaker 2>My mom was first, and then my my closest my

0:26:05.000 --> 0:26:09.480
<v Speaker 2>oldest brother, and then my grandparents and then my second

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:12.720
<v Speaker 2>closest brother, you know, like I was just slowly introducing

0:26:12.720 --> 0:26:14.200
<v Speaker 2>it to my family because it was a scary thing,

0:26:14.240 --> 0:26:16.760
<v Speaker 2>you know, like like it's not easy for for for

0:26:16.800 --> 0:26:18.520
<v Speaker 2>me to say, like, hey, like I'm going to choose

0:26:18.560 --> 0:26:20.680
<v Speaker 2>myself and my love and I'm gonna I'm going to

0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:22.040
<v Speaker 2>tell me who to love and I'm not going to

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:25.199
<v Speaker 2>be influenced by anyone else. And everyone was accepting, you know,

0:26:25.280 --> 0:26:27.560
<v Speaker 2>like they was like, all right, Michael, you're happy that

0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:28.160
<v Speaker 2>was the big thing.

0:26:28.880 --> 0:26:30.840
<v Speaker 1>You're telling everyone that you're trying again.

0:26:32.000 --> 0:26:35.840
<v Speaker 4>Trying again, right, Yeah, okay, all right, trying again. So

0:26:35.880 --> 0:26:38.399
<v Speaker 4>I just told them and they were all accepting, like everyone.

0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:40.119
<v Speaker 4>Everyone said the same thing. If I love my family

0:26:40.119 --> 0:26:42.240
<v Speaker 4>so much, they just said, as long as you're happy,

0:26:42.280 --> 0:26:44.560
<v Speaker 4>as long as you're happy, whatever.

0:26:43.560 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 2>Do what makes you happy. And if whatever comes out

0:26:46.800 --> 0:26:48.920
<v Speaker 2>of this, as long as you're happy, you're fine. I

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 2>don't care. You know, it's your life. And that's why

0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate my family because they let me go through

0:26:53.080 --> 0:26:54.879
<v Speaker 2>these emotions. They don't kind of dictate it, even if

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 2>they know it's better best for me. So I pretty

0:26:58.359 --> 0:27:01.919
<v Speaker 2>much we tried for but the thing was, she was

0:27:02.000 --> 0:27:04.440
<v Speaker 2>just she was slow. It was slow for her, very slow,

0:27:04.480 --> 0:27:06.400
<v Speaker 2>and for me, it was just like, dude, we gotta

0:27:06.480 --> 0:27:08.840
<v Speaker 2>we gotta start doing things together again. We gotta like

0:27:08.880 --> 0:27:11.720
<v Speaker 2>revive our relationship again, Like we gotta go to go

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:15.359
<v Speaker 2>out to dinner, go out. Do we really like rocked

0:27:15.359 --> 0:27:18.080
<v Speaker 2>our phase one of our relationship. Phase one was like

0:27:18.720 --> 0:27:22.560
<v Speaker 2>May twenty twenty three to like August twenty twenty four.

0:27:22.920 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Like Phase one was fire, and that's why I was

0:27:24.720 --> 0:27:27.359
<v Speaker 2>sad about phase one. Phase two was September twenty twenty four,

0:27:27.920 --> 0:27:32.760
<v Speaker 2>and then we'll keep going. So in October she was

0:27:33.640 --> 0:27:36.119
<v Speaker 2>she focused on herself more, and I think that's what

0:27:36.200 --> 0:27:39.560
<v Speaker 2>I realized in between the two phases. Her Phase one

0:27:40.280 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 2>was her constantly doing things for me to please meet

0:27:45.119 --> 0:27:46.840
<v Speaker 2>And I loved it, no wonder, I fucking loved it

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:49.600
<v Speaker 2>because she was kind of like selfless for me. She

0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.600
<v Speaker 2>did everything that I wanted. She enjoyed everything too, don't

0:27:52.600 --> 0:27:54.960
<v Speaker 2>get me wrong, Like I planned things. I told her, like,

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:56.439
<v Speaker 2>do you want to do anything? She was, no, No, just

0:27:56.440 --> 0:27:57.560
<v Speaker 2>plan whatever. I'll just join you.

0:27:57.600 --> 0:27:57.960
<v Speaker 3>It's fun.

0:27:58.480 --> 0:28:01.639
<v Speaker 2>And I too. She did a lot for herself. She

0:28:01.760 --> 0:28:04.280
<v Speaker 2>worked a lot. She went this girl is really a

0:28:04.400 --> 0:28:06.600
<v Speaker 2>hard worker in a sense because she needs it. Man Like,

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 2>it's hard to get a job out there, and it's

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:12.359
<v Speaker 2>hard to keep one because of everyone's just getting paid

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:14.840
<v Speaker 2>less and less and less. Right, So she works Monday

0:28:14.840 --> 0:28:18.520
<v Speaker 2>to Friday from not like eight thirty in the morning

0:28:18.560 --> 0:28:21.520
<v Speaker 2>to like six pm, sits in traffic for an hour,

0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:25.720
<v Speaker 2>then goes to school from like seven, six thirty to five.

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:28.280
<v Speaker 2>My lad, She goes work from five eight thirty five,

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:30.480
<v Speaker 2>sits in traffic for an hour, goes to school from

0:28:30.520 --> 0:28:33.359
<v Speaker 2>six to nine, and then god for like, hopefully we

0:28:33.400 --> 0:28:35.600
<v Speaker 2>get a gym session together at nighttime. And that was

0:28:35.640 --> 0:28:38.280
<v Speaker 2>her schedule and the only time she had was Sundays

0:28:38.640 --> 0:28:42.320
<v Speaker 2>and Sundays was like her errand day. So I was like,

0:28:42.400 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 2>holy fuck, Michael, is ship you want? You know, like

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:47.959
<v Speaker 2>why do you what relationships you have? Like she's just

0:28:48.000 --> 0:28:51.120
<v Speaker 2>either working all the time we're in school, and I

0:28:51.200 --> 0:28:53.320
<v Speaker 2>was just like, okay, I still love this girl. I

0:28:53.360 --> 0:28:55.800
<v Speaker 2>still love this school. I admire her hard work, and honestly,

0:28:55.880 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 2>while she motivated me to work harder because I had everything,

0:28:59.000 --> 0:29:01.200
<v Speaker 2>but I felt like the need. I'm like, okay, I

0:29:01.240 --> 0:29:03.840
<v Speaker 2>can't make any excuses because look at my girlfriend, Like

0:29:03.880 --> 0:29:06.920
<v Speaker 2>look at her working so hard. I'm an excuse because

0:29:06.920 --> 0:29:08.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to edit to one am Like fuck that, Like,

0:29:08.960 --> 0:29:12.200
<v Speaker 2>come on, look at your girl. She's doing everything for

0:29:12.360 --> 0:29:14.360
<v Speaker 2>and to keep herself afloat and you got everything and

0:29:14.400 --> 0:29:17.120
<v Speaker 2>you can't. You can't grind for another couple hours. So

0:29:17.160 --> 0:29:18.880
<v Speaker 2>she was motivating me in a way and that's why

0:29:18.880 --> 0:29:22.440
<v Speaker 2>I kept her around so long. And then in October

0:29:22.480 --> 0:29:25.920
<v Speaker 2>she's pretty much I pretty much like we met up

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 2>and I wanted her to come to like this Halloween

0:29:29.600 --> 0:29:33.360
<v Speaker 2>party of mine. And ironically, if there's anyone listens from Toronto,

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:36.400
<v Speaker 2>like the World Series Game seven from with the Blue

0:29:36.480 --> 0:29:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Jays was on Halloween night and it's sabotaged my whole

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Halloween party because everyone was watching the game. And then

0:29:44.120 --> 0:29:47.720
<v Speaker 2>when the Blue Jays lost, everyone left and like the

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:50.040
<v Speaker 2>other people that didn't care about baseball came. So it's

0:29:50.120 --> 0:29:52.280
<v Speaker 2>just like it was such a it was whatever, it

0:29:52.280 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter. I was just some community for any Blue

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 2>Jay stands. But yeah, like I went to she didn't

0:29:58.320 --> 0:30:00.640
<v Speaker 2>come to that Halloween party. I really wanted to come

0:30:00.680 --> 0:30:02.200
<v Speaker 2>because I wanted It was the first time that she

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 2>was around me with everybody, and she didn't want to

0:30:05.560 --> 0:30:07.520
<v Speaker 2>come because well, she had a reason too. She had

0:30:07.560 --> 0:30:09.560
<v Speaker 2>to work. I like, she got a job, a big

0:30:09.640 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 2>job at like the following day at like six am,

0:30:12.520 --> 0:30:15.440
<v Speaker 2>was like a twelve hour shift and it paid her

0:30:15.480 --> 0:30:17.560
<v Speaker 2>well and she needs the money, so she had to

0:30:17.600 --> 0:30:19.520
<v Speaker 2>like not come and I understood that, but it was

0:30:19.560 --> 0:30:21.440
<v Speaker 2>just like fuck, man, I feel like she's dodging all

0:30:21.440 --> 0:30:23.160
<v Speaker 2>the stuff. But I'm like, no, no, no, it's okay.

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 2>She has worked. You kind of gotta to understand, you know,

0:30:25.280 --> 0:30:27.240
<v Speaker 2>she's not like everyone else. I could just take it

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:29.640
<v Speaker 2>off and you know, get another job. Like she needs

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:33.480
<v Speaker 2>to take all these opportunities as they come. And but

0:30:33.560 --> 0:30:35.760
<v Speaker 2>that was not the first time she kind of denied

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:39.760
<v Speaker 2>something and then I don't. I just I just felt like, okay,

0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:43.320
<v Speaker 2>you know what this relationship is going self, I need

0:30:43.320 --> 0:30:45.280
<v Speaker 2>to revive this. I'm not doing what I did last

0:30:45.320 --> 0:30:47.880
<v Speaker 2>relationship with the Italian girl and just letting it supply.

0:30:48.120 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 2>I got to tell her how I feel right now.

0:30:50.040 --> 0:30:52.000
<v Speaker 2>So I met up with her again. You know, we

0:30:52.040 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 2>went out finally, we like got a day going because

0:30:55.320 --> 0:30:58.960
<v Speaker 2>of with her schedule, and we went out for dessert

0:30:58.960 --> 0:31:00.400
<v Speaker 2>and stuff and it was it was fun, but there

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:01.800
<v Speaker 2>was the was just tension. I was like, what the

0:31:01.800 --> 0:31:02.480
<v Speaker 2>fuck's going on?

0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:02.720
<v Speaker 3>Man?

0:31:03.040 --> 0:31:04.680
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, I told her straight up, but like, look,

0:31:06.000 --> 0:31:08.719
<v Speaker 2>if you want this to thing to work, I need more.

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:11.640
<v Speaker 2>I need more from you, Like I can't just I

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 2>can't just be like you're you're upon in your life

0:31:16.120 --> 0:31:17.760
<v Speaker 2>like I want to. I need to feel something. I

0:31:17.800 --> 0:31:19.480
<v Speaker 2>don't feel anything, Like what's the point of being in

0:31:19.520 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 2>a relationship if you can't have a feeling for each other?

0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.160
<v Speaker 2>And she pretty much like told me straight up like

0:31:26.080 --> 0:31:27.240
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, look, I just want you to be my

0:31:27.240 --> 0:31:28.720
<v Speaker 2>girlfriend again, Like I just want to go back to

0:31:28.720 --> 0:31:30.840
<v Speaker 2>where we were because I can't. I don't feel anything.

0:31:30.960 --> 0:31:33.680
<v Speaker 2>I feel like i'm constantly seeking approval, and I'm like,

0:31:33.720 --> 0:31:35.600
<v Speaker 2>this sucks. You know. That's not what it was before.

0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:37.280
<v Speaker 2>This's not what I signed up for. This is not

0:31:37.320 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 2>what I expected when you called me in September. So

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:44.040
<v Speaker 2>I told her straight up in November and I said,

0:31:44.080 --> 0:31:49.680
<v Speaker 2>look like I need you to to settle down and

0:31:49.720 --> 0:31:51.479
<v Speaker 2>just be like do you do you want this or not?

0:31:52.200 --> 0:31:54.120
<v Speaker 2>And she goes like I want it. I just I'm like,

0:31:54.120 --> 0:31:55.479
<v Speaker 2>what do you think of me? And she said like

0:31:55.680 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 2>an X or something, and I'm like, an ex, I'm

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:01.080
<v Speaker 2>a fucking ex. Like I'm like, holy sh dude. I'm like, dude,

0:32:01.120 --> 0:32:03.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm not your ex boyfriend. I'm not you. I'm not

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:07.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not a person to like to sign up for

0:32:07.040 --> 0:32:09.800
<v Speaker 2>a relationship to be an ex boyfriend. Like no, yeah, Like,

0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm putting a lot of energy into you, and I'm

0:32:12.000 --> 0:32:14.560
<v Speaker 2>doing things that I never did for any girl. Every

0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:17.120
<v Speaker 2>relationship I needed, I needed a girl to love me

0:32:17.360 --> 0:32:19.040
<v Speaker 2>as much as I love them, and if they didn't,

0:32:19.080 --> 0:32:21.080
<v Speaker 2>then I would just match their energy. I was doing

0:32:21.120 --> 0:32:24.080
<v Speaker 2>something like that. I did something I'd never done before

0:32:24.200 --> 0:32:27.160
<v Speaker 2>for any any person. And I love someone without THEMB

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:30.160
<v Speaker 2>reciprocating that back. So I just pretty much told her.

0:32:30.160 --> 0:32:32.720
<v Speaker 2>I said like, look, I'm like I need you to like,

0:32:33.200 --> 0:32:34.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm not your ex I don't even honestly, I'm kind

0:32:34.960 --> 0:32:36.600
<v Speaker 2>of forgetting a little bit, which means I'm healing. But

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.320
<v Speaker 2>then that that happened, it was really it was kind

0:32:39.320 --> 0:32:41.240
<v Speaker 2>of rough, and I was really upset about that. I

0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:43.480
<v Speaker 2>just wanted her to, like I invited her to another

0:32:43.520 --> 0:32:44.960
<v Speaker 2>like event. I wanted to go out with her, and

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:46.680
<v Speaker 2>she goes, no, I don't want to do this. And

0:32:46.720 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 2>the thing with her allle is because she's in Mexican.

0:32:48.680 --> 0:32:52.000
<v Speaker 2>She grew up in Mexico. Winter sucks, Like winter sucks

0:32:52.000 --> 0:32:54.080
<v Speaker 2>for everybody. I love winter, my birth days in winter.

0:32:54.320 --> 0:32:56.600
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm a Canadian, so like winter is fun for me,

0:32:56.760 --> 0:33:00.400
<v Speaker 2>like skiing and all that shit. But for her, winter sucks.

0:33:00.520 --> 0:33:03.160
<v Speaker 2>Winter always sucks because Christmas time she's away from her family.

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Her parents are in Mexico. She doesn't have a lot

0:33:05.240 --> 0:33:07.920
<v Speaker 2>of immediate family here. She can't go back. She's stuck

0:33:08.040 --> 0:33:11.760
<v Speaker 2>in limbo in Canada. And I feel for her, so

0:33:11.880 --> 0:33:14.600
<v Speaker 2>I want to make it like enlightening for him, like yeah,

0:33:14.640 --> 0:33:16.760
<v Speaker 2>let's go out, let's let's go party, let's you know,

0:33:16.920 --> 0:33:18.840
<v Speaker 2>come over, let's watch movies, let's do all this shit,

0:33:20.040 --> 0:33:21.680
<v Speaker 2>but she wasn't having it because she didn't have any

0:33:21.680 --> 0:33:23.960
<v Speaker 2>fucking time. Well, she doesn't have time for relationship. And

0:33:23.960 --> 0:33:26.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, you know what, fuck it whatever, let

0:33:26.160 --> 0:33:27.840
<v Speaker 2>her be, let her heal. She'll come back to you

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:30.720
<v Speaker 2>if it's meant to be. And then December came. I

0:33:30.800 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 2>really wanted her to come for over for Christmas dinner.

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:35.200
<v Speaker 2>Like that was huge because last Christmas she didn't come

0:33:35.240 --> 0:33:37.560
<v Speaker 2>for Christmas dinner because she got sick. I think I

0:33:37.560 --> 0:33:39.680
<v Speaker 2>had to do with some sort of stress or something.

0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:42.920
<v Speaker 2>It's always like this every single year. So I wanted

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:44.120
<v Speaker 2>her to come for Christmas dinner because I was like,

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:46.400
<v Speaker 2>this is it. My family's gonna see her again, She's

0:33:46.440 --> 0:33:48.840
<v Speaker 2>gonna She came over for dinner one time with my

0:33:48.880 --> 0:33:50.560
<v Speaker 2>other brother's girlfriend and that was nice. I was like,

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:52.480
<v Speaker 2>fuck yeah, let's do that more like that felt good.

0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 2>She didn't come for dinner. She was kind of I

0:33:55.040 --> 0:33:57.040
<v Speaker 2>say she had a breakdown on Christmas Eve with her family.

0:33:57.440 --> 0:33:59.640
<v Speaker 2>I think what ended up happening was her family. She

0:33:59.680 --> 0:34:03.480
<v Speaker 2>tried to open up to her family about me, and

0:34:03.520 --> 0:34:05.720
<v Speaker 2>they shut it down so quickly because I think I

0:34:05.800 --> 0:34:08.759
<v Speaker 2>heard her so much in August that she just blacklisted

0:34:08.840 --> 0:34:11.040
<v Speaker 2>me for her whole family, and everyone of her family

0:34:11.040 --> 0:34:14.920
<v Speaker 2>fucking probably hated me, and she couldn't. She was scared

0:34:14.920 --> 0:34:17.160
<v Speaker 2>to open up, and she never did, and she kind

0:34:17.160 --> 0:34:18.879
<v Speaker 2>of shied away from it. And I think her her

0:34:18.960 --> 0:34:22.400
<v Speaker 2>friend probably influenced it, because she kind of fucked someone

0:34:22.400 --> 0:34:26.120
<v Speaker 2>over for paperwork, Like she literally got paperwork from this

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:28.400
<v Speaker 2>guy for three years and then ended up having a

0:34:28.400 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 2>baby with another dude and just fucking used him for

0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:33.320
<v Speaker 2>like it was fucked up, fucked up situation.

0:34:33.000 --> 0:34:33.879
<v Speaker 3>And that was her best friend.

0:34:34.360 --> 0:34:38.040
<v Speaker 1>And oh my god, this I'm sorry this woman did that.

0:34:39.560 --> 0:34:41.440
<v Speaker 2>No, no, no, this is her. This is the Mexican

0:34:41.480 --> 0:34:42.000
<v Speaker 2>girl's friend.

0:34:42.480 --> 0:34:45.560
<v Speaker 3>Okay, yes, yeah, so it was not her, but.

0:34:45.600 --> 0:34:48.040
<v Speaker 2>I was like, damn kind of fucked up, Like I

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:50.640
<v Speaker 2>didn't know, I can't do anything, like you know, it

0:34:50.680 --> 0:34:52.279
<v Speaker 2>is what it is. Like, just don't get influenced by that.

0:34:52.320 --> 0:34:56.080
<v Speaker 2>I don't think that's how it works. But anyways, so yeah,

0:34:56.320 --> 0:34:59.520
<v Speaker 2>she after Christmas, we were gonna spend New Year's together,

0:34:59.600 --> 0:35:02.239
<v Speaker 2>like I a book to Chalet. We were gonna have

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:04.880
<v Speaker 2>all four all of my brothers their girlfriends, you know,

0:35:05.239 --> 0:35:08.600
<v Speaker 2>my girlfriend, as I thought two in New Year's because

0:35:08.640 --> 0:35:10.160
<v Speaker 2>last year I spend New Years with her family and

0:35:10.160 --> 0:35:12.160
<v Speaker 2>her her cousins and brothers and stuff. I didn't get

0:35:12.160 --> 0:35:13.439
<v Speaker 2>to spend it with mine. So it's like, yeah, maybe

0:35:13.440 --> 0:35:14.960
<v Speaker 2>she'll she'll do it fine, and this will be a

0:35:15.000 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 2>good kind of telling if she's if she's tucking with it,

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 2>you know, because in December she goes, yeah, let's do it.

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:23.480
<v Speaker 2>It'll be fun. And then she kind of, I guess

0:35:23.520 --> 0:35:26.600
<v Speaker 2>maybe had that whole episode on Christmas and figured, Okay,

0:35:26.880 --> 0:35:28.399
<v Speaker 2>I can't even I don't even know how to tell

0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:30.040
<v Speaker 2>my family that I'm going to go spend New Years

0:35:30.040 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 2>with this guy. So she told me, like straight up,

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:35.319
<v Speaker 2>she goes, I can't, I'm not going to go, and

0:35:35.360 --> 0:35:37.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my gosh, here we go again, Like why,

0:35:38.000 --> 0:35:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Like do you know how many times I'm defending you

0:35:40.280 --> 0:35:42.239
<v Speaker 2>from my family, Like you're not making it easier. I

0:35:42.360 --> 0:35:44.960
<v Speaker 2>just need you to to like show that you've loved

0:35:44.960 --> 0:35:47.160
<v Speaker 2>me so I could just like be free if reminded

0:35:47.200 --> 0:35:49.560
<v Speaker 2>from everyone telling me, like Michael, give up on this girl.

0:35:51.120 --> 0:35:52.799
<v Speaker 2>And she just we just kind of and she just

0:35:52.800 --> 0:35:54.880
<v Speaker 2>broke up. She gave up again, and it was like

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 2>the same cycle. In August and I'm like, I told myself,

0:35:58.200 --> 0:36:00.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, Michael, what did I What did I do wrong?

0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:02.480
<v Speaker 2>In August, I said, Okay, I gave up with her

0:36:02.480 --> 0:36:04.359
<v Speaker 2>so quickly. I said, Okay, that's not what I'm gonna

0:36:04.360 --> 0:36:05.520
<v Speaker 2>do now. I'm gonna I'm not doing that. I'm not

0:36:05.520 --> 0:36:07.000
<v Speaker 2>gonna give up on her. I'm gonna try because I

0:36:07.000 --> 0:36:08.800
<v Speaker 2>think that she's just going through a little episode or

0:36:08.800 --> 0:36:11.200
<v Speaker 2>a little phase. And I tried to remind her. I

0:36:11.200 --> 0:36:12.880
<v Speaker 2>try to be like, oh I remember those times, remember this,

0:36:12.920 --> 0:36:15.040
<v Speaker 2>remember that. And she was so stern. She was like, nah,

0:36:15.520 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 2>I can't do this, like it's I'm gonna go back

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:20.360
<v Speaker 2>to Mexico. I missed my family, this and that, this

0:36:20.440 --> 0:36:22.799
<v Speaker 2>and that. And I'm like no, no, no, no, no, I'm

0:36:22.800 --> 0:36:24.560
<v Speaker 2>not doing this like I'm gonna fight because last time

0:36:24.560 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 2>I didn't fight. So I text her like I left her.

0:36:26.800 --> 0:36:29.400
<v Speaker 2>We left in tears whatever we were ending last episode,

0:36:29.560 --> 0:36:31.880
<v Speaker 2>the second last episode of Stranger Things that comes to

0:36:32.000 --> 0:36:35.480
<v Speaker 2>the story later because we watched Strange Things together and

0:36:35.680 --> 0:36:38.200
<v Speaker 2>she pretty much said like I gave her all the

0:36:38.200 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 2>stuff that she gave me throughout the relationship as like

0:36:42.280 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 2>a way of love, because she used to send me

0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:46.000
<v Speaker 2>like letters when she was in BC, like she used

0:36:46.000 --> 0:36:48.120
<v Speaker 2>to she used to send me like paint, like little

0:36:48.160 --> 0:36:50.000
<v Speaker 2>things that she did a little scrapboard she sent me

0:36:50.040 --> 0:36:52.359
<v Speaker 2>over like a really sweet stuff that I kept and

0:36:52.400 --> 0:36:54.920
<v Speaker 2>I for I sent the mental value and I just

0:36:54.960 --> 0:36:56.720
<v Speaker 2>gave it all to her. And I'm like, look, remember

0:36:57.120 --> 0:37:01.480
<v Speaker 2>remember this, oh shit, and he believes that out remember

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 2>this person, Remember this person? What where were you in

0:37:05.520 --> 0:37:07.800
<v Speaker 2>this space? And I try to like that's what that was.

0:37:07.840 --> 0:37:11.759
<v Speaker 2>My attempt just makes you believe about that name. But anyways,

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:15.799
<v Speaker 2>then then uh uh. A week went by and like

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:18.319
<v Speaker 2>I said, once I'm out of this relationship, I'm out

0:37:18.320 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 2>of this relationship. Like I texted her the night of

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:23.239
<v Speaker 2>I was really really like lost. I was like, what

0:37:23.280 --> 0:37:24.920
<v Speaker 2>the fuck is going on? Like what do I do?

0:37:24.920 --> 0:37:26.520
<v Speaker 2>Did I just lose? Did I just lose this girl?

0:37:26.600 --> 0:37:28.160
<v Speaker 2>Did I just lose this girl? Like I don't even

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:30.560
<v Speaker 2>know what happened, Like everything happened so quickly. And I

0:37:30.600 --> 0:37:33.479
<v Speaker 2>texted her and I pretty much told her. I said,

0:37:35.040 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>don't give up on us or whatever, like whatever she

0:37:37.480 --> 0:37:39.160
<v Speaker 2>told me, because I try to like be poetic with

0:37:39.200 --> 0:37:42.439
<v Speaker 2>this ship. And then a week went by, two weeks

0:37:42.440 --> 0:37:45.279
<v Speaker 2>went by and I'm like, all right, I don't know

0:37:45.280 --> 0:37:47.520
<v Speaker 2>if she's gonna like New Year's one buy New Years

0:37:47.520 --> 0:37:48.880
<v Speaker 2>was pretty hard? Like New Years was fun because I

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 2>got to spend it with all my brothers, and I

0:37:50.360 --> 0:37:51.799
<v Speaker 2>saved a lot of money because I would have paid

0:37:51.960 --> 0:37:54.279
<v Speaker 2>a lot for her to like stay and ski and

0:37:54.280 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 2>all that ship.

0:37:56.360 --> 0:37:57.480
<v Speaker 1>What's What's what's your name?

0:37:57.520 --> 0:37:57.719
<v Speaker 2>Man?

0:37:57.760 --> 0:37:58.399
<v Speaker 1>What's your name?

0:37:59.160 --> 0:37:59.560
<v Speaker 2>Michael?

0:38:00.239 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 1>Michael Michael. I've actually been quite quite engrossed in your story.

0:38:06.400 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>I truly have. I appreciate you sharing all of this

0:38:08.520 --> 0:38:11.720
<v Speaker 1>with us. I've let you go on for a while

0:38:11.760 --> 0:38:13.440
<v Speaker 1>because I kind of started to feel like I was

0:38:13.520 --> 0:38:15.719
<v Speaker 1>listening to my own podcast, which is a good thing.

0:38:17.239 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 1>You've told a very interesting story so far. But I'm

0:38:20.000 --> 0:38:23.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna go ahead and ask you to cut to the end.

0:38:23.760 --> 0:38:29.040
<v Speaker 2>Please do so. This is the end actually, so January,

0:38:30.239 --> 0:38:32.560
<v Speaker 2>I was in I went away and she called me,

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:37.120
<v Speaker 2>and I told her, like, look, that's that's pretty much.

0:38:37.960 --> 0:38:40.200
<v Speaker 2>I get that's it. It is what it is. And

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:44.280
<v Speaker 2>throughout the story, holy shit, forty minutes is crazy. Throughout

0:38:44.280 --> 0:38:48.279
<v Speaker 2>the story. When I was away, she tried to get

0:38:48.280 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 2>me back, trying to get me back, and I said, no,

0:38:50.200 --> 0:38:52.840
<v Speaker 2>that's it. I'm not doing this again, and I was

0:38:52.840 --> 0:38:54.359
<v Speaker 2>really like sentimental with it. I'm like, you know what,

0:38:54.440 --> 0:38:56.080
<v Speaker 2>like I'm gonna call you. I want closure, and I

0:38:56.080 --> 0:38:57.560
<v Speaker 2>think this is like the biggest thing that I want

0:38:57.560 --> 0:38:59.840
<v Speaker 2>your advice on. I need closure with stuff like this,

0:39:00.400 --> 0:39:02.279
<v Speaker 2>and the closure that I had was she called me

0:39:02.360 --> 0:39:04.239
<v Speaker 2>a couple of times. I said, no, I sent her.

0:39:04.239 --> 0:39:06.040
<v Speaker 2>I made some videos of the way to like kind

0:39:06.040 --> 0:39:08.680
<v Speaker 2>of cope with it. I wanted to like danker for relationships.

0:39:08.719 --> 0:39:12.359
<v Speaker 2>I didn't want to be too you know. I didn't

0:39:12.360 --> 0:39:13.879
<v Speaker 2>want to let her down hard like I did last time,

0:39:13.880 --> 0:39:16.080
<v Speaker 2>because that was guilty for me. So I told her

0:39:16.120 --> 0:39:18.160
<v Speaker 2>straight up, I said, you know what.

0:39:17.680 --> 0:39:23.759
<v Speaker 1>What what Okay, okay, okay, all right now now now

0:39:23.800 --> 0:39:26.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna make this a conversation instead of you telling

0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:26.680
<v Speaker 1>me a story.

0:39:26.760 --> 0:39:29.359
<v Speaker 2>Yes, please, Yeah, it was too long. It's long.

0:39:30.080 --> 0:39:31.960
<v Speaker 1>No, it's I'm glad. I'm glad you told it. I

0:39:32.040 --> 0:39:33.080
<v Speaker 1>enjoyed listening to it.

0:39:33.080 --> 0:39:33.120
<v Speaker 2>It.

0:39:33.360 --> 0:39:36.359
<v Speaker 1>Uh, it's definitely there's a lot of relatable things in

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:40.480
<v Speaker 1>there about Uh. I'm you're not the only one who

0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>I think navigates treacherous waters in this in this way.

0:39:48.120 --> 0:39:50.120
<v Speaker 1>But how long how long has it been since you

0:39:50.160 --> 0:39:51.120
<v Speaker 1>last talked to this person.

0:39:53.280 --> 0:39:56.240
<v Speaker 2>It's been end of January, and I think the hardest

0:39:56.239 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 2>part was I thought I came back and I said,

0:39:59.000 --> 0:40:01.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna see you again because we left off on FaceTime.

0:40:01.480 --> 0:40:03.799
<v Speaker 2>We actually watched last episode of Stranger Things together and

0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:05.080
<v Speaker 2>I said, Okay, I'm gonna see you at the end

0:40:05.120 --> 0:40:07.680
<v Speaker 2>of February. And I just collect my things because I had,

0:40:07.760 --> 0:40:09.880
<v Speaker 2>like I gave her computer, some money for for some

0:40:10.000 --> 0:40:12.480
<v Speaker 2>ship that's showsing, and then some sweaters and stuff. I'm

0:40:12.480 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 2>gonna see you one last time and then that's it.

0:40:14.680 --> 0:40:16.920
<v Speaker 2>I thought, I really just needed that last kind of

0:40:17.719 --> 0:40:20.359
<v Speaker 2>break the stick and move on. Didn't get that.

0:40:23.520 --> 0:40:25.640
<v Speaker 1>So how do you feel now? Do you miss her?

0:40:25.800 --> 0:40:26.160
<v Speaker 1>Are you?

0:40:26.880 --> 0:40:26.960
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:40:26.960 --> 0:40:27.600
<v Speaker 1>What's your deal?

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:29.640
<v Speaker 3>Lyle?

0:40:30.360 --> 0:40:33.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm free, dude, Like I am. I have everything I

0:40:33.920 --> 0:40:37.520
<v Speaker 2>need in my life. I have my my career is

0:40:37.560 --> 0:40:40.440
<v Speaker 2>taking off right now. I got so many good people

0:40:40.440 --> 0:40:43.399
<v Speaker 2>around me, I got good family. I'm like, I don't

0:40:43.400 --> 0:40:47.319
<v Speaker 2>feel guilty for my success anymore. I don't feel I

0:40:47.320 --> 0:40:50.000
<v Speaker 2>don't want her back. I just wanted to put a

0:40:50.040 --> 0:40:53.440
<v Speaker 2>bow on this fairy tale we had. And I'm just

0:40:54.360 --> 0:40:55.359
<v Speaker 2>I believe in her right.

0:40:55.600 --> 0:41:02.520
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, stop real quick, there's no but dude, dude, what's

0:41:02.560 --> 0:41:04.800
<v Speaker 1>your name again? I'm sorry you told me a billion times.

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:07.520
<v Speaker 2>Michael, Michael, Michael.

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:10.000
<v Speaker 1>Michael Myers, Michael Myers, Dude, we've been talking for so long.

0:41:10.040 --> 0:41:16.560
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was a different call. Okay, Michael Myers, Dude,

0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:19.319
<v Speaker 1>you want clo First of all, closure is not real.

0:41:19.360 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 1>That's not a real thing that exists. Okay. You you had,

0:41:22.000 --> 0:41:24.320
<v Speaker 1>First of all, the story you told me had about

0:41:24.320 --> 0:41:27.239
<v Speaker 1>eight different moments of closure. And the truth is there's

0:41:27.280 --> 0:41:29.959
<v Speaker 1>no such thing as closure. Life doesn't have a neat

0:41:29.960 --> 0:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>bow at the end, even at the even when you die,

0:41:32.280 --> 0:41:33.879
<v Speaker 1>it's like you just die, you know what I mean,

0:41:34.120 --> 0:41:38.120
<v Speaker 1>Like you're it's grief, right, it's grief. It doesn't have closure.

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:40.840
<v Speaker 1>That's the hard thing is that there's no closure. It

0:41:41.000 --> 0:41:41.560
<v Speaker 1>just ended.

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:42.480
<v Speaker 3>You know.

0:41:42.840 --> 0:41:45.520
<v Speaker 1>That's and I know it's a bummer take. But you

0:41:45.600 --> 0:41:49.200
<v Speaker 1>got out good man. I mean, Jesus, Christ, Jesus, what

0:41:49.200 --> 0:41:52.760
<v Speaker 1>do you want closure for? Dude? You got out good?

0:41:52.880 --> 0:41:55.479
<v Speaker 1>You feet you you don't want her back. You seem

0:41:55.560 --> 0:41:58.359
<v Speaker 1>like you feel great about life. You seem like you

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:00.480
<v Speaker 1>feel like you have great friends, like you have a

0:42:00.520 --> 0:42:02.839
<v Speaker 1>great You're twenty four. You have a great life, dude,

0:42:02.880 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>what do you want? Club? You have a great life, dude,

0:42:06.680 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 1>you have a From what you're telling me, you have

0:42:08.520 --> 0:42:12.239
<v Speaker 1>a great life. You have this uh way of existing

0:42:12.280 --> 0:42:14.600
<v Speaker 1>and being that is coming off to me as we're

0:42:14.640 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 1>having this conversation that feels as though you you you

0:42:18.640 --> 0:42:20.680
<v Speaker 1>have a lust for life. You're an optimist, you know

0:42:20.719 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 1>how to do shit. You know, you're twenty four. Like dude,

0:42:25.520 --> 0:42:31.359
<v Speaker 1>just I I I I don't. I think if you

0:42:31.400 --> 0:42:34.040
<v Speaker 1>really want my honest take, after listening to your entire

0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.839
<v Speaker 1>story and hearing you say everything you just said right now,

0:42:37.200 --> 0:42:42.320
<v Speaker 1>I think this fucking thing ended the best possible way

0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:46.120
<v Speaker 1>that it could for you. Okay, don't ask for anything else.

0:42:46.360 --> 0:42:48.799
<v Speaker 1>Don't don't, don't don't ask for anything else. What do

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:52.239
<v Speaker 1>you want? There's nothing else for There's nothing else for

0:42:52.360 --> 0:42:55.920
<v Speaker 1>you to get, Dude, your career is taken off. You

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:59.320
<v Speaker 1>have great friends. You don't You're not you're not drowning

0:42:59.360 --> 0:43:02.839
<v Speaker 1>in the feeling. You're not feeling woe is me, You're

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:05.399
<v Speaker 1>not like you like your life. You're not wondering, you're

0:43:05.440 --> 0:43:07.759
<v Speaker 1>not worrying, You're just like, just what do you What

0:43:08.120 --> 0:43:09.520
<v Speaker 1>the fuck do you want? What do you mean? When

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>closure go live your life, dude, there is no closures.

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:15.440
<v Speaker 1>Go live, you go live the life that you're telling

0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 1>me right now that if you mean it, if you

0:43:17.440 --> 0:43:19.720
<v Speaker 1>mean what you're saying, that you really do love your life,

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:22.719
<v Speaker 1>just live to live the life. Man, what are you talking?

0:43:22.920 --> 0:43:26.279
<v Speaker 1>I can't fathom what you're missing. If that, if you

0:43:26.320 --> 0:43:28.319
<v Speaker 1>were telling me, right, here's the thing, right, if you were,

0:43:28.400 --> 0:43:31.040
<v Speaker 1>if you were getting all sad sack on me, if

0:43:31.080 --> 0:43:32.319
<v Speaker 1>you were getting all sad sack on me and you

0:43:32.320 --> 0:43:33.440
<v Speaker 1>were like, oh I miss her. I don't know what

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:35.360
<v Speaker 1>to do. I'm worrying, I'm dwelling, I'm this and anything.

0:43:35.560 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 1>But dude, but the fact that you're coming out of

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:40.640
<v Speaker 1>here and you're like, oh, life is great. I'm actually

0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:43.319
<v Speaker 1>I don't miss her at all. I I don't want

0:43:43.360 --> 0:43:45.319
<v Speaker 1>her back, Like, but what what do you want? I

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:46.319
<v Speaker 1>don't understand what you want?

0:43:46.360 --> 0:43:48.400
<v Speaker 2>Man. I think I'm more so. I think I'm just

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:52.719
<v Speaker 2>more more so disappointed and the character like she's shown me,

0:43:52.760 --> 0:43:54.640
<v Speaker 2>and I'm just like, why couldn't I think? Why couldn't

0:43:54.640 --> 0:43:56.680
<v Speaker 2>I see that before? Like you know, like why did

0:43:56.760 --> 0:43:57.200
<v Speaker 2>she have to?

0:43:57.719 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 1>Why couldn't you see that? But because you you couldn't

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:04.600
<v Speaker 1>see that before? Because you live life forwardly with the

0:44:04.640 --> 0:44:07.320
<v Speaker 1>information that you have at the time in which you're living,

0:44:07.680 --> 0:44:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and then you don't know You don't know anything until.

0:44:10.400 --> 0:44:12.239
<v Speaker 1>You couldn't see that before because you don't have a

0:44:12.320 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 1>crystal fucking ball that tells you the future. You only

0:44:14.680 --> 0:44:18.800
<v Speaker 1>have your gut and whatever experience you have at the time,

0:44:19.000 --> 0:44:21.760
<v Speaker 1>which sounds like it wasn't a lot because you only

0:44:21.800 --> 0:44:24.080
<v Speaker 1>have so much time that you'd lived on the earth.

0:44:24.560 --> 0:44:25.839
<v Speaker 1>So why couldn't you see that before?

0:44:25.880 --> 0:44:25.920
<v Speaker 2>It?

0:44:26.000 --> 0:44:29.399
<v Speaker 1>Because that's like, that's like saying why couldn't I see

0:44:29.440 --> 0:44:32.560
<v Speaker 1>that before? That's like if you were like, uh, that's

0:44:32.560 --> 0:44:35.840
<v Speaker 1>like if you turned around and you saw a tree

0:44:36.600 --> 0:44:38.880
<v Speaker 1>and you were like, why couldn't I see that tree before?

0:44:39.480 --> 0:44:41.640
<v Speaker 1>It's like because you couldn't see you weren't facing the

0:44:41.680 --> 0:44:44.520
<v Speaker 1>direction of the tree. It's like it's like if you

0:44:44.560 --> 0:44:47.000
<v Speaker 1>stare at a wall. It's like if it's like if

0:44:47.040 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 1>you it's like if you were at home staring at

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:52.520
<v Speaker 1>a wall and then you went to the Empire State

0:44:52.560 --> 0:44:55.040
<v Speaker 1>Building and you were like, why couldn't I Why couldn't

0:44:55.040 --> 0:44:56.759
<v Speaker 1>I see the Empire State Building before when I was

0:44:56.800 --> 0:45:00.719
<v Speaker 1>staring at the wall? It's because you weren't looking. It's

0:45:00.800 --> 0:45:05.759
<v Speaker 1>just it's a stupid thing, you know, So like just live,

0:45:06.000 --> 0:45:08.400
<v Speaker 1>just live, keep living your life, man, that don't you

0:45:08.440 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 1>don't need anything more. Just keep living life forward, don't

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:14.600
<v Speaker 1>don't if if if, if you're not in, if you're

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:20.759
<v Speaker 1>not deeply uh shadowed by a pain that's forcing you

0:45:20.880 --> 0:45:25.640
<v Speaker 1>to spiral and dwell, then then don't just live your life. Man.

0:45:26.360 --> 0:45:29.920
<v Speaker 1>That's all I got to say about it.

0:45:30.000 --> 0:45:30.440
<v Speaker 3>Sick man.

0:45:30.520 --> 0:45:33.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, I mean I kind of had like a

0:45:33.440 --> 0:45:35.160
<v Speaker 2>that that thought of mine. I think it was just

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 2>more so like I felt like we deserve a better

0:45:38.400 --> 0:45:40.880
<v Speaker 2>ending in a way. And uh, that's what I'm kind

0:45:40.880 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 2>of holding on too. It's like we had and I

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:45.480
<v Speaker 2>think a part of me is thinking I could have

0:45:45.560 --> 0:45:48.239
<v Speaker 2>had that kind of nice ending that I had, and

0:45:48.280 --> 0:45:50.360
<v Speaker 2>I had it on a phone call with her, but

0:45:50.560 --> 0:45:52.600
<v Speaker 2>I didn't have it in person because I was I

0:45:52.680 --> 0:45:54.600
<v Speaker 2>was away, and I could have had it if there

0:45:54.640 --> 0:45:57.239
<v Speaker 2>was like a snowstorm. It's all these like what if But.

0:45:58.160 --> 0:46:01.880
<v Speaker 1>Dude, dude, dude, dude, just first of all, right, listen,

0:46:02.040 --> 0:46:06.600
<v Speaker 1>you got you got the Sopranos season finale of this relationship.

0:46:07.160 --> 0:46:08.080
<v Speaker 1>You don't know what that means?

0:46:08.160 --> 0:46:12.360
<v Speaker 2>Due, Yeah, that's a good prep best ending ever. I

0:46:12.360 --> 0:46:13.439
<v Speaker 2>didn't watch the show, and I.

0:46:13.320 --> 0:46:13.680
<v Speaker 3>Just know that.

0:46:14.320 --> 0:46:18.040
<v Speaker 1>I also only know that anyway, whatever you got, just

0:46:18.040 --> 0:46:21.520
<v Speaker 1>pit by that dude. Just fuck the dude. Endings are stupid.

0:46:22.320 --> 0:46:25.240
<v Speaker 1>I really think they're stupid. Just you had great middles.

0:46:25.320 --> 0:46:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Just pick a middle and have that be them ending. Mentally,

0:46:29.200 --> 0:46:32.239
<v Speaker 1>why is why you obsessed with an ending? Like you know,

0:46:32.880 --> 0:46:35.560
<v Speaker 1>endings stupid buildings.

0:46:36.600 --> 0:46:40.680
<v Speaker 2>A good ending makes everything. A good ending makes everything better.

0:46:40.719 --> 0:46:44.920
<v Speaker 1>What's your what's your name? Again? Man, Michael Michael, I'm

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:46.560
<v Speaker 1>sorry I did ten times.

0:46:47.440 --> 0:46:49.560
<v Speaker 2>It's okay. I watched the podcast enough. I feel honored

0:46:49.600 --> 0:46:52.160
<v Speaker 2>for you asking me what my name is. It makes

0:46:52.160 --> 0:46:54.600
<v Speaker 2>you feel like, you know, listen back to this, yeah.

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:58.480
<v Speaker 1>Michael Michael. Michael's speaking of endings. I appreciate you sharing

0:46:58.480 --> 0:46:59.359
<v Speaker 1>this whole story with us.

0:46:59.360 --> 0:46:59.759
<v Speaker 2>This was.

0:47:01.440 --> 0:47:06.759
<v Speaker 1>This was nice. I think almost I almost feel like

0:47:06.800 --> 0:47:09.160
<v Speaker 1>the way in which I'm ending this call is similar

0:47:09.200 --> 0:47:11.319
<v Speaker 1>to the way in which the relationship ended, where it's like,

0:47:11.360 --> 0:47:14.120
<v Speaker 1>we don't have a nice bow to wrap this up in.

0:47:14.200 --> 0:47:16.719
<v Speaker 1>It's just we heard the story and I gave my

0:47:16.719 --> 0:47:20.279
<v Speaker 1>feedback and it's over. But that's life. You know, life

0:47:20.320 --> 0:47:22.719
<v Speaker 1>doesn't end with the bow. It's not you know, you're

0:47:22.760 --> 0:47:25.879
<v Speaker 1>a filmmaker. You make stuff. You try to end things

0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:28.280
<v Speaker 1>with a bow, but it just doesn't. It just keeps going.

0:47:29.680 --> 0:47:31.920
<v Speaker 1>But that's not something to grieve. You know. You have

0:47:32.000 --> 0:47:35.560
<v Speaker 1>your own little ways in which you can wrap things

0:47:35.640 --> 0:47:37.680
<v Speaker 1>up with a bow and live your life. But like dude,

0:47:37.800 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't have to tell you you know any more times,

0:47:40.000 --> 0:47:43.640
<v Speaker 1>but just go go live your life. Man. I'm I'm

0:47:44.000 --> 0:47:46.399
<v Speaker 1>proud of you after hearing this whole story, I'm proud

0:47:46.440 --> 0:47:49.080
<v Speaker 1>of you, Mike. I think you should keep living your life.

0:47:49.080 --> 0:47:52.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm rooting for you. So you know your story is

0:47:52.480 --> 0:47:56.480
<v Speaker 1>still being written. Nothing's you know, you're not dead man,

0:47:56.800 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Just just keep going all right?

0:47:59.520 --> 0:48:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I'm then is there.

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:02.360
<v Speaker 1>Anything else do I say to the people of the

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:03.239
<v Speaker 1>computer before we go?

0:48:07.000 --> 0:48:10.520
<v Speaker 2>I think the most important thing is, like a young teenager,

0:48:10.640 --> 0:48:13.680
<v Speaker 2>is to have good role models, to found yourself with

0:48:13.719 --> 0:48:17.280
<v Speaker 2>good role models, whether you're consuming content with good role models,

0:48:17.320 --> 0:48:21.920
<v Speaker 2>and because it always helps you guide yourself through life.

0:48:22.400 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 2>And uh, Jake holds the goat. So yeah, it's about it.

0:48:26.800 --> 0:48:29.400
<v Speaker 1>Awesome. Hey, thank you, Mike, I appreciate you for sharing.

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:33.040
<v Speaker 3>Thanks Chole, Hey have a good night, man.

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:41.480
<v Speaker 1>But that was Mike and I. I and I don't

0:48:41.480 --> 0:48:44.399
<v Speaker 1>have any post call thoughts. We left, well, I left,

0:48:44.400 --> 0:48:50.600
<v Speaker 1>I left all my thoughts in the call. Hello, yep,

0:48:50.880 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>what's your name?

0:48:51.560 --> 0:48:51.799
<v Speaker 2>Brother?

0:48:51.840 --> 0:48:52.359
<v Speaker 1>How you doing?

0:48:53.160 --> 0:48:53.799
<v Speaker 3>I'm pretty good.

0:48:53.880 --> 0:48:59.520
<v Speaker 1>My name is Simon, Simon, Simon and Garfuncles, Simon the

0:48:59.719 --> 0:49:04.640
<v Speaker 1>the Tertiary Chipmunk from Alvin and the Chipmunks. Simon Cowell.

0:49:06.200 --> 0:49:07.600
<v Speaker 3>Oh, Simon cow is a good one.

0:49:07.680 --> 0:49:11.600
<v Speaker 1>Simon says, who is the Simon? And Simon says, let's

0:49:11.600 --> 0:49:13.440
<v Speaker 1>look that up right now and then we'll get to

0:49:13.600 --> 0:49:16.160
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is you wanted to talk about. Hold On Simon.

0:49:15.920 --> 0:49:20.319
<v Speaker 3>Said, said, I honestly have no fucking clue. I have

0:49:20.440 --> 0:49:23.839
<v Speaker 3>no clue. I never understood what Simon said. And if

0:49:23.840 --> 0:49:27.200
<v Speaker 3>he says something, where.

0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:31.480
<v Speaker 1>Does it come from? What's the uh? What's I thought?

0:49:31.600 --> 0:49:33.600
<v Speaker 3>You know? If it's an American thing, isn't it?

0:49:36.120 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I didn't know? It says it's Irish? Actually, no way.

0:49:40.360 --> 0:49:43.360
<v Speaker 1>You know what's interesting is that? Actually? Okay? No, In

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:46.879
<v Speaker 1>Ireland the game is called O'Grady says, which is kind

0:49:46.920 --> 0:49:50.840
<v Speaker 1>of a I don't I don't think that plays very well. Uh.

0:49:51.440 --> 0:49:54.319
<v Speaker 1>On The Wikipedia page for Simon says there is no

0:49:54.360 --> 0:49:57.120
<v Speaker 1>information about the origin of it.

0:49:58.440 --> 0:49:58.960
<v Speaker 2>What the hell?

0:50:00.200 --> 0:50:08.319
<v Speaker 1>I probably someone named fucking Simon who wanted power. That's

0:50:08.320 --> 0:50:10.719
<v Speaker 1>what I asked. The best Uh, that's the best part

0:50:10.719 --> 0:50:16.520
<v Speaker 1>of being Simon is all the power. Uh, Simon, what

0:50:16.640 --> 0:50:20.160
<v Speaker 1>did you want to talk about today? Uh?

0:50:21.040 --> 0:50:22.880
<v Speaker 3>Well, I don't know, obviously, I don't know if you

0:50:23.080 --> 0:50:26.680
<v Speaker 3>uh where the text messages? But uh, you know, life

0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:31.200
<v Speaker 3>has been crazy. LiF's being a kid life. Uh kids

0:50:31.200 --> 0:50:35.800
<v Speaker 3>from being crazy and just never proved me wrong every

0:50:35.800 --> 0:50:36.399
<v Speaker 3>fucking day.

0:50:37.200 --> 0:50:41.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, how is it crazy? I don't know.

0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:45.840
<v Speaker 3>I feel like things I've moved to the state, I've

0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:49.799
<v Speaker 3>I've experienced new stuff that I thought I would never

0:50:49.880 --> 0:50:52.839
<v Speaker 3>experience before. I've done stuff that I thought I've never

0:50:52.880 --> 0:50:55.040
<v Speaker 3>don do before. And I don't want to have to

0:50:55.080 --> 0:50:57.239
<v Speaker 3>be necessarily the fact that me we copy here. It's

0:50:57.280 --> 0:50:59.960
<v Speaker 3>that it's just a matter of me meet my own person.

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:03.240
<v Speaker 3>So in my own person, I would never I wouldn't

0:51:03.239 --> 0:51:07.480
<v Speaker 3>have thought about trying new things like this in the country.

0:51:08.800 --> 0:51:11.160
<v Speaker 1>Where where are you from?

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:13.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm prom italy?

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:15.319
<v Speaker 1>Oh why did you come here?

0:51:16.960 --> 0:51:19.560
<v Speaker 3>I've met my wife on kick a long time ago.

0:51:19.560 --> 0:51:22.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if you remember Kick that messaging.

0:51:23.080 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 1>K I K yeah, k I K yeah whatever happened

0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:29.160
<v Speaker 1>to Kick, bro, I don't know.

0:51:29.239 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 3>I know it's still out there doing this thing. Who knows.

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:34.880
<v Speaker 3>I tried to get it back just for FUNDI, but

0:51:36.280 --> 0:51:37.680
<v Speaker 3>it's just not the same anymore.

0:51:38.160 --> 0:51:41.120
<v Speaker 1>But Kick is like but it's that's like saying I

0:51:41.239 --> 0:51:44.640
<v Speaker 1>met my wife on Telegram or something, you know what

0:51:44.640 --> 0:51:46.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean? Like, it's is Kick like a place where

0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:49.080
<v Speaker 1>you Kick seems like a place where, like a messaging app,

0:51:49.120 --> 0:51:51.080
<v Speaker 1>where you meet people that you are, where you talk

0:51:51.120 --> 0:51:53.719
<v Speaker 1>to people who already know No, no.

0:51:53.480 --> 0:51:55.719
<v Speaker 3>No, you're right, you're right. I mean I met her

0:51:55.760 --> 0:51:59.520
<v Speaker 3>on Instagram, but then we've switched on Kick and talk

0:51:59.560 --> 0:52:01.799
<v Speaker 3>started talking each other every day, and then from there

0:52:01.840 --> 0:52:04.160
<v Speaker 3>we went from a meeting person and all that stuff

0:52:04.200 --> 0:52:07.080
<v Speaker 3>and then in the end getting married wow and all

0:52:07.120 --> 0:52:07.319
<v Speaker 3>of it.

0:52:07.920 --> 0:52:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Wow. So okay, and you are from Italy and where?

0:52:12.040 --> 0:52:12.960
<v Speaker 1>And she's an American?

0:52:14.120 --> 0:52:15.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's an American. Wow.

0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:18.400
<v Speaker 1>Okay, So you met on Instagram while you were living

0:52:18.600 --> 0:52:20.520
<v Speaker 1>in where? Where? In Italy?

0:52:21.040 --> 0:52:24.320
<v Speaker 3>I was living in close close to Naples, in a

0:52:25.080 --> 0:52:26.239
<v Speaker 3>town close to Naples.

0:52:26.400 --> 0:52:27.359
<v Speaker 1>And where was she living?

0:52:28.400 --> 0:52:30.040
<v Speaker 3>She was living here in Florida.

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:35.680
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay? And what was the Instagram exchange?

0:52:37.719 --> 0:52:39.439
<v Speaker 2>Uh?

0:52:39.680 --> 0:52:41.680
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. You know, back then, back then, I

0:52:41.760 --> 0:52:44.360
<v Speaker 3>used to be use a big social media guy. I

0:52:44.520 --> 0:52:48.480
<v Speaker 3>used to I used to post shit about myself from

0:52:48.600 --> 0:52:51.040
<v Speaker 3>me going to gym, me doing that, me doing that.

0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:54.440
<v Speaker 3>And of course I was a pretty good, good looking

0:52:54.440 --> 0:52:56.759
<v Speaker 3>guy back then, at least consider myself pretty good looking.

0:52:56.760 --> 0:52:59.759
<v Speaker 3>Back then. I was confident enough that I was able

0:52:59.760 --> 0:53:02.719
<v Speaker 3>to put some girls on that app on Instagram back then,

0:53:02.719 --> 0:53:05.080
<v Speaker 3>and it was it was easier back then, and.

0:53:06.040 --> 0:53:08.880
<v Speaker 1>It was it was easy. Why was it easier for

0:53:08.920 --> 0:53:12.080
<v Speaker 1>you to Was it because of algorithm changes or did

0:53:12.080 --> 0:53:12.680
<v Speaker 1>you get fat?

0:53:15.719 --> 0:53:16.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:19.080
<v Speaker 3>I just I feel like I was confident in myself

0:53:19.120 --> 0:53:20.600
<v Speaker 3>mostly That's why I it was easier.

0:53:21.200 --> 0:53:25.839
<v Speaker 1>Did yeah okay, okay, yeah okay, yeah. So you were

0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:27.879
<v Speaker 1>like a fitness influencer kind of guy.

0:53:28.200 --> 0:53:30.880
<v Speaker 3>No, no, no, no, no, no no no, I'm just a

0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:34.600
<v Speaker 3>regular guy. Bro mm hmm, just a regular guy. But anyway,

0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:37.160
<v Speaker 3>I know nothing even just from there, I just she

0:53:37.320 --> 0:53:41.800
<v Speaker 3>caught my attention. Just we started talking. She was the one, actually,

0:53:42.440 --> 0:53:44.680
<v Speaker 3>she was the one was the first thing, the first

0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:47.640
<v Speaker 3>took the first step and act if we wanted to

0:53:47.680 --> 0:53:49.759
<v Speaker 3>do something more, and then we went we went from

0:53:49.800 --> 0:53:53.200
<v Speaker 3>there and then they did for for a couple of

0:53:53.280 --> 0:53:55.680
<v Speaker 3>years and then go married. We've been married for ten years.

0:53:55.960 --> 0:53:56.960
<v Speaker 3>It's gonna be ten years.

0:53:57.160 --> 0:53:59.239
<v Speaker 1>Whoa, you've been married for ten years?

0:53:59.800 --> 0:54:00.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah?

0:54:00.719 --> 0:54:02.799
<v Speaker 1>Holy shit? How how old are you?

0:54:03.800 --> 0:54:04.360
<v Speaker 3>I'm thirty?

0:54:05.200 --> 0:54:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh well, you guys got married when you were twenty.

0:54:08.160 --> 0:54:09.719
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, on the early twenties. I know.

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:12.040
<v Speaker 1>Jeez, man, I know.

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:16.680
<v Speaker 3>Definitely a It's definitely a fucking wild ride. Brother.

0:54:17.560 --> 0:54:20.839
<v Speaker 1>Wow. So when did you move to America?

0:54:21.160 --> 0:54:23.000
<v Speaker 3>Moved to America back in twenty sixteen.

0:54:23.800 --> 0:54:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Wow, so okay, so yeah, right when you got married?

0:54:27.760 --> 0:54:27.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:54:28.040 --> 0:54:30.759
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. The funny thing is, I was waiting for some

0:54:30.800 --> 0:54:32.840
<v Speaker 3>stuff for me to come over here in the state

0:54:33.040 --> 0:54:36.799
<v Speaker 3>legally and stuff. I was I the meantime, I was

0:54:36.960 --> 0:54:38.839
<v Speaker 3>I really about the tickets. I was already planning to

0:54:38.840 --> 0:54:42.520
<v Speaker 3>come over here, get the wedding start and everything. And

0:54:43.600 --> 0:54:47.760
<v Speaker 3>I literally got my paper to come over here literally

0:54:47.920 --> 0:54:51.200
<v Speaker 3>the couple of days before my wedding. So let's say

0:54:51.239 --> 0:54:53.719
<v Speaker 3>I didn't get the paper in Italy, I wouldn't be

0:54:53.719 --> 0:54:56.000
<v Speaker 3>able to come over here and attend my wedding at all,

0:54:56.040 --> 0:54:57.560
<v Speaker 3>because we planned it over here in the States, not

0:54:57.560 --> 0:54:58.000
<v Speaker 3>in Italy.

0:55:00.000 --> 0:55:02.319
<v Speaker 1>And is she the same age as you?

0:55:03.360 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah? Yeah, she'd say it to me. She's actually four months.

0:55:07.680 --> 0:55:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Than cool.

0:55:09.120 --> 0:55:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Cool.

0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:11.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And so what do you do? How often do

0:55:11.960 --> 0:55:13.239
<v Speaker 1>you go back to the state. How often do you

0:55:13.239 --> 0:55:14.120
<v Speaker 1>go back to Italy?

0:55:15.320 --> 0:55:17.879
<v Speaker 3>I try to go back at least once a year.

0:55:18.160 --> 0:55:21.960
<v Speaker 3>But we're planning to move there. I feel like it's

0:55:21.960 --> 0:55:24.880
<v Speaker 3>a little over here. It's becoming a little too crazy

0:55:25.040 --> 0:55:25.719
<v Speaker 3>for our case.

0:55:26.680 --> 0:55:32.720
<v Speaker 1>WHOA really Yeah, see, Florida is the most American place,

0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:36.359
<v Speaker 1>one might say, right, and.

0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:39.239
<v Speaker 3>Actually, bro, I honestly don't blame you if you don't

0:55:39.239 --> 0:55:43.160
<v Speaker 3>have any tour down here, because I checked your list

0:55:43.160 --> 0:55:44.840
<v Speaker 3>and you know you don't have anything down here.

0:55:45.640 --> 0:55:49.600
<v Speaker 1>Oh in Florida. Oh, there's no particular reason why. I

0:55:49.640 --> 0:55:52.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know. Maybe I'll add something in Florida. Usually I'll

0:55:53.000 --> 0:55:57.480
<v Speaker 1>do like Tampa, Orlando or something, or miamid something in Florida.

0:55:57.600 --> 0:56:01.800
<v Speaker 1>But shit, man, maybe I'll add something in uh in Italy.

0:56:01.960 --> 0:56:03.080
<v Speaker 1>I was wanting to do Rome.

0:56:04.280 --> 0:56:08.240
<v Speaker 3>Shit. I know you were there for your schooling stuff, right, yeah.

0:56:08.200 --> 0:56:10.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, Damn. I just can't believe I mentioned that. Yeah

0:56:10.239 --> 0:56:13.319
<v Speaker 1>I did. I did stand up there like ten years

0:56:13.360 --> 0:56:15.600
<v Speaker 1>ago something like that, when I was when I was studying.

0:56:17.000 --> 0:56:18.879
<v Speaker 3>That's crazy. I probably was there at the same time

0:56:18.880 --> 0:56:21.600
<v Speaker 3>as you and Rome, because by that period in twenty sixteen,

0:56:22.680 --> 0:56:24.920
<v Speaker 3>I was in Rome as well. I wonder if I

0:56:24.920 --> 0:56:30.480
<v Speaker 3>have will pass you totally well. Culture, What do I

0:56:30.520 --> 0:56:35.200
<v Speaker 3>think about Italian culture? Yeah? Culture and food, dude, I.

0:56:35.080 --> 0:56:37.960
<v Speaker 1>Love I actually I love Italian food. I love the

0:56:38.600 --> 0:56:43.560
<v Speaker 1>all those pizzerias. I love the Iran Irancini all mine

0:56:43.840 --> 0:56:45.839
<v Speaker 1>I had. I had a great time in Rome, man,

0:56:45.880 --> 0:56:48.080
<v Speaker 1>I really did. That was kind of my first time

0:56:48.239 --> 0:56:50.600
<v Speaker 1>like that. That was That was actually kind of where

0:56:50.640 --> 0:56:52.960
<v Speaker 1>I first started like falling in love with like traveling

0:56:53.040 --> 0:57:00.200
<v Speaker 1>and having like weird adventures and stuff. I don't time. Yeah,

0:57:00.200 --> 0:57:02.120
<v Speaker 1>I missed. I miss uh Italy. I've been back to

0:57:02.120 --> 0:57:04.200
<v Speaker 1>Europe a bunch of times, like do shows and stuff,

0:57:04.200 --> 0:57:08.680
<v Speaker 1>but I have never been back to to to Italy since.

0:57:10.520 --> 0:57:11.239
<v Speaker 3>Oh it's the shame.

0:57:12.040 --> 0:57:14.080
<v Speaker 1>But people there had a good vibe. People that had

0:57:14.120 --> 0:57:15.440
<v Speaker 1>a good vibe. I remember. I don't know if this

0:57:15.520 --> 0:57:17.240
<v Speaker 1>was I don't know if this was like more reflective

0:57:17.280 --> 0:57:20.120
<v Speaker 1>of like who I was at the time, or if

0:57:20.120 --> 0:57:26.800
<v Speaker 1>it was more reflective of just like the the vibe

0:57:26.840 --> 0:57:32.200
<v Speaker 1>of the place rather. But I found that people would

0:57:32.240 --> 0:57:37.919
<v Speaker 1>talk to each other more on the subway and whatnot? Right?

0:57:37.960 --> 0:57:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel that way like people see people in uh,

0:57:40.760 --> 0:57:43.200
<v Speaker 1>Italy are a little bit more open, it seems th

0:57:43.280 --> 0:57:45.280
<v Speaker 1>people in America? Is that Do you think that's true?

0:57:45.520 --> 0:57:46.040
<v Speaker 1>That's true?

0:57:46.480 --> 0:57:50.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yes, yes it is. It's they're more like cordial

0:57:50.760 --> 0:57:53.240
<v Speaker 3>over there. It's more about it's a lot that you

0:57:53.280 --> 0:57:58.240
<v Speaker 3>care about, a lot about respect like there obviously always

0:57:58.840 --> 0:58:01.760
<v Speaker 3>it always. It's also import and how you present yourself

0:58:02.680 --> 0:58:06.360
<v Speaker 3>and stuff to them, you know, especially the old people

0:58:06.520 --> 0:58:13.000
<v Speaker 3>over there that really uh you know niche about uh,

0:58:15.160 --> 0:58:17.560
<v Speaker 3>just people in general. But he you know, I I

0:58:17.600 --> 0:58:20.440
<v Speaker 3>agree with you, I agree with you, and over there

0:58:20.440 --> 0:58:22.840
<v Speaker 3>a lot just slow paced. I don't know if you

0:58:22.880 --> 0:58:25.000
<v Speaker 3>notice way more slow paced?

0:58:26.080 --> 0:58:29.720
<v Speaker 1>Did did you fucking move from Naples, Italy and to Naples, Florida?

0:58:31.160 --> 0:58:36.000
<v Speaker 3>Bro Brother? Close close enough, close enough, that's all I

0:58:36.040 --> 0:58:36.520
<v Speaker 3>gotta say.

0:58:37.240 --> 0:58:43.280
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that's that. That's a bit of a downgrade for Naples.

0:58:44.560 --> 0:58:47.760
<v Speaker 3>I know, I don't know. Mama wife. You know, my wife,

0:58:47.760 --> 0:58:49.200
<v Speaker 3>she shows that shit in my face every day. I

0:58:49.240 --> 0:58:52.760
<v Speaker 3>don't have to, uh, I know, I know. She always

0:58:52.760 --> 0:58:54.320
<v Speaker 3>tells me that she wants to get married in Italy.

0:58:54.360 --> 0:58:55.960
<v Speaker 3>I don't, I don't. I don't blame her, but you know,

0:58:56.000 --> 0:58:57.280
<v Speaker 3>back then we were sucking young. I don't want to

0:58:57.320 --> 0:59:00.160
<v Speaker 3>come over here and live some life, live a different life.

0:59:00.920 --> 0:59:02.840
<v Speaker 1>So you guys are gonna move to Italy. Are you

0:59:02.920 --> 0:59:05.440
<v Speaker 1>excited about that? Or are you gonna miss America?

0:59:07.040 --> 0:59:09.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. I'm excited because I'm gonna be with

0:59:09.920 --> 0:59:12.720
<v Speaker 3>my family. My whole family's over there. I'm the only

0:59:12.760 --> 0:59:17.120
<v Speaker 3>one over here, so that's the positive side. Also, I've

0:59:17.160 --> 0:59:20.560
<v Speaker 3>been doing more stuff because I've noticed that since I

0:59:20.640 --> 0:59:24.120
<v Speaker 3>moved over here, then just the constant of fucking working, working,

0:59:24.880 --> 0:59:28.360
<v Speaker 3>go go home there, community games, eat dinner, go to gym,

0:59:29.480 --> 0:59:33.040
<v Speaker 3>fucking go to sleep, repeat, repeat, repeat, every fucking day.

0:59:34.400 --> 0:59:37.080
<v Speaker 3>I don't know. In Italy, I used to be able

0:59:37.120 --> 0:59:40.040
<v Speaker 3>to do more stuff. I used to be playing I

0:59:40.440 --> 0:59:42.600
<v Speaker 3>used to play soccer a lot with my friends. My

0:59:42.640 --> 0:59:46.400
<v Speaker 3>brothers used to go out just you know, for a

0:59:46.440 --> 0:59:48.920
<v Speaker 3>pizza or something, just to eat it out there on

0:59:49.040 --> 0:59:53.560
<v Speaker 3>the beach or all these little things. Bro. You know,

0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:56.760
<v Speaker 3>it makes you makes you miss it, of course, my home.

0:59:57.400 --> 1:00:00.720
<v Speaker 3>But I would also like it here. I want to

1:00:00.760 --> 1:00:03.400
<v Speaker 3>say I do like it. It's just it's more definitely

1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:09.160
<v Speaker 3>a different, a different thing. It's like black and white.

1:00:09.960 --> 1:00:11.560
<v Speaker 3>So mm hmmm mm hmmmm.

1:00:14.440 --> 1:00:17.920
<v Speaker 1>Is your wife gonna work down in uh? Are you

1:00:17.920 --> 1:00:20.040
<v Speaker 1>guys moving to Naples? Like where in Italy are you going?

1:00:21.560 --> 1:00:23.560
<v Speaker 3>No, we're moving close to Naples, in a small town

1:00:23.600 --> 1:00:24.280
<v Speaker 3>where I used to be.

1:00:25.440 --> 1:00:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you're gonna you guys are moving to a small

1:00:27.320 --> 1:00:29.080
<v Speaker 1>Italian town like your hometown.

1:00:29.400 --> 1:00:36.600
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's her. We're not gonna be

1:00:36.920 --> 1:00:38.640
<v Speaker 3>We're just gonna be there. We're just gonna be there

1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:41.560
<v Speaker 3>for the meantime because we're gonna have to steal my

1:00:41.600 --> 1:00:44.640
<v Speaker 3>parents at least six months just trying to figure it out.

1:00:45.120 --> 1:00:47.160
<v Speaker 3>What's my job? But what's my What am I gonna do?

1:00:47.280 --> 1:00:49.200
<v Speaker 3>Job wise? And if we're gonna get end up getting

1:00:49.240 --> 1:00:52.240
<v Speaker 3>an apartment or house or anything like that, you know.

1:00:53.000 --> 1:00:55.800
<v Speaker 3>But she is not going to work over there. She's

1:00:55.840 --> 1:00:57.920
<v Speaker 3>gonna be a full time mother because we're planning to

1:00:57.960 --> 1:00:58.720
<v Speaker 3>have a kid over there.

1:00:59.360 --> 1:01:00.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh cool first one.

1:01:02.040 --> 1:01:07.160
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, very excited one. I am. I am. I'm

1:01:07.160 --> 1:01:10.000
<v Speaker 3>always excited about her. I'm excited about myself, and I'm

1:01:10.000 --> 1:01:12.520
<v Speaker 3>glad that we waited all this time because I feel

1:01:12.560 --> 1:01:15.080
<v Speaker 3>like having a kid way too young and getting married

1:01:15.080 --> 1:01:17.479
<v Speaker 3>too young is a really is I wat too much?

1:01:18.360 --> 1:01:21.840
<v Speaker 3>Per se and having a kid just add more weight

1:01:21.960 --> 1:01:26.360
<v Speaker 3>and more responsibilities. I really didn't feel like it wouldn't

1:01:26.360 --> 1:01:29.040
<v Speaker 3>be good for us at the beginning. Nothing bad for

1:01:29.120 --> 1:01:31.360
<v Speaker 3>other people. I'm not just speaking for my own self,

1:01:32.040 --> 1:01:35.000
<v Speaker 3>but yeah, but I'm definitely excited about it, and my

1:01:35.040 --> 1:01:37.600
<v Speaker 3>wife is ready and I'm ready, and I think we're mature,

1:01:37.920 --> 1:01:41.040
<v Speaker 3>and you know, it's going to be nice to see

1:01:41.080 --> 1:01:47.240
<v Speaker 3>a little little Simon or little Ileana walking around house.

1:01:47.280 --> 1:01:47.560
<v Speaker 3>You know.

1:01:49.200 --> 1:01:49.840
<v Speaker 1>That'd be nice.

1:01:49.880 --> 1:01:51.360
<v Speaker 3>Man, mm hmmm.

1:01:52.600 --> 1:01:55.240
<v Speaker 1>So well, actually, I don't know if we got into this,

1:01:55.360 --> 1:01:59.960
<v Speaker 1>but did you uh uh mention a specific reason or

1:02:00.120 --> 1:02:01.640
<v Speaker 1>thing that you wanted to talk about? Are just kind

1:02:01.640 --> 1:02:03.000
<v Speaker 1>of the ups and downs of life?

1:02:04.200 --> 1:02:07.880
<v Speaker 3>I just no, just I mean, like I said, it's

1:02:07.880 --> 1:02:12.240
<v Speaker 3>just it's there was the stuff that I tried over here,

1:02:12.280 --> 1:02:16.040
<v Speaker 3>and like also doing drugs. That was part of my

1:02:16.080 --> 1:02:20.920
<v Speaker 3>life too, A little bit of thought I did. And

1:02:21.080 --> 1:02:22.919
<v Speaker 3>this is my wife. She doesn't know. Luckily she doesn't

1:02:22.920 --> 1:02:27.800
<v Speaker 3>listen to this podcast. I did cooking. I never ever

1:02:27.840 --> 1:02:30.320
<v Speaker 3>thought of my life could be cooking, but I tried it.

1:02:30.640 --> 1:02:37.000
<v Speaker 3>It was fun and that's it. And currently I'm we're

1:02:37.040 --> 1:02:39.240
<v Speaker 3>doing just we're just smoking a pan, me and my wife.

1:02:39.320 --> 1:02:41.680
<v Speaker 3>My wife She was always against this kind of stuff,

1:02:42.200 --> 1:02:44.720
<v Speaker 3>and now she ends up doing the same thing I do.

1:02:45.240 --> 1:02:47.120
<v Speaker 3>She kind of accepted it, and she like that now

1:02:47.120 --> 1:02:48.880
<v Speaker 3>she enjoyed it. You know, we do it every time

1:02:49.000 --> 1:02:52.320
<v Speaker 3>played from art Credit, Fortnite and Night with the Family

1:02:52.360 --> 1:02:58.160
<v Speaker 3>and this end of the time. Oh yeah, but yeah,

1:02:58.720 --> 1:03:00.360
<v Speaker 3>quite quite the new ship.

1:03:01.280 --> 1:03:03.520
<v Speaker 1>So she doesn't know that you once did cocaine.

1:03:04.240 --> 1:03:04.640
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm.

1:03:05.160 --> 1:03:08.160
<v Speaker 1>No, she will when she she would kill you. How

1:03:08.160 --> 1:03:09.040
<v Speaker 1>long ago did you do it?

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<v Speaker 3>How long I was?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 3>I was not nothing crazy. It was literally just maybe

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<v Speaker 3>I tried it for like maybe four times in a

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<v Speaker 3>span of two months.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I mean how long ago was it? It's not

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<v Speaker 1>like you did cocaine last Thursday.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it was a couple of years ago. It was

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<v Speaker 3>a couple of years ago. Okay, Yeah, nothing crazy m hm.

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<v Speaker 1>And yeah, so you guys, you guys are pen hitters.

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<v Speaker 3>You were were pen hitters. I used to be a

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<v Speaker 3>I give up. I gave up on the the with

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<v Speaker 3>that thing that you smoked, the pipe because I end

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<v Speaker 3>up getting obliterated on that mother Parker end. And you

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<v Speaker 3>don't want to see me like that, bro. Honestly, my

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<v Speaker 3>wife she's seen enough.

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<v Speaker 1>Now when you guys, go to Italy, you're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to give up the drugs. I think. I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>pretty illegal there and know that.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, I don't give a fuck. It's whatever

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<v Speaker 3>life comes and goes, and honestly, I think it will be.

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<v Speaker 3>We be better off without it, especially if're gonna planning

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<v Speaker 3>to have a kid anyway, so kind of gotta be responsible.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not true, it's true. It's true. It's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, what about you. My name is Simon.

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<v Speaker 1>Simon, Simon Cowell. Dude, cool. Does your wife speak Italian?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, she's actually she's more like uh and uh. She

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<v Speaker 3>she understands it more than she speaks it. She can

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<v Speaker 3>speak it. She's just really shy and she really felt

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<v Speaker 3>aware of herself. She's like, dude, I started, I started.

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<v Speaker 3>I do the same fucking thing. I used to do

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<v Speaker 3>the same thing with English. I've just got out I

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<v Speaker 3>especially when I moved over here. I had to deal

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<v Speaker 3>with it. I had to start speaking with people, and

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<v Speaker 3>she I am, I'm pretty sure you can steak you

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of my accent, but there's nothing I

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<v Speaker 3>can do.

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<v Speaker 1>I thought, I actually I thought you were like Latin American.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh boy, even on the phone.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, do you get this a lot?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? My god?

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<v Speaker 3>Brother? So they you just look at me, and they

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<v Speaker 3>are actually a few matematically domagic Cuban Argentinian.

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<v Speaker 1>Well it's well, dude, I mean you're you're you live

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<v Speaker 1>in fucking Florida. I feel like Italians are not like

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, Italian Americans are are rampant amongst America, but

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<v Speaker 1>I like Italian Italians are not. Really. Uh oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I know, I know around Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Do you know any curse ward in Italian?

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<v Speaker 1>I know Alfan Coulo.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh good one. Okay, that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you guys, if you want to teach me before

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<v Speaker 1>we go, hit me with a couple, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Can teach you. Uh thronso Petrda. The worst one is

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<v Speaker 3>port cordeo. But that's for people that you know are religious.

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<v Speaker 1>That's that's God as a pig, right.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's got my favorite one. Another lie or cordeo

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<v Speaker 3>orc something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, what are the man?

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<v Speaker 3>The ocanan means it's basically calling God a.

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<v Speaker 1>Dog, pretty much, come of a dog?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, calling God a dog pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So these are mainly just curses towards God.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, bro, in my language, in my dialect, we have

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<v Speaker 3>so many curse words. We can literally just start cursing

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<v Speaker 3>your ancestors and your mother's incestors and all that bullshit.

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<v Speaker 3>It's crazy. My language is crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Simon, personally, I hope your answer. Ancestors are doing great?

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<v Speaker 2>You bro?

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<v Speaker 1>Course, what the fuck is there anything us you want

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<v Speaker 1>to say to the people of the computer before we go?

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<v Speaker 3>Ah, enjoy life and just be kind. I thank you

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<v Speaker 3>for thinking my call. Brother.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, of course, man, get bless yet blessed brother. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>Simon forever, Simon forever. Recon goes on the line taking

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<v Speaker 1>your phone calls every night. Deacon goes to side. You're

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<v Speaker 1>just teaching you a loud your life. Monday's not really

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<v Speaker 1>an expert.