WEBVTT - Rebroadcast Ep1 Peter Brown

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, everybody, welcome to Car Stories.

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<v Speaker 2>This is some King and Amelia Hartford.

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<v Speaker 1>Joining us today is Peter Brown.

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<v Speaker 2>He has been the supervising sound editor for the Fast

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<v Speaker 2>and Furious franchise. It's Tokyo Drift.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean a big part of why we love

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<v Speaker 1>cars is the way it sounds. It's the voice of

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<v Speaker 1>the car. Yeah, it's the voice of the character.

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<v Speaker 2>Peter himself is going out there recording the cars on

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<v Speaker 2>a Dino on the street, getting microphones all over from

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<v Speaker 2>the engine bay and the cab to the exhaust. Like

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<v Speaker 2>we get in some crazy detailed conversation about what that

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<v Speaker 2>process looks like in his hunt for very specific sounding cars, and.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of you know, car guys will not let

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<v Speaker 1>a Hollywood production come and use their car. They will

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<v Speaker 1>let Peter, you know. And this passion is infectious.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really cool to see someone who wasn't necessarily into

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<v Speaker 2>cars before joining Tokyo Drift in the Fast and Furious

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<v Speaker 2>franchise to what they've grown to love. Because everyone who

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<v Speaker 2>gets into cars finds their lane upon intent, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>really cool to hear what he was so.

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<v Speaker 1>Passionate about, speaking of following your lane. I love Peter's

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<v Speaker 1>ethos about knowing yourself and what you believe in and

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<v Speaker 1>what your passion is and not worry about other people.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's almost so simple and he applies it to

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<v Speaker 1>his sound work. And without further ado.

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<v Speaker 2>We'd love to introduce to you Peter Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're here with Peter Brown Sound. What would your

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<v Speaker 1>title be? Peter?

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<v Speaker 3>I usually introduce myself as a sound guy, but I'm

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<v Speaker 3>a supervising sound editor, so I work with a team

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<v Speaker 3>of folks to put the sound into motion pictures and

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<v Speaker 3>we have to do every sound that you hear except

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<v Speaker 3>for the music, so the dialogue, the sound effects, the

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<v Speaker 3>folly if you've heard of that, which is where individual

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<v Speaker 3>sounds are reproduced in a studio for the film, and

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<v Speaker 3>sound design explosions, horse whinnies, creatures sounds, horse.

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<v Speaker 1>Weenies, whinnies, whennies and footsteps and horses weenies had sound,

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<v Speaker 1>was like, that's a different kind of film. So when

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<v Speaker 1>you say sound design, you actually make some of the sounds,

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<v Speaker 1>like you create it from scratch.

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<v Speaker 3>Well sounds sounds are invisible, so they're kind of hard

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<v Speaker 3>to quantify, but they usually come organically through a microphone,

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<v Speaker 3>like we're making sounds here, and then through the glory

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<v Speaker 3>of machines and technology, you can manipulate those sounds, make

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<v Speaker 3>them go backwards, speed them up, slow them down, combine

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<v Speaker 3>them with other sounds. And sound design is a somewhat

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<v Speaker 3>new term, but it encompasses all of that, and it

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<v Speaker 3>could be everything from making the doth rocky language in

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<v Speaker 3>Game of Thrones to making the sounds of the undersea

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<v Speaker 3>world of Atlantis, things that have never been heard before.

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<v Speaker 3>But are you made of things that have been recorded

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<v Speaker 3>before or things that are synthesized completely from scratch in

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<v Speaker 3>a computer.

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<v Speaker 2>Have you always been into sound growing up?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I listened to a lot of radio when I

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<v Speaker 3>was a kid. I think that was the I'm not

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<v Speaker 3>old enough to have just had radio as entertainment, so

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<v Speaker 3>I definitely watched my television as well. I do recall

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<v Speaker 3>a number of things, you know, that were only available.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm from western New York, so it was not in

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<v Speaker 3>any of the big cities, and there were things that

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<v Speaker 3>would come on the radio that were just kind of

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<v Speaker 3>amazing to me, like Doctor Demento. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>that hits your generation at all, but it was a

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<v Speaker 3>weird radio show that this guy had out on the

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<v Speaker 3>West Coast and covered all different genres of music and

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<v Speaker 3>novelty songs, but also told a lot of history of sound.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the BBC did a series based on Douglas

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<v Speaker 3>Adams books called The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>it's had television shows, it's had movies, but for me,

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<v Speaker 3>nothing compares to what the BBC Radiophonic Studio did. Their

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<v Speaker 3>sound effects and the stuff they created there was fantastic.

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<v Speaker 3>So you know, I spent a lot of a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of time listening to weird things. It wasn't my main focus,

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<v Speaker 3>but yeah, I think I've always been into sound.

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<v Speaker 2>That's so interesting because when I was younger, like the

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<v Speaker 2>acting is what stood out to me, And I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>there's different things that stand out to different people, but

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<v Speaker 2>for you being the sound, was there a certain point

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<v Speaker 2>where you're like, this is what I am passionate about

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<v Speaker 2>pursuing and doing.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say that that didn't come into my life

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<v Speaker 3>until probably my early twenties, when I was in grad school.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm from Rochester, New York, the land of eastman Kodak,

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<v Speaker 3>where my dad was an electrochemist and so he had

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<v Speaker 3>the rare privilege to be able to bring home expired

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<v Speaker 3>Super eight film. So I basically, as a kid, had

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<v Speaker 3>this rare opportunity to have free motion picture film and processing,

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<v Speaker 3>which was sound free, by the way. But I developed

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<v Speaker 3>a passion for that, just shooting little films with my

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<v Speaker 3>friends and cutting them together and learning how to work

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<v Speaker 3>with film. So I knew before I went to college

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<v Speaker 3>that I wanted to go into filmmaking. I love that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I went to undergrad at a nice liberal arts school,

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<v Speaker 3>where I found a wife and learned excellent cocktail conversation

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<v Speaker 3>and had generally a fantastic time. But I knew that

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to go out and do a trade. I

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to learn something concrete and specific. So I went

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<v Speaker 3>to grad school, came out here to the West Coast,

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<v Speaker 3>and I had the dream. I think that a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the other people who went there, we wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>be the next John Singleton or Steven Spielberg or George

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<v Speaker 3>Lucas wanted to be a writer, director, auteur kind of filmmaker.

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<v Speaker 3>And at USC you get to do a little bit

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<v Speaker 3>of everything. You know, whatever you want to do. It's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be very long answer to a simple question

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<v Speaker 3>I've had it very interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>So I learned pretty early on that if you wanted

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<v Speaker 3>to make it in Hollywood, if you wanted to write

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<v Speaker 3>your own destiny, it seemed like the very best thing

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<v Speaker 3>to do was to be a writer, because that way

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<v Speaker 3>you could generate things out of thin air, you could

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<v Speaker 3>control the destiny, and if you were really persistent and

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<v Speaker 3>super successful, you could eventually kick the door in and

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<v Speaker 3>become a director. And I found out really early that

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<v Speaker 3>writing is pretty painful for me, and I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>to be successful in life, you have to be very

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<v Speaker 3>you have to have your ears and your eyes open

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<v Speaker 3>to you know, the most important thing in your world.

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<v Speaker 3>You You've got to know who you are and what

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<v Speaker 3>you're good at. If you know what your impressions are

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<v Speaker 3>when you're young, don't always match up with your with

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<v Speaker 3>your propensities or your interests. And so I that I,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I wasn't going to be a writer. I

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<v Speaker 3>did direct the documentary about one of my passions, which

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<v Speaker 3>is free solo rock climbing, but that was a you know,

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<v Speaker 3>that was a great process and the film did really well.

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<v Speaker 3>I did cinematography on another documentary I did. But anyway,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I wore all those hats, and when I

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<v Speaker 3>was just in my second year in school, there was

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<v Speaker 3>an opportunity just for sound people they couldn't and this

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<v Speaker 3>will be a theme in probably anybody who's ever made

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<v Speaker 3>an independent film. You can find somebody to do everything,

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<v Speaker 3>but you just can't find that production sound guy. Or

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<v Speaker 3>everybody will work for free, but the production sound guy won't.

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<v Speaker 3>So what I realized in school, by the time I

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<v Speaker 3>made it to my third year, I had kind of

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<v Speaker 3>become the go to sound guy. Everybody else they still

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<v Speaker 3>wanted to do the writer director thing, or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>had some other passion. There were very few people at

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<v Speaker 3>SC who had, you know, had a taste for sound

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<v Speaker 3>because it's not glamorous, it's not easy, and it's super

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<v Speaker 3>labor intensive, so it's very hard to fake. You can't

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<v Speaker 3>really phone in a good sound job. So I could

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<v Speaker 3>see that my talents the person I am, just matched

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<v Speaker 3>up with the requirements for sound. And I came out

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<v Speaker 3>here from Rochester, I don't know, I didn't know anybody

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<v Speaker 3>in town, so I knew I had to pay off

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<v Speaker 3>these student loans by doing something. So it was something

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<v Speaker 3>that I was good at, and it was something that

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<v Speaker 3>I saw that I could get employment with immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>So Pete, can you talk about how you got into

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<v Speaker 1>the Fast and Furious movies, Like when did you start

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<v Speaker 1>working on those the franchise?

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<v Speaker 3>I started working on Fast and Furious with Tokyo Drift,

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<v Speaker 3>as a lot of us did. The string of events

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<v Speaker 3>went like my first job in the sound business, I

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<v Speaker 3>worked at a place called the Creative Cafe for eight

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<v Speaker 3>years and my boss, Steve hunter Flick, did a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of films with Sally Menke, a great picture editor, and

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<v Speaker 3>as I was kind of, you know, the errand boy,

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<v Speaker 3>running around doing everything I can, trying to make the

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<v Speaker 3>most of my opportunity, there was a picture assistant working

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<v Speaker 3>for a Sally named Fred Raskin.

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<v Speaker 1>Fred. I know Fred, you know Freda. So it was

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<v Speaker 1>the editor for Better Luck Tomorrow and Fast and Furious,

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<v Speaker 1>Tokyo Drift exactly now just Quentin Tarantino movies.

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<v Speaker 3>And my boss and Sally did Quentin Tarantino movies. So

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<v Speaker 3>as we kind of came up through the trenches, we

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<v Speaker 3>you know, we'd see each other taking stuff back and

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<v Speaker 3>forth or handing things off. He saw something in me,

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<v Speaker 3>and after Better Luck Tomorrow, when Annapolis happened. They needed

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<v Speaker 3>a sound guy, and God blessed Fred Raskin, but he

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<v Speaker 3>insisted that that sound guy be me and the company

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<v Speaker 3>that I eventually worked for. They threw Oscar winners at him,

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<v Speaker 3>they threw you know, really great sound folks at him,

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<v Speaker 3>and he just stuck to his guns and said, nope,

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<v Speaker 3>I want Peter Brown. So that opportunity opened a ton

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<v Speaker 3>of doors. You know, I really killed myself to do that.

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<v Speaker 3>But that was something funny that happened. At the first

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<v Speaker 3>preview of the movie, someone in the focus group mentioned

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<v Speaker 3>how great the boxing sounds were. This never happens in

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<v Speaker 3>the focus groups. Nobody really ever talks about the sound,

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<v Speaker 3>and so Disney was super happy. The companies who's umbrella

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<v Speaker 3>I was working on it was super happy, and so

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<v Speaker 3>that turned into, you know, a great relationship with the

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<v Speaker 3>company that I work with now since that time. And

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<v Speaker 3>when we were doing the final mix on Annapolis, Justin

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<v Speaker 3>came into the stage one day and he was really

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<v Speaker 3>busy because he was like, you know, like a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of directors, you know, you're only You're only as good

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<v Speaker 3>as the last thing you've made. So that's the time

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<v Speaker 3>to strike the iron and get the next films going,

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<v Speaker 3>and he came in and he was like, well, I've

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<v Speaker 3>got three offers on the table. I don't really know

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<v Speaker 3>what I should do, and I don't remember what the

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<v Speaker 3>first two were. It was, you know, film may film

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<v Speaker 3>be and Fast and Furious.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just like, justin, you must do Fast

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<v Speaker 1>and Furious.

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<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, and he's like, we'll see, Oh, that's so fun,

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<v Speaker 3>and you know, sure enough, a few months later he

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<v Speaker 3>was doing Fast and Furious.

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<v Speaker 2>Had you done many car films prior to that?

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<v Speaker 3>No, But as a sound guy, I knew that if

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<v Speaker 3>I was going to do anything of substance, anything you know, worthwhile,

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<v Speaker 3>you kind of need to do a science fiction film,

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<v Speaker 3>a war film, or a racing film. It's not entirely

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<v Speaker 3>exclusive set, but those are the types of films where

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<v Speaker 3>you can really sink your teeth in.

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<v Speaker 2>Were you into cars prior to Tokyo.

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<v Speaker 3>Drift, I'm sorry to admit no, not really.

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<v Speaker 2>So you had a lot of fun learning about the

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<v Speaker 2>different engines and the different sounds of them, so much fun.

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<v Speaker 3>And you're totally right about the education thing. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>one of the one of the best things about life,

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<v Speaker 3>or one of the things I think that keeps you

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<v Speaker 3>alive is just curiosity and learning.

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<v Speaker 2>I always say the same thing. If I'm not learning,

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<v Speaker 2>then I need to reevaluate things, because that's what keeps

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<v Speaker 2>me engaged.

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<v Speaker 3>Interested and what makes documentaries so great to work on. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>but here was a situation where there was a whole

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<v Speaker 3>world of things that I knew nothing about and was

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<v Speaker 3>able to just throw myself into it. And it was

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<v Speaker 3>a great time to do it because La was alive

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<v Speaker 3>with people drifting and so you know, suddenly, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>my vocabulary was one jay z RB twenty four. All

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<v Speaker 3>these you know, letters and numbers and things that I

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<v Speaker 3>didn't know, and you know, our job is to augment

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<v Speaker 3>the story in the film, and cars are a fantastic

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<v Speaker 3>opportunity to you know, be an extension of the characters

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<v Speaker 3>in the film. So I had to learn about all

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<v Speaker 3>these different cars and figure out, you know, what they

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<v Speaker 3>were and what would be correct. Very often, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the studeo seems to be kind of relaxed about what

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<v Speaker 3>you use. They kind of think all these things exist

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<v Speaker 3>in libraries, can't you just use that? But one of

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<v Speaker 3>my favorite parts of the process is going out and

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<v Speaker 3>finding the right material, the organic, original piece and then

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<v Speaker 3>bringing that into the studio, so I had to learn

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<v Speaker 3>about all these cars and stuff that really didn't exist

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<v Speaker 3>in libraries at all. And so I recorded, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>two forty s x's, three fifty z's, all the cars

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<v Speaker 3>in there. And I think I even I recorded what

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<v Speaker 3>is still my favorite car, which was the Fulcon Motorsports

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<v Speaker 3>RX seven, which we used for Hans car.

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<v Speaker 2>That is beautiful. That erodary is your favorite sounding car

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<v Speaker 2>on your first car project, ad.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean even I listened to a lot of cars.

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<v Speaker 3>I cut in a lot of cars. Nothing sounds like

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<v Speaker 3>this engine.

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<v Speaker 1>It is such a beast.

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<v Speaker 3>And what I brought along to take a listen to

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<v Speaker 3>is the best recording of that engine. And indeed it

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<v Speaker 3>died either during this recording moment or moments afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you mean it died, I mean it died.

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<v Speaker 1>The engine died. Oh anybody? This is why nobody wants

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<v Speaker 1>to let the Fast and Furious crew borrow their cars,

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<v Speaker 1>because it's notorious.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess for people who don't know a rotary, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>probably not the best to explain it because I haven't

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<v Speaker 2>had my hands on one yet. But they're also known

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<v Speaker 2>as Dorito's and it's essentially a cameless engine. You have

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<v Speaker 2>this Dorrito kind of creating revolutions internally, that's creating combustion.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just a different a different style of an engine.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not doing it justice at all. Rotaries are notorious

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<v Speaker 2>for that blop blop sound.

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<v Speaker 1>Opposed to the piston sound, which sounds like a sewing machine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never heard so. Yeah, that's a perfect way been.

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<v Speaker 1>Down opposed to you know, rotary right spinning again.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think what broke on this thing was the

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<v Speaker 3>tip of one of those corners of the Dorito. Something

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<v Speaker 3>went wrong in that.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's the definition. The Winkle engine is a type of

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<v Speaker 2>internal combustion engine using an eccentric rotary design to confront

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<v Speaker 2>pressure into rotating motion.

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<v Speaker 1>I like Darden, Yeah, yeah, okay, So it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>Dorito spinning.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then intake goes in the rotation, crazy the compression,

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<v Speaker 2>and then it goes out the exhaust.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, let's listen to this, bad boy, I want to

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<v Speaker 1>hear it.

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<v Speaker 3>So we put Mike's in the engine apartment, we put

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<v Speaker 3>Mike's on the exhaust pipe. We put microphones inside the

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<v Speaker 3>car so that we have a whole variety of perspectives

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<v Speaker 3>of the car, and no matter what gets thrown at

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<v Speaker 3>us on the film, we can reproduce it. If we're

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<v Speaker 3>having the driver's POV, we've got the perspective. If we

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<v Speaker 3>want to feature the blowoff valve on the turbo, we've

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<v Speaker 3>got a mic right next to that, and so we

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<v Speaker 3>can isolate that from all the rest of the sounds.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, it seems so obvious, but that's not something

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<v Speaker 2>that I would think of. Is usually when I'm recording,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, okay, microphone by the exhaust. But to put

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<v Speaker 2>one in the engine ban and then also in the

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<v Speaker 2>cab of the car, I mean, I guess, yeah, you

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<v Speaker 2>need those different sounds.

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<v Speaker 3>This is an exterior perspective. So in addition to having

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<v Speaker 3>all the mics on the cars, we'll be lined up

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<v Speaker 3>along the racetrack or the runway, one person after the other.

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<v Speaker 3>So one person will get the car starting up, and

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<v Speaker 3>then the next person gets the car going by as

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<v Speaker 3>it's in second gear, and then the next person gets

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<v Speaker 3>the shift from second to third, and then the next

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<v Speaker 3>person you might get the shift from.

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<v Speaker 1>Third to fourth.

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<v Speaker 3>So this one is getting the car further down, further

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<v Speaker 3>down the track, but you'll get to hear this performance.

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<v Speaker 3>All these microphones are recording the same performance of the car,

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<v Speaker 3>and you'll get a chance to hear the differences between them.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's a good sound.

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<v Speaker 3>It is, okay, So why is the RX seven special

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<v Speaker 3>to me? There's definitely some of it which comes from

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<v Speaker 3>the first time you'd do something. This was the first

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<v Speaker 3>car film that I did. When we were putting the

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<v Speaker 3>mix together, it was just so it was so loud.

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<v Speaker 3>It was really hard to get pieces to read. You know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think we knew what We don't know what

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<v Speaker 3>we know now about how to balance some of those sounds,

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<v Speaker 3>but never had any problem getting that to cut through.

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<v Speaker 3>And the way some combination of the amount of horsepower

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<v Speaker 3>in that car and the way the rev limitter hits

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<v Speaker 3>is just it has the element that we are always

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<v Speaker 3>asked for in film sound, which is the director will

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<v Speaker 3>always come in with some difficult spot and say, okay

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<v Speaker 3>the sound for this, and I want an iconic, I

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<v Speaker 3>want a signature sound. So this was like my first

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<v Speaker 3>signature sound. It's something that I think you could play.

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<v Speaker 3>It's you know, it's my lightsaber. You could play it

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<v Speaker 3>for anybody anywhere who knows a thing or two about cars,

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<v Speaker 3>and they'll be like, hey, that's that's Hans RX seven

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<v Speaker 3>from Tokyo Drift.

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<v Speaker 2>Very unique sound for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we hear another perspective of the road re engine?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, this is closer to the start of the launch here.

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<v Speaker 2>So this is still the RX seven. We're now listening

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<v Speaker 2>from a different here.

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<v Speaker 3>You'll hear, you know, just a really really nice, rich

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<v Speaker 3>recording and the type of you know sound that you

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<v Speaker 3>hear in multiple places in Tokyo Drift.

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<v Speaker 2>M God, I love cars.

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<v Speaker 1>That that sounds like that sequence at the stoplight with

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<v Speaker 1>the exchanging of the numbers, and they're like.

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<v Speaker 3>It brings you back, like the smell of your girlfriend's.

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<v Speaker 1>Perfume donuting around the girls that recording that's that Yeah, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>there you go. But it just it's it's it was

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<v Speaker 1>on loop, like as we spent around.

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<v Speaker 3>There's definitely you know, there's other pieces in there. So

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<v Speaker 3>this is a tailpipe mic from the same performance, but

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<v Speaker 3>this is attached to the car, so you don't get

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<v Speaker 3>any of the perspective change. And this would have also

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<v Speaker 3>been used in that in that scene.

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<v Speaker 1>M hm. Iconic one of a kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Typically, when I'm recording my cars, it's for YouTube,

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<v Speaker 2>and I want to show the audience what you know,

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<v Speaker 2>how a modification can change the sound of a vehicle.

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<v Speaker 1>That sounds really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I like the sound coming from a tailpipe the best,

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<v Speaker 2>unless it's like a supercharger or something turbo. You want

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<v Speaker 2>that microphone in the engine bay. But I find that

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<v Speaker 2>when I'm recording, most of it is from behind the car,

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<v Speaker 2>so people can really get that that raw tailpipe exhaust sound.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, every little modification on a car seems to

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<v Speaker 2>change how that sounds.

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<v Speaker 3>I also I feel the same way about tailpipes. That's

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<v Speaker 3>to me, where the signature is. Yeah, with accents from

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<v Speaker 3>the or the supercharger totally, And that modding process, even

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<v Speaker 3>though I don't understand it, is very important to me

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<v Speaker 3>because if I get, you know, a car, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just from the manufacturer generally and especially nowadays, it doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>really sound like much because what I'm interested in in

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<v Speaker 3>a car is the power of the engine, the sound

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<v Speaker 3>and the character of it. And what car manufacturers are

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<v Speaker 3>interested in is that the car is silent and is

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<v Speaker 3>a nice ride.

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<v Speaker 2>So the non muffled version is what.

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<v Speaker 1>You like, right, and which is what we all like.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't like I don't like to cheat because

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<v Speaker 3>the fans are important. But in Fast nine, for example,

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<v Speaker 3>you're driving a Supra and we went and recorded that Supra.

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<v Speaker 3>It was a brand new Supra, so they often do

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<v Speaker 3>product placements, and it sounded like nothing. It's just it

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<v Speaker 3>was a nice, quiet car.

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<v Speaker 1>So we might have put a three fifty in there, really.

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<v Speaker 3>Because I thought that was appropriate for your character, and

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<v Speaker 3>it had a little bit of the rev limitter hit.

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<v Speaker 3>I wanted to I wanted to harken back to that car.

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<v Speaker 3>So that was a moment where took some artistic license

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<v Speaker 3>and said, look this this is not going the It's

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<v Speaker 3>not going to cut through the sound of the rest

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<v Speaker 3>of the film, but Hans driving it, so it needs

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<v Speaker 3>to sound like a Han car.

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<v Speaker 1>If you had called me, I could have got you

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<v Speaker 1>Supra that had some modified sound.

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<v Speaker 3>The problem was and I would have called you, but

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<v Speaker 3>it was it was plague years right. It was like

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<v Speaker 3>a day or so after Tom Hanks got COVID and

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<v Speaker 3>we realized in Hollywood it was real.

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<v Speaker 2>Is it possible to hear the other car sounds if

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<v Speaker 2>you just do one of each of the few you.

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<v Speaker 3>Brought, Well, we can listen to the Chevy. But here's

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<v Speaker 3>another example of cheating. This is Hans' car in Fast

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<v Speaker 3>and Furious four. What the production car was was a

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<v Speaker 3>nineteen sixty seven Chevy C ten, but it had pipes

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<v Speaker 3>up the side of it like a diesel. So if

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<v Speaker 3>you're confused, is that driving reverse? That's that's when you

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<v Speaker 3>do your one eighty and then you're driving in reverse.

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<v Speaker 3>So that is a Frankenstein car. Dom was in what

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<v Speaker 3>a Grand National There was a semi like a Cummings

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<v Speaker 3>Diesel semi, and you and Tigo were in these pickup

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<v Speaker 3>trucks I think are used an LS three, probably from

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<v Speaker 3>one of Dennis's trophy trucks for Tigos. But this one

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<v Speaker 3>is this is a doppelganger Frankenstein car where I wanted

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<v Speaker 3>it to sound like a diesel because that's what looked like.

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<v Speaker 3>But getting good diesel recordings is really difficult.

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<v Speaker 2>Why is it difficult to record diesels?

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<v Speaker 3>You know? The it's a similar problem with with a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of cars is that car manufacturers are just getting

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<v Speaker 3>really good at this, and so engines are getting more

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<v Speaker 3>and more efficient with diesels in my experience, and I

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<v Speaker 3>don't exactly know how they're made. Most diesels these days

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<v Speaker 3>are turbos and the turbo you know, is very efficient.

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<v Speaker 1>It's taking those.

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<v Speaker 3>Exhaust gases and turning it back into you know, forcing

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<v Speaker 3>air into the engine and power, and it's it to me,

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<v Speaker 3>it just sounds like a hair dryer, just a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of air. We recorded Banks's diesel Dragstert and it just

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<v Speaker 3>you know, it just sounds like.

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<v Speaker 2>That sounds so good, but I understand it's also not

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<v Speaker 2>the sound you're looking for.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, it's just when mixed in with music and other things,

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<v Speaker 3>it's kind of like white noise.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you lose the sound of the engine.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so from my ears, I like old, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>crappy fifties diesels stuff where that aren't all turbocharged and

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<v Speaker 3>they really have a you know, fun sounds to them.

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<v Speaker 3>Or you know a diesel that's you know, just doesn't

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<v Speaker 3>is not so efficient that it just sounds like a

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<v Speaker 3>big hair dryer. And they're really hard to come by,

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<v Speaker 3>sure because you know most of those are you know,

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<v Speaker 3>getting older, or they're not. They're built as workhorses, they're

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<v Speaker 3>not built as race cars.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if I'm happy to help you find one, if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to record one and need help sourcing one.

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<v Speaker 3>There's probably somebody somewhere. Oh yeah, until you listeners out there.

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<v Speaker 3>If you've got an old diesel that you want recorded,

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<v Speaker 3>give me a holler. But back to the C ten,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that there's all kinds of cars mixed in there.

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<v Speaker 3>When you really get on it, I actually cut dragstre engines,

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<v Speaker 3>so it goes from a diesel to a V eight.

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<v Speaker 3>And then when you spin around that wine that you

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<v Speaker 3>hear that you know that that thing is backing up.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's from a Honda.

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<v Speaker 3>Accord, because there's there's a few there's a range of

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<v Speaker 3>Japanese cars, maybe late eighties or early nineties that really

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<v Speaker 3>have a very characteristic backup gear that has.

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<v Speaker 1>That high sound.

0:26:19.000 --> 0:26:21.960
<v Speaker 3>And so when I need to say instantly to the audience,

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:24.920
<v Speaker 3>backing up fast, I use that, even though it makes

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<v Speaker 3>no logical sense to any car people. But so far

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<v Speaker 3>nobody's complained about it. But now that I've let my

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<v Speaker 3>pants down, I expect the hate mail is going to

0:26:32.720 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 3>start pouring in.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's the title sound designer. You have to design

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:39.159
<v Speaker 1>these sounds to tell the story too. I mean the

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:42.639
<v Speaker 1>idea of make you know, finding the right sound to

0:26:42.640 --> 0:26:48.040
<v Speaker 1>go to explain or to showcase going into reverse, especially

0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:51.360
<v Speaker 1>if the car doesn't or the the engine that's supposed

0:26:51.359 --> 0:26:53.040
<v Speaker 1>to be in the car doesn't make it. You have

0:26:53.119 --> 0:26:55.680
<v Speaker 1>to create that. You have to design that. It's pretty cool.

0:26:55.880 --> 0:27:01.960
<v Speaker 1>Who would have known it's a Honda Chord. Huh yeah, right,

0:27:11.720 --> 0:27:14.680
<v Speaker 1>let's keep these clips, So let's do another car.

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:17.440
<v Speaker 3>This might be my second favorite. I don't know why

0:27:17.480 --> 0:27:21.359
<v Speaker 3>you're always involved somehow in these cars. But in Fast

0:27:21.400 --> 0:27:24.680
<v Speaker 3>and Furious five is a brief moment where Han is

0:27:24.800 --> 0:27:28.760
<v Speaker 3>driving through the city in a Ford Maverick. So part

0:27:28.800 --> 0:27:31.119
<v Speaker 3>of it is the engine, part of it is what

0:27:31.160 --> 0:27:33.480
<v Speaker 3>we do with recording, part of it is editing, but

0:27:33.520 --> 0:27:35.960
<v Speaker 3>a huge part of it is the performance of the driver.

0:27:36.840 --> 0:27:43.000
<v Speaker 3>If the driver knows film and understands storytelling, they can

0:27:43.080 --> 0:27:46.480
<v Speaker 3>do miraculous things with the car. They can make it speak.

0:27:46.520 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 3>I don't drive these cars. I have professionals do it.

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:52.679
<v Speaker 3>Like we worked with Kenji last week over at Grety,

0:27:53.160 --> 0:27:56.040
<v Speaker 3>and this is a guy who just understands story and

0:27:56.040 --> 0:27:59.600
<v Speaker 3>he understands what we're looking for and how to make

0:27:59.640 --> 0:28:01.920
<v Speaker 3>the car perform in something that's going to sound good

0:28:01.960 --> 0:28:02.640
<v Speaker 3>on film.

0:28:02.760 --> 0:28:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Kenji Somino as the president of Gretty. He actually built

0:28:07.000 --> 0:28:10.800
<v Speaker 1>Brian's Supra and Fast and Furious one.

0:28:10.880 --> 0:28:15.400
<v Speaker 3>So a problem that I have with professional drivers, with

0:28:15.440 --> 0:28:18.800
<v Speaker 3>someone like Chris Forresburg, is you have to do a

0:28:18.800 --> 0:28:21.640
<v Speaker 3>little cajoling to get them at times to drive poorly

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:27.120
<v Speaker 3>because they want to do things perfect by the book

0:28:27.160 --> 0:28:29.960
<v Speaker 3>and they'll hit every shift and everything will be perfect,

0:28:29.960 --> 0:28:33.919
<v Speaker 3>and that I want that. That's great to have, but

0:28:33.960 --> 0:28:36.919
<v Speaker 3>I don't just want that. I want to miss the shift.

0:28:36.920 --> 0:28:39.640
<v Speaker 3>I want the clutch to grind. I want because the

0:28:39.640 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 3>people who are driving the cars in these movies are

0:28:42.440 --> 0:28:45.880
<v Speaker 3>being shot at, or they're being punched, or they're going

0:28:45.920 --> 0:28:49.440
<v Speaker 3>over a jump or things. So there's the more weird

0:28:49.520 --> 0:28:52.400
<v Speaker 3>character that I can get into a car, the better.

0:28:53.280 --> 0:28:56.160
<v Speaker 3>So I've recorded a lot of skids over the years,

0:28:56.240 --> 0:29:01.520
<v Speaker 3>different tires, different driving. But the Maverick that Han drives

0:29:01.520 --> 0:29:05.320
<v Speaker 3>in Fast five was probably one of maybe my second

0:29:05.320 --> 0:29:08.920
<v Speaker 3>favorite car ever because there was something wrong with it.

0:29:09.520 --> 0:29:10.680
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what was wrong.

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:15.320
<v Speaker 3>I think the axle mount was broken, and so when

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 3>you would start to drift with this thing or stop fast,

0:29:21.280 --> 0:29:22.280
<v Speaker 3>it would sound like this.

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:47.880
<v Speaker 2>You were talking about the shuttering when it was breaking.

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:53.120
<v Speaker 3>That chattering skid is fantastic. It's box office gold. I've

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.360
<v Speaker 3>never had a car that's made those sounds.

0:29:55.960 --> 0:29:58.720
<v Speaker 4>That's not a stock motor for the Maverick. What car

0:29:58.840 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 4>was that was that? The act Maverick that I don't

0:30:02.040 --> 0:30:04.400
<v Speaker 4>I don't know. I guess it was probably an LS three,

0:30:04.440 --> 0:30:07.080
<v Speaker 4>but maybe not because it's so beat up. But that's

0:30:07.120 --> 0:30:09.080
<v Speaker 4>a it's a vintage car.

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:12.520
<v Speaker 1>So there was a few models of the Americ and

0:30:12.560 --> 0:30:14.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it was like a two point six Leader

0:30:14.720 --> 0:30:19.840
<v Speaker 1>that was like the fastest GT model. So I think

0:30:19.840 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>that that's completely a modify. That's that's a swap. That

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:23.880
<v Speaker 1>has to be something else that's like a.

0:30:23.920 --> 0:30:26.200
<v Speaker 2>V six or it didn't sound like an LS to me.

0:30:26.640 --> 0:30:29.880
<v Speaker 1>It did not. What's a Ford? Most likely it's a

0:30:29.920 --> 0:30:30.440
<v Speaker 1>Ford motor.

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:32.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, right, I would hope.

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:35.080
<v Speaker 3>While we're talking about great entrance, I think we should

0:30:35.080 --> 0:30:36.480
<v Speaker 3>take a listen to the Fugazi.

0:30:36.720 --> 0:30:41.160
<v Speaker 1>Yes, faguzzi. Sorry, the fugazi means fake in it, right,

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:46.040
<v Speaker 1>fuguzzi fu gou fish plus a z. Fuguzi. I'm JSL

0:30:46.360 --> 0:30:47.160
<v Speaker 1>what's that?

0:30:47.240 --> 0:30:49.760
<v Speaker 3>Japanese is a second language.

0:30:50.680 --> 0:30:53.600
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So the figuzi is the name of this too

0:30:53.800 --> 0:30:56.680
<v Speaker 1>forty Z this nineteen seventy three dots in two forty

0:30:56.760 --> 0:31:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Z and I named it Figuzi because goofish is a

0:31:02.640 --> 0:31:05.680
<v Speaker 1>blowfish that if you do not prepare it properly, it

0:31:05.680 --> 0:31:09.360
<v Speaker 1>will kill you. So the you know the concept of

0:31:09.400 --> 0:31:12.160
<v Speaker 1>a race car being dangerous if you don't do the

0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>right prep it will kill you as well. And then

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:17.160
<v Speaker 1>I added the Z at the end, so feguzi right.

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.760
<v Speaker 1>And I tested it with a bunch of like six

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:23.720
<v Speaker 1>year olds, going, can you say faguzi? And they're like, Faguzi, Foguzi.

0:31:23.800 --> 0:31:26.960
<v Speaker 1>I go, well, okay, that's easy to say. So I

0:31:27.080 --> 0:31:29.520
<v Speaker 1>like to name all my cars, like to give it

0:31:29.560 --> 0:31:32.360
<v Speaker 1>like a character, you know, and a personality.

0:31:32.440 --> 0:31:32.640
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:31:32.680 --> 0:31:34.200
<v Speaker 3>One of the things that I need to do my

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:39.160
<v Speaker 3>job well relies on the kindness of strangers. And Sung

0:31:39.760 --> 0:31:44.280
<v Speaker 3>has been a very kind stranger lately by hooking me

0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:46.880
<v Speaker 3>up with people with fantastic cars. And I happen to

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:51.360
<v Speaker 3>have a need for an RB twenty six engine, which

0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:53.720
<v Speaker 3>I think is very hard to find but really has

0:31:53.720 --> 0:31:56.200
<v Speaker 3>a signature sound, and it just so happens that Sung

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:58.240
<v Speaker 3>has one of these cars.

0:31:58.720 --> 0:32:19.880
<v Speaker 1>So this is exterior prospect that sounds so nice, Like.

0:32:19.800 --> 0:32:21.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm grin and cheek to cheek. Those just sounds so

0:32:22.000 --> 0:32:22.440
<v Speaker 2>good to me.

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:26.480
<v Speaker 3>Wow, And that's how I like to record cars out

0:32:26.560 --> 0:32:32.280
<v Speaker 3>in the world, working with gravity, working with mistakes, working

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:35.240
<v Speaker 3>with grit in the road, and working with the character

0:32:35.240 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 3>of a driver. But another way to do it is

0:32:37.360 --> 0:32:39.720
<v Speaker 3>on a dino. If you've ever had your car smogged,

0:32:39.760 --> 0:32:42.200
<v Speaker 3>it's where you stick a car in a garage on

0:32:42.280 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 3>a big, gigantic roller. It's strapped down so it doesn't

0:32:45.080 --> 0:32:47.560
<v Speaker 3>go anywhere, and then you can just drive it up

0:32:47.600 --> 0:32:50.880
<v Speaker 3>to its top speed without having to deal with you know, and.

0:32:50.880 --> 0:32:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I'm assuming you said this is a roller dino, whereas

0:32:52.960 --> 0:32:55.200
<v Speaker 2>sometimes if you have a high performance vehicle, they'll just

0:32:55.400 --> 0:32:57.080
<v Speaker 2>you take off the wheels and you strap it straight

0:32:57.120 --> 0:32:57.960
<v Speaker 2>to the hub of the car.

0:32:58.280 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 3>Right, this is a roller dino. Okay, this is a

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:03.800
<v Speaker 3>tailpipe sitting by the dino, but it's not going anywhere.

0:33:03.840 --> 0:33:07.680
<v Speaker 3>And you will hear the whine of the barrel the

0:33:08.080 --> 0:33:10.920
<v Speaker 3>drum at the end of this dynamometer run.

0:33:34.800 --> 0:33:35.400
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I hear that.

0:33:35.960 --> 0:33:37.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm with you. I like it on the street, and.

0:33:38.200 --> 0:33:41.120
<v Speaker 3>I'm really excited to get this whole record together because

0:33:41.120 --> 0:33:45.360
<v Speaker 3>we've got MIC's on the turbos in the engine, and

0:33:45.400 --> 0:33:48.160
<v Speaker 3>it'll be fun to hear how those sound. I haven't

0:33:48.200 --> 0:33:51.360
<v Speaker 3>mastered it all yet, but I can already tell from

0:33:51.400 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 3>this that it's going to be a really nice set.

0:33:53.280 --> 0:33:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Have you recorded much evs?

0:33:56.600 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 1>Very little? Yeah, we have.

0:33:58.840 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 3>I didn't record it, but we have the EV one

0:34:02.520 --> 0:34:04.680
<v Speaker 3>in the library and for many years that. I think

0:34:04.680 --> 0:34:07.880
<v Speaker 3>that was the first electric vehicle that's used a lot,

0:34:08.000 --> 0:34:11.839
<v Speaker 3>But from what I can understand, the variation in them

0:34:11.960 --> 0:34:15.520
<v Speaker 3>is not much. They all sound very similar. However, if

0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:18.319
<v Speaker 3>you know anybody who does that, whatever the racing is,

0:34:18.440 --> 0:34:21.600
<v Speaker 3>formula e, formula e, I need to meet those people,

0:34:21.600 --> 0:34:22.840
<v Speaker 3>because those sound different.

0:34:22.920 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>They sound pretty awesome.

0:34:24.200 --> 0:34:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like most manufacturers now are trying to

0:34:27.040 --> 0:34:29.080
<v Speaker 2>have their unique EV sound.

0:34:29.280 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 3>I worked with Nissan on their VSP, their vehicle sound

0:34:32.719 --> 0:34:35.319
<v Speaker 3>for pedestrians for belief when they came out with that.

0:34:35.520 --> 0:34:38.120
<v Speaker 3>Oh really, they hired us for a little while to

0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:41.799
<v Speaker 3>come up with a sound for driving, for backing up.

0:34:41.920 --> 0:34:43.280
<v Speaker 2>So how did you create that sound?

0:34:43.719 --> 0:34:46.360
<v Speaker 3>That was really all sound design. I really like the

0:34:46.360 --> 0:34:48.960
<v Speaker 3>backup beeps they were made out of. They're made from

0:34:49.000 --> 0:34:51.759
<v Speaker 3>like a woodfinch, I think, so instead of just being

0:34:51.760 --> 0:34:54.480
<v Speaker 3>this really annoying sound, it was more bird oriented.

0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Huh so that was you.

0:34:56.360 --> 0:35:00.600
<v Speaker 3>It was something that I worked on for Nissan USA.

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:01.720
<v Speaker 1>That is so cool.

0:35:01.840 --> 0:35:03.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's less cool because it came down to a

0:35:03.960 --> 0:35:07.799
<v Speaker 3>bake off between what the Nissan USA sound was for

0:35:07.840 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 3>the Leaf and what the Nissan Japanese sound was. And

0:35:12.120 --> 0:35:14.520
<v Speaker 3>let me let me make you guess which one they

0:35:14.520 --> 0:35:15.760
<v Speaker 3>went with Japan.

0:35:16.040 --> 0:35:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so now I hear that and I'm like, hmmm,

0:35:18.960 --> 0:35:21.160
<v Speaker 1>could have been a wood finch. But that's pretty awesome.

0:35:21.160 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>They reached out to you.

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:24.840
<v Speaker 3>They were They were super awesome. I really I like

0:35:24.960 --> 0:35:25.840
<v Speaker 3>that company.

0:35:26.239 --> 0:35:27.080
<v Speaker 1>That's pretty cool.

0:35:27.719 --> 0:35:31.239
<v Speaker 3>And the disappointing thing about it is is that the

0:35:31.280 --> 0:35:38.480
<v Speaker 3>industry wants there to be one sound so anyone who's

0:35:38.520 --> 0:35:43.800
<v Speaker 3>hard of hearing knows immediately okay, that's an electric vehicle.

0:35:44.880 --> 0:35:45.759
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think about that.

0:35:45.920 --> 0:35:49.360
<v Speaker 4>Who wants this industry standards?

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 3>So whatever, you know, governing body controls these things. It's

0:35:55.120 --> 0:35:57.600
<v Speaker 3>much better to have one to rule them all. But

0:35:58.520 --> 0:36:01.319
<v Speaker 3>come on, we're humans. The branding things should have.

0:36:01.960 --> 0:36:05.200
<v Speaker 2>Not all cars sound the same, So exactly would TV

0:36:05.320 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 2>sound the same? Right?

0:36:06.520 --> 0:36:09.040
<v Speaker 3>Why don't you put a full exterior speaker array and

0:36:09.200 --> 0:36:11.359
<v Speaker 3>you can make your EV sound like whatever you want

0:36:11.680 --> 0:36:13.960
<v Speaker 3>you can make it sound like a Camaro.

0:36:14.040 --> 0:36:16.279
<v Speaker 2>You can make it so Tesla honking is like uh

0:36:17.719 --> 0:36:19.000
<v Speaker 2>parting noises or something like that.

0:36:20.920 --> 0:36:24.799
<v Speaker 3>Change the seems like it's a great future there.

0:36:24.840 --> 0:36:26.840
<v Speaker 1>You can make it sound like an RX seven that

0:36:27.040 --> 0:36:30.279
<v Speaker 1>sad day. But yeah, it's interesting because it sounds like.

0:36:30.760 --> 0:36:35.239
<v Speaker 1>You love imperfection in the sounds of the cars because

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:38.399
<v Speaker 1>then it allows you to create a character and tell

0:36:38.440 --> 0:36:41.120
<v Speaker 1>the story and then break it up and match the

0:36:41.920 --> 0:36:44.920
<v Speaker 1>actor or the character that's playing, you know, or driving that.

0:36:45.000 --> 0:36:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Car in life. Though, I feel like people love imperfection,

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:52.080
<v Speaker 2>you know, even like older cars, like I'll use I'm

0:36:52.120 --> 0:36:54.799
<v Speaker 2>using another Corvette example, We'll use anything like there'll be

0:36:55.480 --> 0:36:59.200
<v Speaker 2>a particular year that has the incorrect stitching or maybe

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 2>the leather was notorious for tearing somewhere in particular, and

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:05.279
<v Speaker 2>then at the time people like, oh, that's the one

0:37:05.320 --> 0:37:08.480
<v Speaker 2>that you know had a defect of some sort. Then

0:37:08.520 --> 0:37:10.759
<v Speaker 2>fifty years go by and they're like, wow, that's the

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:15.320
<v Speaker 2>one that had that famous defect. And people love having

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:18.560
<v Speaker 2>that unique character on something. And same with acting, you

0:37:18.600 --> 0:37:21.120
<v Speaker 2>know the take where it didn't go perfectly, where you

0:37:21.160 --> 0:37:23.520
<v Speaker 2>had that moment where something happened where you can improv

0:37:23.920 --> 0:37:26.279
<v Speaker 2>It's almost like a blessing because you have something that

0:37:26.320 --> 0:37:30.720
<v Speaker 2>was unintended that ended up creating this unique not character

0:37:30.719 --> 0:37:33.400
<v Speaker 2>as in a person, but like a piece of something

0:37:33.480 --> 0:37:36.840
<v Speaker 2>that wasn't intended that keeps it raw and organic.

0:37:37.080 --> 0:37:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Pete, I want to ask this question earlier. You said,

0:37:40.239 --> 0:37:42.880
<v Speaker 1>you know, to be successful, you have to know who

0:37:42.960 --> 0:37:47.560
<v Speaker 1>you are. Right and now, as a older man that

0:37:47.760 --> 0:37:51.880
<v Speaker 1>has traveled this road a little longer than the younger folks,

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:54.680
<v Speaker 1>if you were to give your younger self advice on

0:37:55.560 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 1>some shortcuts to find that, how did you discover or

0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:02.840
<v Speaker 1>how did you find who you are during your journey

0:38:02.880 --> 0:38:04.920
<v Speaker 1>of your life? And what advice would you give to

0:38:04.960 --> 0:38:08.480
<v Speaker 1>your younger self. Boy, that's a tough question.

0:38:08.600 --> 0:38:14.480
<v Speaker 3>It's a really tough question because I feel successful and

0:38:14.520 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 3>I feel blessed, and you know, I feel like most

0:38:20.680 --> 0:38:24.840
<v Speaker 3>of the reason that that happened was not really because

0:38:24.840 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 3>of something that I fought for or did. It's because

0:38:28.440 --> 0:38:30.680
<v Speaker 3>I had the greatest parents in the world. I mean,

0:38:30.719 --> 0:38:33.520
<v Speaker 3>I just I grew up in a home filled with

0:38:33.600 --> 0:38:37.719
<v Speaker 3>love and was told to, you know, surround yourself with

0:38:37.760 --> 0:38:41.080
<v Speaker 3>the best people possible, and you can do anything that

0:38:41.120 --> 0:38:42.120
<v Speaker 3>you want.

0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:43.840
<v Speaker 1>And you know, I don't.

0:38:43.719 --> 0:38:47.280
<v Speaker 3>Care what you are, just go and be you. That's

0:38:47.960 --> 0:38:51.000
<v Speaker 3>I think that's the best way. You know, the best

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:53.880
<v Speaker 3>roads to success are often things that you have no

0:38:54.000 --> 0:38:58.600
<v Speaker 3>control over. You might be born, you know, unbelievably beautiful

0:38:58.880 --> 0:39:03.040
<v Speaker 3>and attractive, and it just opens all these doors for you. Yeah,

0:39:03.080 --> 0:39:05.480
<v Speaker 3>so that's a not useful answer.

0:39:07.280 --> 0:39:09.000
<v Speaker 2>Be born beautiful and attractive and.

0:39:09.000 --> 0:39:09.720
<v Speaker 1>Have great parents.

0:39:09.800 --> 0:39:14.239
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, great parents, great parents and trumps all that stuff. Sure,

0:39:14.320 --> 0:39:17.400
<v Speaker 3>sure you know. I've got two kids, one, you know,

0:39:17.520 --> 0:39:22.759
<v Speaker 3>nineteen and eighteen, and the I feel like the main

0:39:22.800 --> 0:39:26.960
<v Speaker 3>advice I give them is just to listen, you know,

0:39:27.560 --> 0:39:30.600
<v Speaker 3>listen to your heart or just know yourself, because everything

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<v Speaker 3>falls into place if you can keep from lying to yourself,

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<v Speaker 3>which is so easy to do, or or you know,

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<v Speaker 3>let somebody else's goal be your goal, or look at

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<v Speaker 3>somebody else where. Envy might be driving you, but I

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<v Speaker 3>just try to tell them to just really take a

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<v Speaker 3>take a second to think about what it is you

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<v Speaker 3>enjoy doing who you know, what process makes you feel

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<v Speaker 3>more like yourself, and pursue that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing I noticed about you because I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when I meet people that are success fall that our

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<v Speaker 1>joy to be around and a joy to work with

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<v Speaker 1>and collaborate with, and I'm looking for traits to take

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<v Speaker 1>from them and learn from them. Right, And one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I noticed about you over the years since we've met,

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<v Speaker 1>which is like sixteen years ago now right, it's almost

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<v Speaker 1>two decades. Think about that, is that every time I

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<v Speaker 1>meet you where I see you, it's like you just

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<v Speaker 1>started this job, Like you're so excited about it, like

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<v Speaker 1>the passion has never dwinduled. Pete, Like, I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if you like noticed that about yourself, but it's obvious

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<v Speaker 1>that you love what you do and it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>kid in a candy store and it's infectious it is

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<v Speaker 1>and you and you know, for the people listening, because

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think if I were to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>my younger self and go, like, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>are what are the secrets to making it? And it's

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<v Speaker 1>almost it's simple, but they're hard to do, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like the one thing the reason I ask

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<v Speaker 1>you this question. I asked you that question, was you know,

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<v Speaker 1>to be able to share, like, you know, the secrets

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<v Speaker 1>of your success. And it's something that is very very

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<v Speaker 1>like prominent with you is that you love what you do,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and it's very obvious and hearing your origin

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<v Speaker 1>story of you've loved it since you discovered it in

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<v Speaker 1>film school, you know, at USC. So it really is

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<v Speaker 1>like a privilege to be around your Pete very kind,

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<v Speaker 1>it is so and thus that's why you're working on

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<v Speaker 1>some of the biggest movies in Hollywood. So it all correlates.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>That was the best time I've had in radio in

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<v Speaker 3>a long time. Thanks time.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Thank you Peter Brown for coming to talk with

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<v Speaker 1>us and you know, sharing your story. It was a

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<v Speaker 1>real privilege and treat to sit down with you and

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<v Speaker 1>learn a lot about you.

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<v Speaker 3>I had a great time. Thank you so much for

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<v Speaker 3>bringing me in here.