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Speaker 1: No one tells that story the right way. Josh Hipel

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Speaker 1: has he has he steadied and righted the ship and

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Speaker 1: I was in Hot Springs, Arkansas last weekend for the

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Speaker 1: Broyles Award ceremony, which goes to the top assistant coach

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Speaker 1: in the country every year, and Tim Banks was there,

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Speaker 1: so you hear that and you say, okay, a Tennessee

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Speaker 1: coordinator was a Broyse Award finalist. That's not the wildest

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Speaker 1: headline in the world. Well, that's not the way you

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Speaker 1: should write the headline. The way you should write the

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Speaker 1: headline was Josh Heipel's defensive coordinator was a finalist for

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Speaker 1: the Broyles Award. That's a big deal. That's really transformation.

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Speaker 1: That's when transformational things are starting to happen with your program,

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Speaker 1: when the side of the ball that you don't specialize

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Speaker 1: do specialize in. I am watching USC very closely to

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Speaker 1: see if the same thing happens out there. Someone asked

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Speaker 1: LSU is in here. LSU is the number ten program

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Speaker 1: twenty nine wins. The last three years they had a

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Speaker 1: LSU in general realized we are bad defensively. They had

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Speaker 1: probably the worst defensive staff in the SEC. That's the

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Speaker 1: bad news. The good news is they rectified it in

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Speaker 1: a big way. They spared no expense. They just completely

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Speaker 1: overhauled their defensive staff. They made the right moves. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: they didn't do it quickly enough, and they wasted Jaden

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Speaker 1: think we just went twelve deep, Collins. So let's throw

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Speaker 1: probably missed the entire explainer. But here we are Georgia,

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Speaker 1: look different this time next year. And in the meantime,

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Speaker 1: around here. Let's continue. I led the show off, let

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Speaker 1: me get attle, drink of water here. I led the

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Speaker 1: ridiculousness in the scheduling landscape this year. I'm about to

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Speaker 1: This It doesn't make me mad, but this aggravates me. Okay, Colin,

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Speaker 1: here's a good endpoint for you. I was looking at

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Speaker 1: the SEC schedules this year. It's so warped. I don't

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Speaker 1: know how we get to this point. I'm a believer.

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Speaker 1: Like when I'm the college football commissioner, I don't even

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Speaker 1: want conferences announcing the schedule for that year until March.

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Speaker 1: I would wait until spring to do it. But I'm

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Speaker 1: not elected yet. So in the meantime, we already know,

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Speaker 1: for instance, the SEC schedule this year. I'm gonna do you.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna do a little favor right here. We have

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Speaker 1: our own internal metrics, the way we determine strength of schedule.

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Speaker 1: I kind of went over this last show. If you

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Speaker 1: It'll make a lot more sense. But if you don't

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Speaker 1: have time to do that, just know I spelled out

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Speaker 1: last show. Kind of our formula a basic formula for

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Speaker 1: determining strength of opponents and whatnot. So as we see it, right,

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Speaker 1: now entering spring. Of course, this is subject to change.

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Speaker 1: Some of the toughest schedules in the SEC are Oklahoma.

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Speaker 1: We got Oklahoma, Florida, Arkansas, Alabama. Like those are the

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Speaker 1: four toughest schedules by formula in the conference this year.

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Speaker 1: To give you an idea, like if I were to

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Speaker 1: go down some losers, some teams that lost when it

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Speaker 1: comes to the schedule maker in the SEC, Florida is

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Speaker 1: certainly one of them. They got the number two toughest

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Speaker 1: schedule based on our system. But Miami and Florida State

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Speaker 1: are total wildcards here. So you're listening to this and saying, well,

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Speaker 1: do with anything? They're not, But Florida plays both of them,

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Speaker 1: so we would quantify those as either Tier one or

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Speaker 1: Tier two opponents. But as you well know, Florida State

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Speaker 1: could be hot garbage this year or win eleven games.

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Speaker 1: What caliber of opponent are they going to be? They're

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Speaker 1: all the way down here at the end of the

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Speaker 1: season too, so we don't know. So that's one wild

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Speaker 1: card baked into Florida's schedule. The other one is they

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Speaker 1: play at Miami in Week four. No. One knows what

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Speaker 1: Miami's gonna be. So those are two wild cards. Outside

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Speaker 1: in a row that are away from home. They go

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Speaker 1: to Jacksonville, then they go to Lexington, then they go

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Speaker 1: And wait, do you see how this compares to some

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Speaker 1: of the lighter schedules in the conference. Oklahoma I think

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Speaker 1: I would just look at Oklahoma schedule and I would

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Speaker 1: say this is brutality. They have nine games against Tier

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Speaker 1: one or Tier two opponents as we would define them.

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Speaker 1: That's the most in college football. No one has a

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Speaker 1: tougher schedule than Oklahoma to me this year in college football. Now,

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Speaker 1: they've got three very soft games. So kent State, they

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Speaker 1: have those on there. Someone's gonna pick and choose and

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Speaker 1: decide to make fun of that. Yeah, you could throw

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Speaker 1: I care. They've got Michigan out of conference. They play

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Speaker 1: this stretch where they have Texas and South Carolina and

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Speaker 1: they'd still be tough. They end the season. There's just

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Speaker 1: South Carolina, Ole Miss at Tennessee, at Alabama, Missouri, LSU boom.

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Speaker 1: It's just body blow after body blow after body blow.

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Speaker 1: Alabama doesn't have an easy schedule this year, and they've

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Speaker 1: are wild cards. They play at Florida State to start

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Speaker 1: the season. It's not a neutral site game. They play

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Speaker 1: at Florida State. Florida State, I think debuting the brand

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Speaker 1: point spread, probably probably a solid quarter of a point there,

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Speaker 1: the old the old doke bump. But they also play

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Speaker 1: Wisconsin at home. So a very legitimate out of conference

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Speaker 1: schedule for Alabama. They play three games versus Tier one teams,

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Speaker 1: this year. There is no spot on Alabama's schedule where

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Speaker 1: they have a big buy advantage or you know, a

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Speaker 1: They go to Missouri in what week six or seven,

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Speaker 1: There's such a vast canyon between the Floridas and Oklahoma's

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Speaker 1: LSU and Georgia, yet they're like nine ten to eleven.

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Speaker 1: Tennessee to me, has the most workable schedule of any

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Speaker 1: four hardest games Tennessee plays. They will have a scheduling advantage.

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Speaker 1: So if anyone wants to lay a little early money

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Speaker 1: value baked in Tennessee, the last thing you saw of

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Speaker 1: everyone will be down on Tennessee. Buddy. That is a

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Speaker 1: Miss has got one again. Ole Miss has got a

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Speaker 1: very workable schedule. They leave home only one time. Ole

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Speaker 1: Miss leaves home once before October eighteenth, and it's to

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Speaker 1: go to Kentucky. They got Georgia State and then the

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Speaker 1: trip to Kentucky. Then they got Arkansas, Tulane, LSU, somehow,

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Speaker 1: when they do have to leave home again, it's to

639
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: go to Athens, Georgia. But in the meantime, they go

640
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:27,480
Speaker 1: half the season without a road trip outside of one

641
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:31,759
Speaker 1: to Kentucky. Now, don't take that is me dismissing Kentucky

642
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:34,080
Speaker 1: because I remember what happened last year when they came

643
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:36,960
Speaker 1: to the Grove. I understand what could happen there. But

644
00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:39,640
Speaker 1: scheduling wise, how could you set it up any better

645
00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:42,759
Speaker 1: if you were laying Kiffin. They've got a bye on

646
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: November twenty second, you notice Colin's got the schedule up.

647
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: If you're watching on YouTube, you see down here it's

648
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,160
Speaker 1: got Florida and then it's got at Mississippi State. Do

649
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 1: you notice one of those is eleven fifteen and the

650
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: next one is eleven twenty nine. Why is that gap there, Well,

651
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 1: it's there because there's a bye week there. It's very

652
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:05,160
Speaker 1: strange because their bye week is the second to last

653
00:35:05,239 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: week of the season, which may mean nothing if they

654
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:12,839
Speaker 1: don't go to Atlanta. However, if they do go to Atlanta,

655
00:35:13,480 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: think about what kind of advantage that potentially gives Ole

656
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 1: Miss against a team like Georgia that may be playing

657
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: their fifth or sixth game in a row. If you

658
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: think that doesn't matter, this past year, it happened. It

659
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,919
Speaker 1: happened in the Big Ten. Oregon had a really really

660
00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,919
Speaker 1: late season bye week and they made the conference title game,

661
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 1: and you're just fresher. It matters. There's no way to

662
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 1: absolutely guard against that, but it matters. Texas. I hate

663
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:43,920
Speaker 1: to be the bearer of bad news. Texas has got

664
00:35:43,960 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 1: a very workable schedule this year. The schedule makers in

665
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:51,719
Speaker 1: the SEC have shafted Oklahoma as it relates to Texas.

666
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 1: Like the strength of schedule dynamic and disparity between one

667
00:35:55,560 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: versus the other has been a joke for the first

668
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: two years that they've been in the league. There are

669
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,280
Speaker 1: four SEC teams that we have as Tier four or lower.

670
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:08,960
Speaker 1: Texas plays all of them. This year. They go to

671
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: Ohio State in Week one. That's actually what boosts the

672
00:36:12,040 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: strength of schedule and makes it look tougher than it is.

673
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 1: And I'm not knocking a trip to Ohio State. That's

674
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: a really big deal. But you don't have to beat

675
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: Ohio State to win this conference. They've got the easiest

676
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:27,120
Speaker 1: conference schedule in this league. They go to Florida, they

677
00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: go to Georgia. It's not easy. I said, it's the

678
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: easyest in the SEC. And you compare that to what

679
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:38,000
Speaker 1: Oklahoma's gotta play or what Florida's got to play. You

680
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 1: look at what ol Miss is dealing with compared to

681
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:43,880
Speaker 1: what Bama's dealing with. It's like different worlds. And somehow

682
00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 1: these are all league schedules, these are all conference schedules.

683
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:49,400
Speaker 1: And sure enough, we'll get to the end of the

684
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 1: year and someone out there will be yelling, well, you

685
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,320
Speaker 1: are what your record says you are. Just win your games,

686
00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,080
Speaker 1: you know, Yeah, I do know. They're all trying to

687
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 1: win their games. Some of them are just having a

688
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: lot tougher time doing it than the others. And it's

689
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: because the league schedule in the SEC makes no sense whatsoever.

690
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,439
Speaker 1: Let's move along. I'm going to go as far away

691
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,480
Speaker 1: from the SEC as I can here because I need

692
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: to talk about something very important and very pressing. Eric

693
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: from Long Beach, California hit me and said, all you

694
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 1: do is trash usc which, as we all know, is

695
00:37:20,280 --> 00:37:23,960
Speaker 1: completely ridiculous. But he continues, We're rolling on the recruiting

696
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 1: trail and the structure of our program looks much better

697
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: than it did. What do you mean much better than

698
00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: it did? Eric? Are you suggesting that USC football has

699
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: been down? You sound like a trash in USC anyway?

700
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,560
Speaker 1: I continue, he said, I'm sure you'll scoff at it,

701
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 1: but I think USC is heading towards big things moving forward.

702
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:45,879
Speaker 1: I'll wait to hear your dumb retort Hate State. Eric

703
00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,479
Speaker 1: checking in from hate State, I have a baked in

704
00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 1: internal seismograph about myself. I'm sure you think the same way.

705
00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:56,160
Speaker 1: It's not weird at all. There's this thing that's baked

706
00:37:56,160 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: into us with college football at least, and it's the

707
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 1: thing where you notice there's a little activity over here,

708
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:07,360
Speaker 1: and it's like the size of a graph. It starts peaking,

709
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:10,520
Speaker 1: you know, like a geologist would look for earthquakes. It

710
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,800
Speaker 1: just starts peaking a little bit. And it's happening internally

711
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,120
Speaker 1: with me when it comes to USC right now. So

712
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,600
Speaker 1: Eric is a hater, but he's not wrong. He's wrong

713
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:23,360
Speaker 1: about everything characterizing me, but he's not wrong that some

714
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,400
Speaker 1: stuff's happening at USC. You may or may not be aware, folks,

715
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: that USC's got the number one recruiting class in the

716
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:34,359
Speaker 1: country for twenty twenty six. It save your breath. I

717
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 1: know how it goes. In fact, it really wouldn't matter

718
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 1: who we were talking about there. If I tell you

719
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,319
Speaker 1: someone's got an impressive looking class for twenty twenty six,

720
00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 1: there is going to be a chorus. There is going

721
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 1: to be a rainstorm of takes, and they all sound

722
00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:53,240
Speaker 1: like this. It won't last. They'll all decommit. Okay, okay,

723
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: you know how we handle that game on here. But

724
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna mess with how we handle it tonight.

725
00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,440
Speaker 1: I just want to tell you I think it's a

726
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:04,480
Speaker 1: little bit differ in at USC. My own internal seismograph

727
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,320
Speaker 1: is peaking a little bit, so there's some activity happening

728
00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:12,120
Speaker 1: out here with USC. I want to say this now.

729
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: I told Jesse and Colin it is what February twenty third.

730
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 1: I want to choose tonight, February twenty third, to tell

731
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: you that no one cares about USC right now us.

732
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: He's an afterthought nationally. No one's talking about him. So

733
00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,920
Speaker 1: I want to talk about him for a second because

734
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: I really really believe that this is the moment, as

735
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,080
Speaker 1: crazy as it sounds, because their record has gotten worse

736
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 1: the last three years. The energy externally around. The program's

737
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,600
Speaker 1: gotten worse the last three years. This moment right here

738
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,239
Speaker 1: is where I actually want to buy USC. I feel

739
00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: better about the future of that program right now, coming

740
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: off six and six year than I have in a

741
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,759
Speaker 1: long time. It's real. It's not going to be talked

742
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: about nationally for a while, but there's some stuff happening

743
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:04,640
Speaker 1: in that program that's real. It's tangible. It's not smoking mirrors,

744
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,640
Speaker 1: it's not acting. It's not performative, it's not winning a

745
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,800
Speaker 1: Spring National championship or anything like that. The right people

746
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,319
Speaker 1: are in the building. That's really what matters. That's what

747
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,360
Speaker 1: it comes down to. With everyone who wins in the sport,

748
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,959
Speaker 1: the right people are in the building. What I feel

749
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:23,040
Speaker 1: about Lincoln Riley is that Lincoln Riley is still the

750
00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: real deal. Lincoln Riley didn't forget about this game. Lincoln

751
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,840
Speaker 1: Riley didn't forget how to win. I think what happened

752
00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: is Lincoln Riley had a couple of things happened to

753
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 1: him at USC. One was his fault. One wasn't he

754
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:41,480
Speaker 1: handcuffed himself to a losing defensive staff. To his credit,

755
00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: he rectified that a couple of years in and last

756
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 1: year started to yield results. I think this year and

757
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: in years to come, it'll really start to yield results.

758
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,560
Speaker 1: And he defined that he wanted to change entirely the

759
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 1: identity of the program. Perfect world, you do that the

760
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,080
Speaker 1: moment you step on campus and day one when you

761
00:40:58,120 --> 00:41:00,440
Speaker 1: take the job. That's not the way it happened. So

762
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 1: that's his fault. To his credit, he took ownership. And

763
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,400
Speaker 1: then they started to press the right buttons. I think

764
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,200
Speaker 1: on that front last year and they're still doing that.

765
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 1: And then the second thing that was a little out

766
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: of his control is I think administratively he was handcuffed.

767
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 1: I don't think he ever stepped to a podium and

768
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: said that, but I'll say it. I don't think he's

769
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: gotten everything that he's needed out there. I think sometimes

770
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:25,920
Speaker 1: you find yourself wearing three or four hats, whereas at

771
00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:29,120
Speaker 1: places like Ohio State or places like Georgia, they're just

772
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:31,520
Speaker 1: well oiled machines and you can just take it for

773
00:41:31,560 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: granted that you've got someone in this seat to do

774
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: this and someone in that seat to do that. That

775
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 1: hadn't been the case at USC the program, So think

776
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 1: about college football. College football kind of changed overnight. What

777
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:49,880
Speaker 1: the portal did what Nil did to this sport, changed

778
00:41:49,920 --> 00:41:54,640
Speaker 1: it overnight. But not every program adjusted overnight. And it's

779
00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:57,880
Speaker 1: not just up to you, the head coach. Your administration

780
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:00,319
Speaker 1: has to be on board and in some place, he says,

781
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: they got it boom, and they were immediately at the forefront,

782
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: but not everyone adjusted at the same speed. And USC

783
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: just sucked at the speed with which they adjusted to

784
00:42:10,719 --> 00:42:13,680
Speaker 1: the changing landscape of college football to the point where

785
00:42:13,680 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 1: only just now are they getting the buy in administratively

786
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:22,240
Speaker 1: and the sign off administratively to get the right people

787
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: in the building. But make no mistake, they've got the

788
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 1: right people in the building now. I don't know that

789
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,520
Speaker 1: they're done with that overhaul, but they've got the right

790
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: people walking in the building now, so everyone will scoff.

791
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: Colin Rare request, could you put the question back up

792
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: for a second that Eric asked he used a word there.

793
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 1: Eric said, they're doing big things, but he was sure,

794
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,440
Speaker 1: I'll scoff at it. I'm not scoffing at it. I

795
00:42:49,480 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 1: one hundred percent agree with you, as hateful as you were, Eric,

796
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:55,800
Speaker 1: I one hundred percent agree with you. I'm not scoffing

797
00:42:55,840 --> 00:42:58,960
Speaker 1: at it. But when we put this individual clip out

798
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: on the YouTube channel. Most people will scaff at it.

799
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:03,720
Speaker 1: So I want everyone to take note, especially my friends

800
00:43:03,719 --> 00:43:06,480
Speaker 1: on the parastyle over there, they will still scoff at it.

801
00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: You have not earned benefit of the doubt. USC has

802
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,720
Speaker 1: not earned benefit of the doubt in the college football

803
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: public's mind. So you can look at it right now

804
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: and say, boy, look at the new administrative hires we've made.

805
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: There is a palpable energy around this program. I've never

806
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 1: been more sure since Lincoln Riley's been here that we're

807
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 1: moving in the right direction. And I share that sentiment

808
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,480
Speaker 1: with you. By the way, just understand, not that this

809
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: should matter, but it will not be reflected nationally because

810
00:43:34,680 --> 00:43:36,880
Speaker 1: USC has not earned benefit of the doubt in anyone's

811
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: mind yetn't won anything of note since Lincoln Riley's been there.

812
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 1: So no one's gonna look and say, oh, yeah, all right,

813
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,600
Speaker 1: he's done it before, he'll do it again there. He

814
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,960
Speaker 1: hadn't done it before. He hadn't done it there yet.

815
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,200
Speaker 1: You hadn't done it there yet. So no one thinks

816
00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,600
Speaker 1: that you're Oregon right now. No one thinks you could

817
00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: tot Ohio State's jock right now because you haven't been

818
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:59,720
Speaker 1: able to. So I do believe that some very special

819
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: things were around the corner at USC. They just came

820
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,919
Speaker 1: off a year where they barely made a bowl game.

821
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: I believe in the future of the program more than

822
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: I did this time of year ago. Even not everyone

823
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:12,399
Speaker 1: will think that way. So there will be scoffers. I'm

824
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:14,320
Speaker 1: just not one of them. I'm in with you, guys.

825
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,279
Speaker 1: I'm in I believe in it. So I wanted Eric

826
00:44:17,360 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: to know that from me to him personally. They're watching

827
00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 1: us in Wa Tumpka, Alabama, or as we call that,

828
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles of the Yellowhammer State Burbank, California is

829
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:32,239
Speaker 1: tuned in. Hubert Heights, Ohio is tuned in. Let's continue

830
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 1: to move merrily along. What is Garrett talking about the

831
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: live chat here? Terrible format? So you talking about our format? Well, Garrett,

832
00:44:40,920 --> 00:44:42,920
Speaker 1: you're choosing to watch the show, my friend. I appreciate

833
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: you doing it, but if the format is not to

834
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:49,120
Speaker 1: your liking, the exit door is one click away, I

835
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 1: guess always talking about the CFP, Garrett, I apologize wholeheartedly.

836
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,759
Speaker 1: I love you, you love everything about this show. Yeah, the

837
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: playoff can take a height. In fact, we're going to

838
00:44:59,400 --> 00:45:02,239
Speaker 1: talk about something along those lines in a little while.

839
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 1: So there we go. I have an admission. I don't

840
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,319
Speaker 1: necessarily like what we're about to do. I am on

841
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:18,200
Speaker 1: record of saying this, but Jeff, Jeff hit me from Augusta,

842
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: and Jeff said, I will hold you to these. But

843
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,920
Speaker 1: your early predictions last year gave me some good insight

844
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:27,479
Speaker 1: on the season. Do you have some early conference title predictions? Jeff?

845
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 1: It is February twenty third, there is snow on the

846
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: ground outside our studio, and we're in Nashville, not Yellowknife,

847
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 1: not Calgary, Alberta, Canada. And you want conference championship predictions

848
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 1: for me, Well, let me tell you something, Jeff, I'd

849
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 1: be happy to. So this is a warning because I

850
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 1: always told you i'd give you a warning if I

851
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:53,520
Speaker 1: was ever going to clickbait you. I am not clickbait

852
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 1: pay except this right here is pure foolishness to give

853
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,640
Speaker 1: conference championship picks before springball. It's pure foolishness. I know

854
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,600
Speaker 1: it is. You know it is, Colin when he makes

855
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: the thumbnail for the segment later, he knows it is.

856
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:09,640
Speaker 1: I think Jesse knows it is. But you know what,

857
00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: will do it anyway? But just be warned. I can

858
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: and will pivot off of these things at a moment's notice.

859
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 1: ACC Championship prediction. I can't even say it without laughing.

860
00:46:20,200 --> 00:46:24,200
Speaker 1: ACC Championship prediction. You cannot hold me too legally. In February,

861
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,120
Speaker 1: gimme Clemson over Georgia Tech. I got Georgia Tech going

862
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:31,359
Speaker 1: to the ACC Championship game. Why because it's risk free.

863
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 1: No one's gonna hold me to this. This has got

864
00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,880
Speaker 1: to be Clemson's year. It's an all in year for them.

865
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: It's been very direct about how I feel about the

866
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: immediate and then long term future of Clemson football. Got

867
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:45,200
Speaker 1: no problem buying into the immediate future. I got Clemson

868
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,840
Speaker 1: winning the ACC this year. But I think Georgia Tech's

869
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 1: got a good shot to meet them in Charlotte. I

870
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: think Miami's got a decent shot to do that. Louisville's

871
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,680
Speaker 1: always a player. There have no clue what to expect

872
00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,839
Speaker 1: from Florida State. But Georgia Tech's no joke like Georgia Tech.

873
00:46:59,840 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 1: Had they beaten Georgia in that multiple overtime game, I

874
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:05,879
Speaker 1: think a lot more people would be serious about them,

875
00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,920
Speaker 1: and in reality, it would have made no difference but

876
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 1: I think a lot more people would be talking about them.

877
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: I like Georgia Tech a significant amount this upcoming year,

878
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: like I think they could make some serious headway, And

879
00:47:20,440 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 1: by that I mean I think they could go to

880
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:25,960
Speaker 1: the conference title game. What about the SEC? I've got

881
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: no Alabama and no Georgia in Atlanta. I would take

882
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:31,839
Speaker 1: LSU to win the SEC if I had to pick

883
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 1: right now over Texas. I trust him at quarterback. They've

884
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:37,759
Speaker 1: got the fifth best odds to win the conference. As

885
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 1: you you heard me say this already, So this is

886
00:47:41,239 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: not hypocrisy. I've bet them already on FanDuel, and the

887
00:47:45,640 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: odds reflect that. Did I just suggest to you that

888
00:47:49,440 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 1: I moved the number? Yes? I did. Can I prove it? No?

889
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: Is it true? Probably not? But you can't prove that

890
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,840
Speaker 1: it's not true. So LSU over Texas would be my

891
00:48:02,920 --> 00:48:05,920
Speaker 1: pick right now. I trust LSU's portal moves. Now, this

892
00:48:05,960 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 1: is where I've just got to be right or this

893
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:10,439
Speaker 1: could crash and burn fantastically. I better be right about

894
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: their portal moves. I think I am their defensive staff

895
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 1: year one to year two. Love the impact down there.

896
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:19,800
Speaker 1: A quarterback situation in an ocean of uncertainty at the

897
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 1: quarterback position. I trust Garrett Nusmeyer. Texas has kind of

898
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:29,400
Speaker 1: gotten to that blind belief status with me in that

899
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,919
Speaker 1: they've got so much to replace, but they've got a

900
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:37,240
Speaker 1: very soft conference schedule, relatively speaking, and I just trust

901
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:41,879
Speaker 1: them to backfill. So yeah, LSU Texas right now would

902
00:48:41,880 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: be my pre spring pick. I cannot believe we're doing

903
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 1: this Big Ten. I'd put Ohio State right back there.

904
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: Ohio State over Penn State sounds reasonable, give me that

905
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:56,840
Speaker 1: right now. You can't view Ohio State in a vacuum.

906
00:48:57,239 --> 00:49:00,359
Speaker 1: So people will look at Ohio State and they'll say, oh,

907
00:49:00,400 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: how could you pick them to win the conference? Look

908
00:49:02,120 --> 00:49:05,360
Speaker 1: at all they lost. Well, I don't have them competing

909
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: against last year's version of themselves. They just have to

910
00:49:09,080 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 1: compete against everyone in the Big Ten this upcoming year.

911
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 1: So that would be Oregon and Michigan and Penn State,

912
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 1: and I think that they can hold their own there.

913
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:22,279
Speaker 1: I trust them at quarterback now, they're unknown, they're unproven

914
00:49:22,520 --> 00:49:24,320
Speaker 1: at quarterback. I think Julian Sane is going to be

915
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 1: a star in college football next year, so I'm high

916
00:49:27,080 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: on him. It's just I trust the program kind of

917
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:32,479
Speaker 1: like I do with Texas. I trust the program. Penn

918
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 1: State has the kind of vibe about them this year

919
00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:38,600
Speaker 1: that Ohio State had last year where all those guys

920
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 1: came back. They're at Penn State's case, they're another year

921
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 1: older and more experienced and proven at quarterback. Well they're

922
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: more experienced, Okay, proven at the championship level. They are

923
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:53,239
Speaker 1: not yet. I think Franklin Backfield on his staff very admirably.

924
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: They get Oregon at home early in the year. Look

925
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: at the schedule. Colin has it up right here. Oregon

926
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: they play them we four a week five actually, because

927
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: they've got a buye before Oregon comes in there, and

928
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 1: it's Oregon's like fourth or fifth straight game in a row.

929
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: So huge scheduling dynamic advantage for Penn State in one

930
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 1: of their biggest games of the year. What we don't

931
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 1: know is whether it'll be a whiteout game. We probably

932
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,400
Speaker 1: do know it probably won't be. However, most of the

933
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 1: time that just sucks for y'all because you can't have

934
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,319
Speaker 1: a whiteout game at night. But if the network of

935
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:31,040
Speaker 1: choice chooses to make you kick that game off at

936
00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 1: high noon, let's not forget that would be a nine

937
00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 1: am body time kickoff for Oregon. So could it be

938
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:41,000
Speaker 1: that we finally have a big noon advantage at Penn State.

939
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:44,239
Speaker 1: And then lastly, in the Big Twelve, I picked up

940
00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,799
Speaker 1: two dice, die if you will, I hot air at them.

941
00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,200
Speaker 1: I rolled them because that is what it's like predicting

942
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,359
Speaker 1: the Big Twelve. And I came up with Texas Tech

943
00:50:53,480 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 1: over Baylor to win this conference. That would be number

944
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: four beating number three Baylor finished, saw you Robertson, big

945
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,759
Speaker 1: fan of him at quarterback. Texas Tech went all in

946
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,000
Speaker 1: in the portal and in a conference where anything goes,

947
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,320
Speaker 1: are there really solid favorites out here? Kansas State and

948
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 1: Arizona State for the record, or one to two conference

949
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: is impossible to peg. So give me a Texas Tech Baylor.

950
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:23,960
Speaker 1: I hope that sufficed. And you may have listened to

951
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,520
Speaker 1: that and said, that doesn't sound like your normal several

952
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:30,399
Speaker 1: layers worth of a breakdown. There are no layers. It's

953
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,279
Speaker 1: pre spring. We don't even know who we're on the

954
00:51:32,320 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: teams yet, so naturally we wanted to go down the

955
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:39,360
Speaker 1: predictive road tonight. Again. I can't believe we just did that,

956
00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: but there you go, Colin, I just made a face

957
00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 1: so that we could screenshot it, because down the road,

958
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: I want to say that I screenshot that once we've

959
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: changed the picks forty seven times. All right, now on

960
00:51:51,800 --> 00:51:54,520
Speaker 1: to a more substantive conversation. You need to take a

961
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 1: sip of zvia here, A nice still lukewarm but it

962
00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,759
Speaker 1: was cold earlier when the show started, A nice lukewarm,

963
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:11,600
Speaker 1: zero sugar sip of cream soda zvia ah. They didn't

964
00:52:11,600 --> 00:52:13,759
Speaker 1: even mandate that I did the XL. I just did

965
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:18,480
Speaker 1: that on my own. Pat from Beautiful Boise, Idaho. He said,

966
00:52:18,520 --> 00:52:22,720
Speaker 1: you keep saying that the big brokers in college football

967
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:26,000
Speaker 1: are media executives. Do you really think they care about

968
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:30,240
Speaker 1: the sport or do they just care about the bottom dollar.

969
00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:35,960
Speaker 1: I think they care about the bottom dollar. That's what

970
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: it's about. I think they care about bottom dollar making

971
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,520
Speaker 1: a lot of money. But you know that's what you

972
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: care about when you go to work as well. So

973
00:52:47,080 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: it is very popular to demonize college football TV executives

974
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 1: or TV executives in general who are overseeing college football.

975
00:52:55,560 --> 00:53:00,080
Speaker 1: I want to tell you that you shouldn't stop feeling

976
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,319
Speaker 1: that way. I feel that way. It pisses me off

977
00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,400
Speaker 1: to no end what these people do to this sport sometimes,

978
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,240
Speaker 1: and I work with a lot of them. I know them.

979
00:53:08,280 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: I could call them right now and put them on speakerphone,

980
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,160
Speaker 1: and who knows, maybe one day we'll have to resort

981
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:18,240
Speaker 1: to that. But what I don't think the general college

982
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:22,840
Speaker 1: football fan understands is how much your voice matters you. Actually,

983
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: you think it's never mattered less. I'm telling you, it's

984
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,040
Speaker 1: never mattered more. You just don't realize why. So I'm

985
00:53:30,080 --> 00:53:33,240
Speaker 1: talking to our audience, our audience as normal college football fans.

986
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:36,160
Speaker 1: I am a normal college football fan. That's why I

987
00:53:36,239 --> 00:53:38,600
Speaker 1: know how you feel about this stuff, because you feel

988
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:41,120
Speaker 1: how I feel. In fact, I get even matter than

989
00:53:41,120 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: some of you guys get about it. So you have

990
00:53:43,200 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: to talk me off the ledge from time to time.

991
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:49,120
Speaker 1: Here's the thing about TV executives. Most of them are

992
00:53:49,160 --> 00:53:52,120
Speaker 1: not from our world. Most of them did not grow

993
00:53:52,200 --> 00:53:55,359
Speaker 1: up immersed in college football. College football is not part

994
00:53:55,360 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 1: of their DNA. The NFL is, Major League Baseball is,

995
00:53:59,000 --> 00:54:03,360
Speaker 1: the NBA is. They disproportionately grew up in northern cities.

996
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 1: They disproportionately grew up pro sports fans, and college football

997
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,319
Speaker 1: was kind of something they were aware of. And now

998
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: they're in charge of and they know the what, but

999
00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:16,760
Speaker 1: they don't know the why. That doesn't make them bad people,

1000
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,160
Speaker 1: It makes them uninformed people. They know the what. They

1001
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: could speak dollars and cents. They know the television numbers,

1002
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: the viewership, the demographics. They know that stuff better than

1003
00:54:26,280 --> 00:54:28,600
Speaker 1: you do. They could run circles around you and I

1004
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:32,240
Speaker 1: when it comes to describing and defining that. That's the what.

1005
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: What they don't know that you and I do know

1006
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,920
Speaker 1: is the why? Why are those numbers so big? They

1007
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,440
Speaker 1: could tell you, oh, passion, man, people love college football.

1008
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:42,840
Speaker 1: They couldn't get any deeper than that. If you really

1009
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: ask them to describe a Clemson fall Saturday, like if

1010
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: you really asked them to tangibly describe what makes a

1011
00:54:50,560 --> 00:54:54,920
Speaker 1: college football rivalry like granularly describe that like we did

1012
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,440
Speaker 1: two shows ago I think it was, they'd be lost.

1013
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,480
Speaker 1: They know that. They know that. I know, oh, because

1014
00:55:00,520 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 1: I know a lot of these folks, and they admittedly

1015
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:06,480
Speaker 1: get a little insecure when they're in those kinds of

1016
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,520
Speaker 1: conversations because they don't know. The good news is ignorance

1017
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:13,839
Speaker 1: is not always ill will. Just because some of these

1018
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:17,240
Speaker 1: folks who are making big decisions that affect this sport

1019
00:55:17,800 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: are not necessarily as knowledgeable about the sport as you

1020
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 1: and I. Does not mean they have ill will towards

1021
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: the sport. It doesn't mean that they have diabolical aspirations

1022
00:55:28,800 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 1: to tear the sport apart. They just don't know. Here's

1023
00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 1: where your voice comes in this. I can assure you

1024
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:39,840
Speaker 1: of conversations as recently as this past week have reaffirmed

1025
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 1: my belief that I've never been more sure that the

1026
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,160
Speaker 1: college football fans voice matters, more so now than it

1027
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,560
Speaker 1: ever has. But you listen to me say that, and

1028
00:55:49,600 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 1: you say, I don't believe that, because there have never

1029
00:55:52,280 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 1: been more changes happening to this sport that I don't

1030
00:55:54,719 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: like than there are right now. I don't push back

1031
00:55:58,080 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: on that. I don't like them either. I'm right there

1032
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 1: with you. I don't like a lot of them either.

1033
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 1: But your voice matters because of this. Think about it

1034
00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:08,280
Speaker 1: in any walk of life. It could be college football,

1035
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,879
Speaker 1: it could be your own place of business, it could

1036
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 1: be your family, it could be your dating life, whatever

1037
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:18,840
Speaker 1: it is, ask yourself this, when is a person most

1038
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:23,160
Speaker 1: likely to seek feedback? And the answer to that is

1039
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,520
Speaker 1: normally when they're the least informed. Now, if they're insecure,

1040
00:56:27,120 --> 00:56:30,520
Speaker 1: then they're not going to do that, So you have

1041
00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: to hope. These are people that are pretty secure. These

1042
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,919
Speaker 1: are seven figure, eight figure per year earners, so they're

1043
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 1: pretty financially secure. They want what's best for business. College

1044
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 1: football flourishing is what's best for business long term. Short term,

1045
00:56:46,680 --> 00:56:48,960
Speaker 1: you could cut corners make a quick buck at the

1046
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,600
Speaker 1: expense of the future of the sport, but long term

1047
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,840
Speaker 1: earnings are going to be tied to college football flourishing,

1048
00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:57,600
Speaker 1: which is tied to you being happy with the product

1049
00:56:57,920 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: and you continuing to tune in. Every television executive wants

1050
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: that everybody who runs a company that owns college football

1051
00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 1: media rights steals wants that a lot of them don't

1052
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: know college football and what makes it great. They know

1053
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: that it is great, they know that it is profitable,

1054
00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,400
Speaker 1: but they couldn't beat themselves intellectually out of a wet

1055
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:21,160
Speaker 1: paper bag when it comes to describing why it's great.

1056
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: But that doesn't make them bad people. That doesn't mean

1057
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: they have ill will towards the sport. It just makes

1058
00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:32,520
Speaker 1: them uninformed, which means if they're worth their salt and

1059
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Speaker 1: they're uninformed on something that they hold in their hand,

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Speaker 1: they want to be informed about it, which makes your

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Speaker 1: voice really important, makes a show like this really important.

1062
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Speaker 1: I know this because this is feedback I got this

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Speaker 1: past week from some very important people. And what they

1064
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 1: said is I learn a lot from watching that show,

1065
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: from looking at the Twitter interactions that you guys have.

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Speaker 1: Some of them you show on your show, some of

1067
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Speaker 1: them you do yourself in your own social feeds. I

1068
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Speaker 1: learn a lot. We comb through it. We listen to

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Speaker 1: the shows. We watch the shows not Your Stars, other

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Speaker 1: shows as well that feature college football die hards p

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Speaker 1: ones as they would call them in their industry. This

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Speaker 1: is the moment in time where there's a lot of

1073
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Speaker 1: inflection happening. It's a huge inflection point. Can you got

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Speaker 1: some people who may not know a ton about the

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00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,560
Speaker 1: history of college football and what makes it great and

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00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:25,000
Speaker 1: what makes you and I love it more so than

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Speaker 1: any other sport out there, and they're in charge of it.

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Speaker 1: They want to be informed. You got to inform them.

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Speaker 1: Now here's the follow up to that. Just because you

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Speaker 1: tell someone, if you're a Penn State fan that what

1081
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 1: makes me love this sport is we get one one

1082
00:58:38,920 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: game a year where we get a white out and

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Speaker 1: you guys are ruining it because you keep taking that

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Speaker 1: game and putting it at noon just because that makes

1085
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Speaker 1: you mad and you express that doesn't automatically mean the

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Speaker 1: powers that be are going to adjust, And it's because

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Speaker 1: it's a delicate process. You put yourself in their shoes

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Speaker 1: They just replace you. They wouldn't replace their way of thinking.

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Speaker 1: You cannot do that stuff overnight. You can't take a

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Speaker 1: small wins. You have to incrementally impact change or inform

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Speaker 1: change and decision making in college football, and that is

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00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: a little more tedious a process. I will grant you

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Speaker 1: that it doesn't always make us happy. But to answer

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Speaker 1: the question, no, I think most of them are worried

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Speaker 1: about the bottom line. But the thing about it long

1110
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Speaker 1: term is what's best for bottom line, what's best for

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Speaker 1: business in college football can't be achieved unless you're happy,

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Speaker 1: happy enough to be watching. And what I'll never do

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Speaker 1: is I'll never insult your intelligence on this show, at

1114
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Speaker 1: least enough to where I yell in your face. Doesn't

1115
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Speaker 1: matter how you feel, you're gonna tune in anyway. Like

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Speaker 1: what what does that really mean? Like? Yeah, man, a

1117
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Speaker 1: lot of us are gonna watch college football no matter almost,

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Speaker 1: no matter what. I really don't know for me personally,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what would have to happen for me

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Speaker 1: not to watch this sport. That doesn't mean I'm happy

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Speaker 1: about everything. And also you're not gearing it towards me,

1122
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Speaker 1: per se. I'm the last one that'll be out the door.

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Speaker 1: I'm at the party until the end. But if the

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Speaker 1: crowd thins out from one hundred to ninety one and

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Speaker 1: from ninety one to eighty six and eighty six to

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Speaker 1: seventy nine. A problem on your hands. Just because I'm

1127
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Speaker 1: still here doesn't mean the party's not dying. So if

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Speaker 1: your sport starts to erode, if some of the top

1129
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Speaker 1: layers of viewership or engagement or whatnot start to erode,

1130
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Speaker 1: you gotta do a self assessment then instead of waiting

1131
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Speaker 1: the cold brew on tap inside. Not to mention some

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Speaker 1: really really solid snacks, got itch on my nose. Place

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Speaker 1: to go, man, quick trip. We appreciate them. They fueled

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Speaker 1: the whole New Saturday tour last year, and we look

1141
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Speaker 1: forward to being in business with them for a long

1142
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Speaker 1: time to come. Got a couple of things left here.

1143
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about some spring football, like the concept

1144
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Speaker 1: of it in a second, because I don't think we've

1145
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Speaker 1: really we haven't really hit that to the degree that

1146
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Speaker 1: I want to community first up, had a question here.

1147
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 1: Randy hit me and he said, Hey, what are the

1148
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:09,280
Speaker 1: odds Ohio State gets back and they go deep in

1149
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: the playoff again, passing offense looks even better next year.

1150
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Speaker 1: You may be right, Randy, You may be right, Julian

1151
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Speaker 1: saying I just talked about him a second ago. It's quarterback,

1152
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Speaker 1: the former five star guy. He committed to Bama, then

1153
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Speaker 1: Saban left and he transferred to Ohio State. You hadn't

1154
01:02:23,960 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 1: seen him play probably yet. We hadn't seen him start

1155
01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:29,840
Speaker 1: a full season obviously, So he's there. Jeremi Smith's there,

1156
01:02:29,880 --> 01:02:32,120
Speaker 1: Caleb Downs is still there, got a lot of stars there.

1157
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 1: They lost a lot of star power. The nucleus of

1158
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:39,200
Speaker 1: that team is gone. Chip Kelly, offensive coordinator gone. Now

1159
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 1: they're still loaded at wide receiver. Like I just said,

1160
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Speaker 1: I got no doubt about them at quarterback long term.

1161
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Speaker 1: But Colin is showing you a laundry list of integral

1162
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 1: pieces to that championship team that are gone. Most championship

1163
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:58,320
Speaker 1: winning teams suffer that. That's the natural churn in consequence

1164
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:00,440
Speaker 1: of success. But I gotta be on it with you.

1165
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Speaker 1: This is a whole new world for Ohio State. This

1166
01:03:03,800 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: has not been a team that's been stacking national championships.

1167
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Speaker 1: They've been stacking wins, and they've been losing some big

1168
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Speaker 1: games at important moments, and they haven't been getting to

1169
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Speaker 1: the finish line and getting the job done. So now

1170
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Speaker 1: they did, and this right here is new oxygen. It's

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Speaker 1: new air. It's a good thing. The consequences of success

1172
01:03:21,880 --> 01:03:24,520
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1173
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Speaker 1: the consequences of success are the things that only championship

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Speaker 1: winners deal with. And we've seen examples of some of

1175
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Speaker 1: the best organizations in college football temporarily stubbing their toe

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Speaker 1: after they win a national championship because the good old

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Speaker 1: in college football. And because of that, I am almost

1179
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Speaker 1: glad there's so much turnover up there. Now. They may

1180
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Speaker 1: not win a national championship this year, but I'm almost glad.

1181
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Speaker 1: They lose so many players, and they lose so many coaches,

1182
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Speaker 1: and you're elevating offensive coordinator to maybe do things he's

1183
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Speaker 1: done for the first time, and you've got a lot

1184
01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:07,520
Speaker 1: of newness in that building. Because that allows me if

1185
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Speaker 1: I'm Ryan Day to walk into my first team meeting

1186
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Speaker 1: and look at those dudes and say, you have not

1187
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: done anything hardly. Any of you in here were instrumental

1188
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:21,160
Speaker 1: role players in US win in a national championship last year.

1189
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Speaker 1: So this program just won a national title. I got

1190
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Speaker 1: my ring and some of you have your rings. But

1191
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: what is this team done? Nothing? And what did a

1192
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Speaker 1: lot of you do on last year's team? Not a

1193
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Speaker 1: whole lot exceptions to the rule, but the general climate

1194
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Speaker 1: be this program's achieved something. What have you achieved? You

1196
01:04:43,840 --> 01:04:46,200
Speaker 1: haven't done anything of note, I'm almost glad there's a

1197
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Speaker 1: come back. Yeah, I'd prefer that, but since we can't

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Speaker 1: And you know what, if you lose a couple of

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Speaker 1: Is there an ideal way to save our precious Saturday

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Speaker 1: want to say something. I have noticed many people in

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Speaker 1: we're not really we're not really losing anything. I never

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Speaker 1: really watched more than one or two spring games anyway. Uh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the point. That's the point here. A South Carolina

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01:08:45,200 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 1: fan only watches the South Carolina spring game. That's one

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Speaker 1: out of one hundred and twenty four. If they cancel it,

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Speaker 1: you're absolutely taking something from them. This is an event,

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01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:57,800
Speaker 1: by the way, that a lot of families build their

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01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,520
Speaker 1: spring around. That's Saturday in the spring offers an opportunity

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01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: for an Alabama family of five from Trustville to go

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01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:07,479
Speaker 1: up to Tuscaloosa because they can't afford to do it

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Speaker 1: when LSU's in town. So it's also a time for

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Speaker 1: those who can't make it home for homecoming in the

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Speaker 1: fall to take the family back to campus. People who

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Speaker 1: don't get to experience it in the fall because it's

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Speaker 1: above their means of income, they get to do it

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Speaker 1: in the spring. It's not nothing when you take these

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Speaker 1: things away. So then the follow up question is, okay,

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01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:32,879
Speaker 1: but in the real world, it's happening. Steve Sarkeesian at Texas.

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Speaker 1: Talked about this the other day, and he made a

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Speaker 1: point that we've made for a while. He said, we

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Speaker 1: played four more games this past year than we would have.

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Speaker 1: We just finished our season, so from a workload perspective,

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily know that we want to do spring

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Speaker 1: the way we've always done it. And then I was

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Speaker 1: with Matt Ruhle the other day. We had him on

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Speaker 1: the show for an hour and one of the first

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Speaker 1: things I asked him was, you've been very vocal about it,

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01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: like Rule didn't wait man. Rule was ahead of everyone else.

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01:10:02,160 --> 01:10:03,880
Speaker 1: He said, I don't care if anyone spoken about this.

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Speaker 1: We're going to cancel our spring game. Then a bunch

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01:10:06,120 --> 01:10:08,840
Speaker 1: of other people followed suit. It's like everyone was. They

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01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:10,759
Speaker 1: didn't want to be first, they didn't want to be third.

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Speaker 1: If you will, here's what Matt Ruhle had to say

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Speaker 1: about this. The romantic spring of college football is long gone,

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Speaker 1: so what actually makes sense. In twenty twenty five, for Nebraska.

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Speaker 2: We had our spring game and it was highly televised.

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01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 2: It was played on repeat, over and over and over again.

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01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:29,960
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, the portal I had guys getting

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01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,599
Speaker 2: hit up in the portal hay till to leave, and

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01:10:32,080 --> 01:10:33,679
Speaker 2: it wasn't based on what they'd done in the fall.

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01:10:34,240 --> 01:10:35,920
Speaker 2: And you know, so I said to myself, like, what's

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01:10:35,960 --> 01:10:39,640
Speaker 2: what's the point of giving away information to put a

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01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:43,120
Speaker 2: game on TV? While it's it's fun, while it's something

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01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:46,080
Speaker 2: that as a player at Penn State I loved. I'm

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01:10:46,120 --> 01:10:51,240
Speaker 2: giving away a lot of information that's proprietary and new coordinators.

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Speaker 2: You know why why? I just don't know why I

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Speaker 2: would do it?

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Speaker 1: Do I love it?

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Speaker 2: No?

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Speaker 1: And I was sitting five feet from him, Do I

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01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: love it? No? Do I get it? Yeah? Would I

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Speaker 1: do the same thing? Possibly? So I can't necessarily criticize

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Speaker 1: that USC canceled THEIRS, and they said will An insider

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Speaker 1: with the program said something along the lines of, we

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01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,639
Speaker 1: think we can engage fans in a better way. So

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Speaker 1: Sark says, we're not gonna have one because the schedule

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01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,240
Speaker 1: has it not making sense anymore, rules saying, well, we

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01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,960
Speaker 1: got tampered with last year because we played a spring

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Speaker 1: game in front of six thousand people and then teams

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Speaker 1: came after our players in the post spring portal window.

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Speaker 1: Why would we voluntarily do a showcase for other teams

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01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: to take our players USC is like a spring game

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01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 1: is just a showcase for the fans anyway, So we

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Speaker 1: think we can do something better for the fans than

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Speaker 1: the spring game. Okay, I'm all for keeping an open

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Speaker 1: mind on this and allowing some good ideas to pop

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01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: up out there, but I've told you what my plan is. Like,

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Speaker 1: if I were college football commissioner, the way i'd handle

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Speaker 1: spring is unchanged. I wouldn't force you to play a game.

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Speaker 1: I would not have a post spring transfer portal window,

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01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:01,920
Speaker 1: so you don't have to worry about your players leaving

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01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,840
Speaker 1: after spring ball, because it's insane to have a post

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Speaker 1: spring portal window. I would have seasons done by early January.

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Speaker 1: Playing a national championship game January twenty third or twenty fourth,

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Speaker 1: like we're going to do this upcoming year is also insane.

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Speaker 1: So you wouldn't be ending your season, taking a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks off and then going right into spring ball.

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Speaker 1: And here's what else I do. I still believe this.

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Speaker 1: It's ridiculous for you to be playing FCS teams in

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Speaker 1: the fall. What wouldn't be ridiculous is if I took

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Speaker 1: our media partners and I put you a million dollars

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Speaker 1: on the line for each of you. If you will

1349
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Speaker 1: agree Texas A and M to schedule Sam Houston State

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Speaker 1: for your spring game, and let's make a little event

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Speaker 1: out of it. And so Sam Houston, the FCS team,

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Speaker 1: still gets their paycheck, you get an event that your

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01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,960
Speaker 1: fan base gets to go and watch, and it doesn't

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Speaker 1: count the outcomes, not really counting for your record. But

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Speaker 1: if you want to do that, I'm going to subsidize

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Speaker 1: me ESPN, CBS, NBC, Fox, I'm gonna pay you a

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Speaker 1: little extra if you'll agree to do that, because it

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01:13:06,479 --> 01:13:09,479
Speaker 1: puts inventory on my shelf in the spring. And if

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Speaker 1: you don't want to do it, that's fine. Do whatever

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Speaker 1: you want to do. No one's forcing you to do it.

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Speaker 1: But if you'll agree to do it, I'm gonna make

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Speaker 1: it a little extra worth your while if you will.

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Speaker 1: That's the way I wish spring was. I can't believe

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Speaker 1: we never got to that point where actual quasi games

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Speaker 1: could happen in the spring, where we took the SCS

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Speaker 1: Tomato can like Cupcake Week from the fall and made

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Speaker 1: it happen for the Spring game instead, knowing it doesn't

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Speaker 1: count towards record, but it's good. It's like a solid

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Speaker 1: tangible football product to end spring And I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I just I always laugh when people say, well, we

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Speaker 1: don't want to play the spring game because we don't

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Speaker 1: want to get guys hurt. You tell me you're not scrimmaging.

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Speaker 1: You're not going full eleven on eleven good on good

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Speaker 1: in closed practices in spring and fall. You're doing that

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01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: a portion of every practice you guys are doing that

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01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,880
Speaker 1: get guys hurt in the spring game. What because because

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Speaker 1: people are sitting in the stands, a guy's more likely

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01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,400
Speaker 1: to get hurt. Someone makes sense of that to me.

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