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Speaker 1: were like, what the hell is going on here? And

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Speaker 1: after a while they were like, you know what, this

431
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Speaker 1: guy's a moron, screw him, and they stormed in there,

432
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Speaker 1: you know, had to go get the key because they

433
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Speaker 1: realized there had not been a single attempt at breaching

434
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Speaker 1: the door, and they killed him within seconds of entering

435
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Speaker 1: the door. And by the way, not a single one

436
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Speaker 1: of them actually was killed. You know, they had a

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Speaker 1: tactical shield, a ballistic shield, all of that, All of

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Speaker 1: that had been on scene for you know, well into

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Speaker 1: the time that they had been there, and eventually they

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Speaker 1: basically revolted against the incident commander. So again, I think

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Speaker 1: the Border Patrol guys, you know, frankly, they need to

442
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Speaker 1: come out and they need to speak the head of

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Speaker 1: Border Patrol. I think this is a cover up frankly

444
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Speaker 1: by the administration also. I mean the Biden administration declined

445
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Speaker 1: that first day Crystal Karreeine Jean Pierre, she declined to

446
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Speaker 1: issue any call against law enforcement in their initial even

447
00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: when it was well aware within the country. And they're

448
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,200
Speaker 1: so afraid of being tagged of like, oh, you're anti

449
00:23:59,359 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: cop that the Republican governor of Texas law enforcement looks

450
00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 1: at this beyond poliics is way beyond like they're just

451
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 1: so fearful of like, oh, what's the right going to

452
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Speaker 1: say about this, that they can't even find the obvious

453
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Speaker 1: correct answer that basically everyone in the country is thinking

454
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Speaker 1: and feeling right now, with a couple of notable examples

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Speaker 1: that we're going to get to shortly. But yeah, even

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Speaker 1: the way that they frame this investigation is not confidence inspiring,

457
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Speaker 1: they say in this article. The review, which being undertaken

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Speaker 1: at the request of Yuvaldi Mayor Don McLaughlin, is tasked

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Speaker 1: with providing quote an independent account of law enforcement actions

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Speaker 1: and responses that day and to identify lessons learned and

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Speaker 1: best practices to help first responders prepare for and respond

462
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Speaker 1: to active shooter events. We don't need to, I mean,

463
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Speaker 1: we know the best practices already. It's exactly what was

464
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Speaker 1: laid out in that training, man. I mean sadly, Postcolumne

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Speaker 1: is part of what I'm going into my monologue as well.

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Speaker 1: There's been a lot of money spent by Congress to

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Speaker 1: fund research into what the best response is because in

468
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Speaker 1: Columbine there was a delay of about twenty minutes from

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Speaker 1: the time that law enforcement arrived on the scene until

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Speaker 1: when they actually entered the school, and that twenty minutes

471
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Speaker 1: was considered shocking and unconscionable at the time. But also

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Speaker 1: at the time there was no fully developed protocol for this,

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Speaker 1: so they were making it up on the fly. After that,

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Speaker 1: there have been federal funds spent hundreds of millions of

475
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Speaker 1: dollars to train, to develop and disseminate this training. So

476
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Speaker 1: we know the lessons. We don't need the lessons learned.

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Speaker 1: We need accountability. And unfortunately, you know the way that

478
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Speaker 1: our laws are written, in the way that the court

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Speaker 1: has decided, law enforcement isn't actually under a duty to protect. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was just about read. It's very unlikely that any

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Speaker 1: of these people, I mean, the most accountability they may

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Speaker 1: face is losing their job. But in terms of any

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Speaker 1: sort of criminal negligence, I think it's it's highly highly unlikely.

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Speaker 1: Here people forget you know, the Justice Department ruled, or sorry,

485
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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court ruled in two thousand and five the

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Speaker 1: police do not have a constitutional duty to protect anyone,

487
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Speaker 1: which you know, really raises a lot of questions about

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Speaker 1: the social contract. Whenever you're going to imbue somebody with

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Speaker 1: an immense amount of power and with the ability to

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Speaker 1: like hold military grade weapons and you know, automatic rifles

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Speaker 1: and training and all of this qualified immunity that we

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Speaker 1: grant the grant them. I think that within the guest

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Speaker 1: established social contract is you know, if somebody is shooting

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Speaker 1: up a school, you go in and try to kill

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Speaker 1: that person. And I think that what also is going

496
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Speaker 1: to be shown here is, you know, these parents don't

497
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Speaker 1: have recourse. It can't sue these cops for their lack

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Speaker 1: of response. You can't do really anything. And the question

499
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Speaker 1: now comes, like what actual accountability can be done. I

500
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Speaker 1: think the fact that this Uvalde ISD guy still has

501
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Speaker 1: his job is insane. I mean he should be immediately.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't even there's not a question about it. The

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Speaker 1: city council, the mayor, they should be going in name

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Speaker 1: the three cops who sat on their ass outside of

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Speaker 1: this and basically fire them. I mean, you are well

506
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Speaker 1: within your rights in order to do so. But a

507
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,720
Speaker 1: lot of what's happening here just reeks to me of

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Speaker 1: a cover up. And they're waiting for the American public

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Speaker 1: and the media and everybody to move on so that

510
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Speaker 1: they can issue their stupid little report about Oh, here's

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Speaker 1: exactly what listen. I mean, we have the broad it's

512
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Speaker 1: been a couple of days, we have the broad contents

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Speaker 1: what happened, right, the spirit of what happened. We have

514
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Speaker 1: a minute of a by minute account. We don't need

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Speaker 1: a five hundred page timeline about what's happened, like we

516
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Speaker 1: need people to be fired, preferably if possible, to be

517
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Speaker 1: prosecuted under the full extent of the law. I mean,

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Speaker 1: what's happened here is just an egregious miscarriage, at least

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Speaker 1: in the spirit of what justice is supposed to be

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00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:44,400
Speaker 1: about and about what these people are supposed to be doing.

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Speaker 1: Everything that takes time. I mean, these delaying tactics are

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00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: so typical. I mean even in the political response here

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Speaker 1: in Washington, like, oh, we're going to go and we're

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Speaker 1: going to try to work and a buy partisan manner. No,

525
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 1: the public energy is there right now, the keat is

526
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 1: on the issue right now. You know what you need

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Speaker 1: to do. You know what kind of legislation would make

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Speaker 1: a difference in terms of guns. You know what is

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Speaker 1: broadly supported by the American public. We're going to talk

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Speaker 1: about that shortly. And same with the response on the

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Speaker 1: ground here in Texas. You know at this point where

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Speaker 1: the major failures lie. Sure, we would like to know

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Speaker 1: the whole story. I still have a lot of questions.

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Speaker 1: I want to know where the freaking school resource officer

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Speaker 1: was when he was supposed to be at the school,

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Speaker 1: and they lied, you know, four different times to cover

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Speaker 1: up what exactly happened there. There were basic lies too

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Speaker 1: to try to cover their asses about how, oh he

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Speaker 1: was the shooter was wearing body armor, which was meant

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Speaker 1: I think to offer an excuse for why they weren't

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Speaker 1: able to shoot and kill this guy to start with,

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Speaker 1: and why they were so fearful of engaging with him

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Speaker 1: because they felt like he was well. It turned out

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Speaker 1: that wasn't true as well, So there are still a

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Speaker 1: lot of questions here. But you're right, we know broadly

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Speaker 1: where the mass failures lie. The lie with the head

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Speaker 1: of that Yuvaldi School District Police Department, who clearly made

548
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Speaker 1: the call, Hey, we're going to sit on our hands

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Speaker 1: for an hour, let kids bleed out on the classroom floor,

550
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Speaker 1: try to you know, keep even border patrol who are

551
00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: there saying what are we doing? Like why are we

552
00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: standing around here? Let's go in trying even to prevent

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Speaker 1: them from acting. We know that we know where the

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Speaker 1: lives came from, from the spokespeople here, from the leaders

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Speaker 1: of the department, So the fact that any of these

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Speaker 1: people still have their jobs to meet is completely insane.

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Speaker 1: The other piece we wanted to bring you is the

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Speaker 1: President and the First Lady did visit Uvaldi to meet

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Speaker 1: with families who have a little bit of that that

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00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,040
Speaker 1: we can show you. You know, this is for those

561
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Speaker 1: of you who are just listening. This is the first

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Speaker 1: Lady laying a bouquet of flowers and the memorial there

563
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Speaker 1: in front of the rob Elementary School sign along with

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of other flowers and pictures. You

565
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 1: can see some other local community members walking there and

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00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,600
Speaker 1: just contemplating this. What is really something you will never

567
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Speaker 1: be able to wrap your head around. So that's one

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00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 1: part of the public response. I said, the nation almost

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Speaker 1: overwhelmingly seize the failures of law enforcement. But that didn't

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Speaker 1: stop one of the two Texas senators from you know,

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Speaker 1: go into the mat to defend everything the police department

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Speaker 1: did here apparently, So this is center John Cornyn, he

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Speaker 1: tweeted out the second guessing and finger pointing among state

574
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Speaker 1: and local law enforcement is destructive, distracting, and unfair. Complex

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Speaker 1: scenarios require split second decisions, easy to criticize with twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty hindsight, Oh, split second decisions. Tell me what part

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Speaker 1: of an hour and twenty minute standing outside of a

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Speaker 1: classroom door is a split second decision? Here, Sager, I

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00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 1: mean that you can look at these facts and do

580
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Speaker 1: anything other than say this was a complete failure and

581
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Speaker 1: just be honest with people about what everyone in the

582
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 1: country can clearly see is pretty remarkable. And he got

583
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, absolutely dried for this on Twitter, rightfully. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: well it's not just about Ted Cruz. I mean to

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Speaker 1: a date. Ven Or Abbott is the only high ranking

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Speaker 1: Texas official who has said anything about this. I mean

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Speaker 1: Ken Paxton, who just won his primary for the attorney general.

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00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 1: And you know, this is another thing I should emphasize

589
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: that people don't know our governor Texas governor is the

590
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:18,200
Speaker 1: least powerful governor in America. Like he has basically no authority.

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Speaker 1: The attorney general and the lieutenant governor are the people

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Speaker 1: who run the state. So Ken Paxton and the lieutenant

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Speaker 1: governor are arguably a lot more powerful Ben Governor Abbot.

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Speaker 1: Nothing in terms of investigation what they're going to do,

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Speaker 1: especially with the age, they have wide ranging authority in

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Speaker 1: order to do an investigation in order to look into

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00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 1: what's happening. You know, technically, the actual bosses here, I

598
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: mean the governor positioned in Texas really very ceremonial. We

599
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 1: all found that out whenever one of those governors became president.

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Speaker 1: Ted Cruz also has not said a work. You know,

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Speaker 1: John Cornyn, the only word he has said has come

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00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 1: out and said the second guessing and finger pointing like

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00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 1: we talked about. But you know, where are our senators,

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Speaker 1: Why are our senators saying nothing here? Also, Tony Gonzales,

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Speaker 1: the congressman from this area. I mean, by all measures,

606
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,920
Speaker 1: he was very much spinning the pro cop line at

607
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,960
Speaker 1: least the first couple of days, and you know today

608
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Speaker 1: kind of like a spokesperson for them. When he was

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Speaker 1: on CNN AJ Tapper exactly, he was coming out and

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Speaker 1: he was just saying, like these ridiculous things. And what

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Speaker 1: I actually find very annoying is that what you find

612
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Speaker 1: right now is that many people media in other words,

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Speaker 1: and I guess this is fine and pressing these congressmen

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Speaker 1: and representatives on gun control. Listen, we're there from Texas,

615
00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: like Texans don't want gun control, but what they should

616
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Speaker 1: be pressed on is why are you not holding these

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Speaker 1: police officers to account? And I'm looking here in the

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00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: San Antonio press again, you can always come on the

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Speaker 1: local guys to actually do their jobs. Is in San

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Speaker 1: Antonio media. Tony Gonzalez was finally he was like, hey,

621
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Speaker 1: why did you give us this false report on the Uvaldies.

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Speaker 1: He was like, oh, well, I was giving you the

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Speaker 1: best information I had at the time, and all of this, Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's fine, but you know, you, as the congressman from

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00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 1: this area, should be calling for an actual investigation. So

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Speaker 1: I'm really repulsed by the fact that nobody in the

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00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: ranks of the Texas GOP is standing up here and

628
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: just standing up for these kids. I mean, these are

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Speaker 1: little kids, like You're there not only their representative, you

630
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:21,200
Speaker 1: represent their parents. You know. Look, you know, if you

631
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Speaker 1: do even support police and law enforcement and all of that,

632
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,000
Speaker 1: then you have to go out of your way in

633
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,720
Speaker 1: order to make sure that the failures of that are

634
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Speaker 1: called out and are dealt with in a responsible manner.

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Speaker 1: And so I just find it really disgusting here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: nobody is speaking up in Texas, and they're also leaving

637
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Speaker 1: it to Beto. It's like, look, this isn't a Democrat

638
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Speaker 1: Republican thing. I mean, I guess I sound crazy or something,

639
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,200
Speaker 1: but I think everyone can agree that what happened here

640
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: is messed up. So let's call for an investigation. I

641
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: don't understand this. Yeah, their knee jerk reaction before they

642
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 1: even knew the facts, was we're gonna, you know, praise

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Speaker 1: the lad for In fact, I have yet to hear

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Speaker 1: much talk about the teachers who risk their lives in

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Speaker 1: this situation and try to protect their students. The instant

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Speaker 1: knee jerk reaction that we heard from Abbot before I

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Speaker 1: even really knew what happened was they saved lives and

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Speaker 1: they ran towards the bullets. Well that turns out not

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Speaker 1: to be true whatsoever. And you know, I'm all for

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Speaker 1: pressing them on policy. They want to talk about mental

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Speaker 1: health and how that's agreed, like Abbot needs to continue

652
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Speaker 1: to be pressed about. Okay, why are you then blocking

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Speaker 1: funding for mental health resources in your own state? And

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's true to say that Texans are

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Speaker 1: against gun control across the board, because we're going to

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Speaker 1: cover some polling that shows overwhelming bipartisan support for some

657
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Speaker 1: universal background checks, closing the guns, show loophole even things

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Speaker 1: like red flag law, where if someone is deemed to

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Speaker 1: be a threat to themselves or others, they can be

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Speaker 1: banned from owning a gun for a certain period of time.

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Speaker 1: Even those things have overwhelming bipartisan support. So yeah, press

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Speaker 1: them on that. But also, you know, when the cops

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Speaker 1: screw up and they lie and they cover up, I mean,

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Speaker 1: they did everything wrong here with catastrophic consequences, and if

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Speaker 1: you can't just be honest about that, then you don't

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Speaker 1: deserve to be an office period. I completely agree with you.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we talk about what exactly is happening with

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Speaker 1: gun politics? So legislation, Look, I mean a vote allegedly

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Speaker 1: is coming, we know very likely fail on the floor.

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Speaker 1: I went ahead and checked after our last show. Four

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Speaker 1: Republicans are open the door or openly supportive in the Senate. Yeah,

672
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Speaker 1: obviously that's what matters, right in terms of what actually

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Speaker 1: could pass. So only four Republicans are on record as

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Speaker 1: either four or open the door to any sort of regulation.

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Speaker 1: The vast majority did not respond, so they're not actually

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Speaker 1: on record. And then about yeah, about half have actually

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Speaker 1: come out and said no, absolutely nothing. So that's where

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Speaker 1: the numbers actually stand on that now in terms of

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Speaker 1: the national calls, I was very interested to see that

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Speaker 1: Kamala Harris kind of running point on this for the

681
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Speaker 1: Biden administration, the most senior official of the administration so

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Speaker 1: far in terms of a policy response, puts up there

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Speaker 1: on the screen, Kamala Harris is demanding a ban on

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Speaker 1: assault weapons. Say they have no place in a civil society.

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Speaker 1: So obviously this is not told by the president, but

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Speaker 1: here's what she said in a direct quote. I do

687
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Speaker 1: think it's quite noteworthy on the issue of gun control.

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Speaker 1: I will say, as I said countless times, we're not

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Speaker 1: sitting around waiting to figure out. We're not looking for

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Speaker 1: a vaccine. We know what works on this. It includes

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Speaker 1: let's have an assault weapons ban. So she is the

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Speaker 1: most senior official to go out and call for the

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Speaker 1: most maximalist effort of trying to ban an assault weapon.

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Speaker 1: But obviously that's just not going to happen in our

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Speaker 1: political reality, nor do I think it should happen personally.

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Speaker 1: But in terms of the polling, I'm gonna be honest

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Speaker 1: here know things are far more where I would personally stand.

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Speaker 1: Let's put this up there on the screen, which is

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Speaker 1: that this is the latest post Uvaldi polling Politico Morning

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Speaker 1: Consult Requiring background checks on all gun sales eighty eight

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Speaker 1: percent strongly or somewhat support, eight percent strongly or somewhat oppose.

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Speaker 1: Net approval is plus eighty. Creating a national database with

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Speaker 1: info about each gun sale seventy five percent strongly or

704
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: somewhat support, eighteen percent strongly or somewhat opposed. Net approval

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Speaker 1: plus fifty seven. Banning assault style weapons sixty seven percent

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Speaker 1: strongly or somewhat support. Twenty five percent strongly or somewhat

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Speaker 1: oppose net approval plus forty two. Preventing sales of all

708
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,600
Speaker 1: firearms to people reported as dangerous to law enforcement by

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Speaker 1: a mental health provider eighty four percent strongly or somewhat support,

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Speaker 1: nine percent strongly or somewhat opposed. Net approval is plus

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Speaker 1: seventy five, making private gun sales and sales a gun

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Speaker 1: so subject to background checks eighty one percent. That's got

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Speaker 1: its net approval of plus seventy and then finally requiring

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Speaker 1: all gun owners to store their guns in a safe

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Speaker 1: storage unit. That's seventy seven percent strongly or someone support,

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Speaker 1: with a net approval there of plus sixty two. So

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Speaker 1: Americans actually feeling, you know, more on the side of

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Speaker 1: doing some even some of the more maximalist actions here

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Speaker 1: than actually we've seen in quite a long time. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think the caveat is that's not how the political

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Speaker 1: system works. Number one and number two in the past

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Speaker 1: five point thirty eight actually wrote about this, which is

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Speaker 1: that almost always you'll see a temporary spike in support

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Speaker 1: where that things revert to the mean within about two weeks.

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Speaker 1: So who knows about HOOI those things there go the

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Speaker 1: one that surprised me the most looking at the partisan

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Speaker 1: breakdown is even banning assault style weapons. Among Republicans, they're

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Speaker 1: divided almost fifty to fifty. Yeah, that's interesting. That definitely

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Speaker 1: surprised me anecdotally. You know, you guys, I talk about

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Speaker 1: my dad a lot on the show, and my dad

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Speaker 1: has long been basically like a Second Amendment voter. When

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Speaker 1: I ran for Congress, the first thing he asked me

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Speaker 1: is where I stood on the Second movie? Not even

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Speaker 1: when I told him what was He's like, so, where

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Speaker 1: do you say end on the right to bare arms?

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Speaker 1: So this is like very ingrained in him. He's very

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Speaker 1: interested in guns. He collects guns, He's into target shooting,

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Speaker 1: he's the physicisly likes the mechanics, all of that stuff.

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Speaker 1: He's very into it. And I asked him, might him

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Speaker 1: putting a spin on the ball. I just asked him

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Speaker 1: this weekend, like, you know, do you think there should

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Speaker 1: be any changes? And I know for a long time

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Speaker 1: he's among the ninety percent the thing we should have

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Speaker 1: universal background check, And as most gun owner gun owners are,

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Speaker 1: he takes the responsibility very seriously. He understands the weapons,

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Speaker 1: the mechanics of them, he stores them safely. He you know,

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Speaker 1: he is very responsible and has always ingrained that in

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Speaker 1: me and my sisters as well. And this was the

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Speaker 1: first time that he said to me. I'm thinking that

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Speaker 1: maybe he's like I've always been opposed this in the past,

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Speaker 1: but I'm thinking maybe we should ban these assault style weapons.

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Speaker 1: Now here's what I will say. Both the shooter in

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Speaker 1: at this elementary school and in Buffalo used the same weapon,

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Speaker 1: a AR fifteen. Now, mass shootings and school shootings in particular,

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Speaker 1: actually make up a very small percentage of the number

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Speaker 1: of gun dests in this country. The bulk of the

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Speaker 1: gun dests in this country are side and handgun. Handguns

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Speaker 1: overwhelmingly constitute the bulk of the killings and the homicide

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Speaker 1: and the suicides in this country. So that's why I

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Speaker 1: think that if you're going to have the most effective response,

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Speaker 1: recognizing the bounds of America is not going to totally

762
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Speaker 1: get rid of our guns. Like, that's not going to happen.

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Speaker 1: We have four hundred million weapons, Like, there are some

764
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Speaker 1: limits to how far things will go. But Nick Kristoff

765
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Speaker 1: actually crunched the data about what would be most effective

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Speaker 1: overall in terms of the numbers in curbing gun deaths,

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Speaker 1: and it's more important to focus on who gets the

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Speaker 1: weapon than what the weapon actually is. So if you have,

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Speaker 1: say someone like my dad who is an owner of

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Speaker 1: an AR fifteen, you're going to be fine. My dad

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Speaker 1: does not own an AR fifteen, but I'm just saying

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Speaker 1: if he did, you're probably going to be fine because

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Speaker 1: you have a responsible person who's statistically very unlikely to

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Speaker 1: have ultimately an issue. But when you look at the numbers,

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Speaker 1: for example, overwhelmingly Americans age eighteen to twenty account for

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Speaker 1: four percent of the population, but seventeen percent of those

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Speaker 1: known to have committed a murder. So that's why lifting

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Speaker 1: the age to twenty one can make a big difference.

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Speaker 1: Something is simple as the polling there we had on

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Speaker 1: safe storage of guns, that can actually make a big difference,

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Speaker 1: not only because then you're keeping them out of the

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Speaker 1: hands of kids in the home, but also there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of private of weapons that are stolen out

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Speaker 1: of the home. That's right, So that also prevents criminals

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Speaker 1: from stealing weapons to being able to sell them on

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Speaker 1: the black market. We talked about cracking down on straw

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Speaker 1: purchases and having better data about which gun shops are

788
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Speaker 1: overwhelmingly selling web firearms to people who are pretending to

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Speaker 1: be the real owners but are actually selling them on

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Speaker 1: the black market, and those guns overwhelmingly end up being

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Speaker 1: used in crimes that can make a big difference. Thirty

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Speaker 1: day waiting periods that can make a big difference, so

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Speaker 1: especially on things like suicide prevention and domestic violence, just

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Speaker 1: having fewer weapons in the home, having a locked up

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Speaker 1: more carefully, those are the sorts of things that can

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Speaker 1: make a difference. So personally I'm not really like particularly

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Speaker 1: opposed to an assault weapons ban, but on the range

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Speaker 1: of things that you can do in terms of total

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Speaker 1: numbers of what would reduce gun debts, I think it

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Speaker 1: is one of the less effective measures that we can

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Speaker 1: ultimately take. I was going to say, yeah, so, I

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Speaker 1: mean we know this. We banned assault weapons in nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety four to two thousand and four. Even the most

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Speaker 1: maximalist people who defend the ban will tell you that

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Speaker 1: it basically had a negligible impact on crime, on murder,

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Speaker 1: and that at best it may have may have decreased

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Speaker 1: mass shootings. But the problem is that because there's such

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Speaker 1: a rare event that just one or two can skew

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Speaker 1: data in a completely different direction. And that was also

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Speaker 1: before a lot of terrorists actually changed their tactics post

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Speaker 1: Mumbai shooting of two thousand and eight, which also skews

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Speaker 1: the data. So this is just one of those things

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Speaker 1: where assault weapons ban and on the merits, Like I said,

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Speaker 1: any independent review and I literally looked through all of them.

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Speaker 1: At best, all they can say, even the Washington Post

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Speaker 1: Glenn Kessler will tell you the best thing that I

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Speaker 1: could possibly say is it may have had a marginal

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Speaker 1: impact on school shootings. I'll guess I'll give the case

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Speaker 1: against some of these which I've heard. I spoke to

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Speaker 1: some people in the gun community, which is that part

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Speaker 1: of the problem with maintaining a gun registry is that

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Speaker 1: then that was the precursor actually in Australia and in

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Speaker 1: the UK to gun confiscation. So they're like, well, if

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Speaker 1: they know exactly how many weapons like every single person has,

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Speaker 1: then it's all easier for them to seize them, and

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Speaker 1: for the ATF in order to maintain a national registry

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Speaker 1: and use that and turn it over. Well, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a fair point. Uh. The other one,

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Speaker 1: I mean, even if I want a gun confiscation in

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Speaker 1: this country, like we didn't know that, but it may

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Speaker 1: happen thirty years from now. We can't even get universal

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Speaker 1: background checks, like we're so far. That's why they're opposed

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Speaker 1: to universal background checks. I asked. I was like, hey,

834
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Speaker 1: what am I missing? What's wrong with the universal background check?

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Speaker 1: They're like, well, if you have a universal background checking,

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Speaker 1: you have a universal registry. So there's it's very difficult

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Speaker 1: in order to write the legislation such that there would

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Speaker 1: not exist a de facto registry. Same on the red flag.

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Speaker 1: So actually, once again, you know, I went and I

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Speaker 1: looked into the red flag law. Red flag law in

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Speaker 1: Florida since twenty eighteen, used over two two hundred times.

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Speaker 1: Now in that yeah, maybe, But here's the thing. We're

843
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Speaker 1: talking about a constitutionally enshrined right by the Supreme Court

844
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Speaker 1: Crystal and by the way, it goes all the way

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Speaker 1: back to eighteen eighty six. So we can talk not

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Speaker 1: just about this court, but in that well, I'll be

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Speaker 1: talking about that in my bottel law. Even this court

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Speaker 1: recognizes that there are some limits on gun ownership. So

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Speaker 1: even though they are not where I am in terms

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Speaker 1: of interpreting the second Amendment. No one thinks that you

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Speaker 1: should be able to get whatever you want, whatever you

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Speaker 1: want with no checks with you know, you're posting rape

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Speaker 1: threats and death threats and only there are fifteen's online

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Speaker 1: that it still should be fine and cool to get one.

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Speaker 1: I just think that. Look, I think that in these

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Speaker 1: crazy times, somebody should give the case. And on the

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Speaker 1: red flag law. For example, I actually had some when

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Speaker 1: you contacted me. He turned in his own father under

859
00:45:03,320 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: the Florida legislation for red flag laws. He went to

860
00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 1: a mental health hospital. His father was, you know, he

861
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,200
Speaker 1: had suicidal thoughts, depression, et cetera. Goes through the process.

862
00:45:13,239 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: He actually declared like I don't know, cure whatever. The

863
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:19,239
Speaker 1: mental health providers like, okay, you're good. Now, Well, now

864
00:45:19,360 --> 00:45:20,919
Speaker 1: dad wants to buy a gun and he actually can't

865
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 1: do it because the Florida red Flag law won't release

866
00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 1: kind of whatever the process is under that. So again,

867
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: you know, we're talking here about somebody has a constitutionally

868
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: enshrined right, and especially in the state of Florida, in

869
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 1: order to do this, and you have the state basically

870
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: with the de facto ability in or to decide and

871
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,839
Speaker 1: adjudicate without any real due process when and how you're

872
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:43,879
Speaker 1: able to exercise. But there is a due processing red

873
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 1: flag laws, and there's a set period of time, so

874
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,360
Speaker 1: this doesn't last forever. I'm not sure exactly what the

875
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:52,480
Speaker 1: period of time is in for Florida, but there is

876
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: a set period of time. It is not indefinite. If

877
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: you want to get a renew you have to go

878
00:45:56,680 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 1: back through the process. Look, overwhelmingly people look at like

879
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:03,719
Speaker 1: this guy's social media history and say, why didn't any like,

880
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: how's this guy who's clearly deranged able on his eighteenth

881
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 1: birthday to go out and get two ar fifteens. I

882
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 1: think most people look at that and say this is insane.

883
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 1: You know, most most gun owners who like my take

884
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: it very seriously and make sure that they're you know,

885
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: that they're capable and they're competent with their firearms. The

886
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,000
Speaker 1: idea that you can just go and get anything at

887
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: any time with no training or understanding or ability or

888
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 1: competence is a danger to yourself. It's a danger to

889
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:38,719
Speaker 1: others just of accidents happening. So even the idea of

890
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: you know, if you're you want to be a gun

891
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: that's fine, but you have to go through some sort

892
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:46,200
Speaker 1: of training process so that you're actually competent with the firearm.

893
00:46:46,239 --> 00:46:50,280
Speaker 1: I think that's something else that would be reasonable to expect.

894
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,719
Speaker 1: So there's a lot of public sentiment, and there always is.

895
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 1: I think you're right that there's a spike certainly in

896
00:46:57,239 --> 00:46:59,919
Speaker 1: support right now for some of these measures that will

897
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,759
Speaker 1: likely back off, you know, in a number of weeks

898
00:47:02,840 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: or a number of months. Some of these things, though,

899
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: are overwhelmingly popular all the time, and it is the

900
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,880
Speaker 1: case that the money that is really you know, the

901
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: sort of from the gun lobby and the NRA organization,

902
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 1: that is the reason why you don't have some of

903
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:23,200
Speaker 1: these really obvious, very popular things background checks, closing a

904
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:27,879
Speaker 1: gun show loophole, you know, requiring gun owners to store

905
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: their guns in a safe storage unit. Why these things

906
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:34,400
Speaker 1: don't happen is because of that corruption and that money ultimately,

907
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 1: and because the people who you're you know that you're representing.

908
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,680
Speaker 1: I appreciate you laying out the argument on their behalf

909
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,319
Speaker 1: that they tend to be single issue voters, whereas the

910
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: people who are in favor of those gun safety measures,

911
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,320
Speaker 1: it's one of a number of issues that they ultimately

912
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 1: care about, and that puts disproportionate influence in the hands

913
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 1: of the people who are hard on the other side. Yeah, absolutely, Okay,

914
00:47:56,120 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: let's talk about Larry Nasser. Unfortunately we have to. This

915
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 1: is just one of those that really hearkens back to

916
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,959
Speaker 1: what we had talked about in our B block, which

917
00:48:05,000 --> 00:48:07,520
Speaker 1: is that they're kicking it over to the Justice Department

918
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,640
Speaker 1: to examine Yuvaldi. How has the Justice Department handled their

919
00:48:11,680 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 1: review of their behavior when it came to Russiagate and

920
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 1: also when it came to Larry Nasser. Nassar is the

921
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:20,000
Speaker 1: king example of a non political case in which you

922
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 1: really ask yourself, what the hell is the point of

923
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: having these people with all of this power and why

924
00:48:26,120 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: are they never held to account? So let's put this

925
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,120
Speaker 1: up there on the screen. The very same day that

926
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:32,480
Speaker 1: they asked the Justice Department to look into Yuvaldi, the

927
00:48:32,600 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: Justice Department, quietly, of course, not taking advantage of what

928
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:38,600
Speaker 1: exactly the media environment is, comes out and says they

929
00:48:38,600 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 1: are standing by their decision not to charge the FBI

930
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 1: agents who disregarded the gymnastics allegations by the Olympic team

931
00:48:45,400 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 1: that allowed Larry Nasser not only to assault them continually,

932
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:53,200
Speaker 1: but to continue to assault dozens of new women. And

933
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: I'll just remind everyone you have your case in which

934
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:02,000
Speaker 1: there were flags and interview being done by FBI agents

935
00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: in twenty fifteen, who then did not record the case,

936
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:09,719
Speaker 1: did not do anything about it, did not enforce or

937
00:49:09,960 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: investigate Larry Nasser until a newspaper brought to light the

938
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: allegations against him two years later, then make up statements

939
00:49:19,600 --> 00:49:23,279
Speaker 1: and record that past interview two years later. Think this

940
00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:26,920
Speaker 1: speaking here specifically about Mikayla Maroney, who these FBI agents

941
00:49:27,160 --> 00:49:29,960
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about made up things that she said

942
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,160
Speaker 1: to try and cover their own ass, saying no, no, no,

943
00:49:32,680 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 1: We did an interview back in twenty fifteen. They didn't

944
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,400
Speaker 1: even record it until after it all came out publicly.

945
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: We know that one of the agents himself was trying

946
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,360
Speaker 1: to get a job with USA Gymnastics, and that he

947
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: was in collusion effectively with the head of that program

948
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,719
Speaker 1: in order to try and to cover up what was

949
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:53,759
Speaker 1: happening here. I mean, it boggles the mind when we're

950
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 1: talking about hundreds of little children. You know, there is

951
00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,560
Speaker 1: a common theme little children failed here by lawn enforcement

952
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: that were basically shunted aside for the career ambitions of

953
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 1: these two FBI agents in the Indianapolis Field Office, and

954
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:12,440
Speaker 1: the Justice Department has out now had three times in

955
00:50:12,560 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 1: order to make this right, that they've looked back. This

956
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,919
Speaker 1: was an additional external review of the case, and they say, well,

957
00:50:19,000 --> 00:50:23,840
Speaker 1: under the current guidelines, we simply cannot prosecute these agents.

958
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:27,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he made false statements that there are people

959
00:50:27,840 --> 00:50:31,400
Speaker 1: sitting in jail for doing the exact same thing. Yeah,

960
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: and this agent is being let off the hook having

961
00:50:35,520 --> 00:50:40,360
Speaker 1: clearly violated the law and worse failed. Mikayla Maroney and

962
00:50:40,360 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: Simone Bile. I mean, not just those are the household names,

963
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:47,040
Speaker 1: the hundreds of young girls who were molested and abused

964
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: by this man. So I just think it's a you know,

965
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:51,879
Speaker 1: if you think there's accountability by these people, I don't

966
00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: know what to tell you. It is truly disgusting. And

967
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,600
Speaker 1: you make the correct point, which is the Justice Department

968
00:50:57,840 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: acknowledges that these agents lied. They say, it looks like

969
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,360
Speaker 1: they made false statements, but we don't have enough evidence

970
00:51:06,400 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: to bring criminal courches. There's a quote here from a

971
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:15,160
Speaker 1: lawyer who represents some of the survivors of his abuse,

972
00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,160
Speaker 1: who have said the continued failure by the Department of

973
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:21,840
Speaker 1: Justice criminally charge the FBI agents, USA Gymnastics, and the

974
00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: United States Olympic and Paralympic Committee officials who conspired to

975
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 1: cover up the largest sex abuse scandal in the history

976
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,880
Speaker 1: of sport is incomprehensible. And you have so many layers.

977
00:51:31,960 --> 00:51:35,600
Speaker 1: You have these FBI agents who delayed and covered up

978
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 1: because they were interested in their own careers and because

979
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: just I don't know, lazy and incompetent and the one

980
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: wanted a job with USA Gymnastics. You have that, and

981
00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:48,120
Speaker 1: then you have all of these higher level bodies USA

982
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:52,239
Speaker 1: Gymnastics and the US Olympic Committee who they wanted to

983
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,239
Speaker 1: sweep it under the rug because they just wanted to keep,

984
00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: you know, with their careers and with their industry and

985
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 1: make it money. So all of these young girls were

986
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: just you know, grists for the mill for their industry,

987
00:52:06,160 --> 00:52:08,920
Speaker 1: and that's how they treated them. I mean, the courage

988
00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:12,680
Speaker 1: that it took for Mikayla Maroney and Simone all these

989
00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 1: women to come forward and acknowledge and expose what had

990
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:23,520
Speaker 1: happened to them as young girls is extraordinary. And for

991
00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:27,200
Speaker 1: that testimony to just basically I mean McKayla Maroney made

992
00:52:27,239 --> 00:52:30,439
Speaker 1: it clear that was basically dismissed, and the FBI agent

993
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:33,439
Speaker 1: said to her is that all that's what they said

994
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:38,440
Speaker 1: to her. I can't believe. I mean, once again, no accountability.

995
00:52:38,960 --> 00:52:43,160
Speaker 1: Nobody pays the price for years and years and years

996
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 1: of abuse that was completely preventable could have been stopped.

997
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: And the people once again who were supposed to be

998
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:54,040
Speaker 1: the good guys who were supposed to come in and

999
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:58,560
Speaker 1: enforce the law and stand up for the victims the survivors,

1000
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,279
Speaker 1: here once again they canmpletely failed or interested in themselves

1001
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:03,920
Speaker 1: not doing the right thing. Yeah, and I do think

1002
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 1: it's important that we say, you know, the media describes

1003
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,239
Speaker 1: this as a bosched investigation, it's not bosh. It was

1004
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: criminally covered up by these agents who have the FBI itself.

1005
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: Remember Michael Flynn and all that. You know they went

1006
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:17,239
Speaker 1: after these I'm not defending the guy, but you know

1007
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:19,919
Speaker 1: they said they went after him for a false statements charge.

1008
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,879
Speaker 1: Same with I mean, Paul Manifort and Rogers whatever. I mean,

1009
00:53:22,920 --> 00:53:25,560
Speaker 1: my point being that when they want to, yeah, they'll

1010
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: charge that case all day long. But oh but here, no,

1011
00:53:28,320 --> 00:53:30,360
Speaker 1: we can't do that. It's one of our own I

1012
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,319
Speaker 1: think what's even grosser is they don't even release one

1013
00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:35,120
Speaker 1: of the agents whose name was involved in this. Once again,

1014
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,560
Speaker 1: I mean, these people get all the breaks in the world,

1015
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:40,160
Speaker 1: while the gymnasts and all of them are the ones

1016
00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 1: who are being abused, and by the current count, they're

1017
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,319
Speaker 1: between the time that they knew about it and the

1018
00:53:45,320 --> 00:53:47,480
Speaker 1: time they did anything about it. There were one hundred

1019
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:49,920
Speaker 1: and twenty girls who were assaulted by Larry net one

1020
00:53:50,040 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty. So just like YOU'VOLDI one hundred and

1021
00:53:53,000 --> 00:53:57,640
Speaker 1: twenty who pay the price after the actual allegations. So

1022
00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:01,000
Speaker 1: you know, we'll let MICHAELA. Maroney speak for She testified

1023
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:03,919
Speaker 1: before Congress back in September. Here's what she had to say.

1024
00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,560
Speaker 1: Most of you are probably aware I was molested by

1025
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:11,200
Speaker 1: the US gymnastics national team and Olympic team doctor Larry Nassar,

1026
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:13,920
Speaker 1: and in actuality he turned out to be more of

1027
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: a pedophile than he was a doctor. What I'm trying

1028
00:54:17,120 --> 00:54:20,480
Speaker 1: to bring to your attention today is something incredibly disturbing

1029
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: and illegal. After telling my entire story of abuse to

1030
00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:28,200
Speaker 1: the FBI in the summer of twenty fifteen, not only

1031
00:54:28,280 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 1: did the FBI not report my abuse. But when they

1032
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:36,640
Speaker 1: eventually documented my report seventeen months later, they made entirely

1033
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: false claims about what I said. After reading the Office

1034
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:45,680
Speaker 1: of Inspector General's OIG report, I was shocked and deeply

1035
00:54:45,719 --> 00:54:49,640
Speaker 1: disappointed at this narrative they chose to fabricate. They chose

1036
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:52,400
Speaker 1: to lie about what I said and protect a serial

1037
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:58,760
Speaker 1: child molester rather than protect not only me but countless others.

1038
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: You know, and simown by same thing, she had to

1039
00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 1: come out and talk about this. I recommend everybody go

1040
00:55:04,280 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 1: watch the Netflix documentary athlete A that goes into the

1041
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 1: very very beginning kind of of the initial reports against Naser.

1042
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: How and this one concerns a lot more of USA

1043
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,919
Speaker 1: Gymnastics and how exactly they covered up. But at every

1044
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,480
Speaker 1: institutional level, you know, these girls were failed, and just

1045
00:55:23,280 --> 00:55:26,480
Speaker 1: all anybody wants is accountability here. You know, I think

1046
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:31,000
Speaker 1: anybody can anybody can at least understand, if not forgive,

1047
00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,200
Speaker 1: you know, Okay, somebody came forward, but this is intentional

1048
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,839
Speaker 1: like brushing it past. And also it's very clear there

1049
00:55:36,840 --> 00:55:39,080
Speaker 1: was some sexists, like we don't believe you. Yeah, you know.

1050
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:41,200
Speaker 1: That was a huge part of what Naser would do,

1051
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:43,200
Speaker 1: is he'd be like, well, these girls, they don't understand,

1052
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 1: like this is a medical procedure. And it took actually

1053
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:48,759
Speaker 1: a female detective to be like, I think this is

1054
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 1: bullshit about what exactly is talking about. So a lot

1055
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 1: of male detectives didn't believe these clear victims of sexual assault.

1056
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: And I mean there, you know, I always think about

1057
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,920
Speaker 1: that one dad who charged and tried to hurt Nasser

1058
00:56:02,239 --> 00:56:04,520
Speaker 1: at the trial. I mean, how there's so many hundreds

1059
00:56:04,520 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 1: of those dads, kids who were suffered under him parents.

1060
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,839
Speaker 1: You know, this ruins people's lives forever, and nobody's standing

1061
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: up for them. Disgusting, disgusting. A little bit of a

1062
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,920
Speaker 1: noteworthy exchange over on Fox News where you know, we

1063
00:56:22,000 --> 00:56:26,200
Speaker 1: talked before about John Cornyn and his incident, his instinct

1064
00:56:26,440 --> 00:56:29,920
Speaker 1: after everything that happened in Uvalde, and the clear failures

1065
00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: of law enforcement waiting for an hour before they did

1066
00:56:33,600 --> 00:56:36,719
Speaker 1: anything to save those kids in that room. So, on

1067
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: the one hand, there's an instinct at Fox News that's

1068
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,520
Speaker 1: sort of like back the blue. Whatever the media is

1069
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:43,760
Speaker 1: saying about the law enforcement, this must be fake news.

1070
00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,360
Speaker 1: That side of the coin is represented by Lawrence Jones,

1071
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:49,359
Speaker 1: who I think his titles like corresponditors, and they sent

1072
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:53,000
Speaker 1: him down to cover the the shootings. He actually used

1073
00:56:53,000 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 1: to fill in at Rising, so I know him a

1074
00:56:54,280 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: little bit. I know, you know, Yeah, I've met him

1075
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: a couple of times anyway, So I think they sent

1076
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 1: they sent him down in Uvaldi to cover these mass shootings,

1077
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,520
Speaker 1: and he's just going all in on the sort of

1078
00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 1: law enforcement line. His original his original take was that

1079
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,080
Speaker 1: the AP report they were the first ones to sort

1080
00:57:12,080 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: of exposed some of the lies here was quote simply ridiculous.

1081
00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 1: So his instinct is I got to back the blue

1082
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: and I got to say this is fake news. Meanwhile,

1083
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:24,680
Speaker 1: Brian Kilmead, who Muslim's no hero in general in my view,

1084
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 1: but is actually looking at the facts here and it's like,

1085
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: wait a second, there's major problems here. And they get

1086
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 1: into a little bit of a back and forth on

1087
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:34,960
Speaker 1: Fox News. Let's take a look at that. Yeah, they

1088
00:57:35,000 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: got injured. Hey, Lawrence, a couple of thanks again, Lawrence.

1089
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 1: Understand their question is, but I think it's fair again, right,

1090
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: the double thinking of that moment. I don't think it's

1091
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,400
Speaker 1: fair at all. Well, the thing is, if the attack

1092
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: unit is there early, they do go in right away.

1093
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: They do get the keys rather than blow open the door,

1094
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,800
Speaker 1: because it is four to five, as you brought up yesterday,

1095
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:58,760
Speaker 1: and it is harder to get through, as you mentioned, Pete,

1096
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 1: they didn't have the training to get through. And the

1097
00:58:01,760 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: one thing to keep in mind, although the shooting stopped,

1098
00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:08,160
Speaker 1: and that's a fine answer, the kids were bleeding. So

1099
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,800
Speaker 1: the sooner you get in there, who knows what an

1100
00:58:10,800 --> 00:58:13,080
Speaker 1: EMT could have been able to do. How they got

1101
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 1: in there quicker, and they're not trained, essentially to handle this,

1102
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 1: and there's no excuse to leave that back door open,

1103
00:58:19,840 --> 00:58:22,240
Speaker 1: and there's no excuse to come out with some fable

1104
00:58:22,720 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 1: that they were engaged by a resource officer that was armed,

1105
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: when that is flat out fiction. That is, that's not

1106
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:35,480
Speaker 1: bad communication, that is a lie. And Lawrence had tried

1107
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,800
Speaker 1: to spin this as like, well, they're not that good

1108
00:58:37,840 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 1: at pr they're not that good at explaining. No, they

1109
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:48,360
Speaker 1: flat out lied about what happened here. Don't let your

1110
00:58:48,400 --> 00:58:51,600
Speaker 1: ideology or whatever spin you're getting from them fool you

1111
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: about the numerous repeated lies that were told about how

1112
00:58:56,400 --> 00:58:59,600
Speaker 1: all of this unfolded. And you know the excuses that

1113
00:58:59,640 --> 00:59:01,960
Speaker 1: they made. Now we know they didn't even try to

1114
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:03,760
Speaker 1: get in the door like they're going back. Oh the

1115
00:59:03,800 --> 00:59:06,280
Speaker 1: door was fortified. They didn't know how to get Border

1116
00:59:06,320 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 1: patrols went and got a key. They just hadn't asked,

1117
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:12,040
Speaker 1: They hadn't even tried to get through that door. So

1118
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 1: that part is ultimately ridiculous. And then the idea that oh,

1119
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:17,760
Speaker 1: they're just you know, they're cops, so they're talking. Isn't

1120
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 1: there thing? PR is not their thing? No, no, no,

1121
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:24,960
Speaker 1: no no. This was very intentional, deceptive narrative that was

1122
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: laid out to try to cover their asses because they

1123
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 1: knew they fucked up. I would submit actually that they're

1124
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: very good at PR and that they actually were able

1125
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:37,320
Speaker 1: to promulgate their lives for about forty eight hours before

1126
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 1: the mass media actually real life showed up. I Grabbit

1127
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:42,680
Speaker 1: was all in on and he was buying it. Rag Abbit,

1128
00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:45,800
Speaker 1: I mean from what I remember, So, I mean, you

1129
00:59:45,840 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: can go back and roll the tape. The very first

1130
00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,840
Speaker 1: time that we talked about this, one of them, I

1131
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:53,760
Speaker 1: forget who said something along the lines of there's a

1132
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:57,480
Speaker 1: lot of questions here about law enforcement response. Yes, And

1133
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,520
Speaker 1: I think I even said I was like, look, I

1134
00:59:59,560 --> 01:00:02,400
Speaker 1: don't want a second guest. Or Monday morning quarterback. But

1135
01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: I was like, I have a lot of questions about

1136
01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: how exactly when we're going to reserve judgment, But we

1137
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 1: have a lot of I'll tell you privately. I was

1138
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: telling her, and I know you were telling me. I

1139
01:00:10,760 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: was like, man, I was like, I was like, something

1140
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:14,320
Speaker 1: went wrong here. I was like, clearly this went bad.

1141
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:16,520
Speaker 1: The next day was very clear, and that's what we

1142
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:18,680
Speaker 1: led our show with then at the time. But I

1143
01:00:18,720 --> 01:00:21,120
Speaker 1: think it took about forty eight seventy two hours before

1144
01:00:21,160 --> 01:00:23,600
Speaker 1: the mass media was willing to say hold on a second.

1145
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,200
Speaker 1: When I thought it was clear as day. The very

1146
01:00:26,280 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: first press conference where Steve McCraw said that it took

1147
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:31,320
Speaker 1: an hour in order to kill I was like, oh

1148
01:00:31,360 --> 01:00:34,800
Speaker 1: my god, I know this. It violates every single thing

1149
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: that we know about terrorism and active shooting doctrine. Like

1150
01:00:38,680 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 1: across the world there are you know, the city of

1151
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:44,320
Speaker 1: London has like flex squads such that if a mass

1152
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: shooting breaks out, they could kill the gunman in like

1153
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: seven minutes, no matter where in the city that it

1154
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: actually happens. This is long standing doctrine, and yet this

1155
01:00:52,720 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 1: guy survives for an hour. Like we knew that this

1156
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,600
Speaker 1: was a screw up. So Anyway, I think they have

1157
01:00:57,960 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 1: plenty of pr on their side. It took a long time,

1158
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:04,400
Speaker 1: but eventually the lies just completely crumbled after journalists actually

1159
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:07,840
Speaker 1: started asking questions. So yeah, I mean, I think it's

1160
01:01:07,840 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 1: a shameful thing in order to say on national TV.

1161
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:12,240
Speaker 1: The first thing that was a red flag for me

1162
01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:17,160
Speaker 1: was there they were very fuzzy about what happened before

1163
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,080
Speaker 1: he went into the school. That's right, because that was

1164
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: my first name. How do you let this guy go

1165
01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:23,080
Speaker 1: in the school? Because the first the first narrative was oh,

1166
01:01:23,160 --> 01:01:25,840
Speaker 1: they engaged him outside and even at one point they

1167
01:01:25,880 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 1: tried to indicate there were three officers who were exchanging

1168
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: flat I'm like, how in the world do you let's

1169
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: just do go in this? So that was my first

1170
01:01:32,840 --> 01:01:35,120
Speaker 1: red flag. And then a big red flag for me

1171
01:01:35,200 --> 01:01:37,880
Speaker 1: was later in that same day where they had been

1172
01:01:37,960 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 1: insisting he was wearing body armor. He was wearing body armor,

1173
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,880
Speaker 1: That's why he was wearing body armor. And then it

1174
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: comes out, well, it turns out he wasn't wearing body armor,

1175
01:01:47,120 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: and that's when I said, Okay, there is a lot

1176
01:01:50,080 --> 01:01:54,080
Speaker 1: more to this story. But I think that the reason

1177
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:56,600
Speaker 1: to show this clip is it is a parable about

1178
01:01:57,000 --> 01:02:00,400
Speaker 1: don't let your ideology get in the way of the

1179
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:05,080
Speaker 1: facts reality, just telling the truth based on what is

1180
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:08,000
Speaker 1: completely obvious to everyone. Because I think that's a very

1181
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:11,120
Speaker 1: clear example of what is happening here. He's like locked

1182
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 1: into this law enforcement can do no wrong, and you

1183
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:18,080
Speaker 1: know the news media is always lying, and so with

1184
01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:21,920
Speaker 1: that as like his ideological lens, he's unable to just

1185
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,120
Speaker 1: do the basics of his job. I mean, he's not

1186
01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,320
Speaker 1: supposed to be like a commentator on the scene. He's

1187
01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:31,120
Speaker 1: supposed to be reporting out the facts of the investigation

1188
01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:34,960
Speaker 1: based on his sources on the ground. Clearly clearly not

1189
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:37,880
Speaker 1: performing too well in that sell culture. War brain does

1190
01:02:37,880 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: to you, that's great. Unable to just look at something,

1191
01:02:40,960 --> 01:02:44,440
Speaker 1: you know, with an objective lens. I don't know. I

1192
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,240
Speaker 1: think that honestly, these things harden me because it is

1193
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:51,400
Speaker 1: a time the entire country, universal right left are like,

1194
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:54,880
Speaker 1: screw these people who'll let these kids die. That's a

1195
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: rare thing. We actually shouldn't let go of that. You know,

1196
01:02:57,080 --> 01:03:00,280
Speaker 1: for all the talk about disagreement on gun control and

1197
01:03:00,320 --> 01:03:03,920
Speaker 1: the politics of it, everybody is united in their disgust

1198
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:07,120
Speaker 1: and their want of something in order to happen at

1199
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,680
Speaker 1: the very least to the people who screwed up this response.

1200
01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,440
Speaker 1: So I'm going to take something away from that. We

1201
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,400
Speaker 1: had one other little story we wanted to get in

1202
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:16,880
Speaker 1: yes this morning. I know you all are very interested

1203
01:03:17,600 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 1: in the fabulous lives of Nancy Pelosi and her husband.

1204
01:03:23,640 --> 01:03:28,320
Speaker 1: Apparently over the Memorial Day weekend he was arrested for

1205
01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:30,439
Speaker 1: driving under the influence. Go ahead and put this tear

1206
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: sheet up on the screen. Daily Mails headline, Nancy Pelosi's

1207
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:39,200
Speaker 1: millionaire husband, Paul eighty two is arrested for DUI in

1208
01:03:39,440 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 1: now the valley near the couple's vineyard. I did not

1209
01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: know that they own a vineyard. Crashing his Porsche of course, Oh,

1210
01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:50,160
Speaker 1: he crashed it. I didn't know that porch. They booked

1211
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 1: him and he spent part of the night at least

1212
01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:57,640
Speaker 1: in jail four thirteen am outside the sprawling vineyard estate

1213
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 1: in Saint Helena. Naples live in largest Who among us

1214
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:07,960
Speaker 1: hasn't crashed our car vineyards outside our custom vineyard in

1215
01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:12,480
Speaker 1: Napa while you're speaker of the house wife is on

1216
01:04:12,520 --> 01:04:15,840
Speaker 1: the East Coast. I also love her response where she

1217
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:19,040
Speaker 1: basically said the speaker will not be commenting on this

1218
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: private matter as she was on the East Coast at

1219
01:04:21,800 --> 01:04:25,360
Speaker 1: the time, so kind of throwing her own husband under

1220
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:31,240
Speaker 1: the bus, being like she was off the East coast. Sha, listen,

1221
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:35,080
Speaker 1: I have some sympathy. Eighty two years old, I saw this,

1222
01:04:35,120 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 1: commented to you know, when you're that rich, you can't

1223
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: get somebody to drive you home, Like, what's what's going on.

1224
01:04:41,960 --> 01:04:43,840
Speaker 1: There's a lot of questions too about why he was

1225
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:46,720
Speaker 1: out so late. I mean, was he coming back or

1226
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,880
Speaker 1: he was near his own vineyard. The spronging estate will

1227
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:53,680
Speaker 1: remind everybody Paul Pelosi is the real moneyman, or at

1228
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: least was before she took office, and is worth you know,

1229
01:04:56,720 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 1: well over one hundred the stock market to fantastic. He's

1230
01:05:00,920 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 1: always always making the right trades, even at his age.

1231
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:07,560
Speaker 1: Really remarkable. Yeah, even at his age, he is somebody

1232
01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:11,400
Speaker 1: who is uh been making major bets, you know, all

1233
01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,280
Speaker 1: sorts of call options and more on tech stocks, defense

1234
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,920
Speaker 1: stocks that his wife is intimately involved and would know

1235
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 1: the details of. I'm sure that's just a coincidence. Yeah,

1236
01:05:20,920 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: how they routinely beat the market, I'm sure. What I

1237
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 1: do love is that they clearly have pissed off all

1238
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: of their neighbors because all their neighbors are honest anonymously

1239
01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: talking to the They're like, yeah, they're like they always

1240
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:38,439
Speaker 1: block the road with their blacked out stvs. They're always goes.

1241
01:05:38,720 --> 01:05:42,000
Speaker 1: Another guy says this tracks more with younger Paul. He

1242
01:05:42,080 --> 01:05:45,080
Speaker 1: was always going to fundraisers and parties. Quote, I don't

1243
01:05:45,320 --> 01:05:48,920
Speaker 1: like them very much or find them very interesting. Imagine

1244
01:05:48,920 --> 01:05:51,360
Speaker 1: one of your neighbors saying that about you. That's brutal.

1245
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 1: It's so classic though. Yeah, this is like some there's

1246
01:05:54,680 --> 01:05:58,480
Speaker 1: some petty hillionaire nap of stuff. I'm here for it

1247
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:02,440
Speaker 1: to be honest. So yeah, I think it's pretty pretty fascinating.

1248
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:08,000
Speaker 1: Paul booked for a DUI at four am in the morning,

1249
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 1: his wife basically throwing him under the bus, crashing his

1250
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:16,880
Speaker 1: own Porsche so early after he was arrested throwing get

1251
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: an uber dude, Yeah, that's what I don't get. Throw

1252
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,120
Speaker 1: the TMZ thing up on the screen, like I said,

1253
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:25,400
Speaker 1: just to confirm Nancy was not Nancy Pelosi was not there.

1254
01:06:25,560 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 1: She was in Rhode Island, had giving his commencement speech

1255
01:06:28,520 --> 01:06:32,480
Speaker 1: for Brown University. So anyway, he's fine. You know, he

1256
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:34,640
Speaker 1: did crash the cap, but he seems like he's fine.

1257
01:06:34,840 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: Just thought you guys might want a little update there. Yeah,

1258
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:39,600
Speaker 1: and luckily he didn't kill anybody or hurt anybody. Yeah,

1259
01:06:39,640 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: don't drink and drive. That's the real PSA for this.

1260
01:06:43,320 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: Very well said. All right, Sager, what are you looking at? Well?

1261
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,880
Speaker 1: Something I've always found frustrating about the gun control debate

1262
01:06:51,040 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: is how little it has really changed in my lifetime.

1263
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:56,840
Speaker 1: Should people be allowed to own AR fifteen style rifles

1264
01:06:57,120 --> 01:06:59,480
Speaker 1: or not? Should we have more background checks or not?

1265
01:07:00,040 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 1: Every once in a while, some ancillary issue pops up

1266
01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,120
Speaker 1: bump stocks, ghost guns, But at its core, the debate

1267
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: remains the same. Should Americans have more or less access

1268
01:07:09,640 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 1: to semi automatic rifles? My own biases aside. What I

1269
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,960
Speaker 1: always like to do in these situations, as I did

1270
01:07:15,040 --> 01:07:18,000
Speaker 1: during the Ukraine crisis, is just take a step back

1271
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: and consider all of the history. So let's go back

1272
01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,560
Speaker 1: to the founding of America. Much has been written about

1273
01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: the Second Amendment of the US Constitution, ratified on December fifteenth,

1274
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:30,439
Speaker 1: seventeen ninety one, was and reads in full the Second

1275
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 1: Amendment quote, A well regulated militia, being necessary to the

1276
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:37,240
Speaker 1: security of a free state, the right of the people

1277
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,600
Speaker 1: to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed. The

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Speaker 1: NRA and people like me like to focus on the

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Speaker 1: latter part, after well regulated militia. People who favorite gun

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Speaker 1: control focus on the first. So who's right, Well, honestly,

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Speaker 1: kind of both. The founders almost certainly did mean well regular,

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Speaker 1: well regulated militia, but by that they also meant all

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Speaker 1: of us, because in seventeen ninety two, Saent George Washington

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Speaker 1: signed the Second Militia Act, which declares every able bodied,

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Speaker 1: white citizen of course between the age of eighteen to

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Speaker 1: forty five should be enrolled in the militia and should

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Speaker 1: thus be required to obtain a firearm in order to

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Speaker 1: remain a citizen in good standing. This muddies the waters.

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Speaker 1: So everybody was in the militia, but also everybody needed

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Speaker 1: a gun. The first hint at an individual right to

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Speaker 1: bear arms arose in US jurisprudence in eighteen twenty two

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Speaker 1: in the state of Kentucky. Kentucky in eighteen thirteen passed

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Speaker 1: a law banning concealed weapons, which was interpreted by the

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Speaker 1: state as banning swords that were concealed inside of canes.

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01:08:39,240 --> 01:08:41,479
Speaker 1: This did not sit well with some citizens, who brought

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Speaker 1: a court case, and one with the state declaring that

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Speaker 1: the law violated the right to bear arms as codified

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Speaker 1: in the US Constitution. From there things get very tricky.

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Speaker 1: In the post colonial period, a litany of states from

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Speaker 1: Tennessee to Arkansas to Georgia struck down any attempts at

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Speaker 1: restricting firearms. Except there was one catch, which is that

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Speaker 1: they struck out firearm restrictions on white people. In fact,

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Speaker 1: as I researched this monologue, I found that the original

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Speaker 1: and early attempts at all gun control in the United

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Speaker 1: States are extraordinarily racist in their origins. At the same

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Speaker 1: time that state courts in the South were guaranteeing the

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Speaker 1: right of white citizens to bear arms, they also were

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Speaker 1: upholding and passing laws that allowed citizens to go into

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Speaker 1: any black person's home to search for weapons, to ban

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Speaker 1: even free blacks from carrying arms, and ensuring at every

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Speaker 1: turn that black Americans in no way had access to

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Speaker 1: guns to challenge the Southern status quo pre Civil War.

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Speaker 1: The Civil War, of course, resolved the slavery question for

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Speaker 1: all time in America, but it also prompted the first

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Speaker 1: federal attempts at defining gun rights in America. It culminated

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Speaker 1: in presser versus Illinois eighteen eighty six, which said it

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Speaker 1: was a Second Amendment right of individuals not militias, based

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Speaker 1: upon the interpretation that I've given above that on LAS

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Speaker 1: less restricted by the state, it was the right of

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Speaker 1: every American to purchase a firearm. That was later overturned

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, and actually it took sorry in twenty

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Speaker 1: ten where they actually took it further and said that

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Speaker 1: the right to bear arm stands under the fourteenth Amendment

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Speaker 1: of the Constitution. But with the standard of eighteen eighty

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Speaker 1: six in place, we enter the paradigm of the modern era.

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Speaker 1: Guns are now are right in America, as codified by

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Speaker 1: the US Supreme Court. So the debate then became what

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Speaker 1: kind of guns? The modern era struck with a vengeance

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Speaker 1: as firearm technology evolved. When the nation was eventually shocked

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Speaker 1: by the Saint Valentine's Day massacre of nineteen twenty nine,

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Speaker 1: when seven gangsters were shot to death in Chicago by

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Speaker 1: associates of Al Capone using Thompson's submachine guns. That incident

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Speaker 1: ignited a national discussion about guns, what type of guns

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Speaker 1: people should be allowed to own, and it culminated in

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Speaker 1: the first federal legislation of its kind for gun control

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Speaker 1: the National Firearms Act of nineteen thirty four, which established

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Speaker 1: the Alcohol Tobacco at Firearms Agency and put in place

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Speaker 1: the first regulations on certain types of weapons, including taxation,

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Speaker 1: and later legislation which established the FFL system of purchasing

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Speaker 1: and registering firearms. From there, the next wave of gun

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Speaker 1: control actually did not come until nineteen sixty eight. It

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Speaker 1: was after the high profile assassinations of JFK, MLK, Bobby Kennedy,

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Speaker 1: Malcolm X, and many more, with a Gun Control Act

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Speaker 1: of nineteen sixty eight. The sixty eight law was the

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Speaker 1: first federally of its kind to stop felons, the mentally ill,

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Speaker 1: and others from purchasing guns, in addition to requiring serial

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Speaker 1: numbers from that point forward on all guns to impose

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Speaker 1: regulation and licensing. Then, finally, after some brief dalliances with

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Speaker 1: rolling back some of those regulations and more, the most

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Speaker 1: stringent and last large piece of legislation that has passed

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Speaker 1: was the famous Brady Bill. It was named after the

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Speaker 1: Press secretary of Ronald Reagan, who was wounded by John Hinckley.

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Speaker 1: The Brady Bill, in conjunction with the nineteen ninety four

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Speaker 1: assault weapons ban created the National Instant Criminal background check

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Speaker 1: system for when you buy a gun. It also banned

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Speaker 1: semi automatic rifles from purchase for Americans from nineteen ninety

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Speaker 1: four to two thousand and four. As I mentioned earlier,

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Speaker 1: results are honestly pretty mixed on whether the assault weapons

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Speaker 1: ban did anything at all. A two thousand and four

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Speaker 1: study by the Justice Department said it had a negligible

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Speaker 1: impact on crime and gun debts. As far as mass shootings,

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Speaker 1: they said it could have could have had an impact,

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Speaker 1: but there isn't a lot of ways to know, given

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Speaker 1: how rare they are. And of course, with regards to

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Speaker 1: school shooting, the nineteen ninety nine combined shooting still happened

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Speaker 1: under the assault weaponspan. That basically brings us to where

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Speaker 1: we are today, and again why I find it so

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Speaker 1: frustrating the maximalist position of the gun control side today

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Speaker 1: is an assault weapons ban which we literally already tried.

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Speaker 1: So do we not have any imagination in this country

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Speaker 1: to try anything new. The confines of our debate are simple.

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Speaker 1: DC versus Heller at two thousand and eight ruled unequivocally

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Speaker 1: quote the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to possess

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Speaker 1: a firearm unconnected with service in a militia, and to

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Speaker 1: use that arm for traditionally lawful purposes such as self

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Speaker 1: defense within the home. Under that standard, which is not

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01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:10,759
Speaker 1: going to change, we have a few simple realities to face.

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Speaker 1: Guns are not going anywhere. The most maximus position of

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Speaker 1: today in gun control has already been tried, with no

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Speaker 1: evidence that it actually worked. Again marginally, I have said, sure,

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Speaker 1: some background checks systems are fine as long as they

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Speaker 1: are not used as a national database of firearms. But

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Speaker 1: what really strikes me is those original attempts at gun

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Speaker 1: control and the spirit behind them. There is a reason

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Speaker 1: the Southerners tried very hard to keep guns away, not

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Speaker 1: only from slaves, but free blacks, and because to me,

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01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:42,160
Speaker 1: guns embody the spirit of individual autonomy baked into the

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Speaker 1: American idea and our expansion across the frontier that when

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Speaker 1: shit hits the fan, the only person you can really

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Speaker 1: count on is yourself. Ask the parents in Uvalde, Texas

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Speaker 1: who had to storm past cops and were reluctant to

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Speaker 1: kill a mass shooter to save their own kids, and

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01:13:57,680 --> 01:14:00,080
Speaker 1: then ask yourself whether you don't want everything in you

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Speaker 1: your power to ensure that in a similar situation, you

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01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:04,840
Speaker 1: can do what needs to be done, because from where

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Speaker 1: I'm sitting here, just about the worst idea that we

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01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: have is to give idiots in charge more power over us,

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01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,760
Speaker 1: especially power over our ability to take matters into our

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01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,599
Speaker 1: own hands if they fail us. I was really interested,

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Speaker 1: actually in the history of God control. And if you

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01:14:19,920 --> 01:14:22,760
Speaker 1: want to hear my reaction to Sager's monologue, become a

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Speaker 1: premium subscriber today at breakingpoints dot com. Chrissel, what are

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01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 1: you taking a look at? Well? Guys? After nineteen children

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01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:33,879
Speaker 1: were slaughtered in their classrooms along with their brave teachers,

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01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,320
Speaker 1: Republican elites were faced with a bit of a difficult

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01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:40,160
Speaker 1: political predicament. All of their normal tools of distraction and

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01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 1: deflection and response to these repeated strategies tragedies were kind

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01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:45,800
Speaker 1: of taken off the table. The American public is no

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01:14:45,880 --> 01:14:48,200
Speaker 1: longer really impressed with the argument that you just shouldn't

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Speaker 1: talk about policy changes in the wake of mass shootings.

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Speaker 1: Those mass shootings are so routine that to avoid such

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Speaker 1: a conversation would preclude ever discussing how we might make

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Speaker 1: the country safer. And the normal argument from the right

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01:14:59,600 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 1: that we us need more good guys with guns also

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01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:05,799
Speaker 1: proved unworkable once we learned that nineteen supposed good guys

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Speaker 1: with guns stood outside of that classroom for an hour

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Speaker 1: and did nothing, not even attempting to breach the doors

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Speaker 1: to come to the aid of those hiding in terror

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01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:17,120
Speaker 1: under tables or smeared with the blood of their friends,

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Speaker 1: poing dead or bleeding out for lack of medical care

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Speaker 1: on the floor. So instead they have overwhelmingly landed on

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Speaker 1: this And one of the things that everyone agreed is,

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Speaker 1: don't have all of these unlocked back doors, have one

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01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:34,800
Speaker 1: door into and out of the school, and have that

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01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:38,280
Speaker 1: one door armed police officers at that door. If that

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Speaker 1: had happened, if those federal grants had gone to this

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Speaker 1: school when that psychopath arrived, the armed police officers could

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Speaker 1: have taken them out, and we'd have nineteen children and

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Speaker 1: two teachers still alive. There is no complete solution, there's

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Speaker 1: only a series of partial solutions. We can't just throw

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Speaker 1: later at this. I hear in passion, please showing for

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Speaker 1: an officer in every school in America. That's logistically unfeasible

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Speaker 1: and mathematically impossible. What we need to do is utilize

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Speaker 1: smart technology. That's what's needed. We need to install man traps.

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Speaker 1: This is something we've discussed in the past. Back in

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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, I checked man traps, a series of interlocking

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Speaker 1: doors at the school entrance that are triggered by a tripwire.

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Speaker 1: A tripwire can be a gunshot, broken glass, a manual

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01:16:23,960 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: switch tossed by a school employee, and it traps the

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01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:32,840
Speaker 1: shooter like a rat. And when he's trapped like a rat,

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01:16:33,200 --> 01:16:36,920
Speaker 1: we're buying time. The most precious commodity these children can

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01:16:37,000 --> 01:16:40,880
Speaker 1: ever get is time to run, time to hide, time

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01:16:40,920 --> 01:16:44,320
Speaker 1: to get away from this madman and his bullets. It's

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01:16:44,360 --> 01:16:47,840
Speaker 1: trip wires, it's man traps, it's not labor, it's not

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01:16:47,960 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: gun control. What we need now is a top to

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Speaker 1: bottom security overhaul at schools all across our country. Every

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01:17:00,160 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: rebuilding should have a single point of entry. There should

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Speaker 1: be strong exterior fencing, metal detectors, and the use of

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Speaker 1: new technology to make sure that no unauthorized individual can

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Speaker 1: ever enter the school with a weapon. We need booby

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Speaker 1: traps or single entrances, ballistic blankets, TSA style security checkpoints.

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01:17:26,720 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 1: By the way, having multiple entrances is a pretty important

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01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: thing for making sure kids can escape in a fire.

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Speaker 1: But the general idea is turn our schools into impenetrable

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Speaker 1: military fortresses which can never be breached. And listen, I

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Speaker 1: am not against considering how to make our school safer.

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Speaker 1: In fact, in the wake of this tragedy, I was

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Speaker 1: relieved personally thinking about the design of my son's public

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Speaker 1: elementary school, where nearly all the classrooms have doors to

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Speaker 1: the outside, providing a potential route of escape if the

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Speaker 1: unthinkable happens and a killer wanders their halls looking for

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Speaker 1: an unlocked classroom door. But there's a couple of problems

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Speaker 1: with this whole whole discussion. First of all, when you

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Speaker 1: focus only on fortifying schools to the exclusion of any

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01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:08,000
Speaker 1: attempts to make society safer so that we can send

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Speaker 1: our kids to school without fear, you accept that our

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Speaker 1: schools are a battlefield. You resign yourself to a world

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Speaker 1: in which kindergarteners, along with learning their letters, have to

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01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:19,800
Speaker 1: learn what to do and where to hide if a

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Speaker 1: lunatic with weapons of war comes to murder them and

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Speaker 1: their friends. You admit that the adults have thoroughly failed them,

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Speaker 1: have failed to create a safe society for them. So

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Speaker 1: the best we can do is hope to thwart the

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Speaker 1: killers once they've already arrived, drilling children on how to

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Speaker 1: survive the war. But of course the truth is the

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Speaker 1: adults have failed them. No one can doubt that at

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Speaker 1: this point, which is why I'm not opposed to thinking

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01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:48,360
Speaker 1: through the safest school architecture, protocols and technology. But the

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Speaker 1: other problem with this mode of thinking, with taking as

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Speaker 1: a given that our places of learning should also be

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01:18:52,600 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 1: fortified as places of combat, is that we've kind of

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01:18:55,760 --> 01:19:00,240
Speaker 1: already done it. We've already hardened the schools. Congress has

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01:19:00,280 --> 01:19:04,960
Speaker 1: acted in a bipartisan manner repeatedly to appropriate hundreds of

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01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:07,360
Speaker 1: millions of dollars over two decades to the twin goals

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Speaker 1: of number one, training the police to respond to active

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Speaker 1: shooters in schools, and number two fortifying school so that

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Speaker 1: they will not be easy targets Evaldi's police and their

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Speaker 1: school district. They were thoroughly up to date and fully

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Speaker 1: funded on both police training and school hardening, fences, lock doors,

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Speaker 1: school resource officers, state of the art training. In the end,

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Speaker 1: none of them mattered. Now, I graduated high school back

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Speaker 1: in nineteen ninety nine, the last days of the old

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01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,599
Speaker 1: innocence that was the year that two teenagers at Columbine

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01:19:36,640 --> 01:19:38,880
Speaker 1: High School murdered twelve of their classmates and one of

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Speaker 1: their teachers before turning the guns on themselves. Now, a

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Speaker 1: Columbine police responded to nine to one one calls almost immediately,

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Speaker 1: but then it took them another twenty excruciating minutes after

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Speaker 1: they were on the scene to actually enter the school

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Speaker 1: and attempt to rescue terrorized students. That response now seems

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Speaker 1: kind of fantastic compared to what the cops in Uvalde did. Honestly,

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01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,679
Speaker 1: but in response on us the horror of Columbine, Congress

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01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 1: opened up the purse strings and they funded millions in

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01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 1: research and dissemination of new SWAT team trainings so that

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01:20:07,000 --> 01:20:09,960
Speaker 1: every police department in the country would know exactly what

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01:20:10,040 --> 01:20:13,519
Speaker 1: to do if faced with this nightmare scenario. The Ivaldi

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01:20:13,560 --> 01:20:17,120
Speaker 1: Police Department was thoroughly schooled in this federally funded post

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01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:21,519
Speaker 1: Columbine active shooter response. In fact, that school district had

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01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,840
Speaker 1: recently hosted two training days for law enforcement, including one

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01:20:24,840 --> 01:20:27,240
Speaker 1: that was just two months ago, and the protocol the

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01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,840
Speaker 1: responding cops were meant to follow could not have been

1511
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:33,000
Speaker 1: more clear. The number one priority in the words of

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01:20:33,040 --> 01:20:37,600
Speaker 1: their trading manual is to quote, stop the killing. Officer's

1513
01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:41,080
Speaker 1: first priority is to move in and confront the attacker.

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01:20:41,720 --> 01:20:43,400
Speaker 1: It goes on to make clear that if you are

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01:20:43,439 --> 01:20:46,040
Speaker 1: the first person on the scene, you are not going

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01:20:46,120 --> 01:20:49,880
Speaker 1: to wait for backup. Quote. In many cases, that immediate

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01:20:49,920 --> 01:20:53,920
Speaker 1: response means a single solow officer response until such time

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01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: as other forces can arrive. The best hope that innocent

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01:20:57,479 --> 01:21:02,280
Speaker 1: victims have is that officers immediately moved into action to isolate, distract,

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01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: or neutralize the threat, even if that means one officer

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01:21:05,240 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 1: acting alone. Now, in case that wasn't clear enough, the

1522
01:21:09,120 --> 01:21:11,960
Speaker 1: training spells it out that if you've got a problem

1523
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:16,080
Speaker 1: with being the sole officer responding to that threat, you

1524
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:19,320
Speaker 1: need to find another line of work. Quote. A first

1525
01:21:19,360 --> 01:21:22,759
Speaker 1: responder unwilling to place the lives of the innocent above

1526
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:27,320
Speaker 1: their own safety should consider another career field. And we

1527
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 1: all know what happened though, when it was time to

1528
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:31,479
Speaker 1: put all that training to the test. Cops cowered in

1529
01:21:31,520 --> 01:21:34,800
Speaker 1: the hallways for an hour without even attempting to breach

1530
01:21:34,840 --> 01:21:40,120
Speaker 1: the door. More stood outside, handcuffing and tasing desperate parents

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01:21:40,120 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: who were begging them to act. It took the border patrol,

1532
01:21:43,120 --> 01:21:47,000
Speaker 1: finally overriding the local PD before the carnage actually stopped.

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01:21:47,479 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 1: No matter how much training the good guys with guns had,

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01:21:51,040 --> 01:21:53,600
Speaker 1: in the end, it was no match for human cowardice

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01:21:53,640 --> 01:21:56,000
Speaker 1: in the face of a madman with an AAR fifteen.

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Speaker 1: But that's not all because Yuvaldi, like nearly every America

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01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:04,840
Speaker 1: school has also been physically fortified against exactly such a threat. Now,

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01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,120
Speaker 1: school hardening is a big business, so while Congress couldn't

1539
01:22:08,120 --> 01:22:11,960
Speaker 1: pass even the most basic popular gun reforms, they had

1540
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,599
Speaker 1: no problem dishing out millions at the past of industry

1541
01:22:14,640 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 1: lobbyists to this burgeoning carvet center. Bill Clinton passed tens

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01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 1: of millions and dollars for school security. Georgia W. Bush

1543
01:22:21,200 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 1: sent three hundred and fifty million dollars to schools to

1544
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:27,880
Speaker 1: hire on site police and install security cameras and other fortifications.

1545
01:22:28,320 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 1: Every Congress continues these appropriations, fueling what has now become

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01:22:31,600 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 1: a multi billion dollar industry with its own trade, convention

1547
01:22:34,600 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 1: and influence peddlers. Texas has actually gone even further. Following

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01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:41,200
Speaker 1: school shooting in Santa Fe that killed ten, Governor Greg

1549
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:44,080
Speaker 1: Abbott passed one hundred million dollars in school security funds,

1550
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:46,920
Speaker 1: a portion of which flow to Valdi Consolidated School District.

1551
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:50,720
Speaker 1: To harden their schools, they invested in perimeter fencing, in

1552
01:22:50,720 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 1: two way radios, threat assessment teams at each school, protocols

1553
01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:56,519
Speaker 1: like locking every classroom door. They hired more police. They

1554
01:22:56,560 --> 01:22:59,760
Speaker 1: invested in Social Sentinel, that's software which tracks students social

1555
01:22:59,800 --> 01:23:03,519
Speaker 1: needs to evaluate any potential threats. An app called stop

1556
01:23:03,560 --> 01:23:07,599
Speaker 1: it for students to anonymously report bullying, raptor visitor management

1557
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,879
Speaker 1: to scan and check visitor ideas against sex offender registries,

1558
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:14,320
Speaker 1: and to guard against potential kidnapping threats. None of the

1559
01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:17,519
Speaker 1: state of the art tech stopped the murder of nineteen

1560
01:23:17,600 --> 01:23:21,200
Speaker 1: babies now listen. Just because those measures failed in Uvalde

1561
01:23:21,280 --> 01:23:23,120
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that they never work and should just be

1562
01:23:23,160 --> 01:23:27,439
Speaker 1: tossed down altogether. However, there is no actual proof that

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01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:31,160
Speaker 1: what the school safety industry is selling actually works. A

1564
01:23:31,200 --> 01:23:34,479
Speaker 1: comprehensive review by the National Association of School Psychologists was

1565
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:38,160
Speaker 1: unable to identify any research that showed that these expensive

1566
01:23:38,200 --> 01:23:42,160
Speaker 1: security add ons actually thwarted attacks or lessen the death count.

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01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 1: We have been hardening schools for two decades now. The

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01:23:45,800 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 1: carnage has never stopped in fact, last year saw a

1569
01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:52,599
Speaker 1: record breaking number of school shootings two hundred and thirty plus.

1570
01:23:52,800 --> 01:23:55,880
Speaker 1: That is double of the year prior. The bottom line

1571
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 1: is this, if we actually want to protect our kids,

1572
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:02,519
Speaker 1: no amount of school hardening and good guys with guns

1573
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:06,000
Speaker 1: and state of the art training can substitute for preventing

1574
01:24:06,040 --> 01:24:08,840
Speaker 1: these whores from occurring in the first place. If we

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01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:12,120
Speaker 1: are actually serious about protecting the lives and innocence of

1576
01:24:12,160 --> 01:24:14,880
Speaker 1: our children, we will work to keep ar fifteens out

1577
01:24:14,880 --> 01:24:17,679
Speaker 1: of the hands of lunatics. We will pass universal healthcare

1578
01:24:17,720 --> 01:24:20,519
Speaker 1: so everyone's struggling with mental health issues can actually get health.

1579
01:24:21,000 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: And even more challenging, we will work to create a

1580
01:24:23,960 --> 01:24:28,599
Speaker 1: society that produces fewer deranged or hate fueled killers to

1581
01:24:28,720 --> 01:24:31,280
Speaker 1: begin with. And again, Sagar, I don't want to say

1582
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: none of the stuff works, However I do think it is.

1583
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:37,000
Speaker 1: And if you want to hear my reaction to Crystal's monologue,

1584
01:24:37,000 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: become a premium subscriber today at Breakingpoints dot com. All right,

1585
01:24:43,000 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: let's get to it. We have a fun thing to

1586
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:47,920
Speaker 1: talk about today. It's May thirtieth, we're heading in obviously,

1587
01:24:47,960 --> 01:24:49,880
Speaker 1: I know it's a holiday weekend for some of you.

1588
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,320
Speaker 1: We thought it was important to continue doing the show

1589
01:24:52,360 --> 01:24:55,000
Speaker 1: because we're coming up on our one year anniversary, which

1590
01:24:55,040 --> 01:24:58,280
Speaker 1: is really just kind of incredible. If you're a premium subscriber,

1591
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,720
Speaker 1: we filmed the special kind of one year recap for

1592
01:25:00,760 --> 01:25:02,680
Speaker 1: all of you, but for those of us who you know,

1593
01:25:02,760 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 1: watch and stick with the show, I think we owe

1594
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:06,759
Speaker 1: it to you as well. It's just amazing and obviously

1595
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,640
Speaker 1: would never be here without your Crystal, and it's just

1596
01:25:09,680 --> 01:25:12,920
Speaker 1: fun to think back. I remember I think we were

1597
01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:16,519
Speaker 1: doing a practice show Memorial Day weekend exactly this time

1598
01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:18,800
Speaker 1: one year ago, that's right, and we were it was

1599
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 1: like secret, we couldn't exactly. We did multiple rehearsals and

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01:25:22,280 --> 01:25:25,280
Speaker 1: that's where we filmed some of our promotional content, which

1601
01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,360
Speaker 1: we eventually posted and you guys immediately were like, hey,

1602
01:25:28,400 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 1: the audio here is terrible. And because you know, our

1603
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:32,640
Speaker 1: premium subscribers showed up for us, we were able to

1604
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:35,240
Speaker 1: pay and have in an audio shout out to Steve

1605
01:25:35,840 --> 01:25:38,200
Speaker 1: who helps us out every day. It's just a fun

1606
01:25:38,200 --> 01:25:40,439
Speaker 1: time and I can think to reflect on the growth

1607
01:25:40,439 --> 01:25:42,320
Speaker 1: of the show as we come up here. I just

1608
01:25:42,439 --> 01:25:45,840
Speaker 1: checked this morning, which is insane to me. Not one

1609
01:25:45,920 --> 01:25:49,679
Speaker 1: time in the last three hundred and sixty five days

1610
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 1: or three hundred and sixty four days have we dropped

1611
01:25:52,280 --> 01:25:55,920
Speaker 1: below the iTunes or Spotify top ten in politics news.

1612
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:59,840
Speaker 1: There has not been one day that we've dropped below that,

1613
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,120
Speaker 1: which is insane to me. I mean, we came from

1614
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,680
Speaker 1: the hill. We I thought Wou'd be okay, you know,

1615
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:08,680
Speaker 1: we don't know. Ultimately was a bet and it has

1616
01:26:08,840 --> 01:26:11,240
Speaker 1: never dropped below the top ten. If anything, the show

1617
01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,720
Speaker 1: has grown every single month that it has been on

1618
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:16,519
Speaker 1: the air. It's you know, we have eight hundred thousand

1619
01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 1: some YouTube subscribers. It's just been overwhelming almost in terms

1620
01:26:21,479 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 1: of how big the show got so quickly that it

1621
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:27,479
Speaker 1: was reconstituted and just shows us, like why we want

1622
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: to keep doing this, what we want to keep doing

1623
01:26:29,439 --> 01:26:31,479
Speaker 1: as we continue to grow the show. Yeah, there's a

1624
01:26:31,520 --> 01:26:35,040
Speaker 1: couple of things I want to say as we think

1625
01:26:35,080 --> 01:26:37,400
Speaker 1: about the first year. First of all, I want to

1626
01:26:37,439 --> 01:26:40,400
Speaker 1: thank you for being such a great partner. And there

1627
01:26:40,479 --> 01:26:42,200
Speaker 1: is no one that I would rather be on this

1628
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:44,280
Speaker 1: journey with because as much as we you know, I

1629
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 1: mean we have disagreements right now overguns at all of

1630
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:51,000
Speaker 1: these things, but we both have a bedrock belief that

1631
01:26:51,120 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: if we can't even engage with someone who we really believe,

1632
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:56,680
Speaker 1: you know, know, to be a good faith actor on

1633
01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:59,479
Speaker 1: areas that are difficult and challenging, like what hope is

1634
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,280
Speaker 1: there for the So we really believe in that, even

1635
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,479
Speaker 1: though sometimes would be more comfortable to just have someone

1636
01:27:04,840 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 1: next to me that's going to be like amen and

1637
01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:09,599
Speaker 1: just be preaching to the choir and we know you guys.

1638
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:12,080
Speaker 1: That's something else that we're really proud of is that

1639
01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:18,480
Speaker 1: the audience has really different views across the entire spectrum

1640
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:23,960
Speaker 1: and shows up because they want to hear things that, yeah,

1641
01:27:23,960 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: they agree with, but they also are open to being challenged.

1642
01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 1: And that is so incredibly rare. And I want you

1643
01:27:30,720 --> 01:27:32,960
Speaker 1: to know that we don't take that for granted. We

1644
01:27:33,000 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: really take it seriously. We really try our best to,

1645
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,320
Speaker 1: you know, even if you disagree with us, to try

1646
01:27:38,320 --> 01:27:41,760
Speaker 1: to thoroughly think through our arguments and push and question ourselves.

1647
01:27:42,240 --> 01:27:44,200
Speaker 1: And I think the fact that we have someone else

1648
01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 1: on the other side who's kind of keeping us honest

1649
01:27:47,439 --> 01:27:50,959
Speaker 1: helps to make sure that that that that discipline is enforced.

1650
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:54,000
Speaker 1: So that's one thing. Another thing I want to say

1651
01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:57,880
Speaker 1: is that since leaving the Hill, which I feel really

1652
01:27:57,880 --> 01:28:01,120
Speaker 1: grateful for having the opportunity to there and learn there

1653
01:28:01,160 --> 01:28:04,040
Speaker 1: and you know, and be able to establish what the

1654
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,600
Speaker 1: show really was in the core of it. But I

1655
01:28:06,640 --> 01:28:09,840
Speaker 1: think both of us have never felt more free. I mean,

1656
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:13,080
Speaker 1: we are answerable to no one but you guys. You know,

1657
01:28:13,200 --> 01:28:16,760
Speaker 1: we really like there is no other parameter, there is

1658
01:28:16,800 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: no constraint. We're able to do the show in exactly

1659
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:23,080
Speaker 1: the way that we want to be able to do it.

1660
01:28:23,560 --> 01:28:26,479
Speaker 1: And we spend a lot of time and I hope

1661
01:28:26,520 --> 01:28:28,320
Speaker 1: that this comes through to you guys. We spend a

1662
01:28:28,360 --> 01:28:32,280
Speaker 1: lot of time thinking about how we can provide, continue

1663
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:36,280
Speaker 1: to build and provide the best product for you possible.

1664
01:28:37,240 --> 01:28:39,840
Speaker 1: It sounds really hokey, but the fact that the show

1665
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:43,320
Speaker 1: has succeeded and that there is a space for independent

1666
01:28:43,400 --> 01:28:46,479
Speaker 1: media that doesn't quite fit in the box of a

1667
01:28:46,520 --> 01:28:50,360
Speaker 1: lot of different things, that truly does give me hope

1668
01:28:50,360 --> 01:28:52,479
Speaker 1: for the country and make me feel like, Okay, there's

1669
01:28:52,479 --> 01:28:55,120
Speaker 1: something here to build on, there's something here to work with.

1670
01:28:55,200 --> 01:28:57,840
Speaker 1: And from the feedback you all have given us, it

1671
01:28:57,880 --> 01:29:00,559
Speaker 1: seems like that has provided a sort of like comfort

1672
01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,400
Speaker 1: to you as well. That knowledge. It's you know, we

1673
01:29:02,439 --> 01:29:04,880
Speaker 1: do a podcast version of all of our partnership content

1674
01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,559
Speaker 1: that goes out on Saturday. That partnership thing is now

1675
01:29:07,600 --> 01:29:10,920
Speaker 1: sometimes longer than our show. Yeah, it is amazing to me.

1676
01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 1: So that's the thing. You guys showed up nuts for

1677
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:17,200
Speaker 1: us to build a beautiful desk that we replaced the bricks,

1678
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: bought the new cameras, all the new recording equipment. We've

1679
01:29:20,479 --> 01:29:23,479
Speaker 1: got a full staff over there. We've got graphic designers

1680
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:25,320
Speaker 1: who work on the show and make sure that everything

1681
01:29:25,600 --> 01:29:27,720
Speaker 1: looks good. That's just the bedrock. And then from there

1682
01:29:27,840 --> 01:29:29,720
Speaker 1: when we can cover those expenses on top of the

1683
01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:33,479
Speaker 1: studio and all of the other extraneous business expenses that

1684
01:29:33,560 --> 01:29:35,600
Speaker 1: we have to pay. Now we are able are to

1685
01:29:35,640 --> 01:29:37,640
Speaker 1: partner with all of these great people. So we have

1686
01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:40,000
Speaker 1: a graphic here. Let's put this up there on the screen.

1687
01:29:40,080 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 1: It's kind of like planets that circle here. I mean

1688
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:44,799
Speaker 1: not just on top of Crystal and I own personal

1689
01:29:44,840 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 1: projects like the realignment and Crystal Kyle and Friends. Kyle

1690
01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:50,960
Speaker 1: Kolinsky's very gracious and putting some clips on our channel.

1691
01:29:51,000 --> 01:29:54,120
Speaker 1: Marshall's been doing these fantastic interviews the Lever obviously the

1692
01:29:54,200 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 1: very first ones. They've been doing. Original reporting status kup

1693
01:29:57,400 --> 01:30:00,000
Speaker 1: with Jordan Chariton and look, Jordan may have a less

1694
01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,920
Speaker 1: leaning perspective, but you know the guy does good on

1695
01:30:02,960 --> 01:30:06,280
Speaker 1: the ground reporting, no matter what you might think of

1696
01:30:06,720 --> 01:30:09,320
Speaker 1: his own personal opinions. He did great clips for us

1697
01:30:09,320 --> 01:30:12,240
Speaker 1: from the JD Vance rally, had great clips there also

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Speaker 1: with Nina Turner. He had somebody down in Texas. So

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Speaker 1: we have great affiliate footage. Real news with Max Alvarez,

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01:30:20,080 --> 01:30:23,160
Speaker 1: Matt Stoler's explainers on monopolies and more have been doing

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01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:28,040
Speaker 1: gangbusters here, not just in numbers, but having real world impact.

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Speaker 1: You know, he got me a spot to go and

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Speaker 1: to kind of testify to the FTC about the dangers

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01:30:35,200 --> 01:30:38,080
Speaker 1: of big tech and how exactly they can be working

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01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 1: in conjunction with corporate media to stifle you know, independent news.

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Speaker 1: That just shows you, I mean, like I literally was

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Speaker 1: testimonying before these, like you know, before the FTC chairwoman

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01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:50,759
Speaker 1: Lena Khan. So this just shows you that you're helping

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01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:54,200
Speaker 1: build something very special and very new. And as we

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01:30:54,400 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 1: enter year two, look, i mean it's vanity to look

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01:30:57,080 --> 01:30:58,920
Speaker 1: at the charts and all that, but we want to

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01:30:58,960 --> 01:31:02,040
Speaker 1: channel it into the correct angle, which is it's a

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01:31:02,080 --> 01:31:05,559
Speaker 1: tumultuous time. It's a sad time, and it's a dangerous time,

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01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:07,880
Speaker 1: but there is not a reason to give up on

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01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 1: the fact that every day, the harder we work and

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01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:13,640
Speaker 1: the more people that we expand and more that we

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01:31:13,760 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 1: actually can change with the status quote, you know, change

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01:31:16,800 --> 01:31:19,240
Speaker 1: feels like it's not happening, and then it happens all

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Speaker 1: at once. So to that we have a year two plan.

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01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,240
Speaker 1: I showed this already to the premium people's put us

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Speaker 1: up there on the screen, which oh, sorry, this is

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01:31:27,360 --> 01:31:29,519
Speaker 1: the lifetime members one actually yeah, shout out to all

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01:31:29,560 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 1: of them, so we finally got the yeah special thank

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01:31:32,200 --> 01:31:35,040
Speaker 1: you to all of them. They were really the foundation

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01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:37,360
Speaker 1: and to those of you who continue to sign up,

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01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:39,120
Speaker 1: like I just want you to know how much we

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01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:41,880
Speaker 1: appreciate it, how much it helps fund our mission and

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01:31:41,920 --> 01:31:43,720
Speaker 1: to help build our mission. And of course we have

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01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:45,920
Speaker 1: it here on the set, all of the plaques of

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01:31:45,960 --> 01:31:47,760
Speaker 1: all of your names, which you're a permanent part of.

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01:31:48,040 --> 01:31:50,719
Speaker 1: And at the end of every show, including the credit section,

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01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:52,840
Speaker 1: let's s the next one up there, just so I

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01:31:52,880 --> 01:31:55,439
Speaker 1: can show people this is some of the major goals

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01:31:55,439 --> 01:31:58,160
Speaker 1: that we have already identified for our premium members. Some

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01:31:58,200 --> 01:31:59,680
Speaker 1: of the things that we want to do we want

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01:31:59,680 --> 01:32:01,719
Speaker 1: to add number one. We want more on the ground

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01:32:01,760 --> 01:32:05,759
Speaker 1: reporting resources. But to be frank, it is extraordinarily expensive,

1738
01:32:05,760 --> 01:32:08,559
Speaker 1: and it's not like the economic downturn hasn't hurt us

1739
01:32:08,600 --> 01:32:11,040
Speaker 1: as well. We want to hire a new staff member

1740
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:14,599
Speaker 1: to help expand our breaking points footprint. James producer. James's

1741
01:32:14,600 --> 01:32:17,559
Speaker 1: been doing a fantastic job. But the guy's getting stretched there. Yeah,

1742
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 1: we just keep throwing more and more stuff at him.

1743
01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,559
Speaker 1: He doesn't complain, he doesn't. He could use a hand.

1744
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:24,679
Speaker 1: He could use a hand. Live road show across America.

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01:32:24,760 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 1: We have some announcements coming very very soon. We already

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01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:29,519
Speaker 1: booked the first venue. Tickets are going to be going

1747
01:32:29,840 --> 01:32:32,360
Speaker 1: on sale. All the tickets, of course, are going first

1748
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:34,800
Speaker 1: to the premium subscribers, and whatever's left we'll go to

1749
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 1: the general public. So if you are one of those

1750
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:39,680
Speaker 1: people who wants early access, that's the reason in order

1751
01:32:39,680 --> 01:32:42,120
Speaker 1: to sign up. We want to expand content partnerships. We're

1752
01:32:42,120 --> 01:32:44,160
Speaker 1: constantly on the look how many more people can we

1753
01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 1: add on top of the on the ground reporting resources,

1754
01:32:47,080 --> 01:32:49,639
Speaker 1: just because we recognize both how much you guys love

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01:32:49,680 --> 01:32:52,719
Speaker 1: it and how much it resonates and is actually creating

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01:32:52,800 --> 01:32:55,720
Speaker 1: real on the ground impact. And then finally, we want

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01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 1: to continue to upgrade the studio. We need to fix

1758
01:32:58,120 --> 01:33:00,280
Speaker 1: some of the lights in here, which you know we

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01:33:00,360 --> 01:33:04,160
Speaker 1: have been told is extraordinarily difficult, expensive, etcetera. But listen,

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Speaker 1: that's why we rely on all of you. We understand

1761
01:33:07,120 --> 01:33:10,559
Speaker 1: how important production value is to all of you to

1762
01:33:10,600 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 1: be able to share the show with your friends and

1763
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,400
Speaker 1: with your family. Just some talking Yahoo's on YouTube or

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01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:20,559
Speaker 1: whatever in their mother's basement. We never really considered until

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01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:23,679
Speaker 1: we started meeting people in the wild and they were like, oh, well,

1766
01:33:23,760 --> 01:33:26,120
Speaker 1: we love the I mean you heard it over and over. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's one of the nimes I never I never thought

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01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:30,120
Speaker 1: about it until I actually met some of the fans

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01:33:30,120 --> 01:33:32,160
Speaker 1: of our show in person. Yeah. Well, I mean there

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01:33:32,240 --> 01:33:34,920
Speaker 1: is just this very like, you know, if you're used

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01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 1: to consuming mainstream news content and you're not used to

1772
01:33:38,920 --> 01:33:42,080
Speaker 1: watching YouTube shows and you see something that has you know,

1773
01:33:42,120 --> 01:33:45,320
Speaker 1: a more minimalist background or more casual vibe to it,

1774
01:33:45,439 --> 01:33:47,960
Speaker 1: then there I think there is a natural instinct to

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01:33:47,960 --> 01:33:51,080
Speaker 1: be like, ah, that's not serious, that's not real. And

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Speaker 1: so I mean this is not to smirch that approach either,

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01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,599
Speaker 1: It's just that our core offering has always been in

1778
01:33:56,720 --> 01:33:59,880
Speaker 1: part that we have a sort of you know, different production,

1779
01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:02,960
Speaker 1: high level production value, so that you can share it

1780
01:34:03,000 --> 01:34:05,040
Speaker 1: with your friends and family members who may not have

1781
01:34:05,120 --> 01:34:07,360
Speaker 1: exactly the same politics, and that they will sort of

1782
01:34:07,560 --> 01:34:11,160
Speaker 1: instinctively at least take it seriously from the jump. And

1783
01:34:11,200 --> 01:34:13,360
Speaker 1: we've been told by you guys that that's something that's

1784
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:15,160
Speaker 1: important to you, so we want to continue to build

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01:34:15,160 --> 01:34:18,360
Speaker 1: on that. We've also kind of, like, you know, we

1786
01:34:18,439 --> 01:34:21,680
Speaker 1: came into this with this mindset of the goal is

1787
01:34:21,720 --> 01:34:24,559
Speaker 1: to say screw you to the mainstream media, which we

1788
01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:29,519
Speaker 1: still very much feel deep in our core. However, we've

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01:34:29,800 --> 01:34:35,320
Speaker 1: also i say broadened our focus to actually provide a

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01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,360
Speaker 1: true alternative to the mainstream, which is why we want

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01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 1: to focus more on and why we've already added you know,

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01:34:39,960 --> 01:34:42,800
Speaker 1: more ability to break news through our partners at the

1793
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:46,560
Speaker 1: Lever through also our new partners Ryan Grimm, Ken Clippenstein

1794
01:34:46,640 --> 01:34:49,839
Speaker 1: at the Intercept to do great reporting, particular foreign policy,

1795
01:34:49,880 --> 01:34:52,280
Speaker 1: and Ken is always getting incredible scoops because he actually

1796
01:34:52,320 --> 01:34:54,320
Speaker 1: talks like rag and file workers or rink and file

1797
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 1: members of the of DHS, Border Patrol, State Department, you

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01:34:58,520 --> 01:35:02,439
Speaker 1: name it. So the on the ground reporting with status kup.

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Speaker 1: So that does take resources, and that is an area

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Speaker 1: that you know, we want to continue to build so

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01:35:08,280 --> 01:35:11,080
Speaker 1: that we can be as holistic and offering as we

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01:35:11,479 --> 01:35:14,599
Speaker 1: can be to truly be a real one stop sort

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01:35:14,600 --> 01:35:18,120
Speaker 1: of alternative shop for you. Yeah. Absolutely so. Look, guys,

1804
01:35:18,120 --> 01:35:20,439
Speaker 1: if you can help us out join the journey, we've

1805
01:35:20,479 --> 01:35:23,000
Speaker 1: got the premium link there. You're obviously all of the

1806
01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,720
Speaker 1: benefits we have, you know, the extra shows we have,

1807
01:35:25,960 --> 01:35:29,360
Speaker 1: the reaction to each other's monologues, all of that, the AMAS,

1808
01:35:29,479 --> 01:35:32,320
Speaker 1: all of that is important, but really you're investing in

1809
01:35:32,360 --> 01:35:34,760
Speaker 1: our ability to continue to grow. And look, we're not

1810
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 1: going to stop, so honestly, in a way, we're only

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01:35:37,920 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 1: just getting started. Thank you to everybody who's on the

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Speaker 1: ride with us. Thank you to all those premium people,

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01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:45,040
Speaker 1: those people who signed up on day one. We will

1814
01:35:45,080 --> 01:35:48,120
Speaker 1: never forget you. Yeah, you guys changed our lives, you

1815
01:35:48,240 --> 01:35:50,599
Speaker 1: change the show, you made it so that we could

1816
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:53,360
Speaker 1: actually do something. And to all the people since then

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01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:56,080
Speaker 1: who signed up, you're only investing in something even bigger

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01:35:56,280 --> 01:35:58,400
Speaker 1: and better. So thank you so much to all of you.

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Speaker 1: I mentioned this in the pre video, but I always

1820
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:03,120
Speaker 1: think about I went to a concert once and a

1821
01:36:03,160 --> 01:36:05,240
Speaker 1: guys said, thank you so much for sharing your hard

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01:36:05,280 --> 01:36:07,760
Speaker 1: earned money with us to come see us. And I

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01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:10,920
Speaker 1: think about that anytime. You know, I know how hard

1824
01:36:10,920 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 1: you guys work, and I know how hard it is

1825
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 1: out there inflation and all that. I just can't tell

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01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:17,920
Speaker 1: you how much it means to us that you would

1827
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:20,559
Speaker 1: be willing to entrust us with your hard earned dollars,

1828
01:36:20,880 --> 01:36:23,519
Speaker 1: because we know how much that means, especially in this time.

1829
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Speaker 1: And look, it was a life changing experience for us.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully it's been a life changing experience for you, and

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01:36:28,000 --> 01:36:29,679
Speaker 1: we're going to continue to try and make it that way.

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Speaker 1: So thank you all so much, and we'll see you

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Speaker 1: all tomorrow. Love you, guys, see you back here tomorrow.