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Speaker 1: Kesha and the Creepies is a production of I Heart Radio.

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Speaker 1: How do we know that COVID nineteen isn't an alien?

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Speaker 1: You could be onto something. We should alert somebody. They're

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Speaker 1: cute little guys like little beach balls with little fucker's.

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Speaker 1: Welcome everybody to the very first edition of Kesha and

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Speaker 1: the Creepies. We are welcome today by iconic friend, magical, legend,

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Speaker 1: very creepy Alice Cooper himself. I'm not as creepy as

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Speaker 1: COVID nineteen, but I'm creepy. Yeah that's good. That's a

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Speaker 1: good thing. But I'm happy that you are joining us today.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for being on the very first of my

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Speaker 1: podcast ever. I got to be the first guy on

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Speaker 1: your show. You did. You were the first amazing, epic

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Speaker 1: rock star, legend, amazing human being on my show, So

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Speaker 1: thank you for that. You know we have the same

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Speaker 1: kind of idea that horror and rock and comedy all

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Speaker 1: belong in bed together. I agree. I'm with you. I

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Speaker 1: love a good like because I have a song called

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Speaker 1: cannibal I know you have lots of songs about like

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Speaker 1: dead babies, and can you have a song about cannibalism

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Speaker 1: and all that? Stuff. So I just think like horror

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Speaker 1: having fun, so like the comedy and then just the

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Speaker 1: drama of it all. Yes, and you know the lighter

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Speaker 1: side of cannibalism. Yeah, it's it's not a heavy song.

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Speaker 1: It's a really very playful song, but it is about cannibalism,

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Speaker 1: you get it. Anyways, I wanted to like start off

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Speaker 1: this very creepy conversation by asking you do you believe

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Speaker 1: in the supernatural? The pair normal? I you know, I

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Speaker 1: think it exists, but I think it exists on some

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Speaker 1: different levels that that everybody tries to put it into

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Speaker 1: the little little pockets that we can all understand. I

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Speaker 1: don't think we'll ever understand it, you know, because I

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Speaker 1: think it goes into different dimensions and things like that.

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Speaker 1: I don't necessarily believe in ghosts as much as I

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Speaker 1: believe that demons like to pretend they're ghosts. When you

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Speaker 1: watch ghost Hunters or any of these shows and they're

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Speaker 1: down in a cellar somewhere and it's a little girl

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Speaker 1: I think that's a demon doing a really good impersonation

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Speaker 1: of a little girl. Well, it's just one of those

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Speaker 1: things where I think that what demons do best is imitate.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I I talked to some of the

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Speaker 1: you're talking to something innocent, and I don't think you

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Speaker 1: are talking to something innocent, you know. Uh. And they said, well,

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Speaker 1: why would they do that? And I said, to draw

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Speaker 1: And I said that's the only reason they would they

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Speaker 1: down into a basement trying to find somebody that's dead

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Speaker 1: have a fascination with death. I think is safe to say, right, Well,

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Speaker 1: what that is. It's a very strong creature whatever it is. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: might have been Elvis. He was just a regular the guy,

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Speaker 1: I've been to Graceland. Places pretty creepy. I think if

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Speaker 1: his image, his everything about him. When he walked into

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Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely, Well, yeah you get how much how much

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Speaker 1: every time somebody it's like I'll be like I have

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Speaker 1: I can imagine, especially like now that there's the Internet

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Speaker 1: to be exactly the opposite of him, like who you

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Speaker 1: It's great therapy, great therapy. But you know that you're here.

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Speaker 1: I mean we were, like, you know, we terrified everybody, right,

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Speaker 1: And the name is Alice Cooper, sweet little old lady

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Speaker 1: It's like when I think it's very different because we've

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Speaker 1: been snarkling together. But before I met you, it was

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Speaker 1: being on the show. Thank you for being a creep,

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Speaker 1: true and true, and I love you very much and

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Speaker 1: hopefully i'll see you very soon. Kesha, I'll see you again.

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Speaker 1: And you look great, by the way, really terrific. You

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